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Fly more and safer

In the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in 2013, the number of flight accidents decreased by almost three times, Interfax reports, which was announced on Tuesday by First Deputy Defense Minister General of the Army Arkady Bakhin. “In 2013, the flight security service of the Armed Forces, independent of the Main Command of the Air Force and Navy, was revived. Introduced staff members who have passed the specialization. As a result, we have reduced flight accidents by a factor of three in the 2013 year, ”said Arkady Bakhin after a conference call at the Ministry of Defense. He also said that in 2014, a unified flight safety center will be created in the Armed Forces, which is currently in the process of being formed. According to him, this structure will have to monitor in real time the medical condition of the crew, the technical condition of the aircraft, as well as evaluate the flight technical command personnel for the performance of combat missions.


Such innovations are fundamentally important in conditions when the supply of new aviation technicians. In 2014, the Russian army will receive about three hundred new aircraft, as Army General Arkady Bakhin also told reporters. In 2013, the military received over 150 aircraft. And in the beginning of the year, deliveries will almost double. In addition, last year the intensity of combat training of flight personnel increased significantly. According to Bakhin, the raid of military pilots, including young pilots, reaches from 100 to 140 hours per year. “Increasing the intensity of combat training of flight personnel requires compliance with certain safety and preventive measures, aimed primarily at forestalling incidents,” the general noted. The revived flight safety service of the Armed Forces, the unified flight safety center that is being formed, are called upon to create conditions in which the prerequisites for flight accidents will be revealed until the moment when combat vehicles begin to fly into the air.
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  1. domokl
    domokl 7 February 2014 11: 04
    +18
    The raid should be in 300 hours ... And it will be. The pilot should fly, and not run like a chick in an airfield in circles ...
    1. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 7 February 2014 11: 08
      +4
      That's right, security is needed ...
      1. kris
        kris 7 February 2014 11: 44
        +2
        ShturmKGB
        In 2014, the Russian army will receive about three hundred new aircraft,

        Someone can in more detail!
        or did the infection "play with numbers" hit the MO? why not separate airplanes and helicopters?
        in other sources of aircraft there were no more than 50 pieces.
        1. Hort
          Hort 7 February 2014 13: 31
          +2
          well, by aircraft, apparently, we mean both airplanes and helicopters
        2. EvilLion
          EvilLion 7 February 2014 14: 24
          0
          And so it is necessary to paint 2 a dozen positions? For aircraft it’s already roughly known, for 12-14 machines of key types can be more.
        3. silver_roman
          silver_roman 7 February 2014 14: 28
          0
          Well, given the fact that in 2013 the Air Force transferred a really good amount of equipment, and also the fact that cooperation is growing and the number is increasing every year, I think in the 14th we get 300 aircraft.

          here is a summary of 13:

          http://warfiles.ru/show-47678-kontrakty-na-boevye-samolety-i-vertolety-dlya-vvs-
          rossii.html
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 7 February 2014 18: 51
            +5
            "In the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in 2013, the number of flight accidents decreased by almost three times,"
            Compared to what?
            I think it would be useful to clarify, but how much did the number of flying aircraft in the Russian army increase? This refers to the actually put in the troops, and not in the plans. How much increased the number of flights!
            Why not immediately give information to draw conclusions about the state of the Air Force? What is the habit of giving information fragmentarily?
            And then the news is akin to the statement "there are 300 fewer cancer patients in the hospital!"
            It seems possible to be happy, or is it required of us to be happy and not to think?
    2. VAF
      VAF 7 February 2014 14: 49
      +4
      Quote: domokl
      Plaque should be 300 hours.


      Sasha agrees, +! But it is more correct to interpret such a criterion, not plaque, but the level of training.

      And SAFETY all my life "stood on 3 pillars": wink

      1. Strict fulfillment of the requirements of the documents regulating flight operations (THEY, AS NOT PARADOXY IT SOUNDS, BUT ... "WRITTEN" BY BLOOD soldier ).

      2. Have the proper level of PREPARATION.

      3. Have combat-ready aircraft.

      Everything .. and here is the rest such as medical examinations, "analysis" of flights by means of SOC, study and analysis of incidents of air accidents and air crashes .. these are all attendant factors! soldier
    3. Nick
      Nick 7 February 2014 21: 23
      0
      Quote: domokl
      Plaque should be in 300 hours ..

      necessary and sufficient, this is the main principle, and he will tell you 100 or 300 hours.
  2. Duke
    Duke 7 February 2014 11: 06
    +4
    Well, and in light of the resumption of military acceptance of factory equipment, reliability should still increase.
    1. Joker
      Joker 7 February 2014 21: 51
      +1
      And in the reception of aliens from Mars are sitting, who do not take bribes. Do not make them a pill for all diseases, as long as there is corruption, the quality as it was any, will remain so.
  3. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 7 February 2014 11: 06
    +9
    And thank God, they finally began to return what they lost during the "reformers"
    1. askort154
      askort154 7 February 2014 11: 48
      +5
      polkovnik manuch ... And thank God, they finally began to return what they lost during the "reformers"

      When a state (power) turns to face problems in a country, rather than backwards,
      successes are obvious, and do not take long to wait. What we have is not stored, having lost
      cry!
    2. Suhov
      Suhov 7 February 2014 13: 33
      +2
      Quote: polkovnik manuch
      And thank God, they finally began to return what they lost during the "reformers"


      And they also began to treat the army from "democracy", with which the "reformers" infected it.

      Democracy in the army guarantees publicity (a mess - translated into Russian),
      but destroys and security!
    3. demel2
      demel2 7 February 2014 17: 09
      0
      It’s a pity that not all reformers have been lost yet.
  4. svp67
    svp67 7 February 2014 11: 09
    +2
    In the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in 2013, the number of flight accidents decreased by almost three times
    This is PERFECT, if only NOT TO DAMAGE the combat training and preparedness of our pilots ... therefore
    in 2014, a unified flight safety center will be created in the Armed Forces
    only happy and FOR, if he can, on a modern basis, be able to help raise the level of training of our pilots, further reducing the level of losses, both in peacetime and in wartime ...
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 7 February 2014 11: 21
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      This is PERFECT, if only NOT TO DAMAGE the combat training and preparedness of our pilots ... therefore

      Well and so

      "In addition, last year the intensity of the combat training of flight personnel increased significantly."
  5. Zubr
    Zubr 7 February 2014 11: 11
    +3
    Quote: domokl
    The raid should be in 300 hours ... And it will be. The pilot should fly, and not run like a chick in an airfield in circles ...


    They started to come to their senses, breaking is much easier than building. Let the money be allocated more for kerosene, and the families of flyers, so that they are reliably socially protected and everything will be tip-top.
  6. Salamander
    Salamander 7 February 2014 11: 12
    +5
    Hope this is the topic:
  7. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 7 February 2014 11: 18
    +4
    Military envoys are beginning to return to the enterprises. A big plus. The raid is going uphill, albeit a little, but the results are obvious. The "damned" 90s have passed.
  8. sinukvl
    sinukvl 7 February 2014 11: 21
    +9
    Mastery comes with the experience of real flights, no other way. Here are the first results of increasing the number of flights. Keep it up!
  9. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 7 February 2014 11: 58
    +2
    And do not forget it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCgMNEzmbIk
  10. VADEL
    VADEL 7 February 2014 12: 03
    +3
    My father flew in civil aviation for 35 years. After retiring, the total flight time was about 22 thousand hours (in terms of an annual work experience of 99 years). Who knows about the average flight hours of the "pensioner" of the Air Force in the USSR and now in Russia?
    1. VAF
      VAF 7 February 2014 14: 10
      +6
      Quote: VADEL
      Who knows about the average flight hours of the "pensioner" of the Air Force in the USSR and now in Russia?


      I am a military pensioner ... I have been in the "state service" for 29 years and 6 years in "commerce".
      I have a "military" flight time of almost 6 hours (and mostly in small aircraft).
      it counts a lot.
      but first, ask your father. and how much he planting with such a raid.
      And secondly, but flying on the MVL and flying on the KBP .. these are incomparable concepts by any criteria! soldier
      1. VADEL
        VADEL 7 February 2014 14: 37
        +4
        The Father, the kingdom of heaven, is no more. But flying on the AN-2, LI-2, IL-18, TU-154, how many landings he would not answer himself (considering the intermediate ones). That’s why I asked Sergey how much air raid is for air force pilots. Thanks for the answer.
        1. VAF
          VAF 7 February 2014 14: 55
          +4
          Quote: VADEL
          how many landings he wouldn’t answer himself (counting intermediate)


          Rest in peace! soldier And how did it not answer? There is such an IMPORTANT document ... FLIGHT BOOK ... where EVERYTHING is recorded ... and all flights and all admissions ... therefore in the SECTION "Total flight time" -graph ... Total for all types and further: hours.of flights (takeoffs) During the day , At night, in SMU (in the clouds, behind the clouds), the number of landings (for navigators of approaches), with a meteorological minimum.
          So ... I would answer easily and naturally. drinks
          1. VADEL
            VADEL 7 February 2014 15: 15
            +2
            Answered, Sergey. Thank. There is a book. There is a memory. I remember the stories. The commander of the ship. soldier
    2. jjj
      jjj 7 February 2014 15: 40
      +3
      Let's take a look. The maximum daily raid in the USSR Civil Aviation is 8 hours. True, in this case, the next day should be a day off, so they usually wrote 7 hour. 59 min But for convenience we round. We divide 22 thousands into 8, we receive 2 750 days of the maximum raid. Divide this number by 365 and get about 7,7 years. Let's take a different look. Your father flew 35 thousands in 22 years, i.e. an average of 630 hours, or nearly two hours every single day. Understanding that there were holidays, weekends and daily raid rarely when it can be maximum, we can understand that your father’s raid is excellent. And his way by type of machine, by the way, is characteristic of the Arkhangelsk administration of GA
      1. VADEL
        VADEL 7 February 2014 16: 15
        +1
        Quote: jjj
        Arkhangelsk Department of Civil Aviation

        Siberia is the mother. Almost neighbors in the weather. smile
        1. jjj
          jjj 7 February 2014 16: 28
          +2
          Is Krasnoyarsk really?
          1. VADEL
            VADEL 7 February 2014 17: 55
            +1
            He is. Native.
  11. shitovmg
    shitovmg 7 February 2014 12: 14
    +1
    If you compare with cars: traffic has become intense, it is necessary to create and strengthen the traffic police! Closely becomes in the sky and it’s good !!!
  12. coserg 2012
    coserg 2012 7 February 2014 12: 41
    +1
    I don’t know, it seems to me in any kind of troops that the more training there is, the more clearly and accurately the tasks will be completed. Here is the other side of the coin, unsuitable personnel are revealed. Or whether people themselves or because of which equipment is destroyed. This inevitably occurs during normal operation, not everything depends on money. Good luck to our Air Force!
  13. konvalval
    konvalval 7 February 2014 12: 44
    +1
    Air crash reduction is the reduction in casualties. And it pleases.
  14. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 7 February 2014 13: 00
    +4
    Quote: VADEL
    My father flew in civil aviation for 35 years. After retiring, the total flight time was about 22 thousand hours (in terms of an annual work experience of 99 years). Who knows about the average flight hours of the "pensioner" of the Air Force in the USSR and now in Russia?

    Two years. The average flight time in the USSR was 120 hours a year. Now it’s less. Transport workers worked out their watches always. So, on average, it turns out, they fly more than they live. Such work. I have a brother-in-law on Il86 -Kh.Kraseyr. The total raid is about 34 thousand. The guy is 48 years old. I’ve flown into retirement for a long time, but I don’t want to leave. He likes this thing. Fan! In a good way!
    1. ansons
      ansons 7 February 2014 15: 02
      +3
      Happy man doing what he loves. About a raid; I saw statistics on the raid for 2012, an average of 120 hours (approximately). In some parts, it also exceeded 200 hours, while someone had a little less than 100 (as I understand it in the textbooks). For 2013, probably more.
    2. VADEL
      VADEL 7 February 2014 15: 23
      +3
      KrasEir year as 2 or 3 no. IL-86, in my opinion, is also gone. But the fact that flyers are fans of their craft, I agree. Health them.
  15. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 7 February 2014 13: 11
    +4
    The USSR knew that the cost of training pilots was paid off by a sharp decrease in flight accidents. They knew how to save smartly.
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 7 February 2014 14: 27
      +1
      A very controversial statement, the best way to avoid accidents is not to fly at all. The probability of losing a car due to technical reasons can be considered proportional to the raid.
    2. VADEL
      VADEL 7 February 2014 15: 58
      +1
      I completely agree. I’ve been kidding about my father — you’ve been flying for decades, and there are more notebooks with notes than the student’s. There was preparation and professionalism in the UNION.
  16. samoletil18
    samoletil18 7 February 2014 13: 54
    +2
    create conditions in which the prerequisites for flight accidents will be revealed until those moments as combat vehicles begin to fly into the air.
    As a doctor, I’ll say: prevention is a guarantee not only of preserving health, but also of life.
  17. starhina01
    starhina01 7 February 2014 13: 56
    +1
    the number of flight accidents is reduced and the fleet is increasing !!! cheers comrades !!! yes
  18. EvilLion
    EvilLion 7 February 2014 14: 54
    +2
    If we study the real statistics of flight accidents, it is clear that before they fought only like that, the same Su-27 has lost more than a dozen all the time. At the same time, the situation behind colleagues behind the Iron Curtain is no better:

    http://www.airwar.ru/history/locwar/lamerica/poteri/poteri_usa.html

    According to F-15, approximately the same number of losses (over 100) gives pedivicia, while noting that the F-15 is one of the most reliable types in the US Air Force with an emergency 1 PL for 50000 hours.

    Against this background, the accident rate of the F-22 does not look significant, and the absence of losses from the F-35 so far should be surprising. Already on trials to break a few boards, it was always in the order of things. The Indian Air Force, which is a parable in the languages, also did not suffer big losses in Su-30.

    IMHO, it is not only a decrease in the number of parks, but also an increase in the reliability of the aircraft of the latest models as a whole.
  19. typhoon7
    typhoon7 7 February 2014 16: 38
    +1
    The news is good. I would like to hope that difficult times for the Russian Air Force, and for the Army and Navy, are in the past. To the author +.
  20. Kolyan 2
    Kolyan 2 7 February 2014 17: 00
    +1
    Quote: Sukhov
    Quote: polkovnik manuch
    And thank God, they finally began to return what they lost during the "reformers"


    And they also began to treat the army from "democracy", with which the "reformers" infected it.

    Democracy in the army guarantees publicity (a mess - translated into Russian),
    but destroys and security!

    Correctly generally, any paramilitary unit and democracy are not compatible by definition, and reasoning and demagogy do not fit the charter. hi
  21. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 7 February 2014 18: 15
    +1
    Good news and good trend.
    100-140h per year, of course, is not enough. However, they already wrote about it here.
  22. dr.star75
    dr.star75 7 February 2014 18: 44
    0
    I did not quite understand. The average annual air raid increased?
  23. jekasimf
    jekasimf 8 February 2014 10: 59
    0
    Already tired of such news. Every day the same thing. Why? Or write nothing more? Article-10 words, comments 2 pages will be soon.
    Top 3 favorite themes of the site: "Does Russia need an aircraft carrier", "PAK YES look", and "how cool things have become in the Air Force"