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Will Egypt buy Russian weapons with Saudi money?

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The Israeli information portal DEBKAfile reports that at the end of October 2013 was in Cairo to hold secret talks with high-ranking Egyptian military visited by a Russian delegation led by the Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces and Lieutenant-General Vyacheslav Kondrashov. In particular, General Kondrashov met with the Egyptian military leadership, where they discussed the list of weapons that Egypt would like to buy in Russia.


The Israeli newspaper Yediot Ahronot, citing Egyptian military sources, writes that "this visit of the Russian military is not intended to demonstrate Egypt’s refusal from close ties with the West." Nevertheless, the Egyptians themselves comment in the press that they “want to cooperate more actively with other countries, for example, with Russia,” against the background of the official announcement of the American administration about partial reduction of military aid to Egypt.

For the first time since 1972, when Soviet military advisers at the request of President Anwar Sadat left Egypt, there are reports of Egypt’s possible acquisition of Russian weapons. According to DEBKAfile, the Egyptian side expressed the wish for Russia to prove its intention to restore close bilateral relations by supplying weapons that the United States refused to supply.

Earlier in October 2013, the Obama administration froze the supply of 4 Lockheed Martin F-16 fighters, 10 Boeing AH-64 Apache attack helicopters and 125 assembly kits tanks General Dynamics Land Systems M1A1, along with a tranche of $ 260 million from the annual $ 1,3 billion of military assistance (Egypt is the second largest recipient of US military assistance after Israel).

Does this mean a possible purchase in Russia of the MiG-35, T-90 and Mi-28Н?

According to DEBKAfile, Cairo is most of all allegedly interested in receiving intercontinental medium-range ballistic missiles that can hit targets in most countries of the Middle East and Iran. The Israeli site makes the assumption that the Egyptians most likely meant a mobile modification of the SS-25 (Topol-M) missile complex. P.2 believes that if we talk about missiles, then we could rather talk about Iskander-E OTRK, which has been actively promoted to the region in recent years.

According to DEBKAfile, the director of the Russian-Egyptian rapprochement is Saudi Arabia. According to DEBKAfile, the Saudi side intends to distance itself from Washington and carry along the Egyptian military, led by defense minister al-Sissi. The site claims that a big deal for the supply of Russian arms to Egypt was agreed upon during the July visit to Moscow of Saudi Prince Bandar and his meeting with President Putin - apparently with payment due to Saudi funds.

According to DEBKAfile, during the visit of the GRU Chief, the Egyptian side was sent a request for the deployment of a Russian naval base, since the MTO post in Syrian Tartus, firstly, is not suitable for this role, and secondly, Russia may be lost. DEBKAfile believes that since the 16 ships of the Russian Navy, including Peter the Great, Varyag and Moscow, are now in the Mediterranean, it would be much more convenient to have such forces in the presence of a base.

DEBKAfile names four possible points where such a base could be created: the port of Alexandria, the port of Dumyat on the eastern arm of the Nile, Port Said at the confluence of the Suez Canal into the sea and Rosetta (Rashid) on the western arm of the Nile, 65 km east of Alexandria .
According to the Israeli site, the appearance of a Russian naval base in any of these four points gives Russia control over the world's most important transport artery, i.e. Suez Canal. Which, moreover, is used by the United States, whose fleet is present both in the Mediterranean Sea and in the Persian Gulf.

At the same time, Moscow, according to DEBKAfile, is ready to offer Cairo long-term loans to finance the package. This would save Egypt from having to look for money to pay for supplies and not turn to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates for help.

Against the background of sharply increased Russian-Egyptian contacts, the unexpected recent visit by US Secretary of State John Kerry to Cairo to "strengthen ties with the main ally in the region, as well as to make sure that Egypt is moving towards the restoration of democracy" looks remarkable. During the visit, John Kerry held talks with interim President Adley Mansour, Foreign Minister Nabil Fahmy, as well as the country's defense minister Abdel Fattah Al-Sissi. At a press conference, Kerry said that the US authorities intend to continue cooperation with the Egyptian interim government.


Egyptian Minister of Defense


All this is happening against the background of the trial against the former president of Egypt, initiated as part of the investigation into the death of demonstrators outside the presidential palace at the end of 2012. stories Of Egypt. At the end of August, a state of emergency was introduced in the country, as a result of mass clashes between Mursi’s supporters and law enforcement agencies. Now Islamists are threatening to disrupt court sessions with desperate protests. Mursi and the Muslim Brotherhood are charged with a list of charges, if he and the other defendants in the case are found guilty, they face life imprisonment or even the death penalty. The authorities are intensively preparing for possible unrest, while supporters of the Islamists, stating that they do not recognize the jurisdiction of the court, are planning protest actions and even disrupting court hearings.

Washington’s relations with Cairo have also deteriorated noticeably lately. The Egyptians blamed the US administration for the overt support of the Muslim Brotherhood. Immediately after the overthrow of Mursi, in July of this year, the administration of Barack Obama announced the cancellation of joint annual exercises, the suspension of supplies to Egypt of military equipment and financial assistance. According to the press, during his visit, the US Secretary of State explained to the Egyptian partners that "a temporary reduction in US aid to Cairo is not a punishment of Egypt, but actions dictated by US law." It is also reported that he conveyed to the Egyptian President "a message from Barack Obama proposing to intensify the dialogue between the two countries."

Presumably, the recent visit to Cairo and Riyadh by the US Secretary of State was also connected with an attempt to prevent them from coming closer to Moscow in the context of the upcoming meeting in Cairo in mid-November in the format of two plus two foreign and defense ministers of Russia and Egypt.

According to DEBKAfile, the specifics of the visit of Secretary of State Kerry was his intention to meet with representatives of the entire political spectrum of Egypt, including, of course, the Muslim Brotherhood and other opposition groups. This probably weakens the position of the United States, since the delegation headed by the head of the GRU of the General Staff of the Russian Federation did not show plans to meet with someone outside the military, in the center of which is the Egyptian Minister of Defense.
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  1. Stiletto
    Stiletto 12 November 2013 15: 27 New
    -5
    He will buy something, but only who will sell him laughing
    1. Rustam
      Rustam 12 November 2013 15: 34 New
      +7
      I repeat my post 3 lines below, the truth is why it is unclear why to issue the same thing in the feed?

      Rustam егодняToday, 14:40

      Something familiar

      it already happened when the Saudis promised Rosoboron super contracts for their army - the result! mega contracts for the supply of weapons in the United States!

      I feel another divorce (on which ours again fell for) so that the Americans would resume military support for the Egyptians (to frighten with a possible large purchase of weapons in Russia)

      ps Then we separated our suckers, those durils screeched with joy over the super contracts with Saudi Arabia-even blocked the supply of s-300 to Iran

      these fools were promoted then, and then oh guys, sorry, original cheer
      and signed mega contracts with the USA

      But it didn’t teach our clever men, not of course that Egypt really wants to? But he suddenly wanted something when the states cut off oxygen for military cooperation and the supply of equipment, naturally the blackmailer went

      Elementary check and checkmate - and there is already a conversation from Washington about the resumption of cooperation on military issues
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 12 November 2013 17: 34 New
        +2
        Yes, we couldn’t change anything there, for the time being, it’s not enough, it’s like that, an attempt to influence others who ALREADY under the influence of others is a maza, or not?
        That is what it is most likely.
      2. Xroft
        Xroft 12 November 2013 18: 18 New
        +7
        No need to compare Egypt and Saudi Arabia, we have with Egypt much more commodity circulation and cooperation since the days of the USSR. This is more a restoration of the former markets than an attempt to get new ones, the Egyptian general is very offended by the USA for playing with * brothers * and may well refuse their * help *, everyone knows that they wanted to prepare Egypt looking at Libya and Syria.
        1. atalef
          atalef 12 November 2013 20: 20 New
          +3
          Quote: Xroft
          No need to compare Egypt and Saudi Arabia, we have with Egypt much more commodity circulation and cooperation since the days of the USSR.

          Collaboration per se, apart from tourism
          Quote: Xroft
          It is rather a restoration of former markets.

          If the new market looks like the former - a flag in hand, welcome another parasite.
          Egypt does not have money, there is a small chance that Saudi will throw (in revenge to the States), and you should not count on something long, or prepare 2 billion dollars of gifts, as the States did

          Quote: Xroft
          and may well refuse their * help *

          Just for the promise of the same help, understand Egypt as a falcon. There is no juwayok in the country, and rearmament to Russian standards --- this is many billions, who will pay?
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 12 November 2013 20: 46 New
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            or prepare 2 billion. bucks of gifts, as the States did.
            And not once, but annually.
            Quote: atalef
            Juayuok no country
            What's not there? However, in Egypt, apart from the tourism industry, there is nothing at all. And since it is restless, there are fewer and fewer people willing to go there, and the tourism industry is also dying. If Egyptians are beggars next to the "poor, oppressed, suffering from vicious Zionist aggression, occupation, and blockade" by Palestinians from Hamastan (also known as the Gaza Strip), what else can be said about their ability to pay?
            1. atalef
              atalef 12 November 2013 21: 07 New
              +2
              Quote: Nagan
              And not once, but annually.

              Of course, every year, don’t you know the famous Arabic proverb --- The service provided is no longer a service.

              Quote: Nagan
              What is missing?

              Tech tablet writes the word BUTTERFLY laughing
              Quote: Nagan
              However, in Egypt, in addition to the tourism industry, there is nothing at all

              Why, there is sand and a lot of hungry and uneducated people, confident in that. if their ancestors once made the pyramids, then the whole world must feed them for this

              Quote: Nagan
              If Egyptians are beggars next to the "poor, oppressed, suffering from vicious Zionist aggression, occupation, and blockade" by Palestinians from Hamastan (also known as the Gaza Strip), what else can be said about their ability to pay?

              Yes, the income of the palaces in Gaza suffering from the blockade, malnutrition and the horrors of aggression is 3 times higher laughing
              1. Revolver
                Revolver 12 November 2013 21: 25 New
                +2
                Quote: atalef
                if their ancestors once made pyramids, then the whole world must feed them for this
                If I’m not mistaken, then the pyramids were built either by Jews while they were in Egyptian slavery, or by those Egyptians whose descendants are now called Copts and are a discriminated minority in Egypt (this is the fate of Christians in all Muslim countries without exception). Arabs have nothing to do with the pyramids, sphinxes, and ancient Egypt in general. So why feed them?
              2. Xroft
                Xroft 12 November 2013 21: 27 New
                +1
                The Egyptians have a Sinai peninsula (along with the channel) from which they annually receive 8 billion (6 billion from tourism and 2 billion from the channel http://geographyofrussia.com/sueckij-kanal/) green (and this is in the condition of the actual revolution) so that money they are there and to pay for equipment (for example, the same missiles) is quite capable, no one will offer them armored troops to the Russian standard to rearm. But ships / aviation is quite real. Add to this the free base for the Russian fleet (that’s what the States will be happy about) a stone's throw from the channel (+ the likelihood that the Russian military will guard the channel, which will accordingly throw Israel out of there)
                Ps it is clear that the United States and Israel clearly do not need it .... why is there a strong Egypt and even with the Russian fleet at hand .... Iran can no longer be threatened ..... aircraft carriers can’t be led through the canal for nothing .....
              3. polly
                polly 13 November 2013 01: 52 New
                +1
                So the pyramids, they accidentally turned out ... laughing
    2. Airman
      Airman 12 November 2013 15: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: Stiletto
      He will buy something, but only who will sell him laughing


      The greed of defense service is known all over the world, so if you have money from Egypt they will sell it without hesitation, like Iraq.
      1. Rustam
        Rustam 12 November 2013 15: 53 New
        +6
        Airman
        The greed of defense


        Oboronservis? Yes, of course it is said, we could be mistaken in a hurry

        finally we have Rosoboronexport the one and only
        1. Airman
          Airman 12 November 2013 16: 06 New
          +1
          Quote: Rustam
          Airman
          The greed of defense


          Oboronservis? Yes, of course it is said, we could be mistaken in a hurry

          finally we have Rosoboronexport the one and only

          I agree, Rosoboronexport, before that I read about Vasiliev.
      2. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 12 November 2013 16: 45 New
        +3
        Quote: Povshnik
        The greed of defense service is known all over the world, so if Egypt has money

        So the United States then delivered free of charge as part of military assistance. And we are not so rich. Yes, and delivering missiles is not very buzz, as if later they would not have come to us, greetings from Ben Laden
    3. GSH-18
      GSH-18 12 November 2013 16: 57 New
      +2
      Quote from the article: "Will Egypt buy Russian weapons with Saudi money?"
      ====================================================================== =================
      This is not even a question.
      DO NOT BUY. Saudi money for the Amerian gunsmiths.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 12 November 2013 20: 21 New
        +5
        It's kind of ridiculous for me from America to advise Russia whether to sell weapons to Egypt. Nevertheless, I can give one piece of advice. Not about prices, nomenclature, conditions of use, or what else. And about the fitter Mechnikov © Ilf, Petrov "12 chairs".
        This fitter had a famous principle: "Money in the morning, evening chairs"And if you do not adhere to it, then the money was crying. Now try to get from the same Gaddafi or Saddam, and Assad wrote off billions, even to the dad. And it seems like Assad's son will not give it up either, he might want to, but there is nothing, and judging by the state of the Syrian economy, it won't be in the foreseeable future.
        And Egypt still has those shots. They threw the USSR, now it seems like they are going to throw the USA. Therefore, it is better for them not to deliver real goods under the assurances of friendship - just a moment will be presented, they will be thrown again.
        Quote: GSH-18
        Saudi money for the Amerian gunsmiths.
    4. Vadivak
      Vadivak 12 November 2013 17: 11 New
      +2
      Quote: ....
      Will Egypt buy Russian weapons with Saudi money?


      It all depends on the amount of rollback. Or gifts to management. How they handed over information to the Mossad about the upcoming flights of our pilots. The Israelis knew exactly who flew on which planes.

      The fact is that in the East, two occupations are considered the most worthy of men - war and trade; some Egyptian officers successfully combined them, and they did not sell postcards with views of the Giza pyramids at all. It is no accident that the protection of Cairo-West was carried out by Soviet special forces and anti-aircraft missile divisions of the S-75 and S-125 systems with Soviet calculations.
    5. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 12 November 2013 17: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: Stiletto
      He will buy something, but only who will sell him

      And why not sell it. Of course, no one will sell rockets, but planes and artillery systems please. This news is already more than 3 months old, so there’s no point in discussing something again. Let's wait and see.
    6. mirag2
      mirag2 12 November 2013 17: 32 New
      +1
      Yes, I read it and it was there.
      I think that this topic began as early as the time of unrest on Tahrir — when we provided humanitarian aid to them with grain — and they were surprised that they were given grain, no one says, never helped anyone ...
    7. Megatron
      Megatron 12 November 2013 19: 21 New
      +1
      Egypt, like a cheap Arab whore, twists backwards in front of everyone, first the USSR, then the USA, the Saudis, now again with Russia ....
    8. alone
      alone 12 November 2013 23: 07 New
      +1
      The Minister reminded me of Mr. Bean. The same abnormal look.

      but as for the sale, I don’t know what to say. although, wait and see.
    9. INVESTOR
      INVESTOR 13 November 2013 10: 07 New
      0
      What do they want again for free ??? free only ...
  2. Tersky
    Tersky 12 November 2013 15: 29 New
    +5
    Will buy. For freebies and vinegar is not acidic. Especially Egypt, just remember the amount of help poured into this country of the USSR. Quote from the news -"Nevertheless, the Egyptians themselves, in their comments to the press, declare that they" want to cooperate more actively with other countries, for example with Russia "against the backdrop of an official statement by the American administration about a partial reduction in military aid to Egypt." We have already passed this "cooperation", the result is known, and alas, it is far from optimistic. Here is the news from May 30 this year:"At present, Egypt has suspended the purchase of Russian weapons, Chemezov said. The country has no time for military purchases, although, as the official notes, the volumes of supplies from Russia to the Arab republic" were not bad. "
    We will remind, earlier, on May 20, it was reported that Cairo "rejected" the contract for the purchase of Russian high-precision 155 mm projectiles for M-109 artillery pieces. The cost of the contract was $ 20 million, however, as noted in the Russian press, the losses from the termination of the contract were much greater. Then the reason for the termination of the contract, according to some sources, was the postponement of execution, which occurred for the ninth time. "
    (read here)Cairo kooky have a place to be.
    I'm more interested in whether Saudi Arabia will buy nuclear weapons from Pakistan from its own nuclear weapons, and how Israel will react to this ...
  3. Migari
    Migari 12 November 2013 15: 35 New
    0

    Presumably, the recent visit to Cairo and Riyadh by the US Secretary of State was also connected with an attempt to prevent them from coming closer to Moscow in the context of the upcoming meeting in Cairo in mid-November in the format of two plus two foreign and defense ministers of Russia and Egypt.
    There is no monopoly on the sale of weapons from one country, they will not buy from one, they will buy from another, the only question is what kind of weapon, and the appetites of Egypt and Saudi Arabia are not bad, not everyone can sell such weapons.
  4. Kars
    Kars 12 November 2013 15: 36 New
    11
    medium-range intercontinental ballistic missiles,
    this passage just smiles.
  5. major071
    major071 12 November 2013 15: 38 New
    +6
    What are you going to do, no matter what news you open, everywhere the ears of the Saudis stick out. Apparently they really have a lot of money and they want world domination.
    1. atalef
      atalef 12 November 2013 20: 22 New
      +2
      Quote: major071
      What are you going to do, no matter what news you open, everywhere the ears of the Saudis stick out. Apparently they really have a lot of money and they want world domination.


      Yes, you can’t imagine how much, last year, the budget surplus was 600 billion bucks. yes
  6. WIN969
    WIN969 12 November 2013 15: 40 New
    0
    If they fight terrorism, then one could give a loan, but they are powerless in front of him.
  7. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 12 November 2013 15: 46 New
    +1
    If you look at the face of the Minister of Defense of Egypt (pictured), I would have thought well whether it’s worth selling serious weapons like that ... Oh, everything is not clean here. I agree with Rustam’s comment above ...
  8. Ihrek
    Ihrek 12 November 2013 15: 49 New
    +3
    It is necessary to sell, expanding sales markets is the task of any state. And here if the bird goes to her hands why not use it. After the sale, the business does not end. Service, spare parts, modernization, etc. And this is money for our budget.
  9. knn54
    knn54 12 November 2013 16: 00 New
    +3
    -According to DEBKAfile, the Saudi side intends to distance itself from Washington and to entice the Egyptian military, led by Minister of Defense al-Sissi.
    Isn't it a game of two allies, the SA and the USA, in the "good and bad" POLICE OFFICERS ...
  10. nikcris
    nikcris 12 November 2013 16: 15 New
    +3
    Need to sell, but for the money! And then from childhood, the vile taste of Nasserovsky dates was remembered. negative
    And the base may and will be needed - when the little brothers from Sevastopol are thrown out. For the same money and rent. So what? In the summer - in Novorossiysk, in the winter - in Alexandria. Lepota! fellow
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 12 November 2013 17: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: nikcris
      And the base may and will be needed - when the little brothers from Sevastopol are thrown out

      Kiev has fulfilled its promise to stop state purchases of Russian gas if Gazprom does not agree to restructure Ukraine's debt for August. Since Friday, NJSC "Naftogaz Ukrainy" has stopped taking gas from the monopoly.

      The smell of shale gas seems to be beckoning. Chevron for $ 450 million will develop shale gas reserves in Ukraine, they amount to about 4,5 trillion cubic meters - this country will last for 100-150 years.
      1. yur
        yur 12 November 2013 23: 43 New
        0
        A-a-apyat fairy tales from the Vienna Woods! This is probably the Polish "shale gas" quietly crept into the territory of the independent.
  11. nikcris
    nikcris 12 November 2013 16: 28 New
    +2
    Didn't the grin of this Minister of Defense remind anyone of the grin of one prime minister? repeat
    1. Sergey47
      Sergey47 12 November 2013 18: 53 New
      +2
      Indeed! Well, just one face. So this can be pulled wooden missiles.
  12. And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 12 November 2013 17: 29 New
    +3
    Quote: nikcris
    Didn't the grin of this Minister of Defense remind anyone of the grin of one prime minister? repeat


    BEAR? lol
  13. voliador
    voliador 12 November 2013 17: 54 New
    0
    "Poplar", of course, no one will sell them. And the rest must be sold for real money, or at the expense of paying for the lease of the base (if there is one). Stop lending!
  14. olviko
    olviko 12 November 2013 17: 57 New
    0
    Pilat2009
    "Yes, and the missiles are not very good to deliver, no matter how they come to us later, greetings from Ben Laden"

    That's right ! Egypt will buy "Poplar", the Saudis will put a Pakistani bomb on them. Damn, having such a business will not later have to dig a bomb shelter next to the hut in a fire brigade.
  15. 31231
    31231 12 November 2013 18: 20 New
    +1
    Our chief accountant from Sharma flew in. Rest only Russian. Europeans are nobody. Hotel occupancy 40%.
    And so, in difficult times, we help Egypt implicitly and indirectly.
  16. 10kAzAk01
    10kAzAk01 12 November 2013 19: 30 New
    +3
    But I’m alarmed .... now we are lending lards for 20, and they again have a revolution in the spring !!! and write off lard folk as always! (Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc., etc.)
    ......... looked at the picture !!! than theirs minister reminds us externally !!! (a joke of humor, but I find some similarities)
    1. atalef
      atalef 12 November 2013 20: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: 10kAzAk01
      But I’m alarmed .... now we are lending lards for 20, and they again have a revolution in the spring !!!

      yes

      Quote: 10kAzAk01
      ! and write off lard folk as always! (Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc., etc.

      yes yes

      Quote: 10kAzAk01
      than theirs minister reminds us externally !!!

      yes yes yes
      The first time I respond to comments is only emoticons, and the same. Neither add nor diminish. hi
  17. Andrey Peter
    Andrey Peter 12 November 2013 19: 31 New
    +1
    Buy not buy, fortune-telling on coffee grounds. Much depends on our leaders and their environment. And we have problems (and suddenly they will sell for a kickback and we won’t get any money) and we made up another option-contract, and they have problems ... and ... (options are possible) So, that money is ahead negative And of course, what do they want? It really bothers me that we are selling weapons that our army lacks.
  18. AnpeL
    AnpeL 12 November 2013 19: 35 New
    +3
    Israeli newspaper Yediot ahronot with reference to Egyptian military sources ...
    The best name for the newspaper, if you read through phonetics in Russian)
    1. atalef
      atalef 12 November 2013 20: 28 New
      +3
      Quote: AnpeL
      The best name for the newspaper, if you read through phonetics in Russian)

      Well, actually the word teeth (s) (Arab) - in Arabic means male genital laughing
      and ahuy (Arabic) --- my brother
      But in general, the name of the newspaper is translated as the latest news and reads as a single idiot. hi
  19. Stinger
    Stinger 12 November 2013 22: 06 New
    0
    They may not buy. Onishchenko is not. And who else can prohibit our tourists from going to their resorts in case they stubbornly?
  20. rarik63
    rarik63 12 November 2013 22: 17 New
    0
    Quote: Nagan
    It's kind of ridiculous for me from America to advise Russia whether to sell weapons to Egypt. Nevertheless, I can give one piece of advice. Not about prices, nomenclature, conditions of use, or what else. And about the fitter Mechnikov © Ilf, Petrov "12 chairs".
    This fitter had a famous principle: "Money in the morning, evening chairs"And if you do not adhere to it, then the money was crying. Now try to get from the same Gaddafi or Saddam, and Assad wrote off billions, even to the dad. And it seems like Assad's son will not give it up either, he might want to, but there is nothing, and judging by the state of the Syrian economy, it won't be in the foreseeable future.
    And Egypt still has those shots. They threw the USSR, now it seems like they are going to throw the USA. Therefore, it is better for them not to deliver real goods under the assurances of friendship - just a moment will be presented, they will be thrown again.
    Quote: GSH-18
    Saudi money for the Amerian gunsmiths.

    The fact of the matter is that you are from AMERICA, you should not give advice to Russia. How much do Americans spend on helping their various "brothers"? Billions! Do you think this money does not pay off? I think so with interest.
    The more countries and peoples in the Middle East will be our allies, even to the detriment of us in monetary terms, the calmer it will be, both at home and on the southern borders. How much does this calm cost? ...
  21. baku1999
    baku1999 12 November 2013 23: 33 New
    0
    Well, of course, the Saudis are special for Egypt to buy weapons in Russia, they allocate money to them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  22. komel
    komel 12 November 2013 23: 33 New
    +1
    Egypt has an interest in acquiring Russian weapons. But you need to sell it, understanding your interests in the future. Missiles should not be sold, but the deployment of the Russian naval base is very interesting for us. Egypt is in an unstable and explosive environment, both in the country and on its borders. Libya actually broke up into many parts controlled by armed groups in Iraq as a result of the American invasion and with the support of the United States moved from Sunnis to Shiites, representing the majority of the population. This, in turn, led to a significant strengthening of the position and influence of Shiite Iran - a historical and ideological competitor to Saudi Arabia in the Gulf. These advances have also led to some revitalization of Shiite communities in neighboring countries. Despite the fact that Russia and Saudi Arabia are competitors, it is beneficial for them to work out strategies together, both geopolitically and economically. Russian naval bases can ensure the security of the Suez Canal, and here (in Egypt) the interests of Saudi Arabia and Russia converge in many respects.
  23. komel
    komel 13 November 2013 00: 30 New
    0
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  24. And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 13 November 2013 03: 26 New
    0
    Quote: Xroft
    The Egyptians have a Sinai peninsula (along with the channel) from which they annually receive 8bn (6bn from tourism and 2bn from channel http://geographyofrussia.com/sueckij-kanal/) green (and this is in the condition of the actual revolution) so the money they are there and to pay for equipment (for example, the same missiles) is quite capable, no one will offer them armored troops to the Russian standard to rearm. But ships / aviation is quite real.


    Tourism in the Sinai is bent, by more than 95%, the last straw was the case when a couple of months ago, the Islamists fired on one of the hotels from an RPG.

    Quote: Xroft
    Add to this the free base for the Russian fleet (that’s what the States will be happy about) a stone's throw from the channel (+ the likelihood that the Russian military will guard the channel, which will accordingly throw Israel out of there)


    Israel has not been on the channel since 78 ', and he does not care who will guard the channel, as long as this guard professionally performs its work and complies with international agreements on free navigation. The last blocking of the channel in 56 'was Belli's incident and reared half of Europe with Britain and France at the head (and then they were not yet nuclear powers)

    Quote: Xroft
    s it is clear that the USA and Israel clearly do not need it .... why strong Egypt and even with the Russian fleet at hand .... Iran can no longer be threatened ..... aircraft carriers can’t be led through the canal for nothing .....


    Strong Egypt is right in the hands of Israel, which is why it disputes the decision of the Yusovites to freeze subsidies to Egypt, Israel does not want the Syrian scenario in Egypt. The Russian fleet in the region, especially in the current realities, does not do anything to Israel either (if even the fleet of the mighty USSR did not particularly strain it at the time, remember the incident with Liberty - Israel thought it was a Soviet ship). And finally, Israeli submarines do not go on patrols to the shores of Iran via Suez (just like the Yusovites, however)
  25. And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 13 November 2013 04: 29 New
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    Quote: WIN969
    If they fight terrorism, then one could give a loan, but they are powerless in front of him.


    I do not agree, they quite successfully clear the Sinai from the Wahhabis. Israel, with the tacit approval of the Egyptian army, patrols the Sinai with drones, and when it finds militants, it passes on to the Egyptians, which they enjoy using effectively. And in rare cases, it supports their ground operations with strikes from these drones, which allows the Egyptians to avoid unnecessary losses, and officially declare that the strikes were delivered by their air force. There were also cases when Israeli drones provided target designation to Egyptian attack helicopters. Of course, all this is unofficial, infa insider, you will not find this in the press.
  26. komel
    komel 15 November 2013 02: 16 New
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    Now, according to the Vedomosti interlocutor, negotiations are underway on the purchase of up to $ 2 billion of MiG-29M / M2 fighters, short-range air defense systems, Kornet anti-tank missiles, and Saudi Arabia, which has large supplies, can be paid for financial assistance to the new leadership of Egypt.

    MiG-29M / M2
  27. komel
    komel 15 November 2013 18: 37 New
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    Egypt is going to buy Russian weapons, and Saudi Arabia to give money. The United States has invested billions of dollars in the Middle East, and they who are not grateful do not value them. The United States does not recognize such a government, the Obama administration from the very beginning refused to call a coup the removal of former Egyptian President Mohammed Mursi from power. All Egypt will be left without the most expensive American weapons and spare parts for them.
  28. komel
    komel 15 November 2013 19: 04 New
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    14.11.2013/21/11 10:XNUMX p.m. US President Barack Obama is confident that he is close to resolving the Iranian nuclear issue, and is ready to offer Iran $ XNUMX billion in economic concessions. Israel and congressmen believe that the sum of concessions is much larger than the above. Saudi Arabia will be ready to spend more on Egypt !!!
  29. komel
    komel 17 November 2013 00: 32 New
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    Moscow understands that China has a positive attitude towards lifting sanctions and lowering energy prices from Iran. China does not aim to strengthen the yuan, but is ready to receive dividends. The United States, on the contrary, is afraid of candy wrappers for its greens, so they are trying to lift the sanctions imposed against Iran. Iranians are now trading on barter, for Yuan and Rubles, etc. what sets a precedent for new trade relations. But defending its interests in Iran, the United States directly worsens the interests of Saudi Arabia, which benefits from the high oil price. By sponsoring Egypt, the Saudis are strengthening their position, at the same time making it clear that the United States will suffer losses in addition to benefits. Russia says bluntly that a holy place does not exist and are ready to sell their weapons to Egypt. The interests of Saudi Arabia and Russia in Egypt converge. After the lifting of sanctions, Russia will expect new contracts that are beneficial for itself. Saudi Arabia can afford to spend indecently big money !!!
  30. komel
    komel 17 November 2013 11: 09 New
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    At first glance, Saudi Arabia is not profitable to transfer and change dollars, but it is dangerous to keep them in the USA. When transferring money to European and Asian banks, Saudis can insure their money. Exchanging dollars for foreign currency such as the Euro will make them the largest holders of this currency, which will rise in price with each purchase. Thus, it will be possible to have pressure on the EU, and with each purchase, to have advantages and independence from US decisions.
  31. kelevra
    kelevra 16 December 2013 01: 37 New
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    Already buying! The Saudis were very disappointed in the USA, their main western ally, so that they will continue to send money not to sponsor the opposition in Syria, but to sponsor Egypt.