Military Review

One shot - one goal

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Mountain motorized rifle brigades deployed in the south of Russia, which were established in the Ground Forces less than 10 years ago, are unique to many - from equipment and weapons to the composition and training system. The motorized rifle brigade of the (mountain) rifle company (snipers), which is part of the motorized rifle brigade deployed in Karachay-Cherkessia, is special. And although such units exist in other motorized rifle formations of the Russian army, it is in mountain teams that they make snipers not just accurate shooters, but universal soldiers who are able to operate successfully not only in the plain, but also in mountainous and wooded areas. As it happens, the Red Star managed to be seen in the brigade commanded by Colonel Mikhail Zusko.


The usual practice of conducting classes, when units are simultaneously located at different training points, is used everywhere in the army. This eliminates the "simple" military, until they reach the turn to perform a specific exercise. So the rifle company (snipers) of captain Vyacheslav Barkov was engaged on that day at several training places: at the climbing gym, the mountain obstacle course and at the water barrier located near the point of permanent deployment.

“We have such knees on our knees, we have such mountains on our shoulders,” rank-and-file Alexei Biryukov, humming a song in his own way, was humming to himself, waiting for his turn to “storm” the climbing wall in the gym. The nearby namesake and countryman from Don, Private Skorobogatov, smiled skeptically.
- What, you do not believe that I will get to the ceiling without stopping? I will leave you, Lech, far behind, - soldier dispersed.

“Do not forget about security requirements,” the squad leader junior sergeant Ivan Sudarkin, who at that time was on the insurance of his subordinates, cooled the fervor of the debaters. Ivan also called from the Rostov region. And the character of both Alekseev knows better than others. The desire to prove that you can do something better than your comrades is a good help in the service. Command even encourages a competitive spirit. The main thing is to do everything with the mind. Then the soldiers will not forget about “undercurrents” even for a second. Therefore, the squad commander before each new “race” to the gymnasium reminds of the observance of the textbook truths of the mountain workers. His mentor tone does not bother anyone, although before commencing his classes, the platoon commander, Lieutenant Nikita Pichuyev, reminded the servicemen in detail all the nuances of training on an artificial rock and carefully checked their ammunition. The height intended for conquest is only a few meters. In addition, mats are laid down for additional insurance. In the mountains this will not happen. And you need to get used to this long before the servicemen go to practice on the rocky massifs.

Ordinary Biryukov and Skorobogatov came to the “top” at the same time, setting their tone for the rest of the snipers with their speedy rise. Other servicemen, ordinary Andrei Kuznetsov and Dmitry Novoseltsev, were equally confidently guided with mining ammunition.

“For the first time I saw mountains near here,” admits Dmitry, who was born and raised in the Volgograd region. “We have only steppe around.” But I already feel confident when climbing up to a height on my own.

Before the “guy in the mountains to take the risk”, with each of them experienced officers and mountain training instructors master all the necessary aspects of climbing. The servicemen learn to knit different knots themselves, because for each exercise, one knot fits better, while others do not fit at all. In addition, the soldiers are studying climbing equipment. It seems that Zhumar is just that (a special device for descending and ascending), but in order to use it as efficiently as possible, it is necessary to conduct more than one theoretical and practical exercise.

Climbing lessons with the "mountain workers" are not limited. The mountain obstacle course is another important element of the practical training of servicemen who will act in the foothills and mountains. A whole complex of various obstacles has been created here, overcoming of which imitates the performance of tasks in a mountainous and wooded area. Under the leadership of the contract commander of the junior sergeant under the contract, Mamedbek Aliyev, servicemen who had only recently entered the unit mastered the technique of passing difficult obstacles. For this we need strength and dexterity, and skill.

- From the first time there is nothing even to think about keeping within the standard. At first, it is important to just go through the entire strip, the contract soldier explains.

Even to him, a professional, it is not easy. After all, Mamedbek himself signed his first contract not so long ago, and he served in conscription in Siberia, where the area was, though covered with forests, but flat.

The successes of the soldiers engaged in the mountain belt are obvious. Many factors affect. Including the fact that for service in the brigade is carried out especially meticulous selection. Most of the soldiers were friends with sports long before the draft, many of them had sports categories. It helps in serving in such a specific unit.

“The educational and material base of our unit is structured in such a way that in the RPM and near the brigade to work out most of the training issues,” commented the company commander, Captain Vyacheslav Barkov. - And this means that every day for our servicemen is extremely full of classes that are useful for enhancing their professional training. And you do not need to spend precious time on the movement from one educational object to another.

Snipers are very proud of the fact that they have a company 2 rank in mountaineering and combat experience. The commander generously shares his knowledge and skills with his subordinates. Everyone knows that he is not a supporter of oversimplification. Any lesson will necessarily be filled with introductory exercises that bring the training closer to real actions when performing a combat or special task.

For example, when climbing a cliff, it is not always possible to install a station. This is remembered during class. So, it is necessary to rise without habitual "railing". But even in this case, the servicemen do not believe in the saying that “an intelligent person will not go uphill”. To successfully solve a problem, it is often necessary, despite any difficulties and dangers, to go uphill. Go, correctly, according to the rules. Soldiers from a rifle company (snipers) are constantly learning this. Including when following on the ground. It is only a few kilometers from the point of permanent deployment. But what! Snipers are constantly working out the tactics of action in different situations. And again, a string of introductory - from the loss of the commander to the tricks from the enemy. Overcoming hilly, rugged ravines, the area also carries its practical load. Movement along the grassy slopes, descent and ascent with the use of an ice ax - only a few are at first able to. But after a few lessons the servicemen confidently use different methods of the course: “head on,” “herringbone” or “zigzag”.

Another training point where personnel work to overcome water and other obstacles. And again, mining equipment is involved.

- We regularly hang out on the ropes, as hung out for drying clothes, - the servicemen are joking.

However, when performing these exercises aside, all is very serious here. In the area where the personnel of the subunits of this mountain brigade have to work, obstacles in the form of a mountain reservoir and crevices are found at every step. To be able to overcome them is a prerequisite for each military unit. And the thing is not that soldiers are afraid to dunk their feet. Many rivers running in the highlands are simply impossible to ford. And here the skills acquired during regular classes will be useful.

At first, the miners learn to properly install the ropes, through which people, ammunition and property are transported. And it is not necessary that a real natural obstacle be under the trainees. Even for the first time, one and a half meters below is the saving soil. But the soldiers confidently move on the "rope viaduct." The exercise was successfully performed at the beginning by private Vasily Anosov, then ordinary Artur Petrov and Roman Shevchenko. They had to move independently along the rope stretched between the trees. But Private Dmitry Kurylev portrays the wounded man - colleagues send him through insurance.

“You have to be ready for anything, so the exercises are often complicated,” explains the squad commander, junior sergeant Alexander Bozhko, who controls the correctness of the air services performed by subordinates.

Private Denis Yankovsky has already served about 9 months. It seems that this difficult task is very easy for him.

- It only seems. In fact, the crossing of the barrier is very difficult. It helps the skill - we regularly work out this exercise, sometimes several times a week - gives us the secrets of the skills of the soldiers.

But a sniper is a sniper. And first of all he needs to perfectly master the special small weapons. There are several types of rifles in service in the sniper unit: SVD-S and VSS. And the almost complete lack of a limit on ammunition.

Before it hits the target, each soldier shoots his weapon. And then performs various fire tasks. There are also a lot of professional secrets. Their chief custodians are officers. Commanders generously share their skills. The result - good results in the defeat of targets in subordinates. Private Alexander Zapatotsky from 8 shots knocked out 79 points. 7 hits in the "apple" is worth a lot. But before going to the firing line, the soldier, together with his comrades, made a forced march, having overcome several kilometers in full gear.

- Excellent weapon - it falls by itself, - Alexander smiles.

And then he begins to quote the rules from the lessons with the mark of shooting, which the commanders taught to the snipers from his squad. After all, in order to deftly pry the plywood opponent, a lot needs to be taken into account: to make corrections to the wind and the movement of the object, not to forget about the humidity of the air and its temperature, to accurately determine the distance. The work in the mountains also carries its nuances, where the rules of aiming are noticeably different from the actions on the plain. And still need to hold his breath, gently pull the trigger. When meeting with the real enemy, these calculations and actions should be made “on the machine”. However, this is not all sniper specificity. Servicemen of company snipers work out tactical operations in pairs. Unobtrusively and extremely close to the object, to hide from his eyes, not to give out anything while waiting for “H time”, and after the shot, safely go back home - all this is also the verge of sniper skill.

For the past two years in a row the rifle company (snipers) has been the best division of the brigade. She is also among the best in the 49 Army Combat Army of the Southern Military District. The occupied mountain-level snipers are not going to surrender to the occupied height anymore. Moreover, the way ahead is to fulfill a serious task set by the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces of Russia to military units and formations deployed in the North Caucasus to ensure the security of the facilities of the Sochi Olympics.
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  1. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 21 September 2013 12: 34 New
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    Everywhere doctrines go, as we prepare for what is not good belay On the one hand, excellent, but on the other, alarming.
    1. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 21 September 2013 12: 36 New
      37
      It’s hard to learn, easy in battle. Making up for lost years
      1. avt
        avt 21 September 2013 14: 20 New
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        Quote: ivshubarin
        It’s hard to learn, easy in battle.

        It’s easy on the hike, so if I’m not mistaken verbatim, Suvorov said that they later came up with a fight.
        1. gizz
          gizz 21 September 2013 17: 17 New
          +3
          A bit wrong. "It's hard to learn - Lighter in battle."
          1. s1н7т
            s1н7т 22 September 2013 17: 03 New
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            H'm. And it was postponed for me that Suvorov said: "It's hard in training, but in battle it will be even harder." And this, in my opinion, is correct. And this - already all the folk alterations like "In a strong body - a strong spirit", although, as we know, in the original - "A strong body would still have a strong spirit."
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov 22 September 2013 21: 34 New
              +1
              Quote: c1n7
              "A strong body still has a strong spirit."

              Behold, comrade! The overwhelming majority of ordinary people simply repeat the previously heard phrases of "authoritative" people, without trying to comprehend them and believe that this makes them smarter. wink
            2. cosmos111
              cosmos111 23 September 2013 09: 47 New
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              Quote: c1n7
              that Suvorov said: "It's hard in training, but in battle it will be even harder."

              What is the use of writing what Suvorov said.
              Such geniuses are born once in 1000 years.
              Judging by their actions alone, with a modern RA, in leading positions in the Ministry of Defense, they would have ***. crying
              One SHAMAN man.
    2. Old skeptic
      Old skeptic 21 September 2013 12: 44 New
      12
      Let this alert our potential "friends". angry
      1. ivshubarin
        ivshubarin 21 September 2013 12: 56 New
        +8
        Let not alarm, but annoying. That would not relax
    3. amp
      amp 21 September 2013 13: 20 New
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      To the Sochi Olympics? laughing
    4. Hauptam
      Hauptam 21 September 2013 13: 33 New
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      That's much better, soldier than to dig potatoes or to paint a border
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 22 September 2013 00: 16 New
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        Quote: Hauptam
        dig a potato or paint a border

        - Leaves in autumn (each yellowed leaf (!)) painted with green paint on the arrival of the general laughing laughing
    5. Bosk
      Bosk 21 September 2013 14: 53 New
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      The exercises are a normal state of the army, if it was quiet and smooth ... this was alarming.
    6. sub307
      sub307 21 September 2013 15: 09 New
      +7
      Being alert is normal. The armed forces exist for war to fight, to fight well: with minimal damage to oneself and the maximum for the enemy it is required to train (study), learn this specific activity on regular exercises, the more regular, the better the result. It seems even happy that it is precisely "everywhere the teachings are going", and not only in the Moscow region in Kantemirovskaya.
    7. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 21 September 2013 15: 12 New
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      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Everywhere doctrines go, as we prepare for what’s not good. On the one hand, excellent, but on the other, alarming.

      It should be so.
      If you want peace, prepare for war.
      The price of freedom is constant vigilance and the ability to fight.
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    9. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 21 September 2013 19: 41 New
      +1
      Well, listen to Romanitch! you are positioning yourself as a people's chosen one, so come on, don’t let us down, verb truth! why there on the sidelines rub! ? or you to fellow then ???
    10. komendor
      komendor 21 September 2013 21: 22 New
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      That's right, our scientists in various sciences, mathematics, astrology, history, etc., long ago somewhere in the 70s, spoke and wrote about various incidents and wars in the world, the accuracy is about 1-1,5 years. So, in 12-13 years, RUSSIA will approach war, but politicians will not allow it. But 15-16 won will begin with the east. Now these books can not be found
    11. Bobogle
      Bobogle 21 September 2013 21: 24 New
      +2
      Want peace, get ready for war.
    12. aksakal
      aksakal 22 September 2013 00: 19 New
      +2
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      On the one hand, excellent, but on the other, alarming.
      - only quietly, only I’ll tell you a big secret ... We’ll bump hard. In the sense of fighting. With the States, with NATO ... I won’t tell you exactly in terms, but the fact is that we will definitely. It is as inevitable as the fact that tomorrow the sun will again rise from the horizon. Only this is a secret, do not talk to anyone, understand?
    13. pahom54
      pahom54 22 September 2013 09: 21 New
      +1
      And what, it is not clear that it was high time to prepare "for something bad" ??? It's time, it's still time, and mountain rifle training is VERY necessary now ...
      And so in general - it’s joyful that the troops moved, studies are underway, fighting coordination, and the bad guys see this, and they think - is it worth it to tease Russia?
  2. ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 21 September 2013 12: 34 New
    +2
    With such Eagles, the Southern Frontiers are safe
    1. Fenris
      Fenris 21 September 2013 13: 50 New
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      I suspect that the southern borders have nothing to do with it, the matter is in the southern republics themselves, which are part of Russia. Dagestan, Ingushetia, Chechnya, where stability is bought with the money of ordinary Russians, but where the cult of the war with Russia is ripening, as shown by the recent contest of Russian symbols and the opening of a monument, such as to Chechen women who died during the wars with the Russian Empire. The inhabitants of these republics did not become Russians and, a smoldering bonfire of contradictions, begins to flare up, eating the firewood of Sagra, Pugachev, and the notorious monuments. And it is still unknown what kind of policy will be after the Olympics, whether they will continue to fill up with money or block the tap. Therefore, the troops of the southern district and pump up weapons.
      1. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 21 September 2013 15: 30 New
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        Quote: Fenris
        I suspect that the southern borders have nothing to do with it, the matter is in the southern republics themselves, which are part of Russia. Dagestan, Ingushetia, Chechnya, where stability is bought with the money of ordinary Russians, but where the cult of the war with Russia is ripening,

        Do not make people laugh.
        There are fewer combat-ready people throughout the North Caucasus than in the Sverdlovsk Region alone. What the hell is the war with Russia? A cockroach war with a slipper.
        A couple of regular army divisions in a week will turn the Caucasus into a plain where even a rat will have nowhere to hide.
        Pasha Grachev was right, for leveling Grozny in 1994 a couple of airborne regiments would have been enough if you fought in full, and not chewed snot.
        And it is not conscripts who should fight, but men of 25-30 years old who took part in the database and not burdened with intellectual nonsense about the "tear of a child" and about "every person in the universe."
        Before "establishing constitutional order" it was necessary to first brush the militants' hair with vacuum bombs and other effective tools of democracy so that they would not dare to think about resistance.
        For every robbed, killed and raped or simply beaten up civilian, the Chechens had to answer according to the law of wartime, each bandit a loop or a bullet.
        1. Fenris
          Fenris 21 September 2013 15: 41 New
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          Have you dreamed? Well, now return from your world of illusions to the real one, where bandits are still in the mountains on Kaukaz, where the population, in the bulk, is hostile to Russia, where in the republics in which "fighting-capable people live less than in the Sverdlovsk region alone "there are injections exceeding the budget of a dozen" Sverdlovsk regions ", where recruitment into the army is practically frozen, because they are openly afraid of the conscripts. No one will fight in full, there will be just explosions, ambush attacks and other, familiar image of war, which has set the teeth on edge over the past decades. And where do you get the men 25-30 years old who took part in the database?)) Maybe you yourself will unleash a "small, victorious war"?) Or maybe our army is already a contract?
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            1. Gooch v. 2
              Gooch v. 2 21 September 2013 19: 23 New
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              Quote: Corsair5912
              Nonsense.
              Nobody is afraid of any chubs-draftees, the command is given above not to touch them, and prosecutors are carefully jumping on their hind legs in front of them, as soon as the Russians squeeze them.
              The infusions are not for the sake of lumps, but for the preservation of the pipe, which can produce 200 million tons of oil. Lumps for the Kremlin are even less valuable herd than all the other "Russians".
              No one will fight in full, only until the Czechs prevent Moscow from pumping oil.
              The peasants who participated in the database at the level of local conflicts and were ready to shoot at running targets in Russia have more than a dozen thousand, just hang down, there will be no end to volunteers. The people have long been ready, in Sagra 9 unarmed Russian men 60 armed chocks fled.

              yes yes yes) some spherical forces in a vacuum from above gave the command not to touch the Kaukas and the rassians became hostages in their own country, that would only give free rein, so they would press all non-Russians ... if only it were not for the virtual prosecutors sitting in cozy offices, for the past five years I have heard "yes if it weren't for them", "yes we are all of them," "yes, we parvy these chyurok," people like you, they say, are all to blame for some virtual uncle on top. so dear in this country, you are a lump.
              1. Corsair5912
                Corsair5912 21 September 2013 20: 36 New
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                Quote: Gooch v.2
                only not virtual prosecutors sitting in cozy offices, for the past five years I have been hearing "if it weren't for them," "yes, we are all of them," "yes, we parve them," but when it comes down to it, the grass is quieter than water, only snot and screams of people like you are heard, they say, some virtual uncles from above are to blame for everything. so dear in this country, you are a lump.

                My dear, you are either hopelessly stupid or you don’t understand or see the root crop and don’t see what is happening in Russia.
                The gangster 90s ended, the time for chocks ended, everywhere they are crushed, where sharply and immediately, where slowly and gradually.
                In the Urals, the kazaktsevs have long been sharply trampled upon and not noticed; the turn will reach other regions.
                They are beaten everywhere in the army, but every time the corrupt courts strive to punish the Russians and the media are silent about it, the Yankees do not pay them for this, it’s in Russian’s favor.
                So the judotrolls like you strive to fart odorously.
                1. Gooch v. 2
                  Gooch v. 2 22 September 2013 06: 16 New
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                  Quote: Corsair5912
                  My dear, you are either hopelessly stupid or you don’t understand or see the root crop and don’t see what is happening in Russia.
                  The gangster 90s ended, the time for chocks ended, everywhere they are crushed, where sharply and immediately, where slowly and gradually.

                  yes no buddy, it’s rather you don’t quite blunt what’s what.
                  “According to the GUBOP, a large number of crime bosses are also in the Southern Federal District, where they control the hotel and resort business and the production of alcoholic beverages.
                  The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia has data on a thousand of so-called thieves in law, while about 200 of them are under operational development. According to the results as of December 1, 2003, law enforcement authorities detained 38 criminal authorities who called themselves “thieves in law”, while 23 of them committed crimes related to drug trafficking.
                  Colonel Zakharov also noted in an interview that "the thieves' movement is multinational, but 65% of all" thieves in law "are Caucasians."
                  It is no secret that the lion's share of officials sitting in high offices broke through in them, purely due to criminal connections, and not due to some kind of spherical Americans in a vacuum that no one saw :)
                  It’s like the devil for medieval people, the cow died the devil is to blame. There are agents of the West (they used to be called witches sorcerers, accomplices of the devil) now they play the role of America’s spies, and here your thinking has stopped at the level of medieval people, soon you will probably burn scientists at the stake, under the prayers of the Russian Orthodox Church, and the psalms of Kirishka Gundyaev. )
                  I can give a bunch of examples, if you call the beating of a Tajik janitor a great Russian resistance, and pressure on a "churok", then excuse me, our conceptual apparatus works in different ways. By the way, tell this guy about how you crush a chock, he will neigh. :)
                  1. Hleb
                    Hleb 22 September 2013 06: 38 New
                    +1
                    The corsair, of course, is being driven away. He also beats Caucasians in the army everywhere, and he calms Chechnya in two weeks, and Grachev said everything correctly! And he found 200 million oil (although the people involved are halving the figure) the strategy of the state after the collapse of the USSR was not to destroy the country. to preserve its integrity, but because there is oil there (the strategist thinks so mercantilely) ... give such freedom, they would really "roll" into the plain of Chechnya, but that would be the beginning pi .... tsa unseen for Russia.
                    Yes, he’s on his own wave, but you didn’t upload this photo. Any of us could be in Mirzoyev’s place. Actually, he turned out to be himself. This is a special case with sad consequences, but it does not reflect what you were talking about. By the way could put a photo of that girlfriend. because of which it seems he hit. or the meaning of the photo in another?
                    1. Hleb
                      Hleb 22 September 2013 06: 59 New
                      +1
                      and it is still not entirely clear (according to his logic) why not "roll out" Chechnya and then "just" pump oil.
                      why in order to have money from Chechen oil today, you need to pour in more (taking into account the swelled and what remains to be) than it is worth it! he himself does not understand what he writes
                      1. Gooch v. 2
                        Gooch v. 2 22 September 2013 07: 17 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Gleb
                        and it is still not entirely clear (according to his logic) why not "roll out" Chechnya and then "just" pump oil.
                        why in order to have money from Chechen oil today, you need to pour in more (taking into account the swelled and what remains to be) than it is worth it! he himself does not understand what he writes


                        Dagestan costs the federal budget about an extra (compared to the level of Stavropol) billion dollars annually. In other words, control over the republic costs every Russian about $ 7 a year. What global problems can be solved for 217 rubles a year - only Krylov and Navalny know the answer to this question. The Western Caucasus is "cheaper", its additional cost compared to the "level of Stavropol" is about $ 700 million.

                        The dynamics are also quite indicative. So, if in 2008 the level of subsidization of the budget of Karachay-Cherkessia was 69,7 percent, then in 2011 - 61,8 percent. Kabardino-Balkaria has reduced federal dependence by 6% last year alone. Probably, if current trends persist, the level of subsidies in the Western Caucasus in 10-15 years will not differ much from the average Russian region. In Dagestan, the situation is worse - here the level of subsidies has only been growing (plus three percent in 2011). However, the enchanting level of dependence on the giving "hand of Moscow" here is largely due to insufficient collection of taxes, and the federal center clearly intends to turn the tide - this year, subsidies to Makhachkala have been reduced from 51 to 43 billion rubles.

                        Now let's consider the most painful issue. The main irritant is undoubtedly Kadyrov's Chechnya. How much does it cost the federal budget? Grozny gets about a third of Moscow's spending on subsidies to the North Caucasus. In 2011, Chechnya received 58,4 billion rubles, while 87% of these funds came from the center. Thus, budgetary expenditures per capita amounted to 45796 rubles. - twice as much as in the Stavropol region. At the same time, Rosneft produced 7,4 million barrels of oil in Chechnya for more than 20 billion rubles; what was the net profit from its sale is unknown. The level of taxation of Rosneft in 2011 was 52%. In other words, oil production could compensate for less than 20% of the costs of "maintaining" Chechnya. The budget for 2012 was intended to be cut, reducing revenues from the center by more than half (from 52 to 23 billion), but in practice it increased - subsidies reached 56,4 billion. In fact, we are talking about 2 billion dollars.

                        De facto, this is already a fourfold superiority over the "standard" amount of subsidies. Although on the scale of the federal budget, "Chechen" spending is practically invisible (0,4%), politically "overfinancing" of Grozny is certainly unacceptable.
                    2. Gooch v. 2
                      Gooch v. 2 22 September 2013 07: 06 New
                      +5
                      Quote: Gleb
                      Yes, he’s on his own wave, but you didn’t upload this photo. Any of us could be in Mirzoyev’s place. Actually, he turned out to be himself. This is a special case with sad consequences, but it does not reflect what you were talking about. By the way could put a photo of that girlfriend. because of which it seems he hit. or the meaning of the photo in another?

                      I can lay out, will it change something? You can post photos and Agafonov, many in the Internet community, including the Slavs, support Rasul. It’s not a secret to anyone that Ivan Agafonov was not as positive a figure as he was described in the media, he was on recognizance not to leave, because he was in the case of a robbery. But how much shit was poured on Rasul after this incident? What information press did he belong to? Moreover, he had the strength to continue his career in sports.
                      1. Hleb
                        Hleb 22 September 2013 08: 42 New
                        +1
                        this is exactly what I had in mind. in the context of discussing relations between Caucasians and Slavs (even in the same army, even though it is about thieves) Mirzoyev’s photo is simply useless. .da generally to do with it- tell this guy about how you push the chock, he’s laughing. :)? All Caucasians in the army, for example, warriors and world champions? Yes, even so, if it is overgrown, you can break anyone. Especially the crowd
                      2. Corsair5912
                        Corsair5912 22 September 2013 09: 14 New
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                        Quote: Gleb
                        the girl with him is just an example of what nationality has nothing to do with it. Yes, what does it have to do with this? Tell this guy about how you push the chock, he’s laughing. :)? All Caucasians in the army, for example, heroes and world champions? Yes, even so, if it is overgrown, you can break anyone. Especially the crowd

                        Such girls are not expensive, they do not want to work, and they can only lie on their backs.
                        If I show this pathetic crap, how we push the chock, he will never be able to laugh. A clown from the ring costs nothing against a real fighter.
                      3. Anat1974
                        Anat1974 22 September 2013 12: 02 New
                        0
                        Do not borscht?
                2. Corsair5912
                  Corsair5912 22 September 2013 09: 28 New
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                  Quote: Gleb
                  and oil found 200 million (although people involved the figure is halved) and we did not turn Chechnya into a plain, not because the main strategy of the state after the collapse of the USSR was not to destroy the country. to preserve its integrity, but because there is oil there (the strategist thinks so mercantilely) ... give such a free rein- they really would "roll" into the plain of Chechnya, but that would be the beginning of a pi ... ts unseen for Russia.

                  Gleb, do not believe the "implicated", according to the state balance sheet, explored oil reserves in Chechnya are 40 million tons, forecasted resources are 160 million tons.
                  In the 90s, nobody cared about Russia, every politician strove to grab a piece of the pipe, Berezovsky and Chernomyrdin fought for Chechen oil, each had their own militants on a leak.
                  Chernomyrdin personally negotiated with his fighters who captured the maternity hospital in Budenovsk and personally ensured that they left without hindrance. And then suddenly blurt out too much, open the name of the sponsor.
              2. Debryansk
                Debryansk 22 September 2013 16: 32 New
                +3
                Gooch v2 I can name quite a few RUSSIAN guys of excellent fighters - SHLEMENKO, EMELYANINKO and so on. And that is why the law enforcement agencies are constantly pestering the Russians. in the case of a showdown with the Caucasians, this is a fact; their task is such that the Caucasian issue does not appear in any way.
              3. maximus
                maximus 23 September 2013 10: 23 New
                +1
                Well, I think all the same we can))
            2. Gooch v. 2
              Gooch v. 2 22 September 2013 06: 23 New
              +2
              In the Urals, the kazaktsevs have long been sharply trampled upon and not noticed; the turn will reach other regions.
              They are beaten everywhere in the army, but every time the corrupt courts strive to punish the Russians and the media are silent about it, the Yankees do not pay them for this, it’s in Russian’s favor.
              So the judotrolls like you strive to fart odorously.

              I heard about Caucasians in the Urals :)
              EKATERINBURG, October 9. In the Sverdlovsk Region, a criminal case has been initiated against military personnel suspected of inciting ethnic hatred. They wrote the words "Azerbaijan" and "Dagestan" on the backs of the soldiers with shaving foam.


              In Yekaterinburg, Caucasians beat the journalist after he photographed their barbecue. According to the newspaper "Vedomosti Ural", the owner of the institution also actively participated in the massacre.


              Recently, right in the center of the city, in a park located next to the Puppet Theater, a crowded bandit rally took place. According to operational data, criminal authorities from all over the region attended the criminal gathering. According to eyewitnesses, the streets adjacent to the scene were packed with cool foreign cars to which several hundred Ural and Siberian brothers arrived at the site.
              The reason for this gathering was a gathering of metropolitan authorities in Moscow, where the Lavrushniki (Caucasian thieves in law) dismissed the Slavic authority “watching” Yekaterinburg, named Trof, and appointed their fellow countryman to this high position.

              continue to continue?) or will you continue the sagra as an example?)
              1. Corsair5912
                Corsair5912 22 September 2013 08: 38 New
                -2
                Quote: Gooch v.2
                continue to continue?) or will you continue the sagra as an example?)

                All of these posts are at least 15 years old.
                Chock wrote shaving foam not in E-burg, but in Kaliningrad. In E-burg he would immediately be beaten into the anus.
                The barbecue facilities in E-burg are kept by Uzbeks, and Azerbaijanis pave the way and sweep the streets, every day I watch them on the way to work. This barbecue was burned for a long time together with the owner, the magazine was roofed by the Uralmashevists.
                Half of this gathering, it was in the mid-90s, went straight to the bunks, and a week later a kazakaz looker was shot by a sniper, like a dog.
                1. Gooch v. 2
                  Gooch v. 2 22 September 2013 09: 11 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Corsair5912
                  Chock wrote shaving foam not in E-burg, but in Kaliningrad. In E-burg he would immediately be beaten into the anus.

                  Did you learn to read in Russian? Or is everything bad with geography? Confuse Kaliningrad with Yekaterinburg?
                  "The military investigation department of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation for the Yekaterinburg garrison has opened a criminal case against the servicemen of military unit 61423, privates Teymur Mammadov and Elbrus Musayev. Conscripts, trying to emphasize the superiority of the Caucasians, wrote" Dagestan "on the backs of 16 servicemen with shaving foam, "and other words and filmed it on a mobile phone, told Nakanune.RU in the press service of the Military Investigation Directorate of the Central Military District."

                  The barbecue facilities in E-burg are kept by Uzbeks, and Azerbaijanis pave the way and sweep the streets, every day I watch them on the way to work. This barbecue was burned for a long time together with the owner, the magazine was roofed by the Uralmashevists.

                  Well, if the Uzbeks are closer to your heart, then you should not say so to everybody, that’s exactly what the Azerbaijanis are sweeping the streets, and you are sitting on topvar and winding snot on your fist, looking for some kind of spherical Americans in a vacuum.

                  Half of this gathering, it was in the mid-90s, went straight to the bunks, and a week later a kazakaz looker was shot by a sniper, like a dog.

                  Do you have your own virtual world? In which "chyurok" do you drive? What is the Mid 90s? If Ded Khasan was killed this year? From Uralmash, 2 observers whose authority is recognized by Khabarov (who accidentally hanged himself in a pre-trial detention center after a conflict with Caucasian thieves, in particular with Khasan) and Karo (Karogly Mamedov is a native Slav and not a Caucasian nirazu :))
                  For those in the tank:
                  "The media, referring to the operational data of law enforcement agencies, asserted that Usoyan, as of 2009, was the leader of the Caucasian organized crime groups, controlled most of the Russian organized crime groups, regulating conflicts and disagreements between them."
                  Is it worth talking about Rudik Bakinsky and Tariel Oniani? how are they involved in the redistribution of power among thieves? Dear, based on your murderous logic, you, your fifth point, are not the master, please do not bargain, Uzbeks, Azerbaijanis, Armenians, Dagis, there is no difference, the fact is, ethnic groups decide not the last role in this country.
                  1. Corsair5912
                    Corsair5912 22 September 2013 13: 29 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Gooch v.2
                    "The military investigative department of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation for the Yekaterinburg garrison has opened a criminal case against servicemen of military unit 61423, privates Teymur Mamedov and Elbrus Musayev.

                    Bullshit from the first paragraph. In E-burg a long time ago there was no garrison and the Investigative Committee. In addition, the Urals has nothing to do with the Central Military District, it has its own VO and its own press service.
                    Everything else is just as stupid nonsense and lies.
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      3. 31231
        31231 21 September 2013 21: 27 New
        +2
        Kindly link to
        there are cash injections exceeding the budget of a dozen "Sverdlovsk regions"


        Next
        where recruitment into the army is practically frozen, because the chock of draftees are frankly afraid.


        I don’t know where you are and how you served. I in 99-2000 in 34 MSD saw a lot of them. Moreover, the already serving Caucasians behaved appropriately, but those who only arrived from the mountains had to be felled with their fists, and not chatter in the internet.
        1. Corsair5912
          Corsair5912 21 September 2013 22: 12 New
          +3
          Quote: 31231
          Kindly link to
          there are cash injections exceeding the budget of a dozen "Sverdlovsk regions"

          Where will he take such a link? One Uralmash has a budget and produces more products than the entire North Caucasus combined
          In 2004 at Uralmashzavod OJSC
          was produced products, works, services at - 3 rubles
          Key performance indicators of the company in 2010
          Proceeds from the sale of goods, products, works and services - 5 rubles.

          The trend is unambiguously traced, an increase in production.
  3. Debryansk
    Debryansk 22 September 2013 15: 57 New
    +1
    Fenris is your plus. I think after the Olympics nothing will change in domestic politics, I’m alarmed by the weapons of our troops in the north. the Caucasus did not pass into the hands of Caucasians, before the operation to force the Caucasus to peace. But it is not at that time that the president will take such a turn in domestic politics.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 21 September 2013 12: 45 New
    +2
    Hour X is near to see .. Weapons of the modern are few so far but what we have to keep at the level and in full combat readiness! Especially such mountain brigades! About 15-17 years ago .. they would have been back (there would have been less problems ..)
  • amp
    amp 21 September 2013 13: 19 New
    0
    That would be such troops in the year 1999.
    1. vietnam7
      vietnam7 21 September 2013 14: 18 New
      +3
      In 1999, instead of them, special forces ran around the mountains. On the basis of the 33rd detachment, they created a mountain brigade in Botlikh (Dagestan).
  • Mails
    Mails 21 September 2013 13: 20 New
    +7
    The article on intonation is already very much written in the news story from the USSR.
    If, as a whole, we discard the intonations of the article and it is not so rosy as described, look at the preparation ...
    Then the training of the soldiers going on can be said to be excellent.
  • Jogan-xnumx
    Jogan-xnumx 21 September 2013 13: 26 New
    +4
    ... the almost complete absence of a limit on ammunition.

    This is especially pleasing! You need to feel the weapon, like your skin and insides. This is generated by constant shooting. And not only in the shooting range every six months, three - zeroing, three - offset for "Makarka" and 12 for "Kalash" fool
  • chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 21 September 2013 13: 53 New
    +4
    Yes, just like when you were young. An article in the style of the district newspaper "On Guard of the Motherland". Only a caring political officer is missing))
  • darksoul
    darksoul 21 September 2013 14: 20 New
    +4
    In the south, mountain motorized rifle brigades are very necessary ..... abreks climb ... suddenly, there will be something to answer and not youths unshooted as in the first and second companies send
  • max73
    max73 21 September 2013 15: 54 New
    +8
    in winter, this team will sit in the mountains around Sochi. so the preparation process is important. and the fact that, as some say here, the article was written in the spirit of the USSR - is it really bad?
    1. Anat1974
      Anat1974 22 September 2013 12: 13 New
      0
      What's good? As far as I remember, the TV program "I Serve the Soviet Union" was called "Visiting a Fairy Tale" in the army, only bravura reports and window dressing. And who believed her? Nobody. Everyone knew that a complete p ... well. If you like it when they hang noodles on your ears, watch RenTV. And the article is really all paint and varnish and ostentatious.
  • BARBED
    BARBED 21 September 2013 16: 10 New
    +4
    The media writes these articles for the people, so that he sees the defenders of the Fatherland, and not painters and clerks with grain cutters. That's why she and the Red Star. And the TV channel Zvezda educates young people about the exploits of their ancestors and shows the present, albeit with a little embellishment, but this is better than in the 90-00 of the year. Conscripts to come became ideological. The Olympics will take place and the alignment in the south will change. I mean, ohhhhh .. from the money and permissiveness, some segments of the population of the southern republics.
    And the current training takes place at the beginning in the snot and calluses of young fighters, and then they enjoy the acquired skills.
    A classic example from life: a soldier from Sochi, from wealthy Armenians, served for the first time, days when the unit was coordinated, the soul of the team of his group. The first one and "flew" to the BZ ..... Then, like everything, he pulled the strap.
    The bottom line: father arrived on the day of dismissal. You said you raised a man in a year, but I couldn’t do it for 20 years.
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 21 September 2013 17: 38 New
    +3
    Visiting a fairy tale?)) All these troops are good when they work in a complex. Figuratively speaking, special equipment is the tip of a spear, motorized arrows and its other shafts. And one without the other sucks works. A link is communication and target designation. And in our country this is completely shitty in the troops. So it’s still 41 year ... And the preparation here will only allow us to die heroically and not win.
    1. Anat1974
      Anat1974 22 September 2013 12: 22 New
      0
      I agree completely with Zomanus. We are constantly stepping on the same rake, but history does not teach us anything. Our chance and disintegration .... in (I’m not afraid of this word) already look not funny but dramatic. I am not going to whine and cry, but such articles give us all a splurge and do not reflect the real state of affairs in the armed forces.
  • Clueless
    Clueless 21 September 2013 18: 19 New
    +3
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Everywhere doctrines go, as we prepare for something bad belay. On the one hand, excellent, but on the other, alarming.


    That war will be sooner or later I think no one doubts, it is inherent in human nature.
    1. phantom359
      phantom359 21 September 2013 22: 35 New
      +4
      No, it’s not in human nature. It is usually unleashed by those who will not fight with weapons in their hands. For the people this is a terrible disaster. Let. better, virtually fighting.)
  • voliador
    voliador 21 September 2013 20: 42 New
    +3
    It’s better to wait for her and get ready than to sit on the pope and grab it unexpectedly.
  • lecturer
    lecturer 21 September 2013 21: 14 New
    +2
    Something with every year my old "pity" tears looking at our granddaughters with machine guns. For them, the pedagogical message:
    And God grant you, be faithful to the Oath!
    And the first always in the ranks!
    Be fearless on the battlefield!
    And bow only to the Lord King!
  • Committee
    Committee 21 September 2013 21: 34 New
    +2
    In St. Petersburg, in the very heart of the northern capital, "UNKNOWNS", 30-40 people with shouts of Allah-Akbar opened fire at passers-by. There are wounded. There is evidence that they were not allowed into the nightclub and they decided to take revenge in this way. Everyone. Us.
    1. GREAT RUSSIA
      GREAT RUSSIA 21 September 2013 22: 46 New
      -1
      Just don’t say that because of this you look at all the inhabitants of the North Caucasus with one measure. I ask you not to say this. By the way, have the nationality of the people been established?
      1. Committee
        Committee 21 September 2013 23: 21 New
        +2
        Residents of the North Caucasus live in the North Caucasus, right?
  • ando_bor
    ando_bor 21 September 2013 23: 07 New
    +3
    My son served an urgent term in this part so as not to write again; I’m copying my demobilization report from the forum
    relatives of the soldiers.
    Hello, I’ll tell you in more detail how we served and quit.
    We didn’t go to meet, the Stavropol demobilization - 11 people, we ordered a minibus,
    At 12-30 we left the unit, we were traveling unhurriedly - we were in the city at 17-30,
    there he was met by friends in a car, I was just at the entrance, went out, met.
    He gave bouquets to mom, grandmother, dad brought army dry bag. They sat down for dinner - festively, showed repairs in the apartment that his grandmother provided him, and he went to the girl. He has a girl, waited, and we know her, but he officially did not represent her to us as a bride, and we do not intervene, so the meeting was divided, it looks like they’re serious, but he’s not going to get married in the near future - he says it’s necessary to get settled.
    He served in intelligence, he was lucky, his company was not disbanded, he spent all his service in one place in one position. There were no problems with the service, but this does not mean that it was easy to serve. If you want the army not to strain - you yourself cannot relax. This is probably one of the main difficulties of military service.
    The nature of the tension is changing - physical, psychological, but all the time you need to be on the alert. With all the external prosperity, I see, all this was not easy.
    In general, the part is good, and as for intelligence, in general it is the best place where conscripts in the Russian army can get. Well, this is my opinion - I have a lot of information
    reviewed and I can filter it. All this does not exempt from army troubles such as: round - drag, square - roll, hours-long constructions with listening to educational conversations, often obscene, about the flight of a soldier you don’t even know, sports holidays - running on weekends and holidays, all this - a means of maintaining discipline and order in large parts, and nothing new has been invented since my service.
    And the rest I liked the army, and I am pleased that I served, a very serious combat training, they fired a lot. He shot from all the weapons that are in the company, and there are a lot of things there, he shot well, despite the points. There were interesting tactical exercises, exits - raids in the mountains, mountain, rock exercises. I know his critical attitude to everything, but from the sudden winter march, I was delighted, despite some problems - they completed the task. Good living conditions - I took a shower almost every day, as I got used to at home, if in part, of course I was. In intelligence, the discipline was higher, and they didn’t have theft, so he had all sorts of small utilities, he ordered us to send them: a tourist gas burner, an emergency rain cape, a hob, etc., an emergency knife required for reconnaissance was practically a dagger , a watch with arrows, all this as Cossacks bought for their own. There were no big problems with money allowance: they issued a VTB card to the military enlistment office, but there wasn’t any ATM at the beginning of the service, there was a delay in payment, about a month, then the card was changed, the delay was eliminated, demobil (2 salaries) were transferred before dismissal. Dembelsky, settlement - for the last full and incomplete month of service he received almost at the same time, + he left a little from the previous months, practically did not accumulate and did not save 60+, he counts on a modest trip to them to the sea and Europe.
    During the whole service, we went to him 4 times, didn’t ask for a night, says it wasn’t necessary, there is discipline in intelligence, and I don’t want to ask someone. They sent about 10 parcels, the grandmother and the girl also sent something.
    My wife in the unit - in the town, I like it, she says let's go here to rest - quietly, calmly. I say: why go there? Nearby, the neighboring gorge - Arkhyz - is a popular resort and tourist destination, over there China carries children there. And I love and often happen, the neighboring gorge on the other hand is to the west, the Bolshaya Laba gorge is less popular among civilians and I like it.
  • alexander 2
    alexander 2 21 September 2013 23: 08 New
    +1
    No wonder they say: "If you want peace, prepare for war." If the army is strong, no one will dare to attack us. I am writing common truths, but someone still cannot understand this.
  • ando_bor
    ando_bor 21 September 2013 23: 08 New
    +1
    He served himself, and now he realized that waiting for a soldier is also a “fascinating occupation”, some excitement cannot be avoided, and this is natural, but panic is not worth it in the current situation in the army, it’s not more dangerous than in civilian life, and even safer in some positions, we just can’t to influence it.
    I want to say that where in principle there isn’t much difference, people are different, everyone has different preferences, and even in a system like the army everyone finds their place according to their preferences, it just takes different time and effort.
    Thank you all for your support, information. Wait for your luck and good luck in the civilian world. Dembel is inevitable! I’ll look in, maybe I’ll tell you.
  • In the reeds
    In the reeds 22 September 2013 01: 41 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Everywhere doctrines go, as we prepare for what is not good belay On the one hand, excellent, but on the other, alarming.

    This is normal army either fighting or studying
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 22 September 2013 17: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: In the reeds
      This is normal army either fighting or studying

      The army is characterized by only 2 states - war or preparation for it. In any other state, it is not an army. I don’t remember who said)
  • Lecha57
    Lecha57 22 September 2013 05: 24 New
    +1
    Nothing to say! In general, not bad.
  • Technologist
    Technologist 22 September 2013 06: 34 New
    0
    I think professionals should serve there, not conscripts.
  • AX
    AX 22 September 2013 07: 27 New
    +1
    Friends! Http: //topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/644/bule559.jpg Here the "new" public council of the RF Armed Forces is discussing ...
    1. kagorta
      kagorta 22 September 2013 08: 44 New
      +3
      This, so that when necessary, one could simply redraw the colors without a stencil. But in fact, they simply gave the task to the wise, smart, dignified, neat goat obstinate (the designer is his last name) to come up with whatever it was, so he got it from the Internet and photographed it.
  • AX
    AX 22 September 2013 07: 29 New
    +3
    I think this is an American trace ... What a simple red star did not please ...
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 22 September 2013 09: 24 New
    +4
    Quote: AX
    I think this is an American trace ... What a simple red star did not please ...

    In Serdyukov reform come up! They want to erase the memory .. The red star gives them no peace! At the sight of her nausea and vomiting begins ..
  • mithridate
    mithridate 22 September 2013 12: 13 New
    0
    Well done, keep it up!
  • s1н7т
    s1н7т 22 September 2013 17: 11 New
    0
    Quote: Corsair5912
    In the Urals, the kazakhtsev have long been sharply trampled upon and have not been noticed

    What, and on Uralmash too? I know from somewhere, there the head of the district, on the contrary, indulges their businesses. Chechens, by the way. He even dragged one to the administration (at the MU UZHKH).
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 22 September 2013 21: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: c1n7
      Quote: Corsair5912
      In the Urals, the kazakhtsev have long been sharply trampled upon and have not been noticed

      What, and on Uralmash too? I know from somewhere, there the head of the district, on the contrary, indulges their businesses. Chechens, by the way. He even dragged one to the administration (at the MU UZHKH).

      There are, in the E-burg Chechi, where are they not? Even in Chicago showed up. But they are not seen in domination, crap and dirty tricks in the quiet and jackal little by little. They cannot live differently.