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Moscow calls on Damascus to unite with the opposition to fight militants

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Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov called on the Syrian government to unite with the moderate Syrian opposition and begin a joint struggle against the militants. He also appealed to the Syrian authorities to step up efforts to deliver humanitarian aid to the country.


“It is even better, without waiting for the convening of the“ Geneva-2 ”, to start a joint struggle together with the moderate secular opposition, the struggle against the terrorists who are trying to change power not only in Syria, but throughout the region. The very fact of convening a conference can play a positive role so that sane people from the opposition, who are at war, stop doing this and help eradicate terrorists, ”ITAR-TASS quotes Lavrov.

Russia highly appreciates Syria’s efforts to implement the chemical elimination program. weapons. "In record time, steps are being taken to eliminate Syrian chemical weapons in accordance with the agreements between Damascus, the UN and the OPCW," the minister said.

Lavrov also called on the Syrian authorities to step up efforts to deliver humanitarian aid to the civilian population.

“We urge you to do more to ensure the fastest possible delivery of humanitarian aid to people in need, to reduce bureaucratic procedures,” he said at a meeting with representatives of the Syrian government delegation in Moscow.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov opposed attempts to exclude anyone from the number of participants in the Geneva-2 international conference on Syria for ideological and personal reasons.

"It is crucial that the opening of the conference as states that will guarantee final agreements between the Syrians themselves be attended by all who have a particular impact on the development of the situation inside your country," said the foreign minister meeting with representatives of the Syrian government delegation.

The Syrian government delegation was led by the First Deputy Foreign Minister of Syria, Faisal Mikdad, and the Presidential Adviser on Political and Informational Issues, Bussein Shaaban.

Syrian Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Mikdad, in an interview with RT in Arabic, said on Tuesday that Damascus needed additional consultations with the Russian Federation and other parties to decide whether the Syrian government was ready to take part in informal talks in Moscow with representatives of the opposition. 2.

“In fact, this question is very complicated. I think that it is necessary to conduct additional consultations with Russian colleagues and other interested parties, ”he said.



Russian position

18 in November Sergey Lavrov told the Nezavisimaya Gazeta in an interview about the role of Russia in resolving the Syrian crisis, the Russian version of solving the conflict and the process of chemical disarmament in Syria.
The head of the diplomatic department said that from the very beginning of the Syrian crisis, Russia had paid increased attention to the problem of chemical weapons in Syria.

“When in December 2012, the first reports appeared that there were cases of the use of chemical weapons, or, so to say, which suggested that chemical poisonous substances were used, we considered them very seriously. At that time there were no convincing facts proving that this was exactly a weapon. According to our estimates, at that time there was the use of chemical poisonous substances taken by the opposition at one of the chemical plants, which it seized and controlled for a short period of time, ”said Lavrov.

Lavrov recalled that at the meeting of the presidents of Russia and the United States "on the margins" of the G20 summit in St. Petersburg, an understanding was reached that everything must be done so that Syria does not have chemical weapons. “We agreed on a Russian-American proposal in record time, which was submitted to the OPCW and the UNSC and took the form of a decision of the OPCW Executive Council and UN Security Council resolution 2118. Its practical implementation is proceeding without any failures, ”the Foreign Minister noted.
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  1. IRBIS
    IRBIS 22 November 2013 15: 56
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    Pretty strong political move. Some are clearly designated as moderate opposition, others as irreconcilable militants and mercenaries destroying the country. It’s interesting how opposition leaders and Western governments will turn around, supplying weapons to anyone. Especially if at least part of the opposition supports the proposal.
    1. Siberian German
      Siberian German 22 November 2013 19: 31
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      I believe that Damascus will agree to this step. But the question is what are the criteria in determining moderate opposition. With whom to conclude an alliance.
      1. Migari
        Migari 22 November 2013 20: 34
        +2
        Syrian militants, regardless of their affiliation with one or another group, can be divided into two main parts: radical Islamists fighting for the creation of an Islamic state and the so-called "armed oppositionists" from the "Syrian Free Army". Their total number, as well as the number of militants in individual groups - the main mystery, over the solution of which are struggling as individual analysts and intelligence services of Syria and other states. This is primarily due to the nomadic lifestyle of those fighting against the Syrian army.
        1. alone
          alone 22 November 2013 23: 15
          +1
          Quote: Migari
          Irian militants, regardless of affiliation with one or another group, can be divided into two main parts: radical Islamists fighting for the creation of an Islamic state and the so-called "armed oppositionists" from the "Syrian Free Army." Their total number, as well as the number of militants in individual groups - the main mystery, over the solution of which are struggling as individual analysts and intelligence services of Syria and other states. This is primarily due to the nomadic lifestyle of those fighting against the Syrian army.


          there is no riddle there. everything is mixed up. both moderates and radicals hold defense together and attack together. and so, in words, they are all moderate or radicals. for Assad’s troops they are all the same. and for them Assad’s troops are enemies. moves away to the side. the course is certainly strong, I can’t argue, but almost unreal. both of them will not go against each other. at this stage. if someone stutters the moderate, the end will come. the radicals have strong positions and are armed much better than moderate. the radicals exclusively have great combat experience, unlike the moderate ones.
          1. Rusich51
            Rusich51 23 November 2013 16: 40
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            Alone. Only the Syrians themselves could get out of this slaughter planned by the West. If the Arabs have common sense, then they will cooperate.
    2. Stanislas
      Stanislas 22 November 2013 20: 17
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      Quote: IRBIS
      Pretty strong political move

      Exactly, otherwise they are all united in a bunch, like "people against a bloody regime", and then there will be people against international terrorists. If only it would grow together
    3. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 23 November 2013 07: 39
      +2
      Quote: IRBIS
      Pretty strong political move. Some are clearly designated as moderate opposition, others as irreconcilable militants and mercenaries destroying the country. It’s interesting how opposition leaders and Western governments will turn around, supplying weapons to anyone. Especially if at least part of the opposition supports the proposal.

      here is the news, Lavrov thought for a long time? Assad has long been calling on all the opposition’s constructive forces to cooperate and negotiate. Only That opposition, which is nothing of itself, prefers war and propaganda on blood. And that opposition, which has at least some significance and influence among the people, has long embarked on the path of agreements and constructive work, on the path of joint struggle with bandits.
    4. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 23 November 2013 20: 01
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      Quote: IRBIS
      Pretty strong political move. Some are clearly designated as moderate opposition, others as irreconcilable militants and mercenaries destroying the country. It’s interesting how opposition leaders and Western governments will turn around, supplying weapons to anyone. Especially if at least part of the opposition supports the proposal.


      Yes, simple. As always before. They will arrange another chemical attack or some other act of terrorism, personally blame Assad and demand a military operation against a legitimate government.

      What do you think Syria will be left alone if the conference begins? Or the division of terrorists into moderate and radical will change their filthy essence ???

      Purely my opinion, the Syrians need to increase their efforts to destroy the bandits tenfold. Block settlements with heavy equipment and purposely, house after house, clean up the territory until the last village is released ... Then collect the whole bearded lads and publicly hang them in the sun, so that the bearded ones examine their heroes better, and at the same time clearly understand their perspective.
  2. Ihrek
    Ihrek 22 November 2013 15: 59
    +4
    Opposition as such is very small, mostly militants incited by the West and some Arab countries. Therefore, there is especially no one to unite with.
    1. Xroft
      Xroft 22 November 2013 16: 08
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      This is a logical move that will justify, in the eyes of Western inhabitants, the destruction of militants at the root. Will they show an "opposition" leader who will then enter the government under Bashar al-Assad, did they want liberalization? here you are an opposition minister (he will be a promoted media person who has no actual political weight) ... well, everyone else is at the expense. And Syria will be able to get out of the bloody carnage into which it was driven by Western "partners" and the United States will remain with a "face" showing that they say that the opposition has come to power.
      The main thing is to convince the "partners" to stop feeding the militants.
  3. Stiletto
    Stiletto 22 November 2013 16: 03
    +4
    As one guy rightly noted here on the forum, Syria is not such a big country, so that if you want not to clean the bearded in a couple of months or earlier. But not everyone has such a desire. And as long as there are those who want to throw bearded firewood into this firebox, the bonfire of the civil war will blaze despite any peace initiatives .... Unfortunately hi
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 22 November 2013 16: 20
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      quote-Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov called on the Syrian government to unite with the moderate Syrian opposition and begin a joint struggle with the militants.

      Like in chess, a move is a queen (check), and there soon the mat is also visible.
      We are waiting for the response of the patrons of the militants.
      1. studentmati
        studentmati 22 November 2013 20: 45
        +3
        I think that the Queen’s move was made when resolving the issue of chemical weapons? The Knight has now made a move. The positional game continues, the main thing is that the initiative is seized. Until victory, still play and play.
      2. poquello
        poquello 22 November 2013 21: 38
        +2
        Quote: Apollon
        quote-Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov called on the Syrian government to unite with the moderate Syrian opposition and begin a joint struggle with the militants.

        Like in chess, a move is a queen (check), and there soon the mat is also visible.
        We are waiting for the response of the patrons of the militants.

        I would not say that this is a queen move, rather, placing a pawn on the penultimate horizontal.
        1. studentmati
          studentmati 22 November 2013 22: 00
          +2
          Quote: poquello
          I would not say that this is a move of the queen, rather setting a pawn on the penultimate horizontal


          Let's wait and find out! The queen scared and left, but the pawns are moving "at low gas", still ahead! And they go along all horizontals, until the last one still a lot of time.
          1. poquello
            poquello 22 November 2013 22: 33
            +2
            Quote: studentmati
            Quote: poquello
            I would not say that this is a move of the queen, rather setting a pawn on the penultimate horizontal


            Let's wait and find out! The queen scared and left, but the pawns are moving "at low gas", still ahead! And they go along all horizontals, until the last one still a lot of time.

            I’ll try to defend my option: the pawn is the Syrian sane opposition, and its weight in the future peaceful society of Syria depends on how much it takes in the fight against maniacs.
        2. starhina01
          starhina01 22 November 2013 22: 10
          +1
          rather, the horse’s move to the fork. where the king (opponent of Assad B) is forced to leave the shah but lose the rook (opposition) hi
          1. studentmati
            studentmati 22 November 2013 22: 17
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            Quote: starhina01
            rather, the horse’s move to the fork. where the king (opponent of Assad B) is forced to leave the shah but lose the rook (opposition)


            Mnogohodovka Grandmaster (S.V. Lavrova) seems only gaining momentum.
            1. poquello
              poquello 22 November 2013 22: 36
              +3
              Quote: studentmati
              Quote: starhina01
              rather, the horse’s move to the fork. where the king (opponent of Assad B) is forced to leave the shah but lose the rook (opposition)


              Mnogohodovka Grandmaster (S.V. Lavrova) seems only gaining momentum.

              Lavrov is undeniably strong in strategies.
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  5. knn54
    knn54 22 November 2013 16: 38
    +3
    REALLY, the opposition and the militants are completely different concepts. What is INTERESTING - the West ALWAYS used the opposition as a "prelude" to the beginning of the militants' actions. And the dialogue must be conducted with constructive opposition, and not talkers.
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 22 November 2013 17: 13
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      Quote: knn54
      And the dialogue must be conducted with constructive opposition, and not talkers.

      I agree with you, Nikolai, but there is one nuance. Before you sit down at the negotiating table, it would be good to know that the opposition will not put forward unacceptable demands. Having put forward such and received a refusal, the opposition will declare that the Assad regime does not want to listen to the "voice of the people." Such provocations are known in history. PS One more point. But won't the thugs, of whom the majority, cut out that part of the opposition that thinks adequately and is ready for negotiations? This is the practice in Syria now.
      1. Gregazov
        Gregazov 22 November 2013 21: 40
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        Therefore, we must hurry until they cut it to the end. And the opposition will make decisions faster.
      2. Gunsmith
        Gunsmith 22 November 2013 23: 17
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        So after all, negotiations of this level are carried out in advance. Kroki plot, roughly speaking.
  6. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 22 November 2013 16: 40
    +1
    Western "friends of Syria" are stubbornly pushing this country along the path of developing terrorism. They made a mess, ruined Libya, where gangs rule the show and de facto the country is falling apart into several "principalities". This scenario is very desirable for the "Syrian friends" in the person of the European Union and some countries of the Middle East. Therefore, compromises with the opposition are vital for the current government in Syria.
  7. Stinger
    Stinger 22 November 2013 16: 59
    +3
    Lavrov well done. But did constructive opposition remain there when the vultures flocked?
    1. gladysheff2010
      gladysheff2010 22 November 2013 17: 07
      +3
      The main thing is that the constructive opposition in Syria is not left or not, the answer is obvious: let the seeker find himself.
  8. andrei332809
    andrei332809 22 November 2013 17: 02
    +3
    Lavrov expressed the opinion of the majority of the world's population, but the mainstream minority, running politics in various "international" organizations, will yell, and loudly, absolutely the opposite. well, as always, they will repeat their mantra - "asad must go"
  9. Nayhas
    Nayhas 22 November 2013 17: 06
    +2
    Mr. Lavrov is most likely disingenuous by making such statements, because he is talking about the fact that as such a united opposition does not exist. Dozens of armed formations, most of which have territorial affiliation. The war is all against all. Even the so-called jihadists are far from united. Now the confrontation between Shiites and Sunnis has already gone very far, even Assad's resignation will not help consolidate the so-called "moderates" with government forces against jihadists, a year ago there would have been chances.
    PS: the Hezbollah fighters are essentially the same jihadists, for they conduct their jihad, but our politicians are embarrassed to call a spade a spade and generally are silent about participating in the war between Iran and Hezbollah. Like many commentators here, they burn with anger towards everyone who is against Assad (though the Kurds are an exception, they are favorably disposed towards them, although they also fight against Assad), for them, the Hezbollah fighters either do not exist at all or represent them as internationalist warriors.
    1. Gregazov
      Gregazov 22 November 2013 21: 42
      +1
      Alkaida consolidates them. For moderates, the choice is simple - either a peace with Assad or an Alkaida knife. There is no third.
  10. q_556
    q_556 22 November 2013 17: 09
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    But Lavrov did not specify for an hour how to distinguish an oppositionist from a militant?
    Ask any militant, so he will immediately say that he is an oppositionist, against the bloody regime of Assad, for the glorious future of what remains of Syria.

    If the enemy does not surrender - they destroy him. So Assad’s counter-proposals have only two options - to surrender or die. Well, or to win, but we will not allow this. angry
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  11. Keeper
    Keeper 22 November 2013 18: 04
    +1
    It seems to me that in Syria there are generally no opposition-minded people among the civilian population !!! Everyone is tired of military nonsense. Assad West will not leave alone, to the great regret ((you just have to hope that Europe will play enough and stop supporting the United States in their restless race for the blessings of the world ...
    Again, Europe does not want to depend on Russian gas, because it does not want to bow to the Russians! However, no one had ever forced her to bow ...
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 22 November 2013 21: 34
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      Quote: Keeper
      It seems to me that in Syria there are generally no opposition-minded people among the civilian population !!!

      What are you talking about! It turns out that the whole nation is for Assad, and 10 thousand foreign mercenaries which a year cannot be driven out of the country by the 300 thousandth army and Shabiha armed with airplanes, tanks and artillery, so I also had to bring up the Hezbollah and the IRGC from Iran ...
      1. poquello
        poquello 22 November 2013 22: 00
        +1
        Quote: Nayhas
        Quote: Keeper
        It seems to me that in Syria there are generally no opposition-minded people among the civilian population !!!

        What are you talking about! It turns out that the whole nation is for Assad, and 10 thousand foreign mercenaries which a year cannot be driven out of the country by the 300 thousandth army and Shabiha armed with airplanes, tanks and artillery, so I also had to bring up the Hezbollah and the IRGC from Iran ...

        What is the problem then? - They laid down their arms and agreed, held elections.
        That motley Shobla understands that she cannot take power in a legitimate way, so she yells "Assad, go away." Well, who are the people of Syria with?
  12. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 22 November 2013 18: 34
    +5
    Just mind you guys .. Syria has been abruptly forgotten by the liberal media (supposedly children and civilians are no longer killed with gas, they are not poisoned) The bombing has been canceled))) Now they have taken up Iran again .. Israel is tearing up and spawning .. Who else could be provoked into a war (with Saud friends began to whisper there among themselves)) When will Russia get stronger militarily and economically (like the USSR) "tails should be twisted to all provocateurs, warmongers of world wars and conflicts for the sake of profit and enrichment ..) I'm honestly tired already .. of these" double standards "and lies and blood for the sake of money ... eh b ... e ... v..r..all ... libers (sorry ..)))
  13. SEM
    SEM 22 November 2013 19: 54
    +1
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Just mind you guys .. Syria has been abruptly forgotten by the liberal media (supposedly children and civilians are no longer killed with gas, they are not poisoned) The bombing has been canceled))) Now they have taken up Iran again .. Israel is tearing up and spawning .. Who else could be provoked into a war (with Saud friends began to whisper there among themselves)) When will Russia get stronger militarily and economically (like the USSR) "tails should be twisted to all provocateurs, warmongers of world wars and conflicts for the sake of profit and enrichment ..) I'm honestly tired already .. of these" double standards "and lies and blood for the sake of money ... eh b ... e ... v..r..all ... libers (sorry ..)))

    I would like to add that they don’t care how many civilians died, they don’t care who the human hearts are eating on the video camera, calling for the overthrow of the legally elected government and the president, they don’t care what kind of chemical they are. weapons and where they are stored, AND IMPORTANT: only their own profitable oil that will flow to the market under their control, the sale of weapons, drugs, human organs and finally slaves and much more that we may not even know about because of our own ignorance what else can you make money ... For them, all methods are possible, this is world evil.
  14. individual
    individual 22 November 2013 20: 04
    +1
    The proposal of the Russian Foreign Ministry in a timely manner.
    The Syrian authorities must decide whether they are ready to share their powers with the sane opposition, to accept it and gather all healthy forces into a single fist in order to put an end to internal and foreign bandits.
    There will be a just cause in this consensus and victory will be in SYRIA.
  15. Karabin
    Karabin 22 November 2013 21: 19
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    Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov called on the Syrian government to unite with the moderate Syrian opposition and begin a joint struggle with the militants.

    I hope Lavrov's proposal is purely diplomatic and does not provide for practical pressure on Assad to unite with the "moderate secular opposition." The very term "moderate secular opposition" needs to be deciphered. If the opposition is at war, what kind of "moderate" is it? If he opposes in words, then with what fright will he go to wet the bearded?
    There are enough people wishing from the opposition to share powers with Assad, but it is unlikely to fight with the militants. I hope Bashar has enough intelligence and firmness not to get involved in dubious alliances with the opposition, even if he is urgently asked about it.
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  16. starhina01
    starhina01 22 November 2013 22: 23
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    this has a lot of interesting things, but how will it go further? adversaries can put some sort of pig.
  17. Cpa
    Cpa 23 November 2013 01: 16
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    Probably, some of the leaders of the opposition have been recruited, now they are moving towards a dialogue with the government, or just a distracting maneuver.
  18. Ship
    Ship 23 November 2013 02: 37
    +1
    What is the problem then? - They laid down their arms and agreed, held elections.
    That motley Shobla understands that she cannot take power in a legitimate way, so she yells "Assad, go away." Well, who are the people of Syria with? [/ Quote]

    There was nothing left before the election ...
    1. poquello
      poquello 23 November 2013 12: 52
      +1
      [quote = Gemi] And then what is the problem? - They laid down their arms and agreed, held elections.
      That motley Shobla understands that she cannot take power in a legitimate way, so she yells "Assad, go away." Well, who are the people of Syria with? [/ Quote]

      Before the election, there was nothing ... [/ quote]
      Well, this is probably the problem of the opposition, which has been screaming instead of dialogue, although IMHO there is time.
  19. vkrav
    vkrav 23 November 2013 02: 39
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    It's just that oppositions provide an opportunity to change the owner ... Although the option "the evil spirits beat in their chest and wore each other out" (c) seems unlikely to me, despite the attractiveness laughing
  20. ZU-23
    ZU-23 23 November 2013 13: 10
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    The secular opposition is in the rzhach, it would be better of course they were hammering together militants, but the opposition is then afraid to sit behind its deeds, since it has not been moderate for a long time and is mired in cannibalism.