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Pacific Fleet equipped with Outpost drones

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Aviation Pacific base fleet Kamchatka replenished with six sets of Forpost unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), first-rank captain of the first rank Roman Martov told reporters.


“Several sets of UAVs and a ground control station arrived at the aviation base of the Pacific Fleet in Kamchatka. The squad includes six UAVs of the Forpost, produced domestically, ”he said.
The main purpose of the UAV squadron in Kamchatka will be the search, detection and identification of ground objects, as well as the transfer of information to control centers.

The air base commander, Colonel Andrei Kovalev, noted that the troops in Kamchatka were the first in the Pacific Fleet where a BLA squad was formed. The entire staff of the new unit has already completed a course at the air base in Kubinka near Moscow.

Let's find out about these UAVs in more detail:



Despite the fact that the UAVs are created by domestic specialists, the “Outpost” is not fully Russian. The fact is that on UZGA work according to the schemes and drawings, which in the framework of the sensational contract was provided by the very Israeli side - the company IAI Ltd. In addition to the drawings, the Israelis handed over to the Ural enterprise control and test stands, training and technological equipment. In other words, Zastava and Outpost are Israeli drones that have received Russian names on Russian territory and are assembled by Russian workers. Zastava is nothing more than the BirdEye 400 UAV, and the Outpost is the Searcher MkII.

It would seem that rejoicing in such a “screwdriver assembly” of foreign UAVs is not worth it. But the defense industrial complex Oboronprom has a different opinion. Based on the experimental models of Israeli UAVs in the Urals, it is planned in the near future to create its own drone, which in its characteristics will surpass many of the existing analogues. How fast will this future be? - there is no answer to this question yet. But there is an answer to what type the new Russian drone can belong to.



According to the representative of the holding company “Helicopters of Russia”, this will be a helicopter-type unmanned drone, possibly a multi-rotor. While the holding does not reveal the details of the new drone, but they talk about possible problems. One of the challenges that developers will have to tackle is that a helicopter-type UAV requires a relatively flat landing ground (and the plan of developers for landing drone for military purposes, including the enemy’s rear, is included). To solve this problem, it will be possible to apply a semblance of a gyroscopic system capable of maintaining equilibrium even at relatively large angles of inclination. At the same time, we should not forget about reducing the specific noise from several screws.

In the meantime, Russian specialists are puzzled over how to modernize Israeli drones and create their own unmanned reconnaissance and combat aircraft complexes, the armies of other countries of the world use UAVs very actively. Not so long ago, the Americans spread information that their drones had succeeded in destroying a whole militant camp in Pakistan. An air strike was inflicted on the bases of representatives of al-Qaeda (at least, representatives of the command of the US Army say so) in the province of North Waziristan. Shortly before that (last Sunday) a group of militants in the Pakistani province of South Waziristan was destroyed with the help of an American UAV air strike. The Americans then counted 9 killed, who were immediately dubbed representatives of the Taliban movement.



Pakistani authorities have repeatedly expressed disapproval of the actions of Americans in the airspace of their country. The fact is that official reports on the performance of combat operations by the US military do not always coincide with the data provided by the Pakistanis. It often happens that an American drone strikes a group of militants, and women and children are killed and wounded ... However, not a single American UAV operator, at the signal of which the missile was launched at civilians, has not yet been justly punished. Most often, it all comes down to the fact that the Americans admit their guilt, claiming a fatal and unintended error. And who can even check: was it a mistake or a conscious action? Certainly not the Pakistani authorities, even if they want to initiate such a check ...

Information about the use of UAVs with intelligence functions comes from the Far East (not Russian). Tokyo and Beijing almost simultaneously announced that they were creating special groups of drones that would be ready to monitor the territory of the disputed Senkaku Islands (Diaoyudao) day and night, as well as the waters that these islands washed around. Intelligence will be conducted with the aim of witnessing a possible "invasion" of the territory of the islands by their opponent. Neither Tokyo nor Beijing have yet spoken about what measures the parties to the conflict are prepared to take in the event of a “invasion” being recorded. But if it comes to real conflict, the world can witness the first large-scale confrontation of drones from different states.



The assembly of systems with UAVs is carried out under a contract that was concluded in 2010 between OPOR Oboronprom and the Israeli company Israel Aerospace Industries Ltd (IAI). According to this contract, the Israeli side handed over the necessary technical documentation, technological equipment, test and test benches and training complexes. Israel Aerospace Industries Ltd also supplies components and assemblies and conducts training of UZGA technical personnel. The production technology of the UAV conforms to requirements of the Russian regulatory and technological documents.

Israel Aerospace Industries is an Israeli concern founded in 1953 year. It is a well-known company of the Israeli military industrial complex, one of the leading technological and industrial companies in Israel. Engaged in the production of aircraft and avionics, the production of instruments and equipment for space satellites, communications and intelligence, modernizing aircraft around the world. The company has received worldwide recognition as a leader in the development of aviation and aerospace technology in the military and civilian markets. IAI is one of the world's leading developers and manufacturers of UAVs, some of them have no analogues in the world practice of aviation.

IAI E-HUNTER - tactical reconnaissance UAV;
IAI HARPY - anti-radar UAV;
IAI RANGER - tactical reconnaissance UAV;
IAI Scout - tactical reconnaissance UAV;
IAI SEARCHER - tactical reconnaissance UAV;
IAI SEARCHER II - tactical reconnaissance UAV;
IAI, RUAG, Oerlikon ADS 95 RANGER - reconnaissance UAV;
IAI Heron - long-range reconnaissance UAV;
Ghost - ultra small tactical reconnaissance UAV.



During the implementation of the contract, the defense industrial complex Oboronprom received unique competences in the field of mastering industrial production technologies of modern UAV systems. In the future, the practical experience gained will allow the corporation to increase the level of localization of the production of these systems by attracting components and assemblies of domestic production.



I recall that:
In April, 2009 of the Year, Russia acquired the BirdEye-12 drone, I-View Mk400 and Searcher II drone drivers from Israel for a total of 150 million dollars. Later, a contract was signed to supply 53 drone worth one hundred million dollars, and in April 36 of the year it became known about the purchase of another 2010 UAV from Israel.



But the summary table for modern drone:


Sources:
http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20140116/989529788.html
http://topwar.ru/22883-bespilotniki-pokoryayut-nebo.html
http://pro-samolet.ru/blog-pro-samolet/553-uavs-forpost-and-zastava-are-tested
http://twower.livejournal.com/622126.html
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    1. Civil
      Civil 22 January 2014 08: 18
      +5
      At the bottom of the pivot table ... why did the kid sit down under a tree? Serdyukov on a logging smoke? And who will fulfill the norm ?!
      1. Ptah
        Ptah 22 January 2014 08: 38
        +3
        Quote: Civil
        crouched boy under a tree?

        I would suggest that for the sake of clarity of size.
        Then what kind of breed? It can be a two-hundred-year-old sequoia, and a "kid" Valuev, or a pygmy child under a dwarf bonsai.
        You need to be precise in everything ... laughing
  2. mirag2
    mirag2 22 January 2014 08: 16
    +1
    Ahhhh ...
    Junk boiled for us by Israel.
    You can’t believe him, I don’t understand what idiot it occurred to him to invite Israel to the CU as a carrier of high technologies — he is an ally of the United States, then an ally of NATO, then we are the enemy, and what technologies do you want from him?
    You won’t get anything for any money. They won’t sell it.
    They say that junk is all.
    It’s just that we have our own Jewish lobby, or rather, those who are involved in corruption schemes with Israeli firms, and who don’t care what Russia buys, just to grab their share and live in another country.
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 22 January 2014 08: 34
      +5
      Quote: mirag2
      You can’t believe him, I don’t understand what idiot it occurred to him to invite Israel to the CU as a carrier of high technologies — he is an ally of the United States, then an ally of NATO, then we are the enemy, and what technologies do you want from him?

      Just yesterday, a transmission on the possibilities of electronic equipment in the field of espionage passed through the box.
      Moreover, without the knowledge of the user.
      Where is the guarantee that the Jews will not stuff the filling with "beetles" that will collect information, and the Jews will sell it. Who? Yes to the one who gives more ...
      1. Rustam
        Rustam 22 January 2014 11: 50
        +2
        Junk boiled for us by Israel.


        Create something like a setter for opportunities! some have already created, having shoved 5 billion rubles in their pockets; this can also be provided to great-grandchildren.

        Ptah
        The program on the possibilities of electronic equipment in the field of espionage was held


        Not tired yet? About bookmark bugs and most importantly forgot about a fairy tale about a one-time shutdown of Iraq's air defense in 1991-less than Mamontov
        See



        As for the setter, at one time when I spoke for him 2 years ago, there were screams that this UAV is out of control and goes out of control and flies where they say it from behind the hill

        so 2 years have passed
        - our so far have not been able to create anything intelligible or even come closer to the setter
        -naturally MO supplies and buys Setchers because at least they are no match for the traitors and rippers, but compared to our crafts, it is like earth and sky, as well as those that are rolled around in other countries

        At the moment, the best blah on performance characteristics and reliability, as it is unfortunate

        And the main thing that inspires optimism and hope. Based on the experimental models of Israeli UAVs in the Urals, it is planned to create your own UAV in the near future, which will surpass many of its existing counterparts in its characteristics - you need to learn and adopt
      2. rolik2
        22 January 2014 13: 26
        +2
        Quote: Ptah
        Where is the guarantee that the Jews will not stuff the filling with "beetles" that will collect information, and the Jews will sell it. Who? Yes to the one who gives more ...


        Well, even if they are stuffed with it (although they sell drones to dozens of different countries and there were no complaints about "stuffing"), how will they shoot information?
        And who will she be interested in? Arabs? The Chinese?
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 22 January 2014 08: 37
      11
      Quote: mirag2
      he is an ally of the United States, then an ally of NATO, then we are an enemy

      Do you know a joke about logic? Well, this is where: bear, do you have matches? No? So you're impotent. All of our people are doing the right thing, in UAVs we are behind the advanced countries, we can buy ready-made products and then create our own designs on its basis to give birth to the torment of our brainchild. And we got technologies that work, and UAVs in the troops, is that bad? Chinese method in action.
      1. il grand casino
        il grand casino 22 January 2014 10: 30
        +1
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Quote: mirag2
        he is an ally of the United States, then an ally of NATO, then we are an enemy

        Do you know a joke about logic? Well, this is where: bear, do you have matches? No? So you're impotent. All of our people are doing the right thing, in UAVs we are behind the advanced countries, we can buy ready-made products and then create our own designs on its basis to give birth to the torment of our brainchild. And we got technologies that work, and UAVs in the troops, is that bad? Chinese method in action.

        So it seems there are only two bought, the rest we collect. By the way, who knows if there are any differences from the IAI Searcher II? In addition to the assembly, of course.
    3. Retx
      Retx 22 January 2014 08: 49
      -3
      Jews do not sell? What good stories, go on. lol
  3. pensioner
    pensioner 22 January 2014 08: 23
    +3
    In other words, the Outpost and Outpost are Israeli drones that have received Russian names on Russian territory and are being assembled by Russian workers.
    Yes, let them be ... And let's hope that this is their last gesheft ...
  4. Tarpon
    Tarpon 22 January 2014 08: 25
    +4
    We still have to work and work on drones.
  5. ZU-23
    ZU-23 22 January 2014 08: 25
    +4
    Well, at least we are working on our drones, but for now, we’ll collect the Israeli ones for ourselves.
  6. shuhartred
    shuhartred 22 January 2014 08: 39
    +1
    I am not an expert, so I want to ask two questions to knowledgeable people (I know a lot of them on this forum) 1. How realistic is it to take control of a UAV? 2. If the control channel is "jammed" with interference, what happens?
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 22 January 2014 08: 46
      0
      Quote: shuhartred
      How realistic is it to take control of a UAV?

      This is the TS. "the weakest link" and the most secret. Top-secret avionics and engines.
      In general, with the developed cyber technology - it is also possible from a laptop, a bespectacled student, who has sat in the bushes.
      1. shuhartred
        shuhartred 22 January 2014 09: 21
        0
        Quote: Ptah
        In general, with the developed cyber technology - it is also possible from a laptop, a bespectacled student, who has sat in the bushes.

        This is what I was afraid of. A herd of shock drones will be released, and whoever poked a hello with a finger and hello worked on their own and fell down amicably. Thanks for the answer, but what about the second question?
        1. Ptah
          Ptah 22 January 2014 09: 33
          +1
          Quote: shuhartred
          what about the second question?

          And then the banal "escalation of weapons".
          Everything is like creating different rubbish for PC or smart. Some come up with an attack method, while others come up with a defense method. It is in that order. Otherwise, it is impossible to PROTECT from something that, in principle, has not met.
          Well, maybe some breakthrough technology by cipher will be invented, but no one should even guess about it, so as not to start working in this direction too.
          I repeat - this is t.c. "the weakest link" and the most secret.
          1. shuhartred
            shuhartred 22 January 2014 10: 45
            +1
            Quote: Ptah
            Otherwise, it is impossible to PROTECT from something that, in principle, has not met.

            Yes, I'm not talking about a way of protection, but about what will happen. Lost control (external), what will happen to the drone? Will fall? Self-eliminating? Will return to base? Will it work on the last command? What?
            1. savarineko
              savarineko 22 January 2014 11: 26
              +2
              It depends on what is included in the drone program, the program may be different. But what "Will Fall" is vryatli. Usually, drones are configured to return, which can be used to capture the drone (replace the coordinates of the return point).
              1. shuhartred
                shuhartred 22 January 2014 15: 09
                +1
                Quote: savarineko
                Usually drones set to return

                Thanks for the answer hi .Tut someone minus but okay. Why am I asking, actually, it just seems to me that it is technically easier to clog communication channels than to take control. So it became interesting, but what will he do if this happens? Are drones able to operate independently? Like "find all the strangers and destroy." Do we need to fight them somehow, or can we safely exclude them from the battle picture?
                1. Ptah
                  Ptah 22 January 2014 19: 02
                  +1
                  Quote: shuhartred
                  Clogging communication channels is technically easier than taking control.

                  One does not interfere with the other, or rather different methods.
                  Quote: shuhartred
                  Are drones capable of acting independently?

                  Only with specific tasks, otherwise the design (flight weight, weapons, etc.) and the possibility of a larger number of channel scans become more complicated.
                  Quote: shuhartred
                  Do we have to deal with them somehow, or can you safely exclude them from the picture of the battle?

                  You need to fight them and you can. But not only by direct clash with similar drones or pilot-controlled aircraft, but from the ground (water).
                  Or by electronic warfare (electronic equipment), or a firearm.
                  It is necessary to improve the automatic detection and destruction (if necessary), by installing along the perimeter of the stations.
                  As well as mobile high-precision long-range complexes on the car chassis.
                  1. shuhartred
                    shuhartred 23 January 2014 13: 50
                    +1
                    Quote: Ptah
                    It is necessary to improve the automatic detection and destruction (if necessary), by installing along the perimeter of the stations.
                    As well as mobile high-precision long-range complexes on the car chassis.

                    All the question is closed. All who participated in the education thank you very much. hi I've got a hundred grams and a donut. drinks
                2. And Us Rat
                  And Us Rat 23 January 2014 13: 55
                  -1
                  Quote: shuhartred
                  Are drones able to operate independently? Like "find all strangers and destroy" ...

                  Already capable, but for political reasons this function is not used.
              2. And Us Rat
                And Us Rat 23 January 2014 13: 53
                -1
                Quote: savarineko
                change the coordinates of the return point ...

                ... impossible, for this you need simultaneously - get on a frequency of communications jumping several tens of times per second according to a predetermined algorithm, crack 256 bit encodings of the 2 communication channels, and also identify and neutralize a dozen hidden security algorithms (starting from the elementary order of command transmission, expected signal arrival azimuth, change algorithms after a predetermined period of time, etc.)
      2. rolik2
        22 January 2014 13: 31
        +5
        Quote: Ptah
        possibly from a laptop, a bespectacled student, who sat in the bushes.

        And only on condition that that bespectacled student has a transceiver capable of working with UAV control signals and know the codes by which all exchange traffic is closed.
        And so yes, any nerd can control a UAV laughing
    2. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 23 January 2014 13: 49
      0
      Quote: shuhartred
      I am not an expert, so I want to ask two questions to knowledgeable people (I know a lot of them on this forum) 1. How realistic is it to take control of a UAV? 2. If the control channel is "jammed" with interference, what happens?

      1. The chance of this to strive for 0, for this you need simultaneously - get on a frequency of communications jumping several tens of times per second according to a predetermined algorithm, crack 256 bit encodings of the 2 communication channels, and also identify and neutralize a dozen hidden security algorithms (starting from the elementary order of command transmission, expected signal arrival azimuth, change algorithms after a predetermined period of time, etc.)
      2. The program will return on autopilot to the take-off point or base point.
  7. kirieeleyson
    kirieeleyson 22 January 2014 08: 42
    +1
    Well, I don’t understand why you can’t make your glider at least, 5 years have passed, no less. Otherwise, there are also a lot of questions, but can you implement your general concept?
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 22 January 2014 10: 42
      +1
      Yes, the matter is not just in the glider, but in its filling.
      We need small-sized, economical engines with a low noise level - times.
      We need high-quality optics with modern electronics - two.
      Well, the means of communication, of course not on lamps with an octal base, with sufficient power and high-quality noise immunity.
      1. shuhartred
        shuhartred 22 January 2014 18: 20
        0
        Quote: Starover_Z
        Well, communications, of course, not on lamps with an octal base,

        Unmanned IL-96 with a tube filling, absolutely not afraid of EMR and not responding to modern electronic warfare equipment, and even with a bomb load of 30 tons. This plane would have turned out. Sorry big too. Shoot down is easy.
  8. Lerpigiorry
    Lerpigiorry 22 January 2014 08: 45
    -2
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  9. Wiruz
    Wiruz 22 January 2014 09: 09
    0
    Of course, the fact that the drones are not purely Russian is depressing, but still, the news is not bad. Soon, a couple of reconnaissance UAVs will probably be placed on the Kuza.
  10. KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 22 January 2014 09: 11
    +3
    I think Israeli ground closed critical places. The drone is never old - either it performs its task or not.

    I think that Russia, which produces planes, and of course autopilots, and of course optical systems, will not be difficult to produce their own, moreover, having dealt with Israeli devices.

    The difficulty, I think so far, is that they do not know how much and how much drones are needed.
  11. Krokodilych
    Krokodilych 22 January 2014 09: 18
    0
    For large drones there is a backlog. But for small and medium - we read the article as early as 2011 (!!!) years and draw conclusions.

    https: //oko-planet.su/politik/politikarm/81142-ravil_7384b3-sravnenie-rossiyskih-
    i-izrailskih-bpla-s-tochki-zreniya-ekspluatanta.html
  12. Stiletto
    Stiletto 22 January 2014 09: 24
    0
    I won’t say anything about drones themselves, but the concept of their use by Americans is touching: bombs, whom God sends, and then we say that it is Al Qaeda.
  13. VADEL
    VADEL 22 January 2014 09: 48
    +2
    Quote: Crocodilech
    For large drones there is a backlog.

    The largest drone was in the USSR, "BURAN" was his name. Ruined in the bud. Now we cannot create our own "booger". All this is gloomy.
  14. frame5
    frame5 22 January 2014 09: 55
    +2
    As mentioned earlier, the Israeli drone.
    It made me laugh, today we are assembling other people's equipment from components, and tomorrow we will build our own and have no meta tag!
  15. iulai
    iulai 22 January 2014 10: 00
    +2
    This demagogue Sergey Ivanov, being the Minister of Defense, recognized the BP as not promising, and refused them. And now, shame, we’ll buy from Israel! And why do we launch astronauts, how much I live, but the country is of no use to them! For a long time, about 30 years ago, there was talk that robots would fight in the Third World, and in general, whoever serves in our General Staff seems to me to be idiots, we constantly lag behind the Yankees, if in technology, then okay. Are we lagging behind in ideas, in fresh thoughts, that they did not know that BP was engaged in the west? If they knew and did not pay due attention, then they are fools or traitors! And if you didn’t know, then the people feed this army in vain!
  16. avg
    avg 22 January 2014 10: 25
    0
    If the Chinese and the Japanese do not calm down, then we will soon see an analogue of the 1st world in unmanned aircraft. Rams - shotguns - machine guns - rockets. Although they will begin, most likely, by trapping each other with the use of electronic warfare.
  17. kelevra
    kelevra 22 January 2014 10: 25
    -1
    It is very pleasing that we do not stand still in this area!
  18. anarky
    anarky 22 January 2014 11: 25
    0
    Personally, I like American traitors more. Although who will sell them to us.
  19. alone
    alone 22 January 2014 19: 00
    +2
    These drones were put into service in Israel in 1998. Now there are already armed with even more modern types of BLPA. And those old developments are simply sold to customers. All work very productively.
    All the same, it’s better than throwing an old project into a landfill. And those who don’t know, I’ll say that Russia bought a license for the production of these Blops for $ 300 million (or almost 10 billion rubles)

    PS and what about those who "ruined" 5 billion for the development of their own BLPA? provided themselves for life!
    1. My yo
      My yo 22 May 2015 20: 16
      0
      Information from the wiki.
      Well, malad, what to say.