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Livia: we wanted the best ...

After 2011, the West can say about Libya with the words of Mr. Chernomyrdin: "We wanted the best, but it turned out - as always." Before the assassination of Gaddafi, which the well-known person from the State Department estimated with the expression “Wow!”, Libya built its budget almost entirely on oil. Now, almost ten percent of the prey remains. A large oil-producing business is not in a hurry to turn around in places where “militia” and common thugs are hostile. Other firms generally leave Libya. As for world oil prices, the fall of Gaddafi did not at all contribute to their fall. Everything turned out exactly the opposite. Democracy in Libya, too, did not appear - there is practically no representative, but no authority at all. There is only the struggle of various factions for oil, weapon and territory.

In the summer of 2013, in Libya, one after another strikes and protests took place. Raw materials workers blocked oil terminals and ports. The country has reduced oil production from 1,5-1,6 million barrels to 100 thousand barrels per day, notes "" with reference to France-Presse. The figures were voiced on the TV channel Al-Hurra by Saad bin Shrad, a member of the parliamentary commission on energy.

The strike was “launched” at the end of July by the very “rebels” who overthrew Gaddafi. The accusations of the conflicting parties are contradictory. The workers accuse the authorities of selling additional volumes of oil "to the left", and the government claims that the reason for the protest is the attempt of the guards to organize the sale of raw materials on the "black market".

Gas production also prevented the protests. According to Reuters, the armed groups of security guards and workers blocked the work of most gas fields in the eastern part of Libya.

Amid these protests, world oil prices have risen.

Further more. In mid-September, it became known that Libya had to reduce oil production by 90%. This was due to numerous strikes at the largest enterprises. The army and the police were powerless, they write "Days. Ru" with reference to Russia Today.

The rebels demanded the autonomy of the eastern regions, higher wages, and a change of leaders. Loss of government control over the situation threatens to turn into a collapse for foreign investors.

The head of the oil and gas company Crescent Petroleum (UAE) Badr Jafar said: “Libya is on the verge of a disaster. The joy of the Arab spring was here, as in most other countries, very short-lived. ”

“The situation in the country is very dangerous. Each village is ruled by its own militia, but there is virtually no central authority, ”said Dragan Vukovich, head of the Mediterranean International oil company, which left the Libyan market.

On the present and future of Libyan oil on the pages "New Eastern Ferris" spoke Eldar Kasayev - specialist in energy investments in the countries of the Middle East and North Africa.

The volume of oil production in Libya does not exceed today 1,4 million barrels per day. According to the Libyan leadership, by the end of the year the country plans to increase this figure to 1,7 million barrels. But to achieve this will not be easy. The analyst calls several serious obstacles. Select the main ones:

1. Frequent violent clashes in the eastern part of the country where the main oil fields are located.

2. Substantial financial resources are needed to restore the industrial infrastructure that was damaged during the war. In the meantime, there is a crisis in Europe and the USA, and one cannot expect large investments from them.

3. Libya's investment attractiveness has fallen due to political, economic and legal risks. Foreign enterprises are in no hurry to return to the country. In addition, Libyans are not going to compensate foreign oil companies for losses associated with damage to equipment.

Nevertheless, in general, according to the expert, the work of Libyans in attracting Western firms is being conducted successfully. In the autumn of last year, a major specialized event called Oil, Gas and Sustainable Development was held in Tripoli. Among the participants were high-ranking politicians and representatives of business structures.

But still, continues the author, despite the possible creation of conditions for potential investors, the tribal standoff in Libya can otherwise place accents in hydrocarbon issues. There are doubts that the central authorities will be able to control large deposits, especially in Cyrenaica, striving for autonomy.

Maybe there are chances for Russian oil producers?

At the end of last year, the expert recalls, Gazprom Neft sent to Eni a notice of its intention to exercise an option to acquire a stake in the Elephant project. However, you need to get an official approval of Tripoli for entry into the project, but this is not easy to do.

The author writes that the Libyan authorities are hardly ready to completely forget the “double game” of the Kremlin, which had previously tried to gain the support of both Gaddafi and his opponents. It is no coincidence that the leadership of Libya announced unresolved issues, including checking Russia for the presence of a “corruption component”. In addition to Gazprom Neft, the analyst continues, Tatneft and Gazprom Libya B.V. are trying to recover assets in the Libyan oil field. According to the expert, they will be hindered by the lack of special privileges in the arsenal of European companies and by the high degree of Libyan confidence in the West: after all, the latter supported those who later joined the ladies.

Moreover, Russian companies are not expecting bright prospects in Libya because of the October events, about which the famous historian Stanislav Khatuntsev in the newspaper "News" says so:

“October 1 killed the Libyan Air Force Col. Mohammed al-Andalusi al-Sushi and wounded his mother. The Russian woman E. Ustyuzhaninova, a fan of another Libyan colonel, incomparably better known to the world, was detained and accused of a crime. Is she a real killer or not, the question is in many ways a rhetorical one. In the hands of local militants, she could confess not only to the attack on Al-Sushi’s house, but also to the murder of Pope, Pharaoh Snofra, the Prophet Muhammad, and even her idol Gaddafi. Nevertheless, the next evening, a mob of armed Libyans, under the pretext of taking revenge for the death of al-Sushi, attacks the Russian embassy. The "outraged" act in a very professional manner, being perfectly oriented in the territory of the diplomatic complex and promptly destroying the surveillance cameras available there. "

The Libyan authorities, as always, are powerless. The Russian embassy is being evacuated to Tunisia, from there the October 4 flies to Moscow. History with Ustyuzhaninovoy and the Russian Embassy paralyzed communications between Moscow and Tripoli.

However, in Libya it is unlikely that it "shines" to foreign oil companies. And Libya itself is hardly likely to “shine.” Stanislav Khatuntsev in one paragraph described the future of this country:

“However, there is no country as such now. There is a territory marked on the world map under the nickname "Libya". In Africa, this area already exists. It collapsed in the early 1990-ies of Somalia. But the prospects for Somalia compared to what shines the former Jamahiriya, for me personally, seem to be a little more bright. There are several secular centers of power that control the order on the lands they occupy, perhaps more effectively than Tripoli, and the central government, albeit with the help from abroad, successfully fights against terrorists who at one time were close to victory. In Libya, compared to the quarter-century ordeals of Somalia, as in Santa Barbara, everything is just beginning. ”

In essence, we will add in conclusion that the West has launched a permanent revolution in Libya, which is now being devoured by the revolutionaries themselves. The media often wrote that the NATO countries were going after the overthrow of Gaddafi to profit from the resources of Libya - primarily high-quality oil. And what is the result? Today, Western investors are not only not in a hurry to invest capital in a country torn by internal struggles, both economic and tribal, but also one after the other go back home, preferring less money, but life is quieter.

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  1. avt
    avt 17 October 2013 09: 29
    The title of the article misleads readers and justifies the aggressors voluntarily or not voluntarily. They did as they wanted. They did the rest. PR bluff to the public.
    1. SHILO
      SHILO 17 October 2013 10: 06
      For these "sins" Gaddafi was killed:

      1. Gasoline costs less than water. 1 liter of gasoline - 0,14 $
      2. Newlyweds are given 64 000 $ to purchase an apartment.
      3. Education and medicine are completely free.
      4. For each family member, the state pays 1 000 $ subsidies per year.
      5. Unemployment Benefit - 730 $.
      6. He closed the military bases of NATO.
      7. Nurse Salary - 1 000 $.
      8. For each newborn, 7 000 $ is paid.
      9. For the opening of a personal business, one-time financial assistance is 20 000 $.
      10. Large taxes and requisitions are prohibited.
      11. GDP per capita - 14 192 $
      12. Education and internship abroad - at the expense of the state.
      13. A chain of stores for large families with symbolic prices for basic foodstuffs.
      14. For the sale of products with an expired shelf life - heavy fines and detention by special police units.
      15. Part of pharmacies has a free supply of medicines.
      16. For counterfeiting drugs - the death penalty.
      17. The rent is absent.
      18. There is no electricity charge for the population.
      19. The sale and consumption of alcohol is prohibited - “dry law”.
      20. Loans for the purchase of a car and an apartment are interest-free.
      21. Realtor services are prohibited.
      22. The state pays for the purchase of a car up to 50%, and for the militia fighters - 65%.
      23. Having come to power, he expelled int. corporations.

      Only under Muammar did Negroes in southern Libya gain human rights.
      Over the forty years of his reign, the population of Libya has tripled.
      Child mortality has decreased 9 times.
      Life expectancy in the country has increased from 51,5 to 74,5 years.
      Gaddafi decided to withdraw Libya from the world banking system and 12 Arab countries wanted to follow his example.

      Nude and how could this be endured?
      1. APES
        APES 17 October 2013 10: 58
        Libya was destroyed because of the Great Man-Made River - Muammar Gaddafi called this river the Eighth Wonder of the World - fresh water reserves were estimated at tens of trillions of dollars. At that time, Saudi Arabia was selling drinking water to Africa at a price of 5 dollars / bar.
        The first thing they started to bomb, on the pretext that it can be used to hide military equipment, soldiers, etc. etc.
        It was built for 25 years. Drinking water for Africa is a key resource, if it was received by Gaddafi, he could unite the African continent - for some it would be very unprofitable. All other reasons are a trifle compared to this.
        At the moment - the whole project is destroyed.
        1. atalef
          atalef 17 October 2013 11: 02
          Libya was destroyed because of the Great Man-Made River - Muammar Gaddafi called this river the Eighth Wonder of the World - fresh water reserves were estimated at tens of trillions of dollars. At that time, Saudi Arabia was selling drinking water to Africa at a price of 5 dollars / bar.

          I only want to ask one question (more precisely -2) How did Saudia sell water to Libya? Saudi’s own water is not enough, but there are other sources of water closer to Libya (the same Nile for starters). You wrote the most interesting thing: you didn’t even sell to Libya (that’s nonsense), but it turns out to be all over Africa laughing
          1. APES
            APES 17 October 2013 11: 17
            Water desalination plants along the coast - selling water is becoming a profitable business and not only Saudis are doing this (cited 10 trillion as an example for justification, showed the price of fresh water)
            but where did I say that in all?
            regarding the Gaddafi River - its volume (fresh water) - the Nile is resting, in the sense that there is not enough Nile for the whole of Africa)
          2. newnutella
            newnutella 17 October 2013 14: 00
            Evidence regarding bulk water. Monsieur atafel - do not dust and do not be foolish. first read the publications.
        2. Syrdon
          Syrdon 17 October 2013 13: 40
          my wife’s father devoted 7 years of his life to the construction of this overpass.
    2. Civil
      Civil 17 October 2013 10: 28
      And if they wanted something better, that’s the question!
      1. densh
        densh 17 October 2013 12: 39
        It’s just that the small local kings wanted the sole possession of oil revenues. And all the rest can go to Allah.
        1. e3tozy
          e3tozy 17 October 2013 23: 17
          Absolutely right. Appetite comes with eating
    3. AVV
      AVV 18 October 2013 11: 31
      They wanted the best, Better for themselves, and not for the people, But it turned out as always, neither for themselves nor for the people1! What the people lost and what they got read below !!! For what sins Gaddafi destroyed! And what did the American democratization result in return and french !!!
  2. Orik
    Orik 17 October 2013 09: 55
    For that fought for it and ran. The result was predictable, striking the idiocy of the majority who lived under Gaddafi's "communism".
    1. a52333
      a52333 17 October 2013 09: 57
      One word!!! That's who came from the monkeys. And DOES NOT WANT to climb the evolutionary ladder
      The strike was "launched" at the end of July by the very "rebels" who overthrew Gaddafi.
      And how can these monkeys be called humans?
      1. I think so
        I think so 17 October 2013 17: 38
        What about Russia? Well, in the sense of the Soviet people? What can they be called? They equally profiled their property and wealth, and now they are tumbling in shit ... and there is no end in sight ... they’ll get deeper and deeper in the ass ... They themselves cannot feed themselves ...
    2. Ascetic
      Ascetic 17 October 2013 13: 56
      Quote: Orik
      For that fought for it and ran. The result was predictable, striking the idiocy of the majority who lived under Gaddafi's "communism".

      This is a general trend for some reason. Now who you can’t talk to from the representatives of the now independent fraternal republics of Central Asia and the Caucasus, everyone says that under the Union they lived like communism. Older people probably will not let lie what living standards and welfare of the population was in nat. suburbs and which in the Russian outback.

      By the way, the Islamist militants really planned to seize our embassy in Tripoli and arrange for a representative execution of the ambassador following the example of the American one.
      It was like a military operation. Two cars with a dozen armed people drove up to the embassy entrance. They opened fire from machine guns and grenade launchers and broke into the territory of the embassy. But there were stopped by the return fire of the guard,

      The elite special unit "Zaslon" of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service is modestly encrypted under guard, which repulsed the attack without any help and carried out the evacuation of the employees.
      In 1998, under the director of the SVR, a new power unit was created - the formation was named "Barrier". It consisted of nearly three hundred people who had previously been involved in special operations abroad.
      Armed with a new group no worse than the legendary "Alpha". Its employees are constantly on round-the-clock duty; several dozen new Land Rovers have already entered the mobile departments of this formation. It is assumed that the "Zaslon" will be used to provide force support for the operations carried out by intelligence, since due to the increased secrecy of its activities, sometimes there are discrepancies with other Russian special services. Fearing a possible leak of information, the consequences of which are most difficult for the SVR, the intelligence officers cannot inform other security officials about their plans.
      Separate special operations carried out by Zaslon, the removal of Russian citizens from hot spots in Africa.

  3. Stiletto
    Stiletto 17 October 2013 09: 56
    The aggressors, admittedly, have achieved their goal. They don't care about blood, they don't care about instability. The main thing for them is that there is oil underneath it all. And, taking advantage of instability, at any time you can take it, hiding behind the rotten rag of pseudo-democracy. "Doves, bringing peace to the Middle East" are still going to shit.
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 17 October 2013 20: 33
      That's right. For some reason, the author decided that the aggressors (what kind of revolution? Delirium) did not achieve their goal. He simply does not take into account the fact that Libyans are not needed at all for oil production. At the moment, they are self-destructing, that is, exactly what was planned. If there is a desire, in a couple of years it will be possible to use the remaining residents in the work. It will not - it will be possible to shoot with impunity all who interfere with production. Simple and win-win.
      The only mistake that the inventors made was Russia. Looks like it was believed that in the international arena we are completely sintered. This is the old scenario of the West - internecine war, during which there is a robbery of the territory to black hair. But we have not died yet ... There is someone to turn to those who do not want the same terrible fate. The error came out ...
  4. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 17 October 2013 10: 05
    Dima iPhone passed Libya like ebn Serbia.
    All this, unfortunately, will have long and negative consequences not only for the region.
    1. alekseyal
      alekseyal 17 October 2013 12: 21
      If Medvedev were still the president, or feel the difference

      Libya and Syria are two Middle Eastern countries. In both countries, a civil war broke out, which became possible ONLY thanks to financial and military assistance from outside. But Libya was crushed with the legitimacy of the actions of the United States and its allies, and Syria still stands and a blow to it (if it happens) will be an act of real international robbery.

      Libya fell because Russia and China took a position of neutrality. Syria stands because Russia and China have thrown neutrality aside and are helping the legitimate authorities of Syria. They deliver weapons, help with advice, and provide diplomatic support.
      1. Peaceful military
        Peaceful military 17 October 2013 12: 28
        Air Defense, N. Starikov and yousoldiergood
        1. alekseyal
          alekseyal 17 October 2013 18: 36
          Join our ranks smile
          Party program on one page.

      2. Syrdon
        Syrdon 17 October 2013 13: 43
        Of course, the iPhone passed to Libya, but Gaddafi himself was, let's say, not quite loyal to us, he wanted both ours and yours, but it didn't work out that "yours" ate it with giblets and bombed the country in the Stone Age.
        1. Peaceful military
          Peaceful military 17 October 2013 14: 35
          but Gaddafi himself was, shall we say, not quite loyal to us, he wanted both ours and yours, but it did not work out "yours" ate him with giblets and the country was bombed in the Stone Age.

          It's like that.
          "Democratized something" not because of Gaddafi and Russia not because of him surrendered Libya.
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 18 October 2013 10: 15
            "Democratized something" not because of Gaddafi and Russia not because of him surrendered Libya.

            But Russia surrendered precisely because of him. There was no tandem, there was no showdown between DAM and GDP. What GDP said, then DAM did. Gaddafi, with all due respect to him, outwitted himself. I would hold on tightly as Assad to Russia, figs would have passed it.
      3. timer
        timer 17 October 2013 23: 15
        I agree. Let’s add, Libya will fall into several pieces. Russia and China are to blame.
        1. anip
          anip 18 October 2013 05: 21
          Quote: timer
          I’ll add that Libya will fall into several pieces. Russia and China are to blame for this.

          Why, then, not include, for example, Guinea-Bissau or Tanzania among the guilty?
          And those who bombed Libya into "democracy" are so, nonsense, this has nothing to do with it, but Russia and China, yes, are the main culprits of what has become of Libya now.
          But do not you think that you wrote complete nonsense?
  5. Snoop
    Snoop 17 October 2013 10: 12
    But the people I did not understand at all ... they lived in such conditions ... they needed to tear their throats for Gaddafi. And now they will wash themselves with blood in a civil war and will remember it more than once. Surely, regardless of the internal showdowns, they will live as they would not have lived before.
    1. Gomunkul
      Gomunkul 17 October 2013 16: 35
      But the people I did not understand at all ... they lived in such conditions ... they had to tear their throats for Gaddafi
      So we have a folk wisdom for this: they started to rave about fat. hi
    2. alicante11
      alicante11 18 October 2013 10: 19
      Well, so they fought for Gaddafi in Sirte, Bani Walid, Sebha. But you can’t fight a lot against NATO with the Kalash that Gaddafi distributed.
  6. Trevis
    Trevis 17 October 2013 10: 14
    Gaddafi's main sin was the desire to disown the dollar. S ... the Yankees have not forgiven!
  7. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 17 October 2013 10: 18
    Libya will soon be occupied in the interests of mining companies. Either officially or by private armies. Find a pretext for the occupation of a country with oil, as practice has shown
  8. skeptic-
    skeptic- 17 October 2013 10: 20
    The West launched a permanent revolution in Libya, which now eats the revolutionaries themselves. The media often wrote that, after the overthrow of Gaddafi, NATO countries were going to profit from Libyan resources - primarily high-quality oil. And what is the result?

    And in the end, there is a self-cleaning of scumbags. After the completion of the process, the West will agree or eliminate the winners of the "cockroach race" and take, for next to nothing, all the deposits of Libya. More or less like this. wink
  9. Ddhal
    Ddhal 17 October 2013 10: 52
    Recently, all the problems of the states are connected with the lack of worthy candidates loyal to them for leadership positions in destabilized countries .. "Rejecting - offer" does not work, because radicals are an inadequate substance. This has never happened before. All sponsored revolutions brought state henchmen to power. So chaos is beneficial to someone.
    Conclusion: the apparent failure of the strategic doctrine of the states in the Middle East is just the tip of the iceberg of the big plan for changing the world order by a certain community, which Russia is in the way of.
  10. TROG
    TROG 17 October 2013 11: 25
    We wanted the best, but it turned out - as always

    Yes, and they did not want the best.
  11. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 17 October 2013 11: 39
    The West has achieved its goal - it has destroyed an objectionable leader and a country that tried to live independently of them; France did not have to repay debts; weapon barons are happy; and oil on the black market is cheaper! hi
    1. e3tozy
      e3tozy 17 October 2013 23: 44
      The most terrible thing is that their brakes broke, they are settling down in Afghanistan for a reason, and for no reason their propagandists appear in Russian mosques, all these events are links of one chain. They are already fully engaged in our fifth column.
  12. aszzz888
    aszzz888 17 October 2013 11: 52
    Democracy did not appear in Libya either - in fact there is not so much representative, but generally no power. There is only the struggle of various groups for oil, weapons and territories.

    What a democracy in FIG! Gangster on a gangster and everyone is fighting for the loot. The mericatos did well in the reeds. Rake who wants them without a rider!
  13. knn54
    knn54 17 October 2013 12: 13
    -SHILO: But how could this be endured?
    “We do not want to overthrow the government of Bahrain or Saudi Arabia, where both governments use violence against protesters because they are our puppets, and in Bahrain we have a large naval base. We want to overthrow Gaddafi in Libya and Assad in Syria because we want to expel China and Russia from the Mediterranean, ”Republican Paul Craig Roberts, former US Under Secretary of Treasury at the Ronald Reagan administration.
    Of the 20 Mediterranean countries to date, only three have not been part of NATO and are not tied to the North Atlantic Alliance with “partnership” programs. These are Libya, Lebanon and Syria.
    Muammar Gaddafi proposed the creation of a single army and a common government for all of Africa -
    that is, he proposed an alternative to the American project of globalization.
    It was the intention of the leader of the Libyan Jamahiriya to switch to settlements in the "golden dinars."
    And how many “cannon fodder” appeared, there’s nowhere to work, and the family needs to be maintained ...
    PS Russia has plans to bombard Qatar and Saudi Arabia:
  14. Altona
    Altona 17 October 2013 12: 37
    Until the Gaddaf clan returns to power, everything will be so ... The country has already disintegrated into Tripolitania and Cyrenaica, and God knows what else, now it has completely disintegrated, and the "liberated" tribes are pressing on the border territories of other states ...
  15. Dan master
    Dan master 17 October 2013 13: 32
    why Qadafi was killed, one of the reasons
  16. zinander
    zinander 17 October 2013 17: 41
    Gangster lawlessness at the state level. The once successful country was returned to the Stone Age and everyone is happy .... shit, damn it ...
  17. Glory333
    Glory333 17 October 2013 20: 42
    The article still misinforms readers, the current production of 1.4 million barrels per day is not at all 10% of the previous oil production, but rather 90%. "Before the war of 2011, which led to the overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi, the country was producing 1,6 million barrels daily." (C)
    All the talk about the multiple drop in oil production is just an attempt to justify the catastrophic drop in the Libyan budget revenues caused by the plundering of Libya's oil wealth by transnational campaigns - after all, for this, the Libyan "revolution" was started.
  18. Megatron
    Megatron 17 October 2013 23: 05
    Oh well, let them not get it, let the oil go up, it’s only better for us.