10 photos from strategypage.com from October 8 2013 year

1. Engine check

Gulf of Oman (September 26, 2013), technicians from the intermediate aircraft maintenance department oversee a jet engine test aboard the USS Harry S. Truman aircraft carrier (CVN 75). Harry S. Truman leads the eponymous carrier carrier group deployed as part of the 5th American fleetwhose responsibility is to promote the safety of maritime operations and support missions as part of Operation Enduring Freedom. (Photo by 3rd Class Media Specialist Christopher A. Morrison, United States Navy)

2. QF- 16, ready for death

The QF-16 full-scale air target from the 82 airborne target squadron flies over the Gulf of Mexico during its first unmanned flight at Tyndale, Florida, 19 September, 2013. 82-I uses exclusively full-scale air targets. According to the operators, QF-16 will provide insight into the real threats of fourth-generation fighters for the purpose of testing and training. (Photo by master sergeant J. Scott Wilcox (J. Scott Wilcox), USAF)

3. Camel movement

US Army Sergeant Alva Gwinn, left, and Private Clayton Baldwin from the 87 Engineering Company watch the camels of the Shekhabad Bridge during their demining mission in the Wardak province, Afghanistan, 12, August 2013. of the year. Americans and their Afghan partners regularly conduct demining missions in order to maintain freedom of movement for military and civilian traffic. (Photo by 1 th Lt. Yau-Liong Tsau, US Army)

4. New near the old

The RQ-4 Global Hawk UAV is preparing for takeoff while the U-2 scout approaches the 17 on September 2013 of September at Beale, California. RQ-4 and Y-2 are the main high-altitude reconnaissance, surveillance and reconnaissance aircraft. (Photo by 1 class Bobby Cummings, USAF)

5. SM-3 Block 1B Missile Defense Tests

The Pacific Ocean (18 September 2013 of the year) launched the SM-3 Block 1B interceptor from the USS Lake Erie missile cruiser (CG 70) during a test of the Missile Defense Agency successfully hit the target of an operational-tactical ballistic missile on the coast of Kauai, Hawaii. (Photo by the US Department of Defense)

6. Mixed with terrain

Soldiers from the company of Gunfighter, 1 Battalion, 506 Infantry Regiment, 4 Brigade Tactical Group, 101 Airborne Division, climb the mountainside to ensure the safety of adjacent units in the vicinity of the forward base Wilderness, Paktia Province, Afghanistan, September 1 2013 year. Soldiers ensure the safety of the 555 Engineer Brigade, which builds the Mabey-Johnson bridge over Khost-Gardez. (Photo by Sergeant Justin Moiler (Justin Moeller), US Army)

7. Dust

Marines of Alpha Company, 1st Tank Battalion, 1st Marine Division move to tank M1A1 Abrams to his goal during the Golden Eagle 2013 exercises on September 14, 2013. The exercises are annual, company and joint with the Australian Army and the Marine Corps. Such an exchange allows us to strengthen military-technical cooperation and combat skills. (Photo by Sergeant Sarah Fiocco)

8. Takeoff Freedom

The 22 aircraft participated in the "Freedom Takeoff" of the 11 on September 2013 at the Travis Airbase, State California. Seven C-17 Globemaster III, eleven KC-10 Extender and four C-5B Galaxies from the 60th air wing aviation mobility lined up in what is historically called the "elephant walk", then sequentially took off for 36 minutes to participate in the exercises. The first plane in the C-17 line took off at 8:46, while terrorists attacked the north tower of the World Trade Center in New York 12 years ago. (Photo by Ken Wright, U.S. Air Force)


9. Deafening!

A US Army soldier (left) from Battery B, 5 Battalion, 25 Field Field Artillery Regiment, 4 Brigade Tactical Group, 10 Mountain Division watches the 122 mm D-30 howitzer fired by a soldier of the Afghan National Army from 4 Company, 3 Brigade, 201 Corps in the process of certification exercises at the forward operational base Tagab, Kapisa Province, Afghanistan, 5 September 2013. Battery B, deployed at the leading operational base of Gamberi in Laghman province, trains artillery soldiers from all over Eastern Afghanistan to properly handle the Soviet-made D-30 howitzer capable of hitting targets at a distance of more than 15. (Photo by Sergeant Margaret Taylor (Margaret Taylor), 129 Mobile Communications Division of the US National Guard)

10. Saberhawk

Pacific Ocean (13 September 2013 of the year) the MH-60R Sea Hawk helicopter from the 77 th Saberhawks XHUMX helicopter maritime strike squadron lands on the flight deck of the aircraft carrier George Washington (CVN 73) during the wing wing exercise. George Washington and the 5-wing deployed on it form the combat-ready forces serving the collective maritime interests of the US and its allies and partners in the Indo-Asia-Pacific region. (Photo by an 3 Mass Communications Class Specialist Ranon G. Go. (Ramon G. Go), US Navy)

Comments

[xetai9977]

Thanks to the author for an interesting selection of photos.

[leon-iv]

And Yes D-30 Livelier than all living

[Professor]

Quote: leon-iv

And Yes D-30 Livelier than all living

Well, the Americans do not want to arm the Afghans with their equipment. They bought Mi-8s, then howitzers. Why's that?

[leon-iv]

Why did it happen?

she was offered. The Afghans flatly refused. Only the D-30 was there and scooped up the remains from all sorts of Bulgarians and Romanians. True, Americans raped their gesheft by painting and type, having modernized them.
And the Mi-8/17 there simply out of competition is recognized by the Americans themselves. Thanks to high-altitude engines, they can be based on high-altitude platforms. Too lazy to look for a table
But in my opinion Sikorsky up to 2 ~ 2,5 km can start up and Mi 3,5 km but I can make a mistake.

[igor67]

Quote: leon-iv

Why did it happen?

she was offered. The Afghans flatly refused. Only the D-30 was there and scooped up the remains from all sorts of Bulgarians and Romanians. True, Americans raped their gesheft by painting and type, having modernized them.
And the Mi-8/17 there simply out of competition is recognized by the Americans themselves. Thanks to high-altitude engines, they can be based on high-altitude platforms. Too lazy to look for a table
But in my opinion Sikorsky up to 2 ~ 2,5 km can start up and Mi 3,5 km but I can make a mistake.

Hi buddy, plus the price and simplicity of cars, it’s a little expensive to retrain Afghans on American cars, and they’ve already taught you how to fly Boeing

[leon-iv]

Or here is a super photo

[igor67]

Quote: leon-iv

Or here is a super photo

My friend, I still meant the boorish comment of Eugene, why not separately upload the pictures myself in a single article about the modern Russian army? Many times such rude comments about these articles of the professor (Oleg), After all, there is still no such article.

[igor67]

Here's an example: driver mechanic Igor Kutergin overcoming pain helps the crew in tank biathlon competitions, etc.

[Alex 241]

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[Professor]

Quote: leon-iv

she was offered. The Afghans flatly refused.

Cool joke. Show me the one who will refuse free Blackhawks.

Quote: leon-iv

Too lazy to look for a table

Do not look. I myself saw how the Mi-8 in the Himalayas flew where no one else patched. In fairness, it is worth noting that the Nepalese simply did not have Blackhawks.
However, it seems to me that the Americans are preparing a bridgehead after their exit from Afghanistan. Guess who will take their place.

Quote: igor67

retrain Afghans on American cars a little expensive

There was no one to retrain there already. Learned again.

[Rider]

Quote: professor

laughing Cool joke. Show me the one who will refuse free Blackhawks.

Well, I won’t say for hawks. but it seems to me that they were waiting for the same fate as 16 Italian transport C-27A.

It was decided to transfer all Afghan S-27A aircraft for disposal. Total US expenditures for the entire S-27A supply program for Afghanistan, their operation, support and supply, training for Afghan personnel, etc. amounted to almost 600 million dollars, which ended up being thrown into the wind

http://warfiles.ru/show-20995-okonchatelnoe-fiasko-s-afganskimi-samoletami-s-27a
.html

cut forever.

[leon-iv]

Cool joke. Show me the one who will refuse free Blackhawks.

it was about howitzers. And about vertically everything turned out from the experience of using European and Amerian technology. The US military-industrial complex really wanted to drive its wagons to the Afghans. Those stood in a pose is not necessary and all. The congress is still stinking. + The cost of a flight hour at Blackhawk is more expensive.
Found everything. MI-17V-5 3850 static ceiling
The blackhawk UH-60M 1,831 m as they say comments are superfluous.

[Professor]

Quote: leon-iv

Found everything. MI-17V-5 3850 static ceiling
The blackhawk UH-60M 1,831 m as they say comments are superfluous.

Not so simple. Nobody offered blackhawks to Afghans at all, about the eights for them I already laid out the article and affirmed in the opinion that all this was connected with the upcoming retreat.

[The Indian Joe]

Professor, I apologize for the offtopic, but just one thought haunts you.
Let me remind you that you once said to me, "Let the Jews decide for themselves which of them is a Jew," arguing with quotations and references to the works of Jewish leaders.

Tell me, why should we (all non-Jews) listen to one side and reject the opinion of the other? There are two sides - Jews by birth, calling themselves Jews, and Jews as you are believers, who consider themselves Jews for this reason. For us, all of you are Jews, regardless of your faith. I am interested in your opinion as a believing Jew.

[Professor]

Quote: Native American Joe

Professor, I apologize for the offtopic, but just one thought haunts you.
Let me remind you that you once said to me, "Let the Jews decide for themselves which of them is a Jew," arguing with quotations and references to the works of Jewish leaders.

Tell me, why should we (all non-Jews) listen to one side and reject the opinion of the other? There are two sides - Jews by birth, calling themselves Jews, and Jews as you are believers, who consider themselves Jews for this reason. For us, all of you are Jews, regardless of your faith. I am interested in your opinion as a believing Jew.

Let's say that I am a believing Jew. By the way, the Jews practically do not have such a concept. There are religious Jews and non-religious ones. The paradox is that even a religious Jew is not required to believe in God, but only to keep the commandments. Neither where nor in any of the Rabbi's sermons does it say "believe," but only observe. For Christians it is different, but for Muslims it is generally different. So let's imagine that we live in a community. We eat one spiritual bread and equally pray to one God. And here comes the type and who neither sleep nor spirit comes to us and declares that he belongs to our community. And other communities do not mind. In your opinion, it turns out that we do not need to ask?

I repeat. Jews and only Jews can decide who is Jewish and who is not. Like the Japanese and only they decide who is Japanese and who is not. Tomorrow it will occur to me that I am Japanese, despite the fact that I have never even been there, I don’t know history, traditions, language, etc., and everyone will have to agree with this? So why should YOU (all non-Jews) listen to one side and reject the other? Because the community determines its essence, and not a separate individual who does not belong to it, or even belongs to it, determines the whole essence of the community. There are no two sides - Jews by origin, who call themselves Jews, and Jews "like me" - believers who consider themselves Jews for this very reason. There are either Jews or goyim (not Jews). Again, there are no Muslim Jews, Christian Jews, or Gentile Jews. It doesn't matter who the parents of a Jew were (even if they were rabbis), when he adopts another religion he ceases to be not only a Jew, but also a Jew.

For you, are we Jews, regardless of our faith? But you do not decide anything. We solve it. Just like the Jews do not decide who is Russian and who is not. Such a breakdown.

[The Indian Joe]

Let's say I'm a Jewish Jew

- not allow, but, let's say, a Judaist. Well, you understand what I meant, I just don’t understand how you can keep the commandments and not believe in the God who gave them to you. But these are the details.

And here comes the type and which to us, neither with a dream nor with a spirit, and declares that it belongs to our community

- Amendment, not to the community, but to the people. A people is a somewhat larger concept than a community, don't you find? Read the meaning of both terms on the wiki, but for now, your example is incorrect.

Jews and only Jews can decide who is Jewish

- you, I see, are somewhat forgotten, I will put you in your place. Jews and only Jews can decide who is a Jew, ONLY BETWEEN YOURSELF AND ONLY FOR YOURSELF, "for internal use." And all other peoples, who are not Jews, can have their own point of view, who is a Jew and who is not, I made it clear? If a part of the Jewish people does not agree with the opinion of the outside majority, these are their problems, and they cannot influence the opinion of the outside majority.

For you, are we Jews, regardless of our faith?

- absolutely right.

But you do not decide anything. We solve it

- you haven’t decided anything, as far as the opinion of you of other peoples is, you do not decide, and you will not decide. You can only express your disagreement with this opinion (which you did), but you are not able to change it and are not able to.

Just like the Jews do not decide who is Russian and who is not

- That for God's sake, decide on your health, you have every right to your opinion. All the same, your point of view will be the point of view of one of many peoples, and not the opinion of all.
In the meantime, the opinion of very, very many people and peoples about Jews (and not only about them) - if a person, by virtue of his origin, and a number of other details, relates himself to any of the peoples, he is considered to belong to this people - outside depending on what part of this people thinks of him.
Thank you for your communication, I understood your point of view and expressed mine, all the best.

[Professor]

Quote: Injun Joe

Thank you for your communication, I understood your point of view and expressed mine, all the best.

Please, your opinion on this issue does not interest me at all.

[Mikkado31]

These are generally different type helicopters.

[Professor]

Quote: mikkado31

These are generally different type helicopters.

In fact, they are not different, both multipurpose military transport are of the same class.

[Mikkado31]

They didn’t buy and gave away what was left of the Czechs, Romanians, Poles and others.

[AK-47]

Quote: igor67

... photos of the Russian armed forces ...

[leon-iv]

eplewke
Are you nervous?

[Professor]

Quote: eplewke

You can put your pictures in your ass, comrade professor ...

You are not my friend.

[eplewke]

I generally try to avoid the Jews ...

[il grand casino]

Quote: eplewke

I generally try to avoid the Jews ...

That's right, why decent people look at you))
On the topic - thanks to the prof for the article. If you hadn’t laid them out here, then there would be nowhere to arrange srach in comments))) And so much fun))

[Professor]

Quote: il grand casino

If you hadn’t laid them out here, there would be nowhere to arrange srach in comments

Here you are wrong, the boor will always find where to cheat.

[il grand casino]

Quote: professor

Quote: il grand casino

If you hadn’t laid them out here, there would be nowhere to arrange srach in comments

Here you are wrong, the boor will always find where to cheat.

Well, I'm not talking about boors ... by the word srach I meant a dispute of several parties on an interesting topic)))

[eplewke]

The point is this, in order to fill in more liquid caustic and odorous mixture by sowing pro-American posts. At the same time, neighing over you ... Aha ha !!! Keep posting, it amuses me ...

[Rider]

Quote: eplewke

The point is this, to fill ... sowing pro-American posts. At the same time neighing over you ...

yes calm down you Eugene.
be restrained.
I’m telling you like an anti-Semite anti-Semite.

This article is relevant to this resource.
if it is not interesting to you, then it is quite possible not to read it.
and Prof, a very interesting conversationalist, and very educated, rarely anyone managed to send him KNOWLEDGE to knockout.

besides, he has such a job.

[Professor]

Quote: Rider

besides, he has such a job.

Work is a paid activity, but I do it absolutely free.

PS
If some tryndets thinks that I especially select photos, then let him first take a walk through the link attached to the article and make sure that I post everything in a row with rare exceptions, for example such.

http://www.strategypage.com/military_photos/2013093010612.aspx

[Rider]

Quote: professor

I do it absolutely free.

come on you prof, well then I can (in my ear) I won’t tell anyone.

[eplewke]

Well, I’ll repeat it once more !!! Fasting is full homo and bullshit !!! Drive the fifth column out of you with a filthy broom !!!

[Papakiko]

Quote: Rider

Prof, a very interesting interlocutor, and very educated, rarely anyone was able to send him KNOWLEDGE to knockout.

I will answer you so about Professor Herrr:

Once in a similar photographic theme, HerrrProfessor pretty much went wrong and now his collections are more carefully selected. And he blacklisted those who were not acceptable (for example, me).
And after one incident with a photograph of some kind of F -... that same F -.... or similar crashed. Therefore, I sincerely hope that the photos posted by GerProfessor accumulate energy and project onto these wafers. For many years, the brood with photo number 8, hatya all ten of them will not be high.

[Rider]

Quote: Papakiko

. And he blacklisted those who were not acceptable (for example, me).

well, this is a common practice, three of me have already been "banned"

besides, the prof has a bad habit of going into "denial",
that is, what the state of Israel did not recognize, respectively, it was not.
as in the case of the bombing of Syria, Tsakhal did not admit the fact of the bombing, which means that they were carried out by someone else.

(like - Martians stood up for the chosen people)

[Professor]

Quote: Rider

besides, the prof has a bad habit of going into "denial",
that is, what the state of Israel did not recognize, respectively, it was not.
as in the case of the bombing of Syria, Tsakhal did not admit the fact of the bombing, which means that they were carried out by someone else.

Not so, dear. No material evidence and confession means the rest of verbiage.

[Rider]

Quote: professor

There is no material evidence and confession means the rest of verbiage.

here prof, not caught - not a thief.

this we have already passed, not worth the second time.

[eplewke]

Then let it spread its der * mo somewhere else! On Israeli sites. What the hell are they doing in RuNet? What have you forgotten? Are you messed up at home? Or, as usual with Jews: dad - Russian, mother - Ukrainian, myself - a Jew, I live in Israel ?? Brrr !!!

[Professor]

Quote: eplewke

Then let it spread its der * mo somewhere else! On Israeli sites. What the hell are they doing in RuNet? What have you forgotten? Are you messed up at home?

Contact the League of Sexual Minorities or contact the site administration to ban me.

Quote: eplewke

Or, as usual with the Jews: dad - Russian, mother - Ukrainian, myself - a Jew, I live in Israel?

Likbez. Pass the giyur and no matter who mom and dad (dad is Russian, mom is Ukrainian) become a Jew. Maybe in your person the Jewish people will acquire another Nobel laureate.
http://www.newsru.co.il/world/09oct2013/nobel_ch_110.html

[Volkolak]

Quote: Rider

rarely did anyone manage to send him KNOWLEDGE.

This saboteur (prokhessor) was repeatedly caught in a lie. So he is caught more than once.

[Rider]

Quote: VOLKOLAK

So he is caught more than once.

I quite believe.

[Professor]

Quote: Rider

I quite believe.

But you do not believe the word of liars, but ask for examples.

[Volkolak]

Quote: eplewke

The point is this, to fill in more liquid caustic and odorous mixture by sowing pro-American posts.

Yes, this is their work, they have a gesheft from this.

[rolik]

Quote: eplewke

The point is this, to pour more liquid caustic and odorous mixture by sowing pro-American posts

And we will place such a thing in reply)))))
This is Vikramaditya before testing her take-off and landing equipment. Barents Sea.

[rolik]

And here's another interesting one.
For the first time, a special alloy bearing was made at the enterprise. this bearing was made for a minesweeper. In addition, a bearing project is being developed for the icebreaker of project 22220, the construction of which will be carried out at the Baltic Shipyard. And in the future, on the basis of the enterprise, it is planned to create a Competence Center for ship bearings.

[rolik]

Quote: il grand casino

Well, I'm not talking about boors ... by the word srach I meant a dispute of several parties on an interesting topic))

The professor is a normal conversationalist. Well, it comes down to the last)))) so it’s necessary to welcome it, and what now is blaming it for him ??? ))) Everyone has that point of view .... which then has it))))) And to argue with him, it’s very, very interesting.
Greetings Professor))))

[eplewke]

No. Ham only on these posts is rude. Because the posts are spotted - srach!

[Canep]

Quote: il grand casino

then there would be nowhere to arrange srach in comments

This is to the point.

[rolik]

Quote: eplewke

I generally try to get around the Jews.

It is much better if they will bypass you)))))

[pensioner]

Hello Professor!

Quote: eplewke

You can put your pictures in your ass, comrade professor ...

Quote: professor

You are not my friend.

What if he can? Here you need to think ... Maybe it's easier to recognize as a comrade?

[Volkolak]

Quote: eplewke

You can put your pictures in your ass, comrade professor ...

Yes, and their subversive activities are also there. Why have you minus a person? That everyone is working for Israel's Ministry of Absorption? Like this "Abwehr saboteur". I beg your pardon, I was mistaken, "TsAKHALovskiy saboteur", although this is the same thing.

[Cesar_Xnumx]

Americans like to call any tactical rifle with big names. An idiotic habit.

[Canep]

Good to you Professor. The 9th photo is super.

[darksoul]

I would organize a similar section with the addition of interesting photographs of our soldiers and military equipment .... it’s beautiful of course like 22 planes on takeoff, but we should be proud of our army and not a friend in quotes, an enemy in fact

[Zhenya]

Stas, but one thing! We would have to equip pind with ovs, he himself played in it, more convenient than German.

[Srgsoap]

I agree completely, comfortable, ergonomic and very practical.

[pensioner]

Quote: SrgSoap

I agree completely, comfortable, ergonomic and very practical.

Not a military man. It’s just that I once taught physics at EVACU. I often communicate with my former cadets (who are now colonel, who are still major, and who are retired ...). Everyone says that the Amer form is good if you don’t go far. It is made to move on technology. What difference does it make in wearing uniforms on equipment and walking, I don’t know. Fair. But my former cadet, who was an art corrector in ... and showed off in Amer’s uniform, regretted that he was not in ours. I am not in terms of denigrating the American approach to equipping my soldiers. But something specific in the equipment is definitely present. What suits them does not always fit our army and vice versa. Sorry amateur ...

[igor67]

And I like the first photo, the test of the engine, I wonder how it is with noise isolation, we had a stationary test and that was a terrible rumble, but here on an aircraft carrier inside the metal case

[Professor]

Quote: igor67

And I like the first photo, the test of the engine, I wonder how it is with noise isolation, we had a stationary test and that was a terrible rumble, but here on an aircraft carrier inside the metal case

It's not inside, see the rail railing of the deck?

[igor67]

Quote: professor

Quote: igor67

And I like the first photo, the test of the engine, I wonder how it is with noise isolation, we had a stationary test and that was a terrible rumble, but here on an aircraft carrier inside the metal case

It's not inside, see the rail railing of the deck?

Yes, thanks Oleg, now I noticed, otherwise I considered the engine more

[Alex 241]

Hello Igor "gassed" on the hangar deck.

[igor67]

[quote = alex 241] Hello Igor "gassed" on the hangar deck. Hi Sanya! It turns out they have there and routine maintenance is done on the spot

[Alex 241]

Well, given the duration of the voyage, there's nowhere to go.

[igor67]

[quote = alex 241] Well, given the duration of the voyage, this is nowhere to go. How many staff there are there? The carrier itself plus the air group,

[Alex 241]

Depending on the class of an aircraft carrier, it comes to 5 thousand people. Here, as they say, it is better to see once. Look at your leisure.

[igor67]

I look at the engine almost like ours, I heard that they have a thermocouple in their shoulder blades,

[Alex 241]

Igor, they worked with heat resistance, so the thermocouple is standing at the nozzle.

[igor67]

Quote: Alex 241

Igor, they worked with heat resistance, so the thermocouple is standing at the nozzle.

I remember when assembling the box of motor units (KMA) on the NK 12, the gears had to be rolled for a long time, but they didn’t fit in one series, it’s hard to maintain the engines in flight condition, if it seems to be for cannibalism, and nifig, especially since they don’t let out already about Tu95, I remember there was a photo report of a lot of cars standing and almost everything is in non-flying condition. Interestingly there are no such problems

[Alex 241]

Oh Igor, on American engines, I think the mystery behind seven seals.

[igor67]

Quote: Alex 241

Oh Igor, on American engines, I think the mystery behind seven seals.

That is, the Chinese, not that Amer and ours can’t be torn off, except perhaps some .....

[Alex 241]

The Chinese have a problem with the blades, there is no technology, hence the small motor resource. If they solve this problem, then everyone will smoke nervously.

[igor67]

Quote: Alex 241

The Chinese have a problem with the blades, there is no technology, hence the small motor resource. If they solve this problem, then everyone will smoke nervously.

Something I do not trust the Chinese, there are no three polar worlds, someone will have to make room, with their ambitions,

[Alex 241]

China is a real force to be reckoned with.

[igor67]

Quote: Alex 241

China is a real force to be reckoned with.

I think if they start, they will most likely try it in Vietnam, they will remember for 79, and they’re unlikely to immediately go to nuclear India or Russia, Taiwan is still on the list, in short for its region,

[Alex 241]

Igor, if they break, then in two weeks they will be near Chelyabinsk, we simply have nothing to stop them. And to shoot nuclear weapons on our territory ........... this is us, and they understand.

[bask]

Quote: Alex 241

bullet on its territory with nuclear charges ...

Sledge them with darkness. And they can only be stopped by a total nuclear strike on their territory.
But they will not trample, the Americans will not give. And they understand the same thing. And to fight against syr ......

[Alex 241]

Andrei, USA China is also like a bone in the throat.

[Alex 241]

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[studentmati]

It’s sad, but it’s a fact.
I recall the books of Nikolai Zadornov, the father of the now famous satirist Mikhail on the development of the Amur. The reading is exciting, exclusively in the book version. If I haven’t read it, Sasha, I advise you that it’s beautiful, elegant and in Russian !!! The same beach is mentioned, mentioned in the plot!

[Dejavu]

So what? - I myself am from Blagoveshchensk and listening to these wonderful aunts, I understand that they are WRONG. In Blagoveshchensk, the Chinese are 0.5%, mainly tourist groups in the area of ​​the city center. Where they saw a solid Chinese contingent here is not clear. I see Chinese only in shopping centers and next to the museum. The Chinese, who live on our side on an ongoing basis, cried. Such alarmists are exorbitant.

Quotas for workers from China are reduced to a minimum. Hiring Chinese legally here is unrealistic! Illegals are caught only the noise is worth it, I know this firsthand.

As for the construction on the waterfront. A lot of money was allocated from the federal budget for the project to strengthen the city's embankment, which was also defended by the former mayor. The expediency of this construction has been shown by the current flood. If it weren’t for this embankment, the floor of the city would already be floating.

Regarding - who is building it, "probably the Chinese, Chinese technology, after all." The logic is iron, of course, but wrong. Builds by the word Armenian, which is sadder for me. There will be an elite residential complex on the embankment, plus little things. Word of mouth. Women in one word, what to take from them.

[Know-nothing]

It seems they are being tested at the stern.

[alone]

A full-scale QF-16 air target from the 82nd air target squadron flies over the Gulf of Mexico during its first unmanned flight at Tyndall, Florida, on September 19, 2013. The 82nd uses extremely full-scale aerial targets. According to the operators, the QF-16 will provide an idea of ​​the real threats of fourth-generation fighters for the purpose of testing and training.

they already turn their combat fighters into drones. They work famously however. There’s nothing to complain about!

[Rider]

Quote: lonely

they already turn their combat fighters into drones

Well this is not surprising, unmanned aircraft controlled by radio from the ground have been known since the 80s of the last century.
(some claim that such aircraft rammed the WTC towers)
Naturally, their effectiveness is many times worse than that of manned aircraft.
therefore, their niche is bombing attacks against an enemy that does NOT have air defense means, or such targets.

[Professor]

Quote: Rider

Well this is not surprising, unmanned aircraft controlled by radio from the ground have been known since the 80s of the last century.

This is more about a robot, not a remotely controlled model. Where do you see a stable platform with optics in the photo?

Quote: Rider

(some claim that such aircraft rammed the WTC towers)

And some that were abducted by aliens.

Quote: Rider

Naturally, their effectiveness is many times worse than that of manned aircraft.

Not natural and not lower. Such a kamikaze bomber at a criminally low altitude is capable of delivering 10 tons of precision munitions per thousand kilometers. Moreover, the decision-makers hand does not flinch.

Quote: Rider

therefore, their niche is bombing attacks against an enemy that does NOT have air defense means, or such targets.

Air defense means, no matter how super-duper they were, have not saved anyone yet. A dozen of these drones will break through any air defense, even at the cost of their "life". Arm them with Spice-250 bombs and hello air defense.

[PLO]

Air defense means, no matter how super-duper they were, have not saved anyone yet. A dozen of these drones will break through any air defense, even at the cost of their "life". Arm them with Spice-250 bombs and hello air defense.

fairy tales.
as usual, reality is much more prosaic.

The spice-250 is a planning air bomb, from which both advantages and disadvantages emerge.
low subsonic speed, and most importantly, to send them to a maximum distance, the carrier must have a maximum height, and 100km for air defense systems is now a small distance, i.e. it's almost guaranteed destruction of media

and even the USA I’m afraid I won’t be able to spend drones (not to mention manned fighters) in dozens in one attack
afford not to mention the rest of the country

[Know-nothing]

Quote: olp

100km for air defense systems now a small distance

This is if the target is type B-52. And for a stealth drone, but with the use of electronic warfare, the range will drop significantly.

Plus there is such a thing as MALD

[PLO]

This is if the target is type B-52. And for a stealth drone, but with the use of electronic warfare, the range will drop significantly.

if the target is a type B-52, then the S-300/400 will see it at 500-600km
range 48N6DM 250km

nowhere to fall
100km, I indicated the distance where the carriers are guaranteed to be above the horizontal horizon and they can’t get anywhere from supersonic missiles even if they manage to drop all the bombs

[Professor]

Quote: olp

100km, I indicated the distance where the carriers are guaranteed to be above the horizontal horizon and they can’t get anywhere from supersonic missiles even if they manage to drop all the bombs

This is if the carriers will go at maximum heights, but if they are criminally small, then the air defense has very few chances.

[PLO]

This is if the carriers will go at maximum heights, but if they are criminally small, then the air defense has very few chances.

exactly
the problem is that from criminally low altitudes planning ABs for 100km do not send

[Professor]

Quote: olp

exactly
the problem is that from criminally low altitudes planning ABs for 100km do not send

It is not a matter of planning bombs (for them you can make a slide), it is important that they have cheap mass carriers. This is a historic moment. Remember it.

[Rider]

Quote: professor

It’s important that they got cheap mass media.

Well, what are they cheap for?
the plane is the same.


and don’t tell me that he’s soaring in his cockpit?

[PLO]

It's not about planning bombs (you can make a slide for them),

slide in 15km .. with 4 tons on the suspension .. yeah, for the f-16 all the time to spit.

It’s important that they got cheap mass media. This is a historic moment. Remember it.

QF-16 is very far from cheap and mass carrier
even the US will not be able to maintain two air armies
one with a kind of "cheap and universal" F-35 so as not to lose in combat effectiveness and the second with a kind of "cheap" QF-16, which requires no less constant maintenance

[Professor]

Quote: olp

QF-16 is very far from cheap and mass carrier

One step. They used 6000 tomahawks, but here we are talking about a decommissioned free airplane with an upgrade whale.

[PLO]

One step. They used 6000 tomahawks, but here we are talking about a decommissioned free airplane with an upgrade whale.

this is if you take an old plane with a resource near the end for use in exercises where its fate will be obvious

it’s another thing to use it for such purposes when the aircraft must be constantly maintained in a state of airworthiness and the oprethors of these aircraft must constantly train

in this case, the cost of its operation will not differ much

They used 6000 tomahawks

I perfectly remember the information that even for the USA, these 6000 tomahawks were expensive

[Professor]

Let's look at both options:
1. Spiasny with a spent resource and one-way fuel supply plus "for unforeseen expenses". A penny cost, sorry cents. I think it's not worth continuing ...
2. Reusable of debited or debited. Technical base, spare parts, service experience more than enough. The cost of an hour of flight is one of the cheapest in the US Air Force and in the world. It is not comparable with the F-22, B-52, etc. And most importantly, there is no dear pilot and no pension for his widow and orphans. And these are millions of dollars.

Quote: olp

I perfectly remember the information that even for the USA, these 6000 tomahawks were expensive

The cost of one such CD is from $ 500000 to 1.5 lemons. The weight of the warhead is simply mixed in comparison with the combat load of the F-16. So consider it.

[Rider]

Quote: professor

Let's look at both options:

let’s go.

1 - one-time, i.e. - a bomb. but you know, even ordinary bombs and missiles have an expiration date, and an entire aircraft will have it DIFFERENT.
So it turns out that having received such a device, it must be used as quickly as possible, otherwise the costs of maintenance and conservation will increase.

option 2, practically means that the aircraft is in storage with the production of all maintenance and other services, even if you take into account that the cost of all this is as you said, it's still NOT a penny (and not even a cent)

but regarding the combat load of a DISPOSABLE aircraft projectile, this is absolutely true.

it remains only to prove its effectiveness in overcoming air defense systems.

[Professor]

Quote: Rider

So it turns out that having received such a device, it must be used as quickly as possible, otherwise the costs of maintenance and conservation will increase.

No. This is not a horse, there is no need to feed every day. Maintenance of such a penny.

Quote: Rider

it's still NOT a penny (and not even a cent)

And this is a penny. F-16 is known as a cheap aircraft to maintain (MiG-29, for example, as expensive). But still, the plane has already been produced and is waiting for its second birth.

Quote: Rider

it remains only to prove its effectiveness in overcoming air defense systems.

It remains only to create these systems. Neither Iran nor Syria has them, and America is not going to attack Russia yet.

[Rider]

Quote: professor

No. This is not a horse, there is no need to feed every day. Maintenance of such a penny.

what about tsiferok?

Quote: professor

But still, the plane has already been produced and is waiting for its second birth.

what is produced is a fact, as is the fact that investments will be required to modernize and extend resources.
it is quite possible that they will be less than the construction of special UAVs, or the production of axes, but not a "penny" for sure.
and the US is in crisis.
that's why I don't think we'll see "continuation of the banquet"

Quote: professor

Neither Iran nor Syria has them, and America is not going to attack Russia yet.

but remember my words aboutwhich brings us back to the term "disposable aircraft / projectile, for countries that DO NOT have serious air defense systems"


Well, you mentioned the funds spent on the payment of "funeral" money to the US military, I hasten to reassure you - they were canceled.
recently slipped infa that the Pentagon temporarily suspended payments of these amounts due to lack of money.

oh something is amiss in the Danish kingdom.
I feel like not seeing us / him / you given a child prodigy.
for worse, fortunately, how to know.

[Professor]

Quote: Rider

what about tsiferok?

Not at hand. (In one of my articles he indicated).

Quote: Rider

but not a "penny" for sure.
and the US is in crisis.

Wrote about the maintenance levels? Crisis is the problem of the rich. We would have their crisis.

Quote: Rider

Well, you mentioned the funds spent on the payment of "funeral" money to the US military, I hasten to reassure you - they were canceled.
infa recently slipped that the Pentagon temporarily suspended payments of these amounts, due to lack of money.

This is due to paralysis of power. In the coming days, they will destroy it and pay everything to everyone. Money allocated ...

Quote: Rider

I feel like not seeing us / him / you given a child prodigy.

hope

[Rider]

Quote: professor

Not at hand. (In one of my articles he indicated).

Wrote about the maintenance levels?

it would be nice to bring.

Quote: professor

This is due to paralysis of power. In the coming days, they will destroy it and pay everything to everyone. Money allocated ...

I really hope so.
however, this tramp has been lasting for more than a week.
and if we take into account the turn of cities preparing for default, then attempts to expose their situation as"The crisis is the problem of the rich." look unconvincing.

Quote: professor

hope

like you to the opposite.
boom oversee whose hopes are more reliable.

[Professor]

Quote: Rider

it would be nice to bring

Ask the trolls from my blacklist that I don’t see here, but as I see from your comments they continue to spoil the air. They are specialists in equipment.

Quote: Rider

however, this tramp has been lasting for more than a week.
and if we take into account the queue of cities preparing for default, then attempts to present their situation as "The crisis is the problem of the rich." look unconvincing.

It cannot last indefinitely. Another 2 weeks and give birth. With all their "crisis", how much real money is allocated for the army? And in the former USSR? so where is the crisis?

[Rider]

Quote: professor

Ask the trolls from my blacklist

I’m not talking to them now, why are you nervous?

Quote: professor

Infinitely, it cannot last. Another 2 weeks and will be born.

here we are, and then we can talk about new cuts in the pentagon budget.

[Professor]

Quote: Rider

I’m not talking to them now, why are you nervous?

Why am I nervous? I’m paid for the presence here.

Quote: Rider

come on you prof, well then I can (in my ear) I won’t tell anyone.

Quote: Rider

Quote: Rider
I quite believe.

So we talked. I have the honor

[Rider]

Quote: professor

Why am I nervous? I’m paid for the presence here. wink

Quote: Rider
come on you prof, well then I can (in my ear) I won’t tell anyone

I already understood prof, it’s not necessary to admit a second time

Quote: professor

I have the honor

it’s good when you have a person, worse when vice versa.


do not be offended by prof, today I am in high spirits, and humor prolongs life.
(as Baron Munchausen said, he prolongs WHO is laughing, but he is ABOVE WHO laugh, he shortens it)

[rolik]

Quote: professor

. They used 6000 tomahawks

And where such a quantity was applied at a time ???? if not military secret of course)))

[rolik]

I will continue the tirade))))
As the distinguished Professor says, 6000 Tomahawks have been applied. this is a small inaccuracy. THERE WAS ALL PRODUCED 6000 UNITS FOR THE YEARS OF THEIR RELEASE)))) And they began to be produced, in my opinion in 1983.
And now let's estimate the cost of launching one Tomahawk equal to mid-2011 1.5 million dollars, with the cost of launching an anti-aircraft missile ..... well, for example, the same Shell ???? although, it can be compared with Buk M2U, and with Torus M2
So, I think that mattresses will have faster tomahawks than we have anti-aircraft missiles))))

[Professor]

Quote: rolik

As the respected Professor says, 6000 Tomahawks have been applied. this is a small inaccuracy. THERE WAS ALL PRODUCED 6000 UNITS FOR THE YEARS OF THEIR RELEASE)))) And they began to be produced, in my opinion in 1983.

Amendment adopted. 2500 of the 6000 missiles launched were launched.

Quote: rolik

And now let's estimate the cost of launching one Tomahawk equal to mid-2011 1.5 million dollars, with the cost of launching an anti-aircraft missile ..... well, for example, the same Shell ???? although, it can be compared with Buk M2U, and with Torus M2

When you count, do not forget to multiply by the probability of the downing of the Kyrgyz Republic and the experience of the combat use of the Shell.

[rolik]

Quote: professor

the likelihood of downing the Kyrgyz Republic and the experience of the combat use of the Shell

And I don’t especially cling to the Shell)))) To be honest, I like Buk and Tor better. TOR M2 efficiency with 9M338 missile launchers with GOS is about 0,9–0,95, without GOS 0.7-0,75))) The Buk-M2 air defense system with multi-channel RPN provides 8–12 shelling over the passage of the zone, and with two RPN (anti-aircraft missile battery) 16-20 cruise missiles (CR). At the same time, the probability of defeating the missile system of one SAM in the Buk-M2 system is higher, and the average missile consumption per one shot down target is less than that of the S-300P (S-400) air defense system. In addition, the 9M317 SAM is almost half the price of the main missile of these air defense systems. The likelihood of a tactical aircraft and helicopter crash is 0,9–0,95;
- tactical ballistic missiles - 0,6–0,7;
- cruise missiles - 0,7–0,8;
- hovering helicopters - 0,3-0,4.
By the way, a well-known fact. The “grandfather” of Buk-M2 air defense systems — the Kvadrat air defense system — which included a 3M9 missile with a semi-active CSG similar to that used in Buk-M2 air defense systems, but in a significantly simplified version, was also widely used in hostilities in foreign countries. During the October 1973 Arab-Israeli war, the Kvadrat air defense system (export name of the Kub air defense system) destroyed 68% of Israeli aircraft (mainly Phantom and Mirage aircraft) with an average missile consumption of 1,2–1,6 , XNUMX for one downed target

[Professor]

To your numbers. The probability of hitting cruise missiles is 0,7–0,8 at the range without active opposition. Let's leave it that way. In total, for a "guaranteed" interception of what the F-16 drone carries, you need at least 16x2 missiles or 8! self-propelled PU. And this is subject to the absence of electronic warfare. Five (five) drones and you already need 40 (forty) Buk-M2. We will keep silent about the experience of combat use against small-sized targets such as gliding bombs and missiles due to its absence. By the above simple calculations, we come to the conclusion that the drone based on the F-16 poses a serious potential threat.

It is simply not correct to compare the combat effectiveness of the 70s air defense systems against fighter bombers and Bukovs against the Kyrgyz Republic.

[Professor]

Quote: olp

The spice-250 is a planning air bomb, from which both advantages and disadvantages emerge.
low subsonic speed, and most importantly, to send them to a maximum distance, the carrier must have a maximum height, and 100km for air defense systems is now a small distance, i.e. it's almost guaranteed destruction of media

That's right, only after they are dropped and false targets and baits are dropped, expensive surface-to-air missiles that are not infinite will be spent on intercepting them. One F-16 carries 16 such bombs. Let there be only 10 of them, plus missiles against the radar, plus a couple of false targets, stupidly score any amount of air defense. Regarding price: it is not that expensive to take into account the number of old aircraft stored in the USA.

Quote: olp

and even the USA I’m afraid I won’t be able to spend drones (not to mention manned fighters) in dozens in one attack
afford not to mention the rest of the country

America will spend kamikaze drones on the left and on the right without thinking.

[PLO]

That's right, only after they are dropped and false targets and baits are dropped, expensive surface-to-air missiles that are not infinite will be spent on intercepting them.

nobody will spend expensive endless missiles of long-range air defense systems on intercepting the bombs themselves, it’s expensive, stupid and inefficient

the carriers themselves will go astray
and undoubtedly it is even possible that some ABs will reach the goal only if they can complete the task?
What is the point of launching these Spice-250 bombs from a distance of 100km?

1) destroy the air defense systems themselves?
not work
air defense systems can go to other positions, they can also be masked
in this case, the defeat of the air defense system will be an accident and not a regularity
at the same time, many expensive carriers will be guaranteed to be destroyed in the raid

2) carpet bombing with similar bombs is an oxymoron

[Professor]

Quote: olp

nobody will spend expensive endless missiles of long-range air defense systems on intercepting the bombs themselves, it’s expensive, stupid and inefficient

You will not intercept them; they will destroy you.

Quote: olp

air defense systems can go to other positions, they can also be masked

They won’t leave, they just won’t have time. Regarding the disguise, review the video again. And even if they disguise themselves and even hide in bunkers, bombs will destroy strategic objects.

Quote: olp

at the same time, many expensive carriers will be guaranteed to be destroyed in the raid

These carriers are cheap and one-off. One S-300 rocket costs more than a million dollars. On such a carrier, they need 10-16.

Quote: olp

carpet bombing with similar bombs is an oxymoron

I didn’t observe carpet bombing after the Russian in Georgia, and even before that I had little involvement. Smart bombs rule.

[PLO]

You will not intercept them; they will destroy you.

me who is this?
An airborne radar operator that may generally be out of range?

the driver of the SPU SAM with missiles with a range of 250 km or with the future 400 km (against drones and it will come down)?

But will he be able to single out correctly masked equipment among the targets?




or not?

They won’t leave, they just won’t have time. Regarding the disguise, review the video again. And even if they disguise themselves and even hide in bunkers, bombs will destroy strategic objects.

in case strategic objects of a strong country are destroyed, besides the air defense system, there will be many interesting things

if we are talking about something like Syria / Iran, then the essence of these air defense systems is not to guarantee the destruction of all US air forces, but to make losses unacceptable to them

and the destruction of strategic targets by 250kg bombs from a distance of 100km looks funny

These carriers are cheap and one-off. One S-300 rocket costs more than a million dollars. On such a carrier, they need 10-16.

again: the QF-16 is far from cheap and not one-time, the plane remained the same.

about 10-16 missiles for one QF-16 is a good joke.
as a rule, 2 missiles are launched during exercises, circumstances may be different, but 10-16 there aren’t close

[Professor]

Quote: olp

me who is this?

You are a guarded facility.

Quote: olp

But will he be able to single out correctly masked equipment among the targets?

And you show it in the thermal spectrum and immediately select it. And unmistakably. At the same time, show an inflatable airfield and an inflatable bridge with an inflatable nuclear power plant.

Quote: olp

and make losses unacceptable to them

100% to the point. Losing 30 pilots is not acceptable, and 30 unmanned F-16s are acceptable.

Quote: olp

and the destruction of strategic targets by 250kg bombs from a distance of 100km looks funny

Have you seen what funnel in the city makes a bomb of this caliber? I have seen. The bridge blows in an instant.

Quote: olp

again: the QF-16 is far from cheap and not one-time, the plane remained the same.

This plane is free as decommissioned. The conversion kit is cheap. There, all the salt in the software, but it is getting cheaper from plane to plane.

Quote: olp

about 10-16 missiles for one QF-16 is a good joke.

One F-16 carries 16 gliding bombs. If you are not going to intercept them then there is no conversation, and if all the same you do not need them, then to intercept them you need more than 16 SAMs.

[Rider]

Quote: professor

This is more about a robot than a remotely controlled model.

which means the level of reaction to a changed situation is even lower than that of an UAV under the control of an operator.

Quote: professor

And some that were abducted by aliens.

I didn’t think you believe in the official version 9/11, but ...

Quote: professor

Such a kamikaze bomber at a criminally low altitude is capable of delivering 10 tons of high-precision ammunition

quite possibly, I somehow did not take this "option" into account.
but this practically means that he will not return back, however, for the purpose of breaking through air defense, he is suitable.

Quote: professor

Air defense systems no matter what super-duper they were, they still have not saved anyone.

but this is very, very controversial.
bomb countries like Afghanistan and Lebanon, it’s not the same as trying to bomb countries with air defense

[Professor]

Quote: Rider

which means the level of reaction to a changed situation is even lower than that of an UAV under the control of an operator.

The task of the carrier is to deliver smart bombs to the target. These bombs are able to respond to changing conditions. Or do you think that, for example, Iranian nuclear facilities will quickly change their location?

Quote: Rider

I didn’t think you believe in the official version 9/11, but ...

I don’t believe in conspiracy theory

Quote: Rider

but this practically means that he will not return back, however, for the purpose of breaking through air defense, he is suitable.

will not come back and do not. They have such a shaft.

Quote: Rider

but this is very, very controversial.

This is undeniable. Air defense is DEFENSE and it is not capable of defeating by definition.

[Rider]

Quote: professor

Or do you think that, for example, Iranian nuclear facilities will quickly change their location?

which brings us back to the term - "plane-bomb / projectile" that is, disposable.

Quote: professor

will not come back and do not. They have such a shaft.

It would be nice to know what condition they are in.
I won’t say anything for aircraft, but as a machine operator, I responsibly declare that not everything that has been removed from storage is suitable for work. I think that in aviation the conditions are even harsher.

again, funds are needed to convert aircraft into drones, but the Pentagon doesn’t have them, however, sequestration.

but in one you are right, certainly this is another step towards the creation of military equipment that can be used with minimal human involvement.

Quote: professor

Air defense is DEFENSE and it is not capable of defeating by definition.

however, it can discourage ATTACK.
as you remember, too many make a fuss over the supply of C 300 to Iran and Syria.
if they are NOT a problem for the aviation of our "partners" then why kipish?

[Professor]

Quote: Rider

which brings us back to the term - "plane-bomb / projectile" that is, disposable.

For a breakthrough, the super-duper of an as yet non-existing air defense is one-time. And so reusable.

Quote: Rider

It would be nice to know what condition they are in.

Most modern type F-16 in flight condition. Americans periodically extract and sell them to third world countries.

Quote: Rider

again, funds are needed to convert aircraft into drones, but the Pentagon doesn’t have them, however, sequestration.

Oh yeah. We, you and Russia would have their problems with financing the Pentagon.

Quote: Rider

however, it can discourage ATTACK.
as you remember, too many make a fuss over the supply of C 300 to Iran and Syria.
if they are NOT a problem for the aviation of our "partners" then why kipish?

Not capable. The question of price always arises. That's why there was a boil. No one wants to see their pilots in a loop on a square in Tehran. However, the described aircraft solve this problem. How many S-300 divisions are needed to guarantee the protection of the Bushehr nuclear power plant when attacking with only 10 such drones? Count and cry?

[Rider]

Quote: professor

For a breakthrough, the super-duper of an as yet non-existing air defense is one-time. And so reusable.

Well, about the "nonexistent" is you got excited.
how many radars have recently been put into operation, and the new C 300/400 divisions are on duty.
well, about "reusability" and how many times can it be used decommissioned aircraft.
after all, according to this criterion, you derived the formula "deshovy"

Quote: professor

Americans periodically extract and sell them to third world countries.

quite a while ago nothing has been heard about this, when and to whom did they last get it?
in addition, a small batch (to the extreme number of 50 pieces) is not the entire fleet of machines to be decommissioned (if I am not mistaken, more than 1500 f-15/16/18 until the end of the year 20)
well, about "we would have their problems"
nafih nafih, sequestration of the budget and cuts in defense programs, I do not wish even you.
in the spring of 17 squadrons they put in a joke, I do not think that since then the situation has changed for the better.

Quote: professor

That's why there was a boil. No one wants to see their pilots in a loop on a square in Tehran.

what is it about, this is just the case when the presence of air defense - matters.
but about the destruction of STATIC objects, here you are right. Nuclear power plants and (say) the Kremlin will not be able to escape anywhere.
but the question always arises of a retaliatory strike.
which brings us back to the term "disposable aircraft / projectile, for countries that DO NOT have serious air defense systems"

By the way, prof, in your video with the drone kuf 16, and what is there soaring in the cockpit?

[Professor]

Quote: Rider

how many radars have recently been put into operation, and the new C 300/400 divisions are on duty.

Let's not count how many divisions and how many missiles in each, we’ll have to sob.
The plane was decommissioned, but when necessary they fly after sale to other countries for years.

You look at their technical condition in storage and look at the military budget after the cut. It's called the rich cry too.

Quote: Rider

but there is always the question of retaliation

A retaliatory strike is possible only by nuclear forces, and not everyone has them.

Quote: Rider

By the way, prof, in your video with the drone kuf 16, and what is there soaring in the cockpit?

cab cooling

[Rider]

Quote: professor

Let's not count how many divisions and how many missiles in each, we’ll have to sob.

why count?
The fact is that they build and introduce.
Well, of course, not the GLOBAL air defense system as in the case of the Union, but also not fiction like 10 years ago.

Quote: professor

You look at their technical condition in storage and look at the military budget after the cut. It's called the rich cry too.

I will tell you so, after removal from conservation ANY technique requires THAT.
after it begins the period of operation, in which it turns out that many mechanisms require repair, or even replacement.
I do not think that in aviation the situation is different.
if for a "disposable" aircraft, minor defects and malfunctions are not critical, then for further "reusable" use, one has to do almost overhaul.
this is exactly what the U.S. Air Force is doing when selling (giving) old planes to someone.
therefore, to say that after decommissioning or storage the aircraft does not require expenses (or requires - a minuscule) is a misconception.

Quote: professor

cab cooling

thanks.

probably this is due to electronics, which requires a "room" temperature.

I'll know.

[Professor]

Quote: Rider

why count?
The fact is that they build and introduce.

It's like a dead poultice. Their number is not able to reflect the massive and not very massive air strike.

Quote: Rider

"reusable" use, you almost have to do overhaul.

For the F-16, there are 4 levels of maintenance in the troops. To enter the built-in canned devices, only the 1st and sometimes 2nd level is enough.

Quote: Rider

therefore, to say that after decommissioning or storage the aircraft does not require expenses (or requires - a minuscule) is a misconception.

The 1st and 2nd level of service is carried out by technicians directly in the field (in Israel, conscripts in general). It’s worth a penny.

Quote: Rider

probably this is due to electronics, which requires a "room" temperature.

This is due to the difference in temperature overboard and inside. Hint flying in Florida ...

[Rider]

Quote: professor

It's like a dead poultice. Their number is not able to reflect the massive and not very massive air strike.

you are a strange person, prof. you are confident that the OPERATING AIR DEFENSE of Russia is full of holes, and absolutely do not call into question the prodigy that is intended as a TARGET.
and nobody even declared its impact properties.

do not you think that this is a discord?

Quote: professor

For the F-16, there are 4 levels of maintenance in the troops. To enter the built-in canned devices, only the 1st and sometimes 2nd level is enough.

Well, give the figures for the cost of these events.

moreover, they depend on the operational life and tasks for each aircraft.

Quote: professor

It’s worth a penny.

I would like in numbers.

[Professor]

Quote: Rider

you are a strange person, prof. you are confident that the OPERATING AIR DEFENSE of Russia is full of holes, and absolutely do not call into question the prodigy that is intended as a TARGET.

I am not talking about this target, but about a massive bourgeois blow by the conventional means available to them.

Quote: Rider

Well, give the figures for the cost of these events.

I'm a liar and I'm sitting here for money. So ask the local "experts" and "patriots".

Quote: Rider

I would like in numbers

They have numbers, they all know.

[Rider]

Quote: professor

I am not talking about this target, but about a massive bourgeois blow by the conventional means available to them.

to this MASSED blow, there is a new doctrine of the use of the armed forces of Russia.

and it is not necessary to say that "you see, except for nuclear weapons, there is nothing to answer"
I don’t think that there is such an air defense that is GUARANTEED (at least with a 80% probability) to reflect the MASSED first strike,
I think even your dome will not cope.

Quote: professor

I'm a liar and I'm sitting here for money

well that's nice why hide

Quote: professor

They have numbers, they all know.

but there are no digits
pichalka.

[Suvorov000]

6 photos show well the camouflage capabilities of the Americans' uniforms, here you can still get this only for your own money and even then you can't wear it everywhere, the fathers of the commanders begin to suffer from insanity: "everything should be uniformly ugly", sorry for the bird, and the photos are not bad )))

[avg]

In general, the form is issued in relation to the theater. Agree that a soldier of the Central District in desert camouflage, or a company dressed like that, will be very stupid.

[Suvorov000]

that is why the guys in the Asian region look very stupid, running in the usual form, bleaching their bleach themselves with bleach. And the form with respect to the theater of war is not issued, and what you have is what you wear, that is, what you got or what you buy for your money

[cth; fyn]

M1A1? Hmm, not bad that they are all bad

[Know-nothing]

These are marines.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

The professor lights up again !!! photo class of course .. Just this is just a photo .. We look at it, we don’t relax men and do not succumb to provocations ..

[phantom359]

Good camouflage DPM. Against the background of mountains, the silhouette blurs well.

[Bradley]

Great photos, nothing to say. Actually, like all articles of the author.

olp, you forget about the radio horizon. So you can get close to the air defense for several tens of kilometers and drop the "gifts" that also fly low. Am I right, Professor?

[Professor]

Could be so. Another point is important here. If the KR carries a bunk of hundreds of kg of TNT, then this drone is almost a dozen tons. So estimate what damage it can cause.

[svp67]

Russian tank T80. Dust

[svp67]

Russian tank T80. On the edge of the earth ...

[svp67]

Russian tank T80. Dust and dirt ...

[svp67]

Russian tank T80. Dust and Beauty ...

[svp67]

Russian tank T80. Meets the dawn ....

[Rider]

Quote: svp67

Russian tank T80. Meets the dawn ....

one of the best tank photos I've seen.
definitely you +

why don't you create an article like this?

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Here is a joke (I laid it out yesterday) I think again in the topic .. Old Soviet (we retold it to each other in childhood ..)

Reagan fly with Brezhnev in an airplane for talks in Moscow.
Reagan: So I look at the porthole in your USSR alone combines in the fields! And we have aircraft carriers rocket tanks base around .. Why can you scare us?
Here the bunker of the combine opens and the rocket knocks the plane ..))))
Reagan fly with Brezhnev parachuting Reagan in shock ..
Leonid Ilyich, how did you think of this .. harvesters (combat) !!!
Brezhnev: Maybe you should also show the K-700 vertical take-off tractor!

The joke is naive and yet here the essence of Russia is shown .. We are peaceful, but if anything, the harvesters will start to shoot.! We have a lot of kulibins and developments, too (in the 90s, not everyone managed to steal and sell ..)))) These are the things.

[phantom359]

Trochs are not those things. It is advisable to reinforce something substantial other than combines.

[avg]

Eh, it would be nice to have such stubborn, and most importantly knowledgeable "professors", but in defense ministers to an adversary.
It would be possible to act exactly according to Trotsky "No war, no peace. Disband the army" (Well, maybe at least reduce the air defense with the Air Force)

[lexe]

Photo No. 8. Rise of freedom
Now it’s clear on what our former emigrants will fly to us. When they will begin their camel movement
Take off!

[lexe]

Apparently someone is against the return of the Russians to their historical homeland? Are there any disadvantages?
It’s clear that if we have the same chaos, then it makes no sense ...

[Rider]

Quote: Lexi

Apparently someone is against the return of the Russians to their historical homeland? Are there any disadvantages?

and think, why do we roll the field?
first left "this country", but how did you smell of fried - Homeland, accept lost sons?

Russia will certainly accept them, only the sediment will remain.

[lexe]

I remember everyone who was captured by the Germans, including due to various injuries, criminal negligence of the leadership, etc. etc. the court was waiting. In the Russian Empire, the practice was somewhat different. And what is surprising in the Republic of Ingushetia was not a mass of prisoners.
Let me just remind you that the collapse of the USSR was an explosion and this explosion "concussed" very many.
But what about the children of these people who read this site as well? But there were many waves of emigration.
And about the fields ... they will be taken so soon.
And for me, they’ll return on airplanes created including for the 1st strike on Russia ... very symbolically.
I would like to receive satisfaction for the "defeat" in the Cold War, and this picture would suit me.
It’s clear that without comfort ...
I remembered a film with Bodrov that. I don’t put it. I understand that there is a lot of anger from our low salary (including mine)

[Rider]

Quote: Lexi

I remember everyone who was captured by the Germans, including due to various injuries, criminal negligence of the leadership, etc. etc. waiting for trial

not a court, but a hate speech.
and arrested about 4% - traitors, Vlasovites, etc.

or are you indignant at the fact that investigative measures were applied to a soldier who was captured?

Quote: Lexi

And what is surprising in the Republic of Ingushetia was not a mass of prisoners.

Who told you that?
google WW1, and the fact that "earlier and not in such quantities" and wars were smaller before.

Quote: Lexi

I don’t put it to you I understand that there is a lot of anger from our low salary (including mine)

What are you talking about?
did you spit some fields there, some concussions and satisfaction, or is it all not for me?

more specifically pliiiz, without allegories.

[lexe]

or are you indignant at the fact that investigative measures were applied to a soldier who was captured?

I am outraged by the other - that we have many who defend the past leadership of the country thanks to which we presented our people with the enemy. Thus, we put all the blame on a specific person and removed responsibility from statesmen.
Are you one of these responsibility shifters?

Who told you that?
google WW1, and the fact that "earlier and not in such quantities" and wars were smaller before.

Google-to-the-corner! Although a useful search engine I do not argue.
And the fact that before our king promoted the humane treatment of prisoners was not at all because of his kindness of soul, but because of the harsh fact that in the future war at the 1st stage there wouldn’t be enough rounds of ammunition ... it didn’t occur to you such a thought? I'm sure in Google you will not find confirmation of my words.

What are you talking about?
did you spit some fields there, some concussions and satisfaction, or is it all not for me?

Of course not for you.
Put your URA minus and go further. Well, I will give you my URA minus.

[Rider]

Quote: Lexi

I am outraged by another - that we have many who defend the past leadership of the country thanks to which we gave our people the enemy

and who said that responsibility is removed? where did you read / hear / see it?
everyone should be responsible for their actions.
including captured soldiers, but I repeat that most of them (approximately 90-95%) did not suffer any punishment for captivity, but were either returned to the army, or sent for treatment and work in factories and in agriculture .
and only those who (a small part) stained themselves with betrayal were punished.
and you see from those for whom Stalin is to blame.

Quote: Lexi

Google-to-the-corner!

I certainly do not understand that the current "opponent of the redhead" does not want to study, but personally you could type in Google "Russia, losses, world war 1"
and that you will find out that between 1,5 and 2,5 million people were captured (according to various estimates).
so your statement surprisingly, there were no masses of prisoners in RI.
this is from the category, "the main thing is to blurt out, and then let others check"
and the fact that you decided something for the tsar there is completely nonsense, since entering the war no one expected so many prisoners, and the situation with cartridge / shell hunger.

Quote: Lexi

Put your URA minus and go further. Well, I will give you my URA minus

nah yeah ...
the share of the "bearer of the truth of TM" is hard
one wants to be oppressed for an idea.

and they will teach you minuses without me.

[lexe]

Dear, you are slipping on a person.
I already am silent that people like you have decided a lot and saw in the genius of such a leader as Stalin.
Still in the demographic pit

since no one envisioned so many prisoners entering the war, and the situation with cartridge / shell hunger.

Are you really so naive?
Well, I'm waiting for a raise amateur Starikov.
And they will throw minuses to you too because of your unwillingness for the scattered Russian people to unite.
Without respect.

[Rider]

reading your opus involuntarily surprised at your illogicality.
in the beginning you called me respected, and in the end, you refused respect.

and about the demographic hole, are you sure that Stalin is personally to blame and not the Germans, hunger and disease?
after all, under the kings, famine happened regularly, but no accusations of "genocide" are heard.

Quote: Lexi

Are you really so naive?
Well, I'm waiting for a raise

naive in what?
can you give the layout for the "expected number of prisoners"?

and what increase are you waiting for?
be more specific, less allegories.

Quote: Lexi

And they will throw minuses to you too because of your unwillingness for the scattered Russian people to unite.

a request not to ascribe to me your fabrications, I am with three hands for the integration of Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, and so on, whoever wants to join, but regarding the "sausage emigrants" I expressed my opinion.

and your "respect" to me to the bulb, however, like you mine.

[TS3sta3]

I see the Americans did not abandon the divisions, then whose foreign honey was copied during the reform of the RF Armed Forces?

[Altona]

An interesting selection ... Camels and an Afghan artillery soldier smiled on his ears from a shot ...

[Skuto]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VX8-S2W1_Cw
Is it real or not?

[Kars]

He took Abrashka to the collection.

[Bruevich]

I liked the camouflage of the warriors near the gun. Right stalker of freedom. I want this too.

[Olegovich]

The professor here is a vaccine against a real adversary. And who wants to hear and understand, he will hear and highlight the most important thing. For me, the main thing is that the Americans do not calm down and are steadily developing offensive weapons, very sophisticated. And it is not necessary to close oneself from this knowledge, but it is necessary to include brains (albeit laziness).

[netishunUA]

I never understood why traffic controllers on aircraft carriers?

[studentmati]

Quote: netishunUA

I never understood why traffic controllers on aircraft carriers?

It’s about the same that a pedestrian will never understand the driver until he becomes a driver.
No offense, Roman, please!

[Alex 241]

http://takr-kiev.ucoz.com/forum/75-326-1 вот интересный материал по теме. http://1ynx.ru/post/3485

[studentmati]

For amers, this is a whole performance and it looks like that, to pay tribute effectively!

[Alex 241]

Sasha and most importantly appropriate.

[netishunUA]

Do they have any other responsibilities besides waving flags? Well, can they be mechanics there?

[Alex 241]

The deck team has a clear specialization, each is only concerned with its own business. Specialists are distinguished by the colors of sweaters and vests.

[Alex 241]

............................

[studentmati]

Respect, attentiveness and alertness, and at the same time purposefulness and hatred. The enemy will be defeated!

[studentmati]

Quote: Alex 241

The deck team has a clear specialization, each is only concerned with its own business. Specialists are distinguished by the colors of sweaters and vests.

It is in strict discipline in the performance of their specific duties that the guarantee of common success lies!

[Alex 241]

Quote: studentmati

in strict discipline

As usual, did not leave freedom for maneuver 5+

[studentmati]

Quote: Alex 241

As usual, did not leave freedom to maneuver 5+ good

What was taught! That's what I learned!

[Alex 241]

Yes, I know: I’ll die but I won’t let the ore go

[Alex 241]

So hold your whack .......

[studentmati]

Quote: Alex 241

So hold your whack .......

Response

If I am not mistaken, is this the year 2001 ?: Thank you, Sasha!

[Alex 241]

2005 San, I just can’t find that film where he is in Australia.

[studentmati]

Quote: Alex 241

2005 San, I just can’t find that film where he is in Australia.

In Australia 2005, the kit was different.

[Alex 241]

Sanya, I’ll find it out, it was necessary to see all these cool pilots there, when they sat on the ground according to the weather, and our whack on a thunderstorm left. Board 55204 in the parking lot of Darwin International Airport (Australia). November 25, 2005. http://www.nnre.ru/transport_i_aviacija/aviacija_i_vremja_2010_04/p3.php

[studentmati]

Quote: Alex 241

Sanya, I’ll find it out, it was necessary to see all these cool pilots there, when they sat on the ground according to the weather, and our whack on a thunderstorm left. Board 55204 in the parking lot of Darwin International Airport (Australia). November 25, 2005. http://www.nnre.ru/transport_i_aviacija/aviacija_i_vremja_2010_04/p3.php

Deeply modified car (I mean wing kit)
Well, according to its ideology, the M-55 needs only a run-up strip and a landing strip. Other factors are secondary.

[Alex 241]

Thank God at least this car wasn’t stolen, it was used, and people were at work, otherwise it was like that now!

[studentmati]

Where and when? is blasphemy?

[Alex 241]

Sasha's pictures are dated 2010. The planes from the department are either MAI or MPEI unclear.

[Alex 241]

I found Sasha, this is a dump in Monino, bl ... it would be better if I didn’t look! http://crazys.info/foto/1346814117-svalka-zabroshennyh-samoletov.html

[studentmati]

Quote: Alex 241

I found Sasha, this is a dump in Monino, bl ... it would be better if I didn’t look! http://crazys.info/foto/1346814117-svalka-zabroshennyh-samoletov.html

And about the training base of the Moscow Aviation Institute and the Moscow Power Engineering Institute there was an article on our website "This is how airplanes die" ... I'd better refrain from commenting what I saw, my hair on end.

[studentmati]

Quote: Alex 241

Sasha's pictures are dated 2010. The planes from the department are either MAI or MPEI unclear.

As for the M-17, this is the second flying machine. "The war is not over until the last soldier is buried." Is it really that hard to bury? Thanks to the patriots who restored the third car at the Monino parking lot!

[Alex 241]

Hi Sash, the soldier said for sure!

[studentmati]

Quote: Alex 241

Hi Sash, the soldier said for sure!

Hi Sasha. Heart bleeds from what he sees.

[Alex 241]

I understand you buddy.

[studentmati]

Quote: Alex 241

Yes, I know: I’m going to die, but I won’t let go of the drinks soldierier

Maybe that's why Russia is respected, read afraid?

[Alex 241]

Do you remember Sash somehow quoting the instructions to the American F-4 pilots, she was just a breath of fear.

[studentmati]

Quote: Alex 241

Do you remember Sash somehow quoting the instructions to the American F-4 pilots, she was just a breath of fear.

I remembered, remembered, but I repent I do not remember.
The ideology is clear, I’ll find it to read.
The ideology of victory in fearlessness based on unconditional devotion to the motherland!

[Alex 241]

Sash literally remembered for a lifetime: the Soviet pilot is a product of a totalitarian system, and therefore absolutely unpredictable in battle.

[studentmati]

Quote: Alex 241

Sash literally remembered for a lifetime: the Soviet pilot is a product of a totalitarian system, and therefore absolutely unpredictable in battle.

This is an axiom! A Russian officer, only then an officer, when he has an internal ideological core!
And if I love, then I’m unpredictable, for the sake of my love ....

[bubble82009]

given such good intelligence information. only the faces of not all the heroes of the photo shoot are visible.

[Comrade1945]

Roth Front, comrades.
Tell me ... I don’t understand one, what, excuse me, what the hell are we once a week treated with portions of American military propaganda?
I don’t know about you, but I’m personally tired of it.

[Bradley]

Where is the "propaganda"?

[netishunUA]

Enemy need to know in person