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On the issue of the development of the Russian strategic nuclear forces. Point of view of the inhabitant

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It is probably no secret to anyone that the Strategic Nuclear Forces (SNF) is the main guarantee of Russia's sovereignty. And over the past two decades, their role has only increased, because in the field of conventional weapons, we have essentially lost ground (both quantitatively and, in places, qualitatively). Thus, the preservation of strategic nuclear forces is a paramount task for the military-political leadership. It is quite obvious that it is aware of this (it can be seen at least from the costs of the LG). But there is a noticeable difference between awareness and realization. Not everything is decided only by money. It is necessary to set adequate goals and to achieve them. And this is not just the execution of the budget ...


The author is not a specialist, just trying to give his subjective assessment of the information that spills over us in the media. He was led to this unceasing discussion, leading to two different conclusions: either everything is very bad, or everything is very good. Let's figure it out.



Strategic Missile Forces
So, the Russian strategic nuclear forces contain 3 components: ground, sea and air. The basis is ground, represented by the Strategic Missile Forces (they have approximately 70% of warheads of their total number). What has been done in recent years for the Strategic Missile Forces in terms of rearmament? Based on publications in the media - very much. Thus, in the 2012 year, according to the commander of the Strategic Missile Forces, S. Karakaev, the share of modern ICBMs in the Strategic Missile Forces reached a third. The indicator could be considered outstanding if it were not for the “but” series. For example, some analysts have indicated that not a third, but a quarter has been updated (about 90 from 380). In addition, it is not clear what is considered a new rocket. For example, from 60 mine "Topol-M" more than 30 have already crossed the 10-summer milestone. Although this, of course, is not age (compared to the “normal” mobile Topol 80).

But the main thing is hidden between the lines. It is important not only the number of new carriers, but also the number of warheads capable of accommodating them. And with “Topol” everything is simple. One rocket - one monoblock warhead. Total 60 "mine" plus 18 "mobile" = 78 warheads.

Basically, the reason for "monoblock" lay in the agreements between the USSR and the USA as early as the 80s. We will not go into details - this is different история... But, one way or another, the modern Yarsy (and the promising Frontiers) are equipped with just the FER (probably, according to 3 BB per rocket). It is easy to calculate that the 18 “Yars” = 54 warheads. Can "Yarsy" and "Frontiers" become the basis of the Strategic Missile Forces, as is often said so now? Theoretically, yes. Well, almost ... depending on what you mean by foundation. So far, they carry only 10% of the total number of strategic missile warheads. And the main carriers of warheads are heavy liquid ICBMs. P-36М2 carries up to 10 BB similar BB "Topol", and UR-100N UTTH - to 6 BB. In other words, about 120 missiles are carried under 1000 warheads. Accordingly, for the complete replacement of old missiles, it is necessary to produce more 300 light-grade missiles (such as "Yars"). This figure is not exorbitant (given that 2014 promises more 20 missiles), but is this approach appropriate in the context of the US-created global missile defense? And the power of each BB on Yars will be less (obviously not according to 500 Kt).

The indisputable advantage of heavy MBR is the large throw weight. This allows not only to increase the number of BBs or their power, but also to place a large number of means of overcoming missile defense. These missiles also have disadvantages. The main thing is the price. Liquid rockets are usually more expensive than solid propellants. And given the difference in size - even more so. But, on the other hand, mobile complexes are also not so cheap. Operating costs, depreciation of equipment and the associated lower life cycle are also an argument. Most likely, because of the economy, the “mine” Topol-M appeared. But they are deprived of the main dignity of the Topolins - the relative secrecy.

So without a heavy rocket, probably not enough. It is created. According to media reports, it will appear by the end of this decade. The only thing that is known about it is the weight (of the order of 100 t). Thus, in terms of parameters, it is closer to UR-100Н УТТХ, and not to 200-ton Р-36М2. Of course, for many it will be a reason for criticism, they say, "it was better before, but now they can do nothing." Only now, it is counterproductive to measure “who has a bigger rocket”. Probably, we are just seeing a reasonable compromise "throw weight / price."

If all plans are implemented, then the main strike force of the Strategic Missile Forces will still remain heavy liquid ICBMs (several dozen). Well, the most massive will be just solid light. Partly - mobile, part - mine. There is also information about the revival of combat railway missile systems (BZHRK), but so far these are only plans for the future ...

Navy
The naval component of the SNF has long been a topic for violent disputes. And the reason for this - "Mace". It became a kind of “Solomon solution” (in the literal and figurative sense) after the cancellation of the Bark project. There are a lot of complaints about the Bulava. And relatively "modest" characteristics, and "legendary" reliability.
It seems that the main problem is reliability. We are facing a paradoxical situation. The carriers (nuclear submarine pr. 955 "Borey") have already actually entered the series, but there is no reliable missile. Accordingly, there is no COMPLEX.

At the moment the situation is not catastrophic. The strategic nuclear submarines of the 667BDRM and the BDR were repaired and upgraded under the R-29RMU2 “Sineva”. Thus, some time is still there, but it is getting smaller.

There is a point of view that the Bulava project should be closed. In this regard, often express different proposals. Then adapt the "Blue" under the "Borea", then return the famous "Shark" (!) And develop a heavy liquid-based rocket based on the P-39 for them. All these plans are unrealistic both in terms of time and financially. The only option is to bring the Bulava to the required reliability, replacing the current strategic missile carriers with the Boreas.

As for the characteristics of the rocket - it is a matter of specialists The rocket was created for the purposes for which it was created, and it has those characteristics that were presented to it at the stage of development of the TK. Fundamentally here is another: the ability of the COMPLEX (Borey and Mace) to perform the function of nuclear deterrence. It seems that he is capable of this (when the Bulava is brought). Yes, the alternative is less impressive than the Sharks, but the only possible one. I repeat, it is not necessary to measure rockets, for it is meaningless.

Air force
Concerning aviation component of the nuclear triad, then everything is pretty foggy.

It seems to be a modernization of the existing fleet of strategic missile carriers. However, based on the pace and slippage, it can be concluded - there is also not all simple. Yes, and their number of aircraft is not so large - about 45-50 machines.

One gets the impression that less attention is paid to the air component of the SNF than to the others. Perhaps this is due to the fact that the timing of its updates shifted over the 2020 year. (PAK YES promise to 2025). The only relatively recent project can be considered a new cruise missile X-102, which seems to have even been adopted. The question is only in the mass character of its delivery to the troops. But, probably, it is associated with the modernization of the missile carriers themselves. In general, the topic is complex and only for specialists. One thing is clear, by the year of 2025, the Air Force must also receive a new COMPLEX - an aircraft and its armament, and not just one thing. Otherwise, we can repeat the story of the Bulava, which is fraught with problems.

Thus, the situation with domestic strategic nuclear forces cannot be considered unambiguously good or bad. At least from the point of view of the inhabitant. There are pluses, there are minuses. Probably not allowed any fatal errors at the level of strategy. The main problem now is the implementation of the plans. Difficulties arise in the executive discipline, and in the economy. Figuratively speaking, the main problem is not how many hundreds of kilograms the Bulava casts, but whether it can do this reliably and whether it will be in service with the right amount. In general, as always, time will tell everything ...

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  1. Christian
    Christian 10 December 2013 08: 19
    +6
    Strengthening strategic nuclear forces for Russia is an axiom. But now the development of intermediate and shorter-range nuclear forces is coming to the fore - China must "sleep well"!
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 10 December 2013 08: 29
      0
      Quote: Christian
      China should "sleep well"!

      And why do we need this?
      1. Christian
        Christian 10 December 2013 09: 22
        +1
        Reassure China.
      2. Botanologist
        Botanologist 10 December 2013 22: 50
        0
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        China should "sleep well"!
        And why do we need this?


        Can you imagine two billion restlessly sleeping Chinese? Why do we need this.
    2. Canep
      Canep 10 December 2013 08: 33
      +5
      BZHRK urgently needs to be restored. As a basis, you can take the Mace, weighs 37 tons, a length of 13 m. 10 warheads. It fits perfectly into the railway gauge and fits perfectly in weight. The wagons of the refrigerated train will not be any different from the real ones, 4 freight wagons - 4 PU missiles, a generator wagon - KP. And let them ride all over the country. You don’t even have to put the officer in the driver’s cab, you can stop the train by relieving the pressure in the brake line passing through the entire train. And then launching is not a problem.
      1. Evgeniy46
        Evgeniy46 10 December 2013 11: 15
        10
        BZHRK restore. A friend from the disbanded 52 Tarnopol Division of the Strategic Rocket Forces says that one squad was assembled. Without rockets or with them - does not speak
        1. operrus
          operrus 10 December 2013 15: 31
          0
          The question is how to move around the country if we have in our territory there are 6 US seismic stations. Which fix any large tonnage.
        2. operrus
          operrus 10 December 2013 15: 31
          +1
          The question is how to move around the country if we have in our territory there are 6 US seismic stations. Which fix any large tonnage.
          1. Nick
            Nick 10 December 2013 17: 54
            +4
            Quote: operrus
            The question is how to move around the country if we have in our territory there are 6 US seismic stations. Which fix any large tonnage.

            let them fix it, if the weight of the rocket is 13 tons, then this is not a large tonnage. If my memory serves me right, the average tonnage of loading a railway car is about 30 tons, and the full one is 60 tons. Tired to fix ... laughing
            1. andr327
              andr327 10 December 2013 20: 00
              0
              But under the BZHRK, ways to cook are also needed. And this is not a penny and is controlled by a specialist from the train window. There is one plus Russian Railways will be able to improve the quality of its roads at the expense of Moscow Region, but include this in the prices of our tickets.
              There are not so many ready-made paths, so there’s no need to talk about terrible stealth.
    3. washi
      washi 10 December 2013 12: 10
      +2
      Quote: Christian
      Strengthening strategic nuclear forces for Russia is an axiom. But now the development of intermediate and shorter-range nuclear forces is coming to the fore - China must "sleep well"!

      And here is China?
      EU countries AND JAPAN KOREA OBLIGED TO KNOW: rockets are aimed at YOU. Withdraw troops of the USA, otherwise it will fly
      You can also add the Gulf countries and Israel, which redirects Islamist militants to US
    4. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 11 December 2013 04: 06
      +1
      while we think that amers X-37v has been flying in space for a year now, and what is unknown on board.
  2. makarov
    makarov 10 December 2013 08: 20
    +1
    Maybe the author is like a philistine in his assessments and rights. By the way, the word philistine is translated from Polish as "citizen".
    At the same time, having no knowledge in the manufacture and operation of aircraft and tanks, I always try to avoid value judgments, since I am not a specialist.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 10 December 2013 09: 00
      0
      Quote: makarov
      Maybe the author as a layman in his assessments and rights

      More likely no than yes. We get a very, very superficial info of everything that concerns nuclear weapons. Everything else is under the heading. It does not make sense to draw any conclusions on an existing info because there is essentially no information.
      1. Canep
        Canep 10 December 2013 10: 26
        0
        Greetings Alexander hi
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        It does not make sense to build any conclusions on the available infe because in fact there is no information.

        It may happen that the existing info is misinformation.
        1. Onyx
          Onyx 10 December 2013 10: 32
          0
          Quote: Canep
          It may happen that the existing info is misinformation.

          Infa about the characteristics, of course, is not fully true. And the amount is reflected in the START treaty.
        2. andr327
          andr327 10 December 2013 20: 02
          +1
          but judging by today's speech Shoigu, at least in numerical terms, is very similar to the truth
      2. little man
        little man 10 December 2013 11: 39
        0
        Both supporters of solid fuel and liquid rockets are very convincing, it is very difficult to understand all this. I liked the article:
        http://nuclearno.ru/text.asp?15482
  3. Volkhov
    Volkhov 10 December 2013 08: 32
    0
    In the photo for the article, old installations - with Soviet numbers and without American blocking (yellow tape on the container lid to the bumper) - what "enemy" orders to have, such strategic nuclear forces will be. Now they have switched to launching on a digital signal with minimal participation of calculations - they claim that the signal is from the General Staff, only there are radio waves released.
    1. Onyx
      Onyx 10 December 2013 10: 15
      +1
      Quote: Volkhov
      without American blocking (yellow tape on the container lid to the bumper) - what the "enemy" orders to have, such strategic nuclear forces will be.

      Well, you are a dreamer however. What kind of tapes are you talking about? Post a photo with such ribbons
      1. Volkhov
        Volkhov 10 December 2013 10: 31
        -1
        Kevlar tape to the trailer on the bumper. Near the Russian / Soviet trailer with a steel cable.
        1. Onyx
          Onyx 10 December 2013 10: 35
          0
          what's the point in this ribbon?
          1. Colonel
            Colonel 10 December 2013 11: 58
            +3
            When the transport and launch container rises to the firing position, the hood fires back. That he would fall where it is necessary and this ribbon is required.
            1. Onyx
              Onyx 10 December 2013 12: 09
              0
              Quote: colonel
              When the transport and launch container rises to the firing position, the hood fires back. That he would fall where it is necessary and this ribbon is required.

              What happens if the cap falls a meter to the right or left?
              1. Rus2012
                Rus2012 10 December 2013 12: 31
                +1
                Quote: Onyx
                What happens if the cap falls a meter to the right or left?

                The lid / cap shoots back when the TPK is still horizontal. A cable - so that it does not roll off or fall out of place. This is just for insurance ...
                1. Onyx
                  Onyx 10 December 2013 12: 41
                  -1
                  Quote: Rus2012
                  A cable - so that it does not roll off or fall out of place. This is just for insurance ...

                  All this looks clumsy somehow. They would still be tied with electrical tape
                  1. andr327
                    andr327 10 December 2013 20: 10
                    +2
                    and this cable-ribbon is very good as cables for a personal car. I remember he was shooting this from Pioneer after launch. He overtook the polygons as they were upset then: the green lieutenant deprived of the booty. wink
          2. Volkhov
            Volkhov 10 December 2013 12: 16
            -4
            Quote: Onyx
            what's the point in this ribbon?

            It is written above - the tape to the limit switch - when you try to lift the container there is a signal. Start must be allowed. Previously, there was only a Soviet block, now 2.
            1. Colonel
              Colonel 10 December 2013 12: 32
              0
              Probably not a meter. Enlarge the photo at the beginning of the article (Poplar) and evaluate the cable and fasteners.
            2. Onyx
              Onyx 10 December 2013 12: 39
              0
              Quote: Volkhov
              It is written above - the tape to the limit switch - when you try to lift the container there is a signal. Start must be allowed. Previously, there was only a Soviet block, now 2.

              Well, I’m saying that you are a dreamer.
              1. Volkhov
                Volkhov 10 December 2013 15: 47
                +1
                The excuse about the "cap" is another impromptu agitator, who does not even know the name of the node, but you can see with your eyes that the tape goes to the very container at the top.
                The previous excuse was that the tape was needed to reset the camouflage net.
                The sad reality is that the United States is fighting with our hands - the result is for them, the answer is ... like in a fairy tale about tops and roots.
        2. Moore
          Moore 10 December 2013 19: 39
          +2
          Dear Volkhov, what you call "American ribbon" is actually a device for triggering the ILC disconnect cord. On duty, it is docked to the bumper, the march is disconnected and thrown by the crew somewhere, so that it does not interfere and, God forbid, it does not work.
          Your opinion on the type of signal and "release of radio waves from the General Staff" is definitely FIVE.
          1. Volkhov
            Volkhov 11 December 2013 04: 19
            -1
            Well, here is the version of the great rocket men Rus * a and the colonist about "insurance for the cap" and was overcome. It is recognized that the tape goes to the disconnector (limit switch).
            Questions remain - why did they use the cable before (and it stayed), and then added the tape from the imported material? The car in the photo and others with the tape did not stand at all somewhere, but rode or left to shoot for journalists, so that the removal on the march remains invisible.
            My opinion on the form of the control signal is not mine, but taken from the self-promotion of the Moscow Oblast regarding the new launch system on Borei - I did not try to intercept the signal, it is the Persians who can land unmanned aerial vehicles. Probably, at the top, they believe that it is better not to trust the Russian missile launch, let it do the radio.
            1. Moore
              Moore 11 December 2013 05: 25
              0
              If you don't mind, the KMP switch is never the end switch, and the KMP is the Set of Overlapping Masks. In the author’s photo, the APU goes without an ILC, respectively, and there is no cable to the bumper.
              On your photo, the ILC is routinely laid on the TPK, respectively, and there is a cable to the bumper.
              The metal cable has nothing to do with the topic - it belongs to the TPK cap. It exists by itself, just like the opening device. Both "devices" have been in place since the adoption of the mobile "Topol" into service.
    2. military
      military 10 December 2013 13: 00
      +5
      Quote: Volkhov
      a signal from the General Staff, only there they release radio waves.

      there they often release "unexpected" ...
    3. andr327
      andr327 10 December 2013 20: 06
      +1
      But the combat control system is a secret behind seven seals. And here no one will be spread to the public. This is a question that costs much more than various TTX missiles and systems.
  4. Sterlya
    Sterlya 10 December 2013 08: 45
    +2
    the main thing. so that in the case (God forbid) of course thermonuclear war, not a single Americanosos and Euroguy survive. who knows, maybe some tribe will survive in the jungle. and if any of these 3.14 owls survives, then the development of mankind will again go the wrong way
  5. Stiletto
    Stiletto 10 December 2013 08: 56
    +1
    "In general, as always, time will tell ..."

    - It's right. God forbid, it will show ... For then little will not seem to anyone - neither gay mattresses, nor people who have the right orientation for themselves.
  6. taseka
    taseka 10 December 2013 09: 09
    +1
    Oooh! If these Blues, Boreas, Maces and Poplars with Yars fly in! Khan will be everything - complete and bad! We understand this, they understand it too!"In general, as always, time will tell ..."
  7. lotar
    lotar 10 December 2013 09: 11
    +3
    In our country, it’s not diarrhea, it's scrofula. It is clear that many of the necessary programs are slipping and there is nothing surprising in this regard. There is the notorious human factor, somewhere technological, and somewhere financial, etc. But there’s no harm without good, we still move on. Only the one who does nothing makes no mistakes. At least I believe that in the near future our country will be the locomotive of the scientific and technological revolution. And in this matter, our task is not only to scold everyone government, people around us and the whole world, and causeway to each other in the development of our state in this way.
  8. JackTheRipper
    JackTheRipper 10 December 2013 09: 15
    +2
    Well what can I say? In my opinion, the main problem of the present time is the rather slow development of the Bulava, because we have ready-made SSBNs, but we do not have SLBMs for them.
    As for the component of the Strategic Missile Forces, it’s more or less normal - an additional 2014 ICBMs are scheduled for delivery in 22, and 22 ICBMs are essentially no less, and the 22 largest cities are comparable in size to such megacities:
  9. discard
    discard 10 December 2013 09: 20
    -10 qualifying.
    If SNF is "the main guarantee of Russia's sovereignty," then why do we need a million-strong mobilization army.
    Are we preparing for the third World War, or are we going to "force peace" on someone?
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 10 December 2013 14: 09
      0
      Quote: discard
      If SNF is "the main guarantee of Russia's sovereignty," then why do we need a million-strong mobilization army.
      Are we preparing for the third World War, or are we going to "force peace" on someone?

      No need to lay eggs in one basket. One must be prepared for everything.
  10. Belogor
    Belogor 10 December 2013 09: 23
    +1
    In life, I’m used to value the opinion of professionals who are competent and preferably independent in their opinions. Unfortunately, the reverse picture has prevailed in recent years, everyone writes about everything either because of some interests or irrepressible graphomania, and the latter have divorced unmeasured.
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 10 December 2013 12: 43
      0
      Quote: Belogor
      they write everything about everything, either because of some interests or irrepressible graphomania, and the latter divorced unmeasured.

      ... I agree, everyone imagines himself an expert after reading a military encyclopedia or having played enough warcraft or similar games :))) Hence the term went - "lying like an eyewitness" :)))))))))))
      But real specialists, as a rule, are silent. He himself would also be silent, but only fellow soldiers pushed. Like we leave, what remains? False information about our glorious deeds ...
      It would be okay, even these suckers, who did not even carry personal weapons in the troops, have, as it were, "their own opinion" on how to build the Armed Forces, the Air Force and the Navy, along with the Strategic Missile Forces :))))))))
  11. AK-47
    AK-47 10 December 2013 09: 41
    0
    Strategic Nuclear Forces (SNF) are the main guarantee of Russia's sovereignty. ... maintaining the strategic nuclear forces is a paramount task for the military-political leadership.
    The leadership of the Russian Federation is responsible for the country's nuclear safety, I would like to be sure that it is fully aware of this.
    1. Onyx
      Onyx 10 December 2013 10: 17
      +1
      Quote: AK-47
      The leadership of the Russian Federation is responsible for the country's nuclear safety, I would like to be sure that it is fully aware of this.

      Be sure and sleep peacefully - it is fully aware of this.
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 10 December 2013 16: 26
      +1
      Quote: AK-47
      Russian leadership is responsible for the country's nuclear safety

      I am reporting to the citizens of the Republic of Belarus: in the Russian Federation, the State Corporation "RosAtom" is responsible for nuclear safety. The military has the RChBZ service, in the construction - Rosatomnadzor. Your expression ... is incorrect, maybe. the country's leadership is responsible for the (defense) security of the Russian Federation, an integral part of which is: economic, military, etc. ... and he has someone to ask specifically for each type of security.
  12. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 10 December 2013 10: 05
    0
    Quote: "Thus, the situation with the domestic strategic nuclear forces cannot be considered unequivocally good or bad. At least from the point of view of the layman."
    To discuss the state of domestic strategic nuclear forces, from the point of view of the layman, is simply nonsense. Or a waste of time. In order to make a substantive analysis of the state of development of nuclear potential, you need to have complete information, plans and development prospects, etc. Naturally, this is strictly classified information at the level of "special importance". Then what to talk about? Over the past time, this is the third article about domestic strategic nuclear forces. It may be better to discuss those issues of military development that are available in open media.
    1. Colonel
      Colonel 10 December 2013 12: 00
      0
      the situation with domestic strategic nuclear forces cannot be considered unambiguously good or bad
      Amazing conclusion. And what situation in our country can be considered unambiguously good or bad (excluding the "landing" of Serdyukov) winked .
  13. Kyrgyz
    Kyrgyz 10 December 2013 10: 34
    +1
    Tell me, is the air component of the strategic nuclear forces in the form of bombers relevant today? they are absolutely open to the enemy at the time of preparation for flight take-off, the personnel are expensive and piecey, the service and cost are also high and piecey, can it be more reasonable for strategists to remake them for using the WTO and leave the nuclear components on land rail and sea?
    1. Onyx
      Onyx 10 December 2013 10: 59
      +3
      Quote: Kyrgyz
      Tell me, is the air component of the strategic nuclear forces in the form of bombers relevant today? they are absolutely open to the enemy at the time of preparation for flight take-off, the personnel are expensive and piecey, the service and cost are also high and piecey, can it be more reasonable for strategists to remake them for using the WTO and leave the nuclear components on land rail and sea?

      This would be reasonable, but strategic bombers can be used to put pressure on other nuclear countries by lifting them into the air, because you won’t be able to recall the missiles back, and the planes can be recalled.
    2. Rus2012
      Rus2012 10 December 2013 12: 49
      +1
      Quote: Kyrgyz
      Tell me, is the air component of the strategic nuclear forces in the form of bombers relevant today?

      To begin with, YES is multifunctional. It can carry ordinary bombs, KR in conventional equipment ... Just conduct reconnaissance and sentinel functions. Even carry out international peace missions - flights to Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Vietnam ... And much more ...
      So, there is a place to be ...
      1. Kyrgyz
        Kyrgyz 10 December 2013 19: 29
        0
        Quote: Rus2012
        To begin with, YES is multifunctional.

        I'm not talking about YES, I'm talking about nuclear equipment YES
        1. Rus2012
          Rus2012 11 December 2013 15: 04
          0
          Quote: Kyrgyz
          I'm not talking about YES, I'm talking about nuclear equipment YES

          Well, about nuclear weapons ...
          To begin with, that YES also carries a certain part of the database. Those. an outfit of forces is allocated for the database (on the ground). In the case of receiving a signal, the duty forces are the first to load nuclear weapons (in our case, as a rule, KR) and take off ...
          From this moment on, they are practically invulnerable. Those. firstly, it is not known where they are, and secondly, they launch missile launchers outside the air defense coverage areas (for 2,5-5,5 thousand km). Well, their second important and jewelry task is to "clean up" the remaining single point targets. When air defense is completely suppressed ...
      2. andr327
        andr327 10 December 2013 20: 19
        0
        Yes, the air component is the most striking opportunity to play with muscles. This bandura flies around the world and what is known to one god and the General Staff on board (and even UFOs can control it).
  14. shurup
    shurup 10 December 2013 11: 02
    +1
    From the layman’s point of view, I’ll also say that Russia set specific deadlines for the combat readiness of the Armed Forces in front of the REV, First and Second MVs. All three started earlier, because the opponents did not want to wait.
    Since then I do not like verbs in the future tense with the subjunctive mood.
  15. Nike
    Nike 10 December 2013 12: 01
    0
    Will there be time? will not repeat 41?
    1. washi
      washi 10 December 2013 12: 15
      +1
      Quote: nike
      Will there be time? will not repeat 41?

      If you do not start a civil war on the outskirts, then there will not be a world one. And time depends on YOU
    2. Rus2012
      Rus2012 10 December 2013 12: 55
      +1
      Quote: nike
      Will there be time? will not repeat 41?

      In order not to repeat the 41st, the Strategic Missile Forces stand in 2-4 minutes of readiness ... And the "Dead Hand", just in case ...
      There is even a saying on this score: "God created people different, Colonel Colt equalized their rights, and the" Dead Hand "gave the peoples hope for the future!"
      1. andr327
        andr327 10 December 2013 20: 21
        +2
        but about "Dead Hand" - this is from the field of command and control, and we know nothing about it, only rumors.
  16. HollyGremlin
    HollyGremlin 10 December 2013 12: 23
    0
    It’s interesting that our agreements with the Americans limit the number of missiles and warheads, and how do they regulate the thrown mass? And it may make sense to greatly increase it. Then even if 1 rocket arrives, it will not seem a little. And how the issue of the type of charges is regulated: thermonuclear filling or not. In general, it seems to me that all this is a fiction treaty and, just in case, would have kept the doomsday device at hand.
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 10 December 2013 13: 18
      0
      Quote: HollyGremlin
      And how the issue of the type of charges is regulated: thermonuclear filling or not.

      It seems in any way :)
      Although there were rumors that they had secretly agreed not to keep the BB over 10mt ... :)))
      Mb somewhere fixed ...
      Read the Memoirs of Yu.V. Karyagin, employee of the military-industrial complex of the CM of the USSR (1969-1991),
      "TO THE QUESTION ABOUT NON-NUCLEAR" CUT-OFF "or something little-known about medium-range missiles"
  17. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov 10 December 2013 13: 39
    +2
    Slowly rockets float away
    do not wait for a meeting with them
    and although America is a little sorry
    Europe is ahead
    Maybe we offended someone in vain
    threw 15 megatons,
    and now the earth burns and melts
    where the pentagon used to be
    1. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 10 December 2013 21: 46
      0
      Tablecloth-tablecloth binary gas spreads
      And it rests against my gas mask
      Every commando believes in the best
      A landmine is slowly falling .... wassat laughing
      Nice song! good
  18. Altona
    Altona 10 December 2013 14: 46
    +2
    I think that we will get America in any way ... Boreas with Clubs, Topolis, BZHRK ... It does not matter ... They expected that by today our nuclear shield would die of rust ... They did not wait, and in the future did not wait and let them dream 1983 forever, this eternal The Hunt for Red October, so that they die of psychosis ...
  19. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 10 December 2013 16: 54
    +2
    The layman is the layman. He is interested, and those few who know (but are silent) must somehow reassure him, reassure him, and disbelieve in error.
    And the power of each BB on the Yars will be less (obviously not according to 500 Kt).

    But this does not mean that he is worse: his accuracy should be. above, and this, according to the "square" formula, will provide the same effect as with 0,5 Mt BB.
    So without a heavy rocket, probably not enough. She is created.

    That's for sure. But this is not only the weight, the number of BBs, the means to overcome missile defense. It is also an opportunity to create a GLOBAL ICBM, which, bypassing the agreement on banning the deployment of nuclear weapons in space, after launch, can fly for a long time, attack the target from the desired azimuth, etc.
    "Different missiles are needed, different missiles are important" Therefore, the dispute about whether solid fuel or liquid is needed is about nothing. The lungs break through and suppress the missile defense system in the first batch, while the heavy ones work on the "area", and especially important, protected targets, somehow it was, "if the cook doesn't lie to us!" (C).
    YES - a very necessary and important thing! On the third day, if she survives, she will say her weighty word. By this time, the ICBMs should be over. The satellite will probably not be either.
  20. I think so
    I think so 10 December 2013 18: 14
    -6
    The author of the article is really a COMPLETE BAD in the issue under discussion, but all the same climbs, with his childhood emissions on this topic. Especially about "Bulava". The rocket has been gone for 22 years (!); Serial missiles are ALL boakovanny and IN PRINCIPLE can not fly, and the author gundosit - there is no other way out how to bring this shit to mind. But is this scribe and his superiors in the mind who have thought to write this. I think not myself. "Bulava" will not be ready to fly for another 20 years, "Topol" - a missile similar to a mace, the same MOST OF ALL does not fly (although it is in service). Nobody checks "Poplar" with periodic launches, and "Poplar" and "Bulava" - one field of MIT berries ... I think if you launch an arbitrarily selected "Poplar" from those in service with a probability of 50% it WILL NOT FLY. Therefore, the authorities do not check them with test runs - an ostrich with its head in the sand. And the author is empty-handed about the security of Russia. It's time to go to surrender. By the way, what the authorities demonstrate is the surrender of all their own and allies and sympathetic and neutral states. The surrender and disarmament of Syria - presented as a diplomatic victory - horror! As soon as these weapons are removed from Syria, the pi.ndos will begin an intervention the next day ... and all "thanks" to the Russian leadership ...
    1. andr327
      andr327 10 December 2013 20: 30
      +4
      why so sad! Poplars are shot every year, and to your regret without failures (this is still Soviet production, where a 5-7-fold supply of everything, including the resource, was laid). This is even surprising for the rocketers themselves. But the Mace, so Solomon did not take up his own. Land and sea are very different. How is it in the proverb about the shoemaker and the pastry maker?
    2. Onyx
      Onyx 10 December 2013 20: 48
      0
      Quote: I think so
      Especially about "Bulava". There is no rocket for 22 years (!)

      How can refinement go for 22 years if the rocket began to be developed only in 1998?
      Quote: I think so
      "Poplar" - a missile similar to a mace, the same MOST OF ALL does not fly (although it is in service). Nobody checks "Poplar" with periodic launches, and "Poplar" and "Bulava" - one field of MIT berries ... I think if you launch an arbitrarily selected "Poplar" from those in service with a probability of 50% it WILL NOT FLY. Therefore, the authorities do not check them with test runs - an ostrich with its head in the sand.

      Yes, you are just idle talk. Video of Topol launches (launched annually by 1 rocket in order to extend the resource. All flights without failures):


      1. vasiliysxx
        vasiliysxx 10 December 2013 22: 29
        0
        even on TV her terrible power is felt belay
  21. AlexA
    AlexA 10 December 2013 18: 30
    +2
    Something was recalled by the PMC of the Main Command of the General-Registrar Rodin. Because of him, the groundmen, flyers and sailors made fun of our brother: "Ah .. these are the troops of one blow and three notebooks ..."
    Nothing ... And one blow would be enough.
  22. alone
    alone 10 December 2013 19: 29
    0
    updating and strengthening the strategic nuclear forces is a very important work on the strategic security of the country. and you don’t need money for that. yes, and if you think about it, the other members of the Nuclear Club didn’t fall asleep as marmots. .
  23. Moore
    Moore 10 December 2013 19: 52
    +1
    The article is quite robust.
    The aforementioned "skews" in the direction of monoblock "Topol-M" not from a good life, I think, and not from miscalculations. Stupidly there was no money. Generally speaking, it was the development of the 90s, taking into account the famine of that time and the absence of inter-republican cooperation - everything was made in Russia. Well, except for MZKT. An intermediate, so to speak, option, which due to circumstances has become the main one.
    I think the development of a stable Strategic Missile Forces system, built on the "triad" - OS, PGRK, BZHRK - is not far off.
  24. andr327
    andr327 10 December 2013 20: 36
    +3
    And the main problem of the Strategic Missile Forces is the lack of qualified personnel, and especially in the upper command, where, alas, the scum of the 90s remained in the majority. You can scold me, puts minuses, this part of the command, alas, is more concerned about your ass than about the combat readiness. sad
    And the article is good because after all someone is at least worried. A plus!
  25. pawel1961
    pawel1961 10 December 2013 21: 31
    +1
    the main problem is traitors.