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Russian fighters in Lida - a nightmare administration Komorowski

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The first to wake up from this dream was Marek Butko, the former first secretary of the Polish embassy in Belarus. However, his statements about an immediate threat to Poland’s national security more closely resembled the cry of a passenger who was late for the train. Indeed, the train has left. The decision to deploy the Russian military aviation in the north-west of the Belarusian territory adopted. After the fight, they don’t wave their fists.


Russian fighters in Lida - a nightmare administration Komorowski


Interestingly, in Poland itself, at least someone understands what “contribution” Warsaw made to Russian fighters to appear at the Polish borders. Nobody really predicted that Poland’s participation in the creation of European missile defense, the deployment of American F-16 aircraft on its territory, and the unprecedented build-up of its own military power would trigger reciprocal steps from the Union State of Belarus and Russia. Both in Minsk and in Moscow at the same time they came to the conclusion that it is necessary to unite the interests of states in the political sphere as well as in the sphere of military security. Therefore, the deployment of the Russian aviation military unit in Belarus is an adequate response to the increasing NATO military activity in Poland and the Baltic countries, as well as a completely logical step in the development of the Unified Regional Air Defense System, the creation agreement of which was signed in February 2009.

The EPC for Air Defense allows creating conditions for increasing the reliability of the protection and defense of the western borders of the Union State, as well as the quality of control over compliance with the rules for using the airspace of Belarus and Russia in the region. Forces and means of air defense will be applied according to a single plan and plan. The agreement also provides for equipping troops and forces of the air defense system of anti-aircraft defense with armament and military equipment on the basis of a common military-technical policy, to develop uniform requirements for their combat readiness and training, organization of operational and combat training. In the period of danger and in time of war, part of the forces and means of EPC air defense will be used as part of the regional grouping of troops (forces) of Belarus and Russia.

The EPC air defense assigned several tasks. This is not only the control and protection of the external border of the Union State in the airspace, but also, in particular, the application of appropriate actions against aircraft that fly in violation of established rules. Possible and suppression of such flights. Also among the tasks of the system is to assist aircraft in the event of force majeure situations. The agreement also provides for joint training of specialists in universities of the two countries.

At present, the Air Defense Forces and Air Defense Forces and Air Defense Forces of Belarus, the air defense of two associations of the Russian Air Force, as well as part of the Baltic forces fleet.

However, in practice, the process of EPC air defense operation is not always as smooth as we would like. In particular, the withdrawal of Su-27 fighters from the air force and air defense forces of Belarus, which have developed their own flight resources, led to a certain decrease in the effectiveness of solving airborne security tasks. Under these conditions, decisions were made that would not only compensate for the losses, but also increase the combat potential of the EPC. First of all, it has begun the process of staffing the Air Force and Air Defense Forces of Belarus with new modern weapons and the modernization of the existing ones. In addition, for the combat duty in the airspace will be involved fighter aircraft of Russia.

In 2013, these plans received a new impetus for implementation. During the April meeting of the ministers of defense of Russia and Belarus, a decision was made to strengthen the Belarusian component of the EPC air defense. It implies the deployment of the Russian Fighter Aviation Regiment in Belarus. At the first stage, it is planned to set up a link of Russian fighters for combat duty and to create an aviation commandant's office. The next step will be the redeployment of a Russian aviation military unit to Belarus. It is noteworthy that modern Russian fighter planes SU-27SMZ, which are a modern aviation strike complex, will be in service with the Russian air regiment. In parallel with this, the Russian side will transfer four C-300 divisions on preferential terms.

The delivery to the arsenal of the Belarusian military units of the Tor-M2 air defense system continues. Two batteries have already replenished the fleet of weapons and military equipment of the 120-th zrbr of the Western operational-tactical command. The third battery should arrive before the end of the current year. These activities, carried out within the framework of the implementation of the joint program for the development of the ERA air defense system, are aimed at ensuring reliable and guaranteed protection of the borders of the Union State in airspace. In addition, all the nuances of the functioning of the EPC air defense system were recently worked out at operational and combat training events, including during joint maneuvers "West-2009" and "Union-2011 Shield", as well as the annual combat combat community exercises. This made it possible to achieve a sufficiently high interoperability of all the compounds and parts included in the grouping. Issues of joint action within the framework of the EPC will also be worked out at the upcoming exercise "West-2013"

Already today, according to many experts, the creation of an EPC for air defense increased the overall effectiveness of air defense in the region for Belarus by 1,4-1,6 times, and for Russia - by 1,7 times. For some indicators of the effectiveness of combat command and control of troops (forces), air defense increased by 25-27 percent, the combat effectiveness of the air defense system - by 33-35 percent.

It should be noted that cooperation is also observed between enterprises of the military-industrial complexes of the two countries where there are serious achievements and successes. At 2566, the plant for the repair of electronic weapons (Borisov) mastered the processes of modernization and repair of the C-300PT / PS, Buk and Osa-AKM air defense systems, the Tunguska air defense missile system, a wide range of radar stations, ground equipment and control complexes. As part of the Russian-Belarusian IFG “Defense Systems”, the plant is one of the leading performers for the modernization of the C-125М series of air defense systems to the Pechora-2М option for export deliveries, performs work on the modernization of air defense systems under the NPP Tetrahedron and NIISA projects.

Many military experts are trying to call the EPC Air Defense a response to the creation of a global missile defense system by the Pentagon, and European missile defense in particular. But such comparisons are not entirely correct. If the main function of the Belarusian-Russian project is to protect the airspace of Belarus and Russia, the American system is primarily aimed at neutralizing the Russian nuclear potential. This fact cannot but cause political confrontation and not create military tensions in the region.
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  1. Docklishin
    Docklishin 24 September 2013 07: 47 New
    32
    That's right - happy. Still would not be scandalized about and without. And they did not break Old Man with gas and oil prices. It seems like brothers ...
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 24 September 2013 07: 53 New
      28
      I think you should not mix oil and gas with the deployment of a military base. The base is needed not only for us, but also for Belarus, just like people there soberly assess the situation and understand everything perfectly.
      1. Docklishin
        Docklishin 24 September 2013 08: 41 New
        23
        Sometimes it is necessary to neglect personal interests for the sake of a common cause - that's what I mean. We have business with Ukraine. Now they are in NATO and the EU. As the saying goes: "in spite of the conductor, I will buy a ticket and will not go." Although Ukraine, oh, how depends on our sales markets ...
        1. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 24 September 2013 09: 35 New
          33
          Quote: DocKlishin
          Sometimes it is necessary to neglect personal interests for the sake of a common cause - that's what I mean. We have business with Ukraine. Now they are in NATO and the EU. As the saying goes: "in spite of the conductor, I will buy a ticket and will not go." Although Ukraine, oh, how depends on our sales markets ...


          You can start to forget about Ukraine. It will become another Romania or Albania in Europe. That is, they would endure it according to the principle that the Russians would not get it, but at the same time they will ruin it. They will remove the education system, then the army, then the economy. They will give them a euro loan and then they will strangle them completely ... and one concept will remain of malorosiya.
          1. Gari
            Gari 24 September 2013 10: 40 New
            10
            Quote: Geisenberg
            You can start to forget about Ukraine.

            But I’m risking being optimistic and expressing my hope that all the same, sanity will prevail among the rulers in Ukraine and they will make the right choice to join the Customs Union, especially as far as I know, the majority of the population of Ukraine wants it.
            1. 787nkx
              787nkx 24 September 2013 11: 21 New
              +2
              Inevitably.
            2. edge
              edge 24 September 2013 12: 53 New
              11
              Quote: Gari
              and express my hope that all the same in Ukraine, rulers will prevail with sanity

              the hetmans have nothing sacred, only den. signs in their eyes click again, again, again ..... Recall Khmelnitsky, he tried to climb under the Crimean khans, then he agreed with the saints and eventually came to Moscow.
              1. Gari
                Gari 24 September 2013 14: 11 New
                +5
                Quote: hert
                eventually went to Moscow.

                Exactly
            3. Current 72
              Current 72 24 September 2013 20: 55 New
              +3
              The desire of the people, for the power of Ukraine, does not mean anything, remember the USSR, the people wanted to remain united, as a result of power, they broke up alive, to pieces.
            4. alone
              alone 24 September 2013 23: 21 New
              +2
              hello Harry. unfortunately, rulers never take into account the opinions of ordinary people. so it's all 100% utopian.
    2. Airman
      Airman 24 September 2013 09: 12 New
      +6
      Not a nightmare, but a waking nightmare! And there you need a couple more scouts for complete happiness.
    3. edge
      edge 24 September 2013 12: 46 New
      +4
      let it go ....... ki understand that we will shoot them down seriously. angry
    4. brelok
      brelok 25 September 2013 06: 05 New
      +1
      In 96, Lukashenko said that if we leave, amers will come! Our drunk did not believe in it. We finally got hold of it!
  2. Rus_87
    Rus_87 24 September 2013 07: 49 New
    24
    Such news cannot but rejoice! Still a couple of regiments of the Russian Su-27 and S-300 (400) divisions to us in Kazakhstan, and then it would be generally wonderful! Did the Russians understand the hint? drinks soldier So, as they say, kosh kelelenzder (welcome)!
    1. alekseinew
      alekseinew 24 September 2013 14: 15 New
      -5
      only dad, as always, can spoil everything, very much he is not a constant and impudent person
      1. Current 72
        Current 72 24 September 2013 21: 05 New
        +5
        Firstly, it’s not impudent, but rooting for his country, secondly, leading the state’s policy towards others, since they are pursuing a policy towards us.
  3. Civil
    Civil 24 September 2013 07: 50 New
    27
    Poles can scream as much as you like, but toilets for the British to clean for them
  4. Denis
    Denis 24 September 2013 07: 51 New
    22
    Does he sleep badly from them?
    Maybe Iskander in the Kaliningrad region would sing him a lullaby, he wouldn’t yap, a mongrel NATO
    sorry photos with Iskander are not bullshit, but these are also not bad
    1. Edward72
      Edward72 24 September 2013 08: 05 New
      15
      This is good news in the morning, the whole day lifted the mood.
      Denis is a photo of Iskander for you personally.
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. Pit
        Pit 24 September 2013 09: 01 New
        16
        Another picture, not much, but in the subject)
      3. Denis
        Denis 24 September 2013 10: 38 New
        +3
        Quote: Edward72
        Denis is a photo of Iskander for you personally.
        Thank you!
        I wish she could be sent to this Komorowski, she might be happy ...
        1. novobranets
          novobranets 24 September 2013 18: 10 New
          +1
          Quote: Denis
          I wish she could be sent to this Komorowski, she might be happy ...

          Glue tape on Iskander himself, and send it? fellow
          1. Denis
            Denis 25 September 2013 00: 30 New
            +1
            Quote: novobranets
            Glue tape on Iskander himself, and send it?
            How else?
            Obama e-mail and reads the same mail, the only way
  5. Sergeant
    Sergeant 24 September 2013 07: 58 New
    +7
    Quote: Rus_87
    Such news cannot but rejoice! Still a couple of regiments of the Russian Su-27 and S-300 (400) divisions to us in Kazakhstan, and then it would be generally wonderful! Did the Russians understand the hint? drinks soldier So, as they say, kosh kelelenzder (welcome)!


    I think, if necessary, there will be more and "cooler"!
    So .. calmly live and work drinks

    And pin.osovskiy Poles so that every door slams at the door!
    1. German
      German 24 September 2013 23: 05 New
      +1
      voice from Ukraine (Eastern, Dnepropetrovsk): Approved, sir!
  6. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 24 September 2013 08: 14 New
    12
    Well, once on the other side of the border the heather has turned on, then everything is right. That's right wink
  7. O_RUS
    O_RUS 24 September 2013 08: 18 New
    +4
    I read it with pleasure! Pleased! good
  8. PValery53
    PValery53 24 September 2013 08: 22 New
    +5
    The Polish lords-rulers wanted to load Russia, now let them carry the heavy burden of animal fear!
    1. slacker
      slacker 24 September 2013 08: 45 New
      +5
      Poland’s participation in the creation of Euro-missile defense, the deployment of American F-16 aircraft on its territory, an unprecedented buildup of its own military power will trigger retaliatory steps from the Union State of Belarus and Russia.


      And here is the answer:
      1. Deniska
        Deniska 24 September 2013 10: 47 New
        +5
        And what has "SWIRL" to do with it?
  9. Veter
    Veter 24 September 2013 08: 44 New
    11
    Poland yapping? I would be surprised if it were the other way around.
    1. self-propelled
      self-propelled 24 September 2013 10: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: Veter
      Poland yapping?

      the dogs bark - the caravan is coming. Few people pay attention to all these hysterical cries. let yourself yapping
  10. Denis_Rossiya
    Denis_Rossiya 24 September 2013 09: 06 New
    +4
    Now we are waiting for a thread for another attack from Poland. laughing
    1. v.lyamkin
      v.lyamkin 24 September 2013 09: 34 New
      +4
      Indeed, it's time to come up with some kind of dirty trick. And then time goes on and on, but there are still no dirty tricks. It’s somehow incomprehensible.
      1. Andrey57
        Andrey57 24 September 2013 09: 59 New
        +3
        Apparently, the Poles jammed. Or they realized that they tried all the options, and to repeat in the second round is not solid laughing
        1. self-propelled
          self-propelled 24 September 2013 10: 36 New
          +3
          Quote: Andrey57
          Or you realized that you tried all the options

          either they realized that the United States is not such a reliable ally, and at any moment can "turn on the back" (a recent example is the situation with Syria)
          1. edge
            edge 24 September 2013 12: 59 New
            +1
            Quote: self-propelled
            or realized that the US is not such a reliable ally

            no, these don't understand-stubborn
        2. F117
          F117 25 September 2013 21: 04 New
          0
          The Poles have recently taken something like guardianship over the Baltic states, apparently the virus there and picked it up.
  11. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 24 September 2013 09: 33 New
    +3
    Already today, according to many experts, the creation of an EPC for air defense increased the overall effectiveness of air defense in the region for Belarus by 1,4-1,6 times, and for Russia - by 1,7 times. For some indicators of the effectiveness of combat command and control of troops (forces), air defense increased by 25-27 percent, the combat effectiveness of the air defense system - by 33-35 percent.
    It was always interesting how exactly these percentages of efficiency are calculated. Why it is 1,7 times, and not 1,65 or 1,8.
    Who knows, share it?
    1. alexng
      alexng 24 September 2013 10: 25 New
      +2
      It is considered a percentage of what happened. Nothing unnatural, bare arithmetic.
    2. edge
      edge 24 September 2013 13: 03 New
      +1
      detection coefficients, interception capabilities at various distances, counteraction with the help of electronic warfare and reflection
  12. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 24 September 2013 09: 50 New
    +6
    Great news! That way over time, Poland will completely sit down purely from its servile fear, which has eaten into their psychology over the centuries. And we need both in Belarus and Kazakhstan to properly restore the layered air defense / missile defense system.
  13. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 24 September 2013 10: 07 New
    +4
    that's interesting, but Poland has some significance on the theater of operations, except for generating screeches against Russia and likes of the ass of the Indians?

    (placement on their territory does not count, it's just spreading the legs ...)
    1. Rif
      Rif 24 September 2013 16: 21 New
      +2
      I’m not special in strategy and tactics, purely from the experience of the Great Patriotic War, all these Poland, Latvia, etc. Lithuania have limitrophs, well, the battlefield in case of conflict, I don’t substitute my own territory for bombs when there are so many jackals.
  14. major071
    major071 24 September 2013 10: 14 New
    +9
    Positive article laughing At least something in the morning pleased.
    Quote: Denis_Rossiya
    Now we are waiting for a thread for another attack from Poland. laughing

    And why wait, they will now advance the NATO missile defense system on Ukrainian territory. But if it weren’t for Ukrainian gestures towards the west, what a powerful fist of missile defense we could do, then Komarovsky would have done more than just his pants. wink
  15. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 24 September 2013 10: 30 New
    13
    Somehow like this...
    1. self-propelled
      self-propelled 24 September 2013 10: 42 New
      0
      good Roman, you set off! +++ laughing smiled
  16. self-propelled
    self-propelled 24 September 2013 10: 32 New
    +2
    Really no one predicted that Poland’s participation in the creation of Euro-missile defense, the deployment of American F-16 aircraft on its territory, the unprecedented buildup of its own military power will trigger retaliatory steps from the Union State of Belarus and Russia

    Russia has long warned Poland that retaliatory measures will be taken. what else could you expect. In addition, back in 2007, Mikhail Puzikov (Deputy Minister of Defense of the Republic of Belarus) announced that by 2015-2020 it was planned to implement a number of measures for the complete re-equipment of the 465th missile brigade stationed in the city of Tseli (Osipovichi district, Mogilev region) on new equipment (instead of the Tochka-U complexes, it was planned to put into service the Iskander)
    "... don't wake the sleeping dog ..."
  17. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 24 September 2013 10: 39 New
    +3
    The stick has two ends .... and which one is stronger right away and it’s not clear ..... so the Poles don’t know this at all .... it’s good that our Belarusians reminded them of this .... let them squeal .... they another and can not
  18. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 24 September 2013 10: 57 New
    +3
    I want to bring one article from the Polish magazine on this occasion:
    In 2003, Poland acquired 48 fighter jets. Their cost is $ 3,6 billion. At the same time, the total amount of the transaction, including pilot training and investment in the development of the necessary infrastructure, is about $ 6 billion.
    One of the conditions for the acquisition of American fighters was the consent of the United States to invest in the Polish economy an amount equal to the cost of aircraft.
    But despite the statements of representatives of the Polish government that the country receives the latest aircraft, problems with them immediately began. The first two fighters could not, as planned, fly nonstop from the United States to Poland. Due to engine problems, they had to land in Iceland.
    Faults were later. Fighters were forced to emergency land several times at a military airfield in the vicinity of Warsaw. According to the representative of the Polish Air Force Weslaw Grzegorzewski, in 2007 alone, 1700 accidents happened to American fighters. A spokesman for the Air Force says they were not serious. However, according to the publication Polska, many serious damage is recorded. They mainly relate to engines, navigation equipment, combat systems and rescue systems. At the same time, in Poland these problems are explained by the novelty of the aircraft provided by the USA.
    According to Piotr Laskowski, an expert at the Military Poland survey, it is not surprising that equipment of this kind often breaks down. This, in his opinion, is typical for all modern equipment that depends on electronics.
    Due to the increased accident rate of the F-16, the Polish Air Force leadership restricts their flights or allows them to be carried out if the problems are not very serious. Under these conditions, Polish pilots have to fly even without weapons on board, which causes criticism from the pilots themselves.
    The main reason for the restrictions on F-16 flights is the high cost of their repair. To date, the Polish Ministry of Defense has already spent, according to Polish media, about 120-170 million dollars for spare parts for fighters.
    The Polish military, apparently, did not expect that the operation of American aircraft would be so costly. Although independent experts on the eve of concluding an agreement with the United States warned about the capriciousness of American cars.
    As for the promised investments, as representatives of the United States say, about $ XNUMX billion has already arrived in the framework of the agreements on the supply of fighter jets to the Polish economy.
    1. smiths xnumx
      smiths xnumx 24 September 2013 11: 00 New
      +2
      According to Obywatel observers, most of this money went to purchase a number of aviation enterprises in Poland that were put up for privatization by the state.
      After buying them by American companies, according to the publication, they gradually lose their ability to independently produce aircraft. The manufacturing process is often limited to screwdriver assembly.
      Also, the difficulty lies in the fact that new planes from the United States arrive in Poland faster than pilots trained in Poland who can lift them into the air. According to the Ministry of National Defense, the Polish Air Force will need at least 48 pilots and 16 technicians to pilot and service 72 F-1348 planes. To date, the Polish Air Force has managed to train only 20 pilots. Another 29 Polish pilots are trained in the United States, but only 12 of them are learning to fly the F-16. The rest are preparing for this while attending English courses.
      According to initial plans, in 2011, all 72 F-16 pilots should serve in the Polish Air Force. However, it is now becoming clear that this group of pilots will be fully equipped only at the end of 2012, and thus, for almost a year, part of the military vehicles purchased in the United States will simply stand on the ground, since there will be no one to lift them into the air.

      http://www.military-informant.com/index.php/airforce/159-f-16poland.html#.UeGL19

      LTolk
      That is, the Poles bought used American F-16s, for which there are no pilots or technical personnel, since all the documentation is in English. So they frantically trying to modernize the MiG-29, supplied by the USSR, as well as collected by them from the Germans and Czechs.In general, this is already a tradition ... to recall only the ex-American frigates, which will soon celebrate their 16th anniversary, or ex-Norwegian submarines of the same antiquity in the Polish Navy. The killed F-10s, bought 29 years ago and for which Polish pilots will not "learn" in any way, which has to extend the life of the MiG-2020 for XNUMX. Old German tanks that are scrapped in Germany have become "excellent Leopards" in Poland.
      In general, the development of Polish power on the face.
  19. pensioner
    pensioner 24 September 2013 10: 57 New
    +1
    The first to wake up from this dream was Marek Butko, the former first secretary of the Polish embassy in Belarus. However, his statements about an immediate threat to Poland’s national security more closely resembled the cry of a passenger who was late for the train. Indeed, the train has left.

    Screams began good ! For a long time they have something this time, a long time. Nothing improves your mood in the morning like reading the Polish press. I went to foreign media today laughing
  20. Sochi
    Sochi 24 September 2013 12: 13 New
    +2
    Pshek ... Two years there he served in the SGV. I met different, outspoken Russophobes and obvious enemies (the guy with whom he was drafted from Lazarevskaya was killed, in the winter, the pans were killed and left under the ice), mainly in the west. The east was more friendly. There were those who respected us very much, though it was mostly old people who were under the German.
  21. Corrint_25
    Corrint_25 24 September 2013 12: 39 New
    -11
    Quote: Gari
    Quote: Geisenberg
    You can start to forget about Ukraine.

    But I’m risking being optimistic and expressing my hope that all the same, sanity will prevail among the rulers in Ukraine and they will make the right choice to join the Customs Union, especially as far as I know, the majority of the population of Ukraine wants it.

    However, Moscow is doing everything to make Ukrainians willing to join the TS less and less every week ...
    1. Sochi
      Sochi 24 September 2013 13: 02 New
      11
      And what does she do? The loan for 750limons of American rubles was given without preconditions at the minimum interest - as meanly on her part ... (The IMF has not been giving loans for three years, did not pay interest!!!). Tired of persuading Moscow, it behaves with Ukraine like everyone else, no privileges, but Ukraine does not like this much ...
    2. Gecko
      Gecko 24 September 2013 14: 01 New
      +5
      And what should it supply you with gas for 50 USD as before? And you will again pour mud on Moscow.
      Or do you need to blow in the ass? What did Russia personally do to you specifically bad?
      Are you poorer? Or maybe you already need to look at your popularly elected rulers?
    3. uizik
      uizik 24 September 2013 15: 29 New
      +3
      And we are not needed in the Customs Union! It is better to use such a country with its politicians and business in the role of a Trojan horse. And it is better to wait what will be left of it in years. As they say: "It will give itself, but only who will not take it!"
  22. Andrew-88
    Andrew-88 24 September 2013 13: 32 New
    +2
    The Polish government sleeps and sees western Belarus Polish)))) Looks like Komorowski wants to be a collector of Polish lands. Refresh the borders of Poland within the Commonwealth. I apologize, but Fuck you !!!
    1. Sochi
      Sochi 24 September 2013 14: 11 New
      +1
      We don’t need ... But they didn’t interfere, and rub it in the eyes so that it would cry easier.
  23. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 24 September 2013 13: 44 New
    0
    Denis_Rossiya SU
    Now we are waiting for a thread for another attack from Poland. laughing

    v.lyamkin RU
    Indeed, it's time to come up with some kind of dirty trick. And then time goes on and on, but there are still no dirty tricks. It’s somehow incomprehensible.

    If they do not come up with it, they will "remember" ...
  24. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 24 September 2013 13: 45 New
    0
    Denis_Rossiya SU
    Now we are waiting for a thread for another attack from Poland. laughing

    v.lyamkin RU
    Indeed, it's time to come up with some kind of dirty trick. And then time goes on and on, but there are still no dirty tricks. It’s somehow incomprehensible.

    If they do not come up with it, they will "remember" ...
  25. RUS96
    RUS96 24 September 2013 13: 55 New
    +1
    Why Lida? Is it close to the border?
  26. T-130
    T-130 24 September 2013 17: 23 New
    +4
    Yes, the Poles did not wake up! If they woke up they would look around and understand that the path following the USA is the path to the abyss!
  27. Alikovo
    Alikovo 24 September 2013 17: 44 New
    +6
    I love when the Poles and the Balts scream about the threat from the east. as Suvorov said: whoever is afraid is half defeated.
    1. KEKS44
      KEKS44 24 September 2013 18: 25 New
      +7
      And what is the Baltic states afraid of? They have five tanks and military ATVs. He with such power is not a goddamn brother.
  28. mole
    mole 24 September 2013 18: 34 New
    +4
    Quote: Veter
    Poland yapping? I would be surprised if it were the other way around.

    They have always been under someone’s history, only within the Russian Empire more or less real independence.
    The news and article are positive! Nicely!
  29. Altona
    Altona 24 September 2013 19: 08 New
    +5
    My youth is Belarus ... Military unit 39872 air defense ... As for Psheks, Americans use them as their girls ... Bases are created in Poland, but they don’t buy anything from Psheks, they even import water, business isn’t going to in general, among the Poles ... In addition to prostitution ...
  30. ruslan207
    ruslan207 24 September 2013 19: 55 New
    +2
    Actually, Lida, 20 km from the border with Poland, I don’t know what exactly Lida was chosen in which case the base will probably be covered by artillery and a reserve airfield somewhere near Baranavichy Russia if its base can have tactical nuclear weapons
    1. Eugene
      Eugene 24 September 2013 22: 00 New
      +2
      Well, not 20. It’s Grodno 20. There’s a little further. There’s a good airdrome-Schuchin. In Soviet times, it rattled. Like Lidskiy. And Lidskiy beer rattled, who remembers. Like Murmansk ..
      1. shurup
        shurup 25 September 2013 00: 51 New
        +2
        I've been, sir. But "beer" is a German word, and now in Lida they remember mead and the recipes are not forgotten. Lucky flyers.
  31. Enot-poloskun
    Enot-poloskun 24 September 2013 20: 18 New
    +5
    The public is interested in whether Komorowski has changed his clumsy panties)))
  32. scientist
    scientist 24 September 2013 22: 47 New
    +3
    Poland has historically been a big problem for Russia. Its cowardly politicians have always succumbed well to the maipulations of the West and easily turned the country into a springboard for aggression. In order to suppress the bad thoughts of the Poles in the bud, you need to build a good "green" fence on the border from Iskander, especially these OTRs would look good in Lydia. Let them admire.
  33. shurup
    shurup 24 September 2013 23: 00 New
    +3
    Poland before the empire, as the Earth before the moon’s satellite.
    Again, the big boys will take the last zloty for sweets.
    Polish vodka didn’t get angry, let's drink Russian schnapps, and we’ll trample ukrov with wings — they have a little left to go!
    The good city of Lida lives in a nearby ulus.
  34. vanderhaas
    vanderhaas 25 September 2013 03: 47 New
    +3
    Poland has already been torn into small tomatoes twice, for the last time with a significant population decline. But, in accordance with current sayings, 1) he is beaten up 2) God loves the trinity.
    The only question is, who will tear this Poland apart for the third time? Well, But father?
  35. KOH
    KOH 25 September 2013 04: 57 New
    +2
    Quote: DocKlishin
    Sometimes it is necessary to neglect personal interests for the sake of a common cause - that's what I mean. We have business with Ukraine. Now they are in NATO and the EU. As the saying goes: "in spite of the conductor, I will buy a ticket and will not go." Although Ukraine, oh, how depends on our sales markets ...


    I will support you, everything is clear with Ukraine under the current government ... but Belarusians could have loosened the nuts easily ...
  36. Alikovo
    Alikovo 25 September 2013 07: 07 New
    +1
    except for the fighters to place the Tu-22 there. The Poles will generally fall on the spot.
    1. self-propelled
      self-propelled 25 September 2013 10: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: Alikovo
      to place there that 22. the poles will generally fall straight on the spot

      I'm afraid there are not only Poles, but also half of Europe
  37. Stasi
    Stasi 28 September 2013 14: 51 New
    0
    The fact that the Poles, together with the Baltic states, raised another squeal about the strengthening of the defense capabilities of Russia and Belarus means that we are doing everything right. Let them squeal and hurt further. In addition to fighters and the S-300, a new radio equipment and flying radars of the A-50 type are also needed in a modernized version. In general, despite all the political tensions, our countries will continue to strengthen ties in all areas.