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What did the Russian reconnaissance aircraft on the Turkish border? ("Yeni Safak", Turkey)

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There are no problems in the relations between Turkey and Russia in the military sphere. Bilateral relations in the economic field are today the best in stories. Despite the fact that Turkey is a NATO country and is associated with the transatlantic axis, it can enter into fairly close cooperation with Russia in matters relating primarily to the Black Sea. From the point of view of both countries, Turkish-Russian relations look like a model model.


What did the Russian reconnaissance aircraft on the Turkish border? ("Yeni Safak", Turkey)


Nevertheless, according to the statement of the General Staff of Turkey, a strange situation has arisen, in which it is not yet precisely defined what exactly happened. Russian aircraft is approaching Turkish airspace on the Turkish-Georgian border. Turkish F-16 come on alert. In parallel with each other along the air border, the planes of the two countries fly to the Turkish-Bulgarian border.

In this regard, the question arises: would a Russian plane violate Turkish airspace if Turkish fighters had not made a “interception flight”? Judging by the fact that the planes were alarmed, this probability must have been very high.

A statement by the Turkish General Staff states: “An Il-20 military aircraft belonging to Russia, October 22, 2013, from 16.37 to 19.05, flew from the border of Turkey and Georgia to the border of Turkey and Bulgaria in international airspace over the Black Sea along the coast of Turkey from east to west. The aircraft (F-16.38) at 16 that reached 17.14 intercepted a military aircraft belonging to Russia in the region of Ordu province and, while in Turkish airspace, followed the plane to the Turkish-Bulgarian border. As soon as the plane left the region at 19.05, the Turkish planes returned to the air base. ”

We are talking about the aircraft type IL-20. This is not a transport aircraft. This is not a combat aircraft. Passenger and transport aircraft designer Ilyushin really exist. But the aircraft, which caused concern in connection with the entry into the airspace of Turkey, is in fact a reconnaissance aircraft.

It can be called the Russian equivalent aviation complexes AWACS available in the United States and some NATO countries. The Il-20 and Il-20 Coot are a NATO-designed electronic reconnaissance aircraft.

It changes things. Although the data on this incident were not completely clarified, discarding warnings, one should ponder the following questions: Why does an electronic reconnaissance aircraft belonging to Russia fly around Turkish borders? Why in threatening form, he is so close to the border? Is this the settling of accounts between the two countries unknown to us, and so the resulting force demonstration was carried out? Aerial surveillance that lasted for 2,5 hours, regardless of how to interpret it, is not the norm.

After a simple search, we learn that a similar incident occurred in another state. 29 of March of this year, the same Russian electronic intelligence aircraft type IL-20 similarly flew near the Swedish border, and fears in the Baltic Sea were caused by an excessive approach to the airspace of Sweden. Although the prosecution did not take place as quickly as in Turkey, this incident was a cause for serious concern in Sweden.

The most significant difference in the approaches of Ankara and Moscow is observed on the Syrian issue. The two countries stand in diametrically opposite positions and have not changed them since the first day of the Syrian crisis.

If this plane was a transport, apparently, then it would be possible to link this incident with Syria. While we are talking about a reconnaissance aircraft, it is possible to talk about different options regarding its pursuit from the Georgian to the Bulgarian border.

During the discussion around the figure of Hakan Fidan and the activities of intelligence services, the scandal between the US and Europe in connection with the interception, the discouraging rapprochement between Iran and the United States, the serious upheavals in the US and Saudi Arabia opposing this rapprochement, much like "Be probable."

Perhaps, around Turkey strive to start a new dispute? If there are many common questions with the United States, Iran, Israel, Syria, perhaps in relations between Turkey and Russia, to which both countries approach very carefully, is a crisis fueled?

Or is this a Moscow test focused on US and NATO intelligence on the Black Sea coast? Tested reflex, defense, susceptibility of Turkey?

Even if this is the case, whatever the goal, can such an approach lead to any serious consequences?

I think we have the right to expect a statement from Russia that would calm public opinion on this issue. Turkey, on the other hand, should inform public opinion in more detail regarding the nature, details, and reasons for the General Staff’s statement.

We really do not see any logical reason for Russia to carry out such a disturbing action. We just show interest.

If Turkey builds a balanced relationship with Russia, even to the extent that American ships leave the Black Sea during the war in Georgia, what is happening in the Black Sea now?

Has the Russian aircraft tapped Turkey or the US and NATO military bases located in Turkey, on the Black Sea coast?
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  1. rrrd
    rrrd 29 October 2013 07: 13
    0
    Daughters but check!
    1. SHILO
      SHILO 29 October 2013 07: 50
      77
      In the "Dumbest Question of the Year" nomination - what was the Russian reconnaissance plane doing on the Turkish border? what Turkey wins. fellow wassat
      1. Narkom
        Narkom 29 October 2013 07: 59
        15
        He flew there, what else could he do.
        1. AK-47
          AK-47 29 October 2013 09: 55
          15
          Quote: Narkom
          He flew there, what else could he do.

          We decided to find out whether Turkey was ready to join the customs union, but it didn’t work, they didn’t let it in.
          1. velikoros-xnumx
            velikoros-xnumx 29 October 2013 11: 27
            +1
            Quote: AK-47
            We decided to find out whether Turkey was ready to join the customs union, but it didn’t work, they didn’t let it in.

            good
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 29 October 2013 08: 54
        12
        Quote: SHILO
        Turkey wins

        Japan also constantly wins. They will only see on radars, so the whole top is on the bunkers, and up to two dozen fighters rise to intercept.
      3. varov14
        varov14 29 October 2013 15: 01
        +2
        Here are fools, it’s always better to follow your own border along a stranger.
      4. edge
        edge 29 October 2013 17: 10
        +1
        Quote: SHILO
        What did the Russian reconnaissance aircraft on the Turkish border?

        elementary; the Turks are striving to pull off the Crimea from Ukraine, so ours show, do not meddle there
      5. Rink
        Rink 29 October 2013 19: 15
        10
        And what was the Turkish RF4 "Fantom" doing in Syrian airspace ?! Note, not at the borders, but over the territory of a sovereign state?
        Well now twitch something?

        Turks feed armed bandits, killing Syrians and destroying the country. And Turkey not only gives them shelter and a place for the formation of bandit groups, but also helps in recruiting, arming, and even from time to time Turkish personnel officers are spotted in Syria.
        Thus, although Turkey did not formally declare war on Syria, it is de facto waging it, and is at least an accomplice to war crimes.

        And this two-facedness is amazing: for the Turks it turns out to bring war and destruction to someone else’s house - this is normal, but as soon as someone's scout approaches their own borders (without crossing them !! legally there are no violations!), The point for the Turks is here it starts to play. They begin to think about what this means, and what could have happened if ... and so on. Afraid, you see!

        It is necessary to restore justice in the world, I think. Maybe suggest Zhirinovsky to submit to the UN a proposal to modernize international law on the principle of "eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth"?
        For example, Syria now lacks the strength to respond to Turkey with the same coin. Then she submits an application to the UN, and the sent international military contingent (say, "red helmets") with the UN mandate is taken to do mirror actions on the territory of Turkey: to fire mortars from peaceful quarters, steal oil in tanks and export property and equipment of the looted from Turkey to Syria enterprises. According to the list, there are as many mines and enterprises in Syria today, as there are in Syria tomorrow.
        In my opinion, this method will beat off the desire for double standards quickly?

        And the effectiveness of the new "red helmets" will be several orders of magnitude higher than the outdated "white helmets" of the UN "peacekeepers", which are usually of little use. After all, they cannot put things in order either on the borders of Israel, or in African countries ... Only in vain do they receive their salaries.

        How is the idea?

        Since NATO and America decided to go back to cave principles, let's be consistent! The aggressor should experience exactly as much as the victim of his aggression. This will be the fairest justice of the new cave age.
    2. Civil
      Civil 29 October 2013 07: 52
      31
      In Turkey, Turks hate Russia, those tourists from Russia who understand insults in the Turkish language are no longer eager to go to Turkey. But the Kurds are exactly the opposite. Our attitude is very good, and I think we need to help S.S.R. :-) who knows will understand.
      1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 29 October 2013 11: 19
        +5
        Quote: Civil
        Turks hate Russia in Turkey

        it’s understandable, they’ve received so many faces by their faces, now they have them at the genetic level! laughing
      2. ayyildiz
        ayyildiz 29 October 2013 12: 34
        +2
        Quote: Civil
        In Turkey, Turks hate Russia,

        Here you ask the Russians who live in Turkey!
        Have you ever seen Kurds?
        1. Civil
          Civil 29 October 2013 17: 12
          +7
          Quote: ayyildiz
          Quote: Civil
          In Turkey, Turks hate Russia,

          Here you ask the Russians who live in Turkey!
          Have you ever seen Kurds?


          Darling, we saw the Kurds, we see and we will see, the Russians who live in Turkey is who? Runaway Czechs and prostitutes? Eastern lies in the eye provides insults, provided 100% lack of knowledge of the language by the interlocutor.
          1. ayyildiz
            ayyildiz 29 October 2013 23: 52
            +1
            Quote: Civil
            Darling, we saw the Kurds, we see and will see


            And how you distinguish them from the Turks!

            Quote: Civil
            Runaway Czechs and prostitutes?

            Mixed families, full!
            1. Civil
              Civil 30 October 2013 07: 29
              0
              Quote: ayyildiz
              Quote: Civil
              Darling, we saw the Kurds, we see and will see


              And how you distinguish them from the Turks!

              Quote: Civil
              Runaway Czechs and prostitutes?

              Mixed families, full!

              In Kurdish language and attitude.
              The main thing is that the "Natasha" from mixed marriages, the results are left in Turkey and not brought here, when they understand how tourism differs from emigration :-)
      3. smersh70
        smersh70 29 October 2013 17: 05
        +1
        Quote: Civil
        Turkey hates Russia

        complete nonsense........
        Quote: Civil
        tourists from Russia who understand insults in the Turkish language are no longer eager to go to Turkey

        You have been authorized to say so by all tourists who understand Turkish wassat
        1. Civil
          Civil 29 October 2013 17: 16
          +2
          Quote: smersh70
          Quote: Civil
          Turkey hates Russia

          complete nonsense........
          Quote: Civil
          tourists from Russia who understand insults in the Turkish language are no longer eager to go to Turkey

          You have been authorized to say so by all tourists who understand Turkish wassat

          I had in mind tourists of indigenous nationalities from Russia. If you know what I'm talking about. Azerbaijani and Turkish are almost the same language, but some are Sunnis and others are Shiites. This abyss is insurmountable.
          1. alone
            alone 29 October 2013 21: 41
            +2
            Türks, they are also in Africa Türks. And religious views do not play a role here.
        2. Rink
          Rink 29 October 2013 19: 27
          +2
          I confirm that the Turks do not like Russians.
          Whoever gets out of the hotel and communicates with local people (not with hotel staff or shop sellers) will not let you lie.
          1. lelikas
            lelikas 29 October 2013 22: 56
            +3
            Quote: Skating rink
            I confirm that the Turks do not like Russians.

            And I do not confirm!
            Probably because it was always chosen sober, well, almost always.
            They do not like those 100% cattle that come only to thump for free, with normal people and the conversation is different.
      4. Patriot.ru.
        Patriot.ru. 29 October 2013 20: 39
        +3
        In vain did Ajalan surrender.
    3. Deniska999
      Deniska999 29 October 2013 08: 09
      +5
      What did you do? He made sure that you did not make a shit.
    4. Genry
      Genry 29 October 2013 11: 05
      12
      It's just that the Turks still cannot get away from an incident that happened somewhere in 1984 (I don't remember exactly). Then the TU-22 (from Baranovichi) went off course, lost a partner and circled over Turkey for several hours, not wanting to respond to a radio call. And only when the pilot saw the mountainous terrain, he realized that he was not over the Urals and the sun appeared on the wrong side, went into radio communication and was "delighted".
      The Turks, that day, had some kind of holiday, the air defense completely got drunk, and no one noticed the distant bomber.
      Our Foreign Ministry, then, surprised the Turks with their recognition and, of course, an apology.
    5. luka095
      luka095 29 October 2013 17: 20
      +4
      Scouted, since scouting. And what is it that the Turks suddenly drove a wave? What unusual happened? And why should Russia make statements to calm public opinion? And then you might think that only Russia has reconnaissance aircraft, or only Russian ones fly ...
  2. rrrd
    rrrd 29 October 2013 07: 17
    14
    This makes me happy! What scouts fly! No matter how cordial relations with a neighboring fiction, you should always keep your ear sharp!
    1. knn54
      knn54 29 October 2013 12: 46
      12
      -rrrd: That pleases!
      I remembered the classics: “Frost-voivode watch
      He circumvents his possessions. "
      Planes fly, scouts scout. And so it is accepted all over the world.
      And their (Turkish) intelligence is very arrogant and unprincipled, let them write about it.
      PS AWACS is an aircraft radio-detection and guidance complex (AWACS), and the IL-20 is a radio-technical reconnaissance aircraft and intended for reconnaissance along the state border and border strip, that is, it is not an AWACS equivalent.
      1. bif
        bif 30 October 2013 02: 21
        0
        Quote: knn54
        it is not an AWACS equivalent.

        "On October 25, an Il-20 electronic reconnaissance aircraft flew over the Sea of ​​Japan, a Japanese Air Force fighter was raised to intercept it. As it became known, an upgraded Il-20M Anagramma reconnaissance aircraft was in the air."
        According to available information from open sources, by 2010 EMZ im. Myasishchev, the Il-20M radio-technical reconnaissance aircraft was modernized in accordance with the development work of the Anagram program.
        The development of OCD "Anagram" has been kept secret for a long time. At the moment, it is known that the aircraft is equipped with a multi-frequency radio-technical complex with side-looking radar stations developed by TsNIRTI im. Academician A. I. Berg. "
    2. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter 29 October 2013 15: 54
      +1
      Quote: rrrd
      need to keep your ear sharp!

      Only the ear needs to be kept exhilaration, This is somehow more correct, from the point of view of the Russian language.
  3. T-100
    T-100 29 October 2013 07: 19
    +8
    What did the Russian reconnaissance aircraft on the Turkish border?

    simple answer - flew))))
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 29 October 2013 07: 26
      +5
      Quote: T-100
      simple answer - flew

      What did the Russian reconnaissance aircraft on the Turkish border?

      ..... and scouted?
      Yes nuuuu ........... just ruffled increased the level of combat readiness for the Ibrahim.
      1. MilaPhone
        MilaPhone 29 October 2013 07: 41
        30
        This is a new type of Russian tourism. All inclusive.
        1. Ptah
          Ptah 29 October 2013 07: 57
          11
          Quote: Milafon
          All inclusive.

          Of course EVERYTHING WAS INCLUDED. In terms of equipment. Otherwise, why would there be a dangle.
          Now Ibrahim Karakhul also knows this. If you survive this, then everything will be fine!
          1. Dmitry 2246
            Dmitry 2246 29 October 2013 10: 11
            +7
            Our plane "outlined" a new sphere of influence for Russia after the elections in Georgia.
        2. Grandson of Veteran
          Grandson of Veteran 29 October 2013 17: 42
          +5
          "This is a new type of Russian tourism. All inclusive."
          Soon, cruises on the BDK, underwater safaris on the nuclear submarine, etc. will be added. laughing
  4. vietnam7
    vietnam7 29 October 2013 07: 20
    11
    Isn't a radio-electronic reconnaissance aircraft a combat aircraft? And why should he enter the space of another country, do aerial photography, or what? They have flown and will continue to fly, both with us and with them, whoever is warned is armed. The article is written in the style "for a democratic public", they will read it, they will be indignant, but they will not go into details.
  5. Veter
    Veter 29 October 2013 07: 22
    17
    Ibrahim Karagul, this is the normal work of military aviation! And then we are used to the fact that only charters fly up to the Turkish borders. Get used to it !!!
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 29 October 2013 12: 44
      +7
      Quote: Veter
      Ibrahim Karagul, this is the normal work of military aviation! And then we are used to the fact that only charters fly up to the Turkish borders. Get used to it !!!


      The devil smoked Wakulu from the drunken eyes.
    2. bif
      bif 30 October 2013 02: 18
      0
      Now Turkey has been involved in training to increase the tone of the external sphincter ... Scandinavians and Japanese can share their impressions and unforgettable feelings with you, because For some time now they have been going through an enhanced program.
  6. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 29 October 2013 07: 23
    +8
    hi "We really don't see any logical reason for Russia to take such a worrying action. We are just showing interest." - So, after all, Russia is showing interest(only),your interest and nothing more! wink
  7. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 29 October 2013 07: 32
    +7
    Before the Olympics, it scans the border areas .. And that's it.
  8. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 29 October 2013 07: 33
    13
    Now the Japanese are "nervous", now the Swedes, and now the Turks. So what happened? The plane did not enter airspace. Ordinary private flight. Russia is gradually "recovering" and the Armed Forces begin to function normally as the Armed Forces in other countries.
  9. Edward72
    Edward72 29 October 2013 07: 34
    +7
    In Russia, money for kerosene appeared and began to fly. So get used to it.
  10. NC1982
    NC1982 29 October 2013 07: 35
    +9
    An unaccompanied airplane, respectively, without armament, well, it flew by, so what? Collecting information ... Satellites also spy, so what? Nobody sends antisatellites to intercept!
    1. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. 29 October 2013 20: 49
      +1
      They just can’t.
  11. ImPerts
    ImPerts 29 October 2013 07: 36
    +7
    Why, why ... FAC flew to the cottage, men (crew) invited to barbecue, at the same time the vehicle boasted drinks
  12. makarov
    makarov 29 October 2013 07: 37
    12
    "There are no problems in the relations between Turkey and Russia in the military sphere. Bilateral relations in the economic sphere are the best in history today. ..... From the point of view of both countries, Turkish-Russian relations look like a model, a model ..."

    This is called "pissing in the eyes, and says" God's dew ".
    Turkey ranks number 2 after the Saudis, in a desire to spoil Russia more in its Syrian interests (and not only). The society understands that the East is a delicate matter, but it is “foul-mongering” (as described in the article), demonstrating to the world its own peacefulness towards everyone and everything, this is already a category of “super-cynicism”, but in the common people “finished”.
  13. Renat
    Renat 29 October 2013 07: 39
    +4
    What did he do? He did his work.
    1. alexng
      alexng 29 October 2013 07: 59
      +3
      What did you do..? Paved new trade routes.
      1. Analyst
        Analyst 29 October 2013 10: 49
        +5
        Quote: alexneg
        What did you do..? Paved new trade routes.

        No.
        It is a methyl territory. laughing
        1. Shturmovik
          Shturmovik 12 November 2013 23: 15
          0
          Super!!!! Maybe Tu -160 to send that would not just tag, but stake out!
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 29 October 2013 17: 09
      +2
      Quote: Renat
      What did he do? He did his work.

      but imagine a Turkish plane would fly near the borders of Russia ... oh yeah right now how many warlike statements would it be ... why wouldn’t it be destroyed .. where did you see the air defense ..... would remember Serdyukov and Vasilyeva .... wassat
  14. MilaPhone
    MilaPhone 29 October 2013 07: 45
    21
    What did the Russian reconnaissance aircraft on the Turkish border? ("Yeni Safak", Turkey)

    And what on figs under our plane did the Turkish border?
    1. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 29 October 2013 12: 38
      +2
      Quote: Milafon
      MilaPhone

      She was there wink
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 29 October 2013 16: 45
        +1
        Quote: ayyildiz
        She was there

        Who allowed to scatter her there? Have you asked Mishiko? Or is Mishiko not a man now?
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 29 October 2013 17: 10
      +1
      Quote: Milafon
      And what on figs under our plane did the Turkish border?

      tidied up several meters of Mount Ararat ... wassat
  15. morpogr
    morpogr 29 October 2013 07: 48
    +5
    We just keep our finger on the pulse to be prepared for the unexpected. Our tradition is that the enemy does not sleep.
  16. Stinger
    Stinger 29 October 2013 07: 53
    +7
    They apparently believe that the reconnaissance planes are doing so that they sit at the airfields. They forced the "Patriots" and think that Russia will sit and wait for dear Turkey to forcibly land and inspect our planes flying to Syria.
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 29 October 2013 16: 48
      0
      It seems that airplanes no longer send parcels to the Syrians. It will be more reliable by sea.
  17. andr1966a
    andr1966a 29 October 2013 07: 55
    +5
    We’ve been flying for a long time, and all sorts of Ibrahim will not get used to it at all. They are afraid. And if they are afraid, then they respect.
  18. ZU-23
    ZU-23 29 October 2013 07: 56
    +5
    Fly guys as much as you want and wherever you want, again the Turks ponte pound, it would be better if you worried that the Islamists have too much.
  19. individual
    individual 29 October 2013 08: 00
    17
    So what's the problem?
    The author indicates that the Russian IL-20 flew in international airspace, which means that it did not violate anything anywhere.
    Why all the boron cheese?
    And if someone's nerves are worn out, there is only one recipe: "it is necessary to be treated."
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 29 October 2013 08: 11
      +4
      Quote: individ
      Why all the boron cheese?

      So they already hoped that they would be taken by courier an agreement on entry into the vehicle. And then such a bummer! He flew, waved his wings and flew away! It's a shame! laughing
  20. Alikovo
    Alikovo 29 October 2013 08: 06
    +2
    how would they shout if the Tu-95 flew there.
    1. Civil
      Civil 29 October 2013 08: 19
      +6
      Quote: Alikovo
      how would they shout if the Tu-95 flew there.

      The Tu-95 in the invigorating Japanese holds :-)
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 29 October 2013 09: 17
        +7
        Quote: Civil
        Tu-95 in invigorating Japanese holds

        And not only...
        How much was the howl from the USA when flights over the Arctic resumed,
        the British Air Force has a favorite pastime today - to fly up to the Tu-95, going over the Atlantic, and "wave its wings in greeting".
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 29 October 2013 17: 13
          +1
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          flap your wings "welcome".

          and what else do the British do ... knock down chtoli ..... so before shooting down there are many options for driving a plane off the border .... shooting down is an extreme case .... here the USSR shot down a couple of times ... how many problems ..... and the scouts fly ... yes and they fly ... all the same, they didn’t fly for a decade ... now on old, worn-out devices they are regaining their professional qualities and shooting down the Carcass or this antediluvian IL is not a problem for the fighter ... is that ...............
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 29 October 2013 19: 45
            +4
            Quote: smersh70
            now on old, worn-out devices they are restoring their professional qualities again and shooting down the Carcass or this antediluvian IL is not a problem for a fighter ... there is something ...............

            Who argues ...
            Today, the flyers of KarAsin are unmeasured - fly, I don’t want to. And it only pleases.
          2. Our
            Our 13 December 2013 18: 21
            +1
            no This is a super modern aircraft.))))
  21. Simon
    Simon 29 October 2013 08: 10
    +2
    A. What did they want? We also want to study our neighbors and not only potential opponents. laughing
  22. bronik
    bronik 29 October 2013 08: 13
    +7
    Call it a planned training flight. I like that our aircraft began to fly, the last tourist flight to Venezuela shows a lot of things.
  23. Bort radist
    Bort radist 29 October 2013 08: 20
    +6
    Why is it so threatening in approaching the border?
    He is a SCOUT! He must, threateningly approach, provoke, and then scan and analyze the information received. Just like children.
    1. ramzes1776
      ramzes1776 29 October 2013 14: 43
      +4
      Under this article, you might think that only our scouts will fly. I won’t believe that the Turks, for their part, do not reconnoiter our territory, as well as their nearby neighbors, and not only in the airspace !!!
  24. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 29 October 2013 08: 22
    +5
    I believe that we have the right to expect a statement from Russia that would reassure public opinion on this issue. - Do not be afraid, Turks. A soldier will not offend a child! laughing
  25. kafa
    kafa 29 October 2013 08: 23
    +4
    you need to be nervous when TU, SU and a moment on combat courses and IL it is necessary to rejoice smile You just checked do not misbehave inadvertently
  26. major071
    major071 29 October 2013 08: 30
    +6
    Someone just wanted to take a look at the resort for their future vacation, so to speak from the air to consider the entire infrastructure of the hotels. And they flew on what was the most accessible. But because of this, do not raise bombers into the air. After that, the Turks would wash their pants for a long time.
    1. igor36
      igor36 29 October 2013 11: 32
      +3
      Quote: major071
      so to speak from the air to consider the entire infrastructure of hotels

      At the same time, we checked where WI-FI is free.
  27. Bort radist
    Bort radist 29 October 2013 08: 32
    +9
    Oct 28 - RIA Novosti. Two Russian strategic missile carriers Tu-160, raised from an air base near Engels, flew along the southwestern coast of North America and landed in Venezuela, the press service and information department of the Russian Defense Ministry said on Monday.

    "The missile carriers flew over the waters of the Caribbean Sea and the eastern Pacific Ocean, along the southwestern coast of the North American continent and landed in the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela at the Maiketia airfield," the statement said.

    In addition, two Tu-95MS strategic bombers provided radio communications in remote areas between control centers involved in the mission.

    According to the Ministry of Defense, the planes flew over 10 thousand kilometers. The flight duration was about 13 hours. During the flight over the territory of Norway, the missile carriers were accompanied by two F-16 fighters taken from the Bodø airbase.

    The Office notes that all flights of the aircraft of the Air Force of the Russian Federation were and are being carried out in strict accordance with the International Rules for the Use of Airspace.

    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/world/20131028/973216753.html#ixzz2j5A9kdj8
    And the states and Norway are silent. They analyze and are silent, get used and Turkey will get used, and Japan .....
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 29 October 2013 09: 18
      +6
      Quote: Bort Radist
      And the states and Norway are silent. They analyze and are silent, get used and Turkey will get used, and Japan .....

      Where will they go? laughing
  28. cccr51
    cccr51 29 October 2013 09: 01
    +3
    And in general, why write stupid articles (such as where I took it, where I took it - I BOUGHT!)
  29. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 29 October 2013 09: 05
    +2
    Russian equivalent of AWACS aircraft systems

    The Russian equivalent is the A-50.
    That the Turks that the Azerbaijanis love to pound their heels in the chest, what they are peaceful, and they all do not like and offend. Meanwhile, both of them regularly arrange natural genocide of neighbors. So there, not only intelligence should fly just in case.
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 29 October 2013 17: 15
      +2
      Quote: chunga-changa
      That the Turks that the Azerbaijanis love to pound their heels in the chest, what they are peaceful, and they all do not like and offend.

      and what isn’t it wassat we don’t attack anything ...... we don’t send troops ... we don’t occupy foreign territories .. we only trade ... and make money .... laughing 21 century dear .. money must be done ..........
      1. tomas.09
        tomas.09 29 October 2013 19: 33
        +2
        Didn’t Azerbaijanis try to make money at home?
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 30 October 2013 00: 50
          +1
          Quote: tomas.09
          Didn’t Azerbaijanis try to make money at home?


          here we have been doing for a long time and YOU also taught wassat
      2. poquello
        poquello 30 October 2013 00: 28
        +2
        Quote: smersh70
        ]
        21 century dear .. money must be done ..........

        Exactly. It is time to resolve all issues in peaceful ways.
      3. CHILD
        CHILD 13 November 2013 12: 25
        0
        ... the Turks have problems))))) from the time of Ataturk, the military monitored the state to remain secular ... as soon as the military had doubts about this, a coup and subsequent restoration of democracy ..... took place in the flesh before correspondence of the constitution)))))) in my opinion, they rolled this number three times ..... but the last time they passed the military to someone .... and apparently they decided they had better chance not to blow ... most likely the Islamization of the state -You will not wait long .... and there it will go ... eat .... there are not satisfied, where without them)))) Kurds will probably try to budge ...
  30. zollstab
    zollstab 29 October 2013 09: 07
    +1
    Quote: vlad.svargin
    Now the Japanese are "nervous", now the Swedes, and now the Turks. So what happened? The plane did not enter airspace. Ordinary private flight. Russia is gradually "recovering" and the Armed Forces begin to function normally as the Armed Forces in other countries.

    A coupon for an appointment with a neuropathologist, or maybe a pathologist, will help laughing
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  32. bddrus
    bddrus 29 October 2013 09: 14
    0
    "What did you do?" - "If we tell you, then we have to kill you!" - Uh! laughing
  33. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 29 October 2013 09: 33
    +3
    Quote: "Why does a Russian-owned electronic reconnaissance aircraft fly around Turkish borders?"
    Russian plane flew in internationally airspace without violating the airspace of Turkey. Turkey, as a member of NATO, is a potential adversary of Russia. Therefore, our country has every right to take measures of protection against a potential enemy. Therefore, the unrest of the Turkish side is incomprehensible.
    1. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 29 October 2013 12: 42
      +1
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      Therefore, the unrest of the Turkish side is incomprehensible.

      Was Turkey worried?
  34. Alex toll
    Alex toll 29 October 2013 09: 57
    +2
    Yes, most likely the new equipment was tested - ours are doing a lot of things now in the defense industry ....... There is an article on this site about our ships of the Cold War without weapons and, in fact, launches, but there is equipment that can read what is being done on ship, and here at once everything connected with Air began to move, one hundred percent revived and now we know where, what is standing and exudes the "background" and where are hostile military objects.
  35. Kolyanych
    Kolyanych 29 October 2013 10: 07
    +3
    And it seemed to me that the Turkish journalist was trying to tell Russian officials what the Turkish public wanted to hear if they suddenly asked the same Lavrov about this Il-20 flight along the Turkish border. Say, if the answer is that "... Russia does not spy on its partner Turkey, but only takes preventive measures against NATO facilities on Turkish territory .."
    1. Gari
      29 October 2013 11: 04
      +1
      Quote: Kolyanich
      "... Russia does not spy on its partner Turkey, but only takes preventive measures against NATO facilities on Turkish territory .."

      Has the Russian aircraft tapped Turkey or the US and NATO military bases located in Turkey, on the Black Sea coast?
      Or maybe all the same this is the main thing in the article.
  36. 222222
    222222 29 October 2013 10: 09
    +3
    Quote: "Why is a Russian-owned electronic reconnaissance aircraft flying around the Turkish border?"

    The usual planned flight of an orthbr of a district subordination. It has nothing to do with Avax-type systems. When flying, he strictly abides by international rules and DOES NOT violate the borders of other states.
    On October 9, 2013, a similar Eastern Military District flew along the coast of Japan.
    http://pro-samolet.ru/blog-pro-samolet/917-japanese-fighter-russia
    http://www.military-informant.com/index.php/airforce/3913-1.html
    April 20, 2013 IL-20 Western Military District along the Swedish border
    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/32658/
    A plane of this type was used during the counter-terrorist operation in Chechnya.
    http://referat.niv.ru/referat/005/00500227-8.htm

    Airplanes began to fly, which means their modernization has passed, because they release 70s of the last century ..
    Russia is focusing !!!
  37. washi
    washi 29 October 2013 10: 12
    +4
    And why about our tourists (polls and special forces militias) there are no questions?
    1. bddrus
      bddrus 29 October 2013 18: 24
      0
      it's too obvious to believe!))
  38. avg
    avg 29 October 2013 10: 20
    +3
    Was the reflex, defense, and susceptibility of Turkey tested?

    Yes, the crew chose a hotel before vacation yes
  39. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 29 October 2013 10: 27
    +2
    Forgive me for the absurdity, but “What was the Russian reconnaissance aircraft doing on the Russian-Turkish border?” The reconnaissance stump is clear. What's wrong with that?
  40. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 29 October 2013 10: 32
    +3
    <<< We really do not see any logical reason for Russia to take such a worrying action. We're just showing interest. >>>
    No need to bubble! If Turkey is so worried about the simple passage of a Russian plane that did not violate anything, then what should Russia have done when Turkey joined NATO and allowed the creation of American bases on its territory? Fight in hysterics, throw down thunder and lightning? If the American bases continue to stay in Turkey with clearly "friendly" intentions towards Russia, then one should not be surprised at such flights of Russian aircraft! Russia has every right to do so and uses it! So the "root of evil" is in Turkey, not in Russia!
  41. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 29 October 2013 10: 37
    +1
    I believe that we have the right to expect a statement from Russia that would reassure public opinion on this issue.

    But how many Americans are reporting on their actions? And the Turks themselves about their own in relation to Syria. He flew, so it was necessary.
  42. Earnest
    Earnest 29 October 2013 10: 37
    +2
    And who cares about the flights of our aviation? There was no violation? Did not have! And then phrases like "intercepted a military aircraft belonging to Russia in the region of the province of Ordu" cause a desire to test the ability to intercept R36MU, R36M2, or at least UR100UTTH. So there is nothing to bark at the stars in the sky
  43. uizik
    uizik 29 October 2013 10: 42
    +2
    In Soviet times, the usual practice of reconnaissance aircraft along the border. DIRECTORY worked clearly!
  44. askort154
    askort154 29 October 2013 11: 02
    +3
    Article title. What was the Russian spy plane doing on the Turkish border? ("Yeni Safak", Turkey)

    What did he do? (Turks!) He did what this aircraft was created for.
  45. Mhpv
    Mhpv 29 October 2013 11: 05
    +2
    As the Americans say there, "We do not intend to discuss our actions with anyone! And so here it is the same thing, the border has not been violated, and if it is scary then these are your problems.
  46. Deniska
    Deniska 29 October 2013 11: 41
    +1
    Blah blah blah ... Where we want there and fly !!! NATO taught us !!!
  47. Irtysh
    Irtysh 29 October 2013 11: 44
    +3
    Everything new is well forgotten old. In the USSR, for example, MIG-25 regularly flew from Zaporozhye (Wet) to provoke and to open the NATO air defense systems in Turkey and Greece. However, as they are to us. The usual routine that was in the order of things.

    And then, you see, they got alarmed.
  48. es.d
    es.d 29 October 2013 13: 11
    +1
    Keep the statement: "... the flight of the Russian reconnaissance aircraft was undertaken in the framework of the fight against international terrorism and is in no way aimed at revising good-neighborly Russian-Turkish relations ..." lol
    If this "fish" does not suit you, let them rewrite any American ...
  49. Corsair
    Corsair 29 October 2013 13: 44
    +1
    Quote from the article:
    It can be called the Russian equivalent of AWACS aircraft systems available in the United States and some NATO countries. IL-20 and IL-20 Coot - electronic reconnaissance aircraft, designed by NATO.


    What is it like?
    1. REZMovec
      REZMovec 30 October 2013 01: 08
      +1
      IL-20 is similar to amerovsky "Orion"
  50. Hort
    Hort 29 October 2013 14: 08
    +2
    curious, is this how an airplane can approach "threateningly"? Like a viciously tilting nose and fiercely buzzing engines? =))