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Pogrom in Kapotnya: nationalists against migrants

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Migrants - legal and illegal - remain a problem for Russia. It became known that in the depths of the State Duma a bill was prepared that only legal migrants with a work permit from the Federal Migration Service, who regularly pay taxes, have the right to send their children to Russian schools and kindergartens. The author of the bill is United Russia party Aleksey Zhuravlev.


"He will arrive at the janitor's 8 thousand wages without any design and bring a family of ten! My wife is going to the maternity hospital, the children are going to kindergarten and school. So he has more social security than many citizens of the country have," Zhuravlev was outraged.

However, this is not the only problem associated with immigration to Russia. The task of society is to be able to assimilate the good, to learn in a civilized way to deal with the bad. The task of immigrants is to behave in a law-abiding and benevolent manner to absorb the culture of the country. That is, this is a common work.

When something in it goes wrong, there are plots like Kapotnya. This is the Moscow district, where the next collision of radical youth with migrants took place.

In Kapotnya they were looking for aliens — illegal migrants. It all ended in a banal pogrom. Guys in masks and balaclava beat out the door of the hostel with a ram.

The hostel started shooting back. A local girl was hit by a bullet in the head — they were fired from a hunting rifle from the second floor.

“A young man, a native of Dagestan, made several shots. We saw a woman with a bloody head. I dragged her behind the ambulance. Police officers were inactive,” said Narostop movement coordinator Alexei Zaitsev.

Zaitsev is one of the leaders of a public organization that fights spice traders because the level of illegal migration and the crime rate among illegal migration has reached its apogee. In Kapotnya, Narcostop was invited by other social activists from the organization of the fighters against illegal migration, the Shield of Moscow.

To defend against illegal immigrants with a public shield, it occurred to a local municipal deputy. He called for the youth to go to a hostel.

"On our part, there was no action there, until we were attacked from our side weapons and they didn’t start shooting, "Valery Solyanin, a member of the municipal assembly of Kapotny, assured.

Now, activists claim that they did not think that this would be the end, because they just wanted to check for work permits and call the police.

It is difficult to imagine the horror of people who survived such a "check of documents". The doors were knocked out indiscriminately, and only then were found behind them native Muscovites with children.

The leaders of Moscow's Shield and Narcostop are detained for three days until clarification of the circumstances.

After the pogrom, community activists picket the district court and blame each other. This is the first time that they are behind bars.

"They should be banned. They have no right to enter houses, check documents, approach another person only because he has a different skin color or another eye cut. This is a shame! This is an analogue of Nazi Germany’s militants. From this humankind was saved in the mid-twentieth century, ”said Aider Muzdabayev, deputy editor-in-chief of the Moskovsky Komsomolets.

Fishers of pedophiles and illegal migrants are dozens of youth organizations that take on the functions of the state, because they believe that the police cannot cope.

"Now the trend is very terrible, because anyone can be caught if you are a stranger. Yes, he may be a potential criminal or already a criminal, but we still have a presumption of innocence," said Alla Gerber, a human rights activist and member of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation. .

Narcostop caught Spice merchant from Central Asia. He was twisted and laid face down on the asphalt.

Someone supports activists, someone protects visitors. “Those who allowed them to come here are to blame, not to work, not to work, but no one gave the right to beat,” said one of the Muscovites.

In the municipal hostel, which is called the "chudo", only the waiting list must live, but here - 90% of migrant workers-illegal immigrants. After the shootout, the police detained almost 60 illegal immigrants. The question is, where were you before?
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  1. biglow
    biglow 30 September 2013 16: 53 New
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    the younger generation decided to start solving those problems that power cannot solve. With such youth, not everything is lost with us .. good
    1. Alexei
      Alexei 30 September 2013 16: 59 New
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      The main thing is not to overdo it, otherwise they will not differ from skins.
      1. Heccrbq .2
        Heccrbq .2 30 September 2013 17: 13 New
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        Are they killing us, poisoning us with drugs, occupying our jobs, and should we “overdo it?” If the authorities are indifferent, then the people themselves have begun to organize themselves against the dominance of non-Russians in Russia. And who is there to blame that migrants need to be protected? Pay attention to their surnames, the same nerus.
        1. old man54
          old man54 30 September 2013 17: 41 New
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          Quote: Heccrbq .2
          They kill us, poison us, occupy our jobs, and we should "overdo it"?

          Everything that you have listed, and even more, comes from the tacit consent of those who are today called the official authorities in Russia. Or do you naively think that they don’t know about the problem? Nobody would have come here if they hadn’t been provided with work here, and with those who employ foreigners against the law, they would really and effectively fight! And why in fact no one is fighting with anyone ??? And because the new owners of enterprises are very interested in illegal emigration of gratuitous labor from Central Asia, they also undertook other shushara near-profit! The less they pay for labor, the better, and the better not to pay at all! If there were no language barrier with blacks from central Africa, they would start to bring blacks here! Why do you think there is no real fight against emigration, but only in words and only its appearance? Because the rich are profitable, less cost, more profit! And you still continue to vote for Putin and all this cesspool of him!
          1. 222222
            222222 30 September 2013 19: 27 New
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            "Capitalism, my friend." The race for profit. Whose capitalists are these? Do you think Russian? Not very likely. Their capitals have long been beyond the hill-Prokhorov example when nominated for mayor of Moscow. He removed himself from the race if only he could not transfer capital to Russia.
            Yes, and the apparatus of employees of all stripes near this feeding trough. Not licky cream lick doing nothing. Give it a try. defeat this hydra ..
        2. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 30 September 2013 17: 43 New
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          Pay attention to their last names, the same nerus.



          And what are the names of officials sounding mutually beneficial with diasporas, migrant leaders?
          1. Alexander Petrovich
            Alexander Petrovich 30 September 2013 20: 39 New
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            I hope the "migrants" this applies to the inhabitants of Central Asia and not to their Orthodox Ukrainians, Moldovans, etc., otherwise I want to move to Russia to live in MB and this is my personal right to choose.
            1. matross
              matross 1 October 2013 11: 13 New
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              Quote: Alexander Petrovich
              I hope the "migrants" this applies to the inhabitants of Central Asia and not to their Orthodox Ukrainians, Moldovans, etc.

              Of course, only to immigrants from Muslim countries! Brothers Slavs, welcome to Russia! drinks
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 30 September 2013 20: 46 New
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            Quote: gunnerminer
            And what are the names of officials sounding mutually beneficial with diasporas, migrant leaders?

            You need not look at the surname. Chubais is Lithuanian by name, Nemtsov is Russian, and in fact God’s people.
            1. kiril1246
              kiril1246 9 December 2018 14: 10 New
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              Quote: Ingvar 72
              You need not look at the surname. Chubais is Lithuanian by name, Nemtsov is Russian, and in fact God’s people.

              That's it. The country is that they went to smash some hostel, not the Israeli embassy.
          3. vezunchik
            vezunchik 30 September 2013 22: 19 New
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            mode rotted to the ground. we see throwing - an attempt to reanimate pension reform, introduce new requisitions from the population (apartment insurance), go too far with tow trucks, etc. They don’t know what to do, but I don’t want to tear myself away from the tit ...
          4. Tartary
            Tartary 1 October 2013 03: 48 New
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            Quote: gunnerminer
            Pay attention to their last names, the same nerus.
            And what are the names of officials sounding mutually beneficial with diasporas, migrant leaders?

            Quote from the article: “They must be banned. They do not have the right to enter homes, check documents, approach another person only because he has a different skin color or a different cut of eyes. This is a shame! This is an analogue of Nazi Germany’s militants. That’s where it started mankind was saved in the middle of the twentieth century, "said Ayder Muzhdabaev, deputy editor-in-chief of Moskovsky Komsomolets.

            So after all, this is the Husband-da-Bai, who, before the May 9th parade, declared terrible things about veterans and the parade itself ... Gozman-villain, echoed this bai, adding about the beauty of the fascist military uniforms ...

            Ghouls, in a word.

            But at the right moment, they still remember about nationalism and the victory over fascism ... At the same time, they are talking about humanity, and not about the Soviet people, who, in fact, alone defeated the Nazi reptiles ...
            Cosmopolitans, what to take from them? Tests? But who needs their ascorids?
            1. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 1 October 2013 12: 24 New
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              Ghouls are destroyed, and nits, such as husband husband and gozman drown in shit, three times, did not deserve the best ... !!!
        3. smersh70
          smersh70 30 September 2013 17: 54 New
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          Quote: Heccrbq .2
          They are killing us


          and by the way, their grandfathers protected you and us from the Germans .... and in difficult times for 41 years they took hungry children from Leningrad ... Ukraine ... shared the last piece of bread with your grandfather and grandmother .. this also should not be forgotten. ..and right now they have a difficult time .... maybe they need help too ... within the law of course .. to strengthen measures not to neutralize migration ... introduce taxes ... so that they pay according to the law ... tightly control law enforcement agencies and business.....
          and then so ahead to go ..skinheads found a new operational cover - they thought up a public organization ...... and who will be responsible for the consequences .....
          1. Captain
            Captain 30 September 2013 18: 25 New
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            and right now they have a difficult time .... maybe they need help

            It seems to me that we have already fully helped them. They built schools, hospitals, roads.

            A simple example:
            Uzbekistan - during the years of Soviet power prom. production increased 100 times, in Kyrgyzstan more than 400 times, Tajikistan - about 200 times.

            That the Empire, that the Union, all spent more for each resident of the national suburbs than for the same resident of the native Russian region. But per capita GDP was highest in these regions.

            But how did they repay? Even before the collapse of the USSR, Russians began to survive, and sometimes they simply killed. For example, in 89, almost half a million Russians lived in Tajikistan, and after the revolution, 10 times fewer remained.

            they have a hard time

            Difficult, yes. But let me ... Didn’t they even 20 years ago with foam at the mouth demanded independence, cursed the "Russian invaders"? Now let them enjoy freedom.
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 30 September 2013 20: 51 New
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              Quote: Captain
              They built schools, hospitals, roads.


              you didn’t build .. but who do you mean by “building" laughing
              and Soviet power built !!!!! and the Communists .. by the way everyone built ....
              Quote: Captain
              they spent more for each resident of the national suburbs than for the same resident of the native Russian region


              Well, I heard this in the early 90's from the lips of Zhirinovsky .. let's leave this topic ....
              Quote: Captain
              For example, in 89, almost half a million Russians lived in Tajikistan, and after the revolution, 10 times fewer remained.


              Well, this does not mean that they were killed all .... this was due to the fact that the majority of Russians wanted to see their future with their historical homeland, including material and linguistic and simply mono-ethnic surroundings)
              Quote: Captain
              Isn’t it 20 years ago they demanded independence with foam at the mouth,


              the forbidden fruit is sweet)) everyone watched primarily Moscow TV .... at first the Interregional Group screamed .. and above all the Baltic states ..... by the way - look at the results of the 1991 referendum .. and then say ......
              1. RA77
                RA77 1 October 2013 23: 10 New
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                Quote: smersh70
                you didn’t build .. but who do you mean by “building"
                and Soviet power built !!!!! and the Communists .. by the way everyone built ....


                Why do you think the Russians believe that they built it all for you? Yes, because all the design work, design and implementation of all complex and not very objects in the USSR was done by Russians in the vast majority. Well, or rather, people living in the territory of modern Russia and, in decreasing order, Ukraine and Belarus. And who dragged the cement on the line (although it is clear who) is not so important. And the Papuans could.
                Take a look at the Molniya NGO employees who created Buran and Energy:

                http://www.buran.ru/htm/kontruk.htm

                All Russians! (I do not divide Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians, considering them to be one artificially divided people) And your brother is not there at all. And a similar picture was at all difficult and not very construction sites of the USSR, this can be said with full confidence. Because all the famous Soviet scientists who became famous for their inventions / developments or who received a Nobel or Fields Prize are all Russians! Slightly diluted by the Jews, where without them. But most importantly you are not there. No one from the Caucasus or Central Asia. Coincidentally, you are the one who likes to say that everything was built by a certain "Soviet power."
                If you do not agree with the above, then tell me, why now, adjusted for quality and scale, can Russia build everything that the USSR built, but you don’t? Suppose you say that the plants are all on the territory of Russia, and you don’t have anything. Well, it’s from that and on the territory of Russia that she built everything for you. And then, if you blame everything on this certain “Soviet power”, then the particles of it should have remained independent of you. There must be people who know and can. And the money to create the conditions for these people you have, not poor. Why can't you build anything so remarkable? In the days of the USSR, Russia built itself and you nuclear power plants, hydroelectric power stations, cosmodromes, and now it is building. I’m sure that I can build a nuclear power plant in Bushehr, a cosmodrome in the Far East, and a hydroelectric station. Well, and you ... I don’t know anything so remarkable, high-tech that they are building in Azerbaijan. Only you can buy technology from other countries and organize a screwdriver assembly. And when the Russians say that they built it all for you, you say that it’s not they but the “Soviet power”.
            2. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 30 September 2013 20: 58 New
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              Quote: Captain
              Is it not they who, 20 years ago, demanded independence with foam at the mouth, cursed the "Russian invaders"? Now let them enjoy freedom.

              Most people want back. The so-called elite fingers oppress.
              1. smersh70
                smersh70 30 September 2013 21: 19 New
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                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Most people want back.


                The GDP was excellent on this point - he who does not want to return to the USSR has no heart, and who wants to restore the USSR has no head ". It seems so he said ...
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 30 September 2013 21: 50 New
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                  Quote: smersh70
                  The GDP was excellent on this point - he who does not want to return to the USSR has no heart, and who wants to restore the USSR has no head ". It seems so he said ...

                  Well, at least I didn’t mention the priest ... Joke. But seriously, we gave up too many territories for which we once paid with blood. And the most annoying thing is that they also regret leaving now.
                2. Mairos
                  Mairos 1 October 2013 11: 30 New
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                  You know, I don’t want all 15 republics back to the new “democratic” pseudo-USSR - it just will be, a war of all against all. I want to live in Russia, and not in the Uzbek-Tajik-Azerbaijani-Kyrgyz, because from there millions will trample us, and not vice versa. Sorry, there is no hatred, but I DO NOT WANT.
                  As for the 90s, my mother-in-law once left Tashkent for Kaliningrad, she couldn’t sell an apartment for normal money - they said to her face that you don’t want to sell cheap, you’ll just leave it like that, you’ll leave here anyway, here now our land. This is a concrete example - a person was just in shock. Even those Uzbeks with whom they had quite normal relations went crazy.
                  I myself saw this in Mongolia, the closer the time went by the end of the 80s, the more the Mongols drove a roof - we became "occupiers", and they, as it were, were revived nationally, well, they were brutalized at the same time. I went to the city with Kulikov’s antenna in order to dismiss, if necessary, from “nationally aware of ourselves”.
                3. SASCHAmIXEEW
                  SASCHAmIXEEW 1 October 2013 12: 46 New
                  +1
                  The GDP was excellent on this point — he who does not want to return to the USSR does not have a heart, and who wants to restore the USSR does not have a head. It seems so he said ...
                  Let him figure it out with his own head ... The fact that the Hebrew-speaking trash outplayed him (the KGB) and we are now in a huge railway station, doesn’t he understand this? If he understands and doesn’t do anything, then he’s with them or like a stool, wedding general !!!
              2. kiril1246
                kiril1246 9 December 2018 14: 14 New
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                Quote: Ingvar 72

                Most people want back. The so-called elite fingers oppress.

                No one forbids them to change power.
            3. de_monSher
              de_monSher 1 October 2013 05: 54 New
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              It seems to me that we have already fully helped them. They built schools, hospitals, roads.

              A simple example:
              Uzbekistan - during the years of Soviet power prom. production increased 100 times, in Kyrgyzstan more than 400 times, Tajikistan - about 200 times.


              It seems to me that this is not the merit of Russia, I am nevertheless the USSR. Only the USSR, thanks to broad cooperation All its regions, including Central Asia, showed industrial production growth rates of up to 30 percent per year. But with what fright you are, you attribute these merits only to ummmm ... "to myself, the chosen and beloved" - I have no idea.

              And yet, it seems to me that to give one’s knowledge, to transfer one’s skills to others is not only a direct duty, but also the duty of any normal person, regardless of race, color, or nationality. And also, it’s the sacred duty of any person to help near and far, relatives, neighbors, close and not close people. After all, the main thing in this world not how you relate to you, but how you relate to others. In the USSR, they understood this from the very inception of this great country. And in the stubs that remained of him - they do not understand point-blank. You are a bright subject to this. And on this basis, it seems to me that the majority of the population of the former USSR = And it doesn’t matter whether in Russia, whether in Uzbekistan, or in Ukraine =, the disease is now in a difficult stage - called kurkulizm and farmerism.

              And yet, it seems to me, over these 22 years, we all managed to compose a bunch of myths about each other ... and even managed to believe in them. This is sad. But by the way, this is nothing more than a historical process ...
              1. Gur
                Gur 1 October 2013 09: 17 New
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                Interestingly, are you the only one who thinks so, or is there someone else with you? I don’t know your place of residence, but what an interesting thing it turns out, for some reason everyone remembers the achievements of the USSR, in particular citizens of now independent states, only when they have ethnic or economic problems in Russia. Then everyone immediately begins to remember that the grandfathers defeated fascism together, that they gave shelter and food to the refugees from the Second World War, and they believe that the achievements of the USSR are a joint achievement, but no one wants to remember that, even the Russian Empire, saved many peoples both from genocide and from various epidemics, from typhoid to syphilis. And now this help to Russia in the history of these states is voiced as a colonial seizure. And each elite of these states, twisting history, already refuses oaths and petitions from the citizenship of Russia, accusing their own ancestors of treason and betrayal of their people. You speak beautifully about the obligations of enlightened peoples to share knowledge and skills, all this is very good, come learn to learn, but no one gives you the right to come to the country and not respect its laws and traditions, from the basic rules of hygiene and social behavior, to the performance of your religious rites. You write that society is sick, I completely agree with you, we are for 22 years have grown the feelings of the owner, the greedy individual of the consumer, we forgot what it is to build and build. It is on these vices that the “mighty of this world”, the newly-born masters of life rule us, forcing us to think about affluence, profit at all costs, distracting us with these problems from our rights, to a worthy existence (education, medicine, labor, housing, secured old age). Asian republics did not become republics after the collapse of the USSR, but caliphs, khanates, anything but states where the khanate, bayonet and so on were revived, where these people who come to work in Russia cannot raise their esteemed tail, not to demand from themselves in the country the right to decent work and existence. There is a massive fooling of the people, both on religious grounds and in terms of education, bringing their vision to education in education. And here many people write that supposedly the Russians leaving the fraternal republics were guided only by the supposed desire to live in their ethnic group, this is falsehood and a lie, behind the supposedly visible prosperity, all the same problems are hidden, interethnic, economic, futility, and sometimes just fear that at one point, you may be extreme as it was in the 90s. That's how it is.
                1. de_monSher
                  de_monSher 1 October 2013 14: 55 New
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                  Interestingly, are you the only one who thinks so, or is there someone else with you?


                  If you contact me, then the phrase - "one think so, "it’s a little inappropriate for me. Cher is a man’s name, actually ... *)

                  As for the fact that each elite twists the story, even the latest - I completely agree with you. A simple example - for you it is already 100 percent true that Uzbekistan struggled to break out of the USSR and ruined it. Although in fact, everything is exactly the opposite - the USSR collapsed, the Slavic three states - Russia, Ukraine, Belarus. Uzbekistan, like Kazakhstan, was tried to the last to keep the USSR, at least in the form of the Confederation.

                  In the same way, for you the truth in the last resort, the anti-Russianness not only of the elites, but also of the peoples is both, a very, very dubious value. Here, above, there was a comment about the depreciated apartments in Tashkent. Yes, there was a moment when Russia threw large, all CIS states, vowing that "there will be no exchange of money, we’ll give a tooth, we will have a RUBLE zone, definitely". To this noise, I exported a huge amount of cash to Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, etc., and roughly speaking, if by "hair dryer", knocked over all out of the blue. By the way, this step did not bring significant dividends to Russia. On the contrary, it got worse for you - and from that moment on our "elites" began to feel unfriendly to Russia, even those who had been very good before that. I remember the moment when the apartment in Tashkent, 4-bedroom, fell to the bar 200-300 bucks. Suffered then all, everyone was shitty. But naturally, you need to emphasize once again that the Russians were all shitty. Yes, and then recall that at such a moment, some kind of stupid bastard - of which at that moment there were a lot of them, there were much fewer such at the moment - could express anti-Russian slogans. Nobody has yet repealed populism, and on populism, just the same, many critters make their image. But this does not mean that they express the majority opinion.

                  In general, regarding your post, I can remind you of the words of the President of Russia, addressed to the United States, about the "exclusivity and election" of an individual people. I personally, towards Russia and the Russians, have the warmest, friendliest and most excellent feelings. And there is only one desire - that you always thrive, that your children are smart and healthy. For me you are exceptional and best - since close friends, neighbors, relatives are almost people. But if the canoe about "exclusivity" comes from you yourself, and with the complete infringement upon the dignity of other nations, such verbiage causes me disgust, do not blame me.

                  That's something like this ...
                  1. Gur
                    Gur 2 October 2013 08: 01 New
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                    [I apologize for having mixed up your gender, apparently singer Cher played a role. Well, hereinafter. With regard to recent history, I will not puff my cheeks and somehow justify the criminal trio to blame for the collapse of the USSR. But where did you see in my post such accusations of overturning this period of history? I dealt with the times of the past and not quite the past (the insidious Russians came and destroyed our identity in us, made us forget the language of our ancestors, and almost ruined all nations) When they call it even 70 years of Soviet power - occupation. But you went too far about money, before the collapse of the USSR there was such a thing as monetary reform, this was the first time when the money burned not only the hard workers who then saved it all, but also the money of your biys who began to flourish in the Brezhnev era (in particular, in Uzbekistan, such a high-profile case, if you remember it) Is it so angry your elites? So I think that judging by the court case there was still anything without money. And there is no need to cast a shadow on the wattle fence. The elites that formed after the collapse of the USSR do not have a love for Russia in another (it seems to me) That don’t give God, on the one hand, Russia would not open the eyes of the people living under this elite, hence the accusations of occupation, and draining the story from the finger, and to the fact that the cunning and more scorched Russian traders (thieves, businessmen, etc.) would not pass the locals.
                    And it is not necessary about exclusivity, the question now is not about that, but about the elementary desire of the Russians to restore order in their country, to get rid of illegal and, if possible, reduce legal labor emigrants. The desire to protect themselves and children from such things as the plague, drugs, banditry, religious extremism. I also abhor chauvinism, I recently read an article about Proton and the Baikonur Cosmodrome, the diarrhea that poured from different directions is simply disgusting, when the Russians don’t want to understand that it’s worthless to litter the neighboring state, and on the other, the Kazakh’s ambitions in space exploration . And I also wanted us all to live in peace and harmony, in respect for each other. Only in truth, with respect to the past and present, and not so much as beneficial at the moment.
                    Something like this.
                    1. de_monSher
                      de_monSher 2 October 2013 12: 25 New
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                      Good afternoon...

                      But you went too far about money, before the collapse of the USSR there was such a thing as monetary reform, this is the first time when money burned not only hard workers who then saved it all,


                      I didn’t go too far - Pavlovskaya reform, this is a separate song and these were the realities of the USSR, which has lived its last years. And, yes, then a blow was made to all accumulations - for example, Mom's and Father's accumulations then flew into the pipe.
                      But the monetary reform of the “new Russia”, this is another song, and this reform was carried out completely in a crap - thanks to the liberals who then "hurricane" in power. And this is the reason for the waryness of the elites = in any case, Uzbekistan - precisely = in relation to Russia. Prior to this, the Uzbek authorities, towards Russia were absolutely loyal.
                      I try to tell you about this only because, apparently, you do not take this moment into account in your conclusions, which is sad. And it’s not at all because the poison accumulated against Russia is dripping from my fangs. Oh, m ...


                      The desire to protect themselves and children from such things as the plague, drugs, banditry, religious extremism.


                      I know for sure two countries in Central Asia and its environs - Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan - the latter went so far as to mine vast sections of the border = and, by the way, was attacked and pressured by those who do not need a closed border at all - drug dealers = who, in the same way, are trying hard to protect themselves from these things. And these countries have the strength and desire. No, I understand that if Russia doesn’t need close relations with these countries, then of course it’s not a question - “divorce” is absolutely normal. With Uzbekistan, of which I am a citizen, everything is more or less clear - at this stage the "love" between our countries has come to naught = which is also sad - at the beginning of the 90s we quite successfully solved the problems of Tajikistan together = and the matter is complete " a divorce, "but Kazakhstan didn’t please you?
                      No one argues that until the 90s, in the same Leninsk, on Baikonur there was not a single Kazakh = he lived there for a long time =, so what? The realities of the USSR were such that it had several centers for the development of science, technology, and production. And it so happened that Moscow and Tashkent were "responsible" for Baikonur. And what about the fact that now Kazakhstan is catching up? Why don't you like the fact that the close and fraternal for you, the Russian people, are trying to learn to dream about space, about stars? I would be in your place, I would just take a deep breath, say - "thank God, dare friends!", And that’s all ...

                      Mdya ... go something like this ...
                  2. kiril1246
                    kiril1246 9 December 2018 14: 17 New
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                    Quote: de_monSher
                    the canoe about "exclusivity" comes from you yourself, and with it the complete dignity of other nations

                    Is it about Russians or about another nation?
              2. Mairos
                Mairos 1 October 2013 11: 36 New
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                “After all, the main thing in this world is not how you relate to you, but how you relate to others” - this was so often in the USSR, but now this is not and will never be. In Asia and the Caucasus, and everywhere where clan-clan relations have been preserved, they are very clearly divided on a national basis into friends and foes, and relations on this basis can vary greatly. And never look what they SAY to you, it is important that they DO. And they do everything and always for their own. Aliens there are second-class people initially. Nationalism for the East and the Caucasus is part of culture, because they don’t declare it, like our bad Natsiks, they live with it
                1. de_monSher
                  de_monSher 1 October 2013 16: 07 New
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                  Nationalism for the East and the Caucasus is part of the culture,


                  Wuhu ... a friend, good, Russian, left Tashkent to Lipetsk, and still "moans", directly, - "Cher, you can’t imagine WHERE is nationalism. I take my words back, what I called nationalism in In Uzbekistan, it’s rather a rigidly patriarchal mentality, which is difficult to put up with. It’s easier to scold him, but at the same time you begin to feel the difference only when faced with something else, for example, true nationalism".

                  Man, you hang labels so easily, but I dare to notice that your knowledge of the subject that you are discussing is academic at best, usually at the level of hearing, but at worst you think like "I decided , as many say so, but by and large - I don’t like foreigners. " Choose what type of thinking you have yourself - there are no other alternatives.

                  Like that...
                  1. de_monSher
                    de_monSher 1 October 2013 16: 22 New
                    0
                    and in the Caucasus


                    And about the Caucasus - Caucasians in their attitude, closer to you, Russian. Both They and you have explosive temperament - just the Caucasians are hotter - all the difference. And so, both you and the Caucasians, they know how to famously, in splendor, chop and ruin what they have been building for centuries, carefully and carefully, other people and not you.
              3. SASCHAmIXEEW
                SASCHAmIXEEW 1 October 2013 13: 05 New
                +2
                They didn’t take a headache at a healthy one, the Russians never threw into trouble ... !!! The Russians have a song: "Steppe Eagle", so the RUSSIAN GENE DOES NOT CHANGE !!! an example of this is apartmentless cops in Chechnya, and silver-free 22-year-olds serving in the RUSSIAN ARMY and not betraying RUSSIA !!! "Slavic march" of "72 meters" - you think up? I think no!!!
          2. Grenader
            Grenader 30 September 2013 18: 27 New
            38
            Quote: smersh70

            and by the way, their grandfathers protected you and us from the Germans .... and in difficult times for 41 years they took hungry children from Leningrad ... Ukraine ... shared the last piece of bread with your grandfather and grandmother .. this also should not be forgotten. ..and right now they have a difficult time .... maybe they need help too ... within the law of course .. to strengthen measures not to neutralize migration ... introduce taxes ... so that they pay according to the law ... tightly control law enforcement agencies and business.....
            and then so ahead to go ..skinheads found a new operational cover - they thought up a public organization ...... and who will be responsible for the consequences .....

            Grandfathers may have defended, for which the fathers threw the Russians out of their independent republics in the 91st, killed, took property. And now they have nothing to come to take our jobs. In 1991, I served in the army just when our compatriots began to be expelled from the Central Asian republics. The Uzbek who served with me was terribly angry when they once again showed clashes in the news with the Russians in his homeland, he said that all his countrymen were shit ... it would be because none of them could work, only trade, no one with higher education. What will they do? - I looked at the input.
          3. True
            True 30 September 2013 18: 42 New
            10
            Yes, especially the Crimean Tatars with the Chechens. Do not smack nonsense!
          4. Beon
            Beon 30 September 2013 19: 05 New
            23
            and by the way, ours and their grandfathers were citizens of one country. But we are so different. And they did not welcome the presence of the Russian population after their independence. I have a wife from Uzbekistan (Russian), so I know what I'm talking about. as for the Caucasians (that is, citizens of Russia, which means they have the right to be anywhere in Russia in compliance with all the rules of the law of course), they got everyone with their impudence, disrespect for the local population and lawlessness (mainly this concerns their youth). they know how to educate them, nothing like that, otherwise they wouldn’t have been such Neanderthals. And so, with the inaction of the authorities, the patience of the people ends.
          5. tupolev-95
            tupolev-95 30 September 2013 20: 31 New
            13
            And there are no complaints about grandfathers. Only after gaining independence in many republics began with the oppression of the Russian-speaking population, and after the failed economic "prosperity" everyone rushed to work in Russia. And the fact that such things happen is evidence that people's patience running out, but the Russian government in its repertoire.
          6. bilgesez
            bilgesez 30 September 2013 20: 51 New
            10
            And how many Russians they killed in their republics, how many Russian women were raped, and their children.
          7. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 30 September 2013 20: 55 New
            10
            Quote: smersh70
            and then so ahead to go ..skinheads found a new operational cover - they thought up a public organization ...... and who will be responsible for the consequences .....

            I agree. The action is most likely ostentatious, but the people are boiling up, the topic is very hot. Laws need to be changed, plus mandatory control over their implementation. I already referred to the Emirates, everything is simple and clear there, I came to work, work. BUT, it costs ONCE to break the law, immediately goodbye FOREVER!
          8. vezunchik
            vezunchik 30 September 2013 22: 21 New
            +3
            The most effective way to ruin a country is to fuel the national question. This is the worst.
          9. Muadipus
            Muadipus 1 October 2013 01: 32 New
            12
            so reminded already. Probably evacuated to Central Asia, did not commit atrocities, did not sell drugs ... and calmly forged a victory together at the machine tool.

            Threat. I have neighbors one family of Georgians, the second Armenians are the cutest and most intelligent people, it is a pleasure to meet them in the front door, they are more Russian than many of us.
            But .. these whom they showed in the plot .. they don’t want to live according to our customs. They carry their culture, and all the worst of it, because there are no elders like in their homeland, no one will condemn.
          10. domokl
            domokl 1 October 2013 06: 13 New
            +2
            Quote: smersh70
            ..and who will be responsible for the consequences .....

            Your son-soldier who will receive a bullet in the next sweep will answer ...
            State structures do not comply with the existing laws. More than half of the janitors are illegal., Sochi illegal builders are building illegal immigrants ... Who doesn’t know this in Russia? But the question is simply being solved, legalize illegal immigrants, ruin businessmen who use illegal immigrants There are such laws.
            1. Ustas
              Ustas 1 October 2013 08: 40 New
              +2
              Quote: domokl
              And the question is simply solved, legalize illegal immigrants

              This is unlikely to help. They have a different mentality, a different ideology. They want to live in our country, but in terms of their concepts.
              Quote: domokl
              bust businessmen who use illegal immigrants.

              Other businessmen, arrogant and greedy, will replace the ravaged businessmen (tfu, a word which, not Russian, businessmen, is better suited). It is necessary to change the economic system. American economic system in the furnace !!!!
              1. SASCHAmIXEEW
                SASCHAmIXEEW 1 October 2013 13: 28 New
                -2
                I completely agree, as soon as we began to live according to their rules, that is, you are to blame for what I want to eat, immediately all the earcaps-human rights defenders were scolding !!! And they don’t know what our jobs occupy? The Jewish "machine" didn’t stop working ... That's who we have to fight !!! With the 5 column Jewish lobby in our government !!!!! Mendel, dvarkovichi, freaks, Chubais and those who joined them ... traitors !!! Well, any crooks from the same number, such as Nemtsov, Kosyanov, Kasparov and Gaidar with bulk !!!
                1. kiril1246
                  kiril1246 9 December 2018 14: 40 New
                  0
                  Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
                  The Jewish "Zionist" machine "didn’t stop working ... That's who it is necessary to fight !!! With the 5th column of the Jewish Zionist lobby in our government !!!!! Mendel, dvarkovichi, greft, chubais and those who joined them ... traitors !!! Well and all sorts of crooks from the same number, such as Nemtsov, Kosyanov, Kasparov and Gaidar with bulk !!!

                  Correctly. And they shot down a plane.
          11. Ustas
            Ustas 1 October 2013 08: 24 New
            +3
            Quote: smersh70
            and by the way, their grandfathers protected you and us from the Germans .... and in difficult times for 41 years they took hungry children from Leningrad ... Ukraine ... shared the last piece of bread with your grandfather and grandmother .. this also should not be forgotten. ..and right now they have a difficult time .... maybe they need help too ... within the law of course .. to strengthen measures not to neutralize migration ... introduce taxes ... so that they pay according to the law ... tightly control law enforcement agencies and business.....

            Previously, it was one people - the Soviet people, while the traitors, mouthpieces of capitalism did not divide us all.
            Laws, you say, help redo? Heh. Yes, you need to redo your laws first. Eradicate the power of the dough. And it is better to return the socialist, Stalinist laws.
            1. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 1 October 2013 13: 37 New
              +1
              Which Jewish people present here will name at least one bad law from the Stalin era? There are no such laws! All fair !!!
          12. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 1 October 2013 12: 31 New
            -2
            LONG DREAM !!! WHAT THE LAW WORKS !!! And the Deputy Chairman of the Hebrew "MK" MUZHOBAYEVA, WISH, THAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR HEAD X .. GROWED HOW TO REMOVE YOUR HAT !!!
        4. Committee
          Committee 30 September 2013 18: 45 New
          +8
          A thousand pluses to you, I myself wanted to write about gerberas - mukhaydarovyh More indignant mold!
        5. ser86
          ser86 1 October 2013 04: 56 New
          0
          if you do not give rebuff, kill
          if degenerate - poison drugs
          if you are too lazy to work, they work for you

          Do they force it?
          1. Midshipman
            Midshipman 1 October 2013 10: 06 New
            +3
            Is your wife or daughter able to fight back a stoned bastard? With regard to drugs, 90% are people who have stumbled, to whom such illegal immigrants drug traffickers put up a leg and ruined lives for their own gain. This is not a crime in your opinion? Or a crime can only be when using violence? The article just writes that they rebuffed lawlessness, what are you dissatisfied with? Contempt for the customs of the country in which you live is also a crime, and although it is not spelled out in the criminal code, this does not mean that you do not need to be punished.
          2. Gur
            Gur 1 October 2013 10: 15 New
            0
            Just like two of the casket the same from the face, soon so what soon there already!
            If you drink and don’t love your wife, we will love you, we are a coward and we don’t want to serve in the army, and we don’t need to have you any easier. We don’t make children read and think, we, too, should be stupid.
        6. domokl
          domokl 1 October 2013 06: 03 New
          +1
          Quote: Heccrbq .2
          They kill us, poison us, occupy our jobs, and we must "overdo it."

          I read your koment and understood why our men, returning home from the garage late in the evening, always take knives with them. And not for show off, they really will use them. There have already been cases.
          There is such an impression that the state specifically encourages such organizations. What is Stopham worth, for example. Damage to someone else's property for the sake of the law? It turns out that the law can and should be forced to comply, even breaking the law?
          Lawlessness, which has supposedly social orientation, is still lawlessness.
          And in the case described, I will respect just this guy who dispersed the attackers. The man defended his family.
        7. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 1 October 2013 12: 17 New
          +1
          The fact that the government is not Russia is evident not with armed glaome, all sorts of Mendel Dvarkovich Gref Chubais and their proteges in all legislative and power structures !!! The Jewishionists occupied RUSSIA, which failed in 17g. a Trotsky Jew with a Lenin Jew, succeeded in their protege, the traitor of the Unified Church and who was tagged who, also boasts of it !!! But the non-state authorities put arrogant monuments into them and the libraries call them names, thereby emphasizing their belonging to the occupation and the Jewish Zionist conspiracy against RUSSIA !!! Why is the Central Bank not subordinate to the Russian Federation, why the bowels do not belong to the state, why there are no words in the Constitution about the Russian people, about the people forming the state, why the laws of RUSSIA obey someone’s full-time laws, such as same-sex marriage? !!! They wrote dictated srash, and we in the heat of "freedom" waved !!! It's time to correct the mistakes !!! Drive out of power, through the court, the whole rotten top !!! Enough to endure !!!
      2. arutun
        arutun 30 September 2013 18: 15 New
        15
        The best option is if they get together, surround the hostel so that no one leaves, they call the FMS, OMON and the press, and publicly check all the documents.
        But in such a way it is against the law to break doors and crowds with a crowd, imagine that you are sleeping in a hostel, and a crowd of masks breaks into you. Your actions?. And if you also have a weapon? There is not far to great blood.
        While local officials, business and the police will make money on these "tour dealers", they will come.
        1. Beon
          Beon 30 September 2013 19: 19 New
          +6
          The best option is if they get together, surround the hostel so that no one leaves, they call the FMS, OMON and the press, and publicly check all the documents

          "A young man, a native of Dagestan, fired several shots. We saw a woman with a bloodied head. I dragged her behind an ambulance. Police officers were inactive," said Narcostop coordinator Alexei Zaitsev.

          But what if the structures you listed do not come or come, but I will take measures against social activists? By the way, I won’t be surprised.
          1. tomas.09
            tomas.09 30 September 2013 20: 23 New
            +2
            Yes, so it will be !!!
            1. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 1 October 2013 13: 45 New
              0
              You need to check this option! And that would be control over the work of these services !!!
        2. domokl
          domokl 1 October 2013 06: 08 New
          0
          Quote: arutun
          The best option is if they get together, surround the hostel so that no one leaves, they call the FMS, OMON and the press, and publicly check all the documents.

          And you don’t see a violation of the laws here? So, it’s just that we, the citizens decided and did ... But what prevents then from doing the same thing to you personally? Just because you don’t like someone’s face?
          Do you really think that the FMS does not know about this hostel? Yes, they know and regularly carry out a plan for catching migrants at this place. And wallets replenish (note your own) in the same place. And if you don’t know, then you need to disperse such an organization, together with the police and others security forces ...
          1. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 1 October 2013 13: 53 New
            0
            You have to poke these services in the face in order to work! And the guys are doing the right thing by attracting attention !!! And the passport service, which populated them for money, instead of those in need of emergency housing, HANG on Red Square like fascists !!!
        3. Midshipman
          Midshipman 1 October 2013 10: 14 New
          +1
          What does the law have to do with it? These actions are simply a gesture of despair just because of idiotic or not working laws. The government is obliged to revise and enforce the law in the interests of decent, decent people, raising sons to protect the country paying taxes, and not rabble drug dealers and their patrons. While the authorities have not made this moral right to demand the enforcement of their laws, it does not have.
          1. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 1 October 2013 13: 58 New
            0
            AND IN THE AUTHORITY OF THE JEWISH TRADERS, THESE SUCH LAWS, WITH THEIR SUBMISSION, THEM ARE SIMILAR TO THEM !!!
      3. Andrey from Tver
        Andrey from Tver 30 September 2013 18: 17 New
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        Quote: Alexej
        The main thing is not to overdo it, otherwise they will not differ from skins.

        So you don’t just have to get hung up on migrants. Still, one should not forget about the authorities, who let the hell out of the country and understand who they are, and about the merchants who carry them, and about the police who do not see them.
      4. MG42
        MG42 30 September 2013 18: 32 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexej
        The main thing is not to overdo it, otherwise they will not differ from skins

        So after watching the video, who was masked there? in the ranks of activists of 2 organizations and arrows are transferred to each other .. bully
        It’s necessary to clean up the whole question of methods, because only flowers still started shooting from a gun ..
        As for the "spice" in our Ukraine, they were sold legally in stalls some time ago, and the cops were roofing this business ..
      5. rumpeljschtizhen
        rumpeljschtizhen 30 September 2013 20: 33 New
        +2
        you don’t overdo it here otherwise they don’t understand
      6. ser86
        ser86 1 October 2013 04: 53 New
        +3
        these are skins
    2. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 30 September 2013 17: 29 New
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      the younger generation decided to start solving those problems that power cannot solve. With such youth, not everything is lost with us ..

      At the same time, having received a rebuff, the non-serving and morally unstable youth ran into the bushes. Is it a pogrom? A household hooligan. A pogrom is when the defenders are thrown out the windows, the building is set on fire from four corners, police cars turn over, the police run themselves away, not remembering the weapons selected by the pogromists .
    3. bodriy
      bodriy 30 September 2013 17: 34 New
      +8
      And what does the state’s power chosen by the people want ... it’s already been boiling for a long time! The visa regime ... where is it?! And you are talking about youth, I support!
      1. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 30 September 2013 17: 45 New
        +6
        And what does the state’s power chosen by the people want ... it’s already been boiling for a long time! The visa regime ... where is it?! And you are talking about youth, I support!



        Massively mowing down from the army, in peacetime, young people who smoke not only tobacco, pouring beer into balls cannot stand up for themselves, nor for their women and children. The hooligan in Kapotnya is a vivid convex example.
      2. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 1 October 2013 14: 03 New
        0
        Ostensibly the people chosen ... !!!
    4. avt
      avt 30 September 2013 17: 53 New
      +4
      Quote: biglow
      the younger generation decided to start solving those problems that power cannot solve.

      Frankly speaking, I doubted it somehow. The watch-house in Kapotnya is a well-known place, well, maybe it didn’t sound like Cherkizon in Russia, but the hangout from the 90s was and is specific to Muscovites too. And this is how it all comes in , I am convinced by the thought that I can’t get away from it and I can’t shrug it off - someone from the “business entities” didn’t share something, or refused to send a share and the guys used to go to the dark, from which they met them in a less organized manner and and they didn’t take anyone except a woman who was slightly wounded and a dozen illegal immigrants. Well, since there were guys under the drug control roof besides ,, Shield ", my thought only strengthens me. Well, if there’s no nationalistic the article is not for excess, a hooligan, or an expatriate eviction of illegal immigrants to their historical homeland, and how completely from the realm of fiction they will punish some kind of “responsible comrade” from the administration, so the thought is thought right in the head. That's somehow, not very optimistic .
      1. Beon
        Beon 30 September 2013 19: 31 New
        +5
        someone from the "business entities" didn’t share something, or refused to send a share and the guys were used in the dark

        It may be in the dark, but the fact that the guys started their asses from computers to tear off an indicator all the same.
    5. Alez
      Alez 30 September 2013 18: 53 New
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      After the shootout, police detained nearly 60 illegal immigrants. The question is, where have you been before?
      Previously, they were roofed, money was counted, not up to direct official duties. Eh, Rasea, until something happens, the government is inactive.
    6. waisson
      waisson 30 September 2013 19: 00 New
      +4
      I fully agree with you good authorities can not cope with migrants who create lawlessness hit them angry
      1. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 30 September 2013 20: 49 New
        12
        More likely - DOES NOT WANT to cope with migrants, someone at the top is probably profitable to escalate tension in Russia to rock the country. NOT scammers, so in the wake of conflicts with migrants.
        1. Letterksi
          Letterksi 30 September 2013 22: 36 New
          +4
          Yes, the authorities in Russia resolve all issues in favor of anyone but the Russians. This plunges the country into chaos. A common thing for history. When the majority understands where the legs are growing, then everything will begin to change for the better.
        2. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 1 October 2013 14: 07 New
          0
          WHO AUTHORITY ???
    7. Imigrantt
      Imigrantt 30 September 2013 22: 40 New
      +1
      fellow I agree completely !! We just need to introduce the study of the Stalypins reforms in schools !!! Then it will be good at all)))))))))))) hi
      1. AlNikolaich
        AlNikolaich 30 September 2013 22: 58 New
        -1
        Quote: Imigrantt
        We just need to introduce the study of the Stalypins reforms in schools !!! Then, in general, it will be good)))))))))))

        -This would understand how to not do it? I already wrote that I live where the character you designated governed. And it is still perceived as a reactionary tyrant and killer!
    8. DuraLexSedLex.
      DuraLexSedLex. 1 October 2013 11: 00 New
      0
      At such times, the people themselves are trying to do something, seeing that the authorities patronize the prevalence of criminality, drug abuse and the spread of separatist movements among migrants, despair is born ... anger is behind him. Well, and then everyone knows, "Russian rebellion is senseless and merciless."
  2. Pharao7766
    Pharao7766 30 September 2013 17: 00 New
    33
    It’s somehow strange ... people get a signal from the local authorities about illegal immigrants (who apparently got everyone in Kapotnya), they come - they are met by superior forces in the hostel, and then shooting from the windows is the norm, and knocking out the doors is ah I yay !
    And tired of hearing about the detained crumbs when their MILLIONS!
  3. andrei332809
    andrei332809 30 September 2013 17: 01 New
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    In Kapotnya they were looking for aliens — illegal migrants. It all ended in a banal pogrom. Guys in masks and balaclava beat out the door of the hostel with a ram.

    law enforcers should do this. and if the bosses in uniform do not fulfill the function of protecting the people of their cities, then there is nothing to be surprised that people solve their security problems themselves.
    1. Djozz
      Djozz 30 September 2013 17: 20 New
      +9
      We need to check the costs of local policemen, I’m sure a lot of interesting things will come up!
    2. Gennady1973
      Gennady1973 30 September 2013 17: 24 New
      12
      "law enforcement" they are engaged once a month will come from the "duster" bribe took and left. Here and all the work. And about the visitors, they wanted independence? They fed Russia? etc. what the hell in this beloved Russia forgot?! Live at home.
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 30 September 2013 18: 00 New
        0
        Quote: Gennady1973
        And as for the visitors, they wanted independence

        At that time, the Presidents of these countries were in Pushcha ... smile it seems there were only Slavs ...
        Quote: Gennady1973
        fed Russia

        never except Ukrainians seem, no one said that. during the USSR except the 2 republics of Russia and Azerbaijan, all were subsidized .....
        1. revnagan
          revnagan 30 September 2013 18: 21 New
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          Quote: smersh70
          during the USSR, except for 2 republics of Russia and Azerbaijan, all were subsidized .....

          It’s a very controversial statement. For some reason, it hurt, and I just typed in Google’s search engine “subsidized republics of the Soviet Union.” There were a lot of links, excerpts below. Someone who’s interested can also type. And, by the way, it was easy They give oxygen, stomach and nutrients, the heart pumps it all, someone produces hormones, someone produces antibodies ... So you don’t have to sing war songs.

          I remembered: back in 1973 in Baku, a relative of the author of these lines said that
          when placing her son at work, she was asked: "Do you know that this place is for sale?" She replied adequately: "I know this place is being bought."

          In the same year in Kirovabad (western Azerbaijan), I accidentally heard a song that some seventh-graders sang in the yard of a nearby school: “My name is Mirza, I can’t work. Let Ivan work and fulfill the plan ”...
          1. smersh70
            smersh70 30 September 2013 20: 59 New
            +2
            Quote: revnagan
            A highly controversial statement.


            but why go for a walk - look at the budget of all the republics .. they are everywhere. only these 2 republics have a surplus until 1990 .....
            Quote: revnagan
            when placing her son at work, she was asked: "Do you know that this place is for sale?" She replied adequately: "I know this place is being bought."

            Yes, this and the chas are everywhere - even with you - it seemed yesterday in Izvestia that the post of police chief of one of the Moscow districts is being sold for a million (but not rubles laughing

            Quote: revnagan
            In the same year in Kirovabad (western Azerbaijan)


            I myself live from there and studied at one of the largest Russian schools number 4 --- what can I say --- I have never heard such a thing ... an empty market !!!!!!!!!!!!
            1. ia-ai00
              ia-ai00 30 September 2013 22: 30 New
              +5
              Yes, even in Kazakhstan, Kazakhs guys sang this song, it’s also obvious that Mirza can’t work, let Ivan work.
          2. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 1 October 2013 14: 18 New
            +1
            When I was serving in the Soviet Army in 68, as part of the guard, they took the equipment to the military factory in Baku, and so, already then there were only Azerbaijanis in the commanders, probably they were all seven spans in the forehead, since the equipment was rocket!
        2. Zymran
          Zymran 30 September 2013 23: 06 New
          +1
          Quote: smersh70
          republics of Russia and Azerbaijan were all subsidized .....


          Kazakhstan was not a subsidized republic.
        3. 225chay
          225chay 1 October 2013 06: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: smersh70
          At that time, the Presidents of these countries were in Pushcha ... it seems only Slavs were there ......

          There were only "God-chosen ..."
  4. Kerch
    Kerch 30 September 2013 17: 04 New
    -5
    So what have these "people's avengers" achieved? They showed them in the news, shouted at the migrants. For me, a masquerade ...
  5. Garrin
    Garrin 30 September 2013 17: 05 New
    22
    The boys have more will and determination than those in power. And the cops are corrupt - on the sidelines, and in fact, they don’t move when they break their skulls. Salvage is more expensive am
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 30 September 2013 17: 33 New
      0
      The boys have more will and determination than those in power. And the cops are corrupt - on the sidelines, and in fact, they don’t move when they break their skulls. Salvage is more expensive


      What will and decisiveness? At the first shots from a traumatic fart and a flashing knife, they scattered like mice.
      1. rereture
        rereture 30 September 2013 18: 02 New
        +2
        Do you want corpses?
        1. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 30 September 2013 18: 06 New
          +9
          Do you want corpses?




          My Wishlist is of little interest to anyone. And this is normal. He who wants to create a situation where one group of the population wants to at least cause moderate bodily harm to a group of visitors wants to kill corpses.
          1. Committee
            Committee 30 September 2013 18: 48 New
            +2
            So let them sit at home and do not go with weapons to us. And while this continues, discontent will grow steadily.
            1. gunnerminer
              gunnerminer 30 September 2013 19: 05 New
              +2
              So let them sit at home and do not go with weapons to us. And while this continues, discontent will grow steadily.




              Twenty years growing and growing.
              1. Beon
                Beon 30 September 2013 19: 47 New
                +1
                Twenty years growing and growing

                So it will be like with a tree, the longer it grows, the higher it will grow.
            2. alone
              alone 30 September 2013 19: 23 New
              +8
              and what prevents the Russian government and the state as a whole from preventing migrants from entering the country? Is it difficult to establish a strict visa regime and restore order at border posts? First of all, ask questions regarding migrants to those who deal with this problem in Russia. But pogroms and killings cannot solve the problem. In this, the problem of migrants has expanded to such a position, the authorities are to blame.
              1. gunnerminer
                gunnerminer 30 September 2013 19: 55 New
                +5
                and what prevents the Russian government and the state as a whole from preventing migrants from entering the country? Is it difficult to establish a strict visa regime and restore order at border posts? First of all, ask questions regarding migrants to those who deal with this problem in Russia. But pogroms and killings cannot solve the problem. In this, the problem of migrants has expanded to such a position, the authorities are to blame.



                It was on behalf of the authorities that created such an atmosphere. Pogroms are consequences and will only complicate the situation. Order can be put in place without pogroms, there are enough examples in world practice. For example, in Saudi Arabia, the United Emirates. There are many migrants, but somehow they do without pogroms.
              2. SASCHAmIXEEW
                SASCHAmIXEEW 1 October 2013 14: 33 New
                0
                100% of the power is responsible and not only for this, look more widely, who are living with this power, obviously not Russians! Russian, as always in poverty! So the power must be changed !!! Whoever we choose will rule! Now the Jewish group is in power! It must be re-elected through the court and the zone with confiscation and expulsion from RUSSIA forever
          2. ia-ai00
            ia-ai00 30 September 2013 22: 34 New
            +4
            I think that “one group of the population” wants to live quietly on HIS EARTH, wants the “other” to clean themselves.
    2. MG42
      MG42 30 September 2013 18: 36 New
      +5
      Quote: Garrin
      And the cops are corrupt - on the sidelines, and in fact, they don’t move when they break their skulls. Salvage is more expensive

      This problem is not only in Russia, by the way, we have cops with cops .. wink
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 30 September 2013 21: 12 New
        +1
        Quote: MG42
        This problem is not only in Russia, by the way, we have cops with cops .. wink

        It's a shame of course, but the joke was a success.
      2. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 30 September 2013 22: 37 New
        +1
        It’s not for you for long, everything is necessary, as in GIROPE, you will have poly-Tseysky.
      3. Alibekulu
        Alibekulu 30 September 2013 23: 11 New
        -1
        Quote: ia-ai00
        Yes, even in Kazakhstan, Kazakhs guys sang this song, I also like it, that Mirza can’t work, let .. Ivan works.
        Well, Kazakhstan and Kazakhs cannot but kick ... fool laughing
        On this occasion, Freud somehow, not without a sense of humor, wrote an unusual recipe: “Man. Take 3 once a day. Inside. "
        Quote: ia-ai00
        I think that “one group of the population” wants to live quietly on HIS EARTH, wants the “other” to clean themselves.
        I absolutely agree, but with some clarifications. To, chauvinists like ia-ai00at every opportunity to "water shit" my homeland, CLEAN UP BY YOURSELFso that those Kazakhs, Russians and other nationalities who consider Kazakhstan their Homeland, those wants to live quietly on their LAND lived without her (their) constant "vyser" in our direction ..
  6. amp
    amp 30 September 2013 17: 07 New
    +3
    Registration is time to enter.
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 30 September 2013 17: 49 New
      15
      Registration is time to enter.




      Cx! They scared a hedgehog with a bare hand. They buy a residence permit together with a passport desk. The passport and visa service in Gukovsky district of the Rostov region issued about 12 thousand passports for Mujahideen from Arab countries to ensure their free movement in the North Caucasus.
      1. Committee
        Committee 30 September 2013 18: 50 New
        +3
        Yeah, for sure! In general, the inviolability of borders (from all encroachments) seems to be the concern of the FSB?
    2. Sergey_K
      Sergey_K 1 October 2013 01: 36 New
      +1
      and to whom do you create obstacles besides a young specialist?
  7. Walking
    Walking 30 September 2013 17: 15 New
    +8
    When the authorities cannot or do not want to put things in order, the population has to decide for themselves.
    1. old man54
      old man54 30 September 2013 17: 45 New
      +6
      Quote: Hiking
      When the authorities cannot or do not want to put things in order .

      Then the population, namely the population, if it wasn’t already, it is necessary to change the power and all those who have stuck to this power today! Is it really not clear then?
  8. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 30 September 2013 17: 16 New
    10
    It’s not the “bells” but the “bells” that are beating for our authorities ... "Do something .. !!!" or people will take pitchfork ..
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 30 September 2013 17: 27 New
      +4
      This is what the authorities are seeking, the next step will be the introduction of a state of emergency, and that’s all. If a crisis starts and a disgruntled population takes to the street, here you can apply all the measures permitted by the state of emergency, which measures I think do not need to be explained.
      1. Committee
        Committee 30 September 2013 18: 52 New
        +1
        What `s next? Who will provide it, is it an emergency? UN peacekeeping force? Are the black negatives on the sand Hammers coming to pacify us?
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 30 September 2013 21: 17 New
          +3
          Quote: Committee
          What `s next? Who will provide it, is it an emergency? UN peacekeeping force? Are the black negatives on the sand Hammers coming to pacify us?

          Most likely they will go in a proven way, try to lead.
          1. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 1 October 2013 14: 43 New
            +1
            This is most likely! But the Jewish-Zionists must be abdicated from power in RUSSIA FOREVER !!!
      2. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 1 October 2013 14: 40 New
        +1
        Do not scare the hedgehog, the naked ... one, not everyone in the army would shoot at their mothers! And the army is also tired of the nouveau riche!
  9. Djozz
    Djozz 30 September 2013 17: 22 New
    +9
    And Gerber noted that the old woman wasn’t sitting, she hadn’t heard about the Holocaust for a long time!
    1. Committee
      Committee 30 September 2013 18: 53 New
      +3
      And I’ve already gathered it from everyone, but here is such a “gift”!
  10. kosopooz77
    kosopooz77 30 September 2013 17: 23 New
    +5
    Quote: biglow
    the younger generation decided to start solving those problems that power cannot solve. With such youth, not everything is lost with us .. good

    Indeed, the fact that the young guys don’t give a damn about what is happening in the country gives us hope. Citizens are getting more active in those areas where government agencies only create the appearance of work. And here is not only the fight against illegal migration, but also against drug dealers, pedophiles, road boors, etc. It depresses the position of the authorities, who behave like a dog in the manger, we won’t do anything ourselves, but you don’t climb into the ranks with the pork snout
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 30 September 2013 18: 02 New
      -2
      Quote: kosopooz77
      young guys

      By the way, these young guys take the thief for normal work! If you say that it was in the evening, then the normal hard worker at this time is already resting in a bottle of beer in his hands and watching football ....
      1. Committee
        Committee 30 September 2013 18: 55 New
        +7
        Well, excuse me, a bottle of beer and football is not a “normal” hard worker, but simply who does not need anything except beer and a zombie!
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 30 September 2013 21: 01 New
          +1
          Quote: Committee
          this is not a "normal" hard worker, but simply

          then you can advise what the normal hard worker does in the evening laughing
          1. consul
            consul 1 October 2013 00: 36 New
            +2
            Quote: smersh70
            what makes a normal hard worker in the evening

            It works because one job is not enough and comes when everyone at home is sleeping, and in the morning, while everyone is sleeping, she goes back to work. At least I had it until I left for the village, now I can see at least the children.
          2. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 1 October 2013 14: 48 New
            0
            A normal hard worker is engaged in the family, so that the scum would not grow up, well, in his free time from this, Zenit and SKA! Peter go ahead !!!
  11. Zymran
    Zymran 30 September 2013 17: 35 New
    0
    Heroes are against Gaster, and they are afraid of springing against Caucasians.
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 30 September 2013 17: 49 New
      0
      Heroes are against Gaster, and they are afraid of springing against Caucasians.




      Yes, dear. The knife flashed and everyone fled.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 30 September 2013 18: 28 New
        +5
        A lot of information does not go through the media, so about the fact that you’re squeezing the tail at the sight of Caucasians in vain, I personally know many examples when the highlanders were put in place and good people were bought.
      2. Garrin
        Garrin 30 September 2013 19: 49 New
        11
        Quote: gunnerminer
        Yes, dear. The knife flashed and everyone fled.

        Why are they with knives and injuries, and ours with bare hands? And can level the chances, for a start, and then to argue with whom the tail vibrates?
        Your cockerels are therefore cocked, because they know that in any situation, the diaspora will turn it off with grandmas. Or maybe this is the time to level the chances?
        1. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 30 September 2013 20: 18 New
          +5
          Your cockerels are therefore cocked, because they know that in any situation, the diaspora will turn it off with grandmas. Or maybe this is the time to level the chances?




          Yes, the Diaspora has a serious administrative and financial resource. Why are responsible officials and law enforcement officers mutually beneficial to cooperate with the Diaspora? Here in Piterkala they fired on the bar from injuries, they didn’t detain anyone. It was only necessary for the nationalist group to speak out, their leaders were quickly beaten and arrested. Whose side is the district police officer, PPSnik, head of the internal affairs department, inquiry officer, investigator, prosecutor, deputy? Who will equalize?
          1. Garrin
            Garrin 30 September 2013 20: 41 New
            +6
            Quote: gunnerminer
            ATS, interrogator, investigator, prosecutor, deputy? Who will equalize?

            Believe me. Equalize. And this is a question of the near future. A handful of officials are not the Russian people, and this handful will be rewarded according to their deeds.
            1. gunnerminer
              gunnerminer 30 September 2013 21: 00 New
              +3
              Believe me. Equalize. And this is a question of the near future. A handful of officials are not the Russian people, and this handful will be rewarded according to their deeds.




              They write and talk about this for about 15 years. They promise to start in the near future. Officials are not a handful, but several million people with connections, finances, and administrative capabilities.
    2. Alibekulu
      Alibekulu 30 September 2013 19: 19 New
      +5
      Quote: Zymran
      Heroes are against Gaster, and they are afraid of springing against Caucasians.
      They have such a theme - the Caucasians are bumbling around, and Tajiks and Uzbeks get into it .. repeat More or less tightly communicated with Tajiks, so they try, as a rule, not to stick out once again. But, anyway, they have to "be responsible for that guy."
      By the way, even Zhirik himself once said that they are quiet and have no complaints about them.
      1. avt
        avt 30 September 2013 19: 34 New
        +6
        Quote: Alibekulu
        They have such a theme - the Caucasians are bumbling around, and Tajiks and Uzbeks get into it ..

        In Moscow, I’ll say this, about ten years ago it was imperceptible, but now it’s real that they started so many, for example, in Krasnoselskaya the Uzbeks and Tajiks stabbed them for a place and it was no longer exotic when in the outskirts, where at night drunken sesurity from the owners’ greed for a penny on They guarded the goods for 15 days on a rotational basis, specific Tajik “detachments” flew into the warehouses — goods were taken out without particularly harsh bodily goods, perhaps by conspiracy. They really twisted them quickly. But now they come across heavy and especially difficult articles, it’s not uncommon.
  12. IRBIS
    IRBIS 30 September 2013 17: 38 New
    30
    "... from the second floor they shot from a hunting rifle."

    Next time, this dormitory will simply be set on fire by previously locking the doors. Our dear power will play in immigration policy. We do not have France, no one will look at the debauch of the “guests” from the south for a long time - they will simply be felled in batches, drowned like scaly cats and hung like mad dogs. And the police will turn up - and they will receive. Well, why take people to extremes? Well, why the hell do Russia need these "workers"? If this is the price for different unions and other associations there, then I, as a citizen of my country, do not need them in FIG! Let them clean up their "... camps", let them multiply and shit themselves!
    1. MG42
      MG42 30 September 2013 18: 43 New
      +3
      Quote: IRBIS
      Well, why the hell do Russia need these "workers"?

      As long as there is a demand for cheap slave labor, there will be an offer in the form of illegal immigrants ..
      Make a Muscovite work half-time as a janitor. It is necessary to solve the problem with employers, especially in the construction business and in the markets, mercilessly fine for illegal immigrants to make it unprofitable to hire them ..
      1. COBOK
        COBOK 30 September 2013 21: 16 New
        +1
        But before the Ukrainians worked. were there such problems? no
  13. kostik1301
    kostik1301 30 September 2013 17: 40 New
    12
    Shame on the current AUTHORITIES for inaction ....
  14. erased
    erased 30 September 2013 17: 40 New
    14
    Of course, the guys from the drug addict are sorted out a little, but they are trying to do at least something. Where is the power? They consider loot and buy houses over the hill. After all, such actions are an echo of Kondopoga and Pugachev. And this is just the beginning. Soon the Russian dominance of strangers will reach above the roof. Only on whose side will the police and the authorities speak? As if the Russians did not begin to shoot.
  15. Sergey47
    Sergey47 30 September 2013 17: 45 New
    14
    When the Russian people take up the pitchfork, then the land has already come. It is especially pleasing that our youth is still adequate. Over time, experience will come and the tactics will be worked out, and the authorities should understand that it, too, will have an edge if they don’t harness the process of purification from corruption. And do not frighten, hypocrites, such as these are fascist elements. This is just the healthiest part of society, understanding what the invasion of "filthy" will lead to.
  16. ilichstar
    ilichstar 30 September 2013 17: 47 New
    +2
    how much courage you need to attack the frightened hungry rabotyag !!!!!! if they attacked Caucasians in Gelendvagen in Moscow and danced Lezgins in the Red Square, it would be an act, as well ..... a pun.
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 30 September 2013 17: 58 New
      +3
      how much courage you need to attack the frightened hungry rabotyag !!!!!! if they attacked Caucasians in Gelendvagen in Moscow and danced Lezgins in the Red Square, it would be an act, as well ..... a pun.



      You are right. From Gelendvagen, a dzhigit, with a certificate of the North Caucasian law enforcement agency, will plant an attacker from the gilded Stechkin in the forehead, then he will hand over the described carcass to the Moscow police to draw up the protocol.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 30 September 2013 18: 23 New
        +9
        Various illegal movements are gaining strength, I think and get to horsemen from Gelendvagen.
        1. ilichstar
          ilichstar 30 September 2013 18: 46 New
          +2
          won't get there! since 91st these movements pretend that they are gaining strength! beat the janitors the maximum they can do!
          1. tomas.09
            tomas.09 30 September 2013 20: 37 New
            +4
            Because, then criminal cases are brought up against these Russian guys, Caucasians threaten their family, therefore nat. movements in Russia are very accurate, because they know who the authorities stand up for in case of kipish !!!
      2. Beon
        Beon 30 September 2013 20: 07 New
        +3
        with a certificate of the North Caucasian law enforcement agency

        In Russia, I think there should be only Russian law enforcement agencies (something is wrong in our "Danish kingdom"). And what kind of republics are these within the state with their own bodies, ministries, etc. .. It’s probably time to change the constitution.
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 30 September 2013 18: 25 New
      +5
      These hungry guys earn legally and illegally more than many of us, I know this contingent, they "mow" under the poor fellow correctly, and normal money "charges" home.
      1. ilichstar
        ilichstar 30 September 2013 18: 45 New
        -3
        and who's stopping you from working?
  17. Severok
    Severok 30 September 2013 17: 49 New
    +1
    And what else to do if the "show-off" stupidly roof such hostels? If drug traffickers go to jail only when they either haven’t shared it, or people are bored ???
  18. Hauptam
    Hauptam 30 September 2013 18: 02 New
    +6
    Stalin must be read, the national question is a serious matter. Migrants as well as corruption are inscribed (by the invaders) in the political system of the state. Sovereignty is needed first. With his acquisition, many problems will be solved in favor of the Russian people. Well, the police must be brought under the laws of "wartime"
  19. RUSS
    RUSS 30 September 2013 18: 21 New
    +9
    I'm afraid I'm wrong, but these are just flowers ... and soon there will be berries.
    Classic- "The top can not, but the lower classes do not want."
  20. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 30 September 2013 18: 27 New
    +6
    Quote: Sergey47
    When the Russian people take up the pitchfork, then the land has already come. It is especially pleasing that our youth is still adequate. Over time, experience will come and the tactics will be worked out, and the authorities should understand that it, too, will have an edge if they don’t harness the process of purification from corruption. And do not frighten, hypocrites, such as these are fascist elements. This is just the healthiest part of society, understanding what the invasion of "filthy" will lead to.

    I agree with you here! Our youth began to change for the better .. She began to understand where she was attracted by the slogans "Take everything from life and don’t think about anything .." Trying to fight the scum that has bred in Russia .. (rather than hang out at clubs and drink beer. .) Today I watched the broadcast ..two teenagers in the provincial village were detained by a pedophile (who is twice their age) the child was almost strangled 6 years ago .. they tied him up and handed over to the police (but they risked their life ...) everyone would do our place !!! Russia is spiritually recovering! and it pleases. May God disperse all the scum and help other countries with normal ...
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 1 October 2013 15: 16 New
      -1
      We must start with the Jewish Zionist scum entrenched in the top !!! And no mercy !!! GO RUSSIA!!!
  21. aud13
    aud13 30 September 2013 18: 28 New
    13
    Quote: smersh70
    and by the way, their grandfathers protected you and us from the Germans .... and in difficult times for 41 years they took hungry children from Leningrad ... Ukraine ... shared the last piece of bread with your grandfather and grandmother .. this also should not be forgotten. .

    We must remember everything.
    Tell me, dear, then we must remember how their fathers did, and they themselves probably drove the Russian-speaking from their republics, taking away their acquired property too, mocking them.
    In the middle of 90, I worked with a woman who left Uzbekistan with almost a bag of things with her family. Tell her what you wrote.
    1. Djozz
      Djozz 30 September 2013 18: 48 New
      12
      My uncle and his family were forcibly kicked out of Andijan, he was a deputy motor depot, but he had to go to his place. So, now it’s time to forget about this friendship and drive them from our land without mercy!
    2. Mom
      Mom 30 September 2013 19: 53 New
      +2
      I was 1993 years old in 11. I lived in a military garrison, already in independent Uzbekistan. I just can’t agree with you, because I have not seen Russians running from there with trunks on their backs and crowds of Aborigines running with sticks behind them. With all due respect ... I saw tear wires, I also saw the annoyance on the faces of Russians leaving for the unknown, but by no means escaped with suitcases. In general, I noticed among the Russians who left Central Asia there were panic stories about how they were cut, kicked and beaten there, this is called “PR” by the modern language. I still have Russian neighbors living in the entrance, and the doors do not close from the guests, from those and others, and when someone has health problems, all the neighbors come, they give injections, they bring and eat if they don’t see a couple of days. .. Do you even double-check the information, ask different people who have at least some kind of information ...
      1. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 30 September 2013 20: 23 New
        +5
        I was 1993 years old in 11. I lived in a military garrison, already in independent Uzbekistan.



        You lived in a garrison. The garrison is not just a settlement. You know the differences. Why did the Russians leave Uzbekistan? If everything was in order? Why did they sell or abandon the apartments and leave into the unknown? They had nothing else to do? Why did they leave, knowingly, What will have to reduce social status?
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 30 September 2013 21: 06 New
          -1
          Quote: gunnerminer
          They had nothing more to do?

          because there were no guarantees of economic survival .. and here is an example of Latvia .. they don’t even give Russian citizenship to Russia .. and the bulk of them do not go to Russia .. because they know .. a Schengen visa and space above all love for mother Russia .. .
  22. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 30 September 2013 18: 29 New
    +5
    After the shootout, police detained nearly 60 illegal immigrants. The question is, where have you been before?

    There were also. They calmly took bribes from illegal immigrants.
  23. RUSS
    RUSS 30 September 2013 18: 34 New
    -4
    Quote: Djozz
    We need to check the costs of local policemen, I’m sure a lot of interesting things will come up!

    Why do you call cops cops? Are you German?
    Name the OMON or SOBR fighter who crush bearded men in the Caucasus as policemen? Or just bold on the forum?
    If you are a military man and policemen call you a warrior, a soldier or a green man, how will you react?
    1. Djozz
      Djozz 30 September 2013 18: 51 New
      +7
      There used to be policemen and there were cops, catch the difference! And there are all kinds of OMON fighters, there are heroes, and there are policemen and remember the year 93, and everyone has seen enough of the “pearl" ensign!
    2. alone
      alone 30 September 2013 19: 28 New
      +7
      Police officers were inactive "


      that's why they are called cops. but real cops would twist both of them, so that the other would be a lesson.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 1 October 2013 08: 56 New
        0
        "And who are the judges?" You so easily understand who is bad and who is pretty?
  24. Watson J.
    Watson J. 30 September 2013 18: 39 New
    +6
    Well, if Pider Muzhdabaev ran out against, then everything was done right. If the police relied on the protection of order, they MUST become citizens for restoring order. Which they did. And the stench of this .Nida from MK only confirms that everything was right. How much blood can I suck? Well, you need to come up with such a cool design - the Russians are rushing through Russia ... and the akbars are saving. Maybe we don’t have to save us, huh? Somehow without Pider Muzhdabaevsky understand.
  25. andruha70
    andruha70 30 September 2013 18: 45 New
    0
    Zaitsev is one of the leaders of a public organization that fights against spice traffickers, because the level of illegal migration and the crime rate among illegal migration has reached its zenith.
    i don't know what is spice request but if-a public organization, wants to fight illegal migration, and just fight, and not just PR, then let them go to airports, railway stations, bus stations ... and check everyone who enters - for knowledge of the Russian language, culture of behavior, availability diplomas about the profession, etc., etc., and if something goes wrong, unfold back. as they say, purely not where they clean, but where there they do not litter ... wink
    1. MG42
      MG42 30 September 2013 18: 55 New
      +4
      Quote: andruha70
      i don't know what is spice

      1. andruha70
        andruha70 30 September 2013 22: 51 New
        +1
        Now it’s clear what spice is ... belay it is not clear another thing, this person who filmed all this is a man or .andon darned? am instead of helping others (some were trying to do it there) twist this poor fellow before the ambulance arrives, this bitch runs and takes off ... I wonder if his sister or wife were tried to be raped — would he also run around and take pictures? negative
        1. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 1 October 2013 15: 54 New
          0
          Andryusha, you're not talking about that!
      2. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 1 October 2013 15: 52 New
        0
        Well, for this a drug dealer needs to be shot !!! And the power which, it admits, must be hung up or squeezed on a needle and not give more drugs!
  26. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 30 September 2013 18: 56 New
    +2
    The question is, where have you been before?

    "Gide gide, Dengi took, the eye was covering." Something like this can answer this question.
  27. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 30 September 2013 19: 02 New
    +6
    our september, the first sales services, I myself saw a cop in the rank of major with a hippopotamus mug for the trunk of ham, cognac, sausages and a large weighty envelope made a temporary registration for a whole crowd of Caucasians, he went in and out after 10 minutes, got his own and drove off in their jeep, for them the first migrants are bread with caviar and butter
    1. Djozz
      Djozz 30 September 2013 19: 06 New
      +9
      Then one RUSS on a branch was offended that I called them police officers saying they were intolerant!
    2. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 1 October 2013 16: 01 New
      +1
      Such cops, a grenade under the wheels ... In the Far East, from this the "partisans" started ... with a search for justice !!! And we will start from the same !!!
  28. sigdoc
    sigdoc 30 September 2013 19: 02 New
    +5
    Tajik working with us as a janitor for 7-8 tons. - a bandit, and the official is the "national elite"?
    Isn’t it time to turn on the brains and understand that the cries: “They are killing us, poisoning us, occupying our jobs” were sent to the wrong address
  29. kaktus
    kaktus 30 September 2013 19: 03 New
    +3
    To defend against illegal immigrants with a public shield, it occurred to a local municipal deputy. He called for the youth to go to a hostel.
    more and more interesting ... and not far from provocations

    ] if-a public organization, wants to fight illegal migration, and just fight, and not just PR, then let them go to airports, railway stations, bus stations ... and check everyone who enters — for knowledge of the Russian language, culture of behavior, availability diplomas about the profession, etc., etc., and if something goes wrong, unfold back.

    and quarantine! in Kyrgyzstan there was already a fatal case - bubonic plague! Yes, and other infections are not a gift. These are already problems of state security.
  30. saag
    saag 30 September 2013 19: 15 New
    +1
    Next time they will come with a traumatic machine gun :-)
  31. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 30 September 2013 19: 23 New
    0
    about the fact that they poison us with drugs, so we ourselves are to blame for this, no one forcibly blows and doesn’t inject her, we ourselves are looking for what hit us in the brain, this peak came in the 90s and again our cops cover
  32. Mom
    Mom 30 September 2013 19: 27 New
    +3
    Well done ... Let's shoot, kill, pitch with a pitchfork, hang up on poles, show yourself from the "best" side, more public organizations that will climb. Do you need chaos? Let's chaos. Do not urinate Russia, but let it defend itself and adequately respond. Here is a happy outcome for all organizations and their sponsors abroad. What for all fight with Russia? Arms build up, etc. There are more of such “movements” of “organizations” and all of Russia will gnaw itself. I did not think that on such a site, I will read such discussions. The world is on the verge of the 3rd world. The GDP gathers strength for a fitting rebuff, gathering all those whom the USSR tied. You don’t have to fight Russia, Russia will ruin itself, just don’t need to stop it from doing this. It's a shame. Illegals, illegal immigrants. Yes, each post is pasted with an offer of registration to a foreign citizen. In fact, as a newcomer and directly confronted with the situation, I will tell you dear citizens of Russia, forget the word "illegal immigrants", because it is legally located in the Russian Federation, it’s not so difficult, and most of those whom you collectively call these same "illegal immigrants" in fact, they are quite legally located on the territory of the Russian Federation. Caucasians shoot Russians, and slammers get Uzbeks and Tajiks. Class. You look at yourself from the side, funny guys. One Dagestanis hit a policeman, and Galyanovo was filled with Vietnamese and other nationalities. Where is the logic dear.
    1. Sergey_K
      Sergey_K 1 October 2013 01: 43 New
      0
      PPC, heals. Ale! You are being evicted from home! What is 3 world ?? The third world with the current migration will come to your home in the form of migrants.

      No matter how scary it sounds, but perhaps war is the solution to this and many problems in the world. Already it was not once, it will be again.

      I will not say anything about GDP and its teams. I want to say neither good nor bad ...
  33. koksalek
    koksalek 30 September 2013 19: 28 New
    +4
    If official positions buy, then buy the right people some kind of permission - a couple of nonsense, a price issue and that’s it. There will be another feeder unclean on hand, although in the power of the clean there is no longer
  34. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 30 September 2013 19: 29 New
    +5
    These are the first bells. The patience of the people is coming to an end. The authorities urgently need to take measures, otherwise there will be a cord. And then it will not matter on which side the skullcap ...
  35. Estray_
    Estray_ 30 September 2013 19: 38 New
    +6
    They wrote here that we stood shoulder to shoulder during the war, I completely agree that it was so. But then we lived in a place, and now they are going to live in our place. In St. Petersburg, the ethnic composition of the staff is already changing in stores. And this is guaranteed that the Slavs will not be accepted to work at this store anymore. That's how they will gradually squeeze us out of various fields, now the service sector, then the police, the army. A cancer tumor.
  36. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 30 September 2013 19: 44 New
    +9
    Quote: Mom
    Well done ... Let's shoot, kill, pitch with a pitchfork, hang up on poles, show yourself from the "best" side, more public organizations that will climb. Do you need chaos? Let's chaos. Do not urinate Russia, but let it defend itself and adequately respond. Here is a happy outcome for all organizations and their sponsors abroad. What for all fight with Russia? Arms build up, etc. There are more of such “movements” of “organizations” and all of Russia will gnaw itself. I did not think that on such a site, I will read such discussions. The world is on the verge of the 3rd world. The GDP gathers strength for a fitting rebuff, gathering all those whom the USSR tied. You don’t have to fight Russia, Russia will ruin itself, just don’t need to stop it from doing this. It's a shame. Illegals, illegal immigrants. Yes, each post is pasted with an offer of registration to a foreign citizen. In fact, as a newcomer and directly confronted with the situation, I will tell you dear citizens of Russia, forget the word "illegal immigrants", because it is legally located in the Russian Federation, it’s not so difficult, and most of those whom you collectively call these same "illegal immigrants" in fact, they are quite legally located on the territory of the Russian Federation. Caucasians shoot Russians, and slammers get Uzbeks and Tajiks. Class. You look at yourself from the side, funny guys. One Dagestanis hit a policeman, and Galyanovo was filled with Vietnamese and other nationalities. Where is the logic dear.

    No need to be so nervous .. Dear Russia, how many "former" people will not cut and kill, and will not drive out knots with documents .. like invaders.! Behave well .. observe our laws and traditions .... and that's it! Sgin Basurman. We don’t shout like you are in your former Allah Akbar .. You expelled almost all of the Russian (Slavic) peoples .. But you again graze among the invaders .. (I want to eat and we come to give birth to children ..)) They would be silent ... if we start to remember and upload photos of memories .. (which is forbidden in our country ..) Our youth will be shocked and unpredictable .. in their actions .. Here's something I said ..
    1. Mom
      Mom 30 September 2013 20: 03 New
      +3
      I will not convince you. It seems to me that you are now confusing Chechnya of 92-93 years and Central Asia. I will not prove it. For Easter, I took Faina Sergeyevna’s neighbor to my husband’s grave, and my neighbor Aunt Alevtina was buried all over the world, because she had no one. Why convince you. Your youth gets an education over which you yourself laugh.
      1. Beon
        Beon 30 September 2013 20: 45 New
        +3
        I will not convince you. It seems to me that you are now confusing Chechnya of 92-93 years and Central Asia. I will not prove it. For Easter, I took Faina Sergeyevna’s neighbor to my husband’s grave, and my neighbor Aunt Alevtina was buried all over the world, because she had no one. Why persuade you

        Are you possibly living in Tashkent? But I met a pretty Russian girl in Russia here in 93. And she was born and lived in Karshi. In the 94th, they got married and everything would be fine, but still shudders from every noise. So that not everything went smoothly in the resettlement of Russians from Uzbekistan. In Tashkent, maybe it’s calmer.
        1. Lindon
          Lindon 1 October 2013 10: 39 New
          +2
          If you do not know why write.
          There was a war in Moldova, in Chechnya, in Tajikistan there was a war. There was no war in Uzbekistan.
    2. Mom
      Mom 30 September 2013 20: 04 New
      0
      You ask your youth who are A. Suvorov and Zhukov G.K. so they will tell you that they are some kind of artists.
    3. smersh70
      smersh70 30 September 2013 21: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Sgin Basurmane M

      Vitaliy !! well you said !!!! laughing and in another thread you said our friendship is growing stronger (under the article on Putin’s visit to Baku). So he came to say the same thing)))))))) 0
      Quote: MIKHAN
      We do not scream like you in our former "Allah Akbar"


      but they plant without question, and even with beards do not give identification cards .. and in Russia, by the way, they give out with beards ....
  37. sergey261180
    sergey261180 30 September 2013 19: 48 New
    +2
    The task of society is to learn how to deal with bad things in a civilized manner.
    Nah. Let's better understand the stupid: by hitting the brazen scoreboard with his feet.
  38. Bort radist
    Bort radist 30 September 2013 19: 55 New
    +2
    Such riots are the result of inaction of the authorities and the police. The sun rises what laws do not accept.
    And it's time to change the headlines "Migrants versus Nationalists."
  39. Venäläinen
    Venäläinen 30 September 2013 20: 18 New
    +3
    In any case, the Third World War will begin. But not between the USA, China, Russia ... But in Europe. The focus of the Third World War will probably be somewhere in France, Denmark or Germany. Why ?? ... Because now- riots and riots organized by immigrants from Africa and the Middle East, internal troops and the police are stopped with very great difficulty and by the method of concessions in favor of immigrants. Immigrants and all sorts of refugees are now beginning to more and more actively infiltrate the power structures of European countries .. .The more there are immigrants from the countries of the East, in government institutions and police departments, the sooner Europe will fall. Nationalists are wolves, and wolves are forest orderlies. But a leader is needed, without a leader, a pack of wolves turns into a herd of stupid, cowardly and ragged dogs! If the nationalists had a worthy and wise leader, they would be a very large and effective force, but so far this has not been seen! It's a pity ... it's a pity ...
    1. Letterksi
      Letterksi 30 September 2013 22: 25 New
      +1
      All nationalist leaders have been planted godlessly for the past couple of years. You are simply not in the subject, probably in Finland.

  40. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 30 September 2013 20: 27 New
    +2
    Quote: Mom
    I will not convince you. It seems to me that you are now confusing Chechnya of 92-93 years and Central Asia. I will not prove it. For Easter, I took Faina Sergeyevna’s neighbor to my husband’s grave, and my neighbor Aunt Alevtina was buried all over the world, because she had no one. Why convince you. Your youth gets an education over which you yourself laugh.

    I apologize if I offended .. I am a little emotional like you ..! I have many friends of Muslim friends, we all respect each other .. (no matter how we try to pit us ..) And young people take an example from us on social networks where they are crammed with .. nationalism .. So it's time to collect stones .. enough already. .!That's it..
  41. Tretyakov
    Tretyakov 30 September 2013 20: 54 New
    +1
    Movie in the subject! While I watched, I quit smoking five times ... Tears choke ... Children do what we adults must do.
  42. darksoul
    darksoul 30 September 2013 22: 26 New
    +2
    They called the people brought, it was inevitable ... you can’t bring these hordes here for cabbage and think that it will always be so
  43. Alexkorzun
    Alexkorzun 30 September 2013 23: 32 New
    +4
    cops-creatures get a share. young people have to do their work.
    and indignant commentators - one Cheburek, stands for his own, the second is a Zhidovka, the world-famous Russophobia. so whom, and she should be sent from the country for a long time.
  44. studentmati
    studentmati 30 September 2013 23: 45 New
    +1
    Migrants are a consequence. But it is necessary to fight with the cause. The first reason is demography. We do not want to give birth and bring up, so we get what we get. Nature does not tolerate emptiness, that’s what fills this emptiness with migrants. We will defeat and evict these, others will come in their place, stronger and much more aggressive.
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 1 October 2013 16: 17 New
      0
      The first and last reason, Jewish-Nazi fascists are in power !!! Until we deal with them, we will have what we have !!!
  45. Spike
    Spike 30 September 2013 23: 53 New
    +1
    Quote: RUSS
    Why do you call cops cops?
    And you yourself do not know why?
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 1 October 2013 09: 05 New
      +1
      No, I have no idea if there are any analogies when compared with the German police. When compared with the traitors, the policemen, there are also no analogies here. If they look like anyone in form, it’s like the cops, but essentially the same cops, and what about the policemen?
  46. VladimS
    VladimS 1 October 2013 00: 20 New
    +1
    Yes, the authorities in Russia resolve all issues in favor of anyone but the Russians. This plunges the country into chaos. A common thing for history. When the majority understands where the legs are growing, then everything will begin to change for the better.


    You look at the composition of our government and the State Duma!
    Many Russians? Units. So what will be the care of the Russian man?
    If a person of any nationality speaks about his national priorities ...
    this is normal. National identity and identity .. And all that.
    And if a RUSSIAN person says this, it’s extremism! If they don’t put him in prison, they will reproach him judgmentally and edifyingly.
    Feel the difference, what is called.
    Eh ... !!
  47. understudy
    understudy 1 October 2013 00: 36 New
    +3
    Quote: biglow
    decided to start solving those problems that power cannot solve

    Rather, DOES NOT WANT to decide the power.

    Quote: Djozz
    it's time to forget about this friendship and drive them from our land without mercy

    There is no reason not to agree precisely with such a statement of the problem! All these "unfortunate" demanded independence and received it in full. Now they, instead of putting things in order at home, are moving the crowds into "hated" Russia. What for???
    General people scream that none of the locals will work for 7-8 thousand. Yes it will not. It will not be because the STATE has taken its course and, instead of pinching ... the tail of those businessmen who set such salaries, it calls for tolerance and other crap, the results of which are clearly shown in liberal Europe.
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 1 October 2013 16: 32 New
      0
      NOT a state, but a Jewish Zionist government !!! Russians are the majority of us! Why, after a vote, are Jewish Zionists in power? How does this happen?
  48. Alikovo
    Alikovo 1 October 2013 00: 50 New
    +1
    at the top there are those who, so to speak, “patronize” Caucasians and Gaster.
  49. RUSS
    RUSS 1 October 2013 09: 00 New
    +1
    Quote: Djozz
    Then one RUSS on a branch was offended that I called them police officers saying they were intolerant!


    Offended? This is not about me, it was rather hurt by my comment, since you are complaining about it to others. And as for tolerance, I did not say that, and in general, what is tolerance for?
  50. RUSS
    RUSS 1 October 2013 09: 14 New
    0
    One who reminds me of policemen is our bailiff service, black-clad guys with rolled up sleeves who describe and take out property from underserved families who cannot pay bills due to overstated rates.