"The position of PR." Political analyst explained why the outcome of voting in the Congress on Syria became unpredictable

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"The position of PR." Political analyst explained why the outcome of voting in the Congress on Syria became unpredictable

“In the USA itself, in the expert community, even in the intelligence community there is a great skepticism about intervening in the Syrian problem,” political analyst Sergei Markedonov told the newspaper VIEW. He does not exclude that the appeal of Obama for the support of Congress is caused by the desire to avoid an attack on Syria.

The American president has shown hesitancy around the plan for air strikes on Syria. In the middle of last week, many expected that Obama would start a war without the permission of not only the UN Security Council, but also his own Congress. However, after the parliament of Britain’s closest ally, suddenly rejected the idea of ​​an immediate strike, the US president clearly hesitated, and at the weekend he declared that he wanted to get his parliament’s approval first.

Obama's hesitations are reflected in his dual statement. He stated that, in fact, he had already decided to start the bombing, but immediately made a reservation that he would consult with the Congress.

As a source in the State Department told Fox News, Obama reserves the right to start the operation, even in the event of a negative vote on the resolution. In this case, the need to consult at all seems strange to observers. On Monday evening, it became known that the upper house of Congress - the Senate - will convene for an emergency meeting on Tuesday.

Although Obama expressed his readiness to completely ignore the decisions of the UN Security Council, that is, complete disregard for the UN and international law, in the draft document itself submitted to Congress, on the contrary, the need for a strike is justified by reference to one of the resolutions of the UN Security Council (No. 1540). It also says that the actions of Damascus violate international norms, in particular the norms of the Convention on the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons.

The meeting of both chambers of Congress on the Syrian issue for the President of the United States about what moods will eventually prevail among American congressmen, the invited researcher at the Washington Center for Strategic Affairs told the VIEW newspaper. and international studies Sergey Markedonov.

VIEW: Sergey Miroslavovich, in your opinion, Obama and the American elites sincerely believe that “Assad broke the line” and should be punished, and for this they are chosen by God, is this their mission? Or is it just political rhetoric?

Sergey Markedonov: To answer this question, you need to be a specialist in the field of chemical weapons and have access to classified material. Today, judging by the information made public, I don’t think that the evidence is serious enough. As for Assad, the American administration expressed its opinion quite a long time ago: “Assad must leave.”

VIEW: Could Obama say, the evidence is insufficient, and not to believe these messages? Like, the blow will not be because we are not sure? After all, until now, the States use the expression “to a large extent confident”, “significantly confident”, and not “absolutely sure”.

S. M.: If they say so, then they really are not sure.

VIEW: If there is evidence, why do they not disclose it? Is this due to secrecy considerations?

SM: We have brought the entire Syrian crisis to these attacks, although here is a completely different, much wider situation. There is a perception among the American elite that it has the right to intervene in international conflicts, to change regimes, if, from the point of view of the American administration, they pose some kind of threat.

There is a more conservative view on the problem of interventions - on the part of China and Russia, which again exists not from some idealistic considerations, but on the assumption that Moscow and Beijing are “clutching at the wreckage” of the Yalta-Postdam system.

VIEW: Are there any states in the States who, like Obama in the past, are famous for their distinctly anti-war rhetoric, a call for non-interference in Syrian affairs? If so, what kind of support do they have?

SM: The population hardly imagines what is happening in Syria. What do you think Uncle Sam from Ohio seriously imagines who the Alawites and Shiites are, what makes the Kurds different from the Arabs? I do not think that this issue is really worried about the American population. Americans are worried about unemployment and the problems of health insurance are much more than the question of Syria.

As for politicians, it’s not a matter of “military and anti-war”, but of pure pragmatism. Senator Rand Paul, for example. Can he be considered an anti-war leader? No, this is a senator of the conservative direction, but he says: “There is no national interest of the United States in this, because the people who oppose Assad are not American friends.

There are also political scientists who criticize, but they are not necessarily “anti-war”. I would say that the opponents of the strike on Syria are divided into three groups. Firstly, they are civil society leaders, representatives of the American left spectrum. There are conservative Republicans, like Rand Paul, who believe that intervening directly in all world processes is simply not in the interests of the United States. There are also isolationists, supporters of the traditional American line of development.

The issue is widely discussed, it cannot be said that one and all speak in favor of a forceful solution.

VIEW: What might be the balance of power during the discussion of the resolution on Syria - among Democrats and among Republicans?

SM: The division into Democrats and Republicans is very vaguely maintained on very many issues. Many do not have any clear binding, among them there are interventionists and "pragmatists."

VIEW: On Sunday, a closed meeting was held in Congress, at which representatives of the special services and the White House shared secret evidence with Congressmen accusing Damascus. But when the congressmen came out from behind closed doors, they did not look convinced at all. Even those of them who are in favor of a strike on Syria, explained this not at all by the weight of evidence, but by purely image reasons. Republican Sandy Levine said: “I think members of Congress will make a military decision, because if we don’t do anything, we’ll stand in an unfavorable light.” How important is this fear for them to “appear in an unfavorable light”?

S. M.: Unfortunately, this fear is decisive. These are such grimaces of democracy, when politicians think not so much about a strategic decision, as about how to look profitable. The logic of the level "the man said - the man did."

In my opinion, this plays a destructive role, because in the USA itself, in the expert community, even in the intelligence community, there is great skepticism about intervention in the Syrian problem.

Back in 2011, former National Intelligence director James Klepper reported that al-Qaeda was among Bashar Assad’s opponents. The PR campaign plays a very large, perhaps decisive role, the superpower still needs to understand that its global significance is not only a benefit, it is a burden.

Representatives of the Congress, who will support the military decision, will be guided by the “image motive”, and Obama himself has many of them - he is a complex person. He remembers his claims that the war in Iraq is wrong, his anti-war slogans, under which he went to power. On the other hand, he also said the words “red line”, “Assad should leave,” as a result, a feeling of some kind of confusion is created. If the less reflexive president had been in Obama's place, the United States would have long gotten involved.

VIEW: Other congressmen, on the contrary, directly admitted after the meeting that nothing has yet been proved, they are still set to vote against ... What is your forecast for the outcome of voting in the senate and the House of Representatives?

SM: You know, I would not risk now predicting the results or the approximate ratio of votes. If the decision of the Congress is negative, it will create a very serious precedent. In the practice of military interventions, I don’t remember the case when the US legislative and executive authorities differed diametrically. If it is, a very interesting example will appear.

VIEW: According to your feelings, does the president really want to fight? Maybe the refusal of Congress will allow Obama a convenient way out of the situation, saving face?

S. M: I would rather agree with this statement. It is obvious that a lot of unpredictable scenes are connected with the situation in Syria, so I believe that the president at least wants to share responsibility.

If Congress says “no”, then it will be possible to declare: “We have a supposedly democratic country,” even more so that the US Constitution directly recommends declaring war with the help of legislative power. The president can always say: "I followed the constitution, I was a Democrat." If the Congress supports the decision of the president, then it will acquire a greater degree of political legitimacy.
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  1. +1
    4 September 2013 13: 06
    Maybe at the summit it will be possible to delay or dissuade Babamka. I’m trying to pass the wish out as valid. Well, what if. request Everything quite unsure passed in Congress. Will hope.
    1. +7
      4 September 2013 13: 10
      Quote: a52333
      Everything is not sure enough passed in Congress

      60 days of bombing and then maybe another month of extension, you think "not sure" belay
      The Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs of the United States agreed on the text of a resolution on the attack on Syria. According to the document, the Americans expect to keep within 60 days, and if necessary, extend the operation for a month. US Secretary of State John Kerry did not rule out the deployment of land forces to Syria, but then called his words "thoughts out loud."

      This is carte blanche for Obama ...
      1. +3
        4 September 2013 13: 57
        Quote: seasoned
        This is carte blanche for Obama ..

        Almost yes, but the Senate Committee is not the whole Senate.
        Although knowing the previous decisions on all "sensitive" issues, then with a probability of 99% I am sure that the Senate will accept (in the proportion of 55% for and 45% against) the decision to start ironing out Syria.
        If they turn on the back then after a few years they will necessarily repeat, Libya as an example.
      2. 0
        4 September 2013 18: 48
        "60 days of bombing and then maybe a month of extension, you consider it" not sure "" ....
        That is, as I understand it, they seem to have refused the ground operation (by no means, the Amer’s boot will not set foot on Syrian land), BUT ... but, throwing 2-3 axes for a month will be a little expensive !!! sales for NATO ... It turns out: the use of the Air Force, and this is in the worst case scenario for the Syrians (suppressed with axes of air defense, sabotage, etc.).
        The question arises: How are you going to save the downed pilots? is it not with the help of local rags? ... I'm sure not .. not with their help !!! So some sort of Skye grouping should be there !!!
        And just wondering: What will the American authorities tell their citizens about the downed pilots ... if they say anything at all)) ... Or will it become "real" for them to start a large-scale full-fledged war ?! ...
      3. RUSSIA 2013
        0
        5 September 2013 13: 47
        Border situation


        The Turkish government supports the Syrian militants in their confrontation with the Assad government. Through Turkey, routes for the supply of weapons and ammunition to opposition groups in northern Syria pass.


        The Turkish army several times shelled the territory of Syria with guns and mortars. The reason for the shelling was the fall of several shells on the territory of border Turkish cities.


        The situation on the border escalated after Syrian militants accused Damascus of using chemical weapons.


        After that, Turkish Foreign Minister Mahmoud Davutoglu stated that his country was ready to join any operation against Syria. According to the head of the foreign ministry, Turkey can take such a step as part of a coalition of large countries.


        After that, the Turkish army began maneuvers in the area of ​​the border with Syria. Experts say that in the near future new troops may appear in the southeastern regions of the country. Turkey acts like an American LESBIAN.
    2. 0
      4 September 2013 19: 33
      a52333 RU Today, 13: 06

      Maybe at the summit it will be possible to delay or dissuade Babam. I’m trying to pass the wish out as valid. Well, what if. request Everything was unsure enough about the congress. Let's hope.

      Well, it’s unlikely that even Putin will succeed.
      The Americans will not miss their own, but what will be longer, this is already interesting.
  2. +10
    4 September 2013 13: 07
    Obama is at a crossroads now, but there is little that depends on him. He is just a doll, deprived of the right to independent actions hi Whatever decision he made: to attack or to retreat, waves of criticism will fall upon him alone ...
    1. +12
      4 September 2013 13: 51
      hi

      P. Indos, damn it, someday, play out with his shit.mocracy



      and the song will become ... prophetic...
    2. +4
      4 September 2013 13: 56
      Quote: seasoned
      Whatever decision he made: to attack or to retreat, waves of criticism will fall upon him alone ...

      Or maybe on the contrary, retreating, he will be considered the first adequate president in history to hear it ... in the event of an attack he will not stand out from the total gray mass of puppet prezs ..
      1. +4
        4 September 2013 16: 06
        I don’t know what it’s connected with, but in our city today they say there were educational alarms in schools, and the other day they promise to test the citywide warning systems about h. Coincidence however.
  3. KCC
    KCC
    +5
    4 September 2013 13: 11
    There is little hope for the US parliament, but I want to hope that there will be no war
  4. +9
    4 September 2013 13: 11
    "On September 1, a military expert confirmed in an interview with Al Manar TV that the reason for President Obama's delay in attacking Syria is not that he is supposedly waiting for Congress. The reason is that Syria destroyed an American plane on August 31, but also four Tomahawk missiles.

    A US military plane crashed near the Syrian-Jordanian border. Missiles fell into the sea.

    The news about the F-31 Raptor downed on August 22 was reported by the American newspaper "Los Angeles Times". The newspaper also reported that on August 30, Syrian air defense shot down 4 American Tomahawk missiles. They were shot down by the Russian Pantsir-1 anti-missile system. These are Russian anti-aircraft missiles that destroyed the American missiles. Sources of the newspaper believe that the Pentagon fired four missiles in order, according to the Los Angeles Times, "to feel the Syrian pulse."

    According to the newspaper, the loss of a modern F-22 aircraft in northern Jordan, where five F-22s are located, is the main reason for the delay in aggression against Syria.

    The Oklahoma Post reported, citing US military sources, that an F-22 Raptor crashed north of Jordan.

    Military expert John Blue Reed told the newspaper that Syria has not just C-300, but modernized C-300 systems. He does not exclude that this is C-400.

    What they say on the Syrian streets ...

    Residents of the Syrian city of Tartus confirmed that they heard 30 on August afternoon, the roar of three aircraft. One aircraft was MiG-23 others - MiG-29, which headed towards the American aircraft, seen near the territorial Syrian waters.

    US planes were about 20 km from the coastal border. Any of them could suddenly penetrate into the airspace of Syria. But when the Syrian planes began to approach them, the Americans turned and went towards the sea.

    1 of September repeated the same episode at 10 of the morning.

    “Our sky is only for us,” the Syrians convey. “Our sky is closed to enemies!”

    Please remember the time - September 1, ten o'clock in the morning, Syrian time. American planes are looking for a hole in the Syrian air defense system and ... do not find it. "

    Did I miss something? According to "our" media, it seems like this was not broadcast ...
    1. +8
      4 September 2013 13: 14
      Quote: Boris55
      The reason is that on August 31, Syria destroyed an American aircraft as well as four Tomahawk missiles.

      You are not tired of posting this duck. It has long been clear to everyone that someone was simply "showing off" in the wake of the situation around Syria. You can, of course, repeat like a mantra, but this will not reduce America's planes and CD
      1. +3
        4 September 2013 13: 18
        So I ask, really or not.

        Is this a duck too?
        Russian military experts are already in Syria. They train four C-300 divisions for combat
        http://politikus.ru/events/6111-rossiyskie-voenspecy-uzhe-v-sirii-oni-gotovyat-c
        hetyre-diviziona-s-300-k-boevoy-rabote.html
        1. +4
          4 September 2013 14: 07
          In peacetime, the training procedure took place in Russia at the higher educational institutions after, arranging at a firing range (there were a large number of missiles allocated for this business), after receiving equipment at the place of deployment and being on duty with local crews, I can’t say how training can take place.
          But in any case, you need at least a year.
        2. +4
          4 September 2013 14: 58
          Quote: Boris55
          Russian military experts are already in Syria. They train four C-300 divisions for combat

          Unfortunately, just the opposite:
          Russia supplies components to Syria on S-300 complexes according to contracts, but deliveries are suspended. This was announced by President Vladimir Putin in an interview with the Associated Press and Channel One on the eve of the G20 summit in St. Petersburg.
          I honestly do not understand such a position, that Iran is small, and Syria will also sue us for disruption of supplies. And in this situation, it may turn out that there is simply no one left to supply the remaining components .. although no one will sue ... Does our leadership really think so .. I don’t want to believe it ..
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      2. +1
        4 September 2013 14: 38
        Quote: seasoned
        It has long been clear to everyone that someone was simply "showing off" in the wake of the situation around Syria.

        I agree, because the first thought that arises in this case is where is the board number of the downed plane, or at least some identification information, the emblem of a regiment or an air wing, etc. As long as there is no body, as they say there is no business.
      3. Che
        Che
        +1
        4 September 2013 18: 47
        Quote: seasoned
        It’s possible, of course, how to repeat the mantra, but from this America’s planes and KR will not be less


        So at least change your mind to get into these business offspring.
    2. +3
      4 September 2013 13: 30
      There is no official confirmation of information about the defeat of the Tomahawks and F-22 by the Syrian air defense.
      The only official information from the American ship was missile launches, which were destroyed by Israel as part of a joint exercise. These data are confirmed by the interception of our radars in my opinion in Armavir.
      1. eplewke
        +5
        4 September 2013 13: 46
        it may be true. But I do not think so. S-400 in Syria ??? this is nonsense and a duck ... But a couple of the S-300 division of the penultimate modification probably are ... In principle, they can shoot down a raptor ... But vryatli I think that the Americans sent an expensive secret stealth to "probe" the air defense ...
        1. +2
          4 September 2013 13: 59
          A pair of air defense missile systems alone is very limited in capabilities, only as part of several regiments (groups), they can establish a more or less reliable defense of air borders.
        2. +3
          4 September 2013 14: 16
          Quote: eplewke
          Principle and they can bring down a raptor

          this "iron", as well as any other, can be knocked down by the S-25 and the Needle and the Arrow and the Stinger, but even with a properly thrown cobblestone.
          The main thing is "illumination", electronic warfare, avionics and the presence of the target itself.
          Quote: eplewke
          But vryatli I think that the Americans sent an expensive secret stealth to "probe" the air defense ...

          This is written in the media about probing.
          But in fact, everything happens to its full height there.
          Try to sort grains and chaff. hi
  5. +7
    4 September 2013 13: 11
    what to discuss then? these "arbiters of destinies" have already decided everything, and, apparently, a year and a half ago. and now we are watching a performance with one actor. the rest of the troupe scattered, there was only one prompter (so I want to rhyme, it's a pity, the site rules do not allow) in the person of the paddling pool
    1. Kasyanov Sergey
      +2
      4 September 2013 17: 54
      I agree with you 100%. I have long understood that this is simply a plan to overthrow the Assad regime, the same has already been implemented in a number of other countries. Everything is simple:
      -to arrange riots;
      -run the militants;
      -to finish;
      - establish control.
  6. +1
    4 September 2013 14: 01
    Obama drove himself into a corner, or the one who writes the texts to him decided to substitute him
    1. +7
      4 September 2013 14: 04
      The scoundrel and the two-faced Kerry dines with B. Assad.
      1. RUSSIA 2013
        +5
        4 September 2013 14: 27
        Yes, they are still liars, let’s recall Libya, Gaddafi gave Sarkozy a loan for the election program, and got a knife in the back. In a word, a double standards politician.
        1. 0
          5 September 2013 14: 16
          You must carefully choose your friends. So I would not want to have America in my friends. The cannibals will devour and not choke.
  7. mihasik
    +5
    4 September 2013 14: 21
    I think that everything will begin just during the summit. Thus, the United States will make it clear that they do not care about everything and everyone. And it will be a small revenge of GDP for Snowden.
    1. +3
      4 September 2013 14: 38
      I think the GDP has calculated this option and has a homework for this case.
  8. shyler
    +1
    4 September 2013 14: 30
    MOSCOW, September 4. The missile cruiser of the Black Sea Fleet "Moskva", nicknamed by NATO "the killer of aircraft carriers", instead of the previously planned call at the port of Mindelo (Cape Verde), is sent to the Eastern Mediterranean.
    Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2013/09/04/1171856.html
    1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
      +2
      4 September 2013 15: 31
      One against all!!! This is just a tough nut can, in the movie ,,,,
  9. +8
    4 September 2013 14: 41
    The war is on the verge of Russia and it seems to me that it is necessary to raise industry with all its might. Cut costs on everything that does not harm the population. It is necessary to return the Central Bank of Russia under the full control of the state. Enough to sponsor the United States and their Nazi actions! We say one thing, but in reality we sponsor killers. Hoping for peace is possible, but preparing for war is necessary! Serdyuk and the geisha team did a lot of harm to the detriment of Russia. It is necessary to correct, but there is almost no time.
    1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
      -4
      4 September 2013 15: 30
      It seems to me that it’s not very appropriate to advise the citizens of another country to tighten their belts. It’s not clear why, we mean we will, everything for the front is everything for victory, and you, dear gorilka, eat bacon? This is not good ....
      1. Bashkaus
        +1
        4 September 2013 20: 08
        A month ago, I went to Kiev to see my wife’s relatives, by the way my wife is a Ukrainian citizen, and so, when I wrote articles for articles while in Kiev, they automatically came out under the flag of Ukraine, although I myself am a citizen of the Russian Federation. So I would recommend that you judge people not by the flags on the avatar, but by the statements. Although I also admit that some time ago, the forum participants themselves asked admins that the flag would automatically show the country from which the message was being written, if only to understand whether the Russians, or specially hired people, really wanted to bomb the Kremlin and demolish the furious Putin regime. sitting trolls in fashionington
  10. +3
    4 September 2013 15: 27
    I think Congress will vote FOR.
    Judging by their vote for the "Magnitsky law" in the American Congress, there are only shortcomings ... ki who do not think about the future at all, but think only about "who else would spit on a plate for fun" - because life is boring , and there is very little entertainment.
  11. oleg bags
    0
    4 September 2013 15: 58
    I am Oleg Meshkov.
    1966 gr. Russian. Not married. Higher education.
    I live: 394006. Russia, Voronezh, st. 5th of December. D 17.
    T + 7 (920) 2197666; +7 473 2774154
    Email: [email protected] or [email protected]. The full text of 300 pages is at http://place.rusfolder.net/files/35071906
    The purpose of my appeal is to spread the truth about our reality among people around the world. You will not read this truth in the newspapers, you will not see it on television, and it is unlikely that you will find anything like that anywhere on the Internet.
    This truth is hidden in every possible way from us by those who divide and deceive us, gradually weaken us and quietly turn us into powerless slaves. Many of us do not feel this, and consider everything that is happening the norm. At the same time, they think that it has always been so. Until they themselves face a terrible manifestation of lies and slavery.
    "There is no slavery more hopeless than the slavery of those slaves who consider themselves free from fetters"
    This statement by Goethe is very suitable for the worldview imposed on us.
  12. +2
    4 September 2013 16: 01
    If the US Congress really gives Obama 60 + 30 days, it's called a war. Considering that Russia is pulling its fleet to Syria, why shouldn't Syria be the first to be the first - they declared war "de facto" - Russia will insure (after all, our fleet not only can but must defend itself).
  13. +5
    4 September 2013 16: 11
    Obama has NO hesitation - this is the position of Israeli lobbyists and representatives of the military-industrial complex in Congress! The agreement of Congress is necessary for him only to cover his own ass - you never know what.
    In a speech to representatives of Congress, he said that the United States will not allow anyone to violate the rules of international law. This is where the question arises: - "Who delegated this right to them? In fact, it turns out that, despite the position taken by the UN and the European Union, the United States, in the current situation, considers itself the sole bearer of international law."
    Perhaps this is precisely what should be at the forefront of the issue, both at the UN and at the meeting of the twenty.
  14. 0
    4 September 2013 16: 41
    Quote: oleg bags
    I am Oleg Meshkov.
    1966 gr. Russian. Not married. Higher education.
    I live: 394006. Russia, Voronezh, st. 5th of December. D 17.
    T + 7 (920) 2197666; +7 473 2774154
    Email: [email protected] or [email protected]. The full text of 300 pages is at http://place.rusfolder.net/files/35071906
    The purpose of my appeal is to spread the truth about our reality among people around the world. You will not read this truth in the newspapers, you will not see it on television, and it is unlikely that you will find anything like that anywhere on the Internet.
    This truth is hidden in every possible way from us by those who divide and deceive us, gradually weaken us and quietly turn us into powerless slaves. Many of us do not feel this, and consider everything that is happening the norm. At the same time, they think that it has always been so. Until they themselves face a terrible manifestation of lies and slavery.
    "There is no slavery more hopeless than the slavery of those slaves who consider themselves free from fetters"
    This statement by Goethe is very suitable for the worldview imposed on us.

    Good afternoon, dear troll and deceiver "Sergei"!

    Why on earth are you here on the patriotic website of VO turning your profitable business by VISITING the sites of your REPAIRS ?!
    Let me advise you not to do such "business jokes" in the future.
    =========================

    Dear SysAdmin!

    Please check these links from this KOMMERSANT and take measures against "stuffing" links from any "merchants".

    Thanks in advance, Michael.
  15. 0
    4 September 2013 17: 12
    Can they still agree? Life goes on!
  16. +4
    4 September 2013 17: 33
    Russia supplies components to Syria on S-300 complexes according to contracts, but deliveries are suspended. This was announced by President Vladimir Putin in an interview with the Associated Press and Channel One on the eve of the G20 summit in St. Petersburg.

    Previously, there was a message about the suspension of arms supplies to Syria due to financial difficulties on the Syrian side. In general, it is clear that the contract is partially fulfilled, but something was not delivered. And who knows, maybe a couple of fuel trucks from support equipment, or some shnag, were missing there.
    1. Bashkaus
      +1
      4 September 2013 20: 18
      Well, golden words, I also discussed this topic with my partner at work today. It is necessary to read between the lines.
      1, let's start with the fact that today Volodya, in fact, for the first time publicly announced that the C300 is still being delivered to Syria and that there is something there.
      2-the question really arises, what is put and what is not. If several divisions (regiment) are delivered there, but by some ridiculous accident Vasya forgot to put an adjustable wrench in the repair kit, then this is a really unpleasant incident and the Syrian side will not in any way sign the acceptance certificate, but given the aggravated situation at the "Russian Post" which has been working lately oh, how slowly, you can wait for this key for a long time, during this time the contract itself can be revised by making "additions" to it
  17. 0
    4 September 2013 18: 36
    Oh Americans !!! Well you so crap crap? You are a great power, and have sunk to a level below the waterline! God will not forgive you !!!
  18. 0
    4 September 2013 20: 00
    Quote: DEfindER
    Quote: Boris55
    Russian military experts are already in Syria. They train four C-300 divisions for combat

    Unfortunately, just the opposite:
    Russia supplies components to Syria on S-300 complexes according to contracts, but deliveries are suspended. This was announced by President Vladimir Putin in an interview with the Associated Press and Channel One on the eve of the G20 summit in St. Petersburg.
    I honestly do not understand such a position, that Iran is small, and Syria will also sue us for disruption of supplies. And in this situation, it may turn out that there is simply no one left to supply the remaining components .. although no one will sue ... Does our leadership really think so .. I don’t want to believe it ..

    The specialists have been there for a long time and now there is misinformation from both the mattresses and the Russian side, the enemy must be confused in three pines, and here someone’s playing cat and mouse
  19. +1
    4 September 2013 20: 30
    If Congress supports the president’s decision, it will gain a greater degree of political legitimacy.

    What political legitimacy are we talking about?
    Only the UN Security Council can give political legitimacy to the use of force against a sovereign state.
  20. +2
    4 September 2013 23: 03
    I agree with my colleagues above: VVP is able to talk ... "... supplies of S-300 are suspended ..." and you won't catch it by his tongue, and what has been delivered and what has not been delivered will not be explained.
    something it seems to me that P. indosov is waiting for a surprise. and they guess about it. and sigh. know that you can do it all over the world. Well, let's see, it seems there is not much time to wait.
  21. 0
    5 September 2013 10: 00
    Quote: Aspeed
    Yes, by the way, I completely forgot - but what do we have from the submarines on duty in the area? They also know how to let, if that. And just for aircraft carriers.


    Who will tell you))))