Military Review

State defense order - under control

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A word to heads of defense enterprises


Konstantin BUSYGIN, General Director of Concern Kalashnikov, Izhevsk:

- Speaking about the level of our cooperation with the military, I should note that today, with the support of Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, who heads the Military Industrial Commission under the Government of Russia, we have established an effective dialogue between enterprises - manufacturers and developers within the framework of the Interdepartmental Working Group weapons and the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. Thanks to the established dialogue with the direct consumer of our products, we finally began to receive feedback from the Ministry of Defense, to see the needs of the department in the form of tactical and technical tasks for developing weapons.

At the moment, we do not have large orders from the military department for the production of weapons, but we are developing modern designs for the Ministry of Defense. In particular, the development work "Warrior". The Kalashnikov Concern is looking forward to developing cooperation with the Russian Ministry of Defense.

For the near future, the military department has planned the Day of the shooter, for which we provide the Ministry of Defense with all existing and prospective weapons. The military will shoot from all the samples, evaluate their tactical and technical characteristics, convenience, and will be able to make informed purchasing decisions. Among other products, we will present the Ministry of Defense pistol Yarygin production Izhevsk Mechanical Plant. All other power departments have already re-armed and replaced in their arsenals the Makarov pistol with the Yarygin pistol.

The requirements of the Ministry of Defense have always been tough. All our enterprises have military acceptance, which strictly controls the quality and deadlines for the delivery of all military orders. Execution of defense orders for us is always a priority among other production tasks, so we plan all the work in advance in order to ensure timely and high-quality execution of contracts for the military department. We hope that there will be more of them in 2014.

True, this year the state defense order has finally appeared, and a very large one. We won the tender for the production and supply of the Defense Ministry guided missiles "Whirlwind-1" in 2013 – 2015 for the sum of about 13 billion rubles and have already begun production of the first experimental batch.

In the Kalashnikov Concern, we are combining the potential of Izhmash and the Izhevsk Mechanical Plant in the field of high-precision weapons production, in order to ensure for the Russian Defense Ministry the production of a wide range of weapons at one site. We hope that our interaction will become even more convenient and transparent from this.

In matters of cooperation with the military department, weapons modernization issues require a deeper study. Much has been said about the stockpiles of small arms in stock. But there is still no solution as to how best to deal with it, so as not to destroy what so much labor has been invested in. For example, we offered the Ministry of Defense several options for upgrading the AK-74, but no major decisions were made. In addition to modernization, we are ready to support the proposal of the general director of Rostec State Corporation, Sergey Chemezov, to replace three old machines with one new one, in order to transform already irrelevant models into civilian weapons or sell them to foreign countries.

Mikhail LOBIN, General Director of Zvezda OJSC, St. Petersburg:

- We have with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, first of all with the Main Committee of the Navy, a well-established mechanism of interaction. OJSC Zvezda is the only Russian producer of light powerful marine engines, gearboxes and reverse gearboxes (RRP). Recently, it has also become a developer and manufacturer of heavy DRDs for diesel, gas turbine and diesel-gas turbine main ship power plants of ships, boats and ships of the Navy and marine units of other Russian law enforcement agencies.

Until recently, the state support of the diesel industry, unlike in Western countries, where it exists in the form of state and intergovernmental programs with shared funding for promising projects, was absent. But since 2012, the Ministry of Defense has taken serious steps towards the formation of a single algorithm for working together to increase the volume of state defense orders.

For the first time, a contract was signed with OAO Zvezda for the production of a new line of diesel engines and an auction was held to repair diesel engines for the Navy for the next three-year period. It should be noted that on such a scale and with such a level of detail many practical issues regarding the repair and procurement of diesel engines were solved for the first time.

If we talk about changing the requirements for the timing and quality of the implementation of the state defense order, the system of military missions created as a quality control tool cannot replace the quality control system of enterprises, which is usually determined by the level of production organization and technologies used. Therefore, at the stage of forming the state defense order, the necessary budgetary and own investments are planned for the re-equipment of primarily measuring, laboratory and metrological equipment.

What issues need further work in the future? Currently, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is working on the issue of concluding end-to-end contracts with defense industry enterprises to ensure the full life cycle of weapons and military equipment: from design, manufacture to their disposal. The contracts will ensure long-term planning of capacity utilization, reduce costs at the post-production stages, as well as allow long-term contracts with cooperation enterprises to be concluded. True, the current legal provision for the state defense order, adopted in 1990, requires improvement and refinement in accordance with the changed economic conditions.

Another important point. Now in the Russian market in almost all sectors of the defense industry there is no maintenance of the product life cycle at all stages. As a result, very good products are produced, but proper service is not provided. Therefore, it is necessary to find the optimal schemes of interaction between the Ministry of Defense and industry regarding the maintenance of equipment.

Timur KILMATOV, Deputy Head of the Department for Technical Supervision and Service Services of Zvezdochka Ship Repair Center OJSC:

“If we compare the level of interaction between industry and the Ministry of Defense in 2013 and in the previous two years, there are significant changes for the better. For example, the level of study of application repair sheets of ships and vessels has become much higher. Coordination of the scope of work and bringing to the allocated limits occurs in close cooperation of industry and the Navy.

As for direct interaction on the ground, during 2013, at the initiative of TsS Zvyozdochka OJSC and the Northern Technical Department fleet weekly production meetings were organized with the participation of industry representatives, the Northern Fleet's military command and control agencies, and operating fleet organizations.

The specifics of our work is due to a very short period of work due to the combat service of ships. We consider the fact that, despite all the difficulties, industrial enterprises, with the direct participation of the Navy, prepared and provided the NF ships for participation in large-scale 2013 exercises of the year, we consider it a positive result.

The annual scope of work ordered by the Ministry of Defense to enterprises of the ship repair industry is in line with the State Armaments Program and is increasing.

In my opinion, in the near future, it is required to simplify the procedure for interaction between the Ministry of Defense and industrial enterprises, as well as to reduce the level of coordination of documentation on the scope and timing of work. The level of responsibility for making decisions on these issues by the Ministry of Defense for the Navy should be consolidated. There are plans to transfer individual fleet functions to industrial enterprises - this is primarily the formation of application volumes of work. At present, we face the task of finalizing the current regulatory documentation, bringing it to modern requirements, clarifying the order of interaction between all the participants in the work.

Vasily MANDROVITSKY, Head of the 144 Armored Repair Plant (144 BTRZ):

- Over the past year, the Minister of Defense has paid particular attention to the defense enterprises of the Urals, as evidenced by a number of his working trips to domestic enterprises. Thus, in August, Army General Sergei Shoigu, First Deputy Defense Minister, Army General Arkady Bakhin, Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov, Commander-in-Chief of the Land Forces Colonel-General Vladimir Chirkin, Head of the Main Operations Department - Deputy Head, accompanied the General Staff of the Army Arzamas Machine Building Plant in August; Colonel-General Vladimir Zarudnitsky, Commander-in-Chief of the Western Military District, Colonel-General Anatoly Sidorov. The generals personally got acquainted with the products of AMZ, the GAZ Group, the Zavolzhsky caterpillar tractor plant, the Ural automobile plant, and checked the equipment in action.

The 9th International Exhibition of Arms, Military Equipment and Ammunition of the Russian Arms Expo - 2013, held in September at the Prospector training ground near Nizhny Tagil, became a peculiar reflection of the situation that has changed for the better in the domestic defense industry complex. This year the exhibition, which has already become familiar, has changed qualitatively. It looks new and in appearance, and the range of exhibits, and to show the capabilities of military equipment.

At the plenary sessions and round tables at RAE-2013, topical issues of the Russian defense industry were discussed, and Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin outlined the main points of the State Armaments Program before 2020 and outlined the role of holdings in the defense industry.

If we talk about our company, we have joined the Federal Target Program for the further development of the company. Almost 900 mln. Rubles were allocated for equipment and re-equipment of the enterprise's workshop. Recently, a new commissioning shop was introduced. The construction of the machine shop is underway, where modern repair equipment will be installed.

We managed to reanimate work on contracts. In the recovery flow, there are 64 fighting vehicles of the assault landing nomenclature, about forty BMP-2 for the Central Military District, almost two dozen BTR-80 for the internal troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation. We continue to repair engines under the program of service maintenance for the Ministry of Defense.

Petr VASILYEV, Chief Designer, OJSC Northern PCB, Kaliningrad:

- Over the past year, the interaction of industry and representatives of the Ministry of Defense has noticeably intensified. It is impossible to say that the requirements for the state defense order have changed, but it pleases that there is no shyness - we are working according to plan, without any fuss, we are building new ships.

What would you like for the future? More funds for research and development work. What we are building today is the groundwork for the 1980's and 1990's. But much of what has been created has already reached its perfection. It is time to look for new solutions, for example, to use metal-plastic pipes, panels for electrical wiring, etc. In the design work to use three-dimensional design, to increase the number of machines with numerical control in production. Today, in my opinion, they are not enough.

Viktor SHURYGIN, General Director and General Designer of the Federal Research and Production Center OAO TsKB Titan, Volgograd:

- With the appointment of Sergei Shoigu to the post of Minister of Defense of Russia, personnel changes took place in the military department. As a result, professionals came to the military department. Including Deputy Minister of Armaments Yury Ivanovich Borisov. And professionalism, as you know, is the basis of any business. Relations between the Ministry of Defense and the defense industry have become clearer and more understandable, financing has become more regular.

TsKB "Titan" is a leading enterprise for the development and production of weapons for the Ground Forces, Navy, Air Defense Forces. Today, we fully feel their relevance. So, this year the volume of our products manufactured for the Armed Forces of Russia in the framework of the state defense order has increased significantly. Good prospects are outlined for the future, as the intensive re-equipment of the army and navy with new models of weapons and military equipment continues. The decision on military acceptance is very important. We, the leaders of defense companies, are counting on its early implementation.

At the same time, there are issues to be addressed. For example, the pricing procedure “20 + 1”, which does not suit the enterprises of the military-industrial complex and makes their products low-profit, is still maintained. So far, it has also not been possible to fully debug the scheme of service provided by the industry to the guarantee equipment supplied to the troops. Obviously, it is necessary to return the previous status to test sites and spaceports. These sore questions for us are waiting for a crucial decision. I am convinced that such an energetic and authoritative leader, as General of the Army Shoigu, members of his team of like-minded people will eventually be able to remove them from the agenda. And in this, as in all other matters important for strengthening the defense capacity of our country, I and all my colleagues wish the present leadership of the military department success.

Igor EVDOKIMOV, Executive Director of the Dalzavod shipbuilding center:

- Preserving ship repair as the main activity of the plant increases production volumes. This has especially become noticeable over the past year. We have reached the maximum mutual understanding with the Ministry of Defense. The portfolio of orders for military ship repair is filled with 100 percent, putting ships for scheduled repairs is scheduled for many months in advance.

The company performs a comprehensive repair of any complexity during the docking of vessels of all types. The non-freezing water area and the dock with the length of 246 meters allow for year-round docking of vessels with a displacement of up to 36.000 tons with the performance of all types of work.

The workshops of Dalzavod carried out scheduled repairs to the Varyag Guards missile cruiser, Marshal Shaposhnikov, Admiral Vinogradov, the Marshal Krylov measuring complex and a number of other ships. In total, last year, maintenance and dock repairs underwent 150 ships and vessels of the Pacific Fleet. After that, the ships successfully solved combat missions, made several long voyages, including to the Gulf of Aden.

Already this year after the repair work carried out, the ships of the Pacific Fleet coped brilliantly with the tasks set during large-scale exercises.

In general, this year, maintenance and dock repairs will be held on the 173 ship and the ship of the Pacific Fleet. Four 1-2 rank ships will be repaired with upgrades. At the same time, the requirements for terms and quality of fulfillment of the state defense order increase. Given these circumstances, we strive to be more demanding in the fulfillment of obligations by our suppliers.

Today the volume of production has doubled. Now we are confident that next year will bring a double increase and amount to 11 billion rubles. Therefore, we are actively working on the training of specialists, the development of the team.

We are actively engaged in the repair of industrial premises. In parallel, the modernization of the plant. New buildings will be erected, many productions will be reconstructed, new equipment will be installed. In the future, the reconstruction of the dry dock, the creation of a center for the repair of submarines of the Varshavyanka type, a repair quay for universal landing ships of the Mistral type.

Today the ship repair base of the Pacific Fleet is gaining momentum. I think, with government support and cooperation with the Ministry of Defense, we will be able to turn the center of the ship repair Dalzavod into a powerful modern high-tech enterprise.
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  1. Stiletto
    Stiletto 12 November 2013 15: 26 New
    +9
    It is nice that enterprises performing state defense orders finally have full understanding with the Moscow Region.
    It is also nice that in parallel with the emergence of new final products, which we are extremely happy about, the process of modernization of the enterprises themselves is taking place:
    "At the same time, the plant is being modernized. New buildings will be erected, many production facilities will be reconstructed, new equipment will be installed."
    All this is the key to future success.
    Good luck to those who forge weapons of Russia !!!
    1. Army1
      Army1 12 November 2013 21: 00 New
      +2
      Well, at least under control, and not under threat.
    2. Nick
      Nick 12 November 2013 21: 28 New
      +3
      Quote: Stiletto
      It is nice that enterprises performing state defense orders finally have full understanding with the Moscow Region.

      Cadres decide everything! If a person is in his place, then it’s done. Thanks to Shoigu and Rogozin ...
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 13 November 2013 03: 59 New
        +1
        Quote: Nick
        Cadres decide everything! If a person is in his place, then it’s done. Thanks to Shoigu and Rogozin ...
        The "top" - they want, now it is important that the "bottom" (producers) could ...
        The shortage of qualified personnel in the defense industry after the collapse of 90x still makes itself felt ...

        We need young people at enterprises, a lot of initiative youth !!!
  2. nemec55
    nemec55 12 November 2013 15: 32 New
    +2
    The most important discipline is to establish and implant it so that the development mechanism of testing and acceptance manufacturing works like my father’s Sovdepov’s pocket watch.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 12 November 2013 19: 07 New
      +1
      Quote: nemec55
      so that the testing and acceptance manufacturing development mechanism works like my father’s Sovdepov pocket watch.

      It seems to be sincerely and correctly, but where and how to grow not only military envoys enriched with Makarov and Serdyukov, but also hard workers who deliver high-quality products to customers? In Soviet times, to qualify for military personnel, an educational qualification was required, in addition to military experience in operating B and VT, and even two or three years of service in the rank of junior military representative. Hence there was an attentive attitude to the quality of the products received.
      Serdyukov-Makarov events caused the forced rotation of the leadership of the military missions. Try to manage the military acceptance in a quality manner, possessing only ambitions, but not knowledge of the specific production process of the corresponding model of B and W, the nuances of structural, financial, personal?
      How can the company's management stimulate the professional growth of production personnel at a wage level "comparable to the average salary level"? What about the quantitative and qualitative composition of the "enterprise quality service"? Is everything good in the Kingdom of Denmark? No dear
      Quote: Stiletto
      In parallel, the plant is being modernized. New buildings will be erected, many production facilities will be reconstructed, new equipment will be installed. "

      all this will be included in the price of the product, in relation to the size of the "batch" of a specific sample being produced!
  3. Stiletto
    Stiletto 12 November 2013 15: 35 New
    +2
    Quote: nemec55
    The most important discipline is to establish and implant it so that the development mechanism of testing and acceptance manufacturing works like my father’s Sovdepov’s pocket watch.


    ... and frames. Cadres decide everything. As many talented youth as possible should work in the defense industry.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 12 November 2013 19: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: Stiletto
      Cadres decide everything

      Yes, you are a Stalinist, dear! Just kidding, of course, but the key link is highlighted correctly. Personnel ... Read the comment above ... The experience of 1991-2013 is summarized there. relationship between supplier and customer. Only service, nothing personal!
      Quote: Stiletto
      As many talented youth as possible should work in the defense industry.

      Your words, yes to the leadership of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation!
  4. Migari
    Migari 12 November 2013 15: 52 New
    +2
    It is good that the military-industrial complex has ended in a mess, trading on the prices of products for the Ministry of Defense. The manufacturers contacted the customer, the modernization of enterprises began, so everything will be delivered on time and with good quality.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 12 November 2013 19: 23 New
      0
      Quote: Migari
      then everything will be delivered on time and with good quality.

      The opinion you expressed (wish?) Depends on the quality of: the personnel of the enterprise; material and technical support for the execution of the order; production capacities of the enterprise; the professional training of military receivers (military representatives) is VERY briefly.
  5. Ihrek
    Ihrek 12 November 2013 15: 53 New
    +4
    Shoigu and Rogozin inspire confidence. good
    1. nazgul-ishe
      nazgul-ishe 12 November 2013 16: 42 New
      +4
      Confidence is an indicator of the work performed and not the sweet chatter of anyone.
    2. alone
      alone 12 November 2013 23: 05 New
      +1
      Quote: Jamal
      Shoigu and Rogozin inspire confidence.


      when I was little (I was 3-4 years old), I always watched "good nights, kids!"

      Stepashka and Filia always inspire confidence. But Karkush is not laughing

      P.S. is just about trust. And no insults to individuals. hi
  6. atos_kin
    atos_kin 12 November 2013 16: 00 New
    +1
    I am glad that the mood of all directors and designers is positive.
  7. Russ69
    Russ69 12 November 2013 16: 04 New
    +1
    Reported off, offset ... But there are still a lot of problems. The same Shougu, the other day, said that it would take more than one year to establish the military-industrial complex ...
    The main thing is that it works ...
  8. kaktus
    kaktus 12 November 2013 16: 27 New
    0
    That's right, it's time good
  9. ZU-23
    ZU-23 12 November 2013 16: 32 New
    0
    Positive of course, God forbid not jinx everyone)))
  10. nazgul-ishe
    nazgul-ishe 12 November 2013 16: 45 New
    0
    You would not have a flag but a whole banner in your hands, at least for such thoughts !!!!
  11. bolonenkov
    bolonenkov 12 November 2013 17: 18 New
    +3
    Life is getting better, everything is quietly getting on its own rails and a huge train called RUSSIA begins its long and difficult journey!
    Success, patience and innovative solutions to our gunsmiths! Hooray! drinks
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 12 November 2013 19: 58 New
      -2
      Quote: bolonenkov
      everything is getting quiet

      Spelling of the word "on the sly":
      Adverbs that are formed by combining prepositions with short adjectives (left, dry, dead, from afar, in the heat of the moment, etc.) must be written together. So "on the sly".
      Nothing personal, just spelling.
      Quote: bolonenkov
      a huge train called RUSSIA begins its long and difficult journey!

      Well, it’s nice, but twenty years, judging by your quote, they were lying downhill, in a dead end, where foreign curators Gorby @ Elson sent us.
      Quote: bolonenkov
      Success, patience and innovative solutions to our gunsmiths

      I reread recently N.S. Leskov. There he also had a Lefty gunsmith ...
      1. bolonenkov
        bolonenkov 12 November 2013 21: 15 New
        +3
        Quote: 11111mail.ru
        Well, it’s nice, but twenty years, judging by your quote, they were lying downhill, in a dead end, where foreign curators Gorby @ Elson sent us.

        Sadly, we showed our ears out of the hole quite recently, but the fact that we are already pretty tolerably standing on our feet cannot but rejoice and inspires cautious optimism!

        For the correction - thanks)))
        1. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 13 November 2013 21: 10 New
          -2
          Quote: bolonenkov
          For the correction - thanks)))

          Yak panov say: dumb right! Only now they drive your branded triple closing brackets into a stupor! How many clever thoughts are closed behind each bracket? Nothing personal: formal logic!
          Quote: bolonenkov
          we showed our ears from the pit recently

          To show the ears of the enemy is simply to indicate the presence, but if the adversary sees an aggressive physiognomy or at least a clenched fist - then no question!
          Quote: bolonenkov
          we are already pretty tolerant on our feet

          You may be, but the Russian defense industry, which has been heavily compressed and reformed since 1998, is just getting up from its shoulder blades to all fours and it is not a fact that it will get on its feet ...
          Quote: bolonenkov
          cautious optimism

          It’s a completely politically correct quote: for us, even optimism should be CAREFUL, but how ... if ..., God forbid ... ets
          Quote: bolonenkov
          Sadly,

          Is there any reason to be sad? Did they show their "ears"?
  12. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 12 November 2013 17: 21 New
    0
    Under whose control?
  13. Onyx
    Onyx 12 November 2013 17: 54 New
    +4
    Now the main problems in the military-industrial complex are the strong overpricing of components for many subcontractors, who are often monopolists, as well as problems with overpricing for the enterprises of the military-industrial complex with electricity suppliers.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 12 November 2013 19: 59 New
      0
      And not only this.
  14. voliador
    voliador 12 November 2013 18: 08 New
    0
    It was smooth on paper, but forgot about the ravines. Just the whole elite spoke about the failure of the GOZ, about constant delays in the delivery of finished products, but here it’s just quiet, smooth, and God's grace. All is well. The question arises: which of them is lying?
    1. Xroft
      Xroft 12 November 2013 18: 23 New
      +2
      what failures are we talking about? link to the studio (s). So far, I see the implementation and delivery of new equipment to the troops (even BB * tafuns * have fallen). Let it not be so fast, but everything will take its course, they will now upgrade production and begin to stamp faster, until there are NO prerequisites that the order will not be completed.
  15. Maximars
    Maximars 12 November 2013 21: 28 New
    +3
    I can only confirm the mood prevailing in the defense industry. On our electro-mechanical everything is going for the better. 20 sets of RLB machines for the end of 2012-2013. We launched an order of 2014 for another 18. Everything is on time. Feel free to count on a 5 year old. In all, there is a repair of old orders. Salaries of designers 15-40, technologists 15-30, fitters 15-60. Military representatives are very intelligent young officers (they cling to every little thing). I think for a good start good
    1. Onyx
      Onyx 12 November 2013 22: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: Maximars
      I can only confirm the mood prevailing in the defense industry. On our electro-mechanical everything is going for the better. 20 sets of RLB machines for the end of 2012-2013. We launched an order of 2014 for another 18. Everything is on time. Feel free to count on a 5 year old. In all, there is a repair of old orders. Salaries of designers 15-40, technologists 15-30, fitters 15-60. Military representatives are very intelligent young officers (they cling to every little thing). I think for a good start good

      Yes, with such a distribution of salaries, there is no incentive to study. Engineering personnel should receive more than specialists with secondary specialized education. This was the case in Stalin's time, by the way. But after his death, the system was changed, since the Union was a "country of workers and peasants", and accordingly they began to receive more.
  16. Andrey Peter
    Andrey Peter 12 November 2013 21: 35 New
    0
    Quote: Stiletto
    It is nice that enterprises performing state defense orders finally have full understanding with the Moscow Region.

    Regrettably, I must upset. Not so simple. In order to fully fulfill the requirements of the defense industry, you need to use your own components, and many industries (previously working for the union) have collapsed. Instead of developing, many were destroyed during the "perestroika". The potential is there and there was no need for any Skolkoy. Only wasted money and a way to launder it. This money would be used for projects that are already being developed and production support would be the envy of us all over the world.
    I also wanted to add that the price increase was often due to the fact that production is still working, and purchases are already going through intermediaries. That only contributed to the collapse of production and the profit of those persons who then finished it off.
  17. Alex Nick
    Alex Nick 12 November 2013 22: 14 New
    +2
    well, at least get enough sleep at last. And then all night long I thought, where is the control? Now I know where someone controls something. Good night guys.
    1. Onyx
      Onyx 12 November 2013 22: 22 New
      +1
      Good night.
  18. Stinger
    Stinger 12 November 2013 22: 34 New
    +2
    As soon as an adequate person appeared to be responsible for the defense industry and remove the stool, how it went.
    The situation of Izhmash is disturbing. Serial orders of small arms can not be expected. All warehouses are littered. But R&D must not be abandoned.
  19. baku1999
    baku1999 12 November 2013 23: 48 New
    -3
    UNDER THE CONTROL OF WHO, THE PENTAGON AND NATO ?????????????
  20. White Guard
    White Guard 13 November 2013 06: 43 New
    0
    Zadolbali already with this gun Yarygin. Why are they not bringing the Serdyukov and GSh-18 pistol to mass production?
  21. kelevra
    kelevra 16 December 2013 01: 34 New
    0
    Obvious changes in terms of defense of orders are visible and control too! One must not be smart to say that the army is tal worse and continues to degrade. One thing to understand, one cannot just put everything on the military track in the USSR, compared to what It was 10 years ago, the re-equipment of Russia is proceeding at a very intensive pace and is growing, but the program is until 2020. Only 2014 is on the verge. So, the growth potential is huge!