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Ukraine has created the Belarusian grenade launcher

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At the end of the twentieth century, an interesting trend emerged - many states, even very small ones, are trying to organize the production of their own military products, at least ammunition and small arms. weapons. At the same time, they begin to move from licensed and screwdriver production to their own and joint development, self-modernization of foreign technology. And even offer their products for export.


In this regard, the experience of creating a multi-caliber RPG-32 “Nashshab” (“Hashim”) grenade launcher is interesting. Developed in Russia by order of the King of Jordan, it is assembled at a joint venture in Jordan mainly from Russian components. And will be sold throughout the Middle East.

In the post-Soviet space, Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Belarus and Kazakhstan are actively developing the design and production of weapons. One of the latest developments presented by Ukraine is the UAG-40 universal automatic grenade launcher for NATO’s standard grenade 40х53 mm in metal М16 (USA).

Last September, the final version of the UAG-2013 universal automatic grenade launcher was shown at the exhibition “Arms and Security - 40” in Kiev. This machine-mounted grenade launcher was developed at the KB "Precise Mechanisms", as the management of the company modestly notes, with the participation of specialists with foreign experience in weapons development. However, it is no secret that the UAG-40 was created in Belarus. And in its promotion on the world market, the foreign trade organization “Belspetsvoentekhnika” participates.

Ukraine has created the Belarusian grenade launcher

In open sources are tactical and technical characteristics of the UAG-40. Maximum length - 960 mm. Weight without grenades and machine - 17 kg. Weight with the machine - 31 kg. Grenade caliber - 40x53 mm. Barrel length - 400 mm. Barrel cutting: pitch - 1220 mm; the number of rifling variables is 8 in the initial part, 16 in the middle, and 24 in the end part of the trunk. The initial speed of the grenade 240 m / s. The maximum firing range is 2200 m, and the target range is 1500 m. Firing modes are single and bursted. The rate of fire bursts - 400 shots per minute.

A three-stage cutting of the barrel, a friction shutter damper consisting of cantilever springs located on the inner surface of the body, and a muzzle brake reduce recoil. The design of the muzzle brake is such that the powder gases flowing out during a shot not only reduce the recoil momentum by half, but also reduce the toss of the barrel. Since the gases are almost not beating down, there is no cloud of dust unmasking raised from the ground.

To control the fire on the back of the case there are two handles with a variable position - vertically or horizontally, adjustable by a grenade thrower. Or one handle and shoulder rest. On the right-hand grip there is a release button, switched to a single fire or firing bursts. Special fuses-latches on the shutter and the release key exclude a random shot. Both latches are connected to a common lever, therefore, they are locked and, conversely, opened in one motion.


The mechanism of UAG-40 is based on automation with a free gate. Nakol cap and shot are made in the reel of the shutter. The mechanical sight is mounted in a handle for carrying a grenade launcher on top of the body. In preparation for the shooting two aiming strips rise to the top.

Director of KB "Exact mechanisms" Oleg Slynko said that the original design solutions have allowed to achieve major advantages over competitors: high accuracy when firing bursts, low recoil momentum, high reliability, ease of production and operation.

Pilot production began at the shipbuilding enterprise of Leninskaya Kuznya OJSC in 2010. Enterprises in Kiev (“Satmash”), Kharkov, Chernigov and Sumy are involved in industrial cooperation. This year, shipbuilders manufactured a pre-production batch of 12 grenade launchers. By the end of the year, mass production of 500 units per year can be launched.

Since the UAG-40 for TTX is an analogue of the American grenade launcher Mk.19 mod.3 and HK GMG of the German company Heckler-Koch, he has nothing to do on the European armament market. It is assumed that the Ukrainian "stanker" may be of interest to the army of some countries in Asia, Africa and Latin America. It is positioned primarily as a weapon for highly rugged terrain or for installation on armored personnel carriers, jeeps and other wheeled and tracked vehicles. It is believed that it does not require prepared positions.

But there is one problem - the UAG-40 machine is so high that the operator is in a sitting position. Lying can not shoot. And the design of the machine does not allow, for example, to put it on the window sill. Therefore, the creators of the grenade launcher do not say anything about its use in urban or industrial buildings. And now it is one of the main trends in the use of such weapons.

Another important issue is the competitive price. The long-established US Mk.19 mod.3 costs 14 thousand dollars, Heckler-Koch is not cheaper. Produced in small batches of UAG-40, according to experts of the Russian OJSC “Plant named after V.A. Degtyarev ”will cost about 20 thousand dollars. Although the leaders of the“ Precise Mechanisms ”and“ Leninskaya Forge ”claim that their products will be cheaper than their foreign counterparts, they do not even give an approximate price.

It is hoped that the Ukrainian army will acquire the UAG-40. But they require the mandatory production of their own ammunition. So now there is a development of the Ukrainian, and perhaps Belarusian, 40-millimeter grenades. When she passes the test and receives a certificate of validity, then we can talk about purchases

In turn, Russia presented the final version of the AGS-2013 “Balkan” automatic caliber 40 mm at the international weapons exhibition IDEX-40 in the UAE. This is an innovative weapon in which a new principle is applied - a mortar shot with a departing sleeve.

Oleg Chizhevsky, General Director of the Pribor company, said of him: “No one has this. This principle makes it possible to almost double the use of the mass of explosives and, accordingly, increase the fragmentation due to the more dense layout of the projectile. Thus, a significant reduction in mass and an increase in the power of the weapon are provided. ”

According to him, the mass of explosive in the shells to the "Balkan" brought to 90 grams instead of 40 grams. The firing range of the new grenade launcher was increased to 2500 m. Its mass is almost equal to the mass of 30 mm AGS-17 “Flame” grenade launcher, which is in service with the Russian army - about 32 kg. "Balkan" is regularly equipped with an optical sight.

For the first time, the Balkan grenade launcher was shown four years ago at the IDEX-2009 exhibition. The basis is taken by a prototype of 1980-s - 40-mm grenade launcher TKB-0134 "Goat".

Now the Balkan is undergoing state tests, which should end before the end of this year. If there is a state order, production will begin in conjunction with the Izhmash plant, that is, with the Kalashnikov concern.
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  1. twister
    twister 1 November 2013 12: 54 New
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    At least Ukraine, at least Belarus --- the main thing that they create!
    1. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 1 November 2013 13: 41 New
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      And, most importantly, the best is with us anyway! laughing
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 1 November 2013 13: 44 New
        +3
        By 40 mm automatic grenade launchers? Is not a fact.
        1. Dazdranagon
          Dazdranagon 1 November 2013 15: 30 New
          +5
          AGS-40 "Balkan" caliber 40 mm
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 1 November 2013 18: 31 New
            +2
            AND? Do you think Balkan is the best in the world?
            1. Dazdranagon
              Dazdranagon 2 November 2013 01: 20 New
              +1
              Weight, rate of fire, firing range - these are pluses compared to foreign counterparts. I didn’t hold it in my hands, maybe of course the sources lie. There is better, tell me, read! hi
      2. domokl
        domokl 1 November 2013 13: 50 New
        +1
        Quote: twister
        At least Ukraine, at least Belarus --- the main thing that they create!

        I don’t argue .. But why? Reinvent the wheel, knowing that it exists in a better version? The only explanation is to rearm your own army ... And then try to merge into third or fourth countries ...
        1. Akim
          Akim 1 November 2013 14: 14 New
          +8
          Quote: domokl
          Reinvent the bike, knowing that it exists in a better version?

          So let's ban Flowerpots and Constipation. There are better cars.
          1. Dazdranagon
            Dazdranagon 1 November 2013 15: 28 New
            +5
            There is BETTER and CHEAPER! Show the car better and cheaper than VAZ! hi
          2. domokl
            domokl 1 November 2013 15: 37 New
            +5
            Quote: Akim
            So let's ban Flowerpots and Constipation. There are better cars.

            Better a lot of cars. And cheaper? Even the Chinese are a little more expensive than VAZs. That is why in the outback and go or VAZs of all modifications, or old foreign cars, or the Chinese ...
            1. Akim
              Akim 1 November 2013 16: 16 New
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              Quote: domokl
              Even the Chinese are a little more expensive than VAZs

              Quote: domokl
              Dazdranagon

              I’ll answer two at once.
              The Chinese are better and cheaper (you specifically imposed additional duties on him). But they are acceptable in operation with a mild climate. A more severe climate is disastrous for them. So probably here. The buyer should know better what is better and cheaper.
              1. T-130
                T-130 1 November 2013 17: 09 New
                +6
                The Chinese are only more comfortable, but not better in quality, especially those that are assembled in the Caucasian republics
                1. Akim
                  Akim 1 November 2013 17: 25 New
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                  Quote: T-130
                  The Chinese are only more comfortable, but not better in quality,

                  Listen, I have MK-2, many of my many acquaintances are also Chinese. Russian and Ukrainian cars still have to reach for them. Perhaps not very good, and even the image gathered by Caucasian hands does not add to their image. So YerAZ and Colchis at one time were squalor. Collected in Ilyichevsk, Kremenchug and Cherkasy, these are acceptable cars that are superior to the growing / Ukrainian auto industry and for the same money.
                  But this we are leaving about a grenade launcher.
                  1. Ziksura
                    Ziksura 1 November 2013 22: 27 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Akim
                    But this we are leaving about a grenade launcher.

                    Sorry, but you yourself started this discussion:
                    Quote: Akim
                    So let's ban Flowerpots and Constipation.

                    Whose Quote? And there’s no logic in it: the effect for the country's economy from the production of grenade launchers can never be compared with the same effect from the production of cars (mass, employment, loading of snowfields - as a result, the tax base).
                    On the topic: the development of a grenade launcher for ammunition of a direct competitor is a very controversial decision.
                    1. Akim
                      Akim 1 November 2013 23: 56 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Ziksura
                      Sorry, but you yourself started this discussion:

                      Yes I. I tried to bring an example closer to our ordinary life, and not to argue which of them is better. This grenade launcher is as much a commercial project as a car. It is primarily designed for sale in a foreign market. Even for the domestic buyer, a 40 mm grenade is much preferable to a 30 mm grenade. But there were no Soviet automatic 40 mm grenade launchers, and it was expensive to invent a bicycle. And why not. The same Russia took the 9x19 cartridge in service, and not the new 9x21.
              2. Dazdranagon
                Dazdranagon 2 November 2013 01: 10 New
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                No, the Chinese are no better. There was a working Cherry Tigo - standing on the sun - everything, the stench in the cabin is unbearable, the plastic from the steering wheel remains on my hands ... The timing belt flew before reaching 1 thousand km to the MOT - this is not normal, even our reserve mileage of the next MOT ... And VAZ, of course, OFGI with such prices for its cars ... Even despite the fact that the quality has improved markedly. hi
                1. Akim
                  Akim 2 November 2013 01: 30 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Dazdranagon
                  No, the Chinese are no better. There was a working Cherry Tigo - stand on the sun - that's all, the stench in the cabin is unbearable, the plastic from the steering wheel remains on the hands ..

                  We continue the conversation on this topic. What year is Tigo? The fact is that the Chinese are at odds with the Chinese. Even that notorious Amulet is now different. Although the seats as well as were profiled under the low Chinese. In the last series, it was better with the new engine, but the stench remained in the cabin. In the last series, the stink disappeared, and the metal has already become better. But don’t take it anyway!
                  As for Tigo. A friend hangs around and took this SUV after Great Wall in 2009 (in old Odessa he is like Polkan in Bobik’s booth. True, this is still not the Hammer draeney, which is also unmeasured here). So here. In general, Tigo normal car for the money. The release of 2006-7, in the series there were problems including such as you indicated. They later decided them.
          3. nickname 1 and 2
            nickname 1 and 2 1 November 2013 15: 39 New
            +1
            Quote: Akim
            Quote: domokl
            Reinvent the bike, knowing that it exists in a better version?

            So let's ban Flowerpots and Constipation. There are better cars.


            I agree! Let them do it if there is demand = what questions?
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  2. svp67
    svp67 1 November 2013 12: 56 New
    +2
    Once again, it is clear WHY Batko does not want to "fence off" from Ukraine ...
  3. seller trucks
    seller trucks 1 November 2013 13: 03 New
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    Pilot production began at the shipbuilding enterprise of Lenin Forge OJSC in 2010.


    well, very specialized good grenade launchers should be made at a shipyard, however, if armored personnel carriers at Ukrainian shipyards do something to be surprised.
    1. self-propelled
      self-propelled 1 November 2013 13: 05 New
      +2
      Quote: seller trucks
      well, very specialized

      well, somehow you have to survive somehow ... request
    2. Migari
      Migari 1 November 2013 15: 15 New
      +1
      Not surprisingly, there are times when there are no orders at industrial enterprises and unemployment is around, it is necessary to determine what can be produced at the plants themselves, unless equipment and highly qualified personnel allow it, it’s a pity that Ukraine will now have highly developed engineering when Kiev signs with the EU association agreement?
  4. AVV
    AVV 1 November 2013 13: 09 New
    +7
    Yes Old Man is more important to do for the Russian army, but you don’t need Ukrainian weapons in NATO, and Europe and the States will do everything to close all military production on an independent one !!! Only the most important thing for them is for Ukraine to sign an integration agreement, and then the matter technicians !!!
  5. makarov
    makarov 1 November 2013 13: 15 New
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    ".. This year, shipbuilders have made a pre-production batch of 12 grenade launchers. By the end of the year, serial production with a capacity of 500 units per year can be launched ..."
    But it is unlikely.
    Uv. readers and comments. Having certain knowledge and experience in this industry, I declare that the UAG-40 unit has no prospects for development, since it is "raw" and "not tested", but this niche of weapons in the NATO standard has not been modified since the 70s, that is from the years of birth.
    Whether the case is the Russian AGS-40 Balkan grenade launcher, and especially the ammunition for it. The VOG-40 ammunition, in principle, can be the same for both the grenade launcher and the loom, and for the lightweight manual version. It cannot be said that replacing the initiating element on an ammunition with an electric one, and changing the pitch of the nozzles, you can get ammunition for an easy multiple launch rocket system, an entirely new type of weapon. In a word, there are development prospects, and they are quite serious.
    1. Kars
      Kars 1 November 2013 13: 31 New
      +2
      Krainsky shipyard "Lenin Forge" begins production of UA-40 grenade launchers. The development of the Precision Mechanisms design bureau will allow Petro Poroshenko to fill a niche for the production of grenade launchers with the aim of selling them to the countries of Southeast Asia and Africa.

      In addition to the Lenin Forge, factories that are located in the Sumy, Chernihiv, Kharkov regions, as well as the Kiev Satmash plant will participate in the project.

      According to the company's calculations, at least 500 units will be produced per year, the cost of each, tentatively, will be 20 thousand dollars.

      The UAG-40 grenade launcher allows you to shoot at a distance of more than two kilometers. This weapon is used both against lightly armored vehicles and against manpower. At the same time, the grenade launcher is easy to use, and it is quite light, so that it can easily be carried by one soldier.


      Well, when did a money bag wet your money for nothing? If everything is so bad? While there are already rumors that the first consignments of grenade launchers will be sent to Sudan.
    2. bullet
      bullet 1 November 2013 15: 15 New
      +2
      Dear makarov! If, as you write, you are a specialist in this field, then you should know that the State tests of the 6G27 complex began in the distant 2007, and have not been completed so far. The main issues were primarily to the shot. And will the test be the best test !!! I also love my weapon, but I don’t like people who run ahead of the engine.
      Regards, bullet.
  6. major071
    major071 1 November 2013 13: 25 New
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    Why create a grenade launcher under the NATO standard, if there are similar ones, and even cheaper. It is clear that they will not be adopted by NATO countries. In Africa and Asia, more weapons of Soviet standards.
    1. Akim
      Akim 1 November 2013 14: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: major071
      . In Africa and Asia, more weapons of Soviet standards.

      Are there 40 mm Soviet grenades? With regards to the 30 mm, is it almost impossible to beat AGS-17/30?
      1. bullet
        bullet 1 November 2013 15: 22 New
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        The maximum firing range using the GPD-30 shot is 2100 meters.
      2. turanchox
        turanchox 1 November 2013 20: 32 New
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        VOG-25, since the 70s
        1. Akim
          Akim 1 November 2013 21: 15 New
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          Quote: Turanchox
          VOG-25, since the 70s

          Is there now an easel grenade launcher that shoot grenades from a grenade launcher? The Americans had in Vietnam and the XM174 and Mk 18 Mod 0, but they did not take root, in view of the short range.
  7. ZU-23
    ZU-23 1 November 2013 13: 28 New
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    Ukraine I look and here it helps its owners))), the universal automatic grenade launcher UAG-40 for a standard NATO grenade, well, they’ll fully adapt to the owner)))
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 1 November 2013 18: 48 New
      +1
      It is they who are preparing for hostilities on enemy territory. They came, they took it from the NATO warehouse and went on.
  8. Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer 1 November 2013 14: 26 New
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    In Ukraine, the main military news now is this one:
    The 23-year-old blonde was appointed to lead the national military museum of Ukraine.
    Serious personnel rotations took place in the National Military History Museum, as a result of which the chair of the deputy director went to 23-year-old Anastasia Furman.
    According to the publication, the leadership in the main military museum changed after the arrival of the new head of the Ministry of Defense.
    First, the museum rudely dismissed "the creator of the system of museums of the Ministry of Defense", candidate of sciences, Colonel V. Karpov. Vladislav Taranets took his place, according to the museum's website, who immediately fired the deputy director of the museum, Colonel Abramov, who at one time managed to work and In senior positions in the General Staff. Here, in the place of Colonel Abramov, a spectacular young lady named Anastasia Furman was appointed. According to the publication, Furman's mother is part of the business environment of the new Minister of Defense.
    The museum staff remembers their new boss, first of all, by the ease with which she changes the cars that she comes to work with.


    And here about some grenade launchers wassat .
    1. ZU-23
      ZU-23 1 November 2013 14: 34 New
      +3
      haha, in general, the country was steamed, and now deathly silence)))
    2. starhina01
      starhina01 1 November 2013 14: 57 New
      +8
      Well, the campaign your defense minister got infected from a stool wassat and how is this infection transmitted? laughing
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 1 November 2013 15: 04 New
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        Quote: starhina01
        and how is this infection transmitted?

        Do not believe it, but it is sexually wassat
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 1 November 2013 18: 53 New
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Do not believe it, but it is sexually

          "Hooray!" - the comrade said,
          the sexual question was solved.
          No need stick us elastic -
          Throw, brothers, sticks in the corner ...
          Cause you move a naked stick
          And the result will be a fig.
          I bought a round special device
          And a set of rags for him,
          We pour some water into the device -
          And we solve the sexual issue ...


          I do not care to wash the floors -
          Have you thought about what?
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 1 November 2013 15: 03 New
      +6
      Quote: Drosselmeyer
      And here about some grenade launchers

      No, well, but I understand the new boss. I would also TAKE her at work, in the sense of work winked
    4. Jogan-xnumx
      Jogan-xnumx 1 November 2013 16: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: Drosselmeyer
      The 23-year-old blonde was appointed to lead the national military museum of Ukraine.

      PI ... EC !!!! fool It remains a couple of the same to sit in the chair of the president and prime minister. And then this parody of the country will cease to be even a parody ... wassat
      1. Akim
        Akim 1 November 2013 17: 31 New
        +3
        Quote: Jogan-64
        It remains a couple of the same to sit in the chair of the president and prime minister. And then this parody of the country will cease to be even a parody ..

        Stupidity has its limits, and this purpose has crossed them. Only for this reason it is not worth making conclusions. And then you are categorical in everything, as in the dispute yesterday.
        1. Jogan-xnumx
          Jogan-xnumx 2 November 2013 12: 55 New
          -1
          Especially for you.
          Quote: Akim
          Stupidity has its limits ...

          “There are only two endless things: the universe and stupidity. Although, I'm not sure about the universe. ” Albert Einstein.
          Quote: Akim
          ... therefore, do not make inferences.

          “There is no such stupidity that could not be corrected with the help of the mind, and there is no such wisdom that could not be spoiled with the help of stupidity.” Goethe.
          Quote: Akim
          ... you are categorical in everything ...

          “National leaders are servants and guardians of the nation. They do not think about personal good. A national leader should not seek to expand personal privileges and authority. ” David lane.

          Here they are - categorical. And I just don’t use pink glasses. And I also call a spade a spade ... hi
    5. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 1 November 2013 18: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: Drosselmeyer
      The 23-year-old blonde was appointed to lead the national military museum of Ukraine.

      With all my heart I congratulate the Slav brothers on a great holiday, the appointment of a blonde. Julia’s case seems to be growing and flourishing.
    6. Same lech
      Same lech 1 November 2013 19: 24 New
      +5
      LITTLE.
      The new FEMALE BATTALION is now in UKRAINE.
      I sympathize with the brothers - Ukrainians that they do not have such a bottomless budget as in RUSSIA - they will rake everything together with bedbugs. sad
      1. Akim
        Akim 1 November 2013 19: 39 New
        +4
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        I sympathize with the brothers - Ukrainians that they do not have such a bottomless budget as in RUSSIA

        Or maybe the other way around? Her parents are rich people. So they’ll divorce a trap so that for everything that was previously sleeping ... (a more decent word does not reflect the meaning) in the museum, it paid money. tongue
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 1 November 2013 21: 24 New
          +2
          Vasilyeva also has rich parents (her father bought the famous apartment). But this did not stop her from thoroughly rummaging in the pockets of the Moscow Region
          1. Akim
            Akim 1 November 2013 21: 31 New
            +1
            Quote: Spade
            But this did not stop her from thoroughly rummaging in the pockets of the Moscow Region

            Vasilieva, already a mature woman, and this is young and green. Child of nightclubs and boutiques. Most likely, the brain is a vegetable.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 1 November 2013 21: 37 New
              +2
              Well, well ... There are "young greens" worse than mature ones. Because life is not beat, and more impudence.
              1. Akim
                Akim 1 November 2013 21: 42 New
                +2
                Quote: Spade
                There are "young greens" worse than mature ones

                Young and green are arrogant, greedy, but Dumb! Probably they also drove me at that age.
            2. smersh70
              smersh70 1 November 2013 21: 41 New
              +3
              Quote: Akim
              Vasilieva, already a mature woman

              he was once young too smile by the way, the shas looked at her .... grew fat .... grew stout .... the vidon was not the same ... probably she had a bad effect on house arrest .... it’s hard for her in 4 walls .... wassat
      2. smersh70
        smersh70 1 November 2013 21: 13 New
        +3
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        I sympathize with the brothers - Ukrainians that they do not have such a bottomless budget as in RUSSIA

        and you put women on tanks)))))) here's how to proceed laughing
    7. pawel57
      pawel57 1 November 2013 20: 56 New
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      Your Serdyukov.
    8. smersh70
      smersh70 1 November 2013 21: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: Drosselmeyer
      how easily she changes the cars on which she comes to work.

      and she’s interested in a driver who doesn’t need ..... Ukraine’s budget is big .. there’s likely to be money for the driver’s salary))) although she agrees to work for free wassat
      1. Akim
        Akim 1 November 2013 21: 27 New
        +3
        Quote: smersh70
        ) although for her I agree to work for free

        And then she will make the car run at her own expense. Eh men, men. We are the weaker sex, not them. am
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 1 November 2013 21: 39 New
          +3
          Quote: Akim
          And then she makes the car run at her own expense

          Yes with pleasure good Yes, for the sake of such a blonde, and I will open the door for her for free ... where will she get to then from me .... wassat
          1. Akim
            Akim 1 November 2013 21: 53 New
            +2
            Quote: smersh70
            . where will she then get away from me ...

            I know in Odessa. Your diaspora is not always lucky in such matters. They take advantage of your weakness for women.
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 2 November 2013 00: 25 New
              +1
              Quote: Akim
              They take advantage of your weakness for women.

              it is))) it happens)))
              Quote: Akim
              your diaspora has luck in such matters.

              Well, I don’t know about the Diaspora))) but personal mushrooms above all good
  9. family tree
    family tree 1 November 2013 15: 27 New
    +6
    And God created a blonde
    And she was weak and defenseless ... but funny winked
    And there was no escape from her! wassat
    Almost quote what
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  11. Pharao7766
    Pharao7766 1 November 2013 15: 42 New
    +4
    If anyone didn’t see the AGS-40 ...

    Sacred with:
    http://spec-naz.org/armory/launchers/ags_40_balkan/
  12. makarov
    makarov 1 November 2013 15: 52 New
    +2
    Quote: bullet
    State tests of the 6G27 complex began in the distant 2007, and have not been completed so far.


    And the work of niocra began back in the 90s. At the expense of "paravoz" and the Motherland, see the profile picture, I am actually from Ukraine and have no interaction with the structures of the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation. I say what I see and calculate. And there is no need to talk about me, I myself am able to answer for both words and deeds.
    1. Kars
      Kars 1 November 2013 16: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: makarov
      actually from Ukraine and interaction with the structures of the military industrial complex of the Russian Federation do not have

      Quote: makarov
      on the entire front page of the official media of the government of the Russian Federation. there they called me one of the best

      Quote: makarov
      And you don’t need to talk about me, I myself am able to answer for both words and deeds.

      Here on the internet?
      Quote: bullet
      6G27 started back in 2007, and have not been completed so far. The main questions were primarily about the shot

      So is there a shot or not? Has mass production begun?
      1. bullet
        bullet 1 November 2013 20: 13 New
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        According to the results of the first stage of the GI, the shot was finalized. Naturally, there is currently no mass production. Assembly for testing.
    2. bullet
      bullet 1 November 2013 19: 16 New
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      And I'm talking about what I took the test. If it’s not clear, then look at the avatar. It's one thing to read about something, and another thing to work with your hands. And I tell you that all the problems were in the shot.
  13. mountain
    mountain 1 November 2013 16: 16 New
    -4
    Ukraine and China, not something in common, but one manners. HA- Ha.
  14. makarov
    makarov 1 November 2013 16: 19 New
    +3
    P.S. To the earlier said.
    Uv.bullet.
    You don’t know me, and therefore, you should not give an assessment of my activity in the arms industry, since it has already been given a long time ago and was published on the entire front page of the official media of the Russian government. they called me one of the best there, although I myself do not think so and never did. and in general with regards to the field I try to stay in the shade, sometimes emotions just break through into a clear lie.
    1. Kars
      Kars 1 November 2013 16: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: makarov
      and the entire front page of the official media of the government of the Russian Federation. there they called me one of the best

      Can I link to the studio?
      Quote: makarov
      in general with regards to the field I try to stay in the shade,

      And what did that break through here?
      Quote: makarov
      and break through into a clear lie.

      which one?
    2. bullet
      bullet 1 November 2013 19: 44 New
      +1
      Dear Makarov! In my reports, I wanted to convey to you the idea that the evaluation of the sample should begin with the results of State tests (compliance with the requirements of the TTZ), and if adopted, with the comments of specific users, in order to decide on further modernization. Unfortunately, at present, none of this exists. I also draw your attention to the fact that I did not go over to personality, and did not want to offend anyone! Unfortunately, at present, there are a lot of people (including those dressed in state power) who make statements that are not confirmed by experience.
      Sincerely, Dmitry.
  15. makarov
    makarov 1 November 2013 16: 46 New
    0
    Quote: Kars
    Here on the internet?

    In PM, but only within the acceptable range.
    1. Kars
      Kars 1 November 2013 16: 53 New
      +3
      Quote: makarov
      In PM, but only within the acceptable range.

      Weirdly brag about it openly, and respond to the Lichku in a limited way.

      Quote: makarov
      that the UAG-40 unit has no prospects for development, since it is "raw" and "not tested", but this niche of weapons in the NATO standard has not been modified since the 70s, that is, since the years of its appearance.
      Is it the case of the Russian grenade launcher AGS-40 "Balkan"

      If honestly it’s just ridiculous. Considering that ..TOLIOR BUSINESS ..has not been adopted yet and there is no ammunition.
      Quote: makarov
      ", And especially the ammunition for it. Ammunition vog-40,

      Where is he?
      And if you are special then give specifics. Maybe you also held one and the other in your hands?
  16. makarov
    makarov 1 November 2013 16: 51 New
    0
    Quote: Kars
    Can I link to the studio?


    who are interested, he will find

    Quote: Kars
    And what did that break through here?

    Yes, you look at the YouTube promo video of the machine tool named after Poroshenko, you yourself will understand
    1. Kars
      Kars 1 November 2013 17: 02 New
      +3
      Quote: makarov
      who are interested, he will find

      So find it.
      Quote: makarov
      Yes, you look at the YouTube promo video of the machine tool named after Poroshenko, you yourself will understand

      what an extensive answer.
  17. makarov
    makarov 1 November 2013 17: 04 New
    +3
    Quote: Kars
    bragging openly

    Unlike you, I always publish under my own name and surname, and never hide my position ... and I'm somewhat surprised by the method of pulling quotes with my own conclusions without understanding what is happening.
    due to its design features, the military naturally put forward justified requirements for the Vog - 40 ammunition, in principle, somewhat similar to those of the shellless ammunition on A.V. Hekler.
    Everything is quite natural, as well as the fact that the complex is undergoing state tests, unlike the Ukrainian one, where 12 working models were made. Do you even understand the essence and difference between the finished sample and the working layout?
    1. Kars
      Kars 1 November 2013 19: 06 New
      +4
      Quote: makarov
      because of its design features, the military naturally put forward the Vog - 40 ammunition

      So is it or isn’t it? Then, how does this grenade launcher fire standard NATO ammunition.
      Quote: makarov
      Yes, and I respect myself, to talk with a nickname, it’s the same as talking with a door,

      What are you doing on the internet then?
      Quote: makarov
      Everything is quite natural, as well as the fact that the complex is undergoing state tests,

      How long can it pass state tests?
      Quote: makarov
      De made 12 working models.
      How is this a working layout? Does it not shoot? And yes, how do you know the layout or the sample?
      And what do you care if they are produced by a private company? And besides, there are statements that Sudan has already ordered itself.
      Quote: makarov
      to talk with a nickname is equivalent to talking to a door, even if she’s in the marshal’s uniform
      Well, what can I say telling tales on the Internet is not a tricky thing, and start clever at ... Link to the studio ... instead of the usual link

      In Perm, the investigation of the criminal case against the deputy of the legislative assembly Pavel Makarov has been completed. The officer is charged with several episodes of fraud and abuse of authority. Perm deputy accused of fraud of almost 70 million rubles ..
      I understand this is YOU?
      http://prm.ru/accident/289928/
  18. makarov
    makarov 1 November 2013 17: 10 New
    +1
    Quote: Kars
    So find it.


    you uv. You can fast with peers or those who wish, not at that age. Yes, and I respect myself to talk with a nickname, this is equivalent to talking with a door, even if it is in the marshal's uniform. After all, we do not get angry at the door when we accidentally pinch a finger.
    1. vanaheym
      vanaheym 1 November 2013 22: 03 New
      +2
      Quote: makarov
      I’m not at that age. Yes, and I respect myself to talk with a nickname, it’s equivalent to talking to a door, even if it’s in the marshal’s uniform

      Are you here for someone else, except for a nickname, who nevertheless, for some unknown reason and an increased PSI, bends his fingers? Or should the word "makarov" near the avatar evoke a sense of holiness and +100 to authority?
  19. Mercenary
    Mercenary 1 November 2013 17: 16 New
    +2
    two of China at hand it agree too
    1. Akim
      Akim 1 November 2013 17: 35 New
      +2
      Quote: Mercenary
      two of China at hand it agree too


      Who, Th slamzy "second!" China?
      1. Muadipus
        Muadipus 1 November 2013 18: 13 New
        +2
        The assignee of the USSR is the Russian Federation. The assignee - means that all the rights and obligations of the USSR passed to Russia. Is the logic clear?
        After the collapse of the USSR in late 1991, the Russian Federation was recognized by the international community as the successor state of the USSR [17] and took its place on the UN Security Council [18]
        1. Akim
          Akim 1 November 2013 18: 20 New
          +2
          Quote: Muadipus
          The assignee - means that all the rights and obligations of the USSR passed to Russia. Is the logic clear?

          Development rights belong to design bureaus and factories. + 10 year term. Bulgaria is now releasing Kalash and MTLB without any remorse.
        2. Cristall
          Cristall 2 November 2013 02: 16 New
          0
          Find and read what succession covers and does not apply to.
          Already repeatedly this thesis has been refuted. Tired of the order. Soon they will reach the pen with this slogan of the Legal Assignment for anything and everything ....
  20. Cherdak
    Cherdak 1 November 2013 17: 37 New
    +1
    Quote: Pharao7766
    If anyone didn’t see the AGS-40 ...


    Strange, but I’ve come across so much more bully

    http://www.popmech.ru/article/1440-groza-sorokovogo-kalibra/photo/23559/#foto
    1. Chukcha
      Chukcha 1 November 2013 19: 14 New
      0
      In this design, the sight confuses me. The video clearly shows how the tool "jumps" on the bed. If in this version you touch the sight eyepiece, you can get it in the eye.
      And the rest - handsome of course.
      1. family tree
        family tree 1 November 2013 19: 45 New
        +1
        Quote: Cherdak
        It’s strange, but I’ve come across so much more bully

        http://www.popmech.ru/article/1440-groza-sorokovogo-kalibra/photo/23559/#foto

        Even he reminds me of an April Fool’s joke laughing Glamorous winked
        Brutal here: http://commi.narod.ru/asb/r/ww4g.htm
  21. Muadipus
    Muadipus 1 November 2013 18: 02 New
    0
    I was a little surprised by the absence of any flash when fired at night (watch the end of the video 2:30)
  22. kind
    kind 1 November 2013 18: 53 New
    0
    Well well done that created!
  23. rereture
    rereture 1 November 2013 19: 30 New
    0
    Yes, Ukraine is just preparing for NATO
    NATO will hold the largest exercises in the last ten years to deploy a rapid reaction force near the border with Russia. Ukraine and Finland will also take part in military maneuvers.

    As part of the NATO exercises starting on November 2 in Latvia and Poland, actions will be practiced to deploy rapid reaction forces in the areas bordering with Russia. The maneuvers, dubbed Steadfast Jazz, will demonstrate how NATO can operate in areas close to Russia's borders.

    "Our partners - Ukraine and Finland - will also take part in these exercises," NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen emphasized. According to him, this will allow both countries to join the rotation of units in the Alliance's Rapid Reaction Forces in 2014.


    http://www.dni.ru/polit/2013/11/1/263170.html
  24. alone
    alone 1 November 2013 20: 43 New
    +2
    it would be interesting what some would say if this grenade launcher would have created Venezuela? probably would have begun to praise and call it a "breakthrough" in this area of ​​armament. and if created in Ukraine, a variety of srach immediately began. if he is a copy, then he is generally not needed. some laugh at the fact that it is made at a shipyard, etc.

    but the fact that 6 tug boats for the Pacific Fleet are being made not in Vladivostok, but in St. Petersburg, and then they drive there on German ships for a decent amount - not a word.
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 1 November 2013 21: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: lonely
      but the fact that 6 tug boats for the Pacific Fleet are being made not in Vladivostok, but in St. Petersburg, and then they drive there on German ships for a decent amount - not a word.


      The mind cannot understand Russia ... a common arshin cannot be measured ..... smile
    2. wk-083
      wk-083 1 November 2013 23: 31 New
      -3
      For a banana Venezuela, this would be a breakthrough, but for industrial Ukraine it’s rather small.
      1. Cristall
        Cristall 2 November 2013 02: 22 New
        +2
        C'mon - even here in VO I see some statements that apart from gorilka and lard we can’t release anything and couldn’t (or should not) ...
        and of course you flatter ...
        It would be a blessing for me to buy more in our army. And the factory worked and the army shot.
        it’s enough that for some reason I learn about the aspiration to NATO of Ukraine only here. Actually, according to the constitution, it is said differently. It annoys me a little that they almost inspire us that we are in NATO, and we have not been joining for 22 years ...
        Nevertheless, I am glad - an article on the armament of Ukraine - and not this endless stream of political srach about the EU / TS choice.
  25. twister
    twister 1 November 2013 22: 09 New
    0
    The Pacific frontier is not for you at all .... sizes are not the same! !!!! 1x4 of the world's oceans!
  26. Krilion
    Krilion 2 November 2013 03: 46 New
    0
    too bulky construction and completely unsuitable for maneuverable combat in urban conditions ... Russian grenade launchers are much better ...
  27. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 2 November 2013 03: 55 New
    0
    oh, brothers, thank you for your dashing! Fuck with her with politics
  28. makarov
    makarov 2 November 2013 05: 18 New
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    Quote: vanaheym
    Are you here for someone else but nick, who nevertheless bends his fingers for some unknown reason and increased ChSV?

    But was the question who for whom and what is? And is not a concrete specimen set forth? Is displaying your real name on a nickname something shameful? Is a critical statement regarding the discussed aggregate a basis for distortions and perversities regarding the comments?
    Remember (!), The most correct assessment of human activity is the assessment of society, of which you are naturally a member. But the assessment should be based on knowledge and experience, only then it will be much more correct. And to the mottos and squeals like "hey-him, hey ..", I’m no stranger. This has already happened in my life ...
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  30. marder4
    marder4 28 May 2014 17: 20 New
    0
    the good news is that a new weapon will definitely not hurt us ...