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ATRA Javelin

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ATRA Javelin



DESCRIPTION
Javelin (Spear, Javelin) - medium anti-tank system designed for infantry, reconnaissance and combat engineering units. These forces should be able to hit enemy armored forces during the day, at night, and in conditions of limited visibility. Javelin can be used by one soldier or by a calculation of two or three soldiers. Javelin can be transported by a separate parachutist, railway and road transport, by water or by air.

This system has a high level of destruction of all known armored vehicles in a wide range of ranges, day / night and under adverse weather conditions. The soft launch of the system allows you to fire from closed combat positions or from the premises.

The modular structure used in Javelina allows the system to be improved to meet changing threats and demands through software and hardware updates. The system consists of a reusable command-and-start unit (CPB) with an integrated self-monitoring system and a modular missile in a transport-launch container. The system also includes tactical training, classroom training and handling exercises.



The Javelin "shot-forgot" system allows the operator to fire a shot and immediately take cover in order to change the combat position or reload the complex. Compared with Dragon ATGM (M47 Dragon), the Javelin has a high lethality due to the use of a tandem warhead that is effective against all the armored vehicles known to date. The system is equally effective for both stationary and moving targets. The Javelina range is 2.5 times the Dragon ATGM, has a day and night vision system, and is capable of detecting targets in adverse weather conditions and through obstacles inherent in the battlefield.

An additional objective of the system is to destroy bunkers and provide defense against attacking / hovering helicopters. In recent conflicts, the CPB was also used as a stand-alone device for monitoring the battlefield and selecting targets.

ATGM Javelin is a direct replacement for Dragon M47 ATGM.

Command start block (CPB) M98A1
KBP M98A1 is a reusable part of the Javelin complex. The CPB contains a day sight, night sight, controls and indicators. The main components of the CPB are: the body, shock absorbers, handles, battery compartment, day sight, night sight, eyepiece, test plug and round interface plug. The command and launch unit is attached transport transport launch container.



Housing. The CPB housing contains the system electronics, display, day and night sights.

Shock absorbers. Shock absorbers around the enclosure of the CPB are designed to protect equipment during its use. Dampers are replaceable items. One shock absorber is also a protective shield protecting the face of the operator during a rocket launch.

Handles. To hold the PCB, the operator uses the handles located on the sides of the PCB case. For all operations with Javeline operator uses the controls located on the handles.

Battery compartment. The disposable battery BA-5590 / U or the rechargeable BB390A battery (for training use only) is located in the battery compartment located in the lower part of the main body of the battery compartment. The same batteries are used in single-channel ground and airborne radio systems (SINCGARS) and are interchangeable with PBC. The battery compartment connector is attached to the corresponding battery connector. The handle holds the removable battery cover in place.

Day Sight. It works like a telescope and consists of a lens, status indicators and a monocular.
- provides the operator with the image in the visible spectrum with 4-fold increase for target recognition and observation of the battlefield;
- can be used with the power off only for observation (in order to save battery power);
- does not depend on infrared interference.

Night Vision Scope (NVD). The NVD is the main viewfinder used by the operator. NVD is an infrared system (I²R) that can be used both during the day and at night. This allows the operator to observe in conditions of limited visibility, including total darkness, smoke, fog, inclement weather and infrared interference. The NVD converts the infrared image of the target into an image in the visible spectrum necessary for the operator. The NVD consists of a lens, a Dewar cooler for the detector, a PBC display and a monocular that provides the gunner with 4 multiple and 9 multiple magnification for detecting and identifying targets.

- Dewar cooler for the detector. It cools the night vision scope to the required operating temperature and converts the infrared energy into electrical signals. These signals are transmitted to the CPB display by means of a signal processing device in order to provide the operator with an image of the target area.
—The PBC display resembles a miniature television by means of which the operator has the ability to use a wide and narrow field of view, as well as use it as an infrared surveillance device.
—The Electron Beam Tube (CRT) converts the electrical signals of a signal processing device into images visible to the operator.
—The PBC status indicators are fourteen icons located along the perimeter of the PBC display. The icons identify operating modes, conditions and faults presented in green, yellow and red colors. The icons provide the operator with continuous information on the current readiness of the rocket or on possible system malfunctions, visible day and night.
—The monocular allows the operator to see the PBC display. Through the monocular, the operator sees daytime vision, wide and narrow night vision fields, the field of vision of the homing head and system status indicators. A monpcular consists of a lens, an eyecup and an adjustment ring for diopters. The operator uses the diopter adjustment ring to adjust the sharpness of the image.
—The control plug is used to perform immediate maintenance work or to maintain a higher level and interaction with training equipment.
- The round interface connector provides the electrical connection between the PBC and the rocket.
—The humidity indicator displays the state of air inside the CPB (white or blue is an acceptable level; pink indicates maintenance is required).

ROCKET

The rocket in the transport and launch container consists of the cylindrical transport and launch container, the power supply and cooling unit, and the rocket itself. The rocket has a 10-year storage life. The only requirement for maintenance is inventory control.



The transport and launch container serves as a launching platform and a rocket transfer container. It is a solid structure made of carbon fiber with epoxy resin (carbon). The transport and launch container protects the rocket from environmental influences prior to launch. All other components are mounted on the outside of the container. After the launch of the rocket, the transport and launch container is discarded.



The power and cooling unit contains the battery compartment and the refrigerant section (compressed gas). Before launching the rocket, the coolant cools the homing head of the rocket to the required temperature. The power and cooling unit is a one-time item, valid for about 4 minutes. Immediately after the launch of the rocket, the spent power supply and cooling unit is discarded along with the transport and launch container.

ROCKET MANAGEMENT


The rocket consists of sections of guidance, the main part, the warhead, the propulsion system and the drive control section.

Guidance system provides target tracking and flight control signals. This system is located in the front of the rocket and includes a homing head and an electronic guidance unit.

-Section homing heads includes an infrared missile detector and a warhead fuse. This system allows the operator to operate in the "shot-forgotten" mode. During the flight of the missile to the target, this system tracks the target and sends information about the location of the target to the electronic control unit.

Electronic block guidance performs two functions: it controls the GOS so that it always stays on the target and sends signals to the drive section so that the missile is aimed at the target.



Main part A missile includes a missile shell, an electronic protection system, the deployment of a warhead on a combat platoon and firing, wings and the main charge of the warhead.

Rocket shell It is a structural part and provides protection for internal components in flight. When the rocket is located in the transport and launch container, the wings are in the folded state in the slots of the rocket shell and unfold after the rocket leaves the transport and launch container.
Electronic protection system, putting a warhead on a platoon and firing (ESAF) is the primary safety measure to prevent accidental starting of engines and accidental detonation of a warhead. The system consists of an electrical circuit and two detonators (one for the leader, the other for the main charge). The ESAF system controls the rocket launch sequence and warhead detonation. It allows you to launch rocket engines in the correct sequence when the operator presses the trigger and all other firing conditions are met. When a rocket hits the target, the system consistently triggers every warhead.
-Wings provide climb and stabilize the rocket during the flight.


Rocket Javelin equipped with a tandem warhead consisting of leading and main charges.
Lead charge is cumulative and is designed to neutralize the dynamic protection of armored vehicles located on the main armor before it reaches the main charge. After neutralizing the dynamic protection, the main body of the target remains open to the main warhead. In the absence of a dynamic defense target, the leading charge provides additional armor penetration of the rocket.
Main charge is the second in the tandem warhead and also represents a shaped charge. His main task is to break through the main armor and the destruction of technology.


Propulsion system consists of starting and marching engines.
Starting engine removes the rocket from the transport and launch container. It attaches to the rocket the initial acceleration and removes it at a safe distance for the operator before the main engine turns on. The starting engine is completely burned out before the rocket leaves the transport and launch container, which also ensures that the launch is inconspicuous.
Marching engine works throughout the flight of the rocket to the target. It is launched when the rocket is at a safe distance from the operator, thereby protecting him from the jet of hot exhaust gases.


Drive control section allows the rocket to maneuver during flight and provides internal electrical energy. The drive control section consists of four flaps, four engines with thrust vector control and a thermal battery.
Flaps maneuver the rocket during the flight. Under the action of the springs, the flaps automatically open and fixed in the flight position after the rocket leaves the transport and launch container. During the flight, they automatically adjust to guide the missile at the target.
Thrust vectoring helps the flaps of the rocket to maneuver during flight by deflecting the main engine nozzle. They change the angle of the thrust of the main engine, which leads to a change in the flight path of the rocket.
Thermal battery provides a flying rocket with internal electrical energy. The battery is located in the rocket body.

POSITION OF SHOOTING

Sitting



From the knee



Lying down (on the front cap)



Correct shooting position


SHOOTING
The operator can select one of the other attack modes of the target: from the top or in a straight line. Each mode has its own profile and flight path.



Top Attack Mode is the default mode when activating the homing system. In this attack mode, a rocket hits a target at the top of its part. This feature allows the operator to attack armored vehicles from the front, rear, or sides, and significantly increases the probability of destroying the target. The upper part of the armored vehicles are usually weaker protected. Attacking a target from above also makes it impossible for the enemy’s equipment to hide behind the front cover. The minimum firing range is 150 meters.



The exact profile of the rocket’s flight path depends on the distance to the target and is automatically determined by the onboard software of the rocket. When firing at a target located at a distance of 2000 meters, the rocket reaches a height of about 160 meters above the battlefield. If the target is under a protective canopy, then shooting in the attack mode from above will lead to the detonation of the rocket at the shelter, and not at the target. In such cases, the operator can choose the mode of direct attack.



Direct attack mode can only be selected after cooling the homing and before capturing the target. To change the attack mode, the operator needs to switch the ATTK SEL toggle switch located on the right-hand grip (to a position away from itself). In direct attack mode, a rocket follows a more direct trajectory. The rocket hits and detonates on the side projection of the target (in front, behind or from the side). The shortest firing range is 65 meters.


The exact profile of the rocket’s flight path depends on the distance to the target and is automatically determined by the onboard software of the rocket. When firing at a target located at a distance of 2000 meters, the rocket reaches a height of about 60 meters above the battlefield. This trajectory allows the rocket to reach the target under a protective canopy.


BURIAL FLAME
The cause of the behind-the-scenes flame Javelina is the starting and sustainer engines. Javelin has almost no recoil since gases escape through the back weapons. This, in turn, may cause damage to the backfire flame of the equipment or seriously injure the personnel being too close to the rear of the transport and launch canister during firing.


Javelina’s area of ​​backfire flame is within 100 meters to the rear and up to 25 meters away from the launcher and forms a dangerous zone in 60 °. It is divided into the primary most dangerous zone and two less dangerous zones.

—The main danger zone is a sector of 60 ° whose top is at the rear end of the rocket's starting engine. The radius of the main danger zone is about 25 meters. In this zone, people can get seriously injured or even die. Part of the main danger zone is also distributed before the launcher, it ranges from 1 to 5 meters to the left and right of the center of the launcher.
—The less dangerous zone 1 is radially (25 meters) spread on each side of the main danger zone. Being in this zone during shooting may cause serious hearing damage to the fighters or other damage. In this zone, fighters should always wear noise protection headphones and goggles.
—Lessous 2 danger zone covers 100 meter radius to the rear of the launcher and 60 ° sector. A less dangerous 2 zone is a continuation of the rear of the main danger zone. Fighters who are shooting at 10 meters behind the main danger zone may suffer hearing impairment and eye damage. In this area, they should always wear noise protection headphones and goggles.

OPPORTUNITIES OF THE COMPLEX
Advantages:

—The Javelin's greatest firing range is 2000 meters.
—Javelin has a shot-and-forget system. The infrared missile guidance system (I²R) allows it, after launching, to aim independently at the target.
—Javelin has two attack modes:
—The top-down attack mode allows you to affect the least protected upper part of the target.
—The direct attack mode is designed to affect a side projection (front, rear, side) of the target.
“Operator Javelina is capable of launching up to three missiles within 2 minutes.
—The tandem cumulative warhead is capable of hitting any armored vehicles known to date.
—The night-vision glimpse (NVD) does not degrade the image of the target much.
- Countermeasures used by the enemy are compensated by the NVD filter.
—Javalin is a portable complex.
—Javel maneuverable at short distances.
—The shot-and-forget system allows the operator to shoot and take cover even before the rocket reaches the target.
—Javelina’s soft start allows its use from inside buildings and bunkers.
—The passive infrared guidance system used to capture a target cannot be detected by the enemy.
—The starting engine has low visibility. Blessed with Javelin’s relatively weak behind-the-scenes flame, it can be applied with a smaller, more difficult to detect, better protected position that gives the operator more chance to go unnoticed or, if found, to survive any return fire.
—The shot-and-forget system allows the operator to take cover immediately after the launch of the rocket.

Limitations:

—CBP does not allow target identification at distances over 2000 meters.
—The time of cooling the NVD is from 2.5 to 3.5 minutes.
- The cooling time of the GOS is about 10 seconds.
—The duration of operation of the power supply and cooling unit after activation is about 4-s minutes.
—In a time of limited visibility (natural or artificial), rain, snow, sleet, fog, smoke, smoke, dust, and night together are referred to as the conditions of limited visibility. The day sight may be useless under these conditions.
-Night:
—The day sight uses daylight to provide an operator with a target image.
—The PNV uses the natural infrared radiation of objects. The infrared crossover at dawn and dusk is very close to the temperature allowing the target to merge with the terrain. In the case when the difference in the amount of infrared energy of the target and the background is low enough, neither Javelina’s PBC, nor its GOS are able to distinguish the target. This greatly reduces the performance of Javelina. This situation can last up to an hour, until either the background temperature or the temperature of the target changes so much that it is possible to detect the target.
—Natural interference, for example, the sun can heat objects to a target that is close enough to the temperature that merges with the terrain.
—An artificial noise appears in the presence of artificial objects emitting a large amount of infrared energy (for example, burning vehicles).
- Heavy fog reduces the ability of the operator to detect targets and fire.
—The rocket’s flight trajectory limits its use in wooded, mountainous and urban areas.
—The operator must have a direct visibility of the target by the homing head to capture the target.
—Weather Javelina slows down marches with him over long distances. When using Javelina in foot orders, the load on the soldier greatly increases. With a total system weight slightly less than 22-kg, Javelin is quite heavy. Despite the fact that Javelin is a portable complex, one soldier is not able to carry it easily on rough terrain for a long period.
The transport-launch container Javelina is bulky and restricts its movement with it in densely overgrown thickets.
“The operator must remain partially open by exposing himself to enemy fire.”
—The CFP requires direct visibility to capture targets.

City fight:
—Javelin is primarily used to defeat tanks and other armored fighting vehicles. It has limited ability to hit bunkers, buildings, and other fortified targets commonly encountered during hostilities in populated areas.
—The minimum firing distance limits the use of the complex in densely built areas. Javelin can not be the main choice in combat operations in an urban environment where additional considerations have to be taken into account, including: fires can lead to the loss of a target to problems with its capture; interference on the battlefield can also cause problems with target acquisition and the aiming line can be limited to buildings.
—The unique flight trajectory of Javelina forces the operator to think in three dimensions. Urban development contains obstacles, such as road signs, lampposts and wires, which may be in the path of a rocket flight. When the top attack mode rocket Javelina takes about 160 with more than a meter of height reserve. In the direct attack mode, Javelin needs up to more than 60 extra height headroom.
—The minimum firing range of Javelina (150 meters in attack mode from above and 65 meters in direct attack mode) imposes a restriction on its use in populated areas. Only not many cases in urban combat allow the operator to fire outside the minimum range of fire. An operator is usually limited to firing along streets, railway lines, parks or squares. Javelin allows you to effectively fire from the upper floors of buildings or roofs of buildings on other buildings.
—When the operator gets the opportunity to hit the target, he may simply not have time to take advantage of this opportunity. The cooling time of the NVD is from 2.5 to 3.5 minutes. The cooling time of the GOS is about 10 seconds. From the moment the power and cooling unit is activated, the operator has a maximum of 4 minutes to hit the target. After this, the unit must be replaced. Shooting at vehicles crossing the street or moving between buildings is possible only for 10-15 seconds, that is, the operator may not have enough time to secure the target and launch a rocket.
—The soft start allows the operator to fire from inside buildings due to the fact that a slight overpressure or little flying debris is created.
—The tandem warhead is capable of penetrating typical urban targets. Breaking through does not mean simultaneous destruction of the structure. For attacking buildings, direct attack mode is selected. Enemy positions or bunkers located at a distance of no more than 150 meters are affected using the direct attack mode. Located at a distance of more than 150 meters are affected using either the direct attack mode or the top attack, depending on the situation.
—Javel is not effective for breaking load-bearing walls. Anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM) are not designed for the effective destruction of load-bearing walls. All ATGMs including Javelins are designed to create a small hole and penetrate armor. The destruction of the walls involves the creation of a large hole. The use of ATGM is the least effective means of destruction of load-bearing walls. ATGM is better to use against armored vehicles or for the destruction of enemy fortified combat positions.
—For firing at helicopters, Javevelin should be used in direct attack mode. Helicopter rotors can adversely affect rocket sensors in the top attack mode and lead to an unpredictable rocket flight and loss of a target.

Performance characteristics
Alternative designation - Medium modern anti-tank complex (AAWS-M)
Country of origin - USA
Date of adoption - 1996,
Calculation - 1-3 rights
Weight— kgnumx

Command start block (CPB) M98A1
Weight— 6.42 kg, including battery, carrying bag and cleaning kit
Dimensions (LxWxH) —348.2x499.1x338.8 mm
The multiplicity of day sight - 4X
Field of view day sight - 4.80 ° x6.40 °
The multiplicity of night sight with a wide field of view - 4.2X
Wide Range Night Sight - 4,58 ° x 6,11 °
The multiplicity of night sight with a narrow field of view - 9.2X
Field of view night sight - 2.00 ° x 3.00 ° (approximately)
Battery type - Lithium Sulfur Dioxide (LiSO2) BA-5590 / U, disposable
Battery life - 4 hours at temperatures below 49 ° C; 3 hours ranging from 10 ° C to 49 ° C; 1 hour at a temperature of from –49 ° С to 10 ° С; 0.5 hours at temperatures above 49 ° C
Battery weight - 1.0 kg
Price - $ 126000 (2002 g.)

Rocket in the transport and launch container and power supply and cooling unit
Weight— kgnumx
Length - 1209 mm
Diameter with a plug - 298.5 mm
Internal diameter - 140.2 mm
The smallest firing range: when attacking on a hinged trajectory -150 m; when attacking in a straight path -65 m
Maximum range of effective fire - 2000 m
Flight time - about 4.6 seconds to a distance of 1000 meters; 14.5 seconds to 2000 meters
The guidance system is infrared, "shot-forget"
Price - $ 78000 (2002 g.)

Power and Cooling Unit (BCU)
Weight - 1.32 kg
Dimensions (L x W) - 207.3 x 117.6 mm
Type - lithium disposable
Lifetime - 4 minutes
Argon refrigerant
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  1. makarov
    makarov 15 November 2013 08: 03
    +2
    Yes, of course, the information is informative, but there is just no coverage of the topic of the confrontation with an active tank protection system. And it (this system), despite the high cost, is being introduced everywhere. So the described unit in a year or three, except for Africa, will not be needed by anyone. But the thing is not cheap.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 15 November 2013 11: 30
      16
      Do not say, in comparison with the price of the tank, the cost of a Jewel’s penny. And when attacking from above, the effectiveness of active defense is reduced. It's a shame of course to admit, but the thing from the pendos turned out to be of high quality.
    2. Professor
      Professor 15 November 2013 12: 04
      11
      Quote: makarov
      And it (this system), despite the high cost, is being introduced everywhere.

      You already enlighten pliz where, in addition to the 401th Brigade, the Tsakhal is in service with KAZ. Regarding Africa, tens of thousands of Javelins were produced.
      1. makarov
        makarov 17 November 2013 07: 39
        0
        SW Oleg.
        Under the word "is being introduced", the semantic meaning is being introduced (put into service) in 16 countries, the system is being put into service. It's official.
      2. makarov
        makarov 17 November 2013 08: 10
        0
        PS
        Uv. Oleg. Sori. "You really will enlighten pliz where, in addition to the 401st brigade, the IDF is in service with KAZ.
        Why educate there? the first systems were introduced back in the days of the USSR. At the moment, you can buy KAZ Zaslon, as they say, any whim. With regards to "the 401st brigade of the IDF is in service with the KAZ", I will help with the material "The Israeli system of active protection of tanks" Trophy ", like any other similar system, can be overcome", but the address http://vpk.name/news/33520_izrailskaya_sistema_aktivnoi_zashityi_trofi_trofi
        k_i_lyubaya_drugaya_podobnaya_sistema_preodolimyi.html
        To health. Read.
        1. Professor
          Professor 17 November 2013 10: 57
          0
          Quote: makarov
          SW Oleg.
          Under the word "is being introduced", the semantic meaning is being introduced (put into service) in 16 countries, the system is being put into service. It's official.

          In 16 countries officially? Let’s list, I don’t believe in a word.

          Quote: makarov
          the first systems were introduced back in Soviet times

          You have a very broad interpretation of the term "embedded". But here, too, you are wrong. For the first time, KAZ was developed and tested (in your opinion, implemented) by the Americans on the T-60 tank and they did it before the USSR. I'm wondering where the KAZ was put into service, where it stands not on prototypes, but in regular troops?

          Quote: makarov
          For today, you can buy KAZ Barrier, as they say any whim.

          "Can buy" and "bought and adopted" are slightly different. fellow

          Quote: makarov
          "The Israeli system of active protection of Trophy tanks, like any other similar system, is surmountable."

          Are you trying to discover America? Pe surmountable (not breakable) there are only idiots.
          By article:
          Meanwhile, 20 years ago, Russia fully tested and prepared for serial production the world's first active protection system for tanks "Arena", which was designed at the Kolomna Machine Building Design Bureau.

          not true

          RPG-30 easily overcomes such a protection system

          Wait and see. To date, KAZ has successfully intercepted everything that was shot at it in battle, including the Namer armored personnel carrier. lol
    3. badger1974
      badger1974 20 November 2013 19: 00
      +1
      I’m in the second article exactly about this, Reyton and Patriot were the first to be guessed, so Javelin, very dubious results
  2. DMB 1995
    DMB 1995 15 November 2013 08: 04
    +8
    It's nice to just read the laconic performance characteristics. Clearly, dry only the facts. Good! Now, if you add another photo or video corresponding)
    1. sergey261180
      sergey261180 15 November 2013 08: 27
      +9
      Well, with the explosion there is complete rubbish. They put 40 kilos of TNT into the tank for effect, and the tank seems to be not real either.
      1. Professor
        Professor 15 November 2013 12: 05
        0
        Quote: sergey261180
        Well, with the explosion there is complete rubbish. They put 40 kilos of TNT into the tank for effect, and the tank seems to be not real either.

        They laid in the tank exclusively full-time ammunition.
        1. Zymran
          Zymran 15 November 2013 12: 27
          +3
          http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?12440-About-that-poor-T-72-k
          illed-by-Javelin-on-official-vid&s=aecabbe6bb853e0a0ffc177bda9b13d3

          Two letter options from Robert C. Reid Director Office of Ethics and Business Conduct Lockheed Martin Corporation

          In one, he says that the tank was filled with explosives, in the other, that there was nothing of the kind. laughing
          1. Kars
            Kars 15 November 2013 12: 34
            +2
            The professor says that the full-fledged BC is loaded. So maybe let him bring a similar explosion from the T-72 explosion from Syria? Something there are so many tanks wrecked and there is no similar explosion.
            1. tlauicol
              tlauicol 15 November 2013 12: 54
              0
              For example. "Competition" and T 72
              1. Kars
                Kars 15 November 2013 14: 04
                +2
                It’s strange, some kind of video. The tank goes slowly backwards, there are no bulwarks. Although, by the way, there is little to do with Javelin with his top shot. Here he goes to Korma and Kornet. Although it’s an odd instant detonation anyway.





                1. tlauicol
                  tlauicol 15 November 2013 15: 25
                  0
                  what's so strange? or do you think that these are Syrian fighters Soviet / Russian complexes advertise? captured the tank, loaded with TNT and exponentially shot? - rich, however.
                  ordinary combat episode. or in Tskhinval, remember that tank destroyed from a grenade launcher
            2. sapran
              sapran 15 November 2013 17: 53
              +2
              The explosion may be staged, but for more than a year now I have not seen in a video from Syria that they travel even with 1/3 of the BC. only in AZ 5-7 shells. no laying in the tower and the driver. came out gave a series and shot on smoots or shot and then only drive a tower. Otherwise fireworks.
              1. tlauicol
                tlauicol 15 November 2013 18: 18
                +1
                Otherwise, fireworks. (C)
                - i.e. You do not deny the colorful fire show in the event of a missile or ATG? why then put a minus?
              2. Witold
                Witold 16 November 2013 14: 32
                -3
                Fireworks like from RPG29?
          2. Professor
            Professor 15 November 2013 13: 37
            +1
            Quote: Zymran
            One Letter from Robert C. Reid Director Office of Ethics and Business Conduct Lockheed Martin Corporation

            In one, he says that the tank was filled with explosives, in the other, that there was nothing of the kind.

            Well you give. This has been discussed 1000 times. There, by the way, the phone of this frame is laid out. Have you tried calling? I tried. They answer on the switch that such a citizen does not work for Lockheed Martin Corporation and has never worked. Try it yourself. Telephone 301-897-6000
            1. Zymran
              Zymran 15 November 2013 13: 47
              0
              In short, both options for writing fake? laughing
              1. Professor
                Professor 15 November 2013 14: 04
                +1
                Quote: Zymran
                In short, both options for writing fake? laughing

                No, this is true. wassat Director for ethics!!! (Director Office of Ethics and Business Conduct) answers the forum about the tests ... What do you think? wink

                http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/who-we-are/ethics.html
        2. just exp
          just exp 15 November 2013 12: 30
          +4
          I don’t know whether this video or not, but when at the demonstration of the Javelin’s capabilities after being hit, the T72 pulled like a barrel of gunpowder, it was a dramatization, there was even a scandal about it. stuffed him with explosives at most do not spoil.
        3. Very old
          Very old 17 November 2013 08: 30
          +1
          Professor Oleg: "... exclusively standard ammunition"
          I quite believe, because not cartoons were shot
          And I trust the opinion of colleagues Ingvar 72
    2. Alekseev
      Alekseev 15 November 2013 12: 37
      +2
      Quote: DMB 1995
      It's nice to just read the laconic performance characteristics. Clearly, dry only the facts.

      Laconic performance characteristics - not at all enough to assess the real capabilities of weapons.
      It is interesting, although it is not easy, to find reliable reviews about its combat use. It is buggy or not, like a GOS against interference, etc.
  3. Andreitas
    Andreitas 15 November 2013 08: 28
    -6
    I shot from such a thing in Call of Dauty. It's cool that the rocket first flies up somewhere, then flies into the tank from above. And destroys it. laughing
  4. sergey261180
    sergey261180 15 November 2013 08: 34
    -3
    An amazing rocket. Shot and forgot. Beats from above. The Americans will solve the problem with limiting the seeker by installing multispectral seeker as on the Stinger.
  5. Follow us
    Follow us 15 November 2013 09: 01
    +1
    Interestingly, and "Curtain" is how effective against this thing? Does it work with overhead projection?
    1. sergey261180
      sergey261180 15 November 2013 09: 57
      +1
      The curtain shines only in front of the tower. Side, back and top you can beat. Yes, and it acts, if I'm not mistaken on the radiation detector of the tracer.
      1. Helizer
        Helizer 15 November 2013 12: 59
        +1
        The tower at the tank actually turns in any direction.
    2. beard999
      beard999 15 November 2013 18: 03
      +4
      Quote: Siga
      Interestingly, but "Curtain" is how effective against this thing?

      CEPA "Blind" (including modernized) against matrix thermal imaging (focal plane array) GOS (IIR) is useless. But against such systems passive means of camouflage are quite effective. Even the ancient "Cape". This video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYpwPx--exs (watch from about 6 minutes) shows how a T-72 tank equipped with a “Cape” looks like in a “highly sensitive” thermal imager, from a distance only 25-50 m. There are also more effective protective materials that work specifically in the IR spectrum, for example, RTP-90, which uses the NII Steel in the KPMP kit. Multilayer RPPs based on thin nanostructured films (developed by OJSC Research Institute Ferrit-Domain) that provide equally high absorbing properties both in the microwave and optical and infrared frequency ranges are even more effective. But probably the most interesting is the protective material of the ZME (developer of TsKB RM OJSC). Here's what the ZME says in the journal New Defense Order No. 5/2010, p. 62: “It is designed to hide from enemy reconnaissance equipment and protect the armored technology (IWT) from modern weapons operating from the upper hemisphere, including the WTO. ZME provides protection for the concealed armored vehicles with a combined flexible coating from cumulative ammunition with homing heads, controlled and unmanaged. ZME triggers instant fuses at safe distances for the protected equipment. ” ZME accepted to supply the Armed Forces of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in 2010.
  6. 128mgb
    128mgb 15 November 2013 09: 04
    +2
    As I understand it, the first shot is about 200 000 thousand, subsequent to 80 000. This is if ideally. Is the toy expensive? And the article is certainly excellent, dry and concise.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 15 November 2013 09: 41
      +8
      Quote: 128mgb
      As I understand it, the first shot is about 200 000 thousand, subsequent to 80 000. This is if ideally. Is the toy expensive? And the article is certainly excellent, dry and concise.

      To fight at all is not cheap.
      1. Eugeniy_369
        Eugeniy_369 15 November 2013 22: 28
        0
        Quote: Pimply
        To fight at all is not cheap.

        yes who would argue laughing
    2. sergey261180
      sergey261180 15 November 2013 10: 04
      +2
      80000 rubles to him a red price, the rest of the wrapping up of the military-industrial bourgeoisie. By the way, Hellfire costs $ 190000.
      1. Professor
        Professor 15 November 2013 12: 08
        +1
        Quote: sergey261180
        80000 rubles to him a red price, the rest of the wrapping up of the military-industrial bourgeoisie. By the way, Hellfire costs $ 190000.

        I translated an article on technological difficulties in creating Javelin. I hope to post it soon. You will read and understand how complicated and expensive this complex is and why everyone doesn’t do such a thing.
    3. Nayhas
      Nayhas 15 November 2013 11: 54
      +1
      Quote: 128mgb
      As I understand it, the first shot is about 200 000 thousand, subsequent to 80 000. This is if ideally. Is the toy expensive? And the article is certainly excellent, dry and concise.

      The Americans came up with an uncooled IR seeker. He will bet on Javelin, which will slightly reduce the size and cost of the order by 30%. This is better than risking people.
  7. Bradley
    Bradley 15 November 2013 09: 54
    +5
    Quote: 128mgb
    As I understand it, the first shot is about 200 000 thousand, subsequent to 80 000. This is if ideally. Is the toy expensive? And the article is certainly excellent, dry and concise.

    So you can find fault with any weapon, no matter how much it costs. Correctly Pimpy wrote.
    Given what ATGM is capable of - no, not expensive.
  8. And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 15 November 2013 11: 04
    +7
    The missile is certainly good, but it is often buggy.
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 15 November 2013 11: 48
      0
      At 46 seconds, your Spike scored. They say the same thing about him.
    2. Professor
      Professor 15 November 2013 12: 55
      +1
      Quote: And Us Rat
      The missile is certainly good, but it is often buggy.

      Often? How often? Any equipment refuses, even Kalashnikov, but what would it seem to refuse? For example, the MTBF (average time between failures) of the Javelin command-and-launch unit is 300 hours with 150 planned. Moreover, the electronic protection system, the deployment of warheads for combat platoon and firing (ESAF) includes a marching engine only in the event of a stable capture of the target seeker. In case of loss of target, a combat platoon does not occur. This apparently can explain the failure of the marching engine in some cases on your video.

      Quote: Nayhas
      At 46 seconds, your Spike scored. They say the same thing about him.

      No dear, this is not Spike, this is Milan. Spike had a failure at night shooting in Peru.
  9. And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 15 November 2013 11: 10
    +1
    Developing the theme - Japanese Type 01 LMAT
  10. And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 15 November 2013 11: 27
    +4
    Swedish MBT LAW (I post only autonomous, shot and forgot, without a beam and wires)
    1. tlauicol
      tlauicol 15 November 2013 12: 56
      +1
      NLAW, this thing - Made wisely!
      1. tlauicol
        tlauicol 15 November 2013 17: 05
        +2
        Swedes posted a new video
        1. Professor
          Professor 15 November 2013 17: 27
          0
          1. Now hurray patriots will come running screaming that the tank was crammed with explosives and hereinafter ...
          2. However, the system is not anti-tank systems, but RPGs and there can be no talk of any homing.
          3. If you already discuss such systems, then IMHO Bill2 rules.
          1. tlauicol
            tlauicol 15 November 2013 18: 32
            0
            at least it does not require accompaniment, like Bill2. Convenient thing: weight, dimensions, min. range, reaction time. He shot and went about his business. For 2s flight, why spend money on homing?
            1. Professor
              Professor 15 November 2013 20: 12
              +3
              Quote: Tlauicol
              He shot and went about his business.

              Any RPG "Shot and went about his business" even the old man RPG 7.
              Bill2 his older brother, the ATGM, is equipped with a double warhead and has a corresponding firing range.
              No doubt, an interesting thing. Especially what hits the roof, but RPGs and ATGMs are different, mutually complementary things. And comparing them is not correct.

              PS
              Speaking of range - 600 m is its limit, but as for the reaction, it’s completely useless at night, in fog in smoke.
              1. tlauicol
                tlauicol 16 November 2013 05: 53
                0
                here it seems they shoot at night. you think lie?
                it’s also difficult to compare with ordinary RPGs - with 600 the probability of defeat is simply not comparable
                1. Shuttle
                  Shuttle 4 September 2015 17: 08
                  0
                  Quote: Tlauicol
                  ... here they seem to shoot at night. you think lie?
                  it’s also difficult to compare with ordinary RPGs - with 600 the probability of defeat is simply not comparable

                  The price (read the quantity) and simplicity (read the mass) of use with the RPG-7 are not comparable at all.
              2. tlauicol
                tlauicol 16 November 2013 06: 21
                0
                like a guidance block from Bill himself. why at night, the fog is useless? request
                1. tlauicol
                  tlauicol 16 November 2013 07: 06
                  0
                  probably the computer does not see what a person sees in optics - did I understand? not paired with IR image? and still at night they worked, judging by the video
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 16 November 2013 08: 52
                    0
                    Quote: Tlauicol
                    like they shoot at night. you think lie?

                    Of course, I exaggerated about shooting a draw, even from RPG7 they shoot at night. I knew the full-time RPG scope on your video.

                    Quote: Tlauicol
                    like a guidance block from Bill himself. why at night, the fog is useless?

                    Compare for yourself:



                    And again, one cannot compare ATGMs with RPGs. They have different niches.
        2. PLO
          PLO 15 November 2013 19: 09
          0
          did you watch your own video?
          I was personally amused by pearls about burning armor with huge pressure, an explosion of superheated gases, and most importantly, detonation IMITATED ammunition lol

          this program is worthy of being in the same outhouse where the "military secret" lives
          1. tlauicol
            tlauicol 15 November 2013 19: 25
            0
            Well, actually, I wanted to throw it on the fan :)
            do not pay attention to the translator, translates as he can. I uploaded the T72 in Syria there - so there is no need for translation. And here it is clear - a picture for Discovery.
            Still, NLAW is a cool thing.
            1. PLO
              PLO 15 November 2013 19: 31
              +3
              I don’t know what you wanted to sketch, that’s not the point

              the bk explosion is undoubtedly a powerful thing, but not a single video of Syria can be compared in power with the T-72 explosion after the javelin.
              just estimate the distance to the target and the size of the fire dome
              it's fake
  11. Zymran
    Zymran 15 November 2013 11: 30
    0
    As far as I remember, it is this rocket that has no "analogs" in the world. laughing
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 15 November 2013 11: 51
      0
      Quote: Zymran
      Type 01 LMAT

      see above, there about analogues.
  12. iConst
    iConst 15 November 2013 11: 30
    0
    Powerful crap, no doubt.

    But with the explosion of the tank - I agree, pure water advertising. There was no dynamic protection, but it would be necessary. Well, the TNT stuffed the tank under the lid ... wink
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  14. And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 15 November 2013 11: 32
    0
    FGM-172 SRAW for close combat
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  16. And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 15 November 2013 11: 41
    +2
    Well, Spike for a snack (it’s two-mode, it can be by wire, or it can be done according to the Javelin principle - it was released and forgotten, at the operator’s choice)
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 15 November 2013 12: 32
      +2
      Video footage in the subject
    2. The fat man
      The fat man 15 November 2013 21: 16
      0
      you do not know what kind of modification spike in our army?
      I'm worried about our foot soldiers after an unsuccessful spike launch in Latin America
  17. mechanic driver
    mechanic driver 15 November 2013 18: 44
    0
    Quote: Professor
    1. Now hurray patriots will come running screaming that the tank was crammed with explosives and hereinafter ...
    2. However, the system is not anti-tank systems, but RPGs and there can be no talk of any homing.
    3. If you already discuss such systems, then IMHO Bill2 rules.

    I don’t know about the cheers of the patriots, but I knew a fighter who from RPG7 fell into the open hatch of the tank, freely it was his trick.
    1. Professor
      Professor 15 November 2013 20: 14
      0
      Quote: mechanic driver
      I don’t know about the cheers of the patriots, but I knew a fighter who from RPG7 fell into the open hatch of the tank, freely it was his trick.

      Well done little, but Javelin strikes equipment at a distance of up to 2000 meters, and RPG7 you know ...
  18. Prapor-527
    Prapor-527 15 November 2013 19: 36
    0
    Quote: Professor
    They laid in the tank exclusively full-time ammunition.
    What power should the BC be, so that the "gusli" is cut to pieces? With an explosion of ammunition, a tank (T-72 at least) will look something like this ...
    1. Professor
      Professor 15 November 2013 20: 18
      0
      Quote: Prapor-527
      In the explosion of an ammunition tank (T-72 at least) will look something like this ...

      And this is how lucky (or how unlucky). I saw a photo from the first Chechen one, there is less from the tank than in the Javelin video.
      1. Cat
        Cat 15 November 2013 20: 41
        +3
        Quote: Professor
        And this is how lucky (or how unlucky). I saw a photo from the first Chechen one, there is less from the tank than in the Javelin video.

        everything happens in the war ... But who and why needed to load the ammunition tank into a tank used as a target at the training ground? Even if you do not take into account the prohibitive cost of such a one-time target - what did the testers want to see? Detonation does not occur at every penetration, much more often - a Maaakhin hole in the armor, and three corpses inside the tank. And no one is going anywhere or shooting at anyone. And precisely this moment, wisely, should interest the ATGM designers - how to ensure a guaranteed incapacitation of a tank in the most large cases of hits, no matter where the rocket hits. Well, BK ... if it detonates - the tank definitely and unconditionally goes into irrevocable ones, no statistics are needed here for nothing.
        Conclusion? Video with a tank taking off into the air - advertising and show-offs for visitors. And nothing more.
        1. Professor
          Professor 15 November 2013 21: 20
          0
          Quote: Cat
          But who and why needed to load the BC into the tank, which is used as a target at the training ground?

          To the bourgeois. So the Swedes did the same. The Javelin program cost hundreds of millions of dollars and therefore they can afford to sacrifice one ancient tank.

          Quote: Cat
          Video with a tank taking off into the air - advertising and show-offs for visitors.

          Not without it. They also tested the T-72 with ammunition.
          1. Cat
            Cat 15 November 2013 22: 04
            +1
            Quote: Professor
            The Javelin program cost hundreds of millions of dollars ....

            Well, yes, with such an approach to the target environment - it’s amazing how they still didn’t reach a billion =)
            Quote: Professor
            Quote: Cat
            Video with a tank taking off into the air - advertising and show-offs for visitors.

            Not without it. They also tested the T-72 with ammunition.

            What's the point? Cooking an anti-tank missile for a specific tank is not the smartest idea. Moreover, the same USSR had as many as three types of MBT, with radically different options for ammunition storage. Not to mention the great multitude of all kinds of pats of anyone's production, who could "in case of something" be targeted.
            As for advertising purposes ... then most likely, in the tank was something more open and explosive than a standard BC (or in addition to it). Otherwise, for the sake of the commercial, to spend expensive rockets with an incomprehensible result (it may or may not) - even non-poor Americans are unlikely to come up with this.
            1. Professor
              Professor 15 November 2013 22: 36
              +1
              Quote: Cat
              Well, yes, with such an approach to the target environment - it’s amazing how they still didn’t reach a billion =)

              I think that they have already passed a billion:
              2009- $ 214 million
              2010- $ 309 million
              ....
              2013- $ 101.5 million
              2014- allocated $ 176 million


              Quote: Cat
              What's the point?

              First of all, show yourself what the money was spent on.

              Quote: Cat
              As for advertising purposes ... then most likely, in the tank was something more open and explosive than a standard BC (or in addition to it).

              "Explosive" is the ammunition load, and "open" is the ammunition rack in AZ.

              Quote: Cat
              Otherwise, for the sake of the commercial, to spend expensive rockets with an incomprehensible result (it may or may not) - even non-poor Americans are unlikely to come up with this.

              Not cheap rockets? Do you know how many were released? Tens of thousands (about 25000). One less, one more.
              1. Cat
                Cat 15 November 2013 23: 20
                +1
                Quote: Professor
                First of all, show yourself what the money was spent on.

                so to speak - excuse for conscience =)))
                Quote: Professor
                Not cheap rockets? Do you know how many were released? Tens of thousands (about 25000). One less, one more.

                um ... given the advertised super-efficiency of Javelin, and comparing it with the number of "live" tanks in all armies combined ... plus not forgetting about the many more anti-tank weapons ... what happens? Either someone is lying, or one of two things.
            2. tlauicol
              tlauicol 16 November 2013 05: 57
              0
              there is still a video where the Swedes Bill 2 Centurion seems set on fire. Also with ammunition. A lot of rave reviews - the tank is not Russian.
              1. Professor
                Professor 16 November 2013 08: 55
                +1
                Quote: Tlauicol
                there is still a video where the Swedes Bill 2 Centurion seems set on fire.

                and it was
                http://www.military.com/video/guided-missiles/antitank-missiles/bill-2-destroyin
                ga-tank / 660287484001 /
                1. tlauicol
                  tlauicol 16 November 2013 09: 49
                  0
                  Well, yes, it is. And no one complains about the production :)
                  I didn’t quite understand about the NLAW sight - what does he have there at night and doesn’t rattle in the fog?
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 16 November 2013 10: 01
                    -1
                    Quote: Tlauicol
                    Well, yes, it is. And no one complains about the production :)

                    So if it was a T-72, then a scream would be ...

                    Quote: Tlauicol
                    I didn’t quite understand about the NLAW sight - what does he have there at night and doesn’t rattle in the fog?

                    The manufacturer mentions about the ability to shoot at night, no, about difficult weather conditions, which means that a thermal imager is not provided.
                    http://www.saabgroup.com/en/Land/Weapon-Systems/support-weapons/NLAW-Next-Genera

                    tion-Light-Antitank-Weapon / Features /

                    1. tlauicol
                      tlauicol 16 November 2013 10: 37
                      0
                      at least they write about the climate. In Indonesia, England there are fogs and rains too - they’ll probably come up with something
          2. poquello
            poquello 15 November 2013 22: 55
            +4
            , and from a slingshot?
            1. studentmati
              studentmati 15 November 2013 23: 15
              +2
              Quote: poquello
              and from a slingshot?


              The kid clearly turned off Batu with a short single blow! good
              1. poquello
                poquello 16 November 2013 01: 57
                +2
                Quote: studentmati
                Quote: poquello
                and from a slingshot?


                The kid clearly turned off Batu with a short single blow! good

                Checked. An unexpected, sharp blow to the lower leg of an unprepared person leads to pain shock. One siskin in his boyhood years, one to one, rolled on the ground like this dad.
                1. studentmati
                  studentmati 16 November 2013 02: 11
                  +1
                  Quote: poquello
                  Checked. An unexpected, sharp blow to the lower leg of an unprepared person leads to pain shock. One siskin in his boyhood years, one to one, rolled on the ground like this dad.


                  A shock providing a guaranteed pain shock!
  19. Yon_Silent
    Yon_Silent 15 November 2013 20: 32
    0
    The rocket aroused interest. A lot of unusual solutions.
    By itself, the aerodynamic scheme "on the plane" in missiles of this class is used quite rarely, more often "duck". All due to the fact that the rudders work in an indignant stream. And stability deteriorates as fuel burns out. The duck does not have these disadvantages. I wonder why this particular layout was chosen.
    Secondly, the disproportionately large control compartment located in front of the cumulative warhead draws attention. After all, this is a hindrance to the jet. And no devices or means for shooting the compartment with the seeker as described are provided.
    The third is, of course, a very unusual way of laying wing consoles. Judging by the picture, the developers put them directly into the warhead. Although ... since the rocket is stored in the TPK, it is very reasonable.
    The fourth is the availability of a VT control system. This is already an attribute for "big uncles", but you all go ... and shoved here. Apparently, the available overloads on the trajectory are not enough, since we took such a step.
    1. Professor
      Professor 15 November 2013 20: 57
      0
      Quote: Jon_ Quiet
      I wonder why this layout was chosen.

      Controlled flaps and a variable thrust vector cope with rocket control while occupying minimum space.

      Quote: Jon_ Quiet
      Secondly, the disproportionately large control compartment located in front of the cumulative warhead draws attention. After all, this is a hindrance to the jet. And no devices or means for shooting the compartment with the seeker as described are provided.

      There is no hindrance to the jet. The leading charge is slightly offset from the axis of the rocket and the axis of the main charge. On the axis of symmetry of the rocket between charges there are no obstacles. The charges are specially spaced at such distances to effectively overcome dynamic protection.

      Quote: Jon_ Quiet
      The third is, of course, a very unusual way of laying wing consoles. Judging by the picture, the developers put them directly into the warhead. Although ... since the rocket is stored in the TPK, it is very reasonable.

      The shape of the wings is such that they are as close as possible to the main charge without violating its integrity. By the way, they are carbon.

      Quote: Jon_ Quiet
      The fourth is the availability of a VT control system. This is already an attribute for "big uncles", but you all go ... and shoved here. Apparently, the available overloads on the trajectory are not enough, since we took such a step

      The flaps are so small that it would be difficult for them to cope with rocket control.
  20. The fat man
    The fat man 15 November 2013 21: 11
    +2
    such would be to our foot soldiers crying
    1. Eugeniy_369
      Eugeniy_369 15 November 2013 22: 32
      0
      Quote: Fat Man
      such would be to our foot soldiers

      Well ... there are good ideas, but .... better than mine !!!!
  21. K9_SWAT
    K9_SWAT 18 November 2013 19: 23
    0
    The article says that "An additional task of the system is to destroy bunkers and provide defense against attacking / hovering helicopters. In recent conflicts, the PBC has also been used as an autonomous device for monitoring the battlefield and selecting targets." And somewhere on this site I read that the IR seeker of the complex cannot identify a target of the Bunker type. And in this case, our "Cornet" is much better, although it has a semi-automatic guidance system.
  22. Sledgehammer
    Sledgehammer 4 February 2014 02: 06
    0
    You need one base (sight. Complex), and missiles can be different.
    Ptur on the wire. Ptur with a laser. guidance. Cheap and reliable.
    And this Javelin is a high-tech toy, a toilet for money,
    anyway now.
  23. Moldovanin
    Moldovanin 22 February 2015 18: 44
    0
    I think, since this missile system ATTACKS FROM THE TOP, it makes sense to take care of reducing the thermal visibility of the TOP of the tank. It is trite the design of the exhaust system can be changed (gas removal under the bottom), plus the use of the CURTAIN complex, which is already mentioned here in the comments. Javelinn’s danger is that the goal not illuminated by laser, i.e. a shot is hard to predict. But in this and her weak spot... If at the moment of launch the rocket “sees” the target, but in flight “loses” it, how will the rocket behave? After all, the missile gunner does not correct it after launch. I think that the developers of active methods of protecting tanks will not be interested in this proposal, but passive methods are not so expensive ... Plus, you need to protect the vehicles already in service.