Military police are endowed with law enforcement functions.

The military police will be the only body in the Armed Forces with law enforcement functions. Igor Sidorkevich, the head of the core board of the Ministry of Defense Igor Sidorkevich, announced this today on the radio station Ekho Moskvy.

According to him, the relevant law, adopted by the State Duma 24 deputies of January, gives military policemen broad powers to counter crime, ensure law and order in military units. They, in particular, have the right to detain, inspect, use physical force: fighting techniques, firearms weapon and special tools. In addition, by order of the Minister of Defense, military police can already conduct surprise checks in the garrisons — they can enter military units at any time of the day and do everything necessary to ensure law and order there.

Sidorkevich said that the structure of the military police will include the Moscow Central Command and regional administrations in each military district. They will be subordinated to the 140 military commandant's offices, the 39 guardhouse, the 2 disciplinary battalion, as well as the military traffic police units.

Future military police officers will be trained at the faculty of the military police, specially created in Moscow at the Military University. And in the future, a separate Institute of Military Police may be established. In the meantime, its staff is recruited mainly by officers of the reserve with a higher legal education.

Now for the military police are developing a special form of clothing. In addition, the Ministry of Defense developed a draft Charter of the military police. This document, not counting the law, will become the main regulatory act regulating the activities of the new army structure. According to some information, this Charter will be approved by the president of the country. As for the law, on January 29 he has to go through an approval procedure in the Federation Council. After his document will be passed to the approval of the head of state.

Igor Sidorkevich recalled how this law interprets the basic functionality of the subordinate structure: "The military police is a body that is designed to protect the lives, rights and freedoms of servicemen and civilian personnel, citizens called up for military training, and also to respect the rule of law, road safety. "

Comments

[gispanec]

ahead of upcoming events ?? .... maydanutye now and we will not give rest ....

[tronin.maxim]

Correct me if that! It seems to me like it was in Soviet times, or am I mistaken?

[jjj]

Did not have. The command of military units was engaged in the inquiry. The military investigation dealt with crimes, the military prosecutor's office observed the law, special departments were engaged in operational work. There were still military commandant's offices. They retained all their functions now. And the police will be engaged in police affairs as well as in the civilian

[soldat1945]

All this is ridiculous for every investigator of the military police there will be some kind of soldier with a legal education who is seconded to help the commanders will not be able to prevent this, since no one wants to quarrel with the head of the military police in the garrison and as a result there is another parasitic structure, we’ll send him to the prosecutor’s office, military-investigative department, for counterintelligence we are seconding for protection, damn it, who will soon serve? Why it’s simply impossible to regain the commander’s right to administrative arrest, because now, with all these committees of soldiers’ mothers, the zeal of the prosecutor’s office and the stick criminal record system is the only punishment for a soldier of military service is a reprimand and a severe reprimand for a decrease in the rank they simply don't give a damn about! Military police alien to the traditions of the Russian army, the body is still breadcrumbs!

[waisson]

in Soviet times, you could often see the military aviation and the army patrol was a soldier order soldier gave a military honor at a meeting and now a soldier at a meeting with an officer pass and spit in his direction

[alone]

Quote: tronin.maxim

Correct me if that! It seems to me like it was in Soviet times, or I'm wrong

I only remember VAI. But I don’t remember the military police

[Civil]

In order to avoid neutrality as in Ukraine now.

[zart_arn]

Initiative necessary and topical.
The legal status of the created law enforcement unit is not entirely clear. It is necessary to create a legal framework, because the rule of law has not been canceled, and the charter and order, alas, often diverge from the norms of the current legislation.

[DuraLexSedLex.]

Actually, the idea has been around for a long time. The VP introduced the identity for a long time, now apparently just introduce legal framework. I hope, given the specifics of the military as such. Actually, they will ensure that no one touches the soldier with their finger, and that they, in turn, do not break the rules (to help the direct commander, so to speak). - correct.

[Alekseev]

Quote: DuraLexSedLex.

Actually, it is they who will ensure that no one touches the soldier with their finger, and that they, in turn, do not break the rules

Quote: DuraLexSedLex.

.If you wrote something wrong, correct it.

Dear, in order to make sure that "no soldier touches his finger", and even more so "so that they, in turn, do not violate the order, you must be in the unit, in the barracks with them. And not in the commandant's office. , often, hundreds of kilometers from this very barracks sit.
For this, commanders-chiefs from the squad commander and above are provided.
Military police must be staffed, and the unit commander is the military "head of the ROVD". He is responsible for everything. And has the appropriate authority. And he is being watched by a senior chief and a military prosecutor.
So it was always and everywhere, the centuries-old experience of the military arrangement taught. Only we have "fresh" ideas. What will be the result?
And so

[DuraLexSedLex.]

Dear thanks for the clarification

[muhomor]

Absolutely right! The commander of the unit is the One-Man. And now it turns out that the ensign VP can elementarily nightmare the regiment.

[Gregazov]

The impression is that the institute of the EP should replace the institute of political officers (now educators). Educational deputies have lost authority and leverage over power as compared to political representatives. Instead of the educational process, a process of intimidation is introduced.

[kelevra]

This is for the possibility of using in peacetime, when suppressing riots and non-peaceful demonstrations! After all, in order to introduce troops to settle the situation, you need a special order of the president and introduce a state of emergency. it needs advanced functions too!

[muhomor]

To suppress the rebellion, we have an explosive. A VP is needed for internal army use. Only the status she needs to carefully consider. Otherwise, the actions of the EaP may conflict with the current Charter of the Aircraft. And you get some reason.

[treskoed]

I am confused by the subordination of the military police to the Minister of Defense. Once again, it’s possible - not to make dirty linen in public! Better if subordinate to the Ministry of Internal Affairs! And it’s more logical, because it’s not engaged in defense, but in restoring internal order.

[creak]

Do not tell me - the cops will maintain order in the military garrisons, for example, in the places where the nuclear submarines or the Strategic Missile Forces are based, and the incorruptible traffic police should be attached to the commandant’s offices ... They can’t put things in order, they can’t cope with the vegetable warehouse (they forgot about East Biryulyovo). ... here the other day Kolokoltsev piled heaps in the Moscow Central Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs ...

[Al_lexx]

It is high time to restore order in the troops. And at the same time to establish, Department of Internal Investigations, so that there would be someone to look after the military police themselves.

[creak]

And who will control the Internal Investigation Department? So will we produce supervisors? We also have military counterintelligence in the sun ...

[Al_lexx]

4 creak
And here the counterintelligence did not understand.

The Internal Investigations Department is a fairly compact organization that is easier to keep clean than the entire police force. That’s why.

Of course, you excuse me, I don’t know how much you are an adult and how much you understand what I am writing, but it seems to me that I am saying simple, obvious things.

[creak]

I’m an adult person and if you think that you are saying obvious things, your right ... If everything is so obvious to you

[creak]

Al-lexx / What does the military counterintelligence here, I do not understand ...

Military counterintelligence currently, along with the performance of its specific functions, is also engaged in abuse of service (in conjunction with the military prosecutor's office), i.e., in fact, issues of internal investigations. An adult needs to know such obvious things ... And the functions of the military police are much wider - read the relevant Law and it will open to you ...

[ia-ai00]

I think it is very timely to suppress the lawlessness, both in military units and outside them, and so that such "Maidanism" does not spread across Russia.
And why "clatter" with maiduns in Ukraine, I don’t understand ???

[queen]

They can still roll administrative protocols with resolutions ?????, maybe I don't catch up with something, but I'm afraid of something when I go to "power".

[SHOCK.]

Innovation is necessary, but useful whether-time will show.

[mountain]

Everything is new, well forgotten, old.
Undoubtedly, such a service in the army is necessary.

[parus2nik]

Strange as it may seem, the military police will restore order in the army, not the commanders .. Kotovsky fought without a military police, as Shulgin recalls, it was simple for Kotovtsy: Kotovsky did not order, not the military police ..

[Al_lexx]

There is a military police all over the world.
And in the Red Army, order was put in order by political instructors, since almost the entire command staff was from the party, and if the political commander said that there was a mess in the unit and it was necessary to put things in order, then everyone would break down, as if they were undermined to restore it. Now there is no leading role for the party, as in the majority of armies in the world, therefore we need a VP. So, Kotovsky may be a "fierce shchors", but it's not only and not so much about him, but about the revolutionary tribunals, in which the same commissars played an important role.

[muhomor]

Well, I never would have thought that what order in Kr. army on the commissars kept.

[Al_lexx]

Quote: muhomor

Well, I never would have thought that what order in Kr. army on the commissars kept.

And who did you think he was holding on to?
On commissars and osobisty he kept.

[pawel57]

The order rested on a communist ideology, and the political leaders and commissars introduced it. You have read and seen enough of prozhidovskih media.

[pv1005]

Dear, did you serve in the CA to say so?

[Gregazov]

Such a system exists in almost every army. In the Russian army (until 1917), it was called the military gendarmerie.

[scientist]

Previously, the main functions of maintaining discipline and law and order were with the deputies for educational work and their departments. However, their career growth and conditions of service strongly depended on the commander, who was not profitable to take out "garbage from the hut", from here non-statutory hazing and hazing. Now order will gradually be restored. It will be almost impossible to hide the coming in part. The main thing is that the military police itself does not turn into a feeding trough for former police officers who were dismissed from the authorities, such as of their own free will, but in reality due to a lack of evidence of corruption and abuse of office. As experience shows, for example, the introduction of military police in Kazakhstan, such a feeding trough for fabricating criminal cases for a tick or excuse for thieves and war criminals who missed in time is formed very quickly.

[muhomor]

And then the educators are political? Only in our army (and in the police) there is rock-solid law — not the criminal, but his commander is punished for the crime committed. This leads to concealment of the crime. All irregularity and criminality because of this insanity. How many times it happened: a policeman drunkenly makes an accident, and upon analysis it turns out that he was fired just three days ago. What does this say? And the fact that the chief of this policeman is trying to get himself out of an undeserved blow. I think that commanders should be punished for the crimes of subordinates. But only when concealing a crime.

[7Sergei7]

In particular, they have the right to detain, inspect, and use physical force: military techniques, firearms and special means. In addition, by order of the Minister of Defense, military police can already carry out surprise checks in garrisons - at any time of the day go into military units and do everything necessary to ensure law and order there.

Strange, law and order ?! What is military counterintelligence doing then? What then will the deputy commander of the anti-personnel unit, who have been reintroduced, be engaged in? In general, it turns out very strange, there is counterintelligence, which has access to the units at any time of the day, there are also prosecutors and there will still be military police. The result for one officer is three oversight officers. From personal experience, I had contact with people who are recruited into the military police, at best 11 classes + 1 year of service in the army. Ministry of Internal Affairs, only in profile. Therefore, it is not necessary to say that this will improve the situation in units. To date, officers are appointed to the posts of commanders who can only speak their tongues. And everything depends on the commander and no military police are needed.

[colonel manuch]

But the role of the unit commander and officers cannot be belittled in any way, a certain package of documents is needed defining the so-called "golden mean" it would be true that the role of the military police was performed by one of the services of the special department (without additional staff from among lawyers -mourists, especially from the Ministry of Internal Affairs

[jjj]

Military counterintelligence (special departments) identifies spies, saboteurs, traitors in the Armed Forces, and is not involved in fire safety and drunken personnel

[shelva]

Army life is very different from civilian life, and another attempt to make it more "civilized" can negatively affect combat effectiveness. Discipline, execution of orders and much more are the features of military service that are not inherent in civil society. Servicemen have not been released from the observance of the basic laws of the state before, the military prosecutor's office monitored internal disciplinary violations and crimes - they were asking, why a new structure?

[APASUS]

How justified is the appearance of this structure?
After all, if the officer’s authority is not in the barracks, and the soldiers call him the jackal, then no police will save the soldiers from hazing.
After the fact, come and make out the flight?
So this authority of the prosecutor’s office was enough!

[Yarik]

Al_lexx Today, 11:41 AM
It is high time to restore order in the troops. And at the same time to establish, Department of Internal Investigations, so that there would be someone to look after the military police themselves.


Q. And also the super department of internal investigations to oversee the internal investigations department.

[pawel57]

The decision is right. Just how it will be executed. The military police should not be subordinate to the commanders, but on the territory of the unit the police are obliged to carry out events notifying the command and with its assistance, and if the events are urgent and take place, say at night or on holidays, without fail and in the presence of the duty officer. Of course, these activities should be carried out within the framework of official authority. I see the subordination district and MO. Relatively small units with physically developed people having light weapons and various military equipment armored. A certain interaction should be with the Ministry of Internal Affairs. They are obliged to carry out patrol service, probably traffic police, assisting commanders in the suppression of military crimes and their prevention, probably serving in a guardhouse, monitoring and maintaining order together with the Ministry of Internal Affairs in military camps, etc. Do not take wartime. He must probably promptly obey the commandant of the garrison, but not in all matters. In general, all these control and repressive organs must be somehow connected. Military police, prosecutors, courts, commandants and commandants, unit commanders, guardhouse and disciplinary battalions, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and local government agencies. management, FSB. How to do this should be decided by people from the General Staff and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB and the state. thought.

[valokordin]

All is well with this police, if only u
that police did not replace commanders and influence their combat activities

[Marconi41]

Military police are a must! The reasoning that everything should be done by commanders is fundamentally wrong. Commanders must engage in combat training units. And now, in the army, platoons are sitting and sprinkling over investigations into the misconduct of their subordinates. Hence the concealment. Often, officers are punished far more than the guilty soldier. In addition, the EaP will be able to apply such punishment as arrest. The guardhouses have covered up for a long time and therefore it comes to the point that commanders use their own fists to admonish an unbelted conscript, and later go on trial. Well, let the VP deal with the culprits and not with those who are easier to punish. The main thing is that there would be no excesses.

[Alekseev]

Quote: Marconi41

The reasoning that everything should be done by commanders is fundamentally wrong. Commanders must engage in combat training units.

I did not find such reasoning.
And here is the argument that the unit commander is the one-man boss, and he is obliged not only to engage in combat training, but to establish in full the "life and activity" of troops is also in the Charter of internal service. For without this and there can be no normal combat training.
So dictates the experience of the development of military affairs since time immemorial.
Commandments should be "tools" for establishing this very "life and work": rear, even outsourcing, but not perverted, including the military police. To investigate and prevent illegal acts. No "military police-controllers" are needed. There is a prosecutor's office, there are commanders of formations and districts. They are personally responsible for the entire range of problems, must be empowered, make decisions and enforce them.
Thoughts that the commanders of units and subunits are some kind of professorial-treacherous staff are fundamentally not true and can arise only in people terribly far from military service.
The unit commander, especially in the war, is your Central Committee, and your Kalinin, God, judge, father, law. On another it is impossible. History has proven it many times.
Few of these? Our problem, we must work, choose a normal power, etc.
No police will help here, neither military, nor civilian, nor secret. The people there are the same.