How the USSR helped Vietnam repel Chinese aggression

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On the eve of the war in Afghanistan, the USSR had to take part in another conflict. At the very beginning of 1979, a clash took place between the People’s Republic of China and Vietnam, and thanks to the Soviet Union, large-scale hostilities were avoided.

With the coming to power of Deng Xiaoping, relations between China and Vietnam became even more tense. The conclusion of the Soviet-Vietnamese Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation on November 3, 1978, further intensified the friction between Beijing and Hanoi. It approved the provisions on "joint defense", on "joint actions to ensure the security of both countries," as well as the duty to exchange views on important international issues, if they concern the parties to the agreement. Beijing recalled its ambassador and military attache from Hanoi, reduced the number of representatives, interrupted railway communication between the countries and stopped providing economic assistance. The Chinese hoped to control Vietnam with the help of neighboring Kampuchea (present-day Cambodia), where the Khmer Rouge regime at the time was flourishing, led by Paul Hee. But the dictator did not justify the hopes of China: committing massacres, he did not spare anyone, including the Vietnamese community. In December, 1978, Vietnam decided to intervene and support the rebel army. 7 January 1979, the Pol Pot regime, China’s only ally in the region, was overthrown, which caused Beijing to resent.

How the USSR helped Vietnam repel Chinese aggression


At the end of January, Deng Xiaoping arrived in the United States on a nine-day visit and stated in Washington that Vietnam should “be taught a lesson”. By February, the Chinese leader was already pulling military forces to the border with Vietnam. In total, 29 divisions were deployed at the front, in addition, there was a hidden relocation aviation. On February 16, 1979, Hanoi was formally charged with threatening Chinese territory, and at dawn on February 17, the People’s Liberation Army of China (PLA) invaded the northern provinces of Vietnam.

Deng Xiaoping's government pursued several goals: to undermine the enemy’s defenses, cause economic losses, and seize territory with the provincial centers of Lao Cay, Caobang and Lang Son. But the main goal was to assert control over the region. By starting a war with Vietnam, China defied the Soviet Union. The formal reason was the oppression of the Chinese community in Vietnam. The Chinese were first deprived of Vietnamese citizenship, then they were deprived of the right to have their own business and hold any political posts. In large cities, Chinese trade was closed, and the goods were confiscated. The Chinese living on the border were simply expelled to Chinese territory. The second, more official reason was the invasion of the Vietnamese military ships on the Spratly Islands, which China considered its territory.

The PLA launched an attack along the Vietnamese-Chinese border. The main areas of invasion were Laokai, Kaobang and Langshon. The strength of the Chinese army, concentrated on the Vietnamese border, reached 600 thousand soldiers, but about 250 thousand entered the territory of the country with the support of 200 tanks. They were opposed by the Vietnamese people's army in the amount of about 100 thousand soldiers.

As soon as the Soviet Union found out about the attack of China, the main military adviser in Laos, Major General Gaponenko, was sent to Vietnam. The USSR launched a full-scale preparation for possible military action. 6 military districts were brought to alert. Two airborne divisions were sent to the east, which were located on the border with Mongolia. 19 February General of the Army Gennady Obaturov, appointed chief military adviser in Vietnam, arrived in Hanoi on 1979. Together with other Soviet specialists, he studied the situation and advised the Vietnamese command to mobilize army units in the Langshon area. Contributed to the victory and a few Soviet experts. The transport squadron pilots on An-12 carried out the transfer of the army corps from Kampuchea to the Langshon direction, the communications center communications centers of the main military adviser (about 120 people were there from August 1978, and 68 was redeployed after the start of the conflict) provided our advisers with communication, including in the combat area.



Fully at the expense of units transferred from the Soviet Union, the problem of conducting enemy air reconnaissance on the territory of Vietnam was solved. Parts of the military transport aviation provided air transportation on the territory of Vietnam. Successfully functioned an air bridge between the USSR and Vietnam. As part of the exercises and supplies of NRW, military transport aircraft transported more than 20 thousand personnel, more than 1000 combat equipment, 20 aircraft and helicopters, more than 3 thousand tons of armament, property and ammunition in less than a month.

Military assistance to Vietnam was also very serious due to a sharp increase in its military potential through the supply of equipment and weapons. From the beginning of the conflict to the end of March, more than 400 tanks, infantry combat vehicles and armored personnel carriers, 400 guns and mortars, 50 MLRS Grad, more 100 anti-aircraft systems, 400 portable anti-aircraft complexes and thousands of missiles to them, more than 800 were deployed by sea transport. Hand-held anti-tank grenade launchers, 20 fighters. In addition, special engineering equipment and equipment for the repair of armored vehicles and vehicles and weapons were supplied. All this huge amount of equipment and weapons was allocated and delivered to Vietnam practically within one month.

The exercise began with the mobilization and bringing of troops and forces fleet in full combat readiness. Over 52 thousand people were called up from the reserve. ascribed structure and delivered from the national economy more than 5 thousand cars. The largest were the military exercises in Mongolia, in which six motorized rifle and tank divisions took part, three of which were additionally introduced to the MPR from Siberia and Transbaikalia. In addition, two brigades, up to three aviation divisions, as well as formations and reinforcement units, were involved in events in the territory of this republic.



In addition, during this period, military exercises were held in the Far East and East Kazakhstan with the participation of several combined arms and air formations, as well as border troops. In the course of the exercise, combat reconciliation was conducted. Compounds and units in difficult climatic and natural conditions made marches over long distances from Siberia to Mongolia (more than 2 thousand km). The troops regrouped by rail, were transferred by air. In particular, the airborne division from Tula was transported to the Chita region by 5,5 thousand km by military transport aviation on one flight in just two days. The regiments of military aviation from the territory of Ukraine and Belarus were transferred to the airfields of Mongolia.

In the border areas with China, the organization of defense, repelling the enemy invasion, putting counterstrikes and organizing counterattacks were practiced.
The Pacific Fleet was also mobilized. At the end of February there were 13 warships in the South China Sea, and in March there were already 30 ships. In addition, submarines in the Gulf of Tonkin blocked access for warships from other states. The connection of Soviet ships was in the South China Sea until April 1979. The result of their actions was that the Southern Navy of the People's Republic of China did not take part in the attack, despite the fact that it counted 300 ships, although most of them were small ships of coastal defense. In addition, they provided a safe passage and delivery of goods to Vietnam, since during the fighting in the port of Haiphong, which was located in 100-250 km from the front line, were under unloading Soviet ships 5-6, delivered military equipment, including rockets and radar. For the courage and heroism shown in the performance of the task, 36 sailors of the Pacific Fleet squadron were awarded government awards.

An important role was played by the psychological factor. The Chinese Embassy was sent from Moscow to their homeland by train, and on the way to the east they could observe columns of tanks moving towards the border. Exercises of paratroopers from the 106 Guards Airborne Division were also held near the Mongolian-Chinese border in the Gobi Desert.



The Chinese army was commanded by General Yang Dezhi. In late February - early March, he mobilized the reserves of the army, and the troops managed to seize the main provincial centers. 18 February, the PLA took Laokai, 2 March - Caobang, 4 March fell Lang Son. The road to Hanoi was open. However, in other directions, the Chinese army pursued setbacks, and soon it was thrown back. In response to the aggression, Vietnam turned to the UN with a protest, although without interrupting diplomatic relations with the PRC. The USSR and Taiwan have accused the United States of supporting China.

2 March The Soviet Union published a statement where it was unequivocally said that if China did not withdraw its troops from Vietnam, it would have to fight on two fronts. The day after the capture of Langshon, 5 March, the Vietnamese authorities announced a general mobilization. At the same time, Beijing officially announced the termination of the offensive and the withdrawal of the Chinese army from the territory of Vietnam. This decision was due to a number of political and military factors, the main of which were: the firm and resolute support of Hanoi from Moscow, which demanded an immediate cessation of the aggression; preparations for the conduct and conduct of the Soviet Union military activities in the East; increased controversy within the Peking leadership during the development of the conflict; negative international reaction; the stubborn resistance of the Vietnamese People’s Army troops, which inflicted heavy losses on the aggressor; the serious shortcomings in the operational-tactical training of commanders of the Chinese troops, in equipping with modern armament and military equipment, difficulties in supply. The withdrawal of the main Chinese forces in all directions was preceded by strong artillery fire raids and demonstrative attacks of the covering forces of the withdrawal. During the withdrawal, massed artillery-mortar fire was widely used, roads were mined, bridges were destroyed, national economic objects were destroyed. The troops finally left the country by the end of March.



Thus, the Vietnamese-Chinese conflict lasted only 30 days and ended with the victory of Vietnam. According to modern data, the casualties of both sides amounted to 22 thousands of dead and wounded Chinese and about 20 thousands of dead and wounded Vietnamese. The northern provinces of Vietnam were seriously injured, with enormous economic damage. More than 45 thousands of homes of civilians were destroyed, around 1000 schools, over 400 hospitals and 55 industrial enterprises. The conflict was of a land nature, both sides did not use either aircraft or navy. During the confrontation, the shortcomings of the armies of both sides were revealed, which triggered the modernization of the Chinese army.
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  1. +20
    26 November 2013 08: 56
    About that joke:
    The Chinese retreated, they are asked why
    - They kicked us.
    -Why feet?
    - They’re eyes with their hands, so that they would look like Vietnamese

    They also called the first socialist war
    1. +19
      26 November 2013 09: 04
      It seems to me that the sly fox Deng Xiao Ping thus killed two birds with one stone - put the general in his place and rubbed his trust in the United States.
      The United States has relied on China as a counterweight to the USSR - and now China is about to catch up with the United States.
      And the USSR is already like 22 years of history. Learn from the Chinese - they lost the battle in order to eventually win.
      1. +15
        26 November 2013 09: 30
        History is a pendulum. Smart will not forget it.
        1. +14
          26 November 2013 12: 42
          The only lesson that can be learned from history is that people do not learn from history. b.show
      2. +4
        26 November 2013 16: 23
        Quote: Lindon
        And the USSR has already been history for 22 years. Learn from the Chinese - lost the battle to ultimately win

        they are like in a minefield: they bypassed the anti-personnel, stepped on anti-tank, but there are still landmines installed on non-recoverability, here they only fertilize the land with crowds ..... they already know this experience.
  2. +26
    26 November 2013 09: 07
    Repeat this story today Vietnam will not receive from Russia except "mentally with you".
    1. Vovka levka
      +1
      26 November 2013 11: 44
      Quote: Nayhas
      Repeat this story today Vietnam will not receive from Russia except "mentally with you".

      Then not only helped and fought. And not everyone returned home themselves, like that.
      1. +7
        26 November 2013 22: 38
        Yes, But the war was on foreign territory and the population did not suffer! And now for 20 years the war has been going on in the territory of the USSR and, first of all, peaceful people are dying! traitors are put in memory, and patriots are planted!
        That’s all the differences, comrades.
    2. tank 34
      0
      26 November 2013 14: 02
      It is very possible, but maybe not.
    3. +2
      26 November 2013 17: 19
      Quote: Nayhas
      Repeat this story today Vietnam will not receive from Russia except "mentally with you".

      And the Chinese didn’t arm themselves in vain. They armed themselves on their own head. I think Vietnam doesn’t shine now, they’ll throw it in slippers
    4. avg
      0
      26 November 2013 23: 18
      Quote: Nayhas
      Repeat this story today Vietnam will not receive from Russia except "mentally with you".

      And why should Russia fight for Vietnam. What is allied relations with us? Or do you suggest being a plug in every hole?
      1. +1
        27 November 2013 07: 38
        Yes, we have all noticed that Russia has no allied relations with anyone. All who could be surrendered over the past 20 years. I am surprised that they started to defend Syria, although the destruction of its chemical weapons seems to be a very dubious step.
      2. Alexander I
        +2
        27 November 2013 08: 31
        it’s better to sit in the trenches near Hanoi than under Rostov or Volgograd
  3. +6
    26 November 2013 09: 10
    Interesting article. didn't know the details, thanks.
    1. +7
      26 November 2013 14: 51
      lewerlin53rus
      Also did not know about the scale of our actions. It was surprising that we, it seems, the only time in history that actually appeared on the international scene side by side with Taiwan ... By the way, the fact that Taiwan blundered something against the United States is generally unprecedented, they were horrified by the fact that the Americans they can be handed over to the Chinese. :)))
  4. makarov
    +6
    26 November 2013 09: 17
    as the parable was at that time: - the Vietnamese pilot LI Xi Qing destroyed 5 Chinese aircraft in the airspace
  5. +13
    26 November 2013 09: 48
    At the end of January, Deng Xiaoping arrived in the United States on a nine-day visit and stated in Washington that Vietnam should “be taught a lesson”.

    Yes, the Chinas are unprincipled, of course, individuals, in Washington they asked for permission. Well, of course, they took revenge on the USSR, they filled up the Dushmans with their weapons.
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  6. +13
    26 November 2013 09: 56
    The Vietnamese army had extensive experience in the war with the United States and stubbornly fought off Chinese aggression. And the Chinese aviation received in the face from the Vietnamese air defense and no longer meddled. And Lindon is right, China is growing as a counterweight to the USSR.
  7. +21
    26 November 2013 10: 13
    The moment is near when China decides to try us for strength. And we have, as always, 41 year.
    What we shall do?
    1. -12
      26 November 2013 12: 41
      Quote: sawmill
      The moment is near when China decides to try us for strength. And we have, as always, 41 year.
      What we shall do?

      Learn Chinese
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      2. +26
        26 November 2013 14: 54
        Nayhas
        Pessimists learn Chinese, optimists learn Kalashnikov’s assault rifle! :)))
        1. +3
          26 November 2013 19: 50
          THIS IS CORRECT! And they also acquire legally good rifled hunting weapons. The truth is there is no one to shoot from it except in Siberia and the Far North.
          Need to have rifled and I recommend to everyone SVD TIGER
          with a short barrel, very comfortable up to 300-400 meters
          1. +3
            26 November 2013 22: 06
            The first thing that happens during armed conflicts is the confiscation of all registered weapons from the population. In general, no need to steam. In the case of a mess, the weapon immediately becomes cheaper and becomes much more affordable.
        2. +5
          26 November 2013 21: 41
          Quote: smile
          Nayhas
          Pessimists learn Chinese, optimists learn Kalashnikov’s assault rifle! :)))

          Not certainly in that way. Optimists learn English. A Kalashnikov assault rifle is being studied realists. laughing
          1. +4
            26 November 2013 21: 47
            Well, why is it so straight away, not understanding? SMILE (Jung Woo Hong), he is Volodya, he said everything correctly wink
            1. +1
              27 November 2013 05: 39
              Day 11
              Oh, my mother is RODNY .... Dan, where did you send me to? Am I really the same Jung Woo Hong? Dan, I’ll complain about Mom, she’s definitely scolding you so that you don’t teach me bad words ... :))))) By the way, my Mommy Kalashnikov assault rifle was dismantled and assembled no worse than me ... and was the best shooter in the department . So, look, when you call me Chonduhwan - he will put me in a corner! And your parents will convince you that there is a place for you :)))))
          2. 0
            27 November 2013 05: 31
            Revolver
            Initially, it sounded like you wrote, but what can you do if I am realistic and optimistic :))))) .... English is familiar, but is it unacceptable for me to consider it as state language as Chinese? :)))) So it turned out what happened - the best international language in this particular case is the Kalash language. :)))
          3. 0
            27 November 2013 08: 00
            I like Japanese more. wink
      3. +11
        26 November 2013 15: 12
        The town has long reflected this topic, and without a test of strength

      4. +3
        26 November 2013 16: 26
        Quote: Nayhas
        The moment is near when China decides to try us for strength. And we have 41 years as always. What will we do?

        -Put border towers along the Great Wall of China soldier
        1. 0
          27 November 2013 00: 41
          In fact, this wall was not built by the Chinese - it is now they, during the "reconstruction", are moving the loopholes from the south to the north, and in the unrepaired sections all the loopholes of the wall face south, so it was not the Chinese who defended on this wall, but from this locust and was protected by a wall, and now this wall is urgently rebuilt hi
      5. +5
        26 November 2013 19: 19
        Of course, to teach. And who will interrogate the prisoners? Pushkin?
    2. +6
      26 November 2013 12: 51
      Our management apparently believes that all problems can be closed with special ammunition. The border in the Far East is bare, all the fortified areas have been destroyed, most of the units have been eliminated.
    3. +4
      26 November 2013 13: 04
      And Vietnam NOW will not harness for us. To two fronts ...
      1. +2
        26 November 2013 16: 30
        Quote: Nexus 6
        And Vietnam NOW will not harness for us. To two fronts ..

        ..... harnessed, without them they can’t live, there will still be a couple of Chinese provinces
    4. avg
      +1
      26 November 2013 23: 21
      Quote: sawmill
      The moment is near when China decides to try us for strength. And we have, as always, 41 year.
      What we shall do?

      To get started, we catch alarmists. negative
      1. Alexander I
        0
        27 November 2013 08: 40
        The alarmists, enemies of the people had to be shot twenty years ago.
    5. +1
      27 November 2013 07: 59
      Now the 41st year is hardly possible ... Firstly, China is far from Nazi Germany (a comparison is inappropriate), secondly, Russia is far from the Stalinist USSR, and thirdly, both countries have nuclear weapons. And people are different now.
  8. ed65b
    +8
    26 November 2013 10: 16
    So, the USSR in one word. hi
  9. +16
    26 November 2013 10: 45
    The Chinese were first deprived of Vietnamese citizenship, then they were deprived of the right to have their own business and occupy any political posts.
    This is what I call the defense of national interests. And the policy of our authorities is more like the behavior of a woman of easy virtue.
    1. 0
      26 November 2013 14: 56
      Ingvar 72
      Greetings!
      In my opinion, right now, the policy of our authorities in the international arena has ceased to be a policy of concessions. Your statement is completely unfounded.
      1. +6
        26 November 2013 16: 01
        Quote: smile
        In my opinion, right now, the policy of our authorities in the international arena has ceased to be a policy of concessions. Your statement is completely unfounded.

        Hello again, Vladimir. You understood me wrong. I do not argue about foreign policy. In my comment, I had in mind domestic politics.
        The Chinese were first deprived of Vietnamese citizenship, then they were deprived of the right to have their own business and occupy any political posts.
        It would not hurt our leadership to learn, almost all of the trade in products coming from the south, and not from ours anymore. hi
        1. +1
          26 November 2013 17: 34
          Ingvar 72
          Here I agree. Exactly my prolapse - I admit.
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    3. Shur
      0
      26 November 2013 22: 36
      Two women ...
  10. Lesnik
    +6
    26 November 2013 10: 46
    China needs energy, territory, food, where will it go for them?
    1. 0
      26 November 2013 22: 08
      south, it's warmer there.
    2. Shur
      0
      26 November 2013 22: 38
      He’s going to Africa .. He will ooze here before a narrow-eyed majority before the referendum! laughing
      1. Lesnik
        0
        26 November 2013 22: 52
        Who is Beijing going to fight with if none of its neighbors threatens it? It is separated from India by impassable mountains, Indochina is so overpopulated and has no resources. There remains one direction for the land armada - the north.
  11. vovich
    +10
    26 November 2013 10: 49
    The article does not note that the Chinese lost about 280 tanks and armored personnel carriers. And the fact that the main blow fell on border guards and militias. The regular army appeared already at the end of the conflict.
    1. 0
      26 November 2013 19: 59
      Quote: vovich
      The article is not marked

      The article also did not note a three-day standing at the border, and that on the night of March 1 to 2, parts of the SA invaded the PRC to a depth of 15 km. And on the 4th all were in the barracks)).
  12. +9
    26 November 2013 10: 49
    For 30 days, the Chinese managed to destroy 1000 schools and 450 kindergartens, are they military facilities?
    Wow - an invasion, a war with children is more disgusting than you can imagine.
    1. +1
      26 November 2013 14: 59
      Same lech
      As far as I understand, the Chinese were not going to occupy Vietnamese territory for a long time, therefore they subjected to total destruction everything that was on Vietnamese territory.
    2. +2
      26 November 2013 16: 34
      all aggressors do so, destroy the future of the country in the first place ..... and Asians are the most zealous, this is familiar to us and especially to the Far East (Russian-Japanese, Greek war, WWII)
  13. +5
    26 November 2013 10: 51
    I remember in school, the rally was in support of Vietnam's scrap metal that they collected in some way, they helped wink
  14. +6
    26 November 2013 10: 56
    At our school there was one of the teachers of the Department of Tactics - a participant in those events, he spoke very interestingly about the organization of raids by Vietnamese PT76, first during the "pacification" of Pol Pot, and then when repelling Chinese aggression. "Plavun" showed itself there - beyond praise ... And he was very sorry that the Vietnamese did not have BMP-2 at that moment, together with the "Plavun" they would have done even more "rustle" there ...
    1. sapran
      +8
      26 November 2013 11: 19
      ... And a delegation from Vietnam came to our school in an independent one. They handed the order to the senior warrant officer and a number of valuable gifts to officers from the Department of Tank Design. The order was given for the fact that, on the eve of the conflict with China, this ensign gave practical steps to bring the T-54 from the Chinese border to Hanoi, which was considered an impossible task, but according to the teachers .. (in general, the grandfathers did not prick what they were doing there. Plyvunov praised and wildly resented about the curtailment of programs for the development and production of RT in the USSR and the transfer of their tasks to the BMP-3.
  15. AK-47
    +5
    26 November 2013 11: 13
    Very interesting information, despite the serious scale of the actions taken by the USSR, these events were not covered in the media of that time, thanks to the author.
  16. +1
    26 November 2013 11: 15
    "First Socialist" - what can I add here?
  17. +15
    26 November 2013 12: 55
    At the end of January, Deng Xiaoping arrived in the United States on a nine-day visit and stated in Washington that Vietnam should “be taught a lesson”.

    And the Yankees in response:
    - Why are you cho ?! belay fool
    We are just from this lesson! feel
    The guys themselves
  18. volvo
    +7
    26 November 2013 13: 25
    the scale, volume and timing of the transfer of equipment and people are impressive, as well as the instant reaction of our management! if something like that happened right now .... I am plagued by vague doubts .. PS I recently read here about military aid to Ethiopia - this is something .. !!!
    1. 0
      27 November 2013 07: 41
      Yes, the comparison with Yugoslavia in the 99th is especially revealing. To her, such help as Vietnam was vitally important.
  19. VADEL
    +5
    26 November 2013 13: 47
    China is still a "quiet pool". Fuck you can tell where the eyes are looking.
  20. +13
    26 November 2013 13: 54
    my ex-father was there, a mechanic driver (he served in the T72 in the army, I don’t remember what I was there, but it’s the same), he said that the Chinese knew that they would face the Russians, ours had tanks and shilka, they were mowing down with shilka, they covered with tanks , after the mowing went to collect the living, said that the Chinese all knew the phrase "do not kill your brother" (well, what are not Caucasians).
    1. +5
      26 November 2013 15: 02
      just exp
      As for the Caucasians, for sure, a well-aimed observation. :))) I can not help but mention - the Germans also sharply recalled - "comrade - their bin arbeiter" :)))
  21. +6
    26 November 2013 15: 26
    The Chinese are famous provocateurs. In 1969, on the way to Sakhalin, he stopped in Khabarovsk. The city lived an alarming life. The Chinese are at a distance of a shot. And most importantly, no one knows what comes to their mind. After all, only Damansky died. And most importantly, their flattery and respect, at the command of the helmsmen, can instantly turn into anger and hatred. In short, you need to keep your eyes open with the Chinese.
  22. +4
    26 November 2013 16: 02
    The article is nostalgia for our former power ....
  23. biglow
    +4
    26 November 2013 16: 33
    so mentioned in the article During the confrontation, the shortcomings of the armies of both sides were revealed, which served as an impetus to the modernization of the Chinese army.
    About the time of the Vietnamese company, the Chinese had to send their fighters to Vietnamese machine guns with the help of detachments. There were also cases when the Chinese killed their officers and whole units surrendered to the Vietnamese. And plus the complete loss of command of the troops in the death or severe wound of officers ... Many of these facts forced the Chinese to go on a humiliating retreat from their positions, with a general numerical superiority .. request
  24. +2
    26 November 2013 16: 50
    One must be prepared for war with the Chinese. They are dark horses.
  25. +1
    26 November 2013 16: 52
    Then the USSR Armed Forces breathed in the back of the Chinese neck and it faded quickly enough. And recalling from our press of those times: ... "so the heroic Vietnamese army itself defeated the huge forces of the aggressor"
    1. Radoslav
      +2
      26 November 2013 18: 10
      Delirium of a mentally ill person (the USSR was breathing in the back of my head.) China not only was not equal to the USSR but also lagged behind the USSR in socio-economic terms by decades, and in military-technical terms and generally by centuries. Read the story before falling into hysteria with spontaneous discharge from fear of severe form of diarrhea. In the thirties, during the Sino-Japanese War, one Japanese division smashed countless Chinese Kuomintang armies and the Chinese Red Army. How did the liberal press intimidate you during this time?
      1. biglow
        +4
        26 November 2013 18: 27
        Quote: Radoslav
        Delirium of a mentally ill person (the USSR was breathing in the back of my head.) China not only was not equal to the USSR but also lagged behind the USSR in socio-economic terms by decades, and in military-technical terms and generally by centuries. Read the story before falling into hysteria with spontaneous discharge from fear of severe form of diarrhea. In the thirties, during the Sino-Japanese War, one Japanese division smashed countless Chinese Kuomintang armies and the Chinese Red Army. How did the liberal press intimidate you during this time?

        during the Japanese aggression in China there was a civil war between different clans and peoples. China is far from being as mono-ethnic as it is often written about, and because of the civil war, in many ways, the Japanese managed to capture large territories of China so easily
        1. Radoslav
          +1
          26 November 2013 19: 16
          This is not entirely true. When the intervention of Japanese forces in China began, the Chinese civil war had not yet begun. Even then, the government Kuomintang troops of Chai Kanshi suffered defeat after defeat, from the Japanese troops numerically inferior to them, and this despite the fact that the Chinese troops received military assistance with technology, not only from the USSR, but also from the United States and England. I don’t remember the date exactly, but when the Chinese Red Army was created in China (Mao-tse-tung was not its creator, nor was it the first commander, he broke into the leaders, literally over the heads of his comrades destroyed by him, but this is so for reference), and so between the legitimate government of China and the Chinese Red Army, an agreement was concluded on a joint struggle with the Japanese troops, but this did not help, countless Chinese armies of two fronts were destroyed to the last man in battles with Japanese troops, even the Mao -the trainer, when he led the Chinese Red Army, began to abandon the open struggle with the Japanese, and began to use more often partisan methods of struggle, an unexpected blow, and a quick retreat to the mountains, resembling flight
  26. -1
    26 November 2013 18: 00
    they took and drove out the poor Chinese, something that reminds me of something. rights mother- teach a story son, fewer mistakes in life will be.
  27. 0
    26 November 2013 18: 01
    you need to learn history so that mistakes are not repeated. right mom, the story is spiraling.
  28. +2
    26 November 2013 18: 11
    I add that in addition to air defense, the Chinese were much inferior not in quantity, but in quality of aviation. The aircraft and their capabilities were from different generations.
  29. -1
    26 November 2013 18: 20
    Somewhere I read the story of the Red Star correspondent, who was sent to Vietnam to cover these events. He writes that they were not allowed into the area of ​​hostilities, and no one was particularly eager. The journalists drew their impressions of the "Vietnamese combatants" while sitting in a hotel. Ours got into a pose, they say I will describe only what I see with my own eyes. After a lot of grating, he was allowed to see the "front line", but for this he was asked not to publish what he saw. And he saw there a fierce shooting into the "milk" from both sides. Our cunning southeastern brothers faked a brawl to get the "big guys on beer". As a result of the event, Vietnam received nishtyaks from the USSR, and the Chinese bred the Americans to modernize the industry. Estessno, the Yankees spared no effort in growing the enemy of the USSR. As they say, nothing personal - just business ...
    1. biglow
      +3
      26 November 2013 18: 24
      Quote: Storyteller
      Somewhere I read the story of the Red Star correspondent, who was sent to Vietnam to cover these events. He writes that they were not allowed into the area of ​​hostilities, and no one was particularly eager. The journalists drew their impressions of the "Vietnamese combatants" while sitting in a hotel. Ours got into a pose, they say I will describe only what I see with my own eyes. After a lot of grating, he was allowed to see the "front line", but for this he was asked not to publish what he saw. And he saw there a fierce shooting into the "milk" from both sides. Our cunning southeastern brothers faked a brawl to get the "big guys on beer". As a result of the event, Vietnam received nishtyaks from the USSR, and the Chinese bred the Americans to modernize the industry. Estessno, the Yankees spared no effort in growing the enemy of the USSR. As they say, nothing personal - just business ...

      only where in this case came the loss of 20 thousand people from both sides?
      1. -7
        26 November 2013 19: 08
        Well, if such a bootleg was started, then they surely took care of information support. We’ve got it. Stalin has rotted a billion Soviet people in camps - few doubt it. And here there are only 20000 - a completely natural summary from the fronts. And you could write more. But something stopped them.
      2. 0
        26 November 2013 20: 32
        only where in this case came the loss of 20 thousand people from both sides?


        Joining the question: as well as the mining by the Chinese of the north of Vietnam, so that they cleared the mine for several years with the involvement of Soviet engineering troops?
    2. +3
      26 November 2013 19: 26
      Exactly, TALE. To lay out a photo of a heap of corpses on both sides?
      1. -3
        26 November 2013 20: 19
        Have you seen the Georgian reports from the 08.08.08 war. Just tears welling up. As Mrs. Belladonna used to say: "Artists !!! Well, just grab and run !!!"
    3. +3
      26 November 2013 21: 29
      Yes, these Chinese "nishtyaks" lie
  30. 0
    26 November 2013 18: 49
    Did not know. Thank.
    1. +2
      26 November 2013 19: 39
      It's great guys. The first socialist war was really very brutal. If I may say so, it was a war for leadership in the social camp. In the video there is an attack by the Chinese army on Khao Bang. A Chinese newsreel. Who cares, you can talk.
      1. 0
        26 November 2013 20: 03
        I mean the USSR and the PRC, which felt its strength
  31. +3
    26 November 2013 19: 47
    Type 62 (China), lined with Vietnamese
  32. +1
    26 November 2013 19: 50
    Captured Vietnamese (their fate is unenviable, all at a loss)
    1. +2
      26 November 2013 19: 56
      And these are Vietnamese volunteers during the conflict.
    2. +1
      26 November 2013 19: 59
      And here are the captured Chinese
      1. +2
        26 November 2013 21: 20
        Triple protection
  33. VADEL
    +2
    26 November 2013 20: 16
    The old owl remembered anecdote. China is developing a plan for an attack on the USSR: "Troops of 100 million soldiers will be concentrated on the left and right flanks, 200 million in the center." The question of one of the generals - "Will there be technical support? Answer:" Yes. Let's drop all reserves - 3 tanks and 2 planes. "
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  35. mikb
    -1
    26 November 2013 20: 27
    But there is not even a mention that the Far Eastern sailors were directly involved in the battle with the Chinese ...
  36. -2
    26 November 2013 20: 28
    This is what bothers me - why did Uncle Dan go to the Americans to declare jihad to the Vietnamese? Maybe for the main viewer to reach?
    1. +3
      26 November 2013 20: 34
      And what is there that is incomprehensible? In order to show that HE steers the socialist camp, and not some kind of decaying USSR. By the way, Kim-1 also supported him in this conflict (which he later remembered, realized his mistake, no longer will be)
  37. DZ_98_B
    -2
    26 November 2013 21: 54
    China is sharpening its teeth on Russia !!!!! The one who disputes this. either an enemy of Russia or a Chinese. And the most disgusting for many, and for me. If I were the Chinese commander in chief ... I would not bother about the territory of Mongolia, Kazakhstan. t to. it will immediately become clear that China is ready to seize, and will seize territory. You can also scare the public with attacks on a piece of the controversial Japanese islands in order to distract fools from the main blow. By capturing Russia, China will receive a bonus in the form of Mongolia. And then, probably, Kazakhstan and Asia. But about nuclear weapons, I would not even bother. The leadership of Russia will not dare to apply it! It simply cannot be used .. LET'S LET US NUMBER OF CHINESE DEMAND Chinese. 500 million left. And the Chinese are guaranteed to destroy the European part of Russia. Question .. who won? And the destruction of 500 million Chinese, for them it is a gift of fate. Excuse me but consider China a friend of Russia ..... well, it seems to me wrong.
    1. +2
      26 November 2013 22: 04
      Comrade, do not panic.
    2. Lesnik
      -1
      26 November 2013 22: 15
      Beijing makes territorial claims for part of the Spratly and Paracel Islands in the South China Sea, where oil and gas were found in the early 1990s. Vietnam, China, the Philippines, Taiwan, Malaysia, Brunei, Singapore and Indonesia claim their rights to the islands. But the conflict between Vietnam and China is particularly tough, and armed clashes have already taken place there repeatedly.
    3. 0
      27 November 2013 01: 05
      There is no need to kill the "billion Chinese". It is enough to destroy all their dams in the upper reaches of the main rivers - there are not many of them, but after that China's industry, including the defense industry, will cease to exist, since it is located on the same rivers, closer to the coast, whoever is interested may "Planet Earth" admire. On the Yellow River alone, behind the dams, there are 5 annual river flows, on the Yangtze, probably no less, so if something happens, the Chinese will be very quickly carried to the disputed islands by a fast current, in addition, all rice production is also downstream fellow
  38. -1
    26 November 2013 22: 18
    At the Mongolian-Chinese border, in the Gobi Desert, the exercises of paratroopers from the 106th Guards Airborne Division were also conducted.

    From the recollections of my daddy, he was serving the Tula division-Ryazan regiment then. At night they raised the alarm, the company commander came and asked, well, what are the guys going to war with me? Until now, he regrets that the sergeant did not manage to get out first, he was ahead of him, he signed voluntary assistance to Vietnam and forward to the planes. We jumped in the Gobi Desert near the Mongolian border, should have jumped the day before, but the tankers did not have time to reach the place of maneuvers, and as a result, they jumped the next day at high wind speed near the ground, three sides of my baht were "encouraged" to jump first side. As a result, 40 people in the hospital, 3 were killed, 3 bmd vshmyatku, one went nose-down into the ground. Dad himself flew 3 km through the desert by parachute, after which they were collected by helicopters throughout the desert. As a result, only the first side jumped, the rest turned. They even wanted to reward "for courage" but turned it down.
  39. 0
    26 November 2013 22: 20
    Yes, there was a time.
    Our valiant 8gv. Msd (Panfilovskaya) was brought to the state of wartime (but the entire conflict (month) was in places of constant deployment), and some parts of 68 msd and part of the management of 17 AKs were already sitting in the area on OR.

    32 army partially sunbathed at the Dzungarian gate.

    We had a secondary theater of operations, XUAR, but in ZABVO, the guys had more fun. The Zampolitans sang something to the fighters about the demobilization through Beijing (well, they have such a repertoire, and in principle the right one).

    And it seems quite recently.
  40. +3
    26 November 2013 22: 49
    The felling was fierce.
    China failed to flood the Vietnamese with cannon fodder. The Vietnamese proved once again that they are notable fighters.
    Despite the fact that the first blow was really reflected by border guards and militias.
  41. Asan Ata
    +2
    26 November 2013 23: 28
    I remember how they threw ink at the Chinese embassy in Moscow, there were many students, the entire territory of the embassy was in dark spots. It was fun! Nobody believed in the war with China, they understood that the gut was thin. I remember that reservists fought in Vietnam, on the rice receipts they set fire to the first and last tanks, and then all the others. Now, of course, China is different. The Chinese will not forgive insults, but with them. Today, only nuclear weapons are the guarantor of an invasion. They can’t get away with attacking Russia or the CIS countries, they can tear themselves up, but this is not included in their plans. Small wars with small states - this is their hobby. I think they will trample to Vietnam for anything - revenge. They will find the reason. More Afghanistan, Laos, Mughal. They can organize a local conflict with Japan.
    And so - to Africa, with aircraft carriers and others) (urney. bully
    1. BBM
      BBM
      0
      26 November 2013 23: 35
      but I think they will not trample. instead of the USSR, the USA took the place of their main enemy. and Vietnam is the only country in the region not Washington's litter. That is, at least purely theoretically, the Chinese have the opportunity to buy them, or at least rely on their neutrality.
    2. 0
      26 November 2013 23: 38
      Asan Ata, anyway, a test of strength will take place on the Japs. Do not go to the fortuneteller! At first, probing international relations to the problem (already in full swing). Then the landing on the islands of Chinese "ecologists" (volunteers, from their committee members). how will you have to, either to fight, or to shake off an insult (and continue to build up power)
  42. BBM
    BBM
    +2
    26 November 2013 23: 30
    Quote: Radoslav
    in socio-economic terms, it lagged behind the USSR for decades, and in military-technical terms and generally for centuries

    100%. But it must be added that that war still had a reason. In early 1979, Vietnam partially liberated Cambodia and overthrew the Khmer Rouge regime friendly to China (on the initiative and active participation of Moscow). True, it must be added that in addition to the Chinese who supported the Pol-Pot regime, the Americans officially supported it quite officially. And this war is a joint Sino-American project designed to restrain the further expansion of Soviet communism in Indo-China.
    1. +1
      27 November 2013 05: 55
      BBM
      All right. Only the issue is not the expansion of communism. Comrade Americans were ready to support anyone in order to weaken the influence of the USSR. Including the Sorbonne graduate - Pol Pot. Since he is against us, it means an American friend. And it doesn’t matter whether communism is in Russia or tsarism. The goal is Russia, not its ideology.
  43. Penek
    +1
    27 November 2013 00: 27
    In the 79th, Tula was deserted, the 106th division was transferred to Mongolia. All garrison outfits fell to the school.
    It seems to have made a model landing on the border with China. Here is what Pedivikia says about those events:
    In connection with the beginning of the armed conflict between China and Vietnam in late February 1979, the 137th airborne infantry regiment of the 106th airborne was transferred to Transbaikalia. It was decided to conduct exercises. In the area of ​​the Mongolian-Chinese border, an airborne landing was carried out from two aircraft: one with people (reconnaissance company, mechanics — drivers and regiment officers), the second with three BMDs. The earth had a strong wind (up to 40 m / s), and as a result of the ejection 15 people were killed, the rest were injured of varying severity. All 3 BMD crashed. After landing from the first two aircraft, the exercises were canceled. The paratroopers who remained without support had to survive another day in the Mongolian desert. Back to the base, the 137th pdp was returning by rail

    Comdiv Podkolzin (future commander of the Airborne Forces) for this was awarded the Order of the KZ.
  44. -1
    27 November 2013 04: 53
    They were opposed by the Vietnamese people's army in the amount of about 100 thousand soldiers.


    Oh, these women are military specialists. Size is for clothes and shoes, etc.
    1. +1
      27 November 2013 05: 57
      kush62
      Come on you find fault, for a woman the article is surprisingly competent .... although looking at the few, but outstanding girls of the site :))) is not surprising.
  45. +2
    27 November 2013 06: 07
    February 21, 1979 my son was born! They promised to send me home to my small homeland, where my wife was. And then this stupid war. It all started somehow casually. Now they would say escalation. Me on the submarine and in the South China Sea. I saw my son when he was eight months old! That's how the Chinese slipped the "podlyuchku"! But in those days, the balance of forces could not be compared, and therefore no one doubted the outcome of the war. This is now thanks to Smerdyukov and Medvedev! We tried to "reform" the army. Around "friends" only rub their hands!
  46. Professorenok
    +2
    27 November 2013 18: 41
    Vietnamese and now respect the Russians, Ukrainians. I know what I'm saying.
    1. soldier's grandson
      0
      27 November 2013 23: 47
      it is true, the Chinas will be much more arrogant
  47. +1
    28 November 2013 02: 34
    Quote: smile
    lewerlin53rus
    Also did not know about the scale of our actions. It was surprising that we, it seems, the only time in history that actually appeared on the international scene side by side with Taiwan ... By the way, the fact that Taiwan blundered something against the United States is generally unprecedented, they were horrified by the fact that the Americans they can be handed over to the Chinese. :)))

    Taiwan is the Kuomintang. And this means the heir to the Chinese Empire and its gold reserves. Until the early 20th century, China had 80% of the world's gold. Pay attention - Japan in the 30s of the 20th century invaded China first of all! During the years of occupation, the Japanese alone removed from China almost 9000 tons of gold and jewelry. 7 US destroyers stuffed with Kuomintang gold in 1938 were sent to New York to the US Federal Reserve for deposit (the Americans tried to persuade for a long time). And after the defeat in the civil war, where did the Kuomintang evacuate their gold reserves? That's right, to Taiwan. Is this the real reason for the Taiwan Economic Miracle? The National Museum of Taiwan displays the gold collection of the imperial family. According to experts, it changes every year and has never repeated itself in 66 years! That is the whole secret of "friendship" between the United States and Taiwan. Americans cannot allow Taiwan's gold to fall into the hands of the Chinese Communists.
  48. heroi2284
    0
    2 December 2013 00: 45
    On the morning of February 17, we were raised on a military alert (135 motorized rifle division, which fought on Damansky, Lesozavodsk, Primorsky Territory), then the alarm was canceled and the construction on the parade ground was announced, the division commander Katanaev told us that if Motherland orders we all will go to fight for the Vietnamese as one brothers. All vacation leave was canceled. I had to give leave on February 23rd, I was very dissatisfied with both the Chinese aggressors and the Vietnamese brothers. At that time I was a sergeant-castle of a separate platoon of communications. Well, and then a month we were almost out of the barracks During the entire training, the political officer collected applications from the children with a request to send them to Vietnam as a volunteer. 50 people wrote letters in the battalion, now I think how much foolish we had, the people barely made ends meet, in Primorye the stores were empty, one pollock from the backs ( canned food) yes Vietnamese rice vodka and their beer smelly. all the brothers sent everyone fed Africa black-assed, Cuba, India, eastern Europe. not to mention Vietnam and Mongolia. Seich As you think for what it was all about. Now the Chinese have invaded the whole of D. Vostok without war. But hundreds of thousands of people could die if not millions. Greetings to all who served then in the Far East and Transbaikail