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Results of the week. “Now Humpback! I said: Hunchback! ”

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Nothing personal, just negligence ...


On the morning of November 28, on the official website of the Investigative Committee of Russia, it was reported that the ex-Minister of Defense received a new status, turning from a witness to an accused.

Results of the week. “Now Humpback! I said: Hunchback! ”


The Main Military Investigation Department (GVSU) of the RF IC unleashed a criminal case against Anatoly Serdyukov on the “Negligence” article (Art.293, part.1). The former defense minister is accused of being in a ministerial position, he instructed his subordinates to build a highway in the Astrakhan region before the well-known (or rather scandalous) well-known recreation center “Zhitnoye”, and in addition to work on landscaping of the base itself.



Investigators estimated that because of the “negligence” of Anatoly Serdyukov, the state budget lost 56 million rubles and brought a criminal case against the former defense minister. At the same time, for the very same 293 article (part 1), the ex-minister will be in the worst case (this is in the case of the verdict of guilty) and will face a ridiculous (in comparison with the damage) fine or correctional work. But even in this case, the guilty verdict looks ghostly, since it can come to the conclusion that the statute of limitations has expired.

After the public’s first reaction to the fact that Anatoly Eduardovich on the post of ex-minister himself, except perhaps negligence, the UK received information about a possible revision of the CC article for Serdyukov. Immediately after that, the official representative of the Investigative Committee, Vladimir Markin, spoke and announced that the final accusation against Serdyukov would be filed in 10 days (8-9 in December of this year). And besides this, Markin said that Evgenia Vasilyeva would not fall under the forthcoming amnesty, while calling her words that the investigators allegedly beat testimonies against Serdyukov in the case of Oboronservis, citing "complete nonsense."

Comments from our readers:

Sunjar
Serdyukov, someone very serious roof and accordingly inserts a stick in the wheel of the so-called justice. And for so long because the defendants do not really want to give up each other with giblets (this is not only money, but life can be lost), and the opposing side wants to do everything according to the law so that the mosquito does not undermine the nose. Khodorkovsky is now not considered a political prisoner. And from a legal point of view, it’s conceived to be done flawlessly (it will still be reproachful to the people, even if they put them in prison, they will say that they gave little and took a long time to figure it out). If they are seated, then the liberalist wing will be seriously damaged and it will be possible to push further.


Eugeniy_369
In the situation with Serdyukov, transferring him to the suspects is from an opera - "both the wolves are fed, and the sheep are safe, and the eternal memory of the shepherd ..." The article that was sewn is so ... chickens to laugh, no one will toughen it. This is the limit.


Ingvar 72
And let me be branded again by the prospect ... com of all Russia, but I believe that when crimes of people of such rank are being considered, the head of state should personally control the course of the investigation. This is at least.


Oskar
These “people”, probably, of such a “person” as Goering, would be tried for negligence or hooliganism. Yeah, everyone was “pleased” by Bastrykin ...


Visit to the radicals

On the night of November 27, 2013, during a special operation by security forces in the Eastern Administrative District of the capital, 14 people were detained from whom a large amount of extremist literature was seized, as well as weapon, explosives and their elements (detonators, cords, blanks for “shahid belts” with striking metal elements, trotyl drafts). All fourteen detainees consider themselves to be one of the branches of the Muslim Brotherhood organization, in many countries of the world officially recognized as extremist. The branch is called At-Takfir Wal-Hijra.





A few hours later, another activist of this extremist organization was detained. According to the investigation, the group settled in the Russian capital about five years ago. You can imagine (judging at least by the activity of this and other similar organizations in social networks) how many “sympathizers” they managed to attract in Moscow and the Moscow region, and how many “new believers” replenished the total number of gang underground in Russia. In this regard, it is somewhat strange that the group actually conducted its activities openly in the metropolitan area for a very long time. Extremist sites, schools and centers under the guise of "religious organizations" are multiplying like mushrooms after rain, and access to them, in fact, is open. Arabicophilia? ..

At the same time, the special services are far from always concerned about the situation, and why is it all of a sudden in the same Moscow the number of people interested in learning Arabic has recently grown several times ...

Comments from our readers:

Duke
Some representatives of the Russian youth drive me into a stupor, after the horrors of the Chechen war, the universal exile, and often the extermination of Russians, and especially after Budennovsk, after Beslan, where pregnant women and innocent children, Nord-Ost, and so on, were killed. and so on., joining (and voluntarily !!!) to these scumbags and going to kill their Russians! For me, this is prohibitive and incomprehensible.


timer
Once the sites do not close, it means someone needs. Do you think you can not fight it? You are mistaken - it is possible! The following steps should be taken:
1. To educate young people who want to become imams and preachers in local universities.
2. Stop sending young people to study in the CA (hotbed of Wahhabism).
3. To establish a permanent comprehensive, rather than a one-time, work of the special services to monitor, identify and destroy various radical religious bastards throughout Russia. Involve the elders in this work. To establish propaganda and agitation.
4. Identify funding channels and destroy the bandit.


Domokl
Having destroyed the system of special services, having destroyed communications, having expelled from them really many professionals, we are now reaping the benefits. The basis of the work - agents. And what do we have now? Some weak developments, attempts at recovery.


Show with initials

European officials after the actual failure of the "integration" of Ukraine decided to shift their attention to those whose economic corpses already nailed to the European savings. One of these countries today is Moldova, whose leadership did not dare to freeze (following the example of the Ukrainian leadership) an association agreement with the EU.





So, at the EU summit held in Vilnius, what was expected by the western “partners” did not take place - Ukraine did not sign the association agreement. But they expected something like something truly epochal. The representative of one of the delegations of the European Union countries at the summit stated in general that Brussels would be ready to take Ukraine under its “wing” even if official Kiev refused to grant the freedom of Yulia Tymoshenko. That is, it turns out that Tymoshenko as such for the EU is zero without a wand, and her freedom can wait, since the EU is trying to solve its own problems. In that case, Tymoshenko has a reason to be offended by the EU, although, as has already been said, all the insults and joys of Tymoshenko to Brussels are in fact damn ...

Yanukovych didn’t put his signature on the association document, but the Moldovan and Georgian delegations initialed the agreement (they made preliminary agreements under the agreements). By the way, Ukraine had previously signed (initialed) the agreement, but only initialing and final signing, as it turned out, is not the same thing. Yanukovych will not let lie ...

And the other day, "Berkut" without unnecessary ceremonies and curtsies broke up Kiev "Maidan." The official reason: it’s time to install the New Year trees.

Comments from our readers:

JIaIIoTb
Moldova as a laboratory mouse. Let Ukraine see what happens with this mouse. Maybe Ukraine will like it, and she also wants to become a mouse?


MIKHAN
Main Ukraine defended ..! We are still in line will line up to take in the vehicle. Time is needed.


Sasha
We can not be "Mama" for all maydaunov. Themselves choose the path ... Flag in hand and forward.


Responsibility of the Prime Minister

Valdis Dombrovskis unexpectedly resigned on Wednesday to share responsibility for the collapse of the Maxima supermarket in Riga.



Riga Mayor Nil Ushakov said he did not intend to follow the example of Dombrovskis. Ushakov accused the prime minister of trying to earn political points by leaving and avoiding the problems that Latvia faced.



The country's prime minister resigned, feeling responsible for the tragedy in the mall ... If this is an attempt to earn political points, as the mayor of Riga claims, then how much political points could earn, for example, the Russian government! ..

But, you know, our ministers don’t think to use their unique opportunity to “score points” leaving their posts on their own ... None of the Russian officials feel their guilt not only at some twists and turns in shopping centers, but also in the case of obviously belated help with elimination of the consequences of large-scale flooding, after which thousands of people are left homeless and livelihood to this day, when planes fall, which almost flap their wings in flight, when satellites fail to go into orbit, when economic liabilities. There are many examples ... If they leave “on their own,” it is only after they receive a heavy boot under one place, and sometimes even for quite different sins…

Well, and the Latvian prime minister could have retired before - at least for the marches of SS veterans in this Baltic country. But apparently, in this he did not feel his responsibility ...

"Sofa, suitcase, bag ..."

The leadership of GUM informed the company "Louis Vuitton" about the need to dismantle the pavilion-chest in Red Square. Representatives of GUM also promised to make every effort in order to “remove any irritating effects related to the pavilion“ Louis Vuitton ”as soon as possible.





The “suitcase” of a well-known company appeared on the Red Square of the capital, as one of the components of the exhibition, timed to coincide with the 120 anniversary of GUM.

The construction is dismantled after a squall of public outrage.

Dismantled is good, but I would like to ask a question to those who made the decision to install this obviously advertising attribute in the very heart of Russia: why is there a place for advertising in the “new gigantomania” style on Red Square, but for Russians who are ordinary tourists arrive in the capital, for example, to celebrate the Day of National Unity - no. Why do people who sometimes go to Moscow thousands of kilometers away to see the main square of the country during the holiday have to “kiss” a metal fence hundreds of meters before the approaches to it, which are kept by law enforcement officers? Log in exclusively for the elect? .. Popular unity ...

Of course, anti-terrorism protection, law enforcement vigilance and stuff like that is understandable, but you need to know the measure.

Suitcase ... Well, it remains only to open the McDonald's to the heap in the Spasskaya Tower ... The most surprising thing is that they cannot name the name of the person who signed the permission to install the bag in the very center of the capital. Literally, the elusive Joe ...

But although Joe is elusive, the real business was initiated.

Comments from our readers:

Avant-garde (in response to the reader's comment Moskal68, which consisted of the following: By the way, on the suitcase on the Red Square. Absolutely do not care. Creative, of course, shit, but not critical. Where I am more concerned about the graveyard in the wall and around)

Sobchak, are you ???


Klimpopov
But it’s unpleasant for me ... And the stalls with “balalaikas” are also annoying. A place historical like it or not, and turning it into an advertising campaign did not fit in a healthy society and state. More circus reminds.


Dad and Putin

Vladimir Putin met with Pope Francis in the Vatican during his official visit to Italy. Vladimir Putin’s first meeting with Francis reflects the Vatican’s desire to improve relations with the Russian Orthodox Church. This opinion was expressed by the authoritative Spanish Vaticanist, the chief editor of the Catholic magazine Religión Digital, José Manuel Vidal.





Of course, the meeting itself was somewhat decorative. However, this meeting had a very serious implication. After all, what Christianity is facing today (any branch of it) is a real challenge.

First of all, it is a global reexamination of classical Christian foundations that openly manifests itself in the world, when, for example, the gay lobby is trying to crush Christ’s teachings, when pseudo-freedoms, including pseudo-freedoms of sexual relations, are preached in temples. Gay pastors are already ready to crown "one husband" with "two husbands".

The arrival in the classical Christian world of new trends and frank pressure from representatives of other faiths today lead to marasmus: the ban on installing Christmas trees in one of the Danish municipalities almost got a legal justification, the dismissal of a TV host in Norway for broadcasting with a cross on the neck, shouts about the need to tell children at school about how to live well with same-sex parents ...

And here is Putin? And despite the fact that not every modern leader can afford a frank conversation with a representative of a particular faith. Yes, there’s a frank conversation - many politicians today are generally afraid of appearing in front of television cameras along with religious figures, believing that this could somehow compromise them, point out their intolerance and all that sort of half-wisdom. Of course, calling Putin himself a Christian, to put it mildly, is useless, but his trip to the Vatican is a signal that further fragmentation of Christianity, further self-removal of its leaders from solving serious problems can lead to the most tragic consequences. How perceived this signal is in the Vatican is another story.

But there is one more interesting question: if the whole thing is solely about religion, then why not pay a visit to our Patriarch to their Pope or vice versa. Pride? .. Or the essence of this issue, like the presidential visit itself, lies in a completely different plane ...

Comments from our readers:

Andrew 57
The Vatican is the third financial pole, on a par with the Rothschild clan and the Rockefeller clan, and equal among equals, look at this point at the visit of the GDP, and what is said for the press and other mass media about Syria and the Middle East in general, so that’s official, not Moreover. For this, the GDP does not necessarily go to the Vatican, but it went to the Vatican, and not to Italy. Religion and everything connected with it, in this case, is not even the tenth matter.


Just exp
Religion has a direct relationship, in Europe began the persecution of Christianity, everywhere they are promoting "cabbage rolls."


Ivanovich47
Questions of relations between the Russian Orthodox Church and the Vatican should be decided by believers led by Patriarch Kirill. Secular power should not be involved in this process.


What is good and what is bad

A week ago, Iran and the “six” mediating countries in Geneva came to an agreement. Iran suspends the nuclear program for six months and temporarily halts the construction of the reactor in Arak, the West in response removes severe economic sanctions from Tehran. However, the diplomatic success of the negotiators in Geneva was not appreciated in Israel and Saudi Arabia. What was considered a positive result in the G6 countries, in Iran and many other countries, in Tel Aviv and Riyadh, which are recently listed as regional allies, was declared “bad”, “very bad” and even so which completely deprives sleep.



The next six months, the “six” and Iran are going to devote to the continuation of the negotiations. Probably, the mediating countries will wish to make sure that the Islamic Republic of Iran keeps its word. Tehran, in turn, wants to fully defend the right to implement a peaceful nuclear program: Iran needs to produce fuel for nuclear power plants.

Israeli Cabinet of Ministers negatively evaluated the agreement reached. Speaking on Israel’s army radio, Economy Minister Naftali Bennett said: “Israel does not see for itself the limitations associated with a signed bad, very bad agreement.”

Israel is also dissatisfied with the fact that the secret meetings of American diplomacy with Iranian representatives preceded the Geneva talks. And the secret channel of communication through Oman was offered not by anyone, but by US Secretary of State John Kerry.

It turns out that while Mr. Netanyahu diligently drew the “red lines”, the Americans were looking for a reason to become friends with Iran. America in general seems to have slowed down and is backing off: this is evident both in the situation with Syria and in the situation with Iran. What kind of anti-bunker bombs! .. Now it turns out that Obama did not receive the Nobel Peace Prize for nothing. Miracles, and only.

Against the background of the fact that the Iranian issue was removed from the geopolitical agenda (at least for half a year), some more in the Middle East gritted their teeth.

"Residents of the entire Middle East will not be able to sleep peacefully after reaching an agreement between Iran and the major powers," said Abdullah al-Askar, head of the international affairs committee of the Saudi Arabian Consultative Council.

But, for example, Bahrain’s Foreign Minister Sheikh Khaled bin Ahmed bin Mohammed Al Khalifa said: “Thanks to this agreement, we, Iran and other countries, have got rid of the feeling of fear.”

Thus, someone got rid of the feeling of fear, and someone could not “sleep well”.

It may create ... hmm ... a false impression that those who speak of a "bad" agreement would consider the decision on tomorrow's bombing of Iran to be a "good" outcome of the negotiations. The Saudis would also like it: they would even return to the UN Security Council and make friends again with Washington. Especially if Washington incidentally would have tossed "Tomahawks" Syria, where too many Shiites bred.



Comments from our readers:

andru_007
It looks like Israel is still being drained ... But is it beneficial for Russia? If the Americans come to Iran, they will be at the Caucasian "underbelly" of Russia, and that is dangerous!


catapractic
What about merging, not merging - this is another question, but Iran always plays its game when it needs to, then against Russia.


ZU-23
Yes, I watched this show all the time. Well, we are waiting for new wiles of Israel and the United Arab Emirates, or everything will remain so. What I fully agree with is that justice has triumphed.


Stiletto
Well, everything seems to have been resolved with Iran’s nuclear program, it’s time to slowly begin to express concern about Israel’s nuclear program.


andrei332809
What do you mean! Just touch the chosen ones - there will be no rest for you or your descendants until the seventh knee in this world or in the next world.


Love and stones

The Afghan government is exploring the possibility of restoring the death penalty by stoning in case of adultery, which could mean a return to the punishments that were practiced under the Taliban regime, Human Rights Watch warned, BFM.ru with reference to France Press.



Lapidation is provided for in the amendment to the Afghan Penal Code: it is being prepared by a working group in the Ministry of Justice. According to the project, married men or married women who committed adultery may be sentenced to stoning, and a person not bound by marriage, but having intimate ties with married or married, will receive a hundred lashes. Punishments will be public.

And further. A representative of the Ministry of Justice confirmed that the ministry is studying the punishments for adultery, theft and drinking in accordance with Sharia law.

Human Rights Watch is shocked that the Karzai administration has gathered to reinstate a similar death penalty twelve years after the fall of the Taliban regime.

Well, where does the "shock" come from? Karzai rule in the country is not long; in 2014, in Afghanistan - elections. Karzai will leave power, the Taliban will come to it (most likely, relatively legally, by intimidating the population, and then elections), and the American contingent will either leave Afghanistan completely or leave a small part of the military there. Karzai really doesn’t want to repeat the fate of Najibullah, who was killed by the Taliban in September 1996 (“We killed him because he was the murderer of our people”), that’s why in the last months of his reign the president started building Sharia. Hamid Karzai is in a hurry to please the bearded, not without reason, considering him an American puppet.



Comments from our readers:

Alexander Romanov
Well, what is normal, democratic. Sharia taxis.


Scoun
Karzai is not only shocking to me, I personally cannot imagine a situation at all ...
Here I go, I go ... Khlobyss, the square, and on the square there are tied woman and man, and next to him are a lot of stones ... And Cho, like I will start tossing at them, trying to get much more painful? Delirium delusional ((((
Yes, I condemn their godliness and the possible destruction of families, and if they have children, in any case they will not be in favor of it. Type:
“This Jamshud has no mother / father ...”
- Почему?
- And they were stoned for their bliss.
Although treason is essentially a betrayal (Dante's 9 circle), and society should not cultivate or condescendingly treat it, but it’s not worth stoning, but it’s not worth jailing others.
Something like that. Imha.


individual
H. Karzai feels where the stones will fly into his head and therefore redirects their flow to the other side.


Shinavat family

Thailand began to boil over after people became aware that the government, under the leadership of Yinglak Shinawatra, was preparing an amnesty bill. The fact is that under this amnesty - if the project became a law - the former head of the government of the country Thaksin Chinawat would also have fallen. This man is the brother of the current Prime Minister Yinglak Chinavat and is now registered in London (received political asylum), and lives in Dubai. In the homeland, which the billionaire politician left in 2008, he is accused of corruption and sentenced in absentia to two years in prison. The opposition, who staged peaceful protests in Thailand, is sure: Thaksin is the shadow ruler of the country. Living abroad, he skillfully pulls strings there.



Sister Thaksin heads the Phya Thai Party (or Pya Thai, For Thailand). In 2011, this party once again won the parliamentary elections and formed a government. Apparently, it's time to lend a hand to the fugitive brother. However, the people did not appreciate the gesture of the premier.

“Our only goal is to rid the country of the Thaksin regime,” said opposition leader Suep Tagsuban (ex-prime minister of the Thai government), protesting the opposition. Against the project "Phya Thai", the Democratic Party of Thailand. She is the initiator of a vote of no confidence in the current government.

On Monday, the government introduced a special security situation before 31 December in Bangkok and the surrounding areas (some media mistakenly called it a state of emergency, and this is not the same thing: the first just precedes the second); on Tuesday morning, the court issued an arrest warrant for Tagsuban. This is not surprising: 25 and 26 in November, the Thais, who heard speakers from the Democratic Party, laid siege to the buildings of a number of ministries: finance, foreign affairs, transport, home affairs, agriculture, sports and tourism. Sutep Tagsuban, who a few weeks ago resigned from the National Assembly of Thailand to lead protests on the streets of Bangkok, called these actions "peaceful national seizure."

The anti-government march through the streets of Bangkok gathered more than 400 thousand people (government estimate; according to more modest data available in the press, only 150 thousand people took to the streets). The march was unarmed, i.e., a relatively peaceful action. The army did not intervene.

Of course, Yinglak Chinavat was ready to protest. Moreover, the Thais are not prone to aggression (at the protests they distribute flowers), and there is no obvious reason for aggression. The prime minister said she was not going to resign or dissolve parliament. In addition, on Monday she expressed willingness to negotiate with the opposition. They began the very next day. Yinglak Chinavat understands perfectly well: her party “Phya Thai” has a majority in parliament, and the Democrats will not overcome it. Therefore, no vote of no confidence will happen.

Sister Thaksin used a flexible tactic: although there is a warrant for the arrest of the main opposition member, there is no command to arrest. The rise of protests Yinglak Chinavat to anything. The government even stated directly that it would not arrest Tagsuban, since he did not want a surge of discontent.

It should be noted that the party "Phya Thai" is popular among the people. In the days when Thaksin Chinavat was Prime Minister, the party implemented several social protection programs. The party acted wisely: interested the poorest and poorest segments of society, as well as small business. What is the wisdom? In the amount of acquired electorate. In addition, these programs really worked. It was from here that the further parliamentary success of the party took place.

The rival party, the Democratic Party, has connections with the royal family and “rules” in the upper house of parliament, which allows it to block projects coming from the lower house (representatives). Analysts agree that the Democratic Party will not risk bringing protests to a political crisis: in the latter case, the conflict can be resolved both by the resignation of the government and the dissolution of parliament. Then new elections will follow. Sutep Tagsuban, just like Thaksin Shinawatra, knows very well: the ruling party after the snap elections will remain the ruling party that will not confirm the legitimacy of the protests. Hence the distribution of flowers: the protesters do not want a crisis of executive and legislative power. They just want to knock down Yinglak Chinavat and convey their point of view to the government and the people. More precisely, the point of view of the Thai middle class, which is the party electorate.

The coming days will show how events will unfold and whether the government will compromise with the opposition. Yinglak Chinavat should have remembered the lessons of 2010, when, during the suppression of protests in Bangkok, 92 people were killed, and the number of victims nearly reached two thousand. By the way, in 2010, the current main opposition member Sutep Tagsuban served as assistant prime minister. And, apart from charges of incitement to street protests related to the seizure of the building of the Ministry of Finance and other ministries, this person is suspected of inciting murder: it is believed that he, occupying a high position in 2010, ordered the troops to suppress the protests. What is called the instigator squared! Thus, Yinglak Chinavat can delay time until the beginning of December, when Tagsuban is to stand trial. Protests lacking a leader are likely to fade.

However, Tagsuban is also not a fool: he organized the storming of the ministries just when he, Tagsubana, must be tried. And if he is charged, he will certainly call himself repressed for political reasons ...



Comments from our readers:

MuadDib
My wife and I returned from Thailand on November 17. Shortly before the departure, rumors about popular unrest began to reach us. When there was an excursion to Bangkok, they asked the guide what was the reason for people's discontent. She explained it quite differently than in the article: the king is 85 years old, and he is in the hospital, not sure, but it seems abroad. And after the death of the king, which is quite probable, they should ascend to the throne with Queen Seregit, their son. The prince is not young, but in his youth he managed to become famous among the people as an irresponsible person. There were several scandals in which he played a major role, but they all hesitated, because in the country it is not customary to discuss the royal family. And in this regard, the people do not want him to come to power. But I would like to see on the throne a princess who, like the queen, protects medicine and education. In turn, the army is on the side of the prince: he deserves respect among the military, is a military pilot and led military operations in conflicts with Burma.


alone
In short, a handful of people manipulate the crowd to get their hands on power! As always.


Everywhere is Chinese sky

Beijing’s decision to expand the air defense zone in the water area, which its neighbors have also defended, caused anger in Seoul and Tokyo. The Chinese criticized Washington. Nevertheless, China is threatening to use “defensive” actions against violators of its air border, writes Andrei Rezchikov ("Sight").



The United States, Japan and South Korea condemned the expansion of the Chinese air defense zone in the East China Sea. The main dissatisfaction is caused by the fact that the zone includes the space above the Senkaku Islands and the Iodo submarine rock controlled by South Korea in the area of ​​Jeju Island: the South Korean and Chinese special economic zones converge there.

The Ministry of Defense of China announced the creation of the Air Defense Identification Zone in the East China Sea the day before. Beijing now requires that all aircraft entering the air defense zone provide in advance their identifying information and route information. In case of refusal, the Chinese side reserves the right to apply measures of a “defensive” nature.

In Seoul, expressed concern about the threat of a dispute. “The air defense zone is partially superimposed on the Korean air defense identification zone in the area west of Jeju Island ... This is an area of ​​20 width and 115 km length, which is one and a half times the area of ​​Jeju Island,” said an unnamed military source.

Washington was worried about the escalation of "the situation that leads to an increase in tension in the region and affects the interests of the United States and our allies." “We informed China of our serious concerns and coordinate with our partners and allies in the region,” said the representative of the National Security Council under US President Caitlin Hayden.

Speak and Secretary of State. John Kerry declared that the White House was “deeply concerned” with China’s plans, and called his decision “an attempt to change the status quo in the region”.

Well, let me add, Beijing has long been trying to change this very status quo. No wonder for several years now Obama has been directing the American strategic doctrine to the APR.

The topic has been developed.

As transmits ITAR-TASS with reference to ARMS-TASS, the United States reaffirmed its allied commitments to ensure the security of Japan in connection with the PRC’s decision to create an identification air defense zone in the East China Sea.

“The United States reaffirms its commitment to its long-term policy, according to which Article 5 of the Treaty on Mutual Cooperation and Security Guarantees with Japan extends to the Senkaku Islands,” said US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel in a statement released by the Pentagon press service.

Calling the creation of this zone “an attempt to change the status quo in the region,” Mr. Hagel noted that China’s “unilateral actions” increase the risk of conflict as a result of “misunderstanding and wrong conclusions” about the intentions of the other side.

As ITAR-TASS reminds, the US administration has repeatedly stated that it opposes "any unilateral or coercive actions" that could interfere with the Japanese administration of the Senkaku Islands (Diaoyu). Washington recognizes the sovereignty of the Japanese side over this territory and believes that the controversial issue falls under the Treaty on Mutual Cooperation and Security Guarantees between the USA and Japan of 1960. According to this document, any attack on the islands will be regarded by the United States as a threat to its own national security.

The Chinese, of course, also spoke. The Chinese government has called on the United States to refrain from supporting Japan regarding the Air Defense Identification Zone in the East China Sea. This was announced by a representative of the Ministry of Defense of China, Yan Yujun, reports correspondent ITAR-TASS Alexey Selishchev.

"In recent years, we have noted an increase in the activity of Japanese military aircraft in the East China Sea," he noted.

Yang Yujun stressed that "Japan has no right to make irresponsible statements regarding the Identification Zone," and "The United States should not indulge Japan in sending adventurous signals."

Thus, let us add from ourselves, it seems, the time has come in history when China set out to put in place its geopolitical rivals.



Comments from our readers:

MIKHAN
It’s just that China plays with muscles, so to speak, probes the reaction ... Our Tu also probe the situation near the border of Japan ... One of the reasons is that the Japanese are poisoning the ocean and seas by releasing radioactive water (economical, damn ...) Greenpeace even there does not smell. Strange, isn't it ???


AlNikolaich
Something events are beginning to resemble the preface to the books of Alexander Afanasyev: “The period of disintegration,” “The Hour of Heroes,” “The Fall of Babylon,” and “The Wrath of God from the Third World War series. Slipping such parallels that frost on the skin!
And the end looms like Gleb Leonidovich Bobrov in his “Epoch of the stillborn.”
Of course, I understand that this is the work of futurist writers, but ...
Guys! Where are we going? To what line? She is already close! Maybe it's time to stop, think? The point of no return is too close ...


Thirty three heroes against NATO

It would seem that the issue of missile defense, which NATO is now intensively engaged in in Romania, in connection with the agreement on the Iranian nuclear issue should be removed from the agenda. Russian Foreign Minister Comrade Lavrov said that the United States and NATO will have to abandon their Eastern European plans if the Iran complies with the terms of the agreement to limit the nuclear program. The statement is logical: after all, the NATO members claimed that the missile defense shield has nothing to do with the Russians, but against the threat from Tehran.



At the media forum in Rome, Lavrov said the following: "If an agreement on Iran is implemented, the reason that is called as the need to create a missile defense system in Europe will disappear."

However, the West is not going to turn off Euro missile defense. Iran turned out to be peaceful? Comrade Lavrov spoke and reminded whom the antimissiles will be directed against? Do not worry, we find other enemies.

And found.

They found as many as thirty such states, "really" threatening peace and security. November 25 in the media there were reports of a strange response to NATO Lavrov.

“NATO’s missile defense system is not designed to protect against any particular country. We are talking about protection from a real and growing threat, but against a real threat, we need real defense. ”- said Alliance staff in Brussels. He explained: “We know that more than 30 countries have or are acquiring ballistic missile technology, which can ultimately be used as carriers of not only conventional warheads, but also weapons of mass destruction.” And he concluded: there are no grounds for revising the agreements on missile defense.

Amazingly, the Western media again threw an anonymous statement into the media space. The unnamed source is an extremely convenient way to feed material. Any material, we emphasize. First, no responsibility. Secondly, full scope and complete freedom for propaganda. Thirdly, these dark sources are always popular with pro-government Western media, which immediately take them away for quotations or reprints. Newspapers, magazines, television, radio, the Internet, then “experts” and “analysts” are connected, as well as the close ranks of other anonymous authors, already with reference to “government circles”, “high-ranking employees” and some “knowledgeable” people - and As a result, it is very difficult for a simple man in the street, that is, someone who can often vote for politicians and pay taxes, to get to the truth. Actually, he will not dig out. As the character of one film said: “We in the West have become accustomed to trusting the press.”

As for the thirty enemy countries (or rather, more than thirty) and the “real threat”, which the anonymous author declared, the source withdrew from the story about these thirty-three heroes.

This is understandable. He is anonymous. His business start, and then picked up by others. It is not surprising, therefore, that someone Mr. X is in charge of our foreign minister. A friend of journalists rubbing their hands in anticipation of a new sensation in the spirit of the "cold war." More than thirty opponents! Well this is what a rich material can be bungled! Only now they would think: if they used to say that the European missile defense system is not directed against Russia, now Moscow is clearly among the "thirty" NATO enemies. Of course, the West will have to somehow recognize this - if not today, then six months later, when Iran fulfills the conditions of the Geneva agreement. And he will perform. This is obvious in the same way as the fact that Israel alone will not risk bombing Iran. And the Saudis do not go there either. So far, the main question is Syria ...

With NATO, one thing is clear: if you believe the anonymous author, then the construction of a missile defense system in Eastern Europe to Tehran’s nuclear program, which the West and Israel considered military, was not really related. If, however, anonymous statements are a simple injection on trial, then it becomes clear: NATO is testing the ground for further tactics in the media space. Russians didn't like the idea of ​​30 enemies? Well, we will think about it, but for now let us return to Iran.

And they are back.

The fact that the agreement of the "six" with Iran to suspend the Iranian nuclear program did not change the US plans to deploy missile defense in Europe, said RIA News" 26 November, Laura Lukas Magnuson, representative of the US National Security Council at the White House.

“Although the G-6 and Iran have reached an initial agreement on the Iranian nuclear program, a lot of work remains to be done, and we are negotiating a full-scale solution over the next six months. Our views on the importance of missile defense in Europe and our commitment to a European phased adaptive approach to the development and deployment of missile defense systems remain unchanged, ”she said.

That's all; “There is still a lot of work to be done.”

In fact, the media - both Western and Russian - in many respects are speculating on the topic of European missile defense. Nobody expected any changes in the deployment of the system in Eastern Europe. Even Lavrov. He simply could not keep silent: the case was very convenient.

Back in early November, US Secretary of State John Kerry, while on a visit to Europe, said that the deployment of a missile defense system would probably not depend on improving relations with Iran. His words reminded the newspaper Tehran Times. John Kerry said that “nothing has changed” in this respect and that he does not foresee any changes. Following in NATO confirmed that the missile defense is "a deterrent against any threats to Europe, and not just those that come from any one country."

Another thing is that the United States and NATO, broadcasting at one time about European missile defense and the Iranian threat, snagged just like Obama snared a Syrian “red line” (everyone remembers the “serial” with chemical weapons and speeches about this by the US President). Any designated “feature”, any particular named “enemy” is unambiguously interpreted by the world community. Subsequently, Obama claimed that journalists misunderstood him and that he did not speak about any red lines. Now Washington and NATO will have to assure the international community that we are talking about some kind of total defense against all enemies at once, and that journalists also misunderstood about Iran. Iran was simply one of the "real" enemies, and besides it there are thirty more.

Probably, soon we will hear statements about this.



Comments from our readers:

Same lech
Yes, a no-brainer, that as long as RUSSIA exists, the WEST will come up with a bunch of excuses for moving its military to the borders of RUSSIA.
Nobody has canceled the future DRANG NACH OSTEN to RUSSIA: everything goes according to plan.


makarov
... and also Lavrov should directly raise the question about the problem of SCROSS in politics (I think that in the media).


Bezarius
From the very beginning, it was obvious that missile defense was directed against Russia, and Iran was no more than a convenient excuse. However, as it was obvious that the West will never abandon plans to eliminate the sovereignty of Russia.


If you want peace, make a parabellum

The United States has recently defended its Arctic interests according to a distorted Latin dictum: “If you want peace, prepare a parabell”. The US Secretary of Defense talks about peaceful navigation in the Arctic Ocean and the freedom of navigation, and immediately declares the need for military planning in the region and the strengthening of military ties with local states. And earlier, six months ago, President Barack Obama signed the “US Strategy for the Arctic”, which noted the need to take care of the environment and preserve the region as a conflict-free zone.



The other day in the Russian media has passed news that America is going to defend the freedom of navigation in the Arctic. The head of the Pentagon, Chuck Hagel, said this: "In the Arctic Ocean, navigation should be as peaceful as in other oceans."

What worried the main American military? Perhaps advisers whispered to Hagel that the Russians had planned an invasion of the American lands through the Arctic Ocean, simultaneously wishing to seize Canada?

It turns out that Mr. Hagel was inspired not by aggressive Russians, but by topical environmental issues. The Secretary of Defense believes that it is time for the United States to make adjustments to "military planning," because ice is melting.

Hagel is also concerned with a certain northern commercial activity. Apparently, once some states are joking there, then America is necessary. And who in the USA everywhere first puts his nose into “activity”? That's right, the military. Therefore, as the peace-loving Vietnamese veteran Hagel said, the Pentagon "will continuously make assessments of its needs in the Arctic as commercial activity grows in the region."

And so that the Kremlin did not think that some hidden threat was addressed to it, the Minister of Defense explained: “Washington will strengthen military ties with the Arctic countries. This includes Russia, with which the United States and Canada have common interests in the region and are seeking to create opportunities for constructive cooperation between the military. ”

The Pentagon took the Arctic because the melting of the ice opens up new sea routes, and Russia is already there. And then there is oil and gas. And, if you think about it, Russia is the main strategic player in the region. And the United States can not tolerate this. Hence, Hagel’s statements, and Obama’s “Strategy”. It is clear that they are talking about energy, ecology, security, freedom of navigation and other pleasant things to the international community. The Russian threat is from some Romney’s rhetoric, but not Obama and his appointee Hagel.

Before the three-day November security conference in Canada, Hagel told the Associated Press reporters about climate change, energy, security in the Arctic, and the emergence of polar maritime routes that provide new opportunities. And these very possibilities were cleverly linked not with America, but with all countries of the world. “This opens up many new opportunities for different countries, for the whole world,” said Mr. Hagel on his way to Halifax.

Of course, where possible, there are threats. “But at the same time, this brings with it new challenges,” said the head of the Pentagon. “Therefore, the United States should take a very active part in this group.”

All this is trite. The United States simply does not want to miss the tasty northern piece that Russians, Canadians, Norwegians share, and even the Chinese lately, whose participation in the division of the cake looks a bit doubtful. But the Chinese are very eager to replace the decrepit hegemon on the planet.

The current geopolitical players in the Arctic are attracted by not caring for local mammals and not upholding an undefined “security”. The interests of all those who rotate in the Arctic are purely economic. Industrialists and governments are in a hurry to divide those thirty percent (almost a third!) Of the world's undiscovered gas reserves that may be in the region and thirteen percent of the oil reserves (estimates). When the ice begins to melt - and it happens in years through 15-20 - access to these natural treasures will be facilitated. According to some expert data, in 2030, all the ice in the Arctic will disappear. Tour operators are already thinking about new northern routes (no joke).

The US military simply can not participate in the carving of such a pie. Under the guise of oceanography, high ranks have already made the relevant statements.

Team leader fleet The US on climate change, Rear Admiral and Oceanographer Jonathan White told the Associated Press that the military should already be thinking about strategic Arctic doctrine, military equipment, aircraft, military training, and more.

The same White said that the US Navy is working to create technologies to strengthen the hulls of ships, so that they can withstand the pressure of the ice.

And this means that the Americans want to be present in the region even before the ice melts there completely. They want to be there if not today, then tomorrow.

According to White, the issues of expanding the infrastructure of naval bases in the Arctic are also being considered in Washington. "We need to start searching for effective solutions that will allow the creation of the Arctic Navy in less than ten years," the American admiral explained.

It should be noted that Russia is well aware of the Arctic concern of America. And make the appropriate conclusions.

Last month, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu spoke on the subject of the return of naval ships to the Arctic. It is also known that the Ministry of Defense is building a Temp airfield on the New Siberian Islands.

The other day, the position of Russia was also explained by the Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, Nikolai Patrushev. According to him, the government is carrying out "consistent work to strengthen the groupings of troops to protect the national interests of Russia in the Arctic."

From all this we can conclude that in the region there is a struggle for resources and trade routes, which translates into a real informational battle in the geopolitical field. No, the new “cold war” still does not smell, although we are talking about the northern territories. However, the closer the world comes to melting the ice, the hotter this prelude will be to the “cold war” ...



Comments from our readers:

Canep
None of their aircraft carriers can operate in the Northern Ocean. It's cold for them, and the steam catapult freezes up with ice. The remaining ships need refitting, there are only submarines. But they are suitable only for patrols and surveillance. NO AMERICANS ARCTIC FLEET. And given their economic condition and is not expected. There is no need to remind about “Gerald Ford”, as long as it is a nuclear trough, without catapults, finishers and radar.


bif
Moreover, there is not even a scientific base, experience in the construction and operation of anything in the conditions of northern latitudes. Even praised GPS in those latitudes gives an error of at least 800 m.
The backlog from the Russian Federation is insurmountable, and even 20-30 will have very little to decide for years under the conditions of economic decline.
So, the gentlemen from the States can want and plan anything, but only the Wishlist has not grown.


Carved Churkin

The American press has given rise to doubt its objectivity. The CNN television channel cuts out answers to key questions from an interview with Russia's permanent representative to the UN, Vitaly Churkin, about Syrian support for Bashar al-Assad and the opposition’s actions that are hindering humanitarian missions in a country torn by civil conflict, Ilya Kharlamov reports ("Voice of Russia").



CNN cut a fragment in which Comrade Churkin calls not to exclude Assad from the negotiation process: after all, the president is supported by the majority of Syrians. The reason for this lies on the surface, says the general director of the Center for Political Information Alexei Mukhin:

“The United States media seem to be trying to support the country's leadership for patriotic reasons, which, to put it mildly, has lost face in resolving the Syrian issue. And now they are involved in the information confrontation with Russia. Such tricks, becoming public knowledge and attention of the public, including the world, do not do credit to the American press, which seems to be considered a reference from the point of view of democracy and freedom of speech. "


In another episode, Vitaly Churkin speaks about the inadmissibility of the opposition putting forward preliminary conditions for the start of the negotiation process in Geneva. He critically assesses the actions of the rebels, who impede the evacuation and humanitarian assistance to the population, and also criticizes the states that support the opposition. Russia's permanent representative also indicates that the Assad government agreed to evacuate people.

A political scientist Pavel Salin suggests looking at the professional side of the matter:

“At least with regard to the print media, there is a rule: if someone gives an interview, then the final text must be given to the author for approval. I do not know if it concerns television. But if it does, it was necessary for the Russian diplomat to show the final plot for approval. Apparently, everything happened without his knowledge. This is not the first time when uncomfortable statements on American TV channels are retouched.

Suffice it to recall the history of 2008 of the year, when there was a Russian-Georgian conflict, and a girl from Ossetia was invited to broadcast on one of the TV channels. The management of the channel expected her to make anti-Russian statements, but she began to make pro-Russian statements. Since it was a live broadcast, and it was impossible to remove anything, the TV channel immediately went on commercials and stopped the performance. ”


The online version of the interview with Comrade Churkin is also very cropped. And referring to the shortage of airtime to journalists is not from the hand, the Voice of Russia correspondent notes. Obviously, we are talking about banal censorship. No wonder the London journalist Afshin Rattanzi called the actions of CNN "a catastrophe for the media."

This story has been continued.

As stated by CNN spokesman Jonathan Hawkins, the management of the television company decided to publish a full transcript of an interview with the representative of the Russian Federation at the UN, Vitaly Churkin, in order to show that the channel is not trying to hide anything. He added that the full text of the conversation is being published “in the interests of transparency,” "RT" with reference to ITAR-TASS.

Mr. Hawkins said that the full interview with Churkin will be available on the website of leading Christian Amanpour, who met with the Russian permanent representative. According to the representative of the TV channel, abbreviation of the interview, which is not live, is a normal practice.

“We never distort the meaning of the interview,” Hawkins added.

Deputy Director of the Information and Press Department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, Maria Zakharova, also commented on the incident with American censorship on the Facebook page of the department. According to her, this practice of the Western media, when “unnecessary” for the audience assessments are thrown out of the interview, was not the exception, but the norm, especially in relation to the statements of Russian representatives.

So, let us add, Christian Amanpour is right: for the American media this is “normal practice”.



Comments from our readers:

LaGlobal
What about freedom of speech? Where are the principles of democracy, which everyone so fiercely advocates and imposes? Is the truth and the position of Vitaly Churkin, and as a result of official Moscow, do not coincide with the hypocrisy and lies of the Americans?


Heinrich ruppert
…Here is how it was. Not so long ago, when Julian Assange hid in the Ecuadorian embassy in London, his speech was broadcast from the embassy balcony, live broadcast. I canceled meetings on that day, stocking up on beer and fish and waited in front of the TV.
The broadcasting time is coming, he goes to the balcony - and it begins ...
The first four sentences are translated into German, then there is a translation of individual phrases ... And after about two and a half minutes, the "translation" ends, then comes English. The problem is that I am in English, except for the “face of the table”, not Petra, and I am not the only one. Where are you, democracy? And she is only in the wallet. Something like this.


Comrade dad

As transmits "Expert Online", in the apostolic epistle, Pope Francis condemned “wild capitalism”, which he compared with the “new tyranny”, and the cult of money.



On Tuesday, Bishop Reno Fisichella read the apostolic message of the pontiff - the first written work of that at the new post, one might say, program work.

In a note to the magazine "Expert" states that since the election of the 76-year-old pontiff demonstrates craving for modesty. He preferred the Vatican Hotel to the Apostolic Palace, and he drives a Ford Focus. He also removed a bishop from the service, who spent several million euros on a luxury residence.

In the manifesto, the Pope attacked “wild capitalism”, comparing it with the “new tyranny”, and called on politicians to fight poverty and inequality, to provide citizens with work, education and medical care. Comrade Papa believes that the economic system has become flawed: after all, it is based solely on the cult of money.

Of course, we add from myself, Dad did not make the discovery. In addition, he was wrong: the capitalist economic system was still vicious. Such comrades lived in the world — Marx and Engels. They have done a lot to expose the vices of capitalism and a popular explanation of what the bourgeois are ready to go for three hundred percent of the profits.

However, Comrade Dad is on the right track. And his meeting with V. V. Putin, who, as they say, is the secret ideologue of the USSR 2.0, also talks about something ...



Comments from our readers:

Egoza
Thank you, Comrade Dad! Communists will support you!


alexey.sh
... The cult of money is now the world's leading religion, consumer society, after all.


individual
The author of the publication brings a new stream in modern ethical standards.
So, he writes:
"Comrade Papa believes that the economic system has become flawed: after all, it is based solely on the cult of money."
CLASS!
Comrade !!!
Comrade - means ours?
Pope with a small letter!?!
On the other hand, if our “patriarch” is written with a lowercase (small) letter, then why should their “papa” be with a large one?


* “Now Humpback! I said: Humpback! "- the phrase from the movie" The meeting place can not be changed "
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  1. andrei332809
    andrei332809 1 December 2013 08: 50 New
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    Well, wait, wait. thanks to the authors hi Now you can do business and charge for the day received wink
    1. Civil
      Civil 1 December 2013 08: 55 New
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      the meaning of the whole opus is simple, they are all homosexual there, and we are all polls D, Artanyans)))

      ps and about EuroPRO - all masks are reset. So, Ukraine is not just ready to drag it into the EU by all means.
      1. slovak007
        slovak007 1 December 2013 09: 25 New
        11

        If Ukraine is dragged into the EU, then it will be dragged into NATO, and there you look at the border and bases with missile defense appear.
        1. 222222
          222222 1 December 2013 12: 46 New
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          slovak007 RU Today, 09:25 ↑
          Если Украину затащут в ЕС,то потом затащут и в НАТО,..."
          .. Debriefing..
          "Таким образом – можно констатировать, что вильнюсский саммит закончился стопроцентной победой той страны, которая вообще в нем не участвовала. То есть России. Счет четыре–ноль в пользу Путина добавляет к списку его блестящих внешнеполитических побед последнего времени пожалуй самую выдающуюся, по сути –историческую. Подчеркнем - счет именно четыре–ноль. Потому что ни с Молдовой, ни с Грузией игра еще далеко не закончена. Шансы нынешних молдавско-румынских начальников продержаться у власти до следующего подобного саммита вообще близки к нулю. Что же касается Грузии, то в Тбилиси явно выдают желаемое за действительное, когда говорят, что Москва никак на них повлиять не может. Еще как может..."
          http://odessa36.tv/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=22626:2010-10-02
          -20-35-04&catid=2618:2011-10-02-11-25-31&Itemid=112

          whole list .. video and letters ..
          http://odessa36.tv/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=2618:2011-10-02
          -11-25-31 & Itemid = 112 & layout = default
          1. 222222
            222222 1 December 2013 17: 06 New
            +8
            Sergey Dorenko: The people of Ukraine are driving the President into a dead end. VIDEO
            Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-132203.html
            ""Недалеким людям на улице не понять, что они лишь пешки в политической игре. Но самое главное, Украина, даже в составе Европы, как была захолустьем, так им и останется. Чуда не произойдет, украинцы не превратятся в одночасье в трудолюбивых немцев. Поставки же пышных украинских девушек Европа и так исправно получает",
            .. Tough .. but ... lumpy .. Hey, well done !!!
          2. Xroft
            Xroft 1 December 2013 18: 08 New
            +2
            а тем временем в Украине начинается попытка "революции"...по Западному образцу(мирные манифестации превращаются в вооруженный захват) Захвачено здание гор.администрации Киева и дом профсоюзов. Большинство активистов приехало из Львова(пойманы граждане с польскими паспортами)http://news.mail.ru/politics/15895017/?frommail=1
            Ps remember what happened in Syria? and an article about the possibility of war in Ukraine and the introduction of our troops for the return of the Russian Crimea?
            1. Evgenij.
              Evgenij. 2 December 2013 04: 29 New
              0
              God forbid this happen.
        2. Bosk
          Bosk 1 December 2013 13: 12 New
          +2
          Не приведи Господь у меня к НАТО особой любви нету,они конешно те ещё "редиски"...но за что им такая "головная боль"?
        3. Heccrbq.3
          Heccrbq.3 1 December 2013 14: 28 New
          +2
          Well, there will be bases, and European Championships? War? What for? Resources we regularly drive there for free (well, money like in the stabilization fund, only the stabilization fund in Western banks laughing ). All these gestures are a distraction. Find an external enemy and the people will forget about their problems and rally. You are being manipulated, guys.
      2. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 1 December 2013 09: 35 New
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        Quote: Civil
        ps and about EuroPRO - all masks are reset.

        They are not particularly disguised.










        1. Sosed74
          Sosed74 1 December 2013 12: 12 New
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          Ingvar 72
          And let me be branded again by the prospect ... com of all Russia, but I believe that when crimes of people of such rank are being considered, the head of state should personally control the course of the investigation. This is at least.
          The words are GOLD. Least.
          And the situation is that the president is just a cog in the system. The system of embezzlers and thieves - transmitting the feeder from generation to generation. 1 person cannot - even let the president break the system in which ALL those in power are. Everyone steals, everyone covers each other. Hand washes - all relatives and friends of relatives. And those who turn out to steal - either get fired or an accident - such as an accident.
          The Russian state has long been rotted right through from the very top, beginning and ending with bosses in the field in cities and villages. One thief and a crook - nothing sacred. And the people are those who can and should be milked and robbed.
          In 2014, a crisis will begin - from which again only ordinary people will suffer (the rich will become richer and the poor poorer) - the same buckwheat will again cost 90 r / kg, instead of the current 40 r. For a couple of years, the people have become completely impoverished, hence the waves of crime, banditry, theft and robbery.
          Well, by the year 2016, the massacre will begin.
          It is impossible to forever rob your country and people. Russians endure for a long time, but not forever.
          1. Heccrbq.3
            Heccrbq.3 1 December 2013 14: 42 New
            -5
            I hope the massacre will begin earlier and we will throw this Jewish yoke from our shoulders. There is no longer any strength to endure.
            1. smile
              smile 1 December 2013 15: 14 New
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              Heccrbq.3
              Mdaaaa ... hope for the massacre? Amazing ... Well, what are you waiting for? If you endure no strength, start, otherwise you’ll do it.
              Who will be the first to kill neighbors? secretary from the administration? Or start with those who, on duty, protect the state from scumbags like you?
              Unfinished militants from the North Caucasus will joyfully support you - they will obviously be your allies, because if the Russians start killing each other, this will be their only chance. because they will cease to be given due attention.
              Interestingly, did you even think how happy the bloodless Russian people would be in the ruins of the country after the fratricidal massacre?
              What happiness will you have personally if you manage to survive, if our economy is covered with a copper basin, your family members die?
              To be honest, it doesn’t fit in my head what people like you ... people craving for blood ... think and whether they can think at all ... at least about something ...
              1. tomas.09
                tomas.09 1 December 2013 15: 55 New
                +5
                And how much can you endure it? Let them steal? let them spit in your eyes? let them mock?
                1. smile
                  smile 1 December 2013 23: 31 New
                  +1
                  tomas.09
                  It’s interesting, you suffered when the scale of theft was an order of magnitude cooler than the current one - in the nineties, when they opened the whole country ... and now, like a swamp yelled, they are ready to kill ... when we crawl out of the abyss .... we wanted to go back?
                2. Evgenij.
                  Evgenij. 2 December 2013 04: 34 New
                  +1
                  it is necessary to fight, for example, they extort a bribe from you, and you, paradox, do not pay, but you report to the police.
                  Fight this way.
                  1. evgenm55
                    evgenm55 9 December 2013 12: 19 New
                    0
                    And who is the police? Do you really think the Zheglovs and the Sharapovs are the same extortionists and bribe takers? I went out for a smoke on Friday night (I live on the 16th opposite the same house) On the next roof, two are digging something, I’m ringing in, I ask - yours? No, I already see that they’re cutting the cable. I’m calling the cop, I’ll tell everything in detail, they’ll say, we’ll get there. We arrived at 9 a.m. and not to the next roof, but to my house and they say: let’s go to the cop, explain it. Well, not stupid people ?
              2. Ivan.
                Ivan. 1 December 2013 16: 02 New
                +9
                Quote: smile
                Heccrbq.3
                Mdaaaa ... hope for the massacre? Amazing ... Well, what are you waiting for? If you endure no strength, start, otherwise you’ll do it.

                Он имел ввиду другое(надеюсь), по тому расслоению в обществе, по тому сколько людей приняло иудейские ценности, гейропейские ценности, по предсказаниям ряда святых и т.д. и т.п. - вряд ли удастся избежать гражданской войны. Откровенных врагов уже слишком много и слишком много у них власти а потому законными методами вряд ли можно изменить ситуацию. Постоянно говорят что русские долго запрягают зато потом мощно "распрягают" вот и дождёмся! Ибо я не вижу улучшения - шаг вперёд а назад два.
                1. tomas.09
                  tomas.09 1 December 2013 16: 09 New
                  +1
                  Dear Smile calls us to be wiped !!!
                  1. Ivan.
                    Ivan. 1 December 2013 16: 33 New
                    +6
                    Quote: tomas.09
                    Dear Smile calls us to be wiped !!!

                    No, he just has a good idea of ​​how it might end.
                    1. smile
                      smile 1 December 2013 23: 33 New
                      +1
                      Ivan
                      Thank. Just Thanks .... with a capital letter.
                  2. Fin
                    Fin 1 December 2013 18: 18 New
                    +4
                    Quote: tomas.09
                    Dear Smile calls us to be wiped !!!

                    He encourages you to think with your head a little further than today.
                    1. smile
                      smile 1 December 2013 23: 39 New
                      -2
                      Fin
                      And thank you, colleague.
                2. smile
                  smile 1 December 2013 23: 38 New
                  +3
                  Ivan
                  Damn ... and I really do not like very much. But I am against the bloody mess - it will cost us all too much in every sense. It’s better not to be better. The most obscene thing is that so far I do not see the force or person who could cope with our problems better than the one that is now in power.
                3. Evgenij.
                  Evgenij. 2 December 2013 04: 36 New
                  +2
                  Enough wars on us, do you want the Russian ethnos extinct? 2 revolutions, 2 world wars, civil war - we are almost gone
            2. Evgenij.
              Evgenij. 2 December 2013 04: 32 New
              0
              not enough revolutions and civil war? over the last century, more than 50 million Russians died, few ???
      3. AVV
        AVV 1 December 2013 15: 14 New
        +2
        You can listen, but you can not trust the States and its satellites, no matter how !!!
      4. duke
        duke 1 December 2013 21: 10 New
        +1
        yes you sho sir, you are still a papal legate ??? I didn’t take you for the place of Dydydy .... Ar..ar still ... that .. I called the nanny on a duel, find the same gay sex in a fucking company? Yes, you sho uncle? did you affect? Go drink the gas pipes ... and don’t touch the captain of the karalevsky’s m .. m ... y ... u ... shketer ...
    2. kris
      kris 1 December 2013 12: 06 New
      13
      Article 293. Negligence

      [Criminal Code of the Russian Federation] [Chapter 30] [Article 293]
      1. Negligence, that is, non-fulfillment or improper fulfillment by an official of his duties as a result of unfair or negligent attitude to the service, if this resulted in major damage or a substantial violation of the rights and legitimate interests of citizens or organizations or legally protected interests of the society or state

      shall be punished with a fine of up to one hundred twenty thousand rubles or in the amount of the salary or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to one year, or compulsory work for up to three hundred and sixty hours, or correctional work for up to one year, or arrest for up to three months .

      Do not wash the stool again!
      1. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 1 December 2013 12: 31 New
        +7
        Quote: kris
        Do not wash the stool again!


        If you believe Izvestia, then this is not the final decision:

        Serdyukov may be charged with malpractice.

        The criminal case against ex-Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov under the article “Negligence” can be re-qualified as “Abuse of official position”, Izvestia sources in the Main Military Investigation Department (GVSU) do not exclude it. The sanction under this article provides for up to 10 years in prison. However, experts doubt that the case will be re-qualified if there is no political will.

        “The evidence gathered is enough to indict abuse of authority,” said an informed interlocutor at the GVSU. - The road to the personal dacha of Valery Puzikov, the husband of Serdyukov’s sister, was built and planted by soldiers of the Southern Military District, instead of serving. This is the abuse of their powers and the ex-minister’s personal interest in increasing the “capitalization” of the property of a loved one.

        http://izvestia.ru/news/561525

        Buk will eat up that reason will triumph and Taburetkin will be slapped with an article, 285 of the Criminal Code, which provides for up to 10 years, although for such crimes this is a very lenient punishment.
        1. bolonenkov
          bolonenkov 1 December 2013 14: 01 New
          -4
          Buk will eat up that reason will triumph and Taburetkin will be slapped with an article, 285 of the Criminal Code, which provides for up to 10 years, although for such crimes this is a very lenient punishment.


          It was very interesting to watch the battles in the comments, and the constant argument that Serdyukov is a witness, now he has become an accused, and how to apologize and continue to be more restrained in remarks, but no, now the article is not the same, and a new argument arises - Seryukov it was necessary to hang, and he is only charged with negligence, I wonder what will the hamsters say then, when it is really closed? What do we need to abolish the death penalty?
          1. 11111mail.ru
            11111mail.ru 2 December 2013 16: 59 New
            0
            Quote: bolonenkov
            What do we need to abolish the death penalty?

            Проголосуйте за это предложение и м.б. спасете свою грешную душу, поскольку по правилам формальной логики (-)*(-)= +. Кстати мОраторий, через "о" пишется, просмотрите "Кавказскую пленницу" ... "Да, да мОмент и в мОре!". Богиня смерти у славян называлась МОРЕНА.

            Quote: bolonenkov
            Seryukov had to be hung


            Are you serious? Growing up, however.
        2. morpex
          morpex 1 December 2013 22: 14 New
          +9
          Quote: GreatRussia
          Buk will eat up that reason will triumph and Taburetkin will be slapped with an article, 285 of the Criminal Code, which provides for up to 10 years, although for such crimes this is a very lenient punishment.

          If you take a mortgage of 4 million, then pay it 25 years.
          And if you steal 4 million, then sit 7 years ...
          This thought haunts me...
      2. 222222
        222222 1 December 2013 15: 14 New
        +3
        Results of the week. “Now Humpback! I said: Hunchback! ”
        kris (8) RU Today, 12: 06 ↑
        "..не хре ново отмывают табуретку !..."
        " Горбатого только могила исправит "
        (Folk wisdom)
      3. Evgenij.
        Evgenij. 2 December 2013 04: 37 New
        0
        wait 10
  2. Apollo
    Apollo 1 December 2013 08: 50 New
    21
    Good morning everybody hi

    To the topic Nothing personal, only negligence

    Serdyukov is covered or not, it’s clear that the power has completely lost fear. It is power that is accountable to the people and not vice versa.

    To the topic of Pope and Putin.

    The meeting, in my opinion, has an unprecedented case when the views of Vladimir Vladimirovich and the Pope coincided on many international issues. Will Putin be able to influence the Catholic world in the long run ?! If so, then this will be yet another foreign policy victory of Vladimir Putin.

    Thank you Oleg and Alex hi for the results of the week. good
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 1 December 2013 08: 53 New
      +4
      Quote: Apollon
      It is power that is accountable to the people and not vice versa.

      nuuu, it was like that under socialism. and now feudalism. means all power from God
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 1 December 2013 09: 00 New
        11
        Quote: andrei332809
        nuuu, it was like that under socialism. and now feudalism. means all power from God



        Article 3

        1. The holder of sovereignty and the only source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational people.
        http://www.constitution.ru/10003000/10003000-3.htm
        1. andrei332809
          andrei332809 1 December 2013 09: 08 New
          15
          Quote: Apollon
          . The bearer of sovereignty and the only source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational people.

          the people is the bearer of power - bears power in the corks laughing
          1. S-200
            S-200 1 December 2013 14: 08 New
            +1
            Quote: andrei332809
            the people is the bearer of power - bears power in the corks

            rather ... on the scruff of the neck - bloodsuckers ...
        2. severbob
          severbob 1 December 2013 12: 49 New
          0
          The Lord is not the bearer of the political system
        3. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 1 December 2013 13: 08 New
          +2
          Quote: Apollon
          The bearer of sovereignty and the only source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational people.

          I REPORT:
          В списке народов и народностей, населяющих современную Российскую Федерацию народа именуемого "многонациональный" не обнаружено!
      2. PSih2097
        PSih2097 1 December 2013 09: 09 New
        +8
        Quote: andrei332809
        Quote: Apollon
        It is power that is accountable to the people and not vice versa.

        nuuu, it was like that under socialism. and now feudalism. means all power from God

        Then oligarchy, (Greek ὀλιγαρχία (oligarchia) - “power of the few”, from other Greek. Ὀλίγος (oligos) - “few” and other Greek. .Ρχή (arche) - “power”) - political regime, in which power is concentrated in the hands of a relatively small group of citizens (for example, representatives of large monopolized capital) and, at times, serves their personal and group interests, rather than the interests of all citizens. In other words, power and capital are concentrated in one hand. Oligarchs - members of the oligarchy, can either be members of the government themselves, or have a decisive influence on its formation and decision-making in their personal and group interests.
      3. alone
        alone 1 December 2013 09: 57 New
        +7
        Quote: andrei332809
        nuuu, it was like that under socialism. and now feudalism. means all power from God


        I don’t remember that, under socialism, the government was accountable to the people. Maybe we ordinary citizens had leverage over the decision of the Politburo? Maybe the party’s general secretary advised ordinary mortals to send troops to Afghanistan or not? Or maybe Stalin began a purge in a referendum in 1937 uh

        It’s certainly possible to praise the USSR and the socialist system. At the same time, the system was enough +, but there were enough minuses. But it’s ridiculous to say that the authorities are accountable to the people under socialism. Many of us lived under socialism and we know what happened there.

        And yet. The words in the constitution are always written for beauty. In reality, no power
        not accountable to their population. simple people to them to one place.
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 1 December 2013 11: 43 New
          +6
          Quote: lonely
          words in the constitution are always written for beauty. In reality, no authority
          not accountable to their population. simple people to them to one place.


          Well, for example Article 2 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation
          Man, his rights and freedoms are the highest value. Recognition, observance and protection of the rights and freedoms of man and citizen - state duty.

          And the question immediately arises, and as a citizen, do the observance of the rights and freedoms of another citizen mean nothing to me? (According to Art. 64, I’m just must respectbut I don’t have to guarantee anyone, I respect your rights but I do not guarantee compliance for my part) And this does not concern employers, and in general of all legal entities not assigned to the state?, So a private entrepreneur infringing on the rights of an employee does this completely on constitutional grounds. Of course, I am not a lawyer, but why not supplement the phrase - duty of the state and every citizen
          And there are such shoals in the Constitution of the sea ..
          Or carrier peoplesovereignty and source of power.
          Regarding the bearer of power, everything seems right at first glance. That's how people have sovereignty - completely incomprehensible. The carrier of sovereignty is the state (it is either there or not), therefore there is a concept sovereign stateAnd not sovereign people or a citizen who is a holder of sovereignty who, according to the same 2 articles, is also not obliged to observe personal rights and personal freedom in relation to himself.
          Some kind of anarchist and gangster Constitution turns out, where each Nni is not responsible for what and bears his own sovereignty to the extent of his perception. Do not find?
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 1 December 2013 11: 59 New
            +8
            Or take the position of Article 3 on the referendum and elections
            The highest direct expression of people's power is a referendum and free elections.


            From this article it follows that the highest expression of the power will of the people is a referendum and then elections.
            But what do we have today for the referendum? And we have Закон 5-ФКЗ от 28.06.2004 г. "О референдуме Российской Федерации". In which the importance of the referendum is neatly belittled -
            "Референдум ALREADY со свободными выборами является высшим непосредственным выражением власти народа"

            And if the referendum and elections are the highest direct expression of will it should probably be some form of expression of will at the local level, for example, a popular gathering or an evening party (I certainly exaggerate), because all the main arbitrariness is happening on the ground, and it’s almost impossible to conduct a federal referendum on the law without the participation of the executive branch, which in theory should be accountable to the people.
            And all this fuss for fair elections and observance of the Constitution is nothing more than a fraud of citizens by the same opposition. Is it not strange that the bogs did not have a single slogan about repealing the law in referenda in the form in which it now exists? Not one ever! The slogans were only about the elections. Means they are FAVORABLE for such a law on referenda if they nevertheless again seized power.
            Here the whole article is not enough to describe all the jambs inherently anti-people Constitution.
            1. Very old
              Very old 1 December 2013 14: 39 New
              +5
              STAS, (may it be so?) Which of us can remember the last referendum?
              FIGURES. This is for us
            2. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 1 December 2013 19: 06 New
              +1
              Quote: Ascetic
              Or take the position of Article 3 on the referendum and elections
              The highest direct expression of people's power is a referendum and free elections.


              From this article it follows that the highest expression of the power will of the people is a referendum and then elections.
              But what do we have today for the referendum? And we have Закон 5-ФКЗ от 28.06.2004 г. "О референдуме Российской Федерации". In which the importance of the referendum is neatly belittled -
              "Референдум ALREADY со свободными выборами является высшим непосредственным выражением власти народа"


              Tell me, Stanislav:

              1 Кто вносил 5-ФКЗ, добавивший в закон о референдуме понятие "НАРЯДУ"? Разве это были не депутаты от ЕР?

              2 Who signed this law? Wasn't that Vladimir Putin?

              3 Who benefits from this? Is it not to Vladimir Putin and United Russia?
          2. chehywed
            chehywed 1 December 2013 13: 08 New
            +2
            Quote: Ascetic
            Some kind of anarchist and gangster Constitution turns out, where each Nni is not responsible for what and bears his own sovereignty to the extent of his perception. Do not find?

            Ascetic,я не очень высокого мнения о депутатском корпусе,но и там не все полнейшие еноты.Есть ещё такая поговорка:"Хорошая идея всегда приходит в голову нескольким людям одновременно"
            According to experts, the current 1993 Constitution of the year no longer allows Russia to find solutions to a number of key problems and, moreover, seriously limits the country's development. Therefore, experts point to the fact that at the moment there is a need to at least make significant amendments to the Constitution, at the very least - to adopt a fundamentally new document. At the moment, the group, which in addition to parliamentarians includes sociologists, political scientists, lawyers and other experts, is considering presented one complete draft of the new Constitution of Russia. Its author was Stepan Sulakshin, general director of the Center for Problem Analysis and a deputy of the first two convocations of the lower house of parliament.

            Новый документ состоит из 240 статей, в то время как действующая Конституция содержит "всего" 137 пунктов. Изменениям в новой версии главного закона подвергнутся почти все статьи: так или иначе понятия, содержащиеся в них, будут уточнены и проработаны более подробно, чтобы не носить, как подчеркивает Сулакшин, "сугубо декларативную функцию"
            http://lifenews.ru/#!news/104385
            1. Ascetic
              Ascetic 1 December 2013 14: 18 New
              +1
              Yes, there is such a center of Sulakshin. Let's compare the duties of a citizen of the Russian Federation under the current Constitution



              По сути плати налоги и соблюдай Закон да люби природу,мать твою, и больше никаких обязанностей перед страной и самое главное ОБЩЕСТВОМ,которое при таких условиях превращается в некий набор суверенных граждан которые никому ничего не должны если платят налоги и соблюдают Закон, На Западе такое общество называют обществом "свободных людей". То есть права личности ставяться выше прав государства и общества в целом.
              Sulakshin’s most important position in the duties of a citizen is Labor is the duty of every person.What is not in the current Constitution. As soon as the obligation to the state and society to work is removed from a person, such a society will inevitably come to degradation, no matter how civilized and rich it is. An example of what liberalization and human rights has brought to Europe. From material prosperity to economic crises, almost complete spiritual impotence and intellectual and moral decay.
              Site of the Sulakshin Center http://rusrand.ru/
          3. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 1 December 2013 17: 44 New
            +3
            Quote: Ascetic
            But how people have sovereignty is completely incomprehensible.
            Ascetic, how long has the state of Earth and the people of this state existed?

            Demos always meant not an abstract people, but citizens - there were citizens (people) and there were slaves (property).

            Well, for example Article 2 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation
            Man, his rights and freedoms are the highest value. Recognition, observance and protection of the rights and freedoms of man and citizen - state duty.

            And the question immediately arises, but as a citizen, the observance of the rights and freedoms of another citizen means no place?
        2. Shuriken
          Shuriken 1 December 2013 11: 45 New
          +4
          Incidentally,
          Quote: lonely
          or maybe Stalin, through a referendum, began purging in 1937?
          --решение о чистках было принято на пленуме ЦК подавляющим большинством краевых и республиканских руководителей,а"всемогущий" Сталин,по утверждению А.Вассермана(а ему я склонен верить,чел все открытые архивы уже поизучал!)был против!
          1. alone
            alone 1 December 2013 11: 56 New
            0
            Alexander! Can you imagine a republican or regional leader who could be against the decision of the Central Committee? I don’t know what Wasserman was reading, but it would be time to turn on the logic. Yes, Vissarionych was against it, but everything in the party was decided by one person-STALIN! He was preparing the decision plenum, not members of the Central Committee! all these members did not have their own opinions, their opinion was Stalin's decision. Why distort history and facts, trying to whitewash the Soviet system? This system had its own + and -. And the truth is, this is true, no matter how bitter it may be.
            1. Alexei
              Alexei 1 December 2013 14: 42 New
              +1
              Quote: lonely
              Why distort history and facts, trying to whitewash the Soviet system? This system had its own + and -
              It's just that this is the most ideal (at the moment) political system that deftly envelops the imperfection of a person in principle. And you yourself know that. If I am mistaken, then correct me, and write, where else was or is there such an order that strikes hard at human vices?
        3. complete zero
          complete zero 1 December 2013 12: 20 New
          +7
          Одинокому-да многие из нас жили при СССР,да всегда была парт-элита "кушавшая с нами не из одной кормушки"-НО,первые секретари все же боялись потерять карьерный рост (ибо там как пауки в банке)-а идеология -позволяла ЖАЛОВАТЬСЯ простому работяге на какой то беспредел-высокопоставленного руководителя (100проц Комуниста)-и да же во времена Брежнева ему в случае такой жалобы-мало бы не показалась,я уж и не говорю про времена дяди Джо....PS-так что как говориться уважаемый (Одинокий)-это две большие разницы (сравним с нынешним временем)
          1. alone
            alone 1 December 2013 12: 30 New
            +3
            Цитата: полный ноль
            Одинокому-да многие из нас жили при СССР,да всегда была парт-элита "кушавшая с нами не из одной кормушки"-НО,первые секретари все же боялись потерять карьерный рост (ибо там как пауки в банке)-а идеология -позволяла ЖАЛОВАТЬСЯ простому работяге на какой то беспредел-высокопоставленного руководителя (100проц Комуниста)-и да же во времена Брежнева ему в случае такой жалобы-мало бы не показалась,я уж и не говорю про времена дяди Джо....PS-так что как говориться уважаемый (Одинокий)-это две большие разницы (сравним с нынешним временем)


            I remember all this. But it’s ridiculous to talk about the fact that Stalin forced the Central Committee to clear the party. This Stalin could not only force the whole Central Committee, but also force the whole country to do what he considered necessary. Yes, it happened that ordinary people wrote to Moscow and sought justice. and I don’t deny it. in the current realities it sounds like science fiction. now how many do not complain, everyone is on the drum. that’s why I wrote everything + and-. all power has + and -.
        4. Very old
          Very old 1 December 2013 12: 30 New
          +3
          Even with the primitive communal (it seems, the most ideal was the system, how far we are from it!) The power did not belong to the people

          In the words of Omar Khayyam - Bliss and appreciate!
          1. alone
            alone 1 December 2013 12: 37 New
            +3
            Quote: Very old
            In the words of Omar Khayyam - Bliss and appreciate!

            hi Say the truth, Valentine! The authorities never thought about their people.
            1. Very old
              Very old 1 December 2013 14: 21 New
              +1
              I would say: Oh! to his people. ABOUT they already think and ...
        5. Alexei
          Alexei 1 December 2013 14: 33 New
          +3
          Quote: lonely
          or maybe Stalin, through a referendum, began purging in 1937?
          And what do you think, now you need to hold a similar referendum? If, for example, purges begin now (without a referendum) then in 50 years it will be possible to say that this was not caused by the will of the people. Although you think in the know that just the people would be very happy with these purges.
          1. Very old
            Very old 1 December 2013 15: 58 New
            +2
            Nonche EdRosa celebrate anniversary.
            Think of the purity of their ranks?
            Nah
      4. Sosed74
        Sosed74 1 December 2013 12: 29 New
        +5
        Quote: andrei332809
        and now feudalism. means all power from God

        Exactly. From dad to son, from mom to daughter, from grandfather to grandchildren.
        The feudal system.
        And the people are Serfs, a herd - which must process and contain all Who have descended from heaven all their lives.
        And with all this - THEY - HATE people. The people are their ENEMY No. 1. For the worst fear is to lose their power - and only the people can take it. We are Enemies in the class. They hate that before each election they should crucify and humiliate ourselves before us - a herd of beggars - in order to observe formalities. Imagine - what a blow to the psyche ??? A man - who has been the master of everything and everything, to whom all lick all the lives, the millionaire with the mania of God - is FORCED to crucify himself before us - slaves. laughing - so that the serfs further piously believe that they decide something, they can do something. So that the lackeys understand the hopes did not lose on a brighter future. The main hope is not to take it away, otherwise the herd will rush to extremes - and everything else - you can take it to the skin, endure it.
        So here we live. wassat
        PS: The share and fate of the Slave and the Slave - is also inherited wassat - so honestly, all equally. laughing
        And you are still surprised - What are these weapons are not allowed to the population to sell. Estimate yourself. There is no money in Russia for 30 million plastic coffins - they have plundered them for a long time. laughing
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 1 December 2013 10: 42 New
      +5
      только "слуги народа" почему то живут лучше хозяев....
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 1 December 2013 11: 00 New
        +6
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        только "слуги народа" почему то живут лучше хозяев....

        And when and where was it otherwise?
        Altruism has died out as a concept of interpersonal communication.
      2. Valery Neonov
        Valery Neonov 1 December 2013 11: 15 New
        +2
        +. "Хозяева"(народ) кормят энтих "слуг"(ГД,СФ РФ.и...) и это как её...."демократия".Ага.Когда-то(старый я),было легче,НО РЕЗУЛЬТАТ!(для мОсквы)РЕШЕННЫЙ. Отт-то.. hi
      3. Bosk
        Bosk 1 December 2013 13: 08 New
        +1
        Завидовать им тоже не стоит,потому как во времена великих потрясений как показывает история,то с начало именно из них по деревьям "гирлянды"развешивают.
    3. Tersky
      Tersky 1 December 2013 11: 24 New
      +8
      Quote: Apollon
      Roof Serdyukov or not, it is clear another thing that the power finally lost fear.

      And after analyzing, I realized that:
      1. Sosed74
        Sosed74 1 December 2013 12: 41 New
        +5
        And children do not forget to study there to send. It doesn’t matter - in Russia, getting an education is at risk for life and the psyche. I am generally silent about the Army - let the lackeys of the hosts protect - for this they are born - to process and protect, steadfastly enduring all the hardships and hardships.
      2. Very old
        Very old 1 December 2013 16: 15 New
        +1
        Translated, translated ... But there is still something to translate. God cut them off paws
    4. Garrin
      Garrin 1 December 2013 16: 56 New
      +5
      Quote: Apollon
      Thank you Oleg and Aleksey hi for the results of the week. good

      I join in gratitude and am glad to welcome you, Apollo. hi
      However, I want to ask Apollo a question as a practicing lawyer.
      Is there such an interpretation of the article for negligence?
      "Преступная халатность, повлекшая за собою снижение обороноспособности государства."
      By the way, the question is not only to Apollo, but to all the lawyers on the forum.
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 1 December 2013 22: 54 New
        +3
        Quote: Garrin
        Is there such an interpretation of the article for negligence?

        Well, something like this: Serdyukov may be responsible for official forgery (Art. 292); for negligence (Art. 293 from a fine of up to 120 thousand rubles to correctional labor up to 1 years or arrest up to 3 months); for entering knowingly inaccurate information into the unified state registers (Article 285,3 - participation in a criminal group up to 6 years). And it was precisely a criminal group that deliberately deceived the state and tax authorities in concealing unscrupulously received profits from a deliberately underestimated appraisal of the property being sold. Igor hi !
  3. La-5
    La-5 1 December 2013 08: 54 New
    +4
    На Молдавию имеет свои виды Румыния, она всячески поддерживает Кишинёв в процессе "евроинтеграции" намериваясь включить Молдавию в состав своей страны.
  4. Normal
    Normal 1 December 2013 09: 03 New
    +7
    Anatoly Halatny
    ....
    Someone who is very serious is roofing Serdyukov ...

    Yes not really ???! belay
    Who could it be? what laughing
    1. Civil
      Civil 1 December 2013 09: 11 New
      +6
      Quote: Normal
      Anatoly Halatny
      ....
      Someone who is very serious is roofing Serdyukov ...

      Yes not really ???! belay
      Who could it be? what laughing

      Vasilieva !!! lol
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 1 December 2013 10: 53 New
        10
        There is one fair judge for Serdyukov .... am
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 1 December 2013 11: 05 New
          +7
          So far, the FSO has provided Tolika with a bounded Mercedes and an escort team on a high-speed foreign car. Alas, they don’t sniper, NO
          1. svp67
            svp67 1 December 2013 11: 11 New
            +1
            Quote: Thunderbolt
            So far, the FSO has provided Tolika with a bounded Mercedes and an escort team on a high-speed foreign car. Alas, they don’t sniper, NO
            Это не "группа сопровождения" - это КОНВОЙ, пока просто нет команды "ФАС", но она вскоре последует,так как "Халатный" уже НИКОМУ НЕ НУЖЕН, так как "бегает" он от одной враждующей группировки к другой и в результате его "сдадут", а Васильеву "отмажут"... И все будут удовлетворены.
            1. Thunderbolt
              Thunderbolt 1 December 2013 11: 41 New
              +5
              Quote: svp67
              нет команды "ФАС", но она вскоре последует,так как "Халатный" уже НИКОМУ НЕ НУЖЕН
              Tolik, when he was the head of the tax service --- Khodora sat down, everyone forgets about it somehow, but THIS is the root uterus of the unsinkability of Tolyan. But this topic is unspoken ... I don’t see any prerequisites for the FAS team, my personal opinion, such an action will destroy itself the vertical of the existing government. I could have said more, but perhaps I would not say anything, because the FAS will soon, but not hit the tower, but the tracks
            2. Normal
              Normal 1 December 2013 14: 56 New
              +6
              Quote: svp67
              Это не "группа сопровождения" - это КОНВОЙ,

              Whoa, how is it .... what Well, what happens? LADIES AND GDP every day on Kutuzovsky travel under escort? Yeah... belay
              You will not envy ... laughing
          2. vlad63
            vlad63 1 December 2013 13: 27 New
            +1
            This character is a secret bearer and we all understand that his zone will not wait. Alas.
            1. Normal
              Normal 1 December 2013 14: 59 New
              +1
              Quote: vlad63
              This character is a secretary


              Все секреты, что он носит, это кто, кому и сколько на самом верху "отстегивает"
        2. morpex
          morpex 1 December 2013 13: 27 New
          +3
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          There is one fair judge for Serdyukov ....

          That is not ... Too simple ... To the shameful pillar .. publicly. And to the seventh knee ..
        3. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 1 December 2013 13: 37 New
          +3
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          there is one fair judge for serdyukov .... am

          Not at all. He will be declared innocently murdered, and made a symbol of the struggle against the regime. This often happens with us; look at Yeltsin and Gaidar. Only the executioner. am
      2. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 1 December 2013 12: 03 New
        +3
        Quote: Civil
        Vasilieva !!!

        The answer is incorrect. Male rats Serdyukov
        1. Civil
          Civil 1 December 2013 14: 19 New
          +2
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          Quote: Civil
          Vasilieva !!!

          The answer is incorrect. Male rats Serdyukov

          Vasiliev ?!
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 1 December 2013 14: 27 New
            +2
            Quote: Civil
            Vasiliev ?!
            raise from memory what telegraphic pseudonym Comrade Vasiliev had. Alas, Tolik does not hold out
        2. Normal
          Normal 1 December 2013 15: 02 New
          +5
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          Quote: Civil
          Vasilieva !!!
          The answer is incorrect. Male rats Serdyukov

          Cubinos Partisanos - The Secret Agentos!
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 1 December 2013 21: 02 New
            +2
            Quote: Normal
            Cubinos Partisanos
            I always sympathized with these guys, even preparing myself for my incomplete 16 years even for the war in the jungle. Eh, youth laughing
            1. Thunderbolt
              Thunderbolt 1 December 2013 21: 18 New
              0
              Quote: Thunderbolt
              .ech, youth
              1. alone
                alone 1 December 2013 21: 25 New
                +3
                Quote: Thunderbolt
                .ech, youth


                the old man is sitting quite already with his wife, an old woman. 2 young beauties are passing by. The old man looks, looks at them and sighs deeply, saying: “Eh, youth, youth !!”
                The old woman turns her head toward the old man, stares at him intently and says angrily:
                -you and in youth was also the same as now! laughing
                1. Thunderbolt
                  Thunderbolt 1 December 2013 21: 49 New
                  +5
                  Lonely, I categorically welcome you. I support Armenia and I love Baku, I was born in the USSR and I want to live in my country and it’s very difficult to break me
                  1. alone
                    alone 1 December 2013 21: 55 New
                    +2
                    I welcome Alyosha! Thank you for the love of Baku! I appreciate your position and categorically against anyone breaking anyone, even if morally! hi

                    а этот анекдот как бы к фразе " эх молодость!" .Ничего личного.желаю ВАМ всего наилучшего soldier
                    1. Thunderbolt
                      Thunderbolt 1 December 2013 22: 34 New
                      +1
                      When the Wehrmacht threw its best divisions into the Caucasus, General Petrov, the hero of the Sevastopol Defense, was transferred there. Soldier replenishment from the Caucasian Soviet republics approached. Real guys like that arrived in the marching companies, and as a result Petrov broke these parts, drove them to the plain with an iron Soviet club. .This is blood soldered friendship. soldier
                      1. alone
                        alone 1 December 2013 22: 56 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Thunderbolt
                        When the Wehrmacht threw its best divisions into the Caucasus, General Petrov, the hero of the Sevastopol Defense, was transferred there. Soldier replenishment from the Caucasian Soviet republics approached. Real guys like that arrived in the marching companies, and as a result Petrov broke these parts, drove them to the plain with an iron Soviet club. .This is blood soldered friendship.


                        only very sorry, many have already forgotten about it. some say about bloodsuckers
                        imperials, and others who are zigging in Russia and talking about a higher race. as you noticed during the Second World War, people were on the drum who is who. everyone had one thought on their head: we were attacked by an enemy and must be destroyed on the den.
                        blogging on this friendship, blood sealed, our peoples did it! Together!
                        and about the return to the USSR, I think if its revival is even possible, it will only be a shadow of that state. It will not solve anything. Too weak all! The union of the weak cannot be strong! Regrettably, this is a fact. But to be honest and honest it is mutually beneficial. I am personally for such friendship. I am opposed to sitting at someone's neck. to milk, and then also roll a barrel.
                  2. smersh70
                    smersh70 1 December 2013 21: 55 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Thunderbolt
                    born in the USSR and want to live in my country


                    ... we are all born in the USSR .... good but it was necessary to defend him in '91 and not get rid of ... ...... now it's late ... the train left ... the USSR is gone ... the bear flew away ... sadly ... crying
                    1. Thunderbolt
                      Thunderbolt 1 December 2013 22: 09 New
                      +2
                      Quote: smersh70
                      i.e., the bear flew away.
                      BUT promised to return, that's what fear wassat good
              2. Thunderbolt
                Thunderbolt 1 December 2013 21: 25 New
                +1
                here is my attitude to the jungle war. slaughter.
    2. Combitor
      Combitor 1 December 2013 23: 10 New
      +1
      <Нормальный (3) SU Сегодня, 09:03>
      Кто "крышует" Сердюкова?
      "After returning to the daughter of Viktor Zubkov, the role of the Kremlin furniture maker in the criminal case was reduced to the status of "not spotted"
      Как и предполагали наблюдатели, замирение Анатолия Сердюкова со своей влиятельной супругой повлияло на отношение следователей к экс-министру, до этого времени считающегося «свидетелем» по делам о вопиющих нарушениях в МО. По новой версии следователей разворовали оборонную мощь страны "должностные лица" и “неустановленные лица», а также дворник из женского пансионата. Которые обвели вокруг пальца наивное, простодушное и такое доверчивое вполне конкретное лицо бывшего министра обороны Анатолия Сердюкова. Действительно, если он уверяет на допросах, что сам не знает о подписанных им же (в том числе в выходные дни) директивах, то как не поверить такому человеку?" РУСПРЕС. 15.11.2013
      Depending on the political will of the country's leadership, the ex-minister may receive either three months or ten years
      The crimes that were committed for a long time at the Ministry of Defense were so numerous and varied that it would be ridiculous to continue to represent the ex-minister as a simpleton who could not imagine what was going on in his department. The question remains only: under what article will Serdyukov be charged. In one case, the former minister may suffer a purely symbolic punishment for the losses incurred by him, in the other, a serious prison term.
      "Уголовное дело против экс-министра обороны Анатолия Сердюкова по статье «Халатность» могут переквалифицировать на «Злоупотребление служебным положением», не исключают источники «Известий» в Главном военном-следственном управлении (ГВСУ). Санкция по этой статье предполагает до 10 лет лишения свободы. Впрочем, эксперты сомневаются, что дело переквалифицируют, если на то не будет политической воли." РУСПРЕС.29.11.2013.
      Такой "щит" который стоит за спиной у Сердюкова, никакая "политическая воля" не пробьет. Слишком многих этот "щит" прикрывает.
  5. patriot2
    patriot2 1 December 2013 09: 03 New
    +3
    В общем "баскетбол обамыча проигрывает самбо владимирыча". Неплохо сказано и о папе с коммунистическим уклоном. Ну а "страшная судьба" подследственного эдуардыча тревожит каждого жителя России. Фиговый листок необходимости евроПРО сброшен - что ещё придумают за океаном?
    The review is good! smile
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  7. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 1 December 2013 09: 06 New
    +5
    Good day to all! Thank you guys for the results! As always, briefly to the point!

    However, Comrade Dad is on the right track. And his meeting with V. V. Putin, who, as they say, is the secret ideologue of the USSR 2.0, also talks about something ...
    Dad is with us!)) fellow
    1. Fin
      Fin 1 December 2013 10: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Dad is with us!))

      Хотелось чтобы так было. Я думаю ВВП приезжал "сверить часы" по ЛГБТ, ну и другим вопросам. От папы бы заявление о недопустимости гейбраков, и все норм, "добро мочить".
    2. major071
      major071 1 December 2013 10: 57 New
      13
      Greetings Vitaliy! hi
      Dad is with us!))

      После провозглашения лозунга"Папа с нами!" 1 декабря 2013 года неизвестным под ником МИХАН, по стране поползли слухи, передаваемые шепотам только на ушко в темных подворотнях, подъездах и подпольных квартирах. Папа с нами! - шепчут люди и делают многозначительное лицо. По данным РИА-Новости в стране стали создаваться "папские кружки" по типу и подобию "марксистских ячеек" начала 20 века. Глава правительства Д.А. Медведев, обеспокоенный волнением людей, дал поручение главам МВД и ФСБ России срочно установить личность человека, кинувшего клич "Папа с нами!" в народные массы. Ждем дальнейших новостей. laughing
      1. alone
        alone 1 December 2013 12: 04 New
        +2
        о
        Quote: major071
        После провозглашения лозунга"Папа с нами!" 1 декабря 2013 года неизвестным под ником МИХАН, по стране поползли слухи, передаваемые шепотам только на ушко в темных подворотнях, подъездах и подпольных квартирах. Папа с нами! - шепчут люди и делают многозначительное лицо. По данным РИА-Новости в стране стали создаваться "папские кружки" по типу и подобию "марксистских ячеек" начала 20 века. Глава правительства Д.А. Медведев, обеспокоенный волнением людей, дал поручение главам МВД и ФСБ России срочно установить личность человека, кинувшего клич "Папа с нами!" в народные массы. Ждем дальнейших новостей


        The secretary of one regional party committee was dismissed from his post and was expelled from the party for a similar slogan with Lenin. No, the slogan was true, it was simply installed in the wrong place - on the roof of the regional psychiatric hospital. laughing and about the Pope, I couldn’t drink so much! Dad is not with us, he is not with anyone, he is only with his pedophiles from the Vatican! am
    3. Valery Neonov
      Valery Neonov 1 December 2013 11: 37 New
      +1
      "Папа" с ними,и поиграть ,хотят, но не позволимо...… The whole world is convinced that this nation is worthy to be called great because it knows how to fight, that is, to overcome adversity and strike back, because it rose, organized for the struggle and because the most severe trials did not shake its unity ... The fact that Russia is in the front row of the winners gives Europe and the whole world a guarantee of balance
  8. major071
    major071 1 December 2013 09: 07 New
    +8
    andrei332809
    Well, wait, wait. thanks tepericha to the authors and you can do business-charge for the day received

    Good morning everyone!
    Hi Andrew! All the same, you jumped me today, I’ve been waiting for 8-00 in the morning, but I thought that it would come out later, that’s whistling.
    Many thanks to the authors for the review, the problems that constantly arise not only in our country, but throughout the world, will never end, so you will have many more topics for further reviews and excellent articles.
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 1 December 2013 09: 20 New
      +5
      Quote: major071
      Hi Andrew!

      hi Volodya! hi I have a repair, so I'm on my six feet. I don’t have 7, I don’t have 8 ... I waited for 11 (in Moscow for 9).
      пы.сы. может,авторов во Владивосток переселить? тогда встал утром,а "итоги" уже на месте repeat
  9. Hey
    Hey 1 December 2013 09: 08 New
    15
    I heard a good comment about Serdyukov.
    At the first meeting of the investigative committee with Serdyukov, he was in a dressing gown, so the case was brought for negligence, he would have been in the jerseys, the case would have been opened for cowardice.
    1. lukke
      lukke 1 December 2013 11: 36 New
      +3
      а был бы "ню" - за расточительность?
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    3. Fin
      Fin 1 December 2013 11: 50 New
      +2
      Quote: MUD
      I would be in only trusks, the case would be brought for cowardice.

      There was another woman, which means treason.
  10. Normal
    Normal 1 December 2013 09: 11 New
    10
    Extremist sites, schools and centers under the guise of “religious organizations” multiply like mushrooms after rain, and access to them, in fact, is open. Arabophilia? ..

    At the same time, the special services are far from always concerned about the situation, and why is it all of a sudden in the same Moscow the number of people interested in learning Arabic has recently grown several times ...


    More mosques! More migrants from Muslim republics! Even more preferences for the Caucasus!
    And we will be happy! ... am
    Alla aa wakbar!
  11. alone
    alone 1 December 2013 09: 11 New
    0
    In the manifesto, the Pope attacked “wild capitalism”, comparing it with the “new tyranny”, and called on politicians to fight poverty and inequality, to provide citizens with work, education and medical care. Comrade Papa believes that the economic system has become flawed: after all, it is based solely on the cult of money.


    capitalism is never wild or fluffy. Capitalism is capitalism everywhere. And it has one face.

    Actually, the Pope went too far. The word capitalism is created from the word capital. And capital is money. I did not know that the pope is still not in the know.
    1. Bosk
      Bosk 1 December 2013 13: 04 New
      +2
      I don’t know how it is now, but some time ago the Catholic Church was one of the largest holders of capital in Europe, it seems as if the Pope didn’t draw any dangers about the condemnation of capitalism ...
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 1 December 2013 13: 53 New
        +3
        Quote: Bosk
        it’s kind of like the Pope’s condemnation of capitalism doesn’t draw docks ..

        За эти "нестыковочки" и убрать могут. Нет, если серьезно, возможно человек собрался хоть какой-то порядок навести, особенно в связи с продолжительными скандалами. Но ведь многим это может и не понравиться. И.... будут новые выборы Папы...Как там в фильме..."Пастор Шлаг, либо светлый образ его"
        1. alone
          alone 1 December 2013 14: 04 New
          +1
          Quote: Egoza
          За эти "нестыковочки" и убрать могут. Нет, если серьезно, возможно человек собрался хоть какой-то порядок навести, особенно в связи с продолжительными скандалами


          first, let him establish order in his hut, otherwise it will teach all others how to live, but here’s a mess going on in his mansions.
  12. alone
    alone 1 December 2013 09: 14 New
    +3
    At the same time, the special services are far from always concerned about the situation, and why is it all of a sudden in the same Moscow the number of people interested in learning Arabic has recently grown several times ...


    In general, learning a language is not considered a crime. But the special services should work with the creators of these courses and find out who and how it finances.
  13. Normal
    Normal 1 December 2013 09: 20 New
    +4
    The country's prime minister resigned, feeling responsible for the tragedy in the mall ... If this is an attempt to earn political points, as the mayor of Riga claims, then how much political points could earn, for example, the Russian government! ..

    Yes! Russian politicians do not behave rationally. As soon as they resign and people's love will overwhelm them like a tsunami. We will cry with happiness and gratitude.
    And if (God forbid!) Himself resigns .... his rating will soar to an unprecedented height and in the next (immediately after the resignation) elections ... 200% of voters will vote for him.
    1. predator.3
      predator.3 1 December 2013 11: 53 New
      +5
      При всем своем "уважении" к прибалтам, считаю премьер Латвии поступил по-мужски, не то что наш киндер-премьер, который после катастрофы в Казани промямлил, что надо укрупнять авиакомпании, это вместо того ,чтобы развивать отечественную авиастроение !
      1. Bosk
        Bosk 1 December 2013 12: 59 New
        +1
        Возможно он и поступил по "мужски",но как то он вовремя это сделал,ведь его рейтинг в настоящий момент скажем так...не самый высокий и уже какое то время ходят идея что его надо как то "уйти"...,так что если он сам по человечески ушёл(что в Латвии не практикуется)то он "молодца",ну а если это пиар ход...
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 1 December 2013 13: 06 New
          +3
          Quote: Bosk
          Well, if it's a PR move ...

          ... So he hopes to return. Later. When the passions subside, and the tears of sorrow dry.
        2. predator.3
          predator.3 1 December 2013 15: 01 New
          +4
          Quote: Bosk
          Возможно он и поступил по "мужски",но как то он вовремя это сделал,ведь его рейтинг в настоящий момент скажем так...не самый высокий и уже какое то время ходят идея что его надо как то "уйти"...,так что если он сам по человечески ушёл(что в Латвии не практикуется)то он "молодца",ну а если это пиар ход...


          as if our rating is off scale, or rather off scale below the baseboard! negative
  14. major071
    major071 1 December 2013 09: 25 New
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    Just to cheer up (all the same Sunday!):
    The Pope is dying.
    At the gates of Paradise, Peter meets him.
    - What is your name? - asks Peter.
    - I am the pope!
    “Dad, dad,” Peter whispers to himself, “I'm sorry, but the popes
    I do not have in the list.
    “But, but I was God's substitute on earth !!!”
    “Does God have a substitute on earth ?!” - Peter asks in surprise, -
    Strange, I don’t know anything about this ...
    - I am the head of the Catholic Church !!!
    - Catholic Church? Never heard of such ... Wait, I
    I will ask the Chef.
    “Chef,” Peter asks God, “there is one eccentric who claims to be
    your deputy on earth, his name is the pope, this is about something for you
    He speaks?
    “No,” says God, “but wait, let's ask Jesus.”
    God and Peter explain the situation to Jesus.
    “Wait,” Jesus says, “I will talk to him myself.”
    After 10 minutes, Jesus, laughing to tears, comes back.
    - Remember the fishing club that I organized 2000 years ago?
    He still exists!
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 1 December 2013 09: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: major071
      - Remember the fishing club that I organized 2000 years ago?
      He still exists!

      Here you go! And you still haven't signed up for it! Good morning! hi
    2. Horn
      Horn 1 December 2013 11: 22 New
      +3
      Самое интересное, Иисус НЕ назначал своего наместника. А уж оправдание педерастии, что прямо осуждается в Библии,новое толкование слов Еванглия "...сказал им Пилат: кого хотите, чтобы я отпустил вам: Варавву, или Иисуса, называемого Христом? 18 ибо знал, что предали Его из зависти. 19 Между тем, как сидел он на судейском месте, жена его послала ему сказать: не делай ничего Праведнику Тому, потому что я ныне во сне много пострадала за Него. 20 Но первосвященники и старейшины возбудили народ просить Варавву, а Иисуса погубить. 21 Тогда правитель спросил их: кого из двух хотите, чтобы я отпустил вам? Они сказали: Варавву. 22 Пилат говорит им: что же я сделаю Иисусу, называемому Христом? Говорят ему все: да будет распят. 23 Правитель сказал: какое же зло сделал Он? Но они еще сильнее кричали: да будет распят. 24 Пилат, видя, что ничто не помогает, но смятение увеличивается, взял воды и умыл руки перед народом, и сказал: невиновен я в крови Праведника Сего; смотрите вы. 25 И, отвечая, весь народ сказал: кровь Его на нас и на детях наших. 26 Тогда отпустил им Варавву, а Иисуса, бив, предал на распятие", снимающее вину с иудеев, означает, что самозваные наместники ставят себя гораздо выше своего патрона.
      1. shpuntik
        shpuntik 1 December 2013 11: 43 New
        +5
        Horn SU Today, 11:22 ↑ New
        removing guilt from the Jews means that self-proclaimed governors put themselves much higher than their patron.

        The conclusion is the opposite of the gospel, don’t you? what Наоборот, народ подстрекаемый вождями говорит: "...кровь Его на нас и на детях наших."
        As for the Vatican, Olga Chetverikova interprets quite well:

    3. shpuntik
      shpuntik 1 December 2013 12: 05 New
      +2
      major071 (3) SU Today, 09:25
      - Remember the fishing club that I organized 2000 years ago?
      He still exists!

      And who can create such a long-term circle? How could such a circle survive in the USSR? How many people took death for Christ? There are so many questions that the atheists of the party school did not dare to enter into an open discussion with theologians. They just made fun of them, and that’s it. No open argument. Why? Yes, it is very simple: atheism is refuted by Theosophy more easily than a nasty or other religion.
      As for the institution of the Papacy, there is a grain of truth here; Orthodox have known it for a long time. No wonder we are called the Orthodox Church.
      Moreover, there are surprising, clear facts: Patriarch Kirill was glued on watches for hours, and the Pope has a whole state - the Vatican, and the Bank of the Vatican with capital of 2 trillion. And Dad is popular with the plebs like no other, everything is in order. yes

      PS
      "Истинно говорю вам: будут прощены сынам человеческим все грехи и хуления, какими бы не хулили; Но кто будет хулить Духа Святого, тому не будет прощения вовек, но подлежит вечному осуждению."Сие сказал Он, потому что говорили; в Нем нечистый Дух. (Евангелие от Марка 3, 28-30)
      1. cumastra1
        cumastra1 1 December 2013 14: 42 New
        +2
        Нельзя забывать, что Ватикан - одно из самых агрессивных государств, постоянно вмешивается во внутренние дела третьих стран. А если уж поговорить о непогрешимых папах.... вспомнить неприлично чем предстаёт это заведение. Аккуратнее надо, осторожнее крайне осмотрительными в отношениях с подобными странами. Как говорил Шарик - "хуже дворников, гаже котов"
  15. Alikovo
    Alikovo 1 December 2013 09: 26 New
    +3
    in addition to negligence, Serdyukov also has an abuse of official authority.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 1 December 2013 12: 16 New
      +3
      Quote: Alikovo
      in addition to negligence, Serdyukov also has an abuse of official authority.

      Still coming. But the probability is high that they will retrain.
  16. Normal
    Normal 1 December 2013 09: 30 New
    15
    Suitcase ... The most amazing thing is that they can’t name the person who signed the permit to establish a “bag” in the very center of the capital. Literally, the elusive Joe ...

    Yes, everyone signed the permit. Absolutely everything on whom it depended.
    This is Red Square! Try to put up a tourist tent there without permission. What’s the tent there? You won’t have time to beat the scrotum, as you will have to answer many uncomfortable questions, and then a chest the size of a house.
    And again, no one knew or permitted anything ... fool
    1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 1 December 2013 10: 25 New
      +3
      Quote: Normal
      And again, no one knew or permitted anything ...

      I’m also waiting for the degenerates who have signed this permission to be shown on the zombie’s sign, but it seems like with the appointment of His Excellency Count Serdyukov, the journalists will sniff in two holes sitting under the table! hi
      1. shpuntik
        shpuntik 1 December 2013 10: 43 New
        +5
        GELEZNII_KAPUT SU Today, 10:25 ↑
        Quote: Normal
        And again, no one knew or permitted anything ...

        I’m also waiting for when they show on the zomboyaschik degenerates who signed this permission

        Fathers, boil good smile , it was a political nail in the coffin of communism, a spit in the soul of its builders, those of course who believed. And those who did not strongly believe ... they were nanocomsomol and nanocommunists.
        By the way, GDP with Dimon did not rise to the Mausoleum. It turns out the occult roots are drawn, here is the video test, who are interested:
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 1 December 2013 10: 48 New
        +6
        а тех кто подписывал разрешение на проведение рок концертов,хоккейных матчей и прочих" плясок на костях"???
        1. shpuntik
          shpuntik 1 December 2013 11: 10 New
          +2
          Andrey Yurievich (2) SU Today, 10: 48 ↑ New
          а тех кто подписывал разрешение на проведение рок концертов,хоккейных матчей и прочих" плясок на костях"???

          There most likely there are no signatures. Loot is entered in boxes from under the shoes, to the city hall, and that’s all. fellow Насчёт "плясок на костях"-Пол Маккартни с Мавзолея вроде бы не пел? Или я чего-то пропустил? what
    2. Genur
      Genur 1 December 2013 14: 24 New
      +1
      The Mayor of Moscow, when he was driving through the Red Square for the last time, simply did NOT notice a small SUITCASE.
      "Валяется под ногами..."
      1. shpuntik
        shpuntik 1 December 2013 23: 00 New
        +2
        Genur BY Today, 14:24 PM ↑
        The Mayor of Moscow, when he was driving through the Red Square for the last time, simply did NOT notice a small SUITCASE.
        "Валяется под ногами..."

        Да они уже в открытую народ троллят: Песков, и свободномыслящая пресса: "Кремль disowned от чемодана на Красной площади". Такие иуды и крест на шею оденут, лишь бы бабло капало.
        Sobyanin is an honest cop, but can get a little over time in this company.
  17. major071
    major071 1 December 2013 09: 35 New
    +6
    andrei332809 (
    Quote: major071
    Hi Andrew!
    hi Volodya! I have a repair, so I'm on my six feet. I don’t have 7, I don’t have 8 ... I waited for 11 (in Moscow for 9).
    пы.сы. может,авторов во Владивосток переселить? тогда встал утром,а "итоги" уже на месте

    I am at work, that's why different bosses distract from the site, they don’t let me read calmly. Repair is a good thing, especially if you do it at the computer! (Joke). And as for the relocation of the authors, one should think, but in the evening and with a beer.
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 1 December 2013 09: 37 New
      +2
      Quote: major071
      I'm at work,

      have a good day and fewer meetings with superiors
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 1 December 2013 10: 00 New
        +3
        Quote: andrei332809
        Quote: major071
        I'm at work,

        have a good day and fewer meetings with superiors
        and does the submariner say that? Yes, the Soviet school is visible
        1. andrei332809
          andrei332809 1 December 2013 10: 04 New
          +4
          Good afternoon, Lyokh! hi
          from superiors in all cases it is better to stay away. a curve that goes around the boss is always shorter than a straight line passing by him
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 1 December 2013 10: 16 New
            +2
            kindsoldier my personal stratigem was unambiguous, the further from Combrig, the more whole laughing And survived
            1. andrei332809
              andrei332809 1 December 2013 10: 18 New
              +2
              Quote: Thunderbolt
              And survived

              soldier drinks
              1. Thunderbolt
                Thunderbolt 1 December 2013 10: 37 New
                +3
                the main thing is to choose the right path, but everything else is not so important
  18. Egoza
    Egoza 1 December 2013 09: 36 New
    +8
    Thanks to the authors for the review! As always ++++!
    Ну, и позвольте немного расширить по многострадальной Украине. Просто уж очень сейчас "напряженка" пошла! Извините, Не знаю, как можно видео вставить, но можно по ссылке посмотреть

    Acceleration of the "Maidan": two-way violence (video)
    The asymmetric reaction of the European community to the dispersal of the Maidan is a manifestation of double standards. “The brutal beating of peaceful students”, “hundreds of beaten”, “crowded hospitals” - such definitions are used by representatives of the diplomatic corps.
    Moreover, ambassadors of Eurostates actually participate in protest rallies, which is a clear violation of diplomatic status. In fact, there was a manifestation of violence on both sides. For some reason, no one talks about militiamen with broken heads. Everyone is furiously indignant about innocently beaten students. We bring to your attention a video where it is recorded how stones and burning logs are thrown at the Berkut fighters. This is the first moment. The second is the age of the “students” detained by the police: Igor Savitsky, born in 1969, lives in Ternopil region, Vladimir Dudok, born in 1961, lives in Lviv, Ugrin Vasily Alekseevich, 43 years, Ternopol region, Ivan Ivanovich Kryachko, 52 of the year, Exactly, Vozny Andrey Igorevich, 43 of the year, city of Lviv. And so on. Interesting "students" spent the night on the "Euromaidan". Most of them are newcomers.

    Why is none of the European theologians talking about the responsibility of the opposition leaders who called on people to go to the barricades, and at that time they themselves were not clear where? Only Arseniy Yatsenyuk ran alone in the regional departments, freeing up great-old “students” of pre-retirement age. Opposition politicians themselves have included a "regime of violence." How many times did both sides use tear gas? Not once, not two. Both under the Cabinet and on the European Square. Is the result not logical? See for yourself, draw conclusions.
    http://www.versii.com/news/292296/
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 1 December 2013 09: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: Egoza
      Acceleration of the "Maidan"

      there, they say, and psheks fell under the distribution? What (censorship) are they protesting in Kiev? no Warsaw?
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 1 December 2013 11: 04 New
        +4
        Quote: andrei332809
        there, they say, and psheks fell under the distribution?

        Были! И "попали"! Посол Польши уже выразил свое "фе"! Что делают? - Поддерживают евроинтеграторов. Только вот все разборки шли где-то с часу ночи и дальше! Интересные у нас польские туристы - по ночам на митинги ходят!!! am
        1. revnagan
          revnagan 1 December 2013 12: 37 New
          +4
          Quote: Egoza
          We have interesting Polish tourists - they go to rallies at night !!!

          Вообще ситуация интересная-по центральным каналам новости как под кальку-показывают только майданы за ЭС и практически только Зап.Украину.Всё.Как будто нет противников,нет Крыма,Восточной Украины и выступлений против асоциации с ЭС.Точно такая же ситуация была на выборах в 2004 году,когда незаконно протягивали в презы Юща.Дичайшее давление на власти видно "невооружённым так сказать ,глазом".Прессинг из-за кордона сильнейший.Хватит ли прочности у власти выдержать такой прессинг,не ссыкануть и не включить заднюю скорость?Ой, чётто сильно сомневаюсь.Вчера уже ментовское руководство и премьер с презом начали вилять хвостом.Дескать,приказа на разгон не было,виновных (читай милиционеров)найдём и накажем...В то время,когда надо дожимать ситуацию.Так что дальнейший ход событий при наших трусливых и продажных властях прогнозировать трудно.Хотя чего бы не выступить и не заявить-мы,дескать только воспользовались опытом развитых демократических государств.И вдохновились этим самым опытом.Например,разгоном акции "Оккупируй Уолл-Стрит".Но нет-сплошное жевание соплей.
      2. morpex
        morpex 1 December 2013 23: 02 New
        0
        Quote: andrei332809
        Quote: Egoza
        Acceleration of the "Maidan"

        there, they say, and psheks fell under the distribution? What (censorship) are they protesting in Kiev? no Warsaw?


        In such a country! Don’t get caught! am
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 1 December 2013 11: 14 New
      +6
      Quote: Egoza
      Acceleration of Maidan: Bilateral Violence

      Quote: Yeugoza
      Is the result not logical? See for yourself, draw conclusions.

      Good morning, Fidget!
      And the conclusions are simple.
      Both the president and the prime minister are not able to keep abreast of what is happening.
      But the worst thing is that both of them DO NOT WANT to do this. As a result, in Ukraine, well, almost everything is left to chance. Authority, legitimate, only watches as svidomye seize the initiative.
      Разгон ЕвроМайдана показал, что власть, вроде бы есть. Но Азар на пару с Янеком тут же открестились от происшедшего. А дальше с Украиной будет то, что случилось с СССР, когда "меченый" открестился от событий в Баку и Тбилиси.
      And further.
      Если хозяин бьёт сапогом своего пса, за то что тот защищает дом, в следующий раз этот дои "обнесут", а хозяина отправят или в больничку, или на погост. Т.е., если командование МВД будет показательно наказано, то защищать правительство будет некому.
    3. askort154
      askort154 1 December 2013 11: 33 New
      +4
      Fidget .... See for yourself, draw conclusions.

      Смотрел вчера по ТВ Фуршет после официальной встречи в Литве.Понравился момент,когда две "крутые" бабёнки, Меркель и (председатель литовского парламента,её фамилия мне не интересно запоминать) соблазняли Януковича залезть к их европейскую пастель.Но больше всего понравилась Меркель.Она после каждого изрекания "чего-то", делала глоток из своего бокала.У остальных её собеседников бокалов не было, что меня озадачило и навело на мысль - Меркель стала квасить,после того, как
      узнала, что её телефонный "интим" слушают друзья американцы.Вспомнил,как ей обслуга
      poured a glass of beer by the scruff of the neck, apparently it was a sign. I’m afraid for her, the woman will drink.
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      2. pensioner
        pensioner 1 December 2013 17: 46 New
        0
        Quote: askort154
        I’m afraid for her, the woman will drink.

        Yes, not scary! Let thumps! Putin needs not to miss a moment, that would be ... Well ... to use in general for his own purposes it is necessary to keep up ... repeat
    4. Apollo
      Apollo 1 December 2013 12: 42 New
      +8
      Quote: Egoza
      Ну, и позвольте немного расширить по многострадальной Украине. Просто уж очень сейчас "напряженка" пошла!



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      4. Borz
        Borz 1 December 2013 14: 30 New
        +5
        Ибо нефиг топтаться и гадить на площадях.Ещё после оранжевого майдана 2004 г. киевляне сильно возмущались тем,что все дворы,подворотни и незапертые подъезды домов вокруг майдана были загажены "совестью нации",как называют сегодня тех студентов,которые отрабатывают зимнюю сессию на майдане.А по ТВ показали сюжетец про киевлянку,которая,несмотря на больного ребёнка,по несколько раз в день бегала на майдан,носила еду митингующим.И говорились об этом с таким умилением!И не разорвать эту овцу пополам,чтоб вспомнила,что она МАТЬ в первую очередь!
    5. Borz
      Borz 1 December 2013 14: 15 New
      11
      Аккурат вчера вечером мне позвонил мой старый знакомый из Польши(работали вместе когда-то,с тех пор поддерживаем отношения).Первый его вопрос,"что у вас там происходит,зачем по всей стране людей избивают за то,что они хотят быть в ЕС?"На что я ему ответил,что далеко не по всей стране,а только в Киеве,и совсем уж не все хотят быть в ЕС,а только те,кого до зубовного скрежета доводит мысль о сближении Украины с Россией.А получить дубинкой по сусалу за то,что вместо учёбы и работы они за толику малую трясут англоязычными лозунгами и барабанят в жестяные вёдра в центре столицы на потеху "пересичным громадянам",так это нормальная цена за мечты о приобщении к "общеевропейским ценностям".Мне кажется,мой знакомый был неприятно удивлён моим ответом.Не того он от меня ждал.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 1 December 2013 17: 43 New
        +6
        Quote: Borz
        It seems to me that my friend was unpleasantly surprised by my answer. Not that he expected from me.

        А разве кто-то сомневался в том КАК ТАМ ПОДАЮТ материал о происходящем в Киеве? Будьте уверены, что в каждом комментарии звучит слова "Москва", "угроза", "несчастные украинцы" и т.п.
        1. Borz
          Borz 2 December 2013 00: 38 New
          +4
          Так оно и было.Помню,как-то раз этот же поляк стал рассказывать страшилки,которыми пестрила польская "независимая"пресса об операции по восстановлению конституционного порядка(намеренно избегаю слова "война")в Чечне.О ВС России он говорил не иначе,как "агрессоры и оккупанты".Я просто дал ему посмотреть несколько документальных фильмов о рабстве,пленных солдатах,операциях спецназа,подрывах колонн,террактах и т.д. Он так проникся,что обматерил всю прессу,правительство и иже с ними за систематическое враньё.Но вот опять с ним что-то произошло.Видимо,мой польский друг снова нуждается в промывании мозга.Есть повод для встречи drinks
  19. Egoza
    Egoza 1 December 2013 09: 36 New
    +3
    In Kiev, monks ask not to glue posters on the walls of the Mikhailovsky Monastery The servants of the St. Michael's Golden-Domed Monastery appeal for the decent behavior of activists who found shelter near the cathedral after the dispersal of Euromaidan. Protesters expressed concern that priests are asking them to leave the shrine. At the same time, one of the monks of the Mikhailovsky monastery said that no one expelled the protesters, but they are urged not to violate the shrine’s internal routine, not to drink alcohol, not to smoke, not to use swearing and not to block the entrance to the monastery, blocking the gates, and also do not stick posters on the walls of the monastery.

    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-132447.html
    Klitschko asks European leaders to punish Yanukovych Лидер партии "УДАР" Виталий Кличко обращается к руководителям государств и правительств стран-членов ЕС, США и других демократических стран за срочной оценкой событиям в Украине и рассмотрением возможности применения персональных санкций по отношению к президенту Украины Виктору Януковичу и представителям его режима, сообщает пресс-служба партии "УДАР".
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-132441.html
    On Mikhailovskaya Square in Kiev, where the rally is taking place, ambassadors of European countries appeared.
    According to UNIAN, in particular, ambassadors of Poland, Canada and the Baltic countries approached the protesters.
    The ambassadors talked with the protesters and the press, but refused to go on an impromptu scene near the monument to Princess Olga, explaining that as ambassadors they cannot make any statements on their behalf during political meetings.
    2000 Press Bureau
    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Poland called on a conversation on Sunday, December 1, the ambassador of Ukraine to explain in connection with the latest events in Kiev.
    This was stated by the press secretary of the Polish Foreign Ministry, Marchin Wojciechowski, UNIAN reports.
    “Tomorrow the Ukrainian ambassador is invited to the Foreign Ministry to provide explanations in connection with the latest events in Kiev,” he said.
    The spokeswoman emphasized that Poland condemns not only the beating of Polish citizens that took place on Saturday night, but in general the use of force against participants in a peaceful protest in Kiev.
    Recall, the Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs condemned the use of force against the participants of the Euromaidan.
    http://news2000.com.ua/news/sobytija/v-ukraine/240274
    1. Valery Neonov
      Valery Neonov 1 December 2013 10: 56 New
      +5
      Oh, I read somewhere that Klitschko is compared to Kasparov ... umm-klitschko-Kasparov; before politics, they work in different parts (bodies), ... in politics, they sold out ... both ..

      Two are sitting:
      - Count up - yesterday with Kasparov in a restaurant I was sitting at one table!
      - Well?
      - Well, count it, there are tablecloths in the box - so he gave me salt for 45 minutes ...

      The Klitschko brothers did meet with the world champion! They beat Kasparov. hi
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 1 December 2013 11: 17 New
      +6
      Quote: Egoza
      On Mikhailovskaya Square in Kiev, where the rally is taking place, ambassadors of European countries appeared.

      Quote: Egoza
      The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Poland called on a conversation on Sunday, December 1, the ambassador of Ukraine to explain in connection with the latest events in Kiev.

      Well, everything is clear here.
      Either Yanek will send all the advisers to the address known to all, or he will use the full tolerant scheme.
    3. 10kAzAk01
      10kAzAk01 1 December 2013 11: 17 New
      +7
      The spokeswoman emphasized that Poland condemns not only the beating of POLISH citizens, which took place on Saturday night, but in general the use of force against participants in a peaceful protest in Kiev.

      HERE THEY DO THERE IN GENERAL DO?
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 1 December 2013 12: 22 New
        +4
        Quote: 10kAzAk01
        HERE THEY DO THERE IN GENERAL DO?

        WALKED! WITH A DEMOCRATIC DECLINE! SO FRIENDLY FRIENDS-FRIENDS SEEKED! (The night is in the yard) And HERE - EAGLE !!!! belay
      2. Borz
        Borz 1 December 2013 14: 37 New
        +5
        We walked. They saw beautiful houses. And some strange people stand between the houses, they do it *. They did not know what was impossible with us. They, for example, have everything.
  20. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 1 December 2013 09: 41 New
    +9
    hi Investigators counted ...-

    Fraud is a good deal faced with bad law. wink
    A large official who shot down two people at a pedestrian crossing asks the judge:
    - What are the consequences now?
    - Well, to the one who struck the head-on with his head, five years - for trying an act of terrorism against an official, and to the one who flew off into the bushes, all eight are possible: also an attempt to escape from the crime scene ...
  21. qwert1707
    qwert1707 1 December 2013 09: 44 New
    +4
    In our country for money and not such miracles happen ... a suitcase on the Red Square ..... is that .... so little bellied things ...
    If you calculate how much dough from the budget disappears ... it is not known where ... then the eyes are rounded off, to the size of a watermelon .... and also no one knows anything ....
    You won’t surprise me nowadays
    PS It’s good that at least there’s not an advertisement for an intimate store in the form of green x .... I didn’t put it on the floor
    1. Dimy4
      Dimy4 1 December 2013 11: 14 New
      +3
      Позапрошлый год у стен "Е" корпуса Костромского Технологического университета стоял lol , though molded from snow, but with baaalshem diligence.
  22. Egoza
    Egoza 1 December 2013 09: 49 New
    0
    Ex-Prime Minister of Ukraine, leader of the Fatherland Party Yulia Tymoshenko urges Ukrainians to come to the People’s Chamber on December 1.
    This is stated in her letter, the text of which at a briefing in Kiev was read by the daughter of ex-prime minister Yevgeny Tymoshenko, reports Glavkom.
    In her appeal, Tymoshenko urged people not to leave the square until the current regime was overthrown peacefully. According to her, if today the authorities’s actions in relation to the protesters are ignored, then "we are not standing for freedom."
    “Let's skip time - after it will be too late. Evil will triumph. I appeal to all Ukrainians to oppose the dictatorship and violence of Yanukovych. I urge you all the people to leave on December 1 at 12 hours to Shevchenko’s park ... The main thing is not to disperse from the Maidan until the regime is overthrown peacefully, ”the statement says.
    2000 Press Bureau
    xxxxx
    Хорошо призывать, сидя (лежа) в трехкомнатной палате! И уж "свергать мирным путем" - вообще "шедевр"!
    Former Interior Minister Yuriy Lutsenko calls on everyone to come on Sunday to a rally in Taras Shevchenko’s park.
    “We woke up in Belarus. On the Independence Maidan, a tree is being built on blood. Tomorrow at 12: 00 near the Shevchenko Monument! We must prove that we are Ukraine, not Belarus, ”Lutsenko Glavkom quotes.
    Lutsenko added that he personally was during the first attack at 1 at one in the morning, when they tried to evacuate cars with equipment. “My glasses were broken there, my son was hit a little on the head. Therefore, unfortunately, at the time of the main assault I was not there. But as a father, I urge all Kievites to go out and protect their children. We protect both children and the country. Now everything depends only on Kiev, ”he said.
    The politician also said that as of 12: 00 there is no Berkut near Mikhailovskaya Square, so all the Euromaidanites left the territory of St. Michael's Cathedral. “Here, spontaneous rallies are rolled from the very premises of the cathedral to the monument to Olga and so on throughout the square,” he added.
    2000 Press Bureau
    XXXX
    Ох как жаль, что у нас не Беларусь! Ну а "Югик" как всегда...во время основного штурма не был, но всех призывает! Поп Гапон отдыхает!
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 1 December 2013 11: 29 New
      +5
      Quote: Egoza
      Ох как жаль, что у нас не Беларусь! Ну а "Югик" как всегда...во время основного штурма не был, но всех призывает! Поп Гапон отдыхает!

      Судя по телодвижениям прогрессивных дярьмократов, намечается "setup" президента и его команды. В ЕС уже подсчитали - дешевле отдать 10-20 млн евро на ЕвроМайдан, чем идти навстречу финансовым пожеланиям Украины. Тем более, что требуемые 150-200 млрд евро брать негде (Греция ближе к Евротелу, но и той бабки цедят как из своего кармана).
      Output.
      Или сторонники действующей власти ТАК ЖЕ ВЫЙДУТ на майданы, что б сохранить статус-кво Янека и Ко, что б без особых проблем дожить до выьоров 2015-го, либо выбора президента Украины буду досрочными, и рождество 2014-го Украина встретит с новым президентом. И нетрудно догадаться, какую фамилию будут "облизывать" тамошние СМИ.
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  23. Egoza
    Egoza 1 December 2013 09: 49 New
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    From the network ....
    KMK 18 minutes ago ip: 195.211.136. ***
    Goodbye Galicia! Your gaze is unbearable to me - //
    brown-curved, with a Nazi ceiling. //
    Having stuffed a squabbled mouth with a drab saliva //,
    Vlicha herself is one of her painful shame. //
    You licked Hitler’s boots, //
    and still licking, frowning kral. //
    Твой злобный соловей - наследник "Нахтигаля". //
    Carry cast iron debts to the Last Judgment. //
    Servant of the SS, live, but not with me - //
    glorify the tiara, and in Latin work. //
    Arrogant sister, I'm fed up with your care. //
    Goodbye Galicia, be ham to Rome! //
    God knows: what is the value of sin //
    and - who wanted love, and who sought blood. //
    I will take my golden Pochaev with me, //
    and you - go down! Goodbye Galicia!
    Xxx
    Victor 15 minutes ago ip: 31.6.120. ***
    Glory to Viktor Yanukovych! HOORAY ! DISCOVER THIS CHABBAT! CALLING FOR A POWERFUL RIPPING OF THE ACTING AUTHORITIES - HARDLY PUSH! IN PRISON! WATERWATERS! WHERE DO WE RECORD IN BERKUT? I WILL GO FOR A LEGAL ORDER FOR FREE!
    Xxxxx
    Victor-odessit 52 minutes ago ip: 89.209.87. ***
    This fat-fed expert, who has fed a hat for American grants, openly admits that Geyromaydan is the brainchild of our Western well-wishing neocolonialists. We saw frames of a scuffle with a golden eagle. Masked boys brazenly climbed cops with gas sprays. Hedgehog understand the idea - a provocation is arranged, and then according to the Libyan scenario. Up to democratic bombing, as in Kosovo.
    xxx
    Signs 59 minutes ago ip: 195.69.87. ***
    The dispersal of this bylodnik at least returned the respect of adequate people to this power. And the split of this lack of country is not a tragedy, but a regularity! How long will this half-corpse agonize?
    1. shpuntik
      shpuntik 1 December 2013 11: 01 New
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      Marshal
      Fidget SU Today, 09:49
      Signs 59 minutes ago ip: 195.69.87. ***
      The dispersal of this bydlitnik at least returned the respect of adequate people to this power.

      Elena, come to us, to Russia? We will make the Russian empire within the borders of the 1900 of the year, and this is the end. How do you like the plan?
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 1 December 2013 11: 08 New
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        Quote: shpuntik
        Elena, come to us, to Russia? We will make the Russian empire within the borders of the 1900 of the year, and this is the end. How do you like the plan?

        Лично я - "ЗА" двумя руками! Только вот тогда с Европы еще компенсацию стрясти надо будет, за все то, что было построено на ЗУ за годы СССР!
        1. shpuntik
          shpuntik 1 December 2013 11: 30 New
          +2
          Marshal
          Fidget SU Today, 11:08 ↑ New
          Only then will it be necessary to shake off compensation from Europe for everything that was built on the memory during the years of the USSR!

          We shake necessarily, especially from Poland, it is only necessary to unite. In Ukraine, how many percent for the Customs Union with Russia, in your estimation?
          1. alone
            alone 1 December 2013 12: 07 New
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            Divorced on the site of all kinds of dreamers! Is it really not clear that the USSR was destroyed for this purpose, so that later it would be so easily resuscitated.
            1. shpuntik
              shpuntik 1 December 2013 12: 30 New
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              lonely (1) AZ Today, 12:07 ↑ New
              Divorced on the site of all kinds of dreamers! Is it really not clear that the USSR was destroyed for this purpose, so that later it would be so easily resuscitated.

              And who said it would be easy? The main thing to start. yes Omar Khayyam, I wonder, did he write anything about the Motherland? Well, Hungarian tinned quite well:
              Sandor Petofi (Hungary)
              I am yours, body and soul,
              The country is native.
              Who to love but you!
              I love you!
              My soul is a high temple!
              But even the soul
              To you, fatherland, I will give
              And I’ll destroy the temple.
              Let out the ruins of my chest
              The lightning flies:
              "God grant my motherland
              Blessing! ”

              PS And what do I consider the homeland?
              http://www.s-kh.ru/forum/47-223-1
              This:
              1. alone
                alone 1 December 2013 12: 35 New
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                Quote: shpuntik
                PS And what do I consider the homeland? This:


                Well, yes, consider one thing, but reality is different! if tomorrow some citizen of Mongolia comes to the UN, unfolds a map from the time of Genghis Khan and Batu, what will you tell him specifically?
                The train left. And this country, which Judas destroyed on the map. Instead of cherishing dreams of rebuilding the empire, it’s better to raise what’s left. And those who want to be with you will be asked back !!
                1. shpuntik
                  shpuntik 1 December 2013 22: 46 New
                  +2
                  AvatarMarshal Lonely (1) AZ Today, 12:35 PM ↑
                  Well, yes, consider one thing, but reality is different!

                  We will slowly change it, this very reality.
                  if tomorrow some citizen of Mongolia comes to the UN, unfolds a map from the time of Genghis Khan and Batu, what will you tell him specifically?
                  Will not come, there is no such card.
                  Yes, and in general, how did you compare the Slavs with the Tatar-Mongols? Not ashamed?
                  1) With all the expansion of Russians, about 160 nationalities of Russia live and not one has disappeared. Unlike the SHA with its Indians (from some, only the Cherokee jeep recalls), not the example of the Spanish Empire with its Mayans and Aztecs.
                  2) And who defended Europu from Genghis Khan and Batu if not Russians?
                  Ясак платили басурманам-это было. А вот насчёт: "топтали" 300 лет - это наговор. Было немало селений, где выходили все жители на бой, даже женщины и дети.
                  better pick up what is left. and those who want to be with you will be asked to go back !!

                  Russians know what to do. Those traitors who ask back when it will be good, do they need Russia?
                  A friend in need is a friend indeed.
                  The Georgian people asked for help from the Russian Tsar when they were cut out, where are they now?
              2. 11111mail.ru
                11111mail.ru 1 December 2013 13: 23 New
                +2
                Quote: shpuntik
                Sandor Petofi (Hungary)
                I am yours, body and soul,
                The country is native.

                Horvath it was. Alexander Petrovich. (Petrovich), emphasis on the first syllable.
                1. shpuntik
                  shpuntik 1 December 2013 22: 23 New
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                  11111mail.ru RU Today, 13:23 ↑ New
                  Horvath it was. Alexander Petrovich.

                  hi Did not know. A Slav in general (according to Wiki-Serb father, Slovenian mother), kindred spirit. Live a century, learn a century, you die a fool tszt.
                  Думал сначала, что это Саади или Омар Хайям написал, взял цитату по памяти в гугл, вышел венгр Шандор. Память дырявая становится. Вообще, цензурированное стихотворение из "пионерского далёко", было здесь:
                  1. 11111mail.ru
                    11111mail.ru 2 December 2013 16: 43 New
                    +1
                    Quote: shpuntik
                    A Slav in general (according to Wiki-Serb father, Slovenian mother), kindred spirit.

                    Спасибо за самокритику (ВАМ- уважаю, желающих и умеющих ставить вопросы и отвечать на них. ОДНАКО: не верьте всему, что в "Вики.." написано. Был бы серб, мадьяры своим бы никогда не признали, пусть даже бы по-современному и печень и почки и сердце положил на алтарь венгерской революции! А вот католик это "свой". Много таких тогда вероисповедание=национальность на другую идею меняли... Если я не прав, то попеняйте, зла держать не буду. Просто еще при К.У Черненко прочел советскую ещё книжку и усомнился.
          2. Egoza
            Egoza 1 December 2013 12: 18 New
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            Quote: shpuntik
            how much interest do you have for the Customs Union with Russia?

            Slightly higher than indicated below. Keep in mind that there is intimidation and prohibitions all the time ... but
            Even sociologists grant grants admit: a greater number of Ukrainians prefer the Customs Union to the European Union
            To the question: “If a referendum were to be held next Sunday on whether Ukraine should enter the European Union or the Customs Union, what would you do?” 38% of those polled said they would vote for joining the Customs Union, 37,8% would prefer joining the European Union (where no one calls Ukraine), 7,8% would not take part in the referendum, where one of the questions is not related to reality, and 16,5% found it difficult to answer such questions.
            In the case of a referendum solely on the entry of Ukraine into the Customs Union, more Ukrainians are ready to vote “for” (41%) than the “against” (32%). However, in the case of a referendum only on Ukraine’s accession to the European Union, more Ukrainian people are ready to vote “for” the accession (40%) than “against” this (35%).
            In addition, people with life experience who are able to compare the quality of life in union with fraternal republics with those after the declaration of independence of Ukraine are more likely to vote for joining precisely the Customs Union. At the same time, accession to the European Union is preferred by young people.
            The civilizational gap between the regions of Ukraine also continues to be deep. For joining the Customs Union of Ukraine almost 65% stands in the east of Ukraine, while 16% in the West. For joining the EU in the East 18,4%, while in the West - 66,4%.
            http://t-34-111.livejournal.com/163015.html
            Well and more ...
            Ternopol district administrative court forbade the city committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine to hold a rally in support of the Customs Union on Theater Square in Ternopol
            “These actions and the rally in support of Ukraine’s entry into the Customs Union are contradictory in content, and the views of their organizers are fundamentally different,” “this can lead to a violation of the rights and legitimate interests of citizens, physical conflicts and negative consequences in general,” they explain lawsuit representatives of the city hall.
            The first secretary of the Communist Party city committee in Ternopil, Veniamin Proshkin, does not understand why the City Council responded to a request from the Communists for the rally.
            “We decided to come to the rally in an organized manner, and therefore submitted an application. Over forty days, 14 of thousands of signatures were collected to support the signing of an agreement with the Customs Union. Maybe all 14 of thousands of supporters would not have come to the square. But we have many supporters. There are people who are ready to come. But the city council did not refuse us. From the city hall in general no answer to our application has been received. Instead, we immediately received a lawsuit, ”he said in a comment to Gazeta.ua.

            Read more at http://news.eizvestia.com/news_politics/full/sud-zapretil-kommunistam-mitingovat
            -za-tamozhennyj-soyuz
            XXXX
            В начале ноября коммунисты собрали 3,5 миллиона подписей "ЗА" и продолжают собирать.
            1. alone
              alone 1 December 2013 12: 25 New
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              it’s about 50 to 50! the opinion of the people was divided. and in this case the party that really proves the benefit of this or that union will win! The solution of this problem is a popular referendum, I don’t see another way!
            2. shpuntik
              shpuntik 1 December 2013 21: 36 New
              +2
              Marshal
              Fidget SU Today, 12:18 ↑
              Even sociologists grant grants admit: a greater number of Ukrainians prefer the Customs Union to the European Union

              Elena, thanks for the analytics, but I think it’s worth considering the correction for the wind (we have the same, different levads smile ) If according to the polls there was an advantage over the Euro, then it would have been a long time ago, not only grant-eaters, but also the elite, screamed a good obscenity, and would have called a referendum very quickly. But, since the polls have a significantly greater advantage, the results are approximately 50/50, as Omar Khayyam said. There is still such a moment: eastern Ukraine is three times more in population than Galicia, well, more advanced Kievans, young people - 18-20%, and that’s it. It is active. Doubters - 10-15%. The remaining 65-70% are those who see themselves with Russia. This is my view of the situation, and far from unfounded: I have relatives in Volyn, friends in the Crimea.
              Therefore, a referendum would have long been if it led to the European Union.
        2. morpex
          morpex 1 December 2013 14: 04 New
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          Quote: Egoza
          Лично я - "ЗА" двумя руками!


          in as it should ...
          1. shpuntik
            shpuntik 1 December 2013 22: 02 New
            +1
            morpex (1) SU Today, 14:04 ↑
            in as it should ...

            Boyar Putyata. The cartoon has become political.
  24. Egoza
    Egoza 1 December 2013 09: 54 New
    +3
    Our prime Azarov was indignant ....
    Президент Янукович возмутился..."Я осуждаю действия, которые привели к силовому противостоянию и страданиям людей. Несколько дней назад я перед всей страной заявил о поддержке гражданских ненасильственных акций. Те, кто не услышали слова Конституции и Президента и своими решениями и действиями спровоцировали конфликт на Майдане, – будут наказаны"
    xxxxx
    Воспринимайте как хотите фразу о "решениях и действиях". Как направленную в адрес ОМОН, так и в адрес "оппы".
    "Продвинутые" воспримут в первом варианте. Потому как ВФ всегда "прогибается под... запад". Значит ментов накажут, а оппа будет в шоколаде.... логично? - логично...
    Tomorrow is like a peak day in fact. Oppa, who was given the go-ahead by their Western curators, will try to exacerbate the situation. By all available forces and means. Because then it will be too late. Just tomorrow. Or the night of Saturday to Sunday.

    This is a standard tactic. And yet, it’s not bitter, but they desperately need a corpse, whatever. This is their trump card as they believe. So the ambitions of the oppa and the go-ahead from behind the hill may cost someone their lives. The foreign gang was really offended by the fact that the paper was not signed in the form in which they really needed it. In the other, it’s already not so important, sort of like a gas contract, the RF needed it exactly the way it was waved from Julia’s kick, the other could not be signed at all.
    So the psycho-type of maidatsuna is an aggressive macaque that stepped on the tail. And she is from anger and pain (mainly from anger, because the pain there is a needle injection), she is ready to crush and break everything without meaning and purpose, only for the sake of satisfying her aggressive instinct, longing for a way out.
    Similarly, some men of a certain warehouse, who, after drinking, begin to look for a reason to wave their fists. Any.
  25. major071
    major071 1 December 2013 09: 55 New
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    [quote] гEgoza
    Кличко просит европейских лидеров наказать Януковича Лидер партии "УДАР" Виталий Кличко обращается к руководителям государств и правительств стран-членов ЕС, США и других демократических стран за срочной оценкой событиям в Украине и рассмотрением возможности применения персональных санкций по отношению к президенту Украины Виктору Януковичу и представителям его режима, сообщает пресс-служба партии "УДАР".
    / Quote]
    Offended the boy, ran smearing snot to adult uncles and aunts to complain. A shame!
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 1 December 2013 10: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: major071
      the possibility of applying personal sanctions against President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych and representatives of his regime

      for this, in a white hut, they seem to have collected 100000 signatures. so there is another petition, asking to send NATO troops to Ukraine to overthrow the anti-people regime. as of yesterday there was one signature under this petition. I don’t know for today request
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 1 December 2013 10: 21 New
        +4
        Quote: andrei332809
        for this, in a white hut, they seem to have collected 100000 signatures. so there is another petition, asking to send NATO troops to Ukraine to overthrow the anti-people regime. as of yesterday there was one signature under this petition. I don’t know for today

        The largest number of votes so far has been raised by the petition calling on the US administration to take steps to change the current government in Ukraine peacefully. At the moment, she has gained more than 35 thousand signatures.
        Two petitions offer a more radical version of the intervention - US military intervention. At the moment, each petition has gained more than 2 thousand votes
        Source: RIA News.
        xxxxx
        Какая активная у них "общественность!" И тут же по 24 каналу в новостях сообщают, что "люди на майдане, сомневаются, что это была НАША милиция. "Это Russian riot police переодели в форму нашего БЕРКУТА потому они так и наших митингующих пинали!" МЕРЗОСТЬ!!!!
        For some reason, from the protesters, like in the USA, no one will remember that September 30 of 2010 of the year in Germany. Then more than 400 people were injured in clashes with police in Stuttgart, and among the victims were 50 students. All this happened during the dispersal of the protest against the reconstruction of the local station (which residents consider to be historical architectural value). German police used tear gas and water guns.
        11 DECEMBER 2011: Boston police forcefully break up Occupy Wall Street! The tent city was demolished, while 47 of its inhabitants were arrested. As the Associated Press agency noted, in Boston, the tent camp has stood for too long, because "Massachusetts is considered one of the most liberal-minded in the United States." But the Massachusetts liberals finally came to the conclusion that democratic rights would not suffer from the forceful dispersal of an unauthorized protest rally.
        2012 год США акция "Захвати Уолл-Стрит", полиция разогнала митингующих и арестовала 2 сотни активистов, 26 мая 2013 г разгон в Париже противников однополых браков....
        WANTED AS IN EUROPE - GET !!!!
        1. andrei332809
          andrei332809 1 December 2013 10: 25 New
          +3
          Quote: Egoza
          люди на майдане, сомневаются, что это была НАША милиция. "Это русский ОМОН переодели в форму нашего БЕРКУТА потому они так и наших митингующих пинали!"

          there masochists gathered or what? they did not see the Russian riot police
        2. 222222
          222222 1 December 2013 12: 38 New
          +4
          Fidget SU Today, 10:21 ↑
          @Почему-то из митингующих, как и в США, никто не вспомнит, что 30 сентября 2010 года в Германии.."
          ....там" Демократия " пинала , а здесь пинали " Демократию",,,
      2. major071
        major071 1 December 2013 10: 26 New
        +7
        there was one signature under this petition

        Really Obamkin? laughing
      3. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 1 December 2013 10: 36 New
        +2
        Quote: andrei332809
        Quote: major071
        the possibility of applying personal sanctions against President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych and representatives of his regime

        for this, in a white hut, they seem to have collected 100000 signatures. so there is another petition, asking to send NATO troops to Ukraine to overthrow the anti-people regime. as of yesterday there was one signature under this petition. I don’t know for today request

        Let them try to enter, did the Pentagon have completely tore off the tower ?! !!
      4. morpex
        morpex 1 December 2013 14: 29 New
        +2
        Quote: andrei332809
        for this, in a white hut, they seem to have collected 100000 signatures.

        So to whom - a fire, and to whom - to warm up.
        In general, Yanukovych is a puppet in the hands of global players. The EU itself provoked the president’s refusal to sign the agreement. Part of the blood of the victims at the hands of the golden eagle lies on their hands. The other part is in the hands of the opposition, who used the guys from the Maidan as rams to slaughter on the sacrificial altar of their career. Who did nothing to hide them in their homes before the authorities use their last resource - power!
        It is possible that Ukraine has already been divided into spheres of influence. They already know which piece to get to. Because there are too many coincidences in the chain of events indicating this. And we are all just at the dance floor of someone's multi-way.
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  27. Pushkar
    Pushkar 1 December 2013 09: 57 New
    +1
    Serdyukov's statute of limitations for negligence is over. Rejoice, people, justice has triumphed.
  28. APASUS
    APASUS 1 December 2013 10: 02 New
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    “The United States media seem to be trying to support the country's leadership for patriotic reasons, which, to put it mildly, has lost face in resolving the Syrian issue. And now they are involved in the information confrontation with Russia. Such tricks, becoming public knowledge and attention of the public, including the world, do not do credit to the American press, which seems to be considered a reference from the point of view of democracy and freedom of speech. "

    And from what motives did our Foreign Ministry keep silent? Or Churkin is not an official representative of Russia and his words can be amended. Here, by the way, is an element of psychological warfare in the media, and there is no reaction from Russia at all. We are setting the United States on the scruff of the neck and letting ourselves be encouraged !!
  29. major071
    major071 1 December 2013 10: 03 New
    +4
    Енсpensioner (5)
    Quote: major071
    - Remember the fishing club that I organized 2000 years ago?
    He still exists!
    Here you go! And you still haven't signed up for it! Good morning!

    Good morning! Well, I already voiced my preferences! So when we find out about the mushroom picker club, organized at least 1500 years ago, I will definitely sign up! By the way, when was in Kovdor? Last year, from June to November, I worked there on a business trip.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 1 December 2013 20: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: major071
      By the way, when was in Kovdor?

      Unfortunately for a very long time ... Last time in 91g. in the summer. At a local mining and processing enterprise on a business trip. They introduced their devices. The deepest quarry in Europe was at that time. Depth greater than 1km ..
    2. pensioner
      pensioner 1 December 2013 21: 18 New
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      Quote: major071
      from June to November there he worked on a business trip.

      Horseradish - all business trip! Almost half a year ... what
    3. pensioner
      pensioner 1 December 2013 22: 05 New
      +1
      Quote: major071
      So when we find out about the mushroom picker club, organized at least 1500 years ago, I will definitely sign up!

      The use of sacred mushrooms by Mayan Indians who lived in mountainous areas is evidenced by written documents from pre-Konkistador history. In those days, the Mayans used clay and stone mushrooms in sacred ceremonies, accompanied by the ritual use of hallucinogenic mushrooms. A whole gallery of images of mushrooms and related characters dating back to the XNUMXst millennium BC. e., captured on the right bank of the Pegtymel River in Chukotka. An impressive number of images dedicated to fly agaric - more than three dozen. Among them are the amanita spirits, shamans, paintings of visions ...You have a good circle there, mushroom pickers ...
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  31. Egoza
    Egoza 1 December 2013 10: 03 New
    +3
    From the network ...
    UA an hour ago ip: 31.223.230. ***
    Надо начинать разборки с тех, кто организовал этот бидлам (евромайдан), они прекрасно понимали чем все это может закончится, скорее всего это была продуманная и хорошо спланированная акция, и люди на это "повелись".
    Victor-odessit 42 minutes ago ip: 89.209.87. ***
    And you thought that they themselves made the flags with the Geyrosimvolika right on the Maidan? Everything was prepared in advance. Right up to the speeches of the hitman, who, a month ago, had called for the resignation and impeachment of Yanukovych, if he did not sign Atsosiaktsiya.
    Ivan Ivanov an hour ago ip: 212.87.178. ***
    Hello experts, tell us the time, B-P-E-M-I, when this split will be, how much longer do we have to endure this quick swindle throughout the country ??? !!!
    54 minutes ago ip: 178.213.104.
    ***
    and most importantly the love of the Maidan was imbued with the whole country? why should someone love Europe? especially the one who was left without work through her fault? for me, that Yushchenko, that Lutsenko, that Yanukovych, that Tymoshenko are all the same representatives of the occupying Ukrainian authorities, they directly issue orders to them, soon the standards came out how much to destroy in what area, like Hitler in 1943.
    leonid.kulichenko.5 29 minutes ago ip: 194.12.75. ***
    Не поддаваться на провокацию . Общественное Национальное Движения " Народный Президент " просит Граждан Украины не поддаваться на провокации эмиссаров из-за границы , в первую очередь США , основная цель которых сводится к разделению Украины на территории влияния США - Польша ( Запад ) и Россия ( Восток ) . Украинская Элита ( если она такова ) должна незамедлительно прекратить внутриполитическое противостояние борьбы за власть и не подставлять Президента Украины , который принял трудное для страны политическое решения на Вильнюском самите . Революции придумывают гении , осуществляют фанаты , ПОЛЬЗУЮТСЯ проходимцы , цель одних дорваться до Корыта , а других не пустить . Все Политические Проститутки как от власти , так и от оппозиции в своих заявлениях и демаршах будут толкать к гражданскому противостоянию , делая заложниками украинцев . В нашем доме хозяин один - это Мудрый Народ , готовый отдать жизнь за единство своей страны . Не дадим Себя обмануть .
    I am a Cossack. I - .
    Hour ago ip: 178.213.104. ***
    акция проходит под лозунгом "МАйдауны против Украины" ",Угробь экономику -помоги Евросоюзу"
    His an hour ago ip: 91.222.80. ***
    No split will be behind the scum who beat the children, no one will go.
    fcsd an hour ago ip: 46.118.252. ***
    normal children sit at home.
    1. alone
      alone 1 December 2013 10: 06 New
      +2
      Dear, didn’t you try to delete repeated comments?
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 1 December 2013 10: 30 New
        +1
        Quote: lonely
        Dear, didn’t you try to delete repeated comments?

        Да все время стараюсь "перехватывать" дубли, и вместо него вставить новое сообщение, а этот пропустила, (уже 4й дубль - не знаю, как так получается) - если знаете как просто убрать, подскажите, пожалуйста! repeat
        1. alone
          alone 1 December 2013 10: 39 New
          0
          нажмите просто "удалить" на повторном комменте и удалите. laughing
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 1 December 2013 11: 27 New
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            Quote: lonely
            нажмите просто "удалить" на повторном комменте и удалите.

            Not deleted !!!! I already tried !!! crying
    2. komsomolets
      komsomolets 1 December 2013 10: 46 New
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      I was struck 30 yesterday, the Golden Eagle made the best present, dispersed the euro-zombie. Thanks to Yanukovych and the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, they respected me.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 1 December 2013 12: 28 New
        +3
        Quote: komsomolets
        I hit 30 yesterday

        I heartily congratulate you! Health and good luck in everything! AND MUCH MUCH JOY!
        1. komsomolets
          komsomolets 1 December 2013 13: 28 New
          +3
          Wai, thanks, there’s a scent that both health and luck oh how come in handy
      2. Stanislas
        Stanislas 1 December 2013 13: 32 New
        +3
        Congratulations on your birthday! Where are your fellow zahidnyaks (zapadentsy) now? One cannot see today something of their wise reasoning about how Russia again prevented Ukraine from raking in its full bliss ... I hope that they went to the Euro-sidedown, because the Golden Eagle needs fresh heads.
  32. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 1 December 2013 10: 04 New
    +4
    Everywhere is Chinese sky- у России "зеленая улица". wink
    US Secretary of Defense talks about peaceful navigation in the Arctic Ocean ...- главная забота о коренных жителях и "демократии" на этих территориях. laughing

    Afghan government explores reinstatement of death penalty by stoning - вот уж истинная "демократия"...не поспоришь..ага.

    - Sensation: yesterday in Brussels, an urgent decision was made to immediately accept Ukraine into the European Union!
    - Magnetic storms?
    “No, it’s just a matter of the collapse of the euro and the collapse of the European Union, so that European officials are preparing a decent explanation for their failure:“ The European Union collapsed after Ukraine was accepted there. ”
    - Did not work out.... tongue
  33. Stanislas
    Stanislas 1 December 2013 10: 35 New
    +5
    And the lustful old woman Geyropa sings a sad song:
    The doors are all open, bandits do not go.
    Let not four come, although one come!
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  35. Dimy4
    Dimy4 1 December 2013 10: 43 New
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    It does not matter, we will find other enemies.

    Now, here we also need to take this policy into service, and prepare to repel aggression, for example, the state of Medonia, what? there is no such state, so what, what if it suddenly appears, and we are not ready for aggression.
  36. netMolotov
    netMolotov 1 December 2013 10: 49 New
    +3
    Someone who is very serious is roofing Serdyukov.

    I list - Jews, Masons, State Department, Fifth Colon, Democrats, Liberalists, and Geyropa. And the current GDP Can’t do anything about it !!!
    1. kaktus
      kaktus 1 December 2013 14: 14 New
      +1
      The aliens are forgotten wassat
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 2 December 2013 19: 28 New
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        Quote: kaktus
        Jews, Masons, State Department, Fifth Colon, Democrats, Liberals, and Geyropa. And current GDP


        Quote: kaktus
        The aliens are forgotten


        И вы не правы, и вы тоже не правы. Двадцать лет развития РФ в "правильном" направлении, начиная с расстрела "Белого дома=1993", сделали свое черное дело. Молчим-с! Виноваты не только "крышеватели", но и мы с вами ?правдорубы?
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  38. Dimy4
    Dimy4 1 December 2013 10: 55 New
    +4
    The US Arctic Strategy, which noted the need to care for the environment and preserve the region as a conflict-free zone.

    The United States has a very peculiar understanding of the conflict-free zone, namely, this is not a zone where there are no conflicts, but where there is no one to create them, since everyone has died.
  39. sashka
    sashka 1 December 2013 11: 01 New
    +2
    The fascist just reaches for the fascist .. You won’t run away from Fate
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  42. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 1 December 2013 11: 24 New
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    Quote: Fin
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Dad is with us!))

    Хотелось чтобы так было. Я думаю ВВП приезжал "сверить часы" по ЛГБТ, ну и другим вопросам. От папы бы заявление о недопустимости гейбраков, и все норм, "добро мочить".

    Кроме шуток..Путин не просто так с Папой встречался..Этот Папа католический нового формата.!К нему прислушиваются католическая паства..Россия по моему единственная страна осталась которая держит оборону против бородатых и геев заполонивших мир !Тут уж не до смеха..Идет уничтожение культур и религий как таковых .."Бери от жизни все" сейчас такой лозунг вдалбливается в умы (особенно молодежи нашей) Вот такие дела блин..
  43. nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn 1 December 2013 11: 25 New
    0
    Thank! The only thing is that the ice does not melt, not a fact, but an opportunity predicted with a certain degree of probability. And then Russia began to return to the Arctic ...
  44. nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn 1 December 2013 11: 25 New
    +2
    Thank! The only thing is that the ice does not melt, not a fact, but an opportunity predicted with a certain degree of probability. And then Russia began to return to the Arctic ...
  45. Egoza
    Egoza 1 December 2013 11: 34 New
    +2
    All the phrases highlighted below, I highlighted.

    Opposition creates headquarters for national resistance
    Лидер фракции "Батькивщина" Арсений Яценюк заявил, что оппозиция создаст штаб национального сопротивления и начнет preparation of an all-Ukrainian strike.

    "Три оппозиционные партии приняли совместное решение о формировании штаба национального сопротивлени . Мы начали подготовку к всеукраинской национальной забастовке", - сказал Яценюк на брифинге в субботу в Киеве.

    "Сегодня ночью по заказу Виктора Януковича было совершено преступление против простых мирных людей и - самое страшное - против детей, которых зверски избил спецподразделение " Беркут " по указанию министра МВД Захарченко", - подчеркнул он.

    "Ответственность за это преступление в стране несут два человека : Виктор Янукович как заказчик и министр МВД Захарченко как исполнитель этого преступления" , - сказал Яценюк.

    Оппозиция требует отставки главы МВД : "И не только отставки , а уголовного расследования его деяний и суда на таким министром".

    Кроме того , оппозиция требует "персональный состав всех спецподразделений, которые били наших детей на улицах города Киева и на Майдане": "Уже сейчас можно сказать , что один из руководителей спецподразделения" Беркут ", а именно Косюк Сергей Николаевич , начальник "Беркута" в Киеве, давал указания бить детей", - said the politician.

    Яценюк подчеркнул , что вчера он лично видел возле администрации президента несколько десятков автобусов " Беркута " из Днепропетровска и Луганска: "Именно этот "Беркут" бил детей, выполнял незаконные приказы . Мы найдем фамилии работников" Беркута " из Донецка и Луганска, всех начальников этого "Беркута" , которые давали указание бить детей. Одно - when they are wearing helmets and in a herd, а другое - когда они знают, что нарушили закон и будут нести за это ответственность".

    "Наши политические требования не меняются , и они предусматривают отставку Кабмина Украины , о чем внесена резолюция недоверия правительству, и смена Виктора Януковича через одновременные президентские и парламентские выборы" , - demethylamine.

    Яценюк напомнил , что 30 ноября в 4 утра были арестованы 35 активистов : "Нам удалось каждого активиста вытащить из милиции. Работали адвокаты, были народные депутаты, и ни одного арестованного сейчас нет".

    He also added that оппозиция ожидает реакции западных партнеров "и не на словах, а на деле ":" Пришло время действия . Все мечты развеялись".
    Source: Interfax-Ukraine
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 1 December 2013 11: 57 New
      +5
      Quote: Egoza
      Яценюк напомнил , что 30 ноября в 4 утра были арестованы 35 активистов : "Нам удалось каждого активиста вытащить из милиции. Работали адвокаты, были народные депутаты, и ни одного арестованного сейчас нет".
      Он также добавил, что оппозиция ожидает реакции западных партнеров "и не на словах, а на деле ":" Пришло время действия . Все мечты развеялись".

      It is a pity that Yatsenyuk does not braid the braid.
      А "хрустальной челюсти" фамилию надо поменять на Klichyushchenko.
      And then there will be complete deja vu
    2. polly
      polly 1 December 2013 14: 48 New
      +1
      В ходе "уголовного расследования деяний" Косюка(аки царя Ирода!) неплохо бы поставить вопрос о лишении родительских прав тех, кто привел несовершеннолетних детей на площадь, не внимая их воплям, что они- мирные демонстранты!
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    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 1 December 2013 11: 54 New
      +2
      Ягоза Приветствую! Все будет нормально! Время " управляемых хаусов" заканчивается..Все все уже давно понимают..Пора работать совместно и все! Заводы фабрики модернизируем ..заработают (такие вещи начнем выпускать совместно) Весь мир поразится ..Время нужно!
      1. alone
        alone 1 December 2013 12: 18 New
        +3
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Ягоза Приветствую! Все будет нормально! Время " управляемых хаусов" заканчивается..Все все уже давно понимают..Пора работать совместно и все! Заводы фабрики модернизируем ..заработают (такие вещи начнем выпускать совместно) Весь мир поразится ..Время нужно!


        Vitaliy! Modernization of plants and factories costs a lot of money. Modernization does not mean economic recovery. The market is now occupied, too much time has passed to return part of the clientele you need to work for decades. Do you think foreigners will sell their latest technologies? I'm not sure. I don’t need new a competitor in the market with its goods. The Post-Soviet space they are interested in only as cheap
        a raw materials appendage and nothing more. And the WORLD was already struck by an illness-- Byznes is called, everyone makes money! who really works, and someone is ready to sell their homeland for money for a loaf of bread !!
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 1 December 2013 12: 24 New
          +4
          Quote: lonely
          The WORLD was already amazed by the disease-- Byznes is called, everyone makes money! who really works, and someone is ready to sell their homeland for money for a loaf of bread !!

          +++++++++++++++++++++ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        2. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 1 December 2013 12: 31 New
          +2
          Quote: lonely
          Upgrading factories costs a lot of money. Upgrading does not mean boosting the economy.

          Согласен! Я в будущее просто заглянул...А сейчас согласен "вечером деньги утром стулья.." Только так.. должно быть...Россия не дойная корова и жизнь у основного населения не сахар..Но кроме денег есть еще один нюанс.. это политический..Потом можем просто кровью наших солдат расплачиваться...(что не раз за нашу историю случалось..) Пусть земля им будет пухом ..Мы все помним...
  47. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 1 December 2013 11: 37 New
    +2
    Quote: major071
    После провозглашения лозунга"Папа с нами!" 1 декабря 2013 года неизвестным под ником МИХАН, по стране поползли слухи, передаваемые шепотам только на ушко в темных подворотнях, подъездах и подпольных квартирах. Папа с нами! - шепчут люди и делают многозначительное лицо

    laughing Greetings Major! Pokolol))) .. wassat Laughing from the heart ... heh heh
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  49. Egoza
    Egoza 1 December 2013 11: 46 New
    10
    Еще раз хочу обратить внимание на "детей"
    the age of “students” detained by police: Savitsky Igor Ivanovich, 1969 year of birth, resides in Ternopil region, Dudok Vladimir Vasilievich, was born in 1961 year, lives in Lviv Ugrin Vasily Alekseevich, 43 of the year, Ternopil regionKryachko Ivan Ivanovich, 52 of the year, Exactly, Vozny Andrey Igorevich, 43 of the year, the city of Lviv. And so on. Interesting "students" spent the night on the "Euromaidan". Most of them are newcomers.
    1. typhoon7
      typhoon7 1 December 2013 15: 49 New
      +1
      Not frail kids!
  50. Technologist
    Technologist 1 December 2013 11: 49 New
    0
    But what difference does it make who protects him, all this indicates the inconsistency of our government.