The era of US domination in the Pacific is coming to an end

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A meeting of the Surface Association took place a few days ago in the USA fleet. Among other speakers, Admiral Sam Locklear, Head of the US Pacific Command, spoke at the event. He spoke about some trends in the development of the geopolitical situation in the Pacific Ocean, and also noted their negative consequences.



The main theme of Admiral Locklear's report was the prospects for US troops in the Pacific region. The warlord acknowledged that recent events in the region have led to a gradual reduction in the superiority of the American armed forces in the region. The era when the naval and air forces of the United States fully controlled the Pacific, with no competitors, comes to an end. New strong states with their own interests have appeared in the region.

The main reason for the reduction of American superiority, Admiral Locklear, considers the development of the Chinese armed forces. China is actively modernizing its navy, as it intends to secure the status of a regional leader. The development of China and the reduction of defense spending in the United States in the future will lead to a serious change in the balance of forces in the Pacific.

The head of the Pacific Command expressed some thoughts about maintaining the current situation. In order to avoid a major change in the balance of power, the United States must resume work in a number of promising areas. In particular, it is necessary to continue the creation of new anti-ship guided missiles.

Another way to preserve the balance of power in the Pacific may be the redistribution of US Navy ships, taking into account existing and future threats. The Pentagon is already implementing a gradual transfer of ships to the Pacific Ocean. As a result of the implementation of the current plans, more than half of the existing warships will serve at Pacific bases. However, such a strategy has obvious disadvantages. Due to limited financial capabilities, the Pacific ship grouping will have to be replenished at the expense of other connections, which will lead to a weakening of the latter.

S. Locklear encourages the development of new plans and strategies that will take into account new risks and threats. It is necessary to consider various scenarios of developments, including those in which the United States does not have much advantage over potential opponents. It should be noted that in this century new regions may emerge in which the United States military will lose unconditional leadership.

The local wars of recent times affected the capabilities of the US Pacific group. The United States Navy, Air Force, Ground Forces, and United States Marine Corps have fought at great distances from the Pacific Ocean over the past few decades, which has strengthened the army in some areas and weakened in others. Given current trends, sufficient attention needs to be paid again to troops with a Pacific region in their area of ​​responsibility.

An important topic in the context of changing the balance of power in the Pacific is also new weapons. Not so long ago, the Pentagon reported on the Chinese tests of a promising hypersonic shock system. By some estimates, similar weapon it is capable of overcoming air defense and missile defense of ship formations, and therefore represents a great danger, including for American ships.

The pace of development of the Chinese armed forces and insufficient attention to their own troops by the leadership of the United States makes S. Locklear worry. To maintain the leading position, it is necessary not only to increase the number of ships or aircraft, but also to create new equipment or weapons. Without modern equipment with high performance, the United States will not be able to maintain a dominant position in any region.

Admiral Locklear noted that China is not the only threat to the United States in the Pacific. No less serious problem should be considered North Korea. This state has extremely difficult relations with almost all of its neighbors, which is why the military-political situation on the Korean Peninsula is extremely tense. The presence of nuclear weapons and means of delivery of the DPRK further complicates this problem. Pyongyang’s unpredictable actions could lead to armed conflict that will affect the entire Pacific region.

The internal problems of the United States in combination with the potential of other states can lead to a noticeable change in the balance of power in some regions. The growth rate of Chinese military power directly suggests that first of all this balance will change on the Pacific Ocean. In the future, it is possible to repeat similar events in other areas of the planet. This means that the United States, if they want to maintain a dominant position in important regions, or at least not lose their main positions, will have to develop new strategies in the very near future.


On the materials of the sites:
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  1. HAM
    +6
    24 January 2014 09: 05
    Quote: China is actively upgrading its navy, as it intends to consolidate its status as a regional leader.


    Mistake left-world leader !!
    1. 0
      24 January 2014 09: 30
      He is still far from the world. I hope we never see this. For the Chinese are an enemy worse than Hitler. And anti-Russian propaganda in China is strong.
      1. Clegg
        +3
        24 January 2014 10: 36
        Quote: Kibalchish
        And anti-Russian propaganda in China is strong.

        can be more?
        1. Gluxar_
          +2
          24 January 2014 19: 09
          Quote: Clegg
          can be more?

          I heard that in 2007 in the province of Luan Ming, an article by one author with anti-Russian rhetoric was published in a local newspaper ... honestly. The Chinese enemies are worse than Hitler.

          Do not pay attention to provocateurs and vyserkov, it’s their fate to put the wheels in the wheel to everyone except their masters ...
      2. +3
        24 January 2014 10: 36
        Quote: Kibalchish
        He is still far from the world.
        Not as far as us. In 10 years, they will begin to pump law globally. And they’re already climbing into the Arctic.
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      4. nickname 1 and 2
        +3
        24 January 2014 12: 24
        Quote: Kibalchish
        For the Chinese are an enemy worse than Hitler.


        Why is it suddenly? What are the reasons you have such a claim?
        1. -6
          24 January 2014 13: 27
          And you read more about the Chinese. Not about those that were weak, but how they treat the defeated. We are generally "barbarians" for them ... second class.
      5. Onyx
        +3
        24 January 2014 12: 56
        Quote: Kibalchish
        He is still far from the world. I hope we never see this. For the Chinese are an enemy worse than Hitler. And anti-Russian propaganda in China is strong.

        Why are the Chinese enemies to us worse than Hitler?
      6. +1
        24 January 2014 19: 32
        Quote: Kibalchish
        He is still far from the world. I hope we never see this. For the Chinese are an enemy worse than Hitler. And anti-Russian propaganda in China is strong.


        Do not make up. This is anti-Chinese hysteria in Russia. In China, rather, anti-Japanese.
      7. SV
        SV
        0
        26 January 2014 19: 23
        Was in China or just heard something? I have Chinese friends (two, and I don’t record as friends) - smart, educated people. Their population is one and a half billion, and, accordingly, they also fell a lot, but to consider that the PRC is unequivocal - the enemy can speak full ... or a provocateur ...........
    2. -14
      24 January 2014 09: 37
      Long live the Chinese world order!
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        1. 0
          24 January 2014 14: 39
          Quote: Canep
          Crazy or what?

          If everything was so simple ...
          In the 2005 exercises of the year on the Shandong Peninsula, Russian military experts accidentally saw the Chinese staff cards. All of Siberia, Kazakhstan, Central Asia are yellow painted over them - in China these territories are considered captured by Russians more than 300 years ago.

          1. +2
            24 January 2014 19: 44
            Judging by the map, the Chinese are also a piece of India and Bangladesh, they want to grab a lot of other things) I don’t believe a bit))
            1. 0
              24 January 2014 19: 57
              They fought with India a couple of times.
              Sino-Indian Border War (1962)
              Sino-Indian Border Conflict (1967)
              Once with Vietnam.
              Sino-Vietnamese War (1979)
              Just a little strength then was not enough, and decided to dig.
            2. 0
              24 January 2014 20: 32
              Quote: Su24
              Judging by the map, the Chinese are also a piece of India and Bangladesh, they want to grab a lot of other things) I don’t believe a bit))

              Your right, only something tells me that the Chinese do not care much. request In Africa, local wars are in a permanent stage, and the Chinese don't care, they are already at home there, and no one dares to touch them, even the most frostbitten rebels and guerrillas - makes you think about Chinese methods of suggestion ... I can hint ... "total elimination interference ".
          2. Shur
            0
            25 January 2014 01: 12
            Those. to the reign of Peter? Interesting .. "with
            the end of 1701, the Russian army began to beat the Swedish in parts. AT
            1702 Peter stormed Oreshk (renaming it
            Shlisselburg); in 1703 at the mouth of the Neva laid St. Peter
            burg; Yam, Koporye and Marienburg were also taken; in 1704
            Narva was stormed; in 1705 it was brutally crushed by the rebellion
            in Astrakhan, and in 1707-1708 - the uprising of K.I. Bulavin;
            in 1708, Peter defeated the Swedes near the village of Dobrogo, then the Leuven Corps
            Haupta at the village of Lesnaya, and on June 27, 1709 - the army of Karl KP at
            Poltava.
            The Poltava victory was a turning point in the history of the Russian
            these. After the Poltava victory, the international significance of Russia
            rose sharply. Saxony and Denmark renewed alliance with her. TO
            Prussia also joined him, pledging not to pass through
            Swedish troops entered its territory, and in 1714 entered
            war with Sweden (but she almost did not conduct military operations). AT
            1710 Hanover entered into an alliance with Russia, whose elector was
            soon became the king of England.
            In 1710, Russian troops occupied Vyborg, Kexholm, Riga and
            Revel. Peter kept the Baltic-German nobility his
            privileges, and it recognized the accession of Estonia and Liflyan-
            diy to Russia.
            In the fall of 1710, the Turkish government declared war
            Russia, fearing its further strengthening. Peter's calculations on
            the help of the principalities of Moldavia and Wallachia did not materialize, on the bank "Kazan took .. Siberia is not :)
            "The conquest of Siberia is the process of conquering and incorporating Siberia and the Far East into the Russian (Russian) state from the second half XVI to XIX century... Traditionally, it is considered the campaign of Yermak's Cossacks against the Siberian Khanate, begun in 1580. "
            And, apparently, it’s as if they were going to Qin, oh ..
          3. Shur
            0
            25 January 2014 01: 18
            There was a war with the Arim, but it seems much earlier just in S.M.Z.H, if you know this, you will understand. And it seems that the symbol of this victory was "The rider on a white horse piercing the serpent (dragon)".
          4. SV
            SV
            0
            26 January 2014 19: 28
            Such Odiot Chinese and such cunning experts! wassat
        2. Beck
          +1
          24 January 2014 16: 59
          Quote: Dunno
          Long live the Chinese world order!


          Quote: Canep
          Crazy or what?


          Like crazy. And he thinks he was joking.
      2. Wurger
        +11
        24 January 2014 10: 59
        Show-off, such show-off. Kakbe no one thinks that if the United States and Europe decline economically, then China will be lost. This paper tiger has been artificially inflated and is dizzy with success. Admirers of China constantly write what kind of hardworking people they have, who do not drink, in general, what great fellows they are. Question. Are they so stubborn to work only after 91 years old? And before that what? A bowl of rice for the whole day and work from dawn to dusk, and on the way out there is zilch. Placing production in the west with them, that's all their "Chinese" merit. In the West, they are already rethinking this annoying oversight and there is a possibility that this balloon will be blown away because ambition has become a lot. There are the first signs. Samsung is transferring production from China to Vietnam because it has become expensive. Who needs expensive Chinese goods?
        1. 0
          24 January 2014 11: 30
          Quote: Wurger
          This paper tiger is artificially inflated and he began to feel dizzy from success.

          America is also artificially inflated, but it is precisely because of this that it is afloat.
          1. Wurger
            +3
            24 January 2014 11: 41
            America is artificially inflated, because it exported its production to China. But before that, she herself created it and herself became one of the most powerful powers in the world. And how old is she? 200? And China has been sitting on the ass for thousands of years, and it would have been sitting if it hadn’t for 500 billion of investments, only because at first they worked there for food. If the West had placed production in Russia (science fiction of course) and would have made such money, we would have landed on Alpha Centauri. And then China is China, ce, fie. The Chinese scream that their story is much older than ours. Like we are barbarians in comparison with them. But throughout history, China has never been a world power. Itself would become, yes, honor and respect. Here the loot is pouring, only stamping plants.
            1. +1
              24 January 2014 12: 02
              Quote: Wurger
              America is artificially inflated, because it exported its production to China. But before that, she herself created it and herself became one of the most powerful powers in the world. And how old is she? 200?

              Dear, you are reasoning superficially. China's economy was based on cheap slave power. If this trend changes (which is unlikely), then China is able to live without European plants on its territory. China has long learned to not only copy but also produce its own. Also, do not forget about the vast Chinese expansion in different parts of the world.
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              2. nickname 1 and 2
                +1
                24 January 2014 12: 30
                Quote: bazilio
                Also, do not forget about the vast Chinese expansion in different parts of the world.


                What are they? Already take over the land and destroy the natives?

                And if the loot is (appeared) it is strange if they were sitting at home on bags of this dough.

                Fictitious fears ...
                1. +2
                  24 January 2014 14: 48
                  Quote: nick 1 and 2
                  What are they? already taking over land ...

              3. ka5280
                -2
                24 January 2014 13: 19
                Could you name at least something that China has developed, licensed and self-produced? And you can’t, there are simply no such things in Tama. China, this is a blowing soap bubble and no more.
                1. -1
                  24 January 2014 15: 38
                  Quote: ka5280
                  Could you name at least something that China has developed, licensed and self-produced? And you can’t, there are simply no such things in Tama. China, this is a blowing soap bubble and no more.

                  Anything? Su 27, for example, since the year 95 has been collecting licenses. And the main list of what makes China, look on the Internet there are full of online stores.
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            2. +3
              24 January 2014 16: 37
              Quote: Wurger
              And how old is she? 200? And China has been sitting on the ass for thousands of years, and it would have been sitting if it hadn’t for 500 billion of investments, only because at first they worked there for food.

              Moreover, they began to help China also because it took a position hostile to the USSR and, in essence, they tried to grow a new monster from it directed against the USSR, like Germany in the 30's. It’s not a fact, of course, that the Chinese would go for it, but nevertheless I have such an idea.
            3. +1
              24 January 2014 20: 01
              Quote: Wurger
              America is artificially inflated, because it exported its production to China. But before that, she herself created it and herself became one of the most powerful powers in the world. And how old is she? 200? And China has been sitting on the ass for thousands of years,



              You, comrade, are completely unfamiliar with Chinese history. China in antiquity and the Middle Ages stably produced 1/3 of world production. And now it’s going to this. And at the same time has always been one of the most educated powers. And that, characteristically, very rarely pursued an expansionist policy.
              About "sitting on the ass" this is generally what it was? Do you want to say that the people should be flattery, but only create new technical inventions? Progress for the sake of progress?
              1. vzhzh
                0
                24 January 2014 20: 25
                I’ll even say this! It’s our happiness that we don’t speak Chinese and are not called (T.E. slave) Could have been captured in the Middle Ages (the change of dynasties prevented! Vietnam, Korea, Turkestan, Burma-territories of the state of Qin (China) .
            4. 0
              25 January 2014 06: 15
              Quote: Wurger
              Wurger Yesterday, 11: 41 ↑
              America is artificially inflated, because it exported its production to China. But before that, she herself created it and herself became one of the most powerful powers in the world. And how old is she? 200? And China has been sitting on the ass for thousands of years, and it would have been sitting if it hadn’t for 500 billion of investments, only because at first they worked there for food. If the West had placed production in Russia (science fiction of course) and would have made such money, we would have landed on Alpha Centauri. And then China is China, ce, fie. The Chinese scream that their story is much older than ours. Like we are barbarians in comparison with them. But throughout history, China has never been a world power. Itself would become, yes, honor and respect. Here the loot is pouring, only stamping plants.

              The messenger)))) for what the hell and how can I land on a star? ))) With one phrase of himself below the baseboard - handsome
          2. +2
            24 January 2014 15: 39
            When two soap bubbles meet, they burst together :)
        2. +2
          24 January 2014 15: 38
          Wurger


          I fully support !!! China's economy, and therefore its growth, including the military one, directly depends on consumers of Chinese goods. America and the EU are the main consumers, because at one time they brought their production to China to reduce the cost of production. If China begins to significantly squeeze America in its "hegemony" then the LAMERICAN and GAYEuropean patriots will quickly decide on the embargo of Chinese goods, in parallel they will adopt a law to facilitate production on their territory. What will lead to a multibillion-dollar blockage of consumer goods turnover, YES, many will say they now have no consumer goods, they are at a different level of production ... and who will buy high-tech equipment from China if there is an embargo? And even more so if the Chinese will surpass the European counterparts, then I think they will hardly sell it to our "MO" and "state" ....
      3. SV
        SV
        0
        26 January 2014 20: 10
        Friendship with China is beneficial for Russia at this stage? - Yes, definitely! you take a unified position on many key issues of international politics, which does not allow your friends to dictate their will unambiguously and has led (including due to the growing military power of the Russian Federation and China) to a real weakening of their positions on the world stage.
        Who benefits from hysteria over China’s aggression against Russia? - unequivocally NATO and their satellites. Politics divide and rule their creed!
        But you should keep your finger on the pulse of events, as into the world is changeable and valuable. However, at present, we need each other like air, and in my opinion this will last as long as there are two vectors in the world: Russia / China / and + a number of countries - USA / Europe / and + a number of countries. In any case, the NATO + policy ... leaves us no choice now or in the near future whether we want it or not. (Or did the states have a more profitable ally? The 90s showed clearly.)
    3. +1
      24 January 2014 13: 25
      Navel will unleash China's world leader to become
    4. AVV
      +2
      24 January 2014 14: 45
      Enough America !!! Already dominated, it's time to rest !!!
    5. Gluxar_
      +1
      24 January 2014 19: 07
      Quote: HAM
      Quote: China is actively upgrading its navy, as it intends to consolidate its status as a regional leader.


      Mistake left-world leader !!

      World leadership is out of the question. We are not talking about the leadership of China in the United States. The United States worries that its "total superiority" will be lost. That is, they will have to fight only with a slight superiority over the rival ... and the United States never knew how to fight with an equal, so this is actually a prerequisite for a future defeat.
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      2. -1
        24 January 2014 20: 42
        But is it only the USA? are there any examples when the weak defeated the strong? those. army to army (except for exhausting partisans, I know that you can’t win a guerrilla war). You know very well that in Russian history there are examples of dubious victories with a clear numerical / quantitative superiority (Finnish and initial stage of the Second World War.
        And the fact that the USA preliminarily creates superiority is normal, while the second (or third) echelon participating in operations does NOT directly participate in battles (there are a lot of army and air force support units and fleet forces, given the remoteness from the US territory - they all belong to involved in the operation).
        Example: a military operation in Iraq (2003), if, without taking into account the British (the ultimate mission of the city of Basra) and the units of paratroopers and marines (on the flanks), there is essentially one fur. division (3rd) against the Iraqi army. You can compare by comparing the territory with the Second Chechen company (1999-2000, unconditional superiority was also created).
        1. +1
          24 January 2014 23: 51
          Only in Chechnya they paid the militants what they would fight, and in Iraq, the generals, so that they lose.
          1. -1
            25 January 2014 00: 17
            I agree! and with our elite a dark history, unexplained leaks and interruptions in the DB ("ceasefire").
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  2. +3
    24 January 2014 09: 27
    In short, give me the money.
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  3. 0251
    +2
    24 January 2014 09: 27
    Nothing is said about the Russian Navy. Or we are so "powerful" that you can not even talk about us. It's a pity. In the Pacific, we too should be and preferably not the last.
    1. Dmitry Zurn
      +3
      24 January 2014 10: 27
      Unfortunately, it’s too early to talk about us.
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    3. Ivan Petrovich
      0
      24 January 2014 23: 28
      we are no longer poking around the Kuril ridge
  4. +1
    24 January 2014 09: 44
    And the Americans want to prove to their Japanese and South Korean friends that they have everything under control.
  5. +5
    24 January 2014 10: 37
    A rare case has arisen when Russia, in the shadow of developing countries, can systematize its fleet based on the experience of other countries, avoid mistakes and produce an effective fleet, according to the global scenario. And the needs of the Navy.
    1. +2
      24 January 2014 20: 59
      You wanted to say in the shadow of developed countries? and if developing, then generally hopelessness.
      But there are prerequisites that an effective fleet (either laid down, or already in the ranks of the ships of the main classes) is being produced, I still do not see (individual and plans do not count).
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  6. +3
    24 January 2014 11: 43
    I’m surprised myself, but perhaps now I AGREE with the expert and analyte Khramchikhin: it’s still possible to come to an agreement with the USA and the European Union, but it won’t work with China. The Chinese have a completely alien mentality to us, they’re not that they’ll be worse than Hitler, they’re like as if they arrived from another planet. However, someone here wrote not so long ago that they were traders and were dirty, but not warriors.
  7. 0
    24 January 2014 12: 26
    Who knows how Chinese beer tastes, and whether they have an analogue of Bavarian sausages, then I know that they have no Mercedes cars.
    1. 0
      24 January 2014 13: 31
      Quote: chunga-changa
      Who knows how Chinese beer tastes

      Quite not bad, when I tried it for the first time, I was very surprised. But the vodka is filthy ...
      1. 0
        24 January 2014 14: 30
        I completely agree, the beer surprised, "Great Wall", something like that, as that name was, a dark elongated bottle, it looks like "velvet", who remembers and the foam is thick, yellowish in color. And the vodka, like our clones, th ... but.
  8. +2
    24 January 2014 13: 14
    In my opinion, the entire US era as a superpower is coming to an end.
    1. +1
      25 January 2014 00: 27
      Quote: sinukvl
      In my opinion, the entire US era as a superpower is coming to an end

      The United States is still a superpower. But their positions are strongly undermined in various regions of the world by the so-called "regional leaders". New centers of power are being formed. The States feel this from the growing competition, the growth of the power of the rivals' armed forces. Therefore, Barack Obama was forced to declare, voicing the new US doctrine, that the world is becoming multipolar, thereby recognizing the existence of regional centers of power.
      In the Asia-Pacific region, China wants to climb the palm of the championship, pushing Dzhapanov from there. Japan is an ally of the United States, China is hostile. And, like a growing predator, he bites his teeth in search of a prey. It is important for us that our Far East does not become the object of expansion. Therefore, we went for cooperation with China, saving them from oil and gas dependence and maritime logistics in this matter. In return, they received support from the UN on the Syrian issue, diversification of the flow of energy resources, apparently, rare-earth metals, without which the r / e industry today cannot develop.
      And the PRC fleet is developing because without this they cannot solve the issue with Taiwan and the Japanese, who themselves have modern Navy, plus US support.
      China is actively capitalizing dollar reserves, having previously announced that it will stop accumulating them. There is serious talk about the yuan as a possible reserve currency. This is a direct, clear threat to US economic dominance. Puppeteers will not look at it calmly. Besides, the problem of debt ... I would like to write it off without really straining. The path is war. And then: "we forgive our enemies our debts!"
      So, the commander of the Pacific Forces, USerov, is rightly worried: what if you can’t overcome one by one? Again in / prom lobby you need to feed ...
  9. +2
    24 January 2014 13: 21
    As I understand it, the Admiral is hinting that he needs 10 more Ford-type aircraft carriers to withstand the Armadas (that is, one, and then raw) of China. apparently the admiral does not sleep well and is nervous at night, until his fleet 20 times exceeds the enemy. And then suddenly a war belay and we have only 10 times more! and you can lose laughing
    1. +1
      24 January 2014 13: 37
      Quote: spirit
      As I understand it, the Admiral is hinting that he needs 10 more Ford-type aircraft carriers to withstand the Armadas (that is, one, and then raw) of China.

      Well, as if on the run, you want to win - do not let the people catching up with you, do not add gas - you will go into the category of catching up ...
      1. +1
        24 January 2014 16: 40
        And the Chinese are running fast. Recent olympiads have already proven this.
  10. +1
    24 January 2014 17: 59
    China, China, darkness to the people. Rubber bomb and all
    1. +1
      25 January 2014 00: 50
      Quote: muhomor
      China, China, darkness to the people. Rubber bomb and all

      You are absolutely right: on land is a problem! After Damansky, she stood before us in full growth. Then they tried to solve it with URs, mine-explosive obstacles, machine-gun and artillery divisions, engineering fire weapons, etc. Now it is all destroyed, outdated, disbanded, worn out ... In short, the avalanche cannot be stopped by the previous means. We need a "rubber bomb".
      I once asked knowledgeable people: what if? However, my question did not plunge the interlocutor into despondency, as I expected. The former chief (friend and comrade) advised to sleep well and breathe deeply. Then the conversation somehow moved by itself into the field of physics, genetics, various types of energy. By the end of "drinking water" I was already proud of our Kulibins and decided to follow the advice I had received: sleep, breathing deeply.
      So the idea of ​​a "rubber bomb" is extremely productive and has good prospects.
  11. 120352
    -3
    24 January 2014 18: 24
    And I thought it was a sinful thing that we surpassed the American fleet, well, we just crushed it with our project 20380 corvettes. Of course, they were small boats of the fourth rank, but if there were a thousand of them at once ... And then I counted , thousands didn’t work out. Even a hundred. But we don’t release cruisers ... So, for sure, China!
    1. +1
      24 January 2014 18: 53
      Quote: 120352
      And then he counted, thousands didn’t work out. Even a hundred.


      And even 5 no. Only this is the 3rd rank, not the 4th.
      1. +2
        25 January 2014 01: 50
        Quote: patsantre
        Only this is the 3 rank, not the 4 rank.

        "However, it will not be enough ... "(c)
        "Corvettes of project 20380 - a project of multipurpose surface combat ships of the 2nd rank of the near sea zone (corvettes), developed for the Russian Navy. "Http: //ru.wikipedia.
        I didn’t believe it myself, but on a tank gyus flutters. I mean - 2-th rank!
        1. 0
          26 January 2014 11: 52
          Hmm, not even surprised)
  12. 0
    24 January 2014 20: 31
    Quote: And Us Rat
    In the 2005 exercises of the year on the Shandong Peninsula, Russian military experts accidentally saw the Chinese staff cards. All of Siberia, Kazakhstan, Central Asia are yellow painted over them - in China these territories are considered captured by Russians more than 300 years ago.


    Have you been there among the Chinese or Russian military experts? And how did you manage to emboss a card?
    1. 0
      25 January 2014 01: 39
      Quote: SoboL
      Have you been there among the Chinese or Russian military experts? And how did you manage to emboss a card?

      Neither one nor the other, I so ... passed by feel
  13. +1
    24 January 2014 21: 26
    In the countries of Indochina, in India and Korea, the Chinese cannot get in with their hands - there are a lot of people there without them. An open conflict with the nuclear powers? No, only on "soft paws" to get close to other people's spaces. Just in case - there are more than XNUMX billion of them - even the Americans will not get a place. And Russia really has a problem with the compaction of the population in the territory adjacent to China.
  14. +1
    24 January 2014 21: 28
    Here, some people do not understand that China is a dangerous neighbor and rival (at least militarily), so officially we are forced to be friends with them, especially since this annoys the States.
    The main essence of our allied relations in the military sphere is, first of all, the fight against terrorism and Islamic extremism in Central and Central Asia (CSTO).
  15. -1
    24 January 2014 21: 47
    If anyone dominates the Pacific Ocean besides the United States, Japan will build aircraft-carrying destroyers for themselves (they cannot be above the EsM-class destroyer) and there will be a second (100%) fleet in the World.
  16. Stasi
    +1
    24 January 2014 22: 40
    I agree that the United States is losing leadership in the Pacific to China; it is actively building up its military power. China is forced to carry out aggressive expansion; it is compelled by the demographic situation. The population of China is almost 1.5 billion people. Each of these people should be provided with all the necessary resources for living: territory, water, food. All this is very lacking. While the USSR was alive, China looked to the South and led its expansion there. But with the collapse of the USSR and the subsequent chaos of the 90s, which had an extremely negative impact on Russia, especially on its demography, China is increasingly looking to the North, that is, to us. Now China is engaged in disputes with Japan and other Asian countries over the possession of territories and the possession of mineral reserves, and China is also expanding to Africa. The African continent is rich in natural resources, has a very suitable climate for living, the population is declining due to the AIDS epidemic and internecine wars. All conditions for the settlement of Africa by the Chinese are quite suitable. The article does not say what the American admiral thinks about our Pacific Fleet, about Russia's influence on the Pacific region. It seems that our fleet is not considered by the Yankees to be a serious problem or a hindrance.
    Russia should strengthen its presence in the Far East, strengthen and modernize the Pacific Fleet, and increase the birth rate in its Far East. Otherwise, all of this will swallow China. Its economy, army and navy allow it to wage war on two or more fronts. But while China is occupied by the South and competitors in the form of other Asian countries. And this gives Russia some time to strengthen its position in the Asia-Pacific and the Far East. The only question is how our rulers will be able to use it correctly.
    1. 0
      24 January 2014 23: 57
      A lot of common rhetoric. Do not bring the Lord! if China begins aggressive expansion (sometimes it’s only military), it sounds cool, but since it’s not being expressed in anything, it’s gaining strength and knowledge.
      Our land border with China is too long to think about the Pacific Fleet, and not about the shock capabilities of the ground forces and especially the Air Force.
      China is now not in a position to wage a war on two or more fronts (the USA, Japan, India, the Russian Federation), you judge primarily by human resources, but the quality of technical equipment and, most importantly, the combat experience of modern missile defense by the armed forces of the PRC is still questionable. when they can absorb Taiwan, then the so-called. "aggressive expansion".

      PS: And some amateur apparently knows little about the Japanese fleet in comparison with the Chinese, or Russian Pacific Fleet, so as not to argue putting a minus “-” to the post.
      1. 0
        25 January 2014 11: 06
        They can now swallow Taiwan.
        Taiwan’s military headquarters gives very pessimistic forecasts about the war, and recently moved on to calculations and estimates when the Americans can no longer free the occupied Taiwan.
        Therefore, the Taiwan government is slowly integrating with the PRC, hoping that by stretching the time of the merger, something will happen in the world.
        1. 0
          25 January 2014 14: 53
          If you do not revolve in Taiwan's government and military circles, then you should probably not fantasize. In order for the Americans to liberate occupied Taiwan, the Chinese must first seize it; the Strait of Formosa can become an insurmountable obstacle.
          1. 0
            26 January 2014 08: 18
            TAIPEI, October 9th. The Taiwan Ministry of Defense said that the armed forces of China will reach the required level of technical development and will be able to capture the territory of the island by 2020. The specific terms of power of a partially recognized state are called for the first time. The ally of Taiwan, which can assist him in the event of an attack, is the United States.


            The forecast is contained in the annual report of the Taiwan ministry. Experts concluded that by 2020, the PRC will not only be able to land on the island and take control of it, but also effectively resist interference in other countries' conflicts.
            Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2013/10/09/1185702.html
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            2. 0
              26 January 2014 22: 33
              Ha! Again, it was not without supercomputers, the military departments in many countries (including the USA, Great Britain, Japan, etc.) excite the consciousness of fellow citizens, alluding to an increase in the military budget, and if, for example, it is purely hypothetically assumed that the gene itself is permissible. the PLA headquarters has, or is developing plans for a military action against Taiwan, but only with the immediate eye for the period 2025-2030 (as true communists can easily coincide with the 100th anniversary of the founding of the PLA (1927), or the 80th anniversary of the founding of the PRC (1949)) , there are no coincidences in the planning of the continental Chinese and islanders.
              The Chinese can persuade Taiwan to integrate, only with a very sweet carrot, or Taiwan will come to this on its own if the United States and the current world order in general collapse.
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    3. +1
      25 January 2014 02: 21
      Quote: Stasi
      China is increasingly looking to the North, that is, to us.

      "The eye sees, but the tooth does not."
      I often thought about this issue and this is what I came to the conclusion.
      Now in the Middle Kingdom, pragmatists are in power. Like Mao, they will not go on a gamble with respect to a nuclear power (RF). Moreover, unlike the USSR, we openly declared: whoever encroaches on the territorial integrity and sovereignty of our state will receive a full nuclear club.
      Mongolia... On January 15.01.1966, 20, the Mongolian People's Republic concluded with us for 5 years and is constantly prolonging the AGREEMENT of friendship, cooperation and MUTUAL ASSISTANCE, Article XNUMX of which reads: "the high contracting parties will jointly take all necessary measures, INCLUDING the TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY of both countries. "
      Russia, like the Union, has never violated its obligations to its allies.
      I believe this direction is covered too. An adventure is possible, but, I think, the price will not suit the aggressor. IMHO.
  17. vanderhaas
    0
    25 January 2014 05: 46
    This same balance of Fukushima in its favor tilts every day. Soon, no living soul pokes from the Pacific Ocean.
  18. 0
    25 January 2014 22: 37
    The article is GOOD BAD ... And there isn’t even anything to comment ... Pindovosovy admiral scares his bosses and congress to shake up funding, and according to the article it seems that pin. Dosos generally come from the Pacific Ocean ... Minus definitely.