Wounded "berkutovets" about Yatsenyuk, Yanukovych, murders and stripping of the Maidan

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Wounded "berkutovets" about Yatsenyuk, Yanukovych, murders and stripping of the MaidanSeveral thousand attack aircraft without ideology, or rather with the Nazi ideology, relying on opposition media, turn Ukraine into a country of war.

Ukraine is divided into two sides of the barricades, and not into power and opposition. While the television picture produces new heroes from attack aircraft, who have caught courage in the fight against everyone, dozens of wounded soldiers with terrible burns, injuries from metal pipes and bolt-on explosives, are in the hospital of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

They do not notice the opposition media. “So many were willing to interview, and no one comes,” - the first thing the fighter of the special unit “Berkut” tells me when I went to his hospital. He has been a week for treatment. Sensibly limping. “It happened last Sunday, on Grushevskogo. I hear a buzz - an explosion ... fell ... ", - he explains and asks me not to call his name.

- Are you afraid?

- We are forbidden to communicate with the press.

- Why did you call me?

- I want people to hear my truth.

I don’t understand what kind of strength a petard should have in order to knock down a “berkutovtsy” in full uniform, a man of about forty under two meters tall, whose width is impressive. The face is calm, but in the eyes of read deadly fatigue. Communicating, I for myself refute the most recent of the offenses of opposition leaders in relation to the security forces. My companion is smart. No matter how much the people's deputy of Ukraine Lesia Orobets would like this, the soldier of the “Berkut” is smart and logical.

"How is it in the country?", - asks the Berkutovets. “All the same,” I replied, we are walking along the hospital corridor in search of a quiet place to talk. I was scared: towards the guy years 20, who has almost half of his face in burns. “There are a lot of people like that here,” the Berkutovets catches my fleeting numbness.

- Who are you standing for? - we sit down, start a conversation.

- For the legitimately elected power. Viktor Yanukovych is the legitimate president. After all, what is the security forces? They ensure the security of the country. Take, for example, the United States. Is there no security forces who protect the state and the government - local, regional, state?

- You are not embarrassed by the discontent of the people with legitimate authority?

“We have nothing against the protests.” But the protests must take place legally! Why the opposition does not hold fees in cities, enterprises, advertising its candidate? I am more than sure that including many fighters of the “Berkut” would make their choice of 29 March 2015 of the year in their favor. The police are also people, we are not satisfied with much, we are waiting for a change. But we are not waiting for coups.

We are distracted by the doctor, who is passing through the hall, asking to speak more quietly. At this time, the caller pulls a phone out of his checkered pajamas pocket. “I'll show you a video now. I filmed 1 December during the storming of the Presidential Administration, ”he pulls me the phone, warning in advance that I will not be able to take the record with me. On the ground lies a man, handcuffed. He is not alone. On the side - stacks of bits, iron pipes, brass knuckles, knives. It does not touch me, recently got used. Puzzled a bundle of money. “In his pockets he had 15 thousand hryvnia. Filmed not only me, but also several journalists. True, for some reason they didn’t show it, ”the interlocutor’s face became hard.

“What channels do you watch?” - trying to catch the mood. “5 channel and 1 + 1 in recent times do not look fundamentally. Lies and bias. "

- We were transferred to Kiev in mid-November. I was 30 in November on the Independence Square, but did not participate in the operation. It was December 1 near the Presidential Administration. I was wounded at Hrushevsky. It's a shame when they make you an enemy of the people. The policeman is not a provocateur. The policeman is legally inviolable by law. For some reason, the television did not bother to show how November 30 threw glass jars of peas into our faces, beat them with sticks and bats. No one has shown that the clash began through no fault of the “Berkut”, but when there was a threat to people. “Golden Eagle” then applied force only to provocateurs. However, nobody cares about that. To hell with the fact that one of ours had a liver ruptured on Hrushevsky, another one was shot with pneumatics! He became disabled!

- You are accused of deliberately beating journalists.

- Yes, it's funny! I am silent about the fact that journalists have long crossed the line. When 1 December went ahead, one of them started shouting: “I’m a journalist, don’t touch!”. And then he put the camera on the ground, took a stone and hit a soldier moving next to his head. Can this journalist be called an extremist?

- Is the Golden Eagle integral?

- I understood what you mean. Going to the side of the opposition is excluded. There is a legitimately elected president - it does not matter, good or bad, but he is. Today we are called Yatsenyuk "let's go", and tomorrow - Vasya and Petya, and we have to go again?
The "Berkut" defended all presidents and, I hasten to remind you, the same politicians who are now eager for power.

- Why are “Berkutovtsy” fired in Lviv?

- Many of them are my old friends. First, those who are already of retirement age are dismissed. Secondly, you will never be told by independent media that their families are being bullied. Here's what to do when you're in Kiev, and thugs break in through the door to the spouse and give ultimatums?

- If Yatsenyuk was a conditional president, would you defend him?

- If Yatsenyuk becomes president in such a way, I will resign. Dissolve the special unit "Cobra" for some finger? .. His current road is covered with blood.

A doctor comes up to us the second time and asks to move away from the wards with the sick. I again meet in the corridor a few soldiers of internal troops with burned faces. “Why will none of the journalists take permission from the head physician and come to shoot the wounded? - surprised "berkutovets." - Video with a naked detainee remember? Do you think it was specially stripped? No, they are all saturated with flammable substances. Why was a fireman walking behind the back with a fire extinguisher? And what if someone throws a petard - then you do not quench it. So it is better to hold 5-10 for minutes in the cold or risk burning, which security officials will undoubtedly blame. ... And what did he have in his hands? Sapper shovel, with which he broke the helmet of a child from internal troops. The guy is in the hospital, the “hero” is at liberty, he is interviewed. Nobody needs this truth ... ”

- how weapons do you use?

“Look, we were even ordered to take off the holsters!” Flash-noise grenades have several times less power than firecrackers, which are tied to bolts and stones, and then thrown in our direction. A rubber bullet of the sample, which received, no danger to human life is not.

“Yes, but you are credited with murder.”

- We have no firearms. And during the meetings never happened. Politicians wanted blood - they got it

I look at the interlocutor, the mimicry of his face quickens, he shifts from foot to foot. Murder charges hooked. And perhaps, the understanding that he is unlikely to believe someone.

- Why do they hate you?

- And which dog loves the stick? In America, the police are smiling, but they hate behind their backs

- There are rumors on the Internet about the different amount of the promised bonus - from salary increase on 700 hryvnia to 15 000 dollars, if the power is held back. Specify the amount so that we have reliable information that will not harm your honor.

- will you have such data? No bonuses, I get paid, I stand for the state. Here are the radicals that threaten our lives and health, get good money. But again, this is unprovable.

- They say that the “Berkut” will have enough 5-10 minutes to clear the Maidan.

- 10 minutes? Not. Minutes 30-40. What is most important? Catch the ringleaders. But those who call, unfortunately, the fastest and run away. Paradox: the police use truncheons here, we enter into tactile contact, and this is never allowed in Europe. They use special equipment and weapons. So let's integrate into Europe, starting with the application of European practice during the rallies!

- And the barricades?

- Props. We are all trained fighters, most of them are former sportsmen participating in anti-terrorist operations ...

- What happened to Ukraine in 10 years, since the Orange Revolution?

- Politicians change people. In 2004, I could quietly come to Independence Square without fearing for my life.

- Are you scared?

- I will defend the family with all legal means ... Do you think that there are no Yatsenyuk, Tyagnibok or German Klitschko addresses on the Internet? They all need to understand that a response can follow if something happens to our families.

- Are there any misunderstandings in relation to commanders who do not give an order?

- What is the order? Law? Orders are not discussed. However, we will never shoot at peaceful people.

“But the protesters are doing whatever they want with you.”

- They do not spit in me, but in the state. We would like changes in the country - we would vote in the elections as we see fit.

- Do you believe politicians?

- No longer. Do you think it was easy for me to break myself to stay in the bodies when Yanukovych came? Now someone offers me a specific plan of action? Yanukovych for 4 did not bring the country out of the crisis, and I definitely will not vote for him. But for Yatsenyuk, whose hands are in blood, I will not vote either. Faster go to the polls and tear the newsletter.

- Well, if Yatsenyuk becomes president in the next election?

- So we will protect. We chose our job.

At this time, the interlocutor rings the phone. The conversation is interrupted for a few minutes: he explains to someone that he is in hospital. I have time to peer into the face of a man whom my dear colleague, Daniel Yanevsky, called the Einsatzgroup fighter. He notices this, responding with a look in his eyes.

- We will stand as long as necessary. Week, month, year.
- Where do you live?

- In the Cabinet of Ministers.

- How long are the fighters on the front line?

- Enough to have a good rest later.

- When was the last time you saw your family?

- More than a month ago. Wife does not even know that I am in the hospital.

This concludes the interview. "Berkutovets" conducts me to the exit, asks to convey to all journalists to be at least a little more objective, looking on the other side of the barricades.

In parting, I respectfully shake hands with a man whom many of my acquaintances are ready to lynch. World has gone mad!
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  1. +148
    29 January 2014 08: 46
    They all need to understand that a response can follow if something happens to our families.


    Completely on the side of the Berkutian, I’ll do the same with any gangster who encroaches on my family, without regard to the LAW.
    1. +62
      29 January 2014 09: 23
      No need to wait until it happens. These are ordinary criminals. And appropriate measures are needed for them.
      1. +42
        29 January 2014 10: 43
        It amazes me (once again) the cowardly position of our authorities! Putin throughout the world declares that we will not interfere in the situation in Ukraine, we will not support anyone, we will not withdraw our loans if the opposition comes to power. At the same time, Obama declares full support for the anti-government forces of Ukraine. About the fact that all Western and Amersky trash squeals about this from the beginning of the conflict and adds fuel to the fire it is said a thousand times!
        Why can not we support our interests in Ukraine?
        In my Soviet youth, we instilled a sense of modesty. It was a shame to be arrogant and selfish. The interests of society have always been placed above personal interests.
        I have a feeling that our Power is shyly standing on the sidelines and is afraid of being accused of "personal interest", while our sworn friends are not at all embarrassed in their choice of words and means.
        If Putin declares to the whole world that we are interested in maintaining order in Ukraine. That power should change as a result of elections, not pogroms. That we will not lend to bandits.
        What will happen?
        I think that will inspire respect! After all, we were able to do this in Syria!
        Stop being "tolerant"! It must be getting brutal! After all, the symbol of Russia is the Russian bear, not the hare!
        1. +8
          29 January 2014 11: 01
          I completely agree, Putin’s speech yesterday disappointed without measure. We must defend our interests despite the stench of competitors. The only way I can justify it a bit is that he wants peace of mind at the Olympics.
        2. acute
          -11
          29 January 2014 11: 17
          Each time, Putin's statements are getting smoother. He is afraid to irritate the West with harsh statements. They pressed him slowly but surely. "Partners" fuck him through the media and he loses
          1. +32
            29 January 2014 11: 32
            The Nazis failed to completely shed Ukrainian pro-Russian power on their own.

            Now they are trying to inflame dissatisfaction with the authorities with information throws in those who defend the country from the Nazi plague so that the defenders can throw off the Ukrainian authorities with their own hands and do what the Nazis themselves lack


            Very reminiscent of Goebels propaganda at the front among our fighters.

            Our grandfathers did not fall for her.

            Now the word is ours. Who is ready to doubt, hate their own, and thereby take the side of the enemy?

            Ukraine is not at war with a handful of Nazis and football fans. Ukraine is opposed to the whole West, which operate at the hands of the Ukronazists. This trash is an advanced consumable. If we respond to them in full force (overfishing and replanting), we will find our meager forces, and then heavy artillery will strike us (they will announce sanctions, arrest the accounts of Ukrainian enterprises (do not care about oligarchs), impose an embargo, collapse the Ukrainian currency and economy) .
            1. +36
              29 January 2014 12: 40
              Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
              If we respond to them in full force (overfishing and replanting), we will find our meager forces, and then heavy artillery will strike us (they will announce sanctions, arrest the accounts of Ukrainian enterprises (do not care about oligarchs), impose an embargo, collapse the Ukrainian currency and economy) .

              This is why Putin does not threaten sanctions. Putin is generally a concrete man, why shake the air in vain? As an example, I will cite the atrocities in Japan on the "Northern Territories Day", when our flags were burned and dirt was thrown at the embassy, ​​there was no need to answer the calls to appease the thugs. Then a pair of Tu95s with nuclear weapons on board just flew around Japan, made a rustle in the minds of the hawks and silence. Nobody mocks our flag anymore. By the way, flights have become regular. This technique was applied to Sweden and even to the United States, when our ships and submarines went there.
              1. tryphon
                +2
                31 January 2014 23: 04
                Why not fly around Ukraine?
            2. +8
              29 January 2014 18: 09
              Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
              The Nazis failed to completely shed Ukrainian pro-Russian power on their own.

              Now they are trying to inflame dissatisfaction with the authorities with information throws in those who defend the country from the Nazi plague so that the defenders can throw off the Ukrainian authorities with their own hands and do what the Nazis themselves lack


              Italy legalizes pedophilia and introduces prison sentences for "pedophobes" for discriminating against pedophiles, Italian media reported on January 24, 2014. In addition to “pedophobes”, the prison now threatens in Italy “sodomophobes”, “corpse-haters”, “transphobes”, “hermaphroditophobes” - only 13 types of “gender phobes”. Now all those who criticize sexual perversion in Italy face a fine of up to 20000 euros.

              Source: http://politikus.ru/events/11825-italiya-legalizuet-pedofiliyu-i-nakazyvaet-borc
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              Politikus.ru


              Here it is the secret dream of the Maydauns.
              I hope not the people of Ukraine.
              1. +9
                29 January 2014 23: 22
                "Italy legalizes pedophilia and ..."

                It's funny to hear our worst curse word at Euromaidan - pida..sy !, which flies like a flock of birds overhead. Do our European "partners" know that their "worthy" ones are despised by everyone from school, including those who are eager to go to Europe or consider themselves European? And even those who have convinced themselves of the positiveness of this "natural phenomenon" and recognize their rights, yell - pid..sy at an extreme degree of irritation.
              2. tryphon
                +1
                31 January 2014 23: 06
                Sodom and Gomorrah
          2. +59
            29 January 2014 12: 34
            Losing what? According to my impressions, victory after victory with Putin recently.

            What is the use of Obama's harsh remarks? McCain? Holland? English premiere? What was the result?

            As for the situation in Ukraine: Putin said what he should have. I do not see a manifestation of weakness. Consider:
            1. On the inadmissibility of foreign intervention in the affairs of Ukraine said? - said it!
            2. About double standards of Europe said? - said it!
            3. He said that Russia is not going to intervene and support Yanukovych too. So what? He said everything correctly, because:
            a) to send troops there means giving occasion to send troops to Ukraine to other countries.
            b) Yanukovych as president does not represent value at all. Because when he was elected, he promised to get closer to Russia - he deceived and trampled into Europe. Bandera also dismissed and did not control. After he gave back from the association and ran to Putin. Putin gave him money, delayed the payment of gas, and he received the money and sang the old song again, that this money would be spent on preparing Ukraine for the association. Betrayal again? So after the riots began, he also turned out to be a coward - he could not give an order to restore order, he was afraid that he would be considered a dictator. So what is the value of Yanukovych for Russia?

            We summarize: Putin said that it is important for Russia to help the PEOPLE of Ukraine, the way it is. I do not understand dissatisfaction with Putin.
            1. GDP
              +7
              29 January 2014 14: 25
              What I do not like about the reaction of the authorities to the events in Ukraine:
              1. Unconditional granting of loans regardless of the choice of Ukraine in favor of or against the interests of Russia.
              2. Inaction of our special services. Ukraine is not Syria. Here we must keep abreast and respond instantly, and preferably in advance.
              What, there are no pro-Russian forces in Ukraine?
              No one to hand over bags of money? What is 100 million $ within Russia? Nothing! Compared to the 15 billions, which were simply thrown there for some reason, it’s just a trifle.
              What can be done for a hundred million bucks in skillful hands, we have already seen ...
              It would be possible to outbid part of the media to provoke protest rallies throughout eastern Ukraine.
              Pull tails to local tycoons who have money or business in Russia.
              Why is none of this being done? Do our government seriously believe that someone will appreciate our kindness?
              What is bad and what is good will be determined by those who remain in power ...
              1. +2
                29 January 2014 15: 01
                And let’s without emotions ...
                Quote: GDP
                1. Unconditional granting of loans regardless of the choice of Ukraine in favor of or against the interests of Russia.

                a) unconditional is only surrender. I have not seen Putin surrender.
                b) Amendment - "UNDER DEPENDENCE ON WHO BECOMES RULING UKRAINE".
                The difference is huge. If you do not understand the essence, then there is no point in writing.

                Quote: GDP
                Inaction of our special services. Ukraine is not Syria.

                And how do you rate it? Should there be daily reports on how many Bandera each agent shot or eliminated in another way?

                Quote: GDP
                It would be possible to outbid part of the media to provoke protest rallies throughout eastern Ukraine.

                You can reasonably tell for what? Are you boiling for the sake of kipish?
                1. GDP
                  +1
                  29 January 2014 15: 49
                  Inaction of our special services. Ukraine is not Syria.

                  And how do you rate it? Should there be daily reports on how many Bandera each agent shot or eliminated in another way?

                  Lack of results is how I rated it. The next orange revolution at their borders again stupidly missed.
                  It would be possible to outbid part of the media to provoke protest rallies throughout eastern Ukraine.

                  You can reasonably tell for what? Are you boiling for the sake of kipish?

                  I argue - but why did you create a boil in the West? To push Ukraine to enter into an association with the EU on its own terms. WE, in turn, had to support pro-Russian forces, naturally so that no one could clearly prove this, even if they all understood this.
                  1. 0
                    29 January 2014 17: 30
                    Quote: GDP
                    Lack of results is how I rated it. The next orange revolution at their borders again stupidly missed.

                    And should Yanukovych disperse the Maidan? Eliminate Yatsenyuk, Klitschko and Tyagnibok? What should our specialists do there specifically?
                    Quote: GDP
                    WE, in turn, had to support pro-Russian forces, naturally so that no one could clearly prove this, even if they all understood this.

                    Who in Ukraine do you consider to be PRO-RUSSIAN? Specifically personality?
                  2. 0
                    30 January 2014 01: 29
                    Quote: GDP
                    Lack of results is how I rated it. The next orange revolution at their borders again stupidly missed.

                    who told you that it was missed?

                    the situation there was pre-orange a year ago, it is difficult to blast the smoldering revolution ...

                    the question was only in preparing the roadmap, that is, those actions that we can and should take ...
              2. Basil123
                +2
                29 January 2014 15: 49
                Do you want to make keirOppu from Russia am am am no and no again am UKRAINE SHOULD HAVE DECIDED ITSELF WITH ITS DIRECTION OF DEVELOPMENT, forget about the Union ....... Crimea will not leave us)) and the rest .... see the attitude of the population towards us .... (((and we need it on the neck ????
            2. +18
              29 January 2014 14: 32
              Losing what? According to my impressions, victory after victory with Putin recently.
              What is the use of Obama's harsh remarks? McCain? Holland? English premiere? What was the result?


              I agree. Here, many at one time did not support Putin when he went with bikers and hanging out. And now the biker community has defended the Crimea.
              That is, who does not chat and groans on the net, but protects his state from Bendery.

            3. rolik
              +15
              29 January 2014 14: 36
              Quote: Xoxo4un
              We summarize: Putin said that it is important for Russia to help the PEOPLE of Ukraine, the way it is. I do not understand dissatisfaction with Putin.

              In recent years, since the arrival of the GDP for a new presidency, it seems that he has very good analysts and forecasters. Everything is very well laid out on the shelves. All steps are well calculated, this is in foreign policy. I do not exclude that everything is already provided for in the situation with Ukraine. Therefore, there are no hysterics. Unlike European and mattress "partners". This calmness can be mistaken for cowardice or fear of taking certain steps. Most of all, a Chinese saying is relevant here:
              - Hurry is to make uniform movements but without stopping.
              1. GDP
                -10
                29 January 2014 14: 48
                I do not exclude that everything is already provided for in the situation with Ukraine.

                And let's ask the question, what will happen if the situation develops as it develops now?
                1. Definitely Ukraine will enter the EU! With all the ensuing consequences (even greater distance from Russia and rapprochement with our potential enemies) - I have no idea what needs to be done to turn it in the other direction.
                2. Ukrainian enterprises, military-industrial complex cultural institutions, will begin to reorient en masse from Russia to the EU - this is a matter of time ...

                Perhaps Putin had one trump ace in stock - this is the deplorable state of the Ukrainian economy. There was a chance that the collapse of the Ukrainian economy would make our brothers think about joining the TS.
                So we ourselves support its economy in order to prevent this. Where is the logic?

                What other trump ace can Putin get out of his pocket? A couple dozen bearded bikers?
                1. +10
                  29 January 2014 15: 11
                  Quote: GDP
                  1. Definitely Ukraine will enter the EU!

                  Why do you think so? She will not be allowed in there for grandmothers. Turkey already 50 years as it enters for example.
                  Quote: GDP
                  . Ukrainian enterprises, military-industrial complex cultural institutions, will begin to reorient en masse from Russia to the EU - this is a matter of time ...

                  Mdya ... Why did you get the idea that EU needs Ukrainian defense industry and enterprises? They are just not needed. They will simply be destroyed. If you do not understand this, then I advise you to read the terms of the association for Ukraine.

                  But with culture, everything will be even more complicated. On the air of Shustev, the leaders of the so-called opposition (even before the riots) could not admit that they were accepting EU homosyak habits. There a whole joke came out. And now they will not agree with outrageous radicals and even more so on cultural issues.

                  Quote: GDP
                  Perhaps Putin had one trump ace in stock - this is the deplorable state of the Ukrainian economy. There was a chance that the collapse of the Ukrainian economy would make our brothers think about joining the TS.
                  So we ourselves support its economy in order to prevent this. Where is the logic?

                  1. She is deplorable now, and then it will be even worse, so he has not gone anywhere.
                  2. And having loaded the enterprises of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex, Putin has several goals:
                  a) accelerate the implementation of the state defense order of the Russian Federation.
                  b) to show both the workers and the Kamers Ukrainian where the grandmother and work will come from. And they clearly choked after the events on the border.
                  1. GDP
                    -9
                    29 January 2014 15: 29
                    Why do you think so? She will not be allowed there (WEIGHT). Turkey already 50 years as it enters for example

                    Associated membership in the EU is the first step, and even if they are not allowed into the EU anyway, they will not be able to join the CU either ...
                    Mdya ... Why did you get the idea that EU needs Ukrainian defense industry and enterprises? They are just not needed. They will simply be destroyed.

                    Yes, that’s exactly how it will be, I partly agree. However, already now many enterprises, for example defense industry, are starting to integrate with enterprises of NATO countries. Already there are joint developments and projects, for example with Poland, orders are coming from the west. This is the beginning, in the future the economy will dictate the approach to the transition to NATO standards. That would be logical.
                    And having loaded the enterprises of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex, Putin has several goals:
                    a) accelerate the implementation of the state defense order of the Russian Federation.
                    b) to show both the workers and the Kamers Ukrainian where the grandmother and work will come from. And they clearly choked after the events on the border.

                    This is an interesting point of view ... Deserves attention ...
                    Well, I don’t feel that relations with Russia in Ukraine somehow changed after that ...
                    Maybe it’s a matter of time, of course ... Only now if it doesn’t have a special impact on the politics of Kiev, what will happen next?
                    1. +3
                      29 January 2014 17: 46
                      Quote: GDP
                      Associated membership in the EU is the first step, and even if they are not allowed into the EU anyway, they will not be able to join the CU either ...

                      This is not the first step - it is simply an economic betrayal of the country. As for the association and TS, there would be political will - there are options. At present, Ukraine has forgotten about the association a long time ago. Now it’s just pogroms, and the association was an occasion. At least in the rhetoric of the opposition, the words about the association have disappeared. There are words about a parliamentary republic, the resignation of the government, the resignation of Yanukovych, elections and more.

                      But there is another side to the coin, namely a loan from the Russian Federation and non-payment for gas. And even if a new government appears, it will become his problem. Putin has a strong lever. Physically, Ukraine cannot be scattered for these debts for a long time, so it will have to wait a long time with Europe.

                      Quote: GDP
                      However, already now many enterprises, for example defense industry, are starting to integrate with enterprises of NATO countries. Already there are joint developments and projects, for example with Poland, orders are coming from the west.

                      Here examples would not hurt, because I didn’t hear about projects beyond screwing bumpers. (I exaggerate about the bumper of course). But seriously, then no one from NATO will ever transfer any technology anywhere to a third country — for military secret. And throughout the west, a problem with unemployment. Against this background, shipping orders to Ukraine is utter nonsense.


                      Quote: GDP
                      This is the beginning, in the future the economy will dictate the approach to the transition to NATO standards. That would be logical.

                      The transition to NATO standards will destroy the Ukrainian military-industrial complex - because it will not stand the standards.
                      Quote: GDP
                      Well, I don’t feel that relations with Russia in Ukraine somehow changed after that ...
                      It may of course be a matter of time ...

                      1. Really time.
                      2. What do you mean by the words "attitude to Russia in Ukraine"? When you concretize, it seems to me that you yourself will answer for me.
                    2. 0
                      30 January 2014 01: 36
                      Quote: GDP
                      However, already now many enterprises, for example defense industry, are starting to integrate with enterprises of NATO countries.

                      they do not integrate, and the unfortunate Sich engine sells engines that we no longer need, to anyone ...

                      there is a difference between integration and sale ... bully
                      1. 0
                        30 January 2014 16: 21
                        Quote: DanaF1
                        and they don’t integrate, and the unfortunate Sich engine sells engines that we no longer need, to anyone ...

                        there is a difference between integration and sale ... bully

                        1. Why Motor Sich is unhappy (the field of activity is simply huge).
                        2. Since when we began to do without their power units.
                      2. +1
                        31 January 2014 00: 41
                        Quote: es.d
                        Why Motor Sich is unhappy (the field of activity is simply huge).

                        not so huge ...
                        you can’t put these engines on Amer’s helicopters, if you don’t buy ours, you just have to supply them for repair to Africa ...
                        Quote: es.d
                        Since when we began to do without their powertrain.

                        from the very same time when the engines for our helicopters began to be produced in Ulyanovsk ... yes, while we are forced to buy a part from a motor sich, but when the Ulyanovsk plant reaches its design capacity ....
                    3. +1
                      30 January 2014 04: 13
                      In 1985 I applied to join the Communist Party of the Soviet Union as a candidate. The party refused me, due to the fact that I was a worker, and the order was for engineers. In 1986, when I was already working as a legal adviser for a fairly large trust, the secretary of the party committee (released) invited me to submit an application, while he said that there would be no problems. To which I replied: "Yuri Petrovich, last year I asked the party to accept me, it refused. Now the party is asking me? But I don’t want to!"
                      So that's Turkey. When asked to join the EU, the EU refused her. And now the EU asks, and Turkey REFUSES! laughing
                      1. +2
                        30 January 2014 09: 36
                        This is when Turkey refused to join? Very interesting?

                        At the last conference of Putin and Erdogan, Putin joked about this topic (that 50 years in the EU do not take). To which Erdogan asked Putin to assist Turkey in joining the SCO. And about what refuses there was no question. Maybe you know a lot more? Share pzhsta ..
                2. olviko
                  +9
                  29 January 2014 16: 04
                  "Let's ask the question, what will happen if the situation develops as it is now?"

                  Come on. Let's start with the fact that the opposition won in the person of Yatsenyuk, Klitschko and Tyagnibok? In case of consent, the "trinity" automatically falls apart, Tyagnibok has already announced
                  automatic transition to the opposition to the government of Yatsenyuk. You can imagine how Rabbit and Boxer will clean the Maidan, free the occupied buildings and streets, because this is the obligation of the opposition. Klitschko has already received from a fire extinguisher, they, admittedly, have already lost control of the Maidan. Even if they succeed, they completely lose credibility, as traitors to the Maidan. If not, then they lose even faster and at all, because they will show their complete helplessness. If Rabbit becomes the prime minister and tries to send Ukraine to the EU, Russia will immediately collapse everything in Ukraine. It simply sells the recently bought Eurobonds of Ukraine on the market, sell them quickly and in large pieces (to which it is entitled any day), and default on Ukraine’s external obligations is guaranteed. Enterprises that have managed to sign the agreement with Russian enterprises will have to fulfill obligations in full with default in default conditions. Or they will simply come under the control of Moscow. And it’s not Yanukovych who’s guilty, but Rabbit. The gas discount, as it turns out, is given only temporarily and requires regular confirmation. And the West has no money for Ukraine and never will. Otherwise, this problem would not have arisen at all, and Ukraine today would have long been in the status of EU vassal. As a result, all that remains for Yatsenyuk is to personally bow to the Kremlin, confirm all the agreements of Yanukovych and beg for money from Putin. This is all in addition to the problems that the Russian side has already voiced before Vilnius.
                  But as a Boxer, in the status of a “humanitarian” Vice Prime Minister will heal today's social problems of the Ukrainian people? Even a genius can’t cope with them, and not like a boxer with broken brains. Changes in the constitution? this is a process that will take many months. During this time, either the donkey will die or the paddies. You can always frustrate agreements with the opposition, arrange a force-based variant of dispersal of the Maidan, in such a situation there is always a reason.
                  1. rolik
                    +4
                    29 January 2014 20: 23
                    Quote: olviko
                    .You can imagine how Rabbit and Boxer will clean the Maidan, liberate the occupied buildings and streets,

                    Interesting kung fu turn out)))) take two ... so to speak. Only in the role of Azarov will BEZYAYTSENYUK, and in the role of Yanukovych - Klitschko. What a mockery of fate, isn't it?
                  2. Viktor1
                    0
                    31 January 2014 15: 54
                    This triple .... (in short, the three-headed little dragon) never had control over the Maidan, they really want it, but the Wishlist is not enough for this.
                3. rolik
                  +4
                  29 January 2014 20: 19
                  Quote: GDP
                  What other trump ace can Putin get out of his pocket?

                  Is it like humor ??? understand ))))
                  What trump cards he can pull out is not known to me or you.
                  So, I advise you to be patient, everything has its time. In the words of the unforgettable Ostap Suleiman Bert Maria Bender Bey: Quickly only cats will be born))))
                  By the way, what did the PM say in Ukraine? Did not hear?? Enough for the government to engage in politics, it’s time to do the economy. And what kind of economy will Ukraine and the EU take up ??? The one that is written in the paragraphs on the association ???? Oh well. Four years later, the same thing will begin as now. Only then will the east of Ukraine do what the west of Ukraine is doing now.
                4. wax
                  0
                  30 January 2014 00: 27
                  There is no trump ace, but the joker should appear. Since it is possible to predict with high probability that neither Yanukovych nor his three barricade opponents will be elected president. True, before the election they will try to change the constitution. What kind of alignment it will bring is unknown.
                5. 0
                  30 January 2014 01: 32
                  Quote: GDP
                  Definitely Ukraine will enter the EU!

                  fool
                  here after this phrase you can no longer read laughing

                  she was not even invited to the EU at all, Turkey has been an associate member for 50 years, and things are still there ...
                6. 0
                  31 January 2014 23: 42
                  GDP / If you have run out of ideas about what needs to be done to turn Ukraine the other way, then sit on the site in silence.
                7. 0
                  1 February 2014 21: 41
                  Perhaps Putin had one trump ace in stock - this is the deplorable state of the Ukrainian economy. There was a chance that the collapse of the Ukrainian economy would make our brothers think about joining the TS.
                  So we ourselves support its economy in order to prevent this. Where is the logic?

                  That is the ace of trumps, in order to economically tie Ukraine to yourself as strong as possible, and it’s not trivial to buy, but to attract mutual benefit to ourselves, both for us Russians and Ukrainians for them.
              2. DMB-78
                +4
                29 January 2014 16: 30
                Quote: rolik
                one gets the feeling that he had very good analysts and forecasters

                Do you think that a personnel intelligence officer, a resident himself cannot calculate further actions? force the enemy to make the wrong moves? a good scout is distinguished by the ability to wait. watch the film "dead season" there the hero of banionis said well on this topic smile
                1. rolik
                  +4
                  29 January 2014 20: 28
                  Quote: DMB-78
                  Do you think that a personnel intelligence officer, a resident himself cannot calculate further actions?

                  I have no doubt, maybe. But to shovel a huge amount of information and compile it all, you need good analytics. And to predict the possible consequences of the many provided branches of the development of events are good programmers. But, of course, the final version of the few remaining, after screening, selects GDP.
            4. +3
              29 January 2014 15: 58
              Everything that is being said and done now is for Ukrainian heads and ears. Therefore, it is important to know what ordinary Ukrainians see and what conclusions they draw. Therefore, a more serious information program for Ukraine is needed. So that these guys, Berkut, know that now they are behind the integrity of Ukraine, the fate of their families. It is worth seeing, as they show on "1 + 1", that half-witted grandmothers with the inscription "MAMA" approach the rows and persuade them to drop their weapons. How were they allowed to pass through three lines of barricades, through which not even all maydauns are allowed ???
            5. acute
              -2
              29 January 2014 16: 47
              He said, said, but what's the point. Everything goes according to the American scenario. You can talk as much as you want. but to not do it ....
              1. gorge1945
                +4
                29 January 2014 17: 57
                But this is true. The whole booze in Ukraine is planned in the USA and its vassals i.e. EU
                The calculation was on the possible intervention of Russia, the response would be the entry of NATO into the territory of Ukraine. Putin behaved calmly at a press conference as a leader who knows his own worth, which cannot be said about EU representatives
                whose confidence and calm rhetoric of Putin acts on them like a red rag on a bull.
                1. acute
                  0
                  31 January 2014 11: 08
                  You have an overexcitation in my opinion. What troops, where, who will introduce ?. It’s good that managers have less imagination
            6. 0
              29 January 2014 17: 14
              I agree! In principle, he made it clear that there is another side to the coin, and delicacy is still probably a necessary measure, to become prematurely inflamed ...
            7. 0
              29 January 2014 17: 14
              I agree! In principle, he made it clear that there is another side to the coin, and delicacy is still probably a necessary measure, to become prematurely inflamed ...
          3. 0
            29 January 2014 13: 14
            It was easy to squeeze, all the savings (looted) are stored in the states or western banks. Partners do not stand on ceremony and at any moment freeze the accounts of our gentlemen. We have long been owned by our so-called partners.
            1. 0
              30 January 2014 01: 47
              Quote: Nicola
              We have long belonged to our so-called partners.

              and not vice versa?
              and if we throw off all bonds?
              1. acute
                0
                31 January 2014 11: 11
                What bonds? where to throw ?. Who are we? Do you have a bond warehouse at home?
              2. acute
                0
                31 January 2014 11: 15
                What bonds? where to throw it? Who are we? Do you have a bond warehouse at home?
          4. +7
            29 January 2014 13: 47
            Quote: akut
            Each time, Putin’s remarks are becoming smoother.

            I learned from the Chinese what can be agreed and done in my own way.
          5. +1
            29 January 2014 13: 47
            Quote: akut
            Each time, Putin’s remarks are becoming smoother.

            I learned from the Chinese what can be agreed and done in my own way.
            1. acute
              -1
              29 January 2014 16: 57
              May they not be allowed to do their own thing. Money of our oligarchs, and deputies in Western banks
              1. +3
                29 January 2014 17: 51
                Quote: akut
                May they not be allowed to do their own thing. Money of our oligarchs, and deputies in Western banks

                Putin's money is here. And life after the presidency directly depends on the strength of Russia. Gorbachev’s sweet life does not shine for him. And throwing Ukraine at the mercy of fate is like death. Surely something is being done. I believe in it.
                1. acute
                  0
                  29 January 2014 22: 45
                  I wish I could believe that. But how do you know where Putin’s money is? From where they much depends. I think the reserve fund was conceived for a reason
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                  2. +1
                    30 January 2014 01: 49
                    Quote: akut
                    But how do you know where Putin’s money is?

                    brain, he is in order to think ...

                    Well, where do you think Putin will be met with his money as a dear guest, given how many nasty things he did the USA and the EU?
                    do you really think that they are waiting for him? fool
                    1. acute
                      0
                      31 January 2014 10: 43
                      That's right, in order to think, not to invent
                  3. 0
                    30 January 2014 16: 32
                    Quote: akut
                    I wish I could believe that. But how do you know where Putin’s money is? From where they much depends. I think the reserve fund was conceived for a reason

                    Modern money is in computers (in other people's computers). Turned off the light - the money was gone. Putin is not a fool, I hope not to dispute this. If Putin is "revealed to be a" bloody Dictator, "the lights will be turned off. The Reserve Fund is a Tribute. The Anglo-Saxon Yoke.
                    1. acute
                      +1
                      31 January 2014 10: 46
                      Do you think that his money is in his name? How simple you are. People come up with such schemes, and you "turned off the computer and the money disappeared." You gotta be smarter
                      1. 0
                        31 January 2014 16: 54
                        And what's the difference, in whose name the money lies. The switch is still not with us. Is the example of Cyprus not indicative for you? And Putin's money will be calculated at once. Now, financial and industrial espionage is perfect. Yes, no spies - various "bulk" and traitors, hurrying to sell at least something - enough.
          6. +6
            29 January 2014 14: 25
            They pressed him slowly but surely. "Partners" fuck him through the media and he loses


            Another delirium. "Pressed", "gouged".
            This is a foreign policy, and not a collective farm named after Lenin, and gorlopanstvo and whooperosity at the meeting will not understand. You blame Putin. And what have you personally done for the country that you blame the person who leads the largest power for a third term?
            The same defeatist-moaning Natsiks in Western Ukraine lost, because instead of opposing them, they blame the authorities.
            But serious people were found in the East and South of Ukraine, and not defeatists, and they repulse the Rugul. And you, as before, wound your snot on your fist on the Internet.
            1. acute
              -9
              29 January 2014 17: 16
              31231 This is why you are so brave. And I would wrap you snot, but you only hid behind a nickname. and in general advice: be careful with unfamiliar people
          7. +14
            29 January 2014 14: 40
            And this is for you, so that the snot on the monitor is not smeared that Ukraine is lost. Remember, the winner is not the one who throats more and pours money, but the one on whose side the truth is.
            1. GDP
              +2
              29 January 2014 14: 58
              Something is invisible in Kiev, of any serious opposition of the opposition and even extremists and Nazis.
              At least in the media, and even ours would definitely not have missed this ...
              1. +3
                29 January 2014 16: 03
                Well, Moscow doesn’t support Putin too, judging by the television.
                1. +4
                  30 January 2014 01: 53
                  Quote: Rods
                  Well, Moscow doesn’t support Putin too, judging by the television.

                  we have in Moscow a lot of all kinds of people ... strangers ...
                  1. Viktor1
                    +2
                    31 January 2014 15: 59
                    It's like in Ukraine depending on which channel to watch.
              2. +1
                29 January 2014 19: 59
                Quote: GDP
                The people of Syria and Libya have already decided their own destiny ... Shall we wait for the same in Ukraine? But in the first and second cases, civil war could have been avoided.

                This is the first time I’ll write a phrase that the people of Ukraine are not Syria and not Libya. Although in a different context, I think the opposite. But the people are beginning to realize what a revolution can lead to.
                And to find out what they’re thinking about, don’t need to watch their engaged TV channels, read the websites of the cities of the East and South of Ukraine.
                1. +1
                  30 January 2014 04: 28
                  Ball, you are a dunce. For, to know the objective picture, you need to WATCH ALL! And then "filter" the husk (independently), that is, work as a "gray matter", which you should have in the container between the ears. And if you only eat there, then there are no questions. fool
              3. 0
                30 January 2014 01: 57
                Take a closer look at the resistance in the Kiev region, and the city itself is indicated as captured by the Nazis, but this is not for long)
            2. 0
              29 January 2014 22: 54
              Can you explain why the Transcarpathian region is different from the rest of the Galician? What is the reason for this?
              1. +2
                30 January 2014 01: 54
                Quote: Docent1984
                Can you explain why the Transcarpathian region is different from the rest of the Galician? What is the reason for this?

                but not there Rusyns live?
                1. +2
                  30 January 2014 01: 59
                  As well as Hungarians, Romanians, Russians, Belarusians and, of course, Ukrainians. But Transcarpathia will not let the fascists go!
                2. +1
                  30 January 2014 10: 05
                  I confess that I am not strong in this matter. I have never traveled to those lands, even the deceased great-grandfather said - "The Westerners live behind the Dnieper, for us they are enemies worse than the Germans." As far as I remember, all these lands used to be Galicia and became part of the USSR only in the 39th. It seemed to me that they were all smeared with the same world. I am pleasantly surprised that it is not so. Can someone elaborate on the topic in more detail? People are interested.
            3. 0
              29 January 2014 22: 54
              Can you explain why the Transcarpathian region is different from the rest of the Galician? What is the reason for this?
            4. 0
              30 January 2014 01: 49
              Poltava must be recaptured (((
          8. 0
            30 January 2014 04: 01
            Putin is a "quiet guy", he does everything right. I didn't talk too much about Syria either. Moreover, it was easier there: the United Nations vetoed goodbye America, and with Ukraine it is more difficult. It is better to "quietly" slowly, but do your job. hi
          9. lapo32
            0
            31 January 2014 14: 46
            in the information, you will go against those scumbags on the Maidan, with bare hands, release your son ... For the sake of what, what do we need there
        3. olviko
          +20
          29 January 2014 11: 25
          "Putin declares to the whole world that we will not interfere in the situation in Ukraine, we will not support anyone, we will not withdraw our loans if the opposition comes to power."

          Well, you probably need to understand the difference between statements for the whole world, on the commitment to democracy, friendship, fraternity and world peace, and real affairs that are not advertised. If you take Syria, then Putin and Lavrov only said that they did not support Assad, but they just want to make peace. If it was so in reality, Assad, I think I would already be hanging on some kind of palm tree, and scumbags would eat his liver. According to the information available from Kiev, virtually all the functions of protecting state security and the constitutional system of Ukraine were undertaken by the FSB brigades in Kiev. Now in the capital there is an active confrontation between Russian and Western special services. The SBU in the framework of the situation turned out to be completely incompetent. Despite the fact that ordinary operating personnel were aware of preparations for the rebellion a few months before it began, the SBU authorities did not react to such information in any way. The bosses are still afraid to give orders (this is a complete failure of the personnel policy of the "regionals"). The staff of the SBU is demoralized and during the night shifts it is only collectively “thumping.” I don’t know, probably this cannot be attributed to the entire SBU, there are always people who honor their duty, but apparently there are such facts. accusations of cowardice.
          http://imperiya.by/
        4. +6
          29 January 2014 11: 28
          There is only one answer - the Olympics! Now Putin will emerge, and it is not known what will happen to the Olympics. So his hands are now tied, and even if he will sit back after the Olympics, then only one thing can be said - he is weak and afraid to go against the EU and the USA!
          1. +13
            29 January 2014 12: 42
            he opted against them in Syria, so he’s no longer afraid, just sometimes the games are so subtle that they can not be seen with the naked eye.
            1. acute
              -3
              29 January 2014 22: 48
              The same thing again. you wishful thinking
              1. 0
                30 January 2014 01: 56
                Quote: akut
                The same thing again. you wishful thinking

                don't blame the mirror ...

                in psychology there is such a thing called transfer ...
                this is when their thoughts and emotions are attributed to others ...

                along the way, you are doing this ...
          2. 0
            29 January 2014 16: 54
            Quote: starshina78
            There is only one answer - the Olympics! Now Putin will emerge, and it is not known what will happen to the Olympics.

            With your lips and honey to drink. Then there will be a World Championship. Shaw - again?
        5. optimist
          -30
          29 January 2014 12: 14
          Quote: Polovec
          Putin throughout the world declares that we will not intervene in the situation in Ukraine, we will not support anyone, we will not withdraw our loans

          Did you hope to hear something else ??? Vovan does what his western masters say. Plus the fear for your favorite "limpiyad". If only he twitches, the whole world will clean up this Sochi bacchanalia. I have a big suspicion (IMHO) that after 7.02. the situation in Ukraine will generally get out of control and NATO "peacekeepers" will enter there. And Vova will "blow bubbles" ... According to various sources, the Americans and the Germans "pumped" about 5 billion dollars into the Ukrainian bouza. And these kids are not used to throwing their money down the drain. After Ukraine failed to be peacefully drawn into bondage to Europe, "Plan B" was launched. And our "urya-patriots" have already begun to praise the "great and sagacious" ... Relax: the "game" has just begun.
          1. +16
            29 January 2014 12: 43
            tell how his western masters ordered him not to surrender Syria and beat the Georgians.
            I'm sooooooooo interested, now you’ll probably tell me so much information, truthful information, I crave impatience with details.
          2. +7
            29 January 2014 15: 40
            Quote: optimist
            Vovan does what his Western masters say.

            Quote: optimist
            After Ukraine failed to be peacefully drawn into bondage to Europe, "Plan B" was launched.

            Why failed? "Vovan" interfered? But what about "doing what they say"?
          3. -1
            30 January 2014 04: 34
            Alexey! You seem to be an adult (it's too late for an abortion), and you write such nonsense - "NATO peacekeepers" will "enter" fool A normal person thinks at first, and then speaks or writes, and you? I pass your comment. negative
        6. +6
          29 January 2014 12: 40
          But didn’t you think that Putin knows something that you don’t know?
          o too calm, it means that he knows what will happen and that it will "be" according to his scenario, even if outwardly it looks like a defeat. although there is no question of defeat.
          1. optimist
            -17
            29 January 2014 13: 21
            Quote: just explo
            But didn’t you think that Putin knows something that you don’t know?

            Firstly, do not "poke" me: we did not drink on the broodreschaft. Secondly, I judge the actions of our "guarantor" not by the laudatory odes of the putinoids, but by the real "exhaust". And this "exhaust" is very meager. Let's keep quiet about Georgia: their "galtukoed" successfully reigned and dumped to the masters in the United States, no one answered for this "war", and Russia hung on its neck the next freeloaders in the form of Ossetia and Abkhazia. In Syria, everything is also far from finished and ambiguous. And the Americans at any time can roll out another "present", forgetting about the XO. And the Ukrainian "party" is just beginning to play out. So, as the Ukrainians say, "don't say gop ..". I agree that there is very much we do not know and will never know. But looking at the internal politics of your "idol" in economics, nat. the issue of migration, attitudes towards his fellow stool-mates and many other things, a strong impression is created that this is clearly a "sent Cossack".
            1. -7
              29 January 2014 14: 39
              I agree. The exhaust is not very scarce, but it does not exist at all. I already wrote that for 14 years of the golden reign, at exorbitant oil prices, we received only the parent NAKAPITAL.
              1. +10
                29 January 2014 15: 16
                Well, to get something else, try to get a job. Indeed, our support for parasites is not as democratic as in the USA. What to do? - Cost of authoritarianism ...
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                  1. +11
                    29 January 2014 17: 58
                    Quote: IOwTZ
                    Perhaps the "costs of authoritarianism"?

                    Rather, the costs of capitalism.
                    Quote: IOwTZ
                    at the given time, I need housing, the average salary in the region (CFD) from 27 to 40 thousand / rubles / month. How to buy an apartment (mortgage 15-18% as in Africa, nahui)?

                    Does Africa have interest rate subsidy programs? Young family programs? + You unloved "maternity capital"? and other gesheft in the style of free land for 3 children?

                    Ah-ah-ah-ah, let me guess, probably in the west of enlightenment all working immediately bought himself a cheap apartment and do not live a lifetime taking flats for rent?

                    What specifically is dissatisfied with? The fact that with one salary you can’t buy a hut? Or what they don’t give for free? Let me remind you, they used to give it, but someone wanted sneakers and democracy ...
                    1. -1
                      29 January 2014 18: 41
                      Quote: Xoxo4un
                      Does Africa have interest rate subsidy programs? Young family programs? + You unloved "maternity capital"? and other gesheft in the style of free land for 3 children?


                      Maternal capital is a plus. I will not comment further, emptiness. Offer it to those who have already taken advantage of this noose.

                      Quote: Xoxo4un
                      Ah-ah-ah-ah, let me guess, probably in the west of enlightenment all working immediately bought himself a cheap apartment and do not live a lifetime taking flats for rent?


                      Guessing is not necessary, I will prompt. Buy normal apartments at a mortgage rate of 1,5-2,0%.

                      Quote: Xoxo4un
                      What specifically is dissatisfied with? The fact that with one salary you can’t buy a hut? Or what they don’t give for free? Let me remind you, they used to give it, but someone wanted sneakers and democracy ...


                      I'm not complaining about Life. I really want the "man of the year" and his team to work not for Uncle Sam, but for Uncle Vanya. Here on a parallel thread in the article "Forecast of Russia's development until 2030" read the comments.
                      1. +5
                        29 January 2014 19: 10
                        Quote: IOwTZ

                        Maternal capital is a plus. I will not comment further, emptiness. Offer it to those who have already taken advantage of this noose.


                        Quote: IOwTZ
                        Guessing is not necessary, I will prompt. Buy normal apartments at a mortgage rate of 1,5-2,0%.


                        The answer is incorrect.
                        For example, for the same Germany, the mortgage is 3-5% and then provided that you have 50% of the amount.
                        Woo-ala http://www.rufaltd.com/articles/rinok_nedvizhimosti_i_ipoteka

                        Similarly France:
                        http://www.richard-immo.com/ipotechniy_credit.html

                        So it goes well with our mortgage with interest rate subsidies. Y stands in the region of 6%
                        It doesn’t differ much, so in vain you want our country.

                        Quote: IOwTZ
                        I'm not complaining about Life. I really want the "man of the year" and his team to work not for Uncle Sam, but for Uncle Vanya.

                        Believe it or not, he is working for him. Uncle Sam "indignant" ...


                        Quote: IOwTZ
                        "Forecast of Russia's development up to 2030" read the comments.

                        On the fence, too, they just won’t write ...
                      2. 0
                        29 January 2014 19: 56
                        Quote: Xoxo4un
                        Quote: IOwTZ

                        Maternal capital is a plus. I will not comment further, emptiness. Offer it to those who have already taken advantage of this noose.


                        Quote: IOwTZ
                        Guessing is not necessary, I will prompt. Buy normal apartments at a mortgage rate of 1,5-2,0%.


                        The answer is incorrect.
                        For example, for the same Germany, the mortgage is 3-5% and then provided that you have 50% of the amount.
                        Woo-ala http://www.rufaltd.com/articles/rinok_nedvizhimosti_i_ipoteka

                        Similarly France:
                        http://www.richard-immo.com/ipotechniy_credit.html

                        So it goes well with our mortgage with interest rate subsidies. Y stands in the region of 6%
                        It doesn’t differ much, so in vain you want our country.

                        Quote: IOwTZ
                        I'm not complaining about Life. I really want the "man of the year" and his team to work not for Uncle Sam, but for Uncle Vanya.

                        Believe it or not, he is working for him. Uncle Sam "indignant" ...


                        Quote: IOwTZ
                        "Forecast of Russia's development up to 2030" read the comments.

                        On the fence, too, they just won’t write ...


                        "They won't write anything on the fence either"
                      3. +1
                        29 January 2014 22: 05
                        Quote: IOwTZ

                        "They won't write anything on the fence either"

                        Well, when there is nothing to answer, then you can answer that way. You could just not answer once blown away ...
                      4. acute
                        +1
                        29 January 2014 22: 56
                        this is where you found a mortgage for 6%
                      5. +1
                        30 January 2014 09: 02
                        You draw up a mortgage, something around 15%, then you draw up documents to include you in the interest rate subsidy program (for example, under the "young family" program) at the expense of the state, and as a result, the borrower himself has to pay the loan body + about 6%.

                        In general, the program of a young family can be regional and sometimes federal. Accordingly, regional differences. Earlier, grandmas were given for these programs, now it seems that basically they subsidize interest. But I still judge by my region.
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                      9. 0
                        30 January 2014 11: 43
                        It is very difficult to write about what there is nothing to write about (answer). Especially about a mortgage about 6% or this: - "You draw up a mortgage, something around 15%, then you draw up documents to include you in the interest rate subsidy program (for example, under the" young family "program)". Dear, you probably live in an apartment that you left from your grandparents. If you have not encountered this, then you better keep silent. But the most ridiculous of your comment is: - "You will not believe, but he is working for him. Uncle Sam is" indignant "... Do you understand what you write about? How can you work for Uncle Vanya with Chubais, Dvorkovich, Serdyukov, iPhone, Golikova, Mutko, Levitin, I don't remember the name of the minister of education, etc. Honestly, I didn't even want to answer you.
                      10. +2
                        30 January 2014 12: 17
                        Quote: IOwTZ
                        It is very difficult to write about what there is nothing to write about (answer). Especially about a mortgage about 6% or this: - "You draw up a mortgage, something around 15%, then you draw up documents to include you in the interest rate subsidy program (for example, under the" young family "program)". Dear, you probably live in an apartment that you left from your grandparents. If you have not encountered this, then you better keep silent.

                        I live in a rented apartment in the city of Cheboksary. I am 26 years old. Married. Son 10 months. Engineer. Just busy solving the housing problem. For I live in a rented apartment from 2009 year. Tired of it. The above data are from the program that I am trying to formalize at the Russian Agricultural Bank.



                        Quote: IOwTZ
                        But the most ridiculous of your comment is: - "You will not believe, but he is working for him. Uncle Sam is" indignant "... Do you understand what you write about? How can you work for Uncle Vanya with Chubais, Dvorkovich, Serdyukov, iPhone, Golikova, Mutko, Levitin, I don't remember the name of the minister of education, etc. Honestly, I didn't even want to answer you.


                        A logical continuation of your opus would be the song "The cat abandoned the kittens - it's Putin's fault."

                        Of course, Putin is to blame for everything, that he appointed a bunch of enemies to the government. And on the bench are the unrealized talents of competent managers. Yeah. Believe it yourself?

                        I have the opposite opinion - I think that we have a crisis of management personnel in our country. Therefore, the government is molded according to the principle "I blinded you out of what was ...". There are a bunch of so-called representatives of the elite, who over the decades have caught only how to quickly cut down money, and are completely incapable of a long and dreary creation. Therefore, there are schemes in the style of "Not enough money for state programs? - Let's privatize some state-owned enterprise, and next year we will privatize something else. I have been a temporary minister for 4 years anyway."

                        Of the last disappointments - Medinsky. I made such a good impression until I became a minister - you can clap your hands for joy ... But in the end ... you can say zilch ...
                      11. +1
                        30 January 2014 13: 01
                        Quote: Xoxo4un
                        For I live in a rented apartment since 2009. Tired of it.


                        Well, you see, the year 2014 is outside and you think you are studying the issue. I have been sucking this question for a long time, too, but so far I have not decided to hang a financial loop on myself. The country's leadership has the opportunity to make mortgage lending affordable. Now this is bondage. I wish you success!
                      12. 0
                        30 January 2014 15: 16
                        Quote: IOwTZ
                        The country's leadership has the opportunity to make mortgage lending affordable. Now this is bondage.

                        For example, how do you see this?
                        Quote: IOwTZ
                        Good luck to you!

                        Thank you
                      13. +2
                        30 January 2014 17: 22
                        The Young Family program is not a program for the poor or the faint of heart! The daughter and her husband, in theory, fall under this program, but (as always another "but ...") they do not have sufficient savings and sufficient official earnings, which should be at least 50 thousand rubles for each family member, that is 150 thousand rubles !!! crying
                      14. 0
                        30 January 2014 20: 08
                        I don’t know in which region you live in order to have such conditions. In ours this is not. In my mine 38t.r. net enough to get a loan of 1 800 000 rubles. Even without taking into account the salary of his wife (she is on maternity leave). Well, of course with guarantors.
                      15. 0
                        30 January 2014 17: 15
                        Of the last disappointments - Medinsky. He made such a good impression until he became Minister ...

                        But in Transbaikalia, the Head of the Rural Settlement, popularly chosen, unable to withstand the pressure of the System, HANG! That was his answer when he realized that he could not fulfill any of the promises given to his fellow villagers to improve or, at least, normalize life. hi . A worthy, honest man turned out to be an officer, shot himself!
                      16. +1
                        30 January 2014 20: 16
                        Not an indicator. I also went to serve in the army under the pressure of public opinion such as "hazing", "dagi", "peeling potatoes", "painting the grass." And he served normally. We also have one hanged himself. Although he did not serve a day. From the first day to the hospital "mow". After 3 months in part. He ran away from the medical unit and hanged himself on a trouser belt outside the territory of the unit on the same day. Did you also fail with the system?

                        The meaning of a person’s life is overcoming difficulties to improve the world around him. If without clarification and generalized. And this is the easiest way to commit suicide / to flee to another country / not to raise children and live for yourself and other options to choose from. Nobody will ever bring anything on a silver platter. Alas...

                        Although, to be honest, every human life is a pity.
                      17. +1
                        30 January 2014 04: 39
                        "On the fence, too, what they just do not write ...", and behind the fence there is firewood drinks laughing
                      18. +1
                        30 January 2014 02: 01
                        Quote: IOwTZ
                        Guessing is not necessary, I will prompt. Buy normal apartments at a mortgage rate of 1,5-2,0%.

                        yeah, and then they pay it another 40 years ...
                    2. acute
                      0
                      29 January 2014 22: 53
                      not to someone, but to specific people who are currently in power
              2. +10
                29 January 2014 15: 48
                forgot how we lived 14 years ago?
                otherwise I can remind you that about a mobile for 200 bucks and about a PC for 500-600, 90 percent could only dream of, and this is not about megahertz and gigabytes, but about dollars that the population could spend on megahertz and megabytes .
                I can also remind you about abidas costumes, rehab shoes, sona tape recorders, panaskanik. creepy branded stuff however. Now go and see what students go to, which gadgets they play. and mother Russia is great, but nowhere to put the car. that's how people with hunger and poverty buy cars in the millions a year.
                1. optimist
                  -4
                  29 January 2014 16: 50
                  Quote: just explo
                  and mother Russia is great, but nowhere to put the car. that's how people with hunger and poverty buy cars in the millions a year.

                  You, dear, the logic of the Papuan, who received glass beads and a mirror. The fact that the Russian redneck has raked in credit wheelbarrows does not mean anything. For these clothes and pieces of iron you did not notice how our country was stolen from all of us.
                  Quote: just explo
                  tell why Ossetia and Abkhazia are parasites, and Israel for the states is not a parasite and an ally.

                  Elementary: because the population of these "small and proud" republics does not work (like the entire Caucasus), but lives off the Russian budget. And then such "smart people" as you are outraged by the rise in prices for everything around. As for Israel, the "Jewish comrades" are more than fulfilling their gesheft ...
                  1. +9
                    29 January 2014 17: 22
                    the fact that our "redneck" picked up wheelbarrows on credit, suggests that the "redneck" has something to pay off this loan, that is, they are not starving in any way.
                    by the way in the states, too, cars are taken for the most part on credit. too hungry? or in the states there are no poor? because there paradise and civilization and authorities defeated old age and death.
                    Threat and what is it then working Jews still require themselves for 3 lard bachey to help (free of charge, that is, yes "d" ohm) for only one military man? do they work? or they work so badly that they demand to help themselves (free of charge, that is, yes "d" ohm) three times more than the entire budget of a comparable country in terms of population and size of the country like Moldova (although Israel will be a little more).
                    Yes, Israel for a year only on a military commissar receives more than Abkhazia and Ossetia for all years for everything.
                2. rolik
                  +3
                  29 January 2014 20: 39
                  Quote: just explo
                  otherwise I can somehow remind you about a 200 bucks mobile

                  I’ve bought my mobile phone (Nokia) in 1997. We Then opened the Northwestern GMESEM (now Megaphone). So the mobile phone came to me in 1500 dollars, plus a connection for 250, a minute of conversation 20 rubles (though the first 6 hours of talks as a gift). And then they didn’t know about SMS at that time, then everyone was running around with pagers.
                  I remember the years 91-92, when they gave away a new Gigue of the sixth model for the video two)))) These were the savages we were.
                  1. +1
                    29 January 2014 21: 06
                    this is the beginning of the 90s, and in the late 90s it was possible to take boo tubes from us the major took erikson then, I don’t remember the models, but I remember that they later changed them to nokia, nokia 8250 was especially popular.
                    1. 0
                      30 January 2014 01: 13
                      Ericsson 677 seems (or 600 grams of shame), I sometimes hammer in such nails, you could throw like a cobblestone
                  2. +1
                    30 January 2014 04: 44
                    I have it in 1995. I don't remember the model. Operator - UMSi, now - MTS. The handset cost 1200 dollars, a minute of an outgoing call was 2 dollars, an incoming call was 1 dollar. And as a gift there was 30 minutes of "free" conversation drinks
              3. 0
                30 January 2014 01: 59
                Quote: IOwTZ
                I agree. The exhaust is not very scarce, but it does not exist at all. I already wrote that for 14 years of the golden reign, at exorbitant oil prices, we received only the parent NAKAPITAL.

                Well, what are you still not the president, if you know him better what needs to be done?
            2. +4
              29 January 2014 15: 45
              Don't poke me yourself, write culturally "don't poke".
              and you probably judge by grants, because the exhaust is already entering the army in series and in the form of a bunch of models. and tell us why Ossetia and Abkhazia are parasites, and Israel for the states is not a parasite and an ally.
            3. DMB-78
              +4
              29 January 2014 16: 56
              presidents build their policies on reports from the ministry of foreign affairs, intelligence, etc. and who those who criticize them use only rumors and what the media will tell them. Novikov-surf wrote to Tsushima, where he outraged both the commanders of the ships and the admirals themselves. but how could a simple sailor from the hold see and understand. what the admiral intended, all the more so as and how it really goes. not so long ago, historians recognized that everything was done correctly. they lost only because there were gross miscalculations of the General Staff, a backlog in armaments. and in general, the one sitting in the trench will never understand what the marshal is up to
              1. 0
                30 January 2014 02: 07
                Quote: DMB-78
                and in general, the one sitting in the trench will never understand what the marshal is up to

                and which soldier does not dream of becoming a general?

                besides, some people think that for this you just need to scream louder and throw the brown substance on the fan ...
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          3. zzz
            zzz
            +3
            29 January 2014 13: 47
            I think he told Yanukovych
            Quote: just explo
            what will happen and what it will "be" according to his script,
            , so he ordered to hold out "by any means", even the hopak on the Maidan allowed to dance ..)))
          4. 0
            29 January 2014 14: 46
            But didn’t you think that Putin knows something that you don’t know?


            For some time now I don’t even read the comments of this network character. And you think you should not spray on a person speaking for all one negative.
            1. olviko
              +12
              29 January 2014 15: 50
              "And I think you shouldn't be sprayed on a person who speaks for all one negative."

              I remember August 2013, when you threatened to bomb Syria. How many different optimists were on this forum, how many hysterics: "Putin fucked up Syria, everything is gone, Russia is wrong, it was necessary that, it was necessary." ..ope gentlemen? Times have changed, I think Putin will wash the West this time too, recently he taught them to do it regularly.
        7. +13
          29 January 2014 13: 07
          In such cases, I always agree with those who say that we don’t know much. Perhaps special communications are now hotter than on the Maidan, but with better prospects. What I want to hope for.
        8. Heccrbq.3
          0
          29 January 2014 13: 37
          You can find all the answers to your questions in the book "Power in TNT Equivalent" by M. Poltoranin. http://4itaem.com/read/250198
        9. +7
          29 January 2014 14: 18
          It amazes me (once again) the cowardly position of our authorities! Putin throughout the world declares that we will not interfere in the situation in Ukraine, we will not support anyone, we will not withdraw our loans if the opposition comes to power.


          And I am amazed by the chatter of some citizens and people who propose to intervene in the affairs of Ukraine without asking the people of Ukraine and its authorities.
          Moreover, there is a suspicion that such talkers shouted at the time that Putin had leaked Assad.

          Now for the specifics? What should Putin do to make you happy?
          Send troops? Do you have any idea what it is? Or are you like Chapay, pulled out a saber and let's go indiscriminately chop the "cabbage"? Yes, and not his own.
          When you are already growing up and understand that Ukraine must decide how to live on ?! Not Yanyk, not Putin, not Yaytsenyukh, not Klitschko. This should be done by the people of Ukraine through elections.

          And Bender and other Natsik are no longer just stopped, but they are also caught and beaten.
          1. GDP
            +1
            29 January 2014 15: 10
            And I am amazed by the chatter of some citizens and people who propose to intervene in the affairs of Ukraine without asking the people of Ukraine and its authorities.

            The people of Syria and Libya have already decided their own destiny ... Shall we wait for the same in Ukraine? But in the first and second cases, civil war could have been avoided.

            I do not think that something similar will happen in Ukraine, but the fact that in Ukraine Russian interests are defeated is a fact.

            And the fact that the West dominates the media, pushing its interests, and the East is silent is also a fact ...

            I will say it openly! I am Russian! The prosperity of the Ukrainian people and the very existence of such a power as Ukraine is interesting to me only when it is a friendly power and a friendly people.

            The authorities, the media, education and culture make them friendly or hostile to me and I care about the impact our government has on these institutions in Ukraine and whether it is able to do this at all ...
        10. +7
          29 January 2014 15: 49
          Look at Ukrainian TV channels and you will understand that everyone is just waiting for Russia to start making sharp movements towards Ukraine. News lines are already full of Russian special forces dressed in the uniform of the Berkut, they write that the weapons and ammunition used by the Berkut are from Russia. What a squeal would have risen if Russia had made sudden movements! But the fact that the information war is currently being played is a fact. After all, you can find a lot of interesting and necessary facts in the history of Ukraine. You can show the films "Taras Bulba", "With Fire and Sword" on the channels that are broadcast to Ukraine. You can develop the theme of the Haidamak uprisings in Ukraine. Moreover, Shevchenko has an excellent poem - "Haidamaki". Remind people of Kodna. Remind - "Shob you chorty to Kodni took away."
          1. -1
            30 January 2014 02: 11
            Quote: Rods
            It is possible to show films "Taras Bulba", "With Fire and Sword" on channels that are broadcast in Ukraine

            would you watch a historical film at a time when history is happening?

            in fact, the information war essentially does not solve anything ...
            Ukraine will be divided into Ukrainians, and Putin, Barroso and Obama ...
        11. 0
          30 January 2014 01: 21
          Quote: Polovec
          Putin throughout the world declares that we will not interfere in the situation in Ukraine, we will not support anyone, we will not withdraw our loans if the opposition comes to power. At the same time, Obama declares full support for the anti-government forces of Ukraine. About the fact that all Western and Amersky trash squeals about this from the beginning of the conflict and adds fuel to the fire it is said a thousand times!
          Why can not we support our interests in Ukraine?

          Putin’s task is to ensure that the Russians in Ukraine do not hate us and do not think that we are telling them ...

          although, the undercover game certainly goes ...
        12. valerakuh
          +4
          30 January 2014 06: 20
          You listened to Putin inattentively! You need to listen to him with a cold head. He told the world that he was interested in the creditworthiness of Ukraine and economic stability. That says it all. So NOT interested:
          - in default
          - in the civil war
          - in the riots.
          And he knows how to work with any government, even 100% orange. Remember, it was recently. It, orange, does not last long in Ukraine, flies like a cork under the pressure of the people. As they say the Pole in the Kremlin will not sit for a long time.
          Quote: Polovec
          Putin throughout the world declares that we will not interfere in the situation in Ukraine, we will not support anyone, we will not withdraw our loans if the opposition comes to power. At the same time, Obama declares full support for the anti-government forces of Ukraine.

          Obama only mentioned support for the PEACEFUL expression of his rights by citizens of Ukraine.
          And what should Putin say?
          Of course he will suspend loans if robbers come. But there is a struggle under the carpet so that the robbers do not come to power.
          The Soviet Union was brutal, so what?
          Times have come such that one can only be defeated by brains and composure.
          Olympics 2014. After all, you need to understand that the quiet holding of this holiday and the recognition and visit of leaders from all over the world will return to Russia the status of a superpower. An understanding will come that she again can overpower the event on a planetary scale. And economically, and most importantly organizationally. To build from scratch, to manage, to convince its people that it is necessary, to break down international information resistance, to convince the whole world that Russia is resurrected after the 1991 defeat by means of such machinines as Sochi 2014 can only be the power of the first five ...
        13. tryphon
          0
          31 January 2014 22: 59
          Very many in Ukraine would not object to Russian intervention. Moreover, both Russia and the United States are equal guarantors of Ukraine’s security after the collapse of the USSR and Ukraine’s renunciation of nuclear weapons.
        14. 0
          4 February 2014 11: 36
          And I’m not completely in agreement, with all due respect to the fraternal people, but they have already been stiffened by their uncertainty, like prostitutes here and there, Ukraine has only indicated that it will continue to aspire to the EU, and why should Putin support them? What would make us fools again? and the world community and Ukraine itself? no thanks. prostitutes have already suffered near by, enough for all the dogs to help everyone, with Syria everything is clear Syria is with us, the people are grateful to us, the country wants to cooperate in all areas, they even have something to take, and Ukraine and the state do not dare to name the language. No need to help them until they themselves want it and promise friendship for centuries. And it will come if the missile defense base is deployed in the EU, measures will have to be taken to instantly destroy it if something happens.
      2. infinite silence ...
        0
        31 January 2014 19: 05
        The protracted situation is already annoying everyone ... and that this is a threat to financial stability (if you can call it that) and the weakening of the national currency. The guys needed a team ... And only the cowardice of the authorities, looking to the West, allowed this scum to roam already throughout the territory. And they really could stop it in a couple of days.
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    3. +14
      29 January 2014 10: 00
      In the midst of events, hundreds of Crimean Tatars went to the capital of Ukraine to provide “military assistance” to the protection of the Euromaidan. Organized groups of 15-20 people young Crimean Tatar Islamists advanced to Kiev. Many "European integrators" have undergone special training in mountain training camps in Western Ukraine.

      The backbone of the Crimeans who arrived at Euromaidan are hardened militants who urgently returned from Syria, where "co-religionists" continue to fight against the regime of Bashar al-Assad. Their latest action - 10 doctors who were stabbed to death in the Christian city of Deir-Atyya near Damascus for refusing to cooperate with gangs "- says the Internet project" Free Press ".

      "We got home through Turkey. Now combat experience will come in handy in the so-called" security service "- the protection of mass opposition events on the streets of the Ukrainian capital. Information about the Syrian" veterans "first came from the council of atamans of the Crimean Cossacks.
      Reports osinform.ru
      1. +10
        29 January 2014 11: 25
        Today, the main enemy of the Russian Civilization is the Western moronic-consuming Civilization. The massive infection with Russophobia was facilitated by the dependence of the Ukrainian elites on the West. The turning point in this ideological war was not 2004, when the Orange Revolution took place. It all started much earlier. And the main ideological blow was directed at the younger generation. Many simply could not understand why - after all, they lived amicably, not being very interested in their national origin, and suddenly ... Calls to join NATO, threats to expel the Russian Navy from Sevastopol, accusations of Russia in the "Holodomor", "gas" war, dismissal of thousands of officials on a political basis, the expulsion of honest teachers, the massive closure of Russian schools, the feverish rewriting of history textbooks, the glorification of the OUN-UPA fighters, etc., etc. This was anti-Russian hysteria based on historical lies and falsifications. The Soviet period and modern Russia were presented only in a negative aspect. The younger generation of Ukrainians grew up on a primitive and outrageous Russophobia. When they are asked, here is the Holodomor, okay, but tell me, what prevented Moscow from killing all Ukrainians at 33, 34, 35, etc., all that would be at the root. There is nothing to answer. Everything is so stuffed with lies and spite. It is a pity for such youth.
        1. 0
          30 January 2014 04: 50
          Yes .... The lost generation ...
      2. +3
        29 January 2014 18: 18
        Quote: vezunchik
        The backbone of the Crimeans who arrived at Euromaidan are hardened militants who urgently returned from Syria, where "co-religionists" continue to fight against the regime of Bashar al-Assad.

        From the same opera ...
        Quote: Rods
        ... News lines are already full of Russian special forces dressed as Golden Eagle, they write that the weapons and ammunition used by the Golden Eagle from Russia ...

        Varum is all this?
        PS "Svoboda" was banned in Crimea. The Mejlis supported the "Euromaidan". This is Crimea. And there were always enough people with a disturbed perception of the world. I have read it for a long time, and I don’t remember where (count it I lied) ... among the Slavs for 1000 newborns - one genius, one - dEbil; the Anglo-Saxons have one person per 1000.
    4. +8
      29 January 2014 10: 51
      In parting, I respectfully shake hands with a man whom many of my acquaintances are ready to lynch. World has gone mad!


      and I would respectfully shake my hand. and this is not the world gone crazybut good sum for the war wept. Yesterday I spoke with my mother (Crimea) on the phone, in complete confusion: "Vital, what will happen next", "What do you think?", "Is this war?" It is calm in Crimea, there are both, they live peacefully, but no one can even think of building some kind of barricades. But damn it, tell me what can make you go at each other, what or who can make you hate, a relative, a neighbor, a work colleague, and hit him with a stick. - "This is war"
    5. avg
      +9
      29 January 2014 10: 58
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      They all need to understand that a response can follow if something happens to our families.

      With each such interview, with each video, I hate Yanukovych more and more. Of the current politicians, there is probably no greater prostitute. And his family is appropriate.
      1. +1
        29 January 2014 16: 20
        The main thing in Russia is to draw the right conclusions. All this Maidan would have been rolled into asphalt long ago. But Yanyk is afraid to give a command - "honestly stolen" millions in offshore are holding back.
      2. 0
        30 January 2014 04: 54
        Whatever words are spoken on a political stage, the very fact of a man's appearance on this stage proves that there is a "B" and an provocateur in front of us, because if a man wasn’t there, there was no fucking bad CLUTCH RINGS WITH MACHINES. ELEMENTARY WATSON. IF A GIRL SUCKS IN A PUBLIC HOUSE, ARMED WITH A DEDUCTIVE METHOD, THE MIND CONCLUSIONS THAT IN FROM US A PROSTITUTE.
        1. Slavon76
          -1
          30 January 2014 08: 33
          Or maybe before the wedding he trains wassat
    6. +10
      29 January 2014 11: 06
      Patience to you, Berkutovtsy. A true Slavic spirit, a healthy mind and a good upbringing in a person. These would be more people in Ukraine.
      "There is no justice, Colonel ...", unfortunately ...
      And the media is biased, they are in the hands of local oligarchs whose accounts and partners abroad ... And they don’t give a damn about their people ... they were paid for the result and outlined the prospect ...
      In fact, as someone correctly noted, there are far fewer bad people on earth than good people ... only they, for some reason, always have more money .. hi
    7. +8
      29 January 2014 12: 38
      Already now we need to create a base of orange militants, coordinators and sponsors, and then push down and down.
      1. +4
        29 January 2014 19: 59
        what I read comments and don’t understand. What is being discussed here? Golden eagle, its actions or its GDP and its domestic and foreign policy? Can we talk about the topic?

        Berkutovets is certainly right. Law enforcement agencies must fulfill their duty and stand guard over the state. Presidents are elected people, but the state and the law do not change!
        We wanted the law enforcement agencies to catch all the provocateurs who operate on both sides.
        And the victims will soon recover and return to their families.
        1. optimist
          -3
          29 January 2014 20: 30
          Quote: lonely
          I read comments and don’t understand. What is being discussed here? Golden eagle, its actions or its GDP and its domestic and foreign policy? Can we talk about the topic?

          Rightly so. But if it were not for the stupid and indistinct policy of the Russian authorities all previous years, we would not have to talk about this sad topic today. And talk about GDP, just in the subject. (By the way: putinoids have some kind of "winter aggravation" today. laughing Threw "minuses", foaming at the mouth, proving that Vova is doing everything right. If he did everything correctly, there would not be such a mess in Ukraine.) What do we have today in the "bottom line"? "Crap" in full Yaneca and a fraternal country, sliding into civil war? (God forbid!!!). And the prospect of signing a preconditioned "association with the EU" ...
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    1. +37
      29 January 2014 09: 07
      FOR REFERENCE....
      All of today's power is like that. (In all countries of the post-Soviet space))) UKRAINE is a springboard for studying the behavior of the Slavs, there are no scenarios for the Arab spring)))
      So do not flatter yourself, the PURPOSE is to play off the SLAVS, the "thieves" government holding the "Chanson of the Year" contests in the Kremlin))))
      "Urki" are everywhere in the media, on TV, in ministries and departments, they are headed by the security forces .... and the riot policemen are "golden eagles", parts of the explosives are consumables for them, which will be promised an "apartment"))))))

      And I, as a unit commander, would never have brought the situation to the beating of my PEOPLE ...
      So would every COMMANDER (but not a politician))
      Power is the ENEMY of the people (when everyone understands ???)
      THEY NEED BLOOD, the ghouls did not get drunk (but nothing to choke on)))
      SOON.
      1. acute
        +2
        29 January 2014 11: 23
        People hiding the scale of the state and the people living in it, they hid in prisons (Kvachkov and company)
      2. optimist
        -1
        29 January 2014 15: 46
        Quote: Asgard
        All of today's power is like that. (In all countries of the post-Soviet space)))

        Russia's main trouble is that the overwhelming majority of its population does not understand this. And our "Siberian Siberian" is no better than the Ukrainian "Yaneka", with the only difference that he is smarter, more cunning, stronger and he has a lot of dough. And in the situation with Ukraine, he behaved like an ordinary huckster-shopkeeper: "like I'll give the dough and they'll do everything beautifully for me !!!" Being in power for 14 years, instead of pursuing a well-thought-out policy, it all boiled down to handouts and taking away "economic cookies" to the former Soviet republics. And our "sworn friends" from the West, without financial "injections", managed to tame all these "pseudo-elites" by gracious permission to hide the stolen money. The current situation in Ukraine shows that the Yanek will definitely be "merged" and the country will be dragged to the West. Then I'll see what the ardent putinoids will "sing" ...
        1. klim44
          -1
          29 January 2014 17: 47
          I almost disagree with you. This is not Putin very smart and cunning, but the population of the Russian Federation is indifferent. The Duma is constantly adopting prohibitive laws, prices and utilities are rising, but no one will protest, we’ll discuss everything in the kitchen at home. In Ukraine, the population is a little different from that in the Russian Federation; it can defend its rights. And 15 billion did not help.
          1. +4
            29 January 2014 18: 27
            Quote: klim44
            I almost disagree with you. This is not Putin very smart and cunning, but the population of the Russian Federation is indifferent. The Duma is constantly adopting prohibitive laws, prices and utilities are rising, but no one will protest, we’ll discuss everything in the kitchen at home

            I'll fix it a bit wassat
            Neither Russians nor Belarusians will climb into the barricades in connection with the increase in housing and communal services tariffs, as they are well aware that stability is the key to success.
          2. +1
            30 January 2014 19: 29
            The population of course is sluggish. In the future, the EU will be even more sluggish, dumber, poorer, shorter - less and worse.
            But in Kiev - everything has just fallen away, there are no rights defended, but sucks rule.

            Only maidown can hope for prosperity in the European Union - all the support and calculation of an overseas clawed paw that clings to the heart of Ukraine is on it.
            Your gayropeyskoe "happiness" in its usual manner begins with govnozamesa - Maidan. Threats, injuries, murders. It will end, perhaps, with the prosperity of some thread of a red rose or a Welsh daffodil, on a heap of manure, mixed with ash - what will remain from small Ukraine ...
        2. nbw
          nbw
          0
          29 January 2014 22: 40
          The current situation in Ukraine shows that the Yanec will definitely be "merged" and the country will be dragged to the West. Then I'll see what the ardent putinoids will "sing" ...
          I counted you.
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    2. predator.3
      +15
      29 January 2014 09: 09
      Quote: invisible
      The authorities of Ukraine! You bastards! You betrayed simple service people, citizens of the country!


      And ours, the Russian government is no better than the Ukrainian, except for a couple of normal ministers, the rest are one thief and a dubya!
      1. +2
        29 January 2014 09: 22
        except for a couple of normal ministers,

        Who are they?
        1. +3
          29 January 2014 09: 24
          By the way, announce the entire list, please.
        2. predator.3
          +4
          29 January 2014 09: 49
          Quote: klimpopov
          Who are they?

          Well, for example, S. Shoigu, D. Kazak
          1. +3
            29 January 2014 10: 20
            Well, yes ... I forgot about Shoigu ...))))
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          3. +8
            29 January 2014 11: 00
            Say Shoigu ... On the site he is criticized in full, then he is a normal minister ...

            Personally, my "rose-colored glasses" were somehow in awe of him, and it would certainly not turn out to write him down as a sensible minister.

            And about the government-legitimately nothing can be changed. They won’t give. Russia will be a strong power - a fact, since, using the example of Libya and Gaddafi, Putin understood that if there is no power, then they will crush it (well, in principle, we can say with the whole history). And inside there will be the same liberals and oligarchs, well, maybe a little different (it all depends on who will share and not be greyhound in power).

            In principle, it is enough to look at the shuffling of the "deck of frames" - as in Krylov's fable, "and you friends, how can you not sit down ..."

            Just think - there will be elections. Who will dabble? Are they the new ones?

            I repeat once again - there will be no miracles in domestic politics and economy, Putin is a liberal, and success in foreign policy is connected only with the protection of his (oligarchic) ​​interests. It was really strange having such a potential to give the feeder to someone for fun. It’s interesting to housekeeping.
            1. +1
              29 January 2014 13: 44
              I said something like this before. Some owners of Lexus replace others ...
              SchA will tell you about Shoigu ..))))))
              1. 0
                29 January 2014 14: 47
                On Toyota? I am surprised!
                1. 0
                  29 January 2014 14: 55
                  Well, figuratively. Substitute another prestigious brand ...
                  1. 0
                    29 January 2014 15: 05
                    mentally introduced the members of the pzhiv on a "prestigious" Toyota (in your case, Lexus)
            2. acute
              0
              29 January 2014 16: 04
              Try to sit in the same coop with hens for twenty years. You crow even if you were human
          4. acute
            -1
            29 January 2014 14: 47
            You sometimes calculate. what to write. Among the piles of d ... ma suddenly fresh. Take off your pink glasses
        3. 0
          29 January 2014 15: 18
          1st - Shoigu
          2nd - Lavrov
          3rd ... and that’s all.

          Shoigu at least in the Ministry of Emergencies kept order. Lavrov is a VERY tactful diploma.
          1. acute
            0
            29 January 2014 16: 13
            What an order. People were stunned by doing nothing and getting money. We worked at the facility of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, I did not have enough workers to complete the facility on time. It was necessary to load the earth into a wheelbarrow, carry 50 meters and empty it. Ask for help from the Ministry of Emergencies for money (1000 rubles per person for 4 hours of work). They sent both me and their boss. Why work if he gets 10 rubles for 40000 days of duty (not hard work). He set up work there. Have spawned loafers. Do they go every day on emergency situations ?. No, they sleep and are "on duty"
            1. 0
              30 January 2014 10: 57
              Correctly done what they sent! You took up the object of the Ministry of Emergencies, so why should rescuers help you ?! Everyone must do their job. And they’re used to it like in the USSR: on students' potatoes, military beets, etc. Because of people like you, we were the first Chechen soldiers who only knew how to paint fences! Minus to you!
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              2. +2
                30 January 2014 11: 51
                Trendy logic. He didn’t ask for free - for money. Well, he hired a campaign as a result of other workers - then what? And the Ministry of Emergencies refused.
                And about potatoes it is better not to be better - a bunch of loafers were introduced to work. And they themselves ate this potato. Now they are sitting in heaps of parasites, they can’t think of idleness in order to create such a thing. And horseradish will go to vegetable stores even for money - not creatively.

                They mixed everything in a heap, turned upside down and were satisfied.

                PS And the request of the soldiers is you all the more in vain. Well, they’re completely superfluous in this topic.
          2. 0
            30 January 2014 05: 17
            Denis, but I don’t understand, why are you being minus? For writing the truth? drinks Do not be discouraged - the family has its black sheep laughing
      2. +4
        29 January 2014 14: 50
        And ours, the Russian government is no better than the Ukrainian, except for a couple of normal ministers, the rest are one thief and a dubya!


        Well, go to Red Square. Have a smile. Natsik and liberals will stick to you.
        And Americans will rub their hands.
        1. -2
          30 January 2014 05: 19
          "Well, you will go out to Red Square. Pomitengue. The Nazis and liberalists will stick to you."
          I would like to see this "exit". How he then and what side "come out". fool
    3. +9
      29 January 2014 09: 13
      Quote: invisible
      Do you want power? What is your program? What would you like?

      How what? "Go ahead! Have Europe!" Well, even now, the Maidan must be dissolved without consequences for itself. Only now will it work?
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      2. Hudo
        +8
        29 January 2014 09: 20
        Quote: Egoza
        Do you want power? What is your program? What would you like?


        Ukrainian nationalists seized a passenger bus with Polish citizens, forcing the Poles to shout “Glory to Ukraine - glory to the heroes!”

        http://trimava.at.ua/publ/38-1-0-2595
        1. +9
          29 January 2014 09: 23
          Here too news from an ear of Moscow!
          In Lviv, opposition supporters did not share the seized building of the regional administration
          Deputies from the nationalist party "Freedom" tried to take him under control. Activists who stormed the administration did not agree with this. According to Interfax, there were clashes. Meanwhile, the night before it was reported that the protesters were ready to leave the building of the regional administration. About two thousand people seized it last Thursday. Then they forced the governor Oleg Salo to write a letter of resignation. Later, the head of the region stated that the document was invalid because it was written under threat of physical violence.
          1. +3
            29 January 2014 10: 23
            And the nerves are rather weak among the administration! wink
        2. +7
          29 January 2014 10: 05
          everything in history repeats itself. remember 1918 when venality glad led to the German occupation of Ukraine
          1. -1
            30 January 2014 18: 45
            Yes, not the venality of the Rada led to the occupation of Ukraine. And the Brest Treaty, according to which the Germans without resistance took all of Ukraine and part of the south of Russia, including Rostov-on-Don! belay Learn the history of the USSR, at least from the textbooks of the 70s! negative
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        4. +10
          29 January 2014 10: 10
          Quote: Hudo
          Ukrainian nationalists seized a passenger bus with Polish citizens, forcing the Poles to shout “Glory to Ukraine - glory to the heroes!”

          This is the call of the ancestors - Banederaites, would be killed. Now it’s too early, but it will be possible, and in Poland it will become clear: again, they didn’t bet on those.
        5. olviko
          +10
          29 January 2014 11: 35
          "Ukrainian nationalists hijacked a passenger bus with Polish citizens, forcing Poles to shout" Glory to Ukraine - glory to heroes! "

          Damn, it's a pity there was no Kachinsky on the bus with Kwasniewski and the European Commissioners in full force. That would be a circus!
          1. 0
            30 January 2014 05: 22
            Now the Poles, I think, will sniff into two holes. So they need it. Perhaps they forgot what the OUN-UPA did on their territory? So they quickly recalled.
            1. acute
              +1
              31 January 2014 11: 03
              Nobody needs it, don’t gloat.
      3. +1
        29 January 2014 14: 55
        Well, now Maidan dissolve without consequences for themselves.

        Elena, so it seems that they left Grushevsky and the occupied buildings ?!
        It is a pity, of course, if the strong-willed politician Yanyk would make you restore and clean the results of their rebellion.
  3. +23
    29 January 2014 08: 50
    The right words, a normal correspondent, gives information, not propaganda. Yesterday I read a similar material on the tape (http://lenta.ru/articles/2014/01/28/meninuniform/), re-posted.

    On the topic, men - well done, Yanukovych - a disgrace.
    1. +8
      29 January 2014 10: 27
      But the president is giving up. I am ready to fulfill almost all requirements. On the part of the opposition, no reciprocal steps. Yanukovych has only to release Yulia, disband Berkut and hang himself
  4. +19
    29 January 2014 08: 51
    World has gone mad!

    Go crazy single-handedly, not en masse! And if this still happened, then it is necessary to identify these frostbitten where it should!
    To the man from "Berkut", as they say, respect and respect, and most importantly, more health.
  5. +19
    29 January 2014 08: 59
    - I will defend the family with all legal means ... Do you think that there are no Yatsenyuk, Tyagnibok or German Klitschko addresses on the Internet? They all need to understand that a response can follow if something happens to our families.

    What insult is taking me, no words, the men fell under the distribution because of the ambitions of crooked politicians who, at the first opportunity, if it gets hot, will pack their bags to the EU or Canada. And so the slow-witted "European" do not think that one day, before the threshold a crooked politician may turn out to be a Berkut member with a desire to simply take revenge!
  6. makarov
    +6
    29 January 2014 08: 59
    I don’t want to discuss the truthfulness of what was said, because as I said earlier, everyone has their own truth. But I can say one thing, Yanek Berkut has already leaked. The Prosecutor General’s Office instituted a mass of criminal cases against the Berkut soldiers, and amnesty was announced yesterday to opposition fighters. Yesterday there was infa about the arrest of 2 Griffon and 2 Berkut residents who attacked a businessman with a firearm (like a traumatic) and took 1 lemon of money.
    1. +21
      29 January 2014 09: 34
      Quote: makarov
      I don’t want to discuss the truthfulness of what was said, because as I said earlier, everyone has their own truth.

      Hello, Pavel, everyone is right, everyone has their own truth, but during yesterday’s conversation with a comrade from the Dnieper, I almost fell off a chair, a man who cursed and cursed the Maidan exactly a month ago, his leaders, especially Tyagnibok, now proved the opposite with foam at the mouth It turns out now it’s not Bandera but almost heroes. (And this is not a teenager, but an adult held man). I had to recall our childhood to him, and his grandfather, who told us several times about the Second World War, and the Nazis, the horror of what the INFORMATION PROAGAND does to people, especially Ukrainian TV. Something like a brain set back, I don’t know for how long. For the first time, I came across the action of political technology from the EU, and became convinced of its strength. At this pace, and the exploits of our grandfathers in the Second World War will be called into question.
      1. +5
        29 January 2014 12: 01
        That is yes. Here we have 24/7 all the media working on the Maidan. And then to say how exactly there is no government media. All available are financed by oligarchic structures.
        1. 0
          29 January 2014 15: 22
          I don’t know, the regional channels of Donbass and Crimea are very well done.
      2. +2
        29 January 2014 12: 53
        Quote: Sirocco
        At this pace, and the exploits of our grandfathers in the Second World War will be called into question.

        already. read an article about liberals.
      3. 0
        30 January 2014 19: 13
        And I have a diametrically opposite case! My former sergeant, who lives in the Lviv region, at the beginning of the Maidan proved the correctness of the European choice by Ukraine, now he is already with great distrust of his countrymen and their actions in Kiev and at home in the Lviv region! And this is not only his personal opinion, but also the majority of his countrymen! Tired! - says. I want certainty and stability!
    2. +5
      29 January 2014 09: 37
      It is sad. This is stupid.
      Yanek betrayed the guard, who will protect him now? Klitschko?
      Stupid, stupid, stupid.
      1. Slavon76
        +1
        30 January 2014 08: 47
        Why is it stupid? Now, if he had not betrayed, then to all his accumulations in the west would be kirdyk. And so ...
    3. +6
      29 January 2014 10: 08
      the people do not understand that if Bandera come to power, how much blood will be shed ...
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    5. +3
      29 January 2014 15: 19
      Quote: makarov
      Yesterday there was infa about the arrest of 2 Griffon and 2 Berkut residents who attacked a businessman with a firearm (like a traumatic) and took 1 lemon of money.

      I look, I’m Makarov at you, it’s kind of adequate at times, and you take the word for the balobol reporters.
      Have you seen those criminal cases? Ile at the next analyst of Blow this read?
      So much stream of false information you are pouring, it’s ridiculous to me that people believe her.
      1. makarov
        +1
        29 January 2014 16: 54
        The attack on the businessman was still two or two and a half weeks ago. The cameras were all fixed, the patient was dragged in serious condition for surgery. He survived and told everyone who and what.
        And in the end, you should not discuss me, because the material is not about me. And you don’t need to say anything on my behalf, I am able to do it myself, and you, at. 31231 - Sergey, if in fairness, you can answer only for yourself personally, but not for anyone ..
      2. Slavon76
        0
        30 January 2014 08: 53
        And what surprises you sobsssv? What initiated criminal proceedings on employees? Duc Yanek is ready to merge anyone. Now, if the amnesty had not been announced - that would have been a real miracle. And so ....
  7. +28
    29 January 2014 08: 59
    For some reason, television did not bother to show how, on November 30, glass cans of peas were thrown into our guys in the face, beaten with sticks and bats. No one showed that the skirmish did not begin through the fault of the Golden Eagle, but when a threat to people arose. "Golden eagle" then used force only to provocateurs. However, nobody cares. I don’t give a damn about the fact that one of ours was torn up on the liver of Grushevsky, another shot from the pneumatic eye! He became disabled!

    On this site, some characters like "VovkaLevka" are trying to tell that they were the first to start "Berkut", like "child pobyly" and other heresy - do not lie and do not dodge, your smell has already smelled all this earth! Prokhanov, expressing his impression after visiting Kiev, said that the Maidan is saturated with blood - all this garbage, it is saturated with shit like those who personify it.
    And to the interviewed Hero - honor, respect and health!
    1. +4
      29 January 2014 09: 38
      As well as respect for the Journalist.
    2. Slavon76
      0
      30 January 2014 08: 56
      Quote: Kurkul
      Prokhanov, expressing his impression after visiting Kiev, said that the Maidan is saturated with blood - all this garbage, it is saturated with shit

      True, Zhirik used the word "..." laughing
      In general, another word ...
  8. +6
    29 January 2014 09: 00
    Panas fight - at lackeys forelocks crack.
  9. +22
    29 January 2014 09: 02
    Against the background of general landlordism of both politicians and scum from the Maidan, the Berkutovtsy are the last adequate people. You have been betrayed, spit in the face, hit in the back, and you are standing. Health to you, hold on guys!
  10. +17
    29 January 2014 09: 04
    It’s time for Yanukovych to change into a woman’s skirt - this is not a president, but a rag. Is there really no sensible and normal men in Ukraine to rule the country?
    1. makarov
      +3
      29 January 2014 09: 22
      Well, I suggested, choose me soldier feel
      1. +6
        29 January 2014 09: 59
        Quote: makarov
        Well, I suggested, choose me

        The program of your actions as president in the studio.
        1. makarov
          +1
          29 January 2014 13: 22
          Yes, please !!! She is the MOST HONEST laughing

          http://www.scandalim.ru/page/egor-lupan-kandidat-v-prezidenty-ukrainy-video
          1. +1
            30 January 2014 07: 22
            Quote: makarov
            Yes, please !!! She is the MOST HONEST

            It is understandable, you have current clowns can be presidents.
            1. makarov
              +1
              30 January 2014 11: 02
              It is understandable, you have current clowns can be presidents.

              Yes, perhaps a clown is better than a thief in a cube !!!
              1. 0
                30 January 2014 19: 20
                And even better a dictator than a "blue"! good drinks
    2. Conepatus
      +5
      29 January 2014 10: 28
      Quote: alexneg
      It’s time for Yanukovych to change into a woman’s skirt - this is not a president, but a rag. Is there really no sensible and normal men in Ukraine to rule the country?

      There was one sensible. The Minister of Transport, Kirpa Giorgi Nikolaevich. They only killed him.
    3. Slavon76
      0
      30 January 2014 09: 00
      Quote: alexneg
      Yanukovych time to change clothes in a female skirt

      As for changing clothes - this is to Kerensky. wink
  11. Dimkapvo
    +12
    29 January 2014 09: 05
    Golden eagle - respect and honor. And Putin had to invest 15 billion in organizing such holidays in America, so that every fat ass on it could feel the charm of democratic values!
    1. +1
      29 January 2014 15: 26
      Quote: DimkaPVO
      And Putin had to invest 15 billion in organizing such holidays in America, so that every fat ass on it could feel the charm of democratic values!


      And what do these overseas parasites need more than Ukrainians?
  12. +14
    29 January 2014 09: 06
    Quote: Sibiryak
    On the topic, men - well done, Yanukovych - a disgrace.


    That's right. He surrendered his special forces, passed Azarov, and, in fact, has already fallen in love with Ukraine.
  13. +11
    29 January 2014 09: 07
    Yanukovych betrayed his people in the last election, and he has now.
  14. +9
    29 January 2014 09: 09
    from the Don.
    Unfortunately, people who honestly carry out their duty are never needed by anyone, they are driven into the shadows. Dark power comes out into the light! And most importantly, money. Everything! Yanuk, in order to save stolen money, is ready to hand over the country to banderlogs! And there, it’s not far from the war. Much depends on the Southeast. Or they will continue to suffer bullying, or sweep away this trash. In my opinion, Ukraine as a state did not take place. The antagonism of the East and the West is evident!
    1. +31
      29 January 2014 09: 19
      Quote: borisjdin1957
      In my opinion, Ukraine, as a state did not take place. The antagonism of the East and West is evident!

      Leaflets are distributed in Crimea -
      "ATTENTION to the residents of Crimea, the cities of Kerch and Feodosia! There is evidence that a large number of militants arrived from Ukraine (they are also activists of the Maidan)
      to capture administrative institutions. Sevastopol and Simferopol they
      they couldn’t take it, they decided to take it by surprise. Get ready to protect
      your city, call friends and acquaintances, join groups and
      keep order in your cities. According to reports, due
      weather conditions (severe ice) their cars can’t overcome
      pass. Native Earth is already fighting vile invaders, we prove that
      we deserve it, like our ancestors, valiantly defending the eastern Crimea
      during the Kerch-Feodosia landing operation! "
      http://evk-skell.ucoz.ru/forum/30-307-51
      XXXX
      Pay attention - "... came from Ukraine ..." That's right! We will make Little Russia and we will take the Heroes-Berkutovs for ourselves!
      1. +16
        29 January 2014 10: 28
        Quote: Egoza
        Pay attention - "... came from Ukraine ..." That's right! We will make Little Russia and we will take the Heroes-Berkutovs for ourselves!

        Helen, hi !
        Dobkin also lights:
        1. +3
          29 January 2014 15: 31
          Dobkin also lights:


          Well then, it's time to nominate him for president. He has a will against the brown plague.
          1. +4
            29 January 2014 15: 34
            Quote: 31231
            Dobkin also lights:

            Well then, it's time to nominate him for president. He has a will against the brown plague.

            Do not hurry...
            Maybe there’s no need for elections - will become the president of the republic of Crimea according to the Russian protectorate ...
        2. +1
          29 January 2014 19: 41
          Quote: Kurkul
          Helena, !
          Dobkin also lights:


          Who SHOWED that the east is asleep ??? !!!
  15. +5
    29 January 2014 09: 11
    Hang on Guys!
  16. Hudo
    +4
    29 January 2014 09: 12
    In Lviv, deputies from VO "Svoboda" tried to storm the building of the Regional State Administration, which had been seized by the "Euromaidan" militants the day before ...
    http://ukrpravda.ua/news/boeviki-svobody-shturmuyut-lvovskuyu-oga-uzhe-zahvachen
    nuyu-evromaydanom-dopolneno
    1. +9
      29 January 2014 10: 08
      That's right, let each other better kherachat!
  17. +2
    29 January 2014 09: 16
    Well done guys, one word.
  18. +11
    29 January 2014 09: 18
    Why did Yatsenyuk and Klitschko not go to the ordinary elections when Yanukovych defeated? All just for politics they were an empty place. Now they earn a rating by plunging Ukraine into darkness. Shame on such politicians. After all that they have done with Ukraine, conscience is enough to call themselves patriots and strives for European integration. Who needs such a country? And Berkutovtsy well done. They defend a legitimate government that doesn't give a damn about them. But the guys have the honor of an officer. Scary for their family. Shame on the politicians of Ukraine that they cannot protect the families of children who are ready to die for them.
    1. vkrav
      +2
      29 January 2014 12: 17
      Quote: REDBLUE
      Why did Yatsenyuk and Klitschko not go to the ordinary elections when Yanukovych defeated? All just for politics they were an empty place.

      An empty place is a clean place. Now there is a lot of shit at this place. For two months we have been witnessing suicide in a particularly perverted form of independent "Ukrainian politics" controlled from where the grandmothers zabashlyat.Exhibition of political corpses.
  19. +14
    29 January 2014 09: 19
    Golden eagle is the 2014 Riga OMON. Hang on guys!
    1. +14
      29 January 2014 09: 24
      Golden eagle is the 2014 Riga OMON.
      So it reminded me. As well as our police in 1993. She stood and Golden Eagle stands.
      Do you think that on the Internet there are no addresses of Yatsenyuk, Tyagnibok, the German address of Klitschko? They all need to understand that a response can follow if something happens to our families.
      But this they certainly must be aware of.
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  21. +5
    29 January 2014 09: 22
    The Maidan is a revolution, and against the power which the people have chosen. What should be done with revolutionaries who oppose the will of the people? There is no person who would say DISCOVER!
  22. +6
    29 January 2014 09: 23
    A sober, adequate person. It is respectful. Unfortunately, the cowardly and thieving power of such people always betrays. And not only in Ukraine.
  23. +9
    29 January 2014 09: 24
    For some reason, it seems that he is Russian. Under oath. They were always proud of such.
    1. +4
      29 January 2014 09: 48
      Quote: Const
      For some reason, it seems that he is Russian. Under oath. They were always proud of such.

      It is what it is.
      On the same topic: I don't know, a bike or how, but it is easy to read: "An American soldier told why Russians are so afraid in the USA" - http://ribalych.ru/2013/12/22/amerikanskij-soldat-rasskazal/
      1. +2
        29 January 2014 13: 02
        Quote: Kurkul
        An American soldier told why Russians are so afraid in the USA "- http://ribalych.ru/2013/12/22/amerikanskij-soldat-rasskazal/

        It looks like agitation, but still cool laughing
    2. +5
      29 January 2014 14: 47
      Quote: Const
      For some reason, it seems that he is Russian. Under oath. They were always proud of such.

      The people, when will you already enlighten !!!
      There is no nation such a Ukrainian.
      There is a Ukrainian, there is a Siberian, but they are all Russian.
      Ukrainian, this is a territorial term, not a national one.
      For 70 years, Jewish Bolsheviks drove this box into our heads, wake up !!!!
      ps Zapukry, another people agree. Let them roll on all 4 sides.
  24. +12
    29 January 2014 09: 31
    Himself with riot police .... I look in the telly and my eyes refuse to believe. Yanukovych change your mind, give an order !!!!!
    1. +4
      29 January 2014 09: 41
      Yes, there will be no order. Ian just chickened. His motto is to merge all who are possible in order to swim himself.

      Apparently, he wants to go down in history as the second Gorbachev - the president without a country, army, power structures. But with an armchair, an office and a salary.
  25. +13
    29 January 2014 09: 38
    How our liberals envy everything that is happening in Ukraine. Were their will, the same would be done with us.
    I hope all-fingered think about where the road of their moaning leads.
    I am not against criticism, I am against frenzied lies and streams of dirt, which again pass as criticism.
    1. +3
      29 January 2014 12: 06
      About dialogue with the authorities. A bit rude ..

      “Twice a week, on Tuesdays and Fridays, I and all my friends and acquaintances get fucked in the ass with a mop handle. We don't like it and we are protesting against a mop in the ass.

      Power: "We are ready for a constructive dialogue. Offer an alternative to Tuesday or Friday, we will consider all your options."

      We say that let's cancel the mop altogether.

      Power: "The opposition does not bear a constructive beginning. They are only against, but do not offer any" for ", we only hear what needs to be destroyed, and we do not hear any suggestions - what should be inserted into the anus instead of the mop handle."

      We still don't settle for a mop in the ass.

      Authority: "We hear your displeasure. The mop will be thoroughly polished. Tax breaks for petroleum jelly producers will be introduced."

      No, we say, no mop.

      Authority: "Removing the squeegee quickly can injure your rectum and cause bleeding. Do you want bloodshed?"

      No, we say, we want our ass to stop shoving the stalk from the mop.

      Power: "Don't rock the boat !!! You have come under the influence of the US State Department, who convinces you that you have a mop in your ass because they don't need a strong Russia."

      No, we say, we still feel our butt, and we feel the mop - and we see.

      Authority: "Your voices have been heard. Fundamental reforms will be made. Over the next five years, half of the population will see the mop only on Tuesdays, and the other half only on Fridays. The approach to the selection of the mop inserters will be changed. In three years, the mop will be introduced only half. "

      No, we say, no mop in our asses !!!!!

      Authority: "If you pull out the mop quickly, you will stagger and you may fall. Are you not afraid to lose your balance? If we pull out the mop, you may be shoved in your ass with something worse than a mop !!! ..."

      Well, not a big woman, but ??????
      1. +3
        29 January 2014 14: 57
        You want to say that the maydauns on the Maidan, maidan against the mop?
        And it seems to me that these maydanutyh have their own mop, and even thicker.
  26. DMB-78
    +6
    29 January 2014 09: 49
    It seems to me that during the unrest in power, it was necessary to temporarily suspend the activities of some media under any pretext. upload more videos on the Internet about how the opposition acts with a golden eagle. lost the information war, lost power. can now peer a place on the bunks
  27. +9
    29 January 2014 09: 56
    "Berkut" are those who remained faithful to the oath, and for whom the words Motherland and honor are not an empty phrase, unlike politicians. Thank you for such people as the "Berkut" fighters
  28. +7
    29 January 2014 10: 13
    The saddest thing is that everyone understands that you need to act tough. Only there is no one to take responsibility to give such an order. And half measures lead to even more blood. And the guys health and speedy recovery.
  29. Net
    Net
    +6
    29 January 2014 10: 16
    Yes, it was not for nothing that in the USSR all the media were controlled by the state. For representatives of the most corrupt profession, give them free rein through the zomboyaschik destroy entire states. However, there are state-owned TV channels in Ukraine, but their position is clearly neutral, inconsistent and overly cautious in assessments, which looks completely unconvincing against the background of the frenzied false propaganda of "foreign agents".
  30. +5
    29 January 2014 10: 21
    Golden eagle, when your rag prezik merge Ukraine evrohaulyayram-Ayda to us. Enough land, work no less than in Ukraine))))
  31. +8
    29 January 2014 10: 33
    The situation with Berkut is very reminiscent of how they betrayed young soldiers in Chechnya.
    They were simply compromised without a chance of an answer, without having come up with anything better.
  32. +5
    29 January 2014 10: 36
    Who wrote what about the "far-sighted" and "experienced gopnik" Yanukovych? The government passed. The siloviks were framed for the possibility of injury and death. The situation is only getting worse every day. And what about the introduction of an emergency? The oligarchs do not allow: according to the law, all accounts are transferred to the management of the Central Bank of Uzbekistan when a state of emergency is introduced? If he were a gopnik or a swindler, he would have thrown these grabbers, and after that he would have used their dependence on himself. And the petty thief sees small and does everything and everyone. And the siloviki should protect this small-criminal shushara, even if they are betrayed.
    Who ordered this situation is already clearly provoking a military coup. How much more patience will these real men have? Then Ukrainian Mubarak will be Yanukovych. Who claims the role of Mursi?
    1. +4
      29 January 2014 14: 56
      Quote: samoletil18
      Who claims the role of Mursi?

      Brussels (in the words of Merkel) Klyachu palms off, like that of ANOTHER president who will sign an association agreement with the EU.
      The Muslim Brotherhood could not stand it for a year, the Egyptian army "forgot" about its neutrality in Tahrir Square ...
      The Ukrainian Minister of Defense is either a ragul or a sore head if he repeats the actions of his Egyptian counterpart.
  33. +8
    29 January 2014 10: 37
    Only a personal opinion. Here, in western Ukraine, in Rivne, if you exclude any media, life goes the same as before the Maidan. Only 1 tent in the square and (to be precise) the administration lobby that was seized. Administration buildings were not captured local - they served as a backdrop, pretty lamb, by the way. The whole campaign was organized in half a day by visitors who were even poorly oriented. Yes, a lot of brainwashed, but this turns out to be a kind of plus - now the information from the TV has gone more objective (Right sector and so on), and they begin to speak not only against Profesor, but also against Maidan. They save their faces to the rabbit and Boxer (they say nothing to do with it), and the extremists are uncontrollable monsters who are brought to the legal field. only games, as well as the abolition of laws. It’s not yet evening — Putin just won’t give money. And Fule and Ashton can at least settle in Kiev, only bargain for their dupes.
  34. misham
    +1
    29 January 2014 10: 43
    Each has its own truth. The fighter repeats about the legitimate and legitimate authority!
    This bl ... th power got everyone. The country is getting worse and worse, and they keep repeating about "nasty". Power is inherently corrupt. But you can't steal so brazenly, especially by the president's family.
    I thought Kuchma we have a worthless president. It turned out to be the best.

    Yanek thinks he is cool, to show weakness for him is not patsansky. Protests could be stopped in time. showing flexibility and wisdom. The Maidan would have dispersed, leaving a bunch of marginals.
    The authorities did nothing to reduce the intensity of passions. The latest outbreak of violence is a consequence of the adoption of the so-called. "package of laws on dictatorship". Without discussion, without procedure, in one fell swoop with a show of hands.
    Radicals and provocateurs are everywhere, but they have behind them a hundred thousand Maidan, and in the future a million. And this Maidan does not care about three types of opposition leaders.
    The purpose of the protests is not the fabulous GEYROPE, not the separation from Russia (although the slogan "RUSSIA GUDBAY" is present). The people are tired of the need to reboot the system. Now things have moved, Janek began to see clearly and began to slowly retreat and the militants quieted down.
    As for "Berkut" and on the internet and on TV there are enough shots about the wounded golden eagles and wounded protesters. And how the golden eagle helps "gopnik-tutuski". There are also several videos about the atrocities of the Berkut people, shooting at journalists. These are all the excesses of the performers. It happens in war. But this is not a war, but civil protests. Fathers-commanders should stop this and watch the personnel. Fighters must be ready for provocations.
    Video about bullying Gavrilyuk, this is a separate topic. But it’s precisely this video that will stick to the unit forever ......... BERKUT-SS
    Golden Eagle is likely to be disbanded. The guys are sorry. They will merge. For many, the oath is not empty words.
    1. +4
      29 January 2014 12: 20
      Quote: misham
      about the atrocities of the Berkutovites, shooting at journalists.

      What are such atrocities? This word, excuse me, from the Maidan dictionary. And the journalists are cheap - just hit me, there are injuries - shish, wipe yourself and take off, so no, they’ll run under the cameras. Or someone promises safety there, they warn that they don’t meddle. , eg. the cautious LGBT person V. Portnikov has long been fond of Ukraine on skype (her ass is her own, not Maidan’s, she must be protected), as is the first Avtomaydan leader, Koba.
  35. +3
    29 January 2014 10: 54
    Quote: Asgard
    UKRAINE_this is a springboard for studying the behavior of the Slavs, they do not roll out scripts for the Arab spring here yet)))


    I agree with your conclusion.
    Supplement: Explore Present behavior, since it has changed enough since the collapse of the USSR.
  36. -13
    29 January 2014 10: 54
    The article is neither a plus nor a minus - no ... It just doesn’t leave the feeling that the wounded Berkutov’s verb is directly phrased by Kiselev and other pro-Putin media. Strange ... Maybe it just seems ... wink
    Like a piece of paper.
    1. +4
      29 January 2014 13: 12
      But there is no suspicion that a person is simply telling the truth and precisely because it coincides with the opinion of other people?
      1. +1
        29 January 2014 15: 33
        It is strange that the truth is obtained by all with the same phrases, with the same expressions, phrases. Some truth born of the collective mind of the multitude)))
        By the way, nothing more comical can be imagined as a fallen euromaidan fascist with wads of money sticking out of his pockets. This "truth" is generally reminiscent of cartoons from the Crocodile magazine during the struggle against the aggressive American military clique. winked
    2. +1
      29 January 2014 15: 41
      The article is neither a plus nor a minus - no ... It just doesn’t leave the feeling that the wounded Berkutov’s verb is directly phrased by Kiselev and other pro-Putin media. Strange ... Maybe it just seems ...

      in what place of sensation? normal people think in a different place (head)
      and golden eagles respect and respect. Natsik will not pass!
  37. +4
    29 January 2014 10: 57
    It is interesting that if the police leave the Maidan or cease to expose their bodies under the stone-thrower of Bandera? There will be no power, the Maidan degenerates are not able to lead the country.
    Bandera, to our delight. What's next? The war of all against all? A terrible scenario! But everything goes to this!
    1. +2
      29 January 2014 15: 03
      Quote: Neophyte
      What next? The war of all against all? A terrible scenario! But everything goes to this!

      I'm worried about my relatives there.
  38. +10
    29 January 2014 10: 59
    On the one hand, they are "Berkuts" - worthy sons of their Motherland, the only ones who restrain all this Bandera scum



    and on the other hand these, descendants of Polish, German litter:


    HERA of Ukraine, the UPA's commander in chief Shlyukhevych and his comrades
  39. +1
    29 January 2014 11: 07
    Quote: Ustas
    Quote: makarovu I also proposed, select meProgram of your actions as president in the studio.

    For starters, let Pavel answer what he would do now in place of Yanukovych hi
  40. BAT
    +8
    29 January 2014 11: 12
    One gets such an impression. that the SBU in Ukraine or not at all, or the SBU is on the side of the fascists. Only "Berkut" stands in defense of the constitutional order in the country. And those were betrayed by the guarantor.
    Golden Eagles guys hold on! You are the true WARRIORS OF LIGHT !!!
    1. acute
      +4
      29 January 2014 11: 28
      SBU on the side of money
  41. +16
    29 January 2014 11: 13
    Ukrainian guy married a Russian girl. before the wedding night, his father gives him instructions: First, take her in his arms and bring her to the bed. Show me how strong Ukraine is. Then take off your shirt - show how beautiful Ukraine is. and the grandfather’s voice is heard from the next room: And then start the draw .. show what independent ukrin.
    1. Slavon76
      0
      30 January 2014 09: 32
      good
      Boo-ha-ha-ha !!! I have not heard.
  42. +8
    29 January 2014 11: 22
    Spring will show who crap where. He will wash away all this scum of the Euromaidown soon. Another thing is interesting. How are these Maidan people going to live in Ukraine among the people whom they insult today and beat in the last fits of impotent rage. It would be better for them to leave as soon as possible, but where? No one needs a brainless one.
    Americans know that if Ukraine merges with Belarus and Russia, then they will suck a large leather candy with all states!
  43. acute
    0
    29 January 2014 11: 25
    Quote: predator.3
    Quote: invisible
    The authorities of Ukraine! You bastards! You betrayed simple service people, citizens of the country!


    And ours, the Russian government is no better than the Ukrainian, except for a couple of normal ministers, the rest are one thief and a dubya!

    Who do you mean this? What amazing people these are in the sea ...
  44. +4
    29 January 2014 11: 38
    Quote: The same Lech
    They all need to understand that a response can follow if something happens to our families.

    Completely on the side of the Berkutian, I’ll do the same with any gangster who encroaches on my family, without regard to the LAW.

    These are zombies with brainwashed clean. They do NOT understand anything and are not able to understand.
  45. +9
    29 January 2014 11: 39
    This terrible Baroness Catherine Ashton from the Russia-EU summit has again rushed to the Maidan. So what can you talk about with these European ones?
    1. +3
      29 January 2014 15: 00
      Quote: polly
      This terrible Baroness Catherine Ashton from the Russia-EU summit has again rushed to the Maidan. So what can you talk about with these European ones?

      The experience of I. Armand was contagious laughing
  46. +5
    29 January 2014 11: 43
    Interestingly, what would the Maidan people (and the same Yanek) do if the Berkutovites were tired - they put on everyone with a device and a full staff, so to speak, would they leave, say, to Sevastopol (or to the Crimea in general)? Well, purely hypothetical. “Svoboda” with “Right Sector” would start gushing?
  47. +3
    29 January 2014 11: 52
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    Completely on the side of the Berkutian, I’ll do the same with any gangster who encroaches on my family, without regard to the LAW.


    I fully support for my family also bite any bastard
  48. HAM
    +3
    29 January 2014 11: 54
    Jan 29
    Ukraine will seek evidence of human rights violations for the International Tribunal

    And they will find, and will be "judged", and will punish "humanitarian", and maybe ...
    1. +1
      29 January 2014 12: 01
      To cleanse the seekers with the other Bender bastard - and I won’t search for what is not there.
  49. +3
    29 January 2014 11: 59
    Quote: alexneg
    It’s time for Yanukovych to change into a woman’s skirt - this is not a president, but a rag. Is there really no sensible and normal men in Ukraine to rule the country?


    Where did you see that petty urka was a man, probably he was made a woman in the zone
  50. HAM
    +3
    29 January 2014 12: 06
    Throw names, addresses and photos of the "heroes" of the Maidan on the Internet will scatter themselves ..

    And the "Berkutovites" are real men!
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  52. +6
    29 January 2014 12: 14
    Zombie invasion on the Maidan:
  53. MG42
    +3
    29 January 2014 12: 15
    Quote: akut
    SBU on the side of money

    We have a video circulating in the media from yesterday where a special forces soldier of the SBU "Alpha" speaks about criminal orders and that he took an oath to the Ukrainian people, and not to the authorities, and therefore resigns, this is a short translation, in addition there is a video of some employees <<Golden Eagle>> and <<Griffin>> with the same theme >>
    By the way, Alpha = this is the most trained special forces and the most combat-ready
    1. +1
      29 January 2014 15: 11
      Quote: MG42
      SBU special forces <<Alpha>

      If a special forces soldier, then where is the uniform? And if you are no longer a special forces soldier, then why cover your face? Something looks suspiciously like misinformation.
      1. MG42
        +3
        29 January 2014 18: 12
        Quote: Anper
        If a special forces soldier, then where is the uniform? And if you are no longer a special forces soldier, then why cover your face?

        You probably don’t know the specifics of special forces very well. This is Alpha - one might say the elite of the special forces. especially if the sniper is a counter-terrorist combat unit. What kind of idiot would show his face? laughing oh yeah, the girl in the profile...

        In general, I’ll say something that is not popular on this site >>> but Berkut is much lower in rank than Alpha, take the liquidation of Dyakaev’s gang in Odessa consisting of 3 people = 2 Chechens with Ak machine guns and grenades and one local from Odessa who fled with a pistol . 100 Berkut soldiers fiddled with them for more than 5 hours to no avail, before they themselves suffered losses from the Chechens in the l/s, until Alpha arrived from Kyiv with special equipment and eliminated them in 20 minutes, although the hotel in the center of Odessa suffered significant damage. damage.
        1. 0
          30 January 2014 20: 58
          Is this the case with shooting from an armored personnel carrier within the city?)
          PS
          Quote: MG42
          oh yeah, the girl is in the profile..

          winked
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  54. +6
    29 January 2014 12: 18
    47 European integrators were charged in Zaporozhye
    Unfortunately, they can all be released under the new amnesty law.
    1. DMB-78
      +4
      29 January 2014 12: 45
      releasing bandits under an amnesty is nonsense!!!! this means showing others that power is a rag and you can do whatever you want with it.
    2. +4
      29 January 2014 15: 02
      Quote: Egoza
      47 European integrators were charged in Zaporozhye
      Unfortunately, they can all be released under the new amnesty law.

      Lawyers, if they want, can extend the period of detention “due to newly discovered...”.
  55. +2
    29 January 2014 12: 20
    Yanukovych is still a liberal. When he was eager for power, he shouted so much that we are with Russia for one thing, and he himself surrendered the country to the fascists without a fight. He finished playing with democracy, now he will get an asshole and will be thrown out of the presidency.
    In general, Ukraine has no luck with the government, as they separated and only liberals are caught.
  56. +2
    29 January 2014 12: 22
    organize on the website the acceptance of various payments to the fund to help injured BERKUT fighters. with a counter of the number of people, as a moral incentive that we support them. at least 10 rubles. from every phone.
    1. DMB-78
      +2
      29 January 2014 12: 33
      Quote: valken
      organize on the website the acceptance of various payments to the fund to help injured BERKUT fighters.

      already exists, although not on the website. look above, EGOZA. she has details for transferring money. yesterday she said that a million hryvnia had already been collected
  57. +3
    29 January 2014 12: 23
    The last hope remains!
    If the Berkut soldiers stand until the end of February.
    After the start of the Olympics or after its completion, I hope our country will be more decisive and tougher. To break this gay position.

    But no. Annex the eastern part of Ukraine and Sevastopol to Russia through a referendum.

    And put an iron curtain on migration from Western Bandera Ukraine.
  58. +10
    29 January 2014 12: 39
    The Swiss and the King

    By the summer of 1792, the French Revolution had been going on for three years. The Constitution was already in force, and Louis XVI was not an autocratic king “by the grace of God,” but a constitutional monarch, vigilantly watched over by parliament - the National Assembly. That is, there was every opportunity to carry out any reforms in a legal, constitutional way.

    However, on August 10, 1792, the Tuileries Palace (from October 5, 1789, which became the residence of the king instead of Versailles) was besieged by the “rebellious people,” but in fact by battalions of Marseille volunteers, who, just like the Petrograd garrison in 1917, instead of fighting with the interventionists, they preferred to “deepen and expand” the revolution in their own capital.

    The palace was guarded by the king's Swiss guard, which had been significantly reduced in number in the previous revolutionary years, but, nevertheless, remained faithful to the monarch and the oath and was ready to engage in battle with the rebels. The king ordered not to resist, surrendered to the rebels and was taken “under protection” by the National Assembly. This did not stop the crowd from attacking the guards who were left without leadership. The Swiss put up heroic resistance, however, after the betrayal of the king, they no longer had a chance. About 800 people died on the spot. About 600 more (mostly wounded) were taken prisoner and almost all died in prisons or were torn to pieces by the mob on the way to prisons.

    The betrayal did not help the king who betrayed his guards. On January 21, he was executed by the verdict of the new parliament - the revolutionary Convention, which usurped all power in the state and launched a bloody terror that cost the lives of not only the king and queen, but also their executioners and tens of thousands of ordinary Frenchmen.

    In general, the weakness of Louis XVI, his indecision in suppressing the rebellion in the period 1789-1792, the actual capitulation of legitimate power to the rebels, cost France over 4 million lives (with a total population of 35 million people - over 10%). These people died during the revolutionary terror, and then the revolutionary and Napoleonic wars.

    Today, a similar drama is unfolding on the streets of Kyiv, threatening to become a national tragedy. Several thousand rebels, mostly fascist militants, are paralyzing the normal life of not the capital, but the country. Moderate oppositionists (if there are any) are unable to negotiate. There is already a civil war going on in the country, in which self-defense units formed in the megacities of the southeast are confronting terrorist gangs moving to seize regional state administrations from the “polonynas” of Galicia.

    The security forces are demanding an order to restore order. “Berkut” is ready to fulfill its duty to protect not only the legitimate government and integrity of the country, but also citizens, themselves, and their families from the fascist mob. The President is silent. The situation is getting more and more out of control, although the authorities may think that they are in control. Every minute of delay in establishing order increases the likelihood of the country collapsing into bloody moloch. The lives of five million residents of the capital are under threat, which today or tomorrow may turn out to be a front-line city, with all the accompanying “charms”.

    Security forces loyal to the authorities can restore order relatively quickly. A month ago they would have needed hours for this, today – days. There is no confidence that the government, having lost its sense of self-preservation, will not commit betrayal and will not capitulate under guarantees of “personal safety” from some Ashton. These guarantees are not worth a damn, and Yanukovych finds out about this much faster than “Citizen Capet” (former Louis XVI) found out. But it’s so tempting for a weak ruler to shift responsibility for his own and the country’s fate onto the shoulders of “European mediators”...
  59. +3
    29 January 2014 12: 44
    Quote: Xoxo4un
    Putin said that it is important for Russia to help the PEOPLE of Ukraine

    It is important to help the people of Ukraine wise up. The people of Russia have learned to distinguish freedom and order from “lawlessness,” now it’s time for the Ukrainians to curb their bandits themselves.
    1. +7
      29 January 2014 14: 00
      Quote: Uncle
      It is important to help the people of Ukraine wise up. The people of Russia have learned to distinguish freedom and order from “lawlessness,” now it’s time for the Ukrainians to curb their bandits themselves.

      And don’t believe the howls of Bandera’s nationalists about “independent nenka”, their rat shit nenka.
  60. +7
    29 January 2014 12: 44
    The retired guys promised to find the amounts and recipients and payers of funds allocated to the Maidanists and mass disinformation, we will provide them with maximum reposting, whoever can help with the claims, I think the Russians are paid directly, the “media group” is trying hard.
  61. +3
    29 January 2014 13: 16
    Nothing “bends” indefinitely. Everything has a limit. The Bandera grandfathers were not put under pressure in their time. I think the limit of people’s tolerance is not far, the time has come to “get back” what was lost.
    1. +1
      29 January 2014 13: 54
      For those who don’t understand, everything is much worse. For young Ukrainians, the Benderites are simply patriots. Not fascists, but fighters for the independence of Ukraine from the “grabbing paws” of the bloody Russian Empire. The continuity of generations is lost, brainwashed, the children of these children will belong to Russia already how we feel about Poland. Although a hundred years ago Poland was a Russian province, or like Finland. Just a neighboring country and EVERYTHING.. And I’m afraid there’s no way to reverse this trend. Of course, many will think or write that we need to explain, educate, our blood ties...But who will explain and educate? That’s right, no one. The matter will be limited to the next shit in the comments. It’s too late. Neither money nor propaganda will help. During the Ukrainian crisis, I shoveled a bunch of Ukrainian resources. The main thing is that we don’t need Benders, but we don’t need Russia either. We want it ourselves.
      Of course it hurts and hurts. But we also need to come to terms with this loss. Without letting go of the past, we will not build the future. We will have to somehow deal with ourselves and the lying gay Europeans. We must first grind down our liberals and businessmen accountable to the world oligarchy. We must first improve the lives of our citizens. And only then return...
      And you know, I even want Ukraine to become close friends with the EU. Let the Ukrainians get what they want. They get it and try to live with it.
      In any case, the time has come to say goodbye to Ukraine. We had a good time together, but you won’t be nice by force. Come back.
      1. +1
        29 January 2014 16: 44
        Where did you get the idea that all Ukrainians want this? In general, the authorities themselves should not make such a decision. A fair referendum - its results should be the decision
      2. +1
        30 January 2014 20: 03
        Donbass, even today, is ready to become part of Russia! good drinks
  62. +2
    29 January 2014 13: 22
    In parting, I respectfully shake hands with a man whom many of my acquaintances are ready to lynch. World has gone mad!

    same situation. people are simply morbid, infected and need to be treated.
    But the world is not going crazy, it’s just going to hell!
  63. +3
    29 January 2014 13: 43
    Our government must be terrible. S. Bandera

    There is no pro-Russian government in Ukraine, there are only pro-Ukrainian ones in the government and pro-fascist ones on the Maidan.
    The pro-fascist government is trying to intimidate the population of Ukraine with atrocities against the Berkut, hiding behind the backs of pathological idiots, ordinary people who stupidly hate the government and the Berkut members.
    The Maidanists simply don’t understand that Berkut and their Maidan creatures are protecting them from Bandera’s lawlessness.
    Berkut will leave and the Nazi militants Bandera will rob, rape and kill them in their own apartments.
    1. +1
      29 January 2014 16: 59
      There are no pro-Ukrainian politicians in Ukraine. At least I don't know anyone like that.
      1. +1
        29 January 2014 18: 54
        Quote: Maverick78
        There are no pro-Ukrainian politicians in Ukraine. At least I don't know anyone like that.


        You don’t know Yanukovych, the most important pro-Ukrainian politician?
        Perhaps many people don’t like his Ukraine, but there is no other one yet.
        Nationalists Bandera are now trying to impose a different Ukraine on the people.

  64. +2
    29 January 2014 13: 43
    Make a broadcast to Ukraine and the whole schedule 24 hours a day.
    Allocate funds and resources to fight neo-fascists and extremists,
    with the involvement of the local population and the organization of roadblocks.
    Block the supply of funds to the Maidanists.
    Particularly distinguished for corrective action. work for 10 years without the right to vote and be elected.
    Create a committee to restore order and restore.
    Organization and holding of early elections.
    1. DMB-78
      +1
      29 January 2014 14: 00
      Quote: Siberia
      Particularly distinguished for corrective action. work for 10 years without the right to vote and be elected.

      ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss, Yanukovych preparing an amnesty for them am
  65. +1
    29 January 2014 13: 45
    The media... Whether in Russia or Ukraine, they do not pursue national interests. Whatever it is with Berkut and the cops, the main thing is that the pitaras were not allowed and they rushed to offend the “peaceful” demonstrators.
    1. 0
      29 January 2014 15: 17
      Quote: kirgudu
      Media... Both in Russia and in Ukraine they do not pursue national interests

      How is this not being persecuted? This is how the news is presented (bold text mine)
      The Russian authorities were harshly criticized against representatives of Western countries and call for an end to overt interference in the affairs of sovereign Ukraine.
      And this is harsh criticism from the same article:
      “The statements of a number of Western politicians who unceremoniously interfere in the internal affairs of Ukraine and deliberately provoke destabilization of the situation in the country cause bewilderment and indignation.”
  66. smersh70
    +1
    29 January 2014 14: 33
    Yeah.....the same articles about Ukraine and the same comments from the same visitors. smile
    1. +6
      29 January 2014 15: 07
      Quote: smersh70
      Yeah.....the same articles about Ukraine and the same comments from the same visitors.

      The hottest topic...
      Do you think that Azerbaijan will be forgotten, and NOBODY is going to try the Ukrainian scenario of events in Baku?
      1. smersh70
        +2
        29 January 2014 17: 55
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        The hottest topic...

        Yes, everything will be tip-top)) they’ll sort it out))))
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        NOBODY is going to try out the Ukrainian scenario of events in Baku?

        as Zhirinovsky said yesterday, we are in fifth position)))
        Well, here’s another thing - Answering a question about the attitude towards the information disseminated in the press about the Freedom House initiative to carry out a coup, the head of the department of the Presidential Administration said that no force is capable of committing or organizing a coup in Azerbaijan.
        “In general, there is not a single structure in the world today that is capable of carrying out a coup in Azerbaijan, since Azerbaijan is quite stable, capable of defending itself and has strong civil unity against external interference. Most importantly, the political course of the state is clearly supported by its citizens and people. Naturally, such attempts can be made, but they will not give any real results,” said Ali Hasanov.
        1. +3
          29 January 2014 18: 15
          Quote: smersh70
          as Zhirinovsky said yesterday, we are in fifth position)))

          Yes... The unscheduled Solovyov “Sundays” have begun... laughing
          Quote: smersh70
          In general, there is not a single structure in the world today capable of carrying out a coup in Azerbaijan.

          I think so too...
        2. 0
          30 January 2014 10: 28
          "The chicken pecks at the grain" ...

          Two radical Islamist organizations operating in Azerbaijan - Mesha Gardashlars (Forest Brothers) and Jayshullah (Army of Allah) - announced the start of hostilities against the Azerbaijani authorities.

          These radical groups, which once created a serious terrorist threat in Azerbaijan, issued a statement on social networks the day before.

          According to the Azerbaijani website Jam.az, the person who distributed the statement on behalf of the Forest Brothers organization noted that the Azerbaijani authorities should expect military operations soon.

          And the statement of the Army of Allah organization says that they will soon declare jihad (holy war) in Azerbaijan.

          The site reports that members of these terrorist organizations have fought in different countries during different conflicts, mostly under the control of the Wahhabis. Currently, many of them are fighting in Syria against government forces.

          The Azerbaijani portal “Musavat.com” reports that the son of the mayor of Baku, Hajibala Abutalybov, Israfil Abutalybov, and the son of the former minister Sevil Zeynalov, Haji Ainut, who own large businesses, provide financial support to the Wahhabis and are in close relations with them.
  67. +5
    29 January 2014 14: 52
    I am amazed and admire the tenacity of the Berkut and VV soldiers!!! And at the same time, I don’t envy the Maidan workers at all. No matter how they frighten with reprisals, the rest of the time they themselves will be haunted by fear for their own skins. After all, the euphoria of the herd will someday end, and then when they want to drink from the well into which they are so defiantly now defecating insight will come. But it will be too late. And I want to say to the fighters that they evoke sincere good feelings and worries of all reasonable people. But it will be necessary for you, and your families, we will stand with our breasts, as you stand against the plague.
  68. +3
    29 January 2014 15: 17
    <<<Why do they hate you (Berkut)?>>>
    The author is confusing something! Who hates Berkut? Euromaidan banderlogs? Vice versa! Of all those involved in the events on the Maidan, the Berkut fighters evoke exceptional RESPECT for their steadfastness, discipline, and loyalty to their duty, despite numerous provocations and attempts by Euromaidan scumbags to organize a bloodbath! But the current government in Ukraine is NOT worthy of such respect, which, in fact, is one of the reasons for the events taking place there! But this does not at all give the right to any Euro-frozen followers of Bandera and Shukhevych to try to overthrow the government and impose their will on the entire people of Ukraine!
  69. +12
    29 January 2014 15: 17
    A government that betrays its loyal defenders only causes disgust.
    I immediately remembered:
    - hunchback and Riga riot police,
    - fuck and his drunken setups, when... I don’t want to remember.

    Neither the Army Men nor the Security Forces NO LONGER TRUST such power.

    GET HEALTHY, GUYS!!!
    Berkut - Respect to you.
    1. +1
      29 January 2014 22: 34
      Bravo!!! I agree 10%! This is not the president! The guys would have ended this mess a month ago!!!
  70. +4
    29 January 2014 16: 16
    By communicating, I am refuting for myself the most recent grievances of opposition leaders towards the security forces. My interlocutor is smart. No matter how much the People's Deputy of Ukraine Lesya Orobets wants it, the Berkut soldier is smart and logical.


    What did the journalist want to see - a trained muscle-monkey? Oh those stereotypes...
  71. +3
    29 January 2014 16: 28
    Quote: hort
    Interestingly, what would the Maidan people (and the same Yanek) do if the Berkutovites were tired - they put on everyone with a device and a full staff, so to speak, would they leave, say, to Sevastopol (or to the Crimea in general)? Well, purely hypothetical. “Svoboda” with “Right Sector” would start gushing?

    They are already “wetting” each other. In Lviv they cannot divide the regional administration building.
    1. 0
      30 January 2014 20: 46
      A completely natural situation! Let’s take a short excursion into world history. The Great French Revolution - as soon as the revolutionary battles died down, the revolutionists began to kill each other with terrible force, not forgetting about the OUTDOORS (Marat!). The Bolshevik Communist Party united with everyone until the October coup, but as soon as it was all over, it began to drive away its allies until the early 40s, the results are known to everyone... The Palestinian Resistance fought hard with eligible representatives of the Israeli tribe, but as soon as they made radical concessions, and then their leader Arafat died in God, then internecine squabbling began! There are plenty of examples... When a common enemy disappears, they begin to look for it within their own.
  72. acute
    0
    29 January 2014 16: 52
    Quote: Vasily123
    Do you want to make keirOppu from Russia am am am no and no again am UKRAINE SHOULD HAVE DECIDED ITSELF WITH ITS DIRECTION OF DEVELOPMENT, forget about the Union ....... Crimea will not leave us)) and the rest .... see the attitude of the population towards us .... (((and we need it on the neck ????

    From whom from you and why are you so confident? There is no need to write nonsense. In Crimea, Ukraine has enough problems with the Tatars. Do you want this headache?
  73. +3
    29 January 2014 17: 01
    I completely agree with the author and the policeman! I carefully watch the Ukrainian TV channels - their owners have given the same attitude - “the cops are bloodthirsty animals, they offend cute kids, they don’t let them play with matches”, information sites are also “tailored” to a “black and white version”. “Black” are undoubtedly the authorities, “white and fluffy” are Nazi militants. The site 2000.net.ua is trying to show the point of view, NOT the maydown. But it is little promoted. And the authorities, not noticing the Tyagnibok's "summer militant training camps" and indulging them, got the current revolt. And the electorate, which only a couple of years ago allowed PR to win, after their “Euro-turn” and “departure into nirvana” of power for the last two months, HAS CURSE THEM AND WILL NOT VOTE FOR PR!
  74. acute
    0
    29 January 2014 17: 05
    Quote: 31231
    They pressed him slowly but surely. "Partners" fuck him through the media and he loses


    Another delirium. "Pressed", "gouged".
    This is a foreign policy, and not a collective farm named after Lenin, and gorlopanstvo and whooperosity at the meeting will not understand. You blame Putin. And what have you personally done for the country that you blame the person who leads the largest power for a third term?
    The same defeatist-moaning Natsiks in Western Ukraine lost, because instead of opposing them, they blame the authorities.
    But serious people were found in the East and South of Ukraine, and not defeatists, and they repulse the Rugul. And you, as before, wound your snot on your fist on the Internet.

    Why nonsense? I elected this president, and I work for the good of the country. Well, of course, your services are marked with orders and medals? And in the South and East there are no special protests (compare Maidan 50000 and Sevastopol 5000). But there were attempts to seize administrations there too. I don’t blame Putin for anything, but you are a radical. This is called "throwing a dagger at the... In general you
  75. +2
    29 January 2014 17: 55
    It’s a pity for Ukraine and its people if the opposition is led by such degenerates https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHqT4XSg_Q4 Tell me who your leader is and I’ll tell you who you are. And regarding GDP, I also do not approve of his current actions and words, but I understand perfectly well that at the moment his hands are tied by the Olympics. As the games go, I think the rhetoric and actions will change.
  76. So_o_tozh
    +3
    29 January 2014 18: 40
    Among my friends, opinions are divided; the fact is that Berkut supports the legitimate government. But now legitimate power belongs to Janek and the rest of the Gopniks from the Party of Regions. This is a paradox, all of Ukraine has become disillusioned with the president, with the government ruled by a handful of oligarchs, which has plundered the entire country and which Russia is saving by issuing a loan. You are indignant at your thieves, but you don’t understand to what extent the economy in Ukraine has reached the point of collapse because of the thieves in power. The average salary in Kyiv is 400 killed raccoons, my wife works as a laboratory assistant in a clinic, with a salary of 125 USD, while she is currently undergoing the so-called. The “reform” forces everyone to officially pay for tests, which was previously free. Now they are not a clinic, but an organization renting premises, one more step and will be taken over. Even the southeast has seen the light from Yanek over the years, only because of the Banderlogs on the Maidan with their slogans, people in the Donbass and Crimea do not allow seizures by the administration, and not because of the thoroughly corrupt authorities. There are oligarchs in Russia too, but you still don’t forget about the people, you are proud of your army, a strong president, the authority of the country, but what do we have to be proud of? NOTHING, over the 20 years of independence we have had a period of theft that has become more and more active. The people are tired, everyone wants to see Yanyk in prison, but of course none of my friends want a revolution, which is what everything is actively moving towards.
    1. DMB-78
      +5
      29 January 2014 18: 53
      Quote: So_o_tozh
      the fact is that Berkut supports the legitimate government

      and they swore an oath to the state, not to the president. and what should they do? break the oath? then they must be tried under any authority. no one trusts those who violate the oath, just like traitors
  77. +3
    29 January 2014 20: 10
    I asked a friend about the situation, she tells me not to care about politics, my husband is a sniper sitting there, and they throw bottles of gasoline and even urine, of course I’m afraid, I know one thing that throwing cocktails at living people is unacceptable unless they are attacking your home or Motherland.
  78. Bandera
    -12
    29 January 2014 20: 23
    Berkut is simply doing his job.
    1. Slavon76
      +2
      30 January 2014 10: 15
      Hell yes! It does its job. And he remembers the oath he took. And he defends not a slug as president, but, above all, the common people and the Constitution. Yes, this is legitimate power. Yes, this is the power of thieves and prostitutes. But this is LEGITIMATE power, and not the shitty chaos of the revolution. I am very sorry that you do not understand such obvious things.
  79. Kowalsky
    +3
    29 January 2014 20: 28
    Thanks to the guys from Berkut from the Ukrainian people.
  80. Ukrainian
    -4
    29 January 2014 21: 46
    I will write in Russian, otherwise you won’t understand!
    You! What are you shouting about especially “gifted and talented”? Which of you was there? No one? Then what are you talking about?
    Watch, read and enjoy: https://www.facebook.com/hestniy.maidan
  81. +1
    29 January 2014 21: 54
    I am amazed (once again) by the cowardly position of our authorities! Putin declares to the whole world that we will not interfere in the situation in Ukraine, we will not support anyone, we will not withdraw our loans if the opposition comes to power. At the same time, Obama declares full support for the anti-government forces of Ukraine.

    But what if this is not a cowardly position, but a thoughtful move. Ask yourself the question cui prodes (who benefits)! My purely opinion is that not only the states need a rebellion in our fraternal republic.
    And mind you, the Olympics will be held again soon. What I mean is that we already know how to force peace. Again, the principle of divide et impera (divide and conquer) has not been canceled. Therefore, Comrade Polovec, you may be right, but we’ll see.
    P\S I feel sorry for Ukraine! So to everyone who is now standing against this lawlessness, I mean the golden eagle, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the military and just ordinary people, I wish you strength and perseverance to overcome these dark days for the fatherland.
  82. +1
    29 January 2014 22: 10
    just no comments.....
  83. +2
    29 January 2014 22: 29
    Shame on Yanukovych! He is not the guarantor of the Constitution of Ukraine! People entrusted him with the state, but he almost lost it! , meets with some inadequate people from the EU! And why? Yes, obviously, he is afraid that the accounts of him and his brilliant offspring will be blocked in the banks of the EU and the USA!!! And Donbass, having voted for the YAWF, now hates him! MED-VED -CHUK!!! This is the most acceptable option for today!
    1. +1
      31 January 2014 03: 48
      Quote: santush
      HONEY-VED-CHOOK!!!

      Submit at least ONE STATEMENT to the court of responsibility MED-VED-CHUKA on the situation in Ukraine and his opinion on the way out of the crisis...

      Stop swallowing dust in search of...
    2. sapran
      +2
      31 January 2014 03: 58
      MEDVECHUK People, have you gone crazy? Or ordinary provocateurs?
      sold weapons to both Armenia and Azerbaijan and a dozen other countries...
      Personally responsible for the “go-ahead” for the use of uncertified drugs in Ukraine,
      author of various criminal schemes for adapting “raiding” in Ukraine.
      A rare soul -...
  84. +1
    29 January 2014 22: 45
    Quote: Ukrainian
    You! What are you shouting about especially “gifted and talented”? Which of you was there? No one?

    ...........deleted by moderator Apollo, can't you see anything at all? Wipe your zenki from amna. There are a lot of people from Ukraine here and you want to say that they are all lying?
  85. +7
    29 January 2014 22: 49
    THE COUNTRY SHOULD BE PROUD OF SUCH PEOPLE!!!
  86. +1
    29 January 2014 22: 59
    In such cases, units like Berkut are the only possible defense that does not involve a lot of blood. So both the authorities and the opposition should say THANK YOU to them. If there were no Berkut, there would be troops and a lot of opposition blood.
  87. +1
    29 January 2014 23: 09
    and why do I need your Facebook?
  88. +1
    29 January 2014 23: 15
    A real officer! Yes, he is something to be proud of.
    And we also need to be proud of those young guys from the VV, who for several hours without shields withstood beatings with chains, sticks, stones, without responding (there was no order) to provocations, but never allowed the bandits to reach government buildings. As long as there are such guys, there is hope for the best. These are real patriots of Ukraine.
  89. lightman
    0
    30 January 2014 02: 59
    Quote: Polovec
    It amazes me (once again) the cowardly position of our authorities! Putin throughout the world declares that we will not interfere in the situation in Ukraine, we will not support anyone, we will not withdraw our loans if the opposition comes to power. At the same time, Obama declares full support for the anti-government forces of Ukraine. About the fact that all Western and Amersky trash squeals about this from the beginning of the conflict and adds fuel to the fire it is said a thousand times!
    Why can not we support our interests in Ukraine?
    In my Soviet youth, we instilled a sense of modesty. It was a shame to be arrogant and selfish. The interests of society have always been placed above personal interests.
    I have a feeling that our Power is shyly standing on the sidelines and is afraid of being accused of "personal interest", while our sworn friends are not at all embarrassed in their choice of words and means.
    If Putin declares to the whole world that we are interested in maintaining order in Ukraine. That power should change as a result of elections, not pogroms. That we will not lend to bandits.
    What will happen?
    I think that will inspire respect! After all, we were able to do this in Syria!
    Stop being "tolerant"! It must be getting brutal! After all, the symbol of Russia is the Russian bear, not the hare!

    Guys, believe me, there is a tough fight going on behind the scenes and in Kyiv everything is coordinated with Moscow.
  90. MATPOCO
    +5
    30 January 2014 03: 13
    And I personally am disgusted to listen to the beast from the Maidan, who chose the police units as their enemy. This is devoid of sense and common sense. This demonstrates the limitations of their thinking and betrays their true intentions, which boil down to the desire to simply engage in hooliganism and fight to their heart's content in the streets. The true goals and enemies of the revolution are in a completely different place and on a different plane. The real enemies of the people sit in three-story cottages and steam in a jacuzzi while the gentlemen of the Maidan make their fingers bleed, breaking out cobblestones from the avenues of once beautiful streets, paved with the money of normal taxpayers. I, as a representative of the people of Ukraine, am against the cobblestones put on my money. as a taxpayer, was broken by someone’s dirty hand and sent towards people who are called upon to prevent such actions. And I, as a representative of the people, express an acute misunderstanding of the need to maintain well-trained and superbly equipped elite units of police special forces, which are actually sent to protect public order in order to be there as a victim, and not to remove stinking biomass from the streets. This, of course, is a question for officials who are unable to adequately assess the situation and are afraid to make decisions. In this case, too, they managed to rob me by paying my salary and equipping me." amusing companies”, which I would like to see in action, and not in inaction. I express my deep gratitude to the guys from SPMON Berkut for their steadfastness and devotion to duty, patience and courage, being face to face with the Banderlogs, carrying out an essentially criminal order not to touch them. and respect! No attempts by the media to present them as enemies have any effect on me and I support every blow from their side to the neck of stupid students, radicals and pro-Western journalists who go where they shouldn’t.
  91. +1
    30 January 2014 08: 27
    Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
    Ukrainian pro-Russian government.
    Excuse me generously, is this Yanukovych a PRO-RUSSIAN government?
  92. 0
    30 January 2014 08: 44
    I gave the article a plus, but it doesn’t leave a feeling of some cheap artificiality and unprocessed material. What kind of medical phenomenon is this - “the liver was torn”? During my entire service in the army I never heard of a spatula or shovel being sapper. What does it do in the internal troops? CHILDwhose helmet was broken with a MINESPOOL, and, finally, what kind of helmet is this that can be broken with this very shovel? Do what you want with me, but this is bullshit. You should at least check what you wrote...
    1. Slavon76
      +1
      30 January 2014 10: 30
      So you need to understand that the article was written by an illiterate journalist. It seems that he only reproduced the responses of the Berkut employee in the most general terms, and thought out the chilling details himself.
    2. +1
      31 January 2014 02: 53
      Quote: Basilevs
      What does a CHILD do in the internal troops, whose helmet was broken with a MINESPOOL, and, finally, what kind of helmet is this that can be broken with this very shovel?

      A conscript (a boy of eighteen years old) is now also a CHILD for me. Yes, he is a SOLDIER, and he must act in accordance with the Oath,BUT... when a scumbag thug rushes at him, I feel sincerely sorry that without an order he cannot do what he was taught to protect himself, his comrades and civilians...

      And the helmet, an ordinary helmet, plastic with a visor, was developed back in the USSR for law enforcement agencies and it is quite possible to break it... (photo of a Berkut employee, VV has the same ones)

      The Small Sapper Shovel in skillful hands is a terrible weapon that can rival any chopping weapon in terms of effectiveness...
      Quote: Basilevs
      Do what you want with me, but this is bullshit.

      It’s a pity that in the article you “caught” only the “technical” component... It’s unfortunate.
  93. Slavon76
    +3
    30 January 2014 10: 35
    A little copy-paste from Regnum.ru:
    “The situation is aggravated by calls from some Euromaidan activists to beat family members of Berkut fighters.” “This is cruel. But we have no choice. Who knows where at least one Berkut member lives - make a “fun” life for them: set fire to doors, break out windows, beat their wives and children (it hurts to write this, but it’s necessary - no sympathy). This is a chance to stop the garbage that is killing us,” the ex-candidate for people’s deputy from the opposition wrote about this on his Facebook page Andrey Lozovoy.

    Details: http://www.regnum.ru/news/1757712.html#ixzz2rrgXiGjd
    And after such statements, does anyone else have illusions about these monkeys?
    1. +2
      31 January 2014 01: 32
      Actually, he’s being sued for this - it’s a call for violence - and on a massive scale. I don’t know if there is an article for such calls, but in “democratic countries” they are already in jail for this.
      We need to create a precedent and sue him. Since you're on Facebook, you don't have to look for witnesses. Scanned copy and prosecutor's office.
      1. 0
        31 January 2014 02: 25
        Quote: Cristall
        We need to create a precedent and sue him. Since you're on Facebook, you don't have to look for witnesses. Scanned copy and prosecutor's office.

        И SO with everyone who committed outrages, called for them, and financed them.

        One problem: AMNESTY for geeks...
        Apparently THESE will not be subject to jurisdiction sad
        1. sapran
          0
          31 January 2014 03: 28
          It is USELESS to prove anything. One reason
          -...We are all participants in the regatta!!!
          That is, no one is going to cancel or curtail the Information Operation.
          Some should clearly know that there are degenerate drunks and banderlog fascists
          the second one, like “our father”, needs to be memorized that “nenka is in the fray” and Daunbasovtsi-zaprodantsi
          Here comes the flow across the target audiences .. "Divide and conquer"..
          Since the times of the Roman Empire, there has been no rush to change this postulate.
  94. +1
    30 January 2014 12: 46
    Quote: Rubs
    "Italy legalizes pedophilia and ..."

    It's funny to hear our worst curse word at Euromaidan - pida..sy !, which flies like a flock of birds overhead. Do our European "partners" know that their "worthy" ones are despised by everyone from school, including those who are eager to go to Europe or consider themselves European? And even those who have convinced themselves of the positiveness of this "natural phenomenon" and recognize their rights, yell - pid..sy at an extreme degree of irritation.

    But if you do enter into gayropa, then, as they say, like it or like it, love my beauty!
    1. philip
      +1
      31 January 2014 06: 31
      For reference, RUSSIA is geographically a European country. That’s why we don’t really need to go to gayropa. And the fact that in 45 a Russian soldier brought home a gramophone to replace the gramophone he already had was Hitler’s merit. This is where the so-called European culture ends. And if necessary, we will love you again.
  95. kobzar10
    0
    30 January 2014 16: 45
    "Berkut" is on the front line, and in the rear, their loved ones and relatives are also in danger. We need a law so that the data of law enforcement officials is kept private. Hang in there, you are doing your job, and God forbid your families endure all this!
  96. sapran
    0
    30 January 2014 19: 49
    what a mass of “enlightened” people...
    Reading your comments and advice, I would like to wish you only one thing - "... Peace to your home"
  97. philip
    0
    31 January 2014 05: 53
    GLORY to the golden eagle, I couldn’t do that, if I could endure it, I wouldn’t hate it.
  98. acute
    0
    31 January 2014 10: 14
    Quote: DanaF1
    Quote: akut
    The same thing again. you wishful thinking

    don't blame the mirror ...

    in psychology there is such a thing called transfer ...
    this is when their thoughts and emotions are attributed to others ...

    along the way, you are doing this ...

    Along the way, the narrowness of your thinking is very similar to the narrowness of your horizons. I don't judge your mental abilities. But it's clear that you're a rabid fanatic.
  99. acute
    0
    31 January 2014 10: 27
    Quote: just EXPL
    tell how his western masters ordered him not to surrender Syria and beat the Georgians.
    I'm sooooooooo interested, now you’ll probably tell me so much information, truthful information, I crave impatience with details.

    Russians are dying out at the rate of 1.5 million per year. Well, only a weak-minded person won’t understand how this could end. What do you think, the government doesn’t understand this. Therefore, some, and I repeat some, conditions are being created so that the population does not rebel, such weakly ongoing forced activities to “prevent the Russians from dying out too quickly.” This includes the fight against external enemies and “increasing pensions” and a number of other aspects. But neither in industry, nor in agriculture, nor in science, nor in education are there any concrete steps. Yes, they throw handouts at you so that you don’t shout loudly about what you lack, and that’s where it all ends.
  100. acute
    0
    31 January 2014 10: 36
    Quote: IOwTZ
    I agree. The exhaust is not very scarce, but it does not exist at all. I already wrote that for 14 years of the golden reign, at exorbitant oil prices, we received only the parent NAKAPITAL.

    Have you noticed how those who write something that does not correspond to the official assessments are downvoted? you are rabid radicals. You don’t even want to listen to people who say something different from what you want, I’m not talking about the fact that you don’t want to think at all