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Results of MAKS-2013 in the sphere of military-technical cooperation: contracts, agreements and memorandums with seven countries were signed

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Results of MAKS-2013 in the sphere of military-technical cooperation: contracts, agreements and memorandums with seven countries were signed

In the course of the MAKS-2013 air show, it was officially announced that it had signed contracts, agreements and memorandums on military-technical cooperation with seven countries: India, Italy, Cameroon, Slovakia, Poland, France and South Africa.


Perhaps contracts, agreements and intentions were signed more, and information about them will appear later. Listed below are only those that are currently officially announced.

India

In the framework of MAKS-2013, RSK MiG entered into two additional agreements with Basant Aerospace Privet Limited (India) for a total of $ 55 million under the General Offset Contract with the Air Force of the Republic of India, the press service of RSK MiG reported.

Basant Aerospace Privet Limited is a partner of OJSC RAC MiG on offset.

The first contract for the amount of 43 million dollars provides for the creation in India of a service center for the refurbishment of on-board radar stations (BRLS) Zhuk-ME produced by Fazotron-NIIR.

The second contract for the sum of 12 million dollars provides for the creation in India of a service center for the repair of equipment of upgraded MiG-29UPG type aircraft.

According to Sergey Korotkov, General Director of RAC MiG OJSC, “the signing of contract documents was the result of the coordinated work of MiG Corporation and Basant Aerospace Privet Limited, which joined forces in order to achieve a high level of operation and combat readiness of MiG fighters.

The task of the service centers being created will be to maintain the health of the Zhuk-ME radar and the systems of MiG-29UPG and MiG-29К / KUB aircraft by means of reconditioning and consulting services to the engineering staff.

The result of the centers will be:

- reducing the cost of operating the aircraft by reducing the revolving stock of spare parts and transportation costs;

- increasing the level of serviceability of the aircraft fleet due to timely repair of systems, products and units;

- improving the level of flight safety through advanced training of service personnel.

It is planned that the next stage of work will be the creation of a consignment stock of spare parts, which will quickly supply the necessary property to maintain the MiG aircraft fleet in good condition, according to a press release from RAC MiG.

Italy

Rosoboronexport at MAKS-2013 signed a package of five agreements with military and dual-use manufacturing companies: the British branch of the Italian manufacturer of aviation electronics, Selex Electronics System a Finmeccanica, by Selex Electronics System Ltd and the Italian company OMA SUD SpA

According to the press service of the Russian special exporter, the two agreements signed by Rosoboronexport with Selex Electronics System Ltd within the framework of the Integrated Diagnostic Centers project are aimed at ensuring proper operation of the Be-200 and An-140 aircraft planned for export to third countries 100, equipped with radio-electronic complexes manufactured by Selex Electronics System SpA and Finmeccanica.

The third agreement signed by the parties in the framework of the same project concerns the supply to third countries of the ground Topaz-M flight information processing complex manufactured by NPP TOPAZ.

The start of the international project "Integrated Diagnostic Centers" was given in 2012 year. Today, the main task of its implementation is to create an interaction mechanism that is optimal for all participants.

The fourth agreement on the joint production of the new modification of the amphibian Be-103, intended for special purpose units, was signed between Rosoboronexport, Selex Electronics System SpA a Finmeccanica and OMA SUD SpA

The fifth agreement was signed between Rosoboronexport and OMA SUD SpA. The agreement aims to create conditions for the joint production of new light amphibious aircraft (in the passenger version up to 112) based on the Be-20 aircraft, as well as to perform other patrols including humanitarian tasks.

“The signed agreements are aimed at joint creation and promotion of the newest aviation complexes that meet the requirements of potential customers, including the issue of improving machines throughout their entire life cycle, - said Deputy General Director of Rosoboronexport Alexander Mikheev. “These aircraft will be especially in demand by states with long sea borders and“ problem ”waters."

Cameroon

Rosoboronexport at the MAKS-2013 air show signed a contract with the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Cameroon for the supply of Mi-17 type helicopters, the press service of the Russian special exporter said.

On the Russian side, the contract was signed by Rosoboronexport general director Anatoly Isaikin, from the Cameroonian side, the country's defense minister Edgar Alain Mebe Ngo'o.

“This is the first contract of military-technical cooperation concluded between Russia and Cameroon. This is a new country for us and we look forward to the successful development of the cooperation that started today, ”said A.Isaykin.

Quantitative and cost parameters of the contract are not reported.

The development of military-technical cooperation with African states is one of the priorities in the marketing policy of Rosoboronexport. In particular, over the past year, ties have been resumed with Botswana, Ghana and Equatorial Guinea.

Beginning with 2000, the export of Russian helicopter technology has been growing at a steady pace. In 2001, the Rosoboronexport line delivered overseas 12 helicopters to foreign customers, and in the plan for 2013 their year was already over 130 units. It is expected that the supply of helicopters in the current year, compared with 2012 year, will grow by more than 20%.

Slovakia

As part of the MAKS-2013 air show, RSK MiG entered into two contracts with the Slovak side under the post-sales support program for the operation of MiG-29 airplanes for the Slovak Air Force.

As the press service of RAC MiG OJSC reports, the contracts provide for the repair and revision of the aircraft’s radar systems, as well as the provision of control and recovery work on aviation equipment manufactured by RAC MiG OJSC.

Sergei Korotkov, General Director of RAC MiG OJSC, noted that the implementation of the signed contracts will significantly improve the performance of the MiG-29 aircraft of the Slovak Air Force. “MiG Corporation is aimed at long-term joint work with Slovak partners,” the head of RAC “MiG” emphasized.

Poland

At the MAKS-2013 air show, the Urals Optical and Mechanical Plant (UOMZ), within the framework of long-term cooperation, has signed a contract with its Polish partner - the WZL aviation plant No. 2.

The agreement provides for the modernization and repair of the optical-electronic systems of MiG-29 airplanes in service with the Air Force of the Republic of Poland.

France

Within the framework of MAKS-2013, the holding company High-Precision Complexes and the French group Safran (Safran) concluded a memorandum of understanding on cooperation in the field of optical-electronic equipment.

According to the press service of the holding, the document was signed by the CEO of High-Precision Complexes, Alexander Denisov, and the chairman, chief executive officer of Safran, Jean-Paul Erteman.

“The memorandum confirms the trust of“ High-precision complexes ”to the thermal imagers manufactured by Sazhem (part of the Safran group) and provides the possibility of placing further orders for their delivery starting this fall,” said A. Denisov after the signing ceremony.

The partnership between “Safran” and the holding “High-Precision Complexes” has been developing for more than ten years in the framework of cooperation of their divisions - “Sazhem” and the Tula Instrument Design Bureau (KBP).

South Africa

As part of MASK-2013, Rostec State Corporation and the Denel Group of Companies (South Africa) signed a memorandum of understanding. It provides for the development of cooperation in the military-technical sphere, including through the organization of joint development, exchange of experience, information and technology.

According to the press service of Rostec, the document was signed by Deputy Director General of Rostec Dmitry Shugaev and member of the Board of Directors of Denel Gandhi Badel. The agreement was signed in the presence of the Permanent Secretary - Deputy Minister of Defense of the Republic of South Africa Sam Gulebe.

“It is especially pleasant that Rostec has signed this memorandum with one of the partners in the BRICS block, within which the corporation is ready to implement both bilateral and multilateral projects,” said Deputy Director General of Rostec Dmitry Shugaev. “We are already successfully cooperating with one of the divisions of Denel, Denel Aviation, and we are confident that the further development of cooperation will only benefit both parties. The signed document opens up very good prospects for the implementation of specific projects on mutually beneficial conditions in the defense industry. ”

The memorandum provides for the creation of a joint working group that will develop specific projects, coordinate the implementation of these projects and monitor the fulfillment of the obligations undertaken by the parties. The document is designed for one year, its duration may be extended with the mutual consent of the parties.

The main areas of cooperation in it are the exchange of experience, best practices, advanced technologies and information; joint development, production and modernization of weapons systems and military equipment; sale of weapons and military equipment produced under joint programs to a third party.

The start of cooperation between Rostec and Denel was laid in September 2012. Then, at the exhibition in Pretoria, the largest South African manufacturer of military equipment, Denel Aviation, part of Denel, signed an agreement with Russian Helicopters in Rostec to create a regional service center for servicing Russian helicopters in the African region . The center was opened in March 2013 year in Johannesburg.

At the international air show in Le Bourget-2013, Oboronprom and Denel Aviation Company signed a contract to expand the capabilities of the service center for the maintenance, repair and upgrading of Mi-8 / 17 helicopters established in South Africa. The parties agreed to significantly expand the functionality of the service center. It will carry out not only comprehensive maintenance, but also complex repairs and upgrades of civil and military Mi-8 / 17 helicopters.
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  1. a52333
    a52333 2 September 2013 15: 16 New
    +3
    Something in the photo of DAM looks at the photo unhappy! Ile not happy? angry
    1. experienced
      experienced 2 September 2013 15: 20 New
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      Quote: a52333
      Something in the photo of DAM looks at the photo unhappy! Ile not happy?

      The iPhone is discharged, so it misses "without work" wassat
      1. S-200
        S-200 2 September 2013 15: 49 New
        +2
        "tweet" hands itch, and "no way" - the service of the sovereign! .. wassat
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 2 September 2013 16: 57 New
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        Perhaps more contracts, agreements and intentions have been signed, and information about them will appear later.


        I am pleased with the other, the largest customers are domestic. UTair (9 SSJ-100 for $ 217,2 million in leasing), Ilyushin finance (firm contract for the supply of 20 SSJ-100) and Rosoboronexport (SSJ-100 VIP version). In addition, VEB Leasing has agreed to purchase 30 MC-21-300 aircraft from Irkut for a total of $ 2,5 billion.

        Smaller Ukraine - Ukrainian Antonov State Enterprise has received firm orders for several An-158 and An-148 aircraft in the amount of about $ 100 million.

        Well, and the organization of the air show, as always, is “on top”. In a nutshell, everything remained the same - and fools and roads. After the show, it started to rain, and to the station people with children walked in the rain, because there was no transport. Well at least apologized
        1. VAF
          VAF 2 September 2013 17: 30 New
          +6
          Quote: Vadivak
          I'm happy with another


          Vadim, welcome! Only now I wrote a comment about the "joy" and did not miss because of the volume, but it is a pity, but to rewrite laziness.
          Therefore, in short, this is all a hat for the "people", which shatters everything. "

          OFFSET CONTRACT is that we have to take 55 lyam greens from the amount of the first contract for aircraft and build everything in India on them .. so this is MINUS and not a plus.
          Well, then there all countries have exactly the same picture — we are buying, we are asking, we are signing agreements and memoranda.
          Yes, and even organize a repair network in South Africa!
          Well done, what to say! wassat
          1. experienced
            experienced 2 September 2013 17: 33 New
            +2
            Quote: vaf
            Therefore, in short, this is all a hat for the "people", which shatters everything. "

            And all this just in order to "vparivat" Superfood? belay
            1. VAF
              VAF 2 September 2013 17: 42 New
              +3
              Quote: seasoned
              And all this just in order to "vparivat" Superfood?


              Hi Lesha! He wrote the first koment that didn’t fit in just for you and everything was there, and now repeat it. I’ve already been tortured.

              Of course not. There, under the namesake svp67 already wrote .. the most important thing is to create a joint venture, with all that it implies and .. "master".
              I especially liked the article fellow -With Italians .... m .. there’s little stepping on a rake .. still necessary, but why not .. how many of our next millionaires wassat
              So ... all together .. the main MEMORANDUM, and then ... "Horns and hooves", everything is like O. Bender, though now he probably howls with white envy .. make it so simple!

              Well, about the Slovaks and the Papuans .. it's a song .... a bad loan .. a well-honed scheme, that's just the question, but what does VEB take from ROSOBORONEXPORT to secure these loans? wassat

              For Super-duper I know ... UAC shares, yes, yes .. it’s UAC and not GSS .. because there is nothing to take from them, acre of debts.
              Okay, I won’t go on, otherwise you can .. "agree" wassat After all, not the 37th year is only for .. the chosen wink
              1. experienced
                experienced 2 September 2013 17: 49 New
                +3
                Hello Seryoz hi
                Quote: vaf
                .There below the namesake svp67 already wrote .. the most important thing is to create a joint venture, with all that it implies and .. "master".

                Joint ventures are good for money laundering, no audit will figure out who paid what services (work) to anyone and where the money went. Considering that the money is budgetary and not the owner’s money, it looks rather strange at all ... However, Iveco has passed, so they are on the beaten track. With the same Mistrals, it’s also not clear, there is a contract, but it’s not clear what they bought, either Zenith and the barge with her, or even a bare barge, but for a lot of money. However, today I read that Vasiliev is under control and all her movements are tracked and reported immediately to the next. Wouldn’t it be easier to track her in Lefortovo’s cell? fool
                However, you are right, we are not the 37th for some
                Well, bad loans are our everything, but we are in the first place in the sale of weapons recourse Today, the Cabinet of Ministers of the island states swam greenery with a sweeping gesture. The flood itself is in the Far East, and we give money to some islanders ...
                1. VAF
                  VAF 2 September 2013 18: 11 New
                  +3
                  Quote: seasoned
                  and we give some kind of islanders money.


                  Legacy, so to speak ... or the power of habit? lol
                  Now I’ll return to Vadim’s koment .. there about .. leasing ... it’s very interesting, though if I don’t "release" it again, I won’t rewrite it!
                  1. experienced
                    experienced 2 September 2013 18: 14 New
                    +3
                    Quote: vaf
                    Now I’ll return to Vadim’s koment .. there about .. leasing ... it’s very interesting, though if I don’t "release" it again, I won’t rewrite it!

                    Sergey, before clicking on the “Add” button, first copy the entire comment and if it doesn’t interrupt, break it into two comments hi
            2. Geisenberg
              Geisenberg 3 September 2013 04: 13 New
              0
              Quote: seasoned
              Quote: vaf
              Therefore, in short, this is all a hat for the "people", which shatters everything. "

              And all this just in order to "vparivat" Superfood? belay


              Yes burnt with him great. Money rushed into him, utter words for him. Now, any measure that will help save investments goes like a breakthrough arrangement.
          2. APASUS
            APASUS 2 September 2013 19: 05 New
            +2
            Quote: vaf
            Therefore, in short, this is all a hat for the "people", which shatters everything. "

            That's it !
            Actually, we did not conclude a really significant contract, everything was closed on servicing the equipment sold earlier! And part of the contracts is generally a protocol of intent (in general, the hat does not oblige you to do anything).
            So gentlemen, entrepreneurs draw conclusions! Here you have -
        2. VAF
          VAF 2 September 2013 18: 38 New
          +7
          Quote: Vadivak
          I am pleased with the other, the largest customers are domestic.

          I agree here, but not quite wink We omit the reason for the consent of the acquisition of Super-dupers "Yu.Teyr'om" bully it is not necessary ... bully

          Leasing is very good for everyone (except people, but more on that below).

          1. The factories are provided with orders, and the workers are paid a salary (pada its size. But this is not the point), some subcontractors work, why some? Yes, because all the main systems are “foreign”, and the money goes there, so we are developing the “foreign aviation industry.”
          2. Airlines earn on airplanes. Which are already there. there is a profit, plus when the aircraft is leased, its carrying value is considered in form 3, i.e. over time, it decreases many times faster than conventional depreciation and after 5-7 years, the residual value of the aircraft will be almost 0 .. next, understand?
          3. Leasing companies earn their gesheft on a percentage basis, plus they are the owners of the aircraft until the end of payments, I hope the scheme is clear, especially since the Leasing company pays only 80% of the cost of the aircraft to the factory or UAC, but the main customer pays 20% operator
          4. Banks earn on a loan issued by a leasing company.
          5. Well, where does the money come from near-state and semi-state banks, I hope everyone understands. (This is to the point that we are with you .. we are also participating).
          The good news is that at least some dibs from oil and gas go to our Aviaprom, while feeding a bunch of intermediaries, but this is the "feeder" SYSTEM wassat
          At the same time .. remember recently there was an article about "Bananas for airplanes", which 50% of members of the forum .. ruthlessly zamusnovany?
          I hope after reading my post they understand. what were categorically wrong?

          To be continued.....
          1. VAF
            VAF 2 September 2013 18: 41 New
            +4
            Quote: vaf
            To be continued.....


            Like in that movie .... "I, on the advice of friends ... bought a Moskvich car ... a new model" fellow

            So ... on the advice of an experienced ... now I copied it and here's the continuation:

            What profit allowance does Rosoboronexport “acquire” for itself VIP Super-duper? And on the MiG-35th suddenly the money was not enough?
            And Gazprom, exactly the same VIP? At the same time, "screaming" from the TV screens that "they have First place in the world and that they are .. public domain"? But at the same time, right there in July .. almost a ruble .. for a cubic meter of gas in the price up ???
            And if they suddenly want a yacht, like with Abromovich or a couple of clubs from the Premier League of the United Kingdom? As much as you can go to the general sponsors .. is it time already and become the owners?
            In general .. it is sad.
            Well, about the next promise (annual) about the purchase of the MS-21 aircraft, which is not there yet .. this is generally .. SONG!

            So out of the "air" and " fellow "and they attract the result of 12 lard greens, which in fact has practically NOTHING under it !!!

            And if you talk about the adult and according to the Russian Civil Legislation, then there are many Agreements, but CONTRACTS .. with a gulkin nose! soldier
            Regards,: drink
            1. sashka
              sashka 2 September 2013 18: 45 New
              +2
              Drink .. I’ve not seen you for ages. Hi..
              1. VAF
                VAF 2 September 2013 19: 10 New
                +2
                Quote: Sasha
                Drink .. I’ve not seen you for ages. Hi..


                Hi Sasha!, Yes, on a business trip was ... so it should have been another 10 days. but .. "situation" has become tense, so they returned earlier drinks
                1. sashka
                  sashka 2 September 2013 19: 17 New
                  +2
                  Quote: vaf
                  Hi Sasha!, Yes, on a business trip was ... so it should have been another 10 days. but .. "situation" has become tense, so they returned earlier drinks

                  Well, okay. He’s alive, healthy, and you don’t have to do it anymore .. You’re running around the World.
                  1. VAF
                    VAF 2 September 2013 21: 18 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Sasha
                    You’re running around the world. Do you bring in a reasonable form?


                    And what to do .. if this continues, then the Belarusians and Ukrainians will crush everything for themselves, because we have somehow been sold or delivered. and then .. although the grass does not grow, and then they are surprised. how is it all ours. and extend. extend. upgrade. train .. not ours request
                    And that’s all because ... therefore, they all “run away” from us (well, that's me, figuratively, but there is a tendency recourse )
                    1. Avenger711
                      Avenger711 2 September 2013 23: 00 New
                      -3
                      So you, it seems, also pay extra from Independent. Well then, definitely not surprising.
            2. Avenger711
              Avenger711 2 September 2013 22: 59 New
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              VIP SSJ costs a maximum of half the price of the MiG-35, enough already to disgrace. And apparently, it would be better if they bought another foreign An-148?

              Buying an airplane that is not yet a common practice. Modern design tools and industry maturity minimize technical risks. That would design a spaceship capable of delivering 20 people to Mars, then another thing. So your miserable attempt to howl hysterically about how bad everything is, is just another puncture that gives you the usual troll.
    2. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 2 September 2013 15: 20 New
      +2
      The agreement provides for the modernization and repair of the optical-electronic systems of MiG-29 airplanes in service with the Air Force of the Republic of Poland.


      DAMS just from this insert pschekof ouel laughing like so, Pshek and suddenly in the home-bred and drunken and drunkenly smashed Russia airplanes upgrade ... laughing apparently the world is crazy wassat
    3. Apollo
      Apollo 2 September 2013 16: 41 New
      +4
      Quote: a52333
      Something in the photo of DAM looks at the photo unhappy!


      and somewhere his portrait is confiscated. laughing
      Kirov bailiffs arrested portrait of Medvedev for debt laughing
      http://www.vz.ru/news/2013/9/2/648288.html
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 2 September 2013 17: 04 New
        +5
        Quote: Apollon
        Kirov bailiffs arrested a portrait of Medvedev


        What a damn value, but not this hour - the work of Picasso?
    4. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 3 September 2013 04: 10 New
      0
      Quote: a52333
      Something in the photo of DAM looks at the photo unhappy! Ile not happy? angry


      I see him as if he had his back there, not a little lower than his back on an awl;
  2. d1m1drol
    d1m1drol 2 September 2013 15: 16 New
    +1
    And what does Medvedev earn as a guard? laughing (on the background)
    1. a52333
      a52333 2 September 2013 15: 41 New
      0
      moonlighting as a guard?
      or a cleaning lady? Oh, and litter.
    2. Denis
      Denis 2 September 2013 17: 18 New
      +3
      Quote: d1m1drol
      And what does Medvedev earn as a guard?

      Maybe there wifi takes better .. yes
      1. d1m1drol
        d1m1drol 2 September 2013 21: 45 New
        +1
        MDA minus slapped me a hike laughing
  3. svp67
    svp67 2 September 2013 15: 17 New
    +1
    In general, an interesting trend is the main direction, this is not the planes themselves, but their equipment. Apparently soon it is worth waiting for the appearance of something new on our aircraft ...
    1. VAF
      VAF 2 September 2013 17: 34 New
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      In general, an interesting trend is the main direction, this is not the planes themselves, but their equipment.


      Seryozha, there’s just nothing interesting here, but everything is "well" forgotten old " wassat
      Everything is according to O. Bender .. "Horns and hooves."
      Always all the "grandmother" spinning "only on the" DEVELOPMENT ", and not in production.
      Therefore, another joint venture with Western partners is again going on ... to continue the "development" of Monaco and the Cote d'Azur.

      Quote: svp67
      Apparently soon it is worth waiting for the appearance of something new on our aircraft ...


      On Super-duper 80-85 percent appeared and .... wassat
      1. svp67
        svp67 2 September 2013 17: 39 New
        +2
        Quote: vaf
        On Super-duper 80-85 percent appeared and ...
        Well, in the end, the mass should turn into quality ... The “Reds” didn’t manage to do anything sensible for a long time, but then what kind of “jerk” is thanks to him and we are holding on ... I believe there will be progress for the better otherwise ... how to live.
        1. VAF
          VAF 2 September 2013 19: 15 New
          +3
          Quote: svp67
          Well, in the end, the mass should turn into quality ..


          Seryozha, I saw accounting calculations, though "statements", but from people directly related to the super-duper, so I’ve seen govryu.
          I will not be expressed in accounting terms. but from 30 lyam enclosed .. only ... 5 (!!!) belay
          Therefore, according to Pupkin's arithmetic, you can calculate it yourself ... how many CENTURIES are needed, that would .... at least return something!
          I do not pretend to the truth in the first instance, but ... what I saw, I saw, or maybe ... it seemed wink
      2. Avenger711
        Avenger711 2 September 2013 18: 19 New
        -1
        Just admit that SSJ is a successful project, regardless of your desire to see a cut everywhere.
        1. experienced
          experienced 2 September 2013 18: 22 New
          +4
          Quote: Avenger711
          Just admit that SSJ is a successful project, regardless of your desire to see a cut everywhere.

          And what is his success?
          Payback has not yet been foreseen, the queue of buyers (for real money) is also not visible. The fact that "for free" and sweet vinegar has long been known ...
          1. Avenger711
            Avenger711 2 September 2013 19: 11 New
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            Payback is achieved for a series of at least 500 cars. For reference, the ubiquitous Tu-154 was built less than 1000, or so, this is under the Tupolev monopoly on the Soviet market in this class. The market is busy with competitors, the parameters of the machines are close, but before MAKS there were already 150 firm contracts. Tu-334, zero contracts, An-148, which stubbornly presented as the "last hope of the Russian aviation industry", although this is a foreign car, simply does not have a certificate for rich markets and is sold only in Russia and those who are forbidden to take Boeings and it started 2 years earlier, already lagging behind the SSJ in the number of built.

            So you don’t have to shag your grandmother, until the SSJ makes a profit, it will take about 20 years for objective reasons, the KLA has no other sources of income in the form of sold mastered popular models and not only the 90s, but also the policy of Soviet civilian design bureaus are to blame, who weren’t kicked like the military, and when the market was opened for imports, they found themselves in the position of AvtoVAZ.
          2. VAF
            VAF 2 September 2013 19: 22 New
            +3
            Quote: seasoned
            Payback is not yet in sight


            Lesha, there’s one “activist” wrote “bunch” that "payback is achieved for a series of at least 500 cars", but about the fact that the GSS can hardly assemble 10 cars a year and does not plan to expand production capacities (it cannot due to well-known reasons), you can calculate it yourself ... "how many years will pass."
            At the same time, he is silent (well, this is due to ignorance and stupidity) that this is still an ordinary regional girl, and that in 2015 the 319NEO bus will “come” and “the Super-duper will fly like plywood, but not to Paris, but will visit .. over Paris ", but at the same time we will still be" singing songs "about the" breakthrough "plane ... that flies. through one place.
            To date, out of 18 flying 10 are .... in profitability! wassat
            1. experienced
              experienced 2 September 2013 19: 42 New
              +3
              Quote: vaf
              Lyosha, there one “leader” wrote “bunch” that “payback is achieved for a series of at least 500 cars,” but he does not plan to assemble 10 vehicles a year with difficulty and cannot expand production capacities (he cannot reasons), then you can calculate it yourself ... "how many years will pass."

              Bugaga, I can’t even laugh from this clown. I’m wondering who puts him a “+”? belay What is not commentary is a self-confident statement on any topic from childbirth in women and the propagation of hedgehogs to space travel and everything is self-confident in a pointing tone and arch-silly wassat
              1. Avenger711
                Avenger711 2 September 2013 23: 37 New
                0
                Do you know what is the funniest thing in this situation? That the whole country is ecstatic from the T-50, but from the Pogosyanovsky SSJ they somehow spit. Apparently AvtoVAZ syndrome and “our tanks are good” are difficult to cure. I would venture to suggest that considering SSJ to be unsuccessful, can you provide accurate criteria for success? Sorry, but I'm not sure about that.

                Here An-148 is definitely a corpse, there is no certificate in Europe, sell it to Cuba, to Iran, a couple of dozen to Russia, for all this.
                And as for the SSJ, do you know the exact numbers about the size of the market, the number of cars delivered, the contracts concluded, the estimated volumes of supplies? Do you know exactly how many planes you need to sell to recoup OCD? Do you know where the KLA invests? There is such a moment that if you invest a billion in a new infrastructure, it will pay off only after a few years. And again, if we wait until the existing investment pays off, we will not grab any noticeable market share, therefore the state is obliged to invest in aviation without expecting profit over the next couple of decades. Competitors also subsidize their concerns and lend in full.

                Nevertheless, the facts are such that the portfolio of orders for SSJ is very good, and he is just starting to live. Well, until he’s dead, it’s impossible to decide whether he lived happily or not.
            2. Avenger711
              Avenger711 2 September 2013 23: 10 New
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              GSS has already collected more than 2 cars in 20 years. On Aug 28 pedivikia suggests that 33 are collected. I think you know where to look at the lists. I don’t know what they have there with capacities, then I’ll honestly say that I don’t enter myself for the “ekperd” which is everything and everything, including the PAK FA program, and Poghosyan does not report to me.

              As for the operating machines, given the level of hysteria raised due to every minor breakdown associated with the SSJ, I venture to assume, and the silence in the media, it would be logical to assume that the aircraft, on the contrary, fly perfectly.
        2. sashka
          sashka 4 September 2013 11: 25 New
          +1
          Google it and find out what it consists of .. And it's better at the factory ..
  4. svp67
    svp67 2 September 2013 15: 18 New
    +1
    The fourth agreement on the joint production of the new modification of the amphibian Be-103, intended for special purpose units, was signed between Rosoboronexport, Selex Electronics System SpA a Finmeccanica and OMA SUD SpA
    There are some questions, equipment for special forces, but we attract foreigners ....
  5. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 2 September 2013 15: 36 New
    +6
    In general, it does not upset the fact that until they are delivered, say, Ka-52, Su-34, Su-35, but they sell relative products "consumer goods", and it is being delivered to our troops stably! That's right, here we will fully supply ourselves, and there you can push the "lite version" around the perimeter! There will be something newer on the way.
    1. Avenger711
      Avenger711 2 September 2013 18: 24 New
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      What do you mean do not go? Contracts for a bunch of cars signed. Everyone will hand over the party in November-December. And they will roll out one car at least every week, so you’ll be the first to take out what you do individually.
      And while you fully supply yourself, which, by the way, is unattainable, since a normal army has only 75-80% of modern technology, and the process of updating it is continuous, you can miss a lot, while non-military time and there is an opportunity for someone to do something vparit, it must vparivat, let them help us pay for OCD and the deployment of production.
  6. Natalia
    Natalia 2 September 2013 16: 19 New
    11
    By the way, our family went to the MAX this Saturday, it was cool ...
    I especially liked one of our pilots Svetlana Kapanina on an EXTRA-300 sports plane, which she was doing in the sky was just awesome .... but as she fell into a tailspin, I thought, well, everything will break right now, no ... it leveled off so sharply and again up, such somersaults .... well, you can’t say it with words and you won’t describe it with a pen .... they say that she did the same somersaults when she was five months pregnant, and in short in China they want to put up a monument to her.
    Here she is in the photo, it turns out we have first-class pilots, but I didn’t know ... acheume ...
    And this is what I understood during the arrival of MAKS 2013: it is necessary that women are urgently taken to the Air Force ... urgently ... Here are the Swifts and Russian Knights, this is generally a topic ...
    I saw another T-50 with my own eyes, it’s just achumeth it can do anything .... it is as maneuverable as the Su-35 (which, by the way, was controlled not by anyone, but by Sergei Bogdan, Hero of RUSSIA, Honored Test Pilot of the Russian Federation)
    .... in short there are no words, some emotions, positive emotions .....)))))
    1. VAF
      VAF 2 September 2013 19: 35 New
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      Quote: Natalia
      I especially liked our one pilot, Svetlana Kapanina, on an EXTRA-300 sports plane,


      Dear Natalia, this pilot, as you say, is a 7-time ABSOLUTE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP in aerobatics !!!!!!
      In the world no one has such achievements!
      As she is not called, the Russian Valkyrie and the Goddess of Heaven .... in all countries of the world she is revered as a hero and a legend!
      And we have .... and we have gas in our apartment, unfortunately.
      But because it is in the language. Like a pilot ... it cuts the truth of the womb. That of functionaries. That of government officials. howls and ...... that's it!
      And a person is just GOLD in every way! soldier
      1. il grand casino
        il grand casino 2 September 2013 20: 11 New
        +3
        "Sportswoman, Komsomol member and just a beauty!" I hope everyone remembers where the quote came from))
  7. Garrin
    Garrin 2 September 2013 16: 22 New
    +6
    Quote: Natalia
    Here she is in the photo, it turns out we have first-class pilots, but I didn’t know ... acheume ...

    We always have one of the best pilots in the world. DOSAF must be revived.
  8. horoh
    horoh 2 September 2013 16: 48 New
    0
    "IPhone reboots", this is clearly visible in the background winked
  9. saag
    saag 2 September 2013 16: 56 New
    +1
    "The Memorandum confirms the trust of High-Precision Complexes in the Sazhem thermal imagers (part of the Safran group) and provides the possibility of placing further orders for their delivery starting this fall," A. Denisov said after the signing ceremony. "
    But there is still no trust in matrix IKGSN ...
  10. Recon
    Recon 2 September 2013 17: 02 New
    +2
    The volume of contracts is growing year by year, and soon Le Bourget will fade.
  11. Zerstorer
    Zerstorer 2 September 2013 17: 28 New
    +2
    We have taken the contracts, now we are fulfilling it. And I would like without a postponement of deadlines.
  12. sashka
    sashka 2 September 2013 18: 57 New
    +1
    Do not dare to laugh at the "Premier" and the "President." I do not have much space on the floor. To laugh.
  13. shpuntik
    shpuntik 2 September 2013 19: 25 New
    +1
    Tu-144 in the US sold, they are testing it.
    In Germany, the museum stands.
    And, at our MAX, for what?
    They do not want to connect the Far East with the European part? Or expensive kerosene in an oil-producing country? request



    1. Apollo
      Apollo 2 September 2013 19: 40 New
      +2
      theme infographics
      1. shpuntik
        shpuntik 3 September 2013 03: 47 New
        +1
        Apollon AZ Yesterday, 19:40 ↑ New
        theme infographics

        Small, but you can make out :-)
        When the news began to talk about the total amount of contracts, it immediately became clear: something was wrong. So it is, judging by the infographic: 1) The SSJet order flies for 1,9 "lard" But for some reason he did not reduce the debit with the loan, he asks for state taxpayers money. Maybe in the end it will go to "zero".
        2) MS-21 is a beautiful myth for the electorate.
        3) Helicopters are a real product, with our saturation, in contrast to the SSD. But only 135 million
        4) Bombardier, a competitor of the Jet Jet, we buy 3,4 lard.
        Total: 3400-1900-135 =1365 million dollars. Russia in the red. Chtd.
        PS The sum from Super Jets needs to be multiplied by 0,25, since the equipment is 80% foreign. In my opinion, abroad it is equipped with PrattVitney engines.
    2. Avenger711
      Avenger711 2 September 2013 23: 20 New
      -1
      So expensive, actually, that the Concorde was bent over.
      1. shpuntik
        shpuntik 3 September 2013 03: 30 New
        +1
        Avenger711 (5) RU Yesterday, 23:20 PM ↑ New
        So expensive, actually, that the Concorde was bent over.

        yes http://www.amazon.com/Boeing-Versus-Airbus-International-Competition/dp/14000433


        60

        As for the Tu-144, everything has its own price. Affordable for businessmen, this would revive the business in the Far East. As an option: it was possible to subsidize fuel for some time, 5-10 years.
        We have IL-86, IL-62 bent, is it expensive? Boeing is cheaper, of course.
        In 2007, Aeroflot signed major contracts for the purchase of 22 Boeing B787 Dreamliner long-haul aircraft with deliveries starting in 2016 and 22 Airbus A350 airliners from 2018.
        Here it is confused, but close to understanding the situation: http://www.uznai-pravdu.ru/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=4658
        It’s not in vain that a barrel is rolled on Stalin:
  14. waisson
    waisson 2 September 2013 19: 59 New
    0
    Sioux 30SM
    Fighter
    60 aircraft ordered in the amount of 60 billion rubles. (excluding weapons)
    Su-34
    Bomber
    129 aircraft ordered in the amount of 182 billion rubles.
    Su-35
    Fighter
    48 aircraft were ordered for a total amount of 58 billion rubles.
    IL-76MD-90A
    transport airplane
    39 aircraft were ordered for a total amount of 139 billion rubles.
    Yak-130
    Training and combat aircraft
    67 aircraft were ordered for a total amount of 29,7 billion rubles.
    T-50
    The latest generation fighter
    Awarded for signing a contract for 52 aircraft
    MiG 29SMT
    Fighter
    A contract for 35 aircraft in the amount of 30 billion rubles is expected.
    MiG 35
    Fighter
    A contract for 37 aircraft in the amount of 40 billion rubles is expected.
    Ka-52
    120 helicopters ordered in the amount of 120 billion rubles.
    Mi-28
    97 helicopters were ordered for a total amount of 60 billion rubles.
    Mi-8 / Mi-17
    It is planned to order 400 helicopters in the amount of 120 billion rubles.
    1. VAF
      VAF 2 September 2013 20: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: waisson
      Ordered


      Dear, no one argues that it is ORDERED, but the MAX theme is discussed here, that the INTERNATIONAL Salon is translated and we would like to have INTERNATIONAL contracts, so that the money would come from BOGRA, and not be transferred from one pocket to another under the Agreements at home.
      And here are the amounts that you voiced firstly not all at once and .. are transferred, and secondly we discussed the TRANSACTIONS at MAX, and not at all what contracts were signed during the period of the Tandem!
      Sincerely.
      And about .. or a protocol of intent is expected. Memorandum, etc ... it's not from that opera!
      Yours faithfully, hi
      1. Avenger711
        Avenger711 2 September 2013 23: 19 New
        0
        You don’t know what to get to. The topic is just about foreign contracts, of which some are still unknown. A salon is just an excuse to consolidate what was discussed in advance. As well as the meeting of the presidents.
      2. sashka
        sashka 6 September 2013 19: 20 New
        0
        Quote: vaf
        memorandum of understanding, etc.

        A paper that does not promise or provides anything .. Just words written on paper ..
  15. stranik72
    stranik72 2 September 2013 20: 13 New
    -1
    "Ka-52
    120 helicopters ordered in the amount of 120 billion rubles. "
    I hope this is a joke about 120 pieces, who should I steal and for what purpose ?.
    And about the price, don’t dream “even”, our Air Force can’t afford it, and other foreign consumers do not need it at all, only as a gift. Kamovtsi, hello I read the report on the pilot operation in the Air Force, it’s hard to cheat the aviation world like a helicopter of a battlefield NOTHING.
    1. Avenger711
      Avenger711 2 September 2013 23: 17 New
      -1
      Not 120, but 140.
  16. Vtel
    Vtel 3 September 2013 09: 28 New
    0
    The main thing is that the Enti billions do not leak into the sand and spread out, but in general progress is growing.