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How and why the IAC and Transaero flooded the Russian sky with old airplanes




The tragedy of the plane of the company "Tatarstan" shook the whole society. The crash of the aircraft, whose age is 23 of the year, revived the discussion about the age limit of the purchased foreign aircraft. But as soon as a bill was passed to the State Duma banning the use of passenger planes older than 20 years, such a howl arose, as if we are talking about a ban on flying in general. Our Version decided to find out why in the country with great traditions of the aircraft industry today, most of the airlines fly to the junk of foreign production, which regularly falls. It turned out terrible: this can be to blame for all three parties - an international body, a government agency and a private company Transaero. And they are all related and business ties.

Transaero Airlines was founded on December 28 on 1990, when the collapse of the USSR and the economy were already running. Legal chaos, "that is not prohibited, it is allowed," the first cooperatives and gangsters ...

Ay pug, to know she is strong!

... in fact, the committee’s experts in the investigation of air accidents should decide whether their employer “messed up” when issuing an operator’s certificate. Is it any wonder that Russia has already become a world phenomenon: only in our plane crash pilots are almost always to blame ... It was then, in the 90s, that the most nimble and cynical people began to use their administrative resources to create their own business. It was then that the head of the technical department of the Ministry of Civil aviation USSR Tatyana Anodina realized that it was possible to create a private airline. Anodina from hereditary aviators: was born on April 16, 1939 in Leningrad in the family of a military pilot, she graduated from the Lviv Polytechnic Institute in 1961. At the Civil Aviation Research Institute, she went from a test engineer to a director. She is today the director of the State Research Institute of Air Navigation. The late husband (he died in 1987), Colonel General P.S. Pleshakov, being the Minister of Radio Industry of the USSR, greatly helped her in the first stage of her career. However, further, the “Iron Lady”, as they called her for her eyes, made her way through herself, albeit using her husband's connections and best practices. And not without success. “The ministers were afraid of her,” one of them once told the author of these lines.

They say that Anodina helped Mikhail Gorbachev to create Transaero, whom she was able to convince of the need to create a private airline. The new company was headed by the son of Anodina Alexander Pleshakov, now the chairman of the board of directors. And Olga Pleshakova, his wife, became the CEO. The very same Anodina became a shareholder of the company with 3% of the shares, despite the position of the head of the control and investigative body.

However, the start-up of a family company was not very impressive, or rather, absolutely none. No wonder the official birthday of the airline is considered to be 5 on November 1991 of the year, when on a leased plane, but under its own UN code, its first flight was made - a charter flight on the route Moscow - Tel Aviv - Moscow.

However, in the airline business, a real start-up Transaero is associated with a completely different event: the organization of the Interstate Aviation Committee (IAC) in 1991, headed by Tatyana Anodina. It was rumored that this appointment was a kind of compromise: an ambitious lady rushed to senior positions, and the officials who were afraid for their positions to throw her into the scandalous and ungrateful work of investigating aviation incidents seemed to be successful. However, the first thing Anodina, apparently, took up the creation of unprecedented preferences for their offspring - Transaero, using all their lobbying opportunities in the created IAC. And they were considerable.

I must say that the MAC is a very unusual design. Created in accordance with Presidential Decree 05.08.1992 No. 439, 23.04.1994 Government Decree 367 No. 07.04.1995 316, and the Agreement between the Government of the Russian Federation and the IAC on the conditions of his stay in 20.10.1995 RF, reorganize it today is almost impossible: for this you need to re-assemble the presidents of 11 of the CIS countries. At the same time, the powers of the committee are also unusual: the positions of the heads and employees of the IAC are equated and vested with the powers of the federal ministry, and the IAC decisions are binding on all the organs of Russia. The premises of the MAC and its property are inviolable. It does not apply the legislation of the Russian Federation. The property of the IAC, located on the territory of the Russian Federation, enjoys immunity in relation to search, requisition, expropriation, confiscation or other forms of judicial intervention. IAC is exempt from all taxes, fees, duties and other charges levied on the territory of the Russian Federation. (Certification of only one aircraft, carried out by the IAC, costs about 3 million dollars, lawyer Igor Trunov once noted). The chairman of the IAC and his deputies enjoy immunity, that is, “they are not subject to judicial responsibility for actions committed by them in the performance of their official duties”. Officials of the IAC in relation to themselves and their family members have diplomatic privileges and immunities that remain even after the termination of their service in the IAC. And so on.

At the same time, the international agreement on the basis of which the MAC was created, signed by the heads of the CIS countries in December 1991, should have been ratified by adopting a separate federal law, which is not available. In fact, the MAC for more than 10 years exists on a temporary basis, being an excellent illustration of the saying “There is nothing more permanent than temporary”.

In international practice, aviation accidents investigate national aviation authorities and supervisory authorities - for example, the FBI in the United States. IAC not only replaces these bodies with itself, but also conducts activities for certifying aircraft and their components, which is undoubtedly nonsense: in fact, experts of the committee during an investigation of aircraft accidents must decide whether their employer didn’t "issue" the operator’s certificate. Is it any wonder that Russia has already become a global phenomenon: it is only here that pilots are almost always at fault in plane crashes. However, more on that later.

The Untouchables

In our opinion, it is precisely the graciousness of the IAC that “did not prevent” the company from leaving behind the “imperceptible” people. Of course, Transaero has never had any problems obtaining an operator certificate for an aircraft of any age (and this played a fatal role for Russian aviation, about which a little later), the company has an amazing job! - impeccable история flights, although any experienced pilot will tell you that no airline lives without aviation, no less than exploiting outdated technology, as they say, in the tail and in the mane.

Supposedly due to her old connections in the Ministry of Civil Aviation and the high status of the IAC, Anodina was able to create a powerful lobby of Transaero interests in the Ministry of Transport and Rosaviation. The author of these lines remembered how, at that time, the Ministry of Transport honestly admitted that the Rosaviation didn’t get very involved in the affairs of the Ministry: in fact, the department retained its independence. However, the then Minister of Transport Sergey Frank himself supported the main ideas of Anodina.

It can be considered that due to the tacit approval of the ministry and the lobbying of IAC, “Transaero” began to receive the most “tasty” directions, including foreign ones. Companies whose reputation in the eyes of the global airline industry was not very high, managed to get routes that shouldn’t have to be at all - for example, on routes where bilateral agreements on national carriers operated.

In an effort to embrace the immensity, the company made a bid to expand its fleet on the principle of "a lot and cheap." Apparently the Ministry of Transport went to meet her and here: Transaero received unprecedented preferences for the purchase of old imported aircraft with the full support of the Ministry. And it became fatal for Russian aviation.

However, the administrative resource can not replace funding. Airlines had to buy planes, rent parking, pay for fuel. This is too much money for the family, the whole life associated with the public service. Where could they then come from?

It is worth remembering that Boris Berezovsky, responding to the questions of attorney Jonathan Sampshna during the famous court in London with Roman Abramovich, stated that he and Transaero owned the company together with Badri Patarkatsishvili and at the end of 1990's he had the intention to merge it and Aeroflot "Then to take offshore.

Berezovsky’s words are also confirmed by documents in the media. When Transaero first entered the debt market in 2004, it was forced to publish a list of shareholders. Then it was announced that 32,1% of the shares belong allegedly to firms that are affiliated with Berezovsky. Borey-2 CJSC controlled by LogoVAZ owned 15,47% of Transaero shares, Ratmir + CJSC - 4,93%. Another 11,7% belonged to the United Financial Corporation (FLC), founded by the scandalous Swiss company Andava Holding. In 1999, there were rumors in the market that structures affiliated with Berezovsky owned about 38% of shares. And when the High Court of London recognized that the actual ownership of property in Russia does not always coincide with the legal, introducing a new word into the world jurisdiction - krysha, they began talking in the market that the Anodina-Pleshakovs family could own Tranero in the interests of the disgraced oligarch. Berezovsky himself said that “he does not remember whether he has a stake in Transaero.

Old-fashioned Transaero in action

At the beginning of the 90's, Russian aviation was going through hard times. Air transportation of passengers fell catastrophically, many airplanes got amused, slowly rusting. In the middle of 90-x, the growth of passenger traffic began, accelerating to zero due to mass overseas tourism and the revitalization of inter-regional flights. But then the question arose where to take the aircraft.

At first, the airlines used a parked fleet: from two or three planes, it was possible they were assembling a new one. But it soon became clear that it could not continue so long: the stocks of airplanes are finite, and it is impossible to fly all my life on the old technology. But here the experts from aviation said their weighty word: you can, you can fly on the old ones! Only on ... old foreign aircraft.

We can assume that it was this idea, lobbied by that very “troika” - the IKA, the Ministry of Transport with Rosaviation and Transaero - that became the shovel that has been systematically bury the Russian aviation industry all these years. The Ministry of Transport and Rosaviatsiya assured the government that without imported second-hand aircraft, Russian aviation would not survive. IAC gave the nod to the operation of outright trash. And Transaero, taking advantage of cheaply purchased junk and profitable routes obtained through blat, grew as a balloon inflated by air, becoming the envy and example for other private airlines - they say it should be.

Judge for yourself: when it became known that since April 2006, in accordance with the 4th chapter of the Rules of the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), Russian aircraft will not be able to fly to Europe due to the fact that they will no longer comply with emission and noise standards, there were two ways ... The first is to change engines and avionics on Russian aircraft: cheap and fast. In addition, it was planned to do this with foreign companies, which made it possible to import advanced technologies. But not a single project was implemented - neither Aviastar with Rolls-Royce, nor Perm Motors with Pratt & Whitney. And all the funds allocated for this were actually wasted. But in 2004, the customs duty rate on imported used aircraft was reduced from 20 to 18%, and most importantly, it became possible to pay it in installments over 34 months. And the airlines stood in line for imported junk, striving to become "like Transaero."

At the same time, emissaries of countries getting rid of outdated equipment visited Russia often. For example, already in January of the same year, the Ministry of Transport of Germany sent a letter to the Russian Minister of Transport Sergey Frank proposing to replace the Tu-134 and Tu-154 aircraft operated by Russian airlines with MD-200 and Fokker-80 ships on 100. They are ready to be delivered within two years by Germania Fluggesellschaft (Germany) and Scandinavian Airlines Systems (SAS, Sweden), as well as aviation leasing company General Electric Capital Aviation Services (GECAS, USA). As independent experts noted at the time, such a number of aircraft would kill the aviation industry, as it would close down all the needs of airlines in the near future - the Ministry of Transport was not against ...

Amazing Adventures of "Africans" in Russia

It is worth noting that at that time only two airlines operated in Russia: Aeroflot and Transaero, which were exempted from paying customs duties and fees on the basis of government orders from 1994. Why such an exemption was received by Aeroflot is clear: being a national air carrier, the company was obliged to carry out foreign flights in accordance with bilateral agreements. Why benefits received "Transaero", which had no obligations on the routes, I think, is also clear: at this point, its warm relations with the IAC and the relevant department composed legends. However, they didn’t embellish reality: we believe that literally any wish from Transaero came to life as if it were an order from a higher authority.

But the most interesting is the conditions for exemption from duties! Aeroflot was limited by the number of liners imported on preferential terms - no more than 27 in the park. A "Transaero" - only a five-year period of benefits. However, in December 1999, the period of validity of benefits was extended for another five years. Ten years of duty-free importation for one of the private airlines against 27 ships for the national carrier is strong, isn't it? Interestingly, what would the Mintras, Rosaviatsia and the IAC say, the head of which Tatyana Anodina is simultaneously co-owner of Transaero?

However, no wonder there is a saying: "Not in a horse feed." Aeroflot has relied on the purchase of new aircraft, both imported and Russian SuperJet. Transaero has used the benefits for the purchase of cheap used Boeing. Result: today Aeroflot has one of the youngest aircraft fleets in Europe - the average age of 5,6 aircraft of the year. Transaero has one of the oldest aircraft fleets - 16,6 of the year. In the rating of the Bureau of Investigation of accidents on air transport (JACDEC) this is the biggest age.

But we remember, as we were assured: the age has nothing to do with the reliability of the aircraft? The main thing is to make repairs on time, so that there is a certificate ... Everything is so, and not quite. The devil, as always, in the details.

First of all, it should be said that in most civilized countries and decent airlines the age of airplanes does not exceed 10 years. Over 15 years, the average age of the air fleet is very small and specific to the air carriers. But even among them there are no ones whose average age of the fleet is more than 20 years, like dozens of Russian airlines.

Opponents of age-limited aircraft operation love to refer to the US experience: there is no rarity of a flying aircraft of 50 years of age. Indeed, Delta Air Lines, for example, has an average aircraft age close to Transaero - 16,7 years. However, upon closer inspection, it turns out that all these aircraft were operated by the group itself throughout its life. For example, in 1983, Delta received its first Boeing 767-200, which was paid for by voluntary contributions from employees, retirees and partners of the company. The plane remained the flagship fleet airlines until 2006, the last two years flying in a festive livery in honor of the 75th anniversary of the Delta. In 2006, the Boeing 737-300 were also decommissioned.

In general, it should be said that the following order was established in the world long ago. New planes are bought by discounters (they need to constantly keep the plane in the air, any repairs are a loss) and the largest air groups, having in their composition both low-cost regional carriers and premium carriers. After several years of operation, discounters resell their planes to airlines easier - of course, after a serious quality repair. Major airlines either sell their used airplanes to them, or transfer them to cheaper and less stressful routes. Of course, all this time, the aircraft is not only qualitatively operated, but also repaired qualitatively, which is reflected in the documents.

Now let us recall that the Boeing that fell in Kazan had previously undergone a difficult service in Bulgaria, Romania and even Uganda. Even if we assume that the Russian repairmen were up to par and in time carried out all the necessary repairs, that the inspectors from the IAC were picky and incorruptible, is it safe to say that the repairmen of Uganda screwed all the nuts right? Are there any documents on all repairs during these 23 years and are they true? That is the difference between American "old men" and Russian ones.

Killer numbers

The same situation is with Transaero's fleet. Thanks to the online base http://www.airfleets.net, which presents the history of all airlines, the journalists managed to find out the history of the planes purchased by her. It immediately became clear from whence such opposition to the bill submitted to the State Duma: more than a quarter of the Transaero fleet (24 operating 92 aircraft) are older than 20 years. This corresponds to the age of "Boeing-737", which crashed in Kazan. Moreover, the largest number of such aircraft in absolute terms refer specifically to the Boeing 737 model (11 of 43). There are also among Boeing 747 (4 of 22) and Boeing 767 (9 of 14). (See the top 10 most dangerous for passengers.)

Even more amazing things open up, if you ask, who bought the aircraft. First of all, it is striking that some liners were bought not from real sellers, but from unknown companies, which, in turn, owned this technique in a matter of weeks. In our opinion, there may be frauds on tax evasion when importing airplanes or falsifying materials about the condition of the aircraft, which allow selling goods that are used and endangered to the life of passengers without jeopardizing the reputation of participants in transactions.

Here, for example, Boeing 737 (No. MSN 23772). 26 years fly by and 3 of the month, Transaero 1 of May 2002 of the year was purchased from the Belgian company Sabena of 15 years by the Belgian company Sabena through a special company “gasket” UG, which acquired 4 of the year 2002 of the year and resold Transaero in two months and Transaero resold two months later.

Sometimes Ukrainian structures are used as “gaskets”. Boeing 737 (MSN 24355) 13 years operated by the Belgian Sabena, was sold to Air Ukraine, which bought the 3 airliner in May 2005 of the year and 1 in June of 2006, resold it to Transaero.

We believe that if it were any other Russian airline, its leadership would most likely have already spoken to the investigators. And in the case of Transaero, neither the IAC nor the Rosaviatsia seem to see anything questionable in such transactions.

A lot of old cars received "Transaero" from the third world with a very low culture of operation. Here, for example, Boeing 737 (MSN 24165), which made the first flight of 8 on May 1989 of the year. It was operated by Indian companies for seven years, 1 in July 2007 was bought by Serbian JAT Airways. Her leadership took five months to realize that the car must be sold somewhere. And 1 December of the same year, the plane bought Transaero. Now this liner is already 24 of the year and 5 months.

Boeing 737 (MSN 24904) made the first flight of 18 on January 1991 of the year, 10 was operated by Turkish Turkish Airlines for years, from there 14 of February of 2001 of the year went to Hungarian MALEV, 6 of May of 2004 of the year was sold to Transaero. The plane still carries passengers, its age - 22, 8 months.

Boeing-737 (MSN 25183 and MSN 25188) were bought in China, made the first flights of February 14 and March 12 of 1992 of the year, 10 of February and 12 of January 2007 of the year began to operate as Transaero liners. The Chinese have decided that 15 is enough years for a passenger plane, Transaero is enough for its passengers. Now the operation time of each aircraft exceeds the 21 year, Transaero is still actively using them.

Boeing 747 (MSN 26637) was bought, having managed to fly 15 for years. From October 27 1992 to December 20 2007, the plane was in South Africa, the main part of this period - after the fall of the white minority and the beginning of the reign of the black majority with general chaos, rising crime, reduced infrastructure and an increase in the number of aviation accidents. But even the new owners of South Africa were able to understand that it was time to sell the car with it. And they sold it to Transaero.

South Africa also bought three other Boeing 747 airplanes: MSN 26638 (flew in Africa from October 5 1993 on December 12 to 2008 on the year 29119 of 30 of the year in Africa) and MSN 1998 on November 17 on November 2012 in Africa. 28960 (in Africa from 30 December 1998 of the year to 30 December 2010).

The history of Boeing 747 (MSN 28959) is particularly impressive. His 10 years, from 30 December 1998-th to 1 September 2008, used South Africa, then the car went to very poor and wild Angola, where they still fire, and in less than two years, 10 June 2010, already bought the ship in Angola Transaero.

There are more “creepy sides”, such as Boeing 767 (MSN 23623), which made the first flight of 12 on November 1991 of the year. He flew first to Brunei (Royal Brunei Airlines), after which he worked for a long time in Ethiopia ravaged by civil war (Ethiopian Airlines) and only in the 2004 year, after 13 years of terrible operating conditions in Africa, was it bought by Transaero.

Boeing 737 (MSN 25062) was operated by 22, 6 months, managed to work in Senegalese Air Senegal International, the Africans refused the aircraft, and the owners of Transaero and 7 in May 2007, sent the first flight. For comparison: the Boeing crashed in Kazan was exploited in Brazil and Uganda, and already after poor Uganda, it was taken by the airline Tatarstan.

There are also combined options. For example, Boeing 737 (MSN 24519) made the first flight of 2 in October 1989 of the year and, having reached the corresponding state after 11 years of operation by Cayman Airways (Cayman Islands) and Istanbul Airlines (Turkey), was sold by the Turkish FSB gaskets and Royal Airways, implementation through which allowed to avoid responsibility for failures emerging with time. The Turks managed to shoot the battered car to the Irish from Skynet Airlines. Those suffered with it for a year and a half, but 20 August 2004, they were lucky - they resold it "Transaero". Where the plane flies so far with the total lifetime 24 of the year and 2 of the month.

Sometimes Transaero exploits cars that more developed countries are trying to get rid of. Here is the Boeing 737 (MSN 25037): its second last owner, the German TUIfly, used the plane only from January 15 to July 1 of the year 2007. Then she sold Transaero. Neither the airline nor the IAC did not embarrass the German picky, and now this airliner has been operating in Russia, having flown a total of 22 of the year 7 months.

Boeing-747 (MSN 24019) was purchased by Transaero from Japan Airlines, which flew 21 on it exactly a year, from February 19 1988 to February 19 on 2009. Boeing 747 (MSN 23482) flew from the same Japanese the same 21 year, from 15 April 1986 of the year to 17 of August 2008, and was bought by the same Transaero. Boeing 767 (MSN 23899) carries Russians from 12 September 2003, and before that 16 carried passengers for US State Airways, US Air and Piedmont.

The list goes on, but the principle is clear. Transaero buys airplanes, of which only one thing can be said: “For you, God, that we are not fit.” At the same time, neither the IAC nor the Rosaviatsiya is embarrassed that even not very developed countries are happy to get rid of these airliners, so to say: no complaints about the condition of the aircraft appear, they will receive airworthiness certificates without any problems. There are no high-profile claims to deal schemes using “gaskets”.

But that's not all.

In Transaero, a sufficiently large number of old aircraft is being mothballed. What does this mean? In principle, many airlines put on preservation aircraft that are not currently in use. But usually we are talking about airplanes, which simply do not have a place in the sky because of the worsened conjuncture, but the airline hopes that this is a temporary break. However, in this case we are not usually talking about 30-year-olds! Three such 1982 release models have been mothballed by Transaero: Boeing 747-219B (22725 number, purchased in 2006 from Air Pacific from Fiji), Boeing 747-219B (22791 number, purchased in 2005 from Malaysian Malaysia) and Boeing 747-267B (22872 number, purchased in 2006 from Indonesian Garuda Indonesia).

A little better and Boeing 767-216 (ER) (23623 number) 1986 of the year, bought in 2002 year in war-ravaged Salvador (previously it was also used in Chile). In Chile, the second one of the same Boeing (24973 number) 1990 was bought at the same time.

Why does Transaero also have this blatant trash? After all, it is not difficult to see that we are talking not only of old airplanes, but also of mountains, oceanic islands and subtropical monsoons that were used in very unfavorable conditions, such as Boeing 737-5Y0 (46712 number) 1991 of the year of production, acquired by 2006 in the year Chinese China Southern Airlines, was disassembled. Like McDonnell Douglas DC-10-30 from Chile 1973 (!) Year of manufacture (No. 46712).

Why buy 'killed' planes and take them apart? It seems to use them for parts - as they used at the beginning of the 90-s of a huge fleet from the USSR. But only then this crazy practice was stopped, and now nobody cares. You can put the item with age more than the age of the aircraft - and say that after that he became “as good as new”! Of course, if the IAC agrees with this and gives an operator certificate without any questions ...

Why are there "how" - one of the apologists of the IAC after the tragedy in Kazan agreed even to the point that the 11-year-old plane is even newer than the 9-year-old, because in the 10-year-old age there was an overhaul with the replacement of parts with new ones. This expert on a Transaero aircraft, repaired with details from a 40-year-old “donor” ...

One of the bloggers noted that if the airline’s website had listed its age, the previous owners, the number of repairs and technical problems, the number of passengers would have significantly diminished on the airline’s flight information page. Alas, most often the Russian passengers can judge the condition of the aircraft, only by going to its cabin. And they may never know about technical problems and even accidents: the announcement of the delay of the aircraft “for technical reasons” and even “due to the weather” can mean anything: from a serious problem to non-flying weather. It may be worthwhile to adopt the practice, for example, Air France, when the true reason for the delay is not concealed from passengers. Moreover, they explain how exactly they are going to deal with it and in what time frame. The French believe that in this way they remove the fears of passengers - after all, they are reasonable people. Maybe we should admit that Russian citizens are no worse than French?

Version of the MAC: the pilot is always wrong?

In Russia, as already mentioned, the human factor in aviation accidents has an exorbitantly large share: if it is 50% all over the world, then in Russia it is 80%. It should be noted that in other countries it most often accompanies other problems: pilot error and adverse weather conditions, technical malfunction or aircraft defect, unacceptable aerodrome conditions, controller error, etc. In the CIS, the results of an IAC investigation are most often standard: the plane before the flight was technically sound, the only pilot error was the cause of the accident.

The author of these lines was once specifically interested in flight safety experts, pilots and air service services - in this connection, what about the CIS getting out of world statistics? Most looked away or hotly assured that all this is because we are unique. But experts independent of the IAC honestly admitted that the pilot’s mistake was the same truth, which is worse than deception.

Imagine, they explained, that you were driving a broken-down old car. Handbrake does not hold, brake pads erased, tires "bald." How much higher is the probability that, for example, on ice will carry you - compared to a normal car? Much higher. Thanks to skill and luck, you can get out of this incident safe and sound. And you can not get out - if you make a mistake in emergency management. What will be the direct cause of the accident? That's right - a driver error. And what will be the real, original reason? The condition of the car, which, in an amicable way, only travels around the yard on a clear dry summer day at a speed of no more than 20 kilometers per hour. But the verdict of the experts about the driver’s error will be absolutely correct. According to the form.

Exactly the same thing and in the Russian aircraft, the expert continues. Of course, we have a shortage of experienced pilots, pilots training is lame, many airfields are poorly equipped, and the climatic conditions are severe. But if the planes were not old junk, if they were not repaired often with counterfeit parts, if the technical condition was monitored in full, then the pilots simply could not be mistaken so often.

And today, when the passengers of the crashed plane unanimously say that his condition already when flying from Kazan to Moscow was terrible, and the IAC in response - that the plane was in perfect order, I recall this explanation. After all, even now, after the fall of Boeing 737-500 in Kazan, whose age exceeded 23 of the year, Russian aviation experts began again to assert that age had nothing to do with it. They are supported by the preliminary conclusion of the IAC: the aircraft systems worked fine, the pilot himself for no reason sent the plane to the second round, and then he took it and sent the car to the peak. Pilots - they are unpredictable. And the MAC is just a visionary, if it publishes such preliminary detention two days after the crash, when the voice recorder for some reason was not found in the “black box”, and the first messages referring to the dispatchers contained the words “we have a non-landing configuration, we will not sit ".

And I believe that the main “pilot error” is the unification in the hands of the IAC of the oversight of aircraft serviceability and the investigation of plane crashes. And the main problem of the Russian airline business, in our opinion, is the possible kinship and business ties between Rosaviatsia, the IKA and Transaero, in which Ms. Anodina directly owns, despite all reasonable notions, 3% of shares. Because it was Transaero that set the fashion for old airplanes in Russia. And the Rosaviation and the IAC in a certain sense consecrated this fashion with their authority.

Price of immortality

Something similar was at one time in the automotive industry, when imported trash 20-year-old was massively imported into the country. And let these cars have on the move to fall off the bridge or “cover up” the motor - citizens were happy with the power steering and heated seats, unthinkable in the monsters of the Soviet automobile industry. The irony of fate: today these foreign cars have been at the dump for a long time, and their peers of the Quartet and the Five still feed the numerous visitors of the bombed. The ease of taxiing and the softness of the seats were not the main criteria for durability ...

Nevertheless, the government had enough determination to put an end to imported auto junk, and now there is an offensive on Soviet longevity monsters. Although the same "bombili" claim that it is only here and there to fasten, lubricate, tie up with a string and "just like a new car, wah!". However, road safety is still more important, the authorities decided. And this is absolutely correct.

Why is the situation in the airline business different? Where are the conversations that age does not matter?

I have to admit: the whole thing is greed. And in cronyism. Transaero received unprecedented benefits for the purchase of foreign aircraft duty free - by the way, this benefit will end only in 2014 year! But instead of using this inconceivable benefit for the purchase of modern airliners, the company bought on a cheap basis a bunch of old equipment, from which even the third world countries were being disposed of. But the Ministry of Transport and the Federal Air Transport Agency did not hinder this at all. And the IAC has consecrated with the names of its experts the statement that the old in Russia has the properties of Koshchey the Immortal - to live forever.

As a result, the majority of Russian airlines went down this route. And Russia actually lost the aviation industry. And now it is losing space, and military aviation is next in line, since all these three sectors are interconnected vessels in terms of design and technical. But Russian designers are now working on Boeing. He is pleased.

Another sad consequence of this decision: the majority of Russian companies are candidates for being blacklisted by the EU. There are companies recognized by them unsafe. And this means a ban to fly to EU countries.

But the worst thing is that because of this decision today people are dying in Russia. The safety factor of SAFA flights, one of the most revered in the world, for most Russian airlines is more than 1 (and Aeroflot with its young fleet has 0,6 – 0,7). For comparison: in Austria, Germany, the Netherlands, Finland, the coefficient is 0,4 – 0,6. European average - 0,9, in these figures fit even Bulgaria and Ukraine.

According to the international independent organization Aviation Safety Network (ASN), Russia is in second place after the United States in the number of aircraft crashes that have occurred since 1945 to the present day. And if you take the results by year, then in 2011 and 2012 years, our country held the first place in terms of the number of people killed in plane crashes. Given that in the States of air travel is carried out in dozens, if not hundreds of times more than in Russia.

IATA’s data on the number of crashes of scheduled flights per million flights over 2011 a year are even more vivid: according to this indicator, we are world leaders. For Russia and the CIS countries it is 8,19 per million, for African countries - 6,17, for North America - 1,33. Think about it: in terms of the number of accidents in passenger aviation, we have overtaken even everlasting and impoverished Africa!

Here it is - the real price statement "age does not count"

Even now, after the tragedy in Kazan, when Rosaviatsia, represented by its head Alexander Neradko, stated that she favored introducing in Russia restrictions on the use of airplanes by age, the IAC, in an uncharacteristic emotional manner, demanded to stop talking about the age of airplanes, repeating his mantra: "The main thing for safety is the airworthiness of the aircraft, not its age." Having forgotten to remind you that he himself confirms airworthiness, which means that it is from him that one would have to ask why fully operational aircraft fall in Russia. It is clear that Anodina decided to defend her family shop with all her might.

But the current situation is clearly contrary to state interests - after all, our country cannot afford to risk the lives of fellow citizens. It is time to stop. And as soon as possible. The situation is clearly intolerable and not in the interests of the state. Here, the State Duma adopted a bill to ban the operation of passenger aircraft over 20 years - is only the first step. It is still worth to deal with the amazing policy of Rosaviatsii, the phenomenal powers of the IAC and the strange preferences of Transaero. As with the dubious links between them from any point of view. Otherwise, our planes will all fall, the pilots will be wrong, and the passengers will die.

Source of information: electronic publication "Aloud - Digest"

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Top 10 most dangerous for passengers of Transaero aircraft

Model

MSN

First flight

Age

Data

The profile

Boeing 767

25346

12.11.91

22

6 years in Brunei, 7 years in Ethiopia ravaged by civil war

http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b767-25346.htm

Boeing 767

23623

16.05.86

27,5

7 years in Chile, 9 years in civil war-ravaged Salvador

http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b767-23623.htm

Boeing 747

28959

15.05.98

15,5

10 years in South Africa, 2 years in impoverished Angola

http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b747-28959.htm

Boeing 737

25062

25.04.91

22,6

16 years of operation in Germany, Greece, Senegal

http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b737-25062.htm

Boeing 747

26637

27.10.92

21,1

15 years in South Africa

http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b747-26637.htm

Boeing 747

26638

01.09.93

20,2

15 years in South Africa

https://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b747-26638.htm

Boeing 737

23772

12.08.87

26,3

15 years operated in Belgium, after which it was written off and purchased through the "gasket" UG

http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b737-23772.htm

Boeing 737

24165

08.05.89

24,5

years in India(Sahara India Airlines и Jet Airways). Then I bought the Serbian JAT Airways, which, because of the condition of the aircraft, chose to sell it via 5 months after the purchase.

http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b737-24165.htm

Boeing 737

25183

30.01.92

21,8

15 years in China - the Chinese because of the condition of the aircraft sold

http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b737-25183.htm

Boeing 737

24519

15.09.89

24,2

13 years in the Cayman Islands and in Turkey, then in the company FSB

http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b737-24519.htm

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  1. Ihrek
    Ihrek 26 November 2013 07: 49
    -2
    The problem is not only in old aircraft, but also in unskilled pilots.
    1. Denis
      Denis 26 November 2013 08: 13
      32
      Quote: Jamal
      The problem is not only in old aircraft, but also in unskilled pilots.
      Old-old Tu-154 bad pilots were put on an unprepared runway. Passengers were evacuated, and after repair it took off
      One announcer said something about the accident, like Soviet planes are so old that they fall apart. She is familiar with aviation only by helicopter, the gynecological chair is so called. That the planes were made with such a safety margin that they could take off in case of war from unpaved .But what you need to buy abroad yelped
      Not in technology, but in control, the whole thing
      1. Canep
        Canep 26 November 2013 08: 29
        +9
        In the 90s, people preferred to fly on old Watermelons or Boeings, rather than on the new 86s. If there are 2 flights on the schedule, one IL-86 and another A-300, the New IL had every chance of flying half empty. And it doesn’t matter that rivets are pouring from Watermelon, and that he is 20 years old and he used to fly in hot spots in Africa.
        1. Mareman Vasilich
          Mareman Vasilich 26 November 2013 10: 29
          21
          And this is not a problem with IL-86 or even A-300, it is a problem of anarchy and rampant liberalism. People uncontrollably bombarded the brain with the theme that everything is domestic, and imported almost from God. Soviet aircraft were of excellent quality. Just foolish people disguised as comfort under the guise of quality.
        2. washi
          washi 26 November 2013 12: 33
          +8
          Quote: Canep
          In the 90s, people preferred to fly on old Watermelons or Boeings, rather than on the new 86s. If there are 2 flights on the schedule, one IL-86 and another A-300, the New IL had every chance of flying half empty. And it doesn’t matter that rivets are pouring from Watermelon, and that he is 20 years old and he used to fly in hot spots in Africa.

           Mareman Vasilich  Today, 10:29 ↑ New
          And this is not a problem with IL-86 or even A-300, it is a problem of anarchy and rampant liberalism. People uncontrollably bombarded the brain with the theme that everything is domestic, and imported almost from God. Soviet aircraft were of excellent quality. Just foolish people disguised as comfort under the guise of quality.

          The actual comfort was no different, but on the "foreign" sides they were still poured for free. Naturally free drinks were appreciated.
          Now the service even in one company on different lines is different.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 26 November 2013 14: 53
            +3
            Quote: Vasya
            The actual comfort was no different, but on the "foreign" sides they were still poured for free.

            Only if the carrier was also foreign. A little later they poured on our ILs. In the 90s, people had a stable stereotype about the superiority of FIRM over Scoop.
        3. nov_tech.vrn
          nov_tech.vrn 26 November 2013 13: 20
          11
          in those same years, a Lianozovo company named Wimm-Bill-Dann carefully concealed Russian roots and only in the zero words Lianozovo and Russia appeared, how many chemical products like Yuppy or margarine from the Baltic states of Rama were sold under the magic spells of our advertising and imposed postulates that all foreign, tasty and healthy? I hope we at least know how to learn from our mistakes, although it would be better to learn from strangers.
      2. Ihrek
        Ihrek 26 November 2013 09: 27
        +5
        Denis. Who said all the pilots are bad.
        Yes, in Izhma our pilots showed the highest class, everyone would be such pilots, then there are no questions. But not all pilots are like that, I’m sorry but I don’t understand your logic.
        1. Denis
          Denis 26 November 2013 12: 41
          +4
          Quote: Jamal
          Your logic is sorry but not clear
          Control, the strictest control over the state of technology and crew skills
          As it was at Aeroflot
      3. AVV
        AVV 26 November 2013 10: 25
        11
        To disperse these family shops, like Transaero, the former patrimony of Berezovsky, Poppy divided into two structures, one that issues certificates of validity, and the other controls flight safety and most importantly, changes the entire management team. And even better, create similar, but new structures! And passengers need to vote in rubles and don’t buy Transaero tickets until this company changes its fleet to a new one !!! And DAM, get rid of the air junk, how to get rid of the auto junk imported into Russia and introduce a tax rate increasing from the age of the imported aircraft, and force old planes to be insured with increased rate !!!
        1. Denis
          Denis 26 November 2013 12: 46
          +5
          Quote: AVV
          DAM u get rid of air junk
          To get rid?
          After the Tu-134 disaster near Petrozavodsk, where 100% crew error, he blurted out that we would get rid of them (Tu-134)
          And we’ll get trash, I didn’t say so I thought
      4. Basarev
        Basarev 26 November 2013 16: 58
        0
        But nevertheless, technology plays a role - if a plane has been flying in Africa for many years in a row, then only an accident can fly it accidentally. Despite the fact that the same plane, but even a young beginner can easily pilot it
        1. Denis
          Denis 26 November 2013 17: 37
          0
          Quote: Basarev
          the plane flew for many years
          The expression of one pilot:
          Cars are working or malfunctioning, they have no age
          I heard that
        2. VAF
          VAF 26 November 2013 19: 54
          +4
          Quote: Basarev
          But still technology plays a role


          Your opinion is erroneous. if the technical maintenance plane is correct, then any PILOT TRAINED on this type can pilot it (and not the navigator retrained on the simulator, and even more so the flight engineer, everyone should do their own thing).
          If the plane is aged, then according to "unofficial" laws, it should be treated like ... to age, everything is exactly the same as for people !!!
      5. Oleg14774
        Oleg14774 26 November 2013 17: 17
        +3
        Yes, you remember Soviet planes with sadness, but these are potential bombers (Tu 134 and Tu154). We love to screw up everything, considering everything that is impotent, just "hurt"! We are surprised at the miracle of Holland, New Zealand, and many discussions why we have yours not as we would like !? And people are talented and hard workers (for such a salary, no European will even go to work), and everything is full!
        The answer is simple, the top is trashy with us! And not the one that is visible, but the one that is real! To put the gray cardinals against the wall, and "reorient" those corrupt sixes in the government and in the Duma on the right tracks. And then the laws will be correct and everyone will be honest! Change the conceptual power that governs the ideology that shapes the behavior of the legislative, executive and judicial branches!
    2. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 26 November 2013 09: 16
      12
      To change the situation in civil aviation, the political will of the supreme power of the state, in the person of the President, the Government and the State Duma, is necessary.
      The privatization of state civil aviation under the Aeroflot brand must be admitted to be wrong. Nationalize the existing air campaigns, create on their basis the state corporation of Civil Aviation, with the allocation of all the necessary finances and benefits to it to recreate the CIVIL AVIATION SYSTEM, which includes air transport companies, repair plants, educational and scientific base from scientific research institutes, universities, schools, training detachments; aircraft certification inspection according to international standards, accident investigation bodies with equal participation of representatives of the aviation industry.
      Prior to the nationalization of air campaigns, pass a law banning the operation of foreign aircraft older than 20 years.
      Without reconstructing the state’s civil aviation system, Russia cannot fix the catastrophic situation in ensuring flight safety.
      If this is not done, air accidents in Russia will occur more and more often.
      The death of people for the benefit of the owners of air campaigns cannot be allowed.
      1. Papakiko
        Papakiko 26 November 2013 13: 09
        -2
        Quote: vladimirZ
        Prior to the nationalization of air campaigns, pass a law banning the operation of foreign aircraft older than 20 years.

        Minkherz, this is liberalistic populism!
        Each aircraft product has a resource in m. Hours (raids) and the number of take-offs and landings.
        How much can a waffle fly over 10 years in terms of flying hours (takeoffs and landings), what were the malfunctions and malfunctions (this data should be fixed in the bill) indicating acceptable / unacceptably critical.
        As well as a list of offices from which you can buy used wafers (there are a maximum of a dozen of them), make a list of the law.
        Everything else is not only for transporting passengers or goods, but even in the airspace.
        I think VAF agree with me.
        Personally, I do not enjoy the squeezed see on the passenger seat in bourgeois planes, osschuschivat myself like sprat in a bank. And flying in "business class" is not very cheap.
        Even sekasa rejoice at the time of the flight is not received!
        Ehhhh and so romantic and memorable!
        And in the USSR boards it can easily be done.
        Quote: vladimirZ
        The privatization of state civil aviation under the Aeroflot brand must be admitted to be wrong. Nationalize existing air campaigns

        WhoZHZHZH will now give the "pie"?
        That Komrad speaks correctly.
        Quote: AVV
        Poppy divided into two structures, one that issues certificates of validity, and the other controls flight safety and most importantly, change the entire management team

        But the allotment will be created by the SRO and we will be grateful to the DG and the "confused".
        1. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 26 November 2013 13: 26
          +4
          Great deals vladimirZ ! But who will start doing this? Who will give such pieces of cake and most importantly, who will give (allocate) money for the implementation of this program?
          There are probably so many ties and feeding people that the issue could be solved only by the NKVD methods!
          Although, how many people died in post-Soviet times, that’s the only way to solve it!
          1. Basarev
            Basarev 26 November 2013 17: 14
            0
            Only Stalinist methods will save the aviation industry
        2. VAF
          VAF 26 November 2013 15: 07
          +1
          Quote: Papakiko
          I think VAF agree with me.


          + !! drinks
        3. Basarev
          Basarev 26 November 2013 17: 13
          0
          Well, in the country, absolutely everything foreign should be banned - not just air transport. And for many years and decades to invest hundreds of lard in the domestic producer, taking all domestic production to maintain the state, as it was in the USSR. And to nationalize absolutely everything that is in the state without any compensation to the owners. And these owners, all this oligarchy - to exile to Siberia - let the stolen lards work out. Property and assets - confiscation, both domestically and abroad - do not leave anything. All this property and income from nationalized industries and holdings - to the treasury - then hundreds of lards will appear for the maintenance of domestic producers
          1. faraon
            faraon 26 November 2013 18: 01
            0
            Reading Basarev your comments every time I remember a joke.

            Putin invited Abramovich to his Kremlin, and tells him.
            Roma, I see you are a patriot of Russia, you have done a lot for her,
            your contributions to the development of Chukotka have no price, only a Russian patriot could do that.
            We consulted here and decided to give you a bonus.
            Call any amount.
            well, Abramovich was embarrassed, began to disobey, Putin sees his confusion, takes out a checkbook, writes out a check for 250 million rubles, and hands Abramovich with words of gratitude, they say Roma, thank you for the bigger check, but but the rest needs to be returned.

            What you proposed ideally is excellent, but we have already passed it. Nationalization. Collectivization, privatization. We know what offshore is, and schoolchildren probably already know how to transfer money abroad.

            This will not save. A good domestic producer is needed, and not one, healthy competition is needed. And the main thing is that they would not be temporary workers (chopped cabbage on the light and on a hill), but those who will develop their industry, then the rockets will fly, ships will sail, and airplanes will not fall.
      2. max702
        max702 26 November 2013 16: 02
        +3
        Then it is necessary to restore order throughout the country in all sectors, production, science, education, as well as in finance, the Moscow Region, the Ministry of Health and in a host of other areas, because everything is interconnected and this is called State Policy. how it all happens today we see and know ..
      3. Basarev
        Basarev 26 November 2013 17: 04
        0
        In general, it is time to eradicate the monopoly of aircraft in air travel. An airship is the transport of the future! But it should be understood that the airship is different. The country needs huge Tsiolkovsky airships, all-metal, all-metal. And the country does not need motor balloons with a bed for the entire gondola and advertising on a miserable film membrane
      4. Oleg14774
        Oleg14774 26 November 2013 17: 29
        0
        Quote: vladimirZ
        To change the situation in civil aviation, the political will of the supreme power of the state, in the person of the President, the Government and the State Duma, is necessary.

        My koment about the government and its political will!
    3. Mareman Vasilich
      Mareman Vasilich 26 November 2013 10: 24
      +1
      At this stage, this is still a moot point. Yes there are bad pilots, but this is not mass.
      1. Papakiko
        Papakiko 26 November 2013 13: 17
        +1
        Quote: Mareman Vasilich
        Yes there are bad pilots, but this is not mass.

        Where did you get that bad pilots?
        Do you think fucking kamikaze control aircraft?
        1. VAF
          VAF 26 November 2013 15: 09
          +1
          Quote: Papakiko
          Where did you get that bad pilots?


          The term, of course, is not correct - not prepared at the proper level, so to speak soldier
          1. Papakiko
            Papakiko 26 November 2013 16: 37
            0
            Quote: vaf
            not prepared at the proper level, so to speak

            Sergey.
            If these 20-year-old remixes on the honest word fly, then everything depends on the degree of preparedness of the pilots exactly in the lower belt.
            Plane crash in Perm on September 14, 2008 - a Boeing 737-500 passenger airliner of Aeroflot Nord crashed
            The aircraft commander, Rodion Medvedev, had a total flight time of 3689 hours (most of the flight hours were on the Tu-134), of which 452 were on the "baton".
            The Boeing 737-500 aircraft (reg. Number VP-BKO, factory number 25792) was launched in September 1992, previously operated by the Chinese airlines Xiamen Airlines, China Southwest Airlines, Air China. Aeroflot-Nord was leased for the period from July 28, 2008 to March 21, 2013. Lessor - Pinewatch Limited (Ireland. The owner of the ship at the time of the disaster was ARN 737 Limited, Bermuda.
            In July 2012, the criminal case was again dismissed due to the death of a person subject to criminal prosecution.
            The ends in the water are called.
            The most important thing is in Mayakovsky’s poems:
            Listen to this!
            After all, if the stars are lit -
            means - it is necessary for someone?
            So - someone wants them to be?

            Another "Pshekovsky" board number 1 can be recalled on April 10, 2010.
            Or, as "brothers-Slavs" on October 4, 2001 on the Black Sea shot down Tu-154, tail number 85693, of Siberia Airlines.
            Who were the passengers in all cases, what "gray ears" can be seen behind each tragedy?
    4. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 26 November 2013 11: 56
      +2
      Interestingly, board number "ONE", also before that in Uganda or Congo flew for several years?
    5. washi
      washi 26 November 2013 12: 24
      +4
      Quote: Jamal
      The problem is not only in old aircraft, but also in unskilled pilots.

      And who ditched the pilot training system? Maybe the same airlines that did not want to invest in their training at schools and institutes, and now offer to allow permission to hire foreigners?
      I do not want to fly a plane in which the crewman is an Arab, or an Afghan.
    6. Grandson of Veteran
      Grandson of Veteran 26 November 2013 13: 07
      +4
      "The problem is not only with old aircraft, but also with unskilled pilots."
      The problem is HOW and WHERE these aircraft are serviced and WHO is piloting them. The most sophisticated Mercedes can be brought to the state of "Tata", if you put a kettle on it, arrange a run of 100 thousand km. without maintenance, and then serve in the garage using used or "made in china" spare parts.
    7. alone
      alone 26 November 2013 18: 54
      0
      But as soon as a bill was introduced in the State Duma banning the use of passenger aircraft older than 20 years, a howl rose as if it was a ban on flying at all. Our Version decided to find out why in a country with great aircraft manufacturing traditions, today most of the airlines fly to foreign junk, which regularly falls.


      Just take and carry out an inventory of all civilian airliners that are registered with airlines, announce% of airliners that are over 20 years old and understand why companies raised such a howl)) It is clear that for sure 60-70% of airliners are more than 20 years old. update all this, you need a lot of money. do companies need this? what
  2. Volodya Sibiryak
    Volodya Sibiryak 26 November 2013 07: 56
    12
    Well, of course, the pilots are to blame for everything, there’s no demand from the dead ...
    1. Mareman Vasilich
      Mareman Vasilich 26 November 2013 10: 35
      +2
      to the very point, the answer to all questions of this type. Even! they are to blame, they have already answered. But who else will answer for this, because the problem is so serious that some pilots cannot solve it in principle.
  3. Edward72
    Edward72 26 November 2013 08: 02
    10
    I have long noticed that if the crew died, the pilots were to blame, if they survived, then the equipment failed. Yes, and it’s not at all clear why to buy old stuff if you have your own aircraft factories. So someone needs this ...
    1. avant-garde
      avant-garde 26 November 2013 08: 13
      +8
      Quote: Edward72
      So someone needs this ...

      it is necessary for those who, on deaths and human grief, make themselves a fortune ...
      1. Mareman Vasilich
        Mareman Vasilich 26 November 2013 10: 37
        +4
        These are the results of the "Gaidar-Chubais and Companies" reforms, and the authorities do nothing to change the situation.
        1. washi
          washi 26 November 2013 12: 44
          +2
          Quote: Mareman Vasilich
          These are the results of the "Gaidar-Chubais and Companies" reforms, and the authorities do nothing to change the situation.

          And let's cancel the privatization of airline companies. Given the registration of most aircraft in offshore, we will be left without air services.
          Do you remember the problems in Domodedovo, when after the terrorist attack they could not find the owners?
          In the beginning, you need to clean up your finances.
          I hope the latest scandals with banks will not be the last.
          Then find the actual owners.
          Then find a pretext for prosecution.
          Then the nationalization of the shares that can be seized in court.
          Long process. And you all at once.
          Unfortunately, this is not 1937 in our country, and other laws apply.
          And you yourself will speak out against lawlessness.
          1. Basarev
            Basarev 26 November 2013 17: 18
            0
            Personally, I will only be for such lawlessness. And I will not refuse to participate in it. Extreme situations require extreme measures
        2. kaktus
          kaktus 26 November 2013 16: 08
          +1
          As the classic said: "There were worse times, but there was no meaner ..." angry
    2. Denis
      Denis 26 November 2013 08: 29
      0
      Quote: Edward72
      So someone needs this ...
      There were scandals when aircraft manufacturers paid bribes to the leadership of countries to buy their products
      That is not with us, we have not yet been caught, they do not want to, with
  4. drop
    drop 26 November 2013 08: 14
    +3
    Thank you, everything is laid out correctly. I would also add how the opportunity to acquire Swedish air traffic control systems instead of domestic ones was making its way. It is necessary to lobby for the installation of only domestic avionics in domestic aircraft. Otherwise, we will destroy what we have created for decades. And there will be no one to restore.
  5. makarov
    makarov 26 November 2013 08: 15
    +3
    The dealers of worn-out equipment selling it primarily care about bribes and profits. Unfortunately, buyers of crappy equipment are also primarily concerned with profits - to invest less and get more.
    The result of a symbiotic algorithm is inevitable - a plane crash with victims of innocent people who also paid for their own death.
  6. patriot2
    patriot2 26 November 2013 08: 19
    +1
    It seems that flying coffins are so beneficial to airline owners that their cancellation in the country is simply impossible due to corruption in the relevant regulatory authorities.
    Well, pilots are always extreme (as are drivers of auto trash).
    The power of Russia - wake up, and then the number of taxpayers due to air crashes will continue to decrease! What will you live on? recourse
  7. saag
    saag 26 November 2013 08: 26
    +1
    This is a retaliatory move, at first it was - "The pilots are to blame", now - "The MAC is to blame", we will see how it all ends
  8. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 26 November 2013 08: 37
    0
    I love to fly. But damn you want to live. Will have to travel by train.
  9. svskor80
    svskor80 26 November 2013 08: 38
    +4
    "Tired" equipment should be prohibited from exploiting either imported or domestic. And for airlines to introduce requirements for the maximum age of aircraft in operation and the percentage of Russian aircraft in the total fleet. Compensate from the budget for the purchase of their liners. After the Africans, we fly on airplanes, in a nightmare this would not have been seen.
  10. ism_ek
    ism_ek 26 November 2013 09: 06
    +6
    Everyone screams - bad pilots. And how much money did Transaero and Aeroflot invest in training pilots? Why do our pilots work in Africa and cannot find a place in Russia? Aeroflot has been buying Boeings for 10 years and its management did not even think that the Russian pilots would be over soon. Now they want to hire foreigners ...
    This is a simple example showing that there is no systematic state approach to the development of Russian civil aviation. Therefore, we do not have Russian civilian aircraft.
  11. Ihrek
    Ihrek 26 November 2013 09: 11
    +3
    Quote: Denis
    Quote: Jamal
    The problem is not only in old aircraft, but also in unskilled pilots.
    Old-old Tu-154 bad pilots were put on an unprepared runway. Passengers were evacuated, and after repair it took off
    One announcer said something about the accident, like Soviet planes are so old that they fall apart. She is familiar with aviation only by helicopter, the gynecological chair is so called. That the planes were made with such a safety margin that they could take off in case of war from unpaved .But what you need to buy abroad yelped
    Not in technology, but in control, the whole thing
    If I'm talking about unskilled pilots. this does not mean that all pilots are like that. We have many good pilots. But unskilled people are also found. The percentage of which over the past 15-20 years has increased dramatically.
  12. AlexxxNik
    AlexxxNik 26 November 2013 09: 17
    +7
    I’m not a flyer myself, but as a techie I’ll say that in addition to the age of the aircraft, the number of previous owners is also critical, because everyone strives to stretch out repairs before selling, but like a battery, you can’t get 100% of the lost battery. correctly, the author began to dig. precisely by owners. before this article, I thought that transaero is one of the largest and he prefers, thanks to the author for the info, we will use the old-fashioned approach - use the services of Aeroflot
  13. IGS
    IGS 26 November 2013 09: 21
    +3
    Everything seems to be correctly written ... but only something suggests that the article is ordered. It is very disgusting to use the tragedy for their own purposes. The article writes only about Transaero, as if only she carries out transportation. I have to fly very often, and I prefer Transaero, you can understand if I wrote about Ural Airlines, which I swore to fly. Maybe my opinion is subjective, but not only I fly, but also my wife and children, so the choice of an airline for me is a very serious matter. And one more little fact .. only, only Transaero took the 16th place among airlines in terms of flight safety in the world, 6th in Europe according to the rating of the JACDEC (Jet Airliner Crash Data Evaluation Center) bureau, specializing in the collection of information on aviation accidents and condition assessment flight safety in air transport, being the only Russian airline included in the top 30 ... I hope there is no need to explain that this caused a sharp influx of passengers from other airlines. Aeroflot, the main competitor of Transaero, by the way, is only 34 ... and this is with its prices, at least on domestic flights. Article minus.
    1. Basarev
      Basarev 26 November 2013 17: 30
      +1
      No wonder - the article details who the IAC is and what it has in common with Transaero
      1. IGS
        IGS 28 November 2013 05: 47
        0
        Yes, what does it have to do with it. I flew and fly by many airlines and I see a lot with my own eyes, let my opinion be subjective. I can bring a couple of airlines on which horror takes already when you board a plane. This is a usual squabble between two carriers, which is now inappropriate, and which does not benefit passengers. As if Aeroflot is not connected with anyone, white and fluffy. I can understand if they fought with ticket prices, reducing them, although all this bucha, something tells me is caused by a decrease in Transaero ticket prices. For me, it makes a difference to buy a ticket to Novosibirsk and back for 10 or 400, although in other countries and foreign airlines a similar ticket would cost 16-000 thousand. We have the most expensive plane prices in the world, and this, given our vastness, is cheaper to fly over a hill than in the country.
  14. EvilLion
    EvilLion 26 November 2013 10: 02
    0
    I didn’t understand something, but what about Misha Pogo, who allegedly killed the aircraft industry and, according to a recent letter, is guilty of everything?
    1. Basarev
      Basarev 26 November 2013 17: 31
      -1
      Just don’t have to drive Poghosyan. MiG men still cannot forgive the Sukhovites for the victory of the T-50 and the absolute failure of the MiG-1.44
  15. lelyk72
    lelyk72 26 November 2013 10: 12
    +5
    I absolutely agree with the author about the "family ties" between Transaero and Mac. However, remind me of the last time a transaero plane crashed ??????
    Further, I recently read that in the first place in the world, Finair, the average age of the aircraft is 9 years, in the top ten Lufthansa (15-20 years), Transaero (16 years), but Aeroflot is 39 !!!! location, average age 6 (!!!!) years. Somehow, the connection between age and safety is not noticeable.
    The following statistics: over the past couple of years, the number of plane crashes of liners up to 5 years - 9 pcs., From 5 to 30 years - 13 pcs. (in fact, there the age is scheduled for 5 years, but I did not bother to remember, I just folded all the planes older than 5 years, but in any case the distribution is uniform).
    Further, the author, who told you that the aircraft are MOT in the "country of operation" ????? ONLY at the "dealer", respectively, no matter where it is operated, all work is carried out on time and in full.
  16. Lesmed2
    Lesmed2 26 November 2013 10: 30
    +1
    Build your business on human bones, ...
  17. askort154
    askort154 26 November 2013 10: 51
    +9
    It has become a tradition: - to speak widely through the media about the problems in the aviation industry and civil aviation, only after another catastrophe. The article reflects the "activities" of the IAC headed by "mommy" Anodina and her family in the AK "Transaero". Berezovsky and Frank are casually mentioned. But not deservedly forgotten are the people who stood at the origins of the collapse of the Civil Aviation and Aviation Industry, the people who opened the country's "air gate" for foreign, "killed" aircraft. These are (Berezovsky, Frank), Syskovets, Shaposhnikov, Okulov, Neradko. aviation corporations ", the Ministry of Civil Aviation was destroyed, making a department under the Ministry of Transport (aviation was merged with railway workers and motorists). Aviation went to the outskirts. Flight schools were reduced, training of flight personnel reached a critical level (where it is still). The thousands of aircraft park left behind after the USSR was partially sold out (to third countries for "pennies"), and the bulk of it was scrapped. The pilots went nowhere, or fly to African countries.
    Now: - Shaposhnikov is the presidential advisor on aviation, Neradko is the head of the Federal Air Transport Agency, Okulov (Yeltsin's son-in-law), was used to "cover the ideas of Berezovsky and K", headed Aeroflot, now the Deputy Minister of Transport. 24 "showed an interview with Okulov on the topic
    What needs to be done for radical changes in the GA of the Russian Federation? A set of ordinary declarations on the aviation theme was voiced - to improve, improve, tighten. He spoke with difficulty, as if not understanding where he is and what they want from him. It's a shame to watch. Now the issue of allowing foreign pilots to access flights to the Russian Federation is being actively lobbied. As long as only in Aeroflot and in the amount of 200 commanders. They need at least
    to provide housing in Moscow and a European salary, otherwise, the homeless commanders are a time bomb. At the same time, Shaposhnikov and Okulov beat themselves in the chest, saying that so far
    the Tu-334 and Tu-204 were not put into production, the country needs to purchase 150-200 foreign airplanes. Pope Yeltsin, of course, heard them, and now all of Russia is flying "second-hand air". Maybe then, in general, not to strain with the training of pilots, but to hire foreign and in the Air Force? Air companies of the Russian Federation are operated by people without aviation education, but by top managers with an economic or legal education, for whom the plane is like a Kamaz. Profit! And, only profit !. It is bitter to realize, but with such "attention" of our rulers to the problems of AVIATION (GA and Air Force), we will continue to kill people, most of all in the world.
    1. VAF
      VAF 26 November 2013 15: 15
      +3
      Quote: askort154
      yesterday on TV channel "Russia 24" showed an interview with Okulov on the topic,
      What needs to be done for radical changes in the GA of the Russian Federation?


      Hello Sasha! You for koment +++++++++! good
      Yesterday also ... I just watched Okulov ... running eyes. About nothing ... contrary ... but I watched! wassat
      1. askort154
        askort154 26 November 2013 16: 12
        +3
        vaf ... Hello Sasha!

        Seryozha, mutually! Thank!
        Previously, a stopar in the kitchen, now the 21st century is an Internet marketplace. And the result is the same, each other "cried in a napkin" and EVERYTHING.
        1. VAF
          VAF 26 November 2013 19: 56
          +2
          Quote: askort154
          Previously, a stopar in the kitchen, now the 21st century is an Internet marketplace. And the result is the same, each other "cried in a napkin" and EVERYTHING.


          +++++++++++++++++++++! drinks You know, with friends always and everywhere .... after the 3rd .. only about .... soldier
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  21. Kizhich
    Kizhich 26 November 2013 10: 59
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    Good morning everyone! Wandering around the Internet came across such an interesting letter from test pilots! And this already says something! I tried to stick it does not work, so I'm sorry that the link!
    http://maxpark.com/community/13/content/2331749?ref=1576374755
  22. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 26 November 2013 11: 01
    +4
    Brothers are nothing personal, but I keep wondering when people will finally understand that they are not just robbed, they are getting rid of them. "Bread and circuses" - I've already met this somewhere, a couple of times, and both were fatal. Damn, a paradox, just yesterday the level of development of a Russian person was unmatched, but today they are like rats in a barrel for a piece of bread thrown from above, gnawing at each other, instead of eating the one who has this bread. Somehow this summer in Kaluga, on Teatralnaya Square, activists carried out an action against juvenile justice. I stopped and supported people (it was not only about the juvenile, other questions about the destructive activities of the authorities were also discussed), a total of 15-20 people gathered (at least while I was there). They looked at us like fools. There were even contemptuous looks, exclamations "What are you missing?", "Everything is not enough for you, go on strike?" "Insatiable.", "Don't let people live in peace." So that's it. Even if there is a desire to go out to fight, then with whom to do it? The people are degrading, and the authorities are under the control of TV and radio.
    Based on this, the authorities wanted all the grievances for one simple reason - no one can interfere with her, she is sure that the people are degraded and will not go anywhere, and when it gets wiser it will be too late. That is why the Serdyukov-Vasilyevs with the Gaidar-Chubiks and the like are not on the gallows. People will sit in holes and tremble.
    Answering the questions "Why don't you sit in a hole?" I answer, no, I go to protests in my hometown, and my place is in the harsh hour of testing, depending on age, it will be at the front / in the partisans, the askers can be calm. If someone thinks that the most terrible sight will be, in case of trouble, on the front lines, in cities and villages, among the civilian population, then they are mistaken. Terrible spectacles will be at customs, in foreign embassies, border posts, railway stations, airports.
    1. washi
      washi 26 November 2013 12: 50
      +1
       Mareman Vasilich  Today, 11:01 New
      Somehow this summer in Kaluga, on Teatralnaya Square, activists carried out an action against juvenile justice. I stopped and supported people (it was not only about the juvenile, other questions about the destructive activities of the authorities were also discussed), a total of 15-20 people gathered (at least while I was there). They looked at us like fools. There were even contemptuous looks, exclamations "What are you missing?", "Everything is not enough for you, go on strike?" "Insatiable.", "Don't let people live in peace." So that's it.
      You missed political classes. They did not study the works of Lenin, and especially Stalin. And it was precisely for this that they could not correctly campaign the population.
      And group gatherings are now associated with Swamp and hirelings
  23. bubla5
    bubla5 26 November 2013 11: 13
    +1
    Clearly, there is an intensive destruction of civil aviation and aircraft construction in Russia, a thoughtless and arrogant desire to make money on imported old flying coffins, with the connivance of two clowns
  24. Toporkoff
    Toporkoff 26 November 2013 11: 22
    +1
    Thunder will not strike - a man does not cross himself.
    And where did everyone look before? not the first plane crashes, they try again and calm down, and we will forget about this case in a month ...
    1. Basarev
      Basarev 26 November 2013 17: 40
      0
      Meanwhile, in the thirties, when only five heap blimps crashed, no more - immediately the airships were banned
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  26. siberko
    siberko 26 November 2013 11: 41
    +2
    "For Russia and the CIS countries it is 8,19 per million, for African countries - 6,17, for North America - 1,33. Think about it: in terms of the number of accidents in passenger aviation, we have overtaken even ever-belligerent and impoverished Africa!", - right, because we buy them from them
  27. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 26 November 2013 12: 26
    +1
    A stable, highly qualified Soviet system for training aviation specialists was destroyed. The fragments of this system cannot conduct normal, systematic training of flight personnel. Therefore, pieces for retraining for pilots, navigators, engineers, and other specialists are used. It is necessary to radically change the training system.
  28. vkrav
    vkrav 26 November 2013 12: 32
    +2
    Here it is, the "bright future" of European integrators and globalizers ... Even Russia has been turned into an air secondhand market ... And not only air ... It's easier to buy from blacks than to develop and maintain your own production.
  29. b-130
    b-130 26 November 2013 12: 39
    +1
    "reconstruction of the CIVIL AVIATION SYSTEM" - and only completely state property - GREAT offer !!!
  30. aviamed90
    aviamed90 26 November 2013 12: 40
    +3
    The author plus for analyzing the situation in the article.

    But in this case (Kazan disaster), the age and condition of the aircraft did not play decisive role. And the reason, most likely, was insufficient pilot training. As confirmed by publicly known facts.

    All this has already been discussed on the forums when discussing articles on this topic ("The plane crashed in Kazan, previously 44 people were killed", "Kazan tragedy: figures, facts, versions", "An open letter to President V.V. Putin") on this site. Moreover, this opinion was expressed by members of the forum, whose competence there is no doubt (due to their professional activities).

    But, of course, the age and number of previous owners of aircraft has a direct relationship with the state of accident in the GA.
  31. b-130
    b-130 26 November 2013 12: 40
    +2
    "reconstruction of the CIVIL AVIATION SYSTEM" - and only state property - GREAT offer !!!
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  33. Ivan Pomidorov
    Ivan Pomidorov 26 November 2013 12: 55
    +1
    As in any business, the path of creation is much more complicated and longer than the path of destruction.
    Article plus, again, since such an analysis sounded, then how much rope do not curl,
    the time will come, and they will put things in order, who should be appointed according to their position.
    And thanks to the author for a thoughtful analysis with figures and facts.
    For your contribution to the revival of Russian Civil Aviation! drinks drinks drinks
  34. evil hamster
    evil hamster 26 November 2013 13: 06
    -1
    The questions are generally correct, from just an article with a dash (which does not negate many of the right questions). For reference, the Utah’s fleet is even older, but there’s no word about it in the article.
  35. pr 627
    pr 627 26 November 2013 13: 17
    0
    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C0%E2%E8%E0%EA%E0%F2%E0%F1%F2%F0%EE%F4%FB_%E2_%D0%
    EE% F1% F1% E8% E8_% F1_1991_% E3% EE% E4% E0 List of disasters in Russia for 20 years. The main participants are domestic LA I want to draw attention to the fact that, with all the harsh criticism, the author has used the method of forming an aircraft fleet. It was fair It was noted that attempts to modernize the aircraft in avionics and engines failed, the reason is the general degradation of the aviation industry. This means the problem is larger than the current economic activity of air carriers.
  36. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 26 November 2013 13: 43
    +3
    <<< The Chairman of the IAC and his deputies enjoy immunity, that is, "are not subject to judicial responsibility for actions committed by them in the line of duty." IAC officials have diplomatic privileges and immunities in relation to themselves and their family members, which remain even after the termination of their service with the IAC. And so on. >>>
    MAK is a burp of the 90s, a period of rampant libesral market philosophy with its "what is not forbidden is allowed", which allowed officials to create this unique structure, practically outside the control of the Russian Federation, a kind of "sacred cow" that does what it wants and walks , where he wants and DOES NOT RESPOND FOR ANYTHING! Is it any wonder that our civil aviation fleet is filled with imported OLD, in the full sense of the flying coffins with the knowledge of the IAC, "fit for use" and profitable for maximum profit, and the domestic civil aircraft industry is HARDENED! Isn't it time, without waiting for the next plane crash, to send this "sacred cow", which is obviously beaten off from the hands, which does not bring any benefit, but only harm, to the battle!
    1. Goldmitro
      Goldmitro 26 November 2013 15: 55
      0
      PS
      By the way, with regard to the latest Boeing crash in Kazan, at the moment of its crash, literally a second before its collision with the ground, the FLASH in the engine area is clearly visible on the recording, while IAC experts say that the engines worked fine until the last moment. What does this flash look like an explosion? What is this normal?
      1. lelyk72
        lelyk72 26 November 2013 16: 02
        +2
        That is, the plane fell from a height of 700 meters due to the fact that the ground had a "flash like an explosion" ????????
        Iron logic................
        Sit in the dark near the airfield - you will see such "explosions" on every plane flying by. And they are called "aeronautical lights".
        1. VAF
          VAF 26 November 2013 20: 04
          +2
          Quote: lelyk72
          And they are called "aeronautical lights".


          That's right, it's just not the lights, but the LIGHTHOUSES ... of the MIS type (beacon of a glimpse-inertial (strobing) signal.
          A flash of white light is visible in a million-in-a-million visibility range over 50 km.
          "Flash of welding" is not even close.
    2. Basarev
      Basarev 26 November 2013 17: 50
      0
      Despite the fact that it’s possible to stop at just some arrests, we need chases and murders. Cruelty and lynching. It’s necessary to give all the stolen bureaucrats without exception to the people, since this is the only way to guarantee this sabotage subversion
  37. Coast
    Coast 26 November 2013 15: 28
    +1
    Something I do not see in the article of the most important table: the chronicle of the disasters of the Transaero company for 20 years.
    1. IGS
      IGS 26 November 2013 17: 30
      0
      But why?smile This is not included in the author's plans, then money will not be given for a "masterpiece". I already wrote above. Transaero ranks first in Russia in terms of flight safety, 16 in the world, and 6 in Europe. And Aeroflot only 34. And this despite the fact that Transaero is the largest company in terms of passenger traffic in Russia. There is an anecdote on this topic:
      - You know, Chaim has a daughter ...
      “But he has four sons and no daughter.”
      - I expressed my opinion, and let him justify himself.
  38. Criceta
    Criceta 26 November 2013 17: 59
    0
    Here are the statistics, from open sources, for the most popular aircraft, without regard to their age;

    A320 released - 5597, Avriy - 25, in percent: 0,44%
    MD 80/90 issued - 1191, accidents - 28, percentage: 2,3%
    Boeing 737 released - 7600, crashes - 174, percentage: 2,3%
    Etc.
    Boeing 757 - 0.76%
    Boeing 747 - 3.6%
    Boeing 767 - 1.45%

    And according to our:
    Tu 134 released - 854, 78 accidents, 9,1%
    Tu 154 released - 998, 73 accidents, 7,3%
    Tu 204 released - 75, 2 accidents, 2,66%
    IL 62 released - 289, accidents 23, in percentage 7,9%
    IL 86 released - 102, accidents 3, in percentage 2,9%
    There are no 96 accidents.

    And it doesn’t matter old planes, new ones, everything in this statistic. And she eloquently talks about which planes are safe to fly on, which ones aren’t ...
    In any case, the choice is up to the consumer, i.e. behind us. If you want to be parotic - fly on domestic planes. Do not want to fly to foreign. I’m personally, I prefer not to mess with our airlines at all. European and cheaper and better ... Unfortunately, it is not always possible, then inside the country - Aeroflot or S7.

    PS Figures by the way from Wikipedia ...
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 26 November 2013 18: 51
      +3
      November 15 2013 city Transaero Airlines Boeing 737-500, flying on the route: Moscow-Donetsk, soon after takeoff was forced to return to the airport of departure Domodedovo. According to preliminary information, the alarm was triggered by the failure to clean the front landing gear. Landing was normal. Onboard there were more than 100 passengers and crew; no harm done. Investigation in progress. November 6, 2013. Transaero Airlines Boeing 737-500, flying the route: Yerevan-Moscow, while approaching Vnukovo Airport, was in the landing corridor of another UTair Boeing 737 aircraft landing at the landing. Thus, both sides were at the same height of 600 m. at a distance of about 2,5 km and converged. Thanks to the timely and competent actions of the dispatcher, the planes managed to separate in time and avoid a catastrophe. Under investigation 10 Transaero Airlines Boeing 737-500, flying the route: Novosibirsk - Moscow, was forced to return to its departure airport shortly after takeoff. According to preliminary information, the cause of the incident was a malfunction in the generator. Landing was normal. Onboard there were 100 passengers and crew; no harm done. Investigation in progress. 7 August 2013 The Boeing 777-300 Transaero Airlines flying the Moscow-Barcelona flight was forced to return to Domodedovo Airport due to engine technical problems. Landing was successful. Onboard there were more than 300 people, including the crew; no harm done. Investigation Pending August 6, 2013 the Boeing 737-800 aircraft of the Transaero airline performing a flight along the route: "Larnaca - Novosibirsk" was landing at the Tolmachevo airport when an alarm went off, warning of a possible destruction of pneumatics on the left landing gear. Landing was successful. Onboard were 150 passengers and crew; no harm done. Investigation ongoing. July 26, 2013. Transaero Airlines Boeing 737-500, flying the route: Rostov-on-Don - Moscow, was forced to return to its departure airport shortly after takeoff. According to preliminary information, the alarm of depressurization of the cabin worked in flight. Landing was successful. Onboard there were 92 passengers and crew; no harm done. Investigation in progress. June 5, 2013. Transaero Airlines Boeing 737-500, which operated on the Moscow-Sochi route, was forced to return to its departure airport. According to preliminary information, technical problems that occurred during the flight caused the incident. Landing was normal. Onboard there were more than 100 passengers and crew; no harm done. Investigation ongoing May 25, 2013 the Boeing 777-200 plane of Transaero Airlines flying the route: Moscow (Vnukovo) - New York, shortly after takeoff, was forced to make an emergency landing at Sheremetyevo Airport. According to preliminary information, the “left engine fire” alarm was triggered during the flight. The crew turned off the left engine and made a safe landing at Sheremetyevo Airport. Onboard were 221 passengers and crew; no harm done. During a ground inspection, it turned out that the alarm was false, due to a malfunction in the electronics.
      1. drop
        drop 26 November 2013 19: 50
        0
        These materials were not enough in the article.
      2. IGS
        IGS 26 November 2013 22: 35
        0
        Can you compare it with other world airlines? And then somehow it turns out strange ... 16 in the world for safety ... and airplanes fly on parole and one wing. As far as I understand, suicides fly on other airlines, including Aeroflot, since Transaero is recognized as the safest of the Russian airlines. And Aeroflot is in general, apparently, a company created by veterans of kamikaze flying on airplanes of the 40s, since it is 20 positions behind Transaero in the world ranking. In general, the article is ordered, because pressure begins on the airline that has the least complaints. It would be easier to write one sentence instead of an article: "Do not fly by Transaero, it is bad, fly by Aeroflot", and does not suffer to lay out all these figures, although, of course, it will be more impressive and pay more. Advice to everyone, including Transaero, leave your showdown on the bones, God is not a fraer.
      3. lelyk72
        lelyk72 27 November 2013 09: 36
        0
        Dear, doesn’t it seem to you that you have given a not entirely successful example?
        What we see: a bunch of technology failures. But it normal!!!!! Technique is iron, and yes, it periodically refuses !!!!! You can be indignant about this, hysteria, but SO WILL ALWAYS !!!! The task of the crew, technicians, aircraft designers is to prevent accidents / catastrophes in case of equipment failures.
        In the cases you mentioned, thanks to the competent actions of all (read above), no one was hurt. Those. not that the victims, and even no fractures, dislocations.
        During the discussion of this topic, it was already said that Transaero has a fairly old fleet (according to society). But! From your examples, it will be necessary to conclude that the age of the fleet does not have an effect, but the number of accidents, Transaero has a high level of pilot training, and as a result of all this, accident rate is quite low.
    2. kind
      kind 26 November 2013 19: 18
      0
      Wikipedia, by the way, is a data dump, where everyone thinks he is an expert. In relation to the statistics you indicated for our aircraft, it is not indicated for what period of time the accident occurred and the nature of the accident. As for the IL-86 in general, it's a lie, it is the most reliable aircraft, and you write 102 accidents. If you summarize all the accidents from 1960 to 2013, according to your data, almost 44 accidents per year are obtained - complete nonsense.
      1. lelyk72
        lelyk72 27 November 2013 09: 59
        0
        Dear, read carefully: not "102 accidents", but "102 released".
        Accidents in total 3.
  39. propolsky
    propolsky 26 November 2013 18: 40
    +1
    Bourgeois aircraft are normal, but there should always be their own aircraft! Woe is not only in the destroyed aviation industry and stupid admiration for the West (pilots learn technology in a foreign language, translating textbooks in accordance with their level of English, a mistake in translation is a mistake in understanding the system’s work, but it has been banned to translate into Russian!), But also in destroyed pilot training system, and it takes a long time to restore ...
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 26 November 2013 18: 58
      +2
      I recalled a joke: A schoolboy sits on a windowsill and smokes. The headmaster approaches him: What is this? What class? One: What class, what class-bourgeoisie!
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 26 November 2013 19: 04
        +1
        In June 2006, while receiving a bribe of $ 300 thousand, the Senator from the Kalmyk parliament, Levon Chakhmakhchyan, was detained in Transaero’s office with his son-in-law, Assistant Auditor of the Accounts Chamber Armen Hovhannisyan. According to the investigation, they extorted a bribe from the company's management for hiding the negative results of its verification. In July 2008, the Moscow City Court sentenced Levon Chakhmakhchyan to nine years in prison, and in November, the sentence was reduced to seven and a half years.
  40. kind
    kind 26 November 2013 19: 04
    0
    The chairman of the IAC and his deputies enjoy immunity, that is, "they are not subject to judicial liability for actions committed by them in the performance of official duties." IAC officials in relation to themselves and their family members have diplomatic privileges and immunities, which remain after the termination of their service in the IAC. Etc.

    Priests however.
    Here is the Result: today Aeroflot has one of the youngest fleets in Europe - the average age of planes is 5,6 years.

    I trusted, I trust and (if Aeroflot will continue to rely on the safety of air travel) I will trust and recommend this airline to everyone.
    1. IGS
      IGS 27 November 2013 10: 42
      0
      Yeah ... you can recommend it if you fly once a year. Or if the money has nowhere to go. Their prices are 30 percent higher. For me, this is serious money, given that I fly at least 2 times a month. And for safety, Aeroflot, alas, is inferior to the same Transaero, wrote above and cited the facts.
  41. Altona
    Altona 26 November 2013 19: 08
    +1
    I was also surprised by the persistence of the "human factor" in domestic accidents, although it was immediately said that the pilot was experienced, sober and landed and landed in this place several times ... For some reason, they declared the entire Soviet aircraft fleet unusable and immediately bought an unfit foreign one, destroying our the aviation industry in the bud ... and all the time they poke at us with recorders with the records of the pilots ... And about the technical condition of the aircraft, only one thing is wrong, the plane was as good as new ... How can it be as good as new, even if it is shoveled? I don’t believe these custom-made experts ... People say that the wings of the plane vibrated terribly in flight, the landing gear almost broke during landing, and the experts are all God's dew - the pilots are to blame, and that's it, period!
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 26 November 2013 19: 14
      +2
      Here is some information to think about. The Kazan Boeing was that year of release.
  42. Stinger
    Stinger 26 November 2013 19: 20
    +1
    Something the article looks a lot like custom. Too many details about one campaign. The only thing missing is the conclusion - remove Transaero and Anodina and everything will be in order. Alas. There could be no degradation in the aviation industry when all industries were degraded, and there was nothing for passengers to fly, there was nothing to buy grub. Only shuttles moved, in which the aviators also turned. And after a long pause, up to 2001-2002, no one moved. Plus leapfrog with ministries, lack of customers, the destruction of cooperative ties, etc., etc. They fingered everything with their paws, but not many stood up from their backs. They survived as best they could. But then, when there was a chance to restore the production of domestic aircraft, instead of introducing barrage duties on the import of foreign aircraft to stimulate our own production, in the best liberal traditions (they say, ours are worse anyway) they took up economic games for a quick “breakthrough”. Well, and rushed to a tailspin. If merchants from aviation do not have enough brains, then we must use power.
    1. vvp2412
      vvp2412 26 November 2013 20: 39
      0
      Quote: Stinger
      Something the article looks a lot like custom. Too many details about one campaign. The only thing missing is the conclusion - remove Transaero and Anodina and everything will be in order.


      Why is it incomprehensible !? This company is listed as she is affiliated with IAC! She has one preference worse than a state-owned company! That leads. The author writes what started from this and spread to everyone!
  43. typhoon7
    typhoon7 26 November 2013 20: 09
    0
    Quote: vladimirZ
    To change the situation in civil aviation, the political will of the supreme power of the state, in the person of the President, the Government and the State Duma, is necessary.
    The privatization of state civil aviation under the Aeroflot brand must be admitted to be wrong.

    I agree. I don’t remember what year, then the speaker of the State. Duma Boris Gryzlov before the elections at the factory where the Tu-204 or 214 was assembled, he gave the talk: ,, We will lobby for the domestic aircraft industry ,,. After which, our aircraft industry slowly rested. After the plane crash of the company, Tatarstan, I watched on TV how officials sang Boeing. When a domestic plane crashes, angry speeches are heard about the closure of production. Bias in this matter is unacceptable and vile. When the authorities and officials scam our aircraft industry, shipbuilding, etc., their words are judged by them, because these sectors are their direct responsibility. I would bless the GDP if instead of a million patriotic words at all kinds of congresses, forums, parties there, he would take and restore the production of technical specifications and silt.
  44. vvp2412
    vvp2412 26 November 2013 20: 37
    0
    I wonder who put the "-"? Anodina herself !?
    1. IGS
      IGS 27 November 2013 10: 30
      0
      I put a minus, and explained why, read.
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 28 November 2013 17: 25
        0
        Quote: IGS
        I put a minus, and explained why, read.

        Read pure water verbal water .
        Sorry, but only general phrases. Does not draw minus explanation to this article.
        request
        Special thanks for
        Quote: IGS
        put a minus, and explained why, read.

        , and then the authors - seek to remain anonymous.
        drinks