Ukraine: option "B"

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Ivan Khivrenko. Maidan. 2012 100х200 see. Author technique


Euromaidan ended with Euro-fascism, we guessed it - what can I say! - his “second day” knew about it for a long time, but they were afraid to speak in full voice, they were afraid to cry out misfortunes, they thought: can “carry it through”? Not carried by. The prefix "euro" here is decisive, it was "Europe" that fueled the Bandera fascists.

Our Western "friends" tried to make neo-fascism in Ukraine bloom with assault troops, and today they have blessed them to demolish the "Yanukovich regime", and the Western media wear masks of "peaceful demonstrators", "protestors", and "activists". In fact, act as an informational weapons Bandera: it's their "sons of bitches."

The legally elected president V. Yanukovych is negotiating with the political "roof" of the militants: Klitschko - Yatsenyuk - Pyagnybok. The main thing is Klitschko, although in reality only a neo-Fascist Tyagnybok can influence the situation, and here lies a lie, ostensibly for salvation. What is salvation? What can you negotiate with a fascist? Oh yes, the West insists on it ...

Yanukovych follows in the footsteps of Gorbachev, trying to "politically settle" what is not regulated in principle. It comes under pressure from Western politicians, under the threat of sanctions, which they, when the catastrophe breaks out, will be forgotten, and will laugh in response to reminders of their pressure: they will say that these are just words that were not legally issued, as they said to Gorbachev in due time. All responsibility will be imposed on Yanukovych, and "this Ukraine." You can not dance to someone else's tune in your country, but we dance and dance, not realizing that the horror endlessly will inevitably end in a terrible end.

Western policy in Ukraine to stimulate fascism is, in fact, not news. It was first applied in the early twentieth century, when the West "pacified" Adolf Hitler, in recent times the policy of "pacifying" the aggressor was applied in Yugoslavia, when pacifying Kosovo and other militants, and demanded the same from Milosevic, as they are demanding from Yanukovych today. How it ended for Milosevic - it's time to remember Yanukovych.

The West supports “its” national fascists in Ukraine (as well as in Georgia, Syria, and other “transitional” countries) just as Hitler once supported his Sudeten Germans in Czechoslovakia, who also covered up the militants. The scheme is the same: “peaceful demonstrators” followed by militants.

But today, “peaceful demonstrators” are paraded, in front of cameras, broadcast to the whole world - Goebbels did not have this technology, it is entirely the know-how of the Western media. At the same time, they do not disdain to snatch episodes from the context, and, without explaining the other side, broadcast as acts of barbarism of the “regime”, when they can be an ordinary provocation. In war as in war, informational! Why shouldn't our press pay attention, for example, to the recent sensation: materials have been collected about cruel and even sadistic treatment of British soldiers with detainees in Iraq. In England they explain: these are “isolated cases”, while hundreds of testimonies are gathered ...

In general, Western policy in Ukraine is simple as a chicken egg: the Euro-Fascists break the “Yanukovych regime”, then to power in the “democratic elections” they lead a slightly disguised Euro-Fascist, as in Kosovo, under Western control, it is slightly humanized, and the fascists who have completely lost their human appearance can be will even judge in the Hague, as Yugoslav accomplices of the West, not very painful. In case of need, the West can suddenly “see the light”, and then they will be destroyed simply as gangsters; it is not easy to prove it, but very simple.

In order to influence the situation in Ukraine, Russia needs to speak with the West, Washington, Bandera fascist inspirers, and the customers of the music he performs, in their language, that is, without regard to diplomatic polite, as the West itself does in such cases. And do not mark the "change in its tonality."

Surprisingly, Vladimir Putin shows an example here, he does not hesitate to call the mayhem by his name. For this, the Western press harasses him with special cynicism, and a third person in the political hierarchy of the United States, an analogue of our State Duma Speaker Naryshkin, publicly called on the TV show the President of Russia "gangster". And what about our media, which should be more free than the president, to call a spade a spade? They are shy, or vocabulary does not allow, and it is inconvenient to ask the president ...

Today we can only hope that the Euro-Fascist pogroms will sober up many, both in Ukraine, in the West, and in Russia. And Ukraine’s slide into civil war will still be stopped. “Fascism will not pass!” - Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine write on banners, they understand what is happening and openly talk about it. Russia needs to be ready to assist the population of Ukraine in the face of Euro-Fascism, with or without Yanukovych. Considering that the West and East of Ukraine are becoming more and more incompatible within the framework of one state, this circumstance cannot be hidden behind streamlined phrases.

And you have to be ready for option "B". Ukraine enters an uncontrollable phase of "negotiations", that is, the collapse of the country. With enemies who are determined to “tear down” you cannot be finished. This is nothing more than a euphemism for decay. The fascism of Ukraine for more than twenty years, of its western regions, has borne fruit - Euro-fascism has taken on the organizational forms of militant groups, its political form - the Freedom party is represented in the country's parliament. This abscess does not resolve itself by itself. In Greece, however, the neo-fascist party “Golden Dawn” was banned, and its leader and parliamentary deputies were arrested, but for Ukraine, the West has a different scenario.

The West set out to split Ukraine, tearing down the “Yanukovich regime” to tear off at least “its own” western piece, since it did not work out euro-associating - to swallow Ukraine entirely. Yanukovych, one way or another, will answer for the breakdown of this colonization, which he did not allow to swallow all of Ukraine at once, if he does not have time to escape to Donetsk. Although this is a weak guarantee.
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  1. +48
    27 January 2014 08: 37
    Yes, the picture is somewhat aligoric, but the most joyless all this gangster-zapadensky revolution is likely to lead to this, it’s enough to recall the arrival of full-blown progressive Europe to Ukraine in 1941, and the same Jews were the same and killed their compatriots for the shem of German fat just as with joy, they burned and destroyed everything created by the hands of Ukrainians without regret - these reptiles have no nationality, they never create anything, they only destroy and are the hands of European progressors who do not need a state like Ukraine, and by and large the people too .It is time for people to understand this, and to turn up their heads for these worms of the human race and to work and build their country.
    1. +57
      27 January 2014 08: 52
      Either Yanukovych will go to a military solution to the Maidan problem, or Ukraine will fall into two (at least) parts.
      1. +56
        27 January 2014 09: 01
        Quote: Canep
        Either Yanukovych will go to a military solution to the Maidan problem, or Ukraine will fall into two (at least) parts.

        The steam engine has already shown stoplights for a long time ... Now, a little another alternative is either a lot of blood and the introduction of emergency situations throughout Ukraine, the prohibition of fascist parties, the capture and landing of militants and their leaders, or the collapse.
        Knowing the spinelessness of Yanukovych, the first option disappears sad
        1. +65
          27 January 2014 09: 09
          surprisinglybut the example here shows Vladimir Putin who is not shy about calling the pogrom his name.


          What is surprising? GDP has long proved that he has a character.

          Today we can only hope that the eurofascist pogroms will sober up many, both in Ukraine, in the West, and in Russia.


          That's when everyone will understand that the Russian March is the foundation for a civil war in the Russian Federation, then it will be possible to breathe calmly. Ato in each article howl about the titular nation and chock .... What kind of indivisibility and ignorance? And the Nazi symbols on the Maidan and on the Russian March are generally a song!



          But the real Russian March looks just like that! Where the word Russian is not determined by a specific ethnic group, but implies our heroic people!


          There are criminals, and there are civilians. There are, but there are educated people. There are a lot of them among the Russians and among the Tatars and among the Chechens, but it was the Caucasians who got all of them ... All this is fueled by our press and an active forum and some other public, because the Headline "Russian killed / raped / robbed a Russian kopeck piece / a guy in the center of Moscow" does not have such a resonance as "A person of Caucasian nationality is suspected of attacking a resident of Kolomna"

          Well, what's the difference between cattle from the Caucasus or cattle from central Russia?



          But the concept of "people" in our land has never been divided into groups by nationality.

          1. +22
            27 January 2014 09: 09
            Slogans "Stop feeding the Caucasus" Moscow in general sounds idiotic, since all the money from all over Russia goes to the capital, and most people who support this slogan live in subsidized regions themselves, but why there are no slogans "Stop feeding the Far East" or enchanting "Stop feeding my region"?



            The Soviet Union was ruined by the nationalists, now they also want to ruin Russia, and they can do this only with the hands of the population, and it’s Russian.
            Again, recall the calls for the separation of Chechnya and the whole of the North Caucasus? So let's take off also Tatarstan and Bashkortostan, are extremists spotted there too? In Moscow, they are also missing.

            When you have it in your yard, you need to clean it, and not to rearrange the fence and scream that it is not yours.
            These are our NAK fighters.

            So, the events in Ukraine are a lesson to all of us.

            People just bred on "justice" и "patriotism"replacing the basic concepts of these words.
            Justice becomes the slogan "Select and divide, and bourgeois count", and indiscriminate criticism of everything and everything that is in your state becomes so-called patriotism "disagreement"
            1. +9
              27 January 2014 09: 26
              The USSR could not collapse nationalists, the Nazis yes, but not nationalists, I remind you Stalin was a nationalist! But the Bandera Nazi (fascist).
              1. +23
                27 January 2014 09: 32
                Quote: TiGRoO
                The USSR could not collapse nationalists, the Nazis yes, but not nationalists, I remind you Stalin was a nationalist!


                It all depends on what to put into the concept of a nationalist, if it is a patriot who understands all his people by the word "nation", not dividing it into good and bad, then these are norms, the same Stalin raised a toast to the Russian soldier and often joked about by the Georgian members of the Central Committee, when they, in order to please him, said toasts in Georgian, to this he replied "He still thinks I'm Georgian, hehe!".

                But what we saw in 1991-1993, what we see now in Russia and Ukraine, cannot be called patriotism (nationalism), but they do - the substitution of concepts and the recipe for national poison are ready, please have a bite
                1. +7
                  27 January 2014 10: 04
                  So I’m talking about the same thing, they can call themselves whatever they like, but in reality the Nazis and fascists ...
            2. +14
              27 January 2014 10: 00
              Moscow donor? Yakutia dot.reg, Chelyab.dot reg zdurly chtol fool
              1. +9
                27 January 2014 10: 35
                Quote: Petr1
                Moscow donor? Yakutia dot.reg, Chelyab.dot reg zdurly chtol


                Alas....
                http://www.gks.ru/bgd/regl/b12_01/IssWWW.exe/Stg/d01/fin-gos1.htm
                http://www.gks.ru/bgd/regl/b12_01/IssWWW.exe/Stg/d01/fin-gos.htm

                As for Moscow, she lives at the expense of the whole of Russia.
                1. +17
                  27 January 2014 11: 18
                  Quote: sledgehammer102
                  Alas....

                  You see. Under Russian law, an economic entity pays taxes at the place of registration, and not at the place of business. Therefore, the card given by you has little relation to the real "subsidies" and, accordingly, is a weak argument.
                  1. 0
                    27 January 2014 11: 31
                    Quote: ctepx
                    You see. Under Russian law, an economic entity pays taxes at the place of registration, and not at the place of business. Therefore, the card given by you has little relation to the real "subsidies" and, accordingly, is a weak argument.


                    Subsidies - there are subsidies. But if you follow your logic, then Chechnya drops out of the list of subsidized regions immediately, since oil is extracted there many times more than money comes from Moscow.

                    Well, it’s just funny, as about the Caucasus, then any information on subsidization is met with a bang, and as soon as the opposite is shown, "Not-not-not here, it was considered wrong, here this and this is not taken into account ..."
                2. +1
                  29 January 2014 15: 05
                  The budget of Moscow for 2013: 1 trillion. 695 billion rubles.
                  The budget of Chechnya (not the city of Grozny, but the entire republic) for 2013: gratuitous and irretrievable revenues from the federal budget of 39 billion 370 million 933 thousand rubles.
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            3. +30
              27 January 2014 10: 04
              Quote: sledgehammer102
              The slogans "Stop feeding the Caucasus" in Moscow generally sound idiotic,

              You must have never been a friend in Moscow since socialism?
              Show your iPhone a picture, let him rejoice, drive along Tverskaya, Tula, Vladimirskaya and other regions. you will see how people live. This is not Kadyrstan and Ingushia, this is central Russia. If you are Russian, you will wipe a tear. And maybe you will explain to everyone why in Ingushia, in the most impoverished region, fences cost more than houses in the Yaroslavl region.
              1. +9
                27 January 2014 10: 30
                Quote: ele1285
                Show your iPhone a picture, let him rejoice, drive along Tverskaya, Tula, Vladimirskaya and other regions. you will see how people live. This is not Kadyrstan and Ingushia, this is central Russia. If you are Russian, you will wipe a tear. And maybe you will explain to everyone why in Ingushia, in the most impoverished region, fences cost more than houses in the Yaroslavl region.


                Well, yes, of course, you have to take something beautiful in one sister and compare it with something terrible in another. In Ufa, I can also do a lot of this, like this is how richly they live in the village of "March 8" and next to stick a photo of some kind of INORS - a rather dark area. And voila! In contrast!
                Provocateurs work in much the same way.


                You can do this, Wedb Far East is the leader in subsidies in the Russian Federation.


                Well, or how are these houses in Mnushetia so different from the houses in central Russia?


                Or how do these houses with walls differ from houses in the suburbs?
                1. +20
                  27 January 2014 11: 12
                  Quote: sledgehammer102
                  Well, yes, of course, you need to take something beautiful in one sister, and compare it with something terrible in another.


                  Man, I didn’t want to upset you in any way. I don’t know how they live in Bashkiria, but in the central region of Russia they live poorly. You can’t take the word for it. But if you have friends, acquaintances or friends, ask them. 75 order % of men go to Nerizinova to earn money. And believe me not from a good life. And pictures, this is nonsense, why not Switzerland or Norway? And about leadership in the regions, I should probably take it per capita. Although I may be wrong.
                  But it would be better instead of those who shoot in Moscow at weddings, normal people came, who believe me, would be welcome here.
                  1. 0
                    27 January 2014 11: 27
                    Quote: ele1285
                    I don’t know how they live in Bashkiria, but in the central region of Russia, they live poorly.


                    So where does the Caucasus and Ingushetia? In any region there are poor and rich, but there is a middle class. The average salary in the Russian Federation is equal to 29 to thousands, separately for the regions it varies from 15 to 60.

                    Quote: ele1285
                    As for leadership in the regions, we should probably take it per capita. Although I may be wrong.



                    Quote: ele1285
                    But it would be better instead of those who shoot in Moscow at weddings, normal people came, who believe me, would be welcome here.

                    About the same can be said of any other people living in the Russian Federation. Someone shoots in the air, and someone burns the buttons in the elevator. Gopota has not yet died out, just like b * s * d * l * o.
                    Say what you like, in the coming years 10 the problem will remain, but it will gradually decrease if there are fewer Russian marches and aggressive calls for radical solutions to very delicate problems, well, the media naturally, without them.
                    1. +7
                      27 January 2014 13: 31
                      Well, you radically decide very subtle problems. They killed, raped, robbed those Russians who lived in the northern Caucasus. republics. Until everyone was kicked out (Chechnya, Ingushetia, Dagestan). Then they began to kill and blow us up on our own land. Homes, schools, hospitals, trains, buses and planes.
                      10 million Caucasians came to us. Good.
                      Then came 20 million Central Asians. Okay.
                      Then 50 million Afghans-Pakistanis-Bangadeshis will come. You will also be frightened by agents of Omerika?
                      1. -1
                        27 January 2014 14: 16
                        Quote: virm
                        Well, you radically solve very subtle problems. They killed, raped, robbed those Russians who lived in the northern Caucasus. republics

                        You are a complete jerk! I personally went and killed everyone, drove out and blew up! Super!

                        Maybe you will not confuse saboteurs trained in American training camps with the money of the Saudis and ordinary citizens of the North Caucasus, who didn’t need a war, but two ruined and * n * a * nosed rulers assured such a sabbath.
                      2. +2
                        2 February 2014 22: 08
                        Quote: sledgehammer102
                        I personally went and killed everyone, drove out and blew up!



                        How did you get with your owners !!! How much did you get paid this time?
                      3. Don
                        +6
                        27 January 2014 14: 28
                        Quote: virm
                        10 million Caucasians came to us. Good.
                        Then came 20 million Central Asians. Okay.

                        laughing Why so modest? Let’s write 50-100 million.
                      4. +3
                        27 January 2014 20: 47
                        Quote: Don
                        is it so modest? Let’s write 50-100 million.

                        laughing to write 100 million, you need to find them))) where are we going to collect so many to send to Russia))
                      5. Don
                        0
                        30 January 2014 14: 08
                        Quote: lonely
                        to write 100 million, you need to find them))) where are we going to collect so many to send to Russia))

                        laughing good Well, you really try so that people like Wim could still write such comments.
                      6. Don
                        0
                        30 January 2014 14: 08
                        Quote: lonely
                        to write 100 million, you need to find them))) where are we going to collect so many to send to Russia))

                        laughing good Well, you really try so that people like Wim could still write such comments.
                      7. ben05
                        +2
                        27 January 2014 19: 11
                        I don’t know how the Caucasus, but the Russians in our city have a decently concrete ISBERBASH
                      8. 0
                        28 January 2014 08: 05
                        10 million Caucasians came to us. Good.
                        Then came 20 million Central Asians.


                        Did you count it yourself? In the Caucasus and Central Asia, then no one lives now?
                    2. +6
                      27 January 2014 17: 00
                      sledgehammer102, on the map above you give some figures of subsidies per capita, in the table below, they are different. Which of your calculations is false?
                      1. -1
                        27 January 2014 19: 48
                        Quote: Mihaylo Tishayshiy
                        sledgehammer102, on the map above you give some figures of subsidies per capita, in the table below, they are different. Which of your calculations is false?


                        No, one of them is newer, one is older. The difference is one year.
                    3. +5
                      27 January 2014 19: 25
                      difference in average salaries by 4 times depending on the region isn’t your problem?)))) on your list of subsidies Moscow is somewhere close to the end of the list with 3k rubles of subsidies) but one of the biggest average salaries)) Do you really believe that numbers?)))

                      recently I began to read an article about the pension reform, just the first phrase from memory "an article for the middle class about behavior in a new pension reality (by the middle class we mean a family with an income of 50k per person)" did not read further, the person does not understand at all what the real median the average salary is much less than 29k.
                      there is a problem, a huge problem, it will have to be solved, and until it is solved it will be all sorts of non-comrades speculating on it with phrases that feed the Caucasus, Ingushetia, Moscow.

                      For example, when I live in the region, I would like my taxes to mostly settle in the place where I live) I want for example teachers, doctors and all other professions in my city to receive the same money as in the capital, because they are no less and no worse work. but somehow it’s still not so) but not so far ...... well, you yourself understood.
                  2. +8
                    27 January 2014 11: 53
                    Quote: ele1285
                    Man, I didn’t want to upset you in any way. I don’t know how they live in Bashkiria, but in the central region of Russia, they live poorly

                    A person will always feel bad if he has not done anything to improve his own situation.
                    A rolling stone gathers no moss...
                    1. +3
                      27 January 2014 12: 23
                      Quote: stalkerwalker
                      A person will always feel bad if he has not done anything to improve his own situation.
                      A rolling stone gathers no moss...


                      Bill gates said that between z * a * dnitsa and sofa the dollar will not fly.

                      Often, such people here are cited as an example of what kind of poor people we have


                      But the number of self-critical people can be judged by the following schedule

                      As we see, in the Russian Federation they know how to look for someone who can be blamed for their problems.
                      Although it must be admitted that a certain percentage of them are right, but far from being as critical as here.

                      The most objective, in my opinion, is the following division.


                      It fits into the saying "Who wants - is looking for a way, and who does not want - a reason."
                      1. +2
                        27 January 2014 17: 12
                        Quote: sledgehammer102
                        Bill Gates said that the dollar will not fly between the s * a * dick and the sofa.

                        Even if the whole country becomes cancer, as the Bely Gates, Prokhorovs, Abramovichs and other "hard workers" wish, dollars will still fly by (into their pockets).
                      2. +5
                        27 January 2014 17: 12
                        Quote: sledgehammer102
                        Bill Gates said that the dollar will not fly between the s * a * dick and the sofa.

                        Even if the whole country becomes cancer, as the Bely Gates, Prokhorovs, Abramovichs and other "hard workers" wish, dollars will still fly by (into their pockets).
                  3. +7
                    27 January 2014 18: 30
                    It’s not normal for normal people to come to Moscow, to Russia.
                2. Anatoly. RUS
                  +1
                  27 January 2014 17: 21
                  Quote: sledgehammer102
                  Well, yes, of course, you have to take something beautiful in one sister and compare it with something terrible in another. In Ufa, I can also do a lot of this, like this is how richly they live in the village of "March 8" and next to stick a photo of some kind of INORS - a rather dark area. And voila! In contrast!
                  Provocateurs work in much the same way.

                  YOU ARE EXPERIENCING FOR THE CAUCASUS, AND NOT FOR THE CENTRAL REGIONS = BELIEVE TO THE CAUCASUS AND BETTER IN CHECHNYA, so that you ... there ... in everything ... to the most ... OR sledgehammer102 to "" his "" "shot ???? ?
                  PICTURES ARE PROVOCATIONAL, IT WILL BE BETTER TO ME BETTER THAN A REVERSE.
              2. peter_sh
                0
                27 January 2014 16: 29
                "why in Ingushia, in the poorest region, fences cost more than houses in the Yaroslavl region."

                Yes, if only because they do not thump, to be objective. In the Caucasus, there has always been a "cult of the house". And the cult of the family at the same time.
            4. +24
              27 January 2014 10: 14
              I perfectly remember the separation of Ukraine and my fellow Ukrainians with happy faces said: Well, finally, now we’ll heal, and the Natsik screamed that the mustache was on, the result is said to the face, as soon as we start yelling about the same thing, other owners will come, and everyone who calls for revolutions, pogroms and other dreams of revolutionary-minded loafers and bandits should be outlawed, since in fact human relations cannot be applied to them and the arrogant killer and robber will never become a hard worker and defender.
              1. avt
                +11
                27 January 2014 12: 04
                Quote: ArhipenkoAndrey
                I perfectly remember the separation of Ukraine and my fellow Ukrainians with happy faces said: Well, finally, now we’ll live, and the Natsik screamed that the mustache was fat, the result on the face as they say

                Well, the rake hopak continues. laughing Moreover, we are again to blame with our vehicle and now they are ready, naturally taking off their pants in accordance with gayvrop norms, again to flee from the “Asian tyranny.” By the way, where are the euromaidan singers Kars and Captain Vrungel? regime of the bloody tyrant Yanukovych. Really fell for the euroselection on the barricades? In the sense of being frozen in them.
                1. Luzhichanin
                  +4
                  27 January 2014 13: 37
                  Quote: avt
                  By the way, where are the euromaidan singers - Kars and Captain Vrungel? It’s even boring without exposing the criminal regime of the bloody tyrant Yanukovych. Really fell for the election on the barricades?

                  Point drums beat rhythms of orders: assault, retreat, assault again ...
                  Golden eagles have already cut through, so that they will soon switch to pipes laughing
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                3. +3
                  27 January 2014 18: 52
                  Maidan is a rebellion of oligarchs against ,, Family ,, Yanukovych. When the ubiquitous State Department is blamed for everything, this is not so. If you look not at the dolls, but at those who control them, the picture looms different. Party ,, Freedom ,, nationalists-banderists -antisemitists-antiists, anyone on the forum will say that they are feeding ups of the USA and Europe, in fact, they are feeding ups of our dear, completely Ukrainian oligarchs, moreover, the Jews of Kolomoisky, Bogolyubov and others. The Party ,, Blow ,, Klitschko is on the table of contents Firtash’s oligarchic group, the piquancy of the situation is not that he is Jewish, but that he works very closely with Gazprom, moreover, until recently, he was an independent gas trader, to whom, for one well-known reason, Gazprom sold gas for several tens of dollars cheaper than to the state of Ukraine. The party, “Fatherland”, the main sponsors are Pinchuk, Akhmetov, Poroshenko and others. A smaller caliber. As Kozma Prutkov used to say: Look at the root. While you are looking for enemies across the ocean, they’re darling sitting near by, notice almost fed by Russia and the money of Russia.
                  1. +3
                    27 January 2014 19: 13
                    Quote: Motors1991
                    While you are looking for enemies across the ocean, their darlings are sitting at their side, notice that they are almost fed by Russia and with the money of Russia.

                    The edges are not tangled?
                  2. +1
                    28 January 2014 01: 05
                    Everything is so, but do not forget about geopolitics, namely, the tug of war Europe - Russia, and here the next thing Europe has no money for Ukraine, but we have, but there is such a state. Poland. which wants to become great again))) So they did not pay attention to the emergence of the Freedom Party when they organized the Orange Revolution, and now Europe is afraid of what will happen if the Natsiks come to power, so now there will be negotiations between Russia and Europe + the oligarchs of Ukraine, and what happens nobody knows ...
                    1. +5
                      28 January 2014 10: 30
                      Quote: TiGRoO
                      Europe has no money for Ukraine

                      Yah?... fellow
                      Europe - EU - USA "slightly" took offense at Janek, who refused to sign an enslaving (in fact, not feasible) Association Agreement. Remember the words of Angelka the Chancellor "If Yanukovych does not want to sign an agreement, he (the agreement) will sign other president. "This is the starting point of the Maidan.
            5. MAG
              +6
              27 January 2014 11: 13
              Since when did the Perm Territory become subsidized?
              1. +1
                27 January 2014 11: 21
                Quote: MAG
                Since when did the Perm Territory become subsidized?

                How with what, since Kadyr’s golden gun. You forgot that you need more diamonds on the barrel. Or you’ll shout that it’s enough to feed kau ....
                1. MAG
                  +2
                  27 January 2014 11: 26
                  The question was to Hammer, he is the author of the map. Many are fed, so I do not scream enough, but I scream when they STEAL regardless of nationality.
                  1. 0
                    27 January 2014 16: 50
                    Quote: MAG
                    Since when did the Perm Territory become subsidized?

                    Links to the GCS are given above.
                    1. MAG
                      0
                      27 January 2014 17: 03
                      http://www.online812.ru/ Ваши данные за 2011 год и не вполне верны ссылки за 11 год найду выложу
            6. -2
              27 January 2014 11: 42
              Quote: sledgehammer102
              .
              Again, recall the calls for the separation of Chechnya and the entire North Caucasus? So let's take off also Tatarstan and Bashkortostan, are extremists spotted there too?

              No need to juggle, no one speaks about the secession of Chechnya, it was the Russian land that the Russians conquered and allowed the aborigines to stay there, if Black does not want to live in Russia to throw them out of the territory, and who does not want to bury them in this land but the territory is ours and no one is going to separate it. Here, many write that they say that Yanuk does not have eggs can not disperse the Maidan, the same can be said about Putin why he doesn’t restore order in the Caucasus, nor what kind of contract villages, not any almonds with the local population, there are no peaceful the inhabitants are all hostile to us, to give the troops an order for an elementary cleaning of everything that moves, that does not move, move and destroy, and the whole problem resolves like a seam from Kashpirovsky.
              1. -4
                27 January 2014 16: 53
                Quote: Egorchik
                if blacks do not want to live in Russia to throw them out of the territory,

                And then they say that there is no nationalism in the Russian Federation ... It has long been known and understood that in the Caucasus not some mountaineers are fighting there, but ordinary terrorists are mercenaries for grandmothers, and not for the idea. And you are all about yours.
                1. +7
                  27 January 2014 17: 59
                  Quote: sledgehammer102
                  in the Caucasus, it’s not some mountaineers who are fighting there, but ordinary terrorists who are mercenaries for grandmothers, and not for an idea. And you are all about yours.


                  Well, yes, and they came from Ryazan, with accelerated courses of the Chechen language, organized by Putin laughing
              2. -2
                28 January 2014 01: 07
                Zhirinovsky registered on the site ????
                1. 0
                  28 January 2014 06: 54
                  Quote: Atlas
                  Zhirinovsky registered on the site ????


                  It's you, the boy "registered", and I live here, and for a long time hi
              3. ran42
                0
                28 January 2014 10: 10
                Isn’t it too cool, Yegorchik?
              4. +1
                29 January 2014 00: 43
                Quote: Egorchik
                No need to juggle, no one speaks about the secession of Chechnya, it was the Russian land that the Russians conquered and allowed the aborigines to stay there, if Black does not want to live in Russia to throw them out of the territory, and who does not want to bury them in this land but the territory is ours and no one is going to separate it. Here, many write that they say that Yanuk does not have eggs can not disperse the Maidan, the same can be said about Putin why he doesn’t restore order in the Caucasus, nor what kind of contract villages, not any almonds with the local population, there are no peaceful the inhabitants are all hostile to us, to give the troops an order for an elementary cleaning of everything that moves, that does not move, move and destroy, and the whole problem resolves like a seam from Kashpirovsky.

                And with this approach, it is possible to classify Ukraine as one of the unwanted. Do you propose to arrange a similar sweep there too? All such thoughts lead to mutual aggression. You need to be wiser and more patient. You need to distinguish between scoundrels and the people. Everywhere there are people who do not need foam at the mouth to prove the exclusivity of their nation and hatred of Russians. Many just need to cultivate the land, graze cattle and just live, without worries and cataclysms. We just need to help all of them in this (and ourselves, by the way, in the first place) and tension will pass. Why Janek brought the people to a state of neurasthenia ??? Why didn't Putya say - "Ay-ay, you lead people to hunger riots? This is our people too .. Here's a discount on gas, here's loans ..." And now we vehemently prove to our hungry and close relatives that they are wrong, that flooded to be indignant .. They didn’t want what is now .. And they didn’t think. When there is nothing to feed the family, you will go to any step that gives hope.
            7. +9
              27 January 2014 11: 45
              Quote: sledgehammer102
              The slogans "Stop feeding the Caucasus" in Moscow generally sound idiotic,

              Nothing idiotic. Immigrants from other regions do not fight the Russian state, do not produce terrorist killers.
              1. -2
                27 January 2014 16: 55
                Quote: Uncle
                Nothing idiotic. Immigrants from other regions do not fight the Russian state, do not produce terrorist killers.


                But they produce a huge bunch of alcoholics, who only kill 30 thousands of people in road accidents, they also produce such moral coves as Pomazun, Vinogradov, Chikotilo and the main ram - Yeltsin. And the only clear ruler in the 20 century in the Russian Federation was Georgian.
                1. +1
                  27 January 2014 17: 45
                  To paraphrase "comedy" (in the voice of Zaitseva's sister). Gorbachev and Yeltsin were indigenous, and Stalin was a gastrobeiter. Question: Can one guest worker do as much for the Motherland as the indigenous people do in their life?
                2. Veteran Vlad.
                  +9
                  27 January 2014 21: 59
                  Quote: sledgehammer102
                  But they produce a huge bunch of alcoholics,

                  But for some reason, these non-alcoholics go to doctors for "alcoholics", study with teachers "alcoholics"
                  "Alcoholics" work at the high-tech enterprises left over from the collapse of the USSR, creating missiles, aircraft, ships, nuclear reactors, turbines, etc.
                  1. -5
                    28 January 2014 04: 39
                    Quote: Veteran Vlad.
                    "Alcoholics" work at the high-tech enterprises left over from the collapse of the USSR, creating missiles, aircraft, ships, nuclear reactors, turbines, etc.


                    Let me remind you that Korolev is a non-Russian person, like Stalin.
                3. ran42
                  0
                  28 January 2014 11: 07
                  It’s a pity, 102nd, that you didn’t live with a Georgian, see "Two winters and three summers", but in fact it was 2 times worse. In 1947 I was 5 years old, the village was plump with hunger, and the city, as always, did not care about it, and the pension for my father, who died in 1942 near Rzhev (I was 6 months old), I, as the son of a collective farmer, was paid 2 times less than in the city. All my life I "thank" the Georgian for the happy "Georgian childhood". I admit one thing, his political role as a representative of the great three during the Second World War.
                  1. +2
                    28 January 2014 12: 26
                    Quote: ran42
                    All my life I "thank" the Georgian for the happy "Georgian childhood".

                    I can not help but note that my mother thinks exactly the same ... hi
            8. Veteran Vlad.
              +6
              27 January 2014 18: 00
              Quote: sledgehammer102
              But why are there no slogans "Stop feeding the Far East" or the enchanting "Stop feeding my region"?

              probably enough huh? hide behind other nations, do not hide behind the backs of other nations, but how the CLARKED PLATE, TIRED ALREADY, and here the Yakuts, Kalmyks, Tatars, Ainu, Evenki, etc. A problem with people from the Caucasus and Transcaucasia who feel impunity and permissiveness. They only want to SEPARATE. In which representatives of the diasporas say that the criminals do not have a nationality, but they themselves help their villains, hire lawyers, put pressure on cops, pay off, etc.
              YOU ASK Quote: Well, what's the difference between cattle from the Caucasus or cattle from central Russia?
              "Not good people from the Caucasus" commit crimes only against Russians, rape, rob, kill, And they do not touch their zemlyakov and zemlyachki that's the difference !!! and Diaspora leaders stand up for them
              And we need not only talk about the collapse of Russia if we separate the Caucasus. Here they separated: the Baltic states, Transcaucasia, Central Asia and others, and that Russia Died, collapsed?
              1. +2
                28 January 2014 01: 13
                That's the mayor of Makhachkala only touched the Russians and showered his gold)))) Do you even think before you write? Lawlessness and lawlessness must be stopped by the forces of the relevant authorities, and no matter the Caucasians or the Russians stopped the law, do not write nonsense ...
              2. -3
                28 January 2014 04: 41
                Quote: Veteran Vlad.
                "Not good people from the Caucasus" commit crimes only against Russians, rape, rob, kill,


                But does the indigenous population not do this? They even rape and kill their own, and yes, a lot of the indigenous population abandons Zigi and wears a swastika.
            9. +3
              27 January 2014 22: 09
              And you, my dear, why did you choose data on subsidized regions for 2010, you can be curious? Who cares, you can see here on this link data on donor regions from 1993 to 2011.
              http://www.politika.su/reg/donory.html
              hi
            10. saber1357
              0
              28 January 2014 00: 01
              And also it would always be necessary to repulse the question-and the nationalists of which nation (or tribe) ....
            11. Khan
              0
              28 January 2014 07: 36
              But did you know that all platinum, gold, wood, fish and all exports from China to Japan and all minerals from which the West of Russia lives and will continue to live are located in the Far East. This is the entire west of Russia subsidized. And without the Far East, Westerners will end you. In Siberia, reserves are depleted, and in the Far East they have not yet been touched.
            12. 0
              2 February 2014 21: 45
              Quote: sledgehammer102
              Again, recall the calls for the separation of Chechnya and the entire North Caucasus? So let's take off also Tatarstan and Bashkortostan, are extremists spotted there too?


              I am Ukrainian, but what you write about is not known from the yellow press, but I personally encountered.

              Your comment resembles the speech of an "activist" from the meeting's desks .... a lot of words, but everything is somehow illusory.

              At least there would be such pi2do5ols like you and it would be easier to live in Russia
          2. +6
            27 January 2014 10: 05
            Time goes by and lackeys of European Tolerasts and dem. the progressors are the same, and they put the same cross on themselves.
          3. +21
            27 January 2014 10: 59
            I support. The Russian is not the one who was born a Slav, put a swastika on his sleeve and spread rot for all non-Slavs, but the one who benefits Russia.
            1. +2
              27 January 2014 17: 57
              Quite rightly, this also applies to Western nationalists, as is evident from history again, they will not lead anyone to anything good and apparently suffer from a desire to live like noblemen of Pshek, so that they all plowed and they hosted - this is always a whole new order and it was reduced, that is, all of these Natsiks for Ukraine as a state are simply WOODS — they live at the expense of all and are poisoned by them.
          4. wanderer_032
            +20
            27 January 2014 11: 25
            Quote: sledgehammer102
            Well, what's the difference between cattle from the Caucasus or cattle from central Russia?

            Everything is correct, no. But there is a nuance, punks and punks from Central Russia, the Urals, Siberia and the Far East "play naughty" at home and do not go in a crowd to the Caucasus and Asia, and there they do not kill anyone, do not rob and do not rape (although , can they collect them all across Russia and send them to the Caucasus and Asia to do this?). I wonder what then the local population will sing?
            That is why the local population expresses its dissatisfaction, to put it mildly, because the local population suffices, and here also strangers rods like roaches from all holes and rob, rape and kill.
            1. -2
              27 January 2014 16: 58
              Quote: wanderer_032
              Everything is correct, no. But there is a nuance, punks and punks from Central Russia, the Urals, Siberia and the Far East are "naughty" at home


              What bald do they play around in Bashkiria and Tatarstan? And in general, I did not understand, since when in our country separate rooms appeared? Who cares where or who. He is a criminal in the Caucasus and in Perm. Honestly, the dumbest argument I've heard.

              The killing and rape of one native by another is not equivalent to any other combination.
              1. wanderer_032
                +7
                27 January 2014 17: 55
                I feel sorry for you, you just don’t understand how it is organized and by what principles our country lives.
                And you take about such topics to write.
                Let me explain, let's say you live in the same region. In general, the situation with unemployment and crime is relatively tolerant.
                And here people from other regions and even countries come to the region in which you live peacefully, do not touch anyone.
                They begin to oppress local residents, working for a penny and you suddenly hear that your manager says that it’s not profitable for him to pay, there are employees who can be paid less, and you can force him to ask and ask more of them, and so he dismisses you and you’re going to replenish an army of unemployed who were fired from work for similar reasons.
                Next come the relatives and acquaintances of the visitors (this is exactly what happens among the residents of the Caucasus and Asians, they drag the entire village (village) behind them), as a result, diasporas and enclaves from visitors are formed, unemployment in your region increases sharply, and hungry people all want to eat every single day. There is no work and they begin to trade with theft and robberies, as well as other bad things. They have a different mentality. Religion, too. Therefore, they easily give up on women.
                As a result, crime rises sharply and the smut begins.
                Before all this, there were enough of their unemployed and gopniks (but at least they were many times less and it was easier to catch, or to get a job), and then the visitors were added.
                What did you better live by looking at all this?
                1. -2
                  27 January 2014 19: 14
                  Quote: wanderer_032
                  What did you better live by looking at all this?


                  The fact that some Russian citizens move from region to region is not a problem, and how much they evaluate their work is their own business. This is called competition. Moreover, they do not occupy highly qualified places, but are laborers. So, you could strain and get a popular specialty.

                  Migrants are a separate issue. Let them come, because they are doing the work that nobody wants to do. And if you divide the estimated amount of damage by twice the number of illegal immigrants (also, according to experts), it turns out that their salary is 25-30 thousand, so they work for quite adequate salaries.

                  So, let them work, but do it officially, and not as it is now. And in order to achieve this one visa is not enough - you need to clean up the FMS.
                  1. +4
                    27 January 2014 19: 50
                    Quote: sledgehammer102
                    Quote: wanderer_032
                    What did you better live by looking at all this?


                    The fact that some Russian citizens move from region to region is not a problem, and how much they evaluate their work is their own business. It is called competition. Moreover, they do not occupy highly qualified places, but are laborers. So, you could strain and get a popular specialty.

                    Migrants are a separate issue. Let them come as they do the work that nobody wants to do. And if you divide the estimated amount of damage by twice the number of illegal immigrants (also, according to experts), it turns out that their salary is 25-30 Thousandsso they work for quite adequate salaries.

                    So, let them work, but do it officially, and not as it is now. And in order to achieve this one visa is not enough - you need to clean up the FMS.

                    Do you really think so?
                    1. -5
                      27 January 2014 19: 54
                      Quote: es.d
                      Do you really think so?



                      There are estimates of the damage to the budget of the Russian Federation from the work of illegal immigrants, and there is an approximate number of illegal immigrants. Multiply this number by two and divide by the amount of damage by this number. This is for migrants.

                      As for the Caucasians, if among them there are high-class specialists, engineers, for example, then I am very happy. And so, for the most part, who? The same builders, well, or student sons, who are no different from the same Russian student sons.
                      1. +3
                        27 January 2014 21: 10
                        Quote: sledgehammer102
                        There are estimates for damage to the budget of the Russian Federation from the work of illegal immigrants, there is an approximate number of illegal immigrants. Multiply this number by two and divide by the amount of damage by this number. This is for migrants.

                        This time. If the announced amount is correct, then why is it more than my salary?
                        If they are engaged in work which no one wants to do ... Let them do mine! Knowledge of CAD / CAM systems is required.
                      2. -3
                        27 January 2014 21: 24
                        Quote: es.d
                        This is the time. If the announced amount is correct, then why is it more than my salary?
                        If they are engaged in work which no one wants to do ... Let them do mine! Knowledge of CAD / CAM systems is required.


                        everything is approximately, but the moment that illegal immigrants make good money is evident. Their work is simply not prestigious and dirty.
                      3. +1
                        2 February 2014 21: 51
                        Quote: sledgehammer102
                        As for Caucasians, if among them there are ..


                        ... yes there are many former fighters in police uniforms;
                        - full of accomplices of bandits;
                        - you can list for a long time
                        Yes, there are definitely good athletes.
                  2. wanderer_032
                    +4
                    28 January 2014 10: 41
                    Quote: sledgehammer102
                    And they do not occupy highly qualified places

                    Oh, I didn’t think about working on special equipment in the road and municipal services, in order to carry passengers on buses and fixed-route taxis, working on special equipment in construction — Russia needs laborers.
                    I have four technical specialties and I can’t find a job with normal earnings because of left-wing unnecessary competition (which was organized by money-hungry grabbers) from monkeys who came down from the mountains yesterday, who in their life did not even learn to write and read, nevertheless They work on sophisticated equipment and passenger vehicles (often violating all safety rules), only because someone made documents for them.
                    About competition in the ears, blow some office hamster, but I don’t need it.
                    And in general, what kind of laborers are we talking about if migrant workers in the medical field are already working without education with fake diplomas and certificates.
                    Even it came to that. And think about how much harm it can cause.
                  3. +1
                    29 January 2014 08: 18
                    Of course, one can disagree with this, it seems to me that even after putting things in order at the Federal Migration Service, nothing will improve for the better until the illegal immigrants stop sending us to their homeland at our expense, until they stop wandering around the cities and towns, instead of the work they came for, until the employer who hired them will be liable up to the criminal. And to send home only at the expense of Gaster or the state that he represents, if no one wants to pay, then let him earn a ticket.
                2. -2
                  28 January 2014 01: 22
                  here let’s keep silent about the mentality and religion due to which they open their hands against women .... Tell me in which religion is this possible? And about the fact that they’re going to work in your city, it’s because there is NO work at home at all, and you need to feed the children ... Or do you think that you will plow the buzz for the money for which the Muscovite and the ass will not tear your ass off the couch? The fish is looking where it’s deeper and the person where it’s better, everyone knows that. Ask Americans very well with the Russian mafia? But emigrants didn’t go there for a good life, many honestly work, and many are engaged in banditry, something like that ...
              2. 0
                28 January 2014 07: 18
                This is true vileness, abomination and other attributes of people outside the law of nationality do not have, events in the Middle East only confirm this. And with a competent approach, you can show the national side and the independent press with great pleasure raises the ratings and grandmothers 30 silver coins with pleasure.
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          7. +2
            27 January 2014 20: 16
            Quote: s
            The prefix "euro" is decisive here, it was "Europe" that nurtured the Bandera fascists.


            Contagion USE salo carry from Poland ... His neem is better ...
          8. +2
            28 January 2014 06: 30
            here, I add to the topic.
        2. +15
          27 January 2014 09: 14
          Quote: domokl
          Knowing the spinelessness of Yanukovych, the first option disappears

          Hi Sanya! And what does not suit you the second option? Southeast there is all production, maidanutye without him will sit gnawed gnawed bones. It is better to part of Ukraine in alliance with Russia than all of Ukraine under the Fswists.
          1. +15
            27 January 2014 09: 44
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And what does not suit you the second option

            Sasha is healthy .. I’m not happy with what we consider Western Ukrainians to be illiterate winked .It is quite understandable that western Ukraine will not be able to support itself .. Industry is all in the east .. So, they just won’t let go to the east ..
            Only the blood in this case will no longer be shed by Yanukovych’s order, but by the decision of the next Rada or some other Assembly ...
            1. +5
              27 January 2014 09: 51
              Quote: domokl
              .It is quite understandable that western Ukraine will not be able to support itself .. Industry is all in the east .. So, they just won’t let go to the east ..

              They won’t give it, but they won’t be able to hold it either. Yatsenyuk Klichkr and Tyagnibok understand that they won’t take the soldier out, especially with the help of the EU and the USA. Russia will get help from them.
              Although, of course, it’s a lot of bugging and difficult to predict.
              1. Luzhichanin
                +4
                27 January 2014 13: 42
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Especially with the help of the EU and the USA. Russia will shake the help from them.

                But what are bandits at their own expense engaged in unrest? and all logistics at their own expense?
                and what kind of logistics: without any disruptions, not like the state structures ...
              2. +1
                27 January 2014 20: 22
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Yatsenyuk Klichkr and Tyagnibok understand that they will not take the soldier out, especially with the help of the EU and the USA. There will be help from them



                Help has come fellow
            2. +2
              27 January 2014 18: 00
              Absolutely, the goal of the Westerners is the destruction of Ukraine as a state, and peace will not work with these, the October Revolution showed this, the tsar did not want to fight the "people", they got a long civil war, in Ukraine it threatens the end of Ukraine as a state.
              1. +3
                27 January 2014 23: 21
                Well, I’m not to blame Nicholas 2, he himself is to blame, he may have been a good man, but there was no sovereign (statesman) from him, and his illiterate leadership led to the shameful defeat in the Russian-Japanese, and then defeats in the WWI, we were lucky that Lenin took power and fought off the Entente, and even more that after Lenin, Stalin inherited it, and we were not lucky that after there were Khrushchev and a hunchback with ebony, now the GDP like Nitsche is so powerful))) only the bear will not be allowed to power anymore)) )
        3. +23
          27 January 2014 09: 55
          Quote: Canep
          Knowing the spinelessness of Yanukovych, the first option disappears sad

          Yeah. He has already surrendered Berkutov, his militia and Internal Troops also surrendered, and yesterday he surrendered his prime minister.
          1. -2
            27 January 2014 21: 15
            It's time to move away from the old stamps. Yanukovych is not spineless, but a fully operational explosive soldier, and acts as it should. Well, when do you start thinking strategically?
        4. tverskoi77
          +3
          27 January 2014 13: 38
          Knowing the spinelessness of Yanukovych, the first option disappears

          and this will be the most favorable option for Russia and the South / East of Ukraine. Azarov will be "appointed" president, will join the customs union and further according to the scenario of Belarus.
          Fence, only have to build with Galicia.
        5. +19
          27 January 2014 17: 16
          The West supports "their" national fascists in Ukraine
          and Janek would be living for his loot, all of a sudden friends from the EU would arrest him, he’ll wait
      2. +16
        27 January 2014 09: 33
        Apparently it’s too late. Ukraine will be different, I don’t know which one, but it’s just the same as it will not be anymore. And Yanukovych was already late, he now needs to look for a place where to hide himself before he shares the fate of Kadafi. IMHO.
      3. +10
        27 January 2014 09: 39
        Perhaps the demarcation of Ukraine is the only way to release Galicia into free swimming, this subsidized region with the predominance of Greek Catholics and Orthodox schismatics of the UOC-KP, speaking a surrogate of the Ukrainian-Polish language with the borrowing of German words. A region where the positions of extreme nationalists and European integrators are very strong.
        1. Meriamon
          -16
          27 January 2014 12: 55
          Dear, maybe enough with standard phrases? Read of statistics, especially on non-subsidized Don and Lugan. reg. The Zekovsky Donbass has been given the most from the budget now and before. Right there, plants and factories in Ukraine are working hard, do not grind rubbish.
          1. Bezz
            +3
            27 January 2014 14: 00
            In terms of one inhabitant, Transcarpathian received in 2009-2011 inter-budget transfers in the amount of 2243 hryvnias, Volynskaya - 2310 hryvnias, Ternopol - 2143 hryvnias, Ivano-Frankivsk - 2122 hryvnias, Rivne - 2214 hryvnias, Khmelnitsky - 2044 hryvnias, Chernivtsi - hryvnia.

            The share of inter-budget transfers in GRP of these regions in 2010 amounted to 19,57%, 17,79%, 19,31%, 15,46%, 17,36%, 15,75% and 20,15%, respectively. Lviv Oblast received less - 1742 hryvnias per inhabitant in 2009-2011, or 11,52% of GRP in 2010.

            At the same time, the most subsidized of the eastern and southern regions - Kherson - received 1919 hryvnia per inhabitant in 2009-2011 and 14,05% of GRP in 2010. The second in terms of subsidies - Nikolaevskaya - respectively, 1690 hryvnias and 8,74%, that is, already less than Lviv.

            However, this does not mean that the eastern Ukrainian regions do not receive inter-budget transfers - subsidies in all of them, with the exception of the Dnipropetrovsk region, exceeded 1000 hryvnias per inhabitant in 2009-2011.

            Moreover, the Donetsk region, with its large population, occupied the second place in the country after the Lviv region in 2010-2011 in the absolute amount of subsidies.

            The only region that can be considered a "breadwinner" in the framework of interbudgetary transfers is the city of Kiev. In 2009-2011, the capital transferred to other regions 1068 hryvnia per one of its residents, or 2,21% of GRP in 2010.
      4. +5
        27 January 2014 10: 03
        It is quite possible this is all the same a way out, but the funny thing is that the zapadentsy will not go for it, it’s not their goal, the goal is the destruction of Ukraine as a state, and as soon as the partition is announced, then this entire company will rush to the east and the same thing will begin.
        1. wanderer_032
          +5
          27 January 2014 11: 50
          Quote: ArhipenkoAndrey
          this whole company will rush east

          Already rushed. Maydauns send their messengers around the country trying to rock the situation in the regions and shave more cannon fodder into their ranks, as well as scout the situation.
          A vivid example of Zaporozhye, quite recently there they tried to crank it up, but they were piled well there and stopped all their creeps in the bud.
      5. +3
        27 January 2014 10: 48
        I do not believe in a split in Ukraine, except that Crimea declare reunion with Russia and Russian troops protect them, but otherwise, the whole split will end on the border with Russia and the Black Sea ... If it smells fried, the local authorities will put on embroideries and sing Ukrainian anthem ... requiem ...
        1. Meriamon
          -21
          27 January 2014 12: 57
          And no one wants collapse - just to have order without Yanyk, but here everything is brainwashed, in the eyes are fascists and Natsiks. Scoop in the brain, alas, is incurable.
          1. wanderer_032
            +7
            27 January 2014 13: 17
            Quote: Meriamon
            it's all brainwashed

            No need to say so, people themselves see everything.
            Your president, of course, must resign, if only for not managing his duties and allowing things to happen in the country that he vowed to protect from such events. But at the same time, he is trying to sit on two chairs and is playing a double game.
            And with brainwashed, these were those who responded to the calls of extremists and went to the streets to play war. It was just that the explosives and Berkut had no order, if the order had been given for the lives of those idiots who would go into it and I wouldn’t give a broken cracker.
            One machine gun burst and this whole cardboard performance would have scattered in a matter of minutes.
            1. Meriamon
              -6
              27 January 2014 13: 35
              I agree - extremism is too much. But ask a question - what if a different way? Do you really think that Yanyk and Co. will listen to the opinion of the people? Those whom you call idiots just want a better fate for ALL of Ukraine. I already wrote here - I would love to hear the collective opinion of the protesting East, but it is not.
              1. +3
                27 January 2014 18: 10
                This is just the path to collapse, for the simple reason that reptiles who know how to chat but don’t work always come to power, if all these efforts were directed to the restoration of Ukraine, its economy, education, then it would be possible to laze around on the Maidan.
                1. Meriamon
                  -2
                  27 January 2014 18: 53
                  There is no recovery, on both sides only appeals and slogans, and that’s all ...
              2. +3
                27 January 2014 21: 14
                Quote: Meriamon
                Those whom you call idiots just want a better fate for ALL of Ukraine.


                I want to upset you - those whom the Wanderer calls idiots are such.
                I explain why:
                Disagreement with Yanukovych’s policy is universal. And people came to the Maidan because they got it, and specifically. And the pro-European liberals called them to the Maidan, who thought they should take power with clean hands and be European politicians with beautiful faces.
                But there is one tragic discrepancy, which consists in the fact that liberals can stand on the Maidan even until retirement, but this will not solve anything. Power to the Maidan has gotten used to, like to callus. And to strengthen the protest, it needs to be radicalized.
                And now those who can and want to do this come - nationalists. No one will accept their ideals for implementation, so they do not hang them on posters. Anyway, as a basic requirement. But they can do something else - to perform forceful actions. They want it, they live it, they were taught this. And they "swing" the situation very well.
                And now the denouement - liberals do not need anyone at all. The radicals consider them completely incapable of anything (rightly), and the authorities consider them enemies (also not without reason).
                Accordingly, with any development of events there is no place for liberals. Natsik wow just kill, as evidenced by the vast experience of world revolutions, and the government will simply wipe their ass.
                Something like that.
              3. +4
                28 January 2014 01: 33
                better fate for Ukraine? Crushing the city, breaking monuments, and setting fire to people, throwing stones at the Berkut people who do not even answer, but only tighten their ranks? Yes, you are still a romantic ....
          2. +11
            27 January 2014 13: 57
            And what is going on in Kiev, it must be understood as a peaceful march of "dandelion boys" yes. Tell me, since when is it a riot where thugs throw bottles at the police with homemade napalm, set fire to buses, use chains, fittings and sharpenings, they began to call it peaceful? If you follow your logic, if on the Maidan these thugs are rolled into the asphalt with tanks, it will also be a peaceful demonstration of the equipment produced by the Kharkov plant. Although for them these "maydanutyh" it is high time to arrange such a demonstration, in any country they would. Yesterday in France, the thugs tried to arrange something faintly reminiscent of the Maidan and that, right there, the police were rolling around the square, 160 people were arrested and no one was buzzing.
            1. +2
              27 January 2014 17: 53
              These peaceful demonstrators were already: Libya, Egypt, Syria ... then you yourself will probably guess. Now it's Ukraine's turn. For the West, EVERYWHERE is peaceful protesters and bloody. Now do you understand what's going on in Syria? By the way, in Geneva they are trying to "negotiate"
          3. gladiatorakz
            +9
            27 January 2014 14: 33
            Quote: Meriamon
            And no one wants collapse - just to have order without Yanyk, but here everything is brainwashed, in the eyes are fascists and Natsiks. Scoop in the brain, alas, is incurable.

            A person with brainwashed disagrees with him blamed for having brainwashed. It would be easier to say: You are not dumb enough to understand me.
            Now for the small semantic part of your delirium.
            1. Who decided that without Yanyka? The people just chose him.
            2. Nobody wants a collapse. But who will ask the six? Who cares what you want? The customer uses you while you are needed. Then you democratically rot.
            3. Scoop is a very blurry concept. But for stupid slogans - it will. Sheep does not analyze, it immediately picks up.
            1. Meriamon
              -10
              27 January 2014 15: 20
              I just want to say with a quote - "Well, if you are so smart, then why aren't you marching in formation?" I understand all 3 points even without your reminder. But already for 10 years the same words are the same - Bandera, Natsik, etc. Primitive. Unwillingness to see the truth. You do not want to see that it is not in Europe that is the case, but elementary in the mess in the country, which is visible to the majority, just like the perpetrators of this mess. Want to sit and pretend like everything is ok - no question.

              On the "Scoop" point, thinking is not moving, especially when you consider the number of those who voted for the CPU in the East. "It was great in the scoop" - and this is where the thought ends ...
              1. +5
                27 January 2014 21: 23
                I'm sitting bullshit, Russians are arguing with Russians .......deleted by moderator Apollo (they cannot share power, and virtual, because they themselves do not have it). We have been bred since the 10th century, trying to divide and share our beloved Eurogians, Eurogopniks, and Anglo-Sites ... ki. But I won’t be deep, in short,
                First, they pissed away the Russian Empire, then the USSR, something must happen to Ukraine, schA to her, and then they will take up the Russian Federation. Do not even doubt all the signs on the face of the Caucasus, Tatarstan, Bashkiria. As soon as the top begins to cut the loot (and every gopota merges with the power) and not think about the Motherland and the people (Stalin is an exception, he expanded the empire, won the war, and made a superpower) Collapse is not inevitable a little earlier, a little later. One CIS country does not have a stable social and political situation, the entire top keeps capital over the hill, while the sheep can be sheared, sheared. Moreover, the top keeps itself for the wolves and will not share with another pack. Therefore, today each flock is cut by its rulers (and not even always the president, first of all oligarchs and gopota with deputy crusts, at least in one Duma, Rada, Mazhilis, workers, peasants, military not staff but who fought? Well, maybe there is, well, very little). But here there is a law, the smaller the flock, the easier it is to grab, here the truth is the problem with one flock she has a vigorous club, well, you can fight for 10 years, to wash your brains, the townsfolk, water wears away a stone, that's all the fascists are "good", glory , gay. All this awaits us, well, the technology will be slightly different, in Asia there are gay kefirs, in the Russian Federation there are gay gastrobeaters (I don’t even want to remind about the Caucasus). There is only one drawing, however, but the tops of the figs, they cut lambs for them and their children will have enough, but what the country will share into principalities again, but in Geyrope they said it democratically, but the fact that we and our children eat all kinds of genetic engineering, vaccines are tested on us and our children as on monkeys, the birth rate is falling, drug addiction is growing, history is being rewritten, the country will disappear - THIS IS YOUR DEMOCRATIC RIGHT TO DISAPPEAR. Well on Russi (I have here all the descendants of Russi since the 9th century) one gopota? no leader at all? Or have we been so corrupted that we have become inert and can only beat each other? Oh no, and Klitschko got out and Yatsenyuk there, and that Zhirik is also not anything. Do you need more examples of national heroes? In-on-from exactly, specific guys are sitting, well, it is not very noticeable, some characters are molded, others are pushed in.
          4. +9
            27 January 2014 18: 04
            Thanks to the scoop in Vilnius Ukraine, there is still something to eat and the scoop in the brain is not so bad, the incurable Bender-tolerant teaching is much worse, it leads the country to collapse and this is a fact.
            1. Meriamon
              -1
              27 January 2014 18: 34
              This is already called teaching)). In my opinion, this is the same far-fetched problem as language. In Kiev, they calmly communicate, write in Russian and Ukrainian. But all the same - like elections, and it started - they crush the tongue!

              "do not read Donetsk newspapers at night".
          5. +2
            27 January 2014 21: 35
            Quote: Meriamon
            it's all brainwashed



            Because I want to see in Ukraine not the same, but such faces!
      6. +22
        27 January 2014 11: 07
        Quote: Canep
        Either Yanukovych will go to a military solution to the Maidan problem, or Ukraine will fall into two (at least) parts.


        And you have to be prepared for option "B". Ukraine is entering an uncontrollable phase of "negotiations", that is, the collapse of the country. It is impossible to negotiate with enemies who are determined to “tear you down”. This is nothing more than a euphemism for decay.


        A little clarification:
        Wait a tough discussion on the poll "Yo .. Jhdya" (there is such an RS) - "Was it necessary to surrender Leningrad to save hundreds of thousands of lives?"
        ... There are simply no other words ...
        Formula: Sdelib Peter didn’t hold back Moscow, they lost the Second World War ... they are not interested.
        That labeled with alik surrendered to the country without firing a shot, that there were no casualties and casualties?
        There were and will be more, significantly more than during the war, it’s simply impossible to even calculate
        - demographic pit,
        - how many died having lost the meaning of life?
        - as it turned out below the line of normal existence, drank and died ...

        The same will happen with Ukraine, so the faster and tougher the suppression of the coup, the less losses and consequences! Including for Russia ...
        1. +16
          27 January 2014 11: 20
          Quote: Rus2012
          the faster and tougher this coup is suppressed - the less losses and consequences!

          I absolutely agree with you!
          It’s time to have the Golden Eagle spread its wings!
          1. +17
            27 January 2014 11: 50
            Quote: Arberes
            It’s time to have the Golden Eagle spread its wings!

            The army must fight ...
            And the Golden Eagle was tired of standing idle, losing his comrades from bullets, cobblestones and Molotov cocktails. Banderlogs openly threaten them, as well as members of their families, and the government does not allow them to fulfill their duty.
            Classic setup ...
            I remember the movie "Checkpoint".
            1. +11
              27 January 2014 11: 58
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              Classic setup ...
              I remember the movie "Checkpoint".

              I remember our paratroopers who occupied the TV center in Vilnius! The guys followed the order - it would be naive to think that they themselves decided to while away their workdays in this way. Then the "bald man" appeared and declared publicly that he was not to blame (he was lying in the hospital or even with his back), that these were some centrifugal forces of the enemy! Here is the first JUDAH from Kyriot who betrayed her fighters.
              After that, it was already in the order of things!
          2. Jogan-xnumx
            +9
            27 January 2014 12: 52
            Quote: Arberes
            It’s time to have the Golden Eagle spread its wings!

            This "time" had to be done on the first day of the Maidan. And get ready for the "time" even earlier! For even the last cretin understood that if the association was not signed, there would be a bucha. And Yanukovych is an outright coward, and this has been evident since 2004 ...
            The legally elected president V. Yanukovych is negotiating with the political "roof" of the militants: Klitschko - Yatsenyuk - Pyagnybok. The main thing is Klitschko, although in reality only a neo-Fascist Tyagnybok can influence the situation, and here lies a lie, ostensibly for salvation. What is salvation? What can you negotiate with a fascist? Oh yes, the West insists on it ...

            These three opposition clowns on the Maidan do not really mean anything, do not decide anything and do not lead anyone. Is that a bunch of his henchmen. Whatever concessions to them Yanukovych made in the negotiations, they will not stop the radicals. These nerds from the Maidan are already almost kicked, and they can only, that in his evening before a crowd of onlookers say something.
            On the Maidan, pin.dos are already running everything through their instructors, funds and commanders of battle groups. The buildup with provocations is going on tightly, although small arms have already been used, however, in single quantities. Single corpses with firearms are not enough to deploy a full-scale massacre. They need the authorities to respond with military firing, and then the Syrian version. The goal is the Russian Federation, not Ukraine. And the authorities do not see an understanding of the whole situation, but frank cowardice is clearly visible. What will happen next - either, or ... Although for a long time full-scale harsh retaliatory actions of the authorities throughout Ukraine have been needed. And even preemptive. hi
          3. +4
            27 January 2014 14: 03
            as I understand it, they are already physically unable to cover, as soon as they begin to reap, it breaks through in another place.
            And with the technique of crushing, whom it is necessary is not suppressed anyway, because radicals are hiding behind the backs (adequate).

            But let’s say after burning tires it would be possible to fix a couple of poisonings for a long time and give the command to extinguish by all means, including and aviation.
            We would wash away all this garbage dump with tents and business with the end long ago.
            1. zzz
              zzz
              +1
              27 January 2014 15: 21
              Quote: brainkiller
              fix a couple of poisonings and give the command to extinguish by all means including and aviation.
              We would wash away all this garbage dump with tents and business with the end long ago.


              Better yet, announce that the city is PLUMA! And Kiev will be empty ....
      7. Nikita_Pilot
        +1
        27 January 2014 13: 38
        I hope that Sevastopol will fall to us and only to us.
      8. +5
        27 January 2014 15: 12
        Quote: Canep
        Either Yanukovych will go to a military solution to the Maidan problem, or Ukraine will fall into two (at least) parts.


        Sad Klitschko is sitting ...
        Drinking milk
        Scratches a point
        Turning sideways.
        And he thinks, Lord!
        I went to hell with the leaders !?
        I would have a beer in my mouth in Hamburg,
        I disgust maidanovorot!
        I don’t want Julia’s biography!
        I like the pork knuckle!
        I'm prettier than a gay carnival
        And with my bare-chested magazine.
        But whispered A-eN-Bae -
        Shish to you!
        And the State Department cried out - Come on!
        Don’t stink! Chase!
        You reel orders on a mustache
        And fulfill the advance in full growth!
        I. Tserulik.

        It’s bad when the shoemaker starts to bake pies, and the boots start to stitch the pie. Klitschko with his broken brains decided to go into politics - the result is obvious.
        What is happening now in Ukraine is an attempted coup. There is no need to call it in the Western manner - "opposition speech", "march of dissent" and other nonsense. Blood is shed in the country. And this blood is on the conscience of those who organized all this chaos paid by the West. I do not believe that the thugs in masks and helmets, armed with grenades, fittings and Molotov cocktails, who take police officers prisoner, act on their own enthusiasm, completely disinterestedly. One feels like an experienced organizer provided with great finances. By the way, if they are taken prisoner, it means that hostilities are underway. Prisoners are only in war. The authorities have every moral right to declare an emergency regime and involve troops (I think so). Only there is still time for the Ukrainians to come to their senses and, as they say, "turn their bayonets." Not too late. Because later, when it is ALREADY LATE, they will want to turn back the clock, but in no way. They will bite their elbows and ask themselves questions: why were we such idiots that we were led by a bunch of thugs led by the mindless Klitschko?
      9. +3
        27 January 2014 16: 38
        Quote: Canep
        Either Yanukovych will go to a military solution to the Maidan problem, or Ukraine will fall into two (at least) parts.

        The collapse of Ukraine has already taken place de facto. In any case, from Yanukovych. We must prepare to defend the southeast of Ukraine and, if possible, prevent Kiev from being taken away.
      10. 0
        27 January 2014 19: 43
        may he not ... these are not leaders, officials.
      11. +1
        27 January 2014 21: 37
        Auto RU.
        "Russia needs to be ready to help the population of Ukraine in the face of Euro-fascism, with or without Yanukovych."
        Let me say how much more can be helped? Billions of dollars and super gas prices is all this little? I live in Siberia, where gas is also produced for Ukraine, but in our homes it is not. Help Ukraine other than money than you offer? Troops, cannon fodder for Ukrainian clowning?
        And a sad result. RUSSIA, when Ukraine eats and spends (plunders) the money of Russia, we will give more.
        1. +3
          27 January 2014 21: 40
          Quote: Dmitry_24rus
          Let me say how much more can be helped?

          When Ukraine disappears, then trouble will knock on your home in Siberia ...
          1. +1
            29 January 2014 20: 53
            Siberia gives oil and gas to Russia. In our Krasnoyarsk Territory, an important industrial center is concentrated. production, nuclear industry, most of the production of space satellites of the Russian Federation, etc. We are donors of mother Russia. We have no time to evromaydanit, we need to work. And if trouble knocks on us, then this is still an apocalypse :-)
        2. +1
          29 January 2014 01: 00
          Quote: Dmitry_24rus
          "Russia needs to be ready to help the population of Ukraine in the face of Euro-fascism, with or without Yanukovych."
          Let me say how much more can be helped? Billions of dollars and super gas prices is all this little? I live in Siberia, where gas is also produced for Ukraine, but in our homes it is not. Help Ukraine other than money than you offer? Troops, cannon fodder for Ukrainian clowning?
          And a sad result. RUSSIA, when Ukraine eats and spends (plunders) the money of Russia, we will give more.

          Young man, we are not for Ukraine’s independence. We are happy for our relatives, abundantly watered with the blood of Russian soldiers, and for the people who remained there by the will of fate, who under any circumstances will remain the Russian people. And listening to speeches like yours, I begin to go out from myself, and there is a desire to push such a phrase back. Yes stronger.
          PSA we don’t know what is unfavorable in our country. And we need to solve our problems - and of all regions and all segments of the population. Just don’t need to think about the problems of your region in this thread. We are not discussing this. Write a better article - what’s bad and how to fix it.
          1. +1
            29 January 2014 21: 10
            Unknown man. Russia will help Ukraine, do not hesitate, as always. And do not touch the sacred about the blood of Russian soldiers. Solve the problems of regions and sectors of society. Do not lose your temper.
            And in general, come to us in Siberia. True. Russia has loyal legislation to the peoples of the USSR. We will produce oil and gas together and sell it at dumping prices. But we have no problems, we need to work.
      12. +1
        28 January 2014 01: 22
        Yanukovych is acting so that you can’t imagine a better one — he shows his fear of throwing, etc. but the plan is probably ready and prepared in the Kremlin
    2. +12
      27 January 2014 09: 13
      Does anyone doubt fascism? Now a fashionable greeting on the Maidan.
      "The greeting" Glory to Ukraine "and the answer to the" Heroes Glory "were officially approved in April 1941 at the II Great Assembly of Ukrainian nationalists as an official organizational greeting of the members of the OUN. The same document, among other things, stated:" National minorities are divided into: a) loyal to us, in fact, members of the still oppressed peoples; b) Poles and Jews hostile to us. "With regard to the group b) it was proposed a little later -" to destroy in the struggle, in particular those who will defend the regime: resettle in their lands, destroy, mainly the intelligentsia, which should not be allowed into what governing bodies, in general, to make it impossible to "produce" the intelligentsia, access to schools, etc. The leaders to destroy ... Assimilation of the Jews is excluded. "
    3. dv-v
      0
      27 January 2014 12: 55
      "allegory" is a word, kanesh, borrowed from the Greek, which does not diminish your blatant illiteracy.

      in a word, with such diplomas no enemy will be in time - themselves, all themselves.
    4. Meriamon
      -8
      27 January 2014 13: 10
      But prez-zek, bandits who are not shy about stealing from the people, is this better ?? That is, the trash in power, which brazenly and openly ruins the economy, which drives the whole country into debt is super ??? After all, even the money that Russia gave-will have to give ordinary people. That is - banal scammers in power - this is in your opinion better than the Natsiks, who just not everyone (in Kiev) support. But they are at least trying to do something.

      And then where is the educated and intelligent East? If they are so smart, let them also offer? And they’re just afraid of the shovel, they think how we will survive the thread. Terpily, in a word.
      1. wanderer_032
        +5
        27 January 2014 13: 31
        Quote: Meriamon
        banal scam in power - is it your best

        Not better, but serious things are done quietly and without undue noise.
        A Maidan to arrange no sense.
        Quote: Meriamon
        But they are at least trying to do something

        This is something all over the world, according to all international laws, is punishable by criminal sentences (and in some underdeveloped countries of Asia, Africa and South America, a bullet in the head without unnecessary talk and explanation, but you probably don’t think about Ukraine as well?), But criminal the code, as Comrade Bender said, needs to be respected. Otherwise, it will be like in the Fallout game, which is reminiscent of the illustration for this article.
        I do not think that such a prospect pleases the citizens of Ukraine.
        1. Meriamon
          -6
          27 January 2014 13: 51
          And here it is more interesting)) "quietly and without noise." Well, first of all, there is no Leader. And secondly, it will not work out peacefully (most likely), this was evident from the first days, since the Maidan itself is an old topic, and it is unlikely that he frightened Yanyk. Of course, the Criminal Code is a serious matter, but for example - you are on the street at night, and the bandits are opposite - will you also talk about a legal decision? Moreover, the bandits do not hide their actions.
          1. wanderer_032
            +4
            27 January 2014 14: 07
            Quote: Meriamon
            Well firstly there is no Leader

            So if not, which was premature, then there was a twitch.
            It would be better for the whole nation to prepare for re-election, to find the leader of the power that was suitable (the candidacy of which, most of the citizens would be quite satisfied with), and then buzz if it’s not nice with the current one.
            By the way, this could be done quite peacefully, that is, for the next presidential election.
          2. Jogan-xnumx
            +2
            27 January 2014 15: 56
            Quote: Meriamon
            You are on the street at night, and the bandits on the contrary - will you also talk about a legal decision?

            The Criminal Code contains the concept of "necessary defense". And also "urgent need". Ask them at your leisure, it is written to us how a law-abiding citizen should act in such cases.
          3. +2
            27 January 2014 16: 56
            Ukraine is not a country. To be a leader in it is to be at least inadequate. It is impossible to build a country from our outskirts, just as it is impossible to build a country from the outskirts of Kiev. Therefore, you can’t have any other power. Only a thief who sits on the edge trying to seize the moment can want to reign supreme there - is it time for him to flee with the loot or is it not time?
            Fear pushes forward, greed pulls back ... Vile little soul tells you to spoil more, because you really want to prove your "superiority" to the clever and honest. They say look - you are both hard-working and good ... and I am screwing you on your head, and you cannot do anything!
            Do you recognize? And your power cannot be anything else, whatever you do. The East should be part of Russia, then feel better. We here are also not paradise, but you can’t compare it. But first you should get a good vaccine from the revolution. That is, hunger, illness and death, which you yourself have already begun to bring down. So that children are punished not to buzz! In the meantime, you can’t let anyone into a decent country, you are sick of destruction. Well, have fun. I think a year more fun ...
            1. wanderer_032
              +1
              27 January 2014 18: 26
              Quote: Mikhail3
              Ukraine is not a country

              You don’t need to say that, country. And its citizens with their confrontation and unwillingness to sing to the tune of a handful of maydanutyh and their owners have proved this.

              If Ukrainian citizens want accession to Russia, they themselves will decide this consciously. And do not print such habits here:
              Quote: Mikhail3
              The East must become part of Russia,

              you are insulting people.
          4. 0
            27 January 2014 18: 30
            Quote: Meriamon
            And secondly - peacefully (most likely) it will not work out anymore, this has been evident from the first days, since the Maidan itself is an old topic, and it is unlikely that it frightened Yanyk

            Lord Do you even understand that you are killing Ukraine with your own hands!
            1. Meriamon
              +1
              27 January 2014 18: 58
              Stop! it’s only that the Maidan, as a manifestation of protest, has exhausted itself. And this was evident from the very beginning, the authorities are not afraid of him. Therefore, it went into what we see. Who and why did this - this needs to be understood.
              1. +3
                27 January 2014 19: 24
                Quote: Meriamon
                Stop! it’s only that the Maidan, as a manifestation of protest, has exhausted itself

                The 2nd phase has gone - seizure of the region of administrations and blocking of roads. Phase 3 - disarmament of army units?
                If we are all so democratic, wait for the elections. How many votes did Yushchenko get? Yanukovych will have even less. Parliamentary republic? Yes forward, with songs. Throwing bottles at the police is not a revolution, it is, sorry, hooliganism. When "belolentochniki" were walking in Moscow, all of Russia (it seems to me) looked at this action with squeamishness and worked further.
          5. +1
            27 January 2014 21: 16
            Quote: Meriamon
            You are on the street at night, and the bandits on the contrary - will you also talk about a legal decision? Moreover, bandits do not hide their actions.


            If the bandit has a gun in his hands, then a bullet in the forehead is a completely legal decision, even according to our poor laws. hi
          6. +1
            27 January 2014 23: 25
            Quote: Meriamon
            Well, firstly there is no Leader.

            And this one, perhaps, did not write himself up as a "leader"?
      2. gladiatorakz
        +5
        27 January 2014 14: 44
        Quote: Meriamon
        But prez-zek, bandits who are not shy about stealing from the people, is this better ?? That is, the trash in power, which brazenly and openly ruins the economy, which drives the whole country into debt is super ??? After all, even the money that Russia gave-will have to give ordinary people. That is - banal scammers in power - this is in your opinion better than the Natsiks, who just not everyone (in Kiev) support. But they are at least trying to do something. And then where is the educated and intelligent East? If they are so smart, let them also offer? And they’re just afraid of the shovel, they think how we will survive the thread. Terpily, in a word.

        Go to the Maidan. All of yours are there. Those with double standards. Immediately you write a convict and at the end you fumble "terpily". You define yourself for yourself who you are. Walk under p.id.ar.ami and we shout for order.
        Essentially your opus. I did not find the essence.
        Run faster on the Maidan, there will soon be issued a disability. Yesterday Zaporozhye and the Dnieper issued a couple of hundred.
        1. Meriamon
          -9
          27 January 2014 15: 02
          I’ll think about myself somehow, without advisers. Where and how I walk is none of your business. I could not find the essence - for I did not try. Regarding "terpily" - I used not the best word, I wanted to mean - "They have not done anything for 20 years, but just about the Nazis - they immediately give out labels. Along the Dnieper and Zaporozhye, did you give out disability? That is, you are a Hero should there be grateful?

          That's the problem - to talk about the Natsik is how to give a drink, but to the summit ... it's not, I better philosophize near the computer. At the same time I will support Yanyka, maybe he will give a handout from the gentleman's shoulder.
      3. +2
        27 January 2014 15: 51
        Tolerated. East is working. Who will come to power in your opinion naive, honest patriots of Ukraine?
        1. Meriamon
          0
          27 January 2014 18: 37
          Yeah, tell tales to someone else (working East). If he himself had not seen, he would not have spoken. Finish up the last. This is a type - the granary and health resort of Crimea. In Sevastopol alone - half of the pensioners.
        2. Meriamon
          -1
          27 January 2014 18: 39
          about who comes - there will be a Leader from the East, no question. Or from the South. But not yet. Here's the catch.
      4. +3
        27 January 2014 18: 18
        [quote = Meriamon] That is - banal scammers in power - this is your way better than the Natsiks, who just not all (in Kiev) support. [/ quote]
        Believe it or not, it's better. I am a "scoop" and I remember the stories of veterans. The "scoop" practiced the arrival of veterans on the "day of remembrance" (different for everyone). They told ... not NKVDists, but tankmen, infantrymen, artillerymen. The brains were washed specifically. After one of these meetings, almost all the boys submitted papers to military schools. They didn't take anyone. Apparently they were worthier.

        Terpily, in a word. [/ quote]
        This word alone speaks more about you than all the slogans.
        1. Meriamon
          0
          27 January 2014 19: 00
          So then in the scoop. And we have 20 years of bandits in power. Do not confuse.
          1. +2
            27 January 2014 19: 36
            Quote: Meriamon
            So then in the scoop. And we have 20 years of bandits in power. Do not confuse.

            Unlike you, I put the term "scoop" in quotation marks, since I do not perceive this neoplasm. Are you a citizen of Ukraine? Do you have the right to vote? Read the Constitution of Ukraine. Surely it is the most democratic in the world, everything is there.
            And, personal opinion: to throw a thug you need a thug in a cooler way. Are you ready for this?
    5. wow
      +2
      27 January 2014 15: 05
      And there is simply no other option, except for the split of this ephemeral formation "Ukraine" !!!
    6. peter_sh
      -3
      27 January 2014 18: 31
      "they do not create only destroy and are the hands of European progressors who do not need a state like Ukraine"

      Well, what about your original Russian national traitors, a la Vlasov, Kaminsky, Krasnov-name-legion, they were sold for what kind of fat?
      1. 0
        28 January 2014 07: 25
        I’ll clarify that the meanness, betrayal and other attributes of bastards of nationality are not respected, the whole question is whether they made conclusions from this or not, as I understand it, they didn’t do anything from Bendery and it’s annoying, it can cost the country.
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    8. 0
      28 January 2014 06: 11
      "The West intended to split Ukraine, demolishing the" Yanukovych regime "in order to tear off, at least," its "western piece, since it did not work out to be Euro-associated - to swallow Ukraine whole"
      CHANGE!
  2. +6
    27 January 2014 08: 39
    There is a book "The Age of the Stillborn", I do not remember the author. Just about the division of Ukraine, I still hope that it is not prophetic.
    1. Shurik
      +2
      27 January 2014 08: 59
      Gleb Leonidovich Bobrov http://modernlib.ru/books/bobrov_gleb_leonidovich/epoha_mertvorozhdennih/
      have something to think about what
    2. +1
      27 January 2014 09: 00
      Gleb Bobrov.
    3. +5
      27 January 2014 10: 51
      I wrote about this book last week. Bobrov - Vanga. the book was published in 2008. and began to write in 2005. in general, the most gloomy forecasts regarding Ukraine are being realized. by the way, the word "Young European" was first read by Bobrov. on VO appeared infa about the armament of the Poles. there on the branch people laugh, but if I were the Ukrainians, I would think about it ... as you know, the one who laughs without consequences laughs well ...
    4. peter_sh
      0
      27 January 2014 19: 42
      Well .. in the toilet read will fit ...
      There, the action takes place in the vicinity of Lysychansk \ Severodonetsk, quite interestingly, despite the fact that I live in the North, and in Lysychansk I visit 1-2 times a month)))
  3. +6
    27 January 2014 08: 41
    I wonder if this is not a scenario for Russia, say, 2021 of the year.?.
    1. +20
      27 January 2014 08: 44
      This would be a scenario for Russia and not in 2021, but in 2015 — if the NGOs had not been pinched, they had not been pressed down with the elections, and the swamp had not stopped.
      The scenario was the most win-win-what is the people dissatisfied with? Corruption, and we all have thieves-like leaders, and the party that steers us-all thieves-Get!
      What, isn't it one on one?
      1. +5
        27 January 2014 09: 04
        IMHO, NGOs are just a "lazy option". There are also other possibilities ("tagged" worked without any NGOs ...).

        2020 is a milestone for much of what the current government said / promised (the same GPV 2020). And if TS "they will not postpone the deadlines," there will be a basis for "collecting stones" and "drawing conclusions" (too late for me, but it's like ... not the point ...).
        1. Luzhichanin
          0
          27 January 2014 13: 48
          Quote: Yves762
          2020 is a milestone for much of that

          By this time, the Americans should have completed preparations for the deployment of bases, forces and weapons within the framework of the "Rapid Global Strike" doctrine. nevertheless a plus for you hi
    2. +29
      27 January 2014 08: 57
      I wonder if this is not a scenario for Russia, say, 2021 of the year.?.
      Here we must understand that such a scenario is extremely unlikely in Russia. Well, if in Ukraine (except for zapadenschina, and even there not everything is finished) it is not very that. On Saturday, the Regional State Administration was taken by storm in Chernigov. The residents of Chernihiv themselves did not show any particular desire to take part in this action, so they drove several buses to the Maydauns from Zhytomyr. Oil painting: such a Zhytomyr "macho" with a table leg is rushing. And then simple Chernihiv women took him into circulation: they surrounded him, kicked him, took his leg and kicked him to the buses - blow to your Zhitomir, this is our city. And such cases are not unique. Yesterday, in the Sherstyanka microdistrict, they beat up an aunt who was agitating to gather at a veche today. So, here they are not here.
      1. Jogan-xnumx
        +9
        27 January 2014 13: 11
        Exactly! good And in Lugansk on Sunday, in front of the Regional State Administration, the Cossacks lined up with sabers and whips. Even without the cops. And specifically they warned about something ... Plugs from the "Svolota" somehow appeared there in an undertone, without any beats, chains, sticks, and quickly disappeared ... laughing
      2. peter_sh
        -6
        27 January 2014 19: 45
        Quote: Old_Kapitan
        Here it must be understood that in Russia such a scenario is extremely unlikely


        Yes, that's for sure. In the Russian Federation, the GDP with the LADIES has been tearing you into 2 ties since 2001, and you just wipe yourself off and podmahivate .. Without forgetting to thank Gd for the wise ruler and "well, who, if not him?"
        What to take from you, the country of slaves ...
        1. +4
          27 January 2014 19: 55
          Quote: peter_sh
          What to take from you, the country of slaves ...

          Sorry, bitch ...
          1. peter_sh
            -4
            27 January 2014 20: 03
            Sorry, lackeys.
            lackeys in the Middle Ages were historically inaccurate.
          2. Jogan-xnumx
            +1
            28 January 2014 16: 57
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            Quote: peter_sh
            What to take from you, the country of slaves ...

            Sorry, bitch ...

            Not worth it ... This Mr. Aida thinks he is a lord. Let him think, while he is not yet cancer. laughing
        2. +2
          28 January 2014 07: 30
          Well, at the expense of wisdom, we can’t compete with you, now your like-minded people will break Kiev, gobble up fat and again with the wisdom of your leaders where to tear down and break — yes, leaders who are always dirty, smelly but wise leaders who can’t build anything — only destroy and shit but free leaders, albeit constantly receiving but supermen on the hill, have not changed since Hitler.
      3. peter_sh
        -1
        27 January 2014 19: 47
        Yesterday, at the Sherstyanka neighborhood, an aunt was beaten up, agitating to gather today at the evening.


        a heroic deed, a woman otdit, you can't say anything ..
    3. +3
      27 January 2014 09: 03
      Quote: Yves762
      but is this a scenario for Russia,

      This will not work in Russia simply because our opposition is on other ideas ... Rather, on separatism than on political ambitions ...
      1. +12
        27 January 2014 09: 29
        Quote: domokl
        that our opposition is sitting on other ideas ...

        damn "on other tablets" read =)))
        1. +12
          27 January 2014 09: 46
          Quote: brainkiller
          damn "on other tablets" read =)))

          laughing I wrote differently, but I like your train of thought .... lol
    4. +8
      27 January 2014 10: 00
      For Russia, this script was written a long time ago, therefore, our authorities took over the army, and if everything works out, then in 2021 they will only be able to sniff near us. We smell it. IMHO.
      1. 0
        27 January 2014 21: 24
        Quote: demel2
        about in 2021 they will only be able to sniff near us .. we smell it. IMHO.


        Not near, but to the very center, so to speak, in chocolate laughing laughing
  4. +21
    27 January 2014 08: 43
    The only people truly sorry in this situation are the golden eagle fighters. 4000 fighters for everything about everything, without sleep and respite
    1. +10
      27 January 2014 09: 31
      these 4000 fighters understand perfectly who will merge in the first place if a coup does happen. How the Spartans will stand.
      But the most unfortunate thing is that even if they do not stand up to the fact that they will not merge Yanukovych.
    2. Jogan-xnumx
      +3
      27 January 2014 13: 22
      Quote: Dangerous
      4000 fighters for everything about everything, without sleep and respite

      So far, special forces and explosives throughout Ukraine have involved about 5%. And rotations are still carried out, although of course you will not envy the conditions. Itself once more than once in a similar skin happened. MTO here they have frankly worthless, no one was counting on such a duration. All saved, damn it! am
      1. +2
        27 January 2014 16: 57
        Quote: Jogan-64
        MTO here they have frankly worthless, no one was counting on such a duration. All saved, damn it!

        On Saturday, the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs requested equipment from the Ministry of Defense;


        In the control of the Internal Troops, they are asked to transfer:

        9 mm pistol cartridges - 4 pieces;

        14,5 mm empty cartridges - 150 pieces;

        40 mm of VOG-25 charges - 100 pieces;

        tents USB-56 - 200 sets;

        tents USBT-56 - 150 sets;

        trailer kitchens KP-125 (KP-130) - 50 units;

        Thermos TVN-36 (TVN-12, T-6) - 1050 pieces.
        1. Jogan-xnumx
          +1
          27 January 2014 17: 12
          Quote: PSih2097
          On Saturday, the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs requested equipment from the Ministry of Defense;

          I know that. When it still comes to the Ministry of Internal Affairs ... request If even the Minister of Defense reaches, if he shares.
          Previously, you had to think! To the top, including. And about the kitchens and the tents with ammunition. And do not encourage bouncer money to feed the generals.
          1. +3
            27 January 2014 19: 20
            Quote: Jogan-64
            Quote: PSih2097
            On Saturday, the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs requested equipment from the Ministry of Defense;
            I know that. When it still comes to the Ministry of Internal Affairs ..

            The request (or its copy) was known to the top of the banderlog not later than the Minister of Defense got acquainted.
            1. Jogan-xnumx
              +1
              27 January 2014 20: 14
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              The request (or its copy) was known to the top of the banderlog not later than the Minister of Defense got acquainted.

              It is clear that the information is merged at times. I'm not talking about that, but about the fact that the police and the army are not properly equipped. And not only right now, but in general! Since the beginning of this fucking indispensability. In accordance with the "Regulations on the passage of service ...", etc. regulations. We cut MTO to a ridiculous minimum. This is the "nail"! The guys stand there with bullets in their pockets and wait, damn it, tents and kitchens from the Ministry of Defense, which they should have OWN!
              1. +2
                27 January 2014 20: 32
                Quote: Jogan-64
                The boys there are standing with bullets in their pockets and wait, damn it, tents and kitchens from the Moscow Region, which they should have OWN!

                Forum member Vasya posted some very interesting information. And if so it is, then it is time for the army to declare readiness No. 1.
                1. Jogan-xnumx
                  +1
                  28 January 2014 17: 01
                  Quote: stalkerwalker
                  ... it's time for the army team to declare readiness No. 1.

                  If not number 1, then number 2 is definitely time!
        2. +1
          27 January 2014 17: 40
          Quote: PSih2097
          On Saturday, the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs requested equipment from the Ministry of Defense;

          It seems that the minister intends to stand until the summer. He doesn’t ask. A couple of armored personnel carriers, but a couple of bulldozers. And do not ask for a thermos until spring.
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    3. peter_sh
      -3
      27 January 2014 19: 52
      But I don’t understand, what other complaints? Did you know what you were going to? Know. That this is special forces designed specifically to counter riots.
      So they came. Work, bl "ds, garbage.
      1. +2
        28 January 2014 07: 36
        You can feel the hand of a hardened lord, and it doesn't matter to you who is in power, you don't care who to bomb and who to rob, but "trash bins" as you put it more honestly than you, they have a country that they protect, including from people like you.
  5. Titov
    +7
    27 January 2014 08: 45
    Why is there no real resistance? The Slavs killed the desire to confront the enemies?
    1. +5
      27 January 2014 09: 07
      And how many Slavs live in Ukraine? Ukrainians live, Russians live, Tatars live, Jews live ... And another hundred and a half peoples, but the Slavs ... Once upon a time, before the era of historical materialism, there were such peoples ... Only now their descendants are called differently - Poles, Serbs, Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians, Slovaks, Slovenes and a bunch more ...
      So, due to the lack of a time machine at the moment, the Slavs will definitely not resist lol
    2. wanderer_032
      +2
      27 January 2014 12: 02
      The right question.
      But I think that soon we will see him, just those people who are against the Maydan people, unlike them in a civilized way, are trying to force the authorities to restore order.
      But they themselves do not fail when the authorities are silent or inactive. Zaporozhye is a vivid example.
      And these are just flowers, if the Maidanut people will continue to try to bend their line by sending monitors to other regions, then I think they will not find it enough.
  6. +5
    27 January 2014 08: 46
    Yanukovych is not able to influence the situation in Ukraine due to his uncertainty; he still has not decided who he is, with Russia or the West, he makes money with Russia, but he keeps them in the West. The whole problem is that the citizens of Ukraine will not be asked by anyone what they want and they will not be given a conscious choice by either a jane or a ragule.
  7. +10
    27 January 2014 08: 46
    I agree with the author. The events took an avalanche-like character. Yanukovych missed time. While the capture is quiet ... And he pretends that everything is fine. \
    Now the option of splitting Ukraine is the most real. It’s also like the option of a lot of blood (although I could never understand if there is little blood).
    1. +4
      27 January 2014 11: 57
      Quote: domokl
      Now the option of splitting Ukraine is the most real. As well as the option of big blood

      "Swan Lake", "Wedding in Malinovka" and "White Guard" in one bottle.
    2. Luzhichanin
      +2
      27 January 2014 14: 14
      I remember the main accuser of the business of the West in Ukraine noted, I quote not verbatim:
      All these events were timed to coincide with the next presidential election in Ukraine ...
      I recall the explosions in Volgograd, the series of events in the Stavropol Territory, and most importantly, the media do not cover, but what they inform, our comrades from the Military District, in particular Climpops, who go to the Stavropol Territory all the time, although we are practically not told about them in the federal media. ...
      And here really all the attention "people grabs" is switched to the events in Ukraine ... from the internal problems of the Islamists, the attention of the people is temporarily turned off ... until the end of the olyampiyada ?!

      The fact that in Ukraine the last decades training camps ... nationalists ... or terrorists ?! I think that it’s not a secret for many of us, especially since a number of publications on this topic over the past years have survived at VO ... and you can refresh your memory.

      The causes and mechanisms of the occurrence and development of these events can be thought out and fantasized arbitrarily long and much, but there is no point in challenging the above facts, because they are done before our eyes.

      But, regarding the causes and mechanisms, I will try to assume (to joke) that:

      Offended by everyone and everything, for example, the Saudis, and others like them, for example: Iran will live richly and beautifully - they decided to continue pumping Russia with militants in order to spoil these villains Russians at the Olympics.
      In response, the president of our country agrees with Obama ...
      We all remember very well that Obama is our man in the Washington regional committee. So he burns to Obama: they say, barrack, you have so and so the funds are thrown into the rebellion in Ukraine, let's put on a show right now: it’s good for us and you will stay in business: and the "people grabs" attention will focus on Ukraine, and temporarily forget about all the troubles both with you and with us ... laughing
  8. -2
    27 January 2014 08: 50
    Surprisingly, the example here shows Vladimir Putin, does not hesitate to call the pogrom his name

    Those. I've never done it before, but hello here? So maybe as usual? How about Serdyukov or the Olympics?
    I honestly don’t understand what kind of advice the author wants to give to Yanukovych? The police are not able to suppress all appearances, a curfew must be imposed and mass arrests will be made for any appearance against his authority using the army, but the question is, will the army want this and what will it lead to in the future? Well, Putin and Lukashenko will certainly applaud, but Yanukovych will forever remain an outcast like Lukashenko, the question is whether he wants this? Yanukovych has two ways:
    1. Try to use the army to suppress all appearances.
    2. Call an early presidential election.
    If anyone has other options, I would like to hear.
    1. Platov
      0
      27 January 2014 11: 17
      Swap places with Julia and grab a son.
      1. wanderer_032
        0
        27 January 2014 12: 07
        Do not change, but reconnect. Something like that. wink
    2. +3
      27 January 2014 12: 01
      Quote: Nayhas
      1. Try to use the army to suppress all appearances.

      The Minister of Defense preferred the Tahrir Square option. Not ripe boy, unconscious ...
      Quote: Nayhas
      2. Call an early presidential election.

      Pride will not allow Janek to leave his place voluntarily. Only when maydanutye kicked out.
      No middle ground.
      New Year (and with it Santa Claus) with miracles left behind.
    3. +6
      27 January 2014 12: 27
      Nayhas (3) RU Today, 08:50
      .... Yanukovych has two ways:
      1. Try to use the army to suppress all appearances.
      2. Call an early presidential election.
      If anyone has other options, I would like to hear

      Unfortunately in Ukraine at the moment there is no person in power who would take responsibility for suppressing the state. coup. Power structures are incapable, except maybe Interior Minister Zakharchenko, judging by his behavior and statements, but he is bound hand and foot by the criminal behavior of the supreme power. If he takes the initiative, he will be the state. a criminal who has exceeded his authority. Yanukovych and the Party of Regions are political corpses. The only way to save ourselves from slipping into bloody chaos is the introduction of an emergency, the resignation of the Cabinet of Ministers, the dissolution of the Rada, the resignation of presidential powers by Yanukovych, we will create a national salvation committee endowing Zakharchenko with special powers, with full guaranteed military and political support from Russia. The only real combat-ready power structure is currently the Ministry of Internal Affairs, its special forces and internal forces. The Ministry of Defense and the Security Service of Ukraine outside the brackets, due to the huge number of factors, which are too cumbersome to comment on here. Galicia is a post-factum-independent education from Ukraine. So, it will be necessary to take measures to unblock the Berkut and explosives bases and to orderly withdraw from this territory, if possible, to destroy the military infrastructure there. Building a defensive barrier along the border with the western territories, and restoring order in the central and eastern parts with a tough clean-up of groups of Bandera militants. And then the political and economic formation of the existing two territorial associations. In conclusion, the main "but" is whether there is a strong personality who will take responsibility for such actions. And this is purely my vision of a way out of this situation, again with my negligible zero possibilities of influencing the current situation. Only Putin and his staff have real preparations, analyzed and compared his actions and behavior in recent major foreign policy events with the current one, everything points to this. Time will tell.
    4. dmb
      +1
      27 January 2014 12: 41
      I'm afraid that time is lost. Of course, the fate of Yanukovych, if anyone cares, it is him and his inner circle. However, even before trying to use the army, the government could well use the police and explosives. She does not do this, but time passes, and it works for the opposition. A party relying only on defense always loses. Early elections are also a victory for the opposition. This is the fulfillment of their requirements, and therefore the scenario of the West will be implemented. Ukraine, as a public entity, will be an enemy, not a friend of Russia.
  9. +10
    27 January 2014 09: 01
    The only thing that will save Ukraine is the deployment of troops. There are 5 soldiers per 1st protester. Introduce a curfew, block the streets. Temporarily block the use of social networks and cellular communications.
    1. +6
      27 January 2014 09: 12
      It’s difficult to come up with a more terrible decision ... The very first military unit, which will begin to engage in the struggle against internal enemies, will become a catalyst for the emergence of units supporting Maydanovites. Are you sure that the commanders in Western Ukraine are not local and do not support Westernist ideas? not sure.
    2. 0
      27 January 2014 17: 05
      Quote: Clever man
      The only thing that will save Ukraine is the deployment of troops.

      for this, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Security Service of Ukraine will be enough for this, only the command "front" is needed, well, maybe more commands to search for deserters.
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  10. +17
    27 January 2014 09: 04
    The army is unlikely to want to participate in the suppression of speeches. The Minister of Defense has already announced that the army will not intervene. Elections that in the presidential election will lead to a split because the Natsiks will only strengthen their positions, and if the president comes, the process of leaving the regions of southeast and south of Ukraine that shares their views will go at an accelerated pace.
    “We will be forced to renounce the centuries-old common history with Russia, forget the Russian language, live with the stigma of“ Jew, ”“ b, ”“ stranger, ”and, under Nazi slogans, to betray the feat of our fathers and grandfathers who defeated fascism. Relying on the will of the Crimeans who have chosen us, we declare that we will not give Crimea to extremists and neo-Nazis, who seek to seize power in Ukraine at the cost of splitting the country and the blood of its citizens. Crimeans will never participate in illegitimate elections, will not recognize their results and will not live in “Bandera” Ukraine! ” and then we will raise the question of the withdrawal of Crimea from Ukraine, the statement said.
    78 of 81 deputies voted for such a decision, two deputies abstained, one voted against
    1. +4
      27 January 2014 09: 17
      Quote: morpogr
      Army unlikely to want to participate in crackdown

      Ukrainian ministers constantly say something, the sense of this is zero.
  11. +2
    27 January 2014 09: 13
    Yanukovych is following in Gorbachev's footsteps, trying to "politically resolve" what is not regulated in principle. Comes under pressure from Western politicians

    Until the end of the week there will be no emergency - that means there will be GV.
  12. +7
    27 January 2014 09: 17
    But what about our media, which should be more free than the president to call a spade a spade?

    And our media chew snot. Blow in the ass of Western democracy. Anyhow it didn’t work out.
    1. +7
      27 January 2014 10: 53
      Quote: hitech
      And our media chew snot. Blow in the ass of Western democracy.

      The so-called "our media" are Western. There is a fairly large percentage of their money in the authorized capital.
  13. +15
    27 January 2014 09: 19
    I never thought that in Ukraine there are so many fascist scum, just amazed at the amount ....
    1. Meriamon
      -12
      27 January 2014 13: 02
      Please throw the stamps out of your head! If Natsik and-it is not better than Yanyk and bandits like them. Who drive Ukraine into debt and so on!

      Come and see the number of majors, communists in Mercedes and expensive suits, which only Simonenko is worth. They stupidly sit on the head of the people.

      But it’s easier to shout about the Natsik. They are not particularly like in Kiev either. But Donetsk bandits are even worse. Do not confuse.
      1. Jogan-xnumx
        +5
        27 January 2014 16: 19
        Quote: Meriamon
        Please throw the stamps out of your head!

        Very good advice! For you personally. Hands thrown up in the Nazi salute, of course, is "better" than the communists, who built so much during the Soviet Union that brainless Ukraine is still afloat ...
        1. peter_sh
          -3
          27 January 2014 20: 01
          And what did the descendants of the communists have built up during these 23 years?
          All these Ephraim, Kuchma, Kravchenko, Dobkina, Boyko, etc., etc.?
          This mr "zh, who yesterday carried her party card in her pocket and was crucified at party meetings, and
          robbed the people of Ukraine.

          Compare the standard of living in the Czech Republic and Ukraine, where the commies are right under the backside + lustration, and a pretty decent human country, not that we have a cross between a scoop and wild capitalism, which have taken the most disgusting signs from everywhere. all this is our Russian-Ukrainian servility to those in power.
          1. +2
            28 January 2014 07: 47
            And what have you done the proud eagle in your life that you built, or is it below the dignity of the nobleman, let the lackeys plow?
        2. +2
          27 January 2014 21: 02
          Quote: Jogan-64
          thrown off their hands in the Nazi greeting, of course, is "better" than the communists, who built so much during the USSR,

          Well, compare the current Communists and those who built the USSR. The present are the same grabbers and bandits. Personally, I think that the last communist died in the 53rd.
          1. Jogan-xnumx
            0
            1 February 2014 11: 48
            Quote: lonely
            Well, compare the current Communists and those who built the USSR. The present are the same grabbers and bandits. Personally, I think that the last communist died in the 53rd.

            Don't tell! It was just the top of the communists of the mid-late 80s that were those opportunistic grabbers who had failed ... the USSR, without creating anything. After the collapse of the Union, they immediately "repainted" in democrats, nationalists and other rubbish, disowning the CPSU, due to which they climbed to the top. I don’t know about you, but in Ukraine there were just real communists left after the rest of the trash fled. Therefore, they are pressed by thieves both from the authorities and from the opposition.
  14. calocha
    +3
    27 January 2014 09: 23
    Yanukovych raised the creatures, and they ... hang him. Analysts of the Customs Union need to do an in-depth analysis so that this does not happen in our country, maybe it’s worthwhile in our border regions to create self-defense units to fight Bendera and other euro integrators?
    1. +8
      27 January 2014 10: 25
      These creatures there have been growing for over 20 years, one of which is worth Yushchenko.
  15. +3
    27 January 2014 09: 23
    Quote: Igor39
    I never thought that in Ukraine there are so many fascist scum, just amazed at the amount ....

    Apparently they were intensely nurtured in Bendery bins.
  16. +14
    27 January 2014 09: 24
    The West occupies Ukraine using the following tools of information and political war: 1) The presence of foreign accounts of the Ukrainian "elite. 2) Corruption and venality of local authorities. 3) Support by the West for the" infantry "grown over the years in the face of the Neo-Banderites. 4) Insufficient reaction of Russia to what is happening, which is explained by paragraphs 1 and 2 only of the Russian "elite." from Ukraine.
    1. 0
      27 January 2014 12: 59
      By the way, a very effective method
  17. +17
    27 January 2014 09: 30
    It was necessary to press in the bud. Now metastases have already begun, the disease has started, the countdown for Ukraine is also there. Hope is only a miracle, and although I still believe in miracles as a child, they are rare, extremely rare. recourse
  18. +5
    27 January 2014 09: 32
    But what about our media, which should be more free than the president to call a spade a spade? Our media openly support the Maydanuty people, yesterday I heard on a car radio how the host crumbled in compliments towards Klitschko and his Facebook posts.
  19. +5
    27 January 2014 09: 43
    Quote: demon184
    But what about our media, which should be more free than the president to call a spade a spade? Our media openly support the Maydanuty people, yesterday I heard on a car radio how the host crumbled in compliments towards Klitschko and his Facebook posts.

    Fool. She had to go there herself and get cobblestone between her eyes or a cocktail by the scruff of the neck.
  20. +11
    27 January 2014 10: 01
    The disintegration of Ukraine is not the worst option. The worst option is if Yanukovych, under pressure from the West, continues to systematically surrender power to the rebels. But to do this gradually, and with the creation of the illusion of legality. Thus, he will deprive the southeast and Crimea of ​​the legal opportunity to create their own state and "Euro-Benderians" "will move away all Ukraine .
    In order to counteract this, Russia needs to act now. It needs to be made clear that Russia will protect the Russians, as well as all citizens of the former USSR (as the successor of the USSR) from lawlessness, manifestations of fascism, etc., Russia will not agree to pseudo-elections are under the control of the rebels and does not recognize their results. It is necessary to begin direct negotiations with regional and public leaders of the East and South of Ukraine, military, public figures. It is necessary to create and finance their media, NGOs, and self-defense units.
    If this is not done, I'm afraid we can lose Ukraine, with all its Russian people, for a very long time. And get a gloomy prospect for the emergence of NATO bases near Kharkov and Donetsk.
    1. +6
      27 January 2014 10: 18
      If Russia surrenders Ukraine, then we all (in Russia) can order wooden overcoats. Since there will no longer be any doubt that our authorities will do the same to us.
  21. +9
    27 January 2014 10: 02
    Friends, a request to those who are from Ukraine and writes on the Berkut support page. It seems to me that the banderlogs have hacked the VK page from the phone has never entered yet, now it does not let me go. If hacking could write any nasty things. See if this is so apologizing. VK Lyadov Boris. Thank.
    1. Jogan-xnumx
      +2
      27 January 2014 17: 05
      Hmm ... I can’t go to my VK page. In general, nothing furs at the entrance. No sign. I'll try later ...
  22. +3
    27 January 2014 10: 05
    Quote: RUSS
    Perhaps the demarcation of Ukraine is the only way to release Galicia into free swimming, this subsidized region with the predominance of Greek Catholics and Orthodox schismatics of the UOC-KP, speaking a surrogate of the Ukrainian-Polish language with the borrowing of German words. A region where the positions of extreme nationalists and European integrators are very strong.


    To arrange a sabotage in Europe, to give them the "zapadentsev" and that's the end of it. The regions are beggars, there is nothing but show off. Let them be fed, watered and wiped their asses. And the time will come for the "banderlogs" as complete as us now.
    1. Jogan-xnumx
      +2
      27 January 2014 17: 22
      Quote: Sh.O.K.
      To arrange a sabotage in Europe, to give them "zapadentsev" and that's the end of it.

      Yeah. SHCHAZZZZZ !!! It’s straight, such fools in Europe are there and they will take these self-assured asshole cleaners for themselves. What for do they need Europe? Even with its flimsy territory ... Without the whole of Ukraine, no one needs these rogulstats there for nothing. They can at least cope with muslims.
  23. +4
    27 January 2014 10: 12
    Quote: igordok
    b) Poles and Jews hostile to us. "With regard to the group b) it was proposed a little later -" to destroy in the struggle, in particular those who will defend the regime: resettle in their lands, destroy, mainly the intelligentsia, which should not be allowed into what governing bodies, in general, to make it impossible to "produce" the intelligentsia, access to schools, etc. The leaders to destroy ... Assimilation of the Jews is excluded. "

    So I say that the "Bandera" they still show. Where are Klyachko and Yatsenyuk interestingly climbing? The Jews themselves.
    1. +1
      27 January 2014 11: 45
      It's simple, Yatsenyuk wants power, and Klitschko Europeans whisper in his ear bluntly in his ear, so he obeys.
      1. +2
        27 January 2014 19: 22
        Quote: TiGRoO
        Klitschko blunt Europeans in his ear Europeans whisper, so he obeys.

        Klitschko has German citizenship, and what he is just doing business now. He will smell fried right away.
  24. +6
    27 January 2014 10: 16
    And what’s interesting. For almost a week everyone (well, not all, all, but everyone) has been saying: You have to, you have to, these to the fingernail, those to the camera, etc., etc. And I’m sure that the government hears and knows all this. But nevertheless, does nothing. Indeed, if the Russian soul is not understood, then the Ukrainian and even more so (in all respects). After all, how many years did these tyanolkai raise. How many provocations and excesses related to the resuscitation of Ukrainian Nazism have already been. It is Nazism, not nationalism. In general, nmv, healthy nationalism has not bothered anyone, and where it is not there, prosperity has blossomed, with all its consequences for the titular nations and the state economy.
    It's sad. Sorry for the Ukrainians. And it is disgusting to look at their "leaders" on both sides.
  25. +10
    27 January 2014 10: 19

    freedom, as in 91, only one way ...
    1. +1
      27 January 2014 14: 19
      It is clear that the authorities are to blame for the fact that people came out to the square, that with their vague statements and position pushed many to unrest, but there are also many trained "militants" here. Which are very aggressive. In fact, they need to be caught from the crowd and planted.
      The sooner the authorities begin to do this, the better for her, unless of course she has decided to surrender it, in exchange for her safety and the preservation of her accounts abroad.
  26. +1
    27 January 2014 10: 20
    And so it is clear that Zapadensky wuyks will separate and go to Geyevropu with dense columns.
    Apparently, Kiev will no longer be the capital of Ukraine. It is time for the government to move to another city.
    1. Jogan-xnumx
      0
      27 January 2014 17: 28
      Sorry, madam! hi Bullshit said, sir! hi
  27. +14
    27 January 2014 10: 35
    At the risk of provoking indignation and negating my karma not decently, I will express myself, for I see the one-sidedness of judgments. In Ukraine, a tangle of problems, of course, there are agents of influence, direct interference in the internal affairs of foreign states, of course there are Zapadenskie banderlogs, fascists, moronic opposition, but .... The detonator for such strong indignation, the tacit consent of the people, universal condemnation, is primarily Yanukovych himself and his gang. For several years of his reign, he has done so much, stole, and depressed that now all this hiccups to him. And he did it not in secret, so transparent that all this was visible and understandable.
    1. +1
      28 January 2014 01: 50
      Of course, Yanukovych is largely to blame, and many people initially went to the Maidan out of their convictions, but do they really not see that the situation has gone beyond the bounds of lawlessness? Why do not go home? They would leave and leave some Natsiks, and so you look and there are a lot of people there and the feeling that all the people of Ukraine are against, which of course is not so ..
  28. +4
    27 January 2014 10: 38
    Meanwhile, Bandera began to arm themselves in the west officially ...

    The initiative group of Lviv residents on the creation of the organization "National Guard of Ukraine" included men who own legal firearms, and in the conditions allowed by the Constitution, will protect citizens when they are in danger. This was announced by a member of the initiative group Svyatoslav Yavorivsky.

    “We are not extremists, we are not terrorists, we are not threatening anyone, but we will give a worthy answer to the looters, traitors to our people, who will commit violence and lawlessness,” Yavorivsky said.

    He also called for the creation of similar organizations throughout Ukraine and to follow the example of the National Guard.

    Activists plan to hold in the near future. They will protect citizens when they are in danger.
    1. +1
      27 January 2014 10: 40
      “We are not extremists, we are not terrorists, we are not threatening anyone, but we will give a worthy answer to the looters, traitors to our people, who will commit violence and lawlessness,” Yavorivsky said.

      "traitors" are communists and about the Russian population, all this is sad ...
      1. +1
        27 January 2014 10: 43
        Volyn policemen said they were serving the Ukrainian people and would not use force against protesters, UNIAN reports.

        “We are with the people. We are Ukrainians, ”the commander of the policemen guarding the regional administration building said.
        1. +3
          27 January 2014 10: 48
          Here comes the more positive news.

          The authorities of the Dnipropetrovsk region, where on Sunday they stormed the regional administration, said they were ready to give a decisive response to any attempts to destabilize the situation in the region. , as well as endanger civilians, "- said, in particular, the head of the Dnipropetrovsk regional state administration Dmitry Kolesnikov.

          Also in Zaporozhye and Odessa, police and people catch banderlogs!
          1. +1
            27 January 2014 10: 59
            In Dnepropetrovsk detained 37 people who participated in the assault on the regional state administration. The detainees were taken to the district police departments of the city. This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine.
            1. +1
              27 January 2014 11: 02
              According to reports from local residents, in Zaporozhye, Berkut fighters, along with volunteers from among local residents, patrol the city and unjustifiably use violence against all those who are suspected of sympathy for the protesters. It is also reported that out of the windows occupied by the police and the “aunts” of the regional administration they pour cold water on everyone who is trying to approach the institution.

              Previously reported the dispersal of the rally in Zaporozhye. According to unverified information, up to a hundred people were injured during the dispersal, three journalists were missing.

              YOUNG PEOPLE and lying to the press on the wallow, oh yes ours, oh yes handsome !!!
              1. +2
                27 January 2014 11: 05
                Donetsk special forces storm the barricades in Vasilkovo near Kiev. Earlier in the media it was reported that eleven buses with Donetsk numbers, in which there were soldiers of the special forces, arrived in Vasilkov for redeployment.

                video link

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzq-Pmh1TSE
                1. +2
                  27 January 2014 11: 10
                  The regional administration in Nikolaev the third day on duty the local residents who do not want to capture the building by Ukrainian nationalists, reports ITAR-TASS with reference to the press secretary of the regional governor.

                  Another attempt to seize the institution was made on Sunday, January 26, by the forces of about a hundred young people. Seeing the approaching radicals, the defenders joined hands, creating a "living chain" and began to chant: "Do not miss the Nazis!".
            2. +12
              27 January 2014 11: 18
              By the way, in Dnepropetrovsk the police and our guys in the amount of about 1000 fought almost wall to wall with visiting Natsiks, there were a lot of victims and there the police use all means, so the west will not pass !!!
              1. +6
                27 January 2014 12: 06
                Quote: TiGRoO
                By the way, in Dnepropetrovsk the police and our guys in the amount of about 1000 fought almost wall to wall with visiting Natsiks, there were a lot of victims and there the police use all means, so the west will not pass !!!

                We just need to wish the guys good luck.
                But.
                After the first shot (even in the air!), Everything will go into the "hot", fire phase.
                1. +3
                  27 January 2014 12: 15
                  I believe there will be no peaceful outcome, but I hope for a peaceful settlement of pah pah and wood ...
            3. AVV
              +3
              27 January 2014 12: 25
              And in public, you need to put them on a count !!! That would not be different for others !!!
    2. +7
      27 January 2014 12: 09
      Fighters of internal troops released Sumy regional administration

      On the night of Sunday to Monday, January 27, there was a forceful dispersal of protesters and the release of the building of the regional state administration.
      1. +4
        27 January 2014 12: 14
        Quote: TiGRoO
        Fighters of internal troops released Sumy regional administration

        Hooray...
        This shows the attitude towards what is happening by region.
        As an indicator of loyalty.
        I don't want to "croak", but it looks like the division of the country has begun ....
        1. +9
          27 January 2014 12: 17
          Southeast, they just do not get it! But help from the Russian Federation, as well as Belarus, is needed.
  29. 0
    27 January 2014 10: 44
    Yanukovych is following in the footsteps of Gorbachev,


    All forgive ... the same, only the salary is different. And the end is different.
  30. +5
    27 January 2014 10: 57
    Quote: Azzi
    At the risk of provoking indignation and negating my karma not decently, I will express myself, for I see the one-sidedness of judgments. In Ukraine, a tangle of problems, of course, there are agents of influence, direct interference in the internal affairs of foreign states, of course there are Zapadenskie banderlogs, fascists, moronic opposition, but .... The detonator for such strong indignation, the tacit consent of the people, universal condemnation, is primarily Yanukovych himself and his gang. For several years of his reign, he has done so much, stole, and depressed that now all this hiccups to him. And he did it not in secret, so transparent that all this was visible and understandable.


    Why are you wrong? You're right. And on the site when discussing this issue, this topic has already been discussed. It has already been discussed here that, had it not been for the opposition of Bendera, the United States and the Euro Union, perhaps all of Ukraine would have supported them. And how right are political scientists who say that citizens having economic ties and private property abroad cannot be allowed to power and rule the state.
  31. +2
    27 January 2014 11: 07
    Perhaps this development of the situation is a political game for the West, namely, to show the true face of "peaceful protestants." The seizure of state institutions, showing a picture of what is happening for the "tolerant" gay union, they say, we want to negotiate, but they do not even think to stop "peaceful protests" .This may serve as a pretext for making a decision to restore order (emergency). In any case, this is already too protracted and only harsh (cruel) measures can restore order. Although there are already doubts about Yanyk's ability to take decisive measures .. ...
  32. +2
    27 January 2014 11: 15
    Yanukovych’s campaign dried up his eggs, since he is so sucking on with fascist bandits. In the same Europe, the same Natsik would have been dispersed long ago by someone in the huts, and by someone in the prison cells. With these methods, he spokes Ukrainian Independence.
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  34. Platov
    0
    27 January 2014 11: 31
    GDP slowly tightens this nut, carefully so as not to break the thread.
  35. +3
    27 January 2014 11: 44
    An example of the fact that the "evropogromschiki" immediately set their tail between their legs and scatter, as soon as the regional authorities just perform their functions appeared that night. In the regional cities of Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, Cherkassy, ​​Sumy, even the small local militia repulsed attacks on administrative buildings and detained several dozen zealous pogromists. And in Kiev, the central government continues to be in nirvana. And seeing this stupid inactivity and impunity of the rioters, they only become more satanic, lose the country, and get colonial Ethiopia in the center of Europe!
  36. oscar
    0
    27 January 2014 12: 02
    It is in such situations that the people, national self-determination, are manifested. We see what the Western Ukrainian people really are. The mistake was to give the eastern lands to Ukraine ...
    1. +2
      27 January 2014 12: 13
      The collapse of the USSR was a mistake, if there hadn’t been a hunchback now, una-unso ...
  37. +3
    27 January 2014 12: 06
    How to make a revolution in Ukraine, and who are the participants (and so on throughout Malorosia):

    For the assault on the Sumy Oblast Administration they paid 1500 UAH.
    For the storming of the Sumy regional administration, the militants were promised UAH 1500. for everyone. The participants of the "protest action" themselves told about this to the correspondent of "Ukrainska Pravda".

    In particular, one resident of the regional center Krolevets said that those who agreed to go to Sumy for a protest were promised 300 UAH. just for participating in the rally, throwing stones at the windows cost 500 UAH., and for direct participation in the attack on the RSA was regarded by customers at 1500 UAH.

    At the same time, as the UP correspondent reports from the scene, contrary to statements, it cannot be said that the building of the regional state administration is controlled by the putschists. They are located only on the ground floor, blocking one of the porches. While through the second entrance to the administration you can enter freely.
    1. +2
      27 January 2014 12: 11
      Fighters of internal troops released Sumy regional administration

      On the night of Sunday to Monday, January 27, there was a forceful dispersal of protesters and the release of the building of the regional state administration.
      1. wanderer_032
        +4
        27 January 2014 13: 03
        Thank you for the good news. TiGRoO.
        There is hope that Ukraine will survive. Thanks to its citizens, for whom their country is not an empty phrase and some kind of stain on the political map of the world. They want to wipe off a bunch of Natsik idiots and their foreign masters who do not care about the people of Ukraine, then how many people can die in this meat grinder started by them, in order to satisfy their insatiable ambitions.
        1. +4
          27 January 2014 14: 02
          I try to follow the events, I’m very worried myself, I have many friends in Ukraine in Kharkov, Donetsk in the Crimea, they need to say thank you for protecting the Southeast from visitors, for understanding how everything can end badly don't drive the zapadentsev ...
  38. +20
    27 January 2014 12: 23
    Odessans, just handsome ... smile
    Kill the fascist with a dance!

    Do you know what Odessa residents did against Bandera?
    No, you don’t know if you weren’t Odessa for even a minute.

    Yesterday, information went on social networks that the Nazis were again going to storm the Odessa administration.
    Yeah, one already tried, then left for Slobodka (for those who are not in Odessa, there’s still a psychiatric hospital)
    But this time it was all more serious.
    Well, I went to defend Odessa, yeah.
    As it turned out, I'm not alone, thank God. The exact amount cannot be calculated. With me, at the same time, there were about a thousand people. But people came up, left - it is cold for Odessa residents. I, Vyatsky, and then froze. And where are they? So, the police say that in general, there were about 5 (five) thousand people.
    We stood on Shevchenko, and the Nazis temporarily occupied Duke. Why there? And I’ll answer you - my friend has a cousin who makes himself a gesheft for coffee there, yes. But there are no administrative buildings nearby. Personally, Duke didn’t see such a thing, show him Natsik from the fourth hatch.
    Then the Nazis went to us.
    And there it began.
    There were about 200-300 people.
    Under three flags: the European Union, Galicia, Ukraine.
    Who met them?
    They were met by two lines of explosives and militia, then Odessa residents, then the Berkut strike force and in reserve the militias who were sitting in the administration itself.
    Well?
    No, you can twitch ...
    WHERE?
    They started yelling about Ukrainian fat, panda, something else ...
    Do you know what we did?
    We cut Odessa songs at full power.
    "Oh, Odessa is a pearl by the sea ..."
    And they began to dance - no, well, it's cold - so as not to?
    And now this mosquito squeak: Shame! just died against the background of "Myasoyedovskaya street!"
    They stood for forty minutes, fifty. Well, an hour.
    And then slowly and sadly left the square. Their flags were ponur, the figures were tired.
    But we didn't even twitch in their direction. Why do we need it? We are on the defensive. We have two tents with potbelly stoves, field kitchens, a number of assortments, hot tea. And these only have "Gat" on frozen lips.
    Do you know which flags flown over the Odessans?
    Russian flag.
    St. Andrew's flag.
    Victory Banner.
    Odessa flag.

    After the Galicians began to bring down from the square - some of the paid ran to drink tea to us. This you will see in the video.
    In the meantime, the photo.
    I warn you: I’m not a photographer, I shot some crap on a mine detector. I do not care.
    Go?
    And not, first cut a song:


    Here, photos, videos and further story ...
    http://oko-planet.su/politik/newsday/228131-odessity-zhivoy-cepyu-zaschitili-adm
    inistraciyu-ot-nacistov.html
    1. +5
      27 January 2014 12: 55
      this is especially pleased
      If you wanted: blood \ intestines \ sucked up - this is not for Odessa. We first cut off, then give a kick and send home.

      Well done Odessa citizens, there couldn’t be other actions from you
    2. +2
      27 January 2014 17: 48
      Quote: Russ69
      Odessans, just handsome ... Kill the fascist with a dance!

      It's five!
      Well done guys! The main thing to catch the enemy off guard)))))
      RUSSIA WITH YOU
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    4. Jogan-xnumx
      +2
      27 January 2014 18: 07
      Quote: Russ69
      Kill the fascist with a dance!

      Class !!!!!!!!!!!!! SO KEEP, ODESSA! good drinks soldier
  39. AVV
    +1
    27 January 2014 12: 24
    Quote: Canep
    Either Yanukovych will go to a military solution to the Maidan problem, or Ukraine will fall into two (at least) parts.

    The choice here is not big or they are you or you are them !!! And there are no other options !!!
  40. 0
    27 January 2014 12: 44
    "The West set out to split Ukraine, demolishing the" Yanukovych regime "in order to tear off, at least," its "western piece, since it failed to become Euro-associated - to swallow Ukraine whole."
    And I still consider the inclusion of Western Ukraine in the USSR as a mistake of Stalin. A painful organ struck the whole body with gangrene.
  41. dv-v
    -4
    27 January 2014 13: 02
    which text should be read or not read, or, if printed, thrown into the trash? which is downright a refrain with "we" - we think we know the stories from the past of the stupid propaganda of all sorts of shitty political workers. this heartlessly cynical impudence to speak on behalf of and on behalf of which no one has ever given or delegated.
  42. -4
    27 January 2014 13: 16
    I read posts, comrades from Russia and I am simply amazed. How embittered you are. But I understand you the same way. You live in your information space. Because it is difficult for you to blame it.
    I’ll try to briefly explain what is happening in Ukraine now. we have.
    When the Donetsk people came to power, they promised, in addition to prosperity, to make the second state language, Russian. For the uninitiated, this is only the "name" of the problem. Which is much broader. But when he came to power, he gave up on everything he promised. The Donetsk clan put its people in all power and law enforcement structures. Stupidly squeezed out all profit-making business, right down to commercial stalls. In Crimea, practically, it seized all the land. Even the land of the State. Zapovednik recently sold huge areas to the Chinese. All the police turned into an organized crime group. They are no longer law enforcement agencies, by definition!
    Before minus click on the links:
    http://glagol.in.ua/2014/01/23/kryim-made-in-china/
    http://kraina.name/articles/kompromat/4511-azarov-i-yanukovich-glavnie-specialis

    ti-po-zahvatu-krim /
    People already just got tired of living, not in the country, but in the zone.
    1. +7
      27 January 2014 13: 27
      Quote: jekasimf
      But I understand you, the same way. You live in your information space. Because it is difficult for you to blame it.

      In Russia, they show two sides, albeit with their own bias. But Old, not only from ORT take ...

      Crimea, the people thought that their "Channel 5" was filming Ukrainian.
      1. +2
        27 January 2014 13: 46
        And zapadentsy will write that these are all provocateurs ... The guy with the St. George ribbon is handsome)))
    2. +6
      27 January 2014 13: 39
      Yes, we don’t care about Yanyka, you have teamed up with the Bandera fascists, chant their speeches and go to rallies under their flags! In the West, they banned the Communist Party besides the Party of Regions! Not one normal adequate Russian will not approve of this !!! This liberal-fascist infection in our country is evaluated absolutely adequately !!! Moreover, Yanyk went to Russia, raised 15 billion + lowered gas prices + agreements on the nuclear industry, aircraft construction, etc., and you tell us that everyone is not telling us that, my dear we have Internet and we also have your Ukrainian news we read and see, and appeals like whoever does not jump. speak for themselves.

      There are no fools here! so go to the forest !!!
    3. wanderer_032
      +4
      27 January 2014 13: 58
      Quote: jekasimf
      The whole police turned into an organized crime group

      This was especially evident from the video here in the comment above.
      I can only say one thing: if in Russia our riot police or explosives would start to stone, burn and beat.
      In such a crowd, they would simply open fire from armored personnel carriers or infantry fighting vehicles, and especially zealous morons snipers would instantly shoot their head off.
      Everywhere there are problems, but the slaughter unleash the last thing.
    4. ork
      ork
      +4
      27 January 2014 14: 18
      For jekasimf
      It's hard to disagree with you. However, I dare to point out that the police (at the moment) are the only force worthy of support, not condemnation. Dissolving (as some democrats suggest) special forces is the path to chaos and all the other "delights" of crowd democracy.
      And you did not wonder why, before the events on the Maidan, the police were presented to society only in the negative ??? The central channels were hysterical about popular anger in Vradiyevka, etc. Is it because of several scum in uniform that it is necessary to burn the courts, law enforcement departments ??
      The news showed how an Amer police officer shot a young man in a car. So what??? Where is the popular anger ?? Where are the assaults on police stations ??
      This is a special operation to warm up and prepare public opinion in the country. You will analyze the news reports of the main TV channels. The main broadcast is a solid negative. Everything is bad, there is no law, only emergencies, and even close-ups. The same "political scientists" broadcast all the TOK-SHOW. Just an APOCALYPSE. This is a suggestion.
      Not a single REVOLUTION in the history of mankind has led to order and justice.
      1. wanderer_032
        0
        27 January 2014 16: 12
        Yes, I was just talking about this and only the video clip, this one I had in mind:
    5. +2
      27 January 2014 14: 19
      If your situation finally gets out of control and a citizen begins, then, after half a year, you will write back what feelings you feel, how life is, whether it worked out, the comrades will be interested. Just do not disappear, we will be waiting for you!
    6. Jogan-xnumx
      +3
      27 January 2014 18: 22
      Quote: jekasimf
      The whole militia turned into an organized crime group. They are already, well, simply not law enforcement agencies, by definition!

      What do you want? One organized criminal group replaced another organized criminal group. The territory is the same. Remember the main "policeman" Yu "g" ik Lutsenko. For example, I remember well the episode of how his brother Luhansk cops took him on a large-scale smuggling along with some orange officials from the Regional State Administration. Lutsik, as if stung, rode to Lugansk and arranged a total recertification at the Department of Internal Affairs. He dismissed the two operas who launched this case. Fortunately, the guys already had seniority (both were lieutenant colonels) and they were dismissed on a pension, although they were just professionals, not an organized criminal group. So where did the "legs grow" start?
      Quote: jekasimf
      People already just got tired of living, not in the country, but in the zone.

      So is this a reason to take the side of notorious fascists and radical killers? And let me ask you, where were you personally during the Orange Sabbath? Did they shout "Get Kuchma!", Or did they oppose at least something to the orange-pro-American plague?
      "Judge the sins of others
      You are all eager to break!
      Start with your
      And you won't get to strangers. "
      V. Shakespeare
      This is a present for you, for your overall development. hi
  43. Bandera
    -17
    27 January 2014 13: 37
    I sincerely regret the Russians for the news that comes from the zombie creator. In addition to the words of extremists, provocateurs, bandits and nationalists, you will not hear anything in the news.
    My colleagues, friends and acquaintances support Maidan. Some participated in the assault on the Vinnitsa Regional State Administration. They are not extremists, they are normal family people, with their problems and worries.
    My sibling is an BB officer. It is cordoned off at Grushevsky in Kiev. Everyone is standing, from private to colonel. Every day I call and ask about his health (now -20 in Kiev at night).

    This power has got everyone. Not only in Western Ukraine. My uncle lives in Odessa. He does not participate in rallies, as he is afraid for his health and the possible term for participation (up to 6 years). But he, like everyone else, supports what is happening.

    The message on Channel One about the rally in Lugansk in support of the current government especially smiled. The rally lasted 40 minutes, just for a pretty picture. The workers of the plant were rounded up under the threat of dismissal. In 2002-2004, I also attended similar events, as I was an employee of the state "Oschadbank".

    And today it’s a circus. "Titushki" (hired provocateurs) generally began to grind each other for a beautiful picture. My friend's report is here: http://frankensstein.livejournal.com/486029.html

    Peace to all.
    1. +13
      27 January 2014 13: 44
      call it everyone who disagrees with the Maidan? So do not be offended by the Nazis and Nazis, and with the nickname Bandera better not to star here!
      1. Drosselmeyer
        +7
        27 January 2014 14: 28
        In this you are right. This is the information policy of the Svidomites: call all those who disagree "titushki", "provocateurs", etc. Interestingly, the Maidan inode themselves do not notice their contradictions. When the banking Natsik were stormed in December, they were called “titushki” from the Maidan, and now they are called “victims of the regime,” that is, they are recognized as their own.
        And as for the support, do not support the power of the PR, so the question no longer stands for loyalty to Yanukovych, but the question arises of resistance to nationalist scumbags. And leaders are found in the struggle.
      2. +2
        27 January 2014 21: 16
        Quote: TiGRoO
        call it everyone who disagrees with the Maidan? So do not be offended by the Nazis and Nazis, and with a nickname Bandera better not to star here!
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    2. wanderer_032
      +5
      27 January 2014 14: 35
      The sweetly soothing comment you wrote however.
      And among your acquaintances, by chance, there are no those who at any moment will treat your brother with a fiery cocktail, or break his head with a cobblestone, or break his legs with reinforcement when he falls out of order (because someone from your "normal" people with gas sprayed it into his eyes)?
      And then what will you tell them?
      I forgive you for your brother. And so, good fellows, I praise you. Keep it up.
      And then you will go together to another region of Ukraine and there, together with your accomplices, you will kill your fellow citizens (you certainly do not want this, you want peace, but you can’t be forced into the house, but if you don’t go to the wall yourself put as a traitor), those who disagree with you.
      And all this for the amusement of those who push you forward under the bullets (if until they whistle above your head it’s nothing, it’s not long left if it goes on like that) trying to get rid of the heat with your hands, using cannon fodder.
      Are you happy with this prospect?
      1. Bandera
        -7
        27 January 2014 16: 33
        Two months of standing in the cold, rallies, protests, rallies.
        And that the authorities heard us? No, on the contrary, it adds fuel to the fire:
        - dispersed and beat students
        - selected for 6 months driver’s licenses for the rally to Mezhyhiria from more than 200 Avtomaydan motorists
        - adopted idiotic-dictatorial laws on January 16, on the prohibition of wearing helmets, masks, more than 5 cars, 15 years in prison, etc.
        - threats in the form of SMS and phone calls from unknown persons
        - beating, killing, torture, etc.

        Regarding collisions. I am very afraid for my brother. I'm sorry that today the soldiers are between a rock and a hard place.

        Today I submit a report to the Tax and Pension Fund. The authorities announced a simplified scheme for submitting via the Internet. A few days before this, I stood in line for 3 hours for a free electronic key.
        What do we have in the end. In the morning I try to submit a report, I downloaded several programs. A few tax calls requesting advice. And what we have, you need to either pay 200-300 hryvnias for a license for a year, or spend with free versions. Moreover, different reports are available in different programs, plus you must sign an agreement with your tax (at the place of residence).
        After that, you love your native power even more.

        I, like many Ukrainians, do not want war. We want to work in a free country. Free from bribes in the hospital, educational institutions, traffic police. Do not be afraid that one day your business will be squeezed out. They are not afraid of threats by phone and SMS. We want the authorities' words to be consistent with their deeds. We want you not to receive receipts for payment of LCD services more than your pension. We want finally the son of the prosecutor to answer for the sales employee when she was standing at the bus stop.

        This is the cry of the soul. I will not persuade anyone. For the European Union, people no longer even remember. Now for most of us this is not a clash between the West and Russia. This is a fight to the death with gangster power, the lawlessness of which reached its climax. Now many participants and just onlookers can get real lines up to 15 years.
        1. wanderer_032
          +3
          27 January 2014 17: 09
          If you really do not want war, then do not support the Nazi leaders, they work under control from outside, they are paid for it. They are mercenaries and they do not care about ordinary people who live there. They just fulfill the order and are ready to drive you under bullets regardless of how many you will lie there.
          Think about the consequences of this massacre in which they drag the country. About their loved ones, what will happen to them. If they take power, then many countries that are currently trading with you will turn away from you. There will be no trade in peacetime, even basic necessities will become a deficit or will jump in price significantly (which of the trade companies or private businessmen will be eager to discover something if they burn it down tomorrow or if some local prince with the support of lads with machine guns wants to take it away, simply because behind him is a small force?). You will live only worse, but not better. He will not be up to you, they will begin to share power. Therefore, there will be shooting on the streets and will be long.
          Are you comfortable with such a life?
          And all those who disagree, even in small things, they will shoot or hang.
          Is that what you want for your country, a minimum of 5 years of life in hard lawlessness? To you, what was under Yanukovych was how a paradise dream would be remembered then.
    3. Drosselmeyer
      +7
      27 January 2014 14: 38
      What are you saying? It turns out that there are not any Nazis with runes on their sleeves, it turns out that no one is trying to kill the police. Some are normal family people who do not understand what they live without working for two months and travel to the regions at their own expense.
      You better think that your family colleagues will soon begin to shoot at your brother an officer BB. And not because they personally hate him, but this will happen during the civil war.
      Yanukovych is not supported anywhere, but one should not think that everywhere they support nationalistic trash.
      By the way, to invoke Bandera on this forum, it already smacks of provocation.
    4. +3
      27 January 2014 15: 33
      Yes, go on talking about Russian servility, it’s enough to think that we are like North Korea in an information vacuum, no one really watches TV, we have Internet, including Ukrainian sites, and we don’t have live broadcasts from Maidan and Grushevsky.
      By the way, we have a lot of accessible sites paid for including Washington and Europe, the notorious rain channel, euronews, radio freedom, etc. etc. no one has canceled them, but I do not take it seriously like most, because outright Russophobia flows from there.
      Nobody supports Yanukovych here, but they will not morally allow a handful of paid Galicians to take away a huge amount of the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine and territories that were donated as an ally of Russia to Europe. Everything, too, was not easy for us after the collapse of the USSR, but we got out, survived the 90s, rise and develop, but there are difficulties, but we go forward ourselves without the help of the West, and even enduring their poking and cracking.
      1. Bandera
        +1
        27 January 2014 16: 40
        Yes, we are really developing. So successful that they urgently had to borrow $ 15 billion in Russia.
        Europe faded into the background. Now the question is not about the European Union. We ordered the way there another 10-20 years, at least.
        Now the question is about changing the system of power and its responsibility to taxpayers.
    5. +3
      27 January 2014 17: 07
      Quote: Bandera
      The message on the First Channel about the rally in Lugansk in support of the current government especially smiled.


      an amazing thing, Ukrainians so often mention Channel One, that I have the opinion that they don’t watch anything around him. don't like it, don't look.
    6. +1
      27 January 2014 17: 26
      We have some venal media really zombie. But the people (those who understand the situation) mainly watch reliable facts from Youtube and what people post on the site, so there is no need to "star" about zombies. The State Department itself was robustly "washed", with what rapture you rush to the shields of the Golden Eagle, already with foam at the mouth.
    7. +3
      27 January 2014 17: 48
      Quote: Bandera
      My colleagues, friends and acquaintances support Maidan.

      Well, that’s how Nick obliges you.
    8. Jogan-xnumx
      +6
      27 January 2014 18: 46
      Quote: Bandera
      The message on Channel One about the rally in Lugansk in support of the current government especially smiled. The rally took place over 40 minutes, only for a beautiful picture. They drove the factory workers under the threat of dismissal.

      You're lying! am I was in Lugansk yesterday. Personally. With like-minded people. Without any coercion! There, the Cossacks of the Regional State Administration defended. Even without cops practically. "Svolota", about fifty people, with their Bandera rags, scoffed at something in an undertone, such as "Zrada-ganba", and pissed off on Cossack checkers with whips. About 40 minutes later, they began to gurgle on the sly ...
      Do you want peace? Go to the Maidan and stand next to your brother VVshnik! It is he who protects the world, soldier and not you with your fascist friends.
    9. +5
      27 January 2014 19: 43
      How can they, your colleagues and friends, not support the Maidan when Bandera’s nickname itself?
      Like a fucking joker? Or an ideological Galician intellectual?
      There are some jokers here. Everything was good in Ukraine, tanks (and Iraqi armored personnel carriers) lol ) are fast, the industry works, the sea of ​​innovations and various modernizations, and over 20 years, it turns out there has not been a collapse, but preparation for European standards has become Europe. In Russia, they say, is even worse. And Putin is a fool and a gebist. Only now, their languages ​​are slightly pulled into a famous place.
      It seems to everyone it became clear hu is hu, without stupid explanations.
      And on the Maidan there were not only banderlogs, and in Kiev tens of thousands of local residents took to the streets.
      But the first violin is played by nationalists... The rest are in the role of dissatisfied with the authorities, but passive herd. And this kind of power (it did not change in essence, although the presidents and governments changed) was chosen by this very herd back in 1991. They thought the kind and patriotic "hetmans" would lead them to happiness and prosperity from the vile USSR and backward and poor Russia.
      Here is the result, sir! crying
      Choose the "good king"! Why burn tires together with policemen ?! fool
      Just do not write that everything that is happening now in Kiev and other places is like a trifle, petty hooliganism.
      May God grant Ukraine to come out of the crisis bloodlessly, and grant, part of its population, Lord, enlightenment in the brain.
  44. +2
    27 January 2014 13: 38
    Quote: sledgehammer102


    1. You know, I would love to have a Muscovite move the capital to Siberia, since my city has not been changed for the better in 15 years, some visitors, skyscrapers, cars ..... there’s no need for populist exclamations that Moscow lives at the expense of everyone, so every capital of any country acts and nothing can be changed here THIS is the first!
    2. I fully support the national idea of ​​introducing a ban on entry into my country of illiterate, dirty, unnecessary workers, which happens in 95%. Doctors, teachers, specialists ?? No, no it's not about these emigrants! BUT there are people like you thanks to these comrades breed like rabbits (Tajiks, Kyrgyz, etc., etc.) you think that those who are proud that he is Russian and respects their faith nationalist and fascist. The fact that these comrades come, get citizenship in the way known to us, and after a month of work here, they say that she is pregnant and we keep her for our taxes, when she leaves, do you think this is right? Me not!
    3. This is a foreign religion to us, why not invite Serbs, Greeks, Ukrainians, etc. with the same "rage" ??? They are much more preferable than Asians and Caucasians, since they are Slavs first, Orthodox second, and if they stay in Russia, only a plus.
    4. And if people come to power who say that Russian and Orthodoxy is the basis of Russia, and not tolerance! Those who say it’s time for millions to pack their things (and I don’t need to talk about janitors who want to work enough among Russians, the same applies to builders) That's what I will support in the elections (party, president) and my whole generation is 20-30 years old , 90% support me (note all segments of the population), but for people like you we are nationalists, stop living in pink glasses.
    You can argue about this for a long time ...
  45. +6
    27 January 2014 13: 41
    On January 26, the chairman of the Sevastopol City State Administration, Vladimir Yatsuba, addressed the townspeople in connection with what was happening in the country and especially in the western regions. Recall that there began the seizure of regional administrations.

    Vladimir Yatsuba thanked the townspeople who did not allow the rally to be held in Sevastopol. The mayor also thanked the "Golden Eagle", which, according to him, "coordinated everything so that we looked worthy."

    “They (the organizers of the European assembly in Sevastopol - ed.) Were counting on a fight and today it would be played on all channels,” said Vladimir Yatsuba.

    He turned to Sevastopol.

    “Sevastopol will not give up! If you cook it, I’ll go on TV and ask you to come if we know that they (provocateurs and extremists - eds.) Are coming here, ”the mayor said.

    He said that together with law enforcement agencies, the city’s leadership controls the situation at the entrance to the city, railway station, and tracks.

    “If there is, I will turn on TV. All our strength is that we have one point of view. Our task is to be united and obey the same order, because there are many provocateurs, they are trained, their chrysalis works ... People are afraid that this brown plague will come here. I ask you to obey one principle, keep calm, ”said Vladimir Yatsuba.

    He appealed to "all sane people, men who can protect Sevastopol."

    “I draw attention to the fact that we must gather those people who are ready to participate in the defense of Sevastopol the third. No need to protect me personally and my family. I grew up in such an area, I will defend if it comes to business. I do not ask to protect this or that building (administration and council - ed.), I ask to protect Sevastopol, ”said Vladimir Yatsuba.

    “We will never be the litter of the fascists!” Added the chairman of the Sevastopol City Council, Yuri Doinikov.
  46. +2
    27 January 2014 13: 53
    Perhaps the world has already shown enough in all its glory to those who are eager for power. Pogroms, atrocities, reports on militias paid by the special services, training camps, tactics, methods ... what else ... do you need ?! Now the turn is for decisive action on the part of Yanukovych. Crush like worms, like fleas. But will these actions be ... I would like to believe. Prudence to you, Ukrainians.
  47. ork
    ork
    +4
    27 January 2014 13: 55
    Quote: Nayhas
    Yanukovych has two ways:
    1. Try to use the army to suppress all appearances.
    2. Call an early presidential election.
    If anyone has other options, I would like to hear.

    The first way is not possible. For him (at least) it is necessary to enter a state of emergency. And if the "military" send a guarantor ??? Bummer for the whole world.
    Second? What will change ?! Half of the country is against - half for. And by the way, it's not a fact that the "rebels" need elections.
    This is ZUGZWANG. besides for all involved.
    In the latest reports, it is "beautifully" written about "Fedorovich's surrender of his team to the government." That's bullshit. There is no and never was a "command". There was a "pack of colleagues" in business. And by the way, why only two were offered positions in the government. ??? Where is THIRD. That is why he was bypassed.
    I propose (purely for universal democracy) to appoint Tyagnibok - MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS of Ukraine. Europe is obliged to support this step. And organize the first visit to glorious Poland. Then to the European Parliament. Only the visit should be accompanied by the symbolism of the force that he represented on the Maidan. So to speak - Revolution for export.
    1. +6
      27 January 2014 14: 47
      Quote: orek
      appoint a Foreign Minister of Ukraine.

      A second visit can be organized in Israel, with the same symbolism, so the Jews will be happy! laughing
    2. zmey_gadukin
      +3
      27 January 2014 14: 53
      Quote: orek
      Tyagniboka - MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS

      This will be a noble trolling)))
  48. -10
    27 January 2014 14: 00
    Quote: TiGRoO
    On January 26, the chairman of the Sevastopol City State Administration, Vladimir Yatsuba, addressed the townspeople in connection with what was happening in the country and especially in the western regions. Recall that there began the seizure of regional administrations.

    Vladimir Yatsuba thanked the townspeople who did not allow the rally to be held in Sevastopol. The mayor also thanked the "Golden Eagle", which, according to him, "coordinated everything so that we looked worthy."

    “They (the organizers of the European assembly in Sevastopol - ed.) Were counting on a fight and today it would be played on all channels,” said Vladimir Yatsuba.

    He turned to Sevastopol.

    “Sevastopol will not give up! If you cook it, I’ll go on TV and ask you to come if we know that they (provocateurs and extremists - eds.) Are coming here, ”the mayor said.

    He said that together with law enforcement agencies, the city’s leadership controls the situation at the entrance to the city, railway station, and tracks.

    “If there is, I will turn on TV. All our strength is that we have one point of view. Our task is to be united and obey the same order, because there are many provocateurs, they are trained, their chrysalis works ... People are afraid that this brown plague will come here. I ask you to obey one principle, keep calm, ”said Vladimir Yatsuba.

    He appealed to "all sane people, men who can protect Sevastopol."

    “I draw attention to the fact that we must gather those people who are ready to participate in the defense of Sevastopol the third. No need to protect me personally and my family. I grew up in such an area, I will defend if it comes to business. I do not ask to protect this or that building (administration and council - ed.), I ask to protect Sevastopol, ”said Vladimir Yatsuba.

    “We will never be the litter of the fascists!” Added the chairman of the Sevastopol City Council, Yuri Doinikov.

    All Sevastopol bosses-proteges of Yanukovych. Draw those conclusions yourself.
    1. Jogan-xnumx
      +3
      27 January 2014 19: 31
      Quote: jekasimf
      All Sevastopol bosses-proteges of Yanukovych. Draw those conclusions yourself.

      And you, sir, whose protege? Before Yanukovych’s protégés, there were Yushchenko’s proteges and behaved like looters. Do you want in Sevastopol Nazi henchmen? People will not be, if that. Not that alignment ...
      1. 0
        27 January 2014 19: 56
        We don’t drown Yatsub, he was under Kravchuk, Kuchma, Yushchenko, Yanukovych and all not in weak positions.
        1. Jogan-xnumx
          +2
          27 January 2014 20: 23
          Quote: Motors1991
          We don’t drown Yatsub, he was under Kravchuk, Kuchma, Yushchenko, Yanukovych and all not in weak positions.

          This still does not mean anything. Old Man, in Belarus, too, is not the first year. Every shobble is yapping at him, and the people are supporting ...
          1. -2
            27 January 2014 20: 54
            In Ukraine, such unsinkability suggests one thing: a rare bastard, so your comparison is not appropriate.
  49. Kowalsky
    +10
    27 January 2014 14: 03
    There is President of Ukraine Yanukovych in the presidential canteen in the city of Kiev. Reflects on what to have dinner. And suddenly from one of the trays where the pies lie, a quiet voice is heard:
    - Take me, Yanukovych! I'll come in handy for you!
    “What can you come in handy for me, little pie?” - surprised Yanukovych.
    - And I'm with eggs!
  50. +3
    27 January 2014 14: 10
    The authorities in Ukraine must respond extremely harshly to these pogroms, without any justification for the West and without reverence. Otherwise, this is not power, but a bunch of prostitutes who wiggle their buttocks in front of those who are surrendered.
  51. 0
    27 January 2014 14: 11
    In Ukraine, the situation can be considered still solvable. There it is already clear that the ideological split has passed territorially. In the end, they will make some noise and split up along the Dnieper. And they will arrange life in each half in the way that seems reasonable to them.
    But what will we do in Russia when the situation matures into the Ukrainian one? And she will ripen, because there is not enough for everyone, for there is a lot of everyone, but not enough of everything.
    After all, in our country, according to completely different understandings of life, the gap lies not between regions and regions, but between neighbors, work colleagues, and, perhaps, within each (or almost each) family.
    That's the problem...
    1. oscar
      +1
      27 January 2014 14: 25
      The idea is quite abstract. And I don’t find any real confirmation of your words.
  52. Kowalsky
    +8
    27 January 2014 14: 24
    The Nazi Tyagnibok openly declared from the platform of the Maidan the day before yesterday that they do not need elections, BECAUSE THEY CAN’T WIN THEM. That is, realizing that there was no support, they simply decided to organize a coup. Yes, it can be argued that Tyagnibok meant the falsifications that Yanukovych could arrange, but in reality this is already obvious - normal people will never allow radicals to come to power and Yanukovych will not need to falsify anything.
  53. Samson911
    0
    27 January 2014 14: 38
    It is already clear that real power in Ukraine is in the hands of nationalists, and not Yanukovych, who in this situation can hardly be called the president of the country. Slobber!!!. The only thing he and his government can do is to exhort the rioters and try to come to an agreement with them. If there are no tough measures, then alas... Only the collapse of the country.
  54. Drosselmeyer
    +2
    27 January 2014 14: 42
    “Perhaps someone must be a bloody dog. I am not afraid of responsibility" Gustav Noske.
    But we don’t have such a person. It's a pity.
  55. Andryushamronyuk
    0
    27 January 2014 14: 53
    The author lags behind events, Tyagnibok is out of business, he turned out to be a coward and a redneck. Yatsenyuk is generally an ally of Yanukovych and stabs him in the back, while Klitschko is a boxer and says incomprehensible things. The situation is increasingly being controlled by field commanders, 20-30 year old guys, as they once were in Chechnya, and very soon these Tyagniboks of yours and two others will go to the trash bin of history
  56. zmey_gadukin
    +1
    27 January 2014 14: 55
    70% of the Ukrainian population does not support Yanukovych (if not more)
    70% of the Ukrainian population does not support extremism and violent scenarios
    The situation is deadlocked
    1. +5
      27 January 2014 15: 17
      Quote: zmey_gadukin
      70% of the Ukrainian population does not support Yanukovych (if not more)
      70% of the Ukrainian population does not support extremism and violent scenarios
      The situation is deadlocked

      There is no need to simplify and focus on the figure of the president and his personal qualities.
      First, we need to restore order in the country, the state.
      There are legitimate ways to re-elect the president, there is the Verkhovna Rada and other civil institutions.
      In the meantime, under excuse of a bad president we see an attempt to split (or even destroy) state, statehood.
      Forceful, violent methods of changing the leadership of a country are called putsch, rebellion. And they lead to chaos, unrest, violence against the citizens of the country, lawlessness....
      1. +3
        27 January 2014 17: 52
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        There are legitimate ways to re-elect the president, there is the Verkhovna Rada and other civil institutions.

        Well, yes, there is, and not in the volume of laws, but in a thin book - the Constitution, but apparently the problem is that puppies have forgotten how to read and analyze, instead of collecting 1 votes to hold a referendum, they would rather engage in outright criminality.
        1. +3
          27 January 2014 19: 10
          Quote: PSih2097
          they would rather engage in outright criminality.

          Each a criminal act must be prosecuted by the state.
        2. 0
          27 January 2014 20: 06
          In the fall, the communists collected 3 (three) million signatures for a referendum on European integration, signed it himself, so what. Yanukovych gave a shit about the people. When you talk about laws and the Constitution, we only have it on paper. The common man is simply powerless against these monsters in power. The courts are a joke. Even if you win the case, no one will take this into account. And you are the Constitution, Yanukovych will not be able to utter such a word.
          1. +2
            27 January 2014 20: 30
            Quote: Motors1991
            And you are the Constitution, Yanukovych will not be able to utter such a word.

            So presidential re-election in a year... Or you should go to Europe urgently necessary...? You will decide.
            1. 0
              27 January 2014 20: 52
              You just don’t understand, the elections will be without choice. Yanukovych himself will not leave, unless he dies or is killed, the robbery is total. Russia made a discount on gas, and so the Dnepropetrovsk regional gas company buys natural gas from a Cyprus company at a price of 568 dollars per 1000 cubic meters. That is, your cheap gas does not reach us, it turns out that you are financing Yanukovych, and we will pay the bills. By the way, about Europe, read carefully, I signed up for the referendum, which Yanukovych scuttled, because the majority would have voted for the CU, but he it is not necessary.
              1. +3
                27 January 2014 20: 59
                Quote: Motors1991
                That is, your cheap gas does not reach us, it turns out that you finance Yanukovych, and we will pay the bills.

                WHERE will you look for an HONEST president? Is it possible to receive a parcel post “from abroad”, as the Balts do?
                I won’t lecture you... But I’m sure of one thing - the current situation in Ukraine does not give you a chance to reduce housing and communal services tariffs. And the Western Ukrainian fascists, striving for power, are not concerned about gas and electricity prices.
                1. +2
                  27 January 2014 21: 07
                  And Western Ukrainian fascists, striving for power, are not concerned about gas and electricity prices.[/quote]
                  All their progress will rest on the demolition and replacement of monuments. Renaming streets, etc. etc. That is, the African scenario, when the signs “for whites only” are changed to “blacks only.” And after that you can jump joyfully.
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  57. timurso
    0
    27 January 2014 15: 10
    Quote: sledgehammer102

    As for Moscow, she lives at the expense of the whole of Russia.


    Moscow is the largest industrial center of Russia. Even my native St. Petersburg lags significantly behind Moscow in industrial production, not to mention other regions of Russia.
  58. 0
    27 January 2014 15: 10
    Well, what can I say? Two-faced Janus.
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    1. 0
      27 January 2014 15: 42
      Morning, 27.01. — A rally was held in Simfa in support of the authorities. OK. 200 people with slogans: “No to Bandera”, “No to fascism”.
      1. 0
        27 January 2014 15: 42
        Prosecutor of the Odessa region Vyacheslav Trunov called on residents of the region to refrain from provocations and promised punishment according to the law for the rebels
        1. 0
          27 January 2014 15: 43
          Today, 27.01. People from Crimea are planning to go to Kyiv by train to support anti-Maidan rallies
          1. +2
            27 January 2014 15: 45
            In Simferopol and Sevastopol, people organize into squads and patrol the cities. In the event of the seizure of administrative buildings, they intend to help the police.
            1. +3
              27 January 2014 15: 50
              The governor of the Donetsk region is confident that radicals in Donbass will be given a worthy rebuff
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  61. ork
    ork
    +1
    27 January 2014 15: 55
    Quote: Andryushamronyuk
    The author lags behind events, Tyagnibok is out of business, he turned out to be a coward and a redneck. Yatsenyuk is generally an ally of Yanukovych and stabs him in the back, while Klitschko is a boxer and says incomprehensible things. The situation is increasingly being controlled by field commanders, 20-30 year old guys, as they once were in Chechnya, and very soon these Tyagniboks of yours and two others will go to the trash bin of history

    I suggest Andryusha Shmaronyuk repeat all this on the street. Grushevsky. But not behind Berkut, but where there are more flags with three fingers.
    And if, in your opinion, “like once in Chechnya,” then the AUTHORITY is obliged to react according to the scenario of a counter-terrorist operation.
  62. +3
    27 January 2014 15: 58
    Leak on the SBU network about the organization of Maidan and the Right Sector
    http://www.argumentum.info/post/74527556696
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    We, officers of Ukraine, to prevent a split in Ukraine, publish the following materials to understand the operational situation and preserve the territorial integrity of Ukraine!
    The history of the “Right Sector”
    First we introduce you to the leaders of the fascist structure:
    Tarasenko A.I. nicknamed "Pilipas", Burak P.P. nicknamed "Father Peter", Stempitsky A.L. nicknamed "The Flyer"
    The informal movement "Right Sector" includes the following organizations: VO "Trizub" named after. S. Bandera (leaders - Tarasenko A.I., Yarosh D.A., Stempitsky A.L.), "White Hammer" (commander Vakhniy A.V.); detachments "Poltava" and "Morozno" (commander O.S. Shumkov)
    History of occurrence
    The organization "Right Sector" arose against the backdrop of an internal conflict between the Social National Assembly and the radical VO "Trizub" named after. S. Bendery (no comments needed). These organizations, through a number of “grant-eating” structures, receive funds from various Western “pro-Ukrainian organizations” (they were created by the intelligence services of NATO countries back in Soviet times, as an element of political struggle and support for national movements in the union republics), such as various unions of veterans and fighters OUN-UPA, funds of unknown Ukrainian patriots, writers and activists who “sincerely believed” in obtaining the independence of Ukraine, but after receiving it they “forgot” to return to their homeland and continue to exist today.
    For reference: a pro-fascist organization whose ranks include supporters of the ideas of fascism and the construction on the territory of Ukraine of an analogue of Germany of 1933-1945. More detailed information about the activities of this group can be freely obtained on the Internet (https://secure.flickr.com/photos/115543089 @ N08/sets/72157640148753993 / - editor's note)
  63. +3
    27 January 2014 15: 59
    Extension
    focal point
    It was thanks to the instructions of these foreign charitable organizations that from the beginning of the Euromaidan, the Nazis began to create a closed coordination center (analysts developing a strategy for the action of militant groups and carrying out Internet monitoring and creating provocative blogs on closed pages of nationalists and Nazis on the world wide web). This center gave instructions for the murders on the street. Grushevsky with the aim of increasing the escalation of the conflict and “exciting” the crowd against the police. By a strange coincidence, this center, along with specific equipment, is secretly located at the address: Kiev, st. Mazepa 6a, it is interesting that the above-mentioned “grant-eating organizations” are also located at the indicated address (this information is available on the Internet). Also worthy of immediate attention is the fact that between the Embassy of the Republic of Latvia and the coordination center there is a constant movement of persons, and video surveillance and counter-surveillance are carried out on the street (in order to detect visual surveillance by law enforcement officers).
  64. +3
    27 January 2014 16: 00
    Extension
    funding
    Since the beginning of the Euromaidan, each leader of an active resistance group was promised a monetary reward (for each active fighter, 200 US dollars per day per group member and an additional 500 dollars if the group is more than 10 people, coordinators - from 2000 US dollars, for day of mass riots, provided that the controlled group carries out direct attack actions on law enforcement officers and government officials).
    It was established that funds arrived at the US Embassy in Kyiv (through the diplomatic channel) to the central offices of the VO "Svoboda" and VO "Batkivshchyna" (about 20 million dollars per week). In turn, these funds were distributed in support of Euromaidan (the functioning of the life support system, bribes and bribery of individual officials and law enforcement officers, payments to the media, campaigning) and for daily payments to active fighters, the leaders received funds non-cash to personal accounts. At the same time, it was established that the leaders of these right-wing radical structures, upon their request, were guaranteed assistance in emergency evacuation from the territory of Ukraine and the provision of housing and funds in any EU country of their choice (a striking example is the leader of the political group of provocateurs of the so-called “AutoMaidan” - Koba, who, like a rat, fled abroad, thereby proving that Ukraine is not important to him, but only mercantile interests).
  65. +3
    27 January 2014 16: 04
    extension
    ranks
    The White Hammer squad is the elite of pogroms! It consists of permanent participants - “militants”, united by the ideas of neo-Nazism and hatred of “kikes”, “blacks” and “garbage”. Members of the group are known among the environment as the most aggressive and inadequate fighters who are ready to carry out any actions against any categories of persons (the vast majority of the group are former convicts of serious crimes and a small number of foreigners prosecuted in their countries for such crimes).
    It was this group that “didn’t like” the fact that representatives of the Jewish communities of Ukraine officially spoke at Euromaidan and rabbis performed prayers. As a result, despite the instructions of the Euromaidan leaders, they carried out a number of attacks on members of the Jewish community on the territory of the so-called synagogue in Podol, and only after beating the leader of the Crimea group (they knocked out teeth and carried out “explanatory work” on the topic of subordination) and ordinary fighters (took place on the 5th floor of the house of trade unions with the participation of 40 fighters of the All-Union Union “Svoboda”), they were forced to temporarily (until the victory of the revolution) stop persecuting members of Jewish communities.
    At the same time, these individuals received firearms (complete with instructors (about 200 people) from the US Embassy) to kill accomplices who began to condemn the throwing of stones and Molotov cocktails at Berkut employees on the street. Grushevsky, to escalate tension and shift the blame onto the police officers, so the first victim was precisely an ethnic Armenian, whose presence on the barricades, from the point of view of the Molotovites, contradicts the idea of ​​racial superiority of the dominant nation.
    The “Poltava” and “Morozko” detachments consist and are led for the most part by activists of the radical VO “Trizub” named after. S. Bendery. In addition to the activists of the latter, the detachments include “fighters” of the “Common Cause” movement and the NSP “Direct Action” and citizens who share nationalist views, they are called “Free Nationalists”. The composition of these two detachments and their commanders change frequently. The credo of the existence of these groups lies in the phrase “wolf’s right - whoever is stronger is right.”
  66. +4
    27 January 2014 16: 11
    extension
    Prohibited for displaying video materials in paid media
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK8LJ4lDja0&feature=youtu.be
    These guys are military - they follow orders, and unlike the overwhelming number of pseudo-patriots (who, despite their own “patriotism”, have never served a day in the Armed Forces of Ukraine) really serve their country and honestly fulfill their duty in accordance with the concept of military honor. And they are our children and grandchildren of those who defeated fascism on this land.

    We appeal to the so-called “democratic” TV channels, in the near future we will cover all money transfers from “foreign” partners to your addresses and the agreement reached with you. Specifically, without comments (for an objective assessment of the people of Ukraine), we will post the video that you do not notice in your journalistic investigations and reports and we will clearly explain the direction of your actions.

    Nazi intentions
    We have now received information that the coordination center plans to lustrate the entire intelligentsia: writers, cultural figures, scientists, doctors, law enforcement officers who supported the current government, carried out their functional and official duties, or simply condemned the actions of this gang of Nazis. To do this, they ordered to collect information about the location of the families of people who are actively on the side of the current government or performing their professional duties, with the aim of destroying them and distracting members of these families from fulfilling their duties and intimidating other dissenters.
    1. +4
      27 January 2014 19: 31
      Quote: Vasya
      We have now received information that the coordination center plans to lustrate the entire intelligentsia: writers, cultural figures, scientists, doctors, law enforcement officers who supported the current government, carried out their functional and official duties, or simply condemned the actions of this gang of Nazis. To do this, they ordered to collect information about the location of the families of people who are actively on the side of the current government or performing their professional duties, with the aim of destroying them and distracting members of these families from fulfilling their duties and intimidating other dissenters.

      Thank you, VASYA!
      In what is being prepared ethnic cleansing from wrong Ukrainians, I posted yesterday (or the day before yesterday?).
      It is a REBELLION!
      This is an attempt (still an attempt!) of an anti-coup.
      If everything you stated above is true, then the army must protect the country and its citizens!
  67. Obie
    +1
    27 January 2014 16: 12
    Comrades, I am from Odessa and consider myself Russian, since I speak Russian and my great-grandfathers defended our common Rus'. The whole problem here in Ukraine is that not only the Ukrainian-speaking population from the western regions, but also Russian speakers, for example my friends from Odessa, go to the Maidan. And this happens not because of commitment to the West (the antipathy towards the bourgeoisie is simply colossal), but because Yanukovych has pushed everyone and everything to the extreme - he is a bandit in lawlessness, who “presses” even his own, without morals and concepts. In view of this, people on both sides of the barricades (pro-Western nationalists and Russians) first of all want to remove Yanukovych and his family. Another thing is what to do next? After all, further, the views of Russians living in Ukraine and Westerners are diametrically opposed - I personally do not sympathize with a single “leader” of today’s opposition. And what to do next? Who will lead the country? As usual, there is no choice. As they say - everything! I wanted to hear your general opinion??
    1. wanderer_032
      +3
      27 January 2014 16: 44
      Now everything depends on the people in the regions; if they unite against extremist elements, they will be able to resist the collapse of Ukraine as a country as a whole.
      This is already happening in many regions. Many citizens do not want the country to be ruled by Nazis.
      Perhaps from the regional leaders, those strong and strong-willed people who will now lead people in the regions, worthy candidates for the presidency will emerge.
      And there will be someone to choose from.
      Something like this. (IMHO)
    2. +2
      27 January 2014 16: 46
      2015 elections, vote for the Communist Party of Ukraine or the Party of Socialists of Ukraine, which is not an option, but if the Westerners come it will be very bad! We now need to find about a Russian leader who will be supported by the South-East, perhaps Oleg Tsarev, I don’t know...
    3. wanderer_032
      +2
      27 January 2014 17: 30
      It is clear that Ukraine needs a president who is a creator by conviction and is focused on the development of the country.
      Of course, soon many politicians will begin to play on this topic, trying to sit in the presidential chair, but do not let yourself be deceived.
      Trust, but check and do not vote according to the principle, and whoever will be will be.
      It costs too much. You already have experience.
  68. +3
    27 January 2014 16: 14
    Extension
    Appeal to military officers, all who served and their children
    We officers do not owe foreign bills, the vast majority have not traveled abroad and do not have estates there, we are not afraid of sanctions from any country in the world, we are for a single indivisible Ukraine and against interference in the internal affairs of our country by the intelligence services of Russia, the United States and the European Union.
    At the same time, we appeal to all categories of law enforcement officers; in case of family problems, you can visit the residence address of these Nazis in order to provide an adequate response. In connection with the above, we provide complete identification data of all persons who took part in mass riots and, hiding their faces behind masks, are confident in their impunity. Ukrainian officers remember the victory of our people over fascism.

    Separately, to the employees of Berkut, Verkhovna Rada and employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs - your courage and endurance during the attacks of insolent fascists deserves special respect, we are next to you, working on our secret barricades and we hope that our work will help you hold out until order is restored in Ukraine .
    Union of Law Enforcement and Special Forces Officers of Ukraine.
    Original source: http://pastebin.com/GKuVLiXf

    THERE IS FAME for anti-heroes - THERE IS NO FAME, these scum are ready to sell out to a FOREIGN STATE and kiss their ass. We look at THEIR FACES AND remember (by the way, the next publication is expected SOON).
    https://anonfiles.com/file/ea796c9e9...1231ce85348012
    video message from MILITARY SERVICEMEN
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK8LJ...ature=youtu.be
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK8LJ4lDja0&feature=youtu.be
  69. +2
    27 January 2014 16: 17
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-3GwiAwTuQ

    On November 27, a rally was held on Nakhimov Square in Sevastopol for joining the Customs Union of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan. The rally was organized by the Russian Bloc party together with the Communist Party of Ukraine. Other political forces and public organizations also joined the protesters.
    1. +3
      27 January 2014 16: 21
      According to our information in Chernigov, local residents resisted the gangs trying to seize the administration building. As a result, the activists had their car tires pierced and the bats brought by the militants burned. In conditions when the government is paralyzed in action, the only real way to stop the plague is to unite citizens into committees to counter the brown plague trying to seize power
  70. +3
    27 January 2014 16: 18

    not a bad choice of song
  71. +1
    27 January 2014 16: 25
    Quote: Canep
    Either Yanukovych will go to a military solution to the Maidan problem, or Ukraine will fall into two (at least) parts.


    About 100 of these “Decembrists” should have been killed a long time ago; others would most likely have given it some thought. IMHO.
    1. Obie
      0
      28 January 2014 00: 45
      And who will kill Yanukovych then?? After all, he goes to the same place as the neo-fascists
  72. +3
    27 January 2014 16: 25
    Quote: Meriamon
    I just want to say with a quote - “Well, if you’re so smart, then why don’t you march in formation?” I understand all 3 points even without your reminder. But for 10 years now the same words have been used - Banderaites, Nazis, etc. Primitive. Reluctance to see the truth. You don’t want to see that the problem is not in Europe, but simply in the mess in the country, which is visible to most, just like the culprits of this mess. If you want to sit and pretend that everything is ok, that’s no problem.

    On the "Scoop" point, thinking is not moving, especially when you consider the number of those who voted for the CPU in the East. "It was great in the scoop" - and this is where the thought ends ...


    Because nothing has changed for 10 years, the same Benderaites, Nazis and fascists. HOW ELSE CALL SOMETHING ELSE? It’s like McCain is frozen in the Cold War phase, the USSR has been gone for a long time, and he keeps snatching out glitches and snatching them out.
    1. Meriamon
      -1
      27 January 2014 18: 24
      I will repeat - The reason is that for ALL 10 years the rest have been sitting and waiting for a miracle. They are waiting for the economy to improve on its own, for the bandits to stop stealing people’s goods. That plants and factories will be built. But we are in the real world. And Yanyk will not sell his golden pot because he doesn’t care about the people, whether in the South, in the East, or in the West.

      And as soon as some kind of resistance appears (again, it’s not a fact that this is the best and everyone agrees with it) - immediately away we go = Banderaites, Nazis, etc.
      People don't need geographers. write down the sign in one word.

      DOGS - McCain infuriates me myself.
      1. Jogan-xnumx
        0
        27 January 2014 20: 04
        Quote: Meriamon
        People don't need geographers. write down the sign in one word.

        Also, you know, you shouldn’t interfere with flies and cutlets...
  73. +2
    27 January 2014 16: 42
    Quote: Meriamon
    but here everyone is brainwashed, in their eyes there are only fascists and Nazis. Scoop in the brain, alas, incurable

    So get out of here...to your people, why are you blowing bubbles here?
    1. Meriamon
      -1
      27 January 2014 18: 13
      Because there is an opinion, if you don’t like it, get out of here yourself. Are you not surprised that as soon as there is any movement - immediately the Nazis and Banderaites?

      Why are there no proposals, rallies in the East, South with real proposals for changes in government, politics, and economics? Or is everyone happy with everything? As far as I know, there are many very dissatisfied people - but they remain silent.

      I repeat - I wrote that not everyone in Kyiv is for Euromaidan! But you can’t compare everyone.
      1. +5
        27 January 2014 19: 37
        Quote: Meriamon
        Why are there no proposals, rallies in the East, South with real proposals for changes in government, politics, and economics?

        Only rabbits... reproduce FAST... laughing
        Banderlogov - to prison, first. Let the country live and work in peace.
        And choose the president, sooner or later.
        "...If only my native country lived..."
  74. +4
    27 January 2014 16: 49
    Self-defense units are being created in Odessa. People's defense teams, consisting of volunteers, intend to maintain order and law in the city.
  75. Leshka
    0
    27 January 2014 16: 50
    they have a complete and bleak woman there
  76. 0
    27 January 2014 16: 54
    Yes, we waited! I’m surprised why the eastern and northeastern (those closer to the Old Man’s borders) regions are silent. It is clear that in Crimea and the southeast, both the rulers and the people realize the tragedy of the current situation. Why is the Kremlin silent, or have they already agreed with the prospect of the appearance of NATO bases near borders, with a flight time of a minute, militant camps near Rostov, Bryansk, Belgorod? Stop throwing money down the drain! Drive the Westerners into the Carpathians if they want, there the Poles will remember everything for them, their memory is not as short as ours.
  77. smprofi
    +2
    27 January 2014 16: 56
    We are all under the influence of information, which, unfortunately, is now not complete and reliable, which makes the already tense situation in our country extremely dangerous.

    There are growing calls to bring weapons or even use them in the ongoing confrontations.

    Given the circumstances, we believe our first priority is the safety of our families, homes, property and neighbors. Fulfilling this task will prevent the development of a crisis in the future.

    We must adhere to the rule that is well known to every gun owner - as many of us leave the house, the same number must return. This is our responsibility. Now no one will do this except us.

    Keep your guns at home! This is our Ukraine.

    Remember that you are not alone and there are equally responsible people next to you. Connect with them and support each other. Do not fall for the hysterical calls of pseudo-politicians. Use and distribute only reliable and verified information.
    A reminder for gun owners in times of crisis

    1. Check the storage conditions of the weapon to prevent unauthorized persons from gaining access to it.

    2. Check the condition of the weapon and ammunition. Set aside expired or damaged cartridges.

    3. Get to know your neighbors. Let them know that you are a gun owner so that if the current situation escalates, they can contact you for help.

    4. In the event of an aggravation of the situation, ensure that the house has the necessary supply of food, water and essential medicines.

    © Meeting of weapons communities January 25, 2014 Kyiv.

    1. 0
      27 January 2014 17: 12
      Quote: smprofi
      Get to know your neighbors. Let them know that you are a gun owner so that if the current situation escalates, they can contact you for help.

      ...Or for weapons...
  78. 0
    27 January 2014 17: 06
    They write that Donetsk is standing. Trinity, although it turns out to be two because they threw the bull, tomorrow we must give a final answer. In my opinion, they spend a painfully long time conferring with the “customer”.
  79. +1
    27 January 2014 17: 10
    There is a new tragedy on the Maidan. On the morning of January 27, a 55-year-old resident of the Volyn region was found hanging from a rope inside the metal frame of a New Year tree, the portal kp.ua reports.
    “The call to 102 came at eleven in the morning,” Natalya Kalinovskaya, press officer for the Shevchenkovsky district of Kyiv, told Komsomolskaya Pravda in Ukraine. – The identity of the deceased has been established. According to preliminary findings, there are no visible signs of violence on the body.
    As of half past one on January 27, an investigative and operational group was still working at the scene.
    The body was first discovered by passers-by who called the police.
    The body was first discovered by passers-by who called the police.
    Photo: social networks (vk.com/kadebeing)

    BTW
    Four activists were hospitalized from Maidan with mental disorders, seizures and pneumonia.
    Doctors explain the record low number of calls in recent days by fear of arrests.
    According to the press service of the Department of Health Protection of the Kyiv City State Administration, over the past 24 hours six participants in protests in the center of the capital needed medical assistance. Four were hospitalized.
    “The reasons for turning to the capital’s doctors: mental disorders, bilateral pneumonia, convulsions and alcohol withdrawal, complicated by convulsions,” the Department of Health told KP
  80. +2
    27 January 2014 17: 16
    Quote: TiGRoO
    By the way, in Dnepropetrovsk the police and our guys in the amount of about 1000 fought almost wall to wall with visiting Natsiks, there were a lot of victims and there the police use all means, so the west will not pass !!!

    Guys, just hang in there. May God give you strength, endurance and perseverance to endure! Know that you are fighting for a just cause: For your Motherland, For your home, For your families!
  81. -6
    27 January 2014 17: 19
    Quote: polkovnik manuch
    Yes, we waited! I’m surprised why the eastern and northeastern (those closer to the Old Man’s borders) regions are silent. It is clear that in Crimea and the southeast, both the rulers and the people realize the tragedy of the current situation. Why is the Kremlin silent, or have they already agreed with the prospect of the appearance of NATO bases near borders, with a flight time of a minute, militant camps near Rostov, Bryansk, Belgorod? Stop throwing money down the drain! Drive the Westerners into the Carpathians if they want, there the Poles will remember everything for them, their memory is not as short as ours.

    Like you, everything is simple in Russia. There are Benderites and the right ones.
    How long can you repeat it?
    IN POWER, THERE ARE BREACHER BANDITS. Who, after the elections, went completely crazy. And voluntarily, they will never give up their power. Neither now, nor in 2015. The people have reached the boiling point. It exploded.
    1. +3
      27 January 2014 17: 40
      And this gives the right to “destroy” anything and everything? Take a closer look at who you have become? Do you think this is what our grandfathers wanted, staining every piece of land with blood, wrested from the fascists with such difficulty, so that the fascists would eventually come to power?
    2. +8
      27 January 2014 17: 47
      Listen jekasimf , my friend, explain one fact to me.

      If the protest is against Yanukovych, then why:

      1. In 10 regions, the Communist Party of Ukraine and the Party of Regions were banned without a court decision. Suppression of dissent? Are you fascists?

      2. If the protest is against Yanukovych, then why under the EU flag and to the music: “Whoever doesn’t jump is a Muscovite”?

      3. Why do nationalists act as battering rams?

      I'm from Berdyansk myself, Zap. region Yanukovych disgusts me TERRIBLY. But looking at the Nazis in Kyiv, I want to give a cry:

      TODAY WE WILL HANG BANDERA, AND TOMORROW YANUKOVYCH!

      You have violated the unspoken social contract. Since 1991, we have given tacit consent to your SS and UPA parades in Lvoy in the western regions, why the f... did you do this a year ago:



      You bitch crossed the Dnieper, and you will wash yourself with blood if you don’t change your mind!!!
      1. +1
        27 January 2014 19: 17
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        You have violated the unspoken social contract. Since 1991, we have given tacit consent to your SS and UPA parades in Lvoy in the western regions, why the f... did you do this a year ago:

        QUESTION Why did they give, as YOU say, such permission? They themselves grew a snake on their chest, and it bit you! They should have crushed it even then, in the embryo! Or did they not grow it for themselves?!
    3. +1
      27 January 2014 19: 31
      Quote: jekasimf
      How long can you repeat it?
      IN GOVERNMENT, BANDITS-TREASURES

      As I understand it, your bandits have a classification, then which bandits will you bring to power?
  82. +2
    27 January 2014 17: 45
    Today the Anti-Maidan will gather in Poltava for the first time. There will be no party symbols or dangerous objects on it. Participants will tie St. George ribbons.
    1. +1
      27 January 2014 17: 51
      In Kremenchug, police detained 5 provocateurs who called on people to storm the city executive committee
      1. +2
        27 January 2014 17: 53
        In Lugansk, along with the police, Cossacks and social activists will monitor law and order.
  83. 0
    27 January 2014 17: 45
    Webcam in real time
    http://3mv.ru/publ/besporjadki_na_ukraine_khronika_sobytij_27_janvarja/1-1-0-224
    53
  84. +2
    27 January 2014 17: 49
    JANUARY 27

    PROVOCATIONS ARE EXPECTED IN DONETSK

    Anxious in the morning. A warning about the danger appeared on the city hall website:

    - According to available information, on January 27, provocations from visiting “right sector” activists are possible in Donetsk. 8 buses with activists are heading to the city. There are enough police forces in Donetsk to ensure public order. The Donetsk City Council appeals to citizens with a convincing request not to participate in mass events and not to succumb to provocations.

    At the same time, there is not a word on the city hall’s website that 15 buses with miners arrived at the Regional State Administration.

    - There are 15 buses with miners parked near the Regional State Administration. About two thousand people are sitting on buses and do not want to communicate with journalists, a Komsomolskaya Pravda in Ukraine correspondent reported.

    Why these people came and where they came from is being clarified.

    There are also two ambulances on duty at the Regional State Administration, Olga Batalshchikova, deputy head physician of the Donetsk Emergency Medical Service, told Komsomolskaya Pravda in Ukraine.



    Law and order is maintained by about 30 police officers and 20 members of the special unit "Griffin". This is very little, as for possible provocations.

    It should be noted that soldiers of the special unit "Griffin" are traditionally engaged in protecting courts and defendants and are rarely used for street safety.

    Komsomolskaya Pravda in Ukraine.

    PS:At the Donbass mines, the 4th shift (night shift) was canceled that day to free up workers to protect the region...
    It is known for sure that the miners intend to take turns keeping watch.
    At coal enterprises, voluntary vigilantes recruited from among the mine workers, miners and other mine personnel are on duty.

    Otherwise, the enterprises operate as usual.
    Although there is some concern about the fate of the country...
  85. +1
    27 January 2014 18: 16
    I don’t even know, it feels like some kind of invisible front line runs along the country’s villages and cities. Yanyk, damn him, brought the people to a critical mass. He should be judged unequivocally for withdrawing from his direct official duties.
  86. -1
    27 January 2014 18: 31
    While heroes are being glorified at Grushevsky, an evening in memory of the victims of the Holocaust is being held in the Kiev House of Actors.
  87. klim44
    -8
    27 January 2014 18: 31
    These, if I may say so, “analytical articles” harm the cause more than the entire American press. Why call residents of the western regions fascists? (Bandera, by the way, spent half the war in a concentration camp). The author is unaware that the majority of Ukrainians do not want to act as “lesser brothers” for us Russians (I think if they read your comments on such articles, they will resist the customs union even more). Why stigmatize the policies of the West, if the policy of our country is even simpler - we will buy everyone, and if they don’t sell, we will turn off the gas and hot water.
  88. 0
    27 January 2014 18: 36
    Mikhail Dobkin decided to attract the Cossacks to Yanukovych’s side. Will negotiate.
  89. +1
    27 January 2014 18: 53
    I don't know about you, but it made me smile smile
  90. +5
    27 January 2014 18: 54
    I beg you, colleagues, to look at this link - http://ivakin-alexey.livejournal.com/614090.html

    The article “Shiry mo.skal - kill a fascist with a dance!”, where a guy from Odessa talks about how Odessa residents saw off the Lvov titushki back home with dances... Photos, videos...

    I'm freaking out, wow - well, this is Odessa, there's no joke there... request

    Loved it in the comments there

    podgish
    Jan 26, 2014 19:38 (UTC)
    Well, why didn’t you run them through the liver?

    ivakin_alexey
    Jan 26, 2014 19:39 (UTC)
    They don't know how to hit here. Here they immediately drown in the sea.



    Ugagaga... lol
  91. +2
    27 January 2014 19: 06
    Quote: TiGRoO
    In Simferopol and Sevastopol, people organize into squads and patrol the cities. In the event of the seizure of administrative buildings, they intend to help the police.
    Where does this information come from? Can I have a link or something similar?
    1. +1
      27 January 2014 22: 31
      Komsomolskaya Pravda + something else comes across on the net, here is a link to the KP chronicle of events http://www.kp.ru/daily/26185.4/3073882/

      here is another chronicle, but there are often messages from the Maidan... http://www.ridus.ru/news/153475
  92. +2
    27 January 2014 19: 15
    Quote: TiGRoO
    By the way, in Dnepropetrovsk the police and our guys in the amount of about 1000 fought almost wall to wall with visiting Natsiks, there were a lot of victims and there the police use all means, so the west will not pass !!!

    This is it?
    1. +3
      27 January 2014 22: 29
      Yes, there is little here, of course, according to reports they fought hard, bloody, the police controlled the guys so that there would be order, otherwise they did not act coordinated at first.
    2. DMB-78
      +3
      28 January 2014 10: 44
      and these are Bandera’s heroes????? and glory to them???? belay glory to the patriots of Dnepropetrovsk and Ukraine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! good
  93. TAHKIST
    +5
    27 January 2014 19: 25
    I remember in 90 I saw an article in Komsomolskaya Pravda, a translation of Brzezhinsky’s article and there was a map there and on it Western Ukraine was a separate state and think what you want, geopolitics play with the destinies of peoples, divide and conquer.

    Quote: Jurkovs
    And I still consider the inclusion of Western Ukraine in the USSR as a mistake of Stalin. A painful organ struck the whole body with gangrene.

    Stalin was not mistaken, he was the Collector of Russian lands, but the fact that the Austrians, Magyars and Germans drove into the heads of the Russians that they are not Russians but Ukrainians does not disappear from their heads.
    1. +2
      27 January 2014 19: 47
      Moreover, Russia did not Russify anyone, unlike other countries. The USA slaughtered the indigenous population, Germany immediately forbade their wives to write or speak the national language...
  94. +3
    27 January 2014 19: 28
    And here's another one. Looks like the Nazis have arrived. For every force there is its own strength:
  95. +4
    27 January 2014 19: 36
    Of course, it’s shitty to fight with your own people... although no one invited them to visit, they themselves came and got a turnip:
    1. wanderer_032
      +1
      28 January 2014 11: 49
      Well, the boys from Dnepropetrovsk distinguished themselves.
      This is a lesson for those who muddy the waters. This trick with Ukraine won’t work, don’t try.
      This is not Iraq, not Egypt, not Libya or Syria.
  96. denort
    +4
    27 January 2014 19: 41
    There will be no division of Ukraine. This is not beneficial for Ukraine, Russia, or the European Union. And the people in Western Ukraine are normal, part of our people. a handful of militants have no right to claim public opinion in their own name. ordinary people need peace, stability, pensions and salaries, children and grandchildren.

    And if anyone is dissatisfied with the government, let them think about where it came from? Did it fall from the moon or something? every deputy or oligarch were once ordinary poor people, but at some stage they decided to play a dishonest game, only with their own benefit, becoming criminals. Well, this is not a problem of power as such, but a problem of human morality, of each of us, and this problem is relevant all over the world. and it is impossible to come up with an ideal system of justice - there will definitely be at least one for whom something is not enough, something does not suit him, and he will bypass the rules of this ideal system - for every protection there is always a hacking option.
  97. +4
    27 January 2014 19: 43
    Zaporozhye:
  98. +3
    27 January 2014 20: 17
    The West set out to split Ukraine by demolishing the “Yanukovych regime” in order to tear off, at a minimum, “its” Western piece, since it was not possible to associate with the Euro - to swallow Ukraine whole.

    Let's summarize: through precise and competent steps, the Ukrainian government has driven the “opposition” into such a situation that any of their actions only worsens their situation. The coup failed and cannot succeed. This is what the leaders do not tell the ordinary Maidan activists. And now there is a bargaining not for the victory of the “opposition”, but for an acceptable form of their defeat.
    And the West understands perfectly well that a forceful seizure of power in several regions or in Kyiv will lead to a split in the country and to a potential war, which it does not need.
    With the collapse of Ukraine, the West will receive “Westerners” and zero industry, and Russia will receive zero Westerners and all Ukrainian industry.
    Russia also does not need the disintegration of Ukraine, since this is a war directly on our borders, in the place where our fleet is based, where our brothers and sisters live, and this could potentially be a colossal problem for us.
    This means that Western support for the “oppositionists” is decreasing every day, and Russia’s support (with advice and credit) for Yanukovych will not decrease. These are the things.
    All that remains is to once again express my great respect to the guys from Berkut - it is their endurance, courage and professionalism that have become the main resource of the current “chess game”.
    I would like to note that today's events are an echo of the collapse of the United Country in 1991. The policy of creating national elites, separate “appanage principalities”, fragmentation, beautifully called “independence” - everything was a consequence of the betrayal of their people by Gorbachev and his accomplices. And the holes that arise are, as usual, plugged with the bodies of soldiers and officers. The Berkut soldier or soldier of the internal troops, wounded today in Kyiv, is a victim of the civil war, the civil strife that was imposed on our people in 1991. Like the soldiers of the Russian army who died in Tskhinvali in 2008, like numerous victims of many interethnic conflicts in the space of the once United country.
    I would like to hope that these sacrifices will not be in vain.
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  100. +4
    27 January 2014 20: 28
    If you rephrase the phrase... it will turn out to be "Tell me who your leader is and I will tell you who you are!" We still need to look for such a degenerate as Klitschko... It’s a shame that he’s a fellow countryman. From Kazakhstan, after all. And Yanukovych is also a downer. There was no need to let it come to this. The front command had to be given immediately and in 2 hours there would be a clean area and all these Nazi husks would be sitting. And now the train has left. In general, it’s a pity for the people of Ukraine if corrupt hydrocephalus like Klitschko comes to power.