Cheerful mood: we go to the bottom. On the prospects of the great Arab-Jewish-Persian war

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Cheerful mood: we go to the bottom. On the prospects of the great Arab-Jewish-Persian war"The mood is vigorous, we go to the bottom" - it was at one time the Soviet submariners such a joke. With double overtones. This phrase is quite possible to describe the "big deal" between the countries of the "six" and Iran. At least, two key regional geopolitical opponents of Iran believe this: Saudi Arabia and Israel. This position is held by the United States Congress.

And the latter circumstance can greatly complicate the current US administration's interaction with Tehran. There are several reasons for this. First, Congress does not believe Iran. Secondly, which is much more significant, he does not believe President Obama. And this concerns far not only Republicans, but also many Democrats. And finally, all those lobbying organizations that act in favor of Saudi Arabia and Israel, and all those congressmen who are associated with these organizations, are strongly opposed to the “big deal”. And the old Iranian elite, which is abundant in America and which does not have the slightest sympathy for the ruling regime in Tehran, adds its note to the concert.

American realists against Obama's populist

Presidents are different. AT stories The United States had presidents whose congress went high. There were those to whom the congressmen did not pay much attention. Strong and weak. Charismatic and not very. Conservative and liberal. But few of them decided on such unpopular experiments as Obama. Normalization of relations with Iran on Iranian conditions, and this is exactly what we are talking about, no matter what the diplomats say, with an extremely low rating and a clear inability to cope with all the tasks that he has assumed, gives Obama opponents a chance to drown his presidency . There is no doubt that they will not miss this chance.

Obama lost the war on international terrorism. It is not known why he got involved in the Libyan campaign, unleashing Islamist hands in North Africa. He handed over the allies of America in the Middle East in exchange for an alliance with representatives of political Islam, who are just as little sympathetic to the Americans and their president as frank terrorists. He left Iraq and leaves Afghanistan, leaving behind a civil war and weak but not loyal to Washington governments. Literally blew up the States with medical reform. Put the state on the verge of default because of the budget crisis. He almost repeated the Libyan scenario in Syria, retreating under pressure from Russia and China, which equally lowered his rating. And he began negotiations with Iran.

As a result, all those who are watching the president believe that he is an assertive populist who has no idea about the real goal of his policy and thinks only about achieving a short-term advertising effect. The initiatives he implements are not calculated, not justified, and either do not produce a result, or the result is the opposite of the stated goals. Moreover, the list of examples that confirm this is more than great.

Accordingly, Congress will do everything possible to block the activity of Barack Obama in the Iranian direction, regardless of what he promises to the allies of the United States and how he will justify the results achieved by his diplomats. Not the reputation of the current president to take a deal with Iran on faith. Moreover, the professional intelligence and military elite treat it with restraint. And specialists in the Middle East have their doubts.

Of course, politically correct generals, all of whose virtues are that they do not fall into sex scandals and do not quarrel with the State Department, are on the side of the president. As well as left-wing professors who set the tone in a variety of American universities. There are plenty of them in America, and they are the backbone of Obama's intellectual team. But there are no less realists and professionals in the USA. And they very well understand that Iran as a result of the implementation of the agreements reached loses nothing, but it acquires a lot.

Interests of the Islamic Republic

This, it should be noted, is confirmed by the Iranians themselves. One may say that the statement by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Iran Mohammad Javad Zarif, made in mid-December a day before the talks in Vienna, that Tehran can resume uranium enrichment to 20% in less than 24 hours - reassure the Iranian conservative-patriotic camp, which criticizes the Geneva agreements. Words are spoken. It is also said that the agreements with the "six" mean recognition by the world community of the Iranian nuclear program. That is fundamentally contrary to the claims of US officials.

Whoever is telling the truth in this case is completely irrelevant. It is only important that the parties consider agreements concluded in Geneva from diametrically opposed parties. And they are doing everything to confirm their words with deeds. What draws the G-6 and Iran into a long, bitter skirmish about what was meant in Geneva, as interpreted in Tehran, violates or does not violate Iran’s spirit and letter of agreements, torpedoes agreements as such or leaves room for further negotiations … And so on and so forth…

Moreover, it is clear in advance that the Iranians as negotiators are much more adept than the Americans and especially the Europeans. Will use any chance. Stretch time to the maximum. And, as it was already ten years ago, when the current President Rouhani headed Tehran’s team in negotiations with the same “six” on the same nuclear program, ultimately, will take it to a new level. What is this level? Will Iran create a nuclear bomb or will it be possible to create it in the shortest possible time? In essence, this is the same thing.

Note that Iran cannot retreat and will not retreat. The imperial military-political lobby is too strong in the country and is set up for a tough conflict with the West, Saudi Arabia and Israel. The negotiations in Geneva and the agreements concluded there by representatives of this lobby are perceived as treason. Fortunately, unlike 2003, they are no longer afraid of America, rightly evaluating the results of the military campaigns of Washington and its allies in Iraq and Afghanistan as a failure.

The only thing Rouhani can do to build bridges with an influential political group interested in escalating the conflict is to demonstrate that in reality there are no concessions. And this makes it necessary to listen to those politicians in Jerusalem, Riyadh and Washington, who assess Iran as a player who tactically outplayed their negotiating partners and retained everything that is strategically important to it.

Be that as it may, Israel is expanding the geography of its partners, trying to establish a dialogue with China and Russia. At the same time preparing for war with Iran and its allies, if this does not help relieve tension in relations with Tehran. The words of Russian President Vladimir Putin about the danger of a crisis in relations between Iran and Israel and the need to normalize them, in which Russia is interested, sound much more convincing to Israel than assurances from the American President. Because Putin in Jerusalem believe. And Obama, after the events of the “Arab Spring”, is somehow not very.

On the verge of a great Middle Eastern war?

However, if it is theoretically possible to separate Israel and Iran in different corners of the ring, it only follows that the Islamic Republic did not provoke Israel in all directions, with Saudi Arabia the situation is much worse. It is she who is most interested in disrupting the Geneva deal and in the war with Iran. Although, obviously, will try to stay away from direct military action.

Everything that has recently been known about the “embassy war”, in which Iran’s diplomatic missions are attacked (it was started by an explosion at the Iranian embassy in Beirut), about the exchange of information between Saudi and Israeli secret services and those responsible -Riad of the mercenary "army of Mohammed" from 250 of thousands of fighters, indicates that Saudi Arabia is more than serious about Iran. It is also quite serious to take the statement that the appearance of an A-bomb in Iran means the need to master the same weapons for KSA. The kingdom at any moment will receive an atomic bomb from friendly Pakistan. Together with carriers and staff. And if necessary, with the equipment necessary for its reproduction. Although in fact the whole complex can remain on Pakistani territory. The nuclear arms race in the region and the world as a whole is ensured. The Geneva nuclear deal with Tehran in this case will lead not to disarmament, but to exactly the opposite result, burying the non-proliferation regime as such.

The author is not inclined to succumb to the magic of numbers, but it is curious: will the 2014 year be any different from its predecessors? World War I began in 1914. In 1814, the victory over Napoleonic France was won. In 1714, the war for the Spanish Succession ended, and Russia defeated Sweden. Well, and so on. Each time in the end, the world seriously changed.

If we take for granted the statements of Western analysts made after Geneva that Iran has 36 weeks left before the atomic bomb, then by August of this very, 14 year, the Islamic Republic has a chance to complete it. Symbolic at the time, my friend, as Vladimir Ilyich Lenin could have said about this with his characteristic grading. And they understand this in at least two countries: Israel and Saudi Arabia.

Which means: either Putin will succeed, and Iran will stop provoking Israel. Without which, the Geneva agreement penny is not worth it and will not be worth for anyone except Barack Obama. Or there will be a war. Israelis simply have nowhere to go, they want to live. Yes, and the Saudis need it. In general, as it was said: the mood is vigorous. We go to the bottom.
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  1. AVV
    +7
    10 January 2014 12: 46
    Iran has its own interests and Since America is giving up on all fronts, Iran will not miss its point, especially since the relations between the Saudis and America have worsened! And Russia should play this Iran-American gambit, especially since we have our own interests in this region !! !
    1. +12
      10 January 2014 15: 46
      Quote: AVV
      ! And Russia should play this Iran-American gambit, especially since we have our own interests in this region !!!


      And apparently we are playing, and we are doing it very, very subtly and quietly
      1. +9
        10 January 2014 17: 07
        Presidents are different. Obama lost war ... it is not known why got involved ... passed America's Allies in the Middle East ...gone from Iraq and leaves from Afghanistan ...blew up States medical reform ... put the state is on the brink of default ...repeated Libyan script ...started negotiations with Iran ...all those who oversee the president...

        ...they forgot how offended A. Rosenbaum was when they began to praise his guitar:
        "What a guitar, what a guitar ... YES! A gorgeous instrument! HOW ABOUT SOUND EXTRACTION?"
        1. +3
          10 January 2014 18: 37
          Quote: .. Eugene Satanovsky ..
          Putin is believed in Jerusalem.


          I liked his statement on Syria that the West cannot be cured, it cannot be cured, there is nothing to think of the bone
          1. 225chay
            -1
            11 January 2014 08: 02
            Quote: Vadivak
            Quote: .. Eugene Satanovsky ..
            Putin is believed in Jerusalem.
            I liked his statement on Syria that the West cannot be cured, it cannot be cured, there is nothing to think of the bone


            SOTANOVSKY is a deeply dishonorable man, and even pathologically hating Russia and its people ...
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    2. +7
      10 January 2014 17: 47
      Quote: AVV
      and since America is surrendering on all fronts

      America does not give up on all fronts ... it is being drawn into its "shell" after providing itself with its oil and gas (even for a brief period) and if the Persian Gulf blazes along with the monarchies ... then America will guess again. Europe without energy reserves .. in general, it will be hard for it to cost more than anything and it is not clear how it will affect China. IMHA.
      Again they want to go on someone else's shoulders.
      1. +1
        11 January 2014 00: 42
        there is such a word-exchange. In closed conditions, energy prices will rush uphill faster than the F-35. Or will Saudis reduce production by a multiple at a loss to themselves? Who will buy at prices higher than world prices?
        1. SSR
          +1
          11 January 2014 07: 45
          And if the Saudis are busy with the war with Iran and Iraq? Few exchanges will help them
    3. +1
      10 January 2014 18: 04
      And in the photo not "Japanese" for an hour? Painfully similar!
      1. +1
        10 January 2014 18: 18
        Quote: kris
        And in the photo not "Japanese" for an hour?

        You have yes. He himself is Ivankov Vyacheslav Kirillovich.

        www.mzk1.ru/2011/12/vyacheslav-ivankov-foto-cikl/

        What is he doing here?
        1. +2
          10 January 2014 18: 41
          Quote: Ptah
          What is he doing here?

          Yes, Chris drew attention to the outward resemblance to Satanovsky. After all, the truth is similar. laughing
          1. +3
            10 January 2014 18: 48
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            After all, the truth is similar.

            And not only .... The result of "plastic" at "Yaponchik"
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            Look Igor. The prototype in the foreground ...
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          2. +4
            10 January 2014 21: 29
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: Ptah
            What is he doing here?

            Yes, Chris drew attention to the outward resemblance to Satanovsky. After all, the truth is similar. laughing

            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: Ptah
            What is he doing here?
            Yes, Chris drew attention to the outward resemblance to Satanovsky. After all, the truth is similar.

            Looks like - both with glasses! bully
      2. 0
        11 January 2014 00: 44
        About the dead either ... or nothing
        1. +2
          11 January 2014 01: 30
          Yes, we're kind of about Satanovsky here ... what
          Or he, too, has already ... spilled over? belay
    4. +7
      10 January 2014 18: 28
      Satanovsky is certainly an intelligent Jew, this cannot be taken away from him. But he is preoccupied with, so to speak, a specific flaw - that’s all and only because through the prism of Israeli interests, although he lives, works and receives pennies in Russia.
      Iran has its own interests? It is interesting, but which country does not have these interests?
      Even some kind of creepy Senegal and that one, "its" interests from the filing of greenpeaks demonstrated ...
      And here IRAN, for centuries the country tried to dominate in the BV-clashing with Turkey. At times and with Russia.
      Only Iran made conclusions from clashes with Russia, but the rest seems not very ..
      Is America blown away? Israel is looking for who will sponsor it now, is it not from this the cries of Swatanovsky?
      1. 0
        10 January 2014 23: 31
        Quote: vladkavkaz
        Is America blown away? Israel is looking for who will sponsor it now, is it not from this the cries of Swatanovsky?

        Well, of course dear, from this very, because if the states will help Israel in the war with Iran, then only, "can be a weapon" and then "???".
  2. avt
    +9
    10 January 2014 15: 46
    laughing “Obama lost the war on international terrorism. It is not known why he got involved in the Libyan campaign, having untied the hands of the Islamists in North Africa. "----- Well, maybe he can remind the entom uncle how he, together with Mirkin, foaming at the mouth, proved Kurginyan to Kurginyan what a terrible, terrible, bloody tyrant of Gaddafi and how gloriously and democratically will the world live after its overthrow and all these democratic bombings in support of the glorious democrats who rebelled against the tyrant? laughing Well, the whole article in the bottom line boils down to one, since Carthage - Libya is destroyed, Tehran must be destroyed. But Barak Huseynovich isn’t keeping pace with this thought, even now she’s driving her away from her - a stupid niger. Clever of course the Pharisee however.
    1. SSR
      +1
      11 January 2014 00: 05
      The United States (capital) did everything right on a global scale, caught up with the situation - ah wai terrorism ai wai axis of evil ... Lead the whole flock of rams behind you and now (creating conditions for their inner survival) they quietly merge and quietly drain their financial bubble to the whole world ... All the rams will soon collide by inertia, because not every "state" or "politician" can see the geopolitical mosaic, but only think of themselves as such while being puppets in the hands of others.
      Ps.
      Unfortunately, Babamka lost or the elite of Western capital won, we will know when the game will be played.
    2. 0
      11 January 2014 03: 00
      and if he didn’t want to win? He made a beehive, or blew into the light and is going to look at the rest from afar? After all, sometimes the pace of the game is changed by frequent distributions or shuffling of decks.
  3. alex-kon
    +10
    10 January 2014 15: 51
    Yes, to pit the Saudis with the Jews. Then Russia would become even easier to play.
    1. +7
      10 January 2014 17: 53
      Quote: alex-kon
      Yes, to pit the Saudis with the Jews.

      Great option! But the Jews are not so stupid to .......deleted by moderator Apollo for those who pay their cleaning up the territories of the neighbors in the communal flat, where they have come in large numbers.

      Satanovsky is a cunning beast. But it just became a singing along with others. Then must pack Chumadan ...

      With the onset of the “Arab spring”, the Americans moved to a geopolitical restructuring of the region, which naturally raised the question of the fate of Israel. This question has not been off the agenda ever since. And whatever form this question may take, it is presented in only one vein: Israel is always presented as a sacrifice. So, in the spring of 2011, at the height of the war against Libya, when the Palestinian Authority raised the question of its membership in the UN, the Western media began to shout in unison about the betrayal of Washington, who "surrenders" the Jewish state to the Islamists. Today, when the absurdity of such a statement is obvious to almost everyone, the emphasis is on the deadly threat to Israel from Iran, which, it says, is growing as the situation in Syria worsens.

      At the same time, the most important thing is either overshadowed or simply ignored: Israel’s deep interest in destabilizing the situation in the Arab-Muslim countries surrounding it and in fomenting the war in Syria.

      Meanwhile, Rabbi Avraam Shmulevich, one of the creators of the influential Israeli elite doctrine, openly spoke about the reasons for this interest in his interviews back in 2011. Interestingly, he praised the "Arab spring" as a boon to Israel. "Muslim world- wrote Abraham Shmulevich, - plunged into a state of chaos, and this will be a positive factor for the Jews. Chaos is the best time to take control of the situation and put the Jewish civilization system into action. Now there is a struggle over who will be the spiritual leader of mankind - Rome (West) or Israel ... Now we must take complete control in our hands ... We will not just buy the Arab elite, but we will feed it and educate ourselves. .. A person who receives freedom must simultaneously receive instructions on how to use this freedom. And we, the Jews, will write this instruction to humanity ... The heyday of Jewry comes in the fire of the Arab revolutions ”
      1


      From here -
      www.fondsk.ru/news/2013/11/01/v-teni-amerikanskoj-geopolitiki-ili-esche-raz-o-ve


      likom-izraile-i-23743.html


      Part two -
      www.fondsk.ru/news/2013/11/02/v-teni-amerikanskoj-geopolitiki-ili-esche-raz-o-ve


      likom-izraile-ii-23763.html
  4. Kirill
    +10
    10 January 2014 15: 55
    The Israelis do not want to just live, but live well, exploring new territories, while not being particularly shy about the means (and allies) to achieve them.
    1. +1
      10 January 2014 17: 19
      The mistake of the Jews - they do not learn the lessons of history, the war just died out, they suffered from Hitler themselves, and they did the same to the Arabs, what is the result? Now you want to live (as in the joke: Do you want to live?
      "And with whom?"
      "Ugh, damn it, and it's disgusting to eat"
      1. +3
        10 January 2014 18: 03
        Quote: dark_65
        The mistake of the Jews - they do not learn the lessons of history, only the war died out, they themselves suffered from Hitler, and they did the same to the Arabs

        Quote: E. Satanovsky
        “A cheerful mood, let's go to the bottom” - this was at one time the Soviet submariners such a joke. With double overtones.

        And divers have such a "joke".
        A diver works at a depth and a command message comes to his headphone.
        "Get on board urgently - we are drowning!"

        Satanovsky has the same order: "Depart for the" historical "- the Persians are going to use their" Baby "on the next Yom Purim, we are participating in trials"

        From the classics - "From the dead Amana donkey ears. Get from Pushkin Netanyahu ... "(c)
  5. mr_Doom
    +1
    10 January 2014 16: 14
    It’s bad to live when your enemy threatens to destroy you, but it’s impossible to live well at all :(
  6. Don
    +5
    10 January 2014 16: 29
    The kingdom will receive the atomic bomb from friendly Pakistan at any time.

    Pakistan has very good relations with Iran, both economic and political. It is unlikely that they will be sharing nuclear weapons or selling it to KSA.
    1. avt
      -1
      10 January 2014 16: 40
      Quote: Don
      It is unlikely that they will be sharing nuclear weapons or selling it to KSA.

      They, with the permission of the USA, bungled their bomb with the money of the Saudis, so the Saudis have it.
  7. +8
    10 January 2014 16: 34
    Syshia is renting out the region - this is clear. and this, it seems to me, has nothing to do with the decline of the states themselves. The dependence is seen in the plane of reorientation in the Asia-Pacific region. Not for nothing that Obama said.
    Even the "omnipotent" do not want to fight on several fronts. True, they are doing very awkwardly, throwing all their allies in the Middle East. Although this is another lesson for those who still cherish the hopes of being in the role of a partner in the world.
    The only thing that worries is the likelihood of war. It has already been talked about for more than one year and this is not just echoes. God grant to all of us not to catch her ... well, or at least so that we ourselves and our allies would not be drawn into it. let the Saudis tear their throats. Although the Russian Federation has never succeeded in isolating itself.
    1. +4
      10 January 2014 21: 53
      Quote: silver_roman
      Syshia is renting out the region - this is clear. and this, it seems to me, has nothing to do with the decline of the states themselves. The dependence is seen in the plane of reorientation in the Asia-Pacific region. Not for nothing that Obama said.

      Here the Shionugs became nervous and screeched: like so, the president of the United States cherished out of their control!
      And what is Satanovsky so smart about? Just an obedient mouthpiece for their employers.
      And if you give an example of a really smart and independent-minded Jew, it is better not to find Wasserman (imho).
      In any case, his articles are suggestive, not just this anal_itika.
  8. +8
    10 January 2014 16: 39
    I take many articles and comments by E. Satanovsky positively, although I don’t like some of them, especially in terms of his "underground activities" during the Soviet Union - whoever, and the Jews in the Union, were not so oppressed as they describe ... I personally have not met Jewish miners en masse, but more and more from a certain class among the intelligentsia.
    But here is what he wrote back in 2004.

    Perhaps the main thing that will help Russia to find mechanisms for an effective fight against Islamic terror is an awareness of its very nature. Islamists do not expect concessions from the Russian Federation, as well as from all other states against which they are fighting. They just want to destroy the country and its inhabitants: atheists and believers, Muslims and non-Muslims. Islamists do not consider all of them people and are ready to sacrifice their lives and the lives of loved ones in the name of victory in a new jihad that is immeasurably superior to the senseless cruelty of jihad of the time of the Prophet. Compromises are pointless against such an adversary, and the only effective means is to destroy the terrorists before they can strike. Creating a mechanism to do this will mean victory.
    1. series
      +4
      10 January 2014 17: 28
      Quote: VadimSt
      . Personally, I have not met Jews miners in large numbers, but more and more from among a certain class among the intelligentsia.

      I am a Slav, a Siberian, I live in the Urals, and I met cool machine-tool workers, designers, I was treated by wonderful Jewish doctors ...
      impressions of communication both at work and in an informal setting are adequately positive.
      Therefore, I am quite favorably considering the entry of Israel into the Customs Union.
      PS If Russia is in alliance with Israel, then the ENTIRE Middle East will dance a potpourri from Komarinsky and 7 \ 40 ... and not run after each other with belts innocence shahid wassat
      1. +2
        10 January 2014 18: 07
        Quote: S-200

        I am a Slav, a Siberian, I live in the Urals, and I met cool machinists, designers, I was treated by wonderful Jewish doctors ...:

        Machinists in Israel! We have enough doctors, designers and lawyers, but for the intelligent adjuster of the control system, any director will kiss his ass. Young people are lazy, everyone turns into engineers, and who will work on machines request
        1. +5
          10 January 2014 18: 21
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          any director in the ass kiss.

          Recruiting for sweets? wassat
          1. +3
            10 January 2014 19: 27
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            any director in the ass kiss.

            Recruiting for sweets? wassat

            Not. I'm talking about sore. Not enough turners.
        2. +2
          11 January 2014 01: 03
          Oh, too! Russia is still not the only Ukrainians alive! Some of the Jewish machinists sharpen for us!
        3. 0
          12 January 2014 21: 31
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          We have enough doctors, designers and lawyers


          lawyers - maybe, but doctors and engineers - are being dragged out of Russia within the framework of special programs, this is not particularly advertised simply. Israel is the organizer and sponsor of the "brain drain", although what to expect, he is still a "friend" ...
      2. +3
        10 January 2014 18: 23
        Quote: S-200
        favorably considering entry of Israel into Customs. Union

        We have already grabbed from such friends, even with the Pale of Settlement. stop
        1. +1
          10 January 2014 19: 25
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Quote: S-200
          favorably considering entry of Israel into Customs. Union

          We have already grabbed from such friends, even with the Pale of Settlement. stop

          Do you think that we didn’t hap from the Pale of Settlement?
        2. +3
          10 January 2014 19: 28
          It may be insulting to someone, but a historical fact: a large number of Jews always led to the prosperity of the country. And vice versa, their exile gave a positive effect only for a short time, then stagnation always went on. I myself am not a Jew, but there is something to respect them for.
          1. +4
            10 January 2014 21: 43
            Quote: Arhj
            It may be insulting to someone, but a historical fact: a large number of Jews always led to the prosperity of the country. And vice versa, their expulsion gave a positive effect only for a short time, then stagnation always went on.

            And will there be examples? Not even evidence - you cannot find them.
            And examples stagnationdirectly related to the expulsion of the Jews. And the latter was in bulk.

            Quote from Archibald Ramsey's book "The Nameless War"
            Captain AHM Ramsey. "The Nameless War". First published 1952, London.
            Foreword:
            Edward I expelled the Jews from England for many crimes and violations against the welfare of his kingdom and his people, which were reflected in the Code of Jewish Laws adopted by Parliament in 1290.

            The king of France soon did the same, as did the other rulers of Christian Europe. The situation of the Jews became so catastrophic that they sent an urgent Appeal for Help and Advice to Sanhedrin, who was then in Constantinople. That appeal was signed by the Rabbi of Arles from the French region of Provence, Chemor on January 13, 1489. The answer came in November of the same year, it was signed by the "prince of the Jews." In it, the Jews of Europe were advised to use the Trojan horse tactics: to make their sons Christian priests, lawyers, doctors, pharmacists, etc. and make every effort to destroy the Christian structure from within.

            The first serious echoes of this council took place in Spain during the reign of Ferdinand and Isabella. By that time, many Jews were recorded as Christians, but secretly they remained faithful to their religion and made every effort to destroy the Christian church in Spain. The situation there has become so serious that the Inquisition was established to cleanse the country of those conspirators. As a result, the Jews again had to leave another country whose hospitality they had abused.

            Jews were forced to leave for other countries where there was no persecution against them at that time, many of them settled in Holland and Switzerland. Since then, those two countries have become centers of Jewish intrigue. But despite the fact that the Jews had a place where they could live, they needed a strong nation with significant navigational potential, which they could use.

            Great Britain, shortly before that united under James I, was a growing maritime power, whose influence was already felt in all corners of the world. But, despite the power and potential of England, in its society there were serious religious contradictions between Catholics and Protestants, the Jews decided to use them for their own purposes. They organized a campaign to inflate these contradictions and they managed to achieve significant success in this field. Even in the early stages of that campaign, they recruited Cromwell as their mercenary, who managed to push the king off the stage, then execute him, after which he allowed the Jews to return to England.


            www.sweetliberty.org/issues/wars/nameless/intro.shtml
            1. -2
              11 January 2014 00: 08
              So you gave examples. Having got rid of the Jews, the countries lost their professional staff, the confiscated funds were taken from the economy and just walked away, and there is no growth without working capital. At least these countries have not acquired anything. And on the contrary, the countries that sheltered them received what the first ones pulled. Not to mention the fact that the skipped funds through circulation to the Jews and returned, but made up someone else's foreign economic balance. And the "crimes of the Jews" in this case are a pretext for robbery based on religious prejudices.
              1. +1
                11 January 2014 01: 19
                Quote: Arhj
                Already at least these countries have not acquired anything. And on the contrary, the states that sheltered them received what the first shocked.

                I would like to detail, but it is a lot and a long time .... Some facts ABOUT PURCHASE
                Follow the train of thought, later, if you wish, you can dig yourself.
                The second Monday of October in the USA is a day off - Columbus Day. In honor of what is he? That's right, in honor of the discovery by the Jews of America. It is no secret that Columbus was a Genoese Jewish Marran.
                In Spain, in 1492, Ferdinand and Isabella prepared an Edict on the Expulsion of the Jews, according to which it was ordered that the last Jew leave Spain on August 2. "The connection between the time of Columbus's voyage and the expulsion of Jews from Spain is obvious. Historians note that although Columbus did not intending to set sail earlier than August 3, he insisted that the entire crew be on board the day before sailing, August 2, indicating that this was a flight and not an "expedition."
                Columbus began an official report on his first voyage to America by Ferdinad and Isabella in strange words: "thus, after the expulsion of all Jews from your kingdom in the month of January, Your Highness ordered me .... I headed to the above parts of India(?)".
                But the sea is not a track and he had to go to India in the opposite direction. And this is the modern Boeing 747 route from Barcelona to Havana. All three times Columbus swam in a straight line by the shortest route!
                Bottom line: Spain RECEIVED (In revenge) the naval war with England, where those who did not "get a ticket" to America returned. Indians GOT a genocide that makes the "holocaust" seem like a "minor accident".
                Those countries where Jews settled GOT permanent revolutions.
              2. 0
                11 January 2014 01: 20
                Fast forward to the 20th century.

                In Hungary, Jew Bela Kun (real name Aaron Kogan) organized a bloody coup, supporting his power with an unheard-of tyranny similar to that carried out in Russia. In Germany, the Jews of Liebknecht, Garth, Scheidemann, Rosa Luxemburg (Emma Lazarus) and others also seized power in several cities and lands. All of Europe shuddered in such convulsions, but fortunately all those countries managed to defeat the enemy. Except Russia.
                In your words, from an excess of Jews GOT ALL!!!
                At the end of 1918, a revolution broke out in Germany, which was made behind the backs of its army, which fought on the fronts of World War II. A quote about this is the following - "In November, sailors came to us in trucks and called on us for an uprising, which was fueled by the Jews, telling everyone that this was a struggle for" the freedom and dignity of our nation. "None of them were at the front."
                But that's not all...
                Upon his return to the United States, Untermeyer gave a radio speech, the text of which was printed in the New York Times on 7 on August 1933. Untermeyer began his speech with such pompous words - "We are entering a holy war in the name of humanity ..." and continued to set out a long program for this, and in his speech he introduced the Jews as aristocrats of the world.
                "Each of you, Jew or not, who has not yet signed up for this holy war, should do it right here. And the Jews who do not make efforts in this war, he called" traitors to their race. "
                In January 1934, Zhabotinsky, the Zionist leader, wrote in the newspaper Nasha Rech - "The fight against Germany has been waged for several months by every Jewish community, conference, trade union, every Jew in the world ... We will unleash a spiritual and material war of the whole world against Germany."
                And who, in fact, unleashed a war from which GOT ALL...
                But most of all the descendants of those Jews in Ameria who once ticked with Kolomn and later joined them. In terms of "foreign trade balance"...

                Threat. Maybe you ... well ... to them.
                I mean, in Israel. Has there always been a shortage of those who have to protect Jewish banks? So Satanovsky is "thickly hinting" at this. hi
                1. +2
                  11 January 2014 11: 05
                  You are mistaken. I don’t belong to Jewish lovers and I’m not going to protect them. They do not need it. There are villains among any nation and attributing all troubles to Jews is at least not fair. But respect is deserved by any nation, and Jews are no exception. As for the American bankers of Jewish origin, then, I'm sorry, I, like you, apparently, do not like them very much.
                  I will not argue further about the influence of Jews on the economy. It’s long and unconstructive, since each of us will remain with our own opinion, and it will take a long time to print on the tablet. Anyway thanks for the opinion wink
            2. 0
              11 January 2014 01: 35
              violet. With reference to Russia. 1917 - October, the coming of Jews to power. Continue?
              1. 0
                11 January 2014 02: 12
                Quote: ty60
                .Continue?

                As you want ... Until you intrigued ...No.
                Continue?

                Yes, it seems we didn’t start anything .... Ie, you didn’t say anything intelligible ... Or did I not understand the "mental message"?
                So, he warmed up a bit with "Arhj", but apparently the "theme of the Jews" is not interesting to him without the Jews themselves, and he fell asleep, sweetly picking up and fiddling with a curly hair hanging over his temple.
                Let him dream of a boooo-big loan capital ... fellow laughing
                We envy .... crying
          2. 0
            10 January 2014 23: 41
            If I'm not mistaken, in Japan there are no Jews at all and they live like that.
            1. +1
              11 January 2014 00: 32
              Quote: Egor69
              no Jews in Japan at all

              Ha ..... Poor you know the Jews ....
              Yes according to british scientists Jewish ethnographers, the first kibbutzim were discovered on the moon, and scrolls with a Torah from the collection Madame Petukhova Schneerson, still lie on Mars and now "Curiosity" has been poisoned behind them .... What do you think is not true? But can you believe it?
              Israeli ethnographer Joseph (Yoy-sef) Eidelberg argues that the Japanese and Israelis are tied by blood ties, have common roots and origins.

              Tracing the close connection of history, religion, traditions, language and script of the Japanese with the ancient culture of the Jews, the scientist concludes: the inhabitants of the Land of the Rising Sun are the descendants of the lost "ten tribes of Israel"\ all ten quietly flew half the world ... \. According to biblical tradition, these tribes disappeared in 722 year BC. e., when the Assyrians conquered Samaria. Having escaped from captivity, the Jews went east and settled “somewhere beyond China”\ if you continue the line further to the east, then having rounded the globe you can find yourself again in the Haifa region. And this will also be "For China" ... \. For many decades, Israeli missionaries have been searching for lost relatives in the islands of Polynesia, in the deep regions of India, Pakistan, South and Central Asia, and the Far East, in order to return them to the promised land.
              Following the traditions, Eidelberg found traces of lost tribes in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Mongolia and even China. Tracing the migration of Jewish ancestors further east, the scientist chose Japan. Starting with the study of the Japanese language, Eidelberg came to an unexpected discovery, establishing a striking similarity in the roots, sound and meaning of more than 3000 Hebrew and Japanese words./ where did the Japanese dialect come from and when Hebrew appeared, he was not interested ... /
              Proximity was also found between Hebrew letters and Japanese letters. Eidelberg made amazing discoveries. According to him, in ancient history Jews and Japanese have much in common, and their kings had similar names, appearance and even died on the battlefield under the same circumstances./ Jews are very proud of kosher hara-kiri ... / Entering confidence in Japanese clergy, the ethnographer managed to penetrate the holy of holies - Shinto Temple / absolutely believe in it ... /. It turned out that the most revered place in the temple is "hondana" - the altar of the book. The Japanese themselves do not know where and when this name appeared. This secret how claims Eidelberg, he managed to uncover: in the “chondan” there were once stored scrolls of the sacred Torah, taken out of Palestine - Book Books.

              Japanese annals do not give a clear answer to the question, where did the Japanese come from on the islands? However, they say that their ancestors 667 AD went on a long campaign for the liberation of the "land of the Kans" bequeathed to them by God, and along the way they had to fight with the Ebis tribes. The scientist is convinced that we are talking about the land of Canaanites, known to the Japanese of that time, as Palestine was once called, and they fought with the Jebusites - the people mentioned in the Torah. True, the Jebusites lived long before our era. / maybe even on another planet ... /

              Unfortunately, the "scientist" has not yet managed to convince the Japanese that he is right. Do you know why?
              Yes, because the Yapans almost completely lack the sense of humor, and the Jews, on the contrary, are very proud of them and developed it extraordinarily ....
              So they did not understand each other ....
          3. +1
            12 January 2014 21: 42
            The Jewish bike, offset)))

            It’s just not quite clear which country.
      3. admiral
        0
        10 January 2014 20: 42
        Chechens are good too
      4. +1
        11 January 2014 01: 00
        Do not believe Danians bringing gifts!
    2. 0
      11 January 2014 00: 58
      I met a lot of Jews in the defense industry. One dollar millionaire in the 90s
  9. +1
    10 January 2014 16: 57
    Quote: avt
    Obama lost the war on international terrorism

    Realizing that he could not win, he decided to head it - Libya, Syria, who next ????
  10. Kowalsky
    +8
    10 January 2014 16: 59
    It’s not necessary to assign such services to poor Obama as planting the USA in a puddle. With all due respect to him, even Obama alone can’t do such a good deed :) It was not lucky to become the ruler of the empire during its decline, if not sunset. That list of American failures set out in the article is a consequence of many years of politics. This, apparently, began with Bush Sr. What they fought for, as they say.
  11. avt
    +1
    10 January 2014 17: 03
    Quote: RuslanNN
    Quote: avt
    Obama lost the war on international terrorism

    It’s actually Satonovsky’s,
    Quote: RuslanNN
    Realizing that he could not win, he decided to head it

    request Is it a big secret that the notorious "Al Qaeda" was created by the Americans and it "terrorizes" so successfully that, again, the Americans still have advantages?
  12. garlik
    +10
    10 January 2014 17: 09
    And why Pakistan has a bomb, it’s not scary, but Iran will get scared? Is this Pakistan adequate to Iran?
  13. +3
    10 January 2014 17: 18
    Mr. Satanovsky Evgeny Yanovich (third president of the Russian Jewish Congress) - is right. Russia has no particular desire for a meat grinder with elements of a limited nuclear war to begin on our outskirts (Iran is our neighbor). We do not want Israel to be ruined and that 1/3 of its population, which still speaks Russian, rushed back to Russia. Russia's task is to maintain the status quo. But this is unreal. You can’t keep the child in the stroller all the time. soon there will not be enough space for him. Means war. But it is better under our control and with the least losses for Russia. drinks
    1. garlik
      +2
      10 January 2014 17: 23
      Jews from Israel will not go back, but will go to the USA, Germany hi
      1. +6
        10 January 2014 18: 09
        We are not going anywhere at all. In the end, there are more than 6 million of us here and something we are standing in battle, so we'll see.
        1. +2
          10 January 2014 18: 27
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          something we stand in battle

          Yes, no matter how much they cost, there are more Arabs. Your only trump cards are big brother and nuclear weapons. But Archik is right, live better there, and take away the remaining Jews from us, as Theodor Herzel bequeathedhi
          1. +2
            10 January 2014 19: 49
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            something we stand in battle

            Yes, no matter how much they cost, there are more Arabs. Your only trump cards are big brother and nuclear weapons. But Archik is right, live better there, and take away the remaining Jews from us, as Theodor Herzel bequeathedhi

            we only need a big brother for the UN. Arabs as if not all around Israel live. In 1948 / 56 / 67 / 73 and without nuclear weapons dispensed. As for the fact that all Jews should live in Israel, I do not need to convince me. If you want the Jews to leave Russia, push them. I can’t help you here; I don’t live in Russia.
            1. +1
              11 January 2014 01: 42
              Wrong level- SHOWN
              1. 0
                11 January 2014 11: 33
                Quote: ty60
                Wrong level- SHOWN

                Level up. Am I disturbing you?
          2. +4
            10 January 2014 22: 59
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Yes, no matter how much they cost, there are more Arabs. Your only trump cards are big brother and nuclear weapons. But Archik is right, live better there, and take away the remaining Jews from us, as Theodor Herzel bequeathed


            can you name an Arab country that can oppose Israel at the moment? Such countries no longer exist in principle. Anyone who could think about it, live in ruins or long ago realizing that this is a meaningless undertaking, they signed peace treaties and stepped aside .
        2. Current 72
          0
          11 January 2014 00: 44
          Aron Zawi, look at the statistics, and then write that of the 7 million-6 million Jews.
          1. +1
            11 January 2014 01: 22
            Quote: Current 72
            Aron Zawi, look at the statistics, and then write that of the 7 million-6 million Jews.

            I did not understand your promise.
      2. admiral
        +1
        10 January 2014 20: 44
        how, after the defeat of the Khazars, they left for Europe.
        1. +2
          10 January 2014 22: 33
          Quote: Admiral
          how, after the defeat of the Khazars, they left for Europe.

          What kind of nonsense are you writing? Jews appeared in Europe along with the Romans, as subjects of the Roman Empire. And in the Khazar Kaganate, they were not only a minority, they also had nothing to do with Europe. The remnants of the Jews of the Khazar Kaganate are "Mountain Jews" and "Crimean Jews".
          1. admiral
            +1
            11 January 2014 20: 39
            I hope you do not pretend to be omniscient.
            Why so categorical. All of my Jewish acquaintances are people with the highest external tolerance and are very comfortable.
            A number of "politicians" of Europe refer to them (to the Khazar Jews). For example, the ex-president of France.
            The motivation for many of their actions against Russia is dictated by gene memory.
  14. +2
    10 January 2014 17: 18
    Quote: avt
    Obama lost the war on international terrorism

    How can you lose a war to who you are? At whose expense are all these "terrorist attacks" - let's not forget.
    Obama just kills his own state against the wall; he is like Gorbachev and Yeltsin combined.
    1. avt
      0
      10 January 2014 17: 38
      Quote: gormih
      Quote: avt
      Obama lost the war on international terrorism

      How can you lose the war to those who you are?

      To Satanovsky question, I just quoted.
      1. +1
        11 January 2014 01: 44
        And what, Jews are not enough, read FORBES
  15. 0
    10 January 2014 17: 23
    Quote: Kowalsky
    This, apparently, began with Bush Sr. What they fought for, as they say.

    This began even at the stage of formation of the capitalist system of the economy, if one carefully reads to himself the scientific works of K. Marx.
  16. +2
    10 January 2014 17: 25
    As a result, all those who observe the president believe that he is an assertive populist who has no idea about the real purpose of his policy and thinks only about achieving a short-term advertising effect.
    ---------------------------------
    In general, Zhenya wrote well, but in hindsight, like, "I, with ## a, I knew it" ... And as for the quoted phrase, I'll say even shorter: "Obama is a cheap pontorez ..."
  17. +2
    10 January 2014 18: 23
    Most likely, the Americans are taking a break, denyushka bye-bye, there is no longer enough money for a "big" military policy. We need to “talk” with Israel and try to “attract” it to ourselves, on mutually beneficial terms (after all, “our” Jews have an almost Russian soul and nostalgia sometimes, probably, torments us). We are still "friends" with Iran, but the trouble is with the Saudis - we need to look for their "weak points" and put pressure on them.
    1. +2
      10 January 2014 18: 33
      Quote: Boris63
      But the trouble is with the Saudis - we must look for their "weak spots" and put pressure on them.

      You need to find a reason, and hard to quarrel with them. Until the application of nuclear weapons. Who will need radioactive oil? We’ll kill two birds with one stone.
      1. +3
        10 January 2014 22: 07
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        You need to find a reason, and hard to quarrel with them. Until the application of nuclear weapons. Who will need radioactive oil? We’ll kill two birds with one stone.

        Or radioactive Mecca and Medina belay
      2. +2
        11 January 2014 01: 49
        no. let it go by itself outwardly, the Jews are almost ready for an equal dialogue, and we are like an arbiter. Careful! The technique must be impeccable.
  18. +12
    10 January 2014 18: 33
    Oh how wonderful this analyst is! Iran wants war. His "aggressive circles" are sharpening the knife, the mustache is gone, boss !! What does Iran "want to war" do? He makes an atomic bomb. Will we ever get rid of the representatives of a certain nation who consider all the people around them subhuman? Holy, devoutly convinced that only they, the chosen race, are endowed with brains, and all the rest are just dragging chaff in their heads?
    Evgenia Yanych, heartfelt, can you tell me what basic property nuclear weapons have? AU ?! He will not answer ... nuclear weapons have the following fundamental property. If both sides of the conflict possess these weapons, these parties are forced, by hook or by crook, to avoid open confrontation. Very much the price is high. On the contrary, if only one side possesses an overwhelming superiority in armaments, this makes it extremely arrogant, shameless, leads to murders, uncontrolled violence and territorial seizures.
    There is only one country in the East. First, it has nuclear weapons. Secondly, he enjoys the tremendous support of one "overseas friend", big and terrible. And suddenly!! It seems that this country has begun to realize that the support of an overseas friend will not be enough. Banditry is covered, it will no longer be possible to squeeze out what you just want. Ay ay ay ... What a pity ...
    1. +1
      10 January 2014 18: 38
      Quote: Mikhail3
      Ah ah ah ... What a pity ....

      Qualitatively, Misha put it, very high quality. good
    2. 0
      10 January 2014 19: 51
      Quote: Mikhail3
      It seems that this country has begun to realize that one support of an overseas friend will not be enough. Gangsterism is being covered, it will no longer be possible to squeeze what one wants. Ah ah ah ... What a pity ....
      What has Israel overcome? Have you looked at the map for a long time?
      1. Current 72
        +3
        11 January 2014 00: 58
        Aron! I wrote more than once: by decision of the UN, Israel, for the formation of the state, 14 thousand square kilometers of Palestinian territory was allocated. Please answer, but how much is Israel now occupying in the territory ??? And I will answer you: 28 thousand square kilometers of Palestinian territory. So lie, don’t lie. You are conducting a systematic GENOCIDE towards the Palestinians and their territory.
        1. -1
          11 January 2014 01: 30
          Quote: Current 72
          Aron! I wrote more than once: by decision of the UN, Israel, for the formation of the state, 14 thousand square kilometers of Palestinian territory was allocated. Please answer, but how much is Israel now occupying in the territory ??? And I will answer you: 28 thousand square kilometers of Palestinian territory. So lie, don’t lie. You are conducting a systematic GENOCIDE towards the Palestinians and their territory.

          Yeah. Maybe first you read the meaning of the word genocide, and then we compare how many Arabs were in the territory that Israel repelled in the war against the Arab coalition and how many are there today.
          Secondly, the Jews accepted the partition plan proposed by the UN, and the Arabs refused it. During the War of Independence, Israel resisted the 7 formations of the Arab states and lost 1% of its population, as if Russia today lost 1.4 million people in a year of hostilities. So, let the Arabs be offended by themselves. Well, judging by everything, the Arab state will receive the 22 world in a few years, I hope then, all of you will be happy.
    3. +5
      10 January 2014 21: 29
      Quote: Mikhail3
      It seems that this country has begun to realize that one support of an overseas friend will not be enough. Gangsterism is being covered, it will no longer be possible to squeeze what one wants. Ah ah ah ... What a pity ....

      Quote: Ingvar 72
      Qualitatively, Misha put it, very high quality.

      I will forgive, Igor !!!
      It may be of high quality, but far from reality. Of course, that something is brewing is understandable. And the redistribution of the BV will go neither towards Israel (nor from it) at the moment, the main contradictions are neither in the Poles (they were always all on the drum (and between the Sunnis and Shiites. The question is which of them will affect the BV. And Saudi for now wins, and there can be no other, at least on the basis of geographic location. Iran from BV in 1500 km and its allies, in general, has no one except Syria and Hezbollah. Therefore, the showdown will go away from Israel (as in general)
      Turkey is almost neutralized (in its rhetoric) due to Erdogan’s problems, and indeed throughout the last years, Erdogan did nothing but attack the rake in his desire to reprimand Pan-Turkism. Egypt-- in general, in a wonderful situation, they were the first to understand what Muslim brothers are, and after Sisi is elected president, he will complete it.
      Therefore, I think that the war in the BV will continue, but everything is somehow on the territory of Syria.
      Now with Obama-- everyone put an end to it and calmly wait until he leaves.
      As in the old proverb drunken oversleep - never. At BV, Obama’s policy was understood - it’s not easy - it’s worse. But in the United States, the president is not eternal - therefore, this clinical case has a fatal outcome.
      My prediction is that Satanovsky is right — if BV countries followed America blindly before, now they will set conditions for guarantees and the next president will have to work very hard to restore confidence.
      Nutin’s authority in the BV was high, it will become even higher - but not because of his position on Syria, but because everyone understands that Putin is a man of his word and you can deal with him. This does not mean that Russia will take its place The USA is in BV, but Putin’s influence has definitely grown (I say Putin, not Lavrov, because Lavrov’s policy is just stupid and inert - like in 70) I think it all comes down to individual shuttle successes of the VVP personally, on those In areas where everyone understands, you need a strong back, and not Obama wagging backwards.
      Everyone is waiting, though no one knows what. Everything is ready for some changes, but no one knows when that butterfly flies and flaps its wing in order to launch a series of irreversible changes.
      In short, wait and see.
    4. 0
      11 January 2014 01: 51
      And we all know what it's called.
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  20. +1
    10 January 2014 19: 05
    "The mood is vigorous. We are going to the bottom."

    Actually, the phrase sounds from submariners, as "The mood is cheerful. Let's go to the bottom!"
    Here we are talking about something else:
    In the Middle East Region, everyone wants to rake the heat with the wrong hands.
    It seems that the radicals from political Islam are truly ready for a fight.
    This is alarming, all these Geneva, UN sanctions are a delay of the time of hour H.
  21. 0
    10 January 2014 19: 12
    Saudi Arabia's atomic bomb is a nightmare for the whole world. It’s easier to immediately give it to the final recipients.
    1. +1
      11 January 2014 01: 52
      Send by registered mail
  22. dmb
    0
    10 January 2014 19: 49
    What worries me most is not Satanovsky's article. For a long time and consistently he has been working to ensure that Russia, with its blood and money, defends the interests of bl, sorry brotherly Israel and no less brotherly Saudis. He worries that he published his opus on the website "However", which is known to be crammed with "Russian patriots" headed by Mr. Leontyev. The latter, in fact, did not hide before that he was the official mouthpiece of the authorities, and even more so when he became vice president of state corporation. Apparently the interests of the owners of Rosneft and Satanovsky coincided. But what does the interests of the Russian people have to do with it?
  23. -1
    10 January 2014 20: 23
    Not an article but Jewish propaganda. In vain I opened the link, well, if I opened MINUS scribble.
  24. admiral
    -2
    10 January 2014 20: 37
    All the Proto-Slavs must be driven into a single stall - such is the goal of all the great Russian tsars.
    In this regard, grow the territories of Iran, Syria, and Egypt - in the framework of logic.
    1. -2
      11 January 2014 01: 53
      In this stall and stand
  25. +2
    10 January 2014 20: 50
    two key regional geopolitical adversaries of Iran: Saudi Arabia and Israel. The United States Congress also holds this position.
    A serious fire was kindled ....
    Question to the Jew:
    - Why do you have such a small country?
    “Why do we need a big one, because we are so rarely there!”
    That's the point .. bully
    1. +1
      10 January 2014 23: 24
      Well why: I happen often. I like the country. It would probably be bigger and would live there, And because of the cramped housing prices are going wild. I won’t pull it.
      1. +2
        11 January 2014 01: 31
        Quote: Do not care
        Well why: I happen often. I like the country. It would probably be bigger and would live there, And because of the cramped housing prices are going wild. I won’t pull it.

        Oh don't sprinkle salt on the wounds. crying
      2. -1
        11 January 2014 01: 55
        Live in Birobidzhan - it's cheap there
        1. 0
          11 January 2014 02: 06
          Quote: ty60
          Live in Birobidzhan - it's cheap there


          Also expensive:
          The average cost per square meter is 24,6 thousand rubles
          The average salary is 26,4 thousand rubles / month

          In my city
          The average cost per square meter - $ 800
          Median Salary - $ 4000 / month
          1. 0
            12 January 2014 13: 22
            Quote: Do not care
            The average cost per square meter is 24,6 thousand rubles
            The average salary is 26,4 thousand rubles / month

            By Togliatti standards, a good ratio. hi
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  26. Leshka
    0
    10 January 2014 21: 52
    no need to drive ahead wait and see
  27. +1
    10 January 2014 23: 18
    << ... The initiatives that he carries out are not calculated, not justified and either do not give a result, or this result is opposite to the stated goals. Moreover, the list of examples that confirm this is more than great >>

    And this is right to the point.
    God sent America 2 idiots in a row and each for 8 years.
  28. GEO
    GEO
    0
    11 January 2014 00: 14
    Oh, something I do not believe the Jews ... wassat
    1. 0
      11 January 2014 01: 56
      Believe Tatars better
    2. -1
      11 January 2014 01: 56
      "You can't trust anyone, not even yourself, you can trust me"
      1. +1
        11 January 2014 03: 09
        Joke. It’s worth a man washes his pants and condemns, no one can even be trusted to anyone, but he just wanted to fart)
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  29. 0
    11 January 2014 03: 07
    Politicus anneals))
    Lightning! Another failure of the Russian cosmonautics! As all leading news agencies report, today, February 31, 2016, the Russian Proton rocket, due to manufacturing defects, was unable to enter the calculated orbit and crashed into the capital of Saudi Arabia, Riyadh. Almost the entire ruling dynasty perished.

    The Russian Federation expresses its deep condolences, and is ready to pay one million rubles to the families of the victims, and one hundred thousand rubles to all the victims.
    Oh how))))
  30. serge
    0
    11 January 2014 12: 06
    The new idea of ​​Israel and all other Satan’s in particular - the Saudis and Iran brutally fight, and the Jews are quietly gaining territory for Greater Israel. They still clap their hands after joy after the war between Iraq and Iran. It didn’t work out with Syria, so set fire in another place. Where the Jews are, there is a war with hundreds of thousands of corpses of civilians. Moreover, Jewish children in this war do not die. Somehow it's unfair. That would take a hostage of Jews as much as possible, and as soon as they arrange a war on the Globe, immediately begin to put it against the wall. You can be sure that the wars will stop everywhere and forever, and people will do something useful for everyone, medicine there, agriculture, space. And the Jews as well.
  31. Spartan
    +1
    12 January 2014 17: 47
    I see here the majority overestimates both the Jews themselves and the influence of the Jewish people on world politics and processes! They are just ordinary Eastern people, not dissolved only due to religion and, on average, no smarter than the indigenous population of the countries in which they live! Jews are simply beneficial to the shadowy rulers of the West as a talking head and lobbyist for their interests! They have created absolutely nothing! Rome created the greatest empire and civilization that has been in constant transformation for 3 thousand years! He ruled hundreds of nations when Jews could not restore order in small Palestine and were at enmity with each other! The fate of the sacrificial lamb in the future world war was prepared for the Jewish people! Jews are now playing the role of a shepherd over the world herd! But soon all the wolves will be killed! The pasture is surrounded by electronic borders, sheep will be protected from all sides and surrounded by total control! And the shepherd will not be needed! Apparently speaking about Rome, Shmulevich knew where his masters were or guessed! wink