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With a revolver, but without a kind word

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American police have, we can say, unlimited rights. These rights are so broad that they have almost become responsibilities. The cops on the streets of New York or Washington should poke their nose in any business, shoot passers-by who were just on the way, kill “on suspicion,” including people who are unarmed. The judiciary usually covers the executive who has blundered power: the hand washes the hand. American cops feel complete impunity. Of course, these warriors of the streets quickly decompose morally.




At the beginning of 2014, the media appeared confirmed information about the police scammers who deftly turned over the “business” with social benefits meant for those who suffered from the 9 / 11 attacks. In the New York case, 106 enterprising Misters are now undergoing, of whom 80 has been arrested. Of these eighty, 72 are ex-cops. They are all charged with fraud. The estimated total damage from the activities of these policemen, firefighters and rescuers who have joined them is estimated at 400 million dollars!

All these brave guys are simulators, but not the ones described by Hasek in Schweik. The cops quite successfully pretended to be psychos that they supposedly became after participating in rescue operations at the scene of the tragedy. Each of them, with the assistance of four experienced and qualified intermediaries who trained the police in the necessary simulation, received real certificates of full labor incapacity - with real seals. And since these people have suffered so much, the budget transferred thousands of dollars to them on 30-50 - annually.

For many years, the “psychos” led a turbulent life: they boasted through social networks about how they happily live in retirement, travel, fish and even work in decent positions (although it would be better for some neurological disorders to live in a felt room). One of the loonies was a pilot, and the other taught people martial arts.

I remember a shot from the movie "Deadly weapon":" He pretends to be. He wants to get a pension. ” Mel Gibson's character did not pretend, but the real cops pretended.

And these types in the United States are called law enforcement officers!

As for the moral component, the cops really have it at zero. Not because the capitalist system corrupts a person, but because cops are accustomed to shoot first and then think. And the second paragraph is not required. Thus, the behavior of a policeman is simplified to the ultimate psychological model: he suspected - fired. As a result, the police in America themselves have become a source of threat and danger. Especially when you consider that we are talking about the police, who on the streets are practically unlimited.

14 September 2013 in New York, on Times Square, the “guards of order” saw a strange man, then running out to the roadway, then running away from her. Just in case they started shooting at him. Not hit But seriously injured two women. Having cleared the way for them with bullets, the policemen understood that the Mr. pursued by them was unarmed. Therefore, they did not kill him, but struck him with a stun gun. Subsequently, the doctor explained to them that this person was just mentally unbalanced.

In the same month, valiant policemen in Charlotte, North Carolina, shot an unarmed man who ... asked for help.

Some local resident called the law enforcement officers by phone: an unknown person seemed to be bursting into her house. This "unknown", seeing a police car, immediately rushed from the door, which knocked, to the policemen. Of course, he had no weapons.

Without hesitation, the “guardian of order” pulled out a stun gun. But the machine for some reason did not work. Then the second policeman opened fire with a pistol. What else to do if the shocker does not work? Young Jonathan Fairrell (24 of the year, only began to live) died on the spot.

Not far from the “battlefield,” police found a damaged car that belonged to Mr. Fairrell. It turned out that this man had an accident and knocked on the nearest house to ask for help. Instead of helping her neighbor, the hostess called the police. And since the police in the United States prefer to shoot all suspicious, the bell played a fatal role in the fate of a stranger.

The site fbii.org recently talked about the “roof” that Mayor Michael Bloomberg offered to the New York cops, whose term expired on December 31 of 2013. It was with him that the police received unlimited powers, including permission to use weapons in crowded places, and the use of stop-interrogation-search tactics.

Under Mr Bloomberg, the New York Police Department was involved in several major corruption scandals. For example, the "Ticket-Fixing" case. In the US, motorists who violate traffic rules receive a penalty ticket, and may also lose the right to drive a vehicle for a long time. Dissenters go to court, which almost always supports the prosecution. As a result, you have to pay both a fine and legal fees. But if the policeman who issued the fine ignores the trial, the case is decided in favor of the offender. Having received a bribe, on the appointed day the cops did not appear in court. This is the “Ticket-Fixing” case.

Within its framework, three hundred fraudulent episodes were investigated, involving hundreds of police officers. Financial losses of the city amounted to about 2 million. But the prosecutor's office "became interested" only in the main actors.

“Alas, the punishment of a dozen policemen is nothing compared to the number of those who could be prosecuted by the prosecutor’s office,” a source in law enforcement agencies quoted the New York Daily News.

In August, 2011, according to the same fbii.org, about thirty policemen were under investigation for perjury in a number of criminal cases. These cops invented the circumstances in which the arrests were made and fabricated evidence.

“Some policemen lied about the fact that the suspect got rid of drugs at the time of his arrest. This was done to register the arrest and put a tick in the plan, ”sources in law enforcement agencies said.

Crime columnist Murray Weiss writes:

"Similar stories have one thing in common. At first, the leadership of the New York police is trying to diminish their significance, and if the matter has received a loud resonance, several bad guys blame it all. This approach, it would seem, is intended to polish the image of the New York Police Department, but it also has insidious flaws. Instead of showing openness to criticism and finding his mission to expose the wrongdoing, he sends the opposite signal: the police in New York are a closed society that protects their own interests. ”


Let's clarify: is the state. The state system does not surrender. And yes, it is a closed society. Between him and the people always looms barricade. Approximately described one of the states of coexistence of the people and the state, Comrade Marx.

Nowadays, American police have become ordinary killers. Ksenia Fokina ("Voice of Russia") cites data that since 2012 in the United States, more than 5 thousands of deaths have been caused by police officers. Among the victims are not only mental unbalanced, but also people who have hoped for the service of 911, and old people who crossed the road in the wrong place.

For example, 50-year-old white New Yorker Carl Anders Peltomaa fell victim to the policeman's aggression. His wife just called 911 and complained about her husband’s allergic reaction.

Kang Wong, 84 of the year, was injured by New York City police: this old man tried to cross the road in the wrong place.

As the journalist notes, most of the police stations in the US 17000 do not disclose information about the use of force by employees, and the federal government is not making efforts to get them.

In this case, the police rights - more than enough. If three men stop on a city street, a police car will immediately drive up to them, and armed cops will ask unpleasant questions about the “meeting”. That is, we add to this, the wrong side of democracy. Obama welcomes riots and rallies in Ukraine or processions in Russia, but he does not want to have them at home.

The willingness of police to kill at first suspicion, and the state - to hush up such killings, will lead to serious consequences, says Irish journalist and columnist for the Euro Weekly News newspaper Michael Walsh. He is confident that the trend towards suppression of civil protests will increase, and the police will play a decisive role in this. Teaching society to the idea that anyone can be shot on suspicion of a policeman is, in fact, a scare tactic, says Comrade Walsh. He develops his thought:

“FEMA camps are well known and are created throughout the country with a specific purpose. Relevant authorities are well armed and must temper civil unrest. Thus, this strategy is very well developed. I think that the United States is now in the position in which the Soviet Union was in 1985: the collapse has matured, and they are preparing for it. All that we can hope for is that America’s collapse will be softer than it was in the Soviet Union. ”


No, comrade Walsh. The collapse of the United States can not be "softer." Unlike the Soviet people, the American people are armed to the teeth - the trunks in the United States are almost as many as there are people. And with illegal weapons, which the gangs have, the number of “firearm” in the hands of citizens is difficult to even imagine. In the confusion of the police, ordinary Americans who are very fond of their Second Amendment will defend their constitutional rights with pistols, shotguns and rifles in their hands. They say Americans are very fond of Russian "Saigi" ... And they do not like it when their weapons are lying in vaults. A spontaneous revolution in the US - it will be something. Yes, Jack London, yes: the time of the Iron Heel is here!

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  1. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 7 February 2014 08: 55
    +14
    The state system does not give up. And yes, this is a closed society. A barricade always looms between him and the people.

    Unfortunately, this can also be written about us ...
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 7 February 2014 09: 13
      +6
      In the highest echelons of power, this is all too often, I do not remember a case when some "effective reformer or manager" was imprisoned for the tricks that they arranged with our people, there is no such thing.
      1. Mart
        7 February 2014 09: 24
        +5
        Kovrovsky
        Same lech
        I support and plus. Moreover, when Marx, theorizing on the types of "cohabitation" of the state and the people, he had in mind the state in general, without specific examples. hi
    2. Old_kapitan
      Old_kapitan 7 February 2014 09: 29
      +14
      Unfortunately, this can be written about us.
      And we have a madhouse "Sun": the lesson in uniform is covered, and the guys who are doing their duty on the Maidan are handed over without choking ...
      1. surovyi kot
        surovyi kot 7 February 2014 10: 03
        +7
        There is someone to learn from who the spiritual mentor Gorbachev lives in Germany. This mentor of the USSR sold for the Nobel Prize (just $ 1000000).
        1. Sadikoff
          Sadikoff 7 February 2014 16: 55
          +3
          Well, he only for the surrender of the GDR received a lemon of greenery and Shevarnadze also a lemon.
      2. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 7 February 2014 14: 33
        0
        Quote: Old_Kapitan
        Unfortunately, this can be written about us.
        And we have a madhouse "Sun": the lesson in uniform is covered, and the guys who are doing their duty on the Maidan are handed over without choking ...


        Madhouse is your slightly different property. About it separately. The birkut was simply made there. Actually, there, even if you put the archangel, it will still be to blame because it is against the State Department ...
    3. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 7 February 2014 14: 29
      -2
      Quote: Kovrovsky
      The state system does not give up. And yes, this is a closed society. A barricade always looms between him and the people.

      Unfortunately, this can also be written about us ...


      First of all about us. We have all 100% of the cops under the article go. Everyone, without exception, has at least once committed an official crime, and some just serve in the police to scoff at people with impunity. I doubt that ever they will openly cover their activities.
      1. K9_SWAT
        K9_SWAT 8 February 2014 20: 16
        +1
        They go under the article because there are no rights. In Moscow, anyway. Everyone can call 02 and you will then unsubscribe for a week. Personally witnessed. One x called ... and complained that the police had beaten. CSS arrived, looked at the cameras and saw that no one had touched it with a finger. Conducted outreach so that henceforth garbage is not toiled.
    4. smile
      smile 7 February 2014 14: 55
      +3
      Kovrovsky
      You are wrong. Ordinary law enforcement officers are only handed over. And non-ordinary ones are also not always covered. Of course, in principle, the flaws in our system are similar - as in the whole world - people are the same. But our policemen have incomparably less rights to use violence. Even our worst scumbags in uniform and in sweet dreams did not dream that the system would cover them the way Americans cover their colleagues. And it’s more difficult to hide the mess - the system is centralized. and they have different submissions - the state police can be called almost a private shop. Different subordination and different legislation in the states greatly contributes to the concealment of everything and everything.
      What to talk about if it is normal for them, when the teacher calls the police to school to appease a naughty 8-10 year old schoolboy, and the police grab hold of a holster (and they always grab it - if you see footage of a police officer talking to any person who turns to them , pay attention to the right hand of the "officer" - he immediately paws on the handle of the piece of iron - instructions) puts handcuffs on the terrible criminal and delivers him to the police station? This is a common practice, I'm not kidding at all.
      I’m wondering how the critics of our cops would react if they, turning to them with some question, would find that the policeman first grabs the gun and takes a position that allows you to instantly open fire? And his comrades simultaneously fan out :))) I would not like it at all ... :)))

      And according to the article. From the conversation with the Americans, the impression was that, compared to today's police arbitrariness, quiet Os was generally happening before. Just like in the movies about bad cops, without any stretch of the imagination. Police corruption and arrogance were unprecedented. The mayor organized a joint operation with the FBI to clear the ranks. Hundreds of detained policemen were fired, dozens were planted .... though the leadership of the police gangs, of course, went unpunished. But the New Yorkers nevertheless began to feel more freely and became less afraid of the guys who never took their hands from weapons ... :)))
      1. blizart
        blizart 9 February 2014 13: 58
        0
        They say, “Let me be judged better by twelve than by six.”
    5. AVV
      AVV 7 February 2014 21: 35
      +1
      Quote: Kovrovsky
      The state system does not give up. And yes, this is a closed society. A barricade always looms between him and the people.

      Unfortunately, this can also be written about us ...

      Chamber number 6 open day !!!
    6. shuhartred
      shuhartred 8 February 2014 02: 38
      +1
      Quote: Kovrovsky
      The state system does not give up. And yes, this is a closed society. A barricade always looms between him and the people.

      Unfortunately, this can also be written about us ...

      This can be written about any state.
  2. Stiletto
    Stiletto 7 February 2014 09: 13
    +5
    I read it with pleasure, I looked - who the author is, and everything became clear immediately: Oleg, clever! Thank you very much! good
    1. Mart
      7 February 2014 09: 24
      +12
      Quote: Stiletto
      I read it with pleasure, I looked - who the author is, and everything became clear immediately: Oleg, clever! Thank you very much!

      Thank you, my readers, for the attention and high marks! drinks
  3. Freemason
    Freemason 7 February 2014 09: 17
    +1
    Quote: Kovrovsky
    The state system does not give up. And yes, this is a closed society. A barricade always looms between him and the people.

    Unfortunately, this can also be written about us ...

    True bitter experience of 90 it clearly shows ... the dream of American directors is being realized slowly ...
  4. AnaBat
    AnaBat 7 February 2014 09: 23
    +7
    Talk about the police cop! DO NOT BELIEVE ...
  5. Sid.74
    Sid.74 7 February 2014 09: 40
    +5
    No, comrade Walsh. The collapse of the United States can not be "softer." Unlike the Soviet people, the American people are armed to the teeth - the trunks in the United States are almost as many as there are people.
    OleghiVery slyly but true!
    1. Mart
      7 February 2014 09: 53
      +7
      Quote: Sid.74
      OleghiVery mischievously but true!

      Yes, Eugene, thank you. They are there, in the American "top", get to the "Iron Heel" ... And no FEMA camps will save you.
      1. me
        me 7 February 2014 10: 37
        -2
        Have you lived in the us to write similar articles about the police? For example, I respect them, they are prettier to me than our messes, which you can be a naughty guy, knock on the head, give money. Yes, the cops are tough, but they respect them for that, it's the police, not the kindergarten teachers.
        1. smile
          smile 7 February 2014 15: 23
          +2
          me
          Yes, you yourself listen to the Americans. Talk to our colleague under the name Nagan - your sympathies will diminish. When the guys you love will cease to handcuff eight-year-old children, including those with a fatal outcome, then rasuse about what our smears are.
          I talked with the American police. Normal guys. But the constant readiness for the preventive aggression, which is hammered into them, is simply amazing. And they really do not surrender their own - any. In terms of corporate solidarity, they can only be compared with our doctors. :))) Therefore, finished people really go to internal investigation services - they are unanimously hated and despised by all cops of all levels. :)))
          At the slightest hint of a threat, police officers must open fire to kill. According to the instructions, they are obliged to drop at least 5 bullets into the suspicious person - three in the chest, one in the head, one in the groin (and suddenly on it is body armor). No warning shots, shots in the limbs are out of the question. THE SUSPECTED will be resolved to the state of mincemeat. Does the number of five thousand corpses per year tell you anything? You like? :))) Is there a war going on? Yes, not a kindergarten .... :)))

          Nevertheless, during Hurricane Katrina, the police removed themselves from order - gangs of thugs killed, raped and robbed people right at the stadium, in which THOUSANDS were hiding from the water. The steep cops NEVER blinked. They took off their uniforms and hid. The order was brought in by army units, including those recalled from Iraq. The Americans themselves told me about this. Like this. Having seen enough of their democratically inclined people, who, in any critical situation, when the stranglehold of the system of total surveillance and suppression is weakening, strives to turn into a horde of looters, the American comrades have created a network of concentration camps. :)))
          1. me
            me 7 February 2014 20: 45
            -1
            Given the fact that weapons are allowed in the United States, the constant readiness for preventive aggression is understandable. It is enough to follow the orders of the policeman and everything will be tip-top. In case of disobedience, they can kick back hard and be right, but this is better than ours, when every gopota considers it his duty to measure strength with a policeman. There is a shocker in the ass and all things.
            1. smile
              smile 7 February 2014 21: 16
              0
              me
              Hm. I admit, this comment is not without meaning. I agree with many, except that everything will be tip-top .... their selection in the police is much more meticulous, and rightly so. Thugs no less than ours, where ours dismisses, there shoot. In addition, it is quite widely possible to interpret the grounds for the use of weapons enshrined in law .... this is too much.
              And as for the gopota, I’m also for the shocker and all things :))) our police were overly muzzled with restrictions and nit-picking in this regard ... but the shocker is one thing, and the bullet is somewhat different. As you like, but five thousand corpses a year (well, we would have 2,5) half of which were shot by mistake, but in a legitimate way. This is overkill.
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            3. shuhartred
              shuhartred 8 February 2014 02: 47
              0
              Quote: i
              Given that weapons are allowed in the United States,

              Are they allowed to carry weapons freely? For some reason, it always seemed to me that only buying and unlimited use to protect property. And so it turns out, he hung himself with ruzhbikes and walk freely. Our cops will shoot this just in case.
              1. me
                me 8 February 2014 10: 03
                0
                The Bill of Rights permits, but laws vary by state. But for any purchase it is allowed, which means that any scumbag can put a weapon in his bosom even if it is forbidden to be worn in a particular state.
                1. shuhartred
                  shuhartred 8 February 2014 10: 45
                  +1
                  Quote: i
                  any scumbag can stick his weapon in his bosom even if it is not allowed to be worn in a particular state.

                  Well, how does this situation differ from ours? In general, the question is very old and has no ethically ideal solution. Which is better: to punish 10 innocent people in the hope that there will be a guilty one among them, or to justify 9 out of 10 not being sure that it is the guilty one who is punished? And there is also such a saying "wood is cut and chips are flying", which also seems to justify preventive shooting to kill.
        2. matross
          matross 7 February 2014 17: 03
          +1
          Quote: i
          Yes, the cops are tough, but they respect them for that, it's the police, not the kindergarten teachers.

          Police are tough around the world! Except Russia. We were definitely intimidated by the cops until they were fully escorted. Does anyone remember or even encountered the Soviet police, or at least the cops in 90? That's it ...
          1. shuhartred
            shuhartred 8 February 2014 10: 48
            0
            Quote: matRoss
            Police are tough around the world! Except Russia.

            I don’t know, looking at the "road wars" you cannot say that. And the weapon is used without any problems and during the arrest they act extremely harshly if the situation requires it.
        3. matross
          matross 7 February 2014 17: 03
          +1
          Quote: i
          Yes, the cops are tough, but they respect them for that, it's the police, not the kindergarten teachers.

          Police are tough around the world! Except Russia. We were definitely intimidated by the cops until they were fully escorted. Does anyone remember or even encountered the Soviet police, or at least the cops in 90? That's it ...
      2. fennekRUS
        fennekRUS 7 February 2014 10: 48
        0
        it remains to envy .. for good. people have at least a "response" possible
        1. siberalt
          siberalt 7 February 2014 16: 09
          +2
          Here it would be nice to interview amerovskoy cops how they would behave in the place of "berkutovtsy". Yes, show it in the Ukrainian media. And this despite the fact that there are an order of magnitude more journalists than managers in retail chains.
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      3. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 7 February 2014 14: 35
        +1
        Quote: Mart
        Quote: Sid.74
        OleghiVery mischievously but true!

        Yes, Eugene, thank you. They are there, in the American "top", get to the "Iron Heel" ... And no FEMA camps will save you.


        Well, someone will be saved. I think sitting out in the camp peak of American buzy will be the safest way out. In the place of their layman, I would have thought how to get off the treasury to the government camp if it starts.
  6. surovyi kot
    surovyi kot 7 February 2014 09: 56
    -3
    The United States struggled with the USSR for so long that they became like it.
    1. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 7 February 2014 14: 39
      +2
      Quote: surovyi kot
      The United States struggled with the USSR for so long that they became like it.


      From no, here! They didn’t. The USSR has always adhered to a clear line of the social state. The USA, to the peak, has always been a Masonic estate, that is, dark forces there did their own dark deeds. Now we have a horseradish understand which state, and the United States is still doing what has gotten just now not embarrassed. As the state of the Gopniks was built by the Gopniks, it remained the same, and the methods are the same if the USSR had happened there, everything would have become easier for everyone.
  7. Burmistr
    Burmistr 7 February 2014 10: 34
    +1
    Our Militia was renamed the Police. It's just unthinkable. And this is after we survived the war and the "policemen" were disgraceful on our territory. It looks like they want to turn us into the same disenfranchised people who live in the United States. Silently.
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 7 February 2014 11: 07
      +3
      Quote: Burmeister
      It seems that they want to turn us into the same disenfranchised people ...

      Friendly advice - do not beg for sarcasm wink
  8. bear
    bear 7 February 2014 10: 46
    +3
    Yeah, let the Ukrainian opposition and Crimean Tatars revere what they want to plunge into! laughing
  9. Letterksi
    Letterksi 7 February 2014 11: 38
    0
    I’m beginning to understand one thing, if one way or another Russian culture based on justice, Orthodoxy and mercy will be completely destroyed, and Russia is divided. Then in the world there will simply be no barrier to lawlessness, slaveholding, sodomy and the holiday of "democracy". In these conditions, the world will come to complete hell in 20-30 years, when everyone will be only for himself. It will all come down to bandit groups. Unfortunately, Russia is now, under the leadership of bandits in power, goes the same way.

    After the collapse of the USSR, many sincerely believed that ahead of us was only progress and happiness in Western patterns. And few people suspected that the moral crisis was also eroding the West, and was at about the same stage as in the USSR. In fact, the collapse of the USSR only delayed their death by 10 years
    1. smile
      smile 7 February 2014 15: 34
      -1
      Letterksi
      So. A loud statement about the banditry of our government. Please explain. In the actions of which of "Vlast" :))) did you see the corpus delicti "banditry"? Otherwise it will be hollow. :)))
      It looks especially touching that screaming about the bandits in "power" and the tyranny of the bloody Putin gebni, the swamp people are in solidarity with you - all kinds of creative liberals, anal, ksyusch, Novodvorsk, gozmans, fascists and homosexuals .... :))) You have with them kinship of souls? :))) Do they defend the ideals of the USSR? :))) What, you have no time to think and analyze? :))) Congratulations on your ideological allies - you will go far with them :)))
      1. lukke
        lukke 7 February 2014 16: 05
        -1
        So. A loud statement about the banditry of our government. Please explain. In the actions of which of "Vlast" :))) did you see the corpus delicti "banditry"? Otherwise it will be hollow. :)))
        I apologize for interfering, but here's the question: Is the head of the subject of the Federation the head of power? Ramzan Kadyrov openly demonstrated his arsenal to journalists - the home museum of small arms, in particular, I remember that he had a "golden" PM in his hands. How about an article in the Criminal Code on illegal storage, handling, etc.? Has anyone reacted? This is only a small fraction of what was immediately remembered
        1. smile
          smile 7 February 2014 18: 05
          +2
          lukke
          You have nothing to apologize for - this is a public discussion. :)))
          But answer me, do you really think that the colleague of LetterKsi, voicing the swamp agitation, had in mind Ramzan, and not someone else?

          Do you really believe that? Answer honestly. you are welcome. :))) Otherwise, your example looks like a hypocritical attempt to dodge, now you will forgive me.

          Does Ramzan personify all our power, and it is not our power that holds it there only because it keeps the republic out of a sense of self-preservation and preservation of its way of life solely thanks to our support? I also don’t like the beats of this character, but in this case we acted in the best traditions of the 19 century, when the bandits were tamed and, regardless of how much Russian blood they had on them, if they were useful and declared loyalty, they were forgiven for everything, because they themselves counteracted the pacific scumbags trying to blow up the Caucasus. Do you remember Shamil and the fate of his sons - someone took up the old, but someone honestly served Russia. It would be the same if we let go of Dudaev, Basaev, Maskhadov, or the degenerate Barayev. So, you don’t have to put a shadow on the fence, sorry again ... :)))
          1. And Us Rat
            And Us Rat 7 February 2014 18: 19
            +1
            Quote: smile
            Does Ramzan personify all our power, and it is not our power that holds it there only because it keeps the republic out of a sense of self-preservation and preservation of its way of life solely thanks to our support? I also don’t like the beats of this character, but in this case we acted in the best traditions of the 19 century, when the bandits were tamed and, regardless of how much Russian blood they had on them, if they were useful and declared loyalty, they were forgiven for everything, because they themselves counteracted the pacific scumbags trying to blow up the Caucasus. Do you remember Shamil and the fate of his sons - someone took up the old, but someone honestly served Russia. It would be the same if we let go of Dudaev, Basaev, Maskhadov, or the degenerate Barayev. So, you don’t have to put a shadow on the fence, sorry again ... :)))

            Hi hi I like to read your comments, always not in the eyebrow, but in the eye good

            1. smile
              smile 7 February 2014 18: 59
              +1
              And Us Rat
              Hi myself!
              Thank. Everything is fine with accuracy, too ... :))) It remains to be hoped that we, like the Ravens, will not bite each other's eyes ... :)))) And even extra cuts on the eyebrows are also useless ... :))) Although at times our opinions do not coincide. :))) This is normal. But the breed is one. :)))
          2. lukke
            lukke 8 February 2014 00: 06
            -1
            Sorry, I answer late - I watched the opening. Happy holiday to all!
            Does Ramzan personify all our power, and it is not our power that keeps it there only because it keeps the republic out of a sense of self-preservation and preservation of its lifestyle solely thanks to our support?
            Well, if I repeat again - the head of the subject of the federation "hero" of Russia - in your opinion, not our government ....?! Ramzan is a very good indicator and characteristic of our time, the government with all its imperfections, and most importantly and sadly, it shows that the laws are not the same for everyone. In this case, we are guided by some motives, in another by the third, tenth, and the rule of law is somehow more formally. By the way, my personal opinion is that VVP and Ramzan have a lot in common, the latter clearly imitates the teacher, introducing a national flavor ... About Serdyukov, I generally keep quiet - the identity has recently come from power (this power).
            1. smile
              smile 8 February 2014 00: 45
              +2
              lukke
              1. For your "sorry", get my "new minds"! :))) Greetings that you are watching the Opening of the Olympics. Here. And without any jokes.
              2. Claiming that the head of one of the constituent entities of the Federation, Ramzan, personifies power - sorry, all the same hypocrisy ... you are clearly smarter than pretending to be. The statement that Ramzanchik is a student of Putin ... :))) I appreciate your humor :)))) ... But still too much. I won’t even go through your argument - you understand everything anyway ... :))) You give the impression of an intelligent person ... so you should not play with words ... why? :))) Or are you also writing not to me but to the audience, as MatRoss said? :))) So this ... is useless - a too unfounded statement ... :)))) Have I put it mildly enough? :))) And as for Ramzan, I have already spoken out earlier ... probably you have not noticed and that is why you have not refuted ... :)))
              3. Okay. Today is a great sport, and not just a holiday. Congratulations and I will not spoil it. :)))
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      3. Letterksi
        Letterksi 8 February 2014 10: 49
        -2
        So. A loud statement about the banditry of our government.


        Modern power, and what you have listed, are two sides of the same coin, managed from the same cabinet. The cabinet took the side of arbitration - the side of the judge and the process manager. He doesn’t care who wins. The important thing is that the winner, due to the weakening of the struggle with the opposite side of the coin, will never get to him.

        This person is talking about Ukraine, but the same thing is happening in Russia. Therefore, we need a third party, which does not depend on the cabinet, and despises it on a mental level. But this is not about you

  10. vkrav
    vkrav 7 February 2014 11: 43
    +1
    “The police always have before their eyes that the criminals are doing well. Only the dumbest police officer is unable to understand that the position of power is the most advantageous position that a criminal achieves.” C) Frank Herbert
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  12. koksalek
    koksalek 7 February 2014 12: 03
    +1
    The fish rots from the head. This is there, morally decomposed, manifests itself particularly clearly.
  13. rereture
    rereture 7 February 2014 13: 50
    +4
    The cops are doing the right thing.

    Not that ours, be afraid to use weapons.
    In the video, a crowd of people interferes with detaining a police brawler who beats him. A policeman shot him.

    In the USA, the whole crowd was tied.

    1. sergey261180
      sergey261180 7 February 2014 15: 34
      +2
      It was necessary to shoot all the other stupid (bad "citizens"), who were also blathering there. The masses are devoured.
    2. smile
      smile 7 February 2014 15: 40
      +1
      rereture
      Well, yes ... and so five thousand people a year ... :)))) We still have not put out the North Caucasus bonfire, the smoldering war, but we are not even close to such a number of victims. Do you want our police to kill people left and right, in thousands, for example, when the street is crossed incorrectly? :)) Nu-nu ... :)))
      1. rereture
        rereture 7 February 2014 16: 10
        +3
        I would not mind if the police killed right and left participants in the shooting corteges, rapists, people preventing detention, migrants breaking the law, Caucasians who, shouting "alah-babah", shoot nightclubs, instigators near mosques. Fools who sort things out on the roads with weapons.

        You see, there would be less criminal news in the bulletins.
        1. smile
          smile 7 February 2014 18: 20
          -3
          rereture
          That is, you because if the outfit left the neighbors' call for noise, and seeing that the husband was scandalizing with his wife (it is scandalizing, but not killing her), he would shoot the man for sending cops, advising them not to climb in family affairs (and the wife supported him), would our criminal situation improve? :)))
          You just imagine the situation, try on yourself or your neighbors.
          Imagine that you can be shot when crossing the road in the wrong place, if you do not hear a command to lie on the road and put your hands on your head over street noise, and think about it.
          Think carefully - do you need this?
          Think about what you’ll start talking about our police if they do this. You know, it’s very convenient to say how good it is when violators will be shot without ceremony, at the slightest suspicion of disobedience, but for some reason such supporters of tough measures cannot try on the situation.
          Have you ever violated anything? Conflicted with the police when they were wrong? I was in conflict, and put the presumptuous in their place, and even arranged serious trouble for illegal actions, up to the quiet dismissal "of my own free will" - I did not need the noise. (I confess, I used my official position :)))). And then I would be careful. Simply for one reason - the one who is alive is right. They would have just shot me and amicably confirmed that I was behaving aggressively, put my hand in my pocket and it seemed to them that I had a pistol there. All. I am a corpse and legality would have triumphed. :)))
          Think seriously, would you like us to have this? Are you sure that this would not affect you and your loved ones in the most tragic way?
          1. matross
            matross 7 February 2014 18: 56
            +1
            Quote: smile
            if the outfit that left the neighbors ringing for noise, and seeing that the husband was scandalizing with his wife (it is scandal, not killing her) would shoot the man for sending cops, advising them not to get into family affairs (and his wife supported), then we would have improved the criminal situation?

            Would improve. But to the point of absurdity is not necessary. A man should have been shunned by a stun gun, to the department, in the morning to the court and on 10-15 days. Wife a medical portion of pepper gas and a fine with deduction from the salary. Everything is strictly within the law. But in reality, it’s like this now: the outfit was sent to ..., I’ll say the neighbors refused to write - these are troubles, they don’t need problems, the husband and wife made a sharp reconciliation and called on 02 - the cops are rude and threatening. Further, an official check, apologies to the former and the punishment of the dress. Believe me, I know what I'm writing about.
            Quote: smile
            Have you ever broken anything? Conflicted with the police when she was wrong? I was in conflict

            So you decide whether you yourself violated or the police are wrong! Or he violated, but
            Quote: smile
            used official position

            and got rid of it. We know - swam! "Right now, tell your beginner - tomorrow you won't work here!"stop
            1. smile
              smile 7 February 2014 19: 50
              -1
              matross
              1. On the first half of your comment. Why are you telling me this? You think I'm not familiar with the situation? I assure you, you were mistaken, so that you spend an educational program among the children - I myself can conduct it for you. :)))
              That is why I gave such an example. There, with whom we are compared - this is a real prospect of getting a bullet. That is why I do not understand the enthusiasm for rigidity. They didn’t catch the meaning of the simplest text? :)))

              2. In the second part of your comment. I don’t know what you were swimming in, but obviously it flooded your ears. :))) Therefore, you can put your hints in your ... bag ... you’re marsupial, right?
              I saw that the police outfit behaved inappropriately, using unjustified violence and special means against citizens. Naturally, I could not stand it and got into the situation. The violators in uniform only found out what my official position was when they were brought with me to the department by the police officers I called. The head of the department gave me an explanation of their explanations for me, I rarely read such stupid lies. Since measures were taken to provide evidence of illegal actions of the comrades, it did not fail. In theory, the comrades had to be summed up under the article. But they were simply asked to quit. I did not insist. They asked.
              But you would have clearly passed by - but as if you were outraged, right? :)))
              So, here it is not necessary to build up of yourself as an all-seeing, in many places "who have swam" ... it is not necessary. By the way, do you know WHAT floats? You, as a SWIMMER, should know this. :)))
              Let it also be known to you, I have never shaken the rights, being guilty. That is why I have never had a quarrel with normal law enforcement officials. It couldn’t be otherwise - my mother ended her career as an important major.
              Please don't jump to any more hasty sailing-inspired conclusions, don't. :)))
              1. matross
                matross 7 February 2014 20: 15
                +2
                As you correctly noted earlier, the discussion is public, therefore, a remark with a small example is not only for you, but also for other members of the community, among whom there are less knowledgeable ones. Did you catch the meaning of the simplest text?
                I do not know what is in your ears, but the fact that you are a boor is obvious. Stories about your high official position and exploits in the fight against werewolves in uniform - leave them for memoirs, they are of little interest and have nothing to do with the topic under discussion. By the way, did you read the phrase "major-important" from the books? This is a confusion of position and title, no one says so. You are probably, at most, a minor official in the district administration. Did you guess, or is the conclusion "hasty"? Don't bother answering hi
                I have the honor!
                1. smile
                  smile 7 February 2014 20: 46
                  -1
                  matross
                  1. If you didn’t tell me this, then it’s accepted.
                  2. I have never had a high official position, but it is enough to carry out some actions. :)))
                  3. For mom’s reasons :))) I don’t say ah-yi-yay, I didn’t say that my mother ended up serving as an investigator for especially important cases of the Main Investigative Directorate of the Republican Ministry of Internal Affairs, with the rank of police major - why write two words, if you can dozens, surviving common among ordinary people slang expressions do not understand, right? :)))
                  4. After your insulting hints in your comment, it’s strange that you call me a boor. :))) What didn’t you like? :)) The insults you just returned, slightly modified. :))) Yes, sometimes I am a boor. With those who, in my opinion, deserve it. You deserve it.
                  5. Regarding your clueless, extremely, well-grounded statement that I belong to a bureaucratic brotherhood ... :))) Are you sure. that you are not extrasex? :))) It's funny. Akela missed ... :)))) I'm actually an unemployed guest worker. Calm down and go further ... :)))
                  1. matross
                    matross 7 February 2014 21: 57
                    +1
                    Quote: smile
                    smile

                    Do not wash everything? Maybe he was mistaken with the bureaucrat, more likely an office hamster. From whom else do you hear among the local public, most of whom are very decent, hints of your incredible coolness and power, and even sprinkled with emoticons. And do not reassure me - I'm not excited.
                    1. smile
                      smile 7 February 2014 23: 22
                      +1
                      matross
                      Yeah ... now I'm an office hamster ... :))) Even closer ... :))) So I, like, admitted that I was a Tajik janitor ... :)))
                      Let me ask, what is my incredible coolness? The fact that I just once did not pass by and then I was taken to the department along with police officers who violated the law? :))) Is it that normal police officers came to my call (or rather, not to my opinion - I gave my wife a phone - it was in '98 and the phone was one for two)? Or the fact that police officers who violated the law were punished? :))) Zot and not what they deserved?
                      I am glad that you are calm, I believe in that. No kidding.
                      I am glad that you no longer trynd about the title and position of my mother, which I mentioned (by the way, she began her service with a sobering-up station - I don’t remember who I was then 5 years old :)))).
                      And the fact that you are not able to admit mistakes, I treat with understanding. :))) But it’s really funny to me that when you yourself understand that you’ve made a mistake, that all the arguments voiced - down the drain — you violently cling to your assessment of me — not good ... :))) Of course, I’m diagnosed, how can a former officer refuse him ... :))) True, yes? :))) Honor does not shake? Forgive me for these two words - this is an insult. I understand. but if honor, then admit mistakes. if not, then what to talk about? What an honor?
                      I beg you, do not swear at me for emoticons - I really find it funny, although, I admit, at times the laugh is evil. By commenting on the "major important" you pissed me off. Moreover, I see that the aphids really believed in their design. And when there were no arguments left, your comments began to consist of "pure faith". Maybe it's time to calm down, or at least admit that you could be wrong? :)))
                      Goodbye. Now I’ll tell you - you can not trouble yourself with the answer, everything is obvious to me already .... and to you, by the way, too, you don’t look like a dumbass .... :)))
                      1. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 7 February 2014 23: 26
                        +3
                        Quote: smile
                        .Now I'm an office hamster.

                        Toothy drinks Well, who we just weren't on this site what True, those who gave us an assessment for the most part in one category-Banned am
                      2. smile
                        smile 8 February 2014 00: 29
                        +2
                        Ruslan67
                        :))) No, this guy is not exactly like that, he really believed in what he wrote ... believed that I am an official and a hamster, entot, awesome ... :))) Obviously a former police officer 100% - that says in his favor. :))) Hey MatRoss, am I right?
                        By and large, I wouldn’t run into him if he hadn’t tried to cling to my mother’s title as stated by me ... :)))

                        By the way, I saw the movie "The Defense of the Castle". Alex 241 found it for me and gave me a link. Overall, the film is gorgeous. But there are complaints. Serious. Both in terms of plot and reliability. You yourself understand which ones. :))) But I won't talk about it. :))) I will not poke around. :))) Religious pacifists just killed me! :))) I didn't know that there were such people then. Music and girls are still awful. The soundtrack is already being compiled for me. In any case, it is necessary to watch the film. But how could you mislead me with the title of the movie? I was torn out by Sasha for incorrectly naming the film as a cat ... he generally threatened me with a public flogging in front of the formation. :))) Or did you watch it in the original? in the same place the translation is quite intricate - both the tower of the castle, and the defense of the castle, and the defense of the castle - fit well .... :)))
                        By the way. I thought a little, why did the Americans create such a film? And he came to the conclusion - the bottom of the Vietnam War ... it is necessary to mobilize public opinion ... that’s the result. Great movie. Thanks Tabe. here!
                      3. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 8 February 2014 03: 55
                        +2
                        Quote: smile
                        But how could you fool me with the name of the movie?

                        The first time I watched it in the 90th year. Then in St. Petersburg there was a Russian Video company under the roof of the regional committee and they played Western films at night. Then he went under the same name as I wrote. request
                      4. usaratov
                        usaratov 8 February 2014 04: 15
                        0
                        So many words and so little meaning. And excuse the "show-off" even more than words.
                      5. smile
                        smile 8 February 2014 12: 48
                        -1
                        usaratov
                        Is there anything concrete to say, or did you just want to yap? :)))
                  2. matross
                    matross 8 February 2014 13: 33
                    -3
                    Quote: Ruslan67
                    those who gave us a rating for the most part in one category-Banned am

                    Why so small? Would write - we will calculate you, you have problems, my friend ... so it’s worse.
            2. usaratov
              usaratov 8 February 2014 04: 12
              0
              It seems a decent site. And here you are with your childish pathos. .. But at least funny. thank
        2. usaratov
          usaratov 8 February 2014 04: 08
          -2
          A very heroic story. They didn’t give the medal?
          1. smile
            smile 8 February 2014 12: 52
            +1
            usaratov
            Yeah, they did. But not for that ... :))) Scatter of the hotel ...... :)))
            1. usaratov
              usaratov 9 February 2014 01: 10
              -1
              Of course they gave you a medal - "Balabol" 7th degree, wear it with pride, worthy.
              1. smile
                smile 10 February 2014 01: 16
                0
                usaratov
                :))) Don’t expect .... a female dog ... :))) gave what they gave .... :))) And whether they awarded me reasonably - it was not decided at the zoo. :))) Attempts of the fauna they don’t have to say anything ... well, who listens to the squeals of poor animals listed in the Red Book, right? :))) My condolences. :))) I hope you do not get caught by fleas, and the skeleton will serve science. :))) Remember the saying - with a black sheep even a tuft of wool? :)))
      2. usaratov
        usaratov 8 February 2014 04: 06
        0
        Nice answer. Keep it up.
    3. rereture
      rereture 7 February 2014 21: 17
      +2
      You are greatly exaggerating.

      Think seriously, would you like us to have this? Are you sure that this would not affect you and your loved ones in the most tragic way?


      I have a law abiding family.


      Conflicted with the police when they were wrong? I was in conflict, and put the presumptuous in place, and even arranged serious trouble for illegal actions, up to the quiet dismissal "of my own free will" - I did not need noise. (I confess, I used my official position :)))


      It’s clear with you.
  14. smile
    smile 8 February 2014 01: 15
    +1
    rereture
    You see, what a thing, I, too, am not against the harsh detentions of those who have fallen ... in tuples, and the use of weapons to defeat in the event of resistance .... but I am against their executions. It’s not good to kill people at all. And if you need to do this, then you should limit yourself to the necessary minimum. And this should be treated as an unpleasant procedure, without joyful cries- Atu him! Atu!
    Otherwise, who will we become? This is generally an unpleasant thing - now, you talked to a person, albeit a bad one, bang ... and he is already a piece of meat that soon stinks (moreover, it stinks so that Mama doesn’t grieve!) And must be pushed into a ravine ... let decays away from the living ... when it’s a gangster and Allah is with him ... and when it’s just a drunk guy who raised his voice, who was shot just in case, namely this is what the article is about ... it's a little different ... .in theory, give a rowdy in the forehead ... with his shocker in the ass and 15 days ... and that's it ... he will repent and apologize in the morning ... but if a bullet comes in his forehead, what will you get? Destitute family?

    But it is precisely these who are half the victims of the American police ... do you want this to happen with us?
    As for the migrants ... do not tell me, please - migrant Central Asians are much less likely to resist than our peasants ... these in general. like sheep ... therefore, they would shoot first of all at the Russians, if your dream came true, and our police would gain the same rights as the American ... do you think we would all be better off from this? :)))
    1. matross
      matross 8 February 2014 13: 27
      -2
      Quote: smile
      a drunk guy who raised his voice, who was shot just in case, and this is what the article is about ... it's a little different .... in theory, give a rowdy in the forehead ... shock him in the ass and 15 days ... and everything ... he will repent and apologize in the morning ...

      Wow! The Great and Terrible Smiling Dogs themselves deigned to pass off my thought as mine! Not verbatim, of course, the link is not required, but flattered, flattered!
      1. smile
        smile 8 February 2014 14: 26
        0
        matross
        I am not guilty of the fact that you deigned not to understand what I had in mind. What I spoke out against. And if I partially agree with you, this does not mean at all that I hid your ingenious, probably patented thoughts. :)) Maybe it is you who consider yourself and your thoughts as brilliant and fundamentally unique, eh? Nimbus does not press, huh?
        By the way, when the arguments end. some begin to cling to nicknames and avatars - why be so humiliated? :))) All your pathetics went down the drain, terrible revelations turned out to be a dummy. And you could not miss this. :)) Well. that we’ll admit mistakes, because you were saying something sublime and pathos about honor there? :)) Where is the honor? Although what am I talking about - geniuses do not admit their mistakes ... :))) You can calm down - I recognize you as the smartest, most beautiful and finally - the greatest. You can look for your honor somewhere lying around. Wash her thoroughly at the same time - she really needs it.
        1. matross
          matross 8 February 2014 14: 36
          -1
          Quote: smile
          I am not guilty of the fact that you deigned not to understand what I had in mind. What I spoke out against.

          Your thought would fit in one short sentence. The rest is rudeness, arrogance and exercises in dubious wit, clogging up the forum.
          1. smile
            smile 8 February 2014 16: 11
            0
            matross
            It’s strange if you understood all of the above, and even managed to fit compactly into one sentence, so what’s the matter? Waving your honor pathetically? By the way, I didn’t see your side admitting that you were wrong - genius doesn’t allow it? Where is your honor?
            1. matross
              matross 9 February 2014 14: 00
              -1
              Quote: smile
              Where is your honor?

              Mine is with me. And you probably exchanged yours for tiring importunity.
              1. smile
                smile 10 February 2014 01: 25
                0
                matross
                Look, you .... answered ... :))) Yes .... you tired me ... :))) But I thought that you were the honor that they were boasting about, but still apply ... I was mistaken . You have no honor .... in principle ... you can only pathetically mention it and wave it like a tattered rag to enhance the emotional effect of your words - because you cannot recognize your mistakes in principle. Therefore, you are simply dishonorable. So, do not blame the honor of mentioning yourself next to her. Goodbye. I was wrong. I thought you were smarter and more honest. Goodbye. Good luck.
                1. matross
                  matross 10 February 2014 20: 51
                  -1
                  Tell me, in the morning in front of the mirror, the word "gan-dong" never occurs to you?
                2. smile
                  smile 11 February 2014 23: 23
                  0
                  matross
                  No, I don’t think about you in the morning .... it's very bad, right? I hope you don’t charge me with this as an accusation? :))))
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  • alone
    alone 7 February 2014 21: 33
    +1
    Quote: smile
    Well, yes ... and so five thousand people a year ... :)))) We still have not put out the North Caucasus bonfire, the smoldering war, but we are not even close to such a number of victims. Do you want our police to kill people left and right, in thousands, for example, when the street is crossed incorrectly? :)) Nu-nu ... :)))

    laughingVladimir hi , Of course, he did not think about the fact that he, too, could be shot accidentally, shooting left and right lol
  • sergey261180
    sergey261180 7 February 2014 15: 46
    +1
    No matter how scolded the American cops, but statistics are stubborn things, they do their job well:
    in terms of homicide per 100000 population

    USA - 4,2 kills
    Russia - 10,2 kills
    Worse only in Honduras - 91,6, but there the name of the country as it alludes to.
    1. smile
      smile 7 February 2014 16: 19
      0
      sergey261180
      If we created the same system of total control of the population, the same society of general denunciation (which we have never had), then we would not have the worst results. And the merit here is not the police, but the state. Someone else dares to complain that we have a police state ... Yes, our society would go berserk if such control over the population had been organized. We should also not forget that our "achievements" are based on the mess that accompanied the collapse of the country. For example, by the year 96 compared to 86, children's drug addiction in our country increased 600 times! If the United States experienced this, the world would shudder from the barbarity that would be happening in the United States. See what's going on with them in an emergency - for example, during Hurricane Catherine, or just when there is a power outage. You are comparing countries in different situations, and this is not only the merit of the police - in our conditions, the police would not kill five thousand a year, but fifty, and they would not cope. According to their police officers, they simply would not be able to work in the conditions in which our cops work.
  • IRBIS
    IRBIS 7 February 2014 15: 55
    +3
    Quote: rereture
    In the video, a crowd of people interferes with detaining a police brawler who beats him. A policeman shot him

    And he did the right thing! Still it would be necessary to bang a couple of especially zealous "intercessors", because this is an ordinary greyhound. No one has the right to prevent employees from performing their duties and, moreover, to use force against them.
    Hardly what happened, right away: “Where are the police looking?”, But in such cases, screams about lawlessness begin.
  • Andreitas
    Andreitas 7 February 2014 14: 15
    -1
    Is our policeman better?
    1. leks
      leks 7 February 2014 15: 18
      +3
      But such a comparison is not in your favor. Do not say our cops vryatly bang you during an ordinary call, watch hundreds of videos on YouTube how ours are delayed and draw up a protocol on drunken violators who beat them almost in the face, and compare with the American cops how they produce detention, there they do not stand on ceremony for not submitting, and you can get a bullet, but with us you can send and kick, and you can win the court.
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      2. siberalt
        siberalt 7 February 2014 16: 16
        +2
        Our policemen are normal guys, until their system drives them into their liberal matrix. What is the regime - such is its protector.
  • AvadraCedavra
    AvadraCedavra 7 February 2014 17: 16
    +1
    Another custom article, the purpose of which is to discredit the US legal system. The cases described in the article are either untrue or severely distorted. Some facts of abuse and abuse of power among police officers in the United States do occur, but this cannot be compared with the legal lawlessness that is happening in Russia. The materials of some criminal cases involving Russian police officers can easily form the basis of a script for a horror movie. The use of weapons by police in the United States is regulated and a detailed check is carried out for each such case. Any unlawful actions of the police will entail the payment of very large compensation in claims of victims of their actions. There are many precedents.
  • alal
    alal 7 February 2014 17: 41
    -2
    Quote: siberalt
    Our policemen are normal guys, until their system drives them into their liberal matrix. What is the regime - such is its protector.


    Bottles and mops in the asses? no, have not heard...
    1. smile
      smile 7 February 2014 18: 24
      +3
      alal
      They didn’t hear in vain - this is not such a rare occurrence ... in their prisons, sexual violence is a total occurrence. as well as mass humiliation and bullying of prisoners and suspects. Or do you think that in Abu Ghraib and Guantanomo they get exclusively chikatil? No, these are ordinary American boys and girls. What can you do if you mock at prisoners and people under investigation - the norm for US law enforcement officers, brutalized from impunity? Just the bottom psychology is this. By the way, were there any massive landings of savages? :)))

      But 10-year-old children killed in the delivery to the police station, handcuffed when they were detained at school, they have them. We do not have. :))) And when it becomes known to us about mops, everyone sits down. They dont have. And how can sadists be imprisoned if torture is officially legalized in the USA ... true for strangers ...
  • alal
    alal 7 February 2014 17: 43
    -1
    Quote: Burmeister
    It seems that they want to turn us into the same disenfranchised people who live in the USA.


    I can only write Bugaga here in response.
  • klim44
    klim44 7 February 2014 18: 55
    -1
    Where do writers like the author of the article grow? According to the text of the article, a normal person will not even argue - BREDDDDDDDDD !!!!
    Just a couple of questions to the author or to the commentators, are there cases when an American policeman, after being carried away by his superiors, drove into a supermarket and shot at innocent citizens? Well, or such a moment, in the US, police officers are facing prohibition signs, thereby preventing an offense, in our country, as you know, the opposite is true, the police are in ambush waiting for a violation. I’m not talking about the stick system, for example, traffic police officers are still supposed to catch criminals, although their main and only task should be road safety. By the way, according to statistics in the USA, 1000 kopecks per 2,3 citizens (750000 total) in the Russian Federation - 7,7 (110600 total), data for 2112, here is the link http://www.kp.ru/daily/25929/ 2879080 /. This is the question of where the police state is located.
    1. shuhartred
      shuhartred 8 February 2014 03: 19
      +1
      Quote: klim44
      , there are cases when an American policeman, after being smashed from his superiors, drove into a supermarket and shot at innocent citizens?

      One lunatic doesn’t count.
      Quote: klim44
      Well, or such a moment, in the US, police officers are facing prohibition signs, thereby preventing an offense, in our country, as you know, the opposite is true, the police are in ambush waiting for a violation.

      That is, that they have that we have the police somewhere nearby. Only there and there will be no violation. They see the police, and we know that she is in an ambush, hoping for maybe your problems.
      Quote: klim44
      for example, traffic police are still supposed to catch criminals, although their main and only task should be road safety.

      And in the US, the traffic police will calmly watch how the offense is committed? The traffic police is also the police and they are obliged to protect public order.
      Quote: klim44
      data for 2112

      I understand that a typo, but I want to fast fellow
  • alal
    alal 7 February 2014 18: 58
    -2
    Quote: smile
    alal
    They didn’t hear in vain - this is not such a rare occurrence ... in their prisons, sexual violence is a total occurrence. as well as mass humiliation and bullying of prisoners and suspects. Or do you think that in Abu Ghraib and Guantanomo they get exclusively chikatil? No, these are ordinary American boys and girls. What can you do if you mock at prisoners and people under investigation - the norm for US law enforcement officers, brutalized from impunity? Just the bottom psychology is this. By the way, were there any massive landings of savages? :)))

    But 10-year-old children killed in the delivery to the police station, handcuffed when they were detained at school, they have them. We do not have. :))) And when it becomes known to us about mops, everyone sits down. They dont have. And how can sadists be imprisoned if torture is officially legalized in the USA ... true for strangers ...

    About guantanamo and abugraib - no need. In Chechnya, normal Russian guys were hanging bandits on tank guns and tortured with electricity - but that doesn’t count. I think war is separate.

    I wrote about normal people, about those who are tortured in police stations. You are right when you talk about demonstrative landings, but demonstrative landings are a drop in the bucket. So look for the beam in your eye.

    about legal torture - I cried ...
  • I think so
    I think so 7 February 2014 20: 37
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    Described in the article is the future of Russia and its policemen ... and in many cities the real present is already ...
  • denis02135
    denis02135 8 February 2014 04: 25
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    Funny little thing lol Hatred of the Americans is good. More than 5000 were killed, but in what time?
    Since 9/11, about 5,000 Americans have been killed by US police officers. (this is for 13 years) and somehow bloodthirstiness fades right away. I live in the States for 16 years. If the policeman stopped, smile, take a fine and send a receipt to the court (out of 6 fines, I paid two, I defended 4). And you will be able to speak and mash and arrest. I contacted the police 4 times, only positive emotions. (But to someone, maybe not)
    1. usaratov
      usaratov 8 February 2014 04: 35
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      Judging by earlier comments, and the article itself, you should have been killed 4 times by planting 20 bullets ;-)
  • usaratov
    usaratov 8 February 2014 04: 26
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    The article does not touch on the topic of police organization in the United States. And she is different there. It’s one thing in New York, where the devil’s head is broken, and another is a provincial city, where the work of law enforcement agencies and their structure is very different from megacities. Of those who criticize the American cops, at least once in America? I'm not talking about permanent residence. I don’t defend the US police, I am simply amazed at the ability of people to categorically condemn what they have no idea.
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 8 February 2014 08: 57
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    Well, in general, logical behavior for a country where potentially every second may have a trunk and bad intentions. Yes, overlays happen, but we have a lot of them. Only there they shoot, and we have stuffed bottles in the ass. At the same time, everyone understands that if it weren’t for the police, then there would be a real scribe. As an example, funny 90, when it was better to come home not too late.