Minister Manturov does not want to take the path of correction

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Issuing the undesirable for real - amazing ability of members of the government of Prime Minister Medvedev. Denis Manturov, Minister of Industry and Commerce, perfectly mastered this exercise. Like a circus clown, having received a kick from the president of the country for the strange situation with the airplanes of a Tupolev company, he rolls in his arms with the head of the United Aircraft Building Corporation (UAC) M. Poghosyan in aircraft manufacturing enterprises. In Ulyanovsk, this couple in the assembly shop of the aircraft factory, “under the camera”, to the public, in every way demonstrates a keen interest in correcting something against the background of the abandoned Tu-204 fuselages. Manturov even voiced a work plan - they say, a pool of orders is being formed for an upgraded version of the aircraft.

Stormy activity simulators


And clowns turn into fakirs. The Minister declares:
- We are counting on, among other things, on the state consolidated order, under which around 20 machines will be ordered. Thus, the Tu-204CM, as well as the Kazan Tu-214 will close the niche that MC-21 will take in the future. Its mass production is scheduled for 2017 year.
But what about the order for Tu-204CM from airlines VIM-AVIA and Red Wings? No Four and a half months ago, at the MAKS-2013 aerospace show, these air carriers hardly signed an order for 20 airliners (including the option). With difficulty, because the head of the UAC, Pogosyan, strongly opposed this.

He, in fact, a performer-manufacturer, dictates to the airlines what to take and what to fly with. Do not subscribe to the Dry Superjet 100, do not get anything at all. And subscribe! Is it any wonder when Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin complains doomedly on the Echo of Moscow radio station:
- Dry Superjet, we will definitely bring to mind, - anyway, there is no place to go, we will make this plane normal.

But if you cling to the words of the vice-premier, it turns out that the Superjet is still not a normal airplane. And we, of course, will have normal ones, according to Rogozin, also recalling the MC-21 project:
- With 2015 – 16 we will go to the series “Yakovlev-242”, MS-21. This is a plane that will close a huge segment. And we are doing it with two engines: one version with Pratt-Whitney, North American engines, mainly for export sales. And inside we make a good, new 14-tonne engine, which for us will be a magic wand. Work on Perm Motors is already ending.

He creative bunch Manturov - Pogosyan, apparently, too, like the whole country, confused his head. But while the Yak-242, it is the MC-21 (Main Aircraft of the XXI century), exists in the form of models of individual elements of the liner. And its market, not even the global one - we are talking about domestic airlines - is rapidly taking over Western competitors. Relatively fresh, much less new boeing and erbasy rise and take his place on the airways. It turns out that today, here and now, an aircraft is required that is able to occupy the “throne” of the most demanded segment on 170 – 215 passengers. This is the Tu-204CM.

Just in case, on the eve of the signing of the newspaper’s issue (what if Minister Manturov really went on the way of correction?) I call my friends in Ulyanovsk. They work at Aviastar-SP, a plant designated by UAC as the head of the Tu-204CM.

- Well, - I ask, - after the visit of Manturov and Pogosyan, the work is in full swing?

- What do you believe? Everything, as before, no movement, the low season. By the "carcass" workers do not even fit. It seems that Pogosyan’s unofficial ban on civil works on Tupol’s subject continues to operate.

- This may be associated with the development of a new for the enterprise of the military transport Il-76MD-90А? Almost forty heavy machines for the Ministry of Defense - a huge order, do not want to distract specialists?

- Nonsense. The company is able to start mass production of Tu-204CM without damage to other programs. Moreover, the frames were specially prepared for this.

Who would give these strategists on the head from aviation industry? Or the matter is not at all in the selfish-Pogoshynovsky priority of the “abnormal” Superjet over all other aircraft programs, but in the elementary way finally handing over the Russian main air traffic market to American and European aircraft building corporations? For example, they took the guys to commit themselves, but now you want it or not - follow it. And then overseas partners-curators will ask so that it will not seem a little. This is as an assumption. But, what is terrible, then everything logically builds up: slingshots and obstacles in front of short-medium-range Tu-334 and An-148, artificially delaying work on Tu-204M, the torment of its certification and landing of Tupolev on financial riffles and shoals. Typical wrecking.

There is money!


The only argument of the profile minister and president of the UAC would be the lack of funds for Tupolev (and Ilyushinsky as well) airliners. But how then to relate to the “updated” state program “Development of the aviation industry for 17-2013” published on January 2015? On the Superjet (SSJ ‑ 100) until 2020 will spend 24 billion rubles. So, there is money. Why so much? Is the aircraft already built and in serial production? aviation Expert, Editor-in-Chief, AVIA.RU Network Roman Gusarov explains:

- Development, modernization of the aircraft, even the most successful, require funding. In the development of A320, a European manufacturer invests in Euro 300 million annually. But this is 300 of millions of its own, earned on the sales of А320, and not the state budget. Here we come to the most important thing. Would make a normal plane, well, to hell with him, no one would count how much was spent or stolen. And then neither the aircraft nor the money, and all other projects strangled. And this is no longer a fraud, but, as you say, wrecking. For example, - continues Gusarov, - the Russian-Ukrainian An-148 was made for a penny and not from the Russian budget. It has been flying successfully for a long time and does not ask for any revision. From 17 built An-148 - all in operation. And half of the SuperJets transferred to the customer are crushed with concrete where it is not known, since they are unsuitable for exploitation. It is said that on January 17 in Sheremetyevo four Superjet broke at once. Again, the “Aeroflot” flies only five sides. The newest one, received in the last days of December, flew off only five days, and has been on the ground for two weeks now. As the cars were released with the potential wedge of wing mechanization, they continue to tempt fate. Popular wisdom says: "The clever learns from the mistakes of others, and the fool learns from his own." But in the case of Sukhoi civil aircraft and their teachings do not occur, that’s why great specialists are fleeing GSS, they don’t want to take sin. The aircraft does not reach the stated characteristics either in range, fuel consumption, or other characteristics. Nothing, many already believe, now the state will throw more money from the budget, and those with specialized education will always have a caviar sandwich at our expense. Just over a year ago, I asked one official of the Ministry of Industry and Trade: “Why the annual development program of the aviation industry (including R & D) to the ruble (about 1 billion dollars annually) is indicated, but there is no information on which projects it will go to?” He answered me: “First we will receive financing, and only then we will think how to spend this money.”

Apparently, Manturov and Pogosyan are counting on that nobody will ask for the result. There is also the opportunity to hide behind good indicators for the production of combat aircraft and quite remarkable numbers of helicopter builders.

And the fact that conflicts are blazing near our borders, and Russia, declaring their own strategic interests in the Middle East, in the Arctic, voluntarily or involuntarily drawn into confrontation with the West, the Manturovs do not think. And the first serious dispute will put an end to the exploitation of foreign cars in our country. The State Department of the USA with one stroke of the pen is able to leave without technical support all foreign-made airplanes - Iran is experiencing this to this day. And Superjet will stand in their tracks, for them up to 80% of the components are being brought from abroad. And then with us oh how hard they will talk. If we drop submarines from the stocks, create new missiles and weapons, modernize the army, then we must be ready for such a development. And build your own airliners as much as possible.

In practice, the civilian aviation sector is increasingly deteriorating, losing the ability to develop. What is busy JSC "Tupolev"? With a sin in half, breaking all the time, trying to modernize the long-range missile carriers Tu-160 and Tu-22М3. But any aircraft designer will say - without foundation in the form of civil aircraft, the “Tupolev” firm is doomed. I will never believe that the minister-sociologist Manturov and the president of UAC with a specialized aviation education Pogosyan do not know about this. And most importantly, the passenger Tu-204CM and Tu-334 are quite competitive in modern conditions, there are customers, including foreign ones, in circles. English cab, and that is installed. But it seems that the task of the minister and the head of the KLA is not to provide the country with airplanes, but another. Like the funeral masters.

Damn it - where are you, "United Russia" and the whole "Popular Front"?
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  1. SSR
    +9
    23 January 2014 07: 48
    Unfortunately, we have in the government through one Manturov (at least).
    1. +3
      23 January 2014 07: 50
      And here I noticed an analogy with the F-35, which also cost less at first laughing
      1. -7
        23 January 2014 09: 19
        The article is another vyser of one of Tupolev's fans, who, in turn, is trying hard to grab a freebie from the state.
        Please tell Tupolev Design Bureau that the USSR ended 20 more than a year ago, and that it’s time to get out of the tank ... and make a plane that doesn’t have to be bought, but one that they themselves will order, such as the Interjet ordered SS-100.

        Tu-204 had a chance after an agreement with Iran, but the deal was blocked.
        And the story of blocking supplies to Iran became possible due to the fact that American PW owned blocking stakes in both the developer and manufacturer (in Perm Motor Plant - 25,1% and Aviadvigatel OJSC - 25,06%). After this incident, the shares were bought back from the Americans, and they were shamefully driven out of our engine building. So now you can sell the Tu-204СМ anywhere, even to Iran, even to North Korea. But for some reason they are in no hurry to buy. Probably they are waiting for a much more modern and advanced aircraft, which we will soon have - the Yak-242 (MS-21). The future lies with this new aircraft.

        Conclusion. If the Tu-204 was at least somehow competitive, then they would buy it, and now it is an airplane that is not certified by international standards, which can only carry out domestic flights and is inferior in many respects to existing aircraft and the future MS-21, which it has already built turn. By the way, the MS-21 is YAKOVLEV, so all the screams about the Poghosyan tune The dry time has already been thrown out of my head.
        And good luck to the Tupolevs with PAK YES and with the remaining backlog of the Tu-204, which will still produce 2-3 per year.
        1. Fin
          +4
          23 January 2014 12: 40
          The best answer on Superjet:
          Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin complains doomedly:
          - Dry Superjet, we will certainly bring to mind, - anyway there’s nowhere to go make this plane normal.

          Everyone should do business in accordance with their specialization. You make the best fighters in the world - do it !!! And come on, don’t spray. Why did they give the MC-21 to Yak? Because they do not pull, not their nomenclature. And the second consecutive plan for cutting will not work. For the loot that was swelled into the Superjet, dozens of Carcasses and Ana and Ila would have already flown in dozens. And when budget financing goes into one mug, naturally another falls into decay.
          IMHO. Well thought out plan for cutting huge state. funds.
          For example, the guys took upon themselves obligations, and now if you want to, if you don’t want to, do it. And then the overseas partners-curators will ask so much that it will not seem enough.

          And it would not hurt to check the relevant authorities.
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    2. +5
      23 January 2014 10: 02
      Quote from S.S.R.
      Unfortunately, we have in the government through one Manturov (at least).

      even more regretfully, the rest there are "Poghosyans" ...
      1. VAF
        VAF
        +4
        23 January 2014 15: 22
        Quote: military
        even more regretfully, the rest there are "Poghosyans" ...


        +++! I will only add and all those who "joined" wassat well type sledgehammer102 , so they "dictate". Well, in the sense of "rule" or "lead" ... crying , but where are you going to go ... with Pluka wassat

    3. +3
      23 January 2014 10: 55
      I don’t understand the President, until when will his instructions be ignored by the Mantura and Poghosyans? Or does it suit him? Poghosyan strangles all design and aircraft construction firms, only "Sukhoi" is in favor. How long can this go on?
    4. +6
      23 January 2014 11: 02
      Unfortunately, we have in the government through one Manturov (at least).


      What is even more striking is the fact that President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin has no complaints against the Government!
      Everything is falling apart. In civil aviation, they fly, written off in the West, and already in Africa, "buckets with nuts", which are controlled by "icemen" (aviators know from the word hammer ice), not where they did not study and received fake pilot's licenses. http://news.mail.ru/incident/16609060/?frommail=1
      In the aviation industry, nobody needs superjets, instead of the necessary civil aviation, ANs, TUSheks, ILs.
      And Putin, as always, "everything is fine, beautiful marquise, everything is good, everything is good."
      One gets the impression that Putin is "tied" to someone, by some kind of obligations, by analogy with the obligations of the "EBN family", which does not touch or displace "figures" in the RF Government that harm Russia.
      1. -2
        23 January 2014 11: 39
        Quote: starshina78
        Poghosyan strangles all design and aircraft construction firms, only "Sukhoi" is in favor.


        Therefore, the MS-21 is a project of Yakovlev Design Bureau, and IL-76 transporters are being built for the military, Tupolev was given a PAK YES and an 2-3 aircraft that no one needed was needed for every year (you couldn’t buy at all), we’ll have decks from Migi, and not Su-204 .... Eyes already open. Sukhoi did not lose all international tenders in a row, so he has in the lineup fighters and attack aircraft and civilian aircraft with advanced technologies. You can not say about MiG or Tupolev.

        Quote: vladimirZ
        Everything is falling apart.

        And it can’t fall apart in any way, and the pace of production, whether they are inappropriately, continues to roll up. Enough tolerating this!!!!

        Quote: vladimirZ
        In the aviation industry, nobody needs superjets, instead of the necessary civil aviation, ANs, TUSheks, ILs.

        For so many unnecessary ones that they have a queue for five years ahead and more than 200 firm orders. Why the hell to produce IL, which is not allowed at all airports ??? Or the one that does not have a single international certificate?
        Again! Tell KB Tupolev that the USSR is no longer there and will never have a monopoly on civilian vessels for the domestic market.
        1. +3
          23 January 2014 16: 00
          sledgehammer102 It is a pity that my comment on the site administration did not miss you.
          I have not yet seen a more inadequate, unprofessional and one-sided attitude to the problem under discussion. Who do you work for?
      2. +4
        23 January 2014 11: 57
        Quote: vladimirZ

        What is even more striking is the fact that President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin has no complaints against the Government!

        and what claims can HIM have? ... the "oarsmen" row, the "helmsman" drives ... the galley they have in common ... laughing
    5. +1
      23 January 2014 22: 32
      Quote from S.S.R.
      Unfortunately, we have in the government through one Manturov (at least).


      More likely after 10 non-Manturovs. Not the government, but a branch of the US State Department. Only everything will settle down surely some kind of trap is done ... if it’s not foreign political then two domestic.
  2. +8
    23 January 2014 07: 52
    Manturov learns from a LADY, because he can only "portray" a stormy activity ... After all, the words of the "prime minister" that "The Far East should become a territory of priority development" no more than window dressing.

    "This is what will work there, what is acceptable for us, what is unsafe and what we cannot use - this is the topic of one of my next meetings," added the prime minister.(quotation marks from me feel )
    1. +5
      23 January 2014 08: 02
      Quote: name
      .Because the words of the "prime minister" that "the Far East should become a territory of advanced development" is nothing more than a show.

      Do you think it's so easy to do?
      The article is generally antipogosian and he is to blame for everything. Yes Poghosyan is a pawn on which there is little in the country, which depends.
      1. +7
        23 January 2014 08: 19
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Yes Poghosyan is a pawn on which there is little in the country, which depends.


        Guaranteed - a pawn. Only if as many pawns as possible are eliminated and blocked, then the rest will not really want to get into trouble, and their puppeteers will have to openly show their faces, which is good - you need to know the enemy by sight. So it is necessary to fumble such pawns for the collar periodically - perhaps their masters will be blown out.

        Please note that as soon as we have a plane or something else crashes, all production is declared flawed in all plans, and they demand to close production. But when "Boeings" fall and what is dilapidated - no one talks about the termination of all flights and purchases of these aircraft.
      2. +2
        23 January 2014 09: 30
        And it seemed to me that the article about the Stormy activity of imitators in the person of Manturov and similar ministers ... Probably wrong. belay
      3. +1
        23 January 2014 10: 08
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Yes Poghosyan is a pawn on which there is little in the country, which depends.

        yes ... there is a "queen" in the country ... but, as always ... not in the know and nothing to do with ... feel
    2. +2
      23 January 2014 10: 05
      Quote: name
      "This is what will work there, what is acceptable for us, what is unsafe and what we cannot use - this is the topic of one of my next meetings," added the "prime minister". (Quotes from me)

      "And the topic is very interesting! ... There is something in the nose ..."
      (A. Raikin, monologue "The Bachelor")
  3. +1
    23 January 2014 07: 52
    Unfortunately, in the government and in the administration of the gdp there are no technicians by training in leadership positions, but only managers, social workers, economists and lawyers, and they are, to put it mildly, too far from the people and reality - just words and theory ... . Here and the result.
    1. +1
      23 January 2014 12: 30
      That's just Poghosyan - a graduate of the Moscow Aviation Institute;)
  4. +8
    23 January 2014 07: 52
    "Damn it - where are you, "United Russia" and the whole "Popular Front"?"

    Where where? In Karaganda ... Such minor issues do not interest them. The main thing is to pretend to be turbulent and trample at the trough.
    1. +4
      23 January 2014 08: 45
      Quote: TRex
      "Damn it - where are you, United Russia and the entire People's Front?"

      Where? In Karaganda..

      I think the rhyme here is different.
      1. +3
        23 January 2014 10: 16
        Quote: Vladimirets
        I think the rhyme here is different.

        Not certainly in that way...
        the ex-leader of "EdRa" (he is the current leader of the "ONF") - in the Kremlin apartments ...
        his associates are "in business" ...
        well, and "in Karaganda" (in the future - where "the rhyme is different") - all the rest ... well, the country is moving there too ...
    2. +1
      23 January 2014 10: 10
      Quote: TRex
      The main thing is to pretend to be turbulent and trample at the trough.

      the main thing is to eat hearty from it ...
    3. Fin
      +4
      23 January 2014 12: 14
      Quote: TRex
      Where? In Karaganda...

      Why do you palm off on the Kazakhs political "furniture"? What have they done to you?
  5. makarov
    +7
    23 January 2014 07: 54
    “First we get financing, and only then we will think about how to spend this money.”

    "The strongest thought process", how can funds be allocated for such slogans ??? Paradox!!! If money is issued for these applications, then it is necessary to attract the "allocator" !!!
  6. +1
    23 January 2014 07: 59
    That would be GDP for the words attributed to him to the wall to stick like that: I will chop off the hands of those who will stretch them to Russia. Can it? Can! Wants? ...
  7. +1
    23 January 2014 07: 59
    "To present the unwanted as reality is the amazing ability of members of Prime Minister Medvedev's government" to the point. Still, they would bear personal responsibility for what they did, then there would be at least some consolation, and so a gang-watering can of grabbers
  8. Orakyl
    +1
    23 January 2014 08: 18
    I propose to introduce rules, as I have on the discount. You can’t do it, go away and don’t bother anyone who can. Stop feeding explanations that, they say, it is not in his power, but he is not alone, and you look around, etc. Each person has a task and deadlines. He didn’t refuse, so he agreed to fulfill it, if he knew that you wouldn’t do it and said nothing, it means a saboteur. The action is as follows! checking done in the control period, in the absence of the results of the responsible person in the garden, retirement, in prison, in England .. the main thing is to remove, so that it would not interfere. To appoint those who will clearly and clearly say: I know how to do this and I will do it. Then the upward movement will begin, otherwise the current robots have completely lost their fear.
  9. predator.3
    +5
    23 January 2014 08: 23
    I already wrote once that Medvedev should not be led by the government, but work as a notary, in some kind of St. Petersburg basement, you will issue a will to the grannies!
    1. +2
      23 January 2014 11: 01
      Quote: predator.3
      Medvedev does not lead the government, and work as a notary

      You can’t be his notary public!
      The notary must be honest and weakly bribe)).
      1. +1
        23 January 2014 12: 00
        Quote: ctepx
        You can’t be his notary public! A notary must be honest and weakly bribery))

        a notary should also not be demented ...
  10. +5
    23 January 2014 09: 19
    Quote: predator.3
    I already wrote once that Medvedev should not be led by the government, but work as a notary, in some kind of St. Petersburg basement, you will issue a will to the grannies!


    Grannies will die while he utters out to the end. Who thinks clearly - clearly states. And this, in principle, does not apply to Medvedev.
  11. +4
    23 January 2014 09: 41
    I like the statements that Manturov, Poghosyan did not work for long, so wait, they will turn around! Only the case will approach the turn, and already new in these places. It is rightly said that earlier all the tasks were on the shoulder, and now by ...! And to continue the collapse, it is not necessary to be a pest, it is bad enough to work for the country and do well on yourself.
    Where is our civil aviation? Who will answer as expected, in full? Questions to nowhere ...
  12. +5
    23 January 2014 09: 57
    Do not scold Dmitry Anatolyevich! He has a huge PONT of work!
  13. +1
    23 January 2014 09: 57
    What a name "Superjet"! I wonder if it was ever before in the history of Russia that domestic planes were called in the language of foreign peoples?
    1. -1
      23 January 2014 13: 10
      It wasn’t like. But then they were not particularly sold to other nations;)
  14. +1
    23 January 2014 10: 35
    The fish stinks from the head. It wonders why the government doesn’t resign the GDP. They all openly look to the West as the truth of the first instance. For such a collapse, which they inflicted in aircraft building, shipbuilding, machine tool building, etc. no longer need to disperse, give real terms.
    1. makarov
      +2
      23 January 2014 13: 42
      The fish stinks from the head ..

      No, it rots from the head, and stink, this is a secondary product ...
  15. 0
    23 January 2014 11: 21
    It is strictly necessary to control the allocated funds and their consumption. Then there will be no disappointment. And when the budget is allocated for obscure purposes, WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT? Unclear result, as we have.
  16. evil hamster
    +3
    23 January 2014 11: 23
    About ExpertD Roman Gusarov - how much the ematro-proiotic heart merged in this sound, how much it responded to it ... (forgive me, Sergey Sergeitch for distorting in the bitch.)
    Already so much has been agreed and debated about this, but it’s clear in arguments of the week the guys are stubborn, and money must be worked out. Too lazy, in general, rub the same thing for the hundredth time, but still leave a preventive-therapeutic picture

    bang your head twice a day after meals until enlightenment.
    1. +1
      23 January 2014 13: 13
      And I still have this one to the heap smile
  17. vkrav
    +1
    23 January 2014 11: 49
    Duc, Manturov is not just an "effective manager", he is, well, very "effective"! Medvedkin had no others ...
  18. +2
    23 January 2014 12: 20
    a complete mess because of the personal ambitions of some "masters"
  19. 0
    23 January 2014 12: 37

    But what about the order for the Tu-204CM from the airlines VIM-AVIA and Red Wings? No way. Four and a half months ago, at the aerospace show MAKS-2013, these carriers hardly signed an order for 20 airliners (including an option). With difficulty, because the head of the KLA Poghosyan opposed this in every way. And Tupolev Plaza also probably built Poghosyan.

    He, in fact, a production executive, dictates to airlines what to take and what to fly on. Do not subscribe to the Sukhoi Superjet 100, you won’t get anything at all. And subscribe!

    Pruflinka certainly will not? Of course, it is logical to assume the machinations of Poghosyann (who, as the head of the KLA, is profitable to sell any KLA planes, even the memorable handicrafts of the ANTK), than to assume that the Tupolevs missed the plane and that no one except the state and countries needs an embargo.


    Roman Gusarov explains:

    You can not read further. Striking the ears of deceitful village, poured out by God, Kucherenko, Gusorov and others like them on SSJ 100.
    http://superjet100.info/ - вот, насколько за_бало это сухих. Здесь есть все ответы на ту ЛПП, которая разведена в СМИ. И прулинков там с избытком.
  20. +2
    23 January 2014 13: 30
    Once this kind of activity was defined as sabotage (in Russia - theft - very accurately) and for it they were put up against the wall. These times are now called "... regime". And now, when this is possible, we are considered an underdeveloped democratic state.
  21. -1
    23 January 2014 13: 55
    This is a cheap sketch: it stinks. If Tu aircraft do not buy, then there are reasons. For example, the inability to fly abroad due to the lack of a certificate ...
    And the money, 24 yards, is allocated, including for the creation of an extended version of the SSJ: from 95 to 115 seats. After which, from 2016 they will develop an aircraft with 130 seats ...
    And most importantly, SGJ has a good image abroad thanks to Interjet.
    1. +1
      23 January 2014 15: 39
      Tektor awesome image. The first buyer of Armavia, to whom these cars were imposed for political reasons, had already abandoned them.
      1. 0
        23 January 2014 23: 32
        Armavia went broke to hell, and therefore refused. There was a rather complicated story. Details can be read on Wikidote.
  22. i-gor63
    0
    23 January 2014 14: 26
    Then Poghosyan steers.
  23. +4
    23 January 2014 16: 09
    Today I read a symbolic phrase on the local Transbaikal site:
    - The Prosecutor's Office of Russia demands to recognize the phrase "fight against corruption" as extremist, since it undermines the state foundations.