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In the Volgograd bus a suicide bomber exploded

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In the Volgograd bus a suicide bomber exploded

A terrorist act in Volgograd was allegedly committed by a suicide bomber who recently converted to Islam. This opinion was expressed in the investigative department of the Investigative Committee of Russia. It is known that the documents of this woman were found not far from the site of the explosion.


“She recently converted to Islam and was the wife of one of the leaders of the gangs,” Interfax was told in the TFR in the region.

According to the latest information, among the victims of the explosion in a bus in Volgograd there is one child. As specified by ITAR-TASS in the Center for Disaster Medicine of the region, his condition is assessed as moderate severity. A baby aged 1 year and 8 months, received a concussion.

In total, the explosion killed 5 people, 27 suffered. The condition of the 19 injured is assessed as mild and moderate in severity, eight people are in intensive care. According to the Ministry of Health of Russia, the majority of victims of mine explosive injuries. Injuries caused by interior trim and glazing bus. The injured doctors are sent to 15 and 25 city hospitals in Volgograd. There were about 40 people on the bus at the time of the explosion.

Information about the explosion in the bus brought to the governor of the Volgograd region Sergey Bozhenov. An operational headquarters has been established in the region, which will be engaged in providing all the necessary assistance to the victims.

In the main department of the Emergencies Ministry of Russia in the Volgograd region there is a “hot line”, which allows you to clarify all the information about the victims and those killed during the terrorist attack. Her phone: 8-846-338-9656.

EMERCOM of Russia sends to Volgograd for evacuation for treatment in Moscow of victims of an explosion in a bus. As the ministry spokesman Irina Rossius told reporters, in the near future an IL-76 aircraft equipped with five medical modules will fly from the Moscow Ramenskoye airfield to Volgograd. The evacuation of the victims will involve a medical team of the All-Russian Center for Disaster Medicine “Protection”, doctors of the “Centrospas” Detachment of the Emergencies Ministry of Russia and the Emergency Operations Task Force and psychologists.

The terrorist attack in Volgograd was committed on October 21. The explosive device worked in the passenger bus "LIAZ" route number XXUMX about 29 hours 14 minutes, near the stop "Lesobaza". As a result of the attack, 5 people died, more than 5 were injured.


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  1. Taoist
    Taoist 21 October 2013 17: 57
    +1
    Especially "touched" the inscription "here could be your advertisement." A sign of the times ... The city stands. Our valiant law enforcement officers have slowed down and are checking public transport ... ICD, then we will be quiet - until the next emergency.
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        1. SAG
          SAG 21 October 2013 18: 18
          111
          There are no objective prerequisites for a terrorist attack in Volgograd. The purpose of this action I consider the aggravation of ethnic hatred against the background of riots in Biryulev. All these are links of one chain. The ultimate goal is to foment a civil war in Russia. The trademark Insolent-Saxon emphasis is that they sleep and see Russia in chaos in order to write off their debts. To burn these nonhumans in hell along with Wahhabis and idiots suicide bombers am
          IMHO
          1. Ivan_Ivanov
            Ivan_Ivanov 21 October 2013 18: 23
            54
            There are no objective prerequisites for a terrorist attack in Volgograd. The purpose of this action I consider the aggravation of ethnic hatred against the background of riots in Biryulev. All these are links of one chain. The ultimate goal is to foment a civil war in Russia. The trademark Insolent-Saxon emphasis is that they sleep and see Russia in chaos in order to write off their debts. To burn these nonhumans in hell along with Wahhabis and idiots suicide bombers

            Now thousands, tens of thousands of posts, hundreds and thousands of media will set us on Caucasians and immigrants from Central Asia, fomenting conflict. Therefore, your post must be multiplied and repeated with even more copies.

            Tarrorists are just tools. Live bombs. They are produced, and other hands are pressed on the trigger in another place.

            Russia creates the Customs Union - in response, the train is downhill.

            Russia does not surrender Syria - in response to Biryulyovo.

            Russia pursues an independent policy - in response to the terrorist attacks.

            They can’t attack Russia themselves. Provoke an internal Russian conflict.
            1. hrych
              hrych 21 October 2013 19: 08
              27
              And I thought that Biryulyovo was due to the murder of a Russian guy, and you were for Syria. Caucasians without terrorist attacks and Saudis, and their ugly bestial behavior deserved a karachun. TS - another rubbish at the expense of the Russian people, where the borders will be open for rabble and drugs. The USSR had at least ideology, and what kind of Eurasianism do they have ideology? Economic, why the heck is it needed. Here in Ukraine, a new Mazepa drew. It is necessary to create a national state and more weapons, everything else is heresy.
              1. Onyx
                Onyx 21 October 2013 19: 33
                -1
                Quote: hrych
                It is necessary to create a national state and more weapons, everything else is heresy.

                It is necessary to plant you and you of similar years for ... twenty for separatism, for starters.
                1. randomizer
                  randomizer 22 October 2013 01: 37
                  21
                  Where is separatism? In your liberal head? So go to Chechnya - this is Russia. At least try to open a kiosk with pies. And when you move away from the consequences (if you stay alive), then broadcast about separatism. Something tells you that your imagination will radically change.
                2. queen
                  queen 22 October 2013 08: 18
                  0
                  Quote: Onyx
                  It is necessary to plant you and you of similar years for ... twenty for separatism, for starters

                  Resney
                  1. d1m1drol
                    d1m1drol 22 October 2013 09: 17
                    +1
                    Comrade General-Colonel..rSk-noble cause! hi ..forgive me winked
                3. Impulsiver
                  Impulsiver 22 October 2013 08: 54
                  +3
                  Well, let's continue to pump billions into this national state, and let us continue to blow up suicide bombers for our money. And we will take turns cheeks, paying the lives of specific people ... But we will be proud and cry from tenderness - oh, what a strong multinational state we have.
              2. Danafxnumx
                Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 19: 38
                -18 qualifying.
                yeah, the main thing is that you get a weapon and a funnel, black ...

                commissars divorced ...
                1. Onyx
                  Onyx 21 October 2013 20: 27
                  -3
                  Quote: DanaF1
                  yeah, the main thing is that you get a weapon and a funnel, black ...

                  commissars divorced ...

                  Why do I need all this? There is someone to do without me
                  1. Danafxnumx
                    Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 20: 41
                    -7
                    I actually answered snarling ...
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                    2. Onyx
                      Onyx 21 October 2013 21: 00
                      +1
                      Quote: DanaF1
                      I actually answered snarling ...

                      Well then, I'm sorry
                2. d1m1drol
                  d1m1drol 22 October 2013 09: 20
                  +4
                  Or maybe it came ... time for the black funnels? Maybe it's time ...
              3. Viking
                Viking 21 October 2013 21: 30
                17
                Quote: hrych
                It is necessary to create a national state and more weapons, everything else is heresy.

                Within what limits? Buryats, Evenks, Tatars, Mordvinians, Karelians, etc. will you not take it into the "nation state" that is being created?
                1. Semen Semyonitch
                  Semen Semyonitch 21 October 2013 22: 07
                  14
                  Quote: Viking
                  Quote: hrych
                  It is necessary to create a national state and more weapons, everything else is heresy.

                  Within what limits? Buryats, Evenks, Tatars, Mordvinians, Karelians, etc. will you not take it into the "nation state" that is being created?


                  By the way, do they create any problems? Did not notice...
                  1. yurii p
                    yurii p 22 October 2013 09: 25
                    +6
                    and who creates problems, what nation? name, organizations and religion, countries do not create problems, I hope you know this and it’s incorrect to blame the nation for terrorism, for your information the Russian Sokolov, a resident of the Moscow Region, is suspected of organizing the attack.
                    1. Semen Semyonitch
                      Semen Semyonitch 22 October 2013 19: 58
                      0
                      Quote: yurii p
                      and who creates problems, what nation? name, organizations and religion, countries do not create problems, I hope you know this and it’s incorrect to blame the nation for terrorism, for your information the Russian Sokolov, a resident of the Moscow Region, is suspected of organizing the attack.

                      Are nations not creating problems? How so? Didn't the German nation create? The same Tatar-Mongols in their time “walked” so far that we still cannot rake them. And there were no problems with Chechnya either? That is, these are not nations?
                2. hrych
                  hrych 21 October 2013 22: 21
                  23
                  More than 80% of Russians in Russia, Tatars second place - 3,9%, what problems or again 80% should obey the national leaders? To begin with, within the Russian Federation, with the immediate abolition of national entities.
                  1. Semen Semyonitch
                    Semen Semyonitch 21 October 2013 22: 52
                    +8
                    Quote: hrych
                    More than 80% of Russians in Russia, Tatars second place - 3,9%, what problems or again 80% should obey the national leaders? To begin with, within the Russian Federation, with the immediate abolition of national entities.

                    Ah, now you are talking about. Unfortunately, at one time they were given as much “freedom” as they could carry away. I have already spoken about this ... The vertical is weak ... And she has no time ...
                  2. shpuntik
                    shpuntik 22 October 2013 03: 00
                    0
                    grunt (2) Yesterday, 22:21 p.m. ↑
                    More than 80% of Russians in Russia, Tatars second place - 3,9%, what problems or again 80% should obey the national leaders?

                    So yes, most of us agree. And what unites us?
                    This priest is looking at the root, in my opinion, isn’t it?

                  3. yurii p
                    yurii p 22 October 2013 09: 51
                    0
                    that is, concentration camps instead of nat formations? Hitler would envy your ambitions.
                3. Normal
                  Normal 21 October 2013 23: 01
                  +3
                  Quote: Viking
                  To what extent?

                  One must be realistic. To the extent that we, in a place with friendly nations, we can keep.
              4. randomizer
                randomizer 22 October 2013 01: 30
                +5
                +100500! The nation-state within the borders of the Russian Empire is a sample of the beginning of the 20th century! That's the national idea)
              5. yurii p
                yurii p 22 October 2013 10: 00
                0
                read it will be useful to you ...... http: //www.ng.ru/news/447079.html
            2. vvvvv
              vvvvv 21 October 2013 19: 12
              17
              And who supported and financed the Chechen war, who did the same in 2008 in Georgia to attack Ossetia ?! All these incitements do not stop. What can I say-all Russian social. the networks are clogged with various incitements and anti-Russian rhetoric. The goals are simple - to remove the nationally oriented authorities and parts of the elites in Russia, and then to set up puppet ones, as has already been done practically throughout the world. Although, in this case, the initiatives could come from somewhere like the Saudis, but certainly with a CIA officer whispering in his ear from behind.
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                1. vvvvv
                  vvvvv 21 October 2013 20: 58
                  +5
                  Quote: Yarosvet
                  Well, and who - mattress, naglia, zhuidoviya - who? What evidence is there (not speculation)?

                  You ask such nonsense that there are no words ...
                  It is well known who prepared the Georgian invasion, and here you are pretending to be ignorant ... It is very strange ... I will answer - those whose jeeps with special equipment were seized by the Chechen "Vostok" were pushing and preparing an attack on Georgia.
                  But the article about the "insidiousness of the State Department" - certainly cooked up in one of the NGOs ... All countries have a large share of these problems. And much bigger problems.
                  Patriots do not stir up wars and revolutions like you, but work just like Putin and Rogozin for the good of the country (albeit for their personal too), and go to parties, public life, anywhere else to really change the situation, including their own forces. And only provocateurs need destabilization in Russia, fomenting war with the Muslim world.
                  Total: I personally really know a lot of facts and results of work for the benefit of Russia Putin and anyone else except you personally. I see this in real life. But I don’t know anything about your merits for the good of Russia. In your rhetoric, you must be able to boast of outstanding accomplishments. Or how?!
                  And who do you think of famous people capable of bringing Russia good?
                  Name at least one surname.
                  Although I understand the problems you have indicated, my understanding of the essence and possible solutions is much more complicated than yours. Realistic understanding. And you, with your approach, either will not change anything, or you will "break the wood" - you will make "good intentions" a hundred times worse! Practical and real-world solutions and understanding are important, not useless or dangerous chatter. It is necessary to influence, crush, change, create, and not induce confusion, inflame, destroy, etc. Here you can see where the constructive approach is, and where the destructive one.
                  And pissing in the elevator is not Putin, but a simple Russian guy. Maybe even a patriot, just got drunk on beer ... And the Russians themselves do or don’t do everything. No one can hold every fool for hu so that he does not piss where he shouldn't.
                  1. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 21 October 2013 22: 18
                    0
                    Quote: vvvvv
                    It is well known who was preparing the Georgian invasion, and here you are pretending to be ignorant
                    It is well known that Stalin was a robber, although he never robbed anyone.
                    It is well known that Rothschild said his sacramental phrase, although he never said it.
                    It is well known that Putin tried to nationalize the Central Bank, and in 2004 repealed the PSA law, although there was neither one nor the other.
                    What else is well known? laughing

                    Very strange ... I will answer - those whose jeeps with special equipment were captured by the Chechen "Vostok" were pushing and preparing the attack on Georgia.
                    Proof of?

                    All countries have a greater share of these problems. And where big problems
                    In all countries of the 3rd world it is possible, but not in countries where the provision on the social state is written in the Constitution.

                    work like the same Putin and Rogozin
                    Are they like Rogozin standing on the orange Maidan next to Yushchenko and violating the provisions of the Constitution like Putin?

                    Total: I personally really know a lot of facts and results of work for the benefit of Putin's Russia
                    The third time empty words - where are the examples?

                    In your rhetoric, you should be able to boast of outstanding accomplishments. Or how?!
                    I do not yet determine the main directions of policy in the Russian Federation.

                    Name at least one surname
                    Boldyrev, Katasonov, Mukhin - anyone whose actions will be consistent with the provisions of the Constitution.

                    make "good intentions" a hundred times worse!
                    Well, of course - only Vova can do better, just as long as he doesn’t succeed, the State Department interferes laughing

                    Practical and real decisions and understanding are important, not useless or dangerous chatter
                    You tell Putin this
                    1. vvvvv
                      vvvvv 22 October 2013 10: 01
                      -5
                      A lot of comments and the site slows down. :( It is actually impossible to write ...
                      I will answer a little to debunk your skepticism, although this is rather a deliberate, biased denial of facts. On the tuba there is a judgment about "East" and Tskhinval. Where is the bearded man - the commander of the "Vostok" reports that he carried out the order of the supreme commander in chief ...
                      "Vova" does, and many people interfere - from liberals and corrupt officials to ordinary people who have heard Western propaganda against Putin.
                      In real life, I know many examples of the fight against corruption, and you either deliberately lie, or live somewhere on the moon.
                      I am not against reasonable actions of patriots and I see them - the same KPRF and many others - these are real deeds and influence. And many "patriots" are not yet known for what purposes they work ...
                  2. randomizer
                    randomizer 22 October 2013 01: 49
                    13
                    "<And it’s not Putin who pisses in the elevator, but a simple Russian guy. Maybe even a patriot, he just got drunk on beer ... And the Russians themselves do or don’t do all of the above. Nobody can hold every fool for hu.y so that he didn't piss where he shouldn't.> "So who is pissing - a Russian or a Russian? Russians are 200 nationalities, and Russians are more than 80 percent of them. This is actually an important question. After Volkov, for example, a Russian guy, was killed by a Russian. Who are they, these Russians? They ride, they shmish from their weddings into the air, kill people. And as he pissed in the elevator - so the Russian guy got drunk just ... It's a cliché, change the training manual.
                    1. 31231
                      31231 22 October 2013 02: 20
                      0
                      Dear, two of my exes were pissing in a public place drunk (in other words, on the street). Then what ?! How many clowns of supposedly Russian bastards and shit in public places ?! What are you going to portray as a saint ?! The Russians on the site have not just pumped and fought in my living carriage, so what ?! Monitor the train "Urengoy-Moscow" on this topic.
                    2. vvvvv
                      vvvvv 22 October 2013 10: 31
                      +1
                      Actually, I tend to the same thing that people of the Caucasian type are not necessarily Russian by blood. Russians are a very collective name, since in the passports of other real nations, "Russian" can be written ... Therefore, it is difficult and not necessary to find out who was really killed or a murderer according to the passport and the nation, who shit at the entrance, and the demand should be precisely for a specific offense or crime and regardless of nation. Personally, at my entrance, the last time was my friend who came to me to declare his "love" and friendship in shit buhoy. And when he left he pissed, which I later discovered. And we talked about this with him. He is Russian by passport. So what?! I have seen similar cases many times when they shit where they shouldn't, and these were people of the Caucasian type. And of course there were Russians among those or who were visually indistinguishable. But, I have never seen Uzbeks, Armenians or Caucasians crap like that ... By the way ...
                  3. pahom54
                    pahom54 22 October 2013 09: 41
                    0
                    Well done, vvv !!! With two hands - FOR !!!
                2. Misantrop
                  Misantrop 22 October 2013 01: 47
                  +8
                  Quote: Yarosvet
                  Well, and who - mattress, naglia, zhuidoviya - who? What evidence is there (not speculation)?
                  At the first Chechen, Berezovsky got a lot of fun. Where did he rush, as soon as the chair swung under him, who created all the conditions for a comfortable stay for him? By the way, if anyone is not interested in Britain, then they don’t care how much money he has, they will not accept, and even rob. But where did the ideological inspirer of Chechen separatism settle, not in the same place? Or is this all speculation too?
                  1. vvvvv
                    vvvvv 22 October 2013 10: 34
                    0
                    Yes, Berezovsky was a "solver" of issues with the militants. There is no doubt that this is not "just like that" ... I am sure that the blood of many dead Russians and Russians is on his conscience. I don’t even know how to write, so as not to pounce and find fault with the words. :)
              2. New Russia
                New Russia 21 October 2013 19: 48
                13
                quote vvvvv:
                “What can I say - all Russian social networks are crammed with various incitements and anti-Russian rhetoric. The goals are simple - to remove nationally oriented authorities and parts of the elites in Russia.” What nationally oriented parts of the elites? The names of the patriots in power, please.

                quote from Ivan_Ivanov:
                "Now thousands, tens of thousands of posts, hundreds and thousands of media outlets will incite us against Caucasians and immigrants from Central Asia, igniting the conflict." Are you kidding me?) Every day, geeks from the south kill or rape someone, among them all are bastards, the color is this, even Tolboyev turned out to be a thief in law, and without a terrorist attack, everyone hates them, how long can you repeat nonsense about a single nation with these, which does not , and about the fact that black gopniks and bandits are funded by the State Department?

                "They want to set you, us on the Caucasians." Right! Caucasians run wild all over the country, behave like pigs, but you endure and do not incite to make the West worse!) Let's be friends with Caucasians without reciprocity, at one gate)

                Everything is as always, just answer the question for yourself, when you see a bunch of monkeys loudly swearing and laughing at something in the street, the State Department makes you hate them or common sense?
                1. Russ69
                  Russ69 21 October 2013 21: 40
                  +5
                  Quote: New Russia
                  Everything is as always, just answer the question yourself, when you see on the street a bunch of loudly non-Russian swearing

                  Uh ... a bunch of drunken Russians shouting good obscenities on the street, I also do not delight ...
                  1. Normal
                    Normal 21 October 2013 23: 04
                    15
                    Quote: Russ69
                    Uh ... a bunch of drunken Russians shouting good obscenities on the street, I also do not delight ...

                    Move to the North Caucasus. There are no drunk Russians. There are many sober Caucasians. You will be delighted.
                    1. Russ69
                      Russ69 22 October 2013 01: 51
                      +5
                      And here to move. For me, that the rudeness of some Caucasians, that a drunken goby, their own Russian. Same.
                      1. Normal
                        Normal 22 October 2013 19: 35
                        +3
                        Quote: Russ69
                        For me, that the rudeness of some Caucasians, that a drunken goby, their own Russian. Same.


                        But for me not.
                        And for Yegor Sviridov - no.
                        And for Ruslan Marzhanov - no.
                        And for Yegor Shcherbakov, no.
                        For tens of thousands of Russians killed in Chechnya and expelled from the republics of Central Asia, too, the Russian drunken bull-calf and Caucasian boorish behavior are far from the same.

                        If you don’t understand your brothers.
                        If you do not recognize your sisters.
                        Dip your vodka and go to the disco, dude.

                        Gr. "Pilot"
                    2. fklj
                      fklj 22 October 2013 03: 56
                      +1
                      There are many sober Caucasians.

                      Sober but high
                2. vvvvv
                  vvvvv 21 October 2013 21: 53
                  -4
                  Quote: New Russia
                  when you see on the street a bunch of monkeys loudly swearing and laughing at something, something that makes the State Department or common sense make you hate them?


                  I’m even ready to swear that I personally don’t remember in my city that at least once I saw unsuitable myself leading Central Asians or Caucasians! No, I’m sure that such exist - bad and unpleasant, but personally I have not seen.
                  At the same time, I have personally personally communicated many times from the side of both Uzbeks, Caucasians, etc. And always these were extremely friendly people. Of course, I myself behaved like human beings with them. The mere fact that they have much less who smokes and drinks - this already creates great positive preconditions that they behave better. But I have many acquaintances, Slavs, with whom you would not like communication. Describing the images would be long and not nice. A booze, a mat, idleness, untidiness, dishonesty in something - this is the smallest evil. Who is then a monkey, let alone a laughing one ?! Laughing - it seems to be not a vice, but the vile laugh of a half-witted Natsik following normal people of another nation - there is nothing more than ape in its baseness and primitiveness.
                  As you relate to people - so do you. I happened to meet Caucasians, Greeks, Uzbeks, etc. And I’m sure, I know more precisely from experience that when they come to them somewhere, they will give you free coffee and barbecue, even though you just recently met. Such benevolence and free feeding of unfamiliar from the Slavs, I do not remember something ... So draw conclusions ...
                  1. New Russia
                    New Russia 21 October 2013 22: 18
                    +6
                    "I am even ready to even swear that I personally do not remember in my city that I have ever seen leading Central Asians or Caucasians inappropriately!" Probably there are none at all in your city. In my Maykop, even among the Adyghe youth, there were many freaks, monkey-like
                    1. vvvvv
                      vvvvv 22 October 2013 05: 55
                      0
                      I cannot dispute someone else's personal experience and talked about mine. I just would have noticed that today every youth is "not very" ... Even in the 90s, the most dashing youth, who at least meant something, had weight, was obliged to adhere to certain boundaries, "concepts", not counting individual lawless people and thugs, who were just so called among professional crime. And now young people are practically all like that ... Right ?!
                      Is it possible that you are dominated by a non-Russian population and they began to become more impudent on the national wave ?! But on the part of impudent nationalists of any nation, is it not so ?! If there is negativity in one place, this does not mean that it is necessary to foment problems throughout Russia, including where they did not exist before. Reasonable and legitimate solutions are needed.
                      1. pahom54
                        pahom54 22 October 2013 09: 57
                        +3
                        Dear VVV !!!
                        I up there rashly voted for your reasoning with both hands, but you slipped to the point of view of a missionary preacher among savages.
                        If we talk cynically, yes, it’s unpleasant when drunk Russian Slavs start a whirlwind. BUT!!! With them, issues are resolved separately, when you will reassure him, he will not call you a Russian pig ... And he will not blow up a bus with people or an apartment building in revenge ...
                        Here at the forum we are talking not about the decency of INDIVIDUALS, but about national internal problems that lead to events in Biryulyovo, etc., as well as terrorist attacks in the country with the aim of intimidating, intimidating the people who will say tomorrow: Hey, Putin, what's up? They kill us, but you don’t take measures?
                        And about the barbecue, which Asians treat for FREE ... First, only cheese in a mousetrap is free. Secondly, while treating, behind his back he sharpens a sharp dagger, be sure ...
                        So drop your sermons, because judging by your reasoning, you are a normal, competent and sensible person. Good and exhortations that is happening now in Russia, do not steer, believe me ...
                      2. vvvvv
                        vvvvv 22 October 2013 11: 21
                        0
                        Thanks for the thoughtful attitude.
                        But, where did I say about only goodness and exhortation ?! I say that you cannot solve only by enmity! I do not call for exhortation at all! But, good also needs to be done! Russians are the fairest people, because he was always strong. Only the strong can afford to be just and noble. Other small peoples are often not up to this ... When I see madness, rabid mental and thoughtless appeals, I do not see in their authors Russian - reasonable, strong, capable of being just. The strong one is able to protect his own, but he will not behave like a mad dog! Usually the weak and the insignificant are angry and aggressive. This strong will slap and whip, than force the unreasonable to order. And the weak are afraid and accumulate anger and their complexes. Even ready to kill innocent people. In Soviet times, there was a maniac - he was short and went off the rails on this basis - he hates tall. He blew up the bus and made more terrorist attacks. This is in "Criminal Russia" in one of the series.
                        You can lead a discussion. And what you write - I have no objection. Those. You can communicate and discuss something sensibly. And here I am primarily in favor of containing excessively radical sentiments, dangerous and stupid - first of all, for the Russians themselves and Russia.
                        And the positions of people like you, I’m taking the pole already only for the ability to think reasonably and the ability to speak humanly ... And if there are any disagreements, then this does not matter. Although, in all respects, I don’t see that you could have disagreements on the topic.
                3. Normal
                  Normal 21 October 2013 23: 13
                  15
                  Quote: vvvvv
                  I’m even ready to swear that I personally don’t remember in my city that at least once I saw unsuitable myself leading Central Asians or Caucasians!

                  Where is it? Heart of the World? Where is this wonderful place in which memory disappears and vision fails? Where on earth is that paradise in which Caucasians and Asians behave exclusively appropriately?
                  Quote: vvvvv
                  I have many Slavic acquaintances whom you would not like to communicate with. Describing the images would be long and not nice. A booze, a mat, idleness, untidiness, dishonesty in something - this is the smallest evil. Who is then a monkey, let alone a laughing one ?! Laughing - it seems to be not a vice, but the vile laugh of a half-witted Natsik following normal people of another nation - there is nothing more than ape in its baseness and primitiveness.

                  You sold your people, if you are Russian of course. Sold for free barbecue and coffee. For havchik sold.
                  1. I am a Russian
                    I am a Russian 21 October 2013 23: 45
                    10
                    Quote: Normal
                    You sold your people (vvvvv), if you are Russian of course. Sold for free barbecue and coffee. For havchik sold.


                    Normal I agree with you! You huge + !

                    It’s disgusting to read comments with calls to kiss animals.

                    Only communication from a position of strength, compliance with the law will bring order to the animals.
                    1. vvvvv
                      vvvvv 22 October 2013 06: 12
                      +1
                      I don’t mess with anyone, but I behave with people as they do with me. And I’m directly saying everything as it is.
                      I want to note that a STRONG PERSON DOES NOT LEAD MYSELF AS A BREAKER. Strong defends his! But, strong and sane, he also acts fairly. And who behaves like a lawless and unjust - these are exactly the ones that create problems even between peoples, even in the society of their people. Now you are inclined to collectively and unreasonably relate to the national question, then you will become exactly the same approach to any issues already internal to the Russian nation. Only this is no longer needed, because the enmity that you created with everyone will be the end of Russia. Exploding will begin not only the widows of Dagestan militants, but also the widows of all peoples killed by the Nazis of their husbands.
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                    3. vvvvv
                      vvvvv 22 October 2013 11: 09
                      -1
                      Is there a problem with the psyche ?! And also with elementary grammar.
                      Russian, supposedly, but you do not know how to write in Russian ...
                      And I put on someone’s threats. If there is a real threat, then all the possessed aggressors will be identified by any concepts and besieged. Moreover, regardless of the number of such aggressors and their conceit about themselves and their capabilities.
                      And I do not call the Natsiks who fought in Chechnya or somewhere else for Russia.
                      Natsiks are the followers of Hitler, against whom the fathers and grandfathers of the Russians fought. And Natsik is a group of warmed up money from the West, which is aimed at the collapse of Russia, at the separation of its territories. Well, nothing, Zyuganov had already proposed a law to imprison for calls for separation of territories from Russia under all sorts of wise arguments ...
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            3. Thunderbolt
              Thunderbolt 22 October 2013 00: 13
              11
              Quote: vvvvv
              I’m even ready to swear that I personally don’t remember in my city that at least once I saw unsuitable myself leading Central Asians or Caucasians!


              Nevertheless, you are either cunning, or walk few streets, well, or you live in a garden city literally, of a certain utopia what
            4. Thunderbolt
              Thunderbolt 22 October 2013 00: 18
              +1
              Quote: vvvvv
              I’m even ready to swear that I personally don’t remember in my city that at least once I saw unsuitable myself leading Central Asians or Caucasians!


              Nevertheless, you are either disingenuous, or walking little along the streets, well, or you live in a garden city literally, of a certain utopia what
              1. vvvvv
                vvvvv 22 October 2013 06: 19
                +3
                It is dangerous to walk the streets, for example, in the Samara and Orenburg regions, not because of the Uzbeks or Caucasians. Who is dangerous in all regions can be easily seen even on YouTube, having looked at how many cases on the road in conflict situations people of what appearance jump out of cars with bats ... There will be a scanty share with Uzbeks or Caucasians per 100 clips.
                Come on, you will find 50 different videos with outrage of all Caucasians or Central Asians in a row, and I will find the same with the Slavs ?! I am sure that I will find 500 clips, and you can hardly find a couple of dozen ... Here you have the indicator. It is obvious even without the need for a real search.
                1. tor11121
                  tor11121 22 October 2013 08: 27
                  +3
                  it’s useful to sometimes go out of the computer.
                2. vvvvv
                  vvvvv 22 October 2013 10: 58
                  0
                  It's right. But, I already almost every day go to the countryside. And you have to work at the computer, so you have to sit for a long time.
                  Or do you suggest that I have more chances on the street to fall under the bits of the Slav brothers ?! I already see this almost every day - the Russians beat the Russians ... Why don't you still want to shift the focus from nations to criminals and ushlepkov ?!
              2. GDP
                GDP 22 October 2013 09: 44
                +8
                You’ll walk around the cities of the North Caucasus ... He’ll drive heels of foreign cars to your house at one in the morning, turn them on to a full lezgin. And you will reassure your child who will be in the first class tomorrow and who cannot fall asleep, because you cannot go to them and send them away. They'll just tear you apart ...
                This is the most harmless thing that can be.
                The fact that 80% of Caucasians behave in the Russian regions and territories is brazen and defiantly a fact.
                They behave this way because we ourselves created conditions for impunity for them ...
              3. vvvvv
                vvvvv 22 October 2013 10: 56
                +1
                Under my windows, the central city park and Caucasians have practically no streets on our streets or they are neither visible nor audible. But absolutely every night, young people of Slavic appearance tear open the doors in cars and open the music to the fullest. One day a woman came up to me and made a remark, but I did not know that she could be heard in the house. I apologized and turned the music down to quiet.
        2. randomizer
          randomizer 22 October 2013 02: 01
          13
          You are sucking out of your finger. "<I accidentally met Caucasians, Greeks, Uzbeks, etc.> Why? Are you an active homosexual? Why so many casual relationships? Greek-Uzbeks is a rhyme? Of course you have not met, you want to create a veil of an expert - but here you go, I met, talked, they didn't beat me, and the Russian Natsik laughed disgustingly after us) Do you not like Russians so much? We will live without your love. Leave. Faster, somewhere. I want to upset you - there will always be a lot of Russians in this country. more and more. We woke up. From a 75 - year - old internationalist dream. "" I don’t remember such kindness and free feeding of unfamiliar people from the Slavs ... So draw your conclusions ...> "So this is the point! You are for Do you use "free feeding" here on the site?))) So I will disappoint you - they feed you, but they say to each other - you see the Russian pig is eating my slop! I work with a cafe and never even drank tea with them, they offer always. Their culture is different, if you drank for free - you are below him and should!pay or not! Think, do not eat more for free from unfamiliar Caucasians-Greeks-Uzbeks)
          1. vvvvv
            vvvvv 22 October 2013 06: 27
            0
            If I’m active, then you are obviously passive ... It seems to me from your text that you are just rude and nothing more. Do not judge by yourself. If you personally communicate with people for anal affairs, then others do not communicate with people so that they clean pipes. And Russia is multinational. In addition to its citizens - Caucasians, in Russia there are many other Muslim peoples and non-Russians. if you do not like Russia - the Empire (i.e. multinational), then you yourself can leave. You do not like in Russia. And I like it in Russia. And when a person invites to his table, then refusal is an insult. It is clear that you cannot communicate with people without insults. Neither with them, nor with Russians who have a point of view that you do not like.
            1. 3935333
              3935333 22 October 2013 09: 58
              +3
              all of it is so ... our country is multinational and multi-confessional, but !!! - from all the national republics (with some exceptions) there is a quiet, and in some republics brazen squeezing out of the Slavic population! in the same Maikop, girls at nightfall, and the guys do not go one by one, I will not even talk about the Caucasus (there are practically no Russians there) ... I have come across such phrases many times - that I have arrived ..., leave and do not come (and even from the employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs), ... the case - operas on stealing foreign cars came to Elista to arrest the car - received a lulya for three days (they took away the ksiva, the trunk, the partner was also trimmed) - they hushed up nothing ... (what he told not at all fits into a single country - "IM" (the owners of the republics that are part of the Russian Federation) deeply give a shit about federal laws, on the state forming a nation, "IM" only needs federal subsidies!
            2. vvvvv
              vvvvv 22 October 2013 10: 49
              -2
              Such problems need to be addressed by appropriate measures and at the state level. Obsoi.r.a.nami, incitement or beatings of innocent Uzbeks did not solve such problems ?! I am not less than yours, you are not satisfied with the described layouts. But, it’s precisely aiming for such things that we all need to work on - do not write all kinds of chukhnik and do not need to increase passions, but this is how you described the problems to formulate and put pressure on the authorities to solve such problems! I'm all for it! You have identified real problems. And they are not at all like the crimes of individual representatives of a certain ethnic group and the subsequent, for some reason, pogroms of the Russian Biryulyovo, gazelles and stalls of Russian owners ... Pridu.ru lost the property of other Russians and will argue that their methods of struggle are correct. ..
    2. randomizer
      randomizer 22 October 2013 01: 50
      +1
      To the point) So them moron liberoid!
  2. vvvvv
    vvvvv 21 October 2013 20: 28
    +9
    I answer the question on the elites in two comments.
    You may disagree with me, but I am such (I consider Putin to be pro-national).
    There are a lot of problems in Russia, but there are also a lot of progress since 2000. I will not list. If someone does not want to see this, then I will not prove something deliberately prejudiced. It is easy to change something only by language and the requirement to do this from others in the real conditions of Russia. Colossal money is spent on the military-industrial complex, and on many other things ... However, I will not write all this in detail. You can start minus. I can only say that I am very disappointed with the primitivism of the approach of some people, who often themselves did not try to do even small things in life, but they talk about global things in a buvoy way with a childish idea that the authorities only need to want and everything would be easy. And the resources would have been found, and the Russians who are not very vocal for the embodiment ... Or dream of Stalin ... I may be like all of you (anti-Putin) would like to dream, but I am a realist and I understand how difficult it is to change and create something. And I see that the authorities are trying to improve in all directions. But, among the elites, there are very many who work either purely for themselves, or even against Russia. But not all. And if everything, then we would have long been a full PPC. But, you do not understand this and do not want to understand. Rogozin what is bad for you, Shoigu, Dugin, Zyuganov and many others ?! CSTO, SCO, Eurasian Economic Community - also created enemies of Russia ?! SNAO, S-400 and other weapons - are the enemies also updating, led by Rogozin ?! Sometimes I do not understand our patriots - either they are blind, or they are zombified with prejudice, or they do not study and do not accept information and therefore do not want to see the positive. Everything is bad and Putin must leave - personally, I naichny to doubt either the sanity of such people, or their patriotism ... So Izya and John will create profiles like "Russian patriot" and pump their profile in this style, and ACTUALLY DO KEEPING IN CIVIL RUSSIA WARS AND ON THE SOIL OF NATIONAL DISSOLVE AND UNDERSTAND CONFIDENCE IN THE AUTHORITIES OF RUSSIA, WHICH TODAY IS PRACTICALLY ONE IN THE WHOLE WORLD IS OPPOSING THE WAY OF THE WEST.
    I can understand the provocateurs, but I can not understand the real Russian patriots who drove something to their head and categorically do not want to consider positive FACTS and ARGUMENTS. And do not ask them again. Here on the website there are plenty of them for the military-industrial complex.
    1. New Russia
      New Russia 21 October 2013 20: 41
      10
      I don’t put you a minus, I’ll just answer.

      "There are a lot of problems in Russia, but there are also a lot of progress since 2000." Reforms of education, housing and communal services, medicine, pension failed and led to increased corruption and commercialization of these areas. The depreciation of housing and communal services was 70% and remained, despite the fact that tariffs have increased several times, the accident rate is growing every year, the level of education fell exactly under Putin from 3rd to 56th place, accession to the WTO led to dire consequences.
      Millions of Asian migrants are imported by Putin, not Yeltsin.

      "Rogozin what is bad for you" and you read about how the income of his son increased and how Rogozin carried out major government contracts through his firm. By the way Rogozin said the right things before he sold out.


      "I can't understand real Russian patriots" Just Russians patriots will understand you, unlike Russian patriots)
      1. vvvvv
        vvvvv 21 October 2013 21: 21
        -3
        The lie is all that you wrote utter !!!
        Who, for what purpose are you trying to impress?
        I live in a small town - less than 100 thousand people and now, in order, I will refute your lies even with the example of my deaf city.
        1. Education. This is generally my field and it is not for you to tell me about it.
        All corruption and garbage is 100% created by ordinary teachers, students and muddy businessmen outside the walls of universities. Namely, the authorities bring FSB officers into the universities who are struggling with the most egregious problems of corruption, etc. I can even name them by name, but this is unnecessary. And in full-time departments, and in many even in absentia, and in individual departments - almost 100% perfect order. This is about normal old universities, and not left offices. I thoroughly know everything in this area. And I know that the authorities are trying to put things in order and the top management of universities, and ordinary people are just a crook !!!!!!! No, the point is not in low salaries, but in greed. The measures do not know. All the foreign car teachers who are corrupt are immediately visible. I am aware of specific schemes and surnames for a number of universities in a number of regions.
        Are you trying to tell me something about education ...
        2. About Rogozin slanders (obviously) your friend "Anal". Rogozin has long responded to this slander, but you probably ignore this or write here according to the instructions ?!
        3. Migrants have built the whole of Russia ... You will not take revenge on the yards and do all the dirty work. You prefer to work here - write under a purely "Russian" profile ...
        Central Asia is a buffer from the Arab world and its "charms". Now the Americans are leaving Manas and Russia is restoring and strengthening its bases and military cooperation there to prevent the penetration of radical Islamism into Central Asia. And Kazakhstan is generally the "underbelly" of Russia. To lose the friendliness of the Caucasus and Central Asia is to lose the buffer, as the Warsaw Pact countries and the union republics lost! Then they will either join NATO, or there will be radical Islamism like their own.
        THEREFORE, SUCH SPEECHES WHICH YOU LEAD - MAY BECOME ANY FULL FOLLOWS, OR AN ABSOLUTE ENEMIES OF RUSSIA. WHO ARE YOU?!
        4. I have a renovated staircase. Everywhere in the city repaired. Pipes changed heating mains and do something annually. And a friend heads the cap department. construction in one big city, so I know from him everything about housing and communal services first-hand.
        AND I CAN SAY EVERYONE UNKNOWLEDGE THAT THE STATE IS SIMPLY RIGIDLY PREVENTED BY THE SMALLEST ABUSE IN THE HOUSING. And FOR THE LITTLE THEFT - PLANT. And so in general in all state structures now.
        1. New Russia
          New Russia 21 October 2013 22: 05
          +7
          "AND I CAN TELL ALL THE UNIDENTIFIED THAT THE STATE IS SIMPLY CRUELY PRESSING THE SMALLEST ABUSE IN THE HUSBANDS. AND FOR THE LITTEST STEALING, THEY IS PLAGED." No comment, the rest can be skipped.

          "Lies everything that you wrote is complete !!!
          Who, what and for what purposes are you trying to instill ?! "Where there are numbers in what I said, these are the official statistics of our state, google.

          "THEREFORE, SUCH SPEECHES WHICH YOU MAKE - CAN LEAD EITHER FULL STUFF, OR ABSOLUTE ENEMIES OF RUSSIA. ARE YOU WHO ?!" I'm an ordinary person, and you apparently just flew from Sirius yesterday, when they tell me about a tough fight against corruption, especially in housing and communal services, I don't know how to laugh or cry, it seems to me that you are studying in grade 9, that's all your attitude to education)

          "Migrants have built the whole of Russia ... You will not take revenge on the yards and do all the dirty work." I wonder who did this before in Russia, the Martians?)
          1. Normal
            Normal 21 October 2013 23: 32
            +4
            Quote: New Russia
            I am an ordinary person, and apparently you just arrived from Sirius yesterday

            He is not from Sirius, he is from Seliger. Who are you arguing with? This is a national traitor. Bad, ready for a jar of jam and a basket of cookies
            Quote: vvvvv
            And I’m sure, I know more precisely from experience that it’s when they come to them somewhere - they’ll give you coffee and barbecue for free, even though you just just met recently. Such kindness and freestuffing I don’t remember something unfamiliar from the Slavs.
            give the country to Caucasians and Asians. A lover of free food.
            A pig in a stable considers himself superior to a person by the fact that a person brings her food and removes the shit after her. She just does not know why a person is doing this. She is happy with a freebie feeding. But the pig has no choice.
            How does this instance differ from it? The fact that he has a choice, but he consciously likened to an animal that is fed for slaughter
          2. New Russia
            New Russia 21 October 2013 23: 36
            +3
            Well, yes, judging by the delirium about the fight against corruption and weak ideological treatment (meeting other opinions, restrained aggressiveness and attempts at self-hypnosis in the correctness of the defended position), he is 16 years old)
          3. randomizer
            randomizer 22 October 2013 02: 17
            +4
            Also came to this conclusion. It seems to me that he writes more than one - noticeable fluctuations in style and intelligence. It’s about a lackey havchik, then about a friend from the housing and communal services) Maybe a friend is a bum?)
          4. vvvvv
            vvvvv 22 October 2013 06: 36
            -5
            Obviously, you’re a hamlet and a youngster, because you can’t talk like a normal adult. And you do not know anything about what is happening on personal experience, but only from Western anti-Russian propaganda.
        2. Russ69
          Russ69 22 October 2013 02: 01
          +1
          Quote: Normal
          This is a national traitor
          Some figures in the middle of the last century in Germany, very similarly said ... Neither ...?
        3. New Russia
          New Russia 22 October 2013 02: 07
          +1
          Some figures said so in the 30s in the USSR that)
        4. vvvvv
          vvvvv 22 October 2013 06: 45
          0
          They are far from the figures. Banal stupidity. The complete lack of thinking. Russia can exist only multinational, and even more so if it claims to regain the influence of the Empire. In this case, the national issue should be decided not by frenzied Nazis, fools, but people of a level no less than A. Dugin and other Russian philosophers and geopolitics.
          And our Natsiks echo absolutely pro-Western slogans about the separation of the Caucasus, enmity with Central Asia, where Russia today is creating its military buffer against radical Islam. But the Nazi enemies and they threaten the security of Russia, aggravating relations with the Caucasus and Central Asia. When in their person Russia loses its allies, it will be the fault of these Natsiks. It was through the hands of such fools or traitors that Russia lost all the union republics of the USSR and the union countries of the Warsaw Pact, which are now members of NATO.
          THIS IS A COMPLETELY REAL EXAMPLE OF WHO IS THE REAL ENEMIES OF RUSSIA!
      2. vvvvv
        vvvvv 22 October 2013 06: 34
        0
        The pig manifests itself in deeds - rudeness and lack of human, which you demonstrate. You cannot communicate humanly with other nations or with other Russians. Therefore, people communicate with people, and you communicate with people in a pig’s way and want everyone to grunt with you to the beat.
    2. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 22 October 2013 00: 23
      +3
      It is useless to argue with him about this ... perhaps the "Nashist, the Young Guard" is sitting, on the instructions of Yakimenko, he writes ... I certainly do not assert ... but the master writes fables winked
    3. vvvvv
      vvvvv 22 October 2013 06: 30
      -2
      Most likely you live somewhere outside of society and do not know the simplest things that are happening. Judge only by your and their similar bikes.
  3. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 21 October 2013 22: 42
    +8
    vvvvv (3) RU Today, 21:21 ↑
    ..........
    4. I have a renovated staircase. Everywhere in the city repaired. Pipes changed heating mains and do something annually. And a friend heads the cap department. construction in one big city, so I know from him everything about housing and communal services first-hand.
    AND I CAN SAY EVERYONE UNKNOWLEDGE THAT THE STATE IS SIMPLY RIGIDLY PREVENTED BY THE SMALLEST ABUSE IN THE HOUSING. And FOR THE LITTLE THEFT - PLANT. And so in general in all government agencies now. [/ Quote]
    Well, at the expense of housing and communal services you obviously went too far. Theft, inaction in the repair of communications (in the basement constantly breaks down the sewer), etc. etc. to infinity. The same Asians work half-rate. Or do we live in different states?
    1. aviator65
      aviator65 22 October 2013 00: 01
      +3
      " And a friend heads the cap department. construction in one big city, so I know from him everything about housing and communal services first-hand."
      Yeah! Tell me who your friend is and I will answer who you are. (Classic)
    2. vvvvv
      vvvvv 22 October 2013 06: 59
      -2
      I will introduce myself humanly with everyone. Therefore, even with my clients, I have more than just business relationships. And some of my just friends have repeatedly said that they are only ready to kill anyone for me. And I have repeatedly discussed with people including national issues and they completely agree with me. And my friends and acquaintances also communicate with people of other nations. And also eat if invited at the table. And many acquaintances have a high weight in society and no one dares dare to reproach them with something in person. I think that many inciting hostility somewhere in the social. networks - these are people with some kind of problems in communicating with people. I do not argue that in life you have to show strength in communication in order to be reckoned with, but this is true in general, and not just between nations. Although my friends and I communicated with other nations, we can also say that they can be arrogant and cunning. What are you silent about, for example, the Tatars ?! They have a national identity - more than someone strong in spirit and arrogant. Do not respect weakness at all. Next offer to quarrel with them ?!
    3. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 22 October 2013 19: 53
      +1
      ... and then Ostap suffered ... First they themselves began to sing the praises of the housing and communal services, and then, it turns out, who criticizes the housing and communal services, he incites ethnic hatred. You already put everything in your head on the shelves, otherwise everything is in a heap.
    4. aviator65
      aviator65 23 October 2013 19: 32
      0
      Dear WWW! I bow to your modesty. Yes, you are just a saint! Owning such a syllable, and living surrounded by the same saints (I especially liked " some of my just friends "), you should start writing a new Bible.
  4. vvvvv
    vvvvv 22 October 2013 06: 48
    0
    I speak from personal experience. If you personally cannot get something from the local housing and communal services, then this is purely your fault! I have no complaints about the inaction of my housing and communal services.
  5. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 22 October 2013 20: 15
    +3
    Quote: vvvvv
    I speak from personal experience. If you personally cannot get something from the local housing and communal services, then this is purely your fault! I have no complaints about the inaction of my housing and communal services.

    Not personally, I-the whole apartment building can not achieve. Something was not designed there, they say, in the Soviet era, so they are not in business right now. And guess whose side the most humane took? Of course, the humiliated and offended ... Housing and communal services ...
  • Ivan_Ivanov
    Ivan_Ivanov 21 October 2013 23: 11
    +1
    Dear vvvvv, let me thank you for your patience in explaining your position and for your understanding and ability to convey your point of view. You write not to your opponent, but to an accidental reader, a witness to the dispute. And even if you fail to convince the zombies, your time and effort will not be wasted. Others will read you.

    Thanks again.
    1. New Russia
      New Russia 21 October 2013 23: 21
      +2
      You called many people zombies and a man who says that corruption in the housing and communal services is everywhere and they are fighting hard and believe that you are not a zombie) You who you are, aliens from distant planets)
    2. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 22 October 2013 00: 28
      +4
      Remember! Before the elections of that year, there were a lot of such "vvvv" here, they conducted such a wide campaign on this site and this "comrade" was also))) I remember him perfectly))
    3. I am a Russian
      I am a Russian 23 October 2013 00: 45
      +1
      Quote: vvvvv
      I say


      Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
      Dear vvvvv,


      this couple "pulls" one note
  • vvvvv
    vvvvv 22 October 2013 07: 07
    +1
    I’m glad that there are people who understand that you can be strong if you have many friends, not enemies. And Russia has historically been multinational and owned, and owns, like no one else in the world, vast territories. And once mono-ethnic European countries are microscopic ... All powerful empires are unions of many nations. Even China is hundreds of peoples, just of Asian appearance.
    And only having friends in the form of the Caucasus, Asia, Slavic Ukraine and Belarus, etc. Russia can survive, and with it these countries and peoples themselves. After all, even Ukrainians and Russians are trying to quarrel. Ukrainian nationalists generally do not consider Russian Slavs, because Russians have Finno-Ugric blood and they are not Slavs ...
    Not the ability to compromise with people, the separation of the peoples of Russia-this is CRIMINAL STUPIDness!
  • Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 23 October 2013 00: 33
    +1
    Who says the opposite ??? Or are you with whom now ???
  • falcon
    falcon 21 October 2013 23: 48
    +5
    Quote: vvvvv
    And a friend heads the cap department. construction in one big city, so I know from him everything about housing and communal services first-hand.
    AND I CAN SAY EVERYONE UNKNOWLEDGE THAT THE STATE IS SIMPLY RIGIDLY PREVENTED BY THE SMALLEST ABUSE IN THE HOUSING. And FOR THE LITTLE THEFT - PLANT. And so in general in all state structures now.

    In Russia, the slightest theft is really planted. Bag of Potatoes
    two years in a colony. And let me ask, are you such surnames
    Serdyukov, Vasilyeva, Chubais heard? They are also from government agencies.
    Although you can safely say that they did not steal anything, and you will
    formally right - after all, there is no court verdict on them, and, rather
    everything will not be. And so "in general, in all state structures now" (C).
    1. vvvvv
      vvvvv 22 October 2013 07: 23
      -1
      As for Chubais, all kinds of Gaidars and other "liberoids", I agree with Kvachkov.
      Once again, you understand everything in a simplified way. In general, the oligarchy was implanted as a comprador rule of Russia even under Yeltsin. And the branch mafia and clans date back to the 60-70s of Soviet power ... Read about it at least from the National Bolshevik Limonov. He writes that the clans have long been united into corporations, and in the west they have long grown to TNCs - international structures. But it is not difficult to see that Putin has taken a course of sovereignty from these structures. However, an abstract pro-national power in Russia cannot have power, but only on the basis of real connections, i.e. on the basis of the same corporations and clans within Russia. Maybe you don’t understand that it’s impossible to return the powerful power of the USSR on the basis of the Communist Party ?! You are in dangerous and primitive delusions! The whole world is GLOBALLY OVERCOMED BY THE WESTERN ELITES, UNITED IN AN ACTUAL "SHADOW WORLD GOVERNMENT". As Putin said, today practically no country in the world can afford sovereignty !!! Finally start thinking realistically! You name the names and say that only a tiny fraction describes the problematics !!!! Understand at last! Everything is much worse and more dangerous! There are internal thieves, crooks and businessmen associated with the West since the 90s. and they still have a huge influence! After all, all loans for business are taken abroad in banks controlled by the Western elites, so they put enormous pressure on our business. Therefore, Russia with the SCO countries is creating its own bank to finance business !!! An alternative to the IMF, etc. Start, pliz, at least a little to enter the real state of affairs and see what is happening !!! I believe that everyone who opposes me here are sincere Russian patriots, but I assure you, you understand a lot and see it wrongly. This is dangerous! I do not mind what you are talking about, but if you do not understand, you will be in favor of erroneous, dangerous and primitive decisions!
      Russia should not be at war with anyone, it needs the status quo or friendship of others. Only in this way can we save ourselves and be strong. It is much more complicated and longer than simple solutions, but simple solutions are harmful!
  • aviator65
    aviator65 21 October 2013 23: 58
    +3
    WWW, who inspired these spells for you? Have you yourself believed in them for a long time?
  • Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 22 October 2013 00: 20
    +2
    Her .... I'm sure you're just agitating for Pu ...
  • 4952915
    4952915 22 October 2013 05: 57
    +7
    The overall thrust of the post is generally positive, but the ridiculous lie spoils the whole impression. I will only say that I know for sure, since quite recently it was "my sphere".
    1.FSS employees in universities in a city of 100 ?! Yes, you have a maximum of 2-3 operas per city))) Are they entrusting the police with the functions of idleness? Foreign brands from teachers are not a 1450% sign of corruption, they earn good money also by working part-time in the field of education. Recently I transferred my daughter to another school, it turned out that she was bad with English - so I pay 20 rubles a month for additional classes, led by university teachers. There are 11 people in a group. I think that teachers are not fixated on a single group. "School of universities" for XNUMX-graders is also not cheap pleasure. Schemes and names ... So do not trump them here, but on principle go to the police and offer your help in exposing the evil corrupt officials - teachers! \
    2.Pro Rogozin not in the know. \
    3. Migrants built all of Russia ?! This is a diagnosis, I won’t even refute it.
    4. As an investigator, five or six years ago I investigated many cases of housing and communal services enterprises, mainly tax ones, so I know the problem. For the last 20 years (and our city is not the poorest in the region), repairs are only done urgently, the so-called. "patch"! There are no massive replacements of communications and are not expected. It leaked - they put a patch, according to the communal services, a more or less serious accident can be eliminated only with the help of the Ministry of Emergencies and Moscow - everything is worn out completely from Soviet times. So "pipes and heating mains" do not change, they eliminate minor breakdowns and that's it. There are no massive replacements of the worn-out fund and are not planned, except in Moscow (?). Abuse is really suppressed - I personally sent five to seven cases against the heads of housing and communal services to the court, (mainly Articles 199 and 201) all received suspended sentences, almost all remained in their posts. So what? Did such a "suppression" help someone? You shouldn't paint such a rainbow picture. In all state structures now - got caught, they will threaten you in court with a finger. Humanization. But they do not "plant", all the more in a capsule. If suddenly someone does not know, another mass amnesty is being prepared.
    P.S. And the entrances - yes, are being repaired. You will be surprised, but the cost of this repair is initially included in the utility bill, and is overpriced - it appears in the costs, for example, the purchase of milk for plumbers.
  • Flooding
    Flooding 22 October 2013 09: 52
    +1
    Quote: vvvvv
    Migrants built all of Russia ...

    Then why continue? You can put a bullet on this.
  • Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 21 October 2013 21: 13
    +1
    Quote: vvvvv
    but a lot of progress since 2000. I will not list
    Therefore, the rest of the text is unsubstantiated and unproven.

    The only thing:
    Positive FACTS AND ARGUMENTS. And do not ask them again. Here on the website there are plenty of them for the military-industrial complex.
    Do not you confuse positive with pluses and the norm?
    1. vvvvv
      vvvvv 21 October 2013 21: 37
      -2
      Thank God that most Russians do not need to list and they know everything themselves. And you just put a question in advance, the answer to which is simply laborious to enumerate and essentially stupid. If you do not live in Russia, then ignorance is understandable. Here is your comrade (by his views) writes very strange things - knowingly falsely, as if he does not live in Russia and knows about it from some instructions, very likely "State Department", no matter how ridiculous it may sound ... I live in Russia, even in the outback, and I know the real situation in all spheres, I see everything with my own eyes. And you are drawing together something that is already irrelevant - from outdated instructions. I can give anyone an excursion to all problematic places and point a finger and let them know first-hand. And all my friends always agree with me, tk. can easily see everything for themselves. And it is more and more difficult to brainwash them with inflammatory rhetoric. Therefore, obviously, from the bins got national conflicts and explosions in buses. Only bad luck - a large package of laws on migration policy has been developed for a long time and will soon come into force, i.e. the issue of migrants will lose urgency ...
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 21 October 2013 22: 32
        +5
        Quote: vvvvv
        I live in Russia, even in the hinterland, and I know the real situation in all areas, I see everything with my own eyes

        You have a FULL FOOD per month, provided there is no homestead farm - how many monetary units do you need?
        1. New Russia
          New Russia 21 October 2013 22: 39
          +4
          Yarosvet, after the words of a person I live in the outback, and I know the real situation in all areas, I see everything with my own eyes ...)
        2. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 21 October 2013 23: 15
          +3
          Quote: New Russia
          Yarosvet, after the words of a person I live in the outback, and I know the real situation in all areas, I see everything with my own eyes ...)

          Particularly touching is how he tries to get away from answers to specific questions and from giving examples. laughing
        3. New Russia
          New Russia 21 October 2013 23: 24
          +4
          "from giving examples" A person lives in a wonderful world, where everything is fine, there is no crime, people of honor are in power and there is only happiness ahead) It's a pity, childhood passes quickly ...)
        4. vvvvv
          vvvvv 22 October 2013 07: 34
          -1
          It is true that the world for each person is such as he sees it through the prism of his perception ...
    2. vvvvv
      vvvvv 22 October 2013 07: 33
      -2
      Living in the outback does not mean some kind of inferiority. I would be willing to bet a lot of money that you personally would have lost to me a lot both in general erudition and in competence in many branches of knowledge and scientific disciplines. Already only your lack of knowledge of the term "Heart of the World" speaks of the absence of the simplest erudition ...
  • vvvvv
    vvvvv 22 October 2013 07: 29
    -1
    I have huge costs that I will not voice. But, I earn my bread with my labor and entrepreneurship. I am not an official, etc., by the way.
    And my father, grandfather - they have very high pensions. I was definitely not interested, but I know that at least 30 thousand rubles. father and about 50 thousand rubles. grandfather, because he is still a veteran of the Second World War. I know that a simple policeman receives more than 50 thousand rubles.
  • Normal
    Normal 21 October 2013 23: 40
    -1
    Quote: vvvvv
    . Therefore, obviously, national conflicts and bus bombings were taken out of the bins.

    Oh, you .... I wish you to be in the next such bus, and so that only you would be like you.
    1. vvvvv
      vvvvv 22 October 2013 07: 37
      0
      Change your nickname, pliz, and then write this ...
  • Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 22 October 2013 00: 06
    +4
    Quote: vvvvv
    Thank God that most Russians do not need to list and they know everything themselves. And you just put a question in advance, the answer to which is simply laborious to enumerate and essentially stupid. If you do not live in Russia, then ignorance is understandable. Here is your comrade (by his views) writes very strange things - knowingly falsely, as if he does not live in Russia and knows about it from some instructions, very likely "State Department", no matter how ridiculous it may sound ... I live in Russia, even in the outback, and I know the real situation in all spheres, I see everything with my own eyes. And you are drawing together something that is already irrelevant - from outdated instructions. I can give anyone an excursion to all problematic places and point a finger and let them know first-hand. And all my friends always agree with me, tk. can easily see everything for themselves. And it is more and more difficult to brainwash them with inflammatory rhetoric. Therefore, obviously, from the bins got national conflicts and explosions in buses. Only bad luck - a large package of laws on migration policy has been developed for a long time and will soon come into force, i.e. the issue of migrants will lose urgency ...

    Eh ... It seems to me that you live either on the ruble, or, at least, in such a modest cottage. Well, or you are VERY LUCKY with the housing and communal services office, but you don't need to take me on excursions. It is enough for me to stick my nose into my entrance. And the picture is the same almost everywhere. You are either at the "trough", or in an airtight helmet ...
    1. Normal
      Normal 22 October 2013 00: 57
      +4
      Quote: Semyon Semyonich
      ..It seems to me that you live or in rubles,

      On Rublevka, of course, everything is enough, but there are no such instances. It is rather from Ivanov (Light)
    2. vvvvv
      vvvvv 22 October 2013 07: 39
      -1
      At my entrance, I laid tiles on two floors and pushed in a plastic window. And my wife washes the entrance to one of all the apartments. And if not a single person is on the whole staircase and everyone can only s.r.a.t.t. and whine, then ...
  • sergeschern
    sergeschern 23 October 2013 12: 55
    +1
    "Who once lied, who will believe you?" - I do not believe you! Well, absolutely!
  • alekseyal
    alekseyal 22 October 2013 06: 36
    +3
    Quote: Yarosvet
    Therefore, the rest of the text is unsubstantiated and unproven.

    Although I do not support Putin in everything, for example, I am against joining the WTO, I can list:

    1. Prevention of the collapse of Russia in 1999 (rebuff to Basayev’s attack on Dagestan)
    2. The abolition of the system of oligarchic governance (seven-bankers).
    3. Cancellation of PSA of the production sharing agreement (for one year, tax revenues to the Russian budget increased several times)
    4. In August 1999, Yeltsin appointed Putin as prime minister, and the Putin government increased the fee already in September to 7,5 euros per ton, and from December 8 to 15 euros per ton. Today, exporters deduct about half of the price of exported oil to the country's budget. Customs officers transferred 2007 trillion rubles to the federal budget from January to November 2,57. In fact, this is half of the Russian budget, which recently added an additional trillion.
    5. Putin nationalized Yukos without annoying the emerging Russian business - through bankruptcy and auction. Everything is within the framework of existing laws adopted by the democratic parliament.
    6. Elimination of the influence of the West on many domestic political processes in Russia, in contrast to the 90s. In 1992-1995. The state apparatus of Russia was created by foreign advisers. All Russian legislation in the 90s, including tax, is written on foreign grants. 10000 foreign advisers worked in Russian ministries, including all economic ones. There are still a lot of US agents in power, they need to be cleaned.
    7. Putin increased Russia's political influence in the world, contributed to improving Russia's image in the world political arena. Today, Russia is an independent and influential country that acts in its own interests, and not as it is beneficial to the West. The example of the defense of Syria has raised Russia's prestige to a high level.
    8. Russia's GDP in 1999 was equal to $ 177 billion or $ 1210 per capita. GDP at PPP (purchasing power parity) was approximately $ 887 billion (or $ 6060 per capita). In 2010, compared with 1999, GDP increased 8,34 times and amounted to $ 1477 billion (or $ 10400 per capita)
    9. In 1999, the external State Debt of Russia amounted to $ 138 billion, or 78% of GDP. By January 2010, it decreased 3,4 times and now equals $ 40,7 billion, or 2,75% of GDP. For comparison: the US External Debt today is 343 times higher than Russia's external public debt and is already more than $ 17 trillion, which is more than the US GDP!

    And finally, a few quotes about the level of corruption in Yeltsin’s times

    - In 1999, academician of the RAS D. S. Lvov and Doctor of Economics Yu. V. Ovsienko evaluated corruption in Russia as “total”.

    - In early 1999, the Deputy Prosecutor General of Russia Yu. Ya. Chaika stated that Russia is among the ten most corrupt countries in the world and that corruption is one of the most destructive forces in the Russian state.

    - In May 1999, the Deputy Minister of Finance of Russia Oleg Vyugin noted that the system of power and business in Russia is largely saturated with corruption and criminal business.

    - Journalist Mark Simpson in the British newspaper The Guardian wrote that during the presidency of Yeltsin in Russia there was such widespread corruption and banditry that there were no analogues in history.

    What good has Putin done for Russia? (with statistics)
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/12182/
  • Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 21 October 2013 21: 56
    +3
    Has it been a long time since "real" money began to go to the military-industrial complex? And there is a slight difference between "leaving" and "reaching" ... When there will be at least 50 dryers and 500 tanks a year, then I will believe that it comes.
    1. vvvvv
      vvvvv 22 October 2013 07: 41
      0
      And I will believe in something when there will be fewer such critics, and more business people.
      1. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 22 October 2013 20: 09
        +2
        Quote: vvvvv
        And I will believe in something when there will be fewer such critics, and more business people.

        Well, okay. You then, unlike other people, CASES ... Sorry, I got excited recourse Everything is super-duper! Hooray! Hooray! Hooray!
  • andruha70
    andruha70 21 October 2013 21: 58
    18
    There are a lot of problems in Russia, but there are a lot of progress since 2000. I will not list. If someone does not want to see this, then I will not begin to prove something obviously biased.
    I fully support. good from the point of view of a Russian living outside the Russian Federation, I will say: it is not a secret for anyone that the standard of living in Russia is higher than in any, I repeat, ANY, other, "former" republic (and if any of these "former" -. opu vomits about the fact that once, someone, someone fed them all). but ... in terms of the culture of behavior (in some regions), they are still far from such "black-tailed" regions (this expression is not something I came up with) request where I live ... information for consideration ... my child, at the age of 11, calmly, unaccompanied, goes to tai-kwan-do training from 8 pm to 10 on ordinary public transport at a distance of 3 km from home ... tongue in the house, by the way (I live on the ground) the gates are not locked at night ... yes but in Moscow, one woodpecker had to prove with his fists (in words, for some reason he didn’t want to understand request ) that the empty beer bottle thrown by him in the elevator is not buzzing ... after all, 10 meters from the entrance there is a rubbish bin. belay
    1. andruha70
      andruha70 21 October 2013 22: 23
      +3
      which ... minus rolled in? Does it really hurt your eyes? Yes, at least a hundred minuses draw-it’s true, and in Africa, it’s true ... tongue
      1. New Russia
        New Russia 21 October 2013 22: 30
        +1
        I rolled it in) "from the point of view of a Russian living outside the Russian Federation, I will say: it is not a secret for anyone that the standard of living in Russia is higher than in any, I repeat, ANY, other," former "republic." Tell you the salary of school (and not only school) teachers and doctors?) From the first person, so to speak?)
        1. igor67
          igor67 21 October 2013 23: 10
          +9
          Quote: New Russia
          I rolled it in) "from the point of view of a Russian living outside the Russian Federation, I will say: it is not a secret for anyone that the standard of living in Russia is higher than in any, I repeat, ANY, other," former "republic." Tell you the salary of school (and not only school) teachers and doctors?) From the first person, so to speak?)

          Do you guys actually have a terrorist attack, people died, and you about housing and communal services? !!
        2. New Russia
          New Russia 21 October 2013 23: 15
          0
          Andryukha 70 says we are prospering, keep quiet or something ... For me personally, this episode is no different from other episodes of genocide, if I didn’t give a damn, I wouldn’t argue with some until blue in the face.
        3. igor67
          igor67 21 October 2013 23: 24
          +7
          Quote: New Russia
          Andryukha 70 says we are prospering, keep quiet or something ... For me personally, this episode is no different from other episodes of genocide, if I didn’t give a damn, I wouldn’t argue with some until blue in the face.

          Terrorist attacks do not come from prosperity, but from religious fanaticism. Moreover, it’s not possible to understand the psyche of a suicide bomber, and they are not always from poor families, more often problematic in their personal fields, or something else. It is difficult to understand a person who is going to kill others by himself. By the way, the same Circassians, although they had converted to Islam, did not hear about suicide bombers. He worked with the Circassians, normal guys, one was from Maykop, he came to Israel and married a local Circassian,
        4. New Russia
          New Russia 21 October 2013 23: 32
          +1
          "it is not possible to understand the psyche of a suicide bomber" Everything is very simple, religion and ideology form the image of war and the enemy, during a war there are reasons for what you are fighting for and there is something for which you take revenge, the main thing is to slightly strengthen in your fragile brain the image of what your side is losing in the war with the damned unfaithful drunkards and libertines Russians, and you will go and take revenge like the Russians throwing themselves under the tanks.
        5. vvvvv
          vvvvv 22 October 2013 07: 46
          -2
          Suicide bombers and Russia's problems are created by people like you. When after your incitement the innocent Uzbek is killed, his widow will carry out a new attack. And the deaths of women and children will be on your conscience. But, these are not your children - you do not care ... The aggressive and incendiary are to blame for everything. All problems should be solved by law, and not by lawlessness.
      2. chehywed
        chehywed 21 October 2013 23: 43
        +1
        Quote: New Russia

        Andryukha 70 says we are prospering, keep quiet or something ... Personally for me this episode is no different from other episodes of genocide, if I didn't give a damn here did not argue with some until blue in the face.

        But New Nerus does not argue, but puts it in an emergency.
    2. andruha70
      andruha70 21 October 2013 23: 55
      0
      Andrei 70 says we are prospering, keep silent or something ...
      but I don’t say that you are prospering ... I say that you are decaying — somewhat more slowly than everyone else. laughing wassat for special steamboats (not for New Russia repeat love ) this is a joke of humor ... lol
  • Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 22 October 2013 00: 09
    +3
    Quote: igor67
    Quote: New Russia
    I rolled it in) "from the point of view of a Russian living outside the Russian Federation, I will say: it is not a secret for anyone that the standard of living in Russia is higher than in any, I repeat, ANY, other," former "republic." Tell you the salary of school (and not only school) teachers and doctors?) From the first person, so to speak?)

    Do you guys actually have a terrorist attack, people died, and you about housing and communal services? !!

    Any topic has the property of branching. Housing and communal services-the theme of corruption-terrorist attack. Communication is not traced?
  • igor67
    igor67 22 October 2013 00: 18
    +3
    Quote: Semen Semenych
    Quote: igor67
    Quote: New Russia
    I rolled it in) "from the point of view of a Russian living outside the Russian Federation, I will say: it is not a secret for anyone that the standard of living in Russia is higher than in any, I repeat, ANY, other," former "republic." Tell you the salary of school (and not only school) teachers and doctors?) From the first person, so to speak?)

    Do you guys actually have a terrorist attack, people died, and you about housing and communal services? !!

    Any topic has the property of branching. Housing and communal services-the theme of corruption-terrorist attack. Communication is not traced?

    No, I don’t see the connection, housing and communal services is something that has become painful for many years, I perfectly remember the defrosted heating systems, broken pipes, but this is life. Bus explosion is politics. Vile but politics
  • andruha70
    andruha70 22 October 2013 00: 14
    +2
    Do you guys actually have a terrorist attack, people died, and you about housing and communal services? !!
    dear, and where did you see ranting about housing and communal services? request the conversation was a little about something else.
  • andruha70
    andruha70 21 October 2013 23: 47
    +1
    Tell you the salary of school (and not only school) teachers and doctors?) From the first person so to speak?
    personally from you — I agree minus get ... repeat here's the answer love but on business, tell you how much school teachers get (and not only ...) in the "former" - anyway, less than in Russia ... request
  • New Russia
    New Russia 22 October 2013 00: 00
    +1
    Embarrassed) I myself am just a school teacher)
  • andruha70
    andruha70 22 October 2013 00: 29
    +4
    Embarrassed) I myself am just a school teacher)
    don't be embarrassed. you are a woman! you are worthy of compliments love and if you’re also a triple teacher. love love love repeat
  • vvvvv
    vvvvv 22 October 2013 07: 48
    -3
    It’s scary to think what you teach children ...
  • aviator65
    aviator65 22 October 2013 01: 06
    +3
    And you did not ask this woodpecker, how long has he settled in Moscow?
    " but ... in terms of the culture of behavior (in some regions), they are still far from such "black-tailed" regions (this expression is not something I came up with)"
    Interestingly, where does this very culture of behavior of the representatives of these regions go when they come to the same Moscow? I'm glad for your child, but do you really think that our children move around Moscow (I'm a Muscovite, excuse me) entirely by personal transport and exclusively with security? Of course, this does not add calmness, but the reason here is not in the "uncultured" Muscovites, but in the fact that when you go out into your yard, you feel as if you are in a village or aul. Moreover, not the most cultured one. And this is already getting disgusting.
    1. andruha70
      andruha70 22 October 2013 12: 08
      0
      And you did not ask this woodpecker, how long has he settled in Moscow?
      I repent ... did not ask repeat But was it necessary? me, somehow it makes no difference, a native Muscovite or not. screwed up-get an oral warning ... did not understand-get in your ear ... everything is simple angry
      I wonder where does this very culture of behavior of representatives of these regions go when they come to the same Moscow?
      here I am forced to agree with you. I myself, in a deep sound ... request why-here-behave decently ... and there-not really ... belay maybe the fact is that there is no one slamming them into the ear? wink you can write a whole "sheet" here, for such a thing as homo sapiens, but ... the laws of nature have not been canceled. tongue either you’re strong, and you break everyone for yourself ... or they break you.
  • vvvvv
    vvvvv 22 October 2013 07: 43
    0
    People like you can make a real contribution, even if you put it between the eyes ... I approve.
  • GDP
    GDP 22 October 2013 09: 54
    +2
    I agree that inciting ethnic hatred is a sabotage against Russia, but the places where you live are not the whole of Russia. There are Regions in Russia where the patience of the people is already on the verge and if the State doesn’t do anything, ethnic cleansing may begin against the Caucasians, because it’s already boiling up and the people don’t see that the local authorities are somehow able to rectify the situation ...
    The thugs and normal Caucasians (who also have) and Russian, but not in your country, but in the Caucasus will also fall under attack ...
    1. vvvvv
      vvvvv 22 October 2013 12: 21
      0
      That's right, but ...
      Take the analogy: Russia is the human body. The abscesses jumped on it - we will cut them out and we will treat the sore spot. We will not begin to cut those areas where there are no problems ?! Indeed, in healthy areas, we can thereby provoke infection. It is necessary to treat, and not cut off, not to make worse!
      In the whole sense of all the comments I want to say just that and nothing more!
      The country's disease should be approached like a person. And it is necessary to stop the spread of "folk recipes" in the form of "treatment" by further aggravation, cutting off pieces of the body along with abscesses - the separation of the regions of Russia, to which the rhetoric of many leads!
  • Anubis Gorynych
    Anubis Gorynych 22 October 2013 11: 23
    +1
    A picket in support of the RAS was held a couple of weeks ago in the glorious Siberian city of Barnaul. One of the organizers is the head. Department of Philosophy Polytechnic tells me: "Our people believe Putin, but he must leave."
    And who will come instead?
    Yes, no one. A liberoid will come, which people will hate.
    Do you understand what this will lead to !?
    To revolution and civil war!
    So, after all, the country will wash itself with blood, and the intervention will begin!
    And THIS IS INEVITABLE. NO OTHER CHOICE.
    This nonsense is not just teaching students. He is a professor at a higher education institution! Sometimes you think: be in my place a shaven-headed scumbag, how I would amuse my fist! It only stops that this is a systemic problem and it must be solved at the highest priorities of managing people, although it will not hurt at the sixth priority either. In Soviet times, there was a saying in the army: "One blow to the head replaces one hundred hours of political conversation."
    1. Fox
      Fox 22 October 2013 12: 44
      +1
      Answer please,

      WHY IN THE COUNTRY "RUSSIA" NO MORE MAN REMAIN,
      Who is able to save her from the civil war?
  • Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 22 October 2013 00: 09
    +3
    Quote: vvvvv
    The goals are simple - to remove nationally oriented authorities and parts of the elites in Russia


    And who exactly are the "authorities" and parts of the elites ??
  • war
    war 21 October 2013 19: 46
    10
    Write nonsense excellent. Thank you, I had a good laugh. Especially here on this:

    Russia does not surrender Syria - in response to Biryulyovo.

    Russia pursues an independent policy - in response to the terrorist attacks.
    1. builder
      builder 22 October 2013 00: 06
      +2
      Write nonsense excellent. Thank you, I had a good laugh. Especially here on this:

      "SAUDI ARABIA: WE ARE CONTROL CHECHEN Militants
      No less interesting is the veiled whip in statements by the representative of the Saudi authorities.
      Bin Sultan said that "he guarantees the safety of the Sochi Winter Olympics next year." “Groups of Chechen fighters who express various threats to the Olympic Games are under our control,” he admitted.
      Thus, the representative of Saudi Arabia actually made it clear that he does not rule out problems with the safety of the games if Russia's position on Syria does not change. “Saudi Arabia covertly threatens Moscow with terrorist attacks at the Olympics
      28.08.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX. VestiFinance
  • dizelniy
    dizelniy 21 October 2013 20: 41
    0
    All you say is right, plus, but what?
  • randomizer
    randomizer 22 October 2013 01: 26
    +3
    So let's go and explain all this to Caucasians and Asians. That they are a tool. The Czechs, too, during the first and second Chechens were weapons against Russia? Or did they rip apart piece by piece while the politicians danced around? The point is that the interests of the "tools" coincide with the interests of the employer. And in this bundle it is not clear who else is in charge! The enemy is the enemy, no matter how he dresses up!
  • pahom54
    pahom54 22 October 2013 09: 34
    0
    I quote: “Russia creates a Customs Union - in response, the train derailed.

    Russia does not surrender Syria - in response to Biryulyovo.

    Russia pursues an independent policy - in response to the terrorist attacks.

    They cannot attack Russia themselves. They provoke an internal Russian conflict. "
    Do not forget that Russia is preparing to host the Olympics ... And something tells me that this intimidation explosion is only "mental" preparation.
    Yesterday, we talked about the FSB’s attempts to bring the Internet under control ... Yes, no matter how unpleasant, however, at this stage this is a necessary matter, as many terrorists decide their affairs via the Internet, considering themselves elusive ...
    However, I would like to ask a question to the leadership of the FSB: I DON’T BELIEVE I do not believe such a powerful organization where the feet of these attacks come from !!! Otherwise, if you don’t know, then on kh.rena such money is being ruined for your organization ??? Gentlemen-boyars-deputies do not allow their business to be done, their hands are tied up - create an organization like a certain White arrow, about which there were a lot of myths at one time, and start firing ... You will take (take away) the money from the same terrorists to maintain this organization and drug lords. The people will sing odes to you, and if you are afraid of court and prison, do the same with the judges and boyars paid.
    And do not shout to anyone about the violation of the Constitution. Here is a striking example - an explosion in Volgograd! So in the fight against terrorism, no constitutional methods will help!
  • Warrawar
    Warrawar 21 October 2013 18: 57
    -3
    Quote: SAG
    The trademark Insolent Saxon underscore who sleep and see Russia in chaos

    This is the signature Saudi or Ayatola Khamenei style. The Anglo-Saxons are not here.
    1. Ivan_Ivanov
      Ivan_Ivanov 21 October 2013 19: 02
      13
      Quote: SAG
      The trademark Insolent Saxon underscore who sleep and see Russia in chaos

      This is the signature Saudi or Ayatola Khamenei style. The Anglo-Saxons are not here.


      The entire Middle East Air Force department went to work in Al Jazeera. Well, yes .. nothing to do with it, how ...
    2. vvvvv
      vvvvv 21 October 2013 19: 17
      +2
      You are very true in saying this, I also think this is primarily the case, but the Saudis are closely cooperating with the special services, it’s clear who and hardly do anything without approval. “Even in Afghanistan, I read, the US is trying to establish cooperation with the Taliban, and not with the current authorities of Afghanistan. So, they will try to drive there through Central Asia. So?!
    3. Onyx
      Onyx 21 October 2013 19: 34
      +6
      Quote: Warrawar
      This is the signature Saudi or Ayatola Khamenei style. The Anglo-Saxons are not here.

      Does Iran and Khamenei have anything to do with it, then? Well you give!
      1. alexng
        alexng 21 October 2013 20: 53
        0
        And people like him need crayons for cockroaches in the head or surgery. It seems like it ultimately helps.
    4. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 19: 44
      12
      Do you know that Iranians are Shiites?
      Do you know that they do not support radical Islamists?

      Do you know that all Wahhabis come from Sunni branches of religion?
      1. Onyx
        Onyx 21 October 2013 20: 28
        +1
        Quote: DanaF1
        Do you know that Iranians are Shiites?
        Do you know that they do not support radical Islamists?

        Do you know that all Wahhabis come from Sunni branches of religion?

        If this is all to me, then I just wrote that Iran has nothing to do with it
        1. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 20: 43
          0
          and this comment was intended by Warravar ...

          what are you all projecting onto yourself?
          1. Onyx
            Onyx 21 October 2013 21: 02
            0
            Quote: DanaF1
            and this comment was intended by Warravar ...

            what are you all projecting onto yourself?

            It’s just that your comments went right under mine and you won’t determine who they are addressed to, because you don’t quote
            1. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 21: 48
              -1
              if they go exactly under yours, it means that I answered the same to whom you too ...
              if my comment on yours is shifted to the right, then I answer you ...
              1. Normal
                Normal 22 October 2013 00: 10
                +1
                Quote: DanaF1
                if they go exactly under yours, it means that I answered the same to whom you too ...

                To avoid confusion and misunderstanding, it is enough to quote an opponent (there is a dice under each post) or indicate a nickname.
      2. alone
        alone 21 October 2013 21: 35
        +5
        and you are generally aware that those who do this do not consider themselves not Sunnis, not Shiites. They consider themselves Salafis-jihadists.
        1. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 22: 15
          +3
          generally in the know, only most of them came from the Sunni sect ...
          1. alone
            alone 21 October 2013 22: 57
            +6
            Recently, there are too many different trash. Yes, and they also do not consider the Sunnis as Muslims. They generally do not consider anyone else as Muslims and call everyone apostates. "corrupt")) well, in one word, they are crazy
            1. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 23: 07
              +2
              well this is normal behavior for followers of a totalitarian sect ...

              in general, they differ from Aum Senrik or Jehovah’s only in quantity ...
              1. alone
                alone 21 October 2013 23: 13
                +3
                Well, yes. there are many. and the most interesting is that the Wahhabis were created by British intelligence. Having found themselves in Arabia under various pretexts, they found that Arabia has huge oil reserves. At that time, Arabia was the territory of the Ottoman Empire. By the way, the first peninsula took the whole peninsula thanks to the Wahhabis. who rebelled and sided with the British. Remember the Lawrence of Arabia?
              2. Danafxnumx
                Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 23: 42
                +1
                The Big Game never stops ...
  • 31231
    31231 21 October 2013 18: 57
    -1
    The trademark Insolent Saxon underscore who sleep and see Russia in chaos


    I'd rather limit myself to the Saudi and Qatari trail. These creatures and more money and have a tooth for Syria.
    1. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 19: 47
      -4
      Don't you think that there is something missing for a certain "handwriting"?
      nevertheless, one does not have to go into conspiracy theories ...

      most likely - it was the personal initiative of her husband ...
      1. 31231
        31231 21 October 2013 19: 58
        +1
        Well, tell me about amateur performances ?! How to get an electric detonator, a sensitive explosive, to an ordinary non-Russian, to think in electrical circuits for connecting the necessary volts to the ED. Tell me ?!
        1. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 20: 02
          +2
          oh well, all this can be obtained, not legally, of course, but for this you do not need to be not Qatari, not a Saudi ...
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 21 October 2013 20: 22
          +4
          Quote: 31231
          sensitive explosive
          Explosive is easily made from ammonium nitrate (fertilizer), the rest of the scheme is on the Internet.
          1. 31231
            31231 21 October 2013 20: 50
            +1
            Well, tell me if you are ?! Immediately I say that it is an industrial detonator. You can get saltpeter. What's next?! Do you rub the powder ?! Well try, try. Find an electric detonator only for experiments.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 21 October 2013 21: 12
              +3
              Quote: 31231
              Well tell me if you are me ?! Immediately I say that it is an industrial detonator. You can get saltpeter. What's next?! Do you rub the powder ?! well try try

              Saltpeter, powder, coal and sugar. Or ANFO.

              Further, I think, we will not discuss. Although the detonator is also the more problematic part, but, you see, it also does not require superpowers.
              1. 31231
                31231 22 October 2013 00: 09
                +1
                Eugene, ANFO - ammonium nitrate fuels oxygen. In Russia, this is called diesel fuel with saltpeter. Then I think it’s not worth explaining where you saw powdered sugar and coal dust here ?! To ED is an absolutely insensitive mixture. Gram 200 of the intermediate action movie will work, but not from the electric detonator. At what it is desirable that porous nitrate would be. But it’s not easy to get it, unlike ordinary nitrate.
                The Austrian founder comes to one object. Shows video. Just ANFO. I already knew then about this "fabulous mixture". I watch all the videos, draw conclusions. I ask him: Do you know our mentality and our regulations ?! He has no understanding. He thinks that we, like theirs, can scatter VMs without supervision on the explosive block for several days. About their super explosives, I already said nothing.
              2. Pimply
                Pimply 22 October 2013 00: 18
                +1
                Quote: 31231
                Eugene, ANFO - ammonium nitrate fuel oxygen. In Russia, this is called diesel fuel with saltpeter.

                I know. I wrote OR, right? But you must admit, VV, especially having textbooks on explosive engineering or access to inteu, is not so difficult to do. On a initiator - yes, more difficult. But such a radical problem? Yes, it will not be as reliable as industrial. AND?
              3. 31231
                31231 22 October 2013 00: 41
                0
                I think that there was just UZRGM and a little plastid, well, the main thing was mixed from saltpeter and something else. Himself in the 90s in the army, I almost didn’t sign up for this.
        3. alone
          alone 21 October 2013 21: 37
          +1
          Quote: 31231
          Well, tell me if you are ?! Immediately I say that it is an industrial detonator. You can get saltpeter. What's next?! Do you rub the powder ?! Well try, try. Find an electric detonator only for experiments.


          well versed in this matter.
        4. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 21: 50
          +1
          an electric detonator can be done by downloading a circuit from the Internet ...
          1. 31231
            31231 22 October 2013 00: 14
            0
            Bgggg. Madam, do not dare me. Read the incandescent bridge for ED. And find Aziz Skintz and other VMs sensitive to this bridge. Then we'll talk.
          2. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 22 October 2013 00: 48
            +1
            that is, you want to say that all, absolutely all the explosions in the world were prepared by intelligence officers?
          3. Misantrop
            Misantrop 22 October 2013 01: 13
            +3
            Quote: DanaF1
            everything, absolutely all the explosions in the world were prepared by the special services?
            Or at least oversaw the training of instructors. I have a Terrorist Cookbook, even in paper form. He himself is not very strong in mine explosives, so he consulted with the pros. According to them, the only thing that can be done with a guarantee using this "textbook" is to blow yourself up when you try to make something. And most of the advice is generally outright bullshit. The vast majority of advice from the Internet - the same plan. You can, of course, find real recipes, BUT ONLY if you know exactly what you are looking for and how it should sound. Otherwise, in that mountain of garbage, it is simply not realistic to calculate what you need. So all these sabotage training camps are set up, prepared, and then also controlled (otherwise, a heap of errors and inaccuracies inevitably accumulates gradually) by the acting employees of serious organizations interested in this request Whose and whose submission is another question
          4. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 22 October 2013 01: 24
            +1
            so I do not argue that they could be prepared by professionals ... or people who were trained by professionals ...

            but to say that a layman with a minimum of knowledge cannot do this is at least not reasonable ...

            of all the explosions in the Middle East or Africa, at least half are prepared by people who, in terms of intelligence, have not gone far from baboons ... but this does not mean that they cannot study and repeat certain manipulations ...
          5. Alex 241
            Alex 241 22 October 2013 01: 29
            +2
            Without certain knowledge, provided that you have an industrial, and not a makeshift explosive, detonator, you can’t even ignite a fireproof cord.
          6. 31231
            31231 22 October 2013 02: 27
            0
            Flameproof blasting in Russia is not used 99,99%. Essentially prohibited. Rostechnadzor. And rightly so.
  • chehywed
    chehywed 21 October 2013 20: 56
    0
    Quote: 31231
    Well, tell me about amateur performances ?! How to get an electric detonator, a sensitive explosive, to an ordinary non-Russian, to think in electrical circuits for connecting the necessary volts to the ED. Tell me ?!

    Good evening Sergey. The fact of the matter is that her husband is Russian, a Muscovite.
    "Information is being verified that the self-detonation could have been committed by Naida Asiyalova, the wife of Moscow resident Dmitry Sokolov. According to operational data, they studied together at one of the Moscow universities, she recruited him, Sokolov moved to Dagestan and went underground. Now he is wanted as a member of the Makhachkala gang.", - said the interlocutor of the agency.

    See the original material at http://www.interfax.ru/russia/txt.asp?id=336020
    1. 31231
      31231 21 October 2013 21: 25
      0
      Well this doesn’t really change the matter. If now access to the VM is not regulated by ATS, then a year ago it was still felt. And the Volgodonya region is not full of blasting. If she brought it, then from far away. And there, of course, any roots of origin can be. And the biggest problem is the electric detonator. A piece of thing and not every explosive will risk it. Because they mark him and catch who the detonator with him will receive a minimum condition. Although much is possible in Russia. We are not perfect people.
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  • vlad0
    vlad0 21 October 2013 19: 11
    +6
    It is clear that this is not just! Behind terrorism are certain circles in the West and in Saudi Arabia. Terrorism is a very lucrative business. And we are told that terrorism is without nationality and without religion. But explain to the Russian man, why are all terrorists Muslims and, as a rule, immigrants from the Caucasus? For some reason, I have not heard about Christian, Buddhist or Jewish terrorist groups over the past 30 years.
    And most importantly, all the recent major terrorist attacks were committed by the widows, mistresses and sisters of the destroyed or wanted militants of the IAF. Probably, it is time to draw conclusions - a militant (or destroyed) has been identified, all of his relatives in a special settlement under supervision, and their property confiscated in favor of victims of terrorism.
    As long as our leadership in such cases will dissuade itself with cliched phrases about "inadmissibility of hasty conclusions" and "tolerance", without changing legislation and radically eliminating the root causes of this phenomenon, we will still live in anticipation of a new explosion.
    PS It's been half a day, but where is the assessment of the situation by our first persons ???
    1. Misantrop
      Misantrop 21 October 2013 19: 25
      +6
      Quote: vlad0
      Half a day has passed, and where is the assessment of the situation by our first persons ???
      The appraiser is waiting
      1. morpex
        morpex 21 October 2013 19: 48
        +7
        Quote: Misantrop
        The appraiser is waiting

        The appraiser will come and say something like "mochilov in the toilets" and that's all and will be limited. Well, how many guys can you? Well, it is necessary to take some measures. There is a hotbed of this filth. And it must be localized. And it turns out that it is beneficial for some of those in power.
        To the dead and their families my sincere condolences. The wounded a speedy recovery.
        1. Viking
          Viking 21 October 2013 22: 09
          +3
          Quote: morpex
          There is a hotbed of this Nasty thing. And it must be localized.

          And where exactly is this "hearth", if not a secret? And how do you personally propose to "localize" it? Point by point it is desirable ...
    2. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 21 October 2013 19: 38
      -7
      Quote: vlad0
      Behind terrorism are certain circles in the West and in Saudi Arabia. Terrorism is a very lucrative business.

      If terrorism is a profitable business, then why must the West be behind it - "our own" cannot?

      PS It's been half a day, but where is the assessment of the situation by our first persons ???
    3. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 19: 48
      0
      what grade do you want?
    4. Volkhov
      Volkhov 21 October 2013 21: 30
      0
      Quote: vlad0
      PS It's been half a day, but where is the assessment of the situation by our first persons ???

      In the morning I went in a black tie - always ready.
    5. 4952915
      4952915 22 October 2013 07: 15
      0
      Jews do not need terrorists, they have a terrorist state)))
  • Polovec
    Polovec 21 October 2013 22: 43
    +1
    We want - we don’t want, but it's time to wake up!
  • Normal
    Normal 21 October 2013 22: 51
    +7
    Quote: SAG
    There are no objective prerequisites for a terrorist attack in Volgograd.

    Here is another example that confirms this statement.
    Quote: Ivan_Ivanov

    Among any people there are mentally ill and just id .. you

    Does it mean that "objective prerequisites" are needed for a terrorist attack? Is the desire of the Islamists to establish their own rules and dictate their will to others, are they "objective prerequisites"?
    Quote: SAG
    The purpose of this action I consider the aggravation of ethnic hatred against the background of riots in Biryulev. All these are links of one chain.

    So Orkhan Zeynalov also acted with the aim of exacerbating ethnic hatred and on the instructions of the Insolent Saxons?
    Quote: SAG
    The ultimate goal is to foment a civil war in Russia.

    Who is the loudest shouting "Stop the thief!" has long been known.
    There were no prerequisites and reasons for a civil war in Russia. Even the Russian genocide in Chechnya and the colossal stratification of society in the rest of Russia did not lead to a civil war. Well, why should not the Russian fight with the Russian.
    And over the past few years, 11 (according to official data only) migrants hostile to the indigenous population of Russia have been sent into the country. They are actively granted citizenship. Let's add here migration from the Caucasus, which is not included in this number. If we do not forget that this contingent feels like the winner of the Russians (the massacre of Russians in Chechnya and the expulsion of Russians from Central Asia) and believes that the territory they entered was given to them by Allah, then we must understand that these are the very "citizens" who are called unleash a civil war.
    All calls not to succumb to provocations, all talk about the friendship of peoples, all attempts to convince us that foreigners are good, and that we are bad, we are Russian nationalists, are called to lull our minds. Prevent Russians from realizing the extent of the threat. Do not allow the titular nation to begin the necessary cleansing and treatment of the seriously ill organism of the state. All this suggests that it is not too late, that the enemies are not ready yet, there are still too few of them. When there are enough newly converted "citizens", under the leadership of the Caucasians, they will move from words to deeds. Then the CIVIL WAR will begin.
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  • POCC
    POCC 22 October 2013 00: 01
    0
    Agree am In need of them soldier
  • Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer 22 October 2013 00: 55
    +3
    Well, yes, I just want to ask the FSB a question. Why, once again, the wife (widow, sister), even for the fifth time, is being blown up with people. Why the FSB did not register these women for operational accounting. Why they have not been established behind the scenes and they freely walk around with explosives. These ladies are known by name, the passport of this suicide bomber was shown on TV an hour after the attack. And no need to respect human rights, when the FSB wants it, they can.
  • randomizer
    randomizer 22 October 2013 01: 19
    +6
    And how did you build the Russian Empire at one time? On ethnic and international hugs? Ermak came to Siberia - he once a hat to the kingdom? There was tough power! Gave slack to the Caucasus - eat! Only the unification of Russia on the basis of the Russian people and uniform laws! This is not a notion, but a tormented historical reality! While we will not squeeze the trash to the nail, we will fuss - they will blow us up! I agree with you, everything is correct.
  • Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 22 October 2013 03: 42
    +4
    An objective prerequisite for a terrorist attack can only be a guerrilla war behind enemy lines, but when people with brain twists blow up civilians, including children, women are not people! brains are bursting with rage: one half is shouting "urine of animals" the other understands that this is possible a provocation, and the goal is to push our country into the chaos of a civil war. Volgograd residents! country with you!
  • Anubis Gorynych
    Anubis Gorynych 22 October 2013 09: 33
    +2
    one phrase: "This woman's documents were found near the explosion site" reminded me of September 11, when the documents of the suicide pilots were "found" after the explosion of the Twin Towers in the United States. I recommend everyone to look at http://conceptual.rf/kontseptualnye-itogi-nedeli-vypusk-2
  • Rusich51
    Rusich51 22 October 2013 17: 58
    0
    SAG, after our political successes in Syria - a terrorist attack. A clear trace of amers with Israel. soldier
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    1. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 21 October 2013 18: 30
      13
      Ivan, you are absolutely right, everyone understands this. The Bolotnykhs have been merged, now they are playing a map of interethnic conflicts. BUT why does not he say "Tatars, Chukchi, Paraguayans, etc., burn in hell"? It's just that among those peoples, the percentage of thugs is equal to the percentage of normal Caucasians. Therefore, only the most severe restrictions for them.

      And here proklemvskie tolerasts drew? What does the swamp have to do with it? In the media every day, news on 5-6 per day: the monkeys killed, beaten, raped, desecrated the monument ... These are not tricks of the State Department. it feature of the people.
      And do not tell me that there are good Caucasians. There is. 1 of 10 on average. I know what I'm talking about, because I served with them. Xnumx normal on 10 I’ll kill ... Cove!!!
      1. Ivan_Ivanov
        Ivan_Ivanov 21 October 2013 18: 50
        +8
        In America - default is brewing. In Russia - terrorist attacks.

        Direct connection.


        But Caucasians are used only because they, with their rudeness, very strongly opposed those around them, and therefore became an instrument and victims of provocateurs - instigators of the conflict.
      2. 31231
        31231 21 October 2013 19: 00
        +4
        There is. 1 out of 10 on average. I know what I'm talking about, because I served with them. 1 normal for 10 I will remove ... kov !!!


        I tried to give them change ?! Or do you think they are immortal ?!

        1. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 19: 51
          0
          exactly...
          they are all bold until they receive on the face ...
      3. Onyx
        Onyx 21 October 2013 19: 37
        -10 qualifying.
        Quote: Kibalchish
        There is. 1 out of 10 on average. I know what I'm talking about, because I served with them. 1 normal for 10 I will remove ... kov !!!

        And here the State Department sixes drew themselves. Where did you serve there?
        1. New Russia
          New Russia 21 October 2013 20: 02
          +2
          "And here are the sixes of the State Department." 55% of the population hating Caucasians and Asians GosDepovskie shhesterki, I congratulate you, further more)
          1. Onyx
            Onyx 21 October 2013 20: 18
            0
            55% of the population who hate Caucasians and Asians State Depot sisters, I congratulate you, more more) [/ quote]
            You were mistaken, not 55%, but 55,45%
            1. New Russia
              New Russia 21 October 2013 20: 22
              0
              Ummm) Is this sarcasm?)
              1. Onyx
                Onyx 21 October 2013 20: 33
                0
                Quote: New Russia
                Ummm) Is this sarcasm?)

                No way. I have the gift of determining the exact number of percent of Russian citizens who hate Caucasians. I do it more accurately than you.
                1. New Russia
                  New Russia 21 October 2013 20: 44
                  +1
                  I operate with official statistics, your dreams of a united nation is certainly good, but ...)
                2. Onyx
                  Onyx 21 October 2013 20: 59
                  +2
                  Quote: New Russia
                  I operate with official statistics, your dreams of a united nation is certainly good, but ...)

                  And who compiled these statistics? Foreign agent Levada Center?
                3. New Russia
                  New Russia 21 October 2013 21: 06
                  +4
                  The fact that you do not believe in these statistics only speaks of your naivety, go outside and ask about the attitude of people towards Caucasians, you will get 90%.
                  "Foreign Agent Levada Center?" Well, when they drew 66% to Putin before the elections, they were fine fellows and not foreign agents, and they received this idiotic status after the publication of the rating that 72% of the population consider a revolution to be possible if the government does not change course. By the way, almost all the deputies from EdRa have real estate and property abroad, do you think they are not foreign agents?
                4. Onyx
                  Onyx 21 October 2013 21: 33
                  +3
                  Quote: New Russia
                  The fact that you do not believe in these statistics only speaks of your naivety, go outside and ask about the attitude of people towards Caucasians, get 90%

                  The fact that I don’t believe the nonsense called “statistics” says anything but naivety. A foreign agent is when an organization receives money from abroad. Levada is one of those.
                  Quote: New Russia
                  By the way, almost all deputies from EdRa have real estate and property abroad, do you think they are not foreign agents?

                  Someone - yes - an agent of foreign influence, someone, maybe not, I do not have reliable data. Therefore, I will not speak.
                5. Ruslan67
                  Ruslan67 22 October 2013 01: 45
                  +1
                  Quote: New Russia
                  go out and ask about the attitude of people towards Caucasians, get 90%.

                  Count in the face as an answer?
    2. 31231
      31231 21 October 2013 21: 33
      +6
      Suns, I served, we had Caucasians. In the battalion, the Ingush, Ossetians, Kabardins and other quiet Caucasians. They behaved modestly because of the small number of companies in the company and disunity. In the military town there was a dime a dozen dugs (Lezgins, Czechs) and Ingush. Those who served in this category were calm and balanced. But the young people who were just entering the town were aggressive. And constantly stumbled upon the fists and boots of our battalion.
      Now he has twice worked with organizations where engineers and managers are Dagi and Czechs. Adults and decent people. Not a hint of Islam and "head banging on the floor."
  • morpex
    morpex 21 October 2013 19: 55
    +2
    Quote: Kibalchish
    1 normal on 10 I will remove ... kov !!!

    This is in the best case. If there are 10 in the heap-ub ... that's all. If there is one among the Slavs then a tame monkey.
  • Russ69
    Russ69 21 October 2013 21: 50
    +6
    Quote: Kibalchish
    I know what I'm talking about, because I served with them. 1 normal for 10 I will remove ... kov !!!

    I also served Che, there were no problems ...
    Media every day 5-6 news a day: the monkeys were killed, beaten, raped, desecrated the monument ... This is not the tricks of the State Department. This is a feature of the people.

    I wondered why only they write about them?
  • Viking
    Viking 21 October 2013 22: 16
    +1
    Quote: Kibalchish
    What does the swamp have to do with it?

    In the swamp. laughing
    Quote: Kibalchish
    This is a feature of the people.
    And do not tell me that there are good Caucasians. There is. 1 out of 10 on average. I know what I'm talking about, because I served with them. 1 normal for 10 I will remove ... kov !!!

    Well yes. And then what? Suggestions, preferably not at the kindergarten level — to expel everyone (I will remind you of the citizens of the Russian Federation), close the border, and then we’ll live.
    1. Normal
      Normal 22 October 2013 00: 28
      +4
      Quote: Viking
      Suggestions, preferably not at the kindergarten level -

      Some 200 Russians once lived in Chechnya. The disappearance of most of them is your kindergarten? Or maybe 000 million migrants in Russia (11st place in the number of migrants in the world) is a kindergarten?
      Quote: Viking
      In the swamp.

      But this is exactly a kindergarten - pants on a strap.
      1. builder
        builder 22 October 2013 00: 40
        0
        In the USA, 35 mil.-1 place
        1. Normal
          Normal 22 October 2013 01: 17
          +3
          Quote: stroitel
          In the USA, 35 mil.-1 place

          In my opinion in the United States more.
          The UN estimates that the first place is occupied by the United States, in whose territory there are simultaneously 45,8 million migrants. In third place is Germany with 9,8 million people. Next come Saudi Arabia (9,1), Great Britain (7,8), France (7,4), Canada (7,3), Australia (6,5) and Spain (6,5 million).

          www.rg.ru/2013/09/12/migranty-site.html

          But the US does not count. This is a country where the entire population of migrants or descendants of migrants. The indigenous population of the United States lives mainly on reserves and dies safely from excessive consumption of fire water.

          Do we want the same? We want to reserve, and give the country to the Caucasians and Asians? Now there are more than 11 lyamas. The same number will arrive tomorrow. After tomorrow, taking into account their and our demographics, the number of newcomers and the indigenous population will be comparable. The slightest conflict and get a civil war. Which side will the West, South and East be on, I hope it is not necessary to explain?
          Well, then - please shave. The Pskov, Kostroma, Vologda and Arkhangelsk provinces are quite suitable in terms of climate and area for the surviving Russian Indians.
          1. builder
            builder 22 October 2013 01: 28
            +2
            Now there are more than 11 lyamas.
            I think twice as much.
  • Ivan_Ivanov
    Ivan_Ivanov 21 October 2013 18: 37
    +5
    Thank. And yes. Education, sometimes by the very same methods, must be conducted.
  • silver_roman
    silver_roman 21 October 2013 18: 44
    +3
    practically repeated my thought. I agree with you!
  • alone
    alone 21 October 2013 21: 40
    +4
    Quote: Mitek
    Ivan, you are absolutely right, everyone understands this. Bolotnykh were merged, now they are playing the card of interethnic conflicts. BUT why does no one say "Tatars, Chukchi, Paraguayans, etc., burn in hell"? It's just that among those peoples, the percentage of thugs is equal to the percentage of normal Caucasians. Therefore, only the most severe restrictions for them.


    these creatures are not Caucasians, not Buryats, neither Russian nor Paraguayans. these creatures do not recognize national accessories. These creatures must be destroyed on the spot.
  • Viking
    Viking 21 October 2013 22: 13
    0
    Quote: Mitek
    Not hiding them and not hiding them at all, but tough f .... to black for everything that they do bad.

    Whom do you understand by "blackness"? Russian citizens living in the republics of the North Caucasus? To declare them outlawed in the rest of Russia? Then we will get such explosions at the very least - every week. And I want to remind you that the suicide bomber's husband is Russian, from Moscow.
    1. Normal
      Normal 22 October 2013 00: 32
      +1
      Quote: Viking
      To declare them outlawed in the rest of Russia? Then we will get such explosions at the very least - every week

      If this is not done, then we will get not only explosions (explosions are so - "flowers"), but a real massacre of the Russian population. And much earlier than you think.
  • Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 21 October 2013 18: 27
    +7
    Ivan_Ivanov UA

    Comrade, friend, colleague, brother, matchmaker, etc.
    Your speeches are too, sorry, naive. These are the words .. In fact ... were there your relatives in this bus? Not? Thank God !!!
    Try on a tragedy and read your comment again ... Is there anything to add?
    1. Ivan_Ivanov
      Ivan_Ivanov 21 October 2013 18: 35
      +1
      Divide and conquer. Do you work for them?

      I have no less relatives in Russia than in Ukraine. From Smolensk to Vladivostok.

      And you, where are your relatives?
      1. Samsebenaum
        Samsebenaum 21 October 2013 20: 31
        +2
        Ivan_Ivanov
        I did not understand what you wanted to say ..
        Information is personally for you.
        My parents are from Zaporizhzhya Cossacks. Mom from Zaporozhye, Old Man from Dnepropetrovsk.
        And my last name is Ukrainian ...
        And my relatives here and there.
        I myself was born and live in the glorious and proud city of Smolensk.
        It just so happened.
        Now how do we find a common language?
    2. 31231
      31231 21 October 2013 19: 10
      +7
      And what did he say that ?! That the puppeteers blew up the zombies on the bus ?! Or was there a bright representative of an adequate person and the same adequate people controlled her ?!
      Do not tell me why since 2006 the number of victims of terrorist attacks has sharply decreased, but now it will increase ?!
      We need to get stronger. Saudi and Qatari money will now work out with us. And God forbid the cops will increase the staff of dogs.
      1. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 19: 54
        +1
        the number of terrorist attacks is increasing, because the underground gang is pressed ...

        I want to draw attention to the fact that if this attack were sponsored by Qatari or Saudis, then there would be more victims and the consequences would be worse ...

        and so, the explosion was not of great strength, not even the grenades on the body of the suicide bomber detonated ...
        1. 31231
          31231 21 October 2013 20: 59
          0
          Do you have much experience in forensics ?! My opinion is that all the same, a martyr, not a car, you can’t poke a lot. And a lot of explosives are not easy to get. Tea is not 90 in the yard.
          And what, the Saudis or the Qatari set out to destroy the Russian people ?! All the same goals and attempts at political pressure on the issues he required.
          1. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 21: 05
            +1
            I draw a conclusion based on the available data ...
            from them it follows that the amount of explosives did not exceed 300 g. in TNT equivalent ...
            agree - this is not much ...

            on what issues can I push with the exploded bus?
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 21 October 2013 21: 12
              0
              Quote: DanaF1
              the amount of explosives did not exceed 300 gr. in TNT equivalent ...
              agree - this is not much ...

              It depends on which side to look. 300 gr TNT is contained in five F-1 grenades.
              1. Danafxnumx
                Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 21: 51
                +1
                the thing is how the wave propagates ...

                but the fact that the grenades weren’t detonated suggests that it’s some kind of strange explosion ... the grenades should have been detonated in any way ...
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 21 October 2013 21: 54
                  0
                  Quote: DanaF1
                  the grenades should have been detonated in any way ...

                  Not necessary. In these homemade products, the main charge is often not completely detonated.
                2. Danafxnumx
                  Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 22: 00
                  0
                  maybe ... it's hard for me to judge ...
                  however, it still seems strange to me ...
              2. 31231
                31231 22 October 2013 00: 52
                0
                but the fact that not with detonated grenades suggests

                that the "trees" designed it all. I will not now chew all the subtleties of detonation here, you never know what, but it depends on many factors.
          2. Garrin
            Garrin 21 October 2013 21: 32
            +4
            Quote: DanaF1
            from them it follows that the amount of explosives did not exceed 300 g. in TNT equivalent ...
            agree - this is not much ...

            For a closed volume of a bus, moreover, at "rush hour", and, moreover, filled with striking elements, this is VERY MUCH.

            Quote: DanaF1
            on what issues can I push with the exploded bus?

            And you have not considered such a question as to sow panic and fear among ordinary citizens?
            1. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 21: 54
              +2
              For a closed volume of a bus, moreover, at "rush hour", and, moreover, filled with striking elements, this is VERY MUCH.


              in this case there are too few victims - that means there were no destructive elements ...

              And you have not considered such a question as to sow panic and fear among ordinary citizens?


              and when did it work for us?
              I personally remember the panic 1 the only time - when they blew up houses ...
              believe the resident of Moscow, in which more than one terrorist attack happened, there is no panic - only deaf discontent ...
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 21 October 2013 22: 04
                0
                Quote: DanaF1
                in this case, too few victims
                Girl do not write nonsense!
                18:20. The list of victims of the explosion in the bus, hospitalized in the 15th city hospital of Volgograd, has been published. In total, 27 people are being treated, including two children: one year old and four years old. 18 people are in serious condition. The eight most severely injured are in intensive care. The dead are six people. 18:33. Now there are 6 people dead, not counting the woman who blasted, the number of victims increased to 33. "The victims have mine and explosive injuries, wounds with fragments - these are glass fragments, fragments of the bus itself," RIA Novosti was told in the Ministry of Health.
              2. Alex 241
                Alex 241 21 October 2013 22: 05
                0
                http://www.rg.ru/2013/10/21/reg-ufo/hronika.html
              3. Danafxnumx
                Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 22: 14
                -2
                I’ll ask you very much not to take my words out of context !!!

                every victim is certainly a tragedy ...

                however, if the explosives were filled with destructive elements, then there would be more victims at times, given the fact that the bus was half-empty and nothing was stopping their expansion ...
              4. Alex 241
                Alex 241 21 October 2013 22: 18
                +1
                Your words are blasphemy in any context! And there is nothing to guess here until the type of IEDs and the type of explosives are unknown.
              5. Danafxnumx
                Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 22: 28
                +1
                all we can do is guess ...
                anyway, we won’t get the full data ...

                as for blasphemy, then you perfectly understood what I meant !!! but they still shook ...
            2. Pimply
              Pimply 21 October 2013 22: 37
              +3
              Quote: DanaF1
              however, if the explosives were filled with destructive elements, then there would be more victims at times, given the fact that the bus was half-empty and nothing was stopping their expansion ...

              With a bus full, the defeat comes at the expense of the blast wave - this is so if you are not in the know. And pieces of bone and debris cause damage no worse than shrapnel.
            3. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 22: 42
              +1
              yes, only the bus had 40 people out of 117 seats ...
              You can’t call it complete ...
            4. Alex 241
              Alex 241 21 October 2013 22: 52
              -1
              Girl, study the theory of the formation of the shock front. This is the first, second, we do not know how the demolition was located in the cabin.
            5. Botanologist
              Botanologist 21 October 2013 23: 12
              0
              Quote: Alex 241
              we don’t know how the demoman was located in the cabin.


              I stood at the back door. Which saved the majority of passengers. The wave, apparently, went through the backs of the seats and could not stand the entire cabin.
            6. Alex 241
              Alex 241 21 October 2013 23: 26
              0
              I looked again at the photos and videos, the main blow was directed to the right, apparently before the detonation I turned to where most of the passengers were.
            7. 31231
              31231 22 October 2013 00: 59
              +2
              Alex, you are a competent military man. But air-blast for a person goes out very quickly. Roughly speaking, grays or grab rails in the immediate vicinity of the suicide bomber could catch their neighbors with their fragments, while the rest were mostly injured.
              In general, I was not in a confined space with an explosion. But the detonating cord, one and a half meters away from me, often "clapped".
            8. Alex 241
              Alex 241 22 October 2013 01: 03
              +1
              Sergey just didn’t want to upload these photos and videos, and go deeper, I think this is a memorial branch, people died. We’ll discuss the technical details elsewhere, and at another time.
            9. 31231
              31231 22 October 2013 02: 32
              +3
              I agree. Land they rest in peace.
  • Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 21 October 2013 22: 39
    0
    Quote: Garrin
    And you have not considered such a question as to sow panic and fear among ordinary citizens?

    Meaning?
    1. builder
      builder 21 October 2013 23: 50
      0
      Aleksey Filatov, vice-president of the International Association of Veterans of the Alfa Anti-Terror Unit, believes that the reasons for the explosion are most likely related to the approaching Sochi Olympics.

      "The bombing with a large number of casualties in a public place is clearly designed to spread panic among the population. The reasons for the attack are most likely associated with the approaching Sochi Olympics. Even during the Boston events, it was clear that as the 2014 Winter Olympics approached, funding terrorists will increase, and attempts to commit terrorist attacks will become more frequent, and on the territory of Russia. Today terrorism is not only and not so much a form of struggle between political and religious views, but a form of unfair competition in the economy. Therefore, it is cheapest for customers to discredit the Sochi 2014 Olympics by financing terrorists. "
  • 31231
    31231 21 October 2013 21: 44
    0
    Personally, the video seemed to me a little more. But no more than a kilogram I agree with you. And the order ?! You yourself understand the bandit underground needs money and on one faith, especially now, they can not survive.
    You don’t want to say what kind of Azerbaijan pro funded it ?! That's bullshit.
    Well, tell me your opinion, who is the sponsor?
    1. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 21: 57
      -2
      the gang underground certainly needs money ... but now it seems that their financing has been suspended - the owners of their problems in bulk ...

      perhaps they decided on a terrorist attack to remind themselves and of the financing ...

      however, everything was so clumsy, even the suicide bomber was immediately recognized that the thought creeps in, that it’s still amateur performances ...
    2. chehywed
      chehywed 21 October 2013 23: 53
      0
      Quote: 31231
      Well, tell me your opinion, who is the sponsor?

      Naida Asiyalova (nickname "Amaturakhman") has not lived in her native village since 2010 of the year. She did not communicate with family and friends who did not share her commitment to Wahhabism, preferring a society of so-called “sisters” who were like-minded. Asiyalova did not have a specific place of residence or work. She constantly changed places of residence, finding in Makhachkala, then in Khasavyurt, then in Kizlyar. Everywhere she came in contact with the widows and wives of the militants. Among them, she enjoyed great authority and even had access to "Jamaat" money raised to support bandits and their family members.
      http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/681923/#ixzz2iO6GpFlz

      And further there:
      In one of the North Caucasian communities on the VKontakte social network, a fundraiser was even organized for the treatment of Asiyalova. It was stated that "she has a disease of the oral cavity, eating of bone tissue, gums, her disease is complicated, pus comes out of wounds, bones weaken, her eyesight worsens."

      Perhaps the money from the common fund, that the money that people sent for her treatment was used, I don't want to think ...
  • Pimply
    Pimply 21 October 2013 21: 19
    +3
    Quote: 31231
    Do you have much experience in forensics ?! My opinion is that all the same, a martyr, not a car, you can’t poke a lot. And a lot of explosives are not easy to get. Tea is not 90 in the yard.

    BB can be obtained quite easily. And making plastid is also not such a problem. Candidates for martyrs are simply an order of magnitude smaller, and competent bombers. They also actively shoot.

    Shaheed Belt according to Israeli experience - within 10kg. Steel or glass balls as a filling.
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 21 October 2013 21: 49
      0
      The attack on a passenger bus in Volgograd on Monday afternoon was staged by a suicide bomber who recently converted to Islam and was the wife of one of the leaders of the gangs. It is reported by Russia Today with reference to the National Anti-Terrorism Committee.
      According to Lifenews, her name is Naida Akhiyalova, she is the wife of Dmitry Sokolov, a Russian demolition man from Dolgoprudny, a native of Dagestan. Documents in her name were found at the scene of the explosion. "The 30-year-old suicide bomber had a serious illness - a bone disease in which a person rots alive," the channel said in a statement.

      This information was confirmed by the official representative of the RF IC Vladimir Markin. "According to the information received by the investigators, this woman got on the bus at one of the stops, and almost immediately after that an explosion thundered. This is confirmed, among other things, by the passenger who survived the explosion," RIA Novosti quoted him as saying.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 21 October 2013 22: 00
        +1
        Quote: Alex 241
        This information was confirmed by the official representative of the RF IC Vladimir Markin. "According to the information received by the investigators, this woman got on the bus at one of the stops, and almost immediately after that an explosion thundered. This is confirmed, among other things, by the passenger who survived the explosion," RIA Novosti quoted him as saying.

        I will always remember the first suicide bomber they took. 17 years old, skinny, such a drisch, antennae only make their way, white T-shirt dirty. Had to explode in Tel Aviv with 10 kg of explosives.
      2. dmitreach
        dmitreach 22 October 2013 08: 23
        0
        Hello Alex. I noticed that again we are talking about "new converts". They probably have stronger motivation.
    2. 31231
      31231 22 October 2013 02: 11
      +1
      And plastid is also not such a problem

      Oh, well, sir! The bearded goose will understand chemistry ?!
      Do you know why nitrocellulose is so not widespread in the explosion?!
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 22 October 2013 04: 25
        0
        Quote: 31231
        Oh, well, sir! The bearded goose will understand chemistry ?!

        Among them there is a sufficient number of highly educated. And in some old textbooks, blasting instructions are more than detailed. It's just usually cheaper and easier to make a bucket.
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 21 October 2013 21: 05
    +1
    And who told you that all the money goes to the direct performers? And there they saw the budget.
    1. alone
      alone 21 October 2013 21: 45
      +4
      Quote: Spade
      And who told you that all the money goes to the direct performers? And there they saw the budget.


      Naturally. Why direct money executor. what is he going to buy in the next world?) are completely right
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 21 October 2013 21: 48
        0
        I see, people simply don’t get it, that terrorism has long been a business.
        1. alone
          alone 21 October 2013 22: 18
          0
          a lot of people don’t understand what, many just need to write something here
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 21 October 2013 22: 00
        0
        Quote: lonely
        Naturally. Why direct money executor. what is he going to buy in the next world?) are completely right

        Providing a family, for example.
        1. alone
          alone 21 October 2013 22: 22
          +2
          Evgeny! I also live relatively close to the region. We also have certain people who also became Wahhabis. I won’t argue about security, but 90% is just talking. The maximum they do is the widow is married to another Wahhabi)) this is the maximum. after no one needs these nippers and they quickly forget about them.
  • Normal
    Normal 22 October 2013 00: 46
    +2
    Quote: 31231
    And what did he say that ?! That the puppeteers blew up the zombies on the bus ?!

    Apparently you, in the performance of professional duties, completely broke your brain and shook your conscience, if you had one at all. Do you even understand what you are writing?
    It’s not the puppeteers who blew up the zombies on the bus (although this may be so for you); this SHAHIDKA MURDER blew up a BUS WITH PEACEFUL PEOPLE, NOTHING BEFORE ISLAMISTS! LOTS OF VICTIMS! FIVE DEAD! CRISIS IN CRITICAL CONDITION!
    And in your head are puppeteers, zombies, Saudi and Qatari money, and a staff of dogs ....


    Zombies, it's you.
  • silver_roman
    silver_roman 21 October 2013 18: 43
    +8
    Among any people there are mentally ill and just id .. you

    but it is precisely the percentage and, finally, the basis of actions that determine the attitude towards the people. I don’t remember something that the Japanese organized terrorist attacks, although there are enough points of mutual understanding and they haven’t fools either. But I understood your thought: do not escalate ... what is the logic!
  • Warrawar
    Warrawar 21 October 2013 18: 55
    +8
    Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
    Among any people there are mentally ill and just id .. you

    The thing is that among some peoples the percentage of idiots and scum is much higher than the average level.

    Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
    And this scum was organized by the filth just for you and many, many others to say so. They want to set you, us on Caucasians.

    Yes, for sure, the US State Department is to blame. Go further, watch the 1st channel.
    1. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx 21 October 2013 19: 58
      +5
      The thing is that among some peoples the percentage of idiots and scum is much higher than the average level.


      it’s not a percentage, but the fact that they have different value orientations ...
      what seems to us to be atrocities, they don’t consider as such ...

      I want to add that this is not treated, only isolation ...
    2. Gato
      Gato 21 October 2013 21: 19
      +2
      Quote: Warrawar
      The thing is that among some peoples the percentage of idiots and scum is much higher than the average level.

      It all depends on the size of the people. In some nations, the percentage just rolls over. The smaller it is, the larger the absolute number.
      In this sense, I agree with DanaF1 /
  • Algor73
    Algor73 21 October 2013 19: 21
    +1
    and the psychic is the same thing. But this is not sick. For them, there is not even a noun - how can one fight a civilian population, completely innocent people ?! For what!! Do not succumb to either understanding or explanation.
  • starshina78
    starshina78 21 October 2013 19: 46
    12
    I don't remember who said: "The terrorist has no nationality!" According to the latest information, this is Naida Akhiyalova, a resident of Makhachkala, who studied in Moscow, where she inclined to terror and married Dmitry Sokolov from Dolgoprudny, accused of murdering one or more persons. Sokolov converted to Islam and took a name - Abdulzhabar, nicknamed "Giraffe", is now hiding in Dagestan. He is a member of the Makhachkala gang, by profession - a demolition (source of information is the newspaper "Trud"). So it's not logical to blame some Caucasians. among them there are Russians, Ukrainians, Moldavians, and many others. they are all the scum of humanity, they have no nationality, they have nothing that could connect them with the human race. Scum !!!
  • Normal
    Normal 21 October 2013 22: 16
    +4
    Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
    Among any people there are mentally ill and just id .. you.

    Undoubtedly, your statement is a confirmation of this:
    They want to set you, us on Caucasians.

    When a dog is set on you and it starts tearing your leg, do not beat the poor dog; let her do her work, she’s not to blame for anything. It's just that someone really wanted to set you on a dog line. Tolerate and do not give in to provocation.
  • obrjak
    obrjak 21 October 2013 22: 48
    +5
    You’ve fallen from the moon .... We don’t have to be set against us anymore, the people have already squeezed the patient as a spring. And the Caucasians themselves did this on the streets of our cities, corrupted by your ... tolerance and impunity. Do not need these liberal snot. Tolerance for Caucasians is an empty phrase. They consider it weakness and cowardice. They have always been our enemies, they are brought up by the old people like that.
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  • Ahmed Osmanov
    Ahmed Osmanov 21 October 2013 18: 17
    +8
    My condolences to the relatives of the victims. The kingdom to them is heaven. crying
    And a special thank you for the "hell".
  • Rus 72
    Rus 72 21 October 2013 19: 02
    +6
    How does your language even turn out to say that ?! The Caucasus is inhabited not only by Wahhabi fanatics! There are Muslims who daily suffer from these degenerates, Georgians and Ossetians, Abkhazians in general, Christians ... why are you cursing them? It’s just the attacks on such limited ones as you’d expect, the organizers are waiting for such statements ...
    1. shpuntik
      shpuntik 22 October 2013 02: 51
      +2
      Rus 72 RU Yesterday, 19:02 ↑
      How does your language even turn out to say that ?! The Caucasus is inhabited not only by Wahhabi fanatics!

      Type on the Internet: how you cleared Chechnya from Russians, you will find a lot of interesting things.
      Did Russian villages remain in the Caucasus there? http://www.dal.by/news/19/04-08-13-18/
  • Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 21 October 2013 19: 10
    16
    Quote: Kibalchish
    I am from the Volgograd region. Brother lives in the city. Now we will call.
    Horror...!

    Before repatriation, I lived opposite Pobeda. Deepest condolences to fellow countrymen. Believe it with all your heart. We in Israel ourselves have experienced hundreds of terrorist attacks and we know how much it hurts you.
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    1. Garrin
      Garrin 21 October 2013 21: 43
      +5
      Quote: OffenroR
      Caucasians at one time sacrificed their lives in the defense of this city ...

      Yes. It was so. Honor to them and
      praise for that.
      Now their descendants of Russian people are killing, so do they give out vouchers for enhanced nutrition? Raised a generation of scum, so do not be offended that you have to disentangle in full ...
      1. OffenroR
        OffenroR 22 October 2013 15: 48
        0
        Quote: Garrin
        Quote: OffenroR
        Caucasians at one time sacrificed their lives in the defense of this city ...

        The people ... why deleted my comment ??? Moderators, explain the reason ???
    2. shpuntik
      shpuntik 22 October 2013 02: 32
      +3
      OffenroR AZ Yesterday, 20:39 ↑
      Caucasians at one time sacrificed their lives in the defense of this city ...

      I agree with you, +. And not only this city, they served under the king-priest. But then there was strong power, and the Caucasus respects power. Now the authorities cannot defeat terrorism in the Caucasus. At first they brought Dudaev to the throne, but now it is not clear what: until now, the Russian guys are dying there, nothing cardinal is being done. Everything suits everyone ...
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  • Bezarius
    Bezarius 21 October 2013 22: 11
    -3
    As far as I know, a suicide bomber is not an individual from the Caucasus. However, she was a Muslim.

    On the whole, I consider Islam to be of a radical nature, and in general fundamentalism needs to be immediately imprisoned without talking. And for the burqa and other manifestations of excessive religiosity, it is necessary to register as potential terrorists, because such just go to death row and are easily amenable to zombies.

    Well, in essence, you just need to ban religion, at least on the territory of the Russian Federation. Because really Orthodox only 3%. All these attempts to re-enlighten the population are pointless. In fact, if we compare the ratio of Orthodox and Muslims, then the latter will have an advantage. It is worth noting here that I do not consider any stubborn thing for the Orthodox, who did not even hold the Bible in their hands, not to read it ... So, given that there are more Muslims than Orthodox, it will simply be cheaper and more efficient to ban religions. In other matters, I propose to ban de jure, and de facto use the official decree as an excuse to contain radical Islam within the framework of the law. In general, you can not even prohibit, but introduce a specific, rather complicated, procedure for registering activities, i.e. meetings, churches, registration of ministers, preachers, etc., etc. Unregistered (which, of course, will be those who preach radical Islam), catch and solder a very specific and not a short time.
    1. Starfish
      Starfish 21 October 2013 22: 33
      -1
      "... but in essence, you just need to ban religions at least on the territory of the Russian Federation."

      this is nonsense, so nonsense, the most selective.
      and how do you plan to implement it? and you don’t think that this will lead to an explosion of terrorism, right up to the uprising, especially in the Caucasus.
      Trotsky is healthy, but his work lives on
      1. Bezarius
        Bezarius 21 October 2013 22: 36
        0
        And there was a lot of terrorism under the USSR?
        1. Starfish
          Starfish 21 October 2013 22: 46
          -3
          what does the USSR have to do with it? We now live in the Russian Federation. another time, other people, and most importantly, another power.
          and all the more you proposed to ban religions - in the USSR no one forbade religion, at least officially
          1. Bezarius
            Bezarius 21 October 2013 23: 20
            0
            Pff, de jure may not have forbidden, but de facto the church was cut out a little less than completely, and nothing.
            1. shpuntik
              shpuntik 22 October 2013 02: 21
              0
              Bezarius SU Yesterday, 23:20 PM ↑
              Pff, de jure may not have forbidden, but de facto the church was cut out a little less than completely, and nothing.

              It is, +. Out of 140 thousand, 2 thousand remained. They dropped the bells with such eyes:
            2. Starfish
              Starfish 22 October 2013 10: 21
              +1
              Pff, de jure may not have forbidden, but de facto the church was cut out a little less than completely, and nothing.

              so if I understand you correctly, then are terrorists parishioners of the Russian Orthodox Church? grandmothers who basically go there are very dangerous for society?
          2. shpuntik
            shpuntik 22 October 2013 02: 14
            +1
            Starfish RU Yesterday, 22:46 PM ↑
            what does the USSR have to do with it?
            nobody forbade religion in the USSR, at least officially

            Here you are wrong, therefore you say: "at least officially." In the USSR, there was generally freedom of speech, officially.
            Religion is not necessary, it is wrong, but the Wahhabis must deal with the Muslims themselves, traditional Islam, which, for example, in Tatarstan. These muftis know the topic, understand the problem, but do not act.
            On holidays, everyone in the mosque, and those and others. Here is the problem. It turns out that for them Wahhabi is better than not a Muslim. I understand that. But there are still honest muftis, here's the video:

        2. alone
          alone 21 October 2013 23: 25
          +1
          Well, I remember a series of terrorist attacks in Moscow in the 70s. The explosion of a city bus in Baku in 1985-86, I don’t remember exactly. In the Soviet Union, they talked irregularly about this. In addition, there were several terrorist attacks against diplomats and citizens of the USSR
    2. Bezarius
      Bezarius 22 October 2013 00: 30
      0
      // No, she’s a suicide bomber from Dagestan, but her husband, who joined the terrorists, is Russian.
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  • Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 21 October 2013 18: 08
    +4
    As I expected, the attacks will be in the provinces of the Russian Federation, and not in Sochi. sad From all over Russia, you cannot make a fortress ...
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 21 October 2013 19: 35
      +1
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      As I expected, the attacks will be in the provinces of the Russian Federation, and not in Sochi.

      It is difficult to carry out a significant terrorist attack in Sochi, but all the adjacent regions and oblasts are just the target of such bastards. I think this is not the first ........ unfortunately.
      Condolences to the families of the victims.
  • Mitek
    Mitek 21 October 2013 18: 11
    26
    It is always VERY difficult to prevent a suicide bombing attack. Moreover, the cops will not be able to, not their profile. Checking all blacks is not a panacea. They are SO MUCH that all the Ministry of Internal Affairs will only have to deal with passport control. Phobos did a lot, managed to prevent a lot ... but it didn’t work out. The price of error is terrible of course. But not only the cops are guilty here, the FSB. Guilty of this bl ... power, kissing in the ass all this black bastard. Introduce the qualification of settledness and until we learn how to live as people to people do not let them. Total control of Muslim educational centers, and then damn they study in all sorts of Cathars, and then the radicals climb to us to recruit supporters and no one bothers them. Those who already live with us introduce responsibility for family members. Nakosyachil young, the whole family back to the village without the right to leave Dagestan, Chechnya and so on.
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      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 21 October 2013 18: 22
        +2
        Quote: Hairy Siberian

        A Caucasian does not mean that he is an Islamist.

        There is too thin line.
        1. Nick
          Nick 21 October 2013 18: 35
          16
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          There is too thin line.

          Nevertheless, Alexander, everyone does not need to be smeared with one world. Now, among these people, ethnic Russians have appeared, and many Muslims fiercely hate all these Wahhabis and martyrs. First of all, they get simple farmers ...
          1. Botanologist
            Botanologist 21 October 2013 23: 16
            +1
            Quote: Nick
            all do not need to be smeared with one world


            I totally agree with you. When terrorist attacks are going on in Daghestan and Ingushetia, it cannot be explained that some "black" people do not like Russians. It's just terrorism, and religion is just a cover and a tool at the same time. The goals are completely different - dominance in the territory. And the logo can be anything, even Aryan, even Indian.
        2. 31231
          31231 21 October 2013 19: 13
          +3
          Bgg. Ossetians, Georgians and Armenians will definitely not agree with you.
    2. 31231
      31231 21 October 2013 19: 17
      +2
      It is always VERY difficult to prevent a suicide bombing attack. Moreover, the cops will not be able to, not their profile.

      Dogs catch a wide range of common explosives.
      And the fact that we must take for the eggs of those who were in Saudi Arabia and Qatar is a fact.
    3. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 21 October 2013 21: 14
      +2
      Quote: Mitek
      Moreover, the cops will not be able to, not their profile

      There are district police officers and any district police officer knows what is on his site, only judging by the terrorist attacks and the behavior of a large number of Caucasians, it seems that corruption among employees is flourishing. Caucasians behave just as much as the authorities allow them.
  • Sadikoff
    Sadikoff 21 October 2013 18: 56
    +1
    Such affairs are not conducted by the cops, there was news in Nalchik that the terrorists blew up, it is possible that they simply put what our agents need. They can not keep up everywhere.
  • Civil
    Civil 21 October 2013 19: 04
    +1
    In Volgograd? So they spread throughout the territory,
  • Ivan79
    Ivan79 21 October 2013 17: 57
    19
    Relatives of the victims of my condolences!

    Well, these nits will not translate in any way? How can we pass them all!
    1. Ivan_Ivanov
      Ivan_Ivanov 21 October 2013 18: 04
      +7
      It is necessary to crush those who finance and protect them.

      Sincere condolences to the families and loved ones of the victims.
      1. Tarpon
        Tarpon 21 October 2013 18: 20
        +8
        Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
        It is necessary to crush those who finance and protect them.

        As well as all the ideologists of terrorism.


        Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
        Sincere condolences to the families and loved ones of the victims.

        I join in condolences.
        1. Nick
          Nick 21 October 2013 18: 38
          +2
          Quote: Tarpon
          As well as all the ideologists of terrorism.

          And these must first be neutralized. From them and all this Islamic-radical infection ...
          1. Ivan_Ivanov
            Ivan_Ivanov 21 October 2013 18: 52
            0
            Someone also contains, sponsors and protects them. Without their support, ideologists are almost an empty place.
      2. virm
        virm 21 October 2013 18: 58
        +7
        So Putin finances them. Money flows into the republican budgets, from where it goes straight to the militants.
      3. Mitek
        Mitek 21 October 2013 18: 58
        +5
        Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
        It is necessary to crush those who finance and protect them.
        Sincere condolences to the families and loved ones of the victims.

        USA, England, Arab monarchies. That's who protects them and frankly pumps money, weapons, instructors. I personally saw documents issued in the EU in Chechnya. And such fresh ones ... right before the trip .. And of course we all condole with the relatives and friends of the dead and wish the wounded to recover ..
        1. morpex
          morpex 21 October 2013 20: 36
          0
          Quote: Mitek
          pumping money, weapons,

          For the money I agree. But weapons and explosives are sold to them by our own BAGS ....
    2. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 21 October 2013 18: 19
      +8
      Quote: Ivan79
      How can we pass them all!

      To do this, at least you need to start pushing.
      1. Starfish
        Starfish 21 October 2013 20: 43
        +3
        here are the bastards. it's time, like generals Baklanov and Yermolov, to "pacify" the violent Caucasus
        only now someone smart-reasonable, balanced, and wise will come and tell us in confidence that they will restore order after the Sochi Olympics. and it’s impossible before it, otherwise terrorists can disrupt it.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 21 October 2013 17: 59
    11
    Tv .... r ..! Repressions need tough! Otherwise it will be too late ..
    1. avt
      avt 21 October 2013 18: 24
      +5
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Tv .... r ..! Repressions need tough! Otherwise it will be too late ..

      Not only, but also the hard everyday intelligence work and the real, and not foolishly tolerant, pressure of the Islamist preachers, who were probably the first to bring them down without trial. And to the dead - with peace to rest, to relatives - condolences and physical and spiritual forces to live on. What is it when peaceful life is torn at once - we in Moscow know, as well as in other places.
    2. Nick
      Nick 21 October 2013 18: 27
      +5
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Tv .... r ..! Repressions need tough! Otherwise it will be too late ..

      Not just hard, but as hard as possible. After all, these bastards are not aiming at the powers that be but at the common people, students, who rides our buses? ... Certainly not state officials ... am
      The blessed memory of the innocent victims and condolences to all the victims!
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 21 October 2013 18: 42
        +4
        Quote: Nick
        After all, these bastards do not aim at those in power

        Key phrase.

        Terrorist attacks caused by the political struggle all over the world are aimed at representatives of the Government (politicians, security officials, military personnel, officials), even in the Caucasus this is so: and only on the territory of the Russian Federation that does not belong to the Caucasus otherwise - why?
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 21 October 2013 18: 46
          +3
          Quote: Yarosvet
          Terrorist attacks caused by political struggle all over the world are aimed at representatives of the Government (politicians, security forces, military personnel, officials)

          All over the world, attacks are directed primarily against civilians. This is the style of the Islamists.
          Against the authorities, this is the old right and left terrorism. But he "learns" too, remember Breivik.
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 21 October 2013 19: 10
            +3
            Quote: Spade
            All over the world, attacks are directed primarily against civilians
            10-15 percent, and it does this frostbite, which declares the goal of the destruction of ALL non-believers. The remaining 85-90% are politically motivated and directed against representatives of the authorities (as an option, the occupation authorities)

            Against the authorities, this is the old right and left terrorism. But he "learns" too, remember Breivik.
            I remember well - blew up GOVERNMENT building and shot young Political party.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 21 October 2013 19: 31
              +1
              Quote: Yarosvet
              10-15 percent

              Damn, are you not interested in the news at all? 99,9% of the attacks were directed against civilians, and not against the authorities.
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 21 October 2013 21: 20
                +1
                Quote: Spade
                Damn, are you not interested in the news at all? 99,9% of the attacks were directed against civilians, and not against the authorities.

                I'm interested - I brought the alignment.
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 21 October 2013 21: 29
                  +1
                  So you are not mistaken, but frankly lying
                  1. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 21 October 2013 22: 44
                    -1
                    Quote: Spade
                    So you are not mistaken, but frankly lying

                    I can tell you the same thing, I’ll just look - is there an answer to the 2 questions I asked No.
            2. alone
              alone 21 October 2013 21: 53
              +6
              Quote: Yarosvet
              10-15 percent, and it does this frostbite, which declares the goal of the destruction of ALL non-believers.


              Yarosvet !! two years ago, in the market of Vladikavkaz, on the day of Ramadan, a bomb was blown up in the market. Most of the dead were Muslims. They fulfill an order. They receive money for this. whom they kill on the drum. Their only goal is to kill and sow enmity
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 21 October 2013 22: 47
                -1
                Quote: lonely
                about two years ago, a bomb was detonated on the ramadan holiday in the Vladikavkaz market. most of the dead were Muslims.

                Most of the dead can be anyone - the question is who was aiming: someone from officials, businessmen, the market administration, to a point of sale - to whom?
                1. alone
                  alone 21 October 2013 23: 01
                  +3
                  just a resonant explosion. the effect of fear of being destroyed wherever there is. and this is explained by the holy war. Do you think officials use the bus? there is nothing sacred for these people. They will dance for the one who pays them.
                2. Botanologist
                  Botanologist 21 October 2013 23: 22
                  0
                  Quote: Yarosvet
                  the question of who was aiming:


                  Do you seriously think that you can aim at someone with a bag of TNT? Yes, even in the market? Then tell us how you will aim at the market with a bag with an explosive device at the head of the Department of Internal Affairs or the governor wassat
        2. Botanologist
          Botanologist 21 October 2013 23: 19
          0
          Quote: Yarosvet
          Terrorist attacks caused by political struggle all over the world directed at representatives of the Government


          It was you who discovered something new in terrorism. The attacks were aimed primarily at the civilian population, and at the authorities only in case of aggravation and as a symbolic action.
    3. RUSS
      RUSS 21 October 2013 18: 32
      +4
      We still have a "roasted cock will not bite," but the cock has just pecked, I don't know what the authorities are waiting for?
      1. Warrawar
        Warrawar 21 October 2013 19: 03
        +1
        Quote: RUSS
        We still have a "roasted cock will not bite," but the cock has just pecked, I don't know what the authorities are waiting for?

        Our authorities are agents of the Saudis and Ayatols.
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 21 October 2013 21: 23
          +2
          Saudis and Ayatollah Khamenei are enemies, although Muslims, so you decide who our government works for the Iranians with their Ayatollah or for the Saudis.
          1. alone
            alone 21 October 2013 21: 55
            +4
            wassat I do not care about him. He does not know that the first enemy of Wahhabi is Shiite and Ayatollah.
  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 21 October 2013 18: 00
    +9
    again, the investigation of the tails chases. but where are the Chekists? why are they not working ahead of schedule?
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 21 October 2013 18: 33
      +4
      Quote: andrei332809
      again, the investigation of the tails chases. but where are the Chekists? why are they not working ahead of schedule?

      The number of terrorist attacks prevented is not very small.
      Unfortunately, no one can prevent everything ...

      Relatives of the victims, condolences ....
  • Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 21 October 2013 18: 02
    21
    Each time I hate radical Islam more and more .. Savages and stupid bastards .. Forgive me, Lord!
    My sincere condolences to the relatives of the victims ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 October 2013 18: 19
      +8
      Quote: Samsebenum
      Every time I hate Islam more and more ..

      +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ And we get to the point. So thoughts
      1. Samsebenaum
        Samsebenaum 21 October 2013 18: 33
        +3
        Emotions Emotions ...
        Sorry if I offended anyone. Each religion shows its essence ... So, for reflection ...
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 21 October 2013 19: 25
          +3
          Quote: Samsebenum
          Sorry if I offended anyone. Each religion shows its essence ... So, for reflection ...

          If you do not know, there are a huge number of Christian terrorists. There are even those who make terror a religion. IRA, Lord Resistance Army, etc. Does this say anything about Christianity in general?
          1. Samsebenaum
            Samsebenaum 21 October 2013 20: 24
            +1
            Pimply
            If we contrast the local Ugandan rebel group and the Irish separatist organization with radical Islam, then your comparison does not hold water.
            Local issues are one thing, another is the spread of Islam as the dominant religion throughout the world.
            Catch the difference?
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 21 October 2013 20: 40
              +1
              Quote: Samsebenum
              If we contrast the local Ugandan rebel group and the Irish separatist organization with radical Islam, then your comparison does not hold water.
              Local issues are one thing, another is the spread of Islam as the dominant religion throughout the world.
              Catch the difference?


              There was a similar theme with Christianity. Crusades remember? And the war between the branches of Christianity? It’s just that Western civilization has somewhat outpaced Islam in terms of development and the number of wars conducted. Now Islam is getting what it did not get in the Middle Ages.
              1. Samsebenaum
                Samsebenaum 21 October 2013 21: 09
                +2
                ПPimply

                Man, arguing about this makes no sense.
                Moreover, to compare the Middle Ages and the current situation.
                You can protect what is close to you, and I - what is close to me.
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 21 October 2013 21: 21
                  +1
                  Quote: Samsebenum
                  You can protect what is close to you, and I - what is close to me.

                  I just think that it’s wrong to fall under this influence. Islam can repulse as much as necessary for one reason or another: but this is not a reason to follow the lead of those who pressed the button.
        2. alone
          alone 21 October 2013 21: 57
          +4
          I don’t forgive !! I am a Muslim, have any complaints to me? The question also concerns Romanov!
        3. Nick
          Nick 21 October 2013 22: 24
          +2
          Quote: Samsebenum
          Sorry if I offended anyone. Each religion shows its essence ...

          It should be remembered how the "holy" warriors of the crusaders, in their campaigns behind the Holy Sepulcher, slaughtered the peaceful Muslims of the Saracens, ripped open their bellies only to find swallowed valuables in their stomachs, which the local population tried to save from plunder. I say again, if a different bastard is hiding behind some kind of religion, then this is not the fault of religion, be it Islam or Christian doctrine.
          Bastards must be fought, not religion.
          1. consul
            consul 22 October 2013 09: 47
            +1
            Quote: Nick

            Here it should be remembered how the "holy" warriors of the crusaders, in the campaigns behind the Holy Sepulcher, slaughtered peaceful Muslims

            The first crusade was against the Orthodox Byzantine Empire and smashed the Orthodox Constantinople, which later the Turks did.
            1. Eternal demobilization
              Eternal demobilization 22 October 2013 14: 34
              0
              Did you understand what you said? The first crusade against the Orthodox ... How is it?
              1. consul
                consul 22 October 2013 16: 23
                +1
                Quote: Eternal demobilization
                crusade against the orthodox

                I’m guilty, I meant the fourth (1202-1204) -12 April 1204, Constantinople was stormed, most of the Christian shrines were taken to Western Europe.
            2. Eternal demobilization
              Eternal demobilization 22 October 2013 14: 38
              +1
              The first crusade was organized in 1095 by the decision of Pope Urban II at the request of the Byzantine Emperor Alexei I with the aim of helping Eastern Christians defend Anatolia
            3. Nick
              Nick 22 October 2013 19: 50
              0
              Quote: consul
              The first crusade was against the Orthodox Byzantine Empire and smashed the Orthodox Constantinople

              Exactly...
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 21 October 2013 18: 27
      +6
      In Islam, there is no terror against civilians, it’s ... Wahhabis-sectarians. But in the end, the shadow is falling on Islam more and more, ordinary citizens don't give a damn about Sunni, Shiite, Wahhabi, all are Muslims.
      1. Samsebenaum
        Samsebenaum 21 October 2013 18: 49
        +3
        RUSS

        I would argue with you. Not so simple really.
        There are a lot of hidden, I repeat, intentionally hidden ideas and goals that preach the spread of Islam, its orders and laws throughout the planet.
        No matter how you bite your elbows later ...
        1. Rus 72
          Rus 72 21 October 2013 19: 14
          +2
          Any religion can be perverted so that it turns from peaceful in three seconds to militant ... remember the Crusades, for the people noodles in the ears in the form of great goals, but in essence, in the depths - the selfish interests of the nobles. So it is now with Islam ... simple brainworms are brainwashed by perverting the Quran, interpreting and reinterpreting for their specific selfish purpose
          1. Misantrop
            Misantrop 21 October 2013 19: 20
            +1
            Quote: Rus 72
            Any religion can be perverted so that it turns from peaceful in three seconds into militant ... remember the Crusades
            Maybe it’s worth remembering how many centuries have passed since their end? Obviously not "three seconds". Or does someone want the Christians to start cutting and blowing up the Gentiles in the same way?
            It’s not by chance that I emphasized that it is FIRST ORDER for Islamic leaders to pay attention to, moreover, exactly what their religion is converted into (if it really has nothing to do with Islam, as it is officially stated). Although, judging by the passivity of most of them, the current state of things suits them well. Which, in turn, cannot but alarm ...
            1. Rus 72
              Rus 72 21 October 2013 19: 27
              +3
              And what's the difference how many years have passed or centuries? Although the methods are old but run-in, repeatedly tested, you don’t need to invent anything ... in general the new is the well-forgotten old ...
              About Christians ... yes, they are waiting for this, they are pushing and provoking it, this is the goal - the civil war in Russia ... and then they will yell for the whole world which Russia is bad
              1. Misantrop
                Misantrop 21 October 2013 19: 47
                0
                Quote: Rus 72
                And what's the difference how many years have passed or centuries?
                The difference is VERY big. We are pushed into what VERY distant ancestors did, almost completely illiterate and never in their life heard of either the brotherhood of nations or human rights. And OUR CONTEMPORARIES are doing this for them, now. Do you feel the difference? Some worked out of ignorance, others do not give a damn. So maybe, if they do not care about these values ​​of the modern world, then do not apply these values ​​to them, but use the laws of those years? Tear horses, hang in the square, put on a stake?
                1. Rus 72
                  Rus 72 21 October 2013 20: 00
                  +1
                  Well, firstly, our ancestors were unlikely to participate in the Crusades))) Secondly, about the spit (regarding our contemporaries) and about ignorance (regarding our ancestors) can be discussed for years ... and both can be applied to both contemporaries and ancestors ... Third, the methods of suggestion, fooling, zombies (whatever you want to call) also do not stand still
                  1. Misantrop
                    Misantrop 21 October 2013 20: 18
                    +2
                    Quote: Rus 72
                    can be discussed for years ...

                    But only during all this time, explosions will sound at US, OUR people will die, adherents of THIS religion will appear in OUR families. Not with themI emphasize. And we will discuss ...
                    As for the new adherents. Enough Muslims live near me, we often communicate, we don’t interfere with each other and do not cling to our sides. BUT friends, daughter a couple of years ago got married and converted to Islam (I don’t know WHAT exactly is its branch). Before that, she was an excellent girl, but now a furious monkey compared with her is a model of meekness. Moreover, not only to former acquaintances, but also to the family in which she was born and raised. Here are some interesting observations from real life. request
                    1. Rus 72
                      Rus 72 21 October 2013 20: 30
                      +3
                      “Only during all this time explosions will sound AT US, OUR people will die, adherents of THIS religion will appear in OUR families. Not with them, I emphasize.”
                      A strange argument ... Dagestanis, for example, are adherents of THIS religion and they die no less often than the rest, but more often at the hands of scumbag terrorists professing the same religion ...
                      In general, I see you are a slippery comrade, an amateur who turns everything upside down and pervert ...
                      1. Misantrop
                        Misantrop 21 October 2013 23: 29
                        +2
                        Quote: Rus 72
                        In general, I see you are a slippery comrade, an amateur who turns everything upside down and pervert ...
                        Looked in the mirror, portraying my portrait? lol In Dagestan, as well as throughout the Caucasus, first of all, there is a clan war for leadership. And religion there is far from in the first place. The Ardzinba clan led Abkhazia to victory in the war for independence with Georgia. What did the grateful Abkhazians do first, was it worth it to release the reins a little? That's right, cut it ALL. And the new leaders do not feel grateful at all, they themselves have won their domination. Which, incidentally, explains the change in the policy of Abkhazia in relation to the Russian Federation ...
                2. Pimply
                  Pimply 21 October 2013 20: 11
                  -2
                  Quote: Misantrop
                  The difference is VERY big. We are pushed into what VERY distant ancestors did, almost completely illiterate and never in their life heard of either the brotherhood of nations or human rights. And OUR CONTEMPORARIES are doing this for them, now. Do you feel the difference? Some worked out of ignorance, others do not give a damn. So maybe, if they do not care about these values ​​of the modern world, then do not apply these values ​​to them, but use the laws of those years? Tear horses, hang in the square, put on a stake?


                  Christian terrorism in Russia, for example, takes the form of Nazism. Or say those Tajiks and Uzbeks who are slaughtered from time to time are not victims of terrorists? Another thing is that at the moment it has not reached suicide bombings: there is simply no such tradition. But political terrorism and the murder of citizens of a non-titular nationality - you don’t have to go far for this.
                  1. New Russia
                    New Russia 21 October 2013 20: 16
                    +4
                    "Christian terrorism in Russia, for example, takes the form of Nazism." Sorry, but this is such CRASH. most of the Russians are only formally Christians and have never even gone to church, and hatred of Asians is self-defense, none of the Russians go to Asia to kill
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 21 October 2013 20: 25
                      -4
                      Quote: New Russia
                      Sorry, but this is such a BAD. most of the Russians are only formally Christians and have never even gone to church, and hatred of Asians is self-defense, no one from the Russians goes to Asia to kill

                      The majority of Russian Nazism has a pronounced radical Orthodox tone. including symbols and so on.
                      1. New Russia
                        New Russia 21 October 2013 20: 28
                        +5
                        "pronounced radical Orthodox shade" Kolovrat and the swastika?)
                      2. Pimply
                        Pimply 21 October 2013 20: 44
                        0
                        Quote: New Russia
                        Kolovrat and the swastika?)

                        You see the banners and costumed priests at almost every procession.
                      3. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 21 October 2013 22: 54
                        0
                        Quote: Pimply
                        You see the banners and costumed priests at almost every procession.

                        There is such a thing
                      4. bask
                        bask 22 October 2013 00: 17
                        +6
                        [/ Quote]
                        There is such a thing [/ quote]
                        another scum claimed the lives of six Russian young guys.
                        eight in critical condition.

                        Grant God that they would remain alive and recover.
                        THE KINGDOM IS HEAVENLY, ALL DIED-INNOCENTLY KILLED.
                        LET THE EARTH THERE WILL BE FUR.


                        Yarosvet do you think, Orthodox Fellows ,,, fascists ,, nodding Zionist.
                        I thought it was a man, but it turned out ........ y
              2. alone
                alone 21 October 2013 21: 59
                +6
                to kill a man who is guilty only of the fact that he is an Uzbek, a crime, and not self-defense.
            2. Warrawar
              Warrawar 21 October 2013 22: 12
              0
              Quote: Pimply
              Christian terrorism in Russia, for example, takes the form of Nazism. Or say those Tajiks and Uzbeks who are slaughtered from time to time are not victims of terrorists?

              Napoleon defeated!
              Hitler won!
              And we will win the Russians!
            3. Misantrop
              Misantrop 21 October 2013 23: 33
              +2
              Quote: Pimply
              Christian terrorism in Russia, for example, takes the form of Nazism. Or say those Tajiks and Uzbeks who are slaughtered from time to time are not victims of terrorists?
              Maybe it's enough to attract everything in a row, even if it has nothing to do with the problem, but that happened at the same time or in the same territory? Where did you find Christianity there, can you share it? Many in the same Biryulyovo in front of the crowd of "priests Gapons" marched?
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 21 October 2013 23: 54
                0
                Quote: Misantrop
                Where did you find Christianity there, can you share it? Many in the same Biryulyovo in front of the crowd of "priests Gapons" marched?


                We seem to be talking about terrorism, not about unrest.
                1. Misantrop
                  Misantrop 22 October 2013 01: 27
                  +2
                  Quote: Pimply
                  We seem to be talking about terrorism, not about unrest.
                  And since when have skinheads been considered zealous Christians? They seem to be closer to Satanism
                2. New Russia
                  New Russia 22 October 2013 01: 32
                  -1
                  "They seem to be closer to Satanism" In your world)
                3. Ruslan67
                  Ruslan67 22 October 2013 01: 57
                  +3
                  Quote: Misantrop
                  They seem to be closer to Satanism

                  I’ll make a clarification — our St. Petersburg ones are more likely to paganism: the Solstice, etc. are twisted
              2. Normal
                Normal 22 October 2013 01: 38
                +3
                Quote: Pimply
                We seem to be talking about terrorism, not about unrest.

                Well, give examples of Orthodox terrorism or pagan terrorism. Just do not about IRA, or about ETA.
                Actually, you have an interesting position. When Muslims and Islamists are against Israel, they are your enemies, and when the same characters are against Russians, you quickly defend Islamic radicalism and look for Russian Nazism.
              3. Pimply
                Pimply 22 October 2013 02: 09
                +1
                Quote: Normal
                Actually, you have an interesting position. When Muslims and Islamists are against Israel, they are your enemies, and when the same characters are against Russians, you quickly defend Islamic radicalism and look for Russian Nazism.


                Jewish pogroms at the end of the 19-th - the beginning of the 20-th century, for example. An example of Orthodox terrorism.

                I consider Islamic radicalism to be evil. And not Islam in general. As I consider evil and Judean radicals who are ready to commit terrorist attacks. You read, IMHO, only what you want to see.

                I repeat - now there is a radicalization of Islam. To make stupid statements that Islam is evil means to help those who sent this suicide bomber to do their work and split Russia. The presence of an external enemy always unites.
        2. consul
          consul 22 October 2013 10: 14
          +1
          Quote: Pimply
          Christian terrorism in Russia, for example, takes the form of Nazism. Or say those Tajiks and Uzbeks who are slaughtered from time to time are not victims of terrorists? Another thing is that at the moment it did not reach the attacks

          How cleverly you make stuffing (Christian terrorism, it didn’t even occur to the Islamists), we have not forgotten about the initiative and the main role of your fellow tribesmen in terror and the destruction of the Russian Empire and their subsequent (so far) rampant debt owing to you is very large, you have to give it back. The developers of migration policy in Russia are Emil Abramovich Pain and Vladimir Izivich Mukomel.
      2. Nick
        Nick 22 October 2013 20: 03
        0
        [quote = Misantrop] So maybe, if they do not care about these values ​​of the modern world, then do not apply these values ​​to them, but use the laws of those years? Tear horses, hang in the square, put on a stake?

        Well, then what will you become? Same wild ghoul
  • Pimply
    Pimply 21 October 2013 19: 54
    +4
    Quote: Misantrop
    Maybe it’s worth remembering how many centuries have passed since their end? Obviously not "three seconds". Or does someone want the Christians to start cutting and blowing up the Gentiles in the same way?
    It’s not by chance that I emphasized that it is FIRST ORDER for Islamic leaders to pay attention to, moreover, exactly what their religion is converted into (if it really has nothing to do with Islam, as it is officially stated). Although, judging by the passivity of most of them, the current state of things suits them well. Which, in turn, cannot but alarm ...


    I will name without a hitch several organizations and terrorist attacks committed by Christian and Buddhist groups, just because of religious hatred, I can recall radical Jewish organizations.

    Radicals are everywhere. And Christian groups are more than enough.
    1. Misantrop
      Misantrop 21 October 2013 19: 59
      +4
      Quote: Pimply
      Radicals are everywhere. AND Christian groups are more than enough.
      What is enough for terror in the countries of the Islamic world? It seems that we are not talking about whether there is something or not, but about the AVALANCHE DEPARTMENT of terrorism precisely among Muslims. Moreover, not just Muslims, but NEWLY CONVERTED. Do you catch the difference? Just where Islam has been dense and dense for a long time, the number of scumbags does not go off scale, roughly corresponds to those among adherents of other religions. That’s why I say, it’s time to look closely at WHAT EXACTLY right now under the VIEW of Islam
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 21 October 2013 20: 31
        +2
        Quote: Misantrop
        What is enough for terror in the countries of the Islamic world? It seems that we are not talking about whether there is something or not, but about the AVALANCHE DEPARTMENT of terrorism precisely among Muslims.

        There is no doubt about it. At the moment, Islamic terrorism is leading. But here it is worth noting two things:
        1. The main victims of the terrorists at the moment are other Muslims.
        2. Terrorism goes in waves. There was a wave of Christian terrorism, then left, now the religious has surfaced again.
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 21 October 2013 20: 38
          +3
          Zhenya hi. Religion is just a screen, each terrorist attack has specific goals. And it is not the ephemeral bearded men who manage it from the gloomy caves.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 21 October 2013 21: 14
            0
            Quote: Alex 241
            Zhenya hi. Religion is just a screen, each terrorist attack has specific goals. And it is not the ephemeral bearded men who manage it from the gloomy caves.

            Hi Sasha. Sometimes they are. And for many, not only and not so much money is important as power and the ability to influence people. But the rest is right.
        2. Misantrop
          Misantrop 21 October 2013 22: 39
          +1
          Quote: Pimply
          1. The main victims of the terrorists at the moment are other Muslims.
          Get fucked up. And how many Muslims are among the dead in Moscow, Volgodonsk and other explosions? Or do you enumerate all the dead in wholesale to the martyrs of Islam? About the bombings in the Caucasus is not necessary, there they solve their problems, in no way connected with religion

          Muslims will BECOME a victim of these freaks when representatives of other religions and atheists who are brought over the edge of patience stupidly begin to bring them down in place, not understanding the intricacies. As at one time in medieval Europe, Jewish pogroms were organized, without understanding, a banker in front of them or a shoemaker ...
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 21 October 2013 23: 02
            +1
            Quote: Misantrop
            Get fucked up. And how many Muslims are among the dead in Moscow, Volgodonsk and other explosions? Or do you enumerate all the dead in wholesale to the martyrs of Islam? About the bombings in the Caucasus is not necessary, there they solve their problems, in no way connected with religion


            For starters, Islamic terrorism is not limited to Moscow, or Russia.

            The main terrorist attacks in recent years in the same Russia were in the Caucasus. Will you measure the number of Muslims there? Or in Moscow, the percentage of them to count - well, for a minute.

            Then remember where and how often explosions were heard outside of Russia. So there will be a surprise for you. Muslims at the hands of Islamists perished many times more than representatives of other religious movements.
            1. Misantrop
              Misantrop 21 October 2013 23: 10
              0
              Quote: Pimply
              For starters, Islamic terrorism is not limited to Moscow, or Russia.
              For a start, I absolutely SHOULD what is going on and where, where my interests do not reach. Tribes of cannibals in Africa generally eat each other, but this is not a reason to add them to the common piggy bank of African-American victims of interethnic terror. Further, all over the world these rabid animals (their behavior does not allow equating these frostbites with people or at least with normal animals - even the beast does not shit where it lives) live in packs. And, so to speak, they "mark the territory", at the same time removing local offenders. And the fact that not only the offender will die does not bother them absolutely. I am worried about exactly what is happening on the territory of the former USSR, but here the picture is quite unambiguous. I wrote a little higher about the Caucasus and what is happening there:
              Quote: Misantrop
              About the bombings in the Caucasus is not necessary, there they solve their problems, in no way connected with religion
              It’s not my problem that you read selectively. I know firsthand that TAM is happening firsthand - his brother fought there for 8 years, and his wife came from there. Friends and acquaintances stayed informed.
            2. smersh70
              smersh70 21 October 2013 23: 17
              0
              Quote: Pimply
              Muslims at the hands of Islamists perished many times more than representatives of other religious movements.

              Pupyrchaty! TODAY YOU DO NOT FIND OUT !!!!!!!! You are so objective! I simply applaud YOU !!!!! really answer one question - why defending the position of traditional Islam (for which YOU thank you), at the same time YOU so zealously in other branches you protect radical Jews, I emphasize, not Judaism, but radical ones in the person of some of our visitors)))
            3. Pimply
              Pimply 21 October 2013 23: 58
              +1
              Quote: smersh70
              Pupyrchaty! TODAY YOU DO NOT FIND OUT !!!!!!!! You are so objective! I simply applaud YOU !!!!! really answer one question - why defending the position of traditional Islam (for which YOU thank you), at the same time YOU so zealously in other branches you protect radical Jews, I emphasize, not Judaism, but radical ones in the person of some of our visitors)))


              To begin with, I always try to be objective. Secondly, I am not advocating radical Jews who commit crimes. I believe that a Jewish terrorist is no different from an Arab terrorist, and a participant in an action a la "Tag Mehir" should be in prison.

              Among the founders of Israel were organizations operating by terrorist methods. After the formation of the state, they were firmly pressed to the nail.

              Or are you talking about something else? Then explain what you understand by radical Jews.
    2. morpex
      morpex 21 October 2013 20: 55
      0
      Quote: Misantrop
      under the VIEW of Islam

      That's for sure. Radical Muslims declared JIHAD "unfaithful", that is to us. But along the way they did not hold the Koran in their hands. Jihad - "effort") - a concept in Islam, meaning zeal in the path of Allah. Jihad in Islam is the fight against one's spiritual or social vices (for example, with lies, deception, depravity of society, etc.), elimination of social injustice, constant diligence in the spread of Islam, waging war against aggressors, punishing criminals and offenders. In addition, in Arabic, the word jihad means any effort or diligence, in particular in work, study, etc.
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 21 October 2013 22: 58
        +1
        Quote: morpex
        Jihad - “effort”

        Surah 2 ayat 191
        Surah 8 ayat 12
  • Warrawar
    Warrawar 21 October 2013 19: 04
    0
    Quote: RUSS
    In Islam, there is no terror against civilians, it’s ... Wahhabis-sectarians. But in the end, the shadow is falling on Islam more and more, ordinary citizens don't give a damn about Sunni, Shiite, Wahhabi, all are Muslims.

    Connoisseur of Islam?
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 21 October 2013 20: 56
      0
      Just a connoisseur, and you?
  • Asgard
    Asgard 21 October 2013 18: 34
    +5
    Yes, not the Islamists to blame ....
    They artificially explode the situation, and in no way are they crazy (they don’t have enough intelligence and breadth of organization)))
    I have a guess !!!
    I am ashamed to share))))) but having started the revolution in 1917, these "Hare Krishnaites" could not stay in power ...
    Wait will be abruptly, survive 1-2% ....
    Well, Volgograd vryatli will light the country ....
    Rather, somewhere in our Northwest (the sensations are already two months old, I can’t explain))
    Vaughn and Romanovich think so (bad sign)))
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 21 October 2013 18: 46
      -2
      Quote: Asgard
      I have a hunch
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 21 October 2013 18: 50
        +2
        Dumb. However, for fans of conspiracy theories, this is normal.
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 21 October 2013 19: 11
          -2
          Quote: Spade
          Dumb. However, for fans of conspiracy theories, this is normal.

          Wholeheartedly
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 21 October 2013 19: 27
            0
            To rave about "Putin's rating".
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 21 October 2013 21: 28
              +1
              Quote: Spade
              To rave about "Putin's rating".

              Who benefits from attacks against civilians on the territory of the Russian Federation and why?

              How many terrorist attacks took place on the territory of the Russian Federation from the 91st to the 2000th year precisely against civilians (we exclude the territory of the Caucasus and gang warfare)?
          2. Asgard
            Asgard 21 October 2013 19: 55
            +3
            Recall the failed terrorist attack in the Kirov region ...
            --- components of an explosive device, maps and diagrams of the Maradykovsky object were found:
            --- According to preliminary data from experts, the amount of detected chemical components was sufficient to organize an explosion equivalent to 10 kg of TNT.
            --- Maradykovsky chemical arsenal - a facility for the storage and disposal of chemical weapons Since 1953 it has been used to store ammunition with toxic agents of the latest generations - sarin, soman, VX gases, mustard-lewish mixes.
      2. Rus 72
        Rus 72 21 October 2013 19: 17
        +2
        Naughty Well, for! Putin is to blame again! Well, let’s blame Novodvorskaya at least once!
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 21 October 2013 20: 21
          +5
          Quote: Rus 72
          Well, let’s blame Novodvorskaya at least once!

          What problems? Blame it laughing
          1. Rus 72
            Rus 72 21 October 2013 20: 36
            0
            I need to look into her eyes (like the Minister of the Interior)! and she is looking up a bit!
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 21 October 2013 21: 29
              0
              Quote: Rus 72
              as Minister of the Interior

              Do you also have a craving for theatrical productions?
              1. Rus 72
                Rus 72 21 October 2013 21: 32
                0
                And then! laughing What kind of teachers
    2. Samsebenaum
      Samsebenaum 21 October 2013 19: 09
      +1
      Asgard
      Quote: Asgard
      Wait will be abruptly, survive 1-2% ....


      Dear, do not be shy, the facts in the studio ...
      Is there reason for negativity ??
    3. Asgard
      Asgard 21 October 2013 19: 31
      +1
      400 grams of TNT (shell-less)
      36 people of them 6 were killed, 8 were heavy in another 20 wounds of varying severity
      McFaul has already brought his condolences ....



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  • Pimply
    Pimply 21 October 2013 19: 23
    +9
    Quote: Samsebenum
    Every time I hate Islam more and more .. Savages and bastards stoned .. Forgive me, Lord!
    My sincere condolences to the relatives of the victims ...

    So you help the terrorists. Their task is to incite hatred of Islam as a whole, isolate Muslims, and radicalize Islam as a whole.
    1. Samsebenaum
      Samsebenaum 21 October 2013 19: 49
      0
      Pimply
      Quote: Pimply
      So you help the terrorists.


      Colleague, I ask you to publicly publish the facts of my assistance to terrorists. I'm waiting.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 21 October 2013 20: 15
        +4
        Quote: Samsebenum
        Colleague, I ask you to publicly publish the facts of my assistance to terrorists. I'm waiting.

        Quote: Samsebenum
        Every time I hate Islam more and more .. Savages and bastards stoned .. Forgive me, Lord!

        Help is that. If you hate Islam because of this, then you help those bastards who blew up the bus. Just because of you, they achieve their goal. They do not aim only to intimidate the Russians, no. They aim to split the Muslims and everyone else, to make Muslims a separate group that feels danger from the outside. And such groups are easier to control - in the presence of an external enemy, and easier to manage. Yes, and it’s even easier to pull the reins in them.
  • Marek Rozny
    Marek Rozny 21 October 2013 20: 06
    +5
    And my grandfathers were shot at by Christians with Gott mit un buckles. Should I hate you personally now? You are also a Christian.
    1. New Russia
      New Russia 21 October 2013 20: 12
      +1
      They were primarily German Nazis, what does Christianity have to do with it? With the same success, I can say that the Islamists wear a beard, should I hate everyone with a beard?)
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 21 October 2013 20: 33
        0
        Quote: New Russia
        They were primarily German Nazis, what does Christianity have to do with it? With the same success, I can say that the Islamists wear a beard, should I hate everyone with a beard?)


        There were guys with Orthodox beards, a little earlier. But this is not a reason.
  • morpex
    morpex 21 October 2013 20: 28
    0
    Quote: Samsebenum
    Every time I hate Islam more and more ..

    that’s how it, Islam, was originally created to fight Christianity. And now it is fully manifested.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 21 October 2013 20: 46
      +5
      Quote: morpex
      that’s how it, Islam, was originally created to fight Christianity. And now it is fully manifested.

      Interestingly, have you read the history of Islam?
      1. morpex
        morpex 21 October 2013 21: 02
        0
        Quote: Pimply
        Interestingly, have you read the history of Islam?

        You know, yes. Unfortunately, not very successful copying of Christianity.
        Do you know the history of the struggle of Christianity and Islam? I predict that you will answer in the affirmative. Then answer me a simple question. Do you believe in a final solution to this question peacefully? For some reason, I am not based on historical experience ....
        1. Rus 72
          Rus 72 21 October 2013 21: 04
          -1
          And the experience of the USSR does not tell you anything?
          1. morpex
            morpex 21 October 2013 21: 16
            0
            Quote: Rus 72
            And the experience of the USSR does not tell you anything?

            Where is the USSR now, and where is Islam? This is not a method to always keep everything in check. She, the bridle, tends to break. Although you are partly right. Tough, brutal control by the FSB, recruiting their imams, collecting dirt on them for the purpose of blackmail and Yes, any methods just to stop this orgy that is happening now. By the way, incidentally, at the same time, prohibit all these sects from the United States like "Jehovah's Witnesses", "Adventists of the 7th day, etc. what.
            1. Rus 72
              Rus 72 21 October 2013 21: 24
              +1
              Successful experience, albeit difficult ... you have to work a lot. 70 years of experience worked and do not always notice with the help of reins. There was an idea, few paid attention to the other (religion, nationality).
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 21 October 2013 21: 25
          0
          Quote: morpex
          You know, yes. Unfortunately, not very successful copying of Christianity.

          I read. First of all - Judaism.


          Quote: morpex
          Do you believe in a final solution to this issue peacefully? For some reason, I am not based on historical experience ....

          Based on experience - and this did not happen.
      2. 3.7.964
        3.7.964 21 October 2013 21: 39
        -1
        Quote: Pimply
        Quote: morpex
        that’s how it, Islam, was originally created to fight Christianity. And now it is fully manifested.

        Interestingly, have you read the history of Islam?

        What for? Enough of this.
        Today, more than three billion people on earth are supporters of monotheistic religions. But monotheism came into the world only once - almost four thousand years ago, through the Jewish people, and since then it has spread to most of humanity - through the "daughter religions" of Christianity and Islam, in fact, "subsidiaries" in relation to Judaism marketing Jewish ideas (and very successful, for which we thank them and a big gold medal).
        In Christianity, this function - the marketing of Judaism - is obvious. It manifests itself in the worship of Jesus, whom Christians consider God to be, and which, according to their own ideas, belonged to the Jewish people during their lifetime. The fact that this “man-God” is a Jew is a unique and, of course, nonrandom fact in the history of mankind. The Christian Bible, which more than two billion people consider their sacred religious text, speaks entirely about Jews. Not only in the Old Testament (TaNaH), but also in the New - all the heroes, mostly Jews; and all authors are also Jews.

        In Islam, the Qur'an retells, with interpretations and additions, the basic texts of the Torah, recognizes all Jewish forefathers and prophets as “true Muslims”.

        Pinchas Polonsky (Researcher of the teachings of the R. Cook and an active participant in the processes of modernization of Judaism, a teacher at Ariel University (in the past - a teacher Bar Ilana and one of the founders of Mahanaim), author of books)

        http://cursorinfo.co.il/blogs/Polonsky/evreyskaya-izbrannost--kak-fakt-i-kak-viz
        ov /
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 21 October 2013 21: 49
          0
          Quote: 3.7.964
          Pinchas Polonsky (Researcher of the teachings of the R. Cook and an active participant in the processes of modernization of Judaism, a teacher at Ariel University (in the past - a teacher Bar Ilana and one of the founders of Mahanaim), author of books)

          When I was studying in Bar-Ilan, he taught a parallel course.
          1. 3.7.964
            3.7.964 21 October 2013 22: 50
            0
            Quote: Pimply
            When I was studying in Bar-Ilan, he taught a parallel course.

            Then it will not be difficult for you, to explain to me and the forum users, this is the statement of Mr. Polonsky.
            Therefore, it is “Judaism directly” - and not “Judaism through subsidiaries” - that will become the religion of humanity at the next stage of development. And it is precisely to this religious paradigm that religious Zionism and the modernization of Orthodox Judaism are being redirected in Israel today - in order to fulfill what God said to Abraham four thousand years ago.
            http://cursorinfo.co.il/blogs/Polonsky/evreyskaya-izbrannost--kak-fakt-i-kak-viz
            ov /
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 21 October 2013 23: 08
              0
              Quote: 3.7.964
              Then it will not be difficult for you, to explain to me and the forum users, this is the statement of Mr. Polonsky.
              Therefore, it is “Judaism directly” - and not “Judaism through subsidiaries” - that will become the religion of humanity at the next stage of development. And it is precisely to this religious paradigm that religious Zionism and the modernization of Orthodox Judaism are being redirected in Israel today - in order to fulfill what God said to Abraham four thousand years ago.


              Why should I interpret the private opinion of one person? In addition - in a short note. Polonsky considers Judaism to be the most correct way, and believes that people will eventually come to Judaism as the main religion. In Hebrew, if anything, anyone can become.
    2. 3.7.964
      3.7.964 21 October 2013 21: 11
      +2
      Quote: morpex
      that’s how it, Islam, was originally created to fight Christianity. And now it is fully manifested.

      You're wrong. Islam and Christianity are the brainchild of Judaism, so to speak subsidiaries.
      1. morpex
        morpex 21 October 2013 21: 28
        0
        Quote: 3.7.964
        You're wrong. Islam and Christianity are the brainchild of Judaism, so to speak subsidiaries.

        It is possible. But this is my point of view. Have you yourself ever compared the verses of the Qur'an with Bible verses? Try. An exact copy. In any case, I did not see any differences in the basic principles of teaching.
        By the way, Judaism is a more terrible religion in its essence than the Koran. After all, the Torah lies at the heart of Judaism. And it is all saturated with ideas like "an eye for an eye."
    3. RUSS
      RUSS 21 October 2013 21: 28
      0
      Interesting and by whom it is created? Throughout world history, Christians have killed each other many times more than Muslim Christians.
      1. morpex
        morpex 21 October 2013 21: 42
        0
        Quote: RUSS
        Interesting and by whom it is created? Throughout world history, Christians have killed each other many times more than Muslim Christians.

        Google. Open Vika. There is everything about the history of creation. By the way, this is the youngest religion of the main religions of the world.
        What about killing Christians by Christians? So, after all, Muslims used to soak and soak each other so that their mother does not cry. Have you heard anything about Shiites and Sunnis? This is about the same as in Catholics and Protestants in Christianity. Only much more fanatical ..
  • Nick
    Nick 21 October 2013 22: 15
    0
    Quote: Samsebenum
    Every time I hate Islam more and more

    Well, in vain. Islam teaches the same commandments as Christianity. I hate radicalism, its bestial cruelty, no matter what religion and ideology it hides behind ...
    1. 3.7.964
      3.7.964 21 October 2013 22: 24
      +1
      Quote: Nick
      Well, in vain. Islam teaches the same commandments as Christianity.

      Here are some of the Quran.
      (Quran 9: 5) “And when the forbidden months end, kill the polytheists, wherever you find them, capture them, besiege them, ambush them in any hidden place! And if they converted (to Islam) and performed prayer and do cleansing, then set them free: for Allah is forgiving and merciful! ”
      (Koran 9:29) “Fight those who do not believe in Allah and on the last day, do not prohibit what Allah and His messenger forbade, and do not obey the true religion - of those who are sent the scripture until they pay jizya with your hand, being humiliated. ”
      (Koran 8:39) “And fight them until there is temptation, and all religion belongs to Allah.”
      “Fight Jews and Christians because they have violated the foundations of faith and they do not believe in the true religion (Islam), which has annulled all other religions. Fight with them until they pay jizyu (poll tax) in submission and humiliation (Koran 9:29).
      What other evidence is needed?
  • magadanets
    magadanets 21 October 2013 18: 03
    +6
    Zad ... ball this democracy
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 21 October 2013 18: 17
      +5
      Quote: magadanets
      Zad ... ball this democracy

      Where did you see her?
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 21 October 2013 18: 23
        +3
        Quote: Yarosvet
        Where did you see her?

        I blew myself up on the bus.
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 21 October 2013 18: 49
          -1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          I blew myself up on the bus.


          Romanov - give the definition of the concept of demos and the concept of power.
          1. Samsebenaum
            Samsebenaum 21 October 2013 18: 56
            +1
            Yarosvet

            Man, let me share the information with you ...
            Demos translated - people, but ...
            But ... in ancient Greece, the demos mattered as an estate of rich people.
            Through this, all the rumors are generated.
            Poor people and people did not consider .. That's the thing.
            Hence the conclusion: democracy is -.....
            1. hrych
              hrych 21 October 2013 19: 12
              +5
              There was a demos and okhlos (hence the okhlomon), similarly in Rome, patricians and plebeians, some vote others obey.
            2. kaktus
              kaktus 21 October 2013 19: 31
              +1
              democracy is the power of democrats winked
              1. bistrov.
                bistrov. 21 October 2013 20: 15
                +2
                Quote: kaktus
                democracy is the power of democrats

                Demos - in ancient Greece, free citizens. Subsequently, demos is used in the meaning of ordinary people. Literacy literally means the power of the common people. Currently, there has been a substitution of concepts: through manipulation, political technology, the power of the financial and capitalist oligarchy is considered to be democracy. A financial oligarchy is a merger of banking and industrial capital. A unique type of oligarchy has formed in the post-Soviet territory: financial and criminal bureaucracy.
                1. Yarosvet
                  Yarosvet 21 October 2013 21: 34
                  0
                  Quote: bistrov.
                  financially-criminally-bureaucratic.

                  Nomenclature-kleptocratic oligarchy.
            3. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 21 October 2013 20: 25
              +2
              Quote: Samsebenum
              Hence the conclusion -
              That you were a little mistaken: people were not meant rich, but citizens (there were slaves not yet related to the people).
              Democracy is the power of citizens.

              Will you try to define the concept of "power"?
      2. magadanets
        magadanets 21 October 2013 19: 45
        +5
        Yes, I’ve been looking since 91, I can’t get enough of it. And I have some on the box ... they want to prove that Stalin is bad. When I didn’t have democracy, when I didn’t receive priests and mullahs, when it was not in the bus , all over the country he could safely ride.
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 21 October 2013 21: 41
          +1
          Quote: magadanets
          Yes, I’ve been looking since 91, I can’t get enough of it. And I have some on the box ... they want to prove that Stalin is bad. When I didn’t have democracy, when I didn’t receive priests and mullahs, when it was not in the bus , all over the country he could safely ride.

          You write everything correctly, except for one thing: when there was no democracy in your country, it (or a significant number of its elements) just still existed - the power of the Soviets is true democracy, in which the people, through their representatives, pose tasks to the country's leadership yes
          1. magadanets
            magadanets 22 October 2013 00: 54
            +1
            Well, I’m saying with irony ... I don’t know how the smiley irony is written, and whether it exists at all ...
    2. Ivan79
      Ivan79 21 October 2013 18: 18
      17
      I agree. I want totalitarianism and I.V. Stalin as president.
  • Hairy Siberian
    Hairy Siberian 21 October 2013 18: 08
    +2
    The 30-year-old Dagestani Naida Akhiyalova turned out to be a Volgograd suicide bomber Source: http://censor.net.ua/n257054 Source: http://censor.net.ua/n257054
  • Sewer
    Sewer 21 October 2013 18: 08
    +2
    And where is our today's defender of these "comrades" good? Who assured them that they are good, where is he interesting? And I said, we are not brothers to them and they will never be for us! This is the result of "friendship"! eternal torment set off!
    1. Samsebenaum
      Samsebenaum 21 October 2013 18: 41
      +5
      Sewer
      Quote: Sewer
      And where is our today's defender of these good "tovarisches", who assured that they are good, where is he interesting?


      That would be to live incognito for our "defender" in the Stavropol region ...
      Yes, in a showdown, wave. Uma would have accumulated, perhaps ...
    2. vlad0
      vlad0 21 October 2013 19: 19
      +3
      I think her b ..... kie relatives in a couple of weeks will scream with demands to hand over the remains to "bury humanly."
  • mole
    mole 21 October 2013 18: 10
    +9
    I am sorry for all the relatives of those who died in this madness !!!
    Really bothered already this brain corruption called "democracy". What I want - I say what I want - I do, and the saddest thing, no responsibility!
    This "shahidka" herself did not realize WHAT she was doing! IN THE HELL OF THIS BEAST!
  • TAIM
    TAIM 21 October 2013 18: 11
    +8
    I live in Volgograd. tragedy of course. but this does not happen so often. many crimes can still be prevented. bodies work. we have a lot of Caucasians in our city. whole diasporas. try to get along.
    1. mole
      mole 21 October 2013 18: 18
      +4
      Quote: TAIM
      I live in Volgograd. tragedy of course. but this does not happen so often. many crimes can still be prevented. bodies work. we have a lot of Caucasians in our city. whole diasporas. try to get along.

      No getting along. There is a simple control over the observance of the legislation, including sometimes strict control. But thanks to the presumption of innocence, no one will admit their guilt. If this element is removed, then instantly understanding comes, especially "who is the boss"!
    2. Samsebenaum
      Samsebenaum 21 October 2013 19: 12
      +3
      TAIM

      Who is trying? Russian or newcomers ??
      1. TAIM
        TAIM 21 October 2013 19: 23
        0
        everyone is trying. they also prefer not to get into trouble. I repeat once again they are the same citizens of the Russian Federation. they have the same passports as mine. Lezgins. Dargins. Avars. Chechens. Ingush. smart people here on the site. as you see the solution to the problem. draw a border across the Krasnodar Territory and evict them all to the Caucasus. I often visit Moscow, so there are many times more Caucasians. although we are much closer to all these southern republics.
  • Misantrop
    Misantrop 21 October 2013 18: 13
    +9
    Interesting things ... Well, now we are getting ready, now in this topic we will be told that "Islam is the most peaceful religion" and that "The bandit has no nationality" ... Damn, I could still understand (not forgive) when Islamist suicide bomber did not know any other religion since childhood, was brought up in such traditions, etc. But when the terrorist is RECENTLY ADOPTED ISLAM, then it is different than zombie it's hard to call it. Is it not time for law enforcement officers (on the one hand) and the leaders of the Muslim diasporas (on the other) to take a closer look, WHO is presented to us as new believers of THIS religion. And take action before it’s too late ...
    1. Sewer
      Sewer 21 October 2013 18: 37
      +2
      Wait, they will begin to tell you!
    2. bistrov.
      bistrov. 21 October 2013 20: 51
      +4
      Quote: Misantrop
      But when the terrorist goes RECENTLY ACCEPTING ISLAM

      There is a special technology for "growing" terrorists. Its essence lies in the separation from the family and constant rape, as well as addiction to drugs, mainly widows and unmarried Muslim women. The role of a widow in a Muslim family is generally tragic. The head of the family is given the right at any time to "fuck" the widow of a deceased or deceased relative. This has a destructive effect on the psyche of a Muslim woman, makes her feel inferior. The terrorist organizers constantly instill in the shahid the shahid that she has only one way out, death, but if she takes with her several lives of the "infidels", then she "Paradise". Elements of zombie are also used. Under the Soviet regime, there could be no question of such phenomena, after all there was some kind of education and literacy. At present, feudalism has returned to the Muslim republics, with all its "charms" ...
  • Grandson of Veteran
    Grandson of Veteran 21 October 2013 18: 14
    18
    God bless the souls of the innocent slain!
    Deep condolences to relatives!
  • Bort radist
    Bort radist 21 October 2013 18: 14
    +3
    A source in the power structures of Dagestan said that the suicide bomber who blew herself up in the Volgograd bus could be Naida Afiyalova (according to other sources - Asiyalova) - the wife of the militant of the “Makhachkala” bandit group Dmitry Sokolov. It is reported by ITAR-TASS.

    “They studied together in a Moscow university, where girl recruited Sokolovand he left everything and left for Dagestan and joined the militants, ”said a representative of the security forces of Dagestan.

    Information about the identity of the suicide bomber is confirmed by the Investigative Committee. In the message of the UK, the name of the woman sounds like Akiyalova. “This woman got on the bus at one of the stops, and almost immediately after that an explosion thundered. This is confirmed, among other things, by the passenger of the flight who survived the explosion, ”said SK Mark Spokesman RIA Novosti.

    According to an Interfax source in the police, documents near Naida Asiyalova were found near the site of the explosion.

    According to Lifenews, trotillo checkers, two grenades and damaging elements - screws and shavings - were fastened to the body of a suicide bomber. Earlier it was reported that fragments of an exploding grenade were found on the spot, as well as another grenade that did not explode. The sappers neutralized her.
    Condolences to the family. Bad news.
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      1. Sewer
        Sewer 21 October 2013 18: 38
        0
        Not only, perhaps Peter, Nizhny, Yekaterinburg, but who knows where they can still explode!
    2. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 21 October 2013 18: 35
      +3
      I think not only
      Quote: SAG
      All these are links of one chain. The ultimate goal is to foment a civil war in Russia. am IMHO

      The goal may be more global - the separation of the Caucasus from Russia!
      And I'm afraid if this succeeds, then fragmentation will begin further, to Russia within the borders of the Moscow principality ...
      This must not be allowed!
  • ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 21 October 2013 18: 18
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    Promises begin to be realized with ... ki, you have to beat the sponsors - Qatar and the Saudis
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 21 October 2013 18: 25
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      The Arabs from the Gulf openly say - "hand over Assad, and everything will be quiet at the Olympics in Sochi", information for thought ...
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 21 October 2013 18: 51
        +1
        Quote: RUSS
        The Arabs from the Gulf openly say - "hand over Assad, and everything will be quiet at the Olympics in Sochi",


        Give a link to the source of information (I hope it will be official)
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 21 October 2013 20: 58
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          There is no link and there will never be one; your hopes will not come true.
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 21 October 2013 23: 03
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            Quote: RUSS
            There is no link and there will never be one; your hopes will not come true.

            I didn’t doubt it at all hi
      2. Gecko
        Gecko 21 October 2013 19: 01
        +3
        Most likely, the head of Saudi intelligence, Bandar Ben Sultan noted.
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 21 October 2013 20: 29
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          Quote: gecko
          Most likely, the head of Saudi intelligence, Bandar Ben Sultan noted.

          An opinion like "Most likely" has nothing to do with the source of information.
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 21 October 2013 21: 03
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            Correctly you "Gecko" answered, for example, the head of intelligence of the Saudis, when meeting with Putin, discussed this topic.
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 21 October 2013 23: 05
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              Quote: RUSS
              For example, the head of Saudi intelligence at a meeting with Putin, discussed this topic.


              A link to the transcript, please. If there is none, then there is no need to suck "facts" out of the finger.
      3. Asgard
        Asgard 21 October 2013 19: 03
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