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How to become great. On the "antikalashnikovskoy" PR wave

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  1. Yves762
    Yves762 30 December 2013 08: 24
    +46
    Let them bark ... You look, they will choke with saliva.
    1. Very old
      Very old 30 December 2013 08: 41
      +4
      Quote: Yves762
      Let them bark ... You look, they will choke with saliva.


      The wind carries
    2. bomg.77
      bomg.77 30 December 2013 09: 02
      +1
      Quote: Yves762
      Yves762 Today, 08: 24 New
      Let them bark ... You look, they will choke with saliva.
      Again terrorist attack !!!! A trawl bus blew up in Volgograd 10 people died!
      1. sledgehammer102
        sledgehammer102 30 December 2013 09: 47
        +6
        Quote: bomg.77
        Again terrorist attack !!!! A trawl bus blew up in Volgograd 10 people died!


        Etogore. And the grief of the whole country! But especially gifted everyone is trying to turn inside out, as was the case with the catastrophe in Kazan (everyone remembers Sobchachki’s tweet?), And all just to express their pseudo-patriotism, hiding under him a thirst for profit and a thirst for power. The same thing with Volgograd ... Liberalism of the brain, damn it!
        1. stroporez
          stroporez 30 December 2013 11: 11
          0
          mdya .......... and this, it was our power ....... and the acting one, I’m sure, he argues the same way ..... so there is nothing to be surprised ....... ....
          1. Tartary
            Tartary 30 December 2013 12: 30
            +5
            Quote: stroporez
            mdya .......... and this, it was our power ....... and the acting one, I’m sure, he argues the same way ..... so there is nothing to be surprised ....... ....


            But to hell, is he Kokhhhh, not the khukh-mukhra of which Sailors, Kozhedub, Zhukov, or finally Kalashnikov ...))) I will come across (suddenly) in a dashing year ... I will try to prevent him from cutting the fly for AKM. ..

            This semi (under) dude Koch looks like aphid swamp!
            1. Cherdak
              Cherdak 30 December 2013 21: 07
              +1
              Quote: Tartary
              I will try not to give him time to cut the fly on the AKM ...


              And it’s better to do it in such a way that every liberal-tolerance feels his involvement
            2. stroporez
              stroporez 31 December 2013 07: 48
              0
              Quote: Tartary
              It will come to me (suddenly) in a dashing year ...
              --- otherwise the "golden age" ...........
      2. rolik
        rolik 30 December 2013 11: 35
        +15
        Quote: bomg.77
        ! They blew up a trawl bus in Volgograd

        When I lived in the USSR, the word terrorist attack was like from another planet. I could not even think that in a few decades this would begin in my country.
        I went to the store to buy New Year gifts, here - bang and that’s it .... life is over. And there is nothing present or future.
        I believe that it is necessary to destroy both terrorists and all their relatives. Then it will be disagreeable to others. Cruel? yes cruel, but it is justified. Going to blow up people, let them think that their family will be completely destroyed, at the root, without concessions and sentiments.
        1. snake
          snake 30 December 2013 11: 50
          +13
          The sooner we understand that a real war is going on around us, the faster we will begin respectively. way of thinking and acting. The thinking of a person in conditions of military operations and in conditions of peaceful life are two big differences. It doesn’t matter who the person is - a soldier or a milkmaid.

          P.S. In war conditions, wartime laws come into force. Treason in peace and in war are also two big differences.

          P.P.S. Joseph Vissarionovich was the kindest soul; he only evicted the Tatars from Crimea, and he set up Bandera’s schools, hospitals and factories, which they successfully drained. Do not repeat the mistakes of the past.
        2. vanaheym
          vanaheym 30 December 2013 13: 48
          +6
          Bury in pork skins. To not get to Allah.
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        4. Mairos
          Mairos 31 December 2013 13: 24
          +1
          close to destroy? Are you out of your mind? If a person grew up in a normal family, and then, in the years 18-20, he became a Wahhabi and committed a terrorist attack, then what, destroy parents and siblings? What is the meaning? He nas.rat to them, who are you doing badly?
    3. Alez
      Alez 30 December 2013 12: 53
      +3
      A person who does not know how to create and create, can only consume and crap. In this case, the freaks knocking on the keys, imagined themselves to be creators. The creators of shit figuratively speaking.
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    5. Baron Wrangell
      Baron Wrangell 30 December 2013 14: 09
      +4
      Quote: Yves762
      Let them bark ... You look, they will choke with saliva.

      if they say disgusting things in my back, only my wife hears them ... ah!
      F. Ranevskaya
  2. bomg.77
    bomg.77 30 December 2013 08: 27
    +10
    They have already explained to the enemies and fools that the AK-47 has a different design than the Sturmgever-44, that it is a MISCELLANEOUS weapon.
    Yesterday about such people, the article was "To crush rubbish ..............." These are people trying to blacken everything no matter what, and we all know them perfectly well.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 30 December 2013 08: 42
      +3
      Quote: bomg.77
      Yesterday about such people, the article was "To crush rubbish ..............." These are people trying to blacken everything no matter what, and we all know them perfectly well.

      No need to crush them, you just don’t need to talk about them, they make themselves insignificant fame in someone else's Glory.
      1. Very old
        Very old 30 December 2013 08: 51
        +5
        Eugene,
        about insignificance ... not worth it
        We ourselves like PR
        1. Charon
          Charon 30 December 2013 18: 47
          +1
          Quote: Very old
          about insignificance ... not worth it



          If they are silent, they might think that we have nothing to say.
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      2. bomg.77
        bomg.77 30 December 2013 09: 06
        +4
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Do not crush them, just do not talk about them
        Weak brains can be persuaded to propagate them, as we did in 91. This infection must be stopped in the bud.
        1. General Frost
          General Frost 30 December 2013 11: 35
          +2
          Greetings to all members of the forum and Happy New Year !!!!! I will express my opinion that those who accidentally survived the AK-47 after having tested it on them. hi
    2. Sakmagon
      Sakmagon 30 December 2013 12: 56
      +11
      Look, envy!
      My second half... laughing
  3. Fox
    Fox 30 December 2013 08: 34
    -15%
    guys, NO US AC 47 !!!! AND IT WASN’T !!! How much can you then? ...
    1. Yves762
      Yves762 30 December 2013 08: 39
      +4
      UAZ-452 is also not a "Loaf", but it's more familiar.
    2. crazy_fencer
      crazy_fencer 30 December 2013 08: 53
      +18
      Quote: Fox
      guys, NO US AC 47 !!!! AND IT WASN’T !!! How much can you then? ...


      Of course, of course. All understanding people know that they began to put numerical indices only starting with the AK-74. AK, AKM, AKS, AKSU ... just an article about something else, so let's forgive the author for this common mistake. And the article, alas, is about the scourge of Russia, characteristic to such an extent, oddly enough, only for our country. After all, the author writes about the direct heirs of those people who hated their own country so much that after the defeat of Russia in the Russo-Japanese War, enthusiastic congratulatory telegrams were sent to the Japanese Mikado. Find a similar precedent in any other country ... At the same time, they unwaveringly consider themselves "the conscience of the nation", although Lenin called them "the gov..m of the nation" and was absolutely right.
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 30 December 2013 10: 28
        +4
        crazy_fencer-Of course? a common mistake? oh, right now ... the words of Mikhail Timofeevich himself from the interview and memoirs are not an argument?

        Kalashnikov: -1949 year. This is the year of my transfer to the reserve. I continued to work at the factory where serial production of AK-47 assault rifles was established.
        http://militera.lib.ru/memo/russian/kalashnikov_mt/06.html
        ______________________

        Mikhail Timofeevich, how was the AK-47 assault rifle born?

        Kalashnikov:- In October 1941, near Bryansk, as the commander of the T-34 tank, I was seriously wounded and shell-shocked. While being treated at the hospital, I thought a lot about what needs to be done so that our fighters can successfully resist the German infantry. I myself saw, and also heard from wounded soldiers and commanders, that the Germans had automatic weapons, and we only have a rifle, and then in the initial period of the Great Patriotic War, not every soldier of the Red Army had it.

        It was in the hospital that I began to design, worked on a submachine gun. This was my first experience in creating a new model of automatic small arms. And I chose this profession for life. Then there was a light machine gun, a self-loading carbine. I went a hard, thorny path, while I developed the AK-47 assault rifle. In 1949, it was adopted by the Soviet Army and Navy, and I, at that time, as a senior sergeant, was awarded the Stalin Prize of the first degree. Continuing to work on further improving and creating new weapons, I rose to the rank of lieutenant general.

        - Can we say that the AK-47 assault rifle gave a ticket to the life of Joseph Stalin?

        M. Kalashnikov: - This formulation of the question is legitimate. As the head of state, Stalin himself became acquainted with samples of military equipment, which, after his personal approval, were adopted. That was that era. As far as I know, before the serial production of the AK-47, the machine was on the desktop of Joseph Vissarionovich

        What happened after the AK-47?

        Kalashnikov:- We have concentrated our efforts on solving the daunting task of unifying the small arms of the Soviet Army, significantly simplifying its production and mastering the troops. In the 1950-1970s, on the basis of the AK-47, a number of unified automatic weapons developed by me were adopted by the USSR Armed Forces: AKM, AKMS, AK-74, AKS-74, AK-74U, RPK, RPKS, RPK-74 , RPKS-74, PC, PKS, PKM, PKSM, PKMT, PKB, PKMB.

        How do your designs look compared to western models?

        Kalashnikov: - They are still based on the principles that were used to create the AK-47 - simplicity and reliability. This is exactly what a soldier needs. For example, in the Middle East, a better weapon than a Kalashnikov assault rifle simply does not exist.
        http://www.ng.ru/nvo/2002-11-01/9_kalashnikov.html
      2. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 30 December 2013 19: 55
        +1
        Quote: crazy_fencer
        although Lenin called them "gov..m of the nation" and was absolutely right.

        However, the character you mentioned in 1904. solidarized with Japs and in 1914. with boshes. However, I believe you, because he himself was "flesh from flesh and blood from blood" of the same social stratum. Knew what he was saying!
    3. Hleb
      Hleb 30 December 2013 08: 54
      +6
      really how much is it possible? it has already been written more than once or twice that the AK-47 was a pre-production or experimental prototype. and it really existed, its people held it in their hands. but no, they will say that it wasn’t
    4. Sakmagon
      Sakmagon 30 December 2013 12: 52
      +5
      Fox
      guys, NO US AC 47 !!!! AND IT WASN’T !!! How much can you then? ...

      That's it, how much is it possible ???
      Who calls his invention?
      AUTHOR - Kalashnikov!
      KALASHNIKOV SAID - AK-47!
      ALL!!!
  4. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 30 December 2013 08: 39
    +11
    The dog barks - the caravan goes on. let them bark. The best recognition of the contribution of M. Kalashnikov is the prevalence of his brainchild. Is there an M-16 or any other machine in the arms of at least one country? The kingdom of heaven, a true PATRIOT with a capital letter, there would be more such PEOPLE
  5. Lk17619
    Lk17619 30 December 2013 08: 42
    +10
    Correctly said in the article: the standard! The simplest design of all the weapons of the world, based on the design of the AK, many types of small arms were created. And Kalashnikov himself was just a genius, that’s all, and he was just a citizen of his state and how he could develop it.
    1. smith7
      smith7 30 December 2013 09: 26
      +8
      Yes, this is not the simplest design! To come up with such "simplicity" - you have to be seven spans in your forehead! A simple design is always the fruit of a hard search for solutions, or inspiration from above! Mechanical devices in the field of defense technology require many years of development. By the way, the AK-47 differs from the AK-100 of 1998, as the Ford-T of 1909 differs from the Ford Focus of 2009 by the structural and technological solutions used in it. That is, in some place it is just "decorating baubles", and in some place there are technological improvements and operational improvements. But both shoot reliably and efficientlywink The initial layout and design of the main components is common. The mass of subtle design and technological solutions that are noticeable to professionals distinguishes these samples.
    2. O_RUS
      O_RUS 30 December 2013 21: 22
      +2
      Quote: Lk17619
      And Kalashnikov himself was just a genius, that’s all, and he was just a citizen of his state and how he could develop it.


      Mikhail Timofeevich thank you! Everlasting memory!

      “- Remember that I created these weapons to defend the Motherland!”
      M.T. Kalashnikov
  6. ando_bor
    ando_bor 30 December 2013 08: 57
    +13
    I read English-language comments there, the same points are present in the article, but they are much less than on the Russian-language Internet.
    There is a war, an information war, they have ordered an order from Russia, they are not allowed to go to television, and the Internet is an open area, people should be vigilant to filter information, any information occasion is used to run into Russia.
    Liked the comment from the English site: Condolences from the United States. I own the AK-47, and it gives me peace of mind, knowing that I can protect myself from the corrupt government and police if I need to. indeed, AK is a weapon that protects the poor against the rich, helpless against the powerful. This is a folk weapon. liberation tool. it was always this great gift that Mikhail Kalashnikov gave to Russia and the world. RIP Kalashnikov
  7. Double major
    Double major 30 December 2013 09: 03
    +11
    1. Mikhail Kalashnikov is a genius. Only a person who is not very burdened with intellect can argue with this. 2. The genius of Mikhail Kalashnikov is not to develop an AK-47 automation system, which by that time already existed on some weapons, including the German Schmeiser, but to develop an automaton based on this system that works equally well in dust, dirt, at temperatures from -50 to +50, and in the hands of a poorly trained militia from the machine. Well, there is still some know-how on the composition of the metal of the barrel liner, which allowed firing from the machine for a long time without losing the geometry of the barrel, due to its low heat during firing. How does our machine compare favorably with Chinese fakes.
    1. Cherdak
      Cherdak 30 December 2013 21: 00
      +3
      Quote: Twice Major
      Mikhail Kalashnikov is a genius.


      and this is world recognition
  8. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 30 December 2013 09: 04
    +3
    It’s time to close this topic ignoring the squeaky and inadequate elements of our, alas, sick society. One cannot explain to the mentally unhealthy person such complex concepts as design thought or simple expediency.
    1. ando_bor
      ando_bor 30 December 2013 09: 11
      +5
      There are so many mentally unhealthy ones - there is an order and any informational occasion is stupidly worked out, this must be understood and accordingly applied.
  9. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 30 December 2013 09: 13
    +10
    How old is the Mosin rifle and everyone is heard. So the Kalashnikov assault rifle will be for centuries good
  10. makarov
    makarov 30 December 2013 09: 21
    +3
    "But these people became symbols of the era and a source of pride for their peoples."

    And this is the truth !!
  11. predator.3
    predator.3 30 December 2013 09: 33
    +1
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    fool
    But then what does everyone copy AK from China to the Israelis, and not a storm trooper?
    And AKs released around the world more than 70 million units, and not the M-16 or the stormtrooper!
    1. Basarev
      Basarev 30 December 2013 11: 16
      +1
      And at the same time, it should be remembered that production continues, and not just the original machine - the ultramodern AK-12 is planned
  12. svskor80
    svskor80 30 December 2013 09: 42
    +4
    From the whole stream of information on the subject of the death of the Great Russian Armourer, one should not forget that there is practically no system that generates the "Kalashnikovs". Who will come up with a new machine (and not only) is not yet clear. I would like to believe that all this will be very soon.
  13. Renat
    Renat 30 December 2013 09: 49
    +1
    Why would anyone explain anything crazy? They say that the machine is copied, let them say. Maybe just ignore these fools? Many of them did not hold the machine in their hands. And they have no idea how it is generally arranged and what is its simplicity, reliability and wild popularity.
  14. Evgeniy-111
    Evgeniy-111 30 December 2013 09: 52
    +3
    In addition to the favorite freaks of America and Europe, there were John Moses Browning and Colonel Colt, "who equalized everyone," as well as the brothers Emil and Leon Nagan.
    1. kaktus
      kaktus 30 December 2013 18: 10
      +1
      as well as Mauser, Smith and Wesson ..
  15. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 30 December 2013 10: 05
    +4
    Many foreign media outlets paid tribute to the talent and modesty of our Kalashnikov, and some authors are not alien to "the glory of the ancient Greek Herostratus" (even though through the negative, but get on the columns of newspapers). Others:
    Some people hate our country and consider any occasion for its pride to be the right moment for spraying their saliva. Others simply do not understand anything, they consider this lack of understanding to be independent thinking and, in a particular case, proudly demonstrate their lack of understanding of how great Kalashnikov is.

    And still others carry out a program of paid propaganda of negativity about Russia, portraying it as an "evil empire" (taking this nickname from Solzhenitsyn in exile) or a wild country, paving the way for another "clergy trip to the East". They cannot calm down, but "the dogs bark, and the caravan moves on." If they scold, then they envy Russia, the homeland of the Great Russian Gunsmith.
  16. grotto
    grotto 30 December 2013 10: 08
    +1
    Of course it is! Yes, enemies will be rejected, but fools will not understand.
  17. vvp2412
    vvp2412 30 December 2013 10: 08
    0
    Do not pay attention to degenerate and frank pi to races! If there is no attention to their cunning people, they will write less shit. And it would be nice to meet such scribblers in the evening in the courtyards and treat their heads against the walls!
  18. stroporez
    stroporez 30 December 2013 10: 21
    +6
    some of these "philanthropists" are in no hurry to anathematize Colt, who created the weapon of genocide ......... and the same Schmeiser, and Remington, and Mauser, and Maxim .......... ah, yes - they are not Russians ........ therefore, I am convinced, there would have been M.T. Kalashnikov, for example, well ...... oh nationality ------ not a single stinking "hole" in his side is not with ... well
    1. Renat
      Renat 30 December 2013 10: 26
      +1
      Clearly said. +. Do you see the brainchild of Kalashnikov killing people, and what other trunks? Do they support world peace? Democracy gains protect?
    2. vkrav
      vkrav 30 December 2013 11: 46
      0
      All that Colt created was production and trademark. He was not noticed in the creation of the weapon itself.
      1. stroporez
        stroporez 30 December 2013 11: 54
        -16%
        but the fact remains ------ he intensely distributed weapons that killed more than one thousand civilians (women, children, the elderly ...)
        1. Walking
          Walking 30 December 2013 15: 30
          +1
          Kalashnikov himself distributed? Did you see it yourself? Kalashnikov is a designer and not a trader and he did not make millions in his own name.
          1. stroporez
            stroporez 31 December 2013 07: 50
            0
            or read carefully, or not vlazte --- the conversation with vkrav was about Colt .... am
        2. Cynic
          Cynic 30 December 2013 15: 56
          +1
          Quote: stroporez
          weapons that killed more than one thousand civilians (women, children, the elderly ...)

          Sorry dear stroporez but
          Kills a man, not a weapon

          More than sure that you are aware of the world's most deadly weapons, no one can compare with the number of its victims.
          1. kaktus
            kaktus 30 December 2013 18: 12
            +2
            Another corkscrew and a kitchen knife
          2. stroporez
            stroporez 31 December 2013 07: 51
            0
            or read carefully, or not vlazte --- the conversation with vkrav was about Colt ....
  19. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 30 December 2013 11: 12
    +2
    Quote: Others simply do not understand anything; they consider this lack of understanding to be independent thinking.

    For the twentieth anniversary of the development of democratic Russia, the turbulent life of our society gave birth to a huge amount of filthy foam, the destiny of which is to haul its history, bow to the West, and spoil everything that is dear to normal people. We know these renegades and may they always feel our contempt. And do not often recall them. No need to create additional PR for them.
  20. vkrav
    vkrav 30 December 2013 11: 48
    +4
    Yes, what kind of PR wave is there ... The smaller the mongrel, the higher it lifts up its leg - this is the motto and the exact description of the mode of action of the crappy media.
  21. T-130
    T-130 30 December 2013 13: 01
    +2
    It’s generally useless to argue with patients, if it weren’t for Kalashnikov someone else would create such a weapon and nothing would change, some just want to ruin everything and find a reason, such people even if they will ideally find it to curse. well, you don’t like it; live where you feel better!
  22. Black
    Black 30 December 2013 14: 56
    +1
    It is necessary for our pseudo-intellectual, malevolent diaspora of Russophobes to sew on the back "I do not like Russia" ... So that everyone can see.
    It is time not to respond to their barking, but to preventively (passing by) to beat on the ear. You look, some will cheat, while others will grow wiser.
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 30 December 2013 15: 02
      +1
      there are more than a dozen of them in the subject-sew on health. fate gave the country a great gunsmith and AK-47. they also talk about no such machine. "grateful descendants"
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 30 December 2013 15: 48
        +2
        In a similar topic said _ Who grieves, and who has a HOLIDAY! Inhumant she is nothumity!
        One remedy from them
        1. Svyatoslavovich
          Svyatoslavovich 31 December 2013 00: 42
          +1
          The videos were shot by schnicks finished, clowns ........ doesn’t know how to translate fire, doesn’t know how to shoot - went flat like a cow flat cake, it’s all five or three, then self-conceit ...... Over the growth of soldiers - neighbors laugh, mock, shirts are shorter.
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 31 December 2013 17: 27
            0
            Quote: Svyatoslavovich
            The video was shot

            Yes it is online

            Quote: Svyatoslavovich
            finished shniki

            Rather these
    2. stroporez
      stroporez 31 December 2013 10: 52
      0
      Quote: Chen
      sew on the back "I do not like Russia" ... For everyone to see.
      - a better target ..........
  23. Boris63
    Boris63 30 December 2013 15: 42
    +2
    May the Russian land not be impoverished, many great things were in Russia, and the idea that Russia will rise will not give rest to the Europeanisers.
    The mongrels have always been here and there. Let them shout, but we need to bend our line.
  24. Navy7981
    Navy7981 30 December 2013 16: 07
    +3
    Do not scatter beads in front of pigs (animals have nothing to do with it), they still do not hear anything. And yet, I noticed one interesting tendency, those who have earned or earn with their hump, those who have taken place, criticize much less, because they are responsible for the words, and every d ... mo and a bastard that was not compiled, who cannot hammer in a nail - here criticism of a waterfall .... just not the water in this "waterfall".
    Kalashnikov bright memory! And to all weapon designers Glory and Memory!
  25. msv
    msv 30 December 2013 16: 07
    +3
    Quote: rolik
    Quote: bomg.77
    ! They blew up a trawl bus in Volgograd

    When I lived in the USSR, the word terrorist attack was like from another planet. I could not even think that in a few decades this would begin in my country.
    I went to the store to buy New Year gifts, here - bang and that’s it .... life is over. And there is nothing present or future.
    I believe that it is necessary to destroy both terrorists and all their relatives. Then it will be disagreeable to others. Cruel? yes cruel, but it is justified. Going to blow up people, let them think that their family will be completely destroyed, at the root, without concessions and sentiments.


    When you (we) lived in the USSR, for example, in the same Chechnya there was no Islam. As soon as the influence of secular Soviet ideology waned, the vacuum immediately filled with another religion.
    But still there are people who do not understand on the question: why the USSR fought in Afghanistan.
    But what is characteristic - the USSR fought far from its borders
    And Russia is already on its territory.
    Nevertheless, we have a lot of ambulances for reprisals.
    Indeed, how simple the issue is resolved. Let's destroy innocent people in general. I'm not talking about justice (put yourself or your relatives in their place). I’ll talk about practicality: in this way you will be pushed into the ranks of terrorists and relatives (they will have nothing to lose)
    Smart is not about emotions. Clever determines the cause-effect relationships of events. In your case, the cause of terrorism is the relatives of the terrorists.
    In my understanding, this is an extensive list of reasons. They are generally known, but there are no relatives of terrorists on this list. And I assure you "povadno" will be. Do you really think that people who decide to end their lives will think about the fate of their relatives?
    1. Svyatoslavovich
      Svyatoslavovich 31 December 2013 00: 53
      +1
      Quote: msv
      for example, in the same Chechnya there was no Islam


      Why did you get this, Islam was, it just was not radical and was perceived as part of the culture of the local people.

      Quote: msv
      But what is characteristic - the USSR fought far from its borders


      Afghanistan is not far, it is a neighboring state of the USSR, but on the whole you are right, if you start killing the relatives of terrorists, then how will we differ from them?
  26. demotivator
    demotivator 30 December 2013 16: 22
    +2
    Great designer of sniper weapons LOBAEV
    Widely known among sniper specialists, Vladislav Lobaev suffered a complete collapse in his attempts to wage war against the thieves and emigrated to the United Arab Emirates.
    Vladislav Lobaev graduated from the Faculty of Philosophy of Moscow State University, defended a dissertation on Lutheran theologian Rudolf Bultman. At the same time he worked in the detective bureau. Having left for an internship in the USA, he became interested in sniper shooting at long distances.
    Unlike many of his colleagues, Lobaev did not stay in the United States and did not begin to earn fame in a foreign country. He returned to Russia and organized a unique company - Tsar-Cannon LLC, the only private company in the country licensed to serial production of sniper rifles. It had - in the past tense.
    Lobaev went on a path unusual for Russia. He started with exclusivity. Understanding the needs of professional snipers, he acquired the best equipment in the world and began making rifles from which you can shoot for two and a half kilometers.
    Pleasure is not cheap - the average price of a rifle reaches half a million rubles. For comparison, the price of an army SVD in good performance does not exceed 50 thousand, and the widely advertised ORSIS - 120 thousand.
    In 2009, Tsar Cannon earned 20 million rubles. Vladislapv Lobaev was noted by Forbes magazine as one of seven Russian entrepreneurs who managed to get rich on their own (!) Developments.
    Lobaev does not use other people's components - all parts of the weapon are manufactured in his company and under his personal control. The pride of Lobaev is his stainless steel trunks. Thanks to them, in the version under the cartridge .408 Chey-tac Lobaev’s rifle provides an effective firing range of up to 2200 meters. When using correctly selected cartridges, the manufacturer guarantees accuracy of rifle firing at a level of 0.2 - 0.3 arc minutes, which is at the level of the world's best sniper and target weapons. That is, roughly speaking, from such a rifle a sniper is guaranteed to hit a target the size of a soccer ball at a distance of more than two kilometers. Of course, the special services immediately seized upon the miracle designer. First of all, Russian. According to rumors, the president’s guards are now armed precisely with Lobaev’s rifles. However, Lobaev is a sportsman, and works mainly for the same athletes. Among snipers, it is believed that if a shooter with a Lobaev rifle is involved in the championship, then you can only fight for second place. And this is true - from the moment the company began to work, not a single major competition in sniping or benchrest in Russia was won by another rifle.
    In 2010, Lobaev hoped to sell weapons for one million dollars. However, he forgot that he lives in Russia.
    As you know, the main supplier of weapons in our country is Izhmash. It was he who began to "interfere" with Lobaev. Judging by the conversations among snipers, IzhMash received a lot of money from the Russian government to develop a new sniper rifle in .338 caliber. It was IzhMash who ensured that Lobaev's license was not renewed. As they say, the director of the department of industry of conventional weapons, ammunition and special chemistry, Alexander Potapov, laureate of the Russian government prize in the field of science and technology, did his best.
    Lobaev did not bang his head against the wall. In 2010, a couple of months before the bankruptcy of IzhMasha, Lobaev’s company in its entirety moved to the United Arab Emirates. All equipment was exported, as during the years of World War II. Just not for the Urals. A lot further. This is such a harsh historical truth.
    1. Chicot 1
      Chicot 1 30 December 2013 19: 06
      +1
      Quote: demotivator
      Lobaev's company in full force moved to the United Arab Emirates

      Then piss off...
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 30 December 2013 20: 01
        +1
        Quote: Chicot 1
        Then piss off...

        Jupiter, are you angry? So you're wrong!
        1. Chicot 1
          Chicot 1 31 December 2013 19: 33
          +3
          Quote: 11111mail.ru
          Jupiter, are you angry?

          I'm not angry, I'm just stating ...
          Quote: 11111mail.ru
          So you're wrong!

          ... and yet I am always right (if only because I am always right). What I wish you (in the new year), dear first three letters of place of birth...
          And yet your health ... drinks
    2. yur
      yur 30 December 2013 23: 14
      +2
      If this constructor emigrated, well, for example, to Belarus, I could understand and sympathize with him. But when a person leaves and transfers production to a clearly unfriendly country, I’m sorry, I won’t shed tears, because in Russia it became cleaner.
    3. michajlo
      michajlo 31 December 2013 17: 16
      0
      demotivator Yesterday, 16:22

      Great designer of sniper weapons LOBAEV
      Widely known among professional snipers, Vladislav Lobaev suffered a complete collapse in his attempts to wage war against thieves and emigrated to the United Arab Emirates ...


      Hello namesake!

      I completely agree with you that in this case, our country (Russia) has lost a talented designer and production worker.

      Alas, his name is unknown to me (I am a civil engineer), but my friend is an intelligent Slovak weapons designer and knows everything in the world in the field of small arms and I’ll ask him more about Lobaev.

      There were, such as Lobaev in Russia and other republics, and there will be many more.

      But the trouble is that in the space of the post-USSR no one is interested in the talents and security of the Homeland.

      All politicians and officials (with the exception of Lukashenko) have the notion of PATRIOTISM, alas, an abusive word, and only people remember it when speaking to voters once in 4 years ...

      Alas, now it’s not enough to have the talent and spark of God!

      Now useful is licking, servility, lies, slander and RIPPING of everything that sticky fingers of the new TOTAL HUSBAND reached for.

      But as the old proverb says, "There is nothing in the world for nothing, you MUST PAY for everything."

      And for the greed and venality of politicians and officials, and still inaction and weakness, we ordinary people will pay a high price when a big war breaks out and it turns out that OUR PEOPLE and our inventions and products are fighting against us ...

      But then it will be too late, and now our "talented managers" need to snatch MORE FOR YOURSELF, and just do not care at all and AT ALL !!!
    4. Cynic
      Cynic 31 December 2013 20: 48
      0
      Quote: demotivator
      Vladislav Lobaev suffered a complete collapse

      The strongest survives .
    5. bunta
      bunta 4 January 2014 19: 44
      0
      Great designer of sniper weapons LOBAEV

      You exaggerate this.

      Lobaev is a philosopher by education. Acquainted with benchrest abroad, got sick. As any Russian was concerned with the question "why not unas ?!" He mastered the basics of accurate shooting and weapon design, took out a loan and started production. I just studied the topic from Western textbooks, which resulted in a conflict of civilizations.
  27. builder74
    builder74 30 December 2013 19: 49
    +1
    [quote = Anguis] The sooner we realize that a real war is going on around us, the faster we will begin respectively. way of thinking and acting. Human thinking in conditions of hostilities and in conditions of peaceful life are two big differences [/ quot
    Absolutely agree! The world is over - appropriate decisions and actions are needed, without regard to the norms and laws of peacetime!
  28. Cherdak
    Cherdak 30 December 2013 21: 09
    +2
    such a t-shirt - in every family
    1. yur
      yur 30 December 2013 23: 18
      +2
      Only to inscriptions in Russian.
  29. Skynet
    Skynet 30 December 2013 21: 41
    +6
    I am from Volgograd, yesterday they rushed to the station, I just was in full akher! Well, so, because in the fall the bus took off into the air.
    This morning I turned on the telly, in the running line "explosion in a trolleybus, 10 dead", I thought that the "zhurnalyugi" got it wrong after yesterday. I turned on the radio station, and there the broadcast was broken! Full paragraph! Today the police have dispersed a small gangway against the black ... oops.
    Not a single policeman is visible in the city! GAI officers saw one. Went today all day.
    Min rushed to us. health care. Everyone immediately recovered. To this PR?
    The leader of the FSB arrived, revealed everything, then he immediately sat down, rolled his eyes and said that the terrariads are sitting at this address, and here they are collecting the bonbu.
    What a show !!!
    Really - nothing!
    No cops on the streets! Nobody pincers the hunchbacks!
    Today he rode, next to Prior, black, tinted to zero, who is there, what are they there? Cops cops!
    Sorry, just pent ...
    1. Svyatoslavovich
      Svyatoslavovich 31 December 2013 01: 11
      +2
      Don't apologize, that's it
  30. Arkan
    Arkan 31 December 2013 07: 28
    0
    Let the calonauts say, but do not speak! It’s not an hour, the Kalashnikov product will correct their brains, forever!
  31. michajlo
    michajlo 31 December 2013 17: 26
    0
    Hello!

    Our "sold-out" authors, all sorts of fables will write about the great citizen, designer, communist Kalashnikov more than once in the West and at home, they will find fault with him, call him a plagiarist, etc.

    But his talent, the ability in a simple design to achieve high RELIABILITY, STRENGTH, CHEAP PRODUCTION and FAILURE, no one will ever dispute!

    Himself, like many other worthy sons of our native UNION, we can all be proud of.

    And our respect and respect to Kalashanikov - no one will take away from us!

    And Kalashnikov himself will remain in history for many centuries, as the great RUSSIAN WEAPONS OF THE GREAT SOVIET UNION.

    Eternal memory to him and sincere condolences to his family and friends!
  32. Chever
    Chever 31 December 2013 23: 31
    +1
    Well, what can I say. "Well-wishers" will always hiss at the beautifully created things that were invented in our country ...
  33. konvalval
    konvalval 2 January 2014 18: 51
    0
    Quote: vanaheym
    Bury in pork skins. To not get to Allah.

    It’s a pity to let the pig out.
  34. HAM
    HAM 4 January 2014 16: 03
    0
    Yes, we agreed, tolerasts bend in front of the West, suddenly radio was invented in Italy, television in America, digital communication somewhere else (the base is Kotelnikov's theorem). As something goes from Russia, cries are heard: "copied, stolen! But where are they bast shoes!" It's time to shut up them. And Mikhail Timofeevich-SAMORODOK, one of the many RUSSIAN land.
  35. saygon66
    saygon66 4 January 2014 20: 04
    0
    - On one of the "striped" sites on weapons and crew, I saw an article on the death of MT Kalashnikov ... Surprisingly, most of the comments are written with respect, there is also with gratitude! The person who accused M.T. in the creation of the "murder weapon" they kicked pretty badly, advised to remember Henry Ford, whose products were also put to a lot of people ... Respect ... and these are garbage!
  36. Auditor
    Auditor 4 January 2014 20: 26
    0
    Exactly ... Tolerasts ...