Military Review

Destroyed by “perestroika”, but unbreakable in consciousness

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There is no doubt that the USSR is the greatest power. The power whose army was most powerful in stories of humanity, the power, whose people for a couple of years after World War II was able to return the former state of the economy, demography and army. But even to the walls of the USSR (“iron curtain”), which were considered to be impenetrable, it turns out, you can start up a “Trojan horse” ...

What can be noted about the achievements of the Soviet people? Very much: the most powerful army the world has ever seen; industry, which in terms of production volume exceeded all industries of the world; a fleet that has no equal; the most powerful aviationcapable of erasing an entire state from the face of the earth in a matter of hours; space industry, which knew no equal; internationalism is the friendship of peoples that helped create this great state; the educational system, which every year gave millions of graduates ... And this is only a small part of its greatness.

However, as I said earlier, even the walls of the USSR could have launched a “Trojan horse.” And it just so happened that this horse turned out to be traitors among their own people: people who betrayed their own country, their own people for money. People who have doomed millions of people to starvation, and, oddly enough, some of these people are still continuing their activities.

By the time Gorbachev came to power, the country really needed to be reformed. The people waited and wanted reforms, and now Gorbachev with his speeches, which were filled with promises and examples, called for these changes. Everyone knows what happened next: the people were raised for reforms, but for what kind of reforms? On education reform? On army reform? On economic reform? Gorbachev did not know what reforms the country needed. Convulsive attempts began to start at least some of the actions, but all of their reforms gave a small result, or it became worse. All reforms stopped by inertia. An example would be the fight against drug addiction. In fact, the destruction of the alcohol industry was the destruction of one of the most profitable items in the national economy. However, by that time there were few drug addicts in the country, why start such a terrible war with alcoholic beverages? Hardly for the health of a nation that was completely healthy. But the war began, shops with alcohol were closed - so what? Huge queues for alcoholic drinks and a huge shortage of funds in the national budget. It is worth noting that the real addiction began after this struggle.

Then the so-called market economy, and again - what is the result? Attempts to repeat the Chinese experience of transition to a market economy led to failure. In China, this economy has grown at least one generation, had experience. In the USSR, not only was there no experience, they also began to do it at such a fast pace. State-owned enterprises began to sell right and left for pennies, and what is the result? The huge decline in production, and besides, the loss of jobs. Economic reforms failed.

Then the clashes between the nations began. Internationalism, on which more than one generation has grown, has cracked. The separatists, who stuck their heads out, began to find supporters for themselves, in fact, they didn’t have to look. Inter-ethnic clashes began, which in a matter of days and months turned into wars between the republics. The center was silent. The center had an army and the Ministry of Internal Affairs to stop this slaughter, but they were silent. The massacre (you would not call it otherwise) claimed the lives of hundreds of thousands of people.

At the same time began to destroy the past of the people and the state. Joseph Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili (Stalin), the man who made the dying country the second economy of the world, returned to it its former greatness, has now become the greatest tyrant and despot. The international psychology among the people's consciousness was destroyed, although not completely, but internationalism could no longer become a support for the preservation of the USSR.

Then went to the army. USSR Armed Forces - Red Army. The most powerful, battle-worthy, and best-trained army proved to be unnecessary. Talk of a mercenary, contract or professional army began. How was this army imperfect? Yes, nothing. Yes, reforms were needed, but the contract army was not needed. The beginning of the collapse of the army, and no one could stop it, in principle they could, but those who could not have been. For a couple of years, the very powerful army in the world was razed to the ground.

Everything, now nothing is needed. The economy is on its knees, internationalism as it may be, the past is changed. Everything! It remained only to destroy the country, which is no longer holding onto anything. And it was easy. 8 December 1991 was signed by the Bialowieza Agreement, which was the death sentence for the USSR.

However, the dreams of independent, prosperous and free republics quickly collapsed. The Baltic countries were in a crisis, and they could not get out of it. For the countries of the Caucasus, the situation was better. Despite the wars, Armenia and Azerbaijan managed to rise from their knees. Georgia, despite the coup and the war with Russia, leaves much to be desired in economic terms. Kazakhstan, thanks to its large resource potential, was able to find the right way out of the crisis and even build a new capital. The countries of Central Asia were in the worst condition: economic and political crises, as well as civil wars brought them to their knees. Of course, the standard of living quickly dropped (to put it mildly), and in addition, terrifying unemployment seriously lowered the potential of the countries of Central Asia. Ukraine, despite its resource, industrial and economic potential, could not avoid a crisis. However, she was able to begin the path to "salvation": debts, dying industry, a ruined army - all this is the result of self-destructive decisions of the Ukrainian government. However, it is not for us to judge their decisions. But the military-industrial complex, agriculture on the way to the best. And this is a very good direction. Ukrainian military industrial complex fulfills orders at the world level and develops. Agriculture has good alternatives for development. Belarus has good development prospects; thanks to trade relations with Russia and Kazakhstan, the country's economy is developing.

What about Russia? She got the most. The rapid decline and crisis of the economy, the destruction of the army, the demographic crisis brought the country to its knees. It should be noted that the reforms did not lead to good, at least in the short term, and in the long term, we should also see ... The situation changed at the beginning of 2000's. Due to the increase in oil prices, Russia managed to pay off debts and start raising the economy. Military reforms began, raising pensions and salaries. In 2013, Russia became the fifth economy in the world. But even this did not help solve all the problems: corruption, economic slowdown, poverty. The demographic crisis could also be noted, but in 2013, the first positive growth in 20 years was noted, albeit minimal.

The coming 2014 year promises to be “not boring” for all CIS countries. It is hoped that this year the leaders of the countries will make the right decisions that will benefit the states (although it’s probably very naive to believe in it). However, 20 years of crisis, problems, and sometimes civil wars had to give a cruel lesson to the leadership of the countries. Despite the death of the USSR, its legacy still lives: industry, infrastructure, the military-industrial complex, the army and navy, education, a common past. All this still lives in the minds of those lucky enough to live at this time. Even if many did not like it.
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  1. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 6 January 2014 15: 27
    +55
    Well written. Offset to the author. But corruption is today the main enemy in the country.
    1. sledgehammer102
      sledgehammer102 6 January 2014 16: 32
      +8
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Well written. Offset to the author. But corruption is today the main enemy in the country.

      Corruption begins with the usual household doom or bribes to the traffic copbut ends with growth of public funds officials who grew up in such a society that promises very serious problems to people doing this on Judgment Day.

      Now for the article.
      The author's reasoning is very trivial, I would say in a cliche, although he does not go too far either towards people "who are doing well" and "all-footed people."

      There are a couple of comments.
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Thanks to rising oil prices, Russia managed to pay off debts and begin to raise the economy.

      If we compare the growth of GDP and the rise in oil prices in the Russian Federation and in other oil countries, we get the following picture.


      This suggests that the Russian economy, although it depends on oil, has developed far not only due to an increase in its price.

      But even this helped solve all the problems: corruption, a decline in economic growth, and poverty.

      Corruption - Yes! True, in our country it is not as high as, for example, in all the praised West or China, which should not justify embezzlers, but it is an indicator that combating self-interest (and this is the root of this problem) only by legal methods (even executions) is not quite effective, since self-interest - not a violation of the law, and breaking moral barriers is a deal with conscience.
      Economic decline - Yes! Here we must "thank" the EU and the United States with their populists and life on credit.
      Poverty - in my opinion in the Russian Federation this indicator is one of the lowest in Europe, as well as unemployment? But there is a problem, and it must be solved.
      1. GREAT RUSSIA
        6 January 2014 17: 05
        +7
        I agree, at the expense of oil. However, it was oil prices at the beginning of the 2000 that played a decisive role in raising the economy and paying off debts.
        As for my thinking, do not be surprised. I am still a young man. So I improve my views, they have not yet fully developed.
        1. sledgehammer102
          sledgehammer102 6 January 2014 18: 50
          -1
          Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
          I agree, at the expense of oil. However, it was oil prices at the beginning of the 2000 that played a decisive role in raising the economy and paying off debts.

          As you can see, the price of oil began to rise markedly only after the 2004 of the year, which in no way draws to the beginning of 2000x, but rather to the middle. Meanwhile, just at that time, debts were being paid, salaries and pensions were rising.
          1. kris
            kris 8 January 2014 01: 06
            +1
            Quote: sledgehammer102
            Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
            I agree, at the expense of oil. However, it was oil prices at the beginning of the 2000 that played a decisive role in raising the economy and paying off debts.

            As you can see, the price of oil began to rise markedly only after the 2004 of the year, which in no way draws to the beginning of 2000x, but rather to the middle. Meanwhile, just at that time, debts were being paid, salaries and pensions were rising.
            1. 120352
              120352 8 January 2014 12: 37
              +8
              And for some reason, my income remained at the 2010 level ...
              1. Vadivak
                Vadivak 8 January 2014 14: 59
                +7
                Quote: 120352
                And for some reason, my income remained at the 2010 level ..


                This means that someone has arrived.
            2. silver_roman
              silver_roman 8 January 2014 16: 14
              +1
              average indicators DO NOT SAY ANYTHING! well i.e. they are talking about something, but not about the welfare of the people.
              You know how a joke is: you eat cabbage, and I am meat, and together we eat cabbage rolls!
              Moscow, St. Petersburg, the North (Yamalo Nenets, Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug) live much richer than the rest.
              hence, such indicators on RFP on average.
              But still, I agree that the WHOLE level has grown by itself!
              1. sledgehammer102
                sledgehammer102 8 January 2014 21: 16
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                Quote: silver_roman
                You know how a joke is: you eat cabbage, and I am meat, and together we eat cabbage rolls!


                Take 10% of the richest and 10% of the poorest, and you will be happy.
                By the way, the salaries of 10% of the poorest citizens grew three to four times faster than the rest. This does not say that we have no poor left, but suggests that the same gap between the layers is becoming smaller, at least for 80% of citizens.
                From 1999 to 2012, salaries really increased (including inflation for food, utilities and gasoline)an average of 3,5 times.
                Another thing is interesting, oil revenues over the same period also increased, approximately, by 3,5-4 times.
        2. anarh
          anarh 7 January 2014 07: 46
          +4
          Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
          As for my thinking, do not be surprised. I am still a young man. So I perfect my views, they have not yet fully developed

          A man caught a goldfish.
          - Let go, I will fulfill any desire.
          - Make me wise.
          He let go and immediately grabbed his head.
          - What an eccentric I was (in the letter D). wink
          When he was young - he also did not bend so. Fortunately, by the time rectifiers were found - for which I am grateful to them.
          But in general, it is more appropriate for young men to listen, rather than speak out.
          1. GREAT RUSSIA
            7 January 2014 10: 26
            +6
            Well, I’m listening to you already. Besides, with respect. Thanks for the advice.
        3. silver_roman
          silver_roman 8 January 2014 16: 13
          -3
          Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
          However, it was oil prices in the early 2000s that played a decisive role in raising the economy and paying off debts.


          and it was oil prices that drove the last nail into the coffin of the USSR in the late 80s and early 90s!
      2. dropout
        dropout 6 January 2014 17: 26
        +4
        quotesledgehammer102
        Now for the article.
        The author argues very trivially, I would say by cliche,

        I rarely put cons. But I put the article. The author thinks superficially, he himself was apparently young or small at all and didn’t get into the situation, but hadn’t yet learned how to work with documents.
      3. Orik
        Orik 6 January 2014 20: 31
        +8
        Quote: sledgehammer102
        This suggests that the Russian economy, although it depends on oil, has developed far not only due to an increase in its price.

        This only speaks of a low base at the beginning of the start, both economic at the level with the SA (see graph) and political after the struggle. It is necessary to compare not with the worst, but with the best, for example, the Stalinist modernization or the growth of China's GDP http://www.kaig.ru/gdp88.pdf, and you still need to look at the quality indicators http://www.kaig.ru/gdp25.pdf
        1. sledgehammer102
          sledgehammer102 6 January 2014 20: 52
          +3
          Quote: Orik
          One must not compare with the worst, but with the best, for example, Stalin's modernization or the growth of China's GDP


          Wow wow peer review !!! Compare incorrectly ...
          Oil rises in price for all the same way, respectively tryndet about what is not compared - nonsense. Libya has a low base, and it has an increase of 700% per year.
          For 13 years we have become the fifth economy of the world. Could have been the third, if, like China, they would have scored on such a concept as social services, which includes pensions, benefits and payments for the birth of the 2 child, they would also have canceled budget places in the university, in China all this is not. . Comparison with Stalin is also incorrect. Actually understand your last and link to the website of the Communist Party
        2. alexng
          alexng 9 January 2014 02: 29
          -1
          Quote: Orik
          It is necessary to compare not with the worst, but with the best, for example, Stalinist modernization


          And this will be the stupidest comparison. Then there was the USSR with the 15-th republics, and now only the 1 / 15 part of it. Oh, sorry 3 / 15. I forgot that now Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan. The state can be self-sufficient, only with a population of at least 200 million people, otherwise any serious production will be unprofitable. Evolution moves only forward, and everything that It tries to translate into reverse is destroyed by Nature itself.
      4. nikcris
        nikcris 6 January 2014 21: 38
        +2
        Quote: sledgehammer102
        Quote: Scandinavian
        Well written. Offset to the author. But corruption is today the main enemy in the country.

        Corruption begins with the usual household doom or bribes to the traffic copbut ends with growth of public funds officials who grew up in such a society that promises very serious problems to people doing this on Judgment Day.

        Now for the article.
        The author's reasoning is very trivial, I would say in a cliche, although he does not go too far either towards people "who are doing well" and "all-footed people."

        There are a couple of comments.
        Quote: Scandinavian
        Thanks to rising oil prices, Russia managed to pay off debts and begin to raise the economy.

        If we compare the growth of GDP and the rise in oil prices in the Russian Federation and in other oil countries, we get the following picture.


        This suggests that the Russian economy, although it depends on oil, has developed far not only due to an increase in its price.

        But even this helped solve all the problems: corruption, a decline in economic growth, and poverty.

        Corruption - Yes! True, in our country it is not as high as, for example, in all the praised West or China, which should not justify embezzlers, but it is an indicator that combating self-interest (and this is the root of this problem) only by legal methods (even executions) is not quite effective, since self-interest - not a violation of the law, and breaking moral barriers is a deal with conscience.
        Economic decline - Yes! Here we must "thank" the EU and the United States with their populists and life on credit.
        Poverty - in my opinion in the Russian Federation this indicator is one of the lowest in Europe, as well as unemployment? But there is a problem, and it must be solved.
      5. Magadan
        Magadan 7 January 2014 00: 40
        +19
        Sledgehammer. Plus I put you, but I do not agree on corruption. Everything is too simple for you: we are supposedly to blame. Like, we also give bribes to traffic cops. Sorry, but I am not a member of the civil service, which means I don’t take money from the Motherland, which means I don’t deceive. My task is exclusively family, children, etc. And only for this is the demand from me.
        Our military, when necessary, go and die for the country. Militiamen can also fall under bullets. And what about officials then? Don't owe anything to anyone at all? And they will still refer to ordinary people, they say, "everyone steals and I'm no worse?" No, my friend, since you sat down on a salary from the state - then serve the state and do not nod at those who support you on their taxes. Do your duty as a soldier.
        1. sledgehammer102
          sledgehammer102 7 January 2014 04: 12
          +4
          Quote: Magadan
          Everything is too simple for you: we are supposedly to blame. Like, we also give bribes to traffic cops. Sorry, but I’m not a member of the civil service, so I don’t take money from the Motherland, and therefore I don’t deceive. My task is exclusively family, children, etc. And only for this is the demand from me.

          Giving a bribe is as sinful as taking this bribe.
          To steal parts / tools from the factory is tantamount to stealing budget money, just the scope and possibilities are different.
          Officials come to us not from outer space, but from society, and the very first corrupt officials who, in principle, corrupted our society, came out of Soviet citizens — the same miners, furniture makers, and other very ordinary professions.
          So homosexuals in government appear why? Because of the government? No, they appear due to the fact that in society they begin to consider it normal, and there are more and more of them, and then someone falls into power and pulls the rest out of solidarity.

          I’m not condoning our officials in any way, but I do not condone our citizens, many of whom are rude than the ranks, and just as they do not disdain corruption, for them it is everyday. And the reason for everything is self-interest, which is treated not by laws, but by ideology and education, especially of children and youth - the future healthy society.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 8 January 2014 15: 35
            +1
            Quote: sledgehammer102
            So homosexuals in government appear why? Because of the government? No, they appear due to the fact that in society they begin to consider it normal, and there are more and more of them, and then someone falls into power and pulls the rest out of solidarity.

            Chet, I did not understand when in our society they began to relate to rear-wheel drive normally? The majority of people did not change their attitude towards them. More of them are getting on top, from TV screens, from show business. And they stubbornly climb into power not by chance, but because in order to compensate for their own inferiority, the Honduran power complex is overdeveloped, pathologically excessive. Honor Klimov for general development. God's people for example. hi
            1. sledgehammer102
              sledgehammer102 8 January 2014 15: 45
              +1
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Chet, I did not understand when in our society they began to relate to rear-wheel drive normally?


              Since nobody treats them well, they are not in the Duma, or there are, but they are hiding it intensely. The same goes for municipalities or governors.

              Similarly, with bribes.
              Healthy Society - Low Corruption
              Unhealthy (self-serving) - high level of corruption

              It is no coincidence that rowing in the USA is the most popular, since worshiping the golden calf there is the meaning of life, this infection then came to us at the sunset of the USSR and the beginning of the 90's, hence the ears of this problem.

              It is impossible to overcome corruption exclusively by legal methods, it can only be reduced a little, but not eradicated. This is a matter of conscience and moral character, and it all starts with the family and school.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 8 January 2014 16: 13
                +4
                Quote: sledgehammer102
                , then in the Duma they are not, or are, but they are hiding it intensely

                They do not hide anything. In the Duma, the deputies themselves jokingly call one floor blue.
                Quote: sledgehammer102
                It is impossible to overcome corruption exclusively by legal methods, it can only be reduced a little, but not eradicated
                In the army, soldiers obey and
                they take an example from their commander, a prudent director at the enterprise — the owner, if his subordinates steal — he will dismiss at least. Unless, of course, he didn’t steal, or not a temporary manager. And at school, if the director is not dead, then the school will be exemplary. And if he works on his pocket, but scores on the educational process, then the students will be gouging. A country is like a family, where in the first place everything depends on its head. Nakosyachili children-belt hanging on the wall. The next time they look at the wall, and the desire to mow is gone. Hope the analogies are clear. hi
                1. sledgehammer102
                  sledgehammer102 8 January 2014 21: 19
                  0
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  A country is like a family, where in the first place everything depends on its head.


                  And where does the country begin? From the family. So the chapter must be sought there.

                  And the commander becomes a good commander only if his commander was not slobbery, the latter, in turn, was not slobbery, because he was hammered into his head from childhood that he was badly gouged.
                  The chain returned to the family and school again.
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 8 January 2014 21: 46
                    0
                    Quote: sledgehammer102
                    And where does the country begin? From the family. So the chapter must be sought there.

                    Not right. You still understood the analogy. I mentioned the family to the fact that the head of the family sets the tone there. And in the country, the head of the country also sets the tone. At least obliged.
                    Quote: sledgehammer102
                    The chain returned to the family and school again.

                    Globally, of course, everything starts with the family, I do not argue. But with the school of complexity. Now the school is contrary to the family. Our education has been destroyed, all the teachers of the old school will confirm this. And the teachers of the new school are forced to photograph ballots with a checkmark for EP in the elections, and go to campaign for parents of students to vote for EP. Talk with friends, confirm. simple practice. hi
                    1. sledgehammer102
                      sledgehammer102 8 January 2014 23: 11
                      -1
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Not right. You still understood the analogy. I mentioned the family to the fact that the head of the family sets the tone there. And in the country, the head of the country also sets the tone. At least obliged.


                      Is Alexander Sh a worthy ruler? So why did his own people kill him?
                      Nicholas II? - for what such sins his subjects shot him?

                      The ruler sets the tone for the development of the country, but affects moral qualities indirectly, and the root of corruption in self-interest is a purely moral quality.

                      As I wrote above, corruption begins with theft at the factory or a bribe to a traffic cop (when he does not demand, and you give, so that they are not deprived of their rights or serious fines are not written)and grandiose ministerial corruption scandals are a consequence, or shoots of this trend, which justifies neither the first nor the second.

                      You most likely will not agree with me, but answer directly - to give a bribe to a traffic cop or to steal gas from your company is corruption?

                      There was KSPSS and honest Soviet people (it's true) - then, the value system began to change, primarily among ordinary citizens - some of these citizens made their way to power - then there was a "sausage" riotwhen people themselves destroyed their own country with a smile on their face, screaming about "Billions of the CPSU to the people" (they wrote about money, which suggests that these people moved HARVEST, which then and now they are trying to disguise by a sense of justice).
                      Something like this.
                      The value system will change, that is, we will move away from worship "golden calf" to something more spiritual, for example, to honor or public utility(as it was under the emperor or during the formation and development of the USSR), corruption itself will come to naught. Not fast, but it will do.

                      And our great Army will help us in this, as always in our history, for it was and remains the point of concentration of the most loyal people of the country!
                      1. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 9 January 2014 10: 16
                        0
                        Quote: sledgehammer102
                        Is Alexander Sh a worthy ruler? So why did his own people kill him?

                        Masons do not think people. When killing the second, the Jews distinguished themselves.
                        Quote: sledgehammer102
                        people on their own ruined their own country with a smile on their face, shouting about "Billions of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union to the people" (they wrote about money, which suggests that these people were moved by RED, which then and now are trying to disguise by a sense of justice).

                        Dough without yeast does not rise. And who added them, now, after many years, it’s easy to calculate.
                        Quote: sledgehammer102
                        And our great Army will help us in this, as always in our history, for it was and remains the point of concentration of the most loyal people of the country!
                        Your words, yes to God’s ears. hi
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        2. ty60
          ty60 8 January 2014 01: 12
          +2
          I was familiar with one of these. He used to be a builder, then a deputy. There were few who climbed to the post of head of the district administration. He took only 100 pieces of Russians. he made such people outcasts of the Middle Ages. Our tolerance breeds them.
    2. alone
      alone 6 January 2014 17: 17
      +11
      Destroyed by “perestroika”, but unbreakable in consciousness


      if people would have a consciousness, the union would hold on to this day.
      responsibility. Each former citizen of the USSR is guilty of the collapse of the Union.
      But there is a degree of wineiness. Someone is guilty of silence, inaction. but who directly participated in the destructive process. This is the bitter truth.
      1. Nikaviz
        Nikaviz 6 January 2014 18: 00
        +43
        Living in the provinces .... Moscow did not ask ... Kodla, merchants, and currency traders ... it was a bunch and decided everything .. am
        1. Renat
          Renat 6 January 2014 22: 30
          +11
          The author made an inaccuracy about the leader. Even when he was secretary general, the bald maize grower, one might say, having picked up the initiative of Malenkoy and Beria, threw mud at HIM in 1956. Even at the famous congress of the CPSU, Khrushchev's report "On the cult of personality and its consequences" was carried out, which was later so sweetly savored by various liberals.
          1. GREAT RUSSIA
            7 January 2014 14: 56
            +4
            Yes, I agree with you, but the real persecution began precisely during Gorbachev. This is also the charge of deportations, repressions, etc.
          2. vlad.svargin
            vlad.svargin 7 January 2014 16: 14
            +10
            Renat
            Even when he was secretary general, the bald maize grower, one might say, having picked up the initiative of Malenkoy and Beria, poured mud at HIM in 1956. Even at the famous congress of the CPSU, Khrushchev's report "On the cult of personality and its consequences" was carried out, which was later so sweetly savored by all sorts of liberals

            While still being the curator of the KGB since 1945, "this maize" began to remove real patriots from the organs and replace them with his own people. And after the death of JV Stalin, he began the "first perestroika" not only with lies, but also with the collapse of the Stalinist economy. Ministries were destroyed and replaced by Economic Councils, the army, navy, agriculture were destroyed, and
            "unpromising villages", farms, personal subsidiary farms were destroyed, draconian taxes were introduced (for example, on trees, eggs, wool). Thanks to "this perestroika" we, even already in the time of Leonid Brezhnev, began to buy wheat and other foodstuffs abroad. Random people (by acquaintance) who were completely far from professionalism, and sometimes "leaders in accountability", were intensively promoted to the management apparatus. Although it was removed, the Khrushchev virus remained. In practice, "perestroika" along the lines of the West continued, especially in the KGB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs and under Brezhnev. He simply did not delve deeply, which was very convenient. Especially under Yu. Andropov (before the KGB), although then he began to "move" to strengthen the country, for which he was "buried", because the process went on apart from him. It was on his instructions that the "young combine operator" was promoted to the authorities (the future perestroika Gorbachev). It's time for the second restructuring, here the author of the article is right: <Gorbachev did not know what reforms the country needed. Convulsive attempts began to begin at least some actions, but all their reforms yielded either a small result, or it got worse. All reforms stopped by inertia.>> A more intense destruction of the country began. A policy of loss of people's trust was pursued (an artificial shortage of everything that was possible, and food was destroyed or thrown away somewhere — he himself more than once saw heaps of canned meat and smoked "green" sausages in the forest) This was the most outright sabotage. Only provocations in the union republics are worth something (Kazakhstan, Georgia, Azerbaydzhan, Lithuania, etc.) !!! (where was our "all-powerful KGB"? - just reborn!) And, as always, Gorbachev is not "in business" in vain the West gave him the Nobel Prize, thanked him "for his service." And then the alcoholic and semi-literate power-lover Boris Yeltsin was "promoted" to power, easily amenable to Western propaganda. By his decrees (at the prompts of advisers from the CIA), he completely ruined the entire economy. As a result of his activities, there was a "redistribution of property" - all coups end with the redistribution of property in favor of the "God-chosen liberals" who became aligarchs. And practically their influence (liberals) in the power structures is currently hindering all the undertakings of V. Putin. Moreover, their frantic propaganda, together with the Western media against Putin, only convinces us of the correctness of his course.
        2. anarh
          anarh 7 January 2014 07: 50
          +11
          Quote: NIKAVIZ
          Living in the provinces .... Moscow did not ask.

          Why - they asked.
          If you remember, there was even a referendum.
          They only made a turn.
          Maybe that's why they asked?
          winked
          1. stroporez
            stroporez 8 January 2014 09: 40
            +1
            Quote: anarh
            If you remember, there was even a referendum.
            They only made a turn.
            - from this it follows that ALL regimes on the territory of the Union are anti-people. and in relation to them the use of the term "democratic" is at least incorrect ...................
        3. Gorinich
          Gorinich 8 January 2014 15: 23
          +1
          Once they asked, and the people turned out to be for the Union, but the Union was destroyed anyway. We did it consciously!
          1. Rink
            Rink 8 January 2014 17: 28
            +2
            Respect to the author! But here he has a statement, causing a desire to argue:
            ... Attempts to repeat the Chinese experience of the transition to a market economy led to failure. ...


            WERE THEY AT ALL THESE ATTEMPTS?
            What can be mistaken for such tests - the Chubais-Gaidar experiments ?! There were no attempts. to reorganize the economy in the post-Soviet period, under Yeltsin, no one tried to launch the modernization of the country, even such a task was not set - to revive power and competitiveness. Neither in Russia, nor in the republics.
            Bacchanalia of controlled structural disintegration is the most accurate definition for the period of the 90s.
            All actions of "our" "top managers" and super-economists trained in international (American) centers fall under the category of treason and deserve capital punishment.
            They were fully controlled by the State Department and solved the exact opposite problem: preparation for the complete destruction of the geopolitical competitor, the destruction of the country and people as a single phenomenon.

            PS All criticism of the economic activity of GDP, which the Internet is now full of, when impatient forum experts who are impatient and very irreconcilable in judgments, who are the best at managing the country, goggles at the country's problems, it just annoys me.

            Russia is like a wounded, sick person, with an amputated arm and kidney, with pneumonia and broken ribs. So far, he only managed to bandage open wounds, stop the bleeding and gradually limp towards recovery ...
            And then these critics of ours: - "Something is slowly limping! But you don't look very cheerful, and you smile somehow strained .. Look at the States, - see what a relaxed smile? And it goes so quickly and evenly, without limping . Learn, you fool! "
            And instead of putting a shoulder, or at least giving a pill to the temperature, these critics begin to get mean and malicious. Such is the heightened humanitarian sympathy for the relatives of the victims of the battle.
      2. Angry reader
        Angry reader 6 January 2014 23: 46
        +3
        why do you speak for everyone, recall the results of the referendum?
        1. anarh
          anarh 7 January 2014 16: 04
          +3
          Why - remind.
          But as far as I remember, the majority was for preserving the Union.
          It, of course, may have forgotten that. So many years have passed.
          1. Angry reader
            Angry reader 7 January 2014 18: 10
            +1
            ... we have the same opinion ..
            you don't seem to understand me. About "all the guilty people" ...
      3. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 7 January 2014 08: 40
        +6
        The article about the USSR and Russia is correct, in spite of some condemnation here.
        The most characteristic feature of the well-being of the people in the state is the demographic growth of the population and the welfare of children and the elderly. This was all present in the USSR.
        There were no cheating and buying foreign football clubs, luxury yachts and private jets in the USSR, BUT there were no beggars, homeless, sub-hungry old people rummaging in garbage bins, massively abandoned children, as is happening now.
        Recently, I can’t watch on TV an increasing number of films about constant terrorist attacks and explosions, about technological and aviation disasters due to the collapse of the economy and industry, about the kingdom and supremacy of bandits and power-keeping non-humans over the lives and disasters of ordinary citizens, old people, women and children for these bastards turned into a commodity on which they earn their money and fortune.
        The soul and heart are torn over the bitterness and suffering of people, tears welling in his eyes. Sorry can be messy.
        And here there is no need for any "successful schedules" for the development of Russia's "prosperity", benevolent speeches of those in power, when all this is in plain sight. All these speeches and "successful charts" are cheating for the complacency of gullible people.
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        2. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 7 January 2014 18: 00
          +3

          In addition to the "prosperous" development of Russia, lovers of "successful and beautiful" statistical charts of the development of today's Russia.
          1. 1goose3
            1goose3 7 January 2014 22: 39
            0
            Vladimir, what year is this appeal? Clarification is necessary, otherwise it’s not good.
            1. vladimirZ
              vladimirZ 8 January 2014 06: 32
              0
              Vladimir, what year is this appeal? Clarification is necessary, otherwise it’s not good.


              And in the same place it says - "Published on Nov 11, 2013"
            2. str73
              str73 8 January 2014 16: 37
              -1
              Konchalovsky said: "Listen to President Medvedev." Perhaps it was a preparation for the March 2012 presidential elections. They did not break off ...
          2. Who
            Who 8 January 2014 10: 25
            0
            Nonsense says Konchalovsky. He is not allowed to go to the State Film Fund, he is not given money for his projects, so he began to arise

            There are very simple numbers that characterize the current level of the Russian economy. When I recognized them, I was simply "stunned"! In 2012, the Russians
            _ bought almost 3 million cars, spending $ 40 mln.!
            _ bought 64 mln. m2 of housing, having spent $ 60 mln.
            _Bought tour packages for $ 42 mln.
            _ ruble deposits — namely ruble deposits; as of January 2013, Russians had 14.2 trillion rubles! More than the budget of Russia! Moreover, deposits from vip-clients was only 5.8%

            But this is nonsense in comparison with what is happening in industry
            _U Rosatom signed contracts for $ 72 billion. And in 2013, the United States signed with Rosatom contracts for the supply of fuel for nuclear plants already at $ 11.5 billion. And this is only with the United States, which is no longer able to provide for themselves, like most European countries.
            _Gosoboronservis signed contracts has $ 33 billion. At the same time, there is an intensive rearmament of the Russian army.
            _In space, Russia is still the first. Even the USA flies on Russian engines.
            _ There is an intensive restoration of civil aviation, engineering, Russian Railways, port facilities, tanker and ice fleets, roads and bridges. Slow? Yes, but Russia is a huge country and it lacks sensible engineers and skilled hands.

            I could say a lot more, but laziness. I myself live in Ukraine, which is rolling into the abyss of poverty and destruction.
            1. demel2
              demel2 8 January 2014 11: 24
              +2
              We fly into space on Soviet engines. IMHO.
              1. Who
                Who 8 January 2014 15: 00
                +3
                Why change what works great?
              2. silver_roman
                silver_roman 8 January 2014 16: 24
                +1
                Quote: demel2
                We fly into space on Soviet engines. IMHO.

                So what? the arsenal of many more countries is the 1911 pistol. Colt 1911.
                It's not about age, but about quality.
                Here we need not new engines, but new principles, i.e. technology. you will not be fed up with modernization alone!
                1. Vadivak
                  Vadivak 8 January 2014 21: 28
                  +1
                  Quote: silver_roman
                  So what? the arsenal of many more countries is the 1911 pistol.


                  He is only a pistol of the 1911 model. And we have the Volkhov Commune since 1915 it has been serving naturally
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            3. kris
              kris 8 January 2014 12: 54
              +3
              Quote: vem
              There are very simple numbers that characterize the current level of the Russian economy. When I recognized them, I was simply "stunned"! In 2012, the Russians
              _ bought almost 3 million cars, spending $ 40 mln.!
              _ bought 64 mln. m2 of housing, having spent $ 60 mln.
              _Bought tour packages for $ 42 mln.
              _ ruble deposits — namely ruble deposits; as of January 2013, Russians had 14.2 trillion rubles! More than the budget of Russia! Moreover, deposits from vip-clients was only 5.8%

              one correction!
              According to the Central Bank at November 1, the total amount of loans granted to citizens is 9,6 trillion rubles. Each Russian (including people with disabilities, the elderly and children) owes an average of more than 60 thousand rubles.
              1. Who
                Who 8 January 2014 14: 58
                0
                You need to add three to your correction
                1. The amount of deposits is not related to loans issued.
                2. Problem loans, as I recall, in the 1.9% area
                3. It is not indicated how much of the loans received is repaid.
                1. kris
                  kris 8 January 2014 17: 32
                  +2
                  Quote: vem
                  You need to add three to your correction
                  1. The amount of deposits is not related to loans issued.
                  2. Problem loans, as I recall, in the 1.9% area
                  3. It is not indicated how much of the loans received is repaid.

                  You're lying my friend!
                  Currently and in the future, 2013 - 2014 loan debt is projected. will grow. Today they make up to 6,3 percent of the total number of loans issued. The share of bad debts has increased according to the financial market regulator of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. This increase took place from 6-ty to 6,3 percent. Currently, there has been a sharp increase in problem loans of the population.
                  http://www.finaman.ru/finaman/dolgi_po_kreditam_2013_2014.htm
                  1. Who
                    Who 9 January 2014 06: 06
                    0
                    Interestingly, what am I "lying" about?

                    _ Under item 1? Then you don’t understand the meaning of what you’re reading.

                    _According to item 2? You are not careful - I wrote "as far as I remember." But, even if we take on faith the figures you cited - 6.3% of problem loans, then it is at the level of the same loans in the EU. Moreover, in your link there is no reference to the data of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. This is the first thing. Secondly, I made a reservation saying instead of "bad" loans "problem". Do you understand the difference between the terms "problem loan" and "bad loan"? And now I quote: "According to the OKB, the share of consumer loans, without the possibility of collection, as of August 1, 2013 reached 1,2%".
                    See http://bankogolik.com/297-dolgi-po-kreditkam-stanovyatsya-vse-bolee-beznadezhnym
                    i.html

                    _Do you at least understand what I said in paragraph 3?
                  2. Who
                    Who 9 January 2014 06: 16
                    -1
                    Oh, and you’ll even catch up: http://sochinews.net/v-rossii/1372-v-rossii-rastet-obem-beznadezhnyx-kreditov.ht
                    ml

                    ps. Just read carefully
          3. FREGATENKAPITAN
            FREGATENKAPITAN 8 January 2014 11: 07
            +4
            Forgive me, this gentleman is clearly not an authority, let alone an expert, but a man who has lived most of his life in the United States filming stupid action films like Tango and Cash, evaluates our country by the number and quality of public toilets ....... And whose wife from the Italian kitchen studio tells our housewives like foie gras, etc. cook .......- "Take olive oil from *******"
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          5. str73
            str73 8 January 2014 16: 34
            +1
            Mr. Konchalovsky only forgot to say when all this outrage described by him began. And I recall: It began with the collapse of the USSR and the advent to power of the liberals so beloved by him.
          6. Snoop
            Snoop 8 January 2014 19: 40
            0
            Why is he out of touch? Didn’t they like him (the creative intelligentsia) during the execution of the Supreme Council call for crushing the red-brown * foul?
        3. ty60
          ty60 8 January 2014 01: 26
          0
          However, unfortunately there was a welterweight class. Eternal activists in all profiles, liberated trade union leaders, etc. Relatives of managers, not to be confused with the leaders! They were essentially sinecure.
    3. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 6 January 2014 18: 13
      +9
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Well written. Offset to the author.

      I would argue with him about the Russian army. Rather, with the denial of the author, the contract army. In the current age of advanced technologies, it is very difficult for conscripts to master military equipment in one year. In such troops as missile, air defense, RTV, etc., I believe should be professionals who know their technique by heart. And conscripts should serve in secondary posts. On which the combat effectiveness of the unit, or in the infantry, does not greatly depend.
      1. sledgehammer102
        sledgehammer102 6 January 2014 18: 54
        +5
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        I would argue with him about the Russian army. Rather, with the denial of the author, the contract army. In the current age of advanced technologies, it is very difficult for conscripts to master military equipment in one year. In such troops as missile, air defense, RTV, etc., I believe should be professionals who know their technique by heart. And conscripts should serve in secondary posts. On which the combat effectiveness of the unit, or in the infantry, does not greatly depend.


        Of course. Rather, it would be right to equip all the formations involved in one way or another participating in active hostilities by contractors and in parallel with them to train young people. Now this is being done in principle, but still, a significant period is required.
      2. Sosland
        Sosland 6 January 2014 19: 16
        +14
        I agree with you a little year, but two is just right. With such a vast territory as ours, only contract soldiers cannot solve the problem of combat effectiveness. There is a Soviet experience in training soldiers. Remember the preparation of the DShB of the Airborne Forces of the Soviet era, the main thing is that it was really preparation and not the construction of bases "like rythnoe" and it should begin at school. I remember my school years, in the SAMBO section the trainer checked my school diary every week, and at school at the beginning of the academic year they asked for a certificate from the section :). I think comments are superfluous, especially since no one paid for visiting the gym, only a certificate from the clinic was needed.
        1. anarh
          anarh 7 January 2014 08: 04
          +5
          Quote: SoSland
          I agree with you a little year, but two just right

          Only Slavs and Tatars are to be taken into the army.
          Keep military cabinets with registered AK in the military registration and enlistment offices. Once a year - weekly fees.
          Ethnic crime will somehow resolve itself.
          And no one will venture into such a territory. And on launchers, of course, let the contractors sit.
          From the Slavs.
      3. GREAT RUSSIA
        7 January 2014 15: 34
        +6
        I agree, it is necessary for conscripts to give 2 or 3 years of service, since they are a potential reserve. As for the contract soldiers, they should be given 4-5 years of training, because they are the backbone of the army and they will be the first to go into battle, so you should not be shy of training years, otherwise then they themselves will regret in battle.
      4. silver_roman
        silver_roman 8 January 2014 16: 28
        +1
        this is all true, but a contract army is not an alternative. contract soldiers are mercenaries. Money is important to them. There would have been a contract army in 1941, I believe, we would not have been.
        This applies more to the Amer army, where they fight for numbers on the master card, for citizenship, etc.
        I’m all about the fact that you can’t follow the path of the Africans.
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    5. w.ebdo.g
      w.ebdo.g 6 January 2014 20: 23
      +8
      the main enemy in the country is not corruption, but the fact that the country itself is currently acupunctured by the Americans.
      The most important thing, due to which America governs our politicians (country), is to manage our central bank, all the money of the country.
      Our money does not belong to the country, as you and I decided in 1993, by adopting article No. 75 in the Constitution of Russia, which describes in three sentences that the central bank is not subordinate to anyone in the state, and chooses the management procedure on its own and only consults with the Russian government.
      According to our law, no one can influence him.
      Only in our country (and Germany) is the law on the central bank written directly in the constitution to make it more difficult to change it. The capitalists took control of our money from us, now they do not care who will be the president in Russia ...
      and the media tells us that all the problems are corruption and that the President is to blame for everything.
      We need a general referendum in which the people of Russia decide to subordinate the central bank to the Russian government. Otherwise, be in trouble.

      just about the constitution
      1. A.YARY
        A.YARY 6 January 2014 21: 38
        +4
        And what’s the most interesting a new "guard" is already being forged for the new dissident troops.In case the Russians (as we are called on the foreign land) suddenly regain their PEOPLE'S EMPIRE.
        Please read: http://www.odnako.org/blogs/show_35603/
        1. anarh
          anarh 7 January 2014 08: 07
          +12
          Quote: A.YARY
          In that case, if the Russians (as we are called on a foreign land) suddenly restore their PEOPLE'S EMPIRE.

          And where will they go (RUSSIAN)?
          Of course, they will restore it.
          There is simply no other way in this garden of diverging paths.
          1. 120352
            120352 8 January 2014 12: 52
            0
            It's time to expand our empire to the borders that were before its collapse. And to include in its composition "the wicked offspring of the Versailles treaty" and Finland, as it was before the revolution. Moreover, Finland is already ours. Nearly.
    6. Angry reader
      Angry reader 6 January 2014 23: 45
      +6
      the main enemy is the dominance of temporary workers in our state apparatus.
      Corruption was there will be - on different scales, but it was and will be.
      but 9 out of 10, departures for the cordon, those in power who fell into disgrace are a problem. if they fly, then there is where to fly.
      1. 120352
        120352 8 January 2014 13: 02
        -4
        Corruption can be eradicated very easily. It is easy to carry out all payments by bank transfer and through a bank, as the United States does. It is impossible to give or take an extra cent: everything is under control! Only for this it is necessary that corruptionists do not fight corruption, as it is now. And about the fact that corruption was, is and will be, it is a stereotype of either a corrupt official or a disbelieving person.
        1. Angry reader
          Angry reader 8 January 2014 17: 23
          +1
          blessed are believers_)))
    7. valokordin
      valokordin 7 January 2014 10: 26
      +5
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Well written. Offset to the author. But corruption is today the main enemy in the country.

      Corruption is not an enemy. This is a consequence of that criminal-bourgeois system. It is pointless to fight it, since in this case it is the main tool for the existence of this system. Without it, the system will collapse, and the power, which is the basis of this system, will not be able to allow the destruction of corruption. The way out was found in 1917. I have the honor.
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    9. Kushadasov
      Kushadasov 7 January 2014 19: 59
      +2
      But corruption is the main enemy in the country today.


      No, not the main one. The main enemy is the liberals, such professional traitors and the fifth column, who do not allow to establish such an order that would allow you to burn the corruption you mentioned with a knee iron.
      1. 120352
        120352 8 January 2014 13: 06
        +1
        It is somehow convenient to operate with virtual concepts: liberals, the fifth column, burn with hot iron. Everything is much simpler. I wrote above. Well, you can add executions for particularly prominent, who stole more than a hundred rubles. And then Serdyukov will have to be shot from a machine gun, although this is a little expensive. It’s easier to load it into the gun and shoot.
    10. StolzSS
      StolzSS 7 January 2014 21: 25
      -1
      She has always been the main enemy. Only Singapore managed to cope with it, and that was only because there society was densely packed on the island. How can we fix all this in my mind? I won’t put it in executions. You won’t get simple. Here you need to move your brains cool and seriously work ...
    11. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 9 January 2014 10: 33
      0
      She has always been in our country, just now she has reached its peak and are struggling with it only in words.
  2. Prapor-527
    Prapor-527 6 January 2014 15: 28
    +11
    Thanks to rising oil prices, Russia managed to pay off debts and begin to raise the economy. Moreover, Russia pays the debts of all the republics of the USSR alone ...
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 6 January 2014 15: 52
      +16
      Quote: Prapor-527
      Moreover, Russia pays the debts of all the republics of the USSR alone ...

      And Ukraine does not think so! I tried to understand the position of Ukraine in this matter, and did not understand fool Maybe someone can simply explain: why is Ukraine still claiming ownership of the USSR abroad, which, in connection with the refusal of Soviet debts, is not supposed to them, sort of ...?
      1. Prapor-527
        Prapor-527 6 January 2014 16: 17
        +6
        Not laid not legally, not relying on common sense ... Conscience must be the same.
        1. 120352
          120352 8 January 2014 13: 14
          0
          But they are not accepted to think about conscience and common sense. They want in the EU. Attach yourself to the crowd of other beggars at the end of the line.
      2. Andrey57
        Andrey57 6 January 2014 16: 25
        +8
        So after all, for free, vinegar is sweet, and there are sweet pieces! And to pay the general debts - a lot of bad!
      3. stroporez
        stroporez 8 January 2014 09: 49
        +2
        Quote: retired
        And Ukraine does not think so! I tried to understand the position of Ukraine in this matter, but I didn’t understand. Maybe someone can explain for a simple reason: why Ukraine still claims the USSR’s property abroad, which, in connection with the refusal of USSR debts, is not supposed to, like ... ?
        ------ Ukraine's position is extremely simple .--- pick up all the "nishtyaks" and get rid of the "strains" as much as possible .......
      4. 120352
        120352 8 January 2014 13: 11
        +3
        The Constitution of Ukraine (the outskirts are not capitalized, even if it is the letter "y"), it seems, consists of the following articles:
        1) All evil is from Moscow.
        2) My hut is on the edge.
        3) Tilki to yourself.
        4) Everyone owes us.
        1. Prapor-527
          Prapor-527 8 January 2014 15: 35
          0
          No comments!!! good
        2. Cristall
          Cristall 8 January 2014 19: 32
          +1
          umm .. I could also write in revenge a lot of good things about your affairs - but this is a conversation about a neighbor’s dead cow. Therefore, I will not stoop to such a level.
          You are lying. The Constitution of Ukraine (spelled UKRAINE) begins standard for many constitutions. Your joke is inappropriate.
          The mockery went from mentioning the debts of the USSR and the claim by Ukraine of the unit. Actually, the Russian Federation withdrew all the assets and debts of 3 countries of the USSR + embassies and membership in the UN (in general, all positives) in exchange for the Russian Federation took all debts. Ukraine insisted on parts and debts and nishtyakov. But constantly all the Russians insist that the Russian Federation took all the negatives and debts, modestly silent about the assets. Kars is not on you
          Threat and why I broke up, you still can not change, a spoonful of negativity is always ready to throw ... why? Have you read the article though? It never occurred to me to pour mud on your constitution and you as a country ... the formation of the USSR does not allow me.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 8 January 2014 19: 43
            0
            Quote: Cristall
            The mockery went from mentioning the debts of the USSR and the claim by Ukraine of the unit. Actually, the Russian Federation withdrew all the assets and debts of 3 countries of the USSR + embassies and UN membership (in general, all positives)

            Membership in the UN is nishtyak controversial. And I wouldn’t talk about assets at all, there are a lot of rumors about them, but no one has seen in my eyes. But debt is a real thing.
            Quote: Cristall
            Kars is not on you

            He's tearing up a vest on another topic. hi
    2. Civil
      Civil 6 January 2014 16: 34
      +13
      Hope not forgotten yet ?!
      1. neri73-r
        neri73-r 6 January 2014 18: 50
        +7
        this is a small coat of arms, although they have not forgotten, and the main coat of arms of another, with the inscription of the USSR, we also remember it very well!
        1. 120352
          120352 8 January 2014 13: 16
          0
          This is not a small coat of arms, but the coat of arms of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic.
    3. GSH-18
      GSH-18 6 January 2014 18: 31
      +5
      Quote from the article: "The Red Army. The most powerful, combat-ready and most well-trained army turned out to be unnecessary. There was talk about a mercenary, contract or professional army. How was this army imperfect? Yes, nothing. Yes, reforms were needed, but a contract army was not needed. "
      Here, the author takes wishful thinking.
      ================================================== ==========
      Quote from the article: "What about Russia? It got the most. The rapid decline and crisis of the economy, the destruction of the army, the demographic crisis brought the country to its knees. It should be noted that the reforms did not lead to good, at least in the short term, but in long-term - you should still see ... "
      It is not clear what country the author is talking about.
      One gets the impression that the author lived "over the hill" in the 90s and moved to the Russian Federation a couple of years ago - everything is not familiar to him, not right and bad! request
      1. ty60
        ty60 8 January 2014 01: 50
        0
        When in one six-gun battery the 2AC3 ACACIA self-propelled guns ONE gun commander can calibrate the sights, what quality are we talking about? For example, in England it’s NOT DIFFICULT not to serve. And we still have mostly from deaf villages who have nowhere to hide. The number of educated with the right level so far .... Not counting the officers. The rural conscripts sometimes just need to be accustomed to normal life, not to mention the fact that military enlistment offices still do not filter recruits by the level of at least ABILITY to study.
  3. makarov
    makarov 6 January 2014 15: 46
    +12
    "And it just so happened that this horse turned out to be traitors among their own people: people who for money betrayed their own country, their own people. People who doomed millions of people to starvation, and, oddly enough, some of these people still continue their activities ... "

    So even now they reign with impunity and enrich themselves, not fearing either power (since they are at the helm) or God - because instead of the soul there are only couples, this is Red Scoundrel, Serdyukovich, and others ..
  4. Tra-ta-ta
    Tra-ta-ta 6 January 2014 15: 52
    +13
    industry, which in terms of production volume exceeded all industries of the world; a fleet that has no equal; (???)
    I consider myself a Soviet people and do not think that we lived poorly ... But the article is "crude" and not literate. And in some places - bullshit (see the extract from the beginning).
    1. fomich1977
      fomich1977 7 January 2014 13: 39
      +10
      I agree - they lived well then. Of course, there were their own oddities at that time, but education, housing, work were available ... there was stability, confidence in the future
  5. onegin61
    onegin61 6 January 2014 15: 54
    .
    I would like to get up and march from "happiness", have you forgotten how and what it was built and given, remember the gulags, the disenfranchised peasantry, and then collective farmers without passports, "dispossession", "triplets" of courts, mass executions of "enemies of the people", "Belomorkanal ; and others, and after the BAM (90% of the prisoners were building), the war, where at the beginning one rifle for five, persecution for dissent, when they said one thing, thought another, and did the third, as "it is necessary", that chips fly, so chips are the people.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 6 January 2014 16: 31
      +3
      About a billion people shot personally by Stalin forgot ...
    2. onegin61
      onegin61 6 January 2014 17: 56
      -8
      The guys were vain in vain, lived under Stalin, and parents told a lot
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 6 January 2014 18: 23
        +6
        Quote: Onegin61
        The guys were vain in vain; still lived under Stalin

        Judging by your nickname, you are about 60, so under Stalin you are unlikely to have lived. And to judge someone with someone’s words is not serious.
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      3. xabaroff.ven
        xabaroff.ven 6 January 2014 21: 25
        .
        The whole article is a Komsomol party chatter as at a meeting. The author does not seem to have lived at the time that he is discussing. From the memories of only one eternal, comprehensive deficit, enthusiasm would be reduced.
      4. yur
        yur 6 January 2014 22: 17
        +13
        But my parents told me something completely different - about how a great country was built by all the people. Well, regarding your grief that BAM 90% built a prisoner. No, they had to lie down now with a TV and a full fridge in their bunk? It's all so simple: committed a crime, atone.
    3. varov14
      varov14 6 January 2014 19: 13
      +3
      Chips are chips, now you can also splinter a lot of splinter.
    4. melkar
      melkar 7 January 2014 00: 21
      +11
      Remember the gulags, the disenfranchised peasantry, and then collective farmers without passports, "dispossession", "triplets" of courts, mass executions of "enemies of the people", "Belomorkanal; and others. And after that the BAM (90% of the prisoners were building), the war one rifle for five, persecution for dissent, when they said one thing, thought another, and did the third, as "it is necessary" that the chips fly,

      The guys were vain in vain, lived under Stalin, and parents told a lot


      The people are simply surprised and distrustful of how you all of these dangers listed by you so deftly slipped through and met 2014. Nothing takes you, you think all about the people
      1. anarh
        anarh 7 January 2014 08: 14
        +4
        Quote: melkar
        BAM (90% of the convicts built)

        I remember this was a joke.
        Foreign journalist:
        - And who are the convicts?
        - Trans-Baikal Komsomol members. wink
      2. ty60
        ty60 8 January 2014 01: 58
        -4
        Did anyone sit at your place? Article 58? My grandfather is from Volga Germans. Lesopoval. Family in eastern Kazakhstan. Tell me all about the charms. Did your dad not work in the district committee?
    5. melkar
      melkar 7 January 2014 00: 21
      +4
      Remember the gulags, the disenfranchised peasantry, and then collective farmers without passports, "dispossession", "triplets" of courts, mass executions of "enemies of the people", "Belomorkanal; and others. And after that the BAM (90% of the prisoners were building), the war one rifle for five, persecution for dissent, when they said one thing, thought another, and did the third, as "it is necessary" that the chips fly,

      The guys were vain in vain, lived under Stalin, and parents told a lot


      The people are simply surprised and distrustful of how you all of these dangers listed by you so deftly slipped through and met 2014. Nothing takes you, you think all about the people
    6. Current 72
      Current 72 7 January 2014 22: 28
      0
      Are you smoking hashish ??? What are you talking about nonsense !!! That's because of such, to all believers, our GREAT UNION collapsed !!!
    7. 120352
      120352 8 January 2014 13: 35
      +1
      GULAGs (here it is necessary to add separately the Belomorkanal, "Troikas", the executions of "enemies of the people" ended with the execution of Beria, in 1953. The peasantry acquired all rights a couple of years later, when collective farmers, like all citizens, began to issue passports.
      As for the construction of the Baikal-Amur Mainline, so where does Z / K go? In a sanatorium or holiday home to send? Or courses to enhance gang skills and disseminate experience? But, in fairness, I must say that for the construction of the railway it is necessary to possess not thieves, but building qualifications. So Z / K there, of course, were there, but not 90%, but somewhere around 10. And so - construction battalions, teams of specialists, machine operators. I don’t know, Onegin, how much older you are to me, I’m only 70, but about one rifle for five, you obviously went too far. We had plenty of weapons, weapons.
    8. FREGATENKAPITAN
      FREGATENKAPITAN 8 January 2014 13: 51
      +1
      Well, let's do the same about mattresses — the Great Depression — millions of starved and devastated, mass deportation of the Japanese at the outbreak of war (read in the GULAGs), massive hysteria of the witch hunt (thousands and thousands of people in prison for only suspecting sympathy for communism),. ....... about the international crimes of the US imperialists it does not even make sense to write (Chile, Panama, Grenada, Iraq, and other, other) ................... ..Yes they were given everything a lot easier -all territories and capitals at the expense of others, YES! Our fate is different _ Through hardship to the stars ! there will be rewarded!
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  6. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 6 January 2014 16: 01
    +35
    The damned geeks "perestroika superintendents" B. Yeltsins, E. Gaidars, Chubais and other creatures brutally killed my parents and millions of Soviet people and continue to feed on, parasitize on the Russian people.
    Pensioners, elderly people, who defeated the fascists by peaceful and military labor during the war, were humiliated by the "reformers" of the 90s, brought to poverty, and left without a livelihood.
    Prices rose 100 times faster than pensions that were not enough even for bread.
    And even more terrible was the humiliation of poverty, the emergence of wealthy thieves and scammers who stole the property of the people of the USSR.
    All these stupid creatures, dogs, prokhorovs, potanins, deripaska, abramovich and other nonhumans who are not capable of honest labor and suddenly fly to earn money, suddenly became millionaires and billionaires.
    Damned together with all their vile descendants, let them all suffer cruel death, like the descendants of the Romanovs.
    1. Current 72
      Current 72 7 January 2014 22: 35
      +1
      I fully support you Corsair 5912 !!! Let these bastards choke on what they took from us.
    2. ty60
      ty60 8 January 2014 02: 01
      +2
      The answer is simple — it was yesterday’s Komsomol members.
  7. demotivator
    demotivator 6 January 2014 16: 24
    +22
    What can be noted about the achievements of the Soviet people? Very much: the most powerful army the world has ever seen; industry, which in terms of production exceeded all industries in the world; a fleet that knows no equal; the most powerful aircraft capable of wiping out a whole state in a matter of hours; the space industry, which had no equal; internationalism - the friendship of nations that helped create this great state; an educational system that every year gave millions of graduates ... And this is only a small part of its greatness.

    I well remember how my parents repeatedly repeated in conversations with each other, and also to us children: WE NEVER WERE SO GOOD LIKE THIS YEARS, BEFORE THE WAR. And then, a difficult war began and the restoration of the country after it. But this was done as soon as possible. USSR already in 1947 canceled grocery cards, and Great Britain refused them only in the 50s. About what enormous development potential the Soviet Union possessed, much has been written and said without me. The statistical compilation, which is annually prepared by the United States CIA, states that the level of industrial production in the Soviet Union per capita was almost double the world level! But from the point of view of dynamics, this means that over 70 years of Soviet power, industry in the USSR developed 6 times faster than in the rest of the world, and the main growth was achieved under Stalin! This is where three exclamation points must be put. But as we are today, everyone can find the answer for himself. Everything is visible even with the naked eye.
    1. varov14
      varov14 6 January 2014 19: 05
      +1
      I finished reading "Harbin" today - Russia today is a big "Harbin" 20-45g, it seems that there is everything, but the feeling is that the wind drives us like autumn leaves.
  8. Zomanus
    Zomanus 6 January 2014 16: 27
    +9
    Another crying nothing. That's really, everyone remembers some buns that lie on the surface. And for myself, I consider the breaking of ties in society, atomization, to be the main loss. Indeed, now, with the same incomes, a common base that was at the end of the Union, it will be impossible to recreate it. Because they will pull it apart piece by piece. Someone will get a big piece. someone smaller. Remember vouchers? "Tear yourself a piece of the country." Dofig you tore yourself? Were you able to manage it competently? So while the Russians do not recognize themselves as a strong nation, there will be no union. The Union is the Russians and the peoples who joined them. Someone joined because of weakness, someone was forced to join. But the Russians were the basis. And now the Russians are bent over everything to prevent the revival of the union. A simple annexation of lands will not give us anything now, except for smut with the population and rulers of these lands. In addition, these lands will leave us just as quickly in the event of a war (do you still take the CSTO seriously?). So there is no point in crying about the Union now, because we cannot restore it in any way.
    1. anarh
      anarh 7 January 2014 08: 20
      +8
      Quote: Zomanus
      A simple accession of lands now will not give us anything, except for the smut with the population and rulers of these lands.

      As time passes, they themselves will be asked back.
      And those will be asked who was before 17.
      There are strict selection and harsh conditions.
      The laughter is that it will be so. wink
      1. Prapor-527
        Prapor-527 7 January 2014 09: 49
        +3
        I agree to all 100%! But I think those who were not with us before will be requested ... hi
      2. valokordin
        valokordin 7 January 2014 10: 32
        +4
        Quote: anarh
        Quote: Zomanus
        A simple accession of lands now will not give us anything, except for the smut with the population and rulers of these lands.

        As time passes, they themselves will be asked back.
        And those will be asked who was before 17.
        There are strict selection and harsh conditions.
        The laughter is that it will be so. wink

        No one will ask while the bourgeois and the bad boy rule us
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  9. treskoed
    treskoed 6 January 2014 16: 30
    +3
    We can hope that this year the leaders of the countries will make the right decisions that will benefit the states (although it is probably very naive to believe in this).

    The right decision is the triumph of the Law in the country! Violated - answer!
    1. anarh
      anarh 7 January 2014 08: 22
      +6
      Quote: treskoed
      Violated - answer!

      I do not agree.
      Licensed programs are too expensive. wink
  10. demotivator
    demotivator 6 January 2014 16: 38
    +14
    Joseph Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili (Stalin), the man who made the dying country the second economy of the world, returned to its former greatness, now has become the greatest tyrant and despot. International psychology among the consciousness of the people was destroyed, although not completely, but internationalism could already become a pillar for the preservation of the USSR.

    Recently in Russia, interest in Stalin has not only grown tremendously, but has also sharply changed its sign. This can be considered a paradox, but after half a century of monopolistic slander of this person by many historians and journalists today, more than 70% of Russians would like to see Stalin as the leader of their country. The slanderers explain such a mentality by the primordial slave qualities of the Russian people, but after all they are the same people who in 1991 trampled into the mud what Stalin lived for and for which he gave his life - the USSR. And then, in 1991, this people was considered "freedom-loving" and COMPLETELY REMAINED TREASURES. And now again a slave? This, of course, is not the point. It was just that the people had seen enough of all these Yeltsin-Putin-Medvedevs and Kravchuk with Kuchma, appreciated their surroundings and the “elite,” and, knowing about Stalin only that they were shot under such people, did not yearn for Stalin, but for HONEST LEADERS OF THE COUNTRY.
    Stalin actually headed the USSR for twenty years, and from 1941 to 1953 he was legally the head of the Soviet Union, therefore, only a simple description of what he did requires volumes, and dozens of volumes are needed to explain the essence of his affairs. Now there are very few people who can read so much literature, and the interests are already different. But to know nothing about Stalin at all, or to draw conclusions based on slander, means BE BEING OBJECTIVE BY YOUR OWN DESIRE.
    Today, for us, for the former Soviet people, the characteristic given once by Taras Shevchenko is “the glorious great-grandfathers of the great great-grandchildren are filthy”.
    1. GREAT RUSSIA
      6 January 2014 16: 53
      +6
      Such an era, I wrote about Stalin like that because it’s true. Not one of the leaders of the USSR made such a great contribution as he did. Of course, Lenin is worthy of respect, and I have no doubt about this, because he is the founder of communism in Russia.
  11. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 6 January 2014 16: 55
    +15
    Quote: Then the so-called market economy, and again - what is the result?

    The "market makers" of the USSR branded the Soviet "command" economy with their last words. For more than twenty years, they have been putting their ideas into practice. So what? All these years they destroyed the economic power of the former USSR, created by generations of Soviet people. West claps. Who will finish this bacchanal?
    1. sledgehammer102
      sledgehammer102 6 January 2014 19: 09
      +2
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      All these years they destroyed the economic power of the former USSR, created by generations of Soviet people. West claps. Who will finish this bacchanal?


      Do not you think that your message is already outdated?
      Vacanalia has long ended. The factories are busy, people are working, there is practically no unemployment. Exports of non-primary products are growing. New enterprises are opening, kindergartens are being built. We had "Time of Troubles" from 1991 to 2003-5 ... now everything is back on track. Even if not as fast as we would like, but miracles do not happen.

      There is not a single country in the world that, for 13 years, has emerged from the steep peak of an advanced economic power with a high standard of living.
      Some gave loans in exchange for the loss of independence, others used the labor of prisoners, others unleashed wars in third countries and sold weapons to one and gave loans to others, someone (China) scored on social programs and does not pay pensions and does not provide free education in principle. Everyone has their own way.

      We earn our money, with our labor, our resources and capabilities, without borrowing from future generations, as is done in the EU or in the USA, look at government debt.
      1. Ivanovich47
        Ivanovich47 7 January 2014 20: 08
        -1
        If you live in Moscow or Petersburg, you are partially right. The closest analysis of industrial production in the USSR and today in Russia suggests that. what: (quote) The collapse of the USSR and the “reforms” resulted in the destruction of the production of Group A products (means of production), without which it is impossible, without attracting foreigners, to ramp up the production of any other products in significant volumes (construction of new enterprises, re-equipment of existing ones, etc.) . Livestock destroyed.
        The extraction of raw materials in the Russian Federation remained approximately at the Soviet level, and the production of all industrial products decreased significantly. It follows that in Soviet times, the extracted raw materials were processed by our industry, and now, because industry is destroyed and there is no one to consume it in the same amount; it is being sold abroad.
        1. ty60
          ty60 8 January 2014 02: 11
          0
          You compare the WHOLE USSR and RUSSIA. Different areas, different capacities. First cut off Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan. Then we will compare.
    2. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 6 January 2014 22: 51
      +15
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      Who will finish this bacchanal?
      1. anarh
        anarh 7 January 2014 08: 24
        +9
        Each Slav, a citizen of Russia under a personal receipt.
        1. stroporez
          stroporez 8 January 2014 09: 58
          +3
          that's right ........ instead of a "voucher" laughing
  12. GREAT RUSSIA
    6 January 2014 16: 55
    +1
    Comrades, no one knows why my nickname is Europe? What for? belay belay
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 6 January 2014 16: 58
      0
      The browser is buggy (they also made me a Norwegian), demolished the old browser, cleaned the registry, installed a new browser, it seems it became again Russian. (Russian) smile
      1. GREAT RUSSIA
        6 January 2014 17: 02
        0
        Quote: The same Lech
        The browser is buggy (they also made me a Norwegian), demolished the old browser, cleaned the registry, installed a new browser, it seems it became again Russian. (Russian) smile

        Well, for me with my connection, it’s crazy. I’ll have to put up with it for a while until I find a way out. recourse
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 6 January 2014 18: 41
      +2
      Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
      Comrades, no one knows why my nickname is Europe? What for?

      Go to your personal account. click: edit the profile, opposite "born in the USSR", check the box, the flag of the USSR should be installed.
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    4. Power
      Power 7 January 2014 14: 21
      0
      Maybe you're a liberal at heart?
  13. Sergey47
    Sergey47 6 January 2014 17: 13
    +23
    Stalin in shabby boots was buried. All these Solzhenitsensky snot about the Gulag is another slander on our history. Just slandered Ivan the Terrible. Liberal horror stories. These people lived only in the name of their homeland. They strangled the fifth column and for this they were slandered after death by those whom they did not allow the country to plunder as they are now. Just imagine what would happen to Serdyukov under Stalin. Right. But could such a ghoul crawl somewhere into power structures? It’s also right. Among the top leaders of the USSR, children died in the war. And at the current pants in Oxford wipe. For them, Russia is a barbaric country and they will do everything to harm it as much as possible.
    1. anarh
      anarh 7 January 2014 08: 29
      +3
      Quote: Sergey47
      But could such a ghoul crawl somewhere into power structures?

      There were ghouls there.
      One Mehlis is worth it.
      1. Orang
        Orang 7 January 2014 12: 48
        +2
        Quote: anarh
        One Mehlis is worth it.

        Navrano about the Mehlis with three boxes. Blowed the warriors of Crimea, insulting, from Stalin, again, on the head. Well this is Mehlis to blame! If not for him ... we would have ...
        After 1953 invented these tales be healthy, just have time to listen.
        1. creak
          creak 7 January 2014 13: 20
          +2
          Is not it so? Mehlis was a representative of the Supreme High Command Headquarters in Crimea with the appropriate authority, and I.V. Stalin in response to Mehlis’s complaints about the front command reasonably replied that Mehlis was not an outside observer and his position was rotten through and through ... It was not by chance that Mehlis was demoted ranks in two steps ... These documents have been published many times and there is no need to make an innocent victim out of him ...
        2. creak
          creak 7 January 2014 13: 20
          0
          Is not it so? Mehlis was a representative of the Supreme High Command Headquarters in Crimea with the appropriate authority, and I.V. Stalin in response to Mehlis’s complaints about the front command reasonably replied that Mehlis was not an outside observer and his position was rotten through and through ... It was not by chance that Mehlis was demoted ranks in two steps ... These documents have been published many times and there is no need to make an innocent victim out of him ...
      2. ty60
        ty60 8 January 2014 02: 18
        0
        Not only. One Nikolai Ivanovich left such a memory for himself. And Andrei Yaguarevich Vyshinsky. And read Lenin. Many interesting things wrote
  14. Boris63
    Boris63 6 January 2014 18: 27
    +2
    The USSR "collapsed" not at all because of the West (let them not amuse themselves) and not for political (national) reasons. The collapse was purely economic, the products that the industry produced (with some exceptions: machine tools, "war", chemistry, metal) was not competitive and was consumed only in the domestic market and the republican leaders thought: we alone will live better, selling our products to the West ourselves. But it turned out that the West did not need their products. Agricultural products - the obtained unprecedented harvests "rotted" by at least a third (without proper storage), yes + postscripts. The planned economy has advantages, but our version had many disadvantages (for example, the Skorokhod factory for decades produced the same boots and shoes, which no one bought, but produced, received money). It was necessary to change the approach in the planned economy - to remove the primacy of the government and work on economic expediency (competitiveness). Gorbachev, it seems, did not want to do this - so it came out ..opa. It could have been different.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 6 January 2014 18: 50
      +8
      Quote: Boris63
      For example, the Skorokhod factory for decades produced the same boots and shoes, which no one bought, but produced, received money).

      But these Skorokhodovsky boots were worn for several years. And now the child, for one season, needs two or three pairs. Also, adult shoes, but not fashionable, but solid, go to work, that's it.
      1. Current 72
        Current 72 7 January 2014 22: 57
        +2
        IN-IN! I still remember my shoes made of pigskin, I remember they used to play football with stones and cans, bought them two sizes larger, and wore them until the leg grew older, and so that the leg would not dangle, they wore knitted, homemade socks, or even A couple. And I also remember the HB suit, the so-called "Devil's Skin", you climb on the fence, catch on, the fence will break, and the pants are intact. And what is not fashionable, we did not pay attention to it.
      2. ty60
        ty60 8 January 2014 02: 21
        +2
        Fathers shoe and in the subject and the quality is normal.
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    3. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 6 January 2014 22: 59
      +2
      Quote: Boris63
      The collapse was purely economic

      The reasons are economic (some who wanted to own what they had to manage and what they had to protect), economic and political mechanisms (ensuring discrediting and dismantling), but yes - not from the West (who in this case acted as a mercenary for a certain gesheft) .
    4. Manul
      Manul 8 January 2014 23: 40
      0
      What are you about??? They purposefully shook the country, blabbed it up, made an artificial shortage ... Sausages, cereals and meat were transported to the forests in order to prevent the counters and maintain popular anger. I myself wondered what Nevzorov was showing on the screen until I personally saw these piles of meat in the forest. Only traitors and criminals in power organized all this. And trillions of dollars spent on the Cold War by America and found application in bribing the tops and creating Russian inferiority .. Jeans, we wanted chewing gum ... For democracy barricades were built in Moscow .. I want at least one person to face and ask - against whom then were you building barricades? Commune of the damned? I remember those people who blasphemed their country. There is nothing to do with party affiliation. You have to be people.
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 9 January 2014 13: 41
        0
        Quote: Manul
        What are you about???
        About it: "The country was deliberately shattered, blabbed, made an artificial deficit ..."

        And trillions of dollars launched into the Cold War by America found their application in bribing the tops
        To take this, if I may say - "version" - seriously, you need to make 2 hefty assumptions:
        The first is that blind downsides worked in the KGB (and therefore no one revealed the facts of recruitment).
        2nd - the tops were downs of the senile and weak-willed (that is, they themselves could not want to appropriate the national treasure and therefore they had to be bribed - moreover, successfully and for smaller nishtyaks than if they themselves wanted to bring down the Union).
        But the question arises - why on earth should such stupidity be allowed?
  15. Tra-ta-ta
    Tra-ta-ta 6 January 2014 18: 31
    +3
    Quote: Greenwood
    About a billion people shot personally by Stalin forgot ...


    is everything normal in your head with numbers? !!
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 6 January 2014 18: 57
      +2
      Quote: Tra-ta-ta
      They forgot about the billion executed by Stalin personally ... is everything normal in your head with numbers? !!

      You do not understand, it was he who sapronized it. smile
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  16. Tra-ta-ta
    Tra-ta-ta 6 January 2014 18: 37
    +1
    "The right decision is the triumph of the Law in the country! If you break it, answer it!"

    I agree with you, but with an "eye" to who, under EBN, wrote the Constitution and Laws under the dictation of the CIA ...
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 6 January 2014 23: 01
      +1
      Quote: Tra-ta-ta
      but with an "eye" to who, under EBN, wrote the Constitution and Laws under the dictation of the CIA ...

      Facts about the dictation of the CIA in the studio.
  17. Arhj
    Arhj 6 January 2014 18: 38
    +4
    Everything is written correctly. But the article does not contain anything new, nor does it contain analysis, and therefore rather resembles a speech at a political meeting. I would like less emotions and more facts.
    1. frejaodina
      frejaodina 7 January 2014 00: 41
      +3
      The person was boiling, I wanted to speak out, why not.
  18. ochakow703
    ochakow703 6 January 2014 18: 45
    +9
    Quote: Onegin61
    The guys were vain in vain, lived under Stalin, and parents told a lot

    All this is no reason to talk about the whole country. Now everything is certainly better! Have you been wearing pink glasses for a long time? So take it off. Two years after the war, the worst war, the cards were canceled, and four years later the YaB was tested, but now the country is artificially kept afloat with the help of oil money so that the heap can live longer, and the rest of the people are not even a slave, but so bomzh. You can of course talk about particulars, someone was shot (and most likely there was a reason), etc. Only now, without trial or investigation, whole nations are being destroyed under the slogan of a bright democracy. Yes, nothing of course, now they don’t touch you, but who needs you at all ... Stalin had to do everything and everyone, since everyone had to plow so that Victory came, and you and those like you were born ( although, the question of the need for such thoughts is controversial)
    1. Orang
      Orang 7 January 2014 12: 59
      +4
      Quote: ochakow703
      and so bomzh

      Right. Not for nothing that Medved pushed that the population needed to be mobile. We will wander around the country like gypsies.
  19. Alf
    Alf 6 January 2014 18: 46
    +16
    Quote: Onegin61
    I would like to get up and march from "happiness", have you forgotten how and what it was built and given, remember the gulags, the disenfranchised peasantry, and then collective farmers without passports, "dispossession", "triplets" of courts, mass executions of "enemies of the people", "Belomorkanal ; and others, and after the BAM (90% of the prisoners were building), the war, where at the beginning one rifle for five, persecution for dissent, when they said one thing, thought another, and did the third, as "it is necessary", that chips fly, so chips are the people.

    During the reign of Stalin, 642.000 death sentences were passed, 2,5 million were sentenced, this is about "mass executions". Have you ever wondered how many of them were really fair sentences?
    As for "one rifle for five", you need to listen to less khrushchev, and take the number of small arms for June 22 and count it yourself, 1,6 million against 400.000 GEWEHR 43. Even German generals at the very beginning of the war were unpleasantly surprised by the number of self-loading in the first echelon ...
    Regarding the "dispossession", Stalin had no direct relation to this, because. he gained real power by the mid-30s. And what did he do with these dekulakis. And it was Stalin with the "bloody executioner" Beria who became the ideologists of the liberation of the peasantry after the war, and Khrushch took credit for this. And it was Stalin who, on Khrushch's demand to increase the number of executions, imposed a resolution - "Calm down, d ... ak."
    Regarding the persecution of dissent, this is a normal reaction of ANY state to an attempt to change it.
    Regarding "slave labor in the Gulag" - so look at how Hitler built his famous autobahns, and Roosevelt organized labor camps and what were the conditions for survival. Remember, finally, the famous "16 tons".
    You need to think with your own head, and not re-sing other people's songs. And it's time to start thinking who the "composer" of these songs is.
  20. neri73-r
    neri73-r 6 January 2014 18: 46
    +2
    Thanks to rising oil prices, Russia managed to pay off debts and begin to raise the economy.

    why this nonsense is repeated and repeated, how is it tenacious !!! How do they want to impose on us the idea that this is not our (the country as a whole and the people, president, in particular) merit, but only oil prices!
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 6 January 2014 23: 04
      -3
      Quote: neri73-r
      why is this nonsense repeated and repeated

      Because this is not nonsense.
  21. luaz2004
    luaz2004 6 January 2014 18: 54
    +1
    I agree ! Well written.
  22. shtanko.49
    shtanko.49 6 January 2014 19: 30
    +1
    Quote: sledgehammer102
    Quote: Scandinavian
    Well written. Offset to the author. But corruption is today the main enemy in the country.

    Corruption begins with the usual household doom or bribes to the traffic copbut ends with growth of public funds officials who grew up in such a society that promises very serious problems to people doing this on Judgment Day.

    Now for the article.
    The author's reasoning is very trivial, I would say in a cliche, although he does not go too far either towards people "who are doing well" and "all-footed people."

    There are a couple of comments.
    Quote: Scandinavian
    Thanks to rising oil prices, Russia managed to pay off debts and begin to raise the economy.

    If we compare the growth of GDP and the rise in oil prices in the Russian Federation and in other oil countries, we get the following picture.


    This suggests that the Russian economy, although it depends on oil, has developed far not only due to an increase in its price.

    But even this helped solve all the problems: corruption, a decline in economic growth, and poverty.

    Corruption - Yes! True, in our country it is not as high as, for example, in all the praised West or China, which should not justify embezzlers, but it is an indicator that combating self-interest (and this is the root of this problem) only by legal methods (even executions) is not quite effective, since self-interest - not a violation of the law, and breaking moral barriers is a deal with conscience.
    Economic decline - Yes! Here we must "thank" the EU and the United States with their populists and life on credit.
    Poverty - in my opinion in the Russian Federation this indicator is one of the lowest in Europe, as well as unemployment? But there is a problem, and it must be solved.

    It would be necessary to start the schedule at least 1990, it would be clearer how much we grew and where we fell.
  23. Unsam
    Unsam 6 January 2014 20: 16
    +2
    Good article, thanks.
  24. not good
    not good 6 January 2014 20: 17
    +8
    The USSR is already history! Gorbachev had a chance to become, if not Messiah, then at least Stalin, and he turned out to be Judas. As for those who are now at the helm, you still don’t see Stalin there, but to really save the country just be Brezhnev not enough already!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 6 January 2014 21: 17
      +5
      Quote: Negoro
      to really save the country, simply being Brezhnev is no longer enough!

      Right! And above all, the people need a goal! Rather, GREAT GOAL! This is the only way to achieve former greatness and even surpass it!
      Each person is somewhat reminiscent of an arrow. He also needs a goal in the name of which he could use his skills and talents, for which he would be ready to spend time, effort and other resources, a goal in striving for which he would move forward. Without a goal, life with all its benefits fades, and a person turns into a virtuoso archer who has nothing to shoot at. The goal can be eternal or momentary, the only one or one of a thousand, but the main thing is that it be. We are running, now crawling, along our winding paths, in order to get rich, learn how to cook cabbage soup, save the world, or win a game of cards.
      But what to do when the goal is so far away that you cannot mentally cover the entire length of the route? What to do, for example, if you have to destroy a "demon", but you have no idea how this can be done? The answer is extremely simple. You just need to focus on intermediate goals, less global, but more understandable. For those goals that can be achieved at this stage. Then, overcoming one small obstacle after another, and you look, you will get step by step to the main thing. And you can draw a thick red line on top of the fuzzy dotted line of the proposed route.
  25. Sadikoff
    Sadikoff 6 January 2014 21: 36
    +3
    History has verified that it would be reborn. The new country, the CU, the new conditions of the treaties with the former allied and new ones make it possible to expand, carry their own principles of morality, ethics. There are not many saints, therefore there are tests with water and pipes with fire. It’s easy to be ideal when everything is scheduled and everyone lives by the rules, but there is no place for a feat, catharsis, self-testing, who I am, trembling or ... Victory in yourself, defeat indifference around you, laziness, bribery, etc., substitute what is needed.
  26. pvv113
    pvv113 6 January 2014 23: 06
    +18
    GOOD ARTICLE. SORRY ONLY THAT NONE OF THE TRAITORS OF THE GREAT COUNTRY HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY RESPONSIBILITY. AND THESE JUDE JUST ENOUGH CONSCIENCE TO DO POLICY, PUBLIC ACTIVITY, SPEAK ON PEOPLE. THESE CREATURES ARE FACING AN UNACCEPTABLE ATTITUDE TO THEM, AND THEY CONTINUE TO REMIND ABOUT THEIR EXISTENCE, AS VARIOUS PARASITES, TYPE OF RATS AND COCKROACHES.
  27. not main
    not main 6 January 2014 23: 19
    -8
    This is a provocative article! In the USSR, all decisions were made by the Central Committee of the CPSU! And it is not correct to blame the General Secretary for everything! Although I myself do not accept Gorbachev, and even more so Shivardnadze! But they are just "exchange pieces"!
    1. not good
      not good 7 January 2014 23: 19
      +1
      Under Gorbachev, the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the CPSU simply abandoned its responsibilities for governing the country, they say we’ll succeed with the talker on horseback, he’s not the author. They washed our hands, TRAITORS, and we all turned out to be bargaining chips!
  28. GREAT RUSSIA
    6 January 2014 23: 22
    +3
    For those who say that I lived at that time and that I did not delve into the essence. Dear forum users, note. I’m 15 years old and I was born in 1998, which means that I physically could not see all these events. So I write what I know. Do not be surprised if you find my views too superficial.
    Respectfully to all of you.
    By the way, I ask you: do not be surprised at the flag on my nickname, this browser is buggy.
  29. DPN
    DPN 6 January 2014 23: 47
    +8
    A very beautiful coat of arms of MY MOTHERLAND, cannot be compared with the two chapters. The article is nothing, just memories. The younger generation didn’t already have those benefits, and almost all of us were hooked on money, it’s not profitable to start children with them. You won’t take a mortgage. It is necessary to raise the birth rate in the country and educate in their own country and not sell their children over a hill. And no one will remember the country that 1 secretary of the CPSU would have accounts over the hill. And now, in order to equip RUSSIA and build factories and restore agriculture, they are buying castles in the West for the common natural wealth.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 6 January 2014 23: 58
      +13
      Quote: DPN
      Very beautiful coat of arms of MY MOTHERLAND, cannot be compared with the two heads
  30. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 7 January 2014 00: 09
    +9
    But even to the walls of the USSR (the "Iron Curtain"), which were considered impenetrable, it turns out, you can put the "Trojan horse" ...

    I want to note to the author that the "iron curtain" was not arranged by the USSR from the rest of the world, it was the countries of the West who fenced it off from the USSR and the countries of socialism. In the USSR there was a "locked border", these are different things.
    1. GREAT RUSSIA
      7 January 2014 21: 02
      -5
      However, this curtain was also supported by the USSR. Why do you think Soviet citizens were not allowed to go abroad as well? So the curtain was mutual, and this means the USSR built this wall.
  31. masya
    masya 7 January 2014 00: 33
    +9
    The article is not only correct, but also timely! Those who write about superficiality and inconsistency with reality, in my opinion, are wrong. The USSR is a powerful country, which was inhabited by the great people, the Soviet people. Anyone who says the opposite is a liar and a provocateur (this is still very soft). Almost a quarter of a century has passed since the collapse of our Motherland, and in all its former corners, its former citizens, finally realized WHAT THEY HAVE LOST !!! I believe that the former might and greatness of OUR COUNTRY will be reborn like a phoenix from the ashes. Sorry that it turned out so pretentious. It's just that what is happening in Ukraine now is so annoying that .... BUT I BELIEVE IN THE MIND OF PEOPLE! I BELIEVE THAT NO scoundrel WILL LEAVE AN ANSWER! And for those who write about the "chernukha-zakazukha" scribbled by Solzhenitsin, Rezun-Suvorov, those who believe the "memories" of Khrushchev (with his hands covered in blood) and many, many more. I would like to advise: - Leave the story alone. Take charge of your life.
  32. disa
    disa 7 January 2014 03: 04
    +4
    The need for reform is a MYTH. Stable, fueled by the liberals from the inside, otherwise all this hardware that cost us the country is not justified otherwise. Khrushchev's thaw is the same fig only on the other side as Gorbachev's perestroika, the only difference is that they managed to strangle the first due to his own limitations and the worst thing is that Gorbachev did not sign the execution lists and his truth-womb was all truth, only his personal, but it was more than enough to take revenge on all peoples for their happy childhood. In neither case, the country did not need sharp cuffs ... All cuffs took place precisely in the most prosperous moments in terms of the economy, when it was just necessary to move forward, but the catch is that if you keep two generations in a stable balance in the sense of ideals and ensure succession without the confusion of the accursed past and "necessary reformism" multiplying this by economic well-being, the third is capable of giving birth to another society, and with this in the USSR there was a war not for life but death from within, and even those who were in the eighties they were ready to serve the Motherland, fly into space, build and wear foreign jeans at the same time, drowned in a swamp of self-digging and debunking the ideals imposed from above under the sauce: "... something we have is not like everyone else ... all the village. ... a dull scoop, a backward Bolshevik, rotten country ", etc. If a woman is deprived of the meaning of having a child, she will fly off the rails. If a country is deprived of the meaning of the birth of a new society, which is certainly better than the previous one, it will also fly off the coils and rush like a pig-nosed, collective herd to the abyss.
    1. Manul
      Manul 8 January 2014 23: 50
      0
      Reforms were needed. They were ripe .. They simply took advantage of people's desire to change their lives for the better in order to turn a grandiose scam into the collapse of the USSR.
      1. disa
        disa 9 January 2014 00: 33
        0
        Reforms What Let Me Ask You? And pay attention .. I’m not negative, although I do not agree with you ...
  33. Watchman
    Watchman 7 January 2014 03: 11
    +8
    The union was ruined by stupid and corrupt politicians. To unite all parts of the USSR together we need a great leader, of whom there were very few in history.
  34. demotivator
    demotivator 7 January 2014 06: 38
    +13
    And so it turned out that this horse turned out to be traitors among their own people: people who betrayed their own country, their own people for money. People who have condemned millions of people to starvation, and, oddly enough, some of these people are still continuing their activities.

    This power has sunk into eternity, like the legendary Atlantis. The death of this great civilization has become a tragedy of planetary proportions. This country is not just destroyed and plundered by enemies, but posthumously slandered, dishonored, drowned in the mud. However, the farther we are from the Stalin era, the more obvious the simple truth becomes: the Soviet Union was not the Evil Empire, but a lost paradise of a bright past.
    It’s hard for today's youth to believe that such a thing is possible — free medicine and education, crime rates are ten times lower than in the modern Russian Federation, enormous prestige in the international arena, backed by phenomenal economic and military power, advanced science and industry, and most importantly, self-esteem of the Soviet a person, pride in his country, self-awareness as a citizen, not of the “raw materials appendage” of the West, but of a leading superpower. It is precisely for this that the Empire of Good was so fiercely hated by all the “shit,” thieves and bloodsuckers, which is why they sentenced the USSR to death. The vile execution of the Soviet Union was not just a “geopolitical catastrophe”, but the greatest crime against all of humanity. The figures who destroyed my homeland are not just vile degenerates, these people, among other things, could not imagine what they were destroying, nor how it would respond to people and to themselves.
    Today there are examples of this sea. Here is one of the active destroyers of the Soviet Union, journalist L. Radzikhovsky writes an article “20 years later” and summarizes the results of the new government.
    “Over the years, the world has become the world of the Internet, mobile communications, and personal computers. What do we have to do with this? This: we all buy it for oil tanks. But then we ourselves are trending about "nanotechnology." The share of oil and gas in our exports has grown from 50% (1985) to 70% (2007). This is the economic result of 20 years. Only the Lada are unchanged.
    The members of the Soviet Politburo and relatives lived like petty Western millionaires. Russian oligarchs live, as befits the sheikhs of Russian Arabia. This is the social outcome.
    The population of the RSFSR in 1979 - 137 million; in 1989 - 147 million. In 2009, 140 million.
    The population of France in 1989 is 56 million; in 2009 - 64 million.
    The population of the USA in 1989 is 244 million; in 2009 - 305 million.
    The population of Canada in 1989 is 26 million; in 2009 - 33 million.
    This is a quantitative result compared with other Christian countries.
    30 (official data for 000) highly qualified scientists who left Russia for work in the USA, Europe, and Israel, 2001% of the members of the mathematics department of the National Academy of Sciences of the USA are emigrants from Russia, and the average age of a RAS researcher is over 10 years . 55th: four Nobel laureates in the field of science (and 1989 in 1986 at all), 6th: two laureates (Ginzburg, 2009 years old, and Alferov, 92 years old). Not a single plenary speaker from Russia at the World Mathematical Congress (Madrid, 79) and three plenary speakers at the same congress are emigrants from the USSR.
    Such is the high-quality intellectual result of 20 years. ”
  35. Lumumba
    Lumumba 7 January 2014 06: 47
    +8
    The so-called "positive demographic growth" is provided exclusively due to the huge flow of migrants, with all the ensuing consequences. Otherwise, everything is correct.
  36. Boris55
    Boris55 7 January 2014 08: 33
    -2
    Speaking of the USSR, specify what period of the history of its coexistence you mean:
    - Trotskyite-Leninsky (genocide);
    - Stalin (creation);
    - Khrushchevsky-Brezhnevsky (de-industrialization, debilitation);
    - Gorbachevsky-Yeltsinsky (destruction).

    Especially for adherents of the Khrushchev-Brezhnev period:

    1. Armata
      Armata 7 January 2014 19: 44
      +2
      Quote: Boris55
      Speaking of the USSR, specify what period of the history of its coexistence you mean:
      - Trotskyite-Leninsky (genocide);
      - Stalin (creation);
      - Khrushchevsky-Brezhnevsky (de-industrialization, debilitation);
      - Gorbachevsky-Yeltsinsky (destruction).

      Especially for adherents of the Khrushchev-Brezhnev period:
      Yeah, the visyarik, Genesi, Gordons (gin). These are more natural products. Now you will find vodka of old-mode figs. And the wines of chile, Spain, France and California. Fun was soldered by our leaders by opening factories, giving jobs to people. The brain (well, or the remnants) cure. For reference, Hunchback cut down vineyards in the USSR for the import of foreign wines.
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 7 January 2014 20: 00
        +1
        Quote: Mechanic
        For reference, Hunchback cut down vineyards in the USSR for the import of foreign wines.

        And Ligachev ?! He missed him.
        Good evening Eugene. hi
      2. Boris55
        Boris55 8 January 2014 10: 10
        0
        Remember the history of American Indians and the "fire water". Doesn't it remind you of anything?
        Remembered the cut down vineyards, but don't you remember the Royal alcohol?
        You say jobs - for the production of poison destroying and destroying millions of lives?
        At first they introduced a semi-dry law, and then they poured alcohol over the country and while the people were in a drunken stupor they quietly divided everything ... Alcohol is a drug, at least that was until 72.



        Spread the video in full:

  37. Iskander1369
    Iskander1369 7 January 2014 09: 40
    +5
    Quote: anarh
    There were ghouls there.
    One Mehlis is worth it.

    Dear, what do you know about Mehlis? Only that nonsense that was shown in the movies?
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 7 January 2014 12: 05
      +1
      A typical executor of the will and order of the owner, without brains and discussions. He knew how it should be, but did not know how to do it.
  38. Barakuda
    Barakuda 7 January 2014 11: 58
    +5
    Quote: SoSland
    I agree with you a little year, but two is just right. With such a vast territory as ours, only contract soldiers cannot solve the problem of combat effectiveness. There is a Soviet experience in training soldiers. Remember the preparation of the DShB of the Airborne Forces of the Soviet era, the main thing is that it was really preparation and not the construction of bases "like rythnoe" and it should begin at school. I remember my school years, in the SAMBO section the trainer checked my school diary every week, and at school at the beginning of the academic year they asked for a certificate from the section :). I think comments are superfluous, especially since no one paid for visiting the gym, only a certificate from the clinic was needed.

    True. At the age of 15, Kalash knew how to use five fingers, shot, threw grenades, the basics of GO-we knew, knew how to wear a gas mask, where are some mines and how to deal with them. And this is at school ... As for the diary, it's true. If at least one 5 is scary to go to training. And now, in my district center there were sections of wrestling, boxing, athletics, weightlifting .. And now there is nothing of this. At the stadium benches, young people drink beer and share who at what level in the comp. games.
  39. Barakuda
    Barakuda 7 January 2014 12: 10
    +3
    But I like the experience of the Swiss army, the Service is obligatory, fees are obligatory, if not, to jail. Businesses pay for everything. And after the service, the weapon is with you home. Every family has more than one rifle at home.
  40. Uhe
    Uhe 7 January 2014 13: 39
    +5
    The article distorts the facts.

    Reforms of the USSR were not required. Rather, systemic reforms were not required, but structural ones - yes. That is, there was no need to break anything, let alone abandon socialism. “Perestroika” was not started by Gorbachev, Gorbachev was not an independent figure. With the help of machinations, people from the top of the KGB brought him to power, even under Andropov and with the participation of Andropov, who began to dismantle socialism and seize the power and wealth of the USSR into their own hands. With the help of machinations, Gorabchev was put in first place in the country, pushing back those who were actually supposed to become the head of the CPSU and the Government. But he himself could not have done anything, since decisions by the leadership of the USSR were made collectively! This is what many do not know or forget: in the USSR, all decisions were made jointly at different levels, and not by some obscure dictator. Humpbacked without his accomplices could not have done anything, that is, he already had accomplices in the leadership of the CPSU, the Government, and they were protected and helped by high-profile KGB leaders. That is why, by the way, the KGB did not defend the constitutional system of the Country, but merged it - subordination;)

    Further, it was required to carry out such "reforms" that would lead to a change in the consciousness of citizens and the situation in the country, which would destroy socialism and lead the country in fact to a junta (aha, a colonel in power and the power of the military or special services is a junta, friends. Everything is in the best traditions banana republics;)).

    It was necessary to make the appearance of a difficult situation in the country and the choice of the future path. Here comes another important decision-making scheme. In the USSR, science was very highly developed, so the Government makes a request in acc. scientific institutions for the development of reforms for the country. Reforms are being worked out at the Academy of Sciences level; thick volumes of scientific conclusions and action programs, including conclusions on the program proposed by his wing, are laid on Gorbatom’s desk. And there the summary of this program is given clear and clear: death to the country that will go under such a program. But many other ways of development of the country, all socialist, are given. But this is precisely what Gorbatov’s associates do not need, so the destructive path is chosen, and all scientific conclusions and suggestions are sent to the trash. The decision, of course, is taken collectively by all the accomplices of Hunchback.
  41. Uhe
    Uhe 7 January 2014 13: 39
    +3
    Further, you all know what happened - sabotage, deceit, seizure of economic leverage by the close ones and accomplices of Gorbaty. Yeltsin, by the way, acted together with Gorbatov, coordinating his actions constantly. However, there is such a country - Britain, which believes that the lands of Russia should belong to it, so it has been interfering in the affairs of our country for 500 years, trying to capture it economically and politically, or at least destroy it. And then she is given a great opportunity to achieve this. They seize the reins of government by the destruction of socialism in the USSR, rely on Yeltsin and his clique, write off Gorbaty to the scrap and seek the collapse of social services. camp, then the USSR itself, coupled with the dismantling of socialism. All. It began with a betrayal of power, ended with the destruction of the country.

    The USSR did not pose a threat to NATO from a military point of view, since we and NATO had an equal position of forces. On the other hand, from an economic point of view, the USSR was the first (or second after the United States, what to consider) the world economy and represented a huge danger that came close to the next terrible crisis of the United States and the entire Western capitalist world. Not only danger, but it was a huge market, huge wealth that could be sucked out, extending a comfortable life. And with the help of a handful of traitors from the KGB and the CPSU, Britain achieved this. What can I say, well done. We lost, they won. We were thrown back many dozens, if not hundreds, of years, and they got a respite and pulled ahead.

    So these traitors and their followers rule the country so far. Therefore, it is always funny to me when someone sees the fathers of the people in them;) Okst, these are the children of the Brokeback nest. The difference between them is only that some want to sell everything at the root of transnational corporations and feed themselves from their hands, while others want to lead the sacking of the country by these transnational corporations, direct and lead this process. But there is no particular difference for the country between them - horseradish is not sweeter. Well, they betrayed them once, they will betray both the second and the third - if only the buyer is found, and they, in turn, are standing at our borders. And after all they sell them!
    1. GREAT RUSSIA
      7 January 2014 15: 07
      +3
      In military terms, the USSR still had some superiority, there were 65000 tanks alone, and the army was 4 million, if this is not superiority, what is it?
    2. Suvorov
      Suvorov 7 January 2014 20: 10
      -5
      Reforms of the USSR were required due to the inefficiency of the economic system. The KGB was well aware of this and tried to convey this to the authorities. This was one of the reasons for Andropov's promotion to the highest post in the Communist Party. Andropov tried to start reforms, but did not have time. Despite the successes of the USSR in the space and military industries, the development of the resource base, there has been a lag in a number of "breakthrough" industries such as modern wireless communication systems, computers, robotics, pharmacology, high-tech medicine, biotechnology and others. At that time, the KGB possessed the best analytical centers in the country, and its leaders perfectly understood what this could lead to. There is nothing to say about the rest of the economy, they lagged behind hopelessly without any chance to catch up with competitors from the capitalist countries. With advanced science and a large number of scientific results, their introduction into industry was not made. The industry, represented by its "generals", was not interested in innovation. Why complicate your life? For the introduction of a new one always means difficulties, problems, failures, and so "make yourself a plan" and do not think about anything "superfluous". Of course, in the critical areas on which the survival of the state itself, and therefore the "elite" itself depended, all this was introduced, since these industries received increased attention, resources were concentrated there, but this attention and resources were not enough for "civilian" industries ... But these are industries that work for the consumer. But the consumer in the USSR was unassuming (due to the general deficit) and "hawala" everything. In addition, there was a division of labor in the CMEA: the USSR was responsible for heavy industry and the provision of raw materials, and our friends from other socialist countries for consumer goods. All of us (who lived in the USSR) perfectly remember Yugoslavian furniture, Bulgarian canned vegetables, Czechoslovak shoes, Vietnamese consumer goods and Cuban sugar. I'm not talking about Hungarian buses and German carriages. The goods are not bad, but they were inferior to Western counterparts. The economic backwardness plus incommensurable aid to our "friends" in the Third World countries would sooner or later bring down the Soviet system. But, if we followed the "Chinese" version of the transition to the market and would not "surrender" our geopolitical interests to our new Western "friends", we would not now have problems not only with the former republics of the Union, but also with Eastern Europe, which we gave away for free. Although, as a result of the Second World War, we, as the winners, had the right to control it as our sphere of influence, for the liberation of which from fascism a huge price was paid. So millions of Russians died in vain? The Americans did not leave Western Europe, but, on the contrary, "cleaned up" and Eastern. Now the last "pieces" are being picked up that remained from the Soviet influence (Serbia, Libya, Iraq, Syria).
      1. ran42
        ran42 8 January 2014 20: 31
        0
        Everything is exactly 100%, thanks, and the rest, with no exception, is just nonsense or fiction. And for me, the more minuses, the more decent person.
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  42. calocha
    calocha 7 January 2014 13: 57
    +4
    It remains morally to break the enemies and we are on the shoulder. The USSR first collapsed through culture, the pressure continues, the enemies need to split Russia into fragments, and then destroy, but people began to understand and ... wake up, which cannot but rejoice.
  43. Alf
    Alf 7 January 2014 14: 23
    +3
    Quote: Orang
    Quote: ochakow703
    and so bomzh
    Right. Not for nothing that Medved pushed that the population needed to be mobile. We will wander around the country like gypsies.

    Now, if the ayfonchik companions himself so wound around the country, along the route "Kremlin-Siberia".
  44. Suvorov
    Suvorov 7 January 2014 15: 29
    0
    Gorbachev was an opportunist. He, like a weather vane, turned to where "the wind blows." And the wind mainly blew from the West. He liked the fact that Western leaders and the media praised him. He fell for this flattery, and he was also "bred" by selling him such goods as "universal human values", "democracy", "human rights", "freedom of speech" and so on. Of course, such things represent an important component of Western ideological doctrine. But they do not exist there in absolute "pure form". When the interests of the West are at odds with these values, they do not hesitate to "push them aside." For "internal" and "external" use, this "product" is slightly different. Of course, they promised him a lot of things (not the advance of NATO to the East, a safe world, the priority of the UN and international law, etc.) Now we know the price of their promises, but Gorbachev trusted them, but in vain. He was afraid to look like a "conservative", to use authoritarian and forceful methods to preserve the integrity of the country, even when the situation "demanded." Of course, in his entourage, as well as in the mainstream media, there were "agents of influence", but he himself turned out to be a "sucker" rather than a traitor. That does not relieve him of responsibility for the collapse of a great country. He should be judged rather for negligence and failure to fulfill the duties of the head of state than for treason. Taking as a basis someone else's ideology and abandoning his own, he put himself and the country with its thousand-year history in a deliberately disadvantageous position, since playing other people's cards (especially "marked" ones) means losing and obeying the rules of the winner. The powerful ideological apparatus of the CPSU was simply confused and did not know what to do. He was not ready for "glasnost" and was unable to withstand the planned information attack. It was also a big mistake that Gorbachev did not start active market reforms within the USSR, so the more radical Yeltsin began to carry out them on the territory of the RSFSR, thereby "torpedoing" the single economic space of the Union. But a "time bomb" was planted under the USSR back in the times of Brezhnev, by including in the USSR Constitution an article "on the free secession of republics from the USSR" based on Lenin's concept "on the right of nations to self-determination up to secession." It goes without saying that this "mine" was pushed through by agents of influence, convincing the then leadership of the USSR that such a step was "democratic" in the eyes of the world community. Here you are once again convinced of the correctness of Stalin, who proposed autonomy in the framework of the RSFSR instead of the union republics, but could not convince Lenin. Further, the "democrats" persuaded Gorbachev to develop a new union treaty, meaning to do the same with the RSFSR, since all the current autonomous republics were among the subjects of the new treaty. Well, at least EBN did nothing of the sort, and for that he + (with my disrespect for him for everything else). Conclusion: the USSR collapsed as a single state because the ideology of the "Soviet man" (as a new nation) collapsed, and because of flaws in the concept of the state itself.
  45. Alf
    Alf 7 January 2014 16: 04
    +6
    Quote: Suvorov
    ... Of course, in his entourage, as well as in the mainstream media, there were "agents of influence", but he himself turned out to be a "sucker" rather than a traitor. That does not absolve him of responsibility for the collapse of the great country. He should be tried for negligence and failure to fulfill the duties of the head of state rather than for treason.

    Tagged ub ... the dock was fully aware of its role in the destruction of the USSR, otherwise he would not have accepted the Nobel Prize for the collapse of his own country. He himself repeatedly from the screen spoke about his role in the collapse of the USSR.
    And he must be judged according to Articles 58 and 64 of the Criminal Code, as for "sabotage and subversive activities aimed at the collapse of the country."
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 7 January 2014 19: 47
      +5
      Quote: Alf
      Tagged ub ... the dock was fully aware of its role in the destruction of the USSR

      He not only realized, but did it consciously, along with his Raisa. In our country, a law needs to be passed so that the former president and his relatives, after the end of his reign, remain in Russia. So that there isn’t such that I’ve spoiled here, but I’ve got to live abroad. And so that no privileges to him or his family. And then Humpbacked hit the road abroad and from there will teach how we need to live. You come to the country, walk the streets and campaign here, you’ll look not only at the head. It is a pity that no one will accept these laws, because the legislators do not want to chop the branch under themselves. His shirt is closer to the body.
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  46. wolf1945
    wolf1945 7 January 2014 19: 18
    +4
    Lucky for our country with traitors and fools! And he will curse the hunchback descendants as a real traitor and Judas to betray the country for 30 pieces of silver forever with contempt for the hunchback! soldier
  47. FiremanRS
    FiremanRS 7 January 2014 19: 49
    +3
    An article, a definite and well-deserved plus! Negative: the article is not analytical. Stop giving her away for what she is not. Infa collected superficially, but consistent with the truth. I also read some openly liberal (from the word liberal already sick) comments and rejoice in the quiet how they are minuscated. In people, something really changes in consciousness, as in myself, only I get smarter with age from the experience gained and the information filtered through myself, and for many only after a liberal kick. So article +, country - hurray, people - thank you for starting to think, and not stupidly chew and enjoy the new gaskets for zombies.
  48. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 7 January 2014 20: 09
    +4
    Pros .... USSR !!! And the real culprits and the current "effective managers still do not decorate lamp posts !?
  49. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 7 January 2014 21: 24
    +1
    w.ebdo.g (2) RU
    the main enemy in the country is not corruption, but the fact that the country itself is currently acupunctured by the Americans.

    Here I am - a simple, say, layman. But I understood this for a long time, and Putin himself said that over 90 CIA agents worked in the Russian government in the 2000s and 2000s. How is this even possible ??? And the fact that the money of the Russian Federation is still in the USA is a big question for me!
    In the video, Valentin Kasatonov cited Lenin's words that in order to seize power, it is necessary to seize the state bank and train stations. Well, Lenin also said - the media must be seized. And in Russia, the media have long been seized by "partners" from the United States and Europe (I wonder if these are Putin's personal partners? No, probably the entire government ...), but what, the train stations, Mendel signed a decree on [b] airport privatization [/ b]"Vnukovo" ... It turns out that not all STRATEGIC OBJECTS have been removed from the subordination of the STATE ... I do not know what to call it all, and how to understand it all ...
  50. Megre
    Megre 7 January 2014 22: 43
    +2
    You need to understand what happened.