Siberian frosts over the ruins of Ford’s factories

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The landing operation of the “General Frost” in the Great American Lakes region is not exceptional. Something like that, for years not complete 200, the north of the United States has seen several times. Niagara Falls was completely frozen in 1848, 1912 and 1932. These natural phenomena were not particularly affected by the US economy. If 1948 and 1932. these are years of severe economic crises, then 1912, on the contrary, the year of economic growth of 1910-1913. Accordingly, it is not the climate phenomenon itself that is important, but its imposition on the actual economic situation. It is over this real position of the US physical economy in 2014 that dark clouds will begin to gather.

The past 2013 has become the year of the end of the “false spring”, which began around 2009. All processes and phenomena that are positive for the physical economy of the United States have been skillfully cultivated or, alternatively, concocted in a hurry during 2013 have exhausted themselves. The first and possibly the greatest loss for the White House administration was the complete exhaustion of the stimulating effect of the programs of “quantitative easing of monetary policy.” Further printing of trillions of green pieces of paper is fraught with a breakthrough in hyperinflation on consumer markets. On the other hand, this breakthrough is inevitable and is only a matter of time. After the breakthrough of the ice of Niagara Falls inevitably followed by flooding. Taking into account that the charismatic and iconic figures of A. Greenspan and B. Bernanke are replaced by the unknown “muddy 67 summer aunt” Janet Yellen, then the case clearly smells like a switchman. This suspicion reinforces the fact that in 2013 the US Federal Reserve has become the main buyer of the White House’s debt obligations.

“What is the result? During the past fiscal year (2012 / 2013), the federal budget deficit, according to preliminary estimates, amounted to 680 billion dollars. For the first time in the last five years, the budget deficit was significantly reduced: it was below the trillion dollar threshold. We assume that "non-market “borrowing in the past fiscal year accounted for 25% coverage of the budget deficit. Then we’ll get that with the help of treasury bills approximately 500 billions of dollars in the growth of public debt for the past financial year were covered. For the same past year, according to the third program of the COP, 45 billion dollars X 12 = 540 billion dollars were purchased. In fact, as the Fed’s statistics show, the Treasury buyout from the Federal Reserve during the past fiscal year was lower than planned and was on average 40 billions of dollars a month.

It turns out that almost the entire increase in US public debt in the past fiscal year was “closed” by the third program of the COP, that is, the “printing press” of the Fed. ”Such a rampage of unlimited joy cannot last forever. The “quantitative easing” policy has crossed its point of no return. The water was over and kerosene was let into the fire hydrants. This is the unequivocal end of Reaganomics. All mechanisms of credit and emission pumping demand in the dollar zone are exhausted. Then everything is like in the song - “We know that there are only two ways: Ja Rastafar or War.”

The second most unpleasant event for the USA for 2013 was the loss of the role of the world's largest economy. If in January 2013 only the Bloomberg agency issued a mouse squeak about the loss of the US position of the largest trading power, then at the end of 2013 this news bypassed all the news feeds.

“The turnover of China’s foreign trade increased by 7,6% last year. The trade surplus was 259,75 billion dollars. Exports rose by 7,9% - to 2,21 trillion dollars, imports - by 7,3%, to 1,95 trillion dollars.

The total US trade turnover for 11 last month was 3,53 trillion dollars. Data for the whole year, the US Department of Commerce has not yet published, but for December, the figure will have to double the data for the same month 2012 of the year to regain the lead. ”With the frankly strange“ services ”out of turnover, the United States will look sad. No “knowledge economy” has taken place. Dream ship crashed on life. A Chinese man collecting iPhones is much more useful than an American playing on the stock exchange's totalizator. Patience and a little effort. Against this background, the idea that with a smaller population and a smaller turnover, the US economy can remain the world's largest net ufology. On the similarity of the one that exude HSE and NES. For the first time, the United States receives such a sensitive blow to its “image” of the navel of the earth. From here it is understandable and completely hysterical statement of the Nobel Peace Prize laureate, the hope of all democratic humanity, the first black president of the free world Barack Obama about the American “exclusivity”. Previously, only Europe was turning to fascism in times of crisis. Apparently the European "values" really walk the planet.

The third negative trend in 2013 was the passing of the peak of return from the shale revolution. The prices for shale gas having touched the bottom have switched to a monotonous increase. Despite the official ban on the export of crude oil from the United States and the de facto ban on the export of natural gas, all the positive effects of the Dick Cheney law package (removing hydraulic fracturing from the water resources protection law), the first successful IPO of shale companies and total government spending subsoil intelligence exhausted itself. The most successful deposits have already been shared, the money from the IPO has been eaten, all the equipment stored in the warehouses has already been put into action. Ahead are only environmental problems and the rapidly falling returns of shale wells.

“Natural gas prices in the United States at 2013 fluctuate at $ 4 per million British Thermal Units (BTU). Shell predicts that the long-term cost of natural gas in the United States will range from $ 4 to $ 6 per million BTU *.

Taking into account the cost of importing LNG, American gas will flow to Europe at $ 8-10 prices, which is comparable to European gas prices, which have remained at $ 8-11 in the past few years. ”

In general, the export of LNG from the USA to Europe is absolutely fantastic. Possible only in an exceptional situation of a complete failure of the White House program on the re-industrialization of the economy. Since only extremely low domestic prices for electricity and gas can act as a driving force for this program. The resource growth rate of consumer activity of the population through the credit increase in demand (and the load on one consumer) was expended in the Cold War. Resource removal of energy-intensive industries in the third world countries and China spent more under Nixon for the same purposes. The resource for integrating China into the technological zone of the USA is spent on 1980, 1990 and 2000. The Fed is an actual bankrupt. The truth was another resource, but more on that later. The second obstacle to the export of natural gas from the United States is its low EROEI (Energy Return On Energy Invested). Return Ratio. In shale gas, it is the lowest of all industrially significant forms of energy. Moreover, it is at the level below which the degradation of infrastructure is inevitable. In shale gas, EROEI is somewhere in the 5 area, possibly 10, and in conventional natural gas, around 25. At the same time shale gas is much lower in quality. It gives less energy per unit volume. There are many impurities in it, which are very expensive to clean. It is even unprofitable to pump it into trunk pipelines. The shale gas market is local consumers. To liquefy shale gas for export is pure madness. This means that despite all the successes of the shale revolution, only natural gas from conventional fields can be exported. What is pure madness, since ordinary natural gas has a much greater EROEI. If you start exporting it, it will inevitably reduce the overall US EROEI. Energy efficiency of the economy. The action is absolutely impossible without the beginning of the processes of internal decay. From this, it is clear why the Japanese Prime Minister, who asked the USA for LNG (liquefied natural gas), was sent in a rough form, and energy exports from the USA to Europe are limited exclusively to natural coal. This trend will inevitably continue in 2014g.

The fifth negative trend was formed precisely in 2013. This event was laid down a very long time ago. At the time of signing the CNB-1 agreement, but like the famous ring of omnipotence, it was waiting in the wings. Like any event embedded in another historical reality, it is completely outside the political will and managerial capabilities of the modern US leadership. As the saying goes, the US economy made a very bad sound in its very depths.

“The USEC Inc. energy company, which produces uranium, plans to file for bankruptcy at the beginning of 2014. This is stated in the message of the enterprise, published December 16. In the United States, USEC runs the only uranium enrichment plant. ”

If this event happened, it would be possible to panic and make management decisions in the spirit of Adolf Aloizovich, but it was not just one. In December, 2013 ended the HEU-LEU program. Agreement on the supply of weapons-grade uranium to the USSR in the form of depleted (diluted to 5%) uranium to US nuclear power plants. In total, this program included the supply of 500 tons of weapons-grade uranium in 20 years from 1993 to 2013. Despite all the US diplomatic efforts, this program has not been extended. To V.V. Putin can of course be treated differently, but he definitely worked out his free lunches in the Kremlin canteen. The process of plundering the economic heritage of the USSR ended. In general, the HEU-LEU program provided approximately 50% of the needs of 104 American reactors, which in turn provided approximately 20% of the US-generated electricity. From this it follows that Russia provided 10% of US energy consumption for almost 20 years on a gratuitous basis. Or two full years.

Any parasitism inevitably leads to the degradation of the parasite. Be it the Caucasus subsidized by 90% or those sitting on the Soviet uranium needle of the USA. In wildlife, only in parasites does evolution reverse. They are always simpler than their original forms. So the United States so far they intravenously consumed Soviet weapons Uranium The only uranium enrichment plant did not fit into the market. And the true problem is not even that. Yes, it wasn’t a wrong decision in the distant 1940s when the United States made a bid for the gas diffusion technology of uranium enrichment, which is very expensive from the point of view of EROEI, and did not turn back from this path. Not that the USSR in the 1970s allowed the United States (at the peak of the oil crisis) not to build new enrichment plants, stopping the growth in the number of warheads and not even in the quiet degradation of American enrichment facilities in the 1990s and 2000s. The problem is much deeper. Today, the United States is faced with the issue of making a breakthrough similar to what the USSR did in the 1950s and 1960s, bypassing the United States several times in terms of the capacity of enrichment plants and by an order of magnitude of EROEI uranium enrichment process. The task of designing and creating fast neutron reactors similar to the Soviet-Russian BN-600 and BN-800 is superimposed on this. This is unavoidable because natural uranium with high EROEI mining is running out.

Only this is not all. Soviet weapons-grade uranium turned out to be pure poison for the US physical economy. Like heroin for a drug addict. Soviet weapons-grade uranium was developed in the Soviet technological zone. In those days when the world was divided into two systems of division of labor (in fact, the term system of unification of labor is much more accurate). Soviet miners took uranium from the ground, carried Soviet trolleys, Soviet trucks and Soviet railway cars on Soviet rails. Enriched this uranium on the Soviet centrifuges that spin the Soviet hydroelectric power plants. The share of energy consumption for this uranium in the technological zone of the USA (and global today) is close to absolute zero. Due to this, the Soviet weapons-grade uranium supplied by 20 to American nuclear power plants for years has not been physically achievable in the modern economy EROEI. Neither now nor in the foreseeable future. It was a direct delivery of heroin to pleasure centers. And it is over.

Uranium supplied under the HEU-LEU program is approximately 10% of all US electricity and the source of transcendental EROEI for the entire physical economy. Since this program is over, a negative shift EROEI for the US economy is provided. If we put on this the strange ideas of exporting ordinary natural gas and domestic consumption of shale gas (with an extremely low EROEI), then a blow to the physical economy can be critical. The main dove of peace called the Pentagon is already preparing to sit in the nest.

“The reduction in the US defense budget forced us to almost halve the number of flight hours, many pilots fly only 120 hours per year (an hour costs on average 20 thousand dollars), according to January aereo.jor.br 9.”

The sixth problem arises from the fifth and from the theory of technological zones of Oleg Grigoriev. In 2013, the legacy of the Soviet technological zone was finally eaten. Moreover, it was eaten not by the United States, but by the entire technological zone led by the United States. China has nowhere else to take for nothing priceless drawings and technologies for the development of fighter aircraft and aircraft carriers. The former USSR turned into a technological desert. In Russia, the volume of rail traffic and the amount of electricity consumed by 2013g fell (although this is largely due to abnormally warm winters). Ukraine physical bankrupt without 15 billion Russian loan. In the former CMEA countries, the industry is simply annihilated. It was preserved only in the Czech Republic due to the physical inclusion in the German one. In the Polish shipyards that gave birth to “Solidarity” and Lech Walesa, the field rolls are walking. For the first time in 2014, the world's only technological zone is waiting for adult life. USSR inheritance eaten.

The seventh negative trend in the US economy stems from the economic course of the White House administration, the peak of oil production, taking into account EROEI, the drop in EROEI oil in most fields and the structure of the US oil flow. Obviously, from the point of view of EROEI, the oil sands of Canada and the heavy oil of Venezuela are far from flowing gold from Texas. Oil with EROEI ~ 50 of the Cold War era is now a pipe dream. The Orinoco heavy oil tanker contains less energy than a light oil tanker. To process heavy oil into gasoline and diesel you need to expend more energy. Including in the form of equipment. What you need to spend or oil or electricity. In any case, this means that the tanker brought less gasoline, which can pour a simple Bill into its gas tank, and therefore more tankers are needed, more terminals, more refineries ...

The obvious way out is the massive construction of oil refineries in oil-producing countries and their export of petroleum products. This trend is already evident. For example, in Russia there is a massive construction and re-equipment of oil refineries, and in the coming years, problems with internal overproduction of petroleum products are expected. At the same time, the government pursues a policy of promoting the export of petroleum products. Similar processes are underway in most oil-producing countries except those to which they have recently exported democracy.

Siberian frosts over the ruins of Ford’s factories

Only this does not solve the problems of the United States with a sharp drop in EROEI. Since the new equipment for the refinery of Qatar and Saudi Arabia must be produced in the same technological zone. For example, oil refining equipment must be manufactured in the USA and delivered to Saudi Arabia. In terms of the entire process area, this can generally degrade the EROEI. There is only one way out for the United States: squeeze out energy suppliers to another technological zone and consume energy that has been cleansed of energy. Thereby increasing internal EROEI in its technological area. What puts the USA in front of the need to destroy a single global technological zone. This process has already begun. Exports of crude oil are banned from the United States and liquefied gas exports are prohibited de facto. Exporting enriched uranium from the United States is simply unthinkable.

A very successful technology and information company with shale gas (and oil) pushed domestic production in the United States. At least allowed to avoid a strong fall. Better gas with ERORI 5 than half the country without work. That part of the adventure where the money from the IPO of the “slate revolutionaries” was infused into the cost of gas produced is so simply ingenious. Only this pie has been eaten and obviously this is not enough for a powerful re-industrialization program. We need new, more radical moves. Especially against the background of a general decline in EROEI of the US economy as a result of an increase in the share of shale gas and the termination of the HEU-LEU program. If we reject absolutely fantastic scenarios or outright nonsense in the spirit of the preachers of HSE and NES, then the United States needs a powerful breakthrough in the field of uranium enrichment technologies on centrifuges and the construction of fast neutron breeders. I wonder whether the United States is capable of such a jerk? With the current leadership, this is almost unbelievable. So we are waiting for the inevitable collapse of a single global technological zone. Neither the bitcoins nor the gold yuan will stop this and life will not return to the frozen workshops of Ford’s factories in Detroit.
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  1. +19
    17 January 2014 13: 40
    Soviet weapons-grade uranium turned out to be pure poison for the US physical economy.

    They wanted, as trickier, now it will turn out, as always.
    1. +34
      17 January 2014 18: 38
      And this is at their home in the current cold

      And on the street

      Homeless nigga feel sorry


      They write that the abnormal cold in the United States sharply boosted gas and electricity prices (Financial Times). One of the suppliers of gas to New York for short-term contracts raised the price by almost 7 times. And spot electricity prices in Texas jumped up 190 times in a few hours.

      Well. And here the liberals scoffed at Andrey Parshev, the author of the book "Why Russia is not America", where he tied the comfort for the economy to the climatic isobar. And our liberals are poking us hard with their checks for electricity and housing prices.
      And do not care that these houses are demolished by the first more or less intense hurricane, and in the cold inside the cranes freeze water ...
      1. +10
        17 January 2014 18: 46
        Quote: sledgehammer102
        ... And here the liberals scoffed at Andrey Parshev, the author of the book "Why Russia is not America

        Handbook, read to can not .... you need a newer volume to buy ...
        1. +5
          17 January 2014 22: 41
          Quote: sergey72
          Handbook, read to can not .... you need a newer volume to buy ...

          Parshev is in many respects right, but, in my opinion, too simplifies the issues of pricing and cost of production. Of course, the energy costs in the cost of production are slightly higher in a country with a cold climate, but do not forget that in countries with a hot climate there is also the problem of high energy costs for air conditioning, and it takes much more energy to cool one cubic meter of air by one degree than energy for heating the same volume of air by one degree.
          In addition, new construction technologies, new building materials, can significantly level energy costs in various climatic zones. In addition, the share of energy consumption in high-tech science-intensive industries is relatively small. The main share of the cost in such sectors is the intellectual costs of IMHO ... Hence the conclusion: In Russia it is necessary to create a high-tech, high-tech innovative economy, then it will be a priori highly competitive economy ...
          1. +8
            18 January 2014 01: 23
            Quote: Nick
            the energy required to cool one cubic meter of air by one degree is much more than the energy required to heat the same volume of air by one degree.


            Quite right, only to get comfortable conditions it is enough to cool the air by only 10 degrees of difference with the outside, and when heated (at a temperature of -10) by as much as 30, respectively, heating is always energetically more expensive than conditioning, this is in a purely domestic way, that is. for people, and to ensure many technological processes only heating is required (electroplating, metallurgy, chemistry)
            1. 0
              18 January 2014 12: 31
              Quote: Old Rocketman
              That's right, only to get comfortable conditions it is enough to cool the air by only 10 degrees of difference with the outside, and when heated (at a temperature of -10) by as much as 30, respectively, heating is always energetically more expensive than air conditioning,

              You are right, but the same metallurgical workshops do not need to be heated additionally, for this you can use and use, at modern plants, process heat. In general, in shops where there are a lot of energy-intensive technological equipment, you can significantly save on heating. even the human body releases 100 watts. thermal energy per hour. And how much thermal energy does the same electric motors emit, with a capacity of hundreds of kilowatts?
            2. yur
              yur
              +1
              18 January 2014 17: 37
              In addition (if pressed), air conditioning can be dispensed with, but without heating at sub-zero temperatures, alas ...
          2. +2
            18 January 2014 01: 23
            moreover, the energy required to cool one cubic meter of air by one degree is required significantly more than the energy to heat the same volume of air by one degree.


            In fact, you just invented the perpetual motion machine and created from scratch a new thermodynamics, moreover, right away, and in full form !!! laughing
            1. +3
              18 January 2014 01: 35
              Quote: Andrey57
              moreover, the energy required to cool one cubic meter of air by one degree is required significantly more than the energy to heat the same volume of air by one degree.


              In fact, you just invented the perpetual motion machine and created from scratch a new thermodynamics, moreover, right away, and in full form !!! laughing


              No, here he is right and thermodynamics has nothing to do with it. The specific heat capacity of air in both processes is the same, but when heated, there is a direct transformation of chemical energy into heat, and when cooled, heat is first converted into mechanical energy, and then mechanical energy back to heat + cold, the efficiency of the process is much lower, just "excess" heat is thrown into space, the entropy is unchanged
              1. 0
                18 January 2014 12: 20
                Quote: Old Rocketman
                No, he’s right here and the thermodynamics have nothing to do with it. The specific heat capacity of the air is the same in both processes, but when heated, the chemical energy is converted directly into heat, and when cooled, the heat is first converted into mechanical energy, and then mechanical energy back to heat + cold, process efficiency is much lower

                Thank! I just wanted to answer a connoisseur of thermodynamics, who forgot that for cooling the air, you need a compressor and a transition from high gas pressure to low, but I saw your explanation and decided not to strain ...
      2. +13
        17 January 2014 20: 09
        The article causes cautious optimism, it pleases ... But I want to remind you that this phrase is more 15 years old:

        1. +15
          17 January 2014 20: 57
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          The article causes cautious optimism, it pleases ... But I want to remind you that this phrase is more 15 years old:

          And for me it evokes a feeling of the inevitable apocalypse. America itself will not go to the bottom, it will drag the world’s half behind us and we will be in the top ten if we really look at things. We do not produce anything, we are a resource appendage, that's when resources will be needed then they will call us, but for now we will have a desert in the country
          1. GorynychZmey78
            +4
            17 January 2014 22: 39
            APASUS
            And for me it evokes a feeling of the inevitable apocalypse. America itself will not go to the bottom, it will drag half the world after itself and we will be in the top ten, if we really look at things.


            Yes, it seems that it will merge as mediocre as the USSR (this is a fact), America is clearly unintentional and in the end it can arrange an apocaleptic firework or a new redivision of the world with unknown, uncorrelated consequences! without reason, the whole world is arming very intensively, even to the detriment of the economy, they smell something was wrong)! as soon as the rat finally and recklessly feels that she has no way out of the corner, she presses the red war button!
            the only question is whether Russia is ready to do this in order to throw itself over this impudently star-striped-parasite parasite of a robber tightly sucking at its bowels
            or continue to play on their field according to their rules, giving the rat a chance to find a way out of its own created labyrinth! that is, to wait and as a friend she herself will die and die))
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          3. avg
            +4
            18 January 2014 00: 14
            Quote: APASUS
            And for me it evokes a feeling of an inevitable apocalypse. America itself will not go to the bottom, it will drag half the world after itself and we will be in the top ten,

            While potatoes grow in the country and rabbits breed, the apocalypse does not threaten us.
            1. 0
              18 January 2014 17: 35
              Quote: avg
              While potatoes grow in the country and rabbits breed, the apocalypse does not threaten us.

              But do not you think that this is a different kind of extreme - to go into subsistence farming !?
          4. +1
            18 January 2014 05: 12
            If you look at the root (as Kuzma Prutkov advised), then we planted them on our oil and gas needle. And all of them are n ..... in our favor.
          5. 225chay
            -1
            18 January 2014 06: 53
            Quote: APASUS
            And for me it evokes a feeling of the inevitable apocalypse. America itself will not go to the bottom, it will drag the world’s half behind us and we will be in the top ten if we really look at things. We do not produce anything, we are a resource appendage, that's when resources will be needed then they will call us, but for now we will have a desert in the country


            It's time to stop the circulation of the enemy currency (dollar) in our country! We support the American economy.
            Introduce a criminal article in Soviet times
            Although the oligarchs businessmen (Mace) and all sorts of officials are categorically against ..
          6. +2
            18 January 2014 11: 37
            We do not produce anything
            Sitting at the keyboard on the forums, really, nothing is being done. wink
        2. +7
          17 January 2014 21: 56
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          The article causes cautious optimism, it pleases ... But I want to remind you that this phrase is more 15 years old:


          That's it!
          Against the background of all the informativeness and consistency of this article, nonsense about the "ruins" and "frozen shops" of Ford factories simply offend the competence of the Author.
          To put it mildly, an unsuccessful comparison. Ford is the only corporation from the Big Three that has not begged for financial assistance from either the state or foreign investors.
          Moreover, during the crisis, on its own, it bypassed the quality and volume of sales of both General Motors, who had bought Sberbank of Russia with Opel, and also sold to the Italians Chrysler.
          And if Togliatti worked at least as half of the "ruins of Ford factories", the Chinese would not even have thought of entering the Russian car market.
      3. +3
        17 January 2014 21: 03
        They are mocked (or rather criticized) not only by some insane liberoids, but also by quite sober-minded people. Because his book is just a set of excuses like "We have such roads in holes, because the climate is bad." It is known that the road climate is abruptly interrupted at the borders of Russia-Finland ...
        1. +12
          18 January 2014 01: 33
          From the point of view of road surface technology for our climate, the problem of a damn is not worth it - if you add 3% butyl rubber from Togliatti and 5% polyethylene of any quality from anywhere to the asphalt mixture, then the asphalt surface will not burst up to -85C and will not "float" up to + 128C, which is actually done in Canada, Finland, Norway.
          By the way, most of butyl rubber from Tolyatti is exported specifically for road construction.
          It turns out again, as always - the roads are bad because no one is interested in good request
          1. +4
            18 January 2014 03: 20
            Things are even worse. Roads have long been part of one of the corruption schemes in which huge amounts of money are scrolled. A bad road is an inexhaustible source of income.
            1. -1
              18 January 2014 05: 17
              By the way, didn’t you think that such a state of roads helped us defeat Hitler in due time. Yes, and today scares Americans.
          2. 0
            18 January 2014 08: 59
            Yes, we have, in principle, much like that - everyone seems to know "how to", but it does not work. And of course the climate and geographical location are to blame. )
        2. +3
          18 January 2014 14: 07
          Quote: clidon
          the road climate is abruptly interrupted at the borders of Russia-Finland ...


          You tell this to the Finns. Only the day before yesterday there was a report full of tragedy about how pits on the roads were closed up - they throw hot asphalt into puddles and snow, level them out and drive on. Doesn’t resemble anything?

          And their era ended when the Chukhon prisoners cheaply and angrily (but quite democratically!) Stretched high-quality tracks through rocks and swamps; ennobled the tundra and did other necessary things, which normal people can not be lured. Now only stupidly famous production for the whole world is being closed.

          Russia is not the USSR, which was a cash barter cow for "Northern Japan". Soon Peter, as in the old days, will be overgrown with cheap and honest Finnish milkmen and bakers. Life will force.
          1. -2
            18 January 2014 16: 14
            Have you been from Finland for a long time? Chat with those who went there, and do not watch the first channel.
            1. +1
              18 January 2014 16: 19
              Quote: clidon
              Have you been from Finland for a long time? Chat with those who went there, and do not watch the first channel.

              We may not have been to Finland, but we understand what Finnish wealth is based on.
              1. 0
                18 January 2014 19: 13
                And I always have it with us - as soon as there is welfare, then there are immediately people explaining what it is based on. And vice versa, as soon as it is not there, there are a lot of excuses why it cannot be. )
            2. +3
              18 January 2014 16: 44
              Quote: clidon
              Chat with those who went there


              Dear, where do you think I am? Open your eyes, heartfelt! And believe the rumors less, since you yourself cannot see and play. You were told about the Finnish first state channel. tongue
              1. 0
                18 January 2014 19: 15
                Judging by what you write, either we are talking about different Finland, or you have not been to your homeland for a long time, you did not compare.
                1. +1
                  18 January 2014 20: 21
                  Maybe. The view of the tourist and the native - they are different. I feel for myself what and how has changed over the past half century.
                  But I visit my homeland often and just in awe of the external abundance of change.
                  1. 0
                    18 January 2014 21: 51
                    Well, the quality of the roads, I and as a tourist can appreciate - do not find ... Well, about "visiting", here, too, I can hint about a "tourist".
        3. +1
          18 January 2014 15: 19
          Quote: clidon
          It is known that the road climate is abruptly interrupted at the borders of Russia-Finland ...

          You just did not read his book. it clearly indicates the border of peoples and systems along the borders of climatic zones. Exactly so, Finland, compared with Karelia, is a fertile land.
          1. -2
            18 January 2014 16: 18
            I read his book, but it does not say that grace is blocked by a stick of the barrier. And with us this is exactly so.
            Japan for example fertile land? Despite the fact that there is little land, it shakes, fills, blows, the humidity is high, everything is wet. But the unfortunate ones live.
            1. 0
              18 January 2014 16: 53
              Quote: clidon
              Japan for example fertile land?

              Open the climate map of the world and you will immediately understand how wrong you are.
              1. 0
                18 January 2014 19: 11
                Sorry, what are your criteria for evaluating the climate? By temperature?
                Japan's tsunami and earthquake are particularly good.
      4. +2
        17 January 2014 23: 49
        Quote: sledgehammer102
        Homeless nigga feel sorry



        Nobody knows the exact number of homeless people, but there are approximately 3,5 million of them in the USA, of whom about 40%.

        For example, in New York's shelters, over 37 thousand homeless people spend the night every night, of which 16 thousand are children. These conclusions came from the Urban Institute in 2000. However, this data may be underestimated..

        http://newzz.in.ua/mir/1148867747-v-v-ssha-35-milliona-bezdomnyx-iz-nix-deti-sos
        tavlyayut-okolo-40.html
        1. +6
          17 January 2014 23: 51
          Quote: GreatRussia
          Nobody knows the exact number of homeless people, but there are approximately 3,5 million of them in the USA, of which children make up about 40%.

          For example, in New York's shelters every night over 37 thousand homeless people sleep, of which 16 thousand are children.


          Good evening everyone hi
          Visual footage
      5. anarch
        +5
        18 January 2014 02: 44
        Quote: sledgehammer102
        And do not care that these houses are demolished by the first more or less intense hurricane, and in the cold inside the cranes freeze water ...

        An old joke.
        After a series of hurricanes in the South, the United States sent experts to familiarize themselves with Russia's experience in Kamchatka and Sakhalin.
        It is understandable: the environmental conditions are the same, but for some reason houses do not add up.
        The conclusion of the commission: these psychos (about us) are building houses of brick. wink
      6. 0
        18 January 2014 15: 45
        sledgehammer102 "And it doesn't matter that these houses are blown away by the first less intense hurricane"
        - So it’s worse for them, we know that houses need to be built in a stronger and warmer way, if cardboard buildings are like in Hiroshima where the houses were not very strong and it happened that only a couple of buildings made exclusively of concrete survived, even at the epicenter itself.

    2. +1
      17 January 2014 18: 48
      Quote: delfinN
      Soviet weapons-grade uranium turned out to be pure poison for the US physical economy.

      Some kind of ridiculous argument of the author. From this point of view, the theft of the country can be presented as a blessing, they say we are planting the whole world on a raw material needle.
      1. 0
        17 January 2014 19: 13
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        From this point of view, the theft of the country can be presented as a blessing

        From the point of view of amers, it’s good. Yes, and they told us that uranium is in our possession (sorry, heaps) and we urgently need to sell it at least for something
      2. +18
        17 January 2014 20: 10
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Some kind of ridiculous argument of the author ..............

        - I don’t know who the author of this error (s) or strategic operation is, but the result is pleasing. After the collapse of the USSR, it was impossible for Russia to support the nuclear industry, to live on accumulated weapons-grade uranium would be the same result that it is now in the states, even though we have a lot less working reactors. And now, we have a preserved nuclear industry, new nuclear power units are being built with us and with our participation in other countries.
        Regarding the title of the article:
        Russian Winter not only helped fight the invaders in 1812 and 1941, but in 2014 itself attacked the United States and China. smile
        1. +4
          17 January 2014 20: 52
          Quote: Kite
          - I don’t know who the author of this error (s) or strategic operation is, but the result is pleasing.

          Those. if I understand you correctly, we benefited from the sale of uranium, having received an incentive for development? Can you rewrite your apartment for me? There will be an incentive to build a mansion for yourself. And I'll throw you crackers for the first time, and pour vodka. fool The fact that we sold US uranium for a penny is a direct betrayal, and Russia has not received any benefit from this.
          1. +4
            17 January 2014 21: 00
            No, I'd rather buy you a box of vodka so that you don't create competition for me "at the construction site". laughing fellow
            1. +2
              17 January 2014 21: 22
              Quote: Kite
              No, I’d better buy a box of vodka for you,

              In the 90s, we did just that, filling the country with cheap alcohol. And while the country thumped, they did their dark deeds. hi
              Quote: Kite
              so that you do not create competition for me "at the construction site"

              If you believe the author, I will decay to death in your hut. The excess of living space will spoil me. laughing
              1. gladiatorakz
                +1
                17 January 2014 22: 13
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                In the 90s, we did just that, filling the country with cheap alcohol. And while the country thumped, they did their dark deeds.

                But has this process already ended? Soldering, debilitating, drug addiction, corruption and dark affairs.
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              2. 0
                17 January 2014 22: 24
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                I'm morally in your hut decompose to death

                Do not worry! If you are stinking, I will bury (I do not promise honors, but I will adhere to Christian rites) laughing
          2. +1
            17 January 2014 21: 38
            There is some truth in this - the nuclear industry in those days was without money, absolutely, like the whole country. Therefore, the sale of surplus uranium was to some extent a salvation.
          3. +3
            18 January 2014 01: 53
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            The fact that we sold US uranium for a penny is a direct betrayal, and Russia has not received any benefit from this.


            And it is true that the USA with this "deal" created a problem for itself for the future, does not justify our "Christ sellers"
          4. +1
            18 January 2014 05: 23
            Do not look at the root. All we need to do now is set fire to the wick to the powder keg that America has turned itself into by purchasing our uranium. Well, for example, accidentally drop a satellite at the right place at a certain time. And there are enough terrorists unaccounted for there.
          5. 0
            30 January 2014 14: 12
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Can you rewrite your apartment for me?

            Comparison not with an apartment, but with an opiate addiction is much more appropriate here. Due to the continuous use of opiates, the addict ceases to produce his own endorphins, and when withdrawn, he experiences withdrawal. The same is with uranium: for a country with nuclear energy, its own uranium is just as necessary as endorphins for the normal functioning of the body. If you constantly receive an infusion from somewhere outside, then your own production will quickly bend, and in order to get a dose, the patient goes to cut grandmothers. Moreover, as you can see, breaking even makes you cut your homies: Fukushima rushed, in Japan and Europe, a green tantrum and a massive shutdown of the nuclear power plant began, and the uranium went to where it is so lacking.

            Quote: Ingvar 72
            The fact that we sold US uranium for a penny is a direct betrayal, and Russia has not received any benefit from this.

            Look at it the other way. The fact that we sold heroin for a penny to a drug addict has a direct commercial benefit: our heroin factory is constantly loaded with orders, workers work and get paid, and the addict himself will not get away from us if he does not want to bend into terrible cramps. You look, and he will rewrite the apartment for us, if he really wants it.
      3. Bashkaus
        +12
        17 January 2014 20: 38
        What a ridiculous argument of the author. From this point of view, the theft of the country can be presented as a blessing, they say the whole world is planted on a raw material needle
        In Russia, this is called Divine Providence. The Lord even punishes us, but He also preserves the Orthodox in an incomprehensible way crushing the enemy.
        1. +7
          17 January 2014 21: 08
          Quote: Bashkaus
          The Lord punishes us, but He also preserves the Orthodox

          Sergey seems to me He suffers us while we repent, lament for sins,

          For her, the holy Angel of God, the keeper and patron of my body and souls, I have forgiven me all, I have insulted thee all the days of my belly, and since we have sinned this night, covered me in the present day, and save me from all the temptation of the opposite Yes, in no gress I anger God,
        2. +3
          17 January 2014 21: 15
          Quote: Bashkaus
          In Russia, this is called Divine Providence.

          Hope for God, but don’t be fooled. hi
      4. +3
        17 January 2014 22: 37
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Quote: delfinN Soviet weapons-grade uranium turned out to be pure poison for the physical economy of the United States. Something ridiculous argument of the author.

        Well, why is it ridiculous? It is even logical if someone gets something for a long time without expenses on a silver platter, sooner or later he loses the ability to get something (produce) it. An example from medicine - if you feed the body with vitamin D for a long time, the body's ability to produce it inside itself gradually degrades.

        To at least somehow more or less successfully get out of today's stalemate, the United States will try to implement the previously twice-tested scenario of a world meat grinder (1914, 1939). Given that the map of Germany today is not high in its value, you need to play other options (but the participation of key players in Russia and China is mandatory in any option):
        - Option 1 map of radical Islam with the participation of Russia and Europe
        - Option 2 map with direct participation of China and Russia on opposite barricades
        - Option 3 Map of China versus Japan, South Korea or India
        Other options or combinations of the above are possible.
      5. 0
        18 January 2014 05: 19
        You almost guessed, but made the wrong conclusion. We mined America for this.
    3. +9
      17 January 2014 19: 04
      once again, the funeral of the states, but the hero of the occasion has no idea .....
    4. calocha
      +4
      17 January 2014 19: 20
      Something like -Enough to live anyhow! We will live as we have to!))
      1. +4
        17 January 2014 19: 46
        Quote: calocha
        Something like -Enough to live anyhow! We will live as we have to!))


        Hmm ... We survived the famine, survive and abundance
        1. +4
          17 January 2014 20: 05
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          once again, the funeral of the states, but the hero of the occasion has no idea .....


          He also has the concept, abolishing benefits and changing the parameters for assessing the social status of the unemployed and the poor)))
    5. +14
      17 January 2014 19: 24
      Plywood houses were built .. (two harvests were taken per summer) in shorts and sneakers all year round .. And the squeal that Russians are lazy and do not know how to work effectively ... Now we will check ... (God punishes "exceptional" exceptional frosts for the whole story ..) .. So gentlemen it's time to reveal the cards xy from xy and nothing else .. laughing
    6. +4
      17 January 2014 19: 36
      Quote: ////
      K V.V. Putin certainly can be treated in different ways, but he definitely worked out his free lunches in the Kremlin canteen.

      Of course it pleases. But for what they were generally fed? As our yard shit said - don't let the little ones ... suck.
    7. Khrushchev
      +1
      17 January 2014 21: 34
      Do you know how much this "poison" cost which putinoids and Yeltsinoids fused practically free of charge to the States? But this uranium would be enough for the entire former USSR for decades to come. Decades of cheap energy with all that it implies under a competent socialist leadership.
      Article frank pro-Putin agitation. The author forgot to say that the Russian Federation is by far the largest IMPORTER of uranium raw materials for further enrichment. And Australia and Canada, the largest in terms of reserves and production, in fact, these are the damned uranium arrogant saxes. And if you take control over Africa, it turns out that the Anglo-Saxons control about 70% of the world's uranium mining. At the same time, pink-fledged collateral joyfully yells about how good it is that we lowered the Soviet uranium supply into the toilet.
    8. 0
      17 January 2014 22: 53
      quote: K V.V. Putin certainly can be treated in different ways, but he definitely worked out his free lunches in the Kremlin canteen. The process of sacking the economic heritage of the USSR has ended
      as a clumsy author licked ZhE from PeZhe!
      why didn’t Putin break off the agreement, as was the case with the oil industry .. and for 13 years, plutonium itself continued to give pindos!
      500 tons has been accumulated over 50 years. in the near future the country is in short supply of this material.
    9. 0
      18 January 2014 05: 06
      They outwitted themselves. Well, just like the Jews, by golly. Now the WTO is enough to arrange Armageddon for them.
    10. 0
      18 January 2014 09: 05
      Well, with our oligarchs we will build such an empire!
  2. +11
    17 January 2014 18: 39
    During the past fiscal year (2012/2013), the federal budget deficit, according to preliminary estimates, amounted to $ 680 billion. For the first time in the past five years, the budget deficit was significantly reduced: it turned out to be below the trillion dollar level. We will proceed from the fact that the share of "non-market "borrowings in the past financial year accounted for 25% of the budget deficit.


    Some have already prepared a tombstone for America. The United States is still too strong to take and will simply fall apart.
    Soviet weapons-grade uranium turned out to be pure poison for the US physical economy


    But the "white death" delivered with the help of the Americans has become almost the No. 1 problem for Russia and other former Soviet republics.
  3. +8
    17 January 2014 18: 40
    Well, General Frost is our longtime ally!
    1. +6
      17 January 2014 19: 52
      Quote: Kibalchish
      Well, General Frost is our longtime ally!


      You have written this before, ask who invented the Fritz. Generaloberst Frost, frogs. Général Hiver)
      It was General Frost who was considered the main enemy by the unfortunate organizers of the invasions, not of our Soldier, and in the photo at Fritz, the shubeyka will be warmer
      1. +9
        17 January 2014 20: 42
        Yes, nifiga! Left excuse for the native outraged public. Like, we would have these ryusskih one would have left! But they accidentally got stuck in a snowdrift. Which of these "shakers of the universe" wants to admit that Vanka turned out to be stronger. So they come up with myths and legends ...
      2. kaktus
        +1
        18 January 2014 05: 14
        And where did he get this shubeyka? Marauder 100% am
    2. +11
      17 January 2014 20: 11
      Quote: Kibalchish
      Well, General Frost is our longtime ally!

      Lavrov gave the pink hat (with a double hint) for a reason .... [ bully Everything goes according to plan..
    3. -2
      17 January 2014 20: 33
      Cheto is our national defender of the DM suspiciously Caucasian blood .... (Judging by the cap, cloak, gluzdyry and the family dagger. Since when is this our national outfit?)
      1. +3
        18 January 2014 00: 10
        Outfit Cossack. Cossacks at all times (except Soviet ones) were the first defenders of Russia.
    4. +4
      17 January 2014 20: 44
      In Siberia they say - whoever has not been in the cold has never seen grief. wink
      1. +1
        18 January 2014 10: 08
        Greetings to all members of the forum! As a Siberian I want to correct --- We say "A Siberian is not the one who is not afraid of frost, but the one who dresses warmly" smile
    5. +3
      17 January 2014 22: 08
      A very common myth invented by the French and picked up later for some reason in Russia in the winter of 1812. was abnormally warm!
      1. avg
        +2
        18 January 2014 00: 37
        Recently, the Lithuanians have come up with another excuse. An article was born about the failure of the French campaign - "Lice killed the great army"
  4. +1
    17 January 2014 18: 41
    the only way out (in my opinion) for their administration is another small and extremely victorious (***!) war, so that it would be time to come up with the next feint with your ears in your (read USA) salvation.
    1. 0
      17 January 2014 19: 15
      Quote: Krugov
      another small and extremely victorious

      The question arises: With whom? Venezuela? Syria? Iran? I think a country with oil. Although there are oil in Iraq ....
    2. +1
      17 January 2014 19: 25
      Quote: Krugov
      another small and extremely victorious (***!) war

      Nah, a little one won't help anything.
  5. +3
    17 January 2014 18: 43
    More General Frost! By the way, nobody writes something about Hiro Onoda
    1. 0
      17 January 2014 22: 15
      Quote: Kibalchish
      By the way, nobody writes something about Hiro Onoda


      He died yesterday, a bright way to him in Japanese paradise! crying
  6. 0
    17 January 2014 18: 55
    Something is EROEI some kind of muddy.
    1. 0
      18 January 2014 02: 01
      Quote: 787nkx
      Something is EROEI some kind of muddy.


      Do not mind it! laughing
  7. +8
    17 January 2014 19: 18
    The media are silent about the connection of the current cold weather in the USA with the Gulf Stream (due to the accident in the Gulf of Mexico). Taboo, however.
  8. +4
    17 January 2014 19: 23
    I read it with pleasure. To the author plus. Could put two.
  9. +1
    17 January 2014 19: 24
    Quote: Kibalchish
    Something nobody writes about Hiro Onoda

    So it’s not the topic - they don’t write. request
  10. +13
    17 January 2014 19: 28
    In the 19th century, General Frost helped defeat the French; in the 20th century, he helped defeat the Germans. And in the 21st century, he himself launched a preemptive strike against the Americans. lol
    1. +5
      17 January 2014 19: 54
      Quote: Gardamir
      In the 19th century, General Frost helped defeat the French; in the 20th century, he helped defeat the Germans. And in the 21st century, he himself delivered a preemptive strike against the Americans


      I respect healthy humor
  11. +4
    17 January 2014 19: 33
    Great they get it. The budget deficit is comparable to the entire CIS budget. To cover the deficit in pieces of paper and buy back previously issued pieces of paper, you need to print new pieces of paper.
    Everything according to Zadornov: "Collect ten caps and you will get a mug, then collect ten mugs to get your lids back." good
  12. +3
    17 January 2014 19: 38
    if they urgently needed a war, it would have been fought.
    I can’t believe that the United States is a nomad living in raids on its neighbors.
    War is now terribly expensive. Information rich. It's hard to make the whole world believe. there will always be other versions. The allies are not the same either - they do not want to carry chestnuts.
    In general, the problem is not this - but in the amers themselves. They relaxed ... They survived the boom, prosperity, then consolidated with the Japanese, with the USSR, consolidated the entire system of the Western world for themselves.
    And everything collapsed ... the absence of a global enemy to the system-destroyed the system from the inside. The body began to clog, creep-and threatens to clog pores.
    Maybe now if China itself attacked, maybe the Americans would consolidate. Only the Chinese do not need this. They themselves will give.
    1. 10kAzAk01
      +5
      17 January 2014 20: 07
      In general, the problem is not this - but in the amers themselves. They relaxed ... They survived the boom, prosperity, then consolidated with the Japanese, with the USSR, consolidated the entire system of the Western world for themselves.
      And everything collapsed ... the absence of a global enemy to the system-destroyed the system from the inside. The body began to clog, creep-and threatens to clog pores.

      .... campaign collapse of the USSR was a temptation !!!!!!!!! this is a secret operation of the KGB op the collapse of the United States !!! laughing laughing laughing
      1. +2
        18 January 2014 00: 17
        The USA and the USSR created a balance, a balance at which the whole world lived well compared to what it is now. The collapse of the USSR meant that now there is no need in the United States, and they will soon be collapsed.
  13. +6
    17 January 2014 19: 41
    Well. And here the liberals scoffed at Andrey Parshev, the author of the book "Why Russia is not America", where he tied the comfort for the economy to the climatic isobar. And our liberals are poking us hard with their checks for electricity and housing prices.
    And do not care that these houses are demolished by the first more or less intense hurricane, and in the cold inside the cranes freeze water ...


    Actually so!
    But the very north of the USA, we don’t take Apyaska, it’s like our Krasnodar approximately.
    Of course, household expenditures for heating and similar shuzhda, by any available means, are much less than the average for Russia. The cost of building turnkey housing is also much more expensive and for the same reasons.
    1. Bashkaus
      +3
      17 January 2014 20: 58
      Of course, household expenditures for heating and similar shuzhda, by any available means, are much less than the average for Russia. The cost of building turnkey housing is also much more expensive and for the same reasons.
      I agree 100% the same frame house 150-200m2, we stand for lam with 20cm insulation, but they do not need such insulation in Texas, max 5cm for decency, and this is 4 times cheaper, I think the house is 150-200m2 in the USA in terms of cost, they have more than 20 thousand dollars, but their salaries are much higher, which means they should have been more affordable at home. True in the cold in such a house is tough. Well, heating, a separate topic for such a house, is 15-20 kW / h, and it is necessary to heat October-April, and the temperature is frosty for a couple of months. Is it a matter of including a heater in Orlando when it got colder on the street up to +5
    2. +2
      17 January 2014 22: 26
      Quote: VladimS
      But the very north of the USA, we don’t take Apyaska, it’s like our Krasnodar approximately.


      Well, Minnesota and Montana will be flippers of Krasnoyarsk (one latitude does not mean anything).
      But most are really warmer. Although there is another misfortune - hurricanes with tornadoes tear the whole middle annually.
      Everyone has their own fun wassat
  14. zen1963
    -3
    17 January 2014 20: 10
    How difficult and absurd is the author writing. Does he himself understand what he wrote?
    1. +3
      18 January 2014 02: 08
      Quote: zen1963
      How difficult and absurd is the author writing. Does he himself understand what he wrote?


      Well, actually he didn’t write for kindergarten laughing
  15. +1
    17 January 2014 20: 11
    At one time, the Russian winter helped defeat the armies of Napoleon and Hitler, and in 2014, it independently attacked the United States and China.
    ---------------------
    Today's joke ...
    1. +5
      17 January 2014 20: 42
      Quote: Altona
      At one time, the Russian winter helped defeat the armies of Napoleon and Hitler,


      So the Germans dumped everything on the Russian winter. And it was not General Frost who beat them, but a Russian soldier.

      And it’s better not to talk about Napoleon but just to read

      The version that Napoleon was killed by "General Frost" is well known. Many people learned about this even at school and since then, invariably citing Napoleon as an example, having conquered all of Europe and having lost his army in a cold Russia, they love to prove knowingly that the conquerors do not need to meddle with us, because cold and roads will destroy any genius. Nobody knows where this idea came from, but many generations of our compatriots repeat it as a great truth. That is precisely in 1834 that Davydov was indignant. He called one of the chapters of his book, “Did frost destroy the French army in 1812?” citing eyewitness accounts and refuting the allegations of the French emperor, who, however, had already been buried in the grave on the island of St. Helena for 13 years already. Napoleon came up with a similar explanation for his defeat back in 1812, announcing the reasons for the defeat in the twenty-ninth bulletin. According to this propaganda document (and Napoleon’s bulletins cannot be called differently), the sudden snow and frost at six days upset the spirit of his army and took the courage from the soldiers, although the Russians contributed little to that.

      Disagreeing with the great commander, Davydov cites the following facts: during the campaigns of 1795 and 1807, the frosts were much stronger and longer, but the French did not suffer such a crushing defeat, but, on the contrary, won a number of victories. But the most important thing is that in 1812 there was no frost as such, this is simply an absurd delusion. There is much evidence that during the retreat of the Great Army the temperature did not fall below 10 degrees. In particular, according to the temperature table from the report of the Vilnius Astronomical Observatory for 1812, the lowest temperature was observed on the 13th (-8 ° С), 14th (-9,2 ° С) and 15th (-6,5 ° С ) November. Public memory about the severe frosts of the winter of 1812/13 influenced public opinion in many respects, but they broke out after the French crossed the Neman.
  16. +1
    17 January 2014 20: 19
    Quote: Altona
    At one time, the Russian winter helped defeat the armies of Napoleon and Hitler, and in 2014, it independently attacked the United States and China.
    ---------------------
    Today's joke ...

    Well done ! well written .. laughing
  17. +3
    17 January 2014 20: 19
    “In general, the HEU-LEU program provided about 50% of the needs of 104 American reactors, which in turn provided about 20% of the electricity generated in the United States. It follows from this that Russia has provided almost 10% of the US energy consumption almost free of charge for 20 years. Or two full years. "
    The freebie is over. Oh, how now it will not just be easy for them to establish this production in market conditions, especially in a crisis. Over 20 years, for any, there has been a degradation of the market in this area for them.
    1. +2
      18 January 2014 00: 14
      Quote: Jamal
      The freebie is over. Oh, how now it will not just be easy for them to establish this production in market conditions, especially in a crisis. Over 20 years, for any, there has been a degradation of the market in this area for them.

      There was an article about this. They may even have a fuel shortage. Moreover, the old factories have long been closed, and building new ones is now very costly.
  18. Salamander
    +5
    17 January 2014 20: 23
    Article "+". We are waiting - we will not wait for IT to happen ...
    1. -1
      17 January 2014 20: 51
      Quote: Salamander
      Article "+". We are waiting - we will not wait for IT to happen ...

      Not the first generation is waiting for this. The country is already different, but still the expectation continues, a new generation of balabolov blowing dust off old brochures changes their words to modern ones leaving their old meaning ... Everyone is tired of laughing at you ...
      1. +4
        17 January 2014 20: 59
        Quote: Nayhas
        a new generation of balabolov blowing dust off old brochures changes words to modern ones, leaving the previous meaning ..


        Eugene is not sure, here Prometheus ran around the city with the symbol of Russian vodka, so there were how many people should be at the event for enterprises and educational institutions in the old fashioned order
        1. Alex 241
          +2
          17 January 2014 21: 09
          Vadim welcome, this event has already been brought to the absolute absurdity!
          1. +3
            17 January 2014 21: 25
            Quote: Alex 241
            Vadim welcome, this event has already been brought to the absolute absurdity!


            Sasha bow hi I think if sport should be applied to the army, biathlon, parachute, mountaineering, all-around, swimming, etc. But

            For the money spent on the Olympics, 50 billion euros = 50 * 45,2855 (the euro exchange rate in rubles) = 2264,275 billion rubles. it would be possible to pay the entire budget section "Physical Education and Sport" for more than fifty years. Budget expenditures for the section "Physical education and sport" 42,3 billion rubles.
            1. Alex 241
              +1
              17 January 2014 21: 29
              Absolutely Vadim, sport has long been an industry that brings good dividends, and at this time our veterans are huddled in shacks! They will soon be counted on the fingers!
            2. gladiatorakz
              +1
              17 January 2014 22: 23
              Quote: Vadivak
              and the money spent on the Olympics is 50 billion euros = 50 * 45,2855 (the euro exchange rate in rubles) = 2264,275 billion rubles. it would be possible to pay the entire budget section "Physical Education and Sport" for more than fifty years.

              Yoyoyo. I immediately understand the Old Believers, who still write the word "pancake" through "yat".
              1. +2
                17 January 2014 23: 52
                Quote: gladiatorakz
                I immediately understand Old Believers who still write the word "pancake" through "yat".


                Then Old Believers. Ancestors of his father were sent from Zaporozhye to Siberia for this.
                1. +2
                  18 January 2014 00: 06
                  Quote: Vadivak
                  Then Old Believers. Ancestors of his father were sent from Zaporozhye to Siberia for this.

                  Not only .......... were sent to Azerbaijan.
                  Good evening Vadim. hi
                2. gladiatorakz
                  0
                  18 January 2014 00: 26
                  Quote: Vadivak
                  I immediately understand the Old Believers, who still write the word "pancake" through "yat". Then the Old Believers. Ancestors on the father's side were sent from Zaporozhye to Siberia for this.

                  And mine remained in Zaporozhye. And among them were representatives of the old Faith. That's not the point. The amount allocated to Sochi 2014 does not become less.
            3. Salamander
              +4
              17 January 2014 22: 36
              Quote: Vadivak
              Quote: Alex 241
              Vadim welcome, this event has already been brought to the absolute absurdity!


              For the money spent on the Olympics, 50 billion euros = 50 * 45,2855 (the euro exchange rate in rubles) = 2264,275 billion rubles. it would be possible to pay the entire budget section "Physical Education and Sport" for more than fifty years. Budget expenditures for the section "Physical education and sport" 42,3 billion rubles.


              In fact, the data is as follows: 100 billion rubles were spent on the Olympics. from the state budget and 114 billion rubles. at the expense of investors. http://ria.ru/sport/20130904/960603898.html
              And where did 50 billion euros come from? By the way, the Universiade spent only 230 billion rubles.
              1. Salamander
                +2
                17 January 2014 22: 53
                Of course, you can consider everything that was spent on the city of Sochi, but then you need to consider Soviet time laughing
                1. jjj
                  +1
                  18 January 2014 00: 18
                  Do not think of it. Now they’ll probably add
              2. Salamander
                +3
                17 January 2014 23: 07
                Yeah, Boris Nemtsov writes about 50 billion euros. If tomorrow, for example, Garry Kasparov assigns a pair of zeros, will you mind? lol lol lol
                1. +2
                  18 January 2014 00: 08
                  Quote: Salamander
                  Yeah, Boris Nemtsov writes about 50 billion euros.


                  Well, Nemtsov 26.02.2013 RIA Novosti claims that private investors have already spent about $ 25 billion. And according to Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Kozak, the federal and regional budgets have spent about $ 13 billion today.

                  A year has passed ....
                  1. Salamander
                    +1
                    18 January 2014 13: 32
                    I was looking for a search engine - on 16.01.2014/214/50: 26.02.13 billion rubles (specifically for the Olympics). And the figure of XNUMX billion euros appeared precisely with Nemtsov. And the date is incomprehensible for you - XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX. Yes, and don’t include money invested not in the Olympic infrastructure, but in Sochi itself. After all, they will go to the construction of new roads, and for other purposes that are useful for the residents of Sochi (and tourists too).
        2. jjj
          +1
          18 January 2014 00: 15
          By the way, the vodka was so-so. Here is "Posolskaya" ... I tried it at the Moscow Olympics
      2. Salamander
        +3
        17 January 2014 21: 09
        But what, you can’t wait? I don’t think that someone believed in the collapse of the USSR in 1985 ... There they made terrible films about how Soviet troops spread the whole world (well, America cannot be, it’s a monument laughing )
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  19. 0
    17 January 2014 20: 42
    The article is competent and on business, the analysis is good. (If only he, damn it, turned out to be unreliable - that's enough for everyone) ...
  20. +6
    17 January 2014 20: 45
    Quote: Salamander
    Article "+". We are waiting - we will not wait for IT to happen ...

    Gentlemen, do not rush things! They need to be lowered slowly, without haste, aircraft carrier after aircraft carrier, missile after missile, they can still sell many "beads and mirrors", for machine tools, technology, etc.
  21. Arh
    +2
    17 January 2014 20: 45
    Soon, some cities in the United States will flood, burn out, there will be an earthquake and hit the cold, the wind will blow from Africa and the whole United States will be covered with sand and there will be no one! ! ! ))))))) smile
  22. +3
    17 January 2014 20: 46
    Nonsense with great consequences committed by the United States after the collapse of the USSR ... the destruction of industry in the post-Soviet space and the transfer of production to China, the consequences ... in fact, they themselves used a globally climatic weapon ... and this is not fiction this is reality.
    Back in the 60s of the last century, Soviet scientists proved the dependence of climate change on the obscurity of the atmosphere, not famous emissions of freon and carbon dioxide, namely, shading affects the climate. There is a very significant example of this ... after the September events in the USA, airplanes stopped flying for several days ... which led to a temperature increase of several degrees ... which is equivalent to a change in a century ... and just a couple of days ... and all because of the lack of inversion traces from airplanes and residues of fuel combustion products.
    As you know, changes in the weather are coming from the West to the East, well, the climate on the planet is so arranged ... so the threat is not coming from the East to the USA ... but from the West.
    And in Russia, climate change is felt ... the territory here is still hoo ... Europe felt the same consequences of the struggle for the environment ... everyone got it ... and this is just the beginning.
    1. +1
      18 January 2014 00: 21
      Quote: Strashila
      And in Russia, climate change is felt ... the territory here is still hoo ... Europe felt the same consequences of the struggle for the environment ... everyone got it ... and this is just the beginning.

      In general, it's time to bring down ... From this planet. smile
  23. +5
    17 January 2014 20: 48
    I have not read articles for a long time whose justice (for me) is indisputable and which do not cause a desire to argue.
    I want to be happy for America - well, ur.d., jumped? Have you drank our blood? Let's look at the hangover.
  24. 0
    17 January 2014 21: 08
    Personally, the article has somewhat loaded me. If the author writes about some mythical EROEI ~ 50, then let him even bother to decipher what kind of beast this is. Tea is not at the Davos forum, it speaks to specialists. Yes, and gross errors, also do not add gloss ..
    1. sanitarlesa
      0
      17 January 2014 21: 51
      in vo ... grammatically lays out but muddy .. but still inspired some hopes
  25. +2
    17 January 2014 21: 14
    Quote: homosum20
    I have not read articles for a long time whose justice (for me) is indisputable and which do not cause a desire to argue.
    I want to be happy for America - well, ur.d., jumped? Have you drank our blood? Let's look at the hangover.

    They have only drunk our material and financial roofs now ... Now they will demand real bloodletting .. (dollars should be provided with blood ..) We are still brushing off the rubles .. (they are modestly provided with the Strategic Rocket Forces support and a huge territory with rich resources and most importantly talented and clean (for the most part) the soul of the people .. whom no one has yet been able to defeat ...! Washington and New York have not yet taken .. (hope for Chingachguk) This is their land ..!
  26. Mesh
    0
    17 January 2014 21: 17
    Interesting article, thanks to the author!
  27. +3
    17 January 2014 21: 32
    Is the cold on the Great Lakes related to our heat and forest fires? Nature - mother does not tolerate emptiness, - if "somewhere" decreases, it means "somewhere" arrives. And I would like to wish the Yankees - do not gamble with Russia, even if the authorities have "effective managers!
  28. mad
    +1
    17 January 2014 21: 59
    Everything would be fine, but in this conditionally, sliding into the abyss country, the second largest stock of nuclear weapons. And the cornered beast is unpredictable, especially consisting of neurasthenics, Latinos and other homosexuals who consider themselves an "exclusive" nation. Can we feed them little by little, teach them how to convert uranium from our own warheads into electricity? And how they completely run wild, send missionaries with primers and rods ... although by this time they will finally be enslaved by Muslims and colored Americans.
  29. 0
    17 January 2014 22: 36
    If this event happened, one could panic and make managerial decisions in the spirit of Adolf Aloizovich, but it did not happen alone. In December 2013, the HEU-LEU program ended. The agreement on the supply of weapons-grade uranium of the USSR in the form of depleted (diluted to 5%) uranium to American nuclear power plants. In total, this program provided for the supply of 500 tons of weapons-grade uranium over 20 years from 1993 to 2013. Despite all the US diplomatic efforts, this program was not extended. K V.V. Putin certainly can be treated in different ways, but he definitely worked out his free lunches in the Kremlin canteen. The process of sacking the economic heritage of the USSR has ended.

    Everything would be fine, but Boris Mironov claims that he has the documents signed by Putin, which launched the HEU-LEU program. It turns out that the GDP itself generated the program, but it killed it by hanging a wrestler’s medal for Russia on the chest? That's just the legacy of our fathers and grandfathers in the form of 500 kg of uranium can not be returned. On the face is an obvious betrayal, and even laundered in the best way
    1. Khrushchev
      0
      18 January 2014 00: 14
      Quote: LetterKsi
      500 kg of uranium can no longer be returned. On the face is an obvious betrayal, and even laundered in the best way

      but not simple but weapons. The cost of production for 2009 is 1kg = 1.5 lama, that is, only 750 billion dollars. But this is only the tip of the iceberg, the cost of electricity that can be obtained from it even at a minimum price of 4 cents per kWh for at least 2 TRILLION DOLLARS. and the crafty poo can screech as much as he wants that the Russian Federation has paid off Soviet debts. then he paid off only to his masters and showed the common people the depositors of Sberbank of the USSR ...
      1. +1
        18 January 2014 10: 12
        The damage was catastrophic! This is one of the great posting scams. After which, some still undertake to talk about the return of Soviet debts to the west. Only this one offer closed the energy hole to the states for 20 years, lowering us for the same number of years. This is the West and the modern Russian colonial administration owes us a lot, and not we owe it. Another grandiose scam about which they are quietly silent is the sale of rare-earth metal reserves in the 90s. Also catastrophic in scope
        1. +1
          18 January 2014 10: 36
          The damage was not greater than in the current (or past) oil trade. We still sell nuclear fuel assemblies. Is it like damage to the economy or help?
          1. 0
            18 January 2014 11: 04
            Quote: clidon
            We still sell nuclear fuel assemblies. Is it like damage to the economy or help?

            We are no longer selling, the contract has been completed and closed, no new ones have been signed.
            1. 0
              18 January 2014 11: 19
              We sell and how. It's just that now they are "obtained" from ore (own or purchased), processed "tailings", etc.
      2. 0
        18 January 2014 10: 35
        Uranium was sold at the cost of nuclear fuel of that time with a small discount for wholesale. If you sell an old tank for scrap, will you demand a few million dollars from the buyer (because that’s how it cost to put it into service) or several tens of thousands of dollars for metal?
        And electricity from the fuel still needs to be received - or do you think that it alone gives current?
    2. +3
      18 January 2014 00: 23
      Quote: LetterKsi
      Everything would be fine, but Boris Mironov claims that he has the documents signed by Putin, which launched the HEU-LEU program.

      You yourself are not funny ... Who, at that time was still GDP?
      1. 0
        18 January 2014 09: 46
        Not yet, but already ... Probably you don't even suspect that VVP started with the assistant Sobchak. This is the one that Sobchachka gave birth to and wrote the modern Rassian constitution. For which, EBN put a lot of people in 1993. Also, Yumashev's GDP in his subordinates managed to resemble. ... and I managed to do a lot more. ... the laughter passed? Do you think that he is like this, somehow himself, once in the presidency? he sits there for "services" before his patronymic. One of the merits- HEU-LEU
  30. +5
    18 January 2014 00: 03
    Quote: lonely
    Some have already prepared a tombstone for America. The United States is still too strong to take and will simply fall apart.


    There are HEADS at the Forum - then China doesn’t put anything into it,
    - then the mattress is torn to shreds
    Sobriety is not familiar to them.
  31. +4
    18 January 2014 00: 30
    Quote: VladimS
    But the very north of the USA, we don’t take Apyaska, it’s like our Krasnodar approximately.

    The energy side of climate is one thing. A mild climate means favorable conditions for agriculture. In the USSR, chernozem accounted for 15% of the total cultivated land, and in the USA 80%. 80! Any questions? There, a farmer can easily feed a horde of soldiers, sailors, defense industry workers. And in Russia this is, for natural reasons, harder.
  32. jjj
    +5
    18 January 2014 00: 32
    Let's look at the situation in the plane of defense of the Russian sector of the Arctic. We have paralysis of the US transportation infrastructure. No planes flew, no trains. The very life activity of the territories was paralyzed. All these are real facts obtained from several sources and are not disputed by anyone. What conclusion can be drawn? The Western world, represented by the United States, is not ready to conduct military operations in high latitudes. Not ready technologically, because electronics fail. To make it clear, I will give an example at the Vaskovo airport near Arkhangelsk last year, a foreign-made plane was delayed. The cabin froze in the cold. This "liquid" was squeezed out of the liquid crystal monitors. Everything, the plane is faulty. This is just one example. But those who use gadgets are well aware of how they behave when they are in the cold for a long time. Here, even with purely Chinese, things are better.
    The second oil painting. Our ship is in the ice captivity of Antarctica. The Chinese icebreaker walked towards it, did not reach it. The Australian icebreaker walked, walked, did not reach. Two-meter ice, not packaged, not perennial monoliths, were beyond their power. And a month before, the handsome "50 Years of Victory" landed an Olympic troop at the North Pole
    1. 0
      18 January 2014 08: 50
      That is, have we had complete paralysis of Alaska’s military infrastructure for many years?
      What about a stuck icebreaker? A subtle hint that we have atomic icebreakers, but the United States does not. It could be said easier. ) Or will we attack Antarctica?
  33. +1
    18 January 2014 00: 36
    Quote: Vadivak
    during the retreat of the Great Army, the temperature did not fall below 10 degrees.

    For the French, as for all Europeans (with the exception of Northern Scandinavia, maybe), minus five is already an apocalypse.
    1. +1
      18 January 2014 02: 19
      Quote: Atash
      For the French, as for all Europeans (with the exception of Northern Scandinavia, maybe), minus five is already an apocalypse.

      Most Scandinavians live on the shores of the Baltic and Norwegian Sea and do not see Russian frosts, typical Europeans.
    2. yur
      yur
      0
      18 January 2014 19: 25
      And do not go if the gut is thin!
  34. 0
    18 January 2014 00: 46
    Quote: Vadivak
    And it’s better not to talk about Napoleon but just to read

    ___________________________
    The first time I see a comment on a comment with the reservation that this is a joke ... I have read a lot about Napoleon, given that I was born exactly 200 years later than him, namely on August 15 ... I, in turn, advise you to read about God and how it’s determined in relation to him, otherwise the situation is like in another joke ... I won’t quote, there about the cross and underwear ...
  35. 0
    18 January 2014 01: 27
    Due to difficulties in the United States and general instability in the world, prices for utilities and gasoline services will be significantly raised in Russia.
    To which the author of readers leads gently and unobtrusively.
  36. wax
    0
    18 January 2014 01: 32
    World financial abscesses, and the situation is similar to approaching its surgical opening, are resolved by wars. Do not be late and prepare.
  37. Igor.
    +1
    18 January 2014 02: 12
    Very interesting. I read it in one breath. Thanks to the author.
  38. +2
    18 January 2014 03: 42
    More efforts are needed to make the dollar cease to be a global means of payment. The entire financial system of the United States rests on this. It is time to pay off parasites.
    Carthage must be destroyed!
    1. 0
      18 January 2014 05: 39
      More efforts are needed to make the dollar cease to be a global means of payment. The entire financial system of the United States rests on this

      Not long to wait. Scattering its wrappers around the world, America begets its grave diggers. It’s easier to get off a paper dollar needle than an energy addiction.
  39. 1st_user
    +1
    18 January 2014 11: 18
    Something punctuation is no good in the article.
    1. 0
      18 January 2014 12: 38
      Do not judge strictly! In sunny Magadan, uh, sorry! In sunny Florida, frost came, the remnants of gray matter froze! If you were! fellow
  40. 0
    18 January 2014 12: 46
    let the snot freeze! You look and the brains cool, you give Siberian frosts throughout the United States!
  41. 0
    19 January 2014 00: 18
    It was not General Frost who came to the states.

    White Fluffy Polar Fox peered into the states.

    And I really liked the article. So they need it! They plundered the former Union, now let them reap the benefits, parasites!
  42. 0
    19 January 2014 06: 53
    Good review, sensible. Only he considers negativity for America. Now the same for Russia and Europe. We have our own problems and there are many of them. And America, yes. will have to look for ways out of zs. I wonder whose expense this time?
  43. sashka
    0
    19 January 2014 08: 30
    They burned us a little, we freeze them a little. A new level of play. And all as if nothing at all. Logically and correctly ..
  44. 0
    19 January 2014 09: 27
    Cool presentation language what to the author +
  45. Alex toll
    0
    20 January 2014 12: 10
    The Universe remembers everything !!! Do not swarm to another grave, you yourself will fall into it ........... Our leaders at the collapse of the USSR, without realizing it, planted a Time Bomb))))) Stars love us))))