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Yerevan and Baku. Boiling point

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Within a few days, clashes between the parties to the protracted conflict took place at a whole range of border areas between Armenia and Azerbaijan. According to a number of news agencies, not only the border forces of Armenia and Azerbaijan, but also police units were involved in the armed conflict. Accurate data on the dead and wounded is not reported. According to preliminary information, about four dozen people were killed, the majority of whom were soldiers of the Nagorno-Karabakh Defense Army (as these units are called in Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh), several dozen more people were injured. This is reported by the Turkish edition. "Yeni Safak". According to several Western news agencies, even armored vehicles have been brought to the places of the most acute conflicts.


If the conflict is not settled in the near future, then we can confidently say that through the losses from the one and the other side will go to the hundreds.

Yerevan and Baku. Boiling point


This is the first very large-scale conflict between Yerevan and Baku since the middle of last year. In November, 2013 held a meeting between the leaders of the two countries - Serzh Sargsyan and Ilham Aliyev, which ended, according to the estimates of one and the other, quite positively. But, apparently, at that level, the situation around Nagorno-Karabakh heated up the peaceful potential of a personal meeting of the two presidents dried up in less than three months, and the shots at the border again force us to talk about the fact that the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict is far from a full-fledged settlement.
The conflict is armed, with firing of automatic weapons and sniper rifles in positions of each other, superimposed on the most real information war, in which the parties are trying to outdo each other. As a result, a very bizarre mix is ​​born that fills the information geopolitical space and tries to break free, let's say, into new open spaces.

To understand that the information war in the region is in full swing, let us cite several quotes from the Azerbaijani and Armenian print and electronic media.

AZE.az (Azerbaijan):
During the day, the Armenians violated the cease-fire in all directions 66 times.


Radio Azatutyun (Armenia):
During the night, the enemy in different parts of the border of small arms, gunners and machine guns about 300 once violated the cease-fire.


APA (Azerbaijan):

Yesterday and this night, Armenian armed units from positions in the village of Mosesgerkh of the Berdsky District of Armenia, fired upon the positions of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces located on the nameless heights of the Tovuz region. Positions of the Azerbaijani army were also fired from positions located near the villages of Ashagi Abdurrahmanli, Garakhanbeyli of the Fizuli region and on the nameless heights of the Goranboy region.


AMI "News-Armenia":
The Azerbaijani Armed Forces made unsuccessful attempts to penetrate the territory of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic by sabotage groups, but were thrown back to their original positions, suffering losses. In a shootout, the junior sergeant of the NKR Defense Army Armen Hovhannisyan was killed. And on Tuesday, a Karabakh serviceman Karen Galstyan was shot dead by an Azerbaijani sniper. Last week, information was received about the shelling by Azerbaijani soldiers of a number of Armenian villages in the Tavush region, a sixteen-year-old resident of the border village Aygepar was injured.


Who provoked the “new” conflict? To answer this question objectively, apparently, it is not possible for one simple reason: in a territory that has been in a state of permanent hostilities for about two and a half decades (sometimes with truces and handshakes by the leader of the two countries, then with spontaneous military actions by armies in relation to each other), any spark is enough for the situation to literally explode. The Armenian side blames Azerbaijanis exclusively on all the sparking "sparks", the Azerbaijani side exclusively Armenians. Inside this vicious circle, the temperature begins to rise, the accumulating steam is still “set off” in the form of the very frontier skirmishes and a series of mutual pretensions, however, it may well go so far that the Nagorno-Karabakh boiler will simply take off into the air. What will happen to the region? I don’t even want to talk about these scenarios ... Of course, neither the Armenian nor the Azerbaijani side, nor anyone sober, wants to realize these scenarios, however, there are many who want to plunge the Caucasian region into the chaos in this world, and therefore skirmishes in the Transcaucasus is hardly worth treating, let's say, with coolness.

In this regard, it is worth paying attention to the words that were recently expressed by US Secretary of State John Kerry at the Munich Security Conference. Kerry literally stated the following:

You do not hear about this, but we are working to resolve the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict in the Caucasus.


Why not hear? We hear. Apparently, those shots are the work of the US State Department to resolve the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict? ..

Of course, one can reasonably talk about the “effectiveness” of the settlement of the conflict by American diplomats, but in this situation the peacekeeping efforts on the part of Russia look rather dubious. But without the participation of a major regional player, Russia’s objectively today is to put the parties at the negotiating table and, as they say, to bring them to the conclusion of really working agreements on peaceful partnership, it will definitely not work. It will not work for the simple reason that both Baku and Yerevan will stand firmly on their own. The position of some: our territory is occupied or something like that; the position of others: our territory is annexed or again something like that ... With such approaches, and even without real (precisely real, not blurred in time and not left in the background - for a pile of non-working documents) diplomatic assistance, not only smolder, but eventually turn into the same, ready for the explosion, the cauldron (and, perhaps, is already turning).

But diplomatic assistance from Russia today may come across a peculiar nuance, and, by and large, is already coming. The nuance is that Armenia is a full member of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO). Azerbaijan, we recall, is not. That is, diplomacy here must be so flexible and correct that its administration with respect to the issues of resolving the Transcaucasian conflict does not lead to even more negative consequences. CSTO here becomes a kind of stumbling block. Azerbaijan blames Armenia for joining the organization precisely in order to “grab” Nagorno-Karabakh; Armenia is trying to refute these accusations of opponents, however, it is clearly not very enthusiastic about the fact that the CSTO in the conflict is silent.

But here it remains only to say thanks to the CSTO for being silent ... Otherwise, the bloody scenario would be provided. After all, the military or even “okolovoennaya” support of one of the parties is a disaster scenario. Does the CSTO suit this position with official Yerevan? Well, here it is: if in Yerevan they don’t want a lot of blood, then they will have to put up with the position. If they don’t want a lot of blood in Baku, then they should react with more restraint, because the problem cannot be solved solely on accusations of occupation and other “charms”.
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  1. bomg.77
    bomg.77 5 February 2014 07: 10
    +27
    Also ready for the Olympics, I’ll look. There are no other options for 20 years, no solutions have been found ((
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      1. builder
        builder 5 February 2014 07: 45
        +13
        "The inadequacy, uncivilization of the two peoples ....." is a strong saying, the words of a civilized and adequate person ... "-"
        1. Civil
          Civil 5 February 2014 08: 10
          +6
          Quote: stroitel
          "The inadequacy, uncivilization of the two peoples ....." is a strong saying, the words of a civilized and adequate person ... "-"

          Civilized and adequate people do not divide people by nationality and, accordingly, can calmly agree on a solution to the conflict. And even more precisely, they would not cut each other on a national basis. This is ordinary Nazism. How does this differ from how hundreds of thousands of Tutsis were cut from a massacre in Sumgait, for example, in a Hutu machete?
          1. Romn
            Romn 5 February 2014 08: 33
            +16
            Everything is much simpler, the territorial conflict does not allow Azerbaijan to join the EU and NATO, as you may know from the example of Georgia. In this situation, Russia simply cannot afford to let this issue be resolved. And the enmity between the two neighbors makes it possible to maintain a military base in Armenia and have a "loyal ally" in the Caucasus!
            Rather, all the same, of course, the fault lies with the leadership of Azerbaijan, the Aliyev family, or rather, their ardent about the Western mood. But you can understand them, everyone is looking for a place warmer ...
            No need to judge the people, just Armenia and Azerbaijan are another point of contact between the interests of various countries!
            1. Apollo
              Apollo 5 February 2014 09: 09
              +5
              Quote: Romn
              And the enmity between the two neighbors makes it possible to keep a military base in Armenia and have "faithful ally" in the Caucasus

              Amused what you highlighted by me, quoted! good Voluntarily or involuntarily, but you have reflected the true state of things. good
              Further, for a moment, let’s imagine that there is no war and peaceful coexistence between Azerbaijan and Armenia. The question is, would Armenia join the CSTO and subsequently the CU?! Is that it? would hurt.
              Quote: Romn
              No need to judge the people, just Armenia and Azerbaijan another common ground of interests of various countries!

              No comment.
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              3. AVV
                AVV 5 February 2014 12: 04
                +1
                Quote: Apollon
                No need to judge the people, just Armenia and Azerbaijan are another point of contact between the interests of various countries!

                The presidents of Armenia and Azerbaijan themselves voted for the collapse of the Soviet Union! The result of this collapse is reaping now !!!
            2. xetai9977
              xetai9977 5 February 2014 09: 37
              -9
              The tortured old people, women and children of Khojaly. 617 people died. Do you think this is normal?
              1. Vova Vartanov
                Vova Vartanov 5 February 2014 14: 17
                +13
                Have you been there, dear? If so, where? Personally, I participated in this operation and if you are really interested in what happened there, I can share it.
                For reference, I was the commander of a special forces group under the actual commander of Armenia.
                1. smersh70
                  smersh70 5 February 2014 14: 35
                  -8
                  Quote: Vova Vartanov
                  If you are really interested in what happened there, I can share it.

                  You could be anyone at the front, standing either on the left flank or on the right. But the facts are a straightforward thing - 617 people who lived, don’t live right now. They were all exterminated. You’ll start right now about the corridor, about the humane attitude towards the prisoners women and children, I’ll put you a video about how their exchange took place. Then it will begin. We’ll better talk about the current state of affairs .......
                  1. Vova Vartanov
                    Vova Vartanov 5 February 2014 14: 43
                    +7
                    I was in the rear of the Turks, in the lands of the village of Shelley, a couple of kilometers from Agdam, behind the positions of the Popular Front and the army battalion, opposite these positions were the posts of villagers from Nakhichevanik (they do not resemble anything).
                    Here is my comment posted on the website http://azerichild.info
                    A good site, correct (for US), it’s very useful to know who you are dealing with, as to its language, probably all the same it’s not true to present all the information in a language that is understandable to Azerbaijanis, I’m SURE we don’t harm the Armenians, animal, suggested from childhood hatred of us Armenians.
                    As a result, there can only be caution towards beastmen (Budapest), being on the lookout for US is useful.
                    Together with hatred, our neighbors form complexes, fears, in the end, all this benefits the battlefield, and WE are with them in a state of WAR!
                    Being in reconnaissance under the walls of Agdam, I was an eyewitness of the shooting by the People’s Front of Azerbaijan to the Khojaly residents, at first there was a desire, despite the secrecy of our detachment, ALL TELL THE WORLD ABOUT THIS CRIME COMMITTED BY THE TURKS, but there was a sharp ban on doing this - the reason is simple, the terror inflicted on azeri began to bring we are of substantial benefit, no one even tried to try to understand whether the Armenians were so stupid that having the opportunity to destroy people in Khojaly did not do it, SLIDELY SLIPPED BETWEEN THE AZERI POSITIONS AND COMMIT CRIMES UNDER THE WALLS OF THE ARMED TO ZUBROGEROGLEROGAROGRONOGOROGOROGOROGOROGOROGOROGROMA, it was not so great HAVING TWO BASES BACK ON A SEPARATE MOUTH IN EVERYONE (100-150 Askar each)
                    Just a rumor about our approach devastated vast territories, they scared themselves, and then, to justify their flight, they came up with increasingly terrible stories about Khojalu!
                    About five years ago, I first talked about this episode, and now I’m not sure that we should propagate the TRUTH about Khojalu among the inhabitants of the neighboring state, the peaceful Meskhetian Turks killed by YOURSELF, as it does not sound cynical, are giving us invaluable help, MEETING YOUR KILLERS to Azerbaijanis!
                    1. smersh70
                      smersh70 5 February 2014 18: 45
                      -3
                      Quote: Vova Vartanov
                      IN THE CONTROLLED AREA MUCH MORE THAN A STRONG ENEMY, HAVING TWO BASES BACK

                      in the shots made by Ch. Mustafayev, they arrived there on turntables, under the cover of 2 crocodiles from Ganja, this territory was not controlled by us, you can see how the shelling began and the turntables leave. MI-24 is being covered. About a dozen countries recognized the Khojaly tragedy, everyone is talking about it, here the audience was found an all-same scout who knew everything and didn’t tell anyone. erase, we are guilty as always again)))
                      I truly love Russian proverbs, whose cow ........
                      1. Vova Vartanov
                        Vova Vartanov 5 February 2014 20: 52
                        +3
                        We took control of this territory only after a year and a half. What you or those who told you invented by and large is not important, the important thing is that the Turks - the "big bosses" were filmed next to the dead, demonstrating, I hope, true grief ... And this, as many Turks claim, is in close proximity to ours. positions within effective fire range !? In general, I don't care whether you believe me or not, I saw and heard how all this happened and I am ready to testify to any court!
                      2. alone
                        alone 5 February 2014 23: 01
                        -2
                        The area where the mass extermination took place was located near the village of Nakhichevanik. This village was almost always under the control of Armenian military forces. This village was taken by us once during the summer offensive 1992 on June 12, but due to the fact that the heights closest to the village were not taken, he had to be left. You are lying, and you are lying openly, and if you really fought, you would not have written it. Respect at least your soldiers who were dying. when you held the defense in this village.

                        These are the words of your commander, the current president of Armenia.


                        When the Armenian commander Serge Sargsyan was asked to talk about the capture of Khojaly, he cautiously replied: "We prefer not to talk about it out loud." As for the number of victims, he said that “a lot was exaggerated,” and the runaway Azerbaijanis offered armed resistance. However, regarding the events that occurred, Sargsyan spoke more honestly and more harshly:
                        “But I think the main question was completely different. Before Khojaly, Azerbaijanis thought that we could make jokes with us, they thought that the Armenians were not able to raise a hand on the civilian population. We managed to break this [stereotype]. Here is what happened. And we must also take into account that among those boys there were people who fled from Baku and Sumgait ”

                        Maybe Serge is also lying?
                      3. Vova Vartanov
                        Vova Vartanov 6 February 2014 11: 31
                        +4
                        Quote: lonely
                        the area where the mass extermination took place was near the village of Nakhichevanik
                        - Nearly ! More precisely, they were killed between the road to Nakhichevanik and the village of Shelley - they shot their two reinforced Turkish posts with crossfire, most likely mistaking the Karabakh self-defense forces for the advancing column. They set up an ambush, allowing the head of the Khojaly column to advance almost to the front between the Narodnik posts and the military.
                      4. alone
                        alone 6 February 2014 19: 26
                        -5
                        Quote: Vova Vartanov
                        - Nearly ! More precisely, they were killed between the road to Nakhichevanik and the village of Shelley - they shot their two reinforced Turkish posts with crossfire, most likely mistaking the Karabakh self-defense forces for the advancing column. They set up an ambush, allowing the head of the Khojaly column to advance almost to the front between the Narodnik posts and the military.


                        You're lying again! it was impossible to confuse women and children with the military. I only repeat yours on the part of the Nakhchivan. To save people I had to raise the whole squad and go to the rescue. Those who survived were saved after we managed to pay off one of your two posts. Where our murder was committed there were no forces. This proves the video. You are lying, and you are lying impudently and cynically.
                      5. Vova Vartanov
                        Vova Vartanov 7 February 2014 21: 36
                        +1
                        Before calling me a liar, TURN ON YOUR BRAIN, it is not for nothing that Nature has awarded you them! Women with children confused because there was DEEP February night, before going out to the ITS fugitives and destroyed one turn away the second post RURAL militias Nakhichevanik (!), The Turks in the post opened fire after 15-20 minutes after the silent SHOOTING FROM THIS COLLISION , SHOOTED THE BARRELS IN A HUNDRED AND HUNDRED AND FIFTY, THERE WAS ALSO SOME SHOTS FROM THE GUN OR THE Grenade Launcher (plainly did not make out), then it all died down ... And so, to be honest, by and large I believe it or not!
                      6. alone
                        alone 8 February 2014 00: 04
                        -5
                        Firstly, extinguish the caps, there are no blind people. How did you witness this if you didn’t see a shot from a cannon or a grenade launcher? The post was destroyed just to allow the remaining survivors to break through towards Agdam. And what kind of special forces commander are you Cannot distinguish a shot from a gun from a grenade launcher? Our Internet warrior!

                        Women confused with children BECAUSE THERE WAS A DEEP FEBRUARY NIGHT


                        Secondly, these alone are enough to understand that you are lying! You say that we killed these people like ourselves, but now it turns out that they were simply confused, because it was February night.
                      7. Vova Vartanov
                        Vova Vartanov 8 February 2014 14: 42
                        +2
                        Firstly, that the Turks confused the fugitives, and did not kill them intentionally - this is my suggestion.
                        Secondly, several shots from a large caliber were already fired by the post of the Turkish military - they were to the left of me and there was a hill between us and there were clapping sounds, and after a few seconds of gaps, I was in the immediate rear of the Popular Front, which were the first to start shooting the column. adjusted their actions to defeat the "attackers", I do not know - in any case, when the Turks put forward several armored vehicles to consolidate the "success" they did it simultaneously!
                    2. apollo
                      apollo 8 February 2014 00: 29
                      +3
                      Vova is useless with them, they dug in here :), which is on the forehead, and each time such garbage, it seems to me that they are tired of it, but it’s necessary to work out the money from the head office
      2. baku1999
        baku1999 6 February 2014 01: 04
        -2
        DELIVER DELIVERY, LET SEE THE TRUTH, EVERYTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        1. apollo
          apollo 8 February 2014 00: 34
          +2
          I imagine an old VM-12 with a VHS cassette creaking in it, guys, stop, I understand you are working on it, you’ve got it all, well, open some website for yourself and put everything there, write, discuss ...
          It seems to me, deep down, that you understand that all this mess that you made here is not effective, I understand that you need to denigrate everyone and everything before others, with tears and foam in your mouth, shake pieces of paper in Turkish, but that will not help you believe ...
  • smersh70
    smersh70 5 February 2014 10: 39
    -12%
    Quote: Romn
    lives on the leadership of Azerbaijan, the Aliyev family,

    and what does it do for a long time, just give your territories to a foreign state, and why do not you give the islands to the Japanese, Kaliningrad to the Germans, and so on. land does not sell comrade, this is not a car or oil to you
    1. kris
      kris 5 February 2014 11: 51
      +2
      Dear smersh70.
      What kind of boom do you have with the fleet commander?
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 5 February 2014 18: 47
        -2
        Quote: kris
        What kind of boom do you have with the fleet commander?

        Yes, he’s in place)))) but the thieves are sent to prison, so they need it. There are serious changes, a caste of untouchables has formed over the course of 20 years of our Minister of Defense. They stole, here they dovoryutsya. They are suddenly inspected, found something, in a day- be in the camera, welcome)))
    2. domokl
      domokl 5 February 2014 11: 52
      +16
      Quote: smersh70
      and what does it do for a long time, give just your territory to a stranger

      If you follow this logic, then destroy all the Armenians in this territory. One thing is stopping, the Armenians do not agree to leave the places where their grandfathers lived ... And they don’t want to be destroyed ...
      But didn’t you try to talk? Not to present claims to each other, but to listen to the claims of your neighbor?
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      1. smersh70
        smersh70 5 February 2014 22: 01
        -5
        Quote: genisis
        the merciless destruction of the Soviet Union was carried out with the relentless threat of creating the "Great Turan" -
        wow)) there is no prophet in our own country. SAME we started the war for the secession of Karabakh in favor of the great Turan, did we go to the first rallies in the center of Yerevan with portraits of Yakovlev and Gorbachev. THAT THEY ALREADY became bad, and then you prayed for them and to Raisa Gorbachev!
        Quote: genisis
        the energetic, transport and food blockade of the Armenian SSR and NKAR, the massacre in Baku (January 1990), ethnic cleansing of the Armenian villages of the NKAR, Shaumyan and Khanlar regions of the AzSS
        What did you think about when you wanted to chop off Karabakh, that you thought we’ll just look at YOU just like that. You just don’t have shame. We made porridge yourself, we wanted to open roads for you, let the trains pass. wassat
        1. Ptah
          Ptah 5 February 2014 23: 54
          0
          Vurgun, dear!
          Causation ... Both, spit, are good ...
          From the same opera as "Who Started World War II".
          Look for those whom YOU BOTH obstructed, or who achieved such goals in order to clear the territory of YOUR BOTH ...
          Aras - as a "competitor in the Holocaust", demanding to recognize something like that, but only from the Turks, Azerbaijan - as occupying a "hut" in the place of the Khazaristan ...
          The task is to thin out the ranks of both of them with the hands of those who are dissatisfied. Ways are good for any ...
          Knowing YOUR mentality turned out qualitatively, you will continue - amuse the talanted audience more than once ...
          1. smersh70
            smersh70 6 February 2014 00: 18
            -5
            Quote: Ptah
            Causation ... Both, spit, are good ...
            From the same opera as "Who Started World War II".
            No, dear, It is of paramount importance, as Lenin said. FOR YOU from the side by the drum, but it’s impossible without them to delve into the conflict resolution of the conflict. Moreover, here we should go with the Turks and the genocide. We sat quietly ,, they lived in the best houses with us, everything was fine. and here, wah, it’s snowing on their head, they want to secede. Now who benefits from the conflict, or rather its status quo to many large states, everyone has their own benefits. Not only refugees who do not die in their village (I saw many when they died, who asked me to die when they brought land from their villages to their grave) or children will be born who do not know the homeland of their ancestors.
      2. Yeraz
        Yeraz 5 February 2014 22: 07
        -2
        Quote: genisis
        creation of a myth about Azerbaijani "refugees" from the Kafan district of the Armenian SSR

        it turns out that part of my relatives is from Kafan and it was not expelled; it was a myth invented)))) Nerd, there are 2 representatives of Azerbaijanis from present-day Armenia. Therefore, leave your bzdzhe for others, instantly wipe out all the blatant lies.
        1. alone
          alone 5 February 2014 22: 21
          -4
          Quote: Yeraz
          Clever man, there are 2 representatives of Azerbaijanis from present-day Armenia.


          Ali, there are three of us)) and not two
          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz 5 February 2014 22: 25
            +1
            Quote: lonely
            Ali, there are three of us))

            I didn’t know about you))) So by and large 4, Vurgun also has roots))
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 5 February 2014 22: 42
              0
              Quote: Yeraz
              So for the most part 4, Vurgun also has roots))
              Well, if in the Supreme Council, kgda Gorbachev asked Hambardzumyan how many Azerbaijanis lived in Yerevan at the beginning of the last century, and he answered 1 million people, now multiply by 5, then right now 5 mln laughing I also call a poet-erasinier)))) mafia)))))
            2. alone
              alone 5 February 2014 22: 44
              -2
              Quote: smersh70
              Well, if in the Supreme Council, kgda Gorbachev asked Hambardzumyan how many Azerbaijanis lived in Yerevan at the beginning of the last century, and he himself answered 1 million people, now multiply by 5, now right now we have 5 mln poet I still call-erazinie)))) mafia) ))))

              wassat
            3. Yeraz
              Yeraz 6 February 2014 01: 01
              +3
              bully
              Quote: smersh70
              erazinie)))) mafia)))))
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  • ImpKonstantin
    ImpKonstantin 5 February 2014 08: 47
    +1
    Yes, even the fact that this is pure political squabble. And it is beneficial for politicians on the one hand and on the other, because why once again remind the people of low economic indicators, corruption and other problems when the "enemy" is at the gate.
  • builder
    builder 5 February 2014 08: 49
    +8
    Dear Civilian, you have just accused two people of inadequacy (I think that we got excited ....) In cases of specific politicians and thugs, you cannot judge whole nations. You can draw many historical parallels and they will take you far to where ..,
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 5 February 2014 08: 59
      +13
      Quote: stroitel
      For the affairs of specific politicians and scumbags it is impossible to judge whole nations.

      It turned out that on this site there are many representatives of Azerbaijan and a few from Armenia. And these are quite adequate and moderately polite people.
      Sometimes it happened that the administrator had to clean out whole "beards" of a srach. And this, I repeat, is civilized.
      You can imagine what is happening during the dialogues of "ordinary" people, i.e. "from the plow" ...
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 09: 11
        +19
        Quote: Ptah
        You can imagine what is happening during the dialogues of "ordinary" people, i.e. "from the plow" ...

        And what is there to imagine, just remove the moderation or see what dialogues there were between the diasporas on the site, when the site was just opened wassat
        It was like that...One bullet in the direction of Nakhchivan and I swear by my mother that I will cut all of Yerevan am
        And he answered ...Wah, yes, I’ll come to Baku and I’ll take you away and I swear the whole Baku-dadangry
        That's how it was here before wassat
        1. domokl
          domokl 5 February 2014 11: 56
          +4
          am Sasha, you are more careful with examples ... The hand is itching something with me))))) But in general I completely agree. Hatred is such that it takes your breath away ...
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 12: 28
            +1
            Quote: domokl
            Sasha, you are more careful with examples ... The hand is itching something with me))

            So it was with you everything and you don’t remember whether the Saitian warriors David against Omar wassat
            Great San hi
            1. domokl
              domokl 5 February 2014 12: 46
              +5
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Great San hi

              Strongly mutually ... I even remember trying to eat me laughing Yes, and you too laughing
              I read the whole thread of the dispute and again came across the usual scheme ... Less Armenians, Baku’s point of view is stealing. And again, most of them are gross lies ... Although I like Appolon ... I competently argue. Without drooling from my mouth. I respect such opponents .
            2. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 6 February 2014 03: 33
              +5
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              don't you remember whether sait warriors david against lobster

              Hi drinks This organism on D told me quite seriously in PM how our FSB receives valuable information about the number of sheep in the border regions of Turkey due to the alliance with Armenia request fool wassat
          2. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 5 February 2014 19: 21
            +5
            Quote: domokl
            Hatred is such that it takes your breath away ...


            Welcome all! hi

            For the sake of lowering the degree of glow, here winked:

            Australian soldiers caught in Turkey a Turkish sniper disguised as a cannabis bush, 1916, frankly I don’t even know who to suspect of addiction what .
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 5 February 2014 22: 02
              -2
              Quote: Karlsonn
              a sniper sniper disguised as a hemp bush,

              who has pain, that’s what laughing
        2. old rocket man
          old rocket man 6 February 2014 01: 09
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          That's how it was here before


          I confirm.
          But now it hasn’t improved much, there are still dialogues between the blind and the deaf wassat
      2. bomg.77
        bomg.77 5 February 2014 10: 05
        +6
        laughing
        Quote: Ptah
        You can imagine what is happening during the dialogues of "ordinary" people, i.e. "from the plow" ...
        For the problems and aspirations of the region, you can find out, so to speak, without embellishment, and learn the history of the region. I always, as you need to find out something, immediately to the forum))), and there they are already sitting with tracts ..... waiting ! laughing
        1. Ptah
          Ptah 5 February 2014 12: 26
          +3
          Quote: bomg.77
          and there they are sitting with tracts ..... waiting!

          Even the mood has risen ...
          Especially as presented ... "sitting / in the bushes / with treatises .... Waiting / when the shelling sector opens / ...
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 09: 05
      +19
      Quote: stroitel
      For the affairs of specific politicians and thugs, one cannot judge whole nations

      Gamsakhurdia the warrior and a bunch of corpses came to Georgia.
      Shevarnadze the warrior and a bunch of corpses came to Georgia.
      A Sakashvilli warrior and a bunch of corpses came to Georgia.
      They all came to power with the support of the people!
      To write about the USA?
      1. builder
        builder 5 February 2014 09: 16
        +4
        write about Gorbachev and his roles in these events.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 09: 29
          +3
          Quote: stroitel
          write about Gorbachev and his roles in these events.

          With Gamsakhurdia it is clear, but what role did Garbaty play with the rest?
          1. Apollo
            Apollo 5 February 2014 09: 53
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            With Gamsakhurdia it’s clearbut what role did Grbaty play with the rest

            Clear pepper, played along.
          2. smersh70
            smersh70 5 February 2014 10: 41
            -3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            the role played by Grbaty with the others?

            .. during the time did not stop the separatists' antics. They then recalled that after the first rally, they trembled at home, that right now they would call the KGU and send them to Siberia. But when they saw that no one was touching them, they began to speak more boldly Here is the result.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 11: 27
              +1
              Quote: smersh70

              .. during the time did not stop the separatists' antics

              Then Aliyev’s dad died in prison, somewhere in Siberia. Well, the heads of the Armenian, too.
              1. smersh70
                smersh70 5 February 2014 11: 44
                -6
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Then Aliyev’s dad died in prison, Mr.

                he was then sitting in the center of Moscow as an allied pensioner. In October 87, Gorbachev merged him, and what does he have to do with it, but it would be time for Krunk’s leaders to be sent to Siberia, as Stalin did in 1948 when they wanted to chop off Karabakh.
          3. Tiamat2702
            Tiamat2702 5 February 2014 13: 54
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: stroitel
            write about Gorbachev and his roles in these events.

            With Gamsakhurdia it is clear, but what role did Garbaty play with the rest?

            Elementary, Watson))))) - it means here, there would be no Gorbachev, there would not have been Gamsakhurdia with Saakashvilli ...
          4. builder
            builder 5 February 2014 18: 43
            0
            If Gorbachev at one time behaved correctly there would be no:
            [i] A Gamsakhurdia warrior and a bunch of corpses came to Georgia.
            Shevarnadze the warrior and a bunch of corpses came to Georgia.
            A Sakashvilli warrior and a bunch of corpses came to Georgia.
  • Apollo
    Apollo 5 February 2014 09: 14
    0
    Quote: Civil
    This is ordinary Nazism. How does this differ from how hundreds of thousands of Tutsis were cut from a massacre in Sumgait, for example, in a Hutu machete?

    Well, you zagnuli. Have managed to put Rwanda and Sumgait on the same level. And what the UN has made a special statement about Sumgait ?! Or has Russia recognized "genocide" ?!
    Then maybe we will touch upon the issue of mass slaughter of Azerbaijanis in the city of Khojaly ?!
    1. Civil
      Civil 5 February 2014 09: 38
      +4
      Quote: Apollon
      Quote: Civil
      This is ordinary Nazism. How does this differ from how hundreds of thousands of Tutsis were cut from a massacre in Sumgait, for example, in a Hutu machete?

      Well, you zagnuli. Have managed to put Rwanda and Sumgait on the same level. And what the UN has made a special statement about Sumgait ?! Or has Russia recognized "genocide" ?!
      Then maybe we will touch upon the issue of mass slaughter of Azerbaijanis in the city of Khojaly ?!

      for example from the Germans with the Jews in the gas chambers, THE PLUM ON BOTH OF YOUR HOUSES
      So I’m talking about this, the massacre in Sumgait and Khojaly is no different from
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 5 February 2014 09: 57
        -2
        Quote: Civil
        for example from the Germans with the Jews in the gas kilometers

        this is another situation.
        Quote: Civil
        PLUM ON BOTH OF YOUR HOUSES

        and here are the peoples.
        Quote: Civil
        So I say this

        maybe write and don’t speak.
        Quote: Civil
        the massacre in Sumgait and Khojaly is no different

        it was the killing of many people but not genocide. Genocide suggests massive murder.
        1. Civil
          Civil 5 February 2014 21: 34
          -3
          1. Exactly the same thing, one nationality kills another on a national basis.
          2. Did one person kill? No.
          3. Those who do not like can write to speak Latin.

          4. You are all just in the stage of decomposition of the tribal system, previously the Middle Ages.
  • xetai9977
    xetai9977 5 February 2014 09: 29
    -6
    why don’t you talk about the massacre of Azerbaijanis in Armenia? when hundreds of thousands were deported during the week and hundreds of people were tortured? Unprofitable?
  • alert_timka
    alert_timka 5 February 2014 10: 35
    +1
    Forgive me, but you are actually doing what you divide people on a national basis and thereby contradict yourself. Cross-border disputes have always been and are very complicated and exhausting. enough of the slightest provocation and it all ends in disrepair. So why, so wise and civilized were we drawn into the war of 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX? And did not find ways to extinguish it before the start of those events?
  • Babon
    Babon 5 February 2014 10: 39
    +2
    Are you a civilization specialist? Exactly the same thing about Russia is screamed by some representatives of the West, although they don’t know anything, have you been such an expert in Armenia or Azerbaijan to write about civilization?
  • Kazakh
    Kazakh 5 February 2014 11: 20
    -3
    Civilized and adequate people do not divide people by nationality
    this is especially evident in the example of Russians and Jews, a direct example of civilization laughing
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 5 February 2014 11: 42
      +1
      Quote: Kazakh
      seen on the example of Russians and Jews

      This is already at the level of a thousand-year national "fun".
      And on both sides.
      By the way, vacancies for participation are open. Kazakhs can join someone. At your discretion ...
    2. Shur
      Shur 6 February 2014 00: 12
      +1
      I practically wrote the truth, honestly, sometimes Russians are only x..n Asians and that's all ... We don't divide .. "Lights" from the USA, by the way, not long ago considered blacks animals .. In Europe, they were kept in zoos .. Did Russians notice this? We just love you so much, to the point of excessive manifestation of feelings. The nature is so wide, for this they both hate and do not understand. How many Russians were killed for others, can you find in other nations?
    3. old rocket man
      old rocket man 6 February 2014 01: 25
      +1
      Quote: Kazakh
      this is especially evident in the example of Russians and Jews, a direct example of civilization


      And for those, and for others, this is something like national entertainment.
      Note that neither one nor the other does not call for killing each other, and women are not even distinguished by ethnicity.
      Something like that fellow
  • genisis
    genisis 5 February 2014 20: 22
    +4
    Not a single Armenian died in that war by order.
    All those non-Armenians whom we remember and honor: Mirza Abaev and members of his combined "Ossetian" detachment, Zakhar Lyubchich, Dmitry Motrich, others - all of them were volunteers in that war.
    Today, the Armenians have enough potential to permanently eliminate the genocidal entity called Azerbaijan from the map of the Nuri Pasha bayonets back in 1918. And restore the natural border with the indigenous peoples of the left bank of the Kura along the banks of this river, as it always has been.
    The 102nd Russian base is located on the territory of Armenia in order to deter Anatolian Turks from excessive zeal in helping their Transcaucasian counterparts.
    That's it.
    In the event of an attack by Azerbaijan on the NKR, not a single soldier will advance from the territory of the 102nd base.
    Only if the askerians come up with the crazy idea to start working on the territory of the Republic of Armenia. Then we will see all the power of the CSTO in action.
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  • genisis
    genisis 5 February 2014 20: 14
    +3
    Third and last.
    Azerbaijanis.
    Today, the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic exists within the boundaries defined by its Constitution. These borders were conquered by the blood of 12,5 thousand Armenians.
    Nobody will give you a millimeter of land.
    You can take it - come and take it.
    You have never defeated the Armenians on the battlefield.
    Not a single time.
    There will be no Turkish options (such as one, two districts), nor any other options.
    The process of international recognition of the NKR is developing more and more actively.
    Uruguay will be the first, as with the recognition of the Armenian Genocide back in 1994.
    And the end of Azerbaijan, predicted by Vanga, is not far off.
    And those who have always lived on this earth, Lezghins, Talysh, Avars, Tsukhurs, Udins, Tats, will be freed from the yoke of the bourgeoisie and will live with the Armenians in peace and harmony, as it was for hundreds of years, before the invasion of Turkic nomadic tribes on the blessed Armenian land highlands.
    1. genisis
      genisis 5 February 2014 20: 32
      +2
      Wrong
      Uruguay recognized the Armenian Genocide in 1949
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 5 February 2014 22: 05
      -5
      Quote: genisis
      And the end of Azerbaijan, predicted by Vanga, is not far off.
      And those who have always lived on this earth, Lezghins, Talysh, Avars, Tsukhurs, Udins, Tats will be freed from the yoke of the bourgeoisie and will live with the Armenians in peace and harmony,

      Why don’t you smoke! It’s over or you don’t want to wassat laughing I told you, they’ll come out in the evening and will make their case! bully
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 5 February 2014 22: 17
        -2
        Quote: smersh70
        Why don’t you smoke! It’s over or you don’t want to

        see ended))
        Well, a typical provocateur)))) Especially killed about the Tat)) Here the poor Telman Ismailov is imprisoned in Azerbaijani yokes, which on his birthday makes Shakira dance about a song about Azerbaijan)) Strong to see the yoke))))
        Although the same Armenians will look in the face of you and prove that you have 10 eyes on your forehead and you can’t convince him of this in any way.
    3. alone
      alone 5 February 2014 22: 23
      -2
      Quote: genisis
      And the end of Azerbaijan, predicted by Vanga, is not far off.


      Go ventilate, it helps)))
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  • xetai9977
    xetai9977 5 February 2014 09: 26
    -15%
    At the expense of inadequacy .. look at yourself .... What would you say if, when half of Russia was under Hitler, the Russians would be accused of inadequacy and lapotniki ...
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  • Vova Vartanov
    Vova Vartanov 5 February 2014 14: 11
    +6
    Perhaps you are quite literate in military science (judging by the site where you made such a great "career"), but in terms of literacy in historical and geographical, I would give you ONE! This is not because your comparison of us-Armenians and our opponents-Turks with the cannibals-Papuans is not correct (you can compare almost everything with almost everything): 1st ARMENIANS NEVER HAVE AULS, 2nd WORD "NON-CIVILIZATION" CAN ONLY APPROACH PEOPLES TO those who have mastered town-planning and who do not have clear rules of the dormitory, the 3rd PAPUIS SPECIFIED BY YOU DO NOT RESPECT AS THE POWER AND THE MONEY BORN BY IT ... By the way, in Russia, I would not have met in Ulyanovsk about the same kind of Russians who work in Ulyanovsk hands to earn MONEY, respect their state (POWER) and most of all respect their ELDER RELATIVES (relatives of my daughter-in-law)!
    1. Civil
      Civil 5 February 2014 21: 41
      +1
      Russian is a great nation, I speak to you as if not Russian. But you and the Armenians and Azerbaijanis are one and the same, and your Russophobia, especially in Russia, is immediately visible. Pray to God not to be remembered.
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 5 February 2014 22: 06
        -4
        Quote: Civil
        But you and the Armenians and Azerbaijanis are one and the same, and your Russophobia, especially in Russia, is immediately visible. Pray to God not to be remembered.

        To be treated it is necessary laughing especially in cold weather
      2. Yeraz
        Yeraz 5 February 2014 22: 10
        -1
        Quote: Civil
        Pray to God not to be remembered.

        We pray, but stubbornly remember. Yes, leave 2 people, representatives of the early Middle Ages (as you put it) alone. They will kill each other. Regardless of the result, there will be less of them anyway. And this is more jobs there in their country. And they will be fewer in Russian cities.
        1. Shur
          Shur 6 February 2014 00: 22
          0
          Usually they run away from soldiers .. I think there will be more refugees and not only in Russia. I’m wondering if your countries had a nuclear status, how would they solve the problem then?
          1. smersh70
            smersh70 6 February 2014 00: 27
            -3
            Quote: Shur
            if your countries had a nuclear status, how would they solve the problem then?

            It was a pity that this weapon was in the territory of the 4th army, in 88 they would quickly have taken it away from us, otherwise they would have been used long ago wassatBy the way, India and Pakistan also have, but sometimes they fight))))
            1. Shur
              Shur 6 February 2014 00: 41
              -1
              Duck those "sometimes", but you even often.
            2. Shur
              Shur 6 February 2014 00: 45
              -1
              And so imagine how two Koreas will announce each other every day the "last" warnings and at the same time stir up the offshore company with common shares in the NK laughing
              1. smersh70
                smersh70 6 February 2014 00: 51
                -2
                Quote: Shur
                but you even frequented.

                Nah)) also sometimes)))) when the co-chairs are actively coming)))
                Quote: Shur
                with shared shares
                Shares will be after the world))) and so our oligarchs have long glanced towards Armenia, they want to invest money already))))
                1. Shur
                  Shur 6 February 2014 01: 06
                  +1
                  I just thought a "terrible" alliance .. it might work out .. In Russia, then the territory of markets and vegetable depots will start to raise flags laughing
  • genisis
    genisis 5 February 2014 20: 07
    +4
    Here are the latest actions of the "brave" Askarni.
    Armenian saboteur detained
    Azerbaijani news portal Haqqin.az, addressing the topic of captivity of an elderly citizen of Armenia.
    “It’s time for Azerbaijani news agencies to learn how to work without such mistakes. Now look at this saboteur! Both laughter and sin! What can I say? After all, there is nothing to add to these photos ... ”, the Azerbaijani website writes, deliberately putting the phrase“ Armenian saboteur ”in quotes as the material progresses.
    After two days in Azerbaijan, this poor old man has a broken arm and a huge hematoma on his face. The video can be viewed at http://haqqin.az/news/16500
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 6 February 2014 00: 33
      -4
      Quote: genisis
      Armenian saboteur detained
      So you started yelling from January 22 that the enemy is advancing. How then did he turn out to be bully and by the way caught in our territory. and what did you think you wanted to send to us in a jacket and on Merce across the front line wassat and it happens that in case of failure to put forward the legend that they are a peaceful villager. And about his outfit, maybe he should have met with flowers and treated with barbecue. Well, they gave the local a couple of kicks))) but right now he’s resting in the best clinic. treat you))) the truth you need to start treating from the head .. bully
  • uizik
    uizik 5 February 2014 22: 58
    -2
    The Caucasus respects power the most! Her darling and are afraid!
  • apollo
    apollo 8 February 2014 00: 22
    0
    << A vivid example of the inadequacy, uncivilization of two peoples. Well, the Caucasus has always said and still say, like the cannibals-Papuans, only power and money are respected. Well, probably more relatives from the aul ...

    do not rush to blame someone for not understanding something, among any nation there are civilized people and not civilized ones, it seems to me that a civilized person cannot afford to hurt other peoples
  • apollo
    apollo 8 February 2014 00: 23
    0
    << Well, probably more relatives from the aul ...

    By the way, for reference, there are no villages in Armenia, you are a civilized person ...
  • apollo
    apollo 8 February 2014 00: 57
    0
    there are no villages in Armenia, you are a civilized person
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 07: 59
    +11
    But diplomatic assistance from Russia today may come across a peculiar nuance, and, by and large, is already encountering it. The nuance is that Armenia is a full member of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO).
    What is the nuance? Armenia is a full member of the CSTO, and Nagorno-Karabakh is not recognized by anyone. This is a separate territory.


    But here all that remains is to say thank you to the CSTO for being silent ... Otherwise, a bloody scenario would be provided

    Well, how are you, Mr. Volodin ??? Who said silent belay
    “UNTIL THE AZERBAIJANI ARMY WILL CROSS THE BORDER OF ARMENIA THIS CONFLICT IS NOT THE ARMENIAN-AZERBAIJANI”
    But if at least one bomb falls on a subject of international law, this will be considered aggression. In this case, the terms of international law and the CSTO treaty already come into force.
    This is an interview of the Member of the Council under the President of the Russian Federation Alexander Sokolov for the media of Azerbaijan. In fact, Moscow is untying Aliyev’s hands on the Karabakh issue and if Aliyev is not a coward, then he will start a warrior. Http: //www.vesti.az/news/191268
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 5 February 2014 08: 13
      +3
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      What is the nuance? Armenia is a full member of the CSTO, and Nagorno-Karabakh is not recognized by anyone. This is a separate territory.
      There is some kind of additional agreement, the Armenians laid out on the site!
      1. Onizuka teacher
        Onizuka teacher 5 February 2014 08: 26
        +5
        Quote: bomg.77
        Armenians laid out

        Okay then laughing
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 5 February 2014 08: 38
          +4
          Quote: Teacher Onizuka
          Okay then
          What is clear? And why is it so meaningful? People have brought a link, who cares who?
          1. Onizuka teacher
            Onizuka teacher 5 February 2014 08: 43
            +2
            The objective of the CSTO is to protect the territorial and economic space of the countries party to the treaty by the joint efforts of the armies and auxiliary units from any external military-political aggressors, international terrorists, as well as from large-scale natural disasters. Karabakh is an unrecognized republic and the administrative-territorial division of the Republic of Azerbaijan is located on its territory. That is, this is the territory of Azerbaijan and where does the Armenians cite the link? You know, you shouldn’t trust the Armenians.
            1. baltika-18
              baltika-18 5 February 2014 08: 59
              +5
              Quote: Teacher Onizuka
              You know, you shouldn’t trust the Armenians.

              And who can?
              1. Onizuka teacher
                Onizuka teacher 5 February 2014 09: 12
                +2
                Quote: Teacher Onizuka
                Karabakh is an unrecognized republic and the administrative-territorial division of the Republic of Azerbaijan is located on its territory. That is, this is the territory of Azerbaijan
              2. IRBIS
                IRBIS 5 February 2014 15: 36
                +4
                Quote: baltika-18
                And who can?

                To daddy Muller ... Definitely!
                1. Beck
                  Beck 5 February 2014 16: 36
                  0
                  The post-war device was confirmed by the Helsinki Accords, which are recognized by the international community.

                  One of the main provisions of Helsinki is the inviolability of the post-war borders. The cause of most wars on earth was the territorial claims of one of the parties. Helsinki provided for the inviolability of national borders and the inviolability of administrative borders within multinational states - Czechoslovakia, between the Czech Republic and Slovakia. Yugoslavia, between its components. USSR, between the republics.

                  Regardless of what kind of population prevailed in a particular region.

                  Nagorno-Karabakh was part of the administrative borders of Azerbaijan. Of course there was a national problem, but it had to be solved through negotiations, agreements, mutual concessions. From the very beginning, Armenia chose the path of violating international law, the path of aggression. She occupied Nagorno-Karabakh. And already only this determined the alarming obscurity of her future. After all, Azerbaijan will not accept the loss of its territory. And sooner or later, if diplomatic efforts do not help, Azerbaijan will take practical steps to return this territory.

                  And it will be fair.
            2. domokl
              domokl 5 February 2014 12: 12
              +7
              Quote: Teacher Onizuka
              You know, you shouldn’t trust the Armenians.

              A sufficiently long stay on the site has long taught us to believe only facts, not their interpretation. In this case, you are slipping into an insult to an entire nation ...
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          3. ramin_serg
            ramin_serg 5 February 2014 09: 35
            -4
            Yes, simply by their links

            PAUL of Georgia
            PAUL of Azerbaijan
            PAK Turkey
            PAUL Iran

            IT IS TYPE Ancient Armenian lands

            I am a student of history is funny
            1. xetai9977
              xetai9977 5 February 2014 09: 50
              -1
              While Russia is playing according to double standards, that is, the struggle against separatism in the Caucasus is good, and in Nagorno-Karabakh it is bad, the conflict will smolder. By the way, it is not profitable for Russia itself — annual subsidies to Armenians cost billions of dollars annually .... However, if you have nowhere else to spend money .... crying
              1. Letterksi
                Letterksi 5 February 2014 11: 07
                +19
                I think that not much less flows to Azerbaijan through the Azerbaijani diasporas, which control a large chunk of the restaurant business in Moscow.

                And at the expense of photographs from the corpses, there were as many of them on the Armenian side.

                While Armenia and Azerbaijan were friends with Russia for real, and were on the one hand barricades, they had no conflicts. And while these countries are on opposite sides of the barricades, the war will continue. And do not blame Russia for this. Azerbaijan itself is to blame for the conflict, because at the first opportunity it immediately went over to the side of Turkey, because there it is warmer in every sense.

                What is most regrettable is not the conflict between the two countries, but the fact that Russia is forced to bear the burden of the peacekeeper in the dismantling of others. She doesn’t need it. Not very lucky with the neighbors. Russia carried this heavy cross, it seems, will have to continue to bear it. To my great regret
                1. smersh70
                  smersh70 5 February 2014 11: 15
                  -6
                  Quote: LetterKsi
                  Russia is forced to bear the burden of a peacemaker in the dismantling of others.

                  Comrade, there are no Russian peacekeepers on the front line smile and there are 2 more countries co-chairs
                  Quote: LetterKsi
                  Azerbaijan itself is to blame for the conflict, because at the first opportunity it immediately went over to the side of Turkey

                  This is when, let me tell you. And in general, what does Turkey have to do with it, you are all to blame, the EU, Ukraine, the Crimean Tatars, the USA, but not Russia.
                  They forgot how Rokhlin was removed when he brought up a nationwide discussion on the supply of secret weapons to Armenia. Read the book of the ram, you will be clear
                  1. Letterksi
                    Letterksi 5 February 2014 11: 29
                    +10
                    Well, at the expense of the Azerbaijani restaurant business, you have no arguments. Yes, and at the expense of losses among the Armenians, there is also nothing special to say. Although in this our opinions, I hope, coincided
                    1. smersh70
                      smersh70 5 February 2014 11: 47
                      -4
                      Quote: LetterKsi
                      you have no arguments about the Azerbaijani restaurant business

                      And you have something against it)) our kitchen is one of the best)) if you cooked poorly, no one would go there and everyone would be closed)))))
                      Quote: LetterKsi
                      Yes, and at the expense of losses among the Armenians, there is also nothing special to say.

                      Well, the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Armenia knows best about this. Ask them.
                    2. Ptah
                      Ptah 5 February 2014 12: 04
                      +8
                      Quote: smersh70
                      our kitchen is one of the best)) if it were poorly cooked, no one would go there and everyone would be closed)))))

                      A very pompous statement, Vurgun. In the style of the Caucasus ...
                      After all, there is such an old Azerbaijani proverb -
                      "It tastes like net color ..." laughing
                2. IRBIS
                  IRBIS 5 February 2014 15: 45
                  +1
                  Quote: smersh70
                  Forgot how Rokhlin was removed

                  He was spanked by his own wife. Why is it necessary to look for the "hidden" truth in the death of public people?
                  Quote: smersh70
                  when he introduced a nationwide discussion of supplies, with secret weapons to Armenia

                  Then they wrote recently that he was preparing a coup. That’s why it’s already worth splashing, and the rotten secrets of the arms trade are not interesting to anyone even now, not to mention the 90's.
                  1. smersh70
                    smersh70 5 February 2014 22: 12
                    -4
                    Quote: IRBIS
                    He was spanked by his own wife. Why is it necessary to look for the "hidden" truth in the death of public people?
                    Less listen to the media and fairy tales of FSK. smile as the FSB was then called.
                    And about the arms trade, Well, if it was discussed in the State Duma and the money didn’t go into your pocket or into the country's budget, then it’s not a pity for citizens like you.
                3. Veteran Vlad.
                  Veteran Vlad. 5 February 2014 19: 33
                  +1
                  Quote: smersh70
                  They forgot how Rokhlin was removed when he introduced a nationwide discussion of the supply

                  Rokhlin was removed for what he cooked Coup
              2. Corsair
                Corsair 5 February 2014 20: 52
                0
                Quote: LetterKsi
                Russia is forced to bear the burden of a peacemaker in the dismantling of others. She doesn’t need it. Not very lucky with the neighbors. Russia carried this heavy cross, it seems, will have to continue to bear it. To my great regret

                Yes, we do not need this ... But look what is happening: either the Kyrgyz and the Uzbeks are sharing something, the Georgians are arranging no limits, Ukraine is in a fever, Azerbaijanis and Armenians are staging "local battles" ... And this instability around Russia cannot not to bother anyone, from an ordinary citizen to the president. Therefore, we are deprived of the right to choose, someday we will still have to intervene in conflicts directly. And along this path, a number of mistakes are possible, striking first of all the instigators of conflicts, and ultimately us...
                But you do not leave us any alternatives with your actions, REMEMBER, SHOW Prudence! Do not slip to the point of no return ...
            2. Shur
              Shur 6 February 2014 01: 41
              +1
              Why Russia at once? It is not we who have adopted the standards by which double standards are acceptable :))) You are the one who should contact the "leading and developed democracies". Yes, subsidies in Armenians are better than Armenians for subsidies to us! laughing
          4. bomg.77
            bomg.77 5 February 2014 09: 51
            +1
            Quote: ramin_serg
            Yes, simply by their links
            If I find it lay out? What to guess
            1. ramin_serg
              ramin_serg 5 February 2014 11: 27
              -3
              What to look for in Google, type Armenia and you will see enough links and hoaxes
          5. Babon
            Babon 5 February 2014 11: 00
            +3
            Heh, I saw a video where Armenia falls short of Rostov, the representatives of Georgia were most dissatisfied, a dispute arose over whose people were ancient. But they laughed from Russia, ours said: KVN lost a valuable comedian.
      2. Apollo
        Apollo 5 February 2014 10: 00
        0
        Quote: Teacher Onizuka
        Okay then

        They hide behind the avatar of Stalin and diligently defend clearly who. I noticed not a single kind word addressed to Azerbaijan. One bile and "skillful" cover with the Russian flag.
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 5 February 2014 10: 44
          +1
          Quote: Apollon
          .I noticed not a single kind word addressed to Azerbaijan. One bile and "skillful" cover with the Russian flag.
          I only see bile from you, Before making a comment to someone, look at your Avatar, or are you Greek, maybe God? Where is my comment yesterday?
          Behind the avatar of Stalin and zealously defend clearly whom
          I know better whom to protect! I understand you would like me to sing songs, well, but I can’t
    2. Apollo
      Apollo 5 February 2014 08: 52
      +2
      Quote: bomg.77
      There

      ??
      Quote: bomg.77
      Yes

      ??
      Quote: bomg.77
      some kind

      ??
      Quote: bomg.77
      additional agreement

      ??
      Quote: bomg.77
      Armenians posted on the site

      ??
      winked
      1. bomg.77
        bomg.77 5 February 2014 09: 15
        +4
        It was necessary to make out the letters, the comment would be longer laughing Where is my comment yesterday? In the topic of rewarding is not in the know Apollo laughing
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 09: 13
      +3
      Quote: bomg.77
      There is some kind of additional agreement

      But what kind of agreement is there, if you hadn’t stopped Armenians Yeltsin and now they would have been in Baku. Any agreement in the modern world is just a piece of paper.
      1. bomg.77
        bomg.77 5 February 2014 09: 28
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        But what kind of agreement is there, if you hadn’t stopped Armenians Yeltsin and now they would have been in Baku. Any agreement in the modern world is just a piece of paper.
        This is yes. The Armenians almost took Baku. wassat Yeltsin stopped them.
        1. ramin_serg
          ramin_serg 5 February 2014 11: 29
          -4
          Look on the Internet in 1994, Azerbaijan conducted successful offensive operations and Yeltsin stopped us
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 11: 39
            +4
            Quote: ramin_serg
            Browse the Internet in 1994

            Yes, I watched this show on TV in 1994. Now Russia directly says that there will be no meeting in the warrior of Azerbaijan-Karabakh, that then you’ll point out. Go back.
          2. Artmark
            Artmark 5 February 2014 12: 52
            +1
            This is supposedly stop us, otherwise we will capture the whole of Armenia?
        2. Shur
          Shur 6 February 2014 01: 50
          +1
          It would be better if he stopped the massacre in Chechnya ..
      2. Apollo
        Apollo 5 February 2014 09: 43
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        But what kind of agreement is there, if you hadn’t stopped Armenians Yeltsin and now they would have been in Baku

        Sasha.the small ticket is for those who wanted to capture Baku. My city is an unsinkable aircraft carrier. How do you imagine the capture of the 3-x millionth city. This is the first.
        Second, assistants told the EBF the following information that in case of further escalation of the conflict, literally, the Azerbaijanis of Iran and Turkey will cross the border with Armenia. I think there is no need to further describe the situation laughing
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 09: 51
          +6
          Quote: Apollon
          .How do you imagine the capture of a 3 millionth city? This is the first

          Apollo, history knows many examples when cities give up. If the army is defeated and the command rescues its skins, any fortress will fall.
          Quote: Apollon
          that in case of further escalation of the conflict, literally, the Azerbaijanis of Iran and Turkey will cross the border with Armenia

          We would like to go over, but knowing that Russia was on the side of Armenia, they simply yelled. And then, I can’t imagine that Iran allowed it.
          1. Apollo
            Apollo 5 February 2014 10: 09
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            history knows many examples when cities give up
            I agree history knows, but now is not the time.
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            If the army is defeated, and the command rescues its skins, then any fortress will fall.

            The army can be defeated but the people cannot be broken.
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Would like to cross

            Therefore, Yeltsin turned to the heads of both states with a proposal for a ceasefire. By the way, not only Yeltsin, Nursulstan Abishevich and Alexander Lukashenko personally intervened, I am silent about Kyrgyzstan for nothing, it was in Bishkek that the ceasefire protocol was signed.
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And then, I can’t imagine that Iran allowed this.

            Nobody would have reckoned with the leadership. Ayatollah is Azerbaijani, brigadier generals too ........ in my opinion is enough. I am silent about suicide fanatics.
            We will wait for the record for the number of comments. laughing
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 10: 49
              +5
              Quote: Apollon
              I agree history knows, but now is not the time.

              Who cares, betrayal exists and now.
              Quote: Apollon
              The army can be defeated but the people cannot be broken.

              And what can the people do, partisan through the forests.
              Quote: Apollon
              Ayatollah is Azerbaijani, brigadier generals too ..

              And so, why then are they you, but you can’t stand them?
            2. Ptah
              Ptah 5 February 2014 11: 51
              +2
              Quote: Apollon
              We will wait for the record for the number of comments.

              It would certainly have taken place if the topic had been posted on the weekend, and so, hardly ...
              In general, I propose abruptly switching to Amers or Jews.
              Firstly, the topic will unite everyone at once, and secondly, the Americans will not mind the "incitement", but the Jews will scream ... And the article will be removed ...
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 12: 00
                +3
                Quote: Ptah
                In general, I propose abruptly switching to Amers or Jews.

                Americans in a different topic, and Jews everywhere laughing
                Quote: Ptah
                . And the article will be removed ..

                How to remove, I choblin in vain pounded on the clave. Let it be angry
                1. Ptah
                  Ptah 5 February 2014 12: 33
                  +1
                  Then immediately replace (in the text) Armenians with Jews, and Azerbaijanis with Pales. Tomorrow all the world media will talk about the "Arab-Israeli" conflict, using quotes from VO.
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  I was vainly tapping the clave on the clave.

                  Don't be shy, Sash. And don't belittle your dignity. You are the recognized "tormentor of Klava" in the "knocking" nomination.
                  I, I confess, sometimes think that you use some kind of "dictation" thread, like "Gorynych 6.0 ...". Or not? laughing
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 13: 38
                    +1
                    Quote: Ptah
                    ... Tomorrow all the world media will talk about the "Arab-Israeli" conflict,

                    Sait will become the most popular not only in Russia, but also in the world good
                    Quote: Ptah
                    that you use some kind of "dictation" thread, like "Gorynych 6.0 ...". Or not?

                    Yes repeat
        2. lukke
          lukke 5 February 2014 10: 29
          +8
          Second, assistants told the EBF the following information that in case of further escalation of the conflict, literally, the Azerbaijanis of Iran and Turkey will cross the border with Armenia. I think we should not further describe the situation laughing
          History does not tolerate the subjunctive "if only". I don’t want to speak for the nations. I will say for the steps taken by politicians. Graduating from the military academy in the late 90s, students from Armenia began to actively come to study under the Treaty. Their peers from Azerbaijan at that time actively traded in the markets. Therefore, doubts arise about the combat effectiveness of the AZ Army at that moment. Purely my subjective observation.
          1. smersh70
            smersh70 5 February 2014 10: 53
            0
            Quote: lukke
            Therefore, doubts arise about the combat effectiveness of the AZ Army at that moment. Purely my subjective observation.

            Rectifications. They planned this for a long time. Nichofitsers from the USSR Armed Forces had a lot more, organized actions, and we had time to go to power. About times, times, a good thing, Over 20 years, believe me everything has changed. The officers have completely formed, the quality of the army has changed. For 94 years there have been several major clashes, including the use of artillery and tanks. I participated in one of them. and everywhere the Armenians got their teeth. Therefore, they abandoned major provocations. Sargsyan himself recently noted that the enemy is not the one who was 93
            1. lukke
              lukke 5 February 2014 11: 05
              +4
              In any case, I would like to wish to solve this problem independently on both sides without the use of armed forces and bloodshed!
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          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz 5 February 2014 22: 13
            +2
            Quote: Radoslav
            And how dare you Russian to me, to make a comment on the Russian site and engage in censorship, dictate to me what to write and how to think

            because the comments are not written on the basis of nationality. because of the moderators, we are writing here in strictly limited frames and we don’t have a hey Apollo, you ban your countrymen, how ugly.
            There are site rules, sit and read. I do not like to leave this site. Thanks a lot of choice.
      3. tulpar
        tulpar 5 February 2014 10: 39
        -5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        they were in Baku

        often watch gum club and house 2 on TNT wassat
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 11: 41
          +4
          Quote: tulpar
          often watch gum club and house 2 on TNT

          No, I don’t look, but do you know what impresses me the most? Is a chatter about the fact that Karabakh will be ours, we are strong. Only there is no answer to the answer, and that you do not return.
          1. smersh70
            smersh70 5 February 2014 11: 52
            -3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Karabakh will be ours, we are strong. Only for the answer, and that you do not return, there is no answer.

            as the Russian proverb says, chickens in the fall believe)))))
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 11: 59
              +2
              Quote: smersh70
              as the Russian proverb says, chickens in the fall believe)))))

              Look at your lowest koment, I’ve left a question for you about chickens there wink
          2. Ptah
            Ptah 5 February 2014 12: 16
            +2
            We need to put someone on them. Immediately on both countries - then they either unite or self-destruct (as they say in "decent society" - integrate).
            Ideally, of course, Turechchin is suitable for the role of the villains, but there is a danger that they will cooperate with the Azerbaijanis, then the Armenians of Kirdyk.

            Remember how we said in childhood -
            "Chik-chirik, Pi ** yk-kuku
            You can't see Baku now ... "
            laughing
      4. Arminian power
        Arminian power 5 February 2014 23: 20
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        , do not stop the Armenians Yeltsin and now they would be sitting in Baku.

        hi
    4. kotdavin4i
      kotdavin4i 5 February 2014 09: 45
      +3
      Quote: bomg.77
      There is some kind of additional agreement

      Aleksey, there can be no agreement in principle, because the Republic of Armenia itself has not officially recognized Nagorno-Karabakh - as an independent republic! Hence the conclusion Nagorno-Karabakh is the territory of the Republic of Azerbaijan!
      1. xetai9977
        xetai9977 5 February 2014 09: 56
        -1
        Wow, "Yeltsin stopped the Armenians, otherwise they would have taken Baku ..". The course of the war changed after March-April 1994 near Tartar, when the Armenians put a thousand, but could not take the regional center.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 10: 52
          +7
          Quote: xetai9977
          The course of the war changed after March-April 1994 near Terter, when the Armenians laid down a thousand, but could not take the district center.

          Yeah, it’s normal that half of the territory of Azerbaijan Armenians went through a turning point. Just say thank you to drunk Yeltsin laughing
      2. bomg.77
        bomg.77 5 February 2014 10: 27
        +3
        Quote: kotdavin4i
        Have a nice day, Alex
        Welcome hiSan Sanych. In short, there is an agreement on the protection of not only the territory, but also the citizens of Armenia, but I can’t presume to approve it.
    5. smersh70
      smersh70 5 February 2014 10: 43
      -1
      Quote: bomg.77
      , Armenians laid out on the site!

      they don’t lay out tonight bully until they give light)))))))))
      1. bomg.77
        bomg.77 5 February 2014 10: 56
        +2
        Quote: smersh70
        they don’t lay out tonight until they give light))))))))
        laughing
      2. Saboteur
        Saboteur 5 February 2014 11: 21
        +8
        Yes, they are starving there and dying of thirst. If my memory serves me right without light and during the blockade, some people were very painful in some place.
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 5 February 2014 11: 55
          -4
          Quote: Saboteur
          If my memory serves me right without light and during the blockade, some people were very painful in some place.

          not without your participation wassat step aside for a month, then we’ll see who will hurt someone))))))) let the men come face to face, there is nothing to hide behind the Russian troops and talk about an invincible army, when there is nothing to put a solbat in the trenches. Maybe you can put a recent video, how the squads surrender.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 12: 03
            +8
            Quote: smersh70
            step aside for a month, then we'll see who will hurt anyone))

            Vurgun, what are you kidding ??? We stepped aside - Russia openly stated that it WOULD NOT meet in a warrior of Karabakh and Azerbaijan !!!! Why should we crawl into Siberia, so that Aliev would have the courage?
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 5 February 2014 12: 28
              -2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Vurgun, what are you kidding ??? We stepped aside-Russia in plain text

              laughing and the interview with the commander of the Russian base Razumovsky) he is a military man. I put everything on the spirit)))))))))) until he was reasoned that orders are one thing and interviews are another thing, you can’t say so openly))))) ) Well, he’s a military man, straightforward))) Well, you know about his interview with the Red Star)))
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 12: 45
                +3
                Quote: smersh70
                and an interview with the commander of the Russian base Razumovsky) he is a military man. I put everything on the spirit))

                He is a soldier and will follow the orders of politicians! And the policy is such that Russia will not be alarmed.
                Quote: smersh70
                Well, you know about his interview with the Red Star)

                Interview with Vesti.Az, member of the Presidential Council for Interethnic Relations, head of the Inter-Commission Group of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation for International Cooperation and Public Diplomacy, President of the Fund for the Promotion of International Cooperation, Alexander Sokolov.
                Then they openly tell you -Go and take your carb! What else is needed? That Russia does not, now what is stopping ????
                1. smersh70
                  smersh70 5 February 2014 13: 04
                  -3
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  A resident of the Foundation for the Promotion of International Cooperation, Alexander Sokolov.

                  ... who he is, sitting in his warm office, a political scientist and all. He doesn’t command a parade, but Razumovsky)) But I, as an officer, still need to believe the words of an officer, not a politician bully
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 13: 41
                    +3
                    Quote: smersh70
                    . He doesn’t command a parade, but Razumovsky)

                    I thought Putin laughing
                    Quote: smersh70
                    But I, as an officer, still need to believe the words of an officer, not a politician

                    Well, as I understand it, now you are trying to justify the inaction of your politicians. But what’s the point, the people will soon realize that Russia is not sticking. What will you write here then?
                  2. smersh70
                    smersh70 5 February 2014 13: 58
                    -2
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    I thought Putin

                    Well of course laughing I meant the statements of 2 opposite people
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    But the point is, people will soon realize that Russia is not sticking.

                    You come to us and ask, Everyone says, if it weren’t for Russia's support for Armenia, then long ago, one way or another, they would solve the problem))
                    I understand that you, as a patriot of Russia, are defending the country from our accusations, so to speak. But understand, during the service you came across such information that you willy-nilly think what the politicians say is one thing, and what the military do is completely different. hand and the finger of Russia in NKAO winked smile
          2. IRBIS
            IRBIS 5 February 2014 16: 04
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Why should we crawl into Siberia, so that Aliev would have the courage?

            belay Sanya, don’t go to Siberia, it’s cold there now !!! Maybe we’ll temporarily move to the Canaries, eh? repeat
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 16: 47
              +2
              Quote: IRBIS
              Maybe we’ll temporarily move to the Canaries, eh?

              It will not help, they will say all one thing that this does not guarantee that the Russians will not return and do not pile on Aliyev.
              Look at what we’ll tear on the site, let’s return, we’ll beat it off ... and so from the moment the site was opened. They will write in 10 years, Karabakh will be ours laughing
              Hi Sanya.
      3. Artmark
        Artmark 5 February 2014 12: 59
        +2
        Dear for what to remind, all exactly this was not wink
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    7. Artmark
      Artmark 5 February 2014 12: 58
      +1
      probably you are very funny from the current sharp humor,!?
  • Apollo
    Apollo 5 February 2014 08: 54
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    In fact, Moscow is untying Aliyev’s hands on the Karabakh issue, and if Aliyev is not a coward, he will start a warrior. Http://www.vesti.az/news/191268


    Well, you need a link to the Azerbaijan site. Now you will be accused (of course who) of referring to the Azerbaijan "Agitprom" laughing
    Hello Alexander hi
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 09: 16
      +4
      Quote: Apollon
      Well, you need a link to the Azerbaijan site

      Hi Apollo! And what's the difference, there our politician gives an interview. What he said he said, nothing personal hi
      Head after yesterday, you do not bobo laughing
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 5 February 2014 09: 19
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And what's the difference, there our politician gives an interview

        That's it, the main thing is where! laughing
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Head after yesterday, you do not bobo

        I am always ready for work and defense soldier laughing
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 09: 32
          +6
          Quote: Apollon
          I am always ready for work and defense

          Clearly, the wife means to you yesterday angry here you are now ..... wassat
          1. Apollo
            Apollo 5 February 2014 09: 46
            +6
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            It’s clear that the wife means to you yesterday, here you are now and ..

            A military secret. crying
  • ramin_serg
    ramin_serg 5 February 2014 09: 32
    0
    And the fact that this "subject of international law" is shelling and bombing the Azerbaijani territories, which are also a SUBJECT OF INTERNATIONAL LAW, do you not see? IT IS NOT ADVANTAGEOUS TO SEE HOW I LOOK
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 09: 54
      +6
      Quote: ramin_serg
      And the fact that this "subject of international law" is shelling and bombing Azerbaijani territories

      Are you being fired from Armenia or from Karabakh?
      Quote: ramin_serg
      It is not profitable to see how I look

      Yes, I’m on the drum at all, you will be able to return daring, you will not be able to - Aliyev is guilty hi
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 5 February 2014 10: 16
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Are you being fired from Armenia or from Karabakh?

        True, but accordingly they receive change in full.
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Yes, I’m on the drum at all, you will be able to return daring, you will not be able to - Aliyev is guilty

        You have other interests with geopolitics, you are not friends, my friend. laughing
      2. ramin_serg
        ramin_serg 5 February 2014 10: 25
        -4
        Are you being fired from Armenia or from Karabakh?


        It is clearly seen that you, without knowing the ford, climb into the water.
        Recent incidents on the front line were on the border of Armenia and Azerbaijan
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 10: 54
          +6
          Quote: ramin_serg
          Recent incidents on the front line were on the border of Armenia and Azerbaijan

          Yeah, one video from the borders Apollo threw me, the shootout was from the teachings of the Russian military wassat
          1. Apollo
            Apollo 5 February 2014 12: 10
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yeah, one video from the borders Apollo threw me, the shootout was from the teachings of the Russian military

            Sasha ............... the third day in a row you bow my nickname with the ill-fated video, do mercy, well, sue me then. laughing
            1. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 5 February 2014 18: 33
              +2
              Quote: Apollon
              do mercy, then sue me then.

              A good idea what And I will judge am That's just my dolbyozatel beech fix on which he himself caught the virus and ... wassat
          2. smersh70
            smersh70 5 February 2014 12: 30
            -2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yeah, one video from the borders Apollo threw me

            Alexander, so I put you the answer to this video the day before yesterday, ours put it on 24, and the Armenian did it first, it specifically shows January 23 and the inscriptions in Armenian)))) lay out again or take a word))))
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 12: 46
              +1
              Quote: smersh70

              Alexander, so I put you the answer to this video the day before yesterday, ours put it on 24, and the first did it the Armenian, it specifically shows January 23 and inscriptions in Armenian)

              Yes, I saw, but here all is one disinformation and it doesn’t matter on whose side. I do not welcome lies.
  • alone
    alone 5 February 2014 19: 55
    -2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    . This is a separate area.


    This is not a separate territory. This is the territory of Azerbaijan. In similar situations, Chechnya is the territory of Russia. Would you like it here if someone wrote that Chechnya is a separate territory?
  • old rocket man
    old rocket man 6 February 2014 01: 36
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    In fact, Moscow is untying its hands on Aliyev on the Karabakh issue, and if Aliyev is not a coward, then he will start a warrior. Http: //www.vesti.az


    Of course, he might suddenly become bolder, but he is unlikely to become stupid. So, no war is expected in the near future.
  • predator.3
    predator.3 5 February 2014 12: 04
    +3
    Quote: bomg.77
    Also ready for the Olympics, I’ll look. There are no other options for 20 years, no solutions have been found ((

    All this catastrophe in Karabakh began in the 88th, just before the demobilization, our Armenians and Azerbaijanis immediately began to look suspiciously at each other, but they didn’t get to a showdown in the regiment, they’ve been sitting in the trenches for a quarter of a century, there’s a quiet positional the war, something like the medieval Hundred Years War, still cannot share these mountain ranges!
    1. domokl
      domokl 5 February 2014 12: 30
      +6
      I read your comments here. It seems people are not stupid, but for the most part you are talking such nonsense. What to understand who is right and who is to blame? Why pit states now? There is an excellent solution to the issue. Simple and peaceful. Armenians want to live in Karabakh — let them live. Azerbaijanis want to live in Karabakh — let them live. Others want to live in Karabakh — let them live.
      And for this, you just need to recognize the right of the people whose ancestors lie in these lands, the people who were born there and die, but don’t leave, to create their own, albeit small, state. Not parts of Armenia, not parts of Azerbaijan, but simply Nagorno-Karabakh .People will figure out how to live.
  • tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 5 February 2014 13: 36
    +4
    They’ve been preparing for about 20 years, over the past year and a half they have bought toys for more than all 20 years, it’s evident that it is time to try these toys in practice, it’s a pity that many young people are likely to have to pay for these games with their lives.
  • genisis
    genisis 5 February 2014 20: 04
    +2
    Dear Alexey Volodin.
    Your material was written on the basis of an article in a Turkish newspaper, and it is false from beginning to end.

    Here is the comment of the head of the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Armenia Artsrun Hovhannisyan.

    “It makes no sense to say that the Armenian army is closely monitoring all military movements on the territory of Azerbaijan, from the coast of the Caspian Sea to the borders with Armenian states. There are no accumulations of enemy armored vehicles at the borders, as well as no flights. We can only talk about reconnaissance and sabotage groups of the enemy, several of which suffered serious losses on the night of January 20. Nevertheless, I consider it necessary to state that if Azerbaijan really tries to create an armored fist on the border with the NKR or the Republic of Armenia, or large military formations, then the Armenian Army has enough forces and means to take preventive adequate measures to eliminate the threat to the territorial integrity of the Armenian states. "

    In turn, I think that the works "on a free theme" of the Baku media aim to reorient the problems of the population of Azerbaijan from internal to external. Baku’s propaganda strategists need to find reasons to extract at least six saboteurs destroyed by Armenian soldiers from the refrigerators of the Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense, destroyed on the night of January 20.
  • domokl
    domokl 5 February 2014 07: 13
    +12
    I found a scythe on a stone ... And not only there, but also in Russia. I have quite a lot of friends and Armenians and Azeobai people ... They are wonderful people, kind, business, working ... But as soon as they see someone (how mountain eagles, I don’t see, but they already speak out ...) of someone of another nationality, they change right away ... Hatred in the eyes, anger in the words. Well, at least they don’t run to fight ...
    An old conflict has already led to hatred of peoples towards each other ... And we need a strong personality to step on the throat of our own ambitions and one and the other side and agree to live peacefully.
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 5 February 2014 11: 01
      -6
      Quote: domokl
      And need a strong personality

      what Putin costs to put the aggressor in its place, as he recently put Armenia when he threatened tanks near Yerevan. So when he needs it, he does. And in this case he does not need to settle the conflict .. That's all.
      1. domokl
        domokl 5 February 2014 11: 47
        +3
        Quote: smersh70

        what costs Putin to put the aggressor in place,

        It remains to find out who the aggressor is ... Who will tell the truth? You or they? Each side has its own truth and people are ready to die for this truth. I talked with the Armenians from this area. They all participated in these shootings. So they grew up together, They played football together, went to visit each other .. and then others came .., skirmishes began. And now all the enemies.
        If Russia gets involved in this conflict now, it is fraught with the emergence of yet another Syria or Iraq .. Do you need it?
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 5 February 2014 12: 02
          -4
          Quote: domokl
          Who will tell the truth? You or them?

          Well, given that Azerbaijan was part of the UN within the borders of the Union Republic, that Russia also voted for it, that all states of the world, the OSCE, and the UN recognized its territorial integrity, that there are 1 million refugee citizens on its territory, it’s clear who the aggressor is, and who is the victim.
    2. Artmark
      Artmark 5 February 2014 13: 08
      0
      Totally agree!
  • Onizuka teacher
    Onizuka teacher 5 February 2014 07: 15
    0
    CSTO will stand up for the Armenians if the Azerbaijani armed forces invade its territory. And since Nagorno-Karabakh, whatever one may say, is the territory of Azerbaijan and its people, even if the Azerbaijani Armed Forces returns their land, the CSTO will do nothing, it’s not the territory of the Armenians, plus Russia will not enter into the Karabakh conflict because there will already be double standards. And judging by the rate of armament of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces, the war is now needed precisely by Armenia, because in 5 years the advantage of Azerbaijan will be enormous.
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 5 February 2014 08: 26
      -2
      Quote: Onizuka's teacher
      CSTO will stand up for the Armenians if the Azerbaijani armed forces invade its territory. And since Nagorno-Karabakh, whatever one may say, is the territory of Azerbaijan and its people, even if the Azerbaijani Armed Forces returns their land, the CSTO will do nothing, it’s not the territory of the Armenians plus and Russia will not intervene in the Karabakh conflict for there will already be double standards. And judging by the rate of armament of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces, the war is now needed precisely by Armenia, because in 5 years the advantage of Azerbaijan will be enormous.

      This is you wise guy, Putin reported in person?
      1. Onizuka teacher
        Onizuka teacher 5 February 2014 08: 38
        +6
        Quote: ed65b
        This is you wise guy, Putin reported in person?

        No, this is the usual logic of a healthy person. Only the territory of Armenia and the point will protect. And Karabakh, if you please, sir is the territory of Azerbaijan. What happens if the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation join the Armed Forces of Armenia for the territory belonging to another state? All CSTO members will be in shock. After all, you returned Chechnya to yourself, then why Azerbaijan cannot regain its territory to itself? The administrative-territorial division of the Republic of Azerbaijan Karabakh is located on its territory. Questions?
        1. ed65b
          ed65b 5 February 2014 09: 10
          +2
          Question one, how to return? With a power scenario is not an option. By and large, Russia does not give a damn about the CSTO, the structure is amorphous and more political than military as well as NATO.
        2. Artmark
          Artmark 5 February 2014 16: 05
          0
          this is the common logic of the provocateur))) hi
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  • Tatarus
    Tatarus 5 February 2014 07: 23
    +7
    Ukraine under the Olympiad, Karabakh under the Olympiad. However, the memorable Olympics seem to come out.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 08: 01
      +8
      Quote: Tatarus
      However, the memorable Olympics seem to come out.

      Yeah, the whole world will cheer for its athletes sitting in front of TVs in helmets and body armor laughing
      1. Ptah
        Ptah 5 February 2014 09: 07
        +4
        Greetings, Sasha!
        sitting in front of televisions in helmets and body armor

        Why "sit"? As far as I remember, you yourself were going to drive to the competition ...

        As already said not only I, but people more versed in geopolitics "The mistake is not in the conduct of the Olympics itself, but in the place of its holding." Nothing stood in the way of rebuilding the infrastructure somewhere in the DEPTH OF RUSSIA. For example, in the Urals. Where any "overly curious fleets and armies" would find it more problematic to get ...
        1. ed65b
          ed65b 5 February 2014 09: 12
          +2
          Quote: Ptah
          For example, in the Urals.

          I’m not like a Siberian east of the Urals. Novosibirsk, for example, the wonderful area of ​​Barnaul with the Altai Republic, Irkutsk.
          1. Ptah
            Ptah 5 February 2014 09: 24
            +4
            Quote: ed65b
            Beautiful Barnaul district with the Altai Republic, Irkutsk.

            I'm not against. There are already two of us drinks
            And since wait for the next sooooo long, then apply to the IOC for the "Autumn", "Spring", "Interseason", etc. laughing
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 09: 37
            +4
            Quote: ed65b
            Beautiful Barnaul district with the Altai Republic, Irkutsk.

            You already have the World Cup hockey. Yes, and the team also participated (oh God, with what trepidation I type the name of this country) SOMALIA wassat wassat wassat
            So the Far East, Khabarovsk or Vladivostok wink
            1. Ptah
              Ptah 5 February 2014 11: 58
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              So the Far East, Khabarovsk or Vladivostok

              It will not work. Lobbying the interests of residents of the Far East and discrimination against residents of the western regions on the basis of material characteristics. Then the Kaliningraders will have no money to travel. Only "in the middle". In the geographical center of Russia. Approximately on the banks of the Lower Tunguska.
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              You already have the World Cup ball hockey.

              Do not envy, Sasha ...
              Spend the FOOTBALL Galaxy Puck Championship ... yes
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 09: 34
          +3
          Quote: Ptah
          You, like, as far as I remember, you were going to drive yourself to competitions ..

          Hello! Do not believe me, NO money crying
          Quote: Ptah
          somewhere in the DEPTH OF RUSSIA. For example, in the Urals.

          Yesterday I offered in the Far East and, by the way, my offer on the site received support winked
    2. Apollo
      Apollo 5 February 2014 12: 15
      0
      AZERBAIJAN PROMISES FOR OLYMPIC GOLD RECORD REWARD ABOUT WHICH DO NOT DREAM EVEN US laughing
      The proposed amounts differ significantly from the awards of the richer Western countries.

      Athletes participating in the Sochi Winter Olympics can receive tens of thousands and even hundreds of thousands of dollars if they bring home gold medals. True, the highest cash bonuses are offered in countries that are unlikely to win any medals in Sochi, since they are not strong in winter sports, such as skiing or curling.
      ....................
      The largest cash prizes are offered in Azerbaijan. If one of the athletes wins a gold medal, he will receive almost 510 thousand dollars, 255 thousand dollars for silver and 130 thousand dollars for bronze.

      In Armenia, they promise 30 thousand dollars for a gold medal, 20 thousand dollars for a silver medal and 10 thousand dollars for a bronze medal laughing
      http://www.vesti.az/news/191459#ad

      10 cost of Wrangler jeeps. belay
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 12: 49
        0
        Quote: Apollon
        the cost of 10 jeeps Wrangler

        Do you know why he wrote Wrangler laughing
  • makarov
    makarov 5 February 2014 07: 50
    +3
    Everything is very, very bad, and running. If now, the leaders of the CIS countries will not intervene in the situation, be a Big Trouble !!!
  • Yeraz
    Yeraz 5 February 2014 07: 52
    +4
    There will be no war, and no need for it, as long as Russia is completely on the side of the Armenians. Last year we signed a gas agreement and billions of investments are already coming in. We should continue to engage in the development and strangulation of Armenia, although Russia’s subsidies would have been long gone. .
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 5 February 2014 08: 33
      +2
      Quote: Yeraz
      , although they would have long been gone if Russian subsidies weren’t.

      Useless pursuits will live on. here as in the cartoon "the patient is more alive than dead". well, analogies with Leningrad.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 09: 20
      +6
      Quote: Yeraz
      There will be no war, and it is not needed, as long as Russia is completely on the side of the Armenians.

      I posted the link above, if you read it, you’ll understand that they give you carte blanche for Karabakh. Russia will not intervene in the conflict, but you will start figuring across the territory of Armenia, then .... a warrior.
      In short, if you manage to return Karabakh without affecting the territory of Armenia, the winners are not judged. If you fail, you are to blame hi
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 5 February 2014 09: 22
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        In short, if you manage to return Karabakh without affecting the territory of Armenia, the winners are not judged. If you fail, you are to blame

        Remembered "our" one fool fool , by the way, the "people's" deputy, who offered to reach Yerevan. laughing
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 09: 38
          +3
          Quote: Apollon
          who suggested reaching Yerevan.

          But if only with raised hands laughing
        2. ramin_serg
          ramin_serg 5 February 2014 09: 44
          +2
          I agree such as Zhirenovsky Everywhere you can find
          1. old rocket man
            old rocket man 6 February 2014 01: 56
            +1
            Quote: ramin_serg
            I agree such as Zhirenovsky Everywhere you can find


            I do not agree, such as he still need to search. But he (Fatиnovskiy) will be smarter than your many wassat
      2. Yeraz
        Yeraz 5 February 2014 12: 41
        -2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        .Russia will not intervene in the conflict, but you will start figuring across the territory of Armenia, then .... a warrior.

        They won’t start, but Russia will intervene anyway. Under the current circumstances, Russia is not profitable to win Baku, therefore it supports it.
        And saying intervention is not necessarily an invasion of Russian troops, there are a bunch of other effective ways to intervene to change the course of hostilities.
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      4. tulpar
        tulpar 5 February 2014 13: 19
        -4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Russia will not intervene in the conflict


        Alexander - weren't you here who furiously convinced us and not only you, but also your Armenian colleagues in numerous discussions up to the end of 2013 that Russia will intervene in the conflict in Karabakh anyway and Russian soldiers will participate in clashes in Karabakh, that even you were ready to take a bullet protecting their Armenian brothers wassat but now it’s as if you were replaced in a month, what happened to you? wassat tell) is it really an interview of some secondary political scientists or politicians wassat
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 13: 54
          +2
          Quote: tulpar
          Alexander - weren't you here who furiously convinced us, and not only you, but also your Armenian colleagues in numerous discussions until the end of 2013, that Russia would interfere in the conflict in Karabakh anyway?

          Yes, it’s me! And if you remember, I relied on the position of the Russian authorities. Now the position has changed, why should I not say what the politicians say. They will say that they will shake it, I will write it like this. I do not take it all from my own imagination.
          Quote: tulpar
          that even you were ready to get a bullet protecting your Armenian brothers

          But this is already a lie, I do not suffer from such "heroism" laughing
          Quote: tulpar
          ) is it really an interview of some secondary political scientists or politicians

          I posted a link, read hi
  • vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 5 February 2014 08: 16
    +3
    It is interesting, maybe someone believes that in the event of hostilities, Azerbaijan will regain Karabakh, that’s all and stop. Maybe I don’t understand anything in life, I’m only sure that it’s not. The situation is so tense that the capture of Karabakh is only the beginning. Because it is necessary to completely destroy the entire Armenian population of Karabakh, and this is a guerrilla war, in the mountains it is easier than in the steppe, especially since there will certainly be support from Armenia. In this case, Azerbaijan will simply need to destroy Armenia, or at least weaken it. How to do all this in practice? The peoples are one thing, but politicians can solve any conflict in the world, but this requires a mind, intelligence, which in our time is becoming increasingly rare. So it turns out that it’s easier to start a war, diverting the attention of the people from problems in the economy. Problems for the solution of which elementary lack of mind.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 5 February 2014 08: 48
      +7
      Good morning to everyone, including you, Alexey. hi

      quote-According to preliminary information, about four dozen people died, most of them military personnel of the Nagorno-Karabakh defense army (as these units are called in Armenia and the NKR), several dozen more were injured. This is reported by the Turkish edition of "Yeni Safak". According to several western news agencies, to the places of the most acute conflict even armored vehicles.

      And not only armored vehicles but even military aircraft of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces fly over the front line.

      Alex would be great, believe me:

      1. If you would outline, in this article sources of financing the budget of the so-called NKR.
      2. The so-called NKR is not recognized by any state in the world, including Armenia. Even such international organizations as ICAO
      ICAO - International Civil Aviation Organization) is a UN specialized agency that sets international standards for civil aviation and coordinates its development in order to increase safety and efficiency; they do not recognize ephemeral education.
      3. The presence of the state implies a national monetary unit is one of the attributes. Where is this monetary unit ?!
      4. Azerbaijan has never roared in the territory of neighboring states. But under no circumstances will it never reconcile itself to the loss of at least part of its territory.
      5. At the entry of Azerbaijan and Armenia into the UN, both states were adopted within the administrative borders between the entities, namely the borders of the former USSR. Why doesn’t anyone pay attention to such an important fact.
      6. When someone offers to reconcile to Azerbaijan, with the existing status of the CWO, let it openly declare the following.Is the state that he represents ready to give in to a fraction of the territory of his country ?!
      Thank you all for your attention. hi
      1. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 5 February 2014 08: 59
        0
        Quote: Apollon
        .When Azerbaijan and Armenia joined the UN, both states were adopted within the administrative borders between the entities, namely, within the borders of the former USSR. Why doesn’t anyone pay attention to such an important fact.
        6. When someone suggests reconciling to Azerbaijan, with the existing status of the CWO, let him openly declare the following. Is the state that he represents ready to give in to a fraction of the territory of his country ?!
        Thank you all for your attention.

        The question is not how the official borders go, it’s just political rhetoric, the question is what will happen if the Azerbaijani army regains the lost territory. And here rhetoric will end, and practice proves that the purges will inevitably begin, and the Armenian genocide. Let us now reason from the point of view of human common sense. What should politicians do? by any means and methods to return the territory, but without the Armenians. Or all the same, put a little mind and create the conditions for solving the problem without blood. Yes, I agree, such a decision will not be as quick as a war. But here we come back to what I wrote a little earlier, for the war there is only one reason, the inability of the authorities to solve internal economic reasons. All the excuses for war, false, hypocritical babble.
        1. kotdavin4i
          kotdavin4i 5 February 2014 09: 52
          0
          Quote: vladsolo56
          and practice proves that purges will inevitably begin, and the Armenian genocide.

          Cheerful morning Vladimir, only 30 thousand people of Armenian ethnicity live in Baku (one of the parents was an Armenian, grandfather, grandmother) This is all well known and for some reason no one has touched anyone for more than 20 years after the collapse of the USSR. What the KGB arranged in 1990 will not happen again!
          1. vladsolo56
            vladsolo56 5 February 2014 10: 49
            +1
            Quote: kotdavin4i
            Cheerful morning Vladimir, only 30 thousand people of Armenian ethnicity live in Baku (one of the parents was an Armenian, grandfather, grandmother) This is all well known and for some reason no one has touched anyone for more than 20 years after the collapse of the USSR. What the KGB arranged in 1990 will not happen again!

            Well, the USSR is to blame for everything, and the damned KGB. However, this is still a story. But as I understand it, you undertake to assert that there will be no genocide, that after the return of Karabakh the Armenians will be equal inhabitants, without infringement? you are either a naive or a provocateur one of two things.
    2. ramin_serg
      ramin_serg 5 February 2014 09: 46
      0
      I do not agree who will not cut the peoples is not no one does not need.
      / And about Armenians living in Azerbaijan, more than 35000 Armenians do not cut them
      1. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 5 February 2014 10: 59
        +1
        Quote: ramin_serg
        I do not agree who will not cut the peoples is not no one does not need.
        / And about Armenians living in Azerbaijan, more than 35000 Armenians do not cut them

        Why so sure? Saakashvili also claimed that he wanted to resolve the issue with South Ossetia, that they would not kill anyone. What happened in practice? or maybe you think that your government, your army. much more civilized, and then they really will not allow themselves to do this? Well, look at least into the history of the same conflict in Karabakh, prove that there was no use of force against civilians.
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 5 February 2014 11: 19
          -2
          Quote: vladsolo56
          prove that there was no use of force against civilians.

          During the summer demonstration of our troops in the Mardakert region, many Armenians were unable to leave, and lived normally in their villages. Nobody touched them, like the troget of other Armenians living in other regions and cities of Azerbaijan. They calmly take identification cards with Armenian surnames, Yarbai already gave examples. I will not repeat.
        2. ramin_serg
          ramin_serg 5 February 2014 11: 36
          -2
          I am not saying that there will be no casualties among civilians alas this cannot be avoided.
          I say that now is not the time and the army is no longer the same but organized and more prepared.
          As for 08.08.08, we will not discuss this adventure on this blog, because the topic is rather painful and a large write an article about it I will be happy to discuss.
  • ed65b
    ed65b 5 February 2014 08: 32
    +1
    It mainly depends on whether the United States breaks Ilham Aliyev or not. And the Azerbaijani president is tied to his hands, any of his actions, except for tough rhetoric, will be considered as surrender of positions. But the Turkish version with the transfer of some (in my 3) areas to Azerbaijan as a gesture of goodwill could promise great prospects for the entire negotiation process. The parties could maneuver. It is a pity that the Armenians rested.
  • Sars
    Sars 5 February 2014 08: 48
    +3
    I just can’t understand. Armenia is an ally of Russia, our troops are in it. And why should Azerbaijan pump Russian weapons, with the most modern?
    1. Onizuka teacher
      Onizuka teacher 5 February 2014 08: 58
      +10
      That Armenia one day would not put Russia a rotten pig.
      1. ramin_serg
        ramin_serg 5 February 2014 09: 50
        -4
        What will happen sooner or later read the story
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    3. ed65b
      ed65b 5 February 2014 09: 14
      +2
      Quote: SarS
      I just can’t understand. Armenia is an ally of Russia, our troops are in it. And why should Azerbaijan pump Russian weapons, with the most modern?

      business and nothing personal laughing
      1. ramin_serg
        ramin_serg 5 February 2014 09: 50
        -2
        BUSINESS AND MANY PERSONAL INTERESTS
    4. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 09: 40
      +4
      Quote: SarS
      Why should Azerbaijan pump Russian weapons, with the most modern?

      Firstly, money, and secondly, if a warrior begins, Russia will return a significant part of these weapons as trophies hi
      1. ultra
        ultra 5 February 2014 11: 21
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Russia will return a significant part of these weapons as trophies

        And do we (Russia) need this?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 11: 50
          +2
          Quote: ultra
          And do we (Russia) need this?

          No, but if they refuse, we will take laughing
          1. ultra
            ultra 5 February 2014 14: 33
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            No, but if they refuse, we will take

            Well, if they voluntarily refuse, then yes, I do not mind! laughing
    5. ramin_serg
      ramin_serg 5 February 2014 09: 49
      -4
      Everything is simple
      To support one to deploy troops there and scare others who sell modern weapons
      SO SIMPLY CONVENIENT TO KEEP BOTH UNDER CONTROL AND TO TAKE ON AN ALLY, PURCHASING EVERYTHING AND EVERYTHING AND TO ANOTHER (AZERBAIJAN) SELLING MODERN WEAPONS IN THREE EXPENSIVE
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 11: 06
        +2
        Quote: ramin_serg
        TO ANOTHER (AZERBAIJAN) SELLING MODERN WEAPONS IN THREE EXPENSIVE

        Do not la la, buy, like everything at world prices.
  • Aeneas
    Aeneas 5 February 2014 10: 11
    +5
    Azerbaijan is heavily arming itself, and purchasing weapons from different countries. For Baku, this is an argument in the process of regaining control over the territories occupied by Armenians. Recently, a lot of Russian weapons have arrived in Azerbaijan, and this is presented as a success of the Russian military-industrial complex and foreign policy. A certain dissonance occurs when this weapon shoots at Armenians, for Armenia is actually bought by Russian companies and is positioned as a loyal ally of Russia ... But this is the "prose of life" - it is not weapons that kill people, but people who pull the trigger of a soulless piece of iron, albeit produced in Russia.
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 5 February 2014 10: 16
    +3
    Ukraine is buzzing .. Now Azerbaijan and Armenia have mated (took the time) I feel a cheerful year ahead!
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 5 February 2014 11: 05
      -2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      .Now Azerbaijan and Armenia have grappled (taking the time)

      Siberian frosts hit ..... Everyone calmed down laughing so go ahead, watch the Olympics) by the way, and there is no snow)))) who thought of the presence of Siberia to arrange in the SOCHI Olympiad wassat
    2. old rocket man
      old rocket man 6 February 2014 02: 16
      0
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Ukraine is buzzing .. Now Azerbaijan and Armenia have mated (took the time) I feel a cheerful year ahead!


      Good morning, soon 25 years old, grappled laughing
  • cosmos111
    cosmos111 5 February 2014 10: 24
    +2
    Here is the war, and slowly began.
    It should have started and started. Although E. Aliyev is categorically against the war.
    Co will win, the USA will win, introducing its peacekeepers in N. Karabakh and Azerbaijan.
    And in a year, two together with Israel will hit Iran from these sites.
    Do not forget that Israel and the Jews hate the Armenians no less than the Azerbaijanis.
    Russia will lose in public if it does not openly support Armenia. CSTO member.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 11: 08
      +2
      Quote: cosmos111
      It should have started and started. Although E. Aliyev is categorically against the war.

      Saakashvilli and all politicians as a whole, too, have always been against the warriors, but the warriors began one hell.
      Quote: cosmos111
      Co will win, the USA will win, introducing its peacekeepers in N. Karabakh and Azerbaijan.

      Sweat to enter
      Quote: cosmos111
      Russia will lose in public if it does not openly support Armenia. CSTO member.

      Will not lose! The warrior will lose to her hi
  • virm
    virm 5 February 2014 10: 39
    +6
    In principle, as shown in FIG. The main thing is that refugees do not rush to us. And then, in Azerbaijan, Armenians are pressed, in Armenia - Azerbaijanis, and all run to Russia, to Moscow. Sit there already, freeloaders. Tired of it.
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 5 February 2014 10: 55
      +6
      Quote: virm
      Azerbaijan presses Armenians, in Armenia - Azerbaijanis, and all flee to Russia

      This is the main problem for Russia.
      It's time to introduce a visa regime.
      1. Veteran Vlad.
        Veteran Vlad. 5 February 2014 20: 36
        0
        Quote: cosmos111
        It's time to introduce a visa regime.

        Moreover, RIGID VISA REGIME AND ALL RUSSIANS WHICH REMAINED IN THE REPUBLIC OF CUSTOMS AND CENTRAL ASIA RETURNED TO RUSSIA
    2. Veteran Vlad.
      Veteran Vlad. 5 February 2014 20: 33
      +2
      Quote: virm
      and everyone is fleeing to Russia, to Moscow. Sit there already, freeloaders. Tired of it.

      ALL THIS ARE ALREADY DECORATED, AND THE MOST IMPORTANT NOBODY WANTS TO RETURN TO MYSELF
      And I don’t care who will win ARMENIA OR AZERBAIJAN. I EVERYTHING IS EQUAL
      The main thing is that our children should not fight there
  • calocha
    calocha 5 February 2014 11: 11
    +2
    That’s just before the opening of the games Azerbaijan and ... will begin.
    1. ramin_serg
      ramin_serg 5 February 2014 12: 28
      -3
      God grant and God's help and begin
  • smersh70
    smersh70 5 February 2014 11: 11
    -2
    all komenty hit politics) no one said about the military component))) How, living nearby, I can say, Aviation was completely in the air. The drones did their job. The Israeli modification of the T-72 worked well, especially at night, suppressing and revealing enemy enemy points only in this way. There was no opposition from the vaunted air defense of the NKAO. All the enemy’s RDG actions were completely averted, as a result of which one old man’s guide got caught, they put him in a super-muper clinic right now, he was given such medical care that even Sargsyan did not see such a thing during his visit to rejuvenation in South Korea smile.
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 5 February 2014 11: 49
      +1
      Quote: smersh70
      one old conductor got caught, right now they put him in a super-muper clinic, he was given such medical service,

      Did he die that they did a sex change operation? laughing
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 5 February 2014 12: 08
        -2
        Quote: ed65b
        Did he die that they did a sex change operation?

        laughing for all the poverty of the budget of Armenia, he paid 187000 dollars from the budget for rejuvenation, even there is a photo, he thinks to live longer than God sent him))))
        1. ed65b
          ed65b 5 February 2014 13: 10
          +2
          Quote: smersh70
          Quote: ed65b
          Did he die that they did a sex change operation?

          laughing for all the poverty of the budget of Armenia, he paid 187000 dollars from the budget for rejuvenation, even there is a photo, he thinks to live longer than God sent him))))

          Oh, the eternal dream of mankind to live longer than God has measured. Although in the Caucasus there are enough long-livers for villages. Saw Aksakal of the Azerbaijan war passed his chest in orders for 100 years, well done so waved a glass of wine. Crispy yet.
        2. Artmark
          Artmark 5 February 2014 16: 45
          +1
          Stop digging in someone else's whit! Do not notice the log in your own eye
    2. Saboteur
      Saboteur 5 February 2014 11: 56
      +1
      You yourself saw how your aircraft flew over Stepanakert and Shushi or APA.az said and you, as a blind patriot, believed? It's ridiculous just that an old 77-year-old was promoted to saboteur, and the fact that local residents found him and not the brave soldiers of Azerbaijan with modern Israeli weapons is silent. During the war, without heavy air defense, so many planes were shot down. Why do you think that they will not be able to now?
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 5 February 2014 12: 13
        -3
        Quote: Saboteur
        how did your aircraft fly over Stepanakert and Shushi or APA.az said

        considering where Ganja is located, it can be seen with the naked eye
        Quote: Saboteur
        It's ridiculous just that an old 77-year-old man was promoted to saboteur, and the fact that local residents found him and not the brave soldiers of Azerbaijan with modern Israeli weapons is silent

        you see how our local people are prepared laughing tell you the security regime of state borders since the Soviet Union, the orders of the Chairman of the KGB do not interest))))))
        Quote: Saboteur
        During the war, without heavy air defense, so many planes were shot down. Why do you think that they will not be able to now?

        in the war and planes are shot down. You also lost in Georgia in a week as much as we did in 3 years of war. Now in a different way. We know the places where they are located, there are electronic warfare stations. there are reconnaissance, there are drones. in general, a lot of things))) and no bearded "mamedov" all this is a thing of the past,
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    4. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 11: 56
      +3
      Quote: smersh70
      all komenty hit politics

      Well, this is better than breeding srach as a result of which all comments will be deleted altogether.
      Quote: smersh70
      about the military component))

      And what role does the military component play at this moment? There are no warriors yet.
      Quote: smersh70
      How, living nearby, I can say, Aviation was completely in the air. The drones were doing their job. The Israeli modification of the T-72 worked well, especially at night, it only suppressed and detected enemy enemy points.

      Vurgun, but if everything is so wonderful, a logical question arises: Why is the army of Azerbaijan not yet Stepanakert?
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 5 February 2014 12: 19
        -4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And what role does the military component play at this moment?

        then why put this article here laughing not in KVN they played on the front line))))
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Why is the army of Azerbaijan not yet Stepanakert?

        a good question, but only this question is not for me)))) The President of the country has repeatedly stated, there is still hope that it will be settled by peaceful negotiations. And at the same time, we are strengthening the army so that when Vreya X arrives, which is already not peaceful negotiations to achieve peace, then weapons will already come into action.
        I think so. what else is Putin, in the light of disagreements with the United States, either unwilling or uninterested in a settlement. He has many other problems, and that’s keeping his hand in the situation of neither war nor peace
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 13: 58
          +2
          Quote: smersh70
          ) The President of the country has repeatedly stated, there is still hope that will be resolved by peaceful negotiations

          Well, much progress in the 20 years of negotiations?
          1. smersh70
            smersh70 5 February 2014 15: 09
            -4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Well, much progress in the 20 years of negotiations?

            It seems yes)) if so today in Yerevan they meet the co-chairs)))))
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 6 February 2014 06: 33
              0
              Quote: smersh70

              It seems yes)) if so today in Yerevan they meet the co-chairs))))

              Aha, that means they painted 20 tablets over 2 years, well, this is also progress laughing
      2. ed65b
        ed65b 5 February 2014 13: 15
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Well, this is better than breeding srach as a result of which all comments will be deleted altogether.

        Sasha, ask, please, the administration of the site did not have a desire to hold amnesty for "sticks" on some festive occasion, otherwise it becomes sad laughing Yes, and Vadim is evil today, maybe what happened?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 5 February 2014 13: 56
          +1
          Quote: ed65b
          ask, please, the site administration did not have a desire to hold amnesty for "sticks" on some festive occasion

          Smirnov himself removes the warning, after three months. After three months, write to him hi
  • Orakyl
    Orakyl 5 February 2014 11: 50
    0
    Does it not reach them that this is a classic provocation !? Two mercenaries crawl out to the neutral side, fire at each side and dump them, then everything follows the scenario checked a thousand times, the massacre begins. In order to calculate these providers, you need to understand who benefits from this conflict now, I hope I clearly explained. Anglo-Saxons used this method everywhere.
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 5 February 2014 12: 20
      -2
      Quote: Orakyl
      Two mercenaries crawl out onto the neutral side, fire at each side and dump,

      You do not know the front line, and what happens there, before you reach the front line, you still need to go through the minefield))))) and who else will let someone out of the trenches)) komts hunting then answer before the special officer))))
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  • polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 5 February 2014 12: 28
    +1
    Colleagues, why doesn’t anyone say how many Azerbaijanis settled in Moscow and literally parasitize in the markets, what’s the economy boosting? In the near future, all the threats to civilized countries will come from Islamic radicals, this is understandable. I’m closer, though because they are Orthodox.
    1. ramin_serg
      ramin_serg 5 February 2014 14: 37
      -4
      You see, my friend, I’m not very literate in religious matters. Armenians are not Orthodox, but quite the opposite, they are mostly Gregorians. They are also part of Catholics and Protestants.
      1. Dym71
        Dym71 5 February 2014 15: 02
        0
        Dear ramin_serg, do not rush to blame polkovnik manuch for illiteracy. It is not so simple - the AAC belongs to the ancient Eastern Orthodox Churches.
  • chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 5 February 2014 12: 50
    +5
    There are three active Azerbaijanis on the site, one of them is a moderator, plus two sympathizers. And two Armenians. Azerbaijanis have already actively acted and reported on the evil and insidious Armenians. There is no rumor or spirit from the Armenians yet, but what they will tell is also clear. We all know who shouts the loudest - "stop the thief", but this, in principle, does not change anything, and is not very interesting. I'm interested in how the situation will develop further. Turkey has promised aid against Armenia, but is now occupied by the Kurds and Syria. Russia, an ally of Armenia, but arming Azerbaijan, is busy in Syria, the Olympics, and apparently is seriously distracted by Ukraine. It looks like the sons of Transcaucasia decided that while the adults are busy with their own affairs, they can quickly pick up their own. It will be interesting or not.
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 5 February 2014 12: 59
      -5
      Well, you, too, with ARTMARK are part of the sympathizing Armenians wassat We didn’t decide anything yet. The Armenians, sitting on the defensive and waiting at any time for the advance of the Azerbaijanis, constantly check the combat readiness, the locations and the concentration of our troops, and here their RDGs are constantly working. and what should we do, do not meet with fire chtoli, and even turn on the music. In winter, dear, they don’t fight in the mountains, where there are 4 meters of snowdrifts. All questions to your beloved friends
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 5 February 2014 13: 17
        +1
        Quote: smersh70
        Well, you, too, with ARTMARK are part of the sympathizing Armenians wassat We didn’t decide anything yet. The Armenians, sitting on the defensive and waiting at any time for the advance of the Azerbaijanis, constantly check the combat readiness, the locations and the concentration of our troops, and here their RDGs are constantly working. and what should we do, do not meet with fire chtoli, and even turn on the music. In winter, dear, they don’t fight in the mountains, where there are 4 meters of snowdrifts. All questions to your beloved friends

        well, what’s an option, set the table louder music, sit down, eat, drink drinks
      2. chunga-changa
        chunga-changa 5 February 2014 13: 24
        +3
        Quote: smersh70
        bye. Armenians sitting on the defensive and waiting at any time for the advance of Azerbaijanis

        So all the same, are you preparing to attack?
        They don’t fight about winter, try to remember how beautifully they fought in the winter of 1990. Honestly, a logical solution seems to be the exchange of territory. You Karabakh, the Armenians of Nakhichevan, and a 10-kilometer demilitarized zone along the border. But in my opinion, cutting each other is more interesting. It’s hard to forbid people to do what they love.
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 5 February 2014 13: 46
          -2
          Quote: chunga-changa
          So all the same, are you preparing to attack?

          Do not hesitate))) and pass it on to your friends)))) and in the winter of 90 years, there were fights between fighters in the Khanlar district. You probably mean winter94 — at first it was not bad, they recaptured part of the Fizuli region, Mardakert, Kelbajar in the south. But the weather turned bad later, it was necessary to dig in, but ours didn’t calm down, and in Kelbajar they blocked the only road, panic, all guns, tanks in the gorges and went out through the mountains and fell under an avalanche. Idt ... always and everyone had enough
          1. chunga-changa
            chunga-changa 5 February 2014 14: 24
            +3
            Quote: smersh70
            Do not hesitate))) and tell your friends)))

            It’s not hard for me. I pass on to all my friends at the request of a resident of Azeibardzhan - do not hesitate, there will be a war, they just wait for warmth. Peaceful Turks will attack arsonists from Armenia.
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 5 February 2014 14: 45
              -3
              Quote: chunga-changa
              azeibardzhan - do not hesitate, the war will be, just waiting for the heat. Peaceful Turks

              That’s understandable. By your spelling, it’s clear who you are wassat this is written only by representatives of one nation))) and identifying yours is my profession and work. fellow I feel in the distance)))))
            2. Yeraz
              Yeraz 5 February 2014 21: 57
              -2
              Quote: chunga-changa
              Peaceful Turks will attack arsonists from Armenia.

              correctly the Turks and they will be there.
        2. alone
          alone 5 February 2014 20: 26
          -2
          Quote: chunga-changa
          To you Karabakh, the Armenians of Nakhichevan,


          Nakhchivan is also the territory of Azerbaijan. What did you propose that you understood at least yourself?)))
  • parus2nik
    parus2nik 5 February 2014 13: 10
    +2
    Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ...
  • Stinger
    Stinger 5 February 2014 13: 34
    +3
    Now it’s clear why the USSR was bad. Everyone got along there. Except proud and arrogant loafers.
  • Tiamat2702
    Tiamat2702 5 February 2014 13: 37
    +1
    Quote: Civil
    Civilized and adequate people do not divide people by nationality and, accordingly, can calmly agree on a solution to the conflict. And even more precisely, they would not cut each other on a national basis. This is ordinary Nazism. How does this differ from how hundreds of thousands of Tutsis were cut from a massacre in Sumgait, for example, in a Hutu machete?

    It is interesting, if we proceed from the assessment precisely on these criteria, are there many civilized and adequate people in our world in general? What is the percentage? ))))
  • Leshka
    Leshka 5 February 2014 13: 45
    0
    love here Americans had a hand
  • apro
    apro 5 February 2014 13: 57
    +2
    What to understand in their bodysha, it is necessary to give them the opportunity to drink up blood to vomit. Worked with an Azerbaijani and an Armenian does not pull nichrome; there is none good there, the whole conflict on emotions is well warmed up and well-timed by someone.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 5 February 2014 21: 53
      -3
      Quote: apro
      What to understand in their bodyweight,

      Right.
      Quote: apro
      the whole conflict on the emotions of someone is well warmed up and well-fed in time.

      yeah, someone unknown captured 20% of the territory. Someone made 1 million refugees and someone holds these territories. And so are Armenians and Azerbaijanis brothers, if not for this someone.
      Himself not funny ??
  • uhu189
    uhu189 5 February 2014 14: 00
    +2
    And I would like to clarify the following point with our Azerbaijani forum users - God forbid, the war began, the Azerbaijani army launched an offensive. I admit that it will be successful and it will be possible to free most of the territory. Then what? Will peace come on the border with Armenia? Definitely not. The fact that Armenia will form units and send them to the territory of Karabakh is more than likely, as well as support local militants. Incidents at the border will increase even more, sabotage, provocation will begin. In response, only terror, violence and the problem, as it was not resolved, could not be resolved. I do not think that under such conditions, the leadership of Azerbaijan will invest in the development of Nagorno-Karabakh. And as a result, instead of the occupied territory there will be a territory with the action of illegal armed groups and constant guerrilla warfare and expenses for maintaining troops, which will hit the budget very hard. And in the end, come to where it began in 1988 ... War is definitely not an option, it’s an even bigger dead end, you still need to try to negotiate.
    1. ramin_serg
      ramin_serg 5 February 2014 14: 33
      -3
      The world will be but relative
      Armenia will send troops and we will fight with them
      Azerbaijan will invest money and not small
      firstly because it is our land and those who live there are our citizens) and we will develop them.
      secondly, it will be beneficial not only to the people of Azerbaijan and the region, but also to some of our co-ordinated officials
      We have been agreeing for 20 years, and all blood is shed and will be shed until the point is set
      1. uhu189
        uhu189 5 February 2014 21: 16
        +1
        They didn’t agree, because no one was going to and did not want to agree. There was no desire to listen to each other. Another thing surprises me - the confidence with which forum users from Azerbaijan say that the war will be easy and quick. And if not? If there is a protracted meat grinder with huge losses on both sides, then what? Will there be money not only for the development of Karabakh, but at least for maintaining stability in Azerbaijan? After all, oil facilities are a very vulnerable target, especially oil pipelines. And this war can throw the country back decades. Do any of you take this into account? Or is everything based on confidence in a small victorious war? Be reasonable though you are, I beg you. Those who start the war sign their complete inability to solve the problem in other, better ways. Is the fucking Karabakh worth the lives of thousands of people? What, its absence does not allow Azerbaijan to develop normally ?, that it is urgent to start an adventure that can lead to unpredictable consequences? Think about it. And sorry for the emotionality.
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 5 February 2014 21: 44
          -1
          Quote: uhu189
          Another thing surprises me - the confidence with which forum users from Azerbaijan say that the war will be easy and quick

          This confidence is provoked if Russia does not intervene in the conflict. Because in other ways Armenia has stupidly not enough resources to fight (I don’t even emphasize other facts)
          Quote: uhu189
          Those who start the war sign their complete inability to solve the problem in other, better ways.

          Decide 20 years, only worse.

          Quote: uhu189
          Is the fucking Karabakh worth the lives of thousands of people?

          Here, be careful, this is our homeland with 20% of our homeland, and for this we will become a throat and shahid for any throat. During the blockade of Leningrad, such theses did not sound and how would you look at the one who would tell you this ???
          Quote: uhu189
          what urgent need to start an adventure that could lead to unpredictable consequences?

          It doesn’t start right away. Even for 2 decades, negotiations have been going on and they only make the situation worse and soon a generation will leave that remembered at least something good about each other and there will only be a new generation.
        2. smersh70
          smersh70 5 February 2014 22: 32
          -4
          Quote: uhu189
          Is the fucking Karabakh worth the lives of thousands of people?
          say the same thing about Chechnya .......
          Quote: uhu189
          then, its absence does not allow Azerbaijan to develop normally?
          and unless Chechnya, without its absence, did not allow Russia to develop normally. You see, I probably touched you for the living. The territory of the country is holy. Each inch of land. After all, we were taught with you the words of Klochkov-Velik ........ that's the same thing.
    2. Yeraz
      Yeraz 5 February 2014 21: 51
      -2
      Quote: uhu189
      Then what? Will peace come on the border with Armenia? Definitely not.

      Well, there will be closed borders, but in the future it will be possible to agree. And there will be no dispute, because. This is not 20% of the territory of Armenia and the Armenians will not have a million refugees, as we have since there were fewer there. And Turkey will be able to go to meeting Armenia because Azerbaijan will not restrain it and much more.
      Quote: uhu189
      The fact that Armenia will form units and send them to the territory of Karabakh is more than likely, as well as support local militants.

      You confuse Azerbaijan’s war with Armenia with other wars. Since the start of hostilities, the Armenian civilian population will leave this area, since both Armenians and Azerbaijanis will be well aware of pure destruction and no one will remain with their families. There live from the strength of 70 thousand Armenians. And militants there will be nowhere to send because they will dig trenches and mine and the Armenian population will not support them.
      Quote: uhu189
      And as a result, instead of the occupied territory there will be a territory with the action of illegal armed groups and constant guerrilla warfare and the costs of maintaining troops, which will hit the budget very hard

      Do not confuse with Chechnya and other wars. They had nowhere to retreat, but there are Armenians. Nearby is their state-in Armenia and everyone will leave there and transport the entire civilian population.
      Quote: uhu189
      War is definitely not an option, it is an even bigger dead end

      This is another way out if others would not have climbed here.
      1. uhu189
        uhu189 5 February 2014 23: 37
        +2
        I will try to answer all the answers with one message. Dear Yeraz, the problem is that Karabakh is not only your homeland, but also the homeland of those who live there now. And they are set up exactly the same in terms of upholding it. I have a question for you - how did you live together with the Armenians until the 1987 year, and what happened then, which dramatically changed people?
        I am a little familiar with the course of the Karabakh conflict. And I think you will not argue with the fact that during the active phase of the war, Azerbaijan had an advantage in both technology and resources. Did it help? You yourself know very well that wars are won not by equipment and resources, but by people and their motivation. I understand your feelings perfectly, but wake up at least a little and think - why is everything right now? Ukraine now ... You now ... Well, is it really not obvious to you that you and your patriotic feelings are simply being used. There are always options to solve the world. Okay, I understand that I can’t convince anyone of anything, but I can make you think about something. Still, I hope that things will not come to war, it is necessary to live and build, and not to fight and destroy ...
        1. alone
          alone 5 February 2014 23: 53
          0
          If you are familiar with the course of the conflict, then you probably won’t refute the fact that, during the year, there were several coups, the army was really created very late. Most of the fighting units did not have a common command. Although there was technology, but it wasn’t in working state. A single command was established at the end of 1993. By this time, significant territories had already been lost.

          Quote: uhu189
          . There are always options to solve the world.


          And who can say that there are no more options? Let the troops withdraw from the occupied territories. The territorial integrity of any state is inviolable. It is required by international law, the subjects of which are all countries of the world and must comply with it.
          1. uhu189
            uhu189 6 February 2014 00: 29
            0
            I will not deny, you are right, the devil knew what was happening in Baku at that time. And so I would really not want that instability to return. War is always evil, and you know it no worse than me ... Okay, I repeat too much the same thing. This is your life, your country and your choice ...
        2. smersh70
          smersh70 5 February 2014 23: 55
          -2
          Quote: uhu189
          during the active phase of the war, Azerbaijan had an advantage in both technology and resources.
          when there was a predominance, then they owned 52% of the territory)) I already put the statements of the Armenian official and Kocharyan here. Read ---
          Quote: uhu189
          and people and their motivation. I understand your feelings perfectly, but wake up at least a little and think about why everything is right now
          Not our RDGs acted at the beginning. I’ll just say that as soon as the breakthrough in the negotiations goes a bit, the Armenians immediately begin to make noise at the front. So it was 1998, in 2006, then the Armenians also spent in the Fizuli region in the summer, or rather they wanted to hold clashes, but ours again flew into the air ... It is beneficial for them to maintain the status quo when they hold 20% of the territory of Azerbaijan. We agree to the highest autonomy. We even agree that they have internal troops, a double passport, the level of autonomy is even higher than the level of Tatarstan in Russia. What else is needed. Who will agree to the emergence of 2 Armenian statehoods in our territory .. Once they have already been given Yerevan in 18. How much is possible. May give more .....
        3. Yeraz
          Yeraz 6 February 2014 01: 19
          -1
          Quote: uhu189
          Dear Yeraz, the problem is that Karabakh is not only your homeland, but also the homeland of those who live there now.

          I explain that there is Nagorno-Karabakh, which does not border with Armenia and 7 regions around Karabakh, there were relatively many of them in Nagorno-Karabakh, and in seven around there is an insignificant minority. That is, according to your theory, your house is taken away from you and your demands are made by the Court or another body says, but this is not only your home. but also them.
          They have already made concessions to them, allowing after the return of the Azerbaijanis to grant autonomy in Nagorno-Karabakh.
          Quote: uhu189
          I have a question for you - how did you live with the Armenians until 1987, and what happened then, which dramatically changed people?

          I come from Armenia and in our area there were practically no Armenians, the high-mountainous region was in difficult conditions. It was always cold, the Armenians always loved warmly. And I, as a representative of the Irevan khanate, where Tsarist Russia relocated the Armenians ousting Azerbaijanis from Irevan, and then Stalin II once you resettled us from the borders of Turkey, and the third last resettlement of us before the start of Karabakh. Everything started earlier, but the media zombified you all, they said Sumgait, then the Armenians got scared and wanted to separate. That's just what happened to Sumgait, your minimal awareness of the bulk.
          So that life happened with a sense of the KGB behind him. Therefore, everything was quiet.
          Quote: uhu189
          And I think you will not argue with the fact that during the active phase of the war, Azerbaijan had an advantage in both technology and resources. Did it help?

          so then tell B. The number of Azerbaijani officers how many were in the Soviet army and how many Armenians they have more, because we liked to send Muslims to the construction battalions and we got that officer officer only thanks to Heydar Aliyev with the parish. who began mass sending to study to various fields outside of Azerbaijan and the opening of their own training centers. On the side of the Armenians was a powerful diaspora with various specialists, the Lebanese diaspora with rich fighting experience and which we managed to put and many other factors that you can easily recognize yourself.
          Quote: uhu189
          . Still, I hope that things will not come to war, it is necessary to live and build, and not to fight and destroy ...

          Do you think we want a war ?? But 20 years and knowledge of armaments shows no other way. Well, except for one if Russia leaves. Then there will not even be a war, the Armenians, feeling the absence of a roof, will quickly go to negotiations.
  • Tiamat2702
    Tiamat2702 5 February 2014 14: 16
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Omar, you are kind of a diplomat, working at the Azerbaijani Embassy in Sweden, and why are you sitting and writing nonsense? Russia has given a green light on Karabakh, what else do you need. Maybe Putin personally come and give an order to your defense minister to launch an offensive if your Aliyev is afraid?

    Opachki, something the Azerbaijani diplomat does not have too diplomatic methods of conducting discussion and a clearly excessive manifestation of emotions in the debate. I would think on the spot management about the relevance of the post. Okay, plebeian, sometimes a little excessive emotion is allowed to me. But you, Omar, should think ...))))
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 5 February 2014 14: 42
      -3
      Quote: Tiamat2702
      packs, something for an Azerbaijani diplomat is not too diplomatic methods of conducting discussions and a clearly excessive manifestation of emotions in the debate. I would think in place of leadership

      He doesn’t make statements at a meeting with Deputy Lavrov))))))) These are his personal statements, by the way, and Nick is not a Diplomat, but Hasharat)))))
  • Tiamat2702
    Tiamat2702 5 February 2014 14: 25
    0
    Quote: xasharat
    and Russia. Which on papers and weapons supports us, but in fact, Armenia, of course, not for free. :)


    So you really decide - Russia supports you "on paper or weapons"? This morning, these were still two mutually exclusive hypostases. )))))
  • smersh70
    smersh70 5 February 2014 15: 12
    +3
    Let's get some humor)) laugh, otherwise it's hot fellow where is this photo taken.
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    1. FormerMariman
      FormerMariman 5 February 2014 16: 06
      +4
      Yes, everyone knows that the Armenians started claiming claims only on the basis that they live there more, contrary to common sense and existing borders. Whoever took the knife first and you won’t understand the machine, but the explosive aziks were enough, and the Armenians played a sacrifice using the sometimes irrepressible conflict of Azics. Now the Armenians know that they are wrong with Karabakh and hid under the skirt of Russia as a naughty girl!
    2. Artmark
      Artmark 5 February 2014 16: 53
      -2
      cool think! lol
      1. FormerMariman
        FormerMariman 5 February 2014 18: 50
        +4
        Firstly, the Aziks themselves spoiled the "image" by their explosive character and bloodthirstiness. Thus, subjectively, the CIS majority considers the Armenians to be right from both sides!
        Secondly, the Russian administration is closer to the point of view of Armenians as a country joining the CU, a member of the CSTO, etc., and from Aziks "it smells like the West," secondly, they buy weapons on the side and in general they are closer to Turkey than to Russia.
        If we discard all this, then objectively, in this particular case with Karabakh, Azerbaijan was initially and generally right, everything else is already a consequence due to the characters of both!
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 5 February 2014 21: 35
          -3
          [quote = Former Mariman] ...........deleted by moderator Apollo/ Quote]
          Administrator where are we looking?
          1. apollo
            apollo 8 February 2014 00: 57
            +1
            << Administrator where are we looking?
            it’s right where he is looking, they don’t seem to offend those :)
    3. Veteran Vlad.
      Veteran Vlad. 5 February 2014 21: 03
      +1
      Quote: pawel57
      Both of them live in Russia and behave arrogantly and defiantly. It is better to deport them all to their historical homeland and let them roam there

      Quote: pawel57
      Russians do not have to go into their showdown, and not let another wave of refugee Armenians come to them

      Here is a sound argument - I fully support you
      And Introduce a hard visa regime and pick up all the Russians left there
    4. Yeraz
      Yeraz 5 February 2014 21: 37
      -1
      Quote: pawel57
      It is better to deport them all to their historical homeland and let them roam there.

      Only for. Most importantly, send everyone, including me, although I am a citizen of the Russian Federation and participation in this war will be considered mercenarism under the law of the Russian Federation, but even so. And most importantly, do not intervene.
      1. Veteran Vlad.
        Veteran Vlad. 5 February 2014 23: 51
        +1
        Quote: Yeraz
        And most importantly, do not interfere.

        Yes, I am only FOR, I am against The blood of the Russian SOLDIERS PURPOSED for other countries and other nations. Russian soldier needed for Russian NEED
        1. alone
          alone 5 February 2014 23: 55
          +1
          Quote: Veteran Vlad.
          Yes, I am only FOR, I am opposed to the Blood of Russian SOLDIERS PURPOSED for other countries and other peoples. Russian soldier needed for Russian NEED


          I support. There is nothing for your children to die for the wishes of others. Let them die themselves. Once they want to.
        2. Yeraz
          Yeraz 6 February 2014 01: 24
          0
          Quote: Veteran Vlad.
          Yes, I am only FOR, I am opposed to the Blood of Russian SOLDIERS PURPOSED for other countries and other peoples. Russian soldier needed for Russian NEED

          golden words. And I’ll say more, the pocket of the Russian taxpayer (and I am among them) should not feed others. But they want to see in Russia not only money to take and freebies to Armenians to shed, but also shed blood. In Georgia they shed, but Azerbaijan is more Muslim the country here it will spill many times more. Just why ?? Because of the Armenians ??? Yes, they can not tolerate the majority, like the Azerbaijanis.
  • dmb
    dmb 5 February 2014 15: 30
    +2
    Calm down "hot Estonian heads". Both Armenians and Azerbaijanis lived in the land of Karabakh, and there were countless mixed marriages between them. They lived quietly, went to visit each other, played weddings. And then a few scoundrels, and here you really have to be objective, from among the Armenians they wanted power and money. They remembered their "oppression" (although they were all far from poor people) and went to the scoundrel from among the Russians. Tom, too, did not let the laurels of the "peacemaker" sleep, Gorbachev was his last name. He would have brought them to justice for inciting ethnic hatred and anti-Soviet agitation and propaganda, but then he is not a peacemaker. Talk about national exclusivity always ends in blood. What we have today is in Karabakh, in Ukraine, in Chechnya and Dagestan, in Manezhka.
  • ko88
    ko88 5 February 2014 15: 31
    0
    unfortunately smoldering conflicts in our post-Soviet space, there are a lot of work in North Ossetia there is a similar confrontation with Ingushetia, God forbid that the government restrains this conflict with its iron hand, the conflicts are complex and remarkable that they cannot be localized in the shortest possible time, we are tuned for a peaceful solution spore.
  • Imperial
    Imperial 5 February 2014 15: 38
    +4
    Oh ... how is all this zae ... Are we humans or not? There was a Soviet man for whom the homeland was, Tynda and Yerevan and Baku and all the cities of the USSR, what happened to us?
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 5 February 2014 21: 34
      -1
      Quote: Imperial
      There was a Soviet man

      Maybe a narrow circle was there. But basically everything was on paper. Everything was completely different in places. People didn’t speak Russian and lived on their land according to their adepts, nominally being Soviet. It is easy to be Soviet under the supervision of a huge apparatus of the CPSU and the all-powerful KGB .
      Give me these forces, I’ll quickly do many Indians here. Not like the Soviet ones.
  • EdwardTich68
    EdwardTich68 5 February 2014 17: 54
    +1
    Both sides are equally to blame, and the situation is complicated. Azerbaijan is rattling arms and Armenia is in the Collective Security Treaty Organization.
    It’s better, of course, to have a bad peace than a good quarrel, however, if Azerbaijan decides, it can
    it will not have the right to squeeze Armenians out of NKAR and the Russian Federation until it directly affects Armenia, the situation with the Serbian krajina in Croatia was similar. Armenia, in turn, will undoubtedly
    support the NKAR behind the scenes or even explicitly. This cesspool and not the situation.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 5 February 2014 21: 32
      -2
      Quote: EdwardTich68
      Both sides are equally to blame

      yeah. I would look at the reaction of many here if the Second World War would be estimated that both sides are to blame and the situation is complicated, live in peace.
      Kills the double approaches of many here sitting.
      1. EdwardTich68
        EdwardTich68 7 February 2014 16: 05
        0
        The Second World War is a war for the further development of the entire civilization, and the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict is a minor tribal feud for a worthless piece of land.
  • alone
    alone 5 February 2014 20: 33
    -2
    This is all a game. Armenia is striving in the TS. And it is necessary to determine the borders of the TS. Therefore, they are pushing for 7 areas around Karabakh to be liberated. Sargsyan can’t just take and return 7 areas. He will be hanged on a lamppost in Yerevan for this. environment, then to explain the surrender of the areas. The whole boron cheese is this.
    1. genisis
      genisis 5 February 2014 20: 40
      +1
      There are no regions of Azerbaijan.
      There are the borders of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic defined by the Constitution.
      Neither Sargsyan, nor Putin, nor Obama, nor Aliyev, nor Erdogan, nor the Minsk group, no one can change them even by a millimeter.
      Nobody except NKR citizens
      1. alone
        alone 5 February 2014 22: 18
        0
        Open your eyes, what kind of NKR, what constitution. NKR is an amorphous creature. Nobody recognized him and will not recognize him. Even Armenia does not recognize him. When they return, I will remember these words to you.
        NKR citizens)))
    2. EdwardTich68
      EdwardTich68 5 February 2014 20: 48
      0
      Do you think Armenian society will forgive such a Sargsyan?
  • EdwardTich68
    EdwardTich68 5 February 2014 20: 57
    +1
    After all, if Azerbaijan invades Karabakh, it will undoubtedly exterminate all Armenians without exception.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 5 February 2014 21: 30
      -2
      Quote: EdwardTich68
      After all, if Azerbaijan invades Karabakh, it will undoubtedly exterminate all Armenians without exception.

      No will not exterminate because of their absence.
      you do not compare this war with the wars of other countries.
      In Karabakh, it really lives from the power of 70 and this population will completely depart as soon as hostilities begin. More precisely, only the male population will be able to fight, there will be no civilian population.
      Everyone knows perfectly well that no one will spare each other and do not build illusions. Therefore, all conversations, they say the Armenians will be utopian exterminated, military units will be destroyed, and the population will peacefully depart. And so the advanced areas are empty with ghosts because they are close to the front.
  • tochila
    tochila 5 February 2014 22: 30
    0
    I remember the letter of the Karabakh khan to the Russian tsar about protection and acceptance into citizenship! And who else but Russia should mediate — the tea of ​​the land is not strangers to us!
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 6 February 2014 01: 25
      0
      Quote: tochila
      And who else but Russia should mediate — the tea of ​​the land is not strangers to us!

      Only Russia does not play an intermediary role, but a roofing role.
  • Ptah
    Ptah 5 February 2014 23: 27
    +1
    He specifically tried to translate everything into the area of ​​laughter ** kov ...
    No ... You won't be able to do this with intellectuals ... Everyone has a thick tome with "facts" in their bosom, if not a stone, or, in extreme cases, a VHS cassette ... Why? And in order to break through the boss who disagrees with your position ...
    It seems that it does not contradict all the laws "on ignition", but looking at it is extremely unpleasant ...
    The Slavs in Ukraine are ready to clean each other, Caucasians are happy to bite off for themselves another protopcine between the mountains, although absolutely everyone wants to breed in RUSSIA. And not only stupidly multiply, but also certainly obtain Russian citizenship. What for?
    Why are the names of the directors of the markets Azerbaijani and the names of the construction companies Armenian. Maybe one Azerbaijan organizes in the Caucasus the largest corporation in Europe to grow pomegranates (which have ruby ​​berries inside), and another macaw pierces through all the Caucasus passes with comfortable tunnels like in Switzerland ...
    This will not happen until YOU have all raked something that you’ve got used to for centuries ... Lash !!!
    But all Caucasians, under the guise of a whip, necessarily imply restrictions on contracts for the supply of weapons from their Korefans. The difference is simply that the "korefans" were different ... Some of them are Turkomans, others are simple-minded Russians.
    Can, in place of Russia, follow the Jewish principle of dogging neighbors, weakening them? Then why equip with modern means of stripping? It is enough to give them "chemistry" absolutely free of charge, and absolutely "equally" ...
    "Equality" will depend on the amount of "free" -paid ...
    Silence and peace will reign for a long time ... If not, the borders of the Russian Empire will expand, and the borders of all sorts of mythical kingdoms of Turkistan will generally disappear ...
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 6 February 2014 00: 06
      -1
      Quote: Ptah
      He specifically tried to translate everything into the area of ​​laughter ** kov ...
      so it is necessary to put more emoticons)) otherwise, we hot "Estonian" guys sometimes do not understand in the heat of an argument. bully
      Quote: Ptah
      Whip !!!

      Quote: Ptah
      silence and peace will reign for a long time
      a representative of the great-power Russian state says in YOU) the whip is in the past .. right now you should not convince anyone) right now you need to be economically, trade, equal)))))))))
      Quote: Ptah
      the mythical kingdoms of Turkistan will generally disappear ...
      it would be more correct to write the kingdoms of Great Armenia bully no one is thinking about Turkistan ...
      1. Ptah
        Ptah 6 February 2014 00: 32
        0
        On its last legs, Vurgun.
        Chops - I want to sleep ...

        Here is someone, and the "Finnish-Estonian" drunks catch humor, albeit with inhibition, but always unmistakably ...

        The whip is valid only in conjunction with the "carrot", but only when it precedes ... Otherwise, it is perceived as weakness.
        After all, no one gives the child (in the sense of the time of gaining Sovereignty) first candy, and then the belt. More often - on the contrary ...

        A representative of at least three nationalities speaks in me, but more like a Sovetsky pioneer.
        "Children of different nations. We are full of the dream of friendship ..." Do you remember?

        Play us on the "great" Armenia or Turkistan. We are committed to equality - in the war with the Western pidergs, everyone is equal.
        Fuck on banknotes - the future for nature. food exchange ... Nas.rat on ephemeral borders - they are not for the all-pervasive decomposition of man.

        ftslopopfml avavavavavavavavavdl
        muzzle fell on clavuuuuuuuuuu ......
    2. Yeraz
      Yeraz 6 February 2014 01: 30
      -1
      Quote: Ptah
      Why are the names of the directors of the markets - Azerbaijani,

      This is yes.
      Quote: Ptah
      and the names of the construction companies are Armenian.

      here I bet they are not monopolists there and they do not bypass Azerbaijanis.
      And do not pay attention to the endings, I myself work in the company, on paper all the leading positions are Russian surnames, but in reality the owners are Azerbaijanis and they are employees of the 2nd or 3rd rank on paper, but everyone knows who the master is. This is from the series Britain, the Queen’s signature is put, but she does not have real power))
  • apollo
    apollo 6 February 2014 03: 56
    0
    hello everyone at such a late hour, I am burning with the desire to ask representatives of the gas industry, which of all those present will go to war if they come from the military enlistment office - to smell the gunpowder, on the site all garbage to write this one, and who will go to war ????
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 6 February 2014 04: 05
      +3
      Quote: apollo
      which of all those present will go to war if they come from the military registration and enlistment office - to smell the gunpowder,

      I could name a couple of people, I’ll not request Follow the bazaar and then the moderators will wake up ....
      1. apollo
        apollo 6 February 2014 04: 08
        0
        I asked the Azerbaijanis, otherwise they wave their fists all the time after the fight
        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 6 February 2014 04: 22
          +3
          It so happened that many of them are my friends with whom I communicate personally And I can say that everything can turn out very interesting But that's just bloody
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 6 February 2014 10: 26
      -2
      Quote: apollo
      with a desire to ask representatives of azerogitprom
      Yes, you better look, your friends' defense is already afraid of ordinary tires laughing
      Tension on the contact line of troops is expressed not only by shooting from the Azerbaijani side, but also by lighting tires at night, launching signal flares and using drones, ”Armenian Defense Minister Seyran Ohanyan said at a plenary session of the Armenian parliament, Armenian News reports. Without hiding his deep concern over the situation, he added that if necessary, in such cases, the Armenian side will have nothing to do but respond to the actions of Azerbaijan. However, S. Ohanyan did not specify how and by what Armenia is going to answer. But the minister immediately turned to the details of military-technical cooperation with Russia, demonstratively emphasizing that it is being implemented within the framework of the agreement signed in 2010 between the Armenian and Russian defense ministries. According to him, Armenia acquired military equipment that allows not only to defend itself, but also to prevent an attack if necessary.

      S. Ohanyan’s great concern was expressed by his yet another statement yesterday. The Armenian minister openly stated that "if Azerbaijan declares war on Armenia, the CSTO will assist the Armenian side, as provided for in the organization’s charter." With this hysterical statement, the Minister of Defense of Armenia made a meeting with Armenian war veterans. Someone here spoke of an unbeatable army of Armenians. Here's the answer))))
      1. apollo
        apollo 7 February 2014 23: 45
        +1
        you would honor yours, otherwise you always refer to foreign ministers, not seriously ...
  • apollo
    apollo 6 February 2014 03: 59
    +1
    Quote: Yeraz
    Quote: tochila
    And who else but Russia should mediate — the tea of ​​the land is not strangers to us!

    Only Russia does not play an intermediary role, but a roofing role.


    yes to you then what’s the matter, you who climbed into NATO and sit there, it’s clear that the fifth point is on fire, put ice
    1. alone
      alone 6 February 2014 19: 52
      -1
      Who poured him the last 100 grams? What NATO, what is it all about? Do you even understand what you wrote?
      1. apollo
        apollo 7 February 2014 23: 30
        0
        "Who poured him the last 100 grams? What NATO, what are you talking about? Do you even understand what you wrote?"

        It would certainly be a lot of honor if you were there, the scale is not the same, but you climb them in one place all the time ...
        1. alone
          alone 7 February 2014 23: 46
          -2
          Quote: apollo
          It would certainly be a lot of honor if you were there, the scale is not the same, but you climb them in one place all the time ...


          climb into one place it is on your line. licensed and patented)
          1. apollo
            apollo 7 February 2014 23: 59
            0
            I don’t understand only one thing, why are you so bred here, you have a place at http://www.defensereview.com/, your friends are there, they will praise you, they can throw some money, they don’t have enough of your rations to see
            you how your pay for each word or fixed?
  • Romaze
    Romaze 6 February 2014 06: 53
    -1
    I would, God forbid, of course, be instead of the Armenians, I would generally be silent. And then they were occupied with the help of a third party, they killed many civilians of Azerbaijanis, and now they are hypocrites, they brazenly lie, distort facts, falsify history. Thus, they are driving themselves into a dead end .. Therefore, today Armenia is in a bolt
    1. apollo
      apollo 7 February 2014 23: 41
      +3
      “I would, God forbid, of course, be instead of Armenians, I would be silent at all. And then they occupied it with the help of a third party, killed many civilians of Azerbaijanis, and now the hypocrites, blatantly lie, distort the facts, falsify history. Thus, they are driving themselves into a dead end .. Because Armenia today is in a bolt

      whose will you be - a victim of the azerohytprom ???
  • combatpilot
    combatpilot 7 February 2014 00: 27
    +4
    The article is nothing. Another "bunch" of Azeri prop, reprinted by a Turkish newspaper.
    It is surprising how many "enarals" are there among the Azerbaijani commentators. Nobody wants to be a private, all generals or marshals. Topvar seems to be a teahouse already :)

    Calm down comrades. I am sure that you will all have the opportunity with a real weapon in your hands instead of an ax / keyboard, to the glory of the Aliyev-Pashayevs, show what they are capable of. Enough for everyone.

    Interestingly, there is already a mediocre article on an ax on the topic of Karabakh. Dear Russians are preparing a site for another dirty trick?
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 7 February 2014 00: 43
      -3
      Quote: combatpilot
      it is amazing how many "enarals" are there among the Azerbaijani commentators.
      bad is the soldier who does not want to be a general fellow your statement is an insult to everyone present. By the way, do you have a head and hands that don’t have a chtol. Saw, shura, nag wassat
      1. apollo
        apollo 8 February 2014 00: 17
        -1
        << bad is the soldier who does not want to be a general fellow your statement insults everyone present. By the way, you have no head or hands. Saw, shurochka, saw wassat

        do your job stir up water

        << your statement is insulting to everyone present

        be responsible for yourself
    2. EdwardTich68
      EdwardTich68 7 February 2014 01: 09
      +1
      Eastern traders in vegetables are simply not able to understand and comprehend the consequences of such a step.
  • EdwardTich68
    EdwardTich68 7 February 2014 01: 20
    -1
    Karabakh will never be Azerbaijani and not understand this, not smartly.
    1. atillaxnumx
      atillaxnumx 16 February 2014 22: 56
      +1
      Do not be so categorical. The war is not lost and not finished.
  • gene
    gene 7 February 2014 10: 20
    0
    The fact that the CSTO is an unnecessary organization has long been known, and the author only wants to disguise it. The CSTO does not interfere, so that it doesn't get worse. The fact that Azerbaijanis cannot fight, but constantly prove something, also becomes known. As the saying goes, "In words, you are Leo Tolstoy, but in deeds ... you are simple. There will be a war, we'll see, but now we must behave with dignity, not look for any" historical facts "in our justification.
  • apollo
    apollo 7 February 2014 23: 51
    0
    judging by the ransoms to my question to agitators from the gas industry about those who are ready to stand under arms if they come from the military registration and enlistment office, I realized that no one, it's you guys sitting in front of the screen with a seagull, it's cold and damp in the trench, plus they can shoot your head
    because no one said YES I GO !!! Again, as always, the flood from the storerooms ...
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  • apollo
    apollo 8 February 2014 00: 35
    +1
    By the way, everyone with the Olympics !!!
  • apollo
    apollo 8 February 2014 00: 36
    +1
    opa and about minus one comment deleted ... promptly
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 8 February 2014 00: 49
      0
      Quote: apollo
      opa and about minus one comment deleted ... promptly

      1. With this very comment you are trying to mislead forum visitors.
      2. Your comment carries the semantic load of the flood.
      3. In the letter to you in PM, I clearly indicated the nature of the violation you committed, indicating the paragraph, an excerpt from the Rules of VO.
      4. What is not clear to you ?!
      1. apollo
        apollo 8 February 2014 00: 51
        0
        ca
        agitprom again minus that the guys pricked his eyes ... will it?
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        2. pawel57
          pawel57 8 February 2014 10: 31
          0
          I answered you, read dear, laziness will repeat
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          1. pawel57
            pawel57 8 February 2014 11: 57
            -1
            I wrote not in Azerbaijan, but in short. the robot immediately rules
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  • alone
    alone 8 February 2014 01: 02
    0
    does the monologue continue?))
  • beifall
    beifall 8 February 2014 06: 57
    -2
    There will be no war !!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • equity
    equity 9 February 2014 05: 42
    +1
    Mndaaaa, there are many drawbacks to the Azerbaijani side, why would it be, because Armenia is a member of the Collective Security Treaty Organization or because the Armenians are Christians hmm, it’s not fair ... because Nagorno-Karabakh has been the original territory of Azerbaijan since ancient times! Armenians as arrogant as Jews ... captured foreign territories!