Commander of the phantom army

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Commander of the phantom army

В stories There is no civil war, perhaps, a more vague and diligently explored topic than the front line and the military successes of the 2 Cavalry Army.

In Soviet times, the first mention is just a mention! - about her in the scientific historical literature appeared in the 1930 year. The second - a quarter of a century later, in 1955. Then there was another fifteen years of deaf silence. And only in 1970-m - a barely noticeable timid attempt to tell something about the participation of this army in the defeat of Wrangel and the liberation of the Crimea. Which immediately followed the roar of the authorities: "Do not you dare!"

So today the very fact of the existence of this huge cavalry unit, which played a prominent role in the final stage of the fratricidal meat grinder, for many of our compatriots can be a complete revelation.

As well as the biography of the commander Philip Kuzmich Mironov - one of the first high-ranking Soviet military commanders who decided on an armed struggle against the regime that nurtured him ...

Hero and truth seeker

From the very beginning, his fate abounded in sharp turns and unpredictable turns. The future red commander was born in 1872 on the village of Buerak-Senyutkin, the stanitsa village of Ust-Medveditskaya (now it is Serafimovichsky district of the Volgograd region). He graduated from the parish school and two classes of the local gymnasium.

At the age of twenty began the military service of Philip Mironov. For two years, the young man regularly compiled and rewrote orders and reports in the office of one of the district administrations of the Don Cossacks, and then entered the Novocherkassk Junker School.

In the 1898, the newly-minted, but by no means young, cornet took over fifty of the scouts in the 7 Don Cossack Regiment. He served conscientiously and was repeatedly encouraged by the command for exemplary training of subordinates who were famous throughout the whole division for their daring and dashing. But after three years, barely having received the title of centurion, he resigned - men's hands and skill were more necessary in a large household. However, Mironov did not remain a simple Cossack for long: his countrymen soon elected him a village chieftain.


When the Russian-Japanese war began, Philip Kuzmich filed a petition three times asking him to reinstate him in the service, but he only got to 1904 in June and spent only 10 months at the front. But he fought so boldly and desperately that in such a short time he was awarded four orders: St. Vladimir 4 degree, St. Anna 3 and 4 degree and St. Stanislav 3 degree. So, in the native village of Mironov, besides for the combat differences prematurely produced in the porchesaula, he returned in the rays of well-deserved fame.

But then suddenly began his friction with the authorities. Returning to Ust-Medveditskaya, Philip Kuzmich became the initiator of the district gathering, at which the villagers accepted - no more and no less! - the mandate of the State Duma. In it, the Donians asked to adopt a law on the release of the Cossacks of the second and third lines of conscription (that is, already elderly, sophisticated and combat experience) from carrying out police service during workers 'and peasants' unrest. They have enough trouble, and let the police and the young men do nothing to pacify the disaffected.

With this mandate, the stanitsa ataman headed the delegation headed for St. Petersburg. It is easy to imagine the confusion of the then parliamentarians: the events of the First Russian Revolution are in full swing in the country, and the Cossacks - the eternal support of the throne - are announced to the capital with such a request!

In general, after returning home, Mironov, despite all his military merit, fell into disgrace with the leaders of the Don Cossacks: he was no longer elected a village chieftain, and until the very beginning of the First World Philip Kuzmich quietly and peacefully engaged in farming on his land plot under secret police surveillance.

But then the thunders of the military thundered - and the brave Cossack officer was again in the saddle. And again, fighting beyond lauding. By the fall of 1917, he became a military foreman (lieutenant colonel), reached the post of deputy regiment commander, his uniform adorned the Order of St. Vladimir 3 degree, St. Stanislav 2 and 1 degree, St. Anna 2 and 1 degree . That is, the commoner-Cossack became a full gentleman of the two orders of the Russian Empire, which was already a unique phenomenon.


And in June, 1917-th Philip Kuzmich was awarded the St. George weapons. The reward, to be sure, is a very honorable, but in itself a case of an ordinary for the war years. However, it will be only three years, and the commander Mironov will receive a piece from the government of the Soviet Republic with the Order of the Red Banner sealed into the hilt. After that, it will become the only holder in the world of three types of award weapons - Annensky, St. George and Honorary Revolutionary ...

Citizen cossack

In January, 1918, a military foreman elected as the commander of the 32 Cossack Regiment, voluntarily led subordinates from the Romanian front to the Don, already engulfed in the Civil War. Mironov, who unreservedly sided with the new government, was elected by the Cossacks to the Ust-Medveditsk District Revolutionary Committee, then the military commissar of the district. In the spring of 1918, to fight the whites, Philip Kuzmich organized several Cossack partisan detachments, which were then united into a brigade, which later developed into the 23 division of the Red Army. Naturally, Mironov was appointed the beginner.

Ardent and straightforward, he did not immediately figure out what kind of idea he was advocating. Therefore, he fought for her as selflessly as he had just recently defended the king and the Fatherland. The glory of the national hero was on his heels. Cossacks from the regiments of the ataman Krasnov hundreds passed to Mironov.

“Dare, clever, cunning. In battle, he saves his. After the battle, prisoners are allowed to go home with the mandate to the village brothers to stop the fratricidal slaughter. In the liberated villages gathers huge rallies. He speaks hotly, contagiously, besides, in a simple and understandable language for Cossacks, since he is local. The appeals are simply signed by “Cossack citizen Philip Mironov.” The subordinates consider him conspired by a bullet and are ready to go after him into fire and water, ”said the Chairman of the All-Russian Central Executive Committee Mikhail Kalinin, who told Lenin about the head of Mironov. To which the leader of the world proletariat, with an indescribably cunning squint, replied: "We need such people!"


In the middle of summer, Mironov was introduced into the Cossack department of the All-Russian Central Executive Committee, located in Rostov-on-Don, and at the same time placed at the head of one of the military groups. In September 1918 - February 1919, Philip Kuzmich successfully acted in the south, famously smashing the white cavalry near Tambov and Voronezh, for which he was awarded the highest at that time award of the young Soviet Republic - the Order of the Red Banner. The first such order was received by Vasily Konstantinovich Blyukher, the second - by Ion Emmanuilovich Yakir. Order number 3 was Philip Kuzmich Mironov!

Soon followed the transfer of the revolutionary hero to the Western Front, where Mironov was entrusted with command of the first Lithuanian-Belarusian, and then the 16 army. After that, just as suddenly in mid-summer, 1919 was recalled to Moscow.

Insurgency

At that time, there was a relative calm on the Western Front. But in the South, the situation for the Reds became more and more threatening - Denikin suddenly began and successfully developed an offensive against the capital.

In Moscow, Vladimir Ilyich Lenin personally met with Philip Kuzmich and brought him a new and extremely important task: to correct the situation, the Soviet government decided to hastily form in Saransk a special equestrian corps of captured Cossacks and send this compound to the Don. It was proposed to Mironov to head the Cossacks, who were given a chance to atone for imaginary and real sins before the Soviet power, in connection with which Philip Kuzmich was vested with the broadest powers.

Mironov, always sincerely ill for the Cossack case, agreed and immediately left for the Volga region. However, immediately after arriving in Saransk, I realized that he was brazenly deceived. The commissioners sent to the corps were mostly tainted by atrocities in the Don and the North Caucasus in 1918. They openly sabotaged the orders of the commander, and the Cossacks, especially the former officers, were arrogant, with undisguised hatred and distrust, pestered meticulously. In addition to this, shocking news about the massacres perpetrated by the Reds over the Cossacks in the captured villages came from their native places. And Philip Kuzmich could not resist.

22 August 1919 of the year in Saransk, a spontaneous rally of soldiers of the formed corps began, to which Mironov arrived. Instead of besieging subordinates, the commander supported the rebels. “What remains to be done by a cossack who is outlawed and subject to merciless extermination ?! - shaking his fist, Mironov angrily inquired. And he himself answered: - Only to die with bitterness !!! ... In order to save the revolutionary gains, he further stated, we are left with the only way: to overthrow the communists and avenge the desecrated justice. ” These Mironov's words were carefully recorded by political workers and employees of the Saransk Cheka, who were present at the rally, and were transferred by telegraph to Moscow.

And Mironov was already unstoppable: on August 24 he raised the not yet formed corps and moved it southward, intending, as stated in the order, “to go to Penza, to approach the Southern front and, having defeated Denikin, to restore Cossack power in the territory of the Don Cossack Army , freeing the population from the Communists. "


4 September 2000 rebellious horsemen occupied Balashov. But here were surrounded by four times superior to the forces of Budyonny. Understanding that resistance was useless, Mironov ordered that they lay down their arms: Philip Kuzmich stayed true to himself and did not want to shed Cossack blood once more. In general, it may seem surprising, but nevertheless it is a historical fact: neither in Saransk, nor along the way of the Mironovites, was a single red commander, Red Army man, commissar or security officer killed!

But Semen Mikhailovich Budyonny was not so noble and sentimental. On his orders, the commander and another 500 people were put on trial by a military tribunal, which sentenced Mironov and one in ten of those arrested to be shot. The verdict was going to be enforced at dawn on October 8. But the night before a telegram came to the following content:

“By direct wire. The cipher. Balashov. Smilge. The slowness of our attack on the Don requires a heightened political influence on the Cossacks in order to split it. For this mission, it may be possible to take advantage of Mironov, summoning him to Moscow after the sentence of execution and pardon him through the All-Russian Central Executive Committee with his commitment to go to the white rear and raise an insurrection there. I put in the Politburo of the Central Committee for discussion the question of changing the policy to the Don Cossacks. We give Don, Kuban complete autonomy, after our troops are clearing the Don. For this, the Cossacks completely break with Denikin. Adequate guarantees must be provided. Intermediaries could be Mironov and his comrades. Send your written comments along with sending Mironov and others here. In order to be careful, Mironov should be sent under mild but watchful control to Moscow. The question of his fate will be decided here. 7 October 1919 of the Year, No. 408. Pre-Military Council Trotsky.

Thus, Philip Kuzmich once again became a bargaining chip in a big political game. But he himself, of course, did not know anything, taking everything that was happening to him at face value.

In Moscow, Mironov was brought to a meeting of the political bureau of the Central Committee of the RCP (B.), Where he was publicly expressed "political trust" by the top officials of the party and the state. Moreover, Philip Kuzmich was accepted right there as a candidate member of the Communist Party and appointed Don to one of the key posts at the CEC, and a few days later his address to the Cossacks was published in the Pravda newspaper.

But, having risen in spirit, Mironov was happy not for long. Denikin's offensive on Moscow choked, the white hastily retreated to Novorossiysk, were evacuated to the Crimea, and the need for authority of Philip Kuzmich again disappeared. He, militant and renowned, but uncontrollable and masterful commander-cavalryman, became head of the land department and the anti-plague cabinet in the Don Bolshevik government. Something extraordinary had to happen, so that the Communists would again have a burning need for Mironov.

And such an event happened: in the summer of 1920, the troops of Baron Wrangel broke out of the Crimea to the operational space and launched an offensive in Northern Tavria. At the same time, the Poles, having defeated Tukhachevsky and Budyonny near Warsaw, moved east.

The outcome of the Civil War again became uncertain and unpredictable.

2-I conarmy

While the cavalry of Budyonny licked his wounds after an unsuccessful Polish campaign, on the basis of the cavalry corps, the formation of which began, but did not finish, Philip Kuzmich, 16 July 1920 of the year was deployed 2-I Cavalry Army. It includes 4 cavalry and 2 rifle divisions (a total of just over 4800 sabers, 1500 bayonets, 55 guns and 16 armored vehicles). Mironov was put in command of this armada, transferred to the Southern Front.


Already on July 26, its regiments joined the battle with Wrangel's troops and, in cooperation with the 13 army, threw them away from Aleksandrovsk. In August, horsemen Mironov broke through the front line and went for a walk along the Wrangel rears, making a daring 220-kilometer raid.

In September, 2-i Horse, bred in the reserve, rested, replenished with people and ammunition. October 8 Wrangel forced the Dnieper and launched an offensive, trying to defeat the Reds grouping at Nikopol. At first, Baron was successful: the city was taken, and the whites set their sights on the Apostolovo, then to knock over the Kakhovsky bridgehead, which was sitting with a bone in their throat, with powerful blows. It was here that they clashed with Mironov's cavalry.

The 12 – 14 of October in the fierce battles that went down in the history of the Civil War as the Nikopol-Alexander Battle, the regiments of the 2 Cavalry Army broke the cavalry corps of the white generals Babiev and Barbovich, disrupting the white intentions to join the Poles on the right bank of the Dnieper. For this victory, the commander Mironov was awarded a sword with a gilt hilt, which was sealed into the Order of the Red Banner. Philip Kuzmich, this was the second revolutionary order, at the same time he became the eighth red commander awarded an honorary revolutionary weapon.

Following the defeat of Mironov, the Wrangel suffered a cruel failure at Kakhovka and began to hastily retreat to the Crimea, trying to withdraw as soon as possible for the Perekop Isthmus. Cutting the White Paths The Revolutionary Military Council commissioned the 1 Cavalry Army. But Budyonny did not cope with this task, and the baron with the 150-thousandth army again shut up on the peninsula. People's Commissar for Military and Maritime Affairs Leon Trotsky tore and threw metal: wrathful telegrams were demanding one after another to the commander of the Southern Front, Mikhail Frunze, commanders of armies and troop groups, regardless of any the victims. "

The offensive of the Southern Front forces began on the night of November 8. The positions of the whites on the Perekop isthmus were stormed by the 6-I Red Army. For the development of success in this area, the 2-I Cavalry Army and units of the 1-th Rebel Army concentrated on the Makhno fathers. In the Chongar area, through the Sivash Bay, the 4 Army was to operate, the main task of which was to make way for the horsemen of Budyonny.

The Lithuanian Peninsula was cleared of white for the November 8 8 watch. The Turkish rampart at Perekop red stormed continuously for thirteen hours and ascended on it only in the morning of November 9. However, the Wrangel members frenzied the red parts from the isthmus with a mad counter-attack. Frunze ordered the 16 Cavalry Division of the 2 Cavalry Army and the Makhnovists to be thrown to the aid of bleeding regiments. Budyonny's army remained in place.

10 November in 3 hours 40 minutes 16-I cavalry division made a throw on the south bank of the Sivash and rushed in a rapid march to the Salty-Krasnoe interdisciplinary defile to save from complete destruction the remaining 15 and 52-ray systems. th army.

Wrangel hastily moved forward the 1 Army Corps, consisting of officer regiments, and General Barbovich's cavalry corps. On the morning of November 11, the Reds were driven back to the tip of the Lithuanian Peninsula. Barbovich's cavalry went into the rear of the 51 and Latvian divisions, fighting in the Yushun station area, and for them there was a real threat of encirclement. Moreover, the entire Crimean operation of the Southern Front of the Red Army hung in the balance.

It was then that Frunze gave the order to the 2 Horse Mounted immediately to help the units of the 6 Army to assist them "in the last battle deciding the outcome of the whole operation" (M.V. Frunze. Selected Works, v. 1, p. 418 ). Budyonny's army remained in place.

On November 11, in the morning hours, 5 Mironovtsy crossed the Sivash Bay, went to the Lithuanian Peninsula east of Karadzhan, meeting on the way the wounded of their 16 th cavalry division. And with the move rushed to the attack. A bloody battle went on all day. The battles reached special bitterness near Karpovaya Balka, where the corps of General Barbovich and the Kuban cavalry brigade, supported by the officer battalions of the Drozd and Kornilov divisions, broke through to the rear of the 51 th Infantry Red Division.

The two horse lavas drew closer together like thunderclouds: a few more hundred meters - and the cruel felling would begin. But at that moment, the red cavalry parted, and the enemy turned 300 machine gun carts Makhnovsky Kombriga Seeds Karetnik ... The rate of "maxim" is 250 – 270 shots per minute. That is, three hundred of these infernal machines in the first minute spat out at least 75 thousands of bullets in the direction of Barbovich's cavalrymen, and as many more in the second. In the open field to escape from such a quantity of lead is almost impossible!


After the death of their cavalry, the Wrangel continued an organized resistance, at the same time perfectly aware that they had already lost the battle for the Crimea. In some places, the retreat of white escalated into flight. They were pursued by the 21 and 2 of the cavalry division of the 2 Cavalry Army. Budyonny's army still remained in place.

12 November around 8 o'clock in the morning 2-I cavalry division occupied Dzhankoy station. At the same time, the main forces of the 2 Cavalry Army struck southward, in the direction of Kurman-Kemelchi station, where the enemy decided to withhold the onslaught of the Reds at any cost in order to gain time for loading on the steamers. Only after a six-hour battle, the enemy abandoned the station, huge stocks of military property and hurriedly moved to Simferopol.

This battle at Kurman-Kemelchi was the last in the Crimea. As a result of the 11 and 12 battles of November, the 2-I Cavalry Army took rich trophies and over 20 thousands of prisoners. November 15 cavalry Mironova occupied Sevastopol, and November 16 already abandoned Kerch Wrangle.

And what about the 1-I Cavalry Army?

Here is what its commander, Simon Mikhailovich Budyonny, writes in the book “The Traversed Path”: “1-I Horse went on a campaign in the morning of November 13. By this time, the 6 and 2 units of the Cavalry armies had already cut the highway to Simferopol, occupied Dzhankoy station and Kurman-Kemelchi town, where 2 brigade of 21-th Cavalry Division especially distinguished ... We went, - says the Soviet marshal - on the wounded, still smoked Crimean land, where most recently there were battles. Fallen wire obstacles, trenches, trenches, shell craters and bombs. And now a wide steppe opened before us. We spurred the horses ”(p. 140). That is, the legendary military leader himself admits that his army did not participate in the Crimean battles! But does not explain why.

And just at that time in the subsequent glorified and glorified 1-I cavalry army was extremely unreliable. Back in early October 1920, its 6 Cavalry Division, during the transfer from the Polish to the Wrangel Front, rebelled against the Bolsheviks, speaking under the slogans “Down with Trotsky!” And “Long Live Makhno!”. The rebels dispersed the political and special divisions of the division, shot or killed about two dozen commanders, commissars and security officers and marched to join the 4 cavalry division of the same 1 Horse, ready to support them. They calmed down only after they were blocked by armored trains and formed by the Communists and Komsomol members of the ChON troops subordinate to the Cheka. The instigators and the most active participants in the rebellion were shot, and new, more zealous commissars and volitional commanders were sent to the division. But in the high headquarters still continued to believe that the combat capability of these compounds is low. And then there was the army of Makhno near her ...

Mironov in those days was at the height of glory. "For executive energy and outstanding courage shown in the last battles against Wrangel," MV Frunze introduced him to the third Order of the Red Banner. The commander of the Revolutionary Military Council of the Republic, Lev Trotsky, sent the commander-in-chief of the Commissariat of Military Commissars and sent the commander’s telegram of thanks.

But immediately after her came a Jesuit, perfidious order, incomprehensible to the straightforward and inexperienced in political games Philip Kuzmich. It was he and his cavalry who were ordered to disarm recent comrades-in-arms — the 1 th Makhno Insurgent Army, Nestor Ivanovich himself — to arrest and transfer into the hands of the security officers, and his fighters “to infuse in small groups into the Red Army infantry and cavalry units.”

Makhno felt bad about the animal instincts and hurried away from the Crimea. Mironov, sent by Frunze in pursuit of yesterday’s allies, written off by the Bolsheviks, caught up with them already at Taganrog. Naturally, the Makhnovists did not want to disarm, and the case ended in several battles that put an end to the existence of the Batkina army. Makhno himself, who was shot in the face with a gunshot, with a handful of particularly close people, managed to break away from the persecution and go to Romania.

So, if in the defeat of Wrangel and the liberation of the Crimea, the 2-I Cavalry Army played one of the leading roles, then the Bolsheviks should only give thanks to Mironov for the elimination of Makhno’s army.

They thanked, but in their own way. December 6 1920, 2-I Horse was disbanded and reduced to a horse hull, which was placed in the Kuban. And Philip Kuzmich was summoned to Moscow to accept the post of Chief Inspector of the Red Army Cavalry. That is, the former commander was formally placed at the head of the entire red cavalry, but the real strength — the Don Cossacks, the souls who did not touch him and were ready to carry out any of his orders — were taken away from Mironov.

However, Philip Kuzmich did not have time to enter into a new position ...

Uprising in Mikhailovka and shot in Butyrka

On the night of December 18, a guard battalion rebelled in the village of Mikhailovka, Ust-Medveditsk District, Don Region. At the head of the rebels was his battalion commander Kirill Timofeevich Vakulin, a communist and commander of the Order of the Red Banner. The cause of the rebellion of the whole military unit was discontent with the cruelty with which the region carried out surplus, or more simply, the withdrawal of food, wheat and rye stocks prepared for spring sowing from the population.

The insurgent soldiers, who spoke under the slogan “Down with the commissars, long live the power of the people!”, Were supported by a significant part of the nearby Cossack villages. Later, the Red Army soldiers of military units sent to suppress the insurrection, as well as former Cossack officers released from prison and the PSCC, began to cross over to their side. No wonder that the number of rebels grew like a snowball. By the spring of 1921, this rebel formation numbered 9000 men, divided into three regiments, had its own machine-gun command, which had fifteen "maxims", as well as three 100 sabers each, and a battery of three field guns with fire reserves up to 200 shells. But now the conversation is not about that.

During the Civil War, Vakulin commanded a regiment in the Mironov 23 Division and was therefore well known to Philip Kuzmich. At the beginning of the rebellion, the name of the commander and his authority among the Cossacks Vakulinsky agitators were constantly used to recruit new supporters, referring to the fact that parts of the Mironovsk corps were about to come to the aid of the rebels, and Mironov himself agreed to lead the struggle "for the Soviets without communists, for the people power without commissioners. " This information reached Moscow, where they caused great concern: and, indeed, how would a military leader behave, beyond all measure, popular among the Cossacks?

And Mironov, who was supposed to be on his way to Moscow at that time, February 6 1921 suddenly appeared in Ust-Medveditskaya. Three days later, in Mikhailovka, with which the rebel battalion began, a district party conference was convened, at which Philip Kuzmich gave a speech. He described Vakulina as “an honest revolutionary and an excellent commander who rebelled against injustice.” Then Mironov spoke against such discredited phenomena as food-consuming and surplus-selling.

Further more. The dispersed Philip Kuzmich said that at this time the state is ruled by a handful of people who uncontrolledly dispose of the people’s property, while focusing on the “alien” origins of many leaders of the Communist Party and said that this situation is not normal. Mironov also dwelt on the party politics of storytelling, ending his speech by saying that it would lead the Soviet Republic to a crash that would happen no later than the fall of 1921 of the year ...


At the time when Mironov spoke at the conference, at the Archeda station, a few kilometers from Mikhaylovka, several cavalry units loyal to him began to concentrate. Located next to the Ust-Medveditsk 10 th regiment of internal service troops (the forerunner of the current Interior Ministry troops), more than half consisted of soldiers of the infantry divisions of the former 2 Cavalry Army, according to the reports of the Cheka officers, he held himself very mysteriously.

And although Mironov was not looking for direct contacts with Vakulin, in Moscow they decided to act proactively: February 12 flew into the Archeda station with a flying KGB squad. Then there was a rush to Mikhaylovka, the arrest of Mironov and five more people from his closest circle. On the same day, Philip Kuzmich was under a reinforced convoy sent to the capital, where he was imprisoned in Butyrka prison.

In prison, the former commander was kept with all severity, but he was not presented with any charges, was not taken for interrogations, and was not satisfied with confrontations. And on April 2, he was just shot dead by a sentinel from a tower while walking around the prison yard.

Surprisingly, the story has not kept a single document capable of shedding light on this mysterious murder. Interestingly, the death of Mironov was a complete surprise even for the KGB: an investigator who fabricated a case of a counter-revolutionary conspiracy learned about the death of the accused a few weeks after the fatal shot.

On whose orders was killed, and then betrayed to complete oblivion, one of the main characters of the Civil War? What is the reason for such a cruel reprisal against a person and his memory? Most likely, in the beginning of the struggle for power, so inevitable after every revolution, honest and incorruptible, straightforward and incapable of compromise, Mironov was dangerous for everyone. And each of those striving for power understood perfectly well that making it an ally in political intrigues would be very problematic. And no one would want to have such an opponent as Philip Kuzmich ...

There is another historical incident in the amazing fate of this remarkable man: in 1960, the decision of the Military Collegium of the USSR Supreme Court Philip Kuzmich Mironov was posthumously rehabilitated.

But how can someone be rehabilitated without this accusing or condemning anything?
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  1. +13
    17 January 2014 08: 23
    Mironov, a real red cavalryman, a Cossack.
    One of the first three awarded the Order of the Red Banner.
    1. +8
      17 January 2014 17: 04
      -soldered to the hilt of the Order of the Red Banner.
      Honorary weapon, with the second (!!!) OKZ soldered into the hilt.
      -Who ordered, one of the main characters of the Civil War was killed and then completely forgotten?
      The series of deaths of F. Mironov, N. Schors, V. Bozhenko, T. Chernyak, A. Zheleznyakov, G. Kotovsky, Dumenko ... version, SIMILAR, only one: the systematic destruction by Trotsky and Co of elected commanders (atamans) of the first period of the Civil . And the conflict between Mironov and Trotsky began at the beginning of the construction of the spacecraft, when Mironov laid down a couple of commissioners sent to Trotsky, and as luck would have it for the Jews ...
      PS In honor of the victory over the Wrangelites and in memory of those who died fighting with them, the residents of the village of Sholokhov (Dnepropetrovsk region) poured a mound of Eternal Glory and erected a memorial plaque on it in 1967 during the celebration of the 50th anniversary of the Great October Revolution. One of the best streets in the village is named after the 2nd Cavalry Army.
      PP.S Budyonny's parents (respectively, Semyon Mikhailovich himself) were not Cossacks, but nonresident, that is, immigrants from the Russian and Ukrainian provinces settled on the Don. “Proletagius on a horse”, imagining himself “Macedonian from the proletariat” (as defined by Leiba Bronstein) participated in punitive operations against the Cossacks.
      1. +5
        17 January 2014 19: 34
        and from what do you give out such comments? were you there like duncan macleod? I think you have not read the books of Boris Karpenko. he did not write a bad word about Budyonny, although his works are dedicated specifically to Dumenko Boris Mokeevich, whom I consider the founder of the 1st Horse. secondly, according to your, mind you, Dumenko's terminology is also "A horseman on horseback." thirdly, both Dumenko and Budyonny, if at the fronts of the First World War, did not sit in the rear, why the proof of the "iconostasis" on their tunics. Do you think Boris Dumenko did not chop the Cossacks? chopped personally, and from the heart. and also sent Trotsky on an erotic journey on foot.
  2. +16
    17 January 2014 09: 05
    These were real Cossacks, not mummers.
  3. Beck
    +1
    17 January 2014 09: 29
    So commies dealt with the national leaders. And then with the people.
    1. +14
      17 January 2014 10: 08
      Hi Beck!
      I must note that the "komunyaki" were also very different ... They fought for different goals ...
      1. Beck
        +2
        17 January 2014 13: 18
        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
        I must say that the "komunyaki" were also very different ... They stood for different goals.


        Commies are not different, as they profess one idea. And the idea is contrary to the essence of humanity. There is not a big difference between the commissar, the guard, the poor man, the Chekist, the idealist, the romantic, for they are all communists.

        They wanted everyone, how to say it, to even out, or something. But people are never equal. One is higher, the other is stronger, the other is smarter, the other is red-haired, the other is a muddler, the other does not care, the other with criminal inclinations, etc. And there is no such society, even hypothetically, to make them all equal in aspirations, in ideology, at the social level.

        Smart will live better than a fool. Awesome is better to play basketball. The nihilist will not go to the polls in any situation.

        And the goal ?. Good intentions laid the road to Hell. Hitler's fascists also wanted good for the German people. It is not necessary for the communists and fascists to go somewhere and realize their ideas among themselves, for example, in the taiga, on an island. So no, they definitely need to drag everyone by the collar to their crazy mind-building. And most importantly, there is no way to leave those who disagree alone, because all of them are in concentration camps, against the wall, into Nothingness.

        Marx, as a theoretician, could not trace his theory in dynamics. He thought that manufactory labor of the mid-19th century would remain for centuries. Because of this false promise, he created an unrighteous theory. He could not, but if the theoretician had to foresee the Scientific and Technical Revolution. Look at the modern lines of factories and factories, how many see the working class there. There is none, everywhere robots and machines. So the calculations about the hegemonic society of Marx were also false. Now the hegemon of society is R&D and Services.
        1. +5
          17 January 2014 14: 31
          Beck "There is no big difference between a commissar, a warden, a Bedkomist, a Chekist, an idealist, a romantic, because they are all communists."
          And the romantics in the communists? Hehe ... and optimists too? If so, the company is not bad ....
          1. Beck
            -6
            17 January 2014 17: 36
            Quote: Nagaibak
            And the romantics in the communists? Hehe ... and optimists too? If so, the company is not bad ...


            You do not understand the context. All ideas begin with the dreams of romantics, then turn into an idea, then into a theory, well, and then into practice. And the romantic revolutionaries were beyond their pink dreams and did not see that the pink color would necessarily degenerate into a bloody one.

            Quote: DAGESTANETS333
            -There are! - A classic example, Stalin and Trotsky. Yes, both outwardly adhered to one idea, but how did they understand it? After all, they understood differently ...


            They were different in their habits, inclinations, and preferences. But they were united in deciding to cut down everything that did not fit in their head, which was outside their idea, at the root.

            And the kulak, this standard of prudent housekeeping, and the engineer, and the priest did not care who shot them Stalin, Trotsky or the guard or the poor man. They knew only one thing - the New Government replaced paradise with a ghostly and impracticable communism; for its idea, it was ready to lay not only the people, but all of humanity on the altar of a new faith.

            Quote: DAGESTANETS333
            And who said that Socialism-Communism is "crazy minds"?


            On this page of the site I said. Based on historical moments that took place before our eyes. Everywhere where there was socialism, it was imposed by force, and not by the will of the peoples. And did not stand the test of time. In the 90 years, socialism, everywhere in the world, sang the hallelujah to itself. And without blood, but because it has rotted.

            History has left one place on the globe with socialism as an example of HOW TO LIVE NOT. And he is a small reflection of the former USSR. There is complete socialism. One idea at all. Everyone keeps up. They work from dawn to dawn, to no avail, receiving money from these still. Special services are sitting in everyone's skull and watching their thoughts. There is an iron curtain. There are slogans and plans. And there, the beloved leader, like Stalin, is just as cruel, heartless, ready to shed rivers of blood, only without a mustache, small and round. This is the DPRK with Eun. And they have an atomic bomb and a threat to the whole environment.

            DPRK and South Korea. This is one people, one mentality, one tradition, one habit. But 60 years ago, socialism began to be built in the north. In the south, they continued to live an ordinary life. South Korea is now in prosperity and in the forefront of human progress. North Korea in poverty and in the margins of history.
            1. -9
              17 January 2014 17: 38
              Quote: Beck
              History has left one place on the globe with socialism as an example of HOW TO LIVE NOT. And he is a small reflection of the former USSR. There is complete socialism. One idea at all. Everyone keeps up. They work from dawn to dawn, to no avail, receiving money from these still. Special services are sitting in everyone's skull and watching their thoughts. There is an iron curtain. There are slogans and plans. And there, the beloved leader, like Stalin, is just as cruel, heartless, ready to shed rivers of blood, only without a mustache, small and round. This is the DPRK with Eun. And they have an atomic bomb and a threat to the whole environment.

              Beck, Greetings !!!
              It is always a pleasure to read you. Briefly, clearly, I hope for many intelligibly.
              1. Beck
                -7
                17 January 2014 18: 17
                Quote: atalef
                Beck, Greetings !!!
                It is always a pleasure to read you. Briefly, clearly, I hope for many intelligibly.


                Hi Hi!!!

                Thank you. How can I write. I just think there are those for which it’s not something that is not intelligible, but also not acceptable.

                For me, those who are nostalgic and yearning for socialism, for the firm hand of the leader, should not moan, but move to permanent residence in the DPRK. There their longing will end and nostalgia will pass. Everything is socialist there. They will be happy if they do not run into the "damned" market hypostasis in a couple of weeks.
            2. +11
              17 January 2014 18: 47
              Beck, it looks like you are a fan of dividing the world into a "race of masters" and a "race of slaves" ... It is clear that the "race of masters" was always, in a panic fear, that "slaves", i.e. the people will gain any significant power over their own destiny. Therefore, with the last bit of strength, they still defeated the stronghold of justice on earth - the USSR, therefore, for the amusement of everyone, they extinguish all socialist scraps on earth that disagree with the "gentlemen", such as the DPRK, with which they stupidly cut off all trade, contrary to common sense ... The main thing is to show the cattle how bad everything that does not suit the "masters", all dissent, must be turned into the "kingdom of the idiot Eun" ...
              But the fact that the "prison of nations" went around the world! in terms of the pace of technological development, in terms of social security, it is modestly silent ... People like you will talk hoarsely about anything, but not about the colossal achievements and potential of the state, where the people decide for themselves where and at what pace to go.

              Beck, if I was mistaken about your position, then I'm sorry.
              1. Beck
                +2
                18 January 2014 11: 08
                Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                Beck, it looks like you are a fan of dividing the world into a "race of masters" and a "race of slaves" ...


                I didn’t think about it, these are your inventions that you want to ascribe to me.

                Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                such as North Korea, with which all trade was stupidly cut off, contrary to common sense ...


                DPRK, the world community has repeatedly said that it should end the policy of blackmail and the threat of nuclear weapons. The DPRK is a stinker at this, and sanctions have been imposed. The DPRK will stop brandishing an atomic club and everything will be restored. And at the moment, the world community in the person of South Korea, the USA, China, and Japan supplies food to the DPRK free of charge. Since socialism cannot feed itself.

                Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                Therefore, from the last forces, they still defeated the stronghold of justice on earth - the USSR


                Who defeated the USSR? What were the economic sanctions, besides the new know-how, that Canada and the USA did not sell wheat to the USSR, that someone had occupied the USSR, that someone had destroyed the economy?

                The USSR itself collapsed, because the doctrine of the social system was incorrect and could not stand the test of time.

                Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                But the fact that the "prison of nations" went around the world! by the rate of technological development, by the level of social security,


                If all this was in real life the USSR would not fall apart. These are your propaganda echoes from the grave of socialism.

                Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                People like you will talk hoarsely about anything, but not about the colossal achievements and potential of the state, where the people themselves decide where and at what pace to go.


                And why should I wheeze? When the whole world saw firsthand the collapse of the socialist system and the demise of the doctrine of socialism.

                And the peoples of Eastern Europe, Southeast Asia, the USSR in 90 years SAMI AND DECIDEDthat it’s not worth going towards communism. There are only unrealizable promises and a paradise for nomenclature.
        2. +11
          17 January 2014 15: 05
          Quote: Beck
          Commies are not different, as they profess one idea

          -There are! - A classic example, Stalin and Trotsky. Yes, both outwardly adhered to one idea, but how did they understand it? After all, they understood differently ...
          Quote: Beck
          So no, they definitely need to drag everyone by the collar to their crazy mind-building

          And who said that Socialism-Communism is "crazy minds"? In my opinion, this system is quite acceptable for the development of society. I believe that the state created by the communists has shown the historically best results in terms of the rate of human development. And so many millions of people think. Do you have the right to give a verdict - "crazy minds" in this case, what do you think?
        3. 0
          14 October 2016 19: 26
          Quote: Beck
          Now the hegemon of society is R&D and Services.

          Dear expert on Marx. And in your "hegemon" there are masters and there are hired workers. Do some work for yourself, dear bek, read "Capital". I have no doubt that you will continue to hate the communists, as it should be for beks and other Central Asian feudal lords. But at least it would be a shame to write such nonsense.
        4. 0
          8 September 2023 14: 06
          A lot of words. Your theory is rotten, if only because the Bolsheviks, despite all their mistakes, were supported by the absolute majority of the people, otherwise they would not have lasted even a couple of months in power. The Bolsheviks did not pull anyone by the collar, although- would be because they did not have such opportunities to pull such a mass of people by the collar who supported them. And then the literate, the Bolsheviks never equated fat with thin, long with short, or blondes with brunettes, but gave everyone equal opportunities, which is why - then with them there became a huge number of scientists, writers, military leaders, etc. from the common people, who simply would not have appeared under the conditions of a different formation. It was they who turned an illiterate peasant country into a world superpower in a quarter of a century. The “theorist” on stilts understood.
      2. 0
        20 January 2014 20: 20
        they argued, only the owners were distinguished by the presence of honor.
    2. predator.3
      +11
      17 January 2014 11: 06
      Quote: Beck
      At present, the state is ruled by a handful of people who uncontrollably dispose of the property of the people, while focusing on the audience "Foreign" the origin of many leaders of the Communist Party and said that this situation is abnormal


      At that time, the "ball" ruled, just these furry foreigners, it was they who sat in the Cheka and in batches they shot the people, mainly Russians and Cossacks.
      1. -3
        17 January 2014 12: 14
        Here is the composition of the Soviet government. Which of them besides Trotsky is a Jew? People are all famous, you can google them.
        Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars - Vladimir Ulyanov (Lenin)
        People's Commissar for Internal Affairs - A. I. Rykov
        People's Commissar of Agriculture - V.P. Milyutin
        People's Commissar of Labor - A.G. Shlyapnikov
        People's Commissariat for Military and Maritime Affairs - a committee composed of: V.A.Ovseenko (Antonov) (in the text of the Decree on the formation of the SNK - Avseenko), N.V. Krylenko and P.E.Dybenko
        People's Commissar for Trade and Industry - V.P. Nogin
        People's Commissar of Public Education - A. V. Lunacharsky
        People's Commissar of Finance - I. I. Skvortsov (Stepanov)
        People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs - L. D. Bronstein (Trotsky)
        People's Commissar of Justice - G.I. Oppokov (Lomov)
        People's Commissar for Food - I.A.Teodorovich
        People's Commissar of Posts and Telegraphs - N.P. Avilov (Glebov)
        People's Commissar for Nationalities - I. V. Dzhugashvili (Stalin)
        The post of People's Commissar for Rail Affairs remained temporarily not replaced.
        The vacant post of People's Commissar for Rail Affairs later took M.T. Elizarov. On November 12, in addition to the Decree on the creation of the Council of People's Commissars, Kollontai, Alexandra Mikhailovna, the first woman minister in the world, was appointed People's Commissar of State Charity. On November 19, Essen, Eduard Eduardovich, was appointed Commissar of State Control.
        1. predator.3
          +15
          17 January 2014 13: 24
          Council of People's Commissars (Council of People's Commissars, SNK) 1918 g .:
          Lenin - chairman, Chicherin - foreign affairs, Russian; Lunacharsky - enlightenment, Jew; Dzhugashvili (Stalin) - nationalities, Georgians; Protian - agriculture, Armenian; Larin (Lurie) - Economic Council, Jew; Schlichter - supply, Jew; Trotsky (Bronstein) - army and navy, Jew; Lander - state control, Jew; Kaufman - state property, Jew; V. Schmidt - work, Jew; Lilina (Knigissen) - public health, Jewish woman; Svalbard - cults, Jew; Zinoviev (Apfelbaum) - internal affairs, Jew; Anvelt - hygiene, Jew; Isidor Gukovsky - finance, Jew; Volodarsky - seal, Jew; Uritsky — elections, Jew; I. Steinberg - justice, Jew; Fengstein - refugees, Jew.
          In total, of the 20-ty of people's commissars - one Russian, one Georgian, one Armenian and 17 Jews.

          from there from wikipedia.
          1. -1
            17 January 2014 15: 23
            You know, the topic interests me and I crawled according to your tip on the list of Mr. Diky and it turns out, some information there, that this is another fraud.
            The “Jewish" character of the Council of People's Commissars was obtained through fraud: it was not the first composition of the Council of People's Commissars, which was published in the decree of the Second Congress of Soviets, that was mentioned, but only those drug commissions that had ever been headed by Jews were pulled out of the many times changing SNK compositions. So, Trotsky L. D., appointed to this post on 8 of April 1918 of the year, is mentioned as the people's commissar for military and naval affairs, and Schlichter A. G., who really occupied this post, but only until February 25 of 1918 and by the way, was not a Jew. At the time when Trotsky really became the drug commander, the Great Russian Zurup A.D., instead of Schlichter, already became a drug trademark. Another method of fraud is the invention of a number of never existing drug addicts [10].
            So, Andrei Dikim in the list of people's commissariats mentioned the never-existent people's commissariats for cults, elections, refugees, and hygiene.
            Volodarsky is referred to as the People's Commissar of the press; in fact, he was indeed the commissar of the press, propaganda and agitation, but not the people's commissar, a member of the Council of People's Commissars (that is, actually the government), but the commissar of the Union of Northern Communes [11] (regional union of Soviets [12] [13]), an active conductor of the Bolshevik Press Decree [14].
            And, on the contrary, the list does not contain, for example, the actually existing People’s Commissariat of Railways and the People’s Commissariat of Posts and Telegraphs.
            As a result, Andrei Dikogo doesn’t even agree on the number of drug addicts: he mentions the number of 20, although there were 14 people in the first roster, in 1918 the number was increased to 18. Some positions are indicated with errors. So, the chairman of the Petrosoviet, G. E. Zinoviev, was mentioned as a people's commissar, although he never held this position. The administration of “agriculture” has been attributed to the drug of post and telegraphs Proshyan (here - “Protian”). Jews were arbitrarily attributed to a number of people, for example, the Russian nobleman A. V. Lunacharsky, the Estonian Anvelt I. Ya., The Russified Germans Schmidt V. V. and Lander K.I., etc.
          2. Drosselmeyer
            +4
            17 January 2014 18: 39
            And Lunacharsky, what side is the Jew here? Father — Antonov Alexander Ivanovich, State Councilor, mother — Maria Ivanovna Rostovtseva. The surname from stepfather - Vasily Fedorovich Lunacharsky - is a Pole, whose gentry whose surname, in turn, is the result of a rearrangement of syllables in the surname “Charnalusky”.
            How much can these idle fantasies produce? This list has been criticized for falsity three hundred times, but it is still being posted.
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    4. +3
      17 January 2014 15: 16
      Who were you before 1991? Is it really an anti-Soviet partisan underground, or a political prisoner, a dissident? Or were the Herrosky disguised in the ranks of the CPSU?
      1. -1
        17 January 2014 15: 26
        Quote: RoTTor
        Who were you before 1991? Is it really an anti-Soviet partisan underground, or a political prisoner, a dissident? Or were the Herrosky disguised in the ranks of the CPSU?

        I graduated from school.
  4. +19
    17 January 2014 09: 31
    You may not believe the people, but my great-grandfather, with a very pronounced Semitic appearance and with even more pronounced Jewish names, served in the 2th Horse Army as deputy commander of the machine gun division and always told his grandson (my father) about exceptional courage and Mironov’s astounding personal decency. So much for the Jewish-Cossack contradictions.
    1. +2
      17 January 2014 10: 39
      Read Solzhenitsyn's "Two Hundred Years Together". The bulk of the Jews, having received complete liberation, did not accept the Bolsheviks in the February Revolution. At the same time, some part of the younger generation of Jews, who had lost ties with both communities and their God, having received a university education, took an active part in the revolution and in the genocide of the Russian people. When officials refused to go to work and all ministries were paralyzed, Lenin asked these young Jews to help the revolution in this difficult moment. So the Jews ended up at the head of ministries, departments and the like. If not for them, the Bolshevik revolution would not have existed for more than a month. It was they who turned out to be the lubricant that lubricated the mechanisms of the state machine. Later, having embarked on this path, they sunk to participation and to the planning of repressions and executions. Especially shameful is their leadership and direct participation in the destruction of the Russian Orthodox clergy and the plundering of churches. Solzhenitsyn accuses Jewish communities only of failing to keep the most educated part of their younger generation under control.
      1. garlik
        +1
        17 January 2014 11: 12
        And who was the majority of the Bolsheviks?
        1. 0
          17 January 2014 12: 09
          Quote: garlik
          And who was the majority of the Bolsheviks?
          Well, something like this.
          According to V.V. Zhuravlev's research, as of 1907, among the Bolsheviks there were up to 78% of Russians and Ukrainians, 11% of Jews, as of 1917, about 50% of Russians, 20% of Ukrainians, 20% of Jews and 10% of others. a large percentage of Jews was characteristic of a number of other opposition parties. Among the Mensheviks in 1907, there were 34% of Russians, 29% of Georgians, 23% of Jews. Researcher V. V. Krivenkiy counts among the anarchists as of 1905-1907 50% of Jews and 41% of Russians (see also Political Parties of Russia in 1917). At the same time, among the cadets, Russians accounted for 88%, Jews - 6%.
          1. +2
            17 January 2014 12: 32
            In the government of the 17th out of 550, approximately 450 were from the Semites.
            1. 0
              17 January 2014 15: 31
              hang out with fresh vodka.
              Government of 450 people. people it happens and cannot be.
              It is in Ukraine today they are playing in the "power of the Maidan", but there the Americans pay over the heads standing in the square
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          2. 0
            17 January 2014 12: 32
            In the government of the 17th out of 550, approximately 450 were from the Semites.
            1. -2
              17 January 2014 12: 36
              You are inattentive. Above is a list of the first Council of People's Commissars.
          3. garlik
            +3
            17 January 2014 14: 00
            That is, out of less than 1% of the population, almost 45% have in the composition of various parties.
            1. -2
              17 January 2014 15: 17
              Quote: garlik
              That is, out of less than 1% of the population, almost 45% have in the composition of various parties.

              All the same, from 5% to 1913 year. But it's not that . It was the most legislatively pressed people. Any action gives rise to opposition.
              1. garlik
                +3
                17 January 2014 15: 58
                That is, the persecution of the Spaniards, the Inquisition, etc. this is so nonsense. And the Pale of Settlement oppressed people?
                1. Beck
                  +1
                  18 January 2014 11: 31
                  Quote: garlik
                  That is, the persecution of the Spaniards, the Inquisition, etc. this is so nonsense. And the Pale of Settlement oppressed people?


                  I always wondered why there were many Jews who went into the revolution and eventually came to my conclusion.

                  The massive millennial persecution of the Jewish people ended in Europe in the 18th and 17th centuries. The pogroms of Jews in the Russian Empire continued in the 19th and early 20th centuries. "Hit ... dov, save Russia." And this is in addition to legislative prosecution.

                  These pogroms, with the tacit consent of the authorities and the tacit approval of the church, were regular and inevitable, with ruin, with beating, with blood and death.

                  These are the Jewish youths of the mid-19th century who saw the beating of their people, the blood of their mothers and sisters, the death of their loved ones and went into revolution. Because they did not see another way, if he was, to stop the orgy of the pogroms. Well, of course this is not the only reason.
      2. erg
        +1
        17 January 2014 16: 19
        I must upset you, but the conflict between the ordinary Russian people and the church has centuries-old roots. Tell me at least one Russian folk tale where a representative of the church would be a positive hero. But in the archives you can find a lot of cases about robbery perpetrated by monasteries and local church authorities. There was even the taking of the peasants along with the land from the landlords and transferring them under the authority of the church, where the conditions of the "fortress" were much worse. What aroused indignation among the landlords. This is especially true for the time of Catherine the Great. It was under her that they came to grips with this issue (before that, as a rule, the supreme power covered the church, especially in the 15-17 centuries), which led to the transfer of serf church peasants to the category of state ones. A lot is also known about the conflicts between the peasants and the church (up to the murder of representatives of the latter in the villages, caused literally by robbery by representatives of the clergy, black clergy.). Read what caused the indignation of the people in Moscow during the cholera in the 18th century, which was accompanied by the looting of churches. And this is an Orthodox people, not any Jews or Bolsheviks.
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    3. +2
      17 January 2014 15: 25
      Primakov’s Ukrainian Red Cossacks formed in the Pale of Settlement, so there were many Jews there.
      As in the army of Makhno.
      And the rioters-Petlyurovtsy were afraid of them, like fire.
      Do you think the replica of the fascist general in "17 Moments" about the "velvet Bolshevik Cossacks" is random?
  5. +8
    17 January 2014 09: 54
    God forbid Russia to survive another civil war. How destructive and meaningless they are.
  6. +8
    17 January 2014 09: 57
    Equally tragic is the fate of yet another hero of the civil war, B.M. Dumenko, the creator of the 1st Cavalry Army, who, due to a severe wound, could not complete the formation of the army .. Used exceptional authority as a talented military leader, was awarded the Order of the Red Fighting banner, if not mistaken, N5. In1920, on a false accusation (the story is very murky and not completely clarified as in the case of Mironov) he was shot and rehabilitated in the 60s. A characteristic moment - the only military leader who opposed rehabilitation was S.M.Budenny, who went through the entire civil war Dumenko's deputies ...
    1. +2
      17 January 2014 15: 17
      Quote: ranger
      S.M.Budenny, who went to Dumenko’s deputies throughout the civil war ...

      This is not true.
      Budyonny was with Dumenko for a very short time. Far from "the entire civil war", and not even a quarter of it.
      Come on, without imagination. They do not decorate anyone.
      In addition, Budyonny, after leaving Dumenko, made a career, and Dumenko was stuck at the level of the division commander. Its corps of three-brigade staff in 1920 was actually a division - 3500 sabers. All four divisions in the Budyonny army had such numbers. In many ways, a career stop occurred due to the rare ability of Dumenko to make enemies. The same Budyonny was also threatened with execution. But he found influential intercessors who ignored Trotsky himself (Stalin, Voroshilov). But no one stood up for Dumenko. Accidentally? I don’t think so.
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      2. 0
        17 January 2014 18: 23
        So let's do it without fantasies - and the facts are such that Dumenko’s career was interrupted due to a severe wound in May 1919, as a result of which a part of his lung and several ribs were removed from him and his right hand worked poorly, and not because of the ability to make enemies (although like all talent they probably had, like Mironov and the same Chapaev). There are no enemies, usually among mediocrity ... It is probably no coincidence that after recovering in the fall of 1919 it was Dumenko who was tasked with forming the 2nd Horse-drawn corps, which brilliantly manifested itself in subsequent battles. And to the commissars he, like many commanders of that period, had a cool attitude - already the eternal relations of Chapaev and Furmanov ... So, this is by no means a fantasy ..
        1. 0
          17 January 2014 19: 08
          I would like to add that an opinion different from yours is not a fantasy and many people who write on the forum are not at all ignorant - you didn’t participate in the civil war either and read something somewhere ... Therefore, it’s not imagination that adorns, but a look at others for some reason, from top to bottom and teachings ...
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      3. Beck
        +1
        17 January 2014 18: 41
        Maybe not everyone knows what command "General" Makhno's father Semyon Karetnikov gave to his machine gunners on carts, who mowed down the white cavalry.

        Looking around the approaching horse lava, Semyon Karetnikov ordered - BAGS, ROBY DIRT. And the machine gunners mixed the earth, horses, people into the mud.

        By the way, the legendary Red Army tachanka just went from carts with machine guns Semyon Karetnik and Old Man Makhno.

        On the occasion of a joke.
        In Soviet times, a Kazakh guide leads a delegation of Muscovites in Almaty showing sights. Leads them to the monument of Amangeldy Imanov.
        - And this is Amangeldy Imanov, the leader of a major uprising of the Kazakhs against the tsarist autocracy in 1916.
        The guide sees that for most Muscovites this is unknown and not clear. Guide.
        - Do you know Old Man Makhno?
        Everyone nods their heads. Guide.
        - So Imanov is three times worse than Makhno.
  7. pahom54
    +11
    17 January 2014 09: 58
    I quote from the article; "Further - more. The dispersed Philip Kuzmich said that at this time the state is ruled by a handful of people who uncontrollably dispose of the property of the people, while focusing the attention of those gathered on the" foreign "origin of many leaders of the Communist Party and said that such a situation is abnormal" ...
    Does it remind you of anything ???
    I read about him in snatches before, and was generally amazed that in some places and somehow, but they still remembered and wrote about him !!! And since I learned about Mironov, my attitude towards Budyonny has changed, and, in fact, I considered him a great intriguer more than a great commander ...
    And the fate of Mironov ... He was not the only one, there were many, but such people were simply used and destroyed.
    Bright memory to him.
    1. +5
      17 January 2014 11: 15
      I will add that the attitude of the population (where these two horsemen managed to visit) was like heaven and earth. Babel wrote with horror about the 1-Horse even (as far as the censorship allowed) and everyone knows about the principles of decency and justice, which the commander of the 2-Horse adhered to. It was fair to say that white people with such principles. In my opinion, the fate of General Slashchev is very interesting (the prototype is reflected in the film "Running" according to Bulgakov, in my opinion)
      1. -4
        17 January 2014 15: 09
        According to the stories of eyewitnesses who survived the Civil and uncountable number of changes in power, the most “robberies, violence against civilians and captives" differed "(in terms of atrocities and bestiality):
        1. Petliurists and Grigoryevtsy,
        2. Denikinites
        3. Kalmyks - that of the First Horse ("eagles" of Gorodovikov), that of the white troops. Well this is understandable why.

        The civilians were calmer then ... under the Germans. This stereotype of many failed in 1941.
        Not bad remembered the Reds and Makhnovists.
        1. +3
          17 January 2014 15: 28
          Quote: RoTTor
          Kalmyks - that of the First Horse ("eagles" of Gorodovikov)

          There were very few Kalmyks in the Red Army.
          There was almost no horse in the 1st.
          The vast majority of Kalmyks in the Civil War fought for the whites. Among them were the Kalmyk division of the Don Army, as well as the Astrakhan Cossack Division, in which the Cossacks were in the minority, and the bulk were Kalmyks in Cossack form. The Kalmyks, on the other hand, consisted mainly of Denikin's punitive detachments.
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      3. erg
        0
        17 January 2014 19: 36
        I read Babel, his First Horse. I saw nothing terrible. Quite a normal product. By the way, in Tolstoy’s Torment, in some episodes, where, as it more strictly describes reality. And Pikul, in my works, in general, in my opinion, surpassed everyone.
        1. 0
          9 October 2016 09: 43
          Quote: erg
          And Pikul, in my works, in general, in my opinion, surpassed everyone.

          One more "expert" of Valentin Savvich's creativity has appeared! fool Actually, there is only one novel "Out of the Dead End", dedicated to the civil war in the Russian North. He did not "twist" anyone there! stop So don’t tryndy and will not tryndy. negative
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  8. +5
    17 January 2014 10: 11
    And on April 2, he was simply shot dead by a sentry from the tower while walking in a prison yard.

    I think Trotsky-BRONSTEIN had a hand.
    1. -4
      17 January 2014 14: 56
      C exactly the opposite.
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  9. +6
    17 January 2014 10: 22
    My grandfather served in the 2nd Cavalry and rose there to the castle. I never talked about this, as well as about that. after the Civil War, he found himself in Moscow and worked all his life as an assistant engineer on a shunting steam locomotive.
    1. +1
      17 January 2014 19: 00
      You had a clever grandfather, if he hadn't worked his whole life as an assistant driver on a shunting locomotive and if he had told him that he was a Cossack and the deputy commander of the 2nd Cavalry Army, he would not have had that very "whole life" like a very large number of Cossacks who fell under the millstones of the punitive operations of the Bolsheviks ...
  10. demorev
    -2
    17 January 2014 11: 50
    "He spoke out against such discredited phenomena as food detachments and surplus appropriation" - what nonsense, if it were not for the surplus appropriation, the population of cities would have died of hunger, since the normal trade turnover was disrupted, only the Bolsheviks understood this and solved this problem, and the whites were for it don't give a damn. The article is biased in favor of the hero of the article.
    1. +5
      17 January 2014 13: 18
      I think it’s a lot more complicated: on the one hand, it was necessary to feed those who were involved in industry because the formation of the state as a whole depended on it, on the other, if there were freak performers on the ground, the concept of justice was sometimes distorted, and the sense of duty was intertwined with human vices like revenge, envy, etc. plus ignorance and natural dullness played a negative role.
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    3. -1
      17 January 2014 15: 44
      Quote: demorev
      since the normal turnover was broken,

      And who violated it? the pope?
      Quote: demorev
      and white didn't give a damn about it

      Even the Red Intelligence Service in 1919 recognized that with the arrival of the Denikinites in Ukraine and in southern Russia, food prices fell. If necessary, I will find a link. This is on the site of "militar ru", there is a whole heap of reports from agents of the Cheka and the Intelligence Directorate of the Red Army. And even a communist to the marrow of his bones, Comrade Furmanov admitted that under Kolchak in the Urals it was nourishing than after his defeat.
      only the Bolsheviks understood this and solved this problem,

      The merit is small - to create a problem, and then solve it with heroic efforts. If someone set fire to the house, burned it halfway, and then began to extinguish the fire - should he be given an order? But not too much?
  11. smersh70
    +1
    17 January 2014 12: 37
    ..in films like Walking through the agony. (as in 1 film and in 2 film) he is shown such a reveler ... an anarchist .... a clean-up officer ... and the commissars are all so correct ... Suslov’s head yet bully
  12. +5
    17 January 2014 13: 09
    Good memory to the Cossack Philip Kuzmich Mironov. Damn any civil war that destroys such talented people.
  13. +1
    17 January 2014 13: 37
    It is usually indicated that from July 16 to September 6, 1920, the commander of 2KA was the Oka Gorodovikov.
  14. +1
    17 January 2014 13: 59
    Philip Kuzmich Mironov is one of the thousands of heroes of Russia unjustly forgotten, like Boris Mokeevich Dumenko. The emergence and formation of the Red Cavalry is their merit. S.M. Budyonny just appeared in the right place at the right time. Together with Voroshilov K.E. remained from the cohort of the first Soviet marshals. And were so frightened by repressions that during the Second World War he practically They did not show in any way, on the contrary, in the thirties they interfered with the motorization and mechanization of the red army. During the Second World War, one in the south, the other near Leningrad, "distinguished themselves". And how many outstanding military leaders were cleaned up before the beginning of the Second World War, maybe the war began and ended differently?
  15. +2
    17 January 2014 14: 16
    How many white spots in our history, how much we do not know about our country ... I advise you to read "Mironov. Legendary commander" by Vladimir Kasyanov on the website Proza.ru ... Igor Talkov - singer and composer dedicated a well-known song to Philip Mironov "The former pissed up".

    Unified approaches to the teaching of history do not mean official, ideologized unanimity. The most dramatic and controversial events are an integral part of our history. Domestic history is the basis of our national identity, cultural national code. The objective of the school course is to give key facts about the history and the affairs of our compatriots. We ourselves voluntarily or involuntarily belittle what has been done by our ancestors. Why we do this, I do not understand. We need to instill respect for our own past and love for our homeland, ”said Vladimir Putin.
    1. +1
      17 January 2014 19: 43
      Another book about him "The Life and Death of Philip Kuzmich Mironov", authors R.A. Medvedev, S.P. Mironova, 1989
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  19. 0
    17 January 2014 14: 44
    The prostitute Trotsky and his fifth column are to blame for everything.
    1. +1
      17 January 2014 15: 14
      It is time to ventilate the brains from the 1937 stamps about the Trotskyite conspiracy. And then the head will go bad. Read the story, but think with your head, otherwise it will deteriorate from non-use.
      1. +1
        18 January 2014 00: 00
        Maybe something is about time, but I didn’t hear or see something, so that Bronstein (Trotsky) did after his exile, in addition to founding and leading the opposition Fourth Comintern in 1938 (and before that he had been saving for breakfast for 9 years) in one of the most dangerous moments for the country (World War II). Some figures of a lower flight than Bronstein were able to preserve the remnants of honor and not betray the country. Even the White Guard Bubnov did not oppose Soviet Russia during the Third Reich, Abel did not betray the country when he was captured and shone from above.
        Maybe there was no conspiracy, but still there was comrade I.V. Stalin who organized the country, tore it from the plow, led through a terrible war and left the country with the greatest army, the greatest scientists, the greatest commanders and nuclear weapons. He was respected not only by his people, but also by his political opponents.
        Ask anyone in any country, even a little educated, remember Stalin. But who will remember Bronstein?
        1. 0
          18 January 2014 04: 13
          In the West, Trotsky is very well known, no less than Lenin. We didn’t know him. The demon of revolution, if a world revolution had occurred, it would have been primarily his merit. I saw in the 80s on television demonstrations with portraits of Trotsky, it seems in South America somewhere.
    2. -1
      17 January 2014 15: 14
      It is time to ventilate the brains from the 1937 stamps about the Trotskyite conspiracy. And then the head will go bad. Read the story, but think with your head, otherwise it will deteriorate from non-use.
  20. 0
    17 January 2014 14: 53
    There are inaccuracies, but not the point.
    Two of them are just rude:
    - “a simple Cossack” who rose to the headquarters of an officer rank and was awarded with so many high orders automatically received all the rights of a SUBSIDIARY nobleman;
    - two rifle divisions cannot have a strength ... a regiment of full staff;

    Here it is worth focusing on this:
    1. The objective factor.
    Put yourself in the shoes of state leaders. And honestly answer yourself, how would you feel about an impulsive, unpredictable and unreliable military leader (even seen in this article), the same commander of a large and maneuverable military unit?


    2. Subjective.
    Human envy and jealousy on the part of the pioneers, who, thanks to the full support of I.V. Stalin, who from the time of Tsaritsin considered the First Horse to be his own, took all key posts in the Red Army.

    Moreover, Mironov was a creature of the real creator of the Red Army of Trotsky. All those who were put forward and supported by Trotsky were sooner or later eaten by the first-movers. The list would be too long.
    1. +1
      17 January 2014 16: 07
      Quote: RoTTor
      who from the time of Tsaritsin considered the First Horse to be his own

      During Tsaritsyn’s defense, there was no 1st cavalry yet, even in the project.
      If you do not know, then Mironov also participated in the Tsaritsyn defense. And far from ordinary. He was the head of one of the three sections of the Tsaritsyno front.
      Read more closely the history of the Civil War.
      1. +3
        17 January 2014 16: 23
        And I’ll add. A person who has no idea about the history of the Civil War should not talk about it in the tone of an expert. It is necessary to manage - to drag the 1st horse to the Tsaritsyno defense. And the 5th Guards Tank Army was not there by chance?
        And for the ignoramus:
        Moreover, Mironov was a creature of the real creator of the Red Army of Trotsky. All those who were put forward and supported by Trotsky were sooner or later eaten by the first-movers.

        Mironov was arrested in 1919 and liquidated in 1921 on the orders of Trotsky. No one would then have thought of putting an army commander against the wall without the sanction of the head of the Revolutionary Military Council. Another question is why no one stood up for him. But the situation was critical, the growing riots in the country. In addition, Stalin and Voroshilov, apparently, tired of otmazyvayut cavalry commanders after the incident with the Book and Apanasenko. But this is for those who really know the history of the Civil War, and not for those who "read something on this topic."
  21. sumcream56
    +2
    17 January 2014 15: 00
    Yes, my grandfather is a Cossack-red commissar, and I have another relative, full of rifle butts, in whose honor the village was renamed. All of them are like Mironov, to put it mildly, but in fact are traitors to their own Cossack people. Our people received Full from the Soviet power - a complete genocide up to the burning of the villages and farms of the Terek and Kuban Cossacks by the "brotherly mountaineers", the remains of the population of which were successfully cut by the Dudayevites. Plus the famine, when the so-called black-nodded villages died out without exception. And those who came to the aid of the Cossacks (the Declaration of 1943 guaranteed the Cossacks land, internal self-government and the creation of Cossack national military formations, as well as the restoration of the saints for every person and especially the Cossack of the rights to private property and freedom of trade), those were tried in Nuremberg.
    1. +1
      17 January 2014 15: 24
      sumcream56 "Yes, my grandfather is a Cossack-red commissar, and I have another relative, beaten with rifle butts, in whose honor the village was renamed."
      So they were extremely not smart people ... And you are smart, over there ... since such thoughts climb into Bosko ...
      sumcream56 "And those who came to the aid of the Cossacks (the 1943 Declaration guaranteed the Cossacks land, internal self-government and the creation of Cossack national military formations, as well as the restoration of the saints for every person, and especially the Cossack's rights to private property and freedom of trade), those in Nuremberg were tried."
      To guarantee does not mean to fulfill hehe ... they would live in chocolate ... hehe..aga. Do not forget to benefactors flowers in Nuremberg to take ... to the grave .. hehe hehe ...
      1. 0
        17 January 2014 16: 03
        Quote: Nagaibak
        Yes, I have a grandfather, the Cossack is a red commissar, and another relative, who is clogged with butts

        And let your gallant relatives spend a lot of "White Guard trash"? I think a lot, since they even called the village in their honor ...
        1. +1
          17 January 2014 16: 36
          "Galich Kos] And a lot of" whiteguard trash "your valiant relatives in the expense of letting? I think many times in their honor even the village was called ..."
          Do you learn to read? And then I look at the book and see a fig. The quote is not mine .. hehe ...
      2. sumcream56
        -1
        17 January 2014 16: 29
        So in the Rostov Region every year, Cossacks gather a delegation for a trip to Lienz in Austria, on the graves of Cossacks of the 15th Cossack SS corps. Ataman Vodolatsky, even the deputy governor, traveled. The Cossacks were extradited by the British along with the German soldiers who served in this corps led by General Von Pannwitz, the British offered their captivity, and he voluntarily died. Executions were carried out by soldiers from the Jerusalem battalion. By the way, the Cossacks were given land in Italy, the city of Alesso, which was renamed Novo-Novocherkassk. Of my relatives, only two Geeks are my grandfather and Mikhail Markin. And the rest are respected people. For example, my cousin, Don writer Vasily Gnutov was convicted of cooperation with the German occupiers. Before the war he was the principal of the school, and since 1954 he became a paramedic. By the way, my ancestral village Markinskaya, the former Filippovskaya, at the bottom of the Tsimlyansk reservoir, ISHO One gift to the Cossacks from the Soviet regime! Cossacks were defeated in Civilian life, it was not with the white aristocrats, but with Petliura to unite. Which by the way in the Kuban worked in the newspaper. So contacts would be found. Denikin Kuban Rada shot = horseradish radish is not sweeter!
        1. +3
          17 January 2014 16: 40
          Quote: sumcream56
          For example, my cousin, Don writer Vasily Gnutov was convicted of cooperation with the German occupiers.

          What is characteristic is that they were not shot or hanged. So, planted for a short while.
          For example, Mikhail Solomakhin, one of those arrested in Linz. According to all the current patterns, they should have shot him right at the place of arrest. Former tsarist and then White Guard Cossack officer. One of the organizers of the uprisings in the Kuban in the spring of 1918, then the regiment commander in the Shkuro corps. In the 40s, the head of the officer Cossack school of the ROA.
          What do you think the Stalinist regime did to him? Cut to pieces?
          No, they gave him 10 years in prison. Under Stalin, the same amount was given for stealing a bag of bran.
          Solomakhin died his death somewhere in the Stavropol Territory, already in the 60s. He lived with his sister and received a pension from the Soviet government.
          That's how it really was. And in Linz too.
          1. sumcream56
            -1
            17 January 2014 17: 03
            Of my relatives convicted of cooperation with the Germans, EVERYONE returned from the camps. But those who went according to the harmful 56th article for anti-Soviet activity have all perished. Although they were just co-servants and were innocently convicted of the type "For espionage in favor of Guadeloupe."
            1. +4
              17 January 2014 18: 28
              Quote: sumcream56
              ALL convicted of cooperation with the Germans returned from the camps. But those who went according to the malicious 56th article for anti-Soviet activity

              You probably meant article 58?
              Article 56 did not provide for any punishment; it referred to the general part of the code.
              Those who collaborated with the Germans also followed article 58.
              There was no separate article in the code "for cooperation with the Germans" then. This is true, by the way.
              Actually, collaborating with the enemy is not good, you know.
              I am proud that in my family there were none.
              My grandfather hated power hardly less than anyone else. His communists from the owner made the collective farm slave. But he did not betray Russia, he folded his head in February 1945.
              And the father fought the Germans and the Japanese honestly, although he especially had nothing to thank Comrade Stalin for.
              Russian Warrior should always remain a Russian Warrior.
              For me, Russia needs to be protected regardless of who is in power.
              The communists and the Vlasovites considered it differently. Some betrayed Russia in 1917 (you see, they didn’t like the power), others betrayed Russia in the 40s (for the same reason). Power by power, but the Motherland must always be defended. "Fatherland and bosses are not the same thing," as one famous writer said.
              This is also true, by the way.
              1. 0
                18 January 2014 08: 21
                I completely agree with you! My grandfather from a dispossessed family scolded the Soviet regime until his death, but at the incomplete seventeen years in July 41 fled to the front and reached Berlin!
        2. +3
          17 January 2014 16: 43
          sumcream56. "Of my relatives, only two Geeks - my grandfather and Mikhail Markin"
          You have something to be proud of ... already two geeks in the family .... hmm ... That's right! This is the approach ...
          1. Kassandra
            0
            31 December 2014 20: 34
            probably everyone was "for abortion and did not like Stalin" ...
  22. +1
    17 January 2014 15: 25
    Incidentally, the 2nd Cavalry Army consisted of two-thirds of the former White Cossacks. Until spring, it had a shortage of personnel of over 60%, and was supplemented by former White Cossacks, who laid down their cannon at the end of 1919 and the beginning of 1920. They were sucked then in the 1st Cavalry, but in the 2nd Cavalry they were especially numerous, including officers. The 2nd Cavalry proved to be excellent against Wrangel (by all accounts, better than the Budennovites), but the Red Command did not trust her. Therefore, it was not limited to the elimination of Mironov, but also dismissed the 2nd cavalry. Immediately after the defeat of Wrangel, the 18-thousandth 2nd Cavalry was reduced to the 6-thousandth "2nd Cavalry Corps" under the command of Gorodovikov, and the former White Cossacks were disbanded to their homes.
    1. +1
      17 January 2014 15: 32
      Mr. minus signer, am I wrong somewhere?
      Lied in something?
      If so, indicate where and in what.
      Give other facts.
      And if I told the truth that you do not like, but these are your problems. There is a certain kind of people who are allergic to the truth.
      1. 0
        17 January 2014 16: 39
        Sour "Mister minus player, am I wrong somewhere?"
        Do not make excuses to Honduras ... do not ... throw beads ... These who are minus at the moment, then there are no arguments.
        1. 0
          17 January 2014 16: 43
          Quote: Nagaibak
          there are no arguments.

          Yes, I'm pure to make sure.
          And then suddenly they have some other information? laughing
          Hide from me ...
          In general, I am once again convinced that many have zero knowledge of history. When they are convicted of this, they immediately have a tantrum. Gap patterns, you know. Painful process.
  23. +1
    17 January 2014 17: 10
    "Oh, these fairy tales, oh, these storytellers." Then they have a Budyonny hero, Mironov a criminal. Then they have Mironov a hero, Budyonny scoundrel. Moreover, all this can be written by the same "historian". Personally, I don't care who's who, when and for what, I'm wondering what happened in the end.
  24. +1
    17 January 2014 18: 17
    I read the article, but didn’t understand what all this pathos was about (no one was “silent” about Mironov). Is it about how wonderful Commander Mironov was, or what bad commander Budenny? Interestingly, all the red commanders (southern front) were mentioned, but forgot about the red Kuban Cossack Sorokin, the commander of the Taman division, who, without exaggeration, saved the Bolshevik power by stopping the Kornilov campaign on the Kuban, in 1918 ("First Ice Campaign"). In the same 18, commander Sorokin, he shot all the Jewish commissars, for which he himself was treacherously killed.
    1. 0
      1 December 2017 20: 35
      Quote: hollger
      I read the article, but didn’t understand what all this pathos was about (no one was “silent” about Mironov). Is it about how wonderful Commander Mironov was, or what bad commander Budenny? Interestingly, all the red commanders (southern front) were mentioned, but forgot about the red Kuban Cossack Sorokin, the commander of the Taman division, who, without exaggeration, saved the Bolshevik power by stopping the Kornilov campaign on the Kuban, in 1918 ("First Ice Campaign"). In the same 18, commander Sorokin, he shot all the Jewish commissars, for which he himself was treacherously killed.

      It was necessary to save Russia, and not power.
  25. Drosselmeyer
    +1
    17 January 2014 18: 59
    Strange, I open TSB and see: Mironov Philip Kuzmich [14 (26) .10.1872 - 2.4.1921], Soviet military leader, September 2 - December 6, 1920 successfully commanded the 2nd Cavalry Army in battles against the troops of General P.N. Wrangel . He was awarded 2 Orders of the Red Banner and Honorary Revolutionary Weapons. And then a brief description of the biography.
    What is the secret?
  26. 0
    17 January 2014 21: 52
    Who wants to learn more about the heroic and tragic fate of Philip Kuzmich Mironov, find the book "Red Days" in the internet.

    The audio version can be downloaded from the tracker.
    http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4546173
  27. bubble82009
    0
    18 January 2014 04: 26
    in any army in the world, even high-ranking commanders are shot for rebellion. and he has 2 such riots.
  28. sumcream56
    +1
    20 January 2014 15: 36
    You know, in the Criminal Code there is a rule: "A person should have believed about the consequences of his actions." An illiterate person is forgivable. But Mironov and my grandfather were educated. In defense of my grandfather, I will say the truth that I helped all my relatives, the "White Guard trash" as I could. And the Cossacks cannot be considered traitors, as they never considered themselves Russian. Moreover, walking to the side is their historical tradition. Let me remind you that the uprising of Stepan Razin was raised during the Russian-Polish war. Bulavin's uprising - during the Russian-Swedish. Moreover, the remnants of the rebels left, led by Ignat Nekrasov, to Turkey. They returned only in the 60s of the 20th century. Emelyan Pugachev was prepared by Polish intelligence, financed by the French king (Pugachev's coins were better in minting quality than Russian coins of that time; Pugachev had French advisers at his headquarters). At the request of the French, the Turkish army broke through to reunite with him. In 1918 Krasnov entered into an alliance with the German Kaisers. Therefore, the active participation of the Cossacks on Hitler's side - more than 50 thousand, including the 15th SS Cossack corps - is a logical continuation of the struggle for national independence, a continuation of the traditions of the struggle of some of the ancestors, in particular the Terek Cossacks - Novgorod volunteers-ushkiniks against Moscow.
    1. Kassandra
      0
      31 December 2014 20: 30
      Razin's uprising coincided with the split of the dog-Nikon, Bulavin - with Peter's "reforms" (one of them was the introduction of the right of the first night by the landowners), Pugachevshchina - all the same ...
      why the rebellion of William Wallace about which in the movie "Harbro Heart" does not lead you to attempts to search for "French coins"? bully
  29. 0
    9 October 2016 09: 47
    A good book was dedicated to FK Mironov: Anatoly Znamensky "Red Days".
  30. 0
    1 December 2017 20: 32
    It was not worth Mironov to serve Trotsky and Lenin. They needed him to win.