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He is only Putin

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After Forbes magazine named President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin the most influential person on the planet, I remembered an article in a Finnish newspaper that was published many years ago. It was material on why the Finns do not have the right to vote in the presidential elections of the Russian Federation, although the Russian president affects the life of the Finns more than the president of Finland. I note that this was the position of the leading Finnish newspaper.


He is only Putin


Interesting. The material came out almost 10 years ago, when Putin was already in power. Such a text is proof that Putin’s influence at that time was already larger and wider than the borders of Russia. But then the world did not know who he really was.

He knows today. The latest events prove that, together with Putin, Russia's influence and prestige have grown much higher than the authority of an organization like the UN, which could not solve the problem of Syria. And the Russian president could. He practically prevented the attack of the United States and NATO on Syria and thus prevented the start of the third world war. And Putin’s moral position in relation to Syria is much higher than that of opponents of Russia, who at the same time support terrorists in the fight against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and demand immediate military intervention.

Putin’s initiative has proven that he not only protects Syria from the aggression of the United States and NATO, but also protects the sovereignty of any nation, as well as the will of the people of any democracy.

Putin is interesting in that, unlike most Western politicians, he does not play the role of president. He is only Putin. Many other presidents behave like actors at best, and like robots at worst. It often seems that the President of France or the Prime Minister of Great Britain, for example, has a life completely separate from that on the stage. Obama is a completely new actor on stage, but he plays his part in a mask. His mask is a way to hide a real, much more rigid policy. At the same time, the viewer can say that Putin behaves at home. He can normally smile, joke or laugh. And all this he does absolutely spontaneously, as does any person in a good mood.

Therefore, it is very difficult to hate Putin. All his political enemies and opponents can easily expose themselves to clowns. For example, recently it became known that the so-called non-systemic opposition of Russia has no political program. It was absurd.

There is a feeling that the Russian president always expresses his opinion. This is also surprising and unprecedented. Putin, for example, organizes press conferences, during which he answers questions from journalists and the people live for hours on end. Other politicians tried to imitate this, but often they simply did not succeed, because they often do not have their own opinions.

Why? Because in the West the president is a politician who repeats the words of his sponsors. He cannot express his opinion.

Putin is an experienced manager, unlike Western leaders, who are mostly professional collectors of campaign sponsorship.

Another problem for Western colleagues is that Putin is defending Russia's national interests. It can be seen everywhere and in everything. Western presidents fear that their people will also begin to demand protection from them for their national interests.

Some experts, long before the start of the elections, began to accuse Russia that all its future elections were falsified in advance. Then in Russia they organized another unprecedented experiment: video surveillance was installed at all polling stations, and any person on the planet could watch the election process online. Already, all Western presidents and politicians are in shock. They fear that their people will also demand online video monitoring of the elections. How will the sponsors respond to this? In the US, for example, no one can check how these “selective” computers operate and what programs they have.

By this Putin, of course, represents a certain threat for the Western states. A lawyer by training, he likes compliance with laws and international conventions. And this, in turn, does not like his Western colleagues, who are used to doing everything in their own way. But even more dangerous is the fact that Putin is really popular not only in Russia, but also abroad.

At the same time, Putin is almost impossible to compare with other rulers of Russia or leaders of other countries. It seems that he does not compare himself with anyone. This is a good example: why should a person constantly compare himself with someone?

Naturally, he looks good against the background of Yeltsin or Gorbachev. But their background was different. Gorbachov was against the background of the USSR, Yeltsin was against the background of the ruins of the USSR. Putin’s peculiarity is that his background is Russia. So Putin is a man against the background of Russia.

Putin’s main danger is that he is a normal Russian person. This is his main threat to the West. After all, this means that he will normalize Russia. The only role in which Russia feels natural is the role of the Empire.

Russia cannot be a nationalist, mono-ethnic state, otherwise it will disintegrate as a state. Therefore, one of Putin’s main tasks is to eliminate bourgeois nationalism. In Russia, there is practically no Russian nationalism, unlike all European countries, which are practically so-called national states. In Russia, there is a healthy patriotism, which in the West does not exist.

As the famous Russian scientist, American professor Daniel Rancourt-Laferiere writes, the term “Russian Federation” “mysteriously sounds like a temporary one.” The patriotism of today's Russia is the patriotism of a new multinational, multi-confessional empire. Therefore, to normalize Russia is to create a Eurasian Empire, which has nothing to do with Russian nationalism. We see here a multi-confessional, multi-ethnic state, which is built on the principles of free market relations and equality between people.

It is worth remembering the former CIA officer and whistleblower of US global espionage Edward Snowden, who became a milestone in Putin’s career. After all, Snowden showed by his example that if earlier people were looking for a better life in the West, now they are looking for it in the East.

By the way, I wonder why there is no Lavrov in the Forbes list, but only Putin? After all, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov is also one of the most influential people on the planet. His influence is greater than the influence of some chancellors and prime ministers. To be honest, Lavrov also needs to be added to this list, and it was biased to put only one person from Russia in the list. Apparently, in this way, the creators of the list wanted to demonstrate once again that they are ignoring Russia's present influence in the world.
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  1. andrei332809
    andrei332809 30 November 2013 07: 40
    60
    no need to sing praises to Putin. when the Serduks sit down, the Medvedevs cease to steer, then we pat. maybe we’ll even arrange a standing ovation.
    py.s. foreign policy is still in order, but in one it raises complaints - too softly with all kinds of copyists of history
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    2. hommer
      hommer 30 November 2013 08: 12
      96
      Quote: andrei332809
      no need to sing praises to Putin. when the Serduks sit down, the Medvedevs cease to steer, then we pat. maybe we’ll even arrange a standing ovation.


      Legal desire!
      But how people quickly get used to the good. And rightly so - the best is the enemy of the good. With all the mixed attitude to GDP, one cannot but admit the presence of changes for the better. GDP is the same hired capital manager, but the fact that he sincerely wishes Russia's prosperity cannot be denied.
      I think that within Russia there will be success comparable to foreign policy.
      In any case, there is a positive trend.
      1. maxvet
        maxvet 30 November 2013 09: 22
        84
        In any case, the GDP is not ashamed when he advocates, remember BNE.
        1. Arberes
          Arberes 30 November 2013 10: 10
          48
          Quote: maxvet
          In any case, it’s not a shame for GDP

          You are right, you must give him his due, he says very well, I especially like his sense of humor in him! Well, the irony is always on his face!

          Quote: maxvet
          remember Bne.

          I always dragged more from Gorbachev! So I could say that Parkinson struck for five minutes right away. While his performance, you watch the stomach ache from laughter started!
          1. Igor39
            Igor39 30 November 2013 13: 15
            43
            Anecdote: Gorbachev asks Ryzhkov: "Nikolai Vasilievich, what's going on with our economy? Ryzhkov:" I'll explain now ... "Gorbachev:" No need, I can explain myself, I can't understand! " laughing
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 30 November 2013 21: 58
              16
              Quote: Igor39
              I can’t understand!


              So do I. Only other

              Putin presents Yeltsin with the Order of Merit for the Fatherland, 1st Class.

              DECREE
              from 31 December 1999 N N 1763
              The President of the Russian Federation, who has ceased to exercise his powers, has immunity. The President of the Russian Federation, who has ceased to exercise his powers, cannot be held criminally or administratively liable, detained, arrested, searched, interrogated or searched for in person.
              Acting
              President
              Russian Federation
              V. PUTIN
              1. Evgenij.
                Evgenij. 1 December 2013 20: 00
                +6
                Do you think we all know? VTCH then how Vladimir Vladimirovich became the receiver.
                And it is useless to lynch presidents, even such. Here is a marked yes "on a barrel of gunpowder, let it fly"
                1. CTEPX
                  CTEPX 2 December 2013 06: 03
                  +2
                  Quote: Evgenij.
                  Yes, and it is not worth lynching presidents, even such.

                  And this decree does not apply to Gorbachev. After all, he played the role of "President of the USSR". And Yeltsin should be forgiven for his sins, if only for the fact that he “surrendered” power to Putin, and not to other “candidates”)).
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          2. Reyngard
            Reyngard 30 November 2013 14: 31
            -70 qualifying.
            He speaks well, you speak? Don't be funny, the most criminal "Fenya", stirred up by Europioisms. He does not know pure literary Russian.
            1. Oskar
              Oskar 30 November 2013 15: 14
              -47 qualifying.
              What can you do, the "glorious" Petersburg period of your career is evidently affecting ... How else are you going to talk while wearing a crimson jacket?
              1. Vadivak
                Vadivak 30 November 2013 21: 16
                15
                Quote: Oskar
                How else are you going to wear a raspberry jacket?


                Wore. When dad Ksenia Sobchak worked as a deputy.
                1. Simon
                  Simon 1 December 2013 12: 58
                  13
                  To me so, let it wear at least! He jumped the main point of his teacher and lifts Russia confidently from his knees, and earns political authority for her throughout the world. tongue yes
                  1. Vadivak
                    Vadivak 1 December 2013 19: 21
                    +9
                    Quote: Simon
                    The main thing he jumped over his teacher and

                    At one time, the former prosecutor general Skuratov said: if everything that is known about Sobchak is made public, then there will be shock and confusion. And according to the president, Sobchak was not only a very decent, whole man, but also very honest.
                2. Very old
                  Very old 1 December 2013 15: 20
                  +6
                  Fuck with him, with SpiNjak. But with Togo's wife why did he pay with a senatorial chair?
                3. CTEPX
                  CTEPX 2 December 2013 06: 10
                  +6
                  Quote: Vadivak
                  Wore. When dad Ksenia Sobchak worked as a deputy.

                  It looks like a mediocre photo montage)). Raspberry jacket and adidas are glued)). At one time it was used, most likely, as a friendly comic cartoon. But times are changing.
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                5. Strezhevchanin
                  Strezhevchanin 2 December 2013 20: 03
                  0
                  Quote: Vadivak
                  Wore. When dad Ksenia Sobchak worked as a deputy.

                  Raspberry Mac and Abibas Workouts? It's a cosplay like Rusty laughing
            2. Vadivak
              Vadivak 30 November 2013 19: 06
              +7
              Quote: Reyngard
              Do not be ridiculous, the most criminal "Fenya", stirred up by Europioisms.


              The well-known expression of Vladimir Vladitmirovich: “Whoever offends us will not live for three days.” On the hairdryer, it is practically identical to the phrase “to put on knives the one who violated the thieves' law”.


              Words of academician Likhachev: “The words of a thieves speech are characterized by their unusual expansion, the ability to spread far beyond the thieves environment. With these thieves' words and dictionaries spread the poison of thieves' ideology, thieves' worldview. ”

              Written in 1935.
              1. CTEPX
                CTEPX 2 December 2013 06: 23
                +2
                Quote: Vadivak
                spread the poison of thieves ideology, thieves worldview

                A thief, sadly, not necessarily an enemy of Russia)). But there are "Russian subjects" who organize business - to the detriment of Russia, exercise their powers of power - to the detriment of Russia, using the media - to the detriment of Russia. In terms of countering these rogues, Putin - every success!)).
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            3. Victor-M
              Victor-M 30 November 2013 21: 34
              +2
              "Oskar"
              How much did you earn today? Today, you’ll probably be treating everyone to joy, it’s time, the partners are waiting.
              1. Eugeniy_369
                Eugeniy_369 1 December 2013 13: 27
                +4
                Quote: Victor-M
                How much did you earn today? Today, you’ll probably be treating everyone to joy, it’s time, the partners are waiting.

                So you probably judge by yourself, well, well ...
            4. Spnsr
              Spnsr 2 December 2013 13: 02
              0
              but what is not clear or what?
          3. Cherdak
            Cherdak 30 November 2013 14: 43
            16
            Quote: Arberes
            I always dragged more from Gorbachev!



            • And I warned: it’s time for our citizens to come to the conclusion that it is so godless to walk, not to regret either ourselves or relatives - this is unacceptable.
            • I leave you fertilized ...
            • Now I will go with an even bigger visor!
            • We were all there. Fifty-four European states. Already after, no, thirty-five, sorry, fifty-four - this is now when the Soviet Union. Thirty-five states.
            • Give, I will say what I said.
            • She needs to, so that’s what it is.
            • These organizations and foundations (non-governmental) are used to calmly come here and do something with unclean hands.
            • How will he shape those who will rule Russia?
            • How did I get into politics? He brought the upper classes to meet the water - then it was an event! He broke the lesson, but approved the Komsomol district committee.
            <br>• I like Putin. Character ... Clever turned out to be ...
            • The people have already clarified who is pulling back the country, who has thrown us this life.
            • But they are not going to fight against us, nor are we against them, in the end, neighbors, and let's because of this relationship, in the end.
            • The booze was everywhere. Both in production and in departments. I know this from the work of Raisa Maximovna.
            • Reforms must be completed by the one who started them. And I started them!
            • Russian becomes frank only with a glass or a glass. The anti-alcohol campaign is over, and I can have a drink.
            • I am in this case with Jesus Christ. He was the first socialist with us. There is nothing to be done.
            • I will answer you in the Gorbachev style. You know that it will be more difficult than a simple answer.
          4. alone
            alone 30 November 2013 20: 45
            +6
            Quote: Arberes
            I always dragged more from Gorbachev! So I could say that Parkinson struck for five minutes right away. While his performance, you watch the stomach ache from laughter started!


            and the funny thing was that everyone was clapping, but he really didn’t say anything. One common phrase. laughing
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 30 November 2013 21: 18
              +3
              Quote: lonely
              and the funny thing was that everyone clapped


              Everything. Without exception
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 30 November 2013 21: 24
                13
                Here is our main exposer, at the birthday of ..... sorry no censorship words!
                1. Evgenij.
                  Evgenij. 1 December 2013 20: 04
                  +5
                  Yes, this is for the money .... There are a lot of such people on the Maidan
            2. Arberes
              Arberes 30 November 2013 22: 28
              +6
              Quote: lonely
              and the funny thing was that everyone was clapping, but he really didn’t say anything. One common phrase.

              Everyone tried to show that they had already been rebuilt and deepened, and most importantly that their process began!
              Here we are today lit on the site is not childish!
              All the same, does the theme of V.V.P bring a noticeable revival to our minds and hearts?
              1. Vadivak
                Vadivak 1 December 2013 18: 57
                11
                Quote: Arberes
                All the same, does the theme of V.V.P bring a noticeable revival to our minds and hearts?

                Putin is undoubtedly an outstanding personality. But guys, there’s a rule. Don’t make yourself an idol. Otherwise, you can justify anything
                1. CTEPX
                  CTEPX 2 December 2013 06: 36
                  +1
                  Quote: Vadivak
                  Putin is undoubtedly an outstanding personality. But guys, there’s a rule. Don’t make yourself an idol

                  There is a rule. Only, to all of us now, it’s an idol who is capable of not ... saving everything, and not enough)). Better an idol, but with Russia than a brilliant external management, but without it)).
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          5. Vadivak
            Vadivak 30 November 2013 21: 46
            12
            Quote: Arberes
            You are right, you must give him his due, he says very well, I especially like his sense of humor in him!


            Me too

            “You are known as one of the outstanding statesmen of our time, who have had a noticeable impact on the course of world history and have done a lot to strengthen Russia's authority,” Putin noted Gorbachev’s merits.

            “He led the process of fundamental changes that brought Russia out of the impasse in which Russia found itself. The scale of Yeltsin’s personality has yet to be evaluated by posterity. But today we understand that in the 90s, Russia actually received a rebirth. ”
            V.V. Putin
            1. CTEPX
              CTEPX 2 December 2013 06: 44
              0
              Quote: Vadivak
              who have had a noticeable impact on the course of world history, have done a lot to strengthen Russia's authority, ”Putin noted Gorbachev’s merits.

              Quote: Vadivak
              The scale of Yeltsin’s personality has yet to be evaluated by posterity. But already today we understand that in the 90s Russia received virtually a rebirth. ”V.V. Putin

              And yet, cool, Putin didn’t lie a word! It is thanks to these figures that our today's Russia has arisen)).
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          6. Very old
            Very old 1 December 2013 15: 06
            0
            Take antigrippin 40% - how to remove it by hand
        2. Revolver
          Revolver 30 November 2013 10: 16
          18
          Quote: maxvet
          In any case, the GDP is not ashamed when he advocates, remember BNE.

          I remember him as EBN
          am
          1. Arberes
            Arberes 30 November 2013 11: 47
            +1
            Well, so that no one doubts about me in relation to our president, I have a gift from me at the end of the topic!

            Putriots.

            Hurray for the Putriots of "United Russia"!
            Your light is dazzling!
            Taxes and prices for everything will jump !!!
            We have a "gift" for the New Year ???
            1. I am
              I am 30 November 2013 15: 11
              +3
              And you were not mistaken with the address ???? In your metropolis, something worse happens
              http://oko-planet.su/ekstrim/ekstrimsovet/221043-rossiyskiy-vrach-o-medicine-v-s
              sha.html
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            2. Far East
              Far East 1 December 2013 03: 23
              0
              Quote: Arberes
              Well, so that no one doubts about me in relation to our president, I have a gift from me at the end of the topic!

              respected! eka you like a rhyme! we love the "great" PU. Bonuses will be given soon! sorry minusanul! ++++++ good hi
            3. HAM
              HAM 1 December 2013 09: 12
              0
              Congratulations nostalgic:
              "Vermouth" costs a ruble seven,
              Meat, no oil at all,
              We see eggs only in the bath-
              Happy New Year Rostov!
              (Voronezh, Ryazan, etc.)
              1. Vadivak
                Vadivak 1 December 2013 19: 25
                +8
                Quote: HAM
                Congratulations nostalgic:
                "Vermouth" costs a ruble seven,
                Meat, no oil at all,
                We see eggs only in the bath-
                Happy New Year Rostov!



                since 2000, 8,5 thousand villages have disappeared from the map of the country, another 19 thousand are listed, but empty.

                Happy New Year Russians
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                2. Yarosvet
                  Yarosvet 1 December 2013 20: 14
                  -1
                  Quote: Vadivak
                  Happy New Year Russians
                3. Spnsr
                  Spnsr 2 December 2013 14: 10
                  +1
                  and if you were at the helm, would it be better?
                  1. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 2 December 2013 15: 57
                    0
                    Quote: SpnSr
                    and if you were at the helm, would it be better?

                    Read my comments and decide for yourself
                    1. Spnsr
                      Spnsr 2 December 2013 16: 38
                      +2
                      in the comments start a lot, do not pull, you will try to level)))))
                    2. vladimirZ
                      vladimirZ 5 December 2013 16: 15
                      -1
                      Simon RU December 1, 2013 12:58
                      The main thing is he (Putin) jumped over his teacher (Yeltsin) and confidently raises Russia from his knees, and earns political authority for her


                      You can not endlessly travel to preserve the country from the collapse in 1999-2001. and "stability", to chat and do nothing in practice to improve the economic life of the country.
              2. corn
                corn 1 December 2013 20: 43
                +1
                I know this poem in a heavier version
                We only see eggs in the bathhouse
                Uncle Vanya’s sausage
                we drink wine for a ruble seven,
                no meat, no oil at all,
                and how to buy ivashi or take a taxi,
                then to pay (big and tasteless candy) suck.
            4. Evgenij.
              Evgenij. 1 December 2013 20: 05
              +5
              you will not be able to cheat the word "patriots", do not even try
            5. Spnsr
              Spnsr 2 December 2013 13: 22
              0
              beautiful! stekloblud m l I)))
            6. Vasek
              Vasek 5 December 2013 01: 22
              -1
              Quote: Arberes
              Hurray for the Putriots of "United Russia"!
              Your light is dazzling!
              Taxes and prices for everything will jump !!!
              We have a "gift" for the New Year ???


              That is:
              I am a poet, my name is Dunno.
              From me to you - balalaika!

              ?
          2. Cherdak
            Cherdak 30 November 2013 14: 47
            13
            Quote: Nagan
            I remember him as EBN


            1. And what to do next? Or, I’m sorry, to substitute a bare ass, or still somehow secure for yourself, you know, in the east a good cover ...
            2. He lived a great life: he visited both from above, and from below, and from below, and from above!
            3. I had such a hero - Pushkin.
            4. Apparently we are close in nature, therefore he makes a short contact, and I go for a short contact, and two short contacts do not give a short circuit, but give a good return.
            5. Here is such a squiggle turns out.
            6. Two ministers rested and did not want to resolve this issue. We took, chopped them ...
            7. There is little money, but you need a lot to love people ... and this must be combined.
            8. The dictatorship of Yeltsin was not and never will be, and I will not allow other dictatorships.
            9. Europe without Russia is not Europe. Only with Russia can it be a big Europe. And such a big Europe, which is no longer equal and cannot be on the globe.
        3. bomg.77
          bomg.77 30 November 2013 11: 12
          46
          Quote: maxvet
          In any case, the GDP is not ashamed when he advocates, remember BNE.
          Not only am I not ashamed, but as pathetic as it sounds, I am proud of my president !!!
          1. vladimirZ
            vladimirZ 30 November 2013 12: 43
            -40 qualifying.
            bomg.77
            Not only am I not ashamed, but as pathetic as it sounds, I am proud of my president !!!


            For being proud of the president, for these failures in our state. Compare what we had and what we have now.
            Proud of nothing!
            1. bomg.77
              bomg.77 30 November 2013 13: 01
              31
              Quote: vladimirZ
              For being proud of the president, for these failures in our state. Compare what we had and what we have now.
              Was there another president between Putin and the USSR, or did you forget? We need to compare Russia 1999 years and Russia 2013 years! Compare these figures, and we'll talk there.
              1. vladimirZ
                vladimirZ 30 November 2013 13: 43
                0
                bomg.77
                It is necessary to compare Russia in 1999 and Russia in 2013 ...

                This is the above right to compare. And I and the millions of people who lived in the USSR are compared with what we had in the best years of our state. And what we all lost.
                The most important thing is that Putin does nothing for the people: factories and factories go bankrupt and close, agriculture is still destroyed, which could have been revived in 13 years of power, and thousands of people are still killed in destroyed civil aviation due to systemic reasons etc. etc.
                Putin "works" for the comprador bourgeoisie and bureaucracy, but not the people.
                How many terms and years of the presidency does he need to start improving people's lives? At least twice as much as he was, he will not think about people.
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                  1. S_mirnov
                    S_mirnov 30 November 2013 14: 20
                    -25 qualifying.
                    Quote: bomg.77
                    65% of people expressed their trust in him, which means that the life of these people has improved and he did not deceive them.

                    50% - ELECTION TEST! Of these 50% voted for 65% (according to your version) = 32% of the population according to Churov wink
                    Army - by order,
                    Police on orders
                    State employees under duress.
                    MOE by order.
                    Judges and lawyers are convinced
                    Deputies and officials are convinced (including Chubais, Serdyukov, Surkov, etc.)
                    Citizens of Kazakhstan and Central Asia - 500 rubles each.
                    Chechnya - 99% - do you know why?

                    These are the very people (the bulk, corrected by the magician Churov) who expressed confidence in him laughing
                    1. JIaIIoTb
                      JIaIIoTb 30 November 2013 14: 56
                      12
                      Quote: S_mirnov
                      Citizens Kazakhstan and Central Asia - 500 rubles each.


                      Only for this you can be sent to the delay minus.
                      This is how one should hate to lie so openly.
                      1. S_mirnov
                        S_mirnov 30 November 2013 15: 07
                        -14 qualifying.
                        Quote: JIaIIoTb
                        This is how one should hate to lie so openly.

                        Hate - a person, but here is a collective image! What is the "old" or "new" to hate?
                      2. S_mirnov
                        S_mirnov 1 December 2013 20: 27
                        +2
                        Quote: JIaIIoTb
                        Citizens of Kazakhstan and Central Asia - 500 rubles each.


                        Only for this you can be sent to the delay minus.


                        I agree, Kazakhs are a proud people, I was there, I liked it, I admit the mistake! , didn’t say that.
                        It would be more correct to say that non-legal migrants voted 500 rubles each.
                        I apologize to the Kazakhs! The rest of my opinion is unchanged !!!
                    2. picnic
                      picnic 30 November 2013 15: 26
                      +5
                      By whatever order or coercion they did not vote, the vote is secret. And this means that the voters cast their votes for the one they wanted.
                    3. Basil123
                      Basil123 30 November 2013 15: 27
                      10
                      something I don’t remember the compulsion of n ......... those (((
                      1. aksakal
                        aksakal 30 November 2013 17: 02
                        12
                        Quote: Vasily123
                        something I don’t remember the compulsion of n ......... those (((
                        - Well, it’s clear right away laughing S.Mirnov does not like to toss bags, it's hard, and you can tear your back laughing laughing But to stick in here under the guise of his own opinion (he would have - I would argue, but after the "citizens of Kazakhstan - 500 rubles" somehow does not argue - this is not his opinion, he typed it from the brochure, as they said in that brochure, and posted laughing ) DO NOT GRAVE BAGS - do not feed it with bread.
                      2. S_mirnov
                        S_mirnov 1 December 2013 13: 11
                        -2
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_iQlQ6HNqk
                        well come on, now you "do not move your bags" laughing ... Can you present the scanned "brochure"? Or will you swear by your mother that the elections were fair?
                      3. 31231
                        31231 1 December 2013 13: 33
                        +4
                        Smirnov, I did not understand something. Bulletins for whom and who stuffed? Papers like bulletins pop in front of the camera, so what? Are you ready to say that the ballots for Putin and one person voted on them? You are a forensic expert, what can you conclude from voting from this shoot?
                        Do not tell me how to make ballots from non-walking disabled people and people who vote in advance?
                      4. S_mirnov
                        S_mirnov 1 December 2013 14: 22
                        -5
                        №31231 - stop pretending to be an inexperienced virgin!
                        Quote: 31231
                        Smirnov, I did not understand something. Bulletins for whom and who stuffed?
                      5. 31231
                        31231 1 December 2013 15: 02
                        +4
                        №31231 - stop pretending to be an inexperienced virgin!


                        Smirnov, stop pretending to be omniscient and speaking for everyone. Have a conscience and speak for your mortal body. In extreme cases, for friends and relatives.
                      6. S_mirnov
                        S_mirnov 1 December 2013 20: 31
                        +1
                        "Every man for himself" - the favorite slogan of the monsters who destroyed the USSR!
                        I like more - "one for all, and all for one!"
          2. 31231
            31231 30 November 2013 16: 04
            14
            Army - by order,


            I don’t remember something, that someone would beg me to vote for Putin during the service. The fact that everyone gathered and taken to the polls a fact, but the fact that someone would agitate someone in our battalion did not see this.

            State employees under duress.

            My sister was a state employee during the 2 elections. She well remembers the times of EBN and how state employees lived then. So you guess who she voted for. But she did not go to the election of DAM, she said that she was too lazy to vote for him.
            In general, dear, serious people speak for themselves, and not for "the Army, the Police, the budget workers, the Ministry of Emergency Situations and others."
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 1 December 2013 14: 29
              +3
              Quote: 31231
              My sister was a state employee during the 2 elections.

              Perhaps we have different ways in the regions, but our state employees, in addition to ourselves, are even obliged to involve all relatives! A recent example - voting on the site "Name of Russia" - forced to vote for a local landmark fool !!!. And all the same, to vote for anyone you want - not every state employee has the courage, unfortunately.
              Quote: 31231

              In general, dear, serious people speak for themselves, and not for "the Army, the Police, the budget workers, the Ministry of Emergency Situations and others."

              Yeah, our whole country speaks for itself - in a whisper in the kitchen. So there’s no one to protect the army from Serdyukov and Putin from - each for itself, profit above all else - the laws of capitalism.
            2. 31231
              31231 1 December 2013 15: 11
              +1
              It is possible with you in the regions in different ways, but we have state employees besides ourselves even oblige us to attract all our relatives!


              Again, you take the superfluous and speak for all state employees in the regions ?!
              Once again, during military service in the ORB, our political officer gathered everyone and took him to the House of Culture for voting. At the same time, neither he nor other officers had any influence on the opinion of the military when choosing the president. Personally, I then voted for Zhirik.
          3. kostella85
            kostella85 2 December 2013 02: 50
            +1
            In the mound in ALL factories, in all schools and medical institutions, political information was carried out - this is FACT !!!
        4. BARKAS
          BARKAS 30 November 2013 17: 55
          +6
          Quote: S_mirnov
          50% - ELECTION TEST! Of these 50% voted for 65% (according to your version) = 32% of the population according to Churov
          Army - by order,
          Police on orders
          State employees under duress.

          But only in small towns where there are no military men and very few officials and police, and there was no coercion with agitation, and there is no mention of a turnout of 75%. The percentage for GDP is also 75% + -5%. Why so? recourse
          1. basmach
            basmach 2 December 2013 23: 50
            0
            I happened to be a member of a district election commission, and a close relative was a member of a precinct. The lower the turnout, the more votes for the desired candidate (bulletins will be reported to the required percentage for the desired deputy). There is another example - at one of the precincts, the chairman basically refused to fulfill instructions from the administration-the result-28% for the Communist Party and 12% for the United Russia (and he was "politely" offered to quit the next day) These are the layouts
          2. Slav
            Slav 3 December 2013 17: 05
            +2
            Quote: basmach
            I happened to be a member of the district election commission

            And what is a "district" election commission?


            Quote: basmach
            There is another example - at one of the polling stations, the chairman basically refused to follow the instructions of the administration-the result is 28% for the Communist Party and 12% for the United Russia Party (and he was "politely" offered to quit the next day)

            And the chairman cannot be fired. Because he is hired only for the duration of the election.
            Secondly, when calculating votes, at the slightest complaint from observers or members of the commission, the chairman bears CRIMINAL responsibility.
            Thirdly, at what stage could the chairman rig the numbers, in your opinion? The final protocol is signed by all and members and observers from different candidates. What you say is nonsense.
            I also participated in the PEC, Putin honestly scored 51%. The percentages indicated in the final protocol were also on the CEC website.
            Z.Y. I voted for Prokhorov.
      2. POMA
        POMA 30 November 2013 21: 41
        +3
        I don’t belong to one of your categories, but I voted for GDP, and my friends also voted and there is no need to say that there was no alternative, more than half of the Russians trust him, and if Serdyuk is imprisoned, 90 percent will definitely vote for him in the next election.
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 1 December 2013 20: 22
          0
          Quote: POMA
          Yes, more than half of Russians trust him, and if Serdyuk is imprisoned, 90 percent will definitely vote for him in the next election.

          Why doesn’t it plant? Looks like there is someone more important for him than 90% of Russians! wink
      3. Spnsr
        Spnsr 2 December 2013 14: 46
        +1
        he thought?
    3. Current 72
      Current 72 30 November 2013 16: 04
      0
      I agree with you Homeless, 100% !!!
  2. 31231
    31231 30 November 2013 14: 46
    11
    When will you begin to speak in the language of numbers, not cliches ?! And where did you get the idea that Russia under Putin should be compared with the USSR in the 50s and 80s? But even the USSR did not have the best times in the 20-30s and the end of the 80s. About troubles EBNa and talk about nothing.
    1. xan
      xan 30 November 2013 17: 51
      -4
      Quote: 31231
      But even the USSR did not have the best times in the 20-30s and the end of the 80s. About troubles EBNa and talk about nothing.

      under socialism, the country was brought to the point of selling the country for chewing gum and jeans.
      Why do we need Soviet-made socialism if the people are easily fooled and bought for beautiful clothes and external freedom?
      1. POMA
        POMA 30 November 2013 21: 51
        -1
        Stop khan enough to get tired already, socialism is good, it means you are socially protected, the example of Sweden has been socialism for a long time, I lived in the GREAT USSR and RUSSIA everywhere with their pros and cons, but for now, RUSSIA has the right direction for development, here 90s was a horror.
        1. Simon
          Simon 1 December 2013 13: 18
          +6
          Yes, while there was no humpback, they really lived well under the USSR.
      2. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 1 December 2013 20: 41
        +1
        Quote: xan
        Why do we need Soviet-made socialism if the people are easily fooled and bought for beautiful clothes and external freedom?

        do not confuse the flourishing of socialism under Stalin in the last years of his life and the gradual withering up to Gorbachev! A lot determines the leader (now the president) equals him. Just understand what impulse Stalin gave if you managed to extinguish it only with Gorbi!
    2. Evgeniy-111
      Evgeniy-111 30 November 2013 21: 18
      +1
      The habit of the people, probably ...
      But compared the country before only with 1913 ?!
  3. sprut
    sprut 30 November 2013 15: 24
    +6
    "Putin" works "for the comprador bourgeoisie and the bureaucracy, but not the people" - idle chatter! The same can be said for any leader in the world. About all the Zyuganovs and Zhirinovskys - the same thing. It is easier to wear than to notice the positives.
  4. Danafxnumx
    Danafxnumx 30 November 2013 16: 15
    +1
    Quote: vladimirZ
    And I and the millions of people who lived in the USSR are compared with what we had in the best years of our state. And what we all lost.

    but don’t remind how and why you lost that state?
  5. bddrus
    bddrus 30 November 2013 17: 47
    +2
    so that he begins to improve people's lives
    - ???? have you been lying on the stove by chance since the time of the Union?
  6. avdkrd
    avdkrd 30 November 2013 18: 04
    +1
    Quote: vladimirZ
    And I and the millions of people who lived in the USSR are compared with what we had in the best years of our state. And what we all lost.

    You can still remember and compare how good it was before the baptism of Russia, and those who compare with the USSR should not forget to do it themselves (the USSR). How amicably applauded to all gene-sections and Judah who finished the country. Again, you need to compare the dynamics, and not taken the gross figures. Hunchbacked all these figures led to zero even during the Soviet Union, and the little drunkard also multiplied by zero. So that you are simply engaged in rhetoric, according to your logic, it is Putin who is to blame for the fact that it is impossible to compare the USSR and real Russia.
  7. Rost_a
    Rost_a 30 November 2013 19: 34
    -6
    To listen to you, it can be decided that the president decides everything with us, but in fact this is far from the case. Take at least our Central Bank, not controlled by Putin. From here we have extra high interest on loans and so on ...
  8. bif
    bif 30 November 2013 19: 42
    -9
    Quote: vladimirZ
    agriculture is still destroyed, which in 13 years of power could have been revived,

    How do you listen to such people working as plumbers, tire fitters, drivers, etc. in the same spirit, WHO knows best what to do and how, so it takes for the soul - how much the COUNTRY has lost, that you are already busy with your work.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 30 November 2013 21: 30
      13
      Quote: bif
      How do you listen to such people working as plumbers, tire fitters, drivers, etc. in the same spirit, who know best of all what needs to be done and how, so it takes for the soul -


      Why not? :
      "We demand an immediate break with the prejudice that only the rich or officials from rich families are able to run the state, to carry out the everyday work of administration. We demand that training in the cause of state administration be carried out by class-conscious workers and soldiers and that it begin immediately, that is, they immediately began to involve all workers, all the poor in this training. "

      "Will the Bolsheviks hold state power?" (1917) V.I. Lenin (1870-1924).
    2. grandfather
      grandfather 30 November 2013 21: 49
      0
      son, no matter how you like the minister, enlighten those who do not know how to read farm laborers.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 30 November 2013 21: 56
        +4
        Quote: bearded
        son, no matter how you like the minister, enlighten those who do not know how to read farm laborers.

        it’s impossible to understand who the question is. You need to click-answer, then select part of the opponent’s text, then click -Qitate. and after that write the answer. hi
      2. bif
        bif 1 December 2013 14: 30
        +2
        Quote: bearded
        Enlighten those who can not read laborers.

        You should have been educated yourself earlier, learned to read - at school, now the time is irrevocably lost, therefore only working with your hands, education is not your forte.
      3. grandfather
        grandfather 1 December 2013 15: 15
        0
        How do you listen to such people working as plumbers, tire fitters, drivers, etc. in the same spirit, WHO knows best what to do and how, so it takes for the soul - how much the COUNTRY has lost, that you are already busy with your work.
        here under the post and left his post.
  9. Evgeniy-111
    Evgeniy-111 30 November 2013 21: 16
    -1
    Try, for interest to look at the site "Made by Us".
    (I don’t want this to look like an ad for third-party sites, but I think it has good answers for the "all-naughty" ...
    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/
    1. Normal
      Normal 30 November 2013 22: 56
      10
      Quote: Evgeniy-111
      answers for "all the bad guys" ..

      Answers for "all prospers" on the site "still not all prospers"
  10. vasiliysxx
    vasiliysxx 30 November 2013 21: 27
    0
    After heaped up these ghouls of Gorbachev with Yeltsin, Putin must have raked another ten years. These aching penguins have already reached.
  11. komendor
    komendor 30 November 2013 21: 35
    -4
    Yes, what are you in the last century that went in cycles, RUSSIA almost every new century is being rebuilt. This has historically developed. You don’t want to build a new state at all. My children and grandchildren are already beginning to tell me what kind of relatives we are and what kind of country we are creating. Before, I also grumbled how cool they were, but my father put me in a good brains. And if you recall the story, we have been taught to rule the tsar since childhood, I regret that Putin does not have a son. The question is if you become the head of the country after how many years you will WISE rule.
  12. grandfather
    grandfather 30 November 2013 21: 41
    +1
    is not you the case of the USSR prosrali? all with the same slogans about freedom, prosperity, etc., and the hero is a communist?
  13. Combitor
    Combitor 1 December 2013 00: 28
    +5
    vladimirZ RU Yesterday, 13:43 ↑ why some people in the west are often chosen "man of the year":
    How the Americans polished "Iron Putin"
    RUSPRES. 29.11.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX
    The political kitchen of the Kremlin with the foreign "Ketchum"
    Since 2006, the American PR agency Ketchum actually began to play the role of the strategic department and the press service of the Kremlin. The Americans wrote speeches to Russian ministers and even to President Putin, and helped Medvedev blog. An English employee, Angus Roxboro, explains how Ketchum’s work for the Kremlin works.
    For putting gloss on the image ... agreed to pay dearly. Ketchum's financial reports showed that in the early years, the agency was paid almost a million dollars a month. Financial agreements were not concluded directly with the Kremlin, but with one Russian bank, so they were not carried out under the items of the state budget.
    [...] In 2006, the Kremlin chose the well-known American PR agency Ketchum as its collective adviser. Formally, it was supposed to promote Russia's participation in the G2007 summit. But of course, only this meeting did not limit the participation of Americans in political and PR activities. Already in 2, Time magazine called Putin the person of the year. Later, evil tongues began to claim that $ XNUMX million was paid for this Time.
    Ketchum services were not paid directly from the budget of the Russian Federation, but through Eurofinance-Mosnarbank. The exact amount for Ketchum services has never been disclosed; rumored to have ranged from $ 8 to $ 20 million per year. Up to $ 50 million a year was spent on various orders (from paid articles to “research” and “analytical notes”).
    In 2007, Ketchum received a prestigious PR prize for its work ...
    PS Full version of the article on the RUSPRES website.
    1. 31231
      31231 1 December 2013 10: 46
      +1
      Thanks from the next journalistic investigation neighing.
      Financial agreements were not concluded directly with the Kremlin, but with one Russian bank, so they were not carried out under the items of the state budget.

      Magazines, such magazines. Having no facts fantasize plenty. Although the contract was submitted with confirmation, otherwise they hang all the noodles on the ears.
  14. Far East
    Far East 1 December 2013 03: 26
    11
    Quote: vladimirZ
    How many terms and years of the presidency does he need to start improving people's lives? At least twice as much as he was, he will not think about people.

    + + + + good drinks hi
  15. Simon
    Simon 1 December 2013 13: 14
    +2
    What you have lost is now impossible to collect. They themselves are to blame, they voted for Gorbach and for EBN, and these clowns ruined everything. I don’t know how it is with you, but not a single bankrupt plant was planted in our country, everyone is working fine, though some have slowed down their pace due to the crisis, but I’m working. And I’ll also say that it is very easy and fast to ruin and destroy, but much more time needs to be created.
  16. bif
    bif 3 December 2013 18: 55
    +1
    Quote: vladimirZ
    Putin does nothing for the people: factories and factories go bankrupt and close, agriculture is still destroyed, which could have been revived in 13 years of power
    I love the unsubstantiated and alarmist screams of "all-bad guys", they need to be soaked like kittens in my own puddle ...
    Especially the dynamics of agricultural development over 13 years.
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/44320/
    New plants and production OPEN ONLY FOR NOVEMBER 2013.
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/44333/
  • Vadivak
    Vadivak 30 November 2013 19: 24
    10
    Quote: bomg.77
    ? It is necessary to compare Russia in 1999 and Russia in 2013!


    Of course not. Look how everything has changed.

    4 top posts in the Russian state are occupied by Leningraders: President Putin; Prime Minister Medvedev; Head of the Federation Council Matvienko; Speaker of the State Duma Naryshkin. The 3 largest companies in Russia also occupy immigrants from the city on the Neva (by coincidence - all of them were subordinates of Vladimir Putin at St. Petersburg City Hall): Gazprom - Miller; Rosneft - Sechin; Sberbank - Gref. the list of departments and successful companies headed by colleagues, classmates and colleagues of Vladimir Vladimirovich will take more than one page in small print.

    in Russia, the African level of corruption, even when drinking EBN, was not like this
    In 1997, a huge scandal erupted over the fees of several members of the government for a book on privatization. The fee was 90 thousand dollars. The scandal led to a government crisis, in the spring of the 98th the government was dismissed. Messages about the villas of Putin’s officials worth tens of millions of dollars are of no interest to anyone, and these people themselves continue to work. Watches by V. Resin, the first vice-mayor of Moscow, who has never worked in business, worth $ 1 million, are also not grounds for the current regime to investigate and dismiss.

    Pictured in a 1962 Rolls Royce Phantom. Edros and Duma deputy Resin. Say Ordinary official transport?
    1. 31231
      31231 1 December 2013 11: 18
      -2
      in Russia, the African level of corruption, even when drinking EBN, was not like this
      In 1997, a huge scandal erupted over the fees of several members of the government for a book on privatization. The fee was 90 thousand dollars. The scandal led to a government crisis, in the spring of the 98th the government was dismissed.


      Oh really? Do not tell me with the help of whom companies were seized when drinking EBN? Rothschilds or Rockefellers to Berezovsky, Abramovich or Khodorkovsky lent trillions of money to buy these enterprises?
      Do not recall when someone was squeezed out by the state of Yukos, Sakhalin-2, is now the turn of TNCs ?!
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 1 December 2013 19: 03
        +4
        Quote: 31231
        Oh really? Do not tell me with the help of whom companies were seized when drinking EBN?


        Do you think that there is no redistribution of property now? There are no others 9th birch) and those farther (meadow) it is rude of course, but ......
  • Simon
    Simon 1 December 2013 13: 04
    +2
    Yes friends, remember the 90s and the present years under Putin. EBN lowered Russia, and Putin lifted it from its knees and now earns its credibility.
  • Eugeniy_369
    Eugeniy_369 1 December 2013 13: 22
    +4
    Quote: bomg.77
    It is necessary to compare Russia in 1999 and Russia in 2013!

    Do not forget to compare the price of oil. wink
    1. 31231
      31231 1 December 2013 15: 17
      -3
      Dear here, this question was already solved simply. Divide the volume of GDP of 99 by the price of oil then and the GDP of 2012 by the average price of 2012. Then maybe you will discover the truth.
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 1 December 2013 16: 37
        +2
        Quote: 31231
        Divide the volume of GDP of 99 by the price of oil then and the GDP of 2012 by the average price of 2012.

        Serge, please enlighten - what will this strange manipulation give?
        1. 31231
          31231 1 December 2013 19: 01
          0
          Bggg. Yarosvet, are you chewing again ?! It seems that less than a month ago they discussed this issue. Again? Do you have a short memory?
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 1 December 2013 20: 18
            +1
            Quote: 31231
            Do you have a short memory?

            And you bother to chew - vividly demonstrate my stupidity (just do not forget to take a closer look at your wording - economist ... fucking fly) laughing
  • Igor39
    Igor39 30 November 2013 13: 19
    +1
    So then there was socialism, and now capitalism, and oligarchic, the White House defenders wanted freedom and now it is, why compare the totalitarian USSR and free Russia?
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 30 November 2013 14: 22
      +5
      Quote: Igor39
      So then there was socialism, and now capitalism

      What legislation says that we have capitalism? laughing

      Here, my dear man, according to the law SOCIAL STATE, socialism in the conditions of a market economy.
      But why we do not observe this, we should just ask the guarantor under the Basic Law.
      1. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx 30 November 2013 16: 24
        +4
        Quote: Yarosvet
        according to the law SOCIAL STATE, to say socialism in a market economy.
        But why we do not observe this, we should just ask the guarantor under the Basic Law.

        how is it not observed?
        Do we have paid medicine?
        tuition?
        maybe we have 31000 senior citizens freezing in their own apartments a year in the UK?
        maybe we don’t have maternity capital?
        or subsidies for travel and rent for beneficiaries?

        and yet socialism has nothing to do with a social state ...
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 30 November 2013 16: 42
          +2
          Quote: DanaF1
          Do we have paid medicine?
          tuition?
          Didn't you know?
          And the fact that thanks to the reform of medicine the last six months in the ambulance crew 1 people, and not 2 as before (as a result of which you let the bedridden patient down), didn’t you know?
          And the fact that the education in the pope because of the exam and the reduction of subjects, you again did not know?

          maybe we have 31000 senior citizens freezing in their own apartments a year in the UK?
          Official statistics - please.

          maybe we don’t have maternity capital?
          or subsidies for travel and rent for beneficiaries?
          Subsidies? belay
          You need a full meal (provided that the price level does not change) per year, what amount is needed?

          and yet socialism has nothing to do with a social state ...
          Oh really? laughing
          Probably related to oligarchic capitalism in the context of incipient neo-feudalism.
          1. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 30 November 2013 19: 36
            0
            Quote: Yarosvet
            Official statistics - please.

            http://www.1tv.ru/news/world/247126, если не устраивает, поищите сами, в гугле чай не забанили...
            Quote: Yarosvet
            Didn't you know?
            And the fact that thanks to the reform of medicine the last six months in the ambulance crew 1 people, and not 2 as before (as a result of which you let the bedridden patient down), didn’t you know?
            And the fact that the education in the pope because of the exam and the reduction of subjects, you again did not know?

            I did not know, I am being treated for free!
            for the most part, women are working in the ambulance who did not carry the patient anyway, as I already know, they themselves ran around the porch looking for male neighbors to inform ...
            Quote: Yarosvet
            Subsidies?
            You need a full meal (provided that the price level does not change) per year, what amount is needed?

            Have I even said a word about nutrition?
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 30 November 2013 20: 15
              0
              Quote: DanaF1
              if you don’t like it, look for it yourself, you haven’t banned tea in Google ...
              Oh no, my dear - they said "A", and say "B": it is unsubstantiated to assert something - this is not working as a loader, you know.

              I did not know, I am being treated for free!
              Do not be treated, but examined (and not every timely diagnosis is free).

              for the most part, women are working in the ambulance who did not carry the patient anyway, as I already know, they themselves ran around the porch looking for male neighbors to inform ...
              Firstly, it’s a lie. Secondly - absolutely no difference what happened with EBNe for example. It is important that the policies of the current Prime Minister are in accordance with the Constitution of the Russian Federation, and there is no such compliance and is not expected not only in the field of medicine, but also in any other.

              Quote: Yarosvet
              Have I even said a word about nutrition?
              What about yak? laughing
              Or do you think that excessive consumption is subsidized, and not a lack of consumption?
              So, how much?
            2. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx 1 December 2013 11: 27
              -1
              Quote: Yarosvet
              What about yak?
              Or do you think that excessive consumption is subsidized, and not a lack of consumption?
              So, how much?

              are you raving
            3. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 1 December 2013 12: 37
              +1
              Olya, you are extremely ineptly trying to move out to the market, which is boring.

              I asked you a specific question - what amount do you need in order to fully eat throughout the year, subject to the current prices of products?

              Will the answer be?
            4. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx 1 December 2013 13: 11
              0
              Quote: Yarosvet
              Olya, you are extremely ineptly trying to move out to the market, which is boring.

              I asked you a specific question - what amount do you need in order to fully eat throughout the year, subject to the current prices of products?

              Will the answer be?

              easily, xnumx thousand a year ...

              Yarik, given the fact that I didn’t talk about products at all, could you explain why you raised this topic?
            5. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 1 December 2013 13: 28
              +2
              Quote: DanaF1
              why did you raise this topic?
              I explain:

              In a month you need 6666 rubles for food. (it is doubtful that it will be full-fledged), but that’s not all: you also need to pay 1700 per month for housing and electricity, dress / shoe for a modest 1000, hygiene products (both personal and household) - 1000, transport - 3000, as well as treatment (drugs), leisure, etc.

              Thus, specifically your REAL cost of living will be 16-17 tr., And this with the official cost of living in 7633 p., And minimum wage in 5205 p.

              Do you know about subsidies that achieve at least your real cost of living?
            6. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx 1 December 2013 17: 31
              0
              Quote: Yarosvet
              Do you know about subsidies that achieve at least your real cost of living?

              if you do not understand, then I will explain, I talked about benefits for pensioners, disabled people, etc.
              I didn’t talk about food ...
              by the way in MSC on 6000 per month you can eat well ...
              What is this fare in 3000? are you a taxi? or maybe they haven’t been in Russia for a long time?
              for information, a single travel card in Moscow on 60 trips costs 1200 rubles. It can be used for 3 months ...
            7. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 1 December 2013 20: 33
              +1
              Quote: DanaF1
              if you do not understand, then I will explain, I talked about benefits for pensioners, disabled people, etc.
              See the cost of living for seniors and compare it with reality.

              by the way in MSC on 6000 per month you can eat well ...
              Who - the average androgyne-normastenik with a height of 170 cm, a normal weight of 60 kg and an age of 50 years?

              for information, a single travel card in Moscow on 60 trips costs 1200 rubles. It can be used for 3 months ...
            8. corn
              corn 1 December 2013 21: 05
              0
              Yarosvet, I'm sorry, but you have not added a small or a small one, it also costs money and not small ones.
            9. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 1 December 2013 21: 54
              0
              Quote: corn
              Yarosvet, I'm sorry, but you have not added a small or a small one, it also costs money and not small ones.

              I would add that if we were talking about the minimum wage, but for the time being we are discussing the adequacy of the living wage and benefits hi
          2. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 1 December 2013 21: 41
            -1
            Where do you see 3000 in this picture?
            and by the way, I live in Moscow, I buy these same tickets and I know how much they cost, so do not write nonsense ...
          3. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 1 December 2013 22: 04
            +1
            Quote: DanaF1
            Where do you see 3000 in this picture?
            good

            I found something to catch on (2380 stands alone) laughing

            Olya, let me ask you:
            1 Where do you see the correspondence of the officially established living wage to real?
            2 Where do you see the minimum wage matching the real, or at least the official cost of living?
            3 Does a working person have the right to use intercity transport and travel to the country, or is this an excess?

            And in general - judging by your writings and assuming that six and a half pieces are really enough for food per month, we can conclude "either-or": either you are a miniature girl, about 20 years old, or an elderly dwarf.

            and by the way, I live in Moscow, I buy these same tickets and I know how much they cost, so do not write nonsense ...
            Hello village neighbor fellow
          4. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 1 December 2013 22: 45
            -2
            Quote: Yarosvet
            I found something to catch on (2380 stands alone)

            this is a single document for a month without travel restrictions - a completely different document, so do not move off the topic ...
            1. we have at least no one gets
            2. The minimum wage and the cost of living are different categories that are not related to each other ...
            3. What does a summer cottage and intercity transportation have to do with it?

            on 6000 rubles it’s quite possible to eat normally without really saving, this is of course without cafes and restaurants ...
          5. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 1 December 2013 23: 37
            -1
            Quote: DanaF1
            this is a single document for a month without travel restrictions - a completely different document, so do not move off the topic ...
            No sweetheart - you don’t substitute a clue: getting to work — from work — an average of 2 trips each way, but there are other necessary movements besides this.

            1. we have at least no one gets
            Oh really? laughing
            I’ll emboss a couple of screenshots on this subject at the end of the post.

            2. The minimum wage and the cost of living are different categories that are not related to each other ...
            Seriously? belay
            That is, you say that the minimum wage is not the minimum wage, but the cost of living is not the minimum level of LIFE adequate to modern conditions, and not survival for a short period?

            3. What does a summer cottage and intercity transportation have to do with it?
            With all this: or do you think the norm is to get to work, and all other movements can be carried out by foot?

            on 6000 rubles it’s quite possible to eat normally without really saving, this is of course without cafes and restaurants ...
            Of course, excluding laughing
            Do you have any idea about dietetics and occupational medicine, or is your knowledge limited to lectures of federal channels?

            PS Excuse me, but I can't, after what you post, address you on "YOU", so we will continue talking on "YOU" (don't be shy either).
          6. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 2 December 2013 00: 01
            +1
            the cost of living shows one thing, the minimum wage is completely different, are these different indicators that are not correlated with each other, is the smart guy smart?
            secondly, you better give links to pictures - they are not readable ...
            and where did you get that it is your data that you should believe?
          7. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 2 December 2013 12: 28
            -1
            Quote: DanaF1
            the cost of living shows one thing, the minimum wage is completely different, are these different indicators that are not correlated with each other, is the smart guy smart?
            Nicht Fershtein: part 1 of the 133 TC look.

            secondly, you better give links to pictures - they are not readable ...
            Mdyayaya ..... Have you tried to click on a picture? She, you know, from this increases, and at the bottom there is a menu that allows you to increase it even more.

            and where did you get that it is your data that you should believe?
            Bugaga wassat
            That is, the Ministry of Finance and Rosstat are not authorities for you? laughing
  • tolan_petrovich
    tolan_petrovich 2 December 2013 08: 03
    +1
    Who - the average androgyne-normastenik with a height of 170 cm, a normal weight of 60 kg and an age of 50 years?
    And here, sorry, you are driving! Having 3 children, it takes 10000 a month (+; - 2000), and no one can say that something is missing!
  • Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 2 December 2013 12: 39
    -1
    Quote: tolan_petrovich
    Having 3 children, it takes 10000 a month (+; - 2000), and no one can say that something is missing!
    What - are so exhausted that they can’t speak already?

    So who is enough for you, children, or everyone?
    And what is the nutrition structure - everything purchased, or part of the subsidiary farm?
  • Vadivak
    Vadivak 30 November 2013 21: 35
    13
    Quote: Yarosvet
    (as a result of which you will lower the bedridden patient), you also did not know?


    And I think why it was me and the ambulance driver who took the neighbor out of the fourth floor twice. It only goes to the neighbors and counts.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 30 November 2013 21: 49
      +8
      Quote: Vadivak
      It only goes to the neighbors and counts.

      They see 2 healthy men near the house constantly on duty.
    2. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 1 December 2013 20: 37
      +4
      Quote: Vadivak

      And I think why it was me and the ambulance driver who took the neighbor out of the fourth floor twice. It only goes to the neighbors and counts.

      The same story, I helped the neighbors of a lying person with an attack, only a nurse from the brigade, brought a stretcher to the fourth floor, gave an injection! Downstairs, as it turned out, the ambulance driver was smoking! His words - "I don't get paid for this", and so we live!
  • user1212
    user1212 30 November 2013 13: 21
    12
    For being proud of the president, for these failures in our state. Compare what we had and what we have now.

    You seem to have forgotten that the Soviet Union did not collapse Putin
    Yes, and many comparisons are outright lies
  • catapractic
    catapractic 30 November 2013 13: 52
    14
    it is not necessary to idealize the USSR with such tables, yes it was a GREAT EMPIRE and I had the honor to live and serve in it for a while, but there are enough lies and meanness in every society, in the USSR there were many empty declarations, the dominance of party nomenclature, the deficit ... but certainly compared to today's problems is just a trifle.
  • 31231
    31231 30 November 2013 14: 40
    0
    Do you even watch your all-prosperous demotivators ?! Or how about point 4 in this demotivator - do you throw like a Zombie?
  • sprut
    sprut 30 November 2013 15: 19
    0
    The picture is about nothing! You can come up with the same success and vice versa!
  • Current 72
    Current 72 30 November 2013 16: 00
    +4
    I compared and I know well and feel the difference! But answer the question, just honestly, that Putin alone is to blame for this ??? And what would YOU do this hour, with such a powerful oligarchy, with such bureaucrats-changeling and corruption, ONE, without support ??? It is easiest to groan, especially when you can’t get it in the face.
  • Victor-M
    Victor-M 30 November 2013 21: 51
    0
    Quote: vladimirZ
    bomg.77
    Not only am I not ashamed, but as pathetic as it sounds, I am proud of my president !!!


    For being proud of the president, for these failures in our state. Compare what we had and what we have now.
    Proud of nothing!

    You would better compare the post-revolutionary period for 20 years and the period after the collapse of the USSR, and you would realize that you were very lucky that you did not live during the period when the Bolsheviks came to power. And the Bolsheviks did not raise the country for 14 years, like Putin, but more, and with terror. Therefore, in order to compare the facts you have cited, you need to consider everything, including human, ruined by the Bolsheviks of life.
  • rusmat73
    rusmat73 6 December 2013 12: 29
    0
    I was proud of the USSR, now I am proud of Russia.
    and the fact that now there is the Anglo-Saxons have tried to ruin our country, and now they are trying - = but I hope we will overcome all the devastation. RUSSIA will rise from its knees, as Igor Talkov sang. everyone needs to try in their place not only for themselves ...
    I recommend EVERYONE to read the work of Roman Valerievich Zlotnikov - no one will remain indifferent - I guarantee! ;-)
  • Vadivak
    Vadivak 30 November 2013 21: 23
    10
    Quote: bomg.77
    Not only am I not ashamed, but as pathetic as it sounds, I am proud of my president !!!


    After Gorbachev, I don’t believe anyone. Shit in the soul of a reptile.
  • Reyngard
    Reyngard 30 November 2013 14: 18
    -9
    Why not ashamed? Language, as if from ITK. What, he was sitting there? What kind of President is he who speaks the "hair dryer"?
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 30 November 2013 22: 06
      10
      Quote: Reyngard
      Language, as if from ITK.


      This is our misfortune. No rosenbaums and logging should be heard and no house 2 should be watched ....
      1. Eugeniy_369
        Eugeniy_369 1 December 2013 13: 16
        +1
        Quote: Vadivak
        This is our misfortune.

        I think this is the fault of the person who says so, and we have nothing to do with it.
  • fedorovith
    fedorovith 30 November 2013 19: 06
    -3
    Did you mean EBN ........?
  • Sashkessss
    Sashkessss 1 December 2013 12: 19
    -2
    Quote: maxvet
    In any case, the GDP is not ashamed when he advocates, remember BNE.

    More precisely and not to say. You feel respect for having such a president
  • shark
    shark 30 November 2013 09: 28
    26
    Your Nazarbayev is also a strong leader. You can say the patriarch. The Old Man is in Belarus. There is a tendency - countries that did not fall under Uncle Sam have strong charismatic leaders.
  • Onyx
    Onyx 30 November 2013 10: 12
    +2
    Quote: hommer
    GDP is the same hired capital manager

    In fact, 64% of voters voted for Putin. What kind of capitalist manager are you talking about?
  • Ascetic
    Ascetic 30 November 2013 13: 48
    33
    Quote: hommer
    But how people quickly get used to the good. And rightly so - the best is the enemy of the good.
  • APES
    APES 30 November 2013 14: 10
    +8
    Quote: hommer
    GDP is the same hired capital manager

    Someone considers him one of the richest people on the planet, so who is hiring someone else?
    Quote: hommer
    he sincerely wishes prosperity for Russia

    he sincerely wants the prosperity of his business business, and power is the control of income business.
    Quote: hommer
    I think that inside Russia

    he is not alone, but one of the group of comrades who hold the topic, the same Sechin-Ivanov in the internal hierarchy is no lower than him, and he is responsible for PR - or else a sign behind which the truth is hiding

    Quote: hommer
    within Russia there will be successes comparable to foreign policy.

    will - only Medvedev will have to answer for these "successes"
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 30 November 2013 22: 15
      15
      Quote: APES
      he is not alone, but one of a group of comrades who hold the topic,


      Russian President Vladimir Putin said that although there are flaws in the activities of the Rusnano company led by Anatoly Chubais, they cannot be qualified as a crime. Putin made this statement during the Direct Line, answering the question of when Chubais would be "behind bars."

      According to the president, at present Rusnano’s losses amount to 2,5 billion rubles. At the same time, Putin noted, theft should be distinguished from simply inefficient investments. He added that the field of high technology is quite complicated, and it is very difficult to avoid mistakes in it. Therefore, the president chose to refrain from evaluating the company's activities. The president also praised the activities of Chubais in the 1990s, when he was a member of the government. According to him, then Chubais and his entourage made many mistakes, but thanks to this they were able to change the entire structure of the economy. The President believes that someone should have done this and found the courage to do this.
      1. demel2
        demel2 1 December 2013 08: 56
        +3
        Yes, Putin can’t plant Chubais or simply remove him from the feeder. For Chubais, the Vandelberg Club. Knowledgeable people know what kind of office this is.
  • Reyngard
    Reyngard 30 November 2013 14: 11
    -7
    Are you sure that Putin wants Russia to prosper? In my opinion, he wishes prosperity for his "druei", and Russia and the Russians are up to his ass!
    1. 31231
      31231 30 November 2013 14: 50
      +6
      In my opinion, he wishes prosperity for his "druei", and Russia and the Russians are up to his ass!

      Og, he organized a allowance for his second child for his friends, he began to allocate finances for his defense for his friends. It is he who, contrary to the United States, supports Assad for his friends.
      When will you stop talking in cliches? And you start to operate with arguments and facts?
  • Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 30 November 2013 14: 15
    -8
    Quote: hommer
    With all the ambiguous attitude towards GDP, one cannot but admit the presence of changes for the better
    What conceptual changes have you seen?

    but the fact that he sincerely wishes the prosperity of Russia cannot be denied
    Yes, why? Did you interrogate him under drugs to make a similar conclusion?
    About what a person wants, they say the affairs of a person, and things in this case are worthless.

    I think that within Russia there will be success comparable to foreign policy
    How long have you been thinking so? And how much more are you going to think - up to the 24th?

    In any case, there is a positive trend.
    In what?
    1. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx 30 November 2013 16: 36
      +4
      Quote: Yarosvet
      What conceptual changes have you seen?
      In what?

      How about increasing the average salary level by 30 times?
      inflation reduction from 200% to unfortunate 5-6%
      increase birth rates and reduce mortality?
      Have you heard about the blackouts?
      But about salary debts to teachers and doctors?
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 30 November 2013 17: 38
        +1
        Quote: DanaF1
        How about increasing the average salary level by 30 times?
        How about the correspondence of the minimum wage to the cost of living, and the cost of living of reality?

        inflation reduction from 200% to unfortunate 5-6%
        Oh really? Calculate grocery basket inflation?

        increase birth rates and reduce mortality?
        Where - in the Caucasus?

        Have you heard about the blackouts?
        But about salary debts to teachers and doctors?

        I heard about the freezing rain, I heard about Pikalevo, I heard about the debt of over 3 billion as of 01.10.13
        1. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 30 November 2013 19: 42
          -1
          it’s just a tantrum, because you don’t give any specific data ...
          Is 100 dollars a salary in 2000 with a living wage of the same 100 dollars is better than a salary of well at least 1000 dollars with a living wage of 200 dollars?
          what really inflation remained in 200%?
          if you look at the statistics, you will understand that the birth rate in the Caucasus only in Dagestan is slightly higher than the average for Russia (I hope you will find it yourself), in the remaining Caucasian regions it is the same or less than the national average ...

          Can I link to debt?

          and yes, Putin is personally to blame for the freezing rain !!! what else is he to blame? in the voluntary lobotomy of some members of society?
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 30 November 2013 20: 53
            +2
            Quote: DanaF1
            it’s just a tantrum, because you don’t give any specific data ...
            And you mean bring?

            Is 100 dollars a salary in 2000 with a living wage of the same 100 dollars is better than a salary of well at least 1000 dollars with a living wage of 200 dollars?
            Of course worse, but:
            1 Per capita income of over 30000 is only 25% of the population.
            2 Real inflation from 2000 to the 12th year averaged over 40% per year.
            3 So how much do you need per year for a nutritious diet (without this it is difficult to provide specific data)?

            what really inflation remained in 200%?
            Olya - where did you get these 200% from?

            if you look at the statistics, you will understand that the birth rate in the Caucasus only in Dagestan is slightly higher than the average for Russia (I hope you will find it yourself), in the remaining Caucasian regions it is the same or less than the national average ...
            The fact of the matter is that I looked and saw only a slight increase in the birth rate in traditionally Russian territories.
            And if you look at the dynamics of the birth rate over the past 40 years, then the reason for this growth becomes clear: from 78 to 88 there was a surge in the birth rate. Now those born at that time are of childbearing age and at least give birth. It will last somewhere until 20-25, and then there will be a sharp decline, so there is nothing to rejoice about.

            and yes, Putin is personally to blame for the freezing rain !!!
            Putin is responsible for all systemic issues - this is his job (by the way, it’s very strange to watch how the podfilers otvazyvayut Vova on those issues in which they blame EBNya).
            1. 31231
              31231 1 December 2013 11: 08
              0
              1 Per capita income of over 30000 is only 25% of the population.


              Black salary and kalym did not consider ?! In our office, the official is one third of what is received on hand.

              2 Real inflation from 2000 to the 12th year averaged over 40% per year.


              The dollar in 2000 - 27 rubles, Today - 32, and more. You don't mean to say that the dollar has an average annual inflation rate of 35% from 2000 to 2013? Can you tell me how you calculated the "real" inflation?
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 1 December 2013 12: 52
                +4
                Quote: 31231
                Black salary and kalym did not consider ?! In our office, the official is one third of what is received on hand
                I already realized that you work in a semi-criminal office and do not pay taxes. That is, Seryozha is a criminal, with which I congratulate you.

                And now, be kind enough to give official information on the level of per capita income, taking into account black salaries and kalym (I remind you that you yourself regularly require official information)

                The dollar in 2000 - 27 rubles, Today - 32, and more. You don't mean to say that the dollar has an average annual inflation rate of 35% from 2000 to 2013? Can you tell me how you calculated the "real" inflation?
                And who told you that inflation in Russia is tied to dollar inflation? It is tied to an administrative increase in tariff prices.
                Dollar inflation is within 3% per annum, while the growth of housing and communal services tariffs from 2000 to 12 is an average of 1500%, and electricity is 1000%.

                Look at the difference between PPP growth and nominal GDP growth for the period - you will get a real inflation rate. You can also see the level of GDP deflator.
                1. 31231
                  31231 1 December 2013 13: 19
                  0
                  And now, be kind enough to give official information on the level of per capita income, taking into account black salaries and kalym (I remind you that you yourself regularly require official information)

                  Do not ask stupid questions. There can be no official information on black salary and kalym. Bggg. Unless only at Echo Matzah. So I brought you the data for the office in which I work. Do you consider her criminal ?! Have you heard anything about the presumption of innocence? You yourself are probably a saint ?!

                  Look at the difference between PPP growth and nominal GDP growth for the period - you will get a real inflation rate. You can also see the level of GDP deflator.

                  Bgg. Why did I expect this answer. Only the most gifted can seriously take the growth of teaching staff and draw far-reaching conclusions from it. Can you tell me how it is with this indicator in Germany, France, Great Britain?
                  Link, http://pivopotam.livejournal.com/87615.html for hard-headed and reasoning people. You can not read. Published for thinking readers.
                  1. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 1 December 2013 14: 36
                    +2
                    Quote: 31231
                    Official information on black salary and kalym can not be
                    And if so, then why the hell are you B / W and kalym in the form of an argument? - this is the first.
                    And secondly, per capita income statistics are not the same as salary data. But both of these data are not collected through the study of accounting statements, so the data from Rosstat is correct.

                    Do you consider her criminal ?! Have you heard anything about the presumption of innocence?
                    Have you heard about latent crime?

                    You yourself are probably a saint ?!
                    And what - is it imperceptible?

                    Only the most gifted can take the growth of teaching staff seriously and draw far-reaching conclusions from it.
                    Strong argument laughing
                    You will find and calculate the data on foreign countries (of course, if you are interested in the real situation and you really want to compare, rather than trying to break off)
                  2. 31231
                    31231 1 December 2013 14: 58
                    0
                    You will find and calculate the data on foreign countries (of course, if you are interested in the real situation and you really want to compare, rather than trying to break off)


                    They are already here Alexey Volodin in the article gave. I hope you were attentive and read that in almost all of Europe the PPP GDP growth is the same or lower than the Russian value. The funny thing is that none of the Europeans counted inflation on this indicator at 40% percent.
                  3. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 1 December 2013 16: 48
                    +1
                    Quote: 31231
                    In almost all of Europe, PPP GDP growth is the same or lower than the Russian level

                    We look in the book, which is called ...

                    I’m telling you not to compare our growth with the European one, but to compare the growth of GDP of PPPs for example Germany with the growth of nominal GDP of Germany, the growth of GDP of PPPs of France with the growth of nominal GDP of France etc.

                    In Europe, the growth of both PPP and the nominal value coincide (within the statistical error), and in Russia the gap between the PPP growth and the nominal of 500% over 12 years, while a number of factors indicate a reduction in production (excluding the oil and gas sector) to 25% 99-2000 years, and GDP as such is just the total amount of transactions.

                    I don’t understand - you really don’t get into what it means, or you have a task like that - purposefully ignoring the obvious?
        2. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 1 December 2013 11: 30
          +1
          as you said there, say A, then say B ...

          links to all the data in the studio!
    2. 31231
      31231 1 December 2013 11: 48
      -2
      How about the correspondence of the minimum wage to the cost of living, and the cost of living of reality?

      The minimum wage in 2000 is 200 rubles. 2013 minimum wage - 5205 rubles.
      The minimum cost of living in 2001 is 1515 rubles. (Pensioners)
      Minimum subsistence minimum for the 1st quarter of 2013 - 5828 rubles. (Pensioners)

      I hope the work does not amount to calculate the percentage of the minimum wage from the minimum living wage?
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 1 December 2013 12: 56
        +5
        Quote: 31231
        I hope the work does not amount to calculate the percentage of the minimum wage from the minimum living wage?

        Do you need good nutrition per year, provided prices remain constant, how much do you need?
        1. 31231
          31231 1 December 2013 13: 39
          0
          The question is not how much is needed. At present, the Russian budget does not have such an opportunity to pay benefits in Germany. The question is that the minimum wage is growing during the reign of Putin faster than inflation. Although you chat about the degradation of social programs.
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 1 December 2013 14: 38
            0
            Quote: 31231

            Do not go to the market - how much?
  • POMA
    POMA 30 November 2013 22: 02
    -4
    Yarosvet, you generally live in Russia, after the 90s the changes are Explicit.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 30 November 2013 22: 34
      +6
      Quote: POMA
      Yarosvet, you generally live in Russia, after the 90s the changes are Explicit.

      Yeah - explicit:
      Explicit degradation of the social sphere, starting with medicine and ending with education.
      Explicit degradation of the production sector (the existing budget of the Russian Federation was supposed to achieve with a share of oil and gas revenues in the budget = 18% | as in 99th |, and reach them with a share of 49%)
      Explicit degradation of the legal system - the guarantor of the Constitution violates the Constitution, far and wide, continuing to turn the socially constitutional state into a feudal estate.
      The clear progress of corruption - in the year 09, the dwarfs themselves said that the size of the corruption market reached 300 lard (86% of the budget)

      Obviously there is not a single conceptual change, not a single global trend towards improvement.
      1. 31231
        31231 1 December 2013 12: 13
        -3
        Maybe the official info, rather than fictitious, bring the facts of degradation?
        I hope you understand what the word degradation means?
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 1 December 2013 12: 29
          +4
          Quote: 31231
          Maybe the official info, rather than fictitious, bring the facts of degradation?
          I hope you understand what the word degradation means?

          Serezha, you always demand official information (and not only from me), but you have never refuted anything in fact.
          Tell me - with what joy should I rummage around at the Rosstat bases or on the Kremlin website, just to post a link or a screen with info confirming the obvious?

          What do you officially confirm?
          That thousands of hospitals and schools were closed, that people travel for 100-200 km?
          That the size of the budget does not have time to grow due to an increase in taxes, and therefore production is sagging?
          That the courts make obviously unjust decisions, and without dough and connections, who the hell can you prove?
          What is violated by the Constitution, and relations between the government and society are close to feudal?
          What corruption (and this is not only bribes) rolls over?

          Try to name at least one sphere, the acre of oil-gas-sucking, naturally monopolistic and mediating, in which there would generally be a positive trend.
          1. 31231
            31231 1 December 2013 13: 05
            -3
            I repeat once again. Do you know the meaning of the word degradation you use? So you want to say that from 1999 to 2013 (during the reign of Putin, without noticing the days of DAM), the country degraded?
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 1 December 2013 13: 44
              -1
              Quote: 31231
              So you want to say that from 1999 to 2013 the country has degraded?

              So.

              It’s like an old house, the facade of which is plastered / painted, new windows are inserted into the windows - while the ceilings are rotting, the roof is flowing, and the rooms are peeling off in the rooms.

              Something like that:
              1. 31231
                31231 1 December 2013 14: 49
                -2
                So.


                Do you consider these two words as an argument ?!
                Well then, I have nothing to discuss with you, because in response to clearly stated only demagogy.
  • Victor-M
    Victor-M 30 November 2013 23: 23
    -3
    Quote: Yarosvet
    About what a person wants, they say the affairs of a person, and things in this case are worthless.

    It’s evident that you’re doing good on the campaign, have you already made up a report with a report on the comments you left?
  • kris
    kris 1 December 2013 00: 29
    +6
    HOW MUCH WISHING TO LICK THE AUTHORIZED ASS!
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 1 December 2013 06: 33
      0
      Now I understand why Russia is in the pit and why, for so long trying to get out of it.
      Look how many supporters of Putin and his team we have (Medvedev, Serdyukov, Abramovich, Kadyrov, Chubais, etc., etc., “guardians” for the “people's cause”.
      At the time, the same number of active members were in the teams of Judah Gorbachev and the drunkard of the EBN puppet, who destroyed the second world power for 30 American pieces of silver.
      1. 31231
        31231 1 December 2013 12: 27
        -4
        Look how many supporters of Putin and his team we have (Medvedev, Serdyukov, Abramovich, Kadyrov, Chubais, etc., etc., “guardians” for the “people's cause”.
        At the time, the same number of active members were in the teams of Judah Gorbachev and the drunkard of the EBN puppet, who destroyed the second world power for 30 American pieces of silver.


        What kind of illness do you have ?! Do you call opponents Putininoids, hang labels on them, speak not for yourself, but for the entire population of Russia?
        Do you really think that by this you show your education and foresight ?!
        I am trying to ask your reasonable questions about GDP and give you arguments confirmed by statistics. Do I hear fictitious words and cliches?
        If I want stability in the country, why are you recording me as fans of the thief Serdyukov?
    2. Eugeniy_369
      Eugeniy_369 1 December 2013 13: 39
      +3
      Quote: kris
      HOW MUCH WISHING TO LICK THE AUTHORIZED ASS!

      To the point laughing laughing laughing
      The best commentary for describing the talking room around the article. good
      1. Sakmagon
        Sakmagon 1 December 2013 14: 50
        +1
        kris
        HOW MUCH WISHING TO LICK THE AUTHORIZED ASS!

        To the point of laughing laughing laughing
        The best commentary for describing the talking room around the article.

        Nah!
        HOW MUCH WISHING TO GRAB ON THE PRIOR
        (ESPECIALLY KNOWING THAT THERE WILL NOT BE ANYTHING FOR THIS!)
        IMMEDIATELY FEEL YOURSELF A TITANIUM TITAN..FATHER OF RUSSIAN DEMOCRACY ...
        AT LEAST FOR OUR COUNTRY I DID NOT DO ANYTHING
        1. Eugeniy_369
          Eugeniy_369 1 December 2013 22: 25
          0
          [
          Quote: Sacmagon
          HOW MUCH WISHING TO GRAB ON THE PRIOR
          (ESPECIALLY KNOWING THAT THERE WILL NOT BE ANYTHING FOR THIS!)
          IMMEDIATELY FEEL YOURSELF A TITANIUM TITAN..FATHER OF RUSSIAN DEMOCRACY ...

          And here nobody is on V.V. Putin did not blather stop .
          The man spoke out about the talking room around the article, my opinion is very apt laughing .
          Quote: Sacmagon
          AT LEAST FOR OUR COUNTRY I DID NOT DO ANYTHING

          Eka you dug ... what Did you understand what you wrote? request
  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 5 December 2013 20: 11
    0
    Quote: hommer
    GDP is the same hired capital manager

    Suppose .. But then with:
    Quote: hommer
    but the fact that he sincerely wishes the prosperity of Russia cannot be denied.

    After all, a mercenary always carries out someone else's order and his opinion is not taken into account.
    You will not argue with the fact that a country under EBN and a country with GDP are two different countries, the latter being very different for the better!
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 30 November 2013 08: 33
    36
    Quote: andrei332809
    when the Serduks sit down, the Medvedevs cease to steer, then we pat. maybe we’ll even arrange a standing ovation.

    And now Putin is bad, let’s overthrow him. Essentially, the people have no complaints, Serdyukov’s outskirts and corruption. As for Serdyukov, I wrote everything yesterday, and as for corruption, we are part of it, and it always has been. The only thing is that they talk about it now, but not before. did not finish.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 30 November 2013 09: 43
      27
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Quote: andrei332809
      when the Serduks sit down, the Medvedevs cease to steer, then we pat. maybe we’ll even arrange a standing ovation.
      And now Putin is bad, let’s overthrow him. Essentially, the people have no complaints, Serdyukov’s okrom and corruption

      What we have - we do not store, having lost - weep.
      Taburetkin should be imprisoned not by the GDP, but by the court, based on the facts collected by the TFR and the prosecutor's office. Or has someone forgotten how they recently lamented about "telephone law"?
      GDP is better off on the foreign policy front because there, as president, the entire apparatus of the Foreign Ministry is subordinate to it. And inside the country, the list of health is not enough for fans of creeping sabotage and "Italian strikes".
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      and about corruption, we ourselves are part of it

      That's it.
      Behind myself, my beloved, I do not want to notice any sins / sins.
    2. APES
      APES 30 November 2013 14: 16
      +6
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Now Putin is bad

      and there’s no one to replace it with ......
    3. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 30 November 2013 14: 29
      -8
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      In fact, the people have no complaints, okromy Serdyukov and corruption

      laughing Why are you smoking ??? Claims: social injustice, housing and communal services, education, medicine, thieves privatization, pension fraud, reduction of the army and military bases, removal of the Russian people from power, corrupt courts, reduction of the indigenous population of the Russian Federation. This is so offhand. The president was even afraid to go to the pre-election debate, for he simply has no answers to these claims!
      1. APES
        APES 30 November 2013 14: 39
        +9
        Quote: S_mirnov
        Claims: social injustice, housing and communal services, education, medicine

        it's not him, it's the bears
        Quote: S_mirnov
        thieves privatization,

        this is chubais
        Quote: S_mirnov
        reduction of army and military bases

        this is serdyukov
        Quote: S_mirnov
        removal of the people of Russia from power

        this is yeltsin
        Quote: S_mirnov
        corrupt courts

        this is corruption
        Quote: S_mirnov
        reduction of the indigenous population of the Russian Federation

        this is drunkenness and smoking - Onishchenko said
        Quote: S_mirnov
        Why are you smoking ???

        Do you think he is the only one?

        Quote: S_mirnov
        for he simply has no answers to these claims!

        there is - "and all together we are SHOW Ural dumplings"
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 30 November 2013 15: 03
          +9
          Quote: APES
          it's not him, it's the bears
          Quote: S_mirnov
          thieves privatization,

          this is chubais
          Quote: S_mirnov
          reduction of army and military bases

          this is serdyukov

          Thank you for having fun! laughing
      2. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx 30 November 2013 16: 40
        +4
        Quote: S_mirnov
        thieves privatization,

        and Kennedy ... Putin too?
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 30 November 2013 21: 17
          +6
          Quote: DanaF1
          and Kennedy ... Putin too?

          No, why so primitive. I think the GDP of that ... Ilyukhin, Rokhlin, and Shutov closed for life.
          1. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 1 December 2013 11: 33
            0
            Quote: S_mirnov
            No, why so primitive. I think the GDP of that ... Ilyukhin, Rokhlin, and Shutov closed for life.

            the impression is that here the forum of the ear mozi moved ...
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 1 December 2013 12: 02
              +5
              Quote: DanaF1
              the impression is that here the forum of the ear mozi moved ...

              No, dear Dana ...
              These are the same people who on the anniversary of the October Revolution threw themselves with the slogans of the ghoul who had died in a Bose ... crying
              It’s always numbed like that - any power is bad, but it, sinless, is always smarter and fairer than all.
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 1 December 2013 13: 10
                +3
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                Quote: DanaF1
                the impression is that here the forum of the ear mozi moved ...
                No, dear Dana ...
                These are the same people who on the anniversary of the October Revolution threw themselves with the slogans of the ghoul who had died in a Bose ...

                The "counter" of the number of permanent revolutionaries in the upper right corner only confirms my correctness - "The cap is on fire for a thief!" laughing
                1. Danafxnumx
                  Danafxnumx 1 December 2013 17: 34
                  +1
                  Quote: stalkerwalker
                  The "counter" of the number of permanent revolutionaries in the upper right corner only confirms my correctness - "The cap is on fire for a thief!"

                  yes for sure ...
            2. Eugeniy_369
              Eugeniy_369 1 December 2013 13: 45
              +6
              Quote: DanaF1
              the impression is that here the forum of the ear mozi moved ...

              And after him all the footcloths came running fellow .
              1. Danafxnumx
                Danafxnumx 1 December 2013 17: 36
                +1
                Quote: Eugeniy_369
                And after him all the footcloths fled.

                excuse me, but who is this "footcloth"?
                commentators expressing a pro-Russian point of view?
                What is liberoid terminology?
                1. Eugeniy_369
                  Eugeniy_369 1 December 2013 19: 28
                  +1
                  Quote: DanaF1
                  excuse me, but who is this "footcloth"?

                  Same as "ear motsi". wassat
                  Quote: DanaF1
                  commentators expressing a pro-Russian point of view?

                  That's it pro-Russian, and not pro-Putin, or as they used to say "Louis what is there in the account" - "The state is me"?
                  Quote: DanaF1
                  What is liberoid terminology?

                  Kind words do not distort, do not
                  Quote: DanaF1
                  liberoid
                  but liberal.
                  Repeat about the pro-Russian point of view, but didn’t learn Russian? hi
                  1. Danafxnumx
                    Danafxnumx 1 December 2013 19: 54
                    -1
                    Quote: Eugeniy_369
                    Kind words do not distort, do not

                    for you, apparently, the Russian is not native at all, given that I am amiable, not amiable)))
                    Quote: Eugeniy_369
                    but liberal.
                    Repeat about the pro-Russian point of view, but didn’t learn Russian?

                    for your information, footcloths - rags for wrapping legs ...
                    where do you speak Russian taught? in langley?
                    1. Eugeniy_369
                      Eugeniy_369 1 December 2013 20: 10
                      +2
                      Quote: DanaF1
                      that I am amiable, not amiable)))

                      Oh sorry excuse me love . Profile did not look.
                      Quote: DanaF1
                      for your information, footcloths - rags for wrapping legs ..

                      I know it repeat , so I took the word of footcloth in quotation marks, to whom I need to think I understood what I wanted to say laughing .
                      Quote: DanaF1
                      where do you speak Russian taught? in langley?

                      I didn’t say where I taught, but for you I’ll tell you in a secondary school No. 5 of one provincial town.
                      But I understand that the dialogue will not work, your principle is "dur.k himself." It's a pity sad . Here on the forum ladies rarely come across.
                      PS
                      Quote: DanaF1
                      in langley?

                      "Langley" is written with a capital letter, don't you wake up to argue with that?
                      By the way about "ear motsi" silence?
                    2. Danafxnumx
                      Danafxnumx 1 December 2013 21: 36
                      -1
                      Quote: Eugeniy_369
                      Langley "is written with a capital letter, won't you argue with that?
                      By the way about the "ear motsi" silence?

                      how to spell langley, I know very well)))
                      as for the ear of mozi, then in Zionist terminology and its grammar I am not strong))))
                    3. Eugeniy_369
                      Eugeniy_369 1 December 2013 21: 54
                      0
                      Quote: DanaF1
                      how to spell langley, I know very well)))

                      Then why arrange a circus?
                      Quote: DanaF1
                      as for the ear of mozi, then in Zionist terminology and its grammar I am not strong))))

                      And why then did you use this phrase? Aah laughing probably for beauty hi .
                    4. Danafxnumx
                      Danafxnumx 2 December 2013 00: 05
                      0
                      Quote: Eugeniy_369
                      Then why arrange a circus?

                      what circus, fear God?
                      why am I supposed to write with a capital letter this place of deployment of enemy intelligence?
                      no, well, of course, I understand that you are offended ... but still you should not be so scared ...
                    5. Eugeniy_369
                      Eugeniy_369 2 December 2013 00: 41
                      0
                      Quote: DanaF1
                      fear God?

                      They did not accept the name of the Lord your God in vain.
                      Quote: DanaF1
                      why am I supposed to write with a capital letter this place of deployment of enemy intelligence?

                      This is primarily a district in Fairfax County, Virginia, and then a synonym for the CIA.
                      Quote: DanaF1
                      no, well, of course, I understand that you are offended ... but still you should not be so scared ...

                      Well, this is a circus, or rather "kindergarten Lopushok on a walk" wink .
                      PS Speaking of birds ... they wrote that in Hebrew they are not strong and where "ear motsi" have taken? Apparently you are cunning .... you are underreporting .... you should go hard with a pencil on the profile then ... hi
  • Eugeniy_369
    Eugeniy_369 1 December 2013 13: 44
    0
    Quote: S_mirnov
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    In fact, the people have no complaints, okromy Serdyukov and corruption
    Why are you smoking ???

    Don't even argue wink. Commodity at work laughing laughing laughing .
  • Garrin
    Garrin 30 November 2013 16: 42
    11
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    In fact, the people have no complaints, Serdyukov okroms and corruption.

    Where does infa come from? Ready to answer for all the people?
    1. Eugeniy_369
      Eugeniy_369 1 December 2013 13: 48
      +2
      Quote: Garrin
      Ready to answer for all the people?

      True noticed good , here on the forum, some "higher ranks" like to give out their opinion for the general. I think they write according to the instructions.
  • demel2
    demel2 1 December 2013 09: 18
    +4
    But is Serdyukov and this corruption and the export of lards over the hill is not enough?
  • HF
    HF 30 November 2013 09: 41
    20
    Well, what kind of people are we, so stubborn? "Yes, everything in foreign policy is in order," but one hell it's bad. When will we rejoice and be proud of our Motherland? Probably on their deathbed many will be dissatisfied with the Motherland? It is necessary to support Putin, to the best of his ability, and not to find fault. I'm even afraid to imagine what kind of scum he has to fight in Russia, and even more so abroad ...
    1. kenvas
      kenvas 30 November 2013 11: 04
      15
      Personally, Putin impresses me. The strongest politician, today in the international arena he has no equal! Confident, educated person with a sense of humor! He really is a fan of Russia, IMHO. It seems to me that although he is not Stalin, he has a rod inside! Yes, not everything is good in Russia, but there are many problems, but I believe that they will be resolved and resolved radically, it was not in vain that the ground was prepared, 6 years in office, with a subsequent chance to be re-elected! He, as a military man (albeit a former one), understands perfectly well that Russia has only 2 friends, the Army and the Navy! Under him, Russia rises from its knees and again, as before, reborn as a geopolitical force with which it is forced to reckon. This has not happened since the collapse of the USSR. In general, I believe in him. it's my opinion
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 30 November 2013 12: 04
        -5
        "Putin is an experienced executive, unlike Western leaders, who are mostly professional collectors of campaign sponsorship." -
        I am simply touched by the flows of sweet syrup about GDP laughing
        Let's think together, if the GDP is an experienced manager and REALLY governs our country, then imagine how long it should take? Remember at least the REAL director of a large plant, does he have a lot of free time? And then to rule the whole country, and even with major problems in the economy and a corrupt vertical!
        Instead of this hard work, we observe how GDP: rides on Kalina, a combine harvester, saves tigers, puts out fires, takes out amphora from under water, plunges into Lake Baikal, etc. This is the behavior of a typical media personality! Approximately as surrogate motherhood Pugacheva. Before us is an actor playing the role of the President; he simply has no time to rule the country! All the time goes to PR. It is obvious.
        The State Duma of the Russian Federation is just as absurd, there are actors, boxers, athletes and models (clowns of the same type as Zhirinovsky and Zyuganov), you look closely at these characters carefully, this is a circus!
        And if the president and the thought are just actors, then who really runs our country? We don’t know this because he doesn’t need fame. We can only judge by the results of his activities ...
        for example, NATO military cargo transit through the territory of the Russian Federation
        "Resolution of the Government of the Russian Federation of March 28, 2008 N 219
        "On the procedure for land and combined (rail, road and air transport) transit through the territory of the Russian Federation of weapons, military equipment and military property going to the International Security Assistance Force in the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan and in the opposite direction"
        http://base.garant.ru/12159587/
        1. Yura
          Yura 30 November 2013 12: 51
          +6
          Quote: S_mirnov
          I am simply touched by the flows of sweet syrup about GDP

          The presence of your posts for a rather long time, but I have no doubt that the style and content of them will not change for a long time, once again suggests that you are mildly biased, every negative moment you describe has a face of a specific person, look around you and you will see that these people are most often completely different people, some of them are yours, mine, our acquaintances, employees of institutions with whom we are forced to communicate for various reasons, business leaders concerned about the state of their pockets and not the enterprise, you can list for a long time, but why not, it is useless until you yourself want to see something other than the concrete wall of which you surrounded yourself.
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 30 November 2013 23: 32
            +7
            Quote: Jura
            The presence of your posts for quite some time, and I have no doubt that the style and content of them will not change for a long time,

            There is still a chance! If, for example, the GDP cancels the results of privatization, refunds or at least tries to return the money taken out by officials and oligarchs from Russia, prosecutes and recognizes Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Chubais, Gaidar as criminals, purges the state apparatus, courts, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB and the army from bribes, the ruble is not convertible and will liberate Russia from dollar dependence, I swear I will hang his portrait at home and will tell you everywhere what good fellow he is !!!
            Quote: Jura
            every negative moment described by you has a face of a specific person,

            And I even know thanks to whom these people came to power smile "what is the pop, so is the arrival"

            Quote: Jura
            it is useless until you yourself want to see something other than the concrete wall of which you yourself surrounded.

            I just suggest that you look beyond the edge of this concrete wall, built by the media and TV around the citizens of the Russian Federation.
            "Follow the White Rabbit" Yura! wink
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUZ6pxT4XyU
            or stay sleep
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gj0TjiWBV8
            Be healthy!
            1. Yura
              Yura 1 December 2013 00: 19
              +2
              Quote: S_mirnov
              Be healthy!

              And you do not cough, in the sense of not getting sick. hi
            2. Victor-M
              Victor-M 1 December 2013 00: 21
              -5
              Quote: S_mirnov
              If, for example, the GDP cancels the results of privatization, refunds or at least tries to return the money taken out by officials and oligarchs from Russia, prosecutes and recognizes Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Chubais, Gaidar as criminals, purges the state apparatus, courts, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB and the army from bribes, the ruble is not convertible and will liberate Russia from dollar dependence, I swear I will hang his portrait at home and will tell you everywhere what good fellow he is !!!

              Not afraid to fall under this very purge? Who knows who you really are?
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 1 December 2013 10: 40
                +4
                Quote: Victor-M
                Not afraid to fall under this very purge?

                No I'm not afraid. I earn my living by honest labor. But to die at the hands of thieves is quite possible. So here we must be aware that nothing will change by itself. And if you don't want to risk anything, admire those around you and express your approval! Only then it is better not to think about the future, but as the TV teaches - "take everything from life" and "live in the present."
        2. user1212
          user1212 30 November 2013 12: 54
          +1
          Before us is an actor playing the role of the President; he simply has no time to rule the country! All the time goes to PR. It is obvious.

          I haven’t read more delirium for a long time
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 30 November 2013 14: 09
            -5
            Quote: user1212
            I haven’t read more delirium for a long time

            denial of reality is inherent in people like you. I advise you to read the book by Victor Pelevin "The Hermit and the Six-Fingered" there it is written about you
            http://fb2knigi.net/prose_genres/prose_contemporary/4204-zatvornik-i-shestipalyy
            .html
            1. POMA
              POMA 30 November 2013 22: 08
              -11 qualifying.
              Yes, everything is clear with him, he not only smokes anything, he also reads Pelevin, he has nooooool of his thoughts.
              1. POMA
                POMA 2 December 2013 16: 48
                +2
                Zaminusili, only I wanted to say one thing with this phrase, I need to think with my own brains, an educated person should always have his own point of view, and not refer to pseudo-writers.
              2. user1212
                user1212 3 December 2013 04: 56
                +2
                In terms of the number of minuses, I will assume that it is not fashionable to have your point of view here. There are cons, but no comments. Disagree, but nothing to say wink
                1. Same lech
                  Same lech 3 December 2013 05: 02
                  +2
                  old-fashioned, I have my own point of view and also get minuses, but I don’t chew on snot about fashion, but I try to defend the same point of view with reason.
                  1. user1212
                    user1212 3 December 2013 05: 09
                    +3
                    Already fixed. Reasoned enough? Really strange so many minuses and not a single comment
                    1. Same lech
                      Same lech 3 December 2013 05: 19
                      +2
                      sympathize, our people do not suffer tolerance smile
                    2. user1212
                      user1212 3 December 2013 06: 48
                      +3
                      Yes, it's not even tolerance. The USSR has collapsed - Putin is to blame, the light in the staircase is off - Putin is to blame, the tigress gave birth at the zoo - well, you understand wink
          2. user1212
            user1212 3 December 2013 04: 46
            +2
            So that's where this nonsense comes from. You are probably looking for reality in Pelevin’s books :)
      2. Current 72
        Current 72 30 November 2013 16: 19
        +2
        Smirnov sit in his chair and steered, and then bark as much as you want !!!
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 30 November 2013 21: 18
          +8
          Quote: Current 72
          Sit Smirnov in his chair and steered,

          Ready when the chair is free there?
          1. user1212
            user1212 3 December 2013 06: 08
            +1
            Well, imagine your economic and social program. How are you going to fight poverty?
            It would be nice to know about you. What did you manage, what big projects for the homeland have been completed (without cutting the budget). We can’t choose a person as president, knowing only his nickname on the forum smile
            But I'm afraid the whole "social program" will consist of a proposal to put all the rich in prison (it is better to shoot), and give the good to the people. It was already.
    2. Yura
      Yura 30 November 2013 12: 23
      +9
      Quote: kenvas
      Under him, Russia rises from its knees and again, as before, reborn as a geopolitical force with which it is forced to reckon. This has not happened since the collapse of the USSR.

      You can add to this that all this is without rearing, the gallows and the executioner's ax. Changes in Russia have not been without them since the time of the name that I would not even have undertaken, because I do not know such ones.
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  • alicante11
    alicante11 30 November 2013 12: 50
    16
    You understand. For example, I am proud of Russia, my homeland. But the superstructure over it in the form of an oligarchic state of the Russian Federation is annoying. The state must exist for the people, and we have the people for the state, which is represented by a handful of oligarchs who stole our land, our resources, our industry and created to protect against us, this state. In which we protect ourselves from the wealth stolen from us, officials, policemen and bandits.
    As for the GDP, yes, he needs to say thanks for preserving Russia. But now the actions of the team led by him, acting in the interests of the oligarchs, are beginning to harm the country. This has not yet affected foreign policy. But domestic policy does not hold water. Rising prices for everything, for fuel, el. energy, utility tariffs, products, consumer goods, pinching small businesses to please large monopolists and state corporations, poor work of officials, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and courts, which people quite reasonably do not believe. Problems with education and healthcare. Well, I generally will not say anything about corruption. This is perhaps the least of troubles. If people kept a balance of interests of their pockets and assigned business, then figs would be with them. And all the same, this will affect the future and foreign policy, will lead to failures in it and the collapse of all undertakings, as was the case with tsarism, which was a copy of the current state, during WWII.
    1. orizonti
      orizonti 30 November 2013 14: 47
      -3
      Putin’s team does not act in the interests of the oligarchs, she simply can’t do anything with them, they are an integral part of the market economic system that our people desired 23 years ago, if you want to get rid of them you will have to carry out a revolution again with an inevitable collapse after which you will have years thirty recover, after which it is possible to well heal without the oligarchs.
      Your criticism about price increases, the poor work of officials and other problems is not substantiated. Rising prices can occur for natural reasons that cannot be adequately controlled, to evaluate the work of officials, some criteria are needed that are not there, it is quite possible you are waiting for a solution to simply impossible tasks from them, there are problems with education and health care all over the world another president and the team will not fix the problem, it may be better or worse, but so that everyone will never be happy.
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 30 November 2013 16: 02
        13
        Forgive me, but this is nonsense. They could do it with Khodorkovsky, with Berezovsky. with Gusinsky, but with Abramovich, Chubas, and other bloodsuckers - he cannot. Why such selectivity? It would seem that Taburetkin and Vasilyeva - no one at all and can not call them. From his own deck. And she can't do anything either ... Why is Vasilyeva not "sitting" in a pre-trial detention center, like all the suspects, but in a comfortable apartment? She, too, "cannot" be pushed into the pre-trial detention center?

        which our people longed for 23 a year ago, if you want to get rid of them, you will have to conduct a revolution again with an inevitable collapse after which you will have to recover about thirty years, after which we may well heal without oligarchs.


        A revolution from above is much more painless than from below. But for some reason, the GDP does not want to do it. Why do you think so?

        Price increases can occur for natural reasons that cannot be adequately controlled,


        And the natural causes are called - the need to increase bonuses of top managers of natural monopolies or the purchase of a new European football club by the next oligarch? That is amazing. Crisis crisis, people lose their jobs, mortgages are selected for non-payments, and there are more and more Russians on the Forbes list and they are rising higher there. To whom is war and to whom is mother dear?

        to evaluate the work of officials, some criteria are needed that are not there, it is quite possible you are waiting for a solution to simply impossible tasks from them,


        Along the way, not only I expect impossible tasks from them, but also the VVP itself, which constantly “scolds” them for not fulfilling its promises.

        there are problems with education and healthcare all over the world


        There are problems everywhere. The work of top management, even in the country, even in the organization, is their overcoming. In our country they are only getting worse. especially in education. Even what survived in 90 is now collapsing.

        put another president and the team will not fix the problem, maybe it will be better or worse, but so that everyone will never be happy.


        All is not. Most yes. Within the framework of the market liberal model, no one, even Christ, if he had taken the place of GDP, would rather have agreed once again to hang on the cross in a couple of years. The only option is to change the socio-economic model. A return to socialism and a planned economy with elements of private enterprise, as it is in China and was in the IVS.
  • APES
    APES 30 November 2013 14: 24
    +8
    Quote: KV
    and be proud of our Motherland

    I am proud of my homeland, but what does Putin have to do with it?
  • demel2
    demel2 1 December 2013 09: 25
    +3
    So because of the khai, that he fights badly. Interestingly, he just doesn’t want to fight or can't?
  • S_mirnov
    S_mirnov 1 December 2013 12: 36
    +3
    Quote: KV
    When will we rejoice and be proud of our Motherland?

    I will answer.
    He has never ceased to be proud of his homeland, but he has ceased to be proud of the state after the collapse of the USSR.
    I will be proud of my state when I stop meeting pensioners digging in the garbage to find food for themselves, pensioners begging for alms, mothers collecting alms in order to heal their children. When I stop seeing crowds of lemmings crumpled at ATMs to voluntarily pay their monthly rent to the bank. When the wealth stolen by the oligarchs is returned to the people, and those guilty of the collapse of the USSR and the usurpation of the power of the people, will go to cut the forest in the Kolyma. When I can fish for free on the river and walk in the forest without running into a fence with the inscription "Private property"
    Something like this.
    1. Sakmagon
      Sakmagon 1 December 2013 15: 05
      +1
      S_mirnov
      I will be proud of my state when ...

      Before writing populist (and well-known!) Slogans, try YOURSELF to take and put the order you described in your area, on your street or at least in the yard (if, of course, you do not live in a private house).
      DO IT AT LEAST!
      -and then you will already be waving at the one who restores order in the STATE !!!
      And I recommend changing the avatar - Old Man Kovpak himself defended the country, rather than screaming, sitting in a warm hut with a toilet, that Stalin was a hoopoe, he had lost Ukraine, he had not raised the level of peasants to American farmers in 17 years ...
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 1 December 2013 20: 51
        0
        Quote: Sacmagon
        Before writing populist (and well-known!) Slogans, try YOURSELF to take and restore the order you described in your area,

        When order is brought in from below, it is called the "Great October Socialist Revolution" (in modern EXTREMISM). I'll be honest, I'm not Lenin, I'm weak for the revolution recourse .
        Quote: Sacmagon
        And I recommend changing the avatar - Old Man Kovpak SAM defended the country, not screaming, sitting in a warm hut with a toilet,

        He was not afraid to tell the Truth to people; people followed him. Of course, I’m not at all Kovpak, but for me he is a hero, an example to follow, I’m not embarrassed!
        Quote: Sacmagon
        sitting in a warm hut with a toilet that Stalin is a hoopoe,

        I don’t know where you got this from, but for me Stalin is the greatest organizer and patriot of Russia / USSR, then, Beria L.P., Mehlis, Rokossovsky.
        Something you have beguiled, or provoke!
  • sprut
    sprut 30 November 2013 15: 16
    -3
    After reading the article, I didn’t notice any special praises, everything was just indicated in fact ...
  • Sirs
    Sirs 2 December 2013 04: 38
    -3
    Putin works poorly, and even worse, Medvedev. Putin can do better, but about Medvedev ???
  • shinobi
    shinobi 30 November 2013 07: 51
    17
    Putin would still have a sensible prime minister. He can’t finish off the IMF’s protege yet. But for now ...
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 30 November 2013 12: 52
      12
      And ... why not, who's stopping? Take ... and resign.
    2. AVV
      AVV 30 November 2013 13: 15
      -4
      Yes, it was always problematic with the Premieres !!! But I think everything is still ahead and there will be a sensible !!!
      1. Orik
        Orik 30 November 2013 13: 39
        10
        And it will be problematic. To plant a "sensible" means to create competition, and who needs it and so everywhere ...
        1. alone
          alone 30 November 2013 21: 03
          +1
          Quote: Orik
          And it will be problematic. To plant a "sensible" means to create competition, and who needs it and so everywhere ...


          here I agree with you. Among other things, this is not only a disaster for Russia. In almost the entire former Soviet Union, this is the situation. There is a president and other mediocre bureaucrats. who are also thieves.
      2. Eugeniy_369
        Eugeniy_369 1 December 2013 13: 56
        +3
        Quote: AVV
        But I think everything is still ahead and there will be sensible !!!

        Exactly good .
        By the fifth term will find.
      3. AVV
        AVV 1 December 2013 16: 39
        -1
        And those who are minuscule believe that the government, headed by its leader, works perfectly, flawlessly and doesn’t it have any questions ???
  • makarov
    makarov 30 November 2013 07: 52
    20
    But let the Russians themselves give an assessment to Putin, but not like foreign visitors.
    1. DEMENTIY
      30 November 2013 10: 02
      23
      Quote: makarov
      But let the Russians themselves give an assessment to Putin, but not like foreign visitors.


      Paul. It turned out just awesome, just a ready pun was drawn - the article was written by a Finnish human rights activist, posted by a Ukrainian user, and the Ukrainian user advised not to meddle with the ratings of foreign guest artists! laughing
      1. makarov
        makarov 30 November 2013 10: 05
        15
        You know, I'm used to saying what I think, but not to please anyone. Because of this, it is often "inconvenient" for certain forces. I'm getting old, it's too late to change, and my conscience doesn't allow me.
        1. DEMENTIY
          30 November 2013 10: 34
          +5
          Pavel, yes, it’s not about conscience or age, and not about pleasing, but that a foreigner (for this resource), who has as many as 792 pieces, speaks against foreign value judgments. No offense. hi
          1. Yura
            Yura 30 November 2013 12: 59
            10
            It's simple, Paul does not feel like a foreigner, that's great! hi
            1. Orik
              Orik 30 November 2013 13: 40
              13
              And why should he feel like a foreigner? Because of the three fools who divided a single people?
          2. makarov
            makarov 30 November 2013 14: 57
            +7
            They got it. They pressed it. Exposed. I have to admit - I'm even from another galaxy. The signal from the power site is such that it reaches us.
    2. AVV
      AVV 1 December 2013 16: 34
      +3
      Yes, no one gives an assessment to the president, but the question is in the government and the one who heads it, why the instructions of the head of state are ignored or not executed at all !!! Here, the demand should be tough, regardless of ranks and former merits !!!
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    1. plotnikov561956
      plotnikov561956 30 November 2013 08: 26
      17
      The Russians have already praised Putin ... by choosing the President. This article is not at all like a hymn of praise .. analysis of activities. Real facts .. Yes!
  • bomg.77
    bomg.77 30 November 2013 07: 53
    13
    By the way, I wonder why there is no Lavrov on the Forbes list, but only Putin? After all, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov is also one of the most influential people on the planet.
    Yes, this is a tandem, Lavrov & Putin, and with DAM, rather a fable .. swan cancer and pike (((
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 30 November 2013 08: 23
      22
      Good morning everybody hi

      The topic raised in the article, namely, the role and activities of Vladimir Putin, is so vast that you can’t limit yourself to just one comment. It’s right to write a fundamental work. The facts presented in the article speak for themselves quite eloquently. I won’t repeat myself. On foreign policy successes in on a global scale, you don’t even have to write. The same can be attributed to the further development of the country's defense capability. But here is the most painful question, or rather three remain in my opinion on the agenda.
      1. A question regarding the CU and regional conflicts in the post-Soviet space. I understand and give my due, the most difficult question. Conflicts are not resolved but only frozen. In my opinion, Vladimir Putin wants it or not, but it will come right in the very near future tackle these issues. From here, the decision is directly related to the issue of the accession of individual states to the CU.
      2. Justice and corruption in Russia. These two questions have already filled my teeth and probably not only me .. The most burning questions. The further economic development of Russia depends on the solution of these issues.
      3.Kadra. As President of Russia, when he was the president of Russia, he publicly announced the center of the data bank of candidates for nomination for key administrative and state posts. One gets the impression that they either ignored or forgot about it. Then why did you have to publicly declare this ?!
      These three questions, in my opinion, are most important for the near future. In my opinion, the further progressive development of not only Russia but also the countries of the post-Soviet space depends on the solution of these issues.
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 30 November 2013 09: 51
        12
        Quote: Apollon
        But here is the most painful question, or rather three remain in my opinion on the agenda.

        Apollo, hi ! He pulled the country out of the abyss, but did not draw a future. That's where his main failure ...
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 30 November 2013 10: 31
          +6
          Quote: Tersky
          but did not draw a future.
          Tersky, and in my opinion the future is already very clearly visible. A couple of times Putin spoke about this, but did not pay much attention to it, especially at a time when all thoughts of people and the authorities were occupied with pressing problems, and not geopolitics. I have in view of the reconstruction of the USSR2.
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 30 November 2013 15: 36
            10
            Quote: bomg.77
            . I mean the reconstruction of the USSR2.


            and at first not in the political plan. but in the American context, under capitalism, create an alternative EU economic zone to introduce its own regional Unified measure of value in the space of the CU and EEC with an eye on the entire SCO and the Eurasian Economic Community and, as a result, introduce a single currency in mutual settlements and financial turnover. Guess what currency it will be. Moreover, China is stopping the accumulation of American dollars.
            “China detonated a real bomb, but the mainstream media in the US almost completely ignored it. The Central Bank of China has decided that "the accumulation of foreign exchange is no longer in China's interests"".

            The "explosion" of the "bomb" itself occurred on November 20. Produced by his deputy chairman of the People's Bank of China, speaking at an economic forum at Tsinhua University.
            "China no longer prefers an increase in foreign exchange reserves,"
            - quotes a statement by an official Bloomberg agency.
            link
            Bank of Russia for the period from the end of January 2013 to the end of July reduced US Treasury stocks from 164,4 billion dollars to 131,6 billion dollars, that is, for six months it reduced its portfolio of US Treasury bonds by 32,8 billion dollars, or on 20%.
            So, in the future, to stake out your market not only from the dollar, but also from the yuan requires a potential market at the initial stage of 300-350 million mouths. That is why there is such a battle for Ukraine and the expansion of the vehicle. That is why the West is so persistently pressing Yanukovych, trying to quarrel us and China and most importantly to remove Putin and his team from power because in this fight, as we see, the result is clearly not on the side of the West. In the end, you can agree with the Chinese through the BRICS bank. was created with the active participation of Russia in the peak of the IMF on the creation of a dual-currency basket ruble-yuan in peak of the dollar-euro.This is a global goal.
            1. Ascetic
              Ascetic 30 November 2013 15: 38
              +6
              .Tactical methods, so that, for example, no one rebels in the future, make the economy of a potential troublemaker completely dependent on the Russian state. This is already in Chinese, not with the help of aircraft carriers and exporting democracy, but with the help of soft power, step by step Step by step.Putin talks about this almost openly. Follow the news about the privatization of Ukrainian enterprises and state corporations. This is a public process, everything will become clear to everyone. Banks of Ukraine are already actively buying up Russian business. Russian banks already own 15.5% of the assets of the banking system of Ukraine. European banks withdraw their capital from Ukraine, put up for sale their subsidiaries or preserve until better times. According to the Austrian financial group Raiffeisen Bank International AG, the share of foreign banks (except Russian banks) in the Ukrainian market continues to decline. At the end of 2012, the share was 20%, and within one or two years the share is forecasted to fall to the level of 2003 - 10%. At the moment, about ten more European banks are considering leaving the Ukrainian market.
              RUSSIANS BUY BANKS AND INDUSTRIAL ASSETS OF UKRAINE
              Why do foreigners need to buy assets in Ukraine now
              "Goals are defined, tasks are set - for work, comrades"

              Putin V.V. 2004 year.

              PS Involuntarily you come to the conclusion that under the conditions of the WTO, that is, according to Western rules of trade, it is easier to solve these problems. Does this lie in the answer to the question why Russia has been breaking into this gate for so long and the West has not let it go there for so long?
              1. Ascetic
                Ascetic 30 November 2013 16: 01
                +4
                Quote: Ascetic
                . Putin talks about this almost openly.


              2. bomg.77
                bomg.77 1 December 2013 04: 40
                -2
                Quote: Ascetic
                PS Involuntarily you come to the conclusion that under the conditions of the WTO, that is, according to Western rules of trade, it is easier to solve these problems. Does this lie in the answer to the question why Russia has been breaking into this gate for so long and the West has not let it go there for so long?
                Ascetic I will subscribe to your comment. Putin in politics as Capablanca in chess
                His game was attracted by the lack of a template, a constant desire for initiative, amazing speed of thinking, subtle intuition and beautiful combinations; a harmonious combination of logical plans and filigree technique of achieving and using advantages, decisiveness in attack and perseverance in defense.
                And I’ll add, he thought over the whole party, after several moves of the enemy. Putin is already close to the goal, it is not for nothing that the opponents of a strong Russia, of all stripes, have become more active around the world. hi
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic 30 November 2013 13: 37
          +4
          Quote: Tersky
          He pulled the country out of the abyss, but did not draw a future. That's where his main failure ...


          Victor! Greetings! Everything will be fine not with ...! Today is Saturday, so a little humor doesn’t hurt.

        3. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 30 November 2013 14: 37
          -1
          Quote: Tersky
          He pulled the country out of the abyss, but did not draw a future.
          He pulled nothing out of nowhere, but the future just drew (and even very gently put it):
      2. Altona
        Altona 30 November 2013 12: 13
        16
        The fact that the article was written by a Finnish human rights activist is not bad in itself, since this is one of the few positive articles about Russia lately ... In domestic politics, we have a big roll in liberalism and monetarism, I don’t know why we have opposition flags are waving, the holiday on their street didn’t seem to end, and all the costs of crooks and thieves in power are the inevitable birthmark of capitalism ... I have many complaints about Putin, but the fact that he can refute them all at once I doubt it ... And the article, if you look at the European reader, is not bad ... At least we are not exposed as subhuman, as usual ...
      3. Eugeniy_369
        Eugeniy_369 1 December 2013 13: 59
        +2
        Quote: Apollon
        These three questions, in my opinion, are most important for the near future. In my opinion, the further progressive development of not only Russia but also the countries of the post-Soviet space depends on the solution of these issues.

        Hello! Apollon, you are also a diplomatwink .
  • moskal68
    moskal68 30 November 2013 08: 04
    -2
    Vova is good. But this is when compared with our opposition. that is eager for power. If, for example, compare him with Joseph, then Vova - shitnot very good (take it easy with expressions. Moderator.) Yes, and with a stool, he scolded. He lacks rigidity. And of course he can tryndet before the zhurnalyugami. For me, for example, this is neither hot nor cold.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 November 2013 08: 35
      14
      Quote: 68
      . For me, for example, this is neither hot nor cold.

      And counting kopecks in your pocket in 2000, didn’t you give a damn?
      1. moskal68
        moskal68 30 November 2013 08: 41
        -6
        And how are your pennies related to his ability to speak?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 30 November 2013 08: 55
          +8
          Quote: 68
          And how are your pennies related to his ability to speak?

          I do not understand, so the ability to conduct a conversation is a minus?
          1. DEMENTIY
            30 November 2013 10: 14
            +8
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: 68
            And how are your pennies related to his ability to speak?

            I do not understand, so the ability to conduct a conversation is a minus?


            Of course minus. For example, here, for example, each performance raises the mood - the laughter is straight! wassat
            1. catapractic
              catapractic 30 November 2013 13: 54
              +3
              Surzhik laughing good -GOS YAHYK UKRAINIAN CHINUSH
        2. lewerlin53rus
          lewerlin53rus 30 November 2013 08: 59
          12
          And what is bad at speaking? Would it really be better if he could be shrouded in the belt by any cheap journalist from the yellow newspaper? And most importantly, the ability to talk, directly related to the ability to speak. This is one of the main skills of any politician.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 30 November 2013 09: 04
            +3
            Quote: lewerlin53rus
            . This is one of the basic skills of any politician.

            Remembering Bush, I bet anyone laughing
            1. andrei332809
              andrei332809 30 November 2013 09: 20
              13
              well bush ... bush is that pretzel too
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 30 November 2013 09: 08
            +7
            Quote: lewerlin53rus
            And most importantly, the ability to talk, directly related to the ability to speak.

            Yes, it’s not a question, let’s talk, but the main thing is not that, the main thing is to raise the country, and not only in the eyes of foreign partners.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 30 November 2013 09: 16
              +4
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              - To raise the country, and not only in the eyes of foreign partners.

              Tell me how to do it? They began to rearm the army, and that yelling everything was gone? What to do, will there really be sentences or just general phrases?
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 30 November 2013 09: 20
                +2
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Tell me how to do it? They began to rearm the army, and that yelling everything was gone?

                What to do? Yesterday Kasatonov described in detail a step-by-step solution. And where are the attempts?
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 30 November 2013 09: 39
                  11
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  ? Yesterday Kasatonov described in detail a step-by-step solution. And where are the attempts?

                  You know Igor, when Zyuganov speaks and says that everything can be done in a year and gives figures, for some reason I don’t believe him. hi
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 30 November 2013 09: 48
                    10
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    when Zyuganov speaks and says that everything can be done in a year and gives figures, for some reason I don’t believe him.

                    Well, yes, Zyuganov recently beautifully talks, I agree. good But is he not right to raise a village, factories?
                  2. Corsair
                    Corsair 30 November 2013 10: 10
                    +4
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    says that everything can be done in a year and gives numbers, for some reason I don’t believe him. Starring not bags tossing and turning

                    The coming to power of the president-communist (the example of Moldova) in itself does not mean anything (even with the full support of the parliament). It is only possible to make a ROOT breaking down of the foundations of the state in these realities by force, which already took place in 1917 ...

                    And IT is necessary for us ???
                2. SPACE
                  SPACE 30 November 2013 09: 48
                  +5
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  What to do? Yesterday Kasatonov described in detail a step-by-step solution. And where are the attempts?

                  laughing This wise guy is even dumber than Fedorov. The Patriots staged 17 and 91 and nearly ruined the country. For this reason, pragmatic realists like Stalin and Putin, and not patriots, storytellers, idiolists, should rule the country.
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 30 November 2013 09: 59
                    12
                    Quote: SPACE
                    The Patriots staged the 17th and 91st and nearly ruined the country. For this reason, pragmatic realists like Stalin and Putin should rule the country

                    Of course I understand, a stormy Friday night, a heavy Saturday morning, I myself am the same, but compare Putin with Stalin? fool For God's sake, no revolutions are necessary, but let them do something. Putin to become the leader of the people, just spit, and I would go after him, show him the path to the light at the end of the tunnel. For this, besides the mind, we need eggs. But while we wander in pitch darkness, with strong doubts about the correctness of the chosen path. hi
                    PS
                    This wise guy is even dumber than Fedorov.
                    What is he wrong?
                    1. SPACE
                      SPACE 30 November 2013 11: 39
                      +2
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      but compare Putin with Stalin?

                      I want to note that I didn’t start comparing them the first time, the second, I don’t say that they are the same, I just pointed out their common features.
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      and I would go after him, show him the path to the light at the end of the tunnel.

                      Quote: Tersky
                      but did not draw a future

                      Forgive me, he has been showing and drawing arrows to you for 8 years already, but you still cannot see, as the Chinese say: "to look does not mean to see." There are farsighted, there are short-sighted, but sooner or later they will see everything.
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      But while we wander in the pitch darkness, with strong doubts about the correctness of the chosen path

                      No, we go, and you wander.
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      What is he wrong?

                      Yes, there were sdes articles of this clever man, look through there I explained long and tedious.
                      Regarding Kasatonov and yesterday’s proposal to refuse the WTO and work for yourself while developing the industry ... I’ll explain that in the West some kind of component is produced, it accordingly has its value, including profit-making, so when they sell it to us, through of their own or dealer companies, which in turn are located on the territory of Russia and in which local people work, they, tobish west give us part of their profits, these are salaries, etc. Entering the WTO, on the one hand, allows reducing the cost of goods for end consumers, which, like many rightly, but not always not always, so on the other hand, allows us to increase local revenue, in other words, we become participants in Western business and have our share with it, plus we reduce unemployment. Well, to hell with us, we try to produce everything, perfume Merci and iPhones, maybe let those who ate this dog do it! But space, atom, defense, metallurgy and mechanical engineering i.e. powerful industries, state-forming enterprises with state support, have the opportunity to compete with Western companies on an equal footing, it is precisely the WTO that gives them advantages. And precisely because of this, sometimes Western managers are introduced into such companies, since they have better conditions for solving these problems, including oil companies that provide guaranteed sales in advance. This is also about the interest rates of the CBR, well, why low rates for the oil and gas power, as well as Leontyev’s unconscious reasoning about the artificial strengthening of the ruble, this same ruble gives you more to buy overseas pieces, and oil and gas will be bought for bucks and will always be taken , and also pre-creates an additional pillow of economic security. And your Kasatonov; enemies, compradors and other herbage. In general, Putin in these conditions, at a particular point in time, is doing everything right, including when he prioritizes in the geopolitical field, within the framework of international law, the advantages of his country, for which professionalism is felt forever. And the solution to internal problems already depends not only on him, but also on you all, and you are all looking for yesterday.
                3. 31231
                  31231 30 November 2013 10: 04
                  0
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Yesterday Kasatonov described in detail a step-by-step solution.


                  Can you remember the 90s ?! Then there were so many "Kasatonovs" ready to raise the country. Only these "Kasatonovy" language chatter, and a lame horse to manage much.
                  1. stalkerwalker
                    stalkerwalker 30 November 2013 10: 09
                    +9
                    Quote: 31231
                    Can you remember the 90s ?! Then there were so many "Kasatonovs" ready to raise the country. Only these "Kasatonovy" language chatter, and a lame horse to manage much.

                    And you can also remember the ever-memorable "500 days".
                    Usually, such "bookkeepers" are doing well only on paper.
                    And then they appear ravines. And then all the plans are used for water closet ...
                  2. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 30 November 2013 10: 13
                    +7
                    Quote: 31231
                    Can you remember the 90s ?! Then there were so many "Kasatonovs" ready to raise the country. Only these "Casatonic" language to talk,

                    Blah, blah, blah ... Does Kasatonov suggest a change of head of state? He offers ways to solve existing problems, and from my point of view, the right ways. What do you disagree with?
                    1. 31231
                      31231 30 November 2013 10: 23
                      +3
                      You mean http://ruskline.ru/author/k/katasonov_valentin_yurevich/

                      Do not tell me what he managed besides his language and the department of MGIMO?
                      Maybe at first he will become the mayor of a town and try to control it? And then populism is not a serious matter, at least for me.
                      1. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 30 November 2013 10: 35
                        +2
                        Quote: 31231
                        Do not tell me what he managed besides his language and the department of MGIMO?

                        And Evdokimov was a comedian. hi
                      2. 31231
                        31231 30 November 2013 11: 57
                        +1
                        Could also mention Reagan. Well, what has changed in Altai during the reign of Evdokimov. If possible in official numbers !?
                      3. atalef
                        atalef 30 November 2013 12: 01
                        +2
                        Quote: 31231
                        . Well, what has changed in Altai during the reign of Evdokimov. If possible in official numbers !?

                        By the way, it’s just a question for a resident of Altai, not so long ago there was a program about Evdokimov, his wives, mistresses and illegitimate children - but these are trifles, the question was how they will begin to share his property - which turned out to be many millions of bucks. So the question is, was he on the stage like that or in the position of governor?
                      4. 31231
                        31231 30 November 2013 15: 11
                        +2
                        Quote: atalef
                        So the question is, was he on the stage like that or in the position of governor?


                        Atalef, well, when will you stop taking these journalistic investigations of fried seriously ?!
                        Yes, let him have at least billions of fortune. If only people with him began to live better, production developed, young people gained experience, not drugs.
                      5. atalef
                        atalef 30 November 2013 15: 39
                        +1
                        Quote: 31231
                        Atalef, well, when will you stop taking these journalistic investigations of fried seriously ?!

                        You know, I am quite an adequate person and I understand. something. what is written is not always true, but often an outright lie. Therefore, I try to proceed from this, I look for different points of view and try to compose my own. About Evdokimov there were several programs. I haven’t seen or refuted them 9 you will find and throw off the link I will be glad). therefore, I proceed from that. that if you did not give a rebuttal or did not prepare an anti-report, then there is a large share of truth.

                        Quote: 31231
                        Yes, let him have at least billions of fortune. If only people began to live better with him, production developed, young people gained experience, not drugs

                        Yes, I agree - a rich man - is not always bad. The mayor of New York (Bloomberg) is one of the richest people on the planet, works for a dollar a year and his people have repeatedly re-elected him.
                        And the question was simple. Yevlokimov really was a millionaire (was) and where did such grandmas earned? If on the post of governor - then I'm sorry - he is a thief request
                  3. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 30 November 2013 12: 32
                    +3
                    Quote: 31231
                    Could also mention Reagan.

                    Why did you say that?fool
                    Quote: 31231
                    Well, what has changed in Altai during the reign of Evdokimov. If possible in official numbers !?

                    What are the numbers, who gave him time to do something? In the internet there is a video of a meeting of the regional Duma with his participation, look, this will be your answer.
                    Quote: atalef
                    not so long ago there was a program about Evdokimov, his wives, mistresses and illegitimate children - but these are trifles, the question was how they will begin to share his property - which turned out to be many millions of bucks
                    Sanya, you would have looked less NTV at night. hi
                  4. atalef
                    atalef 30 November 2013 13: 20
                    +4
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Sanya, you would have looked less NTV at night.

                    Hi / Igor? NTV - actually turned it off and more than a year ago / Everything was biased there and almost from any report (claiming an independent investigation) the ears of the customer are visible.
                  5. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 30 November 2013 13: 37
                    +2
                    Zdorovye buly, Sasha. hi Then where does infa about Evdokimov’s millions and lovers come from? Although about lovers you can not answer who is sinless in this matter, let him first throw a stone ... laughing
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  • Oskar
    Oskar 30 November 2013 08: 36
    +8
    If, for example, we compare him with Joseph,
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 November 2013 08: 42
      +8
      Quote: Oskar
      If, for example, we compare him with Joseph,

      Sense of comparing people from different eras? Then the world was different, completely different and the people near you were completely different with different ideals.
      1. Oskar
        Oskar 30 November 2013 08: 54
        +8
        There is no comparison between Putin and Stalin in the video. Here is the reflection that the Russian people are missions, the people of idea. Russian used to feel like a part of the Great State. Stalin - a combination of will and idea. Now there are no ideas and will not be. There can be no national idea in a state of thieves. The national idea should be based primarily on the existing justice in society. If it is not, the nation will never be united.
        In good times L.I. Brezhnev's "Stalinomania" did not smell close, and when the capitalists and their zho..liza are in power and there is no order with the country, you will involuntarily remember Stalin. Stalin is now not seen as a person, in a state like ours - he is a SYMBOL!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 30 November 2013 09: 08
          +6
          Quote: Oskar
          Now there are no ideas and will not be. There can be no national idea in a state of thieves

          First and foremost, the idea and meaning should be with you! It’s not necessary to yell that anyone can have a state of thieves, a lot of mind is needed. An idea can now unite ordinary people, but try to do this with businessmen, officials and at least young people. An idea can be, but people have different values ​​- it’s a problem.
          1. Arberes
            Arberes 30 November 2013 10: 18
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            The idea may be, but people have different values ​​- the problem.

            Oh, how are you right Alexander !!!
            I would just change your mind a little.
            Now the main idea is this loot? God grant if I exaggerate!
            Hello dear hi
          2. atalef
            atalef 30 November 2013 12: 07
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            The idea now can unite ordinary people, but try to do this with businessmen, officials and at least young people. An idea may be, but people have different values ​​- a problem.

            Sasha, I’ve been on a very interesting course about communication for so long. managing groups of people. statement of tasks, etc. Well, such a managerial cadet. So, one of the thoughts was very interesting, You can’t explain the task to a person if you don’t speak the same language.
            If the loot is valuable (this may not be beautiful, but this is a fact that you won’t get away with), you should speak in the language of the dough and put it into understandable values ​​with this language, but they don’t understand - it’s like in a foreign language. Generally often listening to speeches of public figures of various kinds - I don’t understand who they are talking to. what and in general who is more than 5 minutes capable of listening to them?
        2. Stanislas
          Stanislas 30 November 2013 10: 56
          -3
          Quote: Oskar
          Now there are no ideas and will not be
          Blindness or falsehood? Now there is an idea of ​​the Great Eurasian Empire, the banner of which Putin unfurled before the last election and carries with honor, no matter how disgusting to its enemies.
          1. Oskar
            Oskar 30 November 2013 11: 04
            +4
            Ave Caesar !!!
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 30 November 2013 09: 00
        +8
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Then the world was different, completely different and the people near you were completely different with different ideals.

        Who is stopping him from starting the return of those ideals? Or is he used to watching HOUSE 2 in the evenings? Both Stalin and Hitler also began in an era of moral and economic devastation. hi
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 30 November 2013 09: 10
          +4
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Who is stopping him from starting the return of those ideals?

          This is what you imagine, Putin comes out and says, “For Stalin?”
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Both Stalin and Hitler also began in an era of moral and economic devastation.

          And why did he drag Hitler here or forget how his economic and nationalist rise ended?
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 30 November 2013 09: 18
            +6
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            This is what you imagine, Putin comes out and says, “For Stalin?”

            And what, besides solidarity in words, does nothing come to mind? In business you need to go the Stalinist way, in business.
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And why did he drag Hitler here or forget how his economic and nationalist rise ended?

            The point is not the end, and not that this person has done in our country, the fact is that at a certain stage he did for his country. I do not like Hitler, compare with Pinochet. hi
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 30 November 2013 09: 22
              +3
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              In business you need to go the Stalinist way, in business.

              Again, a general phrase, tell me how you imagine it now, how in 2013 you would go along the path of the 30s, HOW ???
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              the fact is that at a certain stage he did for his country. I do not like Hitler, compare with Pinochet.

              A certain stage eventually brought Germany to ruins, Jews are still being paid "debts" What happened to Pinachet? And I cannot say that Chile is the country that we need to equal or follow an example hi
              1. mirag2
                mirag2 30 November 2013 09: 43
                -1
                Yes, for example, a way:
                firstly introduce censorship in the press, clean the press. is the most important thing!
                That is what I envy the Jews — that they have a state — for them, for the people.
                "... A sociological study conducted by Tel Aviv University professor Daniel Bar-Tal gave somewhat discouraging results: the majority of Jewish Israelis do not want the press in the country to be independent, unbiased and neutral. The public prefers to read notoriously engaged journalists and supports the idea state censorship of the media.yu "
                http://news.israelinfo.ru/law/48950
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 30 November 2013 09: 50
                  +3
                  Quote: mirag2
                  firstly introduce censorship in the press, clean the press. is the most important thing!

                  And what, there is a firm belief that the VO will not be covered, and at night they will not knock on your door with the words "With things to go!" ?
                  wassat
                2. 31231
                  31231 30 November 2013 10: 17
                  +2
                  About the Jewish press! So that the press would constantly chat about "fucked up everything!" two factors are needed:
                  1. The people who hung their ears 2. Interested sponsors for this press.
                  The people of the Jews are of course friendly and not stupid to listen to fables, but there are no sponsors against their power yet.
                  And what can we say about the country, which is smaller than the Moscow region in area. The Jews are all the more a mono-ethnic state. I won’t talk about the gesheft they received, they will immediately begin to crucify me here.
              2. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 30 November 2013 09: 43
                +7
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Again, a general phrase, tell me how you imagine it now, how in 2013 you would go along the path of the 30s, HOW ???
                Industrialization, investing in the economy of your country, the rise of agriculture, the rise of education, medicine, pharmaceuticals, you can list for a long time. Well, stick and carrot for performers of course. hi
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                A certain stage eventually brought Germany to ruins, Jews are still being paid "debts" What happened to Pinachet? And I cannot say that Chile is the country that we need to equal or follow an example

                You're about ending again. I do not compare Russia with Chile, I give an example of a solution. Pinochet lifted his country from ruins, thanks to strong deeds, and I do not see anything shameful in adopting his example of GDP. hi
                P.S. If you do not count offended dissidents and descendants of the executed liberals, the people of Chile recall Pinochet with gratitude.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 30 November 2013 10: 17
                  -1
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Industrialization, investing in the economy of your country, the rise of agriculture, the rise of education, medicine, pharmaceuticals, you can list for a long time.

                  Clearly, according to Zyuganov, but how to do this?
                  Quote: Ingvar 72

                  You're about ending again.

                  Naturally, I don’t want to live in chocolate for 10 years, and then look for a piece of bread crawling along the ruins of my city.
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  , the people of Chile recall Pinochet gratefully.

                  And you know, Napoleon is also remembered with gratitude, but Russia has its own path, has always been its own distinctive from the West. And it is not connected at all with Stalin, whom you cite as an example.
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 30 November 2013 10: 21
                    +4
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    And he is not connected at all with Stalin, whom you cite as an example.

                    Sanya, I do not cite the West as an example, but resolute people who love their country.
        2. Tersky
          Tersky 30 November 2013 09: 43
          +2
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Who is stopping him from starting the return of those ideals? Or is he used to watching 2 HOUSE in the evenings?

          You forget that Putin saved Russia from the inevitable collapse where Yeltsin’s reforms led it. In fact, he is a national hero for the majority of the people of Russia, since the deliverance of Russia from the prospect of destruction is associated with it. And this success, which overshadows all the blunders. The country still rests on it. If he leaves politics now, everything can return to the worst times of the Yeltsin period.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 30 November 2013 09: 52
            +7
            Quote: Tersky
            And this success that overshadows all blunders.

            Only not everyone can appreciate this fact.
            It's easier to cry "How everything started ...".
            In Ukraine, for example, GDP for many ordinary people is just an idol.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 30 November 2013 10: 39
              10
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              In Ukraine, for example, GDP for many ordinary people is just an idol.

              And for Us, Lukashenko. Everything is relative. hi
            2. Arberes
              Arberes 30 November 2013 10: 54
              +4
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              In Ukraine, for example, GDP for many ordinary people is just an idol.

              So let them join us in the Customs Union? Together we will have fun from him!
          2. Arberes
            Arberes 30 November 2013 09: 55
            12
            Quote: Tersky
            The country still holds on to it. If he leaves politics now, everything can return to the worst times of the Yeltsin period.

            Well, here are three terms, but everything is shaky and unsteady? Will it leave and everything will sprinkle like a house of cards?
            Personally, my question is ripening. What kind of vertical line did he build if she returned to chaos without him again? Let’s then change the constitution, let it rule for life, you look 20-25 years we’ll still live with it, and there will already be time in the cemetery.
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 30 November 2013 11: 30
              +1
              Quote: Arberes
              Let’s then change the constitution,

              And you did not notice in the Constitution of the Russian Federation that the protection of the rights of citizens and the state is called the main tasks of the president. Putin has swapped these priorities in the formula. He is engaged in strengthening the state, and the rights of citizens remain stepchildren in this situation. As for the deadlines, at one time D. Washington resigned after two terms, creating a model of restrictions on the number of presidential terms, which the US used for more than a hundred years. However, he made it clear that he did so because the young republic already had a solid foundation, and not because of the belief that its work should be somehow limited. Verbatim-“I see no reason to refuse to serve any person who, in case of emergency, is recognized as most suitable for serving the community”
              “This is from his letter to the Marquis of Lafayette.”
              1. Arberes
                Arberes 30 November 2013 12: 15
                +7
                Quote: Tersky
                And you did not notice in the Constitution of the Russian Federation that the protection of the rights of citizens and the state is called the main tasks of the president.

                Noticed, dear Tersky ... The protection of the state is visible with the naked eye. The rearmament of the army and navy, the strengthening of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB, and this pleases, but the legal system is not to hell, the one who has more money and rights is right. If the president himself, looking into our eyes from the TV screen, asks (as if addressing us, the citizens of the country) "Where are the landings" and "The laws do not work properly," does this cause a smile at best?
                According to the constitutional amendment, what should happen periodically, but it should not have different loopholes (two presidential terms and no more), and when people start to hang noodles on their ears, that it turns out that this way or that way, then this leaves people an unpleasant aftertaste. People begin to feel once again deceived and fooled and this causes irritation and schism in society. Is it on such a wave that all sorts of Bulk and other dubious personalities begin to appear?
                Change is brewing sooner or later and is needed. Only they must be carried out decently, relying on the legislative framework and wisely!
      3. Tersky
        Tersky 30 November 2013 09: 48
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The point of comparing people from different eras?

        Sasha hi ! The "meaning" is that those who have not lived in two eras are usually compared ..., wink There is a good saying "In the wrong hands .... always thicker"
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 30 November 2013 10: 11
          +2
          Quote: Tersky
          "In the wrong hands .... always thicker"

          Hello Victor! It’s you who’s talking about whose hands, call a nickname wink
    2. Normal
      Normal 30 November 2013 09: 26
      +8
      Oskar
      "... By the way, so that there are no illusions about the patriarchal family of peoples and people in the Soviet Union, each and every participant in the parade WAS CAPTURES WAS TAKEN OUT. Even those who marched from Red Square directly to the front ...."

      After that, you can send the demagogue Dorenko to the far light. All his pathos is banter.
      In 2012, Dorenko was recognized as the main troll of the media space, which he was very proud of.
      1. Oskar
        Oskar 30 November 2013 09: 30
        +4
        In no case will I subscribe to many statements of Dorenko. God forbid!
      2. Revolver
        Revolver 30 November 2013 10: 32
        +6
        Quote: Normal
        By the way, so that there are no illusions about the patriarchal family of peoples and people in the Soviet Union, each and every participant in the parade WAS CAPTURES TAKEN OUT. Even those who marched from Red Square directly to the front

        Someone Anvar Sadat, but rather his special services, was not sufficiently concerned about the withdrawal of cartridges from the participants in the parade. The result of which the whole world observed in 1981.
        1. Arberes
          Arberes 30 November 2013 11: 16
          +5
          Quote: Nagan

          Someone Anvar Sadat, but rather his special services, was not sufficiently concerned about the withdrawal of cartridges from the participants in the parade. The result of which the whole world observed in 1981.

          Should Anwar have a gay parade, then everything would end with hugs and friendly kisses?
          That is what flirting with Israel led to if it is really serious!
        2. Normal
          Normal 30 November 2013 12: 36
          11
          Quote: Nagan
          Someone Anvar Sadat, but rather his special services, was not sufficiently concerned about the seizure of cartridges from the parade participants.


          "... Israel's happiness lies in the fact that the Arabs - the world prize-winners about slovenliness ..."

          M. Weller

          But this is not about the special services of Sadat.
          I do not know how it is in America, I have not been. But in Russia and the Soviet Union, the presence of weapons does not yet imply the presence of cartridges. Ammunition was issued only when entering the guard or immediately before firing in the classroom and exercises.
          According to Dorenko, it turns out that everyone is walking about with a cartridge in the barrel and only just before the parade, for safety reasons; "so they don’t munch on dad“They seized the cartridges. They seized them literally before the battle, since immediately after the parade the troops were marching to the front.
          Dorenko emphasizes this with intonation and punctuation, theatrically pauses for greater effect. One gets the impression that the front line is literally a few miles away, and for the sake of the Pope's safety, the soldiers' cartridges were almost criminally taken away.
          In general, the usual Dorenkovsky demagogy
    3. alone
      alone 30 November 2013 21: 13
      0
      Quote: Oskar
      If, for example, we compare him with Joseph,


      Well, where do we get it from? Joseph Vissarionych died a long time ago, but the second one will not.
  • lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 30 November 2013 08: 51
    +8
    It is not entirely correct to compare Putin with Stalin. Not those times. Although the domestic political situation is very similar. In the thirties, Stalin sabotaged prisoners in the camps without looking at the fact that someone in the west would say something. And no one dared to utter a peep. Now, because of the accidentally glued fins of an empty lawyer, international scandals are rolling in. And if, for example, you put Tolya Khalatny-Taburetkin on the wall, you’ll be the first to yell about Putin’s lawlessness. Our economy and politics are too dependent on external factors. And those who did the steering in due time, now eager for the feeding trough, did this. I do not believe that a person who does so much for the country that is useful in foreign policy, specifically destroys it from the inside. Not everything obvious is obvious. And where will they go, for example, when changing the leadership in the Kremlin, the whole army of local officials who have seated at the offices of their nephew children-friends who are best able to solve only their personal problems and satisfy their own interests.
    1. Bigriver
      Bigriver 30 November 2013 09: 07
      +5
      Quote: lewerlin53rus
      It is not entirely correct to compare Putin with Stalin. Not those times.Though the domestic political situation is very similar.

      What does she look like?
      A completely different economy and other possibilities of higher authority in general.
      In the early USSR, ALL resources and the whole economy were in one fist.
      In the 90s, these resources and power, respectively, were shared by 3% of Russians, who later became world citizens.
      The domestic political situation is not something that is not similar. It is absolutely perpendicular with the times of Stalin and the USSR.
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 30 November 2013 09: 11
      +8
      Quote: lewerlin53rus
      . And if, for example, you put the same Tolya Khalatny-Taburetkin against the wall, you’ll be the first to yell about Putin’s lawlessness.

      This is You in vain, I would have kissed him for Brezhnevsky for it. laughing
    3. SPACE
      SPACE 30 November 2013 09: 22
      +4
      Stalin was, above all, a surgeon, yes it hurts, but the result is instant. Now such a radical treatment is impossible, it is impossible to immediately cut out vital organs, and it’s too early to disconnect the body from the life support systems of the West. Therefore, Putin uses therapeutic methods, the law on NPOs was a dust against parasites, the law on the accounts of officials, it was just a vaccination ... A humanist! The process is slow, but there is progress ...
      1. Arberes
        Arberes 30 November 2013 10: 03
        +4
        Quote: SPACE
        Stalin was, above all, a surgeon, yes it hurts, but the result is instant.

        Not a bad comparison! True cut without anesthesia!

        Quote: SPACE
        Putin uses therapeutic methods

        Is therapy good, but not always effective? Personally, I offer a combined method of treatment if therapy does not help then urgent surgery but of course with the use of anesthesia, thank God we do not live in the 37th!
        SPACE (2), welcome dear! hi
        1. SPACE
          SPACE 30 November 2013 12: 19
          +1
          Greetings Arberes hi
          The problem and the availability of time dictates the method of treatment.
          Under Stalin, the identity was also cut, including geniuses, but he knew that Russia has the function of regeneration, will grow. Then it was about life and death.
          For me it’s better to treat than to amputate, and even more so now, when the critical mark is passed. An elevated temperature indicates that the body is struggling, so not everything is so bad. Democracy is laughing anesthesia will be a little later.
          1. 31231
            31231 30 November 2013 15: 31
            0
            Under Stalin, the identity was also cut, including geniuses, but he knew that Russia has the function of regeneration, will grow. Then it was about life and death.


            Yes, and cut now is not the time. Fertility is not the same as in the days of Stalin. Plus, the slaughtered will add a large flow of dissidents and migrants from Russia.
            You correctly noted that radical treatment needs fertile soil.
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 30 November 2013 10: 08
        +7
        Quote: SPACE
        The process is slow, but there is progress ...

        I'm afraid that by the end of treatment the brain will die, only the body will remain on the life support device.
  • HAM
    HAM 30 November 2013 09: 54
    0
    And Stalin would have unscrewed your head first, for the language.
  • 31231
    31231 30 November 2013 09: 59
    0
    Quote: 68
    He lacks rigidity.


    There is Kim Jong-un. How does the country live?

    You can cite Stalin as an example, but given the current information environment (Internet, radio, satellite TV), it is easy for the West to "discredit" him. And Putin already has many supporters by his behavior and foreign policy abroad. The person is simply adequate. It is not for nothing that news about the possible replenishment of the CU by the states of the Middle East and Southeast Asia is flashing.
    Under EBN, the country was on the verge of collapse into small principalities, and now many people abroad see the prospects of the CU.
    Now, of course, Yarosvet will come running and begin to bliss that the price of oil has risen. But what prevented EBN from working closely with OPEC and influencing the price. What prevented him from turning the oil pipe to the East?
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 30 November 2013 15: 57
      +1
      Quote: 31231
      What prevented him from turning the oil pipe to the East?

      Then they found another solution. Having given a concession for the development of oil to foreign companies, letting most of the money go past the budget and now complain about the small price ... smile
      Discretion ...
    2. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 30 November 2013 17: 04
      +4
      Quote: 31231
      But what prevented EBN from working closely with OPEC and influencing the price
      What is stopping now?

      What prevented him from turning the oil pipe to the East?
      Who knew that consumption and prices would increase wink Tady East was enough.


      Quote: Russ69
      putting most of the money past the budget
      Most is how much? And how many PSAs could they develop?
      1. Russ69
        Russ69 30 November 2013 20: 52
        0
        Quote: Yarosvet
        Most is how much? And how many PSAs could they develop?

        Numbers and percentages, I can’t name now from memory. I can only say that when the GDP began to restore at least some order, the budget for the year grew 4 times. So draw conclusions ....
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 30 November 2013 21: 23
          +7
          Quote: Russ69
          when the GDP began to restore at least some order, the budget for the year grew 4 times. So draw conclusions ....
          I’ll do it, just remind me please - what year's budget has grown 4 times in relation to which year?
          1. Russ69
            Russ69 30 November 2013 22: 22
            0
            Quote: Yarosvet
            I’ll do it, just remind me please - what year's budget has grown 4 times in relation to which year?

            To the past, that is, for the year ...
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 30 November 2013 22: 39
              +3
              Quote: Russ69
              To the past, that is, for the year ...
              Very logical good
              What specific years are you comparing, or should I guess? winked
              1. Russ69
                Russ69 30 November 2013 23: 04
                0
                Quote: Yarosvet
                What specific years are you comparing, or should I guess?
                If memory serves, then by 2004.
                Short but clear:
                In 1992 B.N. Yeltsin’s regime abolished the export duty on oil products. January 23, 1999 E. Primakov’s government adopted a resolution reintroducing an export duty on petroleum products. The duty linked the level of government fees for oil operations with price changes in world markets. Oil export at a price of 9,5 to 12,5 dollars per barrel was charged a duty of 2,5 euros per ton, in excess of 12,5 dollars - 5 euros. This did not burden the exporters too much, but immediately gave 14 billion rubles to the empty budget. In August 1999, Yeltsin appointed Putin as prime minister, and the Putin government increased the fee already in September to 7,5 euros per ton, and from December 8 to 15 euros per ton. In the future, the duty only increased and now exporters deduct about half of the price of exported oil to the country's budget.
                1. Yarosvet
                  Yarosvet 1 December 2013 10: 56
                  +2
                  Quote: Russ69
                  If memory serves, then by 2004

                  Modifies
          2. 31231
            31231 1 December 2013 12: 36
            0
            In 2006, in the framework of the PSA, 3 projects are being developed in Russia:

            Kharyaga oil field (operator - Total),
            Sakhalin-1 (operator - ExxonMobil),
            Sakhalin-2 (operator - Sakhalin Energy).

            The total amount of income received by the Russian state from these projects amounted to about $ 2006 million [686] by the beginning of 1, $ 2010 billion [5,6] by the beginning of 2, and more than $ 2012 billion by the beginning of 10,9 [3].
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 1 December 2013 14: 04
              +3
              Quote: 31231
              The total amount of income received by the Russian state from these projects amounted to about $ 2006 million [686] by the beginning of 1, $ 2010 billion [5,6] by the beginning of 2, and more than $ 2012 billion by the beginning of 10,9 [3].
              You think this is news to me? laughing
              You tell this to those who, despite everything, continue to rave, claiming that Putin has canceled 225-FZ and thereby returned money from oil to the Russian Federation.

              Quote: 31231
              The revenue side of the 1999 budget is 509 696 million rubles.
              The revenue side of the 2012 budget is 3,5 trillion rubles.
              That is, the nominal budget growth is 600%, and the nominal GDP growth for the same period is 700%.
              Question: where did the taxes go (where does the difference in 100% growth come from)?

              Only nonsense about 40% of inflation per year do not write. And then I’ll start to scan documents with prices of our suppliers of materials so that you can calculate inflation.
              You better scan the retail prices for food for 2000 (I would be grateful), and find 2-3 payments for ХХХ for yourself.
              1. 31231
                31231 1 December 2013 16: 21
                0
                That is, the nominal budget growth is 600%, and the nominal GDP growth for the same period is 700%.

                Poor, have you heard anything about the investment attractiveness of the state ?! To do this, reduce the burden of taxes and increase tax benefits. First, in Russia VAT was 28%, until 2004 it was 20%, now it is 18%, and for some food products and goods for children, a reduced rate of 10% is also currently in effect.
                1. Yarosvet
                  Yarosvet 1 December 2013 17: 01
                  +3
                  Quote: 31231
                  Poor, have you heard anything about the investment attractiveness of the state ?!

                  I’ll tell you a secret: tax incentives in the Russian Federation exist exclusively for state corporations, those who work with state corporations, and those who work as part of federal projects do not exist for all other tax incentives.

                  I’ll tell you another secret: in Russia, regressive personal income tax.

                  And to the last secret I suggest you get to the bottom of it yourself: estimate the size of the budget of the Russian Federation as a percentage of GDP by years, and then compare this figure with the same indicators of foreign countries.
                  1. 31231
                    31231 1 December 2013 19: 21
                    0
                    I’ll tell you another secret: in Russia, regressive personal income tax.


                    Open it, og. How personal income tax in 13% becomes less for those who receive a larger salary, and for less paid ones more (I hope you understand what economic regression is).
                    I have a sister, the chief accountant, now she cannot understand your "revelations". She suggested that you were talking about personal income tax from dividends. Explain.
                    1. Yarosvet
                      Yarosvet 1 December 2013 20: 40
                      +3
                      Quote: 31231
                      She suggested that you talk about personal income tax with dividends. Explain.

                      Correctly suggested: 9% is not 13%.
          3. 31231
            31231 1 December 2013 12: 44
            0
            The revenue side of the 1999 budget is 509 696 million rubles.
            The revenue side of the 2012 budget is 3,5 trillion rubles.

            Only nonsense about 40% of inflation per year do not write. And then I’ll start to scan documents with prices of our suppliers of materials so that you can calculate inflation.
      2. 31231
        31231 1 December 2013 11: 29
        -1
        What is stopping now?

        Who knew that consumption and prices would increase wink Tady East and so on.


        That is, we are not interacting not with OPEC, neither with Venezuela, nor with China? For some reason, even the Saudis do not want to sharply increase production volumes. Is this really all fart?
        Moreover, the current Russian Federation planned to participate in the Islamic Gas Pipeline. But he is a competitor of Gazprom on the European market. Only you "specialist" do not know that Putin is butting for Syria, including because of the fuel and energy issue.
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 1 December 2013 13: 00
          +2
          Quote: 31231
          interact

          What is the relationship between interaction and influence on price?
          1. 31231
            31231 1 December 2013 13: 49
            -2
            And what do OPEC participants drink tea and talk about their personal lives? or discuss volumes of supplies and price thresholds?
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 1 December 2013 14: 45
              +1
              Quote: 31231
              And what do OPEC participants drink tea and talk about their personal lives? or discuss volumes of supplies and price thresholds?


              Here is what you write: << But what prevented EBN from working closely with OPEC and influencing the price >>

              1 Interaction and influence is the same as being warm and soft.

              2 The RF does not affect the price either now or then - discussion is a contractual process in which the Russian Federation plays far from the first fiddle.
  • Garrin
    Garrin 30 November 2013 17: 04
    +7
    Quote: 68
    . He lacks rigidity.

    This is just enough for him. He can easily ignore the opinion of the majority of the population.
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  • PValery53
    PValery53 30 November 2013 08: 07
    +6
    Of course, keeping the political front against the envious outside forces of Russia and Putin is simply necessary, otherwise they will be devoured. And it is imperative to refuse to pay the "rent" to America, and, in general, to ban the green dollar in Russia !! - It's time to develop ourselves, and not "feed" the rich West!
  • velikoros-xnumx
    velikoros-xnumx 30 November 2013 08: 13
    14
    The only role in which Russia feels natural is the role of the Empire.

    I agree with this 100%. Russian people can not live otherwise, or pan or gone, or the empire or the complete absence of nat. state, the third is not given.
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  • KEKS44
    KEKS44 30 November 2013 08: 15
    +4
    I am not a fan of GDP, but in my opinion there is no alternative to him as president in Russia yet. Medvedev infuriates! Why is he holding this crap ... ts ?!
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 30 November 2013 08: 53
      +4
      Then, against the backdrop of Medvedev, Putin is white and fluffy.
      1. Oskar
        Oskar 30 November 2013 09: 05
        +3
        A "good" cop is a "bad" cop !!!
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 30 November 2013 09: 11
        -2
        Quote: Gardamir
        Then, against the backdrop of Medvedev, Putin is white and fluffy.

        Yes, it is against the background of any white and fluffy.
        1. Oskar
          Oskar 30 November 2013 09: 15
          -4
          A diamond in the dung of a system that he himself created.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 30 November 2013 09: 30
            +3
            Quote: Oskar
            A diamond in the dung of a system that he himself created.

            Listen, run to the swamp already, there you will become popular.
            1. Oskar
              Oskar 30 November 2013 09: 58
              +4
              Listen, run to the swamp already, there you will become popular.
              Yes, I am not a democrat, not a democrat, what should I do there? And it's not up to you and people like you to decide where to go or run. The time will come - I’ll go where I need to, don’t worry. Could you tell me where to run, but you yourself know the way, I'm sure.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 30 November 2013 10: 09
                +4
                Quote: Oskar
                And it’s not for you and people like you to decide where to go or run.

                I understand that, compared to Anal, you are not in authority. And this is very good.
                1. Oskar
                  Oskar 30 November 2013 10: 17
                  0
                  I compared with Anal you do not have authority
                  I recognize Vladivostok on criminal slang)))))! Both of you are not authorities for me. And this is great! Still, M. Zadornov was right about you, alas ...
                  Is Putin your authority or law? I would clarify at least))))).
                  Anyway:
                  “It's hard for me to consider you a partner in the discussion - you have hallucinations!”
                  Playwright Slavomir Mrozhik.
                  Got it? Good at this ...
              2. Arberes
                Arberes 30 November 2013 10: 45
                +8
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Listen, run to the swamp already, there you will become popular.


                Quote: Oskar
                Could you tell me where to run, but you yourself know the way, I'm sure.

                I appreciated your dive, a feeling that sparks will now sprinkle from the swords you crossed? Passions run high?
                Guys, maybe it's not worth it to spoil each other’s mood?
          2. KEKS44
            KEKS44 30 November 2013 09: 34
            -4
            And it’s better to go to Geyropka, to the brothers of reason negative
            1. Oskar
              Oskar 30 November 2013 10: 06
              +4
              ??????? Did you drop your head in childhood? Sorry...
              1. KEKS44
                KEKS44 30 November 2013 10: 10
                -4
                Keep talking, maybe someday you will still be able to say something smart!
          3. Garrin
            Garrin 30 November 2013 17: 57
            +6
            Quote: Oskar
            A diamond in the dung of a system that he himself created.

            Everything is correct. From crap, apparently, the "purity" of the cut looks better.
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  • Vladimir.z.
    Vladimir.z. 30 November 2013 08: 19
    +6
    Quote: andrei332809
    no need to sing praises to Putin. when the Serduks sit down, the Medvedevs cease to steer, then we pat. maybe we’ll even arrange a standing ovation.


    You're right! In foreign policy regarding the United States and the European Union, he and his team +
    But unfortunately I don’t see what is happening inside Russia pluses, perhaps only with the exception of one plus - the appointment of Shoigu S.K ....
    As for the rest, the mess you see every day: the demon is a chapel for officials, the right of guards and courts - it is probably beneficial for him and his company in troubled waters, they are sawing the budget, they are taking away property, they are excluding the responsibility of their relatives and accomplices .....
    And while the poor old people ... and beggarly salaries .....
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 November 2013 08: 39
      0
      Quote: Vladimir.z.
      And the rest is a mess that you see every day: the demon aisle of officials, the right of guards and courts

      You are either too young or disingenuous, if you recall what was happening in the country in the 90s, I would not say anything at all for the trial. Everything was sold impudently, there was nothing to say about officials, and they didn’t really interest anyone when everything was under everyone’s windows It happened. There wasn’t a change in the history of change for the better. Slowly, with time and a creak, but the changes are coming. Everything is changing.
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  • plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 30 November 2013 08: 20
    +5
    Give Putin an assessment ..? Sing praises ...? Why ... life and history themselves make an assessment of a certain figure. Fresh deeds in the memory of Khrushchev ... marked Judea .. Alcoholic. What was and what is now. The analysis is quite simple, everything is clear!
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    1. Arberes
      Arberes 30 November 2013 08: 40
      10
      Quote: Jamal
      It is a pity that there is no "President of the Earth" position. Putin would be perfect.

      What is there, of the whole universe! And his name is Darth Vader Putin?
      Immediately I say this is a joke, I do not want to find out the relationship here, but to you plus for your boundless imagination.
  • Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 30 November 2013 08: 25
    +5
    hi The most influential person in the world is good, it’s great (without irony and sarcasm). So in Russian foreign policy everything is as necessary for Russia! That would be also the INTERNAL PROBLEMS ALSO RESOLVED SOLIDLY. To start from the cabinet of ministers, there is all evil for the Russian state. hi
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 30 November 2013 08: 36
      +2
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      To start from the cabinet, there is all evil for the Russian state.

      forgot about the Duma and the Senate angry
      1. Valery Neonov
        Valery Neonov 30 November 2013 10: 46
        +3
        +. Exactly, these "servants of the people" can simply be dispersed ... across zones and camps ... Dielo No. ... "- there is for everyone, I am sure of this. There would be a desire! And for them that would be the only way:
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 30 November 2013 08: 26
    +7
    Here it is! So Putin defends national interests? And I think for what purpose the factories continue to close, the remnants of agriculture are destroyed, southerners are imported into the country, and Moscow is turning into the center of Islam. Putin speaks fluently, but one must judge by deeds.
    1. 31231
      31231 30 November 2013 15: 50
      -5
      Can the comparative statistics of the period of 98 years and the period of 2013 be heard in figures and facts?
      Or do you have another stamped comment ?!
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  • shpuntik
    shpuntik 30 November 2013 08: 29
    +4
    The main danger of Putin is that he is a normal Russian man. This is its main threat to the West. After all, this means that he will normalize Russia.

    Putin serves our homegrown oligarchs. He is the same Russian as: Lenin, Stalin, Kalinin, Malinin. fellow (I do not want to offend anyone with such surnames, I'm talking about specific personalities. hi ) The oligarchy makes its project "Russia" is access to deposits. Therefore, they (young money) butt the West (old money) - for the sales market, for resources. Polina Deripaska is the daughter of Yumashev. Yumashev is Eltsin's son-in-law. Abramovich is the key. Many of them studied in London, Switzerland. No need to build illusions.
    http://www.mignews.com/news/interview/cis/120306_105944_71317.html
    PS How many types of banks are in cities with over one million people? Capital outflow-80: 90 Lard, to China, on the contrary, about the same investment inflow.
    Compare inflation in our country, in the EU, in the United States. And who is a beggar, who is in poverty, who is rotting and decaying in no way? wink
  • vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 30 November 2013 08: 36
    +5
    We note a very important thing. Putin has already received the entire modern corruption regime and even the strengthening of the "siloviks" as a given. This corruption regime was built by both the main political forces of the 90s - “family” and “liberals”, and both were its beneficiaries. Politically, by the mid-90s, especially after the liquidation of the “Soskovets-Korzhakov group”, these two forces were personified in the figures of Berezovsky and Chubais, although a closer look showed a much more varied picture. It was the family group that began to increase the role of the security forces (Nikolaev, Kovalev, Bordyuzha appeared long before Putin), it was she who included the top of the security forces in the number of beneficiaries of privatization schemes. And Putin had no right to change anything for quite some time. And when they appeared, somewhere at the end of his first presidential term, the situation in the economy began to improve rapidly due to rising oil prices. And Putin, who was far from omnipotent (even now he is not omnipotent and does not even remotely resemble Stalin of the late 40s), was absolutely not going to destroy what is moving and developing in order to achieve controversial goals ... And no normal politician will change a working system if he does not have a firm understanding of what (and who) will replace it.
    (Putin's policy explanation is Svargaman.http: //www.odnako.org/blogs/show_23591/)
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 30 November 2013 15: 14
      +5
      Quote: vlad.svargin
      We note a very important thing. Putin received the entire modern corruption regime and even the strengthening of the “siloviks” as a given.

      Moreover, if there were at least the slightest chance that he was against this regime and could at least think about changing the existing situation, then there would simply be no Putin either in Sobchak’s backswing or in Moscow.
      1. 31231
        31231 30 November 2013 15: 39
        0
        If one thinks so "deeply", then Gorbachev would not appear at the CPSU Central Committee either.
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 30 November 2013 17: 06
          +3
          Quote: 31231
          If one thinks so "deeply", then Gorbachev would not appear at the CPSU Central Committee either.

          Who led labeled big politics?
  • major071
    major071 30 November 2013 08: 42
    +4
    Putin needs a good team, not the (co) team that is now in power.
    KEX44
    I am not a fan of GDP, but in my opinion there is no alternative to him as president in Russia yet.

    Here I completely agree with you.
    1. Orik
      Orik 30 November 2013 13: 55
      +8
      If it was needed, it worked for a long time, but on the contrary, all the "elevators" are broken. Although no, one has to shout in time "Glory to Putin" and you can become a light from Ivanovo or Kholmansky.
      Do you really think that someone will give the opportunity to see an alternative candidate. Look, after the revolution, Stalin from seminarians, marshals and people's commissars from peasants and you still think that there is no one ?!
    2. Eugeniy_369
      Eugeniy_369 1 December 2013 14: 20
      +4
      Quote: major071
      Putin needs a good team, not the (co) team that is now in power.
      KEX44
      I am not a fan of GDP, but in my opinion there is no alternative to him as president in Russia yet.

      Here I completely agree with you.

      Well, especially when the "political clearing" was cleaned out in the best traditions of I.V. Stalin.
      If Putin will not end the world?
      When Stalin died so probably some "guard" and "godfathers" in the zone thought.
      And the thing happened like this:
      One night at strange
      He came to us in the hut
      Kum with all the guards.
      I thought the end
      Goodbye obscene ...
      Salted Cucumber
      Kum chewed carefully.
      He will say a word and eat
      The face is all in apathy.
      “There was,” he said, “shit, congress
      Glorious of our party.
      About China and Laos
      There was a debate
      But the question arose especially
      About the Father and Genius. ”
      Kum was eating a cucumber
      And he finished with flour:
      “Turned out to be our Father
      Not a father, but a bitch ... "
  • moskal68
    moskal68 30 November 2013 08: 43
    0
    Quote: PValery53
    Of course, keeping the political front against the envious outside forces of Russia and Putin is simply necessary, otherwise they will be devoured. And it is imperative to refuse to pay the "rent" to America, and, in general, to ban the green dollar in Russia !! - It's time to develop ourselves, and not "feed" the rich West!
    Still to get off the oil-gas needle, then in general, beauty.
    1. Fin
      Fin 30 November 2013 09: 25
      +3
      Quote: 68
      Still to get off the oil-gas needle, then in general, beauty.

      Yeah, preserve the wells - are you talking about this? Do not sell oil and gas to anyone. In all would heal !!! lol
      Or had in mind the gradual, slow development of science, production .....
    2. SPACE
      SPACE 30 November 2013 10: 24
      +1
      Quote: 68
      Still to get off the oil-gas needle, then in general, beauty.

      Well, start right now with yourself, as a personal example, show everyone how you will do it, and we will see how you turn off the gas and lights, start walking, throw your laptop and iPhone out of the window, put on a sweatshirt and tarpaulin boots .. really beauty! laughing
  • moskal68
    moskal68 30 November 2013 08: 45
    +3
    Quote: major071
    Putin needs a good team, not the (co) team that is now in power.
    KEX44
    I am not a fan of GDP, but in my opinion there is no alternative to him as president in Russia yet.

    Here I completely agree with you.
    And maybe there is, but we don’t know.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 November 2013 08: 54
      +2
      Quote: 68
      And maybe there is, but we don’t know.

      Yes, yes, yes there is, only they are not allowed to speak, they are not allowed to. They block the Internet for them, so that they cannot speak and hide from the people.
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 30 November 2013 15: 39
        +1
        Well, in I-net who only is not present. In this salad, gold is easily lost. To promote a person, although not really a person, but a team led by a leader, money is needed. By the way, creating and maintaining a team is also not cheap pleasure. To deploy a media company that can kill the liberal and oligarchic trolls and convey to the people the program of this team. We also need money for campaigning. Ordinary people, even successful representatives of small businesses, do not have enough of them. Therefore, creating an alternative to GDP in our system is simply not realistic. Not to mention that the administrative resources and real affairs of the past are behind the GDP. Therefore, for the appearance of the alternative, huge financial resources and time are also necessary. But in fact, the people have neither the first nor the second.
    2. KEKS44
      KEKS44 30 November 2013 08: 56
      -2
      Everything can be.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 30 November 2013 09: 12
        0
        Quote: KEKS44
        Everything can be.

        What could be?
        1. KEKS44
          KEKS44 30 November 2013 09: 17
          -1
          I answered M68.
          1. KEKS44
            KEKS44 1 December 2013 15: 33
            -1
            Who is it that such a minuscaler appeared here? Show yourself something, udood? Let's talk ?! Or a pisser?
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  • Christian
    Christian 30 November 2013 08: 56
    -8
    Putin's specialty is that his background is Russia. So Putin is a man against the background of Russia. Russia, dying from his "activity" ...
    In Russia, almost no Russian nationalism, unlike all the countries of Europe, which are practically the so-called national. And what's that!?
    1. Orik
      Orik 30 November 2013 09: 34
      +2
      And why our photo?
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 30 November 2013 10: 07
        13
        Quote: Orik
        And why our photo?

        And why did the nationalists, along with gays, go in the same column?
        Not ashamed ?
        1. Arberes
          Arberes 30 November 2013 10: 59
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And why did the nationalists, along with gays, go in the same column?
          Not ashamed ?

          So will they spoil all nationalists for us?
          1. I am
            I am 30 November 2013 15: 32
            0
            Pid ** they are slippery ...... go and climbed by themselves. ))) Although it's strange, I know a couple of former RNU activists (the guys thought better of them in time) and so they (the colors are so beautiful the bastards missed them - they took away the blue and pink and the rainbow from the children) are ready to beat at any opportunity.
        2. Orik
          Orik 30 November 2013 11: 39
          +3
          I do not know them and ask. Leaders like potkin, torus and the like, originally under the wing of special services, so think what they were doing there ?!
        3. I am
          I am 30 November 2013 15: 29
          0
          and fagots and others need to go to the uranium mines with a fingernail.
          but the national Self-consciousness, as a GREAT people, over wake up. Russian is not a nationality. Russian is a people is a mentality. Russian is a way of life. Russian is a SCIENCE, it is CULTURE !!!! But everyone forgets about it. But you can’t !!! Even far from their homeland - Russian people - remain RUSSIAN. And nationality ...... this is just not the main thing. And exceptions only confirm the rule - Russian is Russian and no other way !!!!
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 November 2013 09: 36
      +2
      Quote: Christian
      Russia, dying from his "activity" ...

      Again, Russia is dying, but your division laughing
      Quote: Christian
      In Russia, there is practically no Russian nationalism, unlike all European countries,

      God forbid Russia such nationalism, as in Europe! Then Russia is definitely a khan.
    3. Gardamir
      Gardamir 30 November 2013 11: 53
      +5
      This is Rashan, Russian should be ashamed to go under the liberal flag.
      1. complete zero
        complete zero 30 November 2013 14: 11
        0
        You know (do you know how best?) One thing I don't understand and will never accept ... what is "rashan"? Do you count yourself among this? ... your business is voluntary, well then at least write the name of the country correctly (remind the spelling?)
    4. I am
      I am 30 November 2013 15: 26
      +1
      to be honest, I didn’t know about the "Russian march", otherwise I would have taken part. Although I understand that this is not a solution, not at all a solution for multinational Russia.
    5. 31231
      31231 30 November 2013 15: 57
      -1
      It's a sin not to admit, but there are many Maydauns in Russia. They would only shout "How long ?!", but they do not need to work. After all, they believe that the state owes them an allowance from oil.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 30 November 2013 17: 47
        +3
        Quote: 31231
        but also in Russia there are many maydauns. They would only shout "How long ?!", but they do not need to work. After all, they believe that the state owes them an allowance from oil.

        This is accurate ...
        To work in the sweat of your brow is a bastard. It's easier to shout "in three throats" that "everything is bad!" ...
        Let me remind you that the worldwide practice of paying salaries FOR RESPONSIBILITY, and not for the NUMBER OF CUBES of excavated land. And here the paths of those who stand up for the equalization under the slogan "All equally, regardless of the quality and quantity of the product produced," and those who receive salaries according to the level of experience and qualifications, diverge. Doesn't it remind you of anyone, or nothing?
  • Stinger
    Stinger 30 November 2013 08: 57
    +4
    Yes, in many ways you can agree. At least Obama's Harvard graduate is unlikely to be able to argue with him on equal terms, well at least Austria and Australia are not confused. He would have Sobyanin at the premiere, instead of a photographer - a lawyer.
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  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 30 November 2013 08: 57
    +5
    The patriotism of today's Russia is the patriotism of the new multinational, multiconfessional empire
    This has always been the strength of Russia! But Putin understood this. And he is not bad at it ..
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  • Good
    Good 30 November 2013 09: 08
    0
    The article is positive, it is a fact. Unfortunately, many are somehow negative about Putin.
    If these many patriots are for Russia, then how can one be dissatisfied with Putin, who, in turn, is also for Russia and also a patriot. Is it the Russian mentality, to be not happy with everything or a misunderstanding of what is happening ....?
    As I understand it, it is necessary to maintain and increase everything that is done for the good of Russia!
    If someone believes that he is better, why not become the head of the country.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 30 November 2013 09: 08
    +2
    Quote: ramsi
    Putin is ... wee-wee ... I will not name him the enemy of Russia, but I hope that he will end like Nikolai 11; and it will be fair

    And we will find a new one! we now have half of Russia Putin! laughing So do not dream .. Chumaidan station .. geyevropa)))))
    1. KEKS44
      KEKS44 30 November 2013 09: 20
      0
      Quote: MIKHAN
      And we will find a new one!

      good Yeah, to all enemies of evil!
    2. Christian
      Christian 30 November 2013 11: 06
      -6
      Migrants are always for Putin, but so far they are not yet 50%!
      1. Valery Neonov
        Valery Neonov 30 November 2013 11: 47
        +3
        I would like to ask (as RUSSIAN!), And for whom WE, RUSSIANS, A. Answer, be so kind. hi
        1. Christian
          Christian 30 November 2013 18: 24
          0
          We are Russian (Orthodox) - for the Russian Idea based on the experience of 1000 years of Holy Russia and the Russian Empire - For Faith, Tsar and Fatherland !!! Let me remind you of the words of Dostoevsky — the more Orthodox you are, the more you are Russian.
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 30 November 2013 19: 40
            +1
            Quote: Christian
            For Faith, Tsar and Fatherland !!!

            Everything goes to that ...
            1. Corsair
              Corsair 1 December 2013 00: 02
              -5
              Quote: Yarosvet
              Quote: Christian
              For Faith, Tsar and Fatherland !!!
              Everything goes to that ...

              Such "screaming" demotivators from tugged collages can be made arbitrarily for ANY political leader of the world.
              And believe me, they will look no less "revealing".

              Essentially, essentially ...
        2. rusmat73
          rusmat73 6 December 2013 12: 00
          -2
          Personally, I (Russian) stand for Putin, there are no other candidates on the horizon ....
          with the advent of Putin, stabilization began .... and the hungry gangster 90 already seems that it was not with us (almost 10 years dangled all over Russia: 1992-2008)
          1. kostella85
            kostella85 7 December 2013 21: 51
            0
            It’s immediately obvious that they are bureaucrats, but I’ve got disstobilization and 16 men had to be fired, and they have families !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Vladimir.z.
    Vladimir.z. 30 November 2013 09: 27
    10
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Vladimir.z.
    And the rest is a mess that you see every day: the demon aisle of officials, the right of guards and courts

    You are either too young or disingenuous ..., I would not say anything at all for the trial.

    I’m not too young, I’ve been retired for 7 years, and if I had been disingenuous, life would have turned out differently ... And at the expense of the courts, if it hurts you like that, I express my personal experience of judging that there is experience from the district the provinces, to Moscow at all levels. The literacy level of judges of the 80s of the last century was higher than in the 2000s + cynicism and personal interest .....
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 November 2013 09: 33
      +1
      Quote: Vladimir.z.
      . And at the expense of the courts, if it hurts you so much, I express from personal experience judgments, there is experience that from the district in a remote province,

      Ha, yes, I also came across them, that's why I speak and I remember well the 90s courts. If they can be called courts at all.
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  • ochakow703
    ochakow703 30 November 2013 09: 40
    +1
    And there is no alternative, and in general most of the cases are positive. He would have a team of smart guys, like Shoigu, and everything would be tip-top. With Medmedyev, we’ll still be kicking for a long time in one place with an iPhone in our hands.
    1. kostella85
      kostella85 7 December 2013 21: 55
      0
      Of course ShoigU is an intelligent kid, how to save a country from fires - he .. is on horseback, and in order to provide equipment, these are municipalities, for which then federal taxes ???????? !!!! Comrades, they are all .................
  • shark
    shark 30 November 2013 09: 56
    +6
    Medvedev, Dvorkovich, Simakov-all this managerial-liberal trash should be removed from power. Chubais, Serdyukov-planted. Such steps will only add to Putin’s popular support. Without this, he won’t win the next election. I would really like to.
  • complete zero
    complete zero 30 November 2013 10: 03
    -2
    Something I do not see so far "some special Success" in Russian foreign policy (stupidity apparently interferes) - so far they run from us (like the devil from incense) much more often than to us)))) and in the Economy, everything is the same raw pipe (lada-viburnum does not count), but I will not blame Putin for what he got from Yeltsin and for a hundred years not to clean it up, and teaching Avtovaz workers to "tighten the screws" is not his tsarist business)))
    Putin, the PERSON, can’t doubt it, it was he who stopped the massacre in Chechnya, if only so (a bad world is still a world), and there is no alternative to it at all - you can look at our opposition (which is left and right) only with re-drinking ... In general, you will not envy Putin, not Luxembourg on the territory ...
  • goldfinger
    goldfinger 30 November 2013 10: 20
    +5
    Neighbor Belarus. The main thing is the numbers. They are a stubborn thing.
    But think about simple numbers. The Federal State Statistics Service (Rosstat) has published the final results of the 2010 All-Russian Population Census. According to the published data, the most numerous people in the country are Russians - 111 million people out of 142 million 857 thousand inhabitants of Russia.
    However, over 8 years - since 2002. - The number of Russians has decreased by 4 million. The main reason for the decline in the population is super-mortality. In Russia, about 15 people per 1000 people die every year. In terms of mortality per 1000 population, Russia in July 2009 was in 12th place from the end in the global ranking. Your neighbors in this ranking are Nigeria, Zimbabwe, Chad, Somalia. In Russia, the African mortality rate has been maintained for many years. In terms of life expectancy, on the contrary, your country occupies 162nd place in the world (66 years) (in Belarus - 72,2 years.), Skipping ahead countries such as Papua New Guinea, Honduras and even Iraq (144th place and about 70 years). Especially flashy are the figures of the average life expectancy of men who, according to the Federal State Statistics Service, live only 61,4 years! (66,7 years in Belarus are also small, but the upward trend is already higher than the birth rate.) (Life expectancy in the EU countries the average is 79 years, in the USA - 78, in Canada - 81, in Japan - 82 years.) Speaking about the need to stop the decline in population, the authorities all the time speculate on the issue of fertility, pushing you to the idea that the Russians need “more give birth to".
    And let the figures cite the increase in oil, gas, TVs, refrigerators per capita - the quintessence of everything - the life expectancy of the population in the country! In my opinion, this is the outcome of Putin's rule.
    1. complete zero
      complete zero 30 November 2013 11: 01
      +3
      These are not the Results of Putin's rule (at any rate, you don’t need to "hang all the dogs on him") - I repeat, what happened in 90 (if you remember) can only be transferred by RUSSIA, it was not PUTIN who gave the fuel and energy complex not by hearsay) - tell me how to return it now? (Sailors in pea jackets!?) - corruption in the country in the first place - corruption on the ground - these are our housing and communal services, local traffic police, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, medical institutions, universities, etc. ... these are monopolies of large companies hence the Prices) is the dishonesty of company leaders who prioritize profits (hence the Gastrobayters "dear friends"))) - well, not LESS IMPORTANT - our drunkenness, sloppiness, not a desire to WORK (pay little))) at the Shchuch's command "we all know perfectly well, and we live by the same principle GIVE !!!!
      1. Christian
        Christian 30 November 2013 11: 29
        +6
        If he wanted, there is an example of Venezuela, nationalization was successful! But Putin pursues a different policy of pre-approval, every year plans are announced to sell strategically important state-owned enterprises (fuel and energy complex, first of all)!
        1. lewerlin53rus
          lewerlin53rus 30 November 2013 12: 28
          0
          Quote: Christian
          there is an example of Venezuela-nationalization was successful

          no need to compare Russia and Venezuela.
        2. complete zero
          complete zero 30 November 2013 14: 20
          +1
          If "my grandmother and so on" - you want war!? - I'm not, I'm a coward, a cynic, and a family man, I don't need such cataclysms for nothing ... PS Venezuela is not a criterion at all, with all due respect to her, this is not RUSSIA (nope?)
    2. Christian
      Christian 30 November 2013 11: 26
      -2
      The absolutely correct conclusion is that Putin is the key to the degradation of Russia and the Russian people.
      1. I am
        I am 30 November 2013 15: 34
        0
        They do not show by their example. You even already primates are shy.
    3. Sour
      Sour 30 November 2013 17: 13
      -2
      Quote: goldfinger
      In my opinion, this is the outcome of Putin's rule.

      Well, yes, of course, but before Putin everything was much better.
      Do you have any conscience? Or dad and mom, when you were cooked up, forgot this quality for you? Life expectancy in Russia is lower than in the United States or Japan. But it is about the same as it was in 1970, if that. And practically the last 50 years has not changed.
      1. goldfinger
        goldfinger 1 December 2013 00: 00
        +4
        From Minsk. When they cooked you, sour-sour, your parents did not spare the inborn rudeness for you right up to your ears!
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  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 30 November 2013 10: 23
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    Quote: complete zero
    Something I do not see so far "some special success" in the foreign policy of Russia (feeble mind apparently interferes) - while they are fleeing from us (like the devil from incense)

    They’re fleeing to London .. they are fleeing to the geyevropu .. I think this is a good trend Russia is getting rid of bloodsuckers .. Lafa is over! Berezovsky immediately sensed it and draped (he finished one figs badly) Red went on quietly clinging to Russia and sticking dangerous to an artery ... bully
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 30 November 2013 10: 33
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      I would very much like Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, as head of state, to pay attention to the "activities" of "governor" Natalia Komarova. Her responsibility. am

      Ugra is a region in which more than half of all oil in Russia is produced. However, this does not affect the well-being of ordinary residents of the Khanty-Mansiysk Autonomous Okrug. Many of them do not even have housing. Those who have it are deprived of heating, sewage and, in some cases, even electricity. The floors collapse, the walls collapse, the ceiling crumbles. Residents of rotten barracks in desperation write to the regional authorities and personally to the governor Natalia Komarova. But from her cozy cottage you can’t make out the lives of ordinary people.
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 30 November 2013 11: 09
        +2
        Oh, Russia, someone is eating fat .. and with a fat mug on TV teaches how to live .. And most in Russia are just trying to survive (with the hope that there will be a holiday on their street too. Gas light. Road .. etc.) A social explosion can happen .. if something does not change dramatically in the coming years .. (Serduk is a criminal case and a fine of 150 thousand .. as a result, spitting on everyone’s soul ..) Redheads rule Russia so far .. (this is felt everywhere ..) This is my opinion just ..
      2. goldfinger
        goldfinger 30 November 2013 15: 55
        +2
        Neighbor is Belarusian. I can't believe it. What a planet Plyuk! And with aspiration they talk about the "incomparable" sun, one and indivisible! Wow!
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 30 November 2013 17: 52
          +3
          Quote: goldfinger
          What a planet Plyuk! And with aspiration they talk about the "incomparable" sun, one and indivisible! Wow!

          There is a category of personalities for whom there is always warm champagne, black caviar of the wrong ambassador. Such people, even on the way to the churchyard, lying in a coffin, manage to show displeasure: "They are not carrying it that way, the wrong music is playing, there are not enough wreaths, why the universal mourning is not declared ..." fool
  • mountain
    mountain 30 November 2013 10: 32
    +4
    I read and wonder how such an impression. that the site has children and at the same time spoiled. Putin didn’t do it, Putin covered it up. We all want to live in a state of law, but in words, but in reality everything looks different. It is not Putin who should decide who to sit, but who to stand, but the courts. Putin is an ideologist, his task, the integrity of the country and its development, the situation in the world and much, much of which we do not even guess. And on our site there are already those who are ready to replace it with themselves, it's ridiculous. So suggest yourself go to the polls, write a program, or only here you can hammer on the keyboard. I don’t know what kind of fate he appeared, a lot of tales about this, one thing I can say, TIME YOU APPEARED, my PRESIDENT. Do not write for the sake of pluses and ranks in the internet.
    1. Arberes
      Arberes 30 November 2013 11: 05
      +6
      Quote: mountain
      . I don’t know what fate he appeared,

      As I remember right now, Yeltsin pulled his arm out of his sleeve like an ace of spades. That's how he appeared.

      Quote: mountain
      TIME YOU APPEARED,

      Well, the right card always appears from the sleeve!
    2. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 30 November 2013 11: 25
      -8
      Quote: mountain
      I read and wonder how such an impression. that the site has children and at the same time spoiled. Putin didn’t do it, Putin covered it up. We all want to live in a state of law, but in words, but in reality everything looks different. It is not Putin who should decide who to sit, but who to stand, but the courts. Putin is an ideologist, his task, the integrity of the country and its development, the situation in the world and much, much of which we do not even guess. And on our site there are already those who are ready to replace it with themselves, it's ridiculous. So suggest yourself go to the polls, write a program, or only here you can hammer on the keyboard. I don’t know what kind of fate he appeared, a lot of tales about this, one thing I can say, TIME YOU APPEARED, my PRESIDENT. Do not write for the sake of pluses and ranks in the internet.

      Well, uncle, call us kids ... Here the forum will allow you to contradict .. And at the expense of plus signs and titles here people decide.! Here is your nickname "mountain" (with a small letter ..) I wanted to give you a plus))) that the doubt crept in me .. excuse me! repeat
      1. Orik
        Orik 30 November 2013 11: 56
        -6
        A mountain with a small letter, this is ... Pimple.
      2. mountain
        mountain 30 November 2013 15: 21
        +3
        ))) Mountain with both large and small - MOUNTAIN. And you yourself at least with some write be small and vile. ((((
    3. Gardamir
      Gardamir 30 November 2013 12: 07
      +3
      Such a program will go http://leo-tigr.livejournal.com/12971.html And Putin is your head of state and for everything that happens in the state. he answers. And for the whores in the temples jumping, and for the ministers the state money of the stealing, and for the closure of factories ...