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China has installed on its territory super-weapons of Saddam Hussein

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China has installed on its territory super-weapons of Saddam Hussein

Military experts have found two objects in the satellite imagery of Chinese territory, allegedly being long-range artillery installations. Apparently, they may have similarities with theweapons Saddam Hussein, "Project Babylon".


The complex with two 33,5 and 24 meter-long guns mounted on a concrete base was mounted in the desert to the north-west of the city of Baotou (Inner Mongolia, Suiyuan Province, China). It was first seen by experts back in the 2010 year, but new images, dated July 2013, confirmed that the objects observed were long-range artillery installations.

For the first time, the long-range artillery in the People's Republic of China was investigated in the 1970s, when the Chinese created the first long-range Xianfeng cannon, which was to become part of the missile defense system, but the project was closed. In 1990, China showed an interest in the technology of Canadian engineer Gerald Bull, who worked in the US and Canada on the High Altitude Research Project (HARP), a long-range weapon capable of launching artificial Earth satellites. After the United States abandoned the project, Bull began working in 1980 for the Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, who was going to use this weapon (codenamed "Project Babylon") to achieve a break in the Iran-Iraq war.

Bull was shot dead in 1990 in Brussels (according to some sources, the Israeli intelligence was behind the murder, Mossad), and Hussein did not have time to implement the "Project Babylon". Perhaps, China decided to test this technology, since no one has yet been able to fully implement the original idea of ​​Bull.

The project HARP and "Project Babylon" meant the creation of giant guns with a barrel length of about 30-40 meters. Before a shot in the barrel, an artificial vacuum was created and a projectile weighing several hundred kilograms flew out of it at a speed of 13000 km / h. Theoretically, with the help of this weapon one could launch satellites into low orbit or, conversely, knock them down. However, the guns seen in China are shorter than the planned length of the “Project Babylon” cannon - the 45,7 meter.

According to the assumption of the military analytical agency Jane's, the observed weapon may also be the prototype of the “railgun”, a pulsed electrode mass accelerator, also potentially capable of sending satellites into orbit. However, it requires a powerful source of energy, while next to the installation of this is not available.

According to foreign media.
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  1. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 20 November 2013 09: 44
    +5
    In all likelihood, they may resemble Saddam Hussein's miracle weapon, Project Babylon.

    The Chinese have clearly communized with Iraq .. laughing Well, people have time everywhere ...)))
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 20 November 2013 09: 47
      +1
      According to the assumption of the military analytical agency Jane's, the observed weapon may also be the prototype of the “railgun”, a pulsed electrode mass accelerator, also potentially capable of sending satellites into orbit. However, it requires a powerful source of energy, while next to the installation of this is not available.

      It is not available now, but three months will pass and a new power station will appear, copied from Saddam laughing
    2. Grandson of Veteran
      Grandson of Veteran 20 November 2013 10: 17
      0
      Lord again?!? Yesterday all day long theorized how this "superweapon" would shoot down satellites in low orbits. Suppose the Chinese are building a meteorite defense complex today? laughing
    3. major071
      major071 20 November 2013 10: 23
      +7
      They copied it, but now they’re sitting and thinking, why is it and why is it? And what is it? And THIS, meanwhile, is rusting. laughing
  2. leon-iv
    leon-iv 20 November 2013 09: 45
    0
    Saw a little like real. Although they do not care in the era of missile weapons there is no sense in them.
  3. bomg.77
    bomg.77 20 November 2013 09: 47
    +1
    "Project Babylon" meant the creation of giant guns with a barrel length of about 30-40 meters.
    Also, as far as I know, this weapon was called the "Fist of Allah"
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 20 November 2013 10: 23
      +3
      Quote: bomg.77
      Also, as far as I know, this weapon was called the "Fist of Allah"

      Then the whales will shoot with them shouting allahu akbar wassat
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 20 November 2013 10: 41
        +4
        Charging the Tibetans in them and shoot towards Japan wassat
      2. Arbana
        Arbana 20 November 2013 20: 51
        0
        Yeah, an unforgettable sight should be, I would like to see it laughing wassat
  4. Hudo
    Hudo 20 November 2013 09: 49
    0
    If there is extra money, why not experiment with the idea of ​​how a fly buzzes in the minds of scientists since the time of Jules Verne - surely something will come out as a result, not the product itself, but technology, operating time and design experience.
  5. Oskar
    Oskar 20 November 2013 09: 49
    0
    Where will they shoot, the guns are stationary obviously ... Or prototypes?
    Baotou is a deep rear, sort of.
    Interesting about her range.
    1. Felix200970
      Felix200970 20 November 2013 16: 40
      0
      I would like to hear the opinion of an artillery specialist. I have the opinion that long-range barrel artillery is a weak result with tremendous investment. An example of the same Germans during the Second World War. Although the calculations are becoming more accurate and faster recourse
    2. hrych
      hrych 20 November 2013 19: 01
      +2
      Oh, by the way, where is she going?
  6. major071
    major071 20 November 2013 09: 58
    +7
    Judging by the photo, it looks like an old fallen pipe of a village boiler room. laughing
  7. wasjasibirjac
    wasjasibirjac 20 November 2013 10: 20
    0
    Well, who thought it was a missile defense system and is capable of shooting down satellites in orbit. the first space velocity is 7,9 km / s. 13000000: 3600 = 3611,111111111111 m / s, i.e. the speed is 2,4 times lower than the orbital speed, and can shoot a couple of hundred kilometers. but further figs.
  8. SEM
    SEM 20 November 2013 10: 21
    +1
    Who knows what and how it works and generally what it is. Maybe China will become the ancestor of some kind of new weapon based on new principles previously unknown to people and then we will catch up with them.
  9. Asgard
    Asgard 20 November 2013 10: 25
    +3
    Hypersound speed
    ..... if the cannon can also create a vacuum, then, further, a medium with a high oxygen content (density)), which means a plasma effect on the projectile and its further destruction (gradual, but quick)) if there are defects in the manufacture ( that instant)))
    In space, do not fly with a gun))))
    Although in the Middle Ages, such projects were considered- Remember Jules Verne with his Cannon cast in the ground, 250 meters long, from which they even circled the moon)))))
    But any engineer knows that gases can burn at a speed of no more than 5 m / s, expanding in the barrel, which means that theoretically you can shoot a projectile at that speed (although in practice it’s slightly less))) friction loss and inertia of the projectile) will eat up some of the energy) )))

    Electromagnetic is yes, but the costs are colossal, the efficiency of such a gun is 7%, the rest of the energy does not participate in any way in the acceleration of the "blank", since the electromagnetic field is created outside the trajectory (and the same power))))

    Dead end branch of development)))))
    1. Ogogoshka
      Ogogoshka 20 November 2013 11: 05
      +1
      Quote: Asgard
      Dead end branch of development)))))


      they thought differently

      http://epizodsspace.no-ip.org/bibl/tm/1991/3/vavilon.html
    2. chunga-changa
      chunga-changa 20 November 2013 12: 59
      +1
      Quote: Asgard
      But any engineer knows that gases can burn at a speed of no more than 5m / s
      Are they expanding? If "the gases burn no faster than 5m / s" how is the initial velocity of the projectile obtained, let's say for "Msta" - 810 m / s. The expansion (pressure) of gases does the work in barrel artillery; it does not depend on the rate of combustion, but on the density, temperature and mass of the projectile. This cannon can be at least pneumatic if the required gas parameters are achieved.
      1. Asgard
        Asgard 20 November 2013 15: 47
        0
        I apologize (I write from the phone)) of course, 5 km / s)) well, and then in the text ....
        cit. chunga-changa ....... in the barrel artillery does expansion (pressure) of gases, it depends not on the burning rate, but on the density ...

        There I wrote THEORETICALLY)))) ideally in the sands of China))))

        Quote: Ogogoshka
        they thought differently

        Bull (the guy is not bad), but He completely ignored the behavior of the projectile already at the exit from the gun is his main mistake
        Well, + He wanted to disperse the shell with successive explosions and considered purely mathematically 5km \ s + 5km \ s + 5km \ s ... and thought that he would achieve greater speed .... 13 ooh \ s (with losses)))
        And it turns out at the exit = 5km \ s)))) physics class 7 of the Soviet school ...

        It is a pity that comrades from China, Saddam Hussein and engineer Bull did not study in it))))))))
        But for questions +
        1. chunga-changa
          chunga-changa 20 November 2013 16: 19
          +1
          excellent short article about top speed art. shell http://ivanstrezhnev.appspot.com/3/3.html The conclusion is that, in the Iraq-China system, active-rockets should be used to enter space. Or apply other chemical or physical sources of energy to launch the projectile.
          And the question is in the order of general development, what kind of gas burns at a speed of 5km / s? Or do you mean something else.
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  10. vlad0
    vlad0 20 November 2013 10: 52
    +2
    Guidance system drives are obviously driven by the efforts of 100000 Chinese.
    laughing
  11. AK-47
    AK-47 20 November 2013 11: 00
    0
    Perhaps these are prototypes of artillery guns designed to engage targets at a great distance with corrected or homing projectiles of the "Copperhead" type.
  12. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 20 November 2013 11: 07
    +1
    Judging by that. that the tool is rusty, it is simply abandoned and no work is carried out with it.
    1. ICT
      ICT 20 November 2013 17: 18
      0
      PHOTOS only from the island of Barbados, HARP project, year 1964
      , firing range guns 400 km
  13. nemec55
    nemec55 20 November 2013 11: 55
    0
    Someone balamutes the water. I am far from artillery, but this fluff is very slow and in the global war and in the regional war, the enemy’s troops will pass by.
  14. makarov
    makarov 20 November 2013 13: 46
    0
    All the same, one thing is not clear: - "Breathe" in which direction are they directed?
  15. makarov
    makarov 20 November 2013 13: 46
    0
    All the same, one thing is not clear: - "Breathe" in which direction are they directed?
  16. Clueless
    Clueless 20 November 2013 15: 07
    0
    a long time ago in the Technique of Youth, or in the Young Technique there was a description of a similar project, though they wanted to use it to put radioactive debris into space, such as not burying it on the planet, but pulled it towards the sun and tryndets
  17. spirit
    spirit 20 November 2013 16: 42
    0
    Well, they will reach Taiwan)))))
  18. Keeper
    Keeper 20 November 2013 17: 30
    0
    Hmm, a wonderful weapon ... And where is this Saddam now ?!
  19. uzer 13
    uzer 13 20 November 2013 19: 45
    0
    No need to joke like that, otherwise the gullible military will now begin to build a new frontier of defense.
    1. sasska
      sasska 20 November 2013 21: 57
      +1
      how, again, the Great Wall of China ??
      Really, China will begin to enclose?
  20. sasska
    sasska 20 November 2013 21: 55
    +3
    Military experts found two objects on the new satellite images of Chinese territory, presumably being long-range artillery mounts.

    but I'm very interested: and whose eSCperts were? aren’t those that they discovered atomic weapons in Iraq ??
    if they are the same, then it’s strange that they didn’t find the flying saucers of New Swabia either (and they were there - they were definitely winked simple, well camouflaged)
  21. kelevra
    kelevra 14 December 2013 12: 18
    0
    The Chinese took the habit from our oligarchs to buy all kinds of junk for fun and scare people!