There is no army without the General Staff

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There is no army without the General Staff

25 January marks 251 the year since the creation of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Russia. On the eve of this date, the head of the General Staff, Army General Valery GERASIMOV, gave an exclusive interview to Viktor LITOVKIN, editor-in-chief of the Independent Military Review.

- Before the beginning of our conversation, Valery Vasilyevich, I can not fail to mention the holiday - the Day of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. This year, without exaggeration, our leading organ of military control, as defined by Marshal of the Soviet Union, Boris Shaposhnikov, “the brain of the army”, marks the 251 year.

- Yes. With the birth of the General Staff service in the Russian Empire, this essential element of the state’s military organization immediately began to play a noticeable and, over time, a crucial role in the life of the army. The General Staff officers have always been together with the troops in the days of defeats and victories, laying down and strengthening the traditions that allow the current generation of our officers to adequately perform all the tasks assigned to ensure the military security of our country.

- And what is the General Staff today? What are its main functions?

- The General Headquarters of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is the central military authority of the Russian Defense Ministry and the main operational authority of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. In accordance with the new Regulation on the General Staff, which was approved by the President of the Russian Federation in July 2013, the powers of the General Staff are not limited to the tasks facing the Armed Forces, but also cover issues of ensuring military security and defense of the state as a whole.

Today, along with the management of the daily activities of the Armed Forces, the daily resolution of military construction issues, the main functions of the General Staff also include: the organization of the defense planning of the Russian Federation; development of strategic operations plans; leadership of military intelligence agencies; organization of planning mobilization preparation and mobilization in the Russian Federation within the authority of the Ministry of Defense of Russia; coordination of the activities of other troops, military formations and bodies in the field of defense.

In addition, the General Staff organizes the development of proposals for the formulation and implementation of state defense policy and takes part in its implementation. As the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation said at an expanded meeting of the collegium of the Ministry of Defense, held in December 2013, to approach her creatively, always think about how to take the next step towards the improvement of our big military machine. Of great importance in the performance of this task are the headquarters at various levels, and above all the General Staff. These are not just people who consider pieces of paper, shift and sew in affairs, but above all the analytical center. Today it is more important than ever ... "

Obviously, there is no better answer to the question of what result the leadership of the country expects from us.

- And how are military experts selected for service in the General Staff, where they are trained? What qualities should they have?

- Being an officer of the General Staff is not only an honor for any officer of the Russian army, it is above all a difficult and responsible work.

For service in the General Staff are selected the most trained officers from the main headquarters of the types and headquarters of the armed forces, as well as the best representatives of the headquarters of the military districts. For senior military positions, officers and generals are selected who have achieved a high level of coherence between their command and control bodies and troops, as well as possessing the necessary individual qualities. The latter condition can be considered the main one.

Analytical thinking, broad outlook, inner need and habit to improve their professional level - these are just some of the features that a candidate should have for serving in the General Staff.

All officers in the process of selection are interviewed and checked for the level of professional training directly in the structural units of the General Staff. First of all, the ability of officers to be creative and non-standard approach to the solution of any task is evaluated. The flexibility of thinking on a wide range of issues of ensuring the military security of the state is appreciated. General Staff officer, by example stories Russia should have an idea about the place and role of the army in the state and society, about the role of Russia in the past, present and future world, owning issues of geopolitics, geoeconomics, globalization of society.

An effective tool for the qualitative recruitment of military posts in the General Staff is the federal and departmental personnel reserve of the Armed Forces. In 2013, at the meetings of the Central Attestation Commission of the Ministry of Defense, the method of considering candidates for military posts on an alternative basis was introduced - at least three candidates are presented for one vacant military position.

The main and basic institution for training officers of the General Staff is the Military Academy of the General Staff, which for over 180 years has been training military personnel for strategic management. It is the successor of the Imperial Military Academy, founded in 1832 on the initiative of Russian Emperor Nicholas I. December 8, the Academy celebrated its 2013 anniversary.

On the basis of the General Staff Academy, officers are trained for a two-year program of higher military education, as well as professional retraining and advanced training programs for continuing professional education. In specialized specialties and areas of activity, officers undergo training in military academies of types and types of troops of the Armed Forces.

Military thought does not stand still. Weapons are being improved, forms and methods of conducting military actions are changing. All this needs to be known and taken into account daily in the course of fulfilling tasks and making management decisions. The broad horizons of the General Staff officer should cover the sphere of political and economic relations both within the country and abroad. It is necessary to possess daily full information about everything that is happening in Russia and abroad in the field of military construction and development of the armed forces, military and government control, in the field of training and use of troops and forces.

But, of course, the training programs of military academies do not cover all the spectrum of the activities of the Armed Forces. Therefore, the training of any officer in the Armed Forces is a daily and continuous process. Generals and officers of the General Staff is no exception. In addition to all the above, the officer of the General Staff must be an unconditional patriot of Russia, a spiritual and moral and in all respects a healthy citizen of the Fatherland.

- A National Center for Defense State Management is being established. What functions will it perform, including with respect to the Armed Forces? What will be the role of the General Staff? What will change?

- At the suggestion of the Minister of Defense Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu, the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation decided to establish the National Defense Management Center of the Russian Federation within the structure of the Ministry of Defense. 20 January 2014, as you know, laid the first stone in the building of the Center on the Frunze Embankment.

The created National Center will cover all levels of the leadership of the Armed Forces, and will also allow the efforts of the ministries and departments involved in the implementation of the country's Defense Plan to be coordinated by 49. For the first time, a vertically integrated multi-level automated control system will be created in the Ministry of Defense of Russia and a single information and control space will be created, ensuring the combined actions of heterogeneous forces and means. In addition, the National Center will become the main management tool for mobilizing the country.

In implementing this project, only breakthrough technologies will be used, the most advanced software solutions. Equipping them will allow you to quickly display the situation from any region, as well as the area of ​​operations of troops (forces), including those located at considerable distances from the points of permanent deployment.

- A plan for the construction of the Armed Forces of our country has been published. Can it be made to it if necessary adjustments or is it firm?

- The construction of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is carried out by the Ministry of Defense in accordance with the Construction and Development Plan of the Armed Forces. The plan is developed for five years and approved by the President of the Russian Federation. If necessary, by decision of the President of the Russian Federation, measures for the construction and development of the Armed Forces may be specified.

The Plan for the construction and development of the Armed Forces reflects the issues of manning the types and types of troops that belong to them, arming military and special equipment, modernizing its existing designs and developing advanced ones, developing military infrastructure, and all types of support. In addition, for the implementation of the tasks set by the president, the synchronization of all activities, programs and plans for the construction of the Armed Forces, a detailed Action Plan of the Ministry of Defense for the period up to 2020 was developed.

It covers all the activities of the Armed Forces - from maintaining the combat readiness of the troops to increasing the attractiveness of military service. All events are monthly detailed in plans and schedules that are developed from the Deputy Minister of Defense to the compound and the military unit inclusive. Organized a rigid system of monitoring the implementation of the plan.

It consists of closed and open parts. The open part of the plan can be found on the official website of the Ministry of Defense. And changes and additions to it are made only by decision of the board of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. This allows the Ministry of Defense in close cooperation with other federal executive bodies to carry out a stable and purposeful work on the construction, development and use of the Armed Forces.

- I know that the General Staff is actively involved in international military cooperation. What are the challenges facing him?

- The General Staff takes an active part in the preparation and conduct of international military cooperation on a bilateral and multilateral basis. There are many tasks. The priority directions of international military cooperation for us are: the development of the military component of the CSTO; strengthening the military organization of the Union State with the Republic of Belarus; ensuring the electoral military presence of the Russian Federation in various regions of the Commonwealth and in the world to strengthen regional and global security; strengthening the security system in the Central Asian region in view of the withdrawal of the international security assistance force from it; preventing the emergence of new nuclear missile threats along the perimeter of Russian borders; continued military cooperation with the US and NATO on arms control, non-proliferation issues weapons mass destruction, ensuring regional and global security; implementation of decisions of the political leadership of the state to promote the Russian approaches in the field of missile defense, meeting the requirements of the Treaty on Strategic Offensive Arms; fulfillment of Russian commitments in the field of military-technical cooperation in the supply of weapons and military equipment from the presence of the Russian Ministry of Defense.

At present, international military cooperation is versatile, dynamic and focused on solving the tasks set by the leadership of the country before the Russian Defense Ministry. Since the issues of international military cooperation are directly related to the issues of ensuring the military security of the state, they are the subject of constant concern of the General Staff.

In conclusion, I would like to congratulate the staff of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on the holiday! To wish you good health, family happiness, patience, endurance and perseverance necessary to fulfill the tasks set by the leadership of the country and the Ministry of Defense.
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  1. +5
    25 January 2014 10: 10
    Shoigu has already tested such a center on the basis of the Ministry of Emergencies, but for the Moscow Region the National Center must be created with extreme caution, without haste, without Serdyukov reformers. If a mistake with the Ministry of Emergencies does not fatally affect the state’s activities, then everything will be much more tragic here. I would like to hope that real professionals will make decisions.
    1. +2
      26 January 2014 08: 18
      Recently I learned that the Main Intelligence Directorate has been renamed into the Main Directorate of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces. What is it for........
    2. +24
      26 January 2014 09: 12
      Do you remember how Pikul wrote about officers of the General Staff?
      -As about very worthy people, with encyclopedic knowledge in many industries, an elite layer of any society.
      Real patriots!
      For some reason, Pikul is abandoned, it even seems that it is somehow on purpose at once and everywhere, but in my opinion it is his books that are truly an example of patriotism, not only "USSR" or "Russian", but Russian.
      1. Heccrbq.3
        +20
        26 January 2014 09: 28
        "I have the honor" especially. This work needs to be taught in schools. Why they don't like him, Pikul, they call his books "for youngsters" I don't understand.
        1. 11111mail.ru
          +13
          26 January 2014 10: 07
          Quote: Heccrbq.3
          . Why they don't like him, Pikul, they call his books "for youngsters" I don't understand.

          Reread his novel "Unclean Power", especially those passages in which persons of a well-known nationality are mentioned, which did not have their own state until 1948. Here they are, from the "ghanaian intelligentsia and sharpened their teeth on Valentin Savvich. In the late 70s I read a magazine version of the novel, in the 90s I bought a book. I tried to find in it a quote about dentists and dental technicians of the 1916-1917 model ( they were not taken into the army.) I reread the same chapter, no, removed. And "Barbarossa" ("Square of the Fallen Fighters") is the exact opposite of his work, and was published, by the way, almost a year after the death of the author. apparently the editors have worked on the content - the deceased will not present anything in court.
          1. +6
            26 January 2014 14: 15
            But BГOdsky was included in the school curriculum.
            And on Pikul, if you remember, there was persecution from a certain point. He even lived on guard at the Baltic Fleet base.
            In general, of course, their dominance in education does its job.
          2. pawel57
            +2
            26 January 2014 14: 23
            I agree I have a copy and it’s said purely about them.
      2. -6
        26 January 2014 13: 04
        Quote: mirag2
        Do you remember how Pikul wrote about officers of the General Staff?

        Pikul wrote a work of fiction, and even about a scout. In many pseudo-historical places he did not write the truth, distorted some things. Either from not knowing some of the details, which is understandable, or for the sake of the plot, which is also permissible in a work of art. In life, the graduates of the academy of the general staff of the tsarist army did both stupidity and meanness, like all normal people. Therefore, Pikul was "abandoned" not because he wrote something dangerous for the modern regime, he just had few competitors in the USSR, he has already been read by everyone and repeatedly, and now every second person writes in the genre of a pseudo-historical action movie, there is something to read besides Pikul.
        This is all irrespective of the General Staff and its employees. They do the necessary and useful thing, success in their work, let them succeed.
        1. 11111mail.ru
          +2
          26 January 2014 14: 47
          Quote: chunga-changa
          In many pseudo-historical places he did not write the truth, he distorted some things.

          Are you encrypted in such a way that it is not clear what you said, do you yourself understand your thoughts?
          Quote: chunga-changa
          Therefore, Pikul was "abandoned" not because he wrote

          You already decide: because it was abandoned or not because ...
          I can just repeat for the slow-witted: VS Pikul was not pleasing to "broadcasters" and "arbiters of human destinies" because he saw the history of the Fatherland better than some of those mentioned by Mikhail Bulgakov "who were in MASSOLIT". In his works, the story LIVES, he saw in his characters primarily people, the creators of history.
          1. -2
            26 January 2014 15: 41
            You are obviously not used to reading anything except tweeter and sms. Therefore, the meaning of a slightly more complex sentence eludes you, and the difference between the words is therefore and therefore not clear to you. If you are so concerned about the fate of Pikul's "unwanted" works, buy a box of books, give them to friends who do not have them, let them read. What is the problem, or maybe Pikul is not being printed on instructions from the Kremlin and it is not possible to buy books?
            “... he took as a basis some fundamental work, as a rule, little-known to a wide range of readers, and built his story on its basis. It is noted that during all his many years of writing activity, Pikul has never worked in any archive. "If you personally think that patriotic education can be built on just about anything, including inventions, then you probably also have the works of a certain Suvorov by the name Rezun will do, he is also a notable master of LIVING history.
            If you simply cannot stand the criticism of your favorite writer, then this is already your own business. And there is no need to speculate. Pikul was one of the most popular and widely read writers in the USSR, he was often published in normal print runs, and they criticized him rightly, for in order to please the plot he often used fictions and already refuted rumors. “Pikul’s books continue to be in great demand and are published and republished in thousands of copies almost every year. According to the writer's widow A. Pikul, in 2008 their total circulation reached 500 million copies.” It somehow does not fit with the picture of a genius and patriot who is not recognized and persecuted by the authorities.
            1. Aristah
              +1
              26 January 2014 21: 39
              Quote: chunga-changa

              “... he took as a basis some fundamental work, as a rule, little-known to a wide circle of readers, and based on it built his own narrative. It is noted that throughout his many years of writing Pikul never worked in any archive ... According to the widow of the writer A. Pikul, in 2008 their total circulation reached 500 million copies. It somehow does not fit with the picture of a genius and patriot who is not recognized and persecuted by the authorities.

              Do not confuse flies and cutlets ;-) This is the favorite method of unscrupulous debaters :-( So - the points:
              1. This is not about someone being harassed and hushed up as a writer. Today, the circulation of books is determined by reader demand, and not by the ideological department of the CPSU Central Committee. And the conversation is about what it would be desirable to include in the school curriculum the statesman and patriot of Russia Pikul, and not a good poet, but cosmopolitan Brodsky. (I state the essence of the discussion without diplomatic curtsies, although I consider them VERY different)
              2. Regarding non-work in the archives - I believe that this is, to put it mildly, an exaggeration. How do you know this? ;-) But I remember the docfilm about him at the end of the last century, in which his wife told HOW Pikul worked. He in his office forced all the shelves with books, documents, manuscripts of the historical period about which he was going to write, and began in
              this period is "submerged". After some time, when he was saturated with this factography and emotional background, he began to write like an obsessive, forgetting about rest and food. And so - with each new book ... So he had his own archive at home
            2. Aristah
              +1
              26 January 2014 21: 39
              Quote: chunga-changa

              “... he took as a basis some fundamental work, as a rule, little-known to a wide circle of readers, and based on it built his own narrative. It is noted that throughout his many years of writing Pikul never worked in any archive ... According to the widow of the writer A. Pikul, in 2008 their total circulation reached 500 million copies. It somehow does not fit with the picture of a genius and patriot who is not recognized and persecuted by the authorities.

              Do not confuse flies and cutlets ;-) This is the favorite method of unscrupulous debaters :-( So - the points:
              1. This is not about someone being harassed and hushed up as a writer. Today, the circulation of books is determined by reader demand, and not by the ideological department of the CPSU Central Committee. And the conversation is about what it would be desirable to include in the school curriculum the statesman and patriot of Russia Pikul, and not a good poet, but cosmopolitan Brodsky. (I state the essence of the discussion without diplomatic curtsies, although I consider them VERY different)
              2. Regarding non-work in the archives - I believe that this is, to put it mildly, an exaggeration. How do you know this? ;-) But I remember the docfilm about him at the end of the last century, in which his wife told HOW Pikul worked. He in his office forced all the shelves with books, documents, manuscripts of the historical period about which he was going to write, and began in
              this period is "submerged". After some time, when he was saturated with this factography and emotional background, he began to write like an obsessive, forgetting about rest and food. And so - with each new book ... So he had his own archive at home
        2. +3
          26 January 2014 15: 20
          chunga-changa ... there is something to read besides Pikul ... what not the fact that IT is worth reading ...
          1. -2
            26 January 2014 18: 24
            Dumas, father and son. Walter Scott. Maurice Druon. Anne and Serge Golon. Senkevich. Hugo. A.N. Tolstoy. Remark Efremov (Thais of Athens). Akunin. J. Brown. Karateev. Cornwall. Julian Semenov. Novikov Surf. Stepanov. Sholokhov.
            This is what I immediately remembered. The same genre, the same fabrications and problems with authenticity. It is also interesting to read. But if nobody except Pikul likes you, then what happens.
    3. S_mirnov
      +8
      26 January 2014 09: 50
      Quote: delfinN
      I would like to hope that real professionals will make decisions.

      When the department is headed by a thief and a criminal (Serdyukov), thieves and criminals who help steal the boss also occupy the highest posts. Accordingly, if Shoigu, the head of the department, arranged for cleaning the ranks, then there is a chance that the army is controlled by professionals, if he did not clean the ranks, then thieves still rule.
    4. +3
      26 January 2014 11: 06
      and above all the General Staff. These are not just people who consider pieces of paper, shift and file into business, but above all, an analytical center. Today it is more important than ever ... "(from the article)


      I would like to ask: "Where was this" analytical center "when the furniture maker Serdyukov destroyed the Army?"
      It turns out that there is no "analytical center"; in this case, the General Staff does not save from D.U.A.K.A. and a Traitor who destroys defenses, if this D.u.r.a.k. (The traitor) is at the head of the Ministry of Defense and, I'm afraid even to say, of the state. What has already happened in Russia (USSR).
      And the second point concerning the "Plan for the construction and development of the Armed Forces." Who compiled it and when? If during the Serdyukov period, then one can imagine that the "Baba battalion" of the "reformer" was laid there.
      1. +1
        26 January 2014 15: 21
        and THEY at this time ANALYZED what happens ...
      2. SV
        SV
        +1
        26 January 2014 21: 26
        What a short memory people have !!!
        They have already forgotten the constant confrontation of Serdyukovschina and the General Staff, in which even Medvedev had to regularly intervene.
        As for "cleaning the ranks", Shoigu seems to have started with this. Remember Putin's shout that there is no need to indiscriminately break all the actions of stoolkin, that is, to approach carefully, Kuzhugetovich then began to restore the Army without jerks (quietly, without making a noise). Shoigu is a man whose power has not spoiled (he is a friend of my uncle and the relationship in their campaign has not changed over the past 30 years). Believe it or not, if they give him, he will be able to recreate the power of the Russian army.
    5. s1н7т
      0
      26 January 2014 19: 43
      Quote: delfinN
      for the MoD, the National Center must be created

      Why is there still some kind of center for the Moscow Region? For peacetime conditions, the Defense Ministry and the General Staff have everything they need to solve their problems. Another thing is a certain analogue of GKO, but it is not part of the Moscow Region, it is another structure, which in peacetime is just an excuse to spend / earn budget money on a non-child scale.
  2. makarov
    +3
    26 January 2014 07: 44
    However, the unique name "No army without the General Staff" is akin to 2 + 2 = 4 wassat
    1. +1
      26 January 2014 09: 02
      straight akin to 2 + 2 = 4

      I remembered one of Hitler's statements: "Without men, women would be lost."
      Yop ... CAN NOT ARGUE WITH THAT!
      1. +4
        26 January 2014 10: 37
        The "Main Intelligence Directorate" was renamed into the "Main Directorate" of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces. What is it for........
        It's simple! laughing So that the "chip" is not fired. It is immediately clear that the intelligence agents, and so - the "Main Directorate". What is management? It doesn't matter ...
        1. +2
          26 January 2014 11: 05
          There is no army without the General Staff


          what Interestingly, how much time was spent to come to this conclusion?
          And is it really necessary to become an army general to understand this? belay
    2. +3
      26 January 2014 11: 10
      Quote: makarov
      However, the unique name "No army without the General Staff" is akin to 2 + 2 = 4 wassat


      I agree, I myself did not appreciate the article.
      Some editorial from "Pionerskaya Pravda" - zero information content, the author could have thrown at least a plate with the structure of departments and departments for decency, there is nothing secret about it, but everyone would understand the title. drinks
  3. +5
    26 January 2014 07: 56
    As the former chief of the General Staff was able to get to the responsible post Makarov, he successfully cleaned out all independent generals from the army.

    I consider the chief of staff in the army a key figure and he should not, like MAKAROV, bow down to higher authorities, but should think first of all about the security of our country (which I have not seen in MAKAROV’s activities).
    1. makarov
      +3
      26 January 2014 08: 15
      I support you. Although he is my namesake, but the truth is more expensive !!! hi
    2. +2
      26 January 2014 08: 20
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      I consider the chief of the General Staff in the army a key figure

      And not only in the army. The General Staff coordinates all ministries and departments on the country's defense.
      1. +6
        26 January 2014 09: 17
        The General Staff coordinates all ministries and departments on the country's defense.

        Not COORDINATES, but takes partare said to be "two big differences".
        For example, when organizing construction in the interests of, well, for example, Russian Railways, a new rockad road near the state border, the General Staff, having submitted calculations and justifications, may request from the relevant ministry that the road should go 50 km to the north, or "bypass" (or vice versa - "went") to a specific area;
        ... or during the construction of the Amur highway, request from the relevant ministry that the section of the road with interchanges and gas stations indicated by them on the spot would be "covered" not with asphalt, but with concrete - to use this section "in the event ..." as aerodrome, and this should be done under the guidance of dedicated specialists from the Ministry of Defense.
        But WHO will build and HOW to DISTRIBUTE the cones received for this - this is no longer the problem of the General Staff. hi
    3. +1
      26 January 2014 09: 03
      Quote: The same Lech
      I consider the chief of the General Staff in the army a key figure and he should not, like MAKAROV, bow to the higher authorities, but should think first of all about the security of our country

      Grachev and Lebed also thought about the security of the country, how it ended up everyone knows. You can think about one thing, while doing different things.
      Quote: The same Lech
      As the former chief of the General Staff was able to get to the responsible post Makarov, he successfully cleaned out all independent generals from the army.

      Democracy in the army is unacceptable.
      1. +7
        26 January 2014 09: 54
        Quote: SPACE
        Democracy in the army is unacceptable.

        I would say disastrous.
        1. +1
          26 January 2014 10: 41
          I consider the chief of the General Staff in the army to be a key figure and he should not, like MAKAROV, bow down to higher authorities, but should think first of all about the security of our country
          I agree, but remember Kvashnin: he was so independent that there was talk of the General Staff withdrawing from the subordination of the Minister of Defense, which made him feel very unsure ....
        2. +2
          26 January 2014 10: 47
          I would say disastrous.

          The issue is debatable - take the order in the Israeli army - it would seem that in case of super-democratic relations, there is tough discipline and professional selection and gouging to the highest military post, even in dreams they won’t get.
          In Russia, this has become possible for a number of reasons, and therefore scandals are shaking our society.
          1. +2
            26 January 2014 11: 18
            The basis of the army is unquestioning execution of orders. A democratic state and democracy in the army are two different things, they cannot coexist. Discussion of the order and putting to a vote - to carry out or not, this is the end of the army, and as a consequence of the state. Remember 1917, the soldiers' committees, what this led to. PS Let me remind myself, "What is good for the Russian, death for the German," this is me compared with Israel.
      2. +3
        26 January 2014 10: 40
        Grachev and Lebed did not think about the country's security - concluding a Khasavyurt agreement with the bandits is that? Security? - no - this is a new war.
        And Mercedes Pashka, by the level of thinking, remained at the level of the division commander - and further on the career ladder it was impossible to raise him.
        No one talks about democracy in the army, orders must be followed. But I believe that the commander has the right to send a soldier to death only when he himself is ready to die with him.
        And those people who periodically trample on our army are not worthy to command our officers and soldiers.
        1. +2
          26 January 2014 11: 22
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          But I believe that the commander has the right to send a soldier to death only when he himself is ready to die with him.

          100+
        2. +2
          26 January 2014 13: 43
          Quote: The same Lech
          Nobody talks about democracy in the army

          Who said that? ...
          Quote: The same Lech
          successfully cleared out all independent generals from the army.

          Quote: The same Lech
          Grachev and Lebed did not think about the country's security - concluding a Khasavyurt agreement with the bandits is that? Security?

          Look in the wrong direction, 91 remember the role of these "independent generals" in the collapse of the USSR.
          Freedom, freedom of strife.
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    4. +2
      26 January 2014 10: 59
      Taburetkin Makarov picked up for himself.
      1. +3
        26 January 2014 11: 56
        Quote: konvalval
        Taburetkin Makarov picked up for himself.


      2. +2
        26 January 2014 14: 37
        konvalval


        The correctness of your words is proved by the "REGULATIONS on the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation" (Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of July 23, 2013 No. 631)

        "2. Management of the General Staff performs Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation.

        4. The General Staff is a part of the Ministry of Defense of Russia and consists of central military administration bodies and other structural units. The organizational structure of the General Staff claims Defense Minister of the Russian Federation. "

        Conclusion: General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation completely dependent and subordinate Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

        How, then, in such circumstances, to fulfill its functions if such a gentleman as Serdyukov suddenly appears at the post of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation?
        1. jjj
          0
          26 January 2014 19: 59
          But when they conceived the Minister of Defense as a civilian, he was assigned the role of a supply manager, no more. Direct control of the troops was carried out by the Supreme through the General Staff. Apparently, the General Staff is also terrible, that I had to close it to Shoigu, and not by law, but by decree, which indicates the temporality of this measure
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    5. +4
      26 January 2014 11: 54
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      How did the former chief of the General Staff manage to get to a responsible post Makarov


      As well as DAM)) wink
  4. +11
    26 January 2014 10: 49
    Therefore, there were two serious collisions with the General Staff. First, in the early 90s, the "democratic community" tried to liquidate it, and transfer the buildings on the Arbat to the Lenin Library for storage. The second is more serious and began to be embodied under Serdyukov. Transfer the remnants of the departments to the building of the General Staff Academy, on Leninsky Prospekt, and place a bank in the building on Arbat. The remnants, because everyone who resisted Serdyukvo-Makarovshchina were either fired or left themselves, not wanting to participate in the defeat of the Armed Forces. A women's battalion has already been housed in the old building and the difficult but profitable work of "reforming" has begun. The not unknown Vsilyeva commanded from Zhukov's office. And after all this, Serdyukov was presented with some lousy road to his dacha! Wonderful are your works, O Lord.
    1. +5
      26 January 2014 10: 57
      Good day to all. hi

      quote- Before starting our conversation, Valery Vasilyevich, I cannot but mention the holiday - the Day of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. This year, to our exaggeration, the leading body of military command, according to the definition of the Marshal of the Soviet Union Boris Shaposhnikov, “the brain of the army”, marks the 251 year.

      Happy holiday.
      Next.
      General Staff given additional powers

      To the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Russia responsible for coordinating the activities of federal executive bodies in the interests of ensuring the country's defense and security, said Army Chief of Staff General of the Army Valery Gerasimov.
      more details http://vz.ru/news/2014/1/25/669590.html
  5. +2
    26 January 2014 11: 30
    Quote: There is no army without the General Staff.

    The supreme body of military command and control in the structure of the Armed Forces of any state is the General Staff (GS). Therefore, the title of the article is somewhat primitive, sorry for directness. To conduct a modern strategic operation, a huge amount of calculations is required to provide it with the necessary forces and means. This is what operational management does. To create and arm new formations and associations in the General Staff there is an organizational mob. And so on. So, what is the army here without the General Staff!
    1. +2
      26 January 2014 11: 52
      All information is collected in the General Staff. Intelligence, the deployment of units, their numbers and weapons, the only way to get the big picture. A strategic operation is based on and calculated on a multitude of data, some of which are constantly changing. To deprive the General Staff Army means to decapitate it. Parts lacking coordination and acting inconsistently are doomed. An attempt to break Gsh should be another nail in the coffin of Stool.
  6. iulai
    0
    26 January 2014 12: 00
    I do not believe in the strength and authority of the General Staff, the officer corps! The furniture maker came and ruined everything! I wonder if this is possible in the US?
  7. +2
    26 January 2014 12: 22
    "To the General Staff - To be! And period ... And the" furniture maker "should not be spared, Repression and the Nazis together did not inflict such damage on the Army.
  8. VADEL
    +4
    26 January 2014 12: 52
    For service in the General Staff are selected the most trained officers from the main headquarters of the types and headquarters of the armed forces, as well as the best representatives of the headquarters of the military districts. For senior military positions, officers and generals are selected who have achieved a high level of coherence between their command and control bodies and troops, as well as possessing the necessary individual qualities. The latter condition can be considered the main one.

    Make a huge poster with this statement and hang it in the General Staff. And then, as usual, children, relatives, friend-drinking buddies will steer.
    1. +2
      26 January 2014 16: 59
      Quote: VADEL

      Make a huge poster with this statement and hang it in the General Staff. And then, as usual, children, relatives, friend-drinking buddies will steer.

      And looking at the poster, everyone will at least think that: “For service in the General Staff, the most trained officers are selected from the main headquarters of the branches of the Armed Forces, as well as the best representatives of the headquarters of military districts. The selection of officers and generals is carried out for the highest military positions, who have achieved a high level of coherence of the command and control bodies and troops subordinate to them, as well as possessing the necessary individual qualities. "
  9. +1
    26 January 2014 13: 40
    All is well, the main thing is that we would not prepare for past wars. And then it seems that they are still preparing to fight on a European theater of war, with hundreds of tanks and millions of soldiers.
    1. +3
      26 January 2014 14: 51
      Quote: Zomanus
      And then it seems that they are still preparing to fight on the European theater of war,

      The namesake, the potential theater of operations in our country are different. The task of the General Staff is to be ready to conduct combat operations on DIFFERENT military theater ...
      And this means that the troops will have a radically different organizational structure, as well as equipment and application strategy.
      On the same Chinese border, the existing Brigades of a new type are just drops, there should be another OSB (by the way, you yourself from Vladik wink ).
      Uniformity is not always good.

      For example:
      In the USSR Armed Forces on potential theater of operations were located:
      - in the PGW were TD;
      - in ZabVO there was a PulAD with battalions of 12 GUMO;
      - as a quick reaction force there were DShB.

      Each has its own place. Something like this.
      1. +1
        26 January 2014 22: 19
        Quote: Aleks tv
        - as a quick reaction force there were DShB.

        As I recall, Mogochu and the 11th Specialized Security School! She was not like China, she could not fight the climate!
        1. +2
          26 January 2014 22: 31
          Quote: non-primary
          As I recall Mogochu and 11 th ODSHB!

          Andrei, I myself have not been to Mogoch, but in ZabVO we had the following saying:

          God created Sochi,
          And hell - Mogochi.

          drinks
          1. +2
            27 January 2014 12: 21
            I myself was not in Mogoch, but in ZabVO we had the following saying:

            God created Sochi,
            And hell - Mogochi.


            The saying is incomplete. It sounded like this:

            God created Sochi,
            Damn - Mogochi,
            And some x ..,
            Nerzhavod and Dosatuy.
            laughing
            In Nerzavod and Dosatuy were motorized rifle regiments of the Sretensky division. drinks
            1. +1
              27 January 2014 14: 55
              Quote: vladimirZ
              In Nerzavod and Dosatuy were motorized rifle regiments of the Sretensky division.

              Which was then taken to Yasnaya and ... put on BHViT ...
              It’s sick to remember. Nerzavod itself fell apart, Sretensk as a city died without a division ...
              Only in Borzoi the brigade remained, the remaining 2 brigades were only under Ulan-Ude.

              Vladimir - drinks
              Thanks for ending the saying, vaguely remembered it.
              1. 0
                27 January 2014 15: 55
                Greetings, Alex. drinks
                It’s a pity that they destroyed everything.
                It so happened that in the early 70s, for more than six months he served in the Sretensky division, in a tank regiment. He was on business trips to Nerzavod and Dosatuy.
                In Sretensk there was a very good military town, still old brick officer dos and barracks, Japanese-built. All parts of the division in Sretensk were cropped. There was such a thing, i.e. not complete composition. In the tank regiment there was a full 1st tank company (maybe the 1st battalion, I already forgot something), and in the rest of the crews there were only driver mechanics. All companies and battalions have officers: platoon commanders, companies, technical locks, battalions, and chiefs of staff of battalions. T-54 tanks from the factory, in conservation. 10 training tanks, one per company.
                In Dosatui, a military town with a full motorized rifle regiment of 5 floors and 4-storey barracks.
                In Nerzavod, a military town, also a full regiment.
                Sorry. What do our state leaders think, destroying the defense of Russia, is unclear? crying
              2. s1н7т
                0
                28 January 2014 01: 29
                Quote: Aleks tv
                only in Borzo brigade remained

                It seems that I found the worst years in the Borzoi when I got to serve in the corps laughing The blue division "fought" at full speed, all the URs were deployed (even the 3rd line), Chindant flew constantly, the air defense missile defense forces came from the SGV, only in the Sherlova Hole, in my opinion, there was a BHVT. True, with the beginning of the withdrawal from the MPR, the railway began (
            2. 0
              27 January 2014 22: 18
              There was still folk art in verses:
              "Far from the world and sciences
              Some * uy built Ashuluk "!
      2. s1н7т
        +2
        26 January 2014 22: 44
        Yes, in the Union they approached different theaters of war taking into account their peculiarities, that's right, but I want to note that divisions were the lot not only of the short-lived ZGV, but the GSVG itself and other groups of troops, as well as all internal districts. DShB / Br in the USSR were not "quick reaction" units, they had purely military tasks. In ZABVO I found OPULABs, but not divisions - apparently, at different times there was a different approach, but each time in accordance with the tasks and realities. And the battalions of 12 GUMO did not meet there. Maybe there used to be, I don’t know, and I don’t know such units either. Well, no luck, maybe). I know one thing - the General Staff of the USSR Armed Forces had reasonable plans for all theaters. And very detailed. In the ZakVO, for example, even hairdressers and pasta factories on the territory of a potential enemy up to Israel were taken into account .. True, I can only say for the 70s. Skuse mi for many letters hi
        1. 0
          26 January 2014 23: 37
          Quote: c1n7
          Yes, in the Union they approached different TVDs taking into account their features,

          I agree with the comment, Valentine. Plus definitely.
          I will slightly correct:
          - In ZABVO there were also PulADs. Namely - the Divisions, and not only in ZabVO, in the Far Eastern Federal District, they were also in the OSH.
          - I cannot say the location of the battalions of the 12th GUMO "out of habit" - although this is no longer a secret. We called them "cunning sappers".
          hi
  10. +2
    26 January 2014 14: 37
    Yes, there is no Army without the General Staff.
    Almost any sensible manager can be a Minister, and the Chief of the General Staff and its structural staff - Army analytical brain.
    Who is remembered from the chiefs of the General Staff?
    Shaposhnikov, Zhukov, Vasilevsky, Ogarkov, Akhromeev, Kvashnin, Baluevsky ... yes, different people, but to the marrow BONES with a capital letter.
    But there were such:
    Kolesnikov, Makarov ……………………. I don’t even want to comment.

    I hope that Army General Gerasimov will shake up and restore the General Staff, as he always has been.
    Good luck, Valery Vasilievich.
    Tankers are not used to being on the cutting edge.
  11. Power
    -1
    26 January 2014 16: 26
    The General Staff of the Army is necessary, otherwise the Americans will have nowhere to deliver their "instant global strike." bully
  12. Power
    +1
    26 January 2014 16: 45
    He was mistaken in order to know "what, how much, to whom and how much." belay
  13. +2
    26 January 2014 18: 22
    I join in congratulations. As for the rest, the article turned out to be painfully "anniversary". It's no secret that hands and feet need a head, and not only today, but yesterday and forever. And the tasks for the General Staff are always, by and large, the same.
  14. +1
    26 January 2014 19: 46
    From the moment of the collapse of the USSR, the army and the General Staff were spread at first Gaidar reforms, then human rights activists and the media during Chechen companies, and then the businessman Taburetkin with his female battalion picked up the baton.
    There are no culprits as always
    Now we heroically rule the situation.
  15. +1
    26 January 2014 19: 58
    Judging by what is happening - the ARMENIAN GENERAL STAFF DOES NOT!
  16. 0
    26 January 2014 20: 12
    Quote: shelva
    the article turned out to be painfully "anniversary".

    And then! Its name alone is worth something - "There is no army without the General Staff! A deeply philosophical conclusion. The material in it is so-so - about nothing and, it seems, about everything. So crafty, problem-free. it would have remained - the usual editorial from the newspaper.
  17. +3
    26 January 2014 23: 32
    The General Staff, it is at all times the General Staff and the Soviet and the present .. The theater of operations has not changed much since the Soviet Union sunk into the summer .. ZabVO, Chita region, Borzensky district, s-t. Dauria .. Guards, Orders .... Motorized rifle division, consisting of: Motorized rifle Guards Port-Arthur, anti-aircraft missile Guards Ploestensky .. many kitchen strategists on this resource ..
    1. +1
      27 January 2014 00: 52
      Quote: Inok10
      ZabVO, Chita region, Borzensky district, s. Dauria ..

      Cat Smiling Cheshire, pour it!
      While we are alive Zabfish Вto twitch Оwill live in our hearts and ... in the liver.
      Take her down the Guran mosquito.
      drinks
      1. +1
        27 January 2014 01: 14
        Quote: Aleks tv
        Take her down the Guran mosquito.

        By the way, in Borz and in Sherlovaya Gora two regiments from the PulAD were previously ...
        wink
        Eh, it was a little time ...
        1. Alex 241
          +1
          27 January 2014 01: 22
          Comrades tank crews, do you have no smoking? laughing
          1. +1
            27 January 2014 01: 36
            Quote: Alex 241
            Comrades tank crews, do you have no smoking?

            laughing
            Sanya, and even now I can twist a goat’s leg ... there’s still a bumash on a special nana to be folded so that it comes off under one cigarette. They showed me in childhood at a technology park (even though I didn’t smoke then).
            Tobacco will be better than many of today's cigarettes, no kidding.
            1. Alex 241
              +1
              27 January 2014 01: 42
              Lesh when in 90 with smoking seams was full, the SAPS group leader saved me, my grandfather from Ukraine sent him a home shag, a song, like herzegovina-flora, and I’ll turn off the goat leg with my eyes closed good
              1. +1
                27 January 2014 01: 47
                Quote: Alex 241
                Lesh when in 90 with smoking seams was full

                Hmm ...
                Then the soldiers on guard even tried to smoke tea ...
                I didn’t pitch then, but I saw it myself.
                Edrit-curl.
                1. Alex 241
                  +1
                  27 January 2014 01: 50
                  Alex comes into the hostel, there is a strange smell from under the door of the room, I go in, Vasya sits full of snot and tears, coughs and puffs with a giant cigarette-roll with tea, though it didn’t last long.
  18. +3
    27 January 2014 23: 52
    Quote: Aleks tv
    Quote: Aleks tv
    Take her down the Guran mosquito.

    By the way, in Borz and in Sherlovaya Gora two regiments from the PulAD were previously ...
    wink
    Eh, it was a little time ...

    In Borz, "Blue Division" and also "Barnaul" .. to the left to the Blue Division, to the right and Barnaul, whoever understands the subject :)
    1. 0
      28 January 2014 17: 14
      In Borz, "Blue Division" and also "Barnaul" .. to the left to the Blue Division, to the right and Barnaul, whoever understands the subject :)


      If anyone in the subject will understand that in Borz, further to the right behind "Barnaul", at the final stop of the bus - the air town of Chindan airfield. There were 2 air regiments: fighter-bombers on the SU-17 and reconnaissance aircraft on the MiG-21.
      Nowadays the airfield is abandoned, and the air towns are probably also. In concrete caponiers, the vehicles of the trackers are stored. laughing
      Survived, damn it. Nobody needs anything. Their mother is at the foot of these destroyer rulers. fool
      And in Chindant, the airfield is located in the area of ​​360 cloudless days or close to it. There are practically no non-flying days in a year. For a set of flying time to flyers, it is better not to find.
  19. +3
    30 January 2014 00: 15
    Quote: vladimirZ
    In Borz, "Blue Division" and also "Barnaul" .. to the left to the Blue Division, to the right and Barnaul, whoever understands the subject :)


    If anyone in the subject will understand that in Borz, further to the right behind "Barnaul", at the final stop of the bus - the air town of Chindan airfield. There were 2 air regiments: fighter-bombers on the SU-17 and reconnaissance aircraft on the MiG-21.
    Nowadays the airfield is abandoned, and the air towns are probably also. In concrete caponiers, the vehicles of the trackers are stored. laughing
    Survived, damn it. Nobody needs anything. Their mother is at the foot of these destroyer rulers. fool
    And in Chindant, the airfield is located in the area of ​​360 cloudless days or close to it. There are practically no non-flying days in a year. For a set of flying time to flyers, it is better not to find.

    There is no dispute about the number of sunny days .. but, the rest .. is your sweetheart intelligence not very outdated? .. :) :) :) :) :) :)