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Draft resolution on Syria: irritation and misinformation

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On the eve of the United Kingdom in a closed meeting presented to the UN Security Council a draft resolution that would give the force option the "green" light. But Russia and China called it too harsh and sent it back for refinement - to the obvious irritation of the Americans and the British. Then there were even reports that the Russian and Chinese representatives allegedly left the meeting room in protest. But official sources have denied this information.


There was no demarche on the part of Russia and China at the meeting of the Security Council "five". There was misinformation that the permanent representatives from Moscow and Beijing allegedly left the meeting in protest against the draft British resolution on Syria.

“The Russian representative came out when the meeting ended. It was not a demarche. Just some delegations did not go out for a long time,” the Russian Federation’s permanent representative to the UN said.

According to sources, the draft resolution, essentially resolving a blow to Syria and the introduction of troops, was rejected by Moscow and Beijing, the document was sent back for revision. In Washington, do not hide irritation.

“The Russians hinder every effective step to curb the regime in Syria. They vetoed three draft resolutions, blocked many other decrees condemning the Syrian regime. But in our opinion, the regime will not be able to hide behind Russia's back for a long time. We will make our own decision on the necessary actions ", - promised the US State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf.

What actions it will be, we can assume now. “Difficulties may arise in relations between Russia and the United States if countries decide to act in circumvention of the UN Security Council. Washington, London, Paris see that there is no progress because of Russia's position in the Security Council,” Stephen Peifer, director of the Center for Arms Control Brookings.

To bypass means to violate international law. Western allies nevertheless believe that they can sometimes be neglected. “No legitimization of strikes is needed. This can be done through NATO structures or other organizations. And it will be as legitimate as the operation in Kosovo was without the approval of the Security Council,” said Angela Stant, member of the US National Intelligence Council in 2004-2006.

Suddenly London reduced the degree of rhetoric slightly. Prime Minister Cameron, said that we must wait for the findings of UN inspectors. The change of mood may be due to the fact that the opposition in parliament reminded the prime minister of the invasion of Iraq on a false matter - weapon mass destruction there was not found.

Hesitates and Obama. "I have not yet made a decision. I took note of the opinion of our military and actively consulted with my national security advisers," the head of the White House said.

In an open letter to Obama, Speaker Bonner hurries the lower house. Like, so what's up with Syria? What are the numbers on the countdown board? Days, hours, and maybe minutes, as some hotheads in Washington suggest? Few doubt that the mechanism is running.
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  1. klimpopov
    klimpopov 29 August 2013 10: 38 New
    20
    Ut has lowered the degree of rhetoric unexpectedly London. Prime Minister Cameron, said that we must wait for the findings of UN inspectors

    It can be seen that narcotics overlooks and the mind clears up.
    Damn can they all drink some water there.
    In an open letter to Obama, Speaker Bonner hurries the lower house. Like, so what's up with Syria? What are the numbers on the countdown board? Days, hours, and maybe minutes, as some hotheads in Washington suggest? Few doubt that the mechanism is running.

    Dolbosten, they don’t understand what they’ll play out, or rather they’ve already played out and the self-destruction mechanism has already been launched. All the same, really "well, dumb (s) Zadornov"
    1. bodriy
      bodriy 29 August 2013 10: 47 New
      +7
      Maybe a little off topic ... hi I watched today the news about CHYUBYSA and him, I came across the thought, what if I send the whole gang of super bureaucrats there, make Gorbachev’s commander’s platoon, Serdyuchka the company ... Vasilyeva the nurse, let the sins be repaid before the fatherland !!! laughing But seriously, all these congresses are a complete farce ... nothing new!
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 29 August 2013 10: 51 New
        +7
        Do not give Bage such a detachment, a detachment of death, they’ll betray and sell everyone and everyone, you’re a horrible executioner, my friend)))
      2. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 29 August 2013 11: 20 New
        +4
        Send this special team to the logistics service of NATO and the "friends of Syria." The stubbornness of Russia and China will become unnecessary. wassat
        NOT what will rattle.
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 29 August 2013 11: 29 New
          +3
          At the same time, the amers themselves will not be able to understand how it happened that there is nothing anymore wassat
          1. wax
            wax 29 August 2013 13: 17 New
            0
            At the same time, the amers themselves will not be able to understand how it happened that there is nothing anymore

            To the point (plus Israel and Turkey, with the artist Cameron).
      3. dmitrich
        dmitrich 29 August 2013 13: 30 New
        +1
        they will kill the company by stupidity.
      4. slvevg
        slvevg 29 August 2013 16: 39 New
        +1
        Gorbachev to make the commander of the platoon, Serduchka the company ... Vasilyev the nurse

        the idea is priceless in wartime, so to speak the political fine wassat
    2. Botanologist
      Botanologist 29 August 2013 10: 48 New
      +8
      Quote: klimpopov
      Damn can they all drink some water there.


      Water will not help. Kerosene is better.

      It amazes me - these ... do not just consider themselves to be full masters - they do not even consider it necessary to pull their bruised diplomats. Still, the world does not just smell like gunpowder - there is practically no hope that these oddballs will become normal. Not now - this is in a couple of years, but we will catch them seriously. I hope the leadership has the courage to proactively use nuclear weapons. Nafik to talk about international law, when they wipe their ass.
    3. S-200
      S-200 29 August 2013 10: 51 New
      +5
      Quote: klimpopov
      It can be seen that narcotics overlooks and the mind clears up.

      yes not ... - the point is played by the Aglitsky “example”!
      Tonya Blair was blown up in their court because the troops entered Iraq and the invaders didn’t find Sadramov’s vigorous bonba!
      1. afire
        afire 29 August 2013 11: 03 New
        +3
        these freaks will not fail and will oppress contrary to general opinions, even in the states themselves enough people have voiced the fact that the attack on Syria will hopelessly and wildly roar in the states themselves, as well as in other countries participating in this conspiracy.
        Ours - patience, Syria - strength, I wish you all peace ... mdaa already.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 29 August 2013 11: 03 New
        +2
        Quote: S-200
        Tonka Blair in their court

        Yes it was a show for the townsfolk there
        1. a52333
          a52333 29 August 2013 11: 18 New
          +3
          He, most likely, began to actively promote LGBT people after that. There were two reasons:
          a) liked
          b) wanted to share "happiness"
    4. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 August 2013 11: 02 New
      +3
      Quote: klimpopov
      Damn can they all drink some water there.

      Klim, you forgot that gay men refused to drink vodka in protest
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 29 August 2013 11: 04 New
        +4
        So not vodka, but water. They are rather weak for vodyari)))
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 29 August 2013 11: 24 New
          +3
          Quote: klimpopov
          So not vodka, but water

          Give them vinegar, that's the thing wink And finally crushed adversary
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 29 August 2013 12: 12 New
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Give them vinegar, that's the thing

            Sasha, I forgot the Russian proverb- "For free and vinegar does not acidify" wink so throughout the muzzle blue and not vinegar .. fellow
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 29 August 2013 12: 18 New
              +2
              Quote: Tersky
              Sasha, I forgot the Russian proverb- "For free and vinegar does not acidify

              Hi Vitya, let them get drunk - health good
              1. klimpopov
                klimpopov 29 August 2013 12: 21 New
                +2
                Not vinegar but essence, our 12y will help with vinegar)))
                1. Tersky
                  Tersky 29 August 2013 12: 55 New
                  +1
                  Quote: klimpopov
                  our 12s will help with vinegar)))

                  then let it reach its maximum power, given the growth of homosexuals in geometric progression in the world of essences, just the sea will be needed)))
        2. Tersky
          Tersky 29 August 2013 12: 15 New
          +2
          Quote: klimpopov
          They are rather weak for vodyari)))

          Klim, hello land! That's right, vodka is a drink of men, and where are men among gays ..
    5. Interface
      Interface 29 August 2013 11: 24 New
      +2
      Yesterday I turned on the First one, they say there, they say, no one went anywhere, everything passed the norms in the Security Council.
      I open Yandex ---- "" "The delegations of Russia and China left the Security Council meeting on Syria." ""

      I open further, read the sources: Al Jazeera.
      Everything immediately became clear to me. That's how it’s easy for us to misinform. But then they will say that "for the Syrian troubled Putin." I know for sure, they will say so.
      1. Retx
        Retx 29 August 2013 11: 28 New
        18
        open google, write in the search for Saudi Arabia, look to the right. Smile wink
        1. afire
          afire 29 August 2013 11: 58 New
          +2
          What does it mean laughing ... who tried ... nipanyayayatnaaa
        2. small
          small 29 August 2013 11: 59 New
          +4
          damn it, checked, it is.
          1. alexng
            alexng 29 August 2013 13: 04 New
            +2
            This is such a deraviator! bully
          2. kazssr
            kazssr 29 August 2013 14: 44 New
            +2
            laughing I didn’t believe the same thing, I opened it, damn it right laughing
        3. afire
          afire 29 August 2013 11: 59 New
          +2
          The head of the National Security Council (NSS) of Saudi Arabia, Bandar bin Sultan, in a conversation with Russian President Vladimir Putin, secretly threatened terrorist attacks at the Olympics in Sochi. This was written by The Telegraph.

          In particular, the representative of the Arab state said that "it guarantees the safety of the Sochi Winter Olympics next year." He also noted that "groups of Chechen fighters who express various threats to the Olympic Games are under our control."

          The Russian leader reminded the head of the NSS about the support of the Chechen separatists, which was provided by Saudi Arabia until the early 2000s. He emphasized that the words of Bandar bin Sultan clearly resonate with the common goals of the fight against terrorism.

          Recall that in early July this year, one of the leaders of the Islamic militants of the North Caucasus, Doku Umarov, circulated a message in which he called on his associates and subordinates to do everything possible to disrupt the Olympics.

          According to a British newspaper, during an informal meeting with Putin, the Saudi prince tried to use the “carrot” and “carrot” methods in an attempt to move Russia’s inflexible stance from the dead center.

          An alliance with OPEC was proposed as one of the incentive measures for the concession to the Kremlin, which, according to Bandar, will allow the Russian Federation to more effectively regulate prices and offers on the world oil market. The prince also promised not to impede the implementation of Russian projects regarding the supply of hydrocarbons in Europe and the Mediterranean region.

          In addition, the representative of Saudi Arabia assured that if Bashar al-Assad leaves, his country will help Russia maintain the Tartus naval base. According to him, a power scenario for Syria is already inevitable.

          In response, Putin said the Kremlin’s position “will never change.” “Russia believes that the Syrian authorities are the legitimate representative of the Syrian people, not gut eaters,” the Russian leader said.

          On August 28, the situation in the Arab country became the main topic of discussion at an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council. The United States, Britain, and France invited the remaining twelve members to vote in support of a resolution imposing responsibility for the use of chemical weapons on government troops. In response, Russian and Chinese diplomats staged a march, refusing to participate in the discussion.

          http://www.km.ru/world/2013/08/28/siriiskii-krizis/719449-saudovskaya-araviya-sk
          ryto-prigrozila-rossii-teraktami-na-o
        4. S-200
          S-200 29 August 2013 12: 21 New
          +3
          wassat they simply can’t read Russian!
          for a long time did not laugh! wassat laughing
          competent banter!
          PS obviously this is an innocent joke from the MOST main Jewish google expert ...
        5. d1m1drol
          d1m1drol 29 August 2013 13: 46 New
          +2
          Funny, real))
    6. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 29 August 2013 12: 18 New
      +1
      It seems to me that Obama is cowardly - if there is a chance of failure, then he will not take risks. Bush, for example, was ready for this, but that one had no brains.
      1. Sandov
        Sandov 29 August 2013 12: 42 New
        +3
        Quote: Kibalchish
        It seems to me that Obama is cowardly - if there is a chance of failure, then he will not take risks. Bush, for example, was ready for this, but that one had no brains.

        I doubt the presence of brains from amers.
    7. novobranets
      novobranets 29 August 2013 14: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: klimpopov
      It can be seen that narcotics overlooks and the mind clears up.
      Damn can they all drink some water there.

      Sit in a cool place, such as Kolyma or Siberia. There nature is thoughtful. recourse
    8. Che
      Che 29 August 2013 19: 11 New
      +1
      Tolerasts have irritation - a good remedy for him, flogging. Flog these bullshit in public in the square. It seems that the brain is completely absent. Like the soldiers of Oorfene Jus. Wooden.
  2. GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 29 August 2013 10: 43 New
    +2
    Syria and its fate are hanging by a thread the situation is tense to the limit, but it seems that a new limit has been found, so the situation will become even more tense it’s just a matter of time. The main thing is to wait for the countdown of UN chemical weapons inspectors.
    1. Pit
      Pit 29 August 2013 10: 50 New
      +6
      Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
      The main thing is to wait for the countdown of the UN chemical weapons inspectors.

      What's the point of this report? Everything has already been decided, the guns are loaded and the soldiers are on the battlefield, all that remains is to say.
      And the report will show that the government used the chemical weapons, and Russia knew this or even coordinated these attacks.
      1. Nitup
        Nitup 29 August 2013 11: 18 New
        +3
        Quote: Pit
        What's the point of this report? Everything has already been decided, the guns are loaded and the soldiers are on the battlefield, all that remains is to say.
        And the report will show that the government used the chemical weapons, and Russia knew this or even coordinated these attacks.

        The outcome of the report of the UN commission is likely to depend on the outcome of the talks between Putin and Obama at the G-20 summit.
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 29 August 2013 10: 52 New
      +6
      Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
      The main thing is to wait for the countdown of the UN chemical weapons inspectors.


      Who did they help? Serbia? Libya?

      US fleet ready for attack by Georgia and Florida submarines with 154 KR each. USS "Nimitz" and USS "Harry Truman" - each of which has about 70 fighter jets, support planes and helicopters, destroyers such as "Arly Burke" in the 6th Fleet. USS Mahen, USS Graveli, USS Barry and USS Remedge, each of which carries a combination of 90 anti-aircraft and cruise missiles - these are located in the Mediterranean Sea.
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 29 August 2013 12: 33 New
        +5
        Quote: Vadivak
        Who did they help? Serbia? Libya?

        They helped .... it was precisely at the instigation of the UN that chaos and chaos were going on in Iraq and Libya, the countries were practically thrown back into the feudal system. Ethnic cleansings were carried out in Sebia with the help of the UN .. "They help" .. and alas, not without result ..
    3. Sandov
      Sandov 29 August 2013 10: 56 New
      +5
      It’s a pity there is no Nikita. Conduct Operation Angara in Cuba, Venezuela. Maybe amers then will include the head.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 29 August 2013 11: 06 New
        19
        Quote: Sandov
        It’s a pity there is no Nikita.

        At the time of Nikita there was a more adequate Kennedy. Now in the White House sits a monkey with a grenade.
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 29 August 2013 11: 09 New
          10
          And really MONKEY and really with a grenade. You will not see this in a nightmare. He would be on a palm tree in his native savannah, and he is here destroying the world ...
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 29 August 2013 11: 28 New
            +7
            Quote: klimpopov
            . He would be on a palm tree in his native savannah, and he is here destroying the world ...

            Are you sure that they didn’t put a palm tree in the oval office? The wife over there broke his beds, and this one can weigh on a tree in his free time.
            1. klimpopov
              klimpopov 29 August 2013 11: 38 New
              +4
              Interesting fleas from each other choose in the evenings?
        2. fzr1000
          fzr1000 29 August 2013 11: 27 New
          +8
          In vain you are so about Obama. If Bush or Obama’s “white” electoral contenders were sitting there, the war would have already begun. But Obama is slow, weighing all the pros and cons. So he is no longer a "monkey with a grenade." Iraq and Afghanistan he inherited. Maybe it will manage with Syria so far, and Russia will gain time.
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 29 August 2013 11: 49 New
            +4
            [hide] [/ hide]
            Quote: fzr1000
            If Bush or Obama’s “white” electoral contenders were sitting there, the war would have already begun.


            Well, this family was initially frostbitten

            From the summary

            Yesterday, in Scotland, after the meeting of the Big Eight, Bush Jr. decided to pack on a bike ... But he lost control and demolished the local Scottish policeman with his infernal car on wheels.
            Noise, crashing, naked ... from under the Scottish skirt - this is what happened at the scene of the disaster.

            According to the testimony of local traffic cops, Bush has developed speed, as the president himself admitted: “I love to ride a bike and in childhood I loved, such a wind clears my brains!” Unfortunately, Bush himself suffered little damage, but a brave Scottish policeman was hospitalized.
          2. klimpopov
            klimpopov 29 August 2013 11: 54 New
            0
            What's the difference sooner or later? The decision was made, as I understand it.
        3. leon-iv
          leon-iv 29 August 2013 11: 30 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: Sandov
          It’s a pity there is no Nikita.

          At the time of Nikita there was a more adequate Kennedy. Now in the White House sits a monkey with a grenade.

          I would not say that Obama does not personally make decisions. I think that they are captive to their ideology of the world gendarme. And Syria will hit the US budget very expensively.
          IMHO 2 AUG is not enough. And the real danger is Israel.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 29 August 2013 11: 35 New
            +7
            Quote: leon-iv
            I would not say that Obama does not personally make decisions. I think that they are captive to their ideology of the world gendarme.

            I spit out who makes decisions there, but on TV I see Obama's face. With him and demand
      2. klimpopov
        klimpopov 29 August 2013 11: 07 New
        16
        Nikita hmm ...
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 29 August 2013 11: 12 New
          +5
          Here is who could tame the Americans and hold them eggs in the doorway with a door so that they squealed like cut ...
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 29 August 2013 11: 29 New
            +4
            Quote: klimpopov
            and hold the eggs in the doorway with the door so that they squeal like cut ...

            It’s clear with Obama, but what about Clinton, she has no eggs. Klim look for options
            1. klimpopov
              klimpopov 29 August 2013 11: 40 New
              0
              Sasha, are you sure? laughing
      3. Nitup
        Nitup 29 August 2013 11: 41 New
        10
        Quote: Sandov
        Sorry Nikita is not

        Which began to trade for dollars, burying the Stalinist system of the gold ruble, putting the USSR in a known weaker position than the United States. He quarreled with China, cut aircraft, navy, artillery. No thanks. There was nothing good from Khrushchev for the USSR. Just do not talk about Khrushchev. As if, if there weren’t Khrushchev, housing construction in the USSR would have stopped.
      4. silver_roman
        silver_roman 29 August 2013 11: 43 New
        0
        maybe the connection of our Pacific Fleet ships is not just preparing for a trip to Vietnam and then to Venezuela ???
    4. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 August 2013 11: 04 New
      +1
      Quote: GREAT RUSSIA
      .Main to wait for the countdown of the UN chemical weapons inspectors.

      Nothing will change, they will say that they doubt this report, by the way it was already not long ago.
      1. Pit
        Pit 29 August 2013 11: 56 New
        +3
        Yes, nothing good will come of this report. If something is decided, then only on the G-20, although it is unlikely there, Obama tricked Putin to meet. And in my opinion there’s nothing more to bargain with, we realized that we couldn’t agree with them, and they realized that we understood this.
  3. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 29 August 2013 10: 43 New
    0
    Quote: klimpopov
    Damn can they all drink some water there.

    In Zimbabwe, all of them, as humanitarian aid! laughing
  4. White
    White 29 August 2013 10: 43 New
    +2
    I don’t understand why the USA clung to Syria, what are the motives?
    1. Pit
      Pit 29 August 2013 10: 52 New
      +5
      Quote: White
      I don’t understand why the USA clung to Syria, what are the motives?

      Free road to Iran, and then to Russia.
      By the way, you too will not seem a little in this scenario.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 29 August 2013 11: 07 New
        +7
        Quote: Pit
        By the way, you too will not seem a little in this scenario.

        Well what are you saying, they are five minutes MEMBERS of the European gatherings communities laughing
        1. Pit
          Pit 29 August 2013 11: 58 New
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          they are five minutes MEMBERS

          So that's why they will be puzzled to bring democracy to our masses, if it comes to that
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 29 August 2013 12: 01 New
            +3
            Quote: Pit
            So that's why they will be puzzled to bring democracy to our masses,

            Send them with their (theirs) democracy far, far wink
      2. Nitup
        Nitup 29 August 2013 12: 02 New
        +2
        Plus an alternative gas pipeline from Qatar to Europe. They want to block us the flow of money from the sale of hydrocarbons
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 29 August 2013 10: 55 New
      +5
      Quote: White
      I don’t understand why the USA clung to Syria, what are the motives?


      Israel’s bad neighbor. Next Iran.
      1. White
        White 29 August 2013 11: 05 New
        +2
        After Ashad, Islamists will come to power for Israel, this is even worse.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 29 August 2013 11: 32 New
          +3
          Quote: White
          After Ashad, Islamists will come to power for Israel, this is even worse.


          Are those in sandals? This is where the Merkavas come in handy, roll out onto the asphalt and the United States will immediately join NATO.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 29 August 2013 11: 30 New
        +3
        Quote: Vadivak

        Israel’s bad neighbor.

        Vadim, but Israel doesn’t have good ones, just from time to time they appoint the main bad one and hit him hi
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 29 August 2013 11: 40 New
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Vadim, but Israel doesn’t have good ones,


          Sasha, see for yourself. The armies of those who once attacked Israel are already out of the game - Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq. Iran remained, which is already in isolation.
    3. svp67
      svp67 29 August 2013 11: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: White
      I don’t understand why the USA clung to Syria, what are the motives?
      MONEY ...
    4. 11 black
      11 black 29 August 2013 11: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: White
      I don’t understand why the USA clung to Syria, what are the motives?

      Good old OIL !!! + Gazprom strangle and open the road to Iran.
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 29 August 2013 12: 25 New
        +7
        Quote: 11 black
        Gazprom strangle


        I would have strangled him myself. Our gas in Europe is cheaper than for Russia
  5. avt
    avt 29 August 2013 10: 43 New
    +1
    Churkin and the Foreign Ministry are not to be envied right now, there the undercover glow is now at a high degree. ,, Slightly lowered the degree of rhetoric unexpectedly London. Prime Minister Cameron, said that we must wait for the conclusions of the UN inspectors. "---- Natural swing, judging by this, God forbid.
    1. svp67
      svp67 29 August 2013 11: 01 New
      +9
      Quote: avt
      Prime Minister Cameron, said that we must wait for the conclusions of the UN inspectors. "---- natural swing
      It’s interesting who and what “pushed” them back, if not GDP by their telephone conversation ... It can bend a couple of verbal turns, so much so that the translators can’t translate a couple of days, and when they do, the opponent the “nervous tick” begins from the perspective of the proposed GDP ...
      There are many shortcomings in GDP, but not in the introduction of international affairs in critical situations - it’s like “fish in water” ... Good luck, good luck and good luck to it again ...
      1. VasDA
        VasDA 29 August 2013 11: 16 New
        +6
        I recall August 2008 ... GDP in Beijing (in the Far East) ... Georgia was given by wort ...
        A motorcade with GDP just drove past our office ... Again in the Far East ...
        Maybe a good sign is born?
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 29 August 2013 14: 22 New
          +1
          Quote: VasDA
          August 2008 ... GDP in Beijing


          Medvedev is on vacation, Serdyukov as always for women, Makarov is in a stupor, and at this time, intelligence was not just warning, but screaming - war !!!
      2. S-200
        S-200 29 August 2013 12: 07 New
        +3
        Quote: svp67
        There are many shortcomings in GDP, but not in the introduction of international affairs in critical situations - it’s like “fish in water” ... Good luck, good luck and good luck to it again ...

        Putin is a fighter (of an invisible front) specially trained in actions from this bastard and not afraid of puppet Entente top managers, because he knows who they are in jo ... pulls the strings
      3. avt
        avt 29 August 2013 14: 30 New
        0
        Quote: svp67
        It’s interesting who and what “pushed” them back, if not GDP by their telephone conversation ... It can bend a couple of verbal turns, so much so that the translators can’t translate a couple of days, and when they do, the opponent the “nervous tick” begins from the perspective of the proposed GDP ...

        Well, who will tell you now and voice the real course of the negotiations? request You can estimate their level and tension even if you put a number of calls to Cameron, a conversation with the Iranian chief and here’s the latest message about seemingly consenting to the withdrawal of Iranians from Syria. There is obviously some sort of exchange to prevent escalation. After all, in the end, they’ll definitely hit Iran.
  6. svp67
    svp67 29 August 2013 10: 46 New
    +7
    That's who would be surprised. It seems that they simply change the name of the country in the documents - the victims, Iraq, Libya, now Syria ...
    "Underwater strategists" get out of the bases - forward to the ocean, to the position ... It's time to show these "writers" that "chaos" will be punished ...
  7. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 29 August 2013 10: 49 New
    +3
    Historians in the future, the NATO strike on Syria will be called the beginning of the 3 world. In Fashington, a decision has already been made - to be bombed, these resolutions, veto, etc. only the slightly inevitable is delayed, although this is not a little in this situation.
  8. Shumer
    Shumer 29 August 2013 10: 51 New
    +9
    English devil incarnate am
  9. falcon
    falcon 29 August 2013 10: 52 New
    0
    Much will now depend on the integrity of UN chemical experts. weapons working in
    Syria. Therefore, the tactics of our representative in the UN Security Council are correct - to pull 4-5 days. And there, who
    knows?
    1. 787nkx
      787nkx 29 August 2013 11: 05 New
      +3
      Not principle is important, but the flow of information.
      Four questions are important:
      1. Was there a fact of using OM.
      2. Who is applied to.
      3. Where did they get it.
      4. Whether the current government will be able to prevent such cases in the future.

      Having concluded that the authorities are not cooperative according to claim 4, formally, the UN has the right to respond.
      1. Cpa
        Cpa 29 August 2013 13: 26 New
        0
        Quote: 787nkx
        Where did they get it.

        I already wrote once that, with humanitarian aid, two tanks of chlorine were imported into Syria, supposedly for disinfecting water. Immediately there were reports of the use of chlorine in collisions.
    2. Dmitry 2246
      Dmitry 2246 29 August 2013 11: 15 New
      +5
      Aircraft bombers were ambushed, Egypt got into a mess, Russia rebelled, Germany, Austria against. Experts can’t “push”. Security Council against. Ban Ki-moon woke up. Already, like a joke, they tied the telephone wiretap.
      In short, right now, the problems are resolved, maybe the alignment will change.
      Or maybe we're lucky?
      To do this, you must immediately bomb the Saudis, Qatari and the UAE.
      1. Pit
        Pit 29 August 2013 12: 05 New
        +6
        Quote: Dmitry 2246
        To do this, you must immediately bomb the Saudis, Qatari and the UAE.

        And cut through the Stalin Strait
        1. S-200
          S-200 29 August 2013 12: 46 New
          +3
          ... and then Panama is too narrow, shallow and meandering for the Russian Navy!
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  10. andrei332809
    andrei332809 29 August 2013 10: 54 New
    0
    But something happened at the highest levels, which we don’t know yet. otherwise why suddenly the amers and the Britons tamed. oh, a difficult thing is politics
    1. wax
      wax 29 August 2013 13: 23 New
      0
      Perhaps the main goal of the pack is on an unofficial visit to a friendly country.
  11. Docklishin
    Docklishin 29 August 2013 10: 55 New
    +7
    The star of the hero, to the one who promoted the RT project to the west - is brilliant !!!! RT You well done - the forefront of the information war. And the FASCIS amers, here’s how you can unleash the war at your own wish, laugh live on death ... and then, as if nothing had happened, go to dinner parties and eat delicacies ...
    1. a52333
      a52333 29 August 2013 11: 22 New
      0
      Do not know if Rt has a large audience? Where?
      1. iCuD
        iCuD 29 August 2013 12: 08 New
        0
        If I am not mistaken, RT takes the second place (after the BBC) among foreign channels in the USA.
  12. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 29 August 2013 10: 55 New
    +4
    These sheep need to understand that they are initiating a global war in the entire Middle East. Apparently I really want chaos, so that later I spread to Russia, these jackals do not understand only one thing - it is unlikely to control it, it will hook everyone without exception.
  13. Rash
    Rash 29 August 2013 10: 57 New
    +2
    Quote: White
    I don’t understand why the USA clung to Syria, what are the motives?

    1. The increase in the ceiling of the US public debt due to an increase in spending on the war with Syria.
    2. There will be a turmoil - oil and gas prices will rise - oil and gas companies will increase revenues.
    3. Divide and conquer!
    4. Paranoia of the West smile
    1. Fire
      Fire 29 August 2013 11: 55 New
      +1
      5. Syrian oil
  14. seller trucks
    seller trucks 29 August 2013 11: 01 New
    +5
    But in our opinion, the regime will not be able to hide behind Russia for a long time. We will make our own decision on the necessary actions, "- said the official representative of the US State Department Marie Harf.


    As far as I understand, the United States and Co (NATO) openly declare that they are ready to completely depose the UN Security Council as a structure and “elevate” itself to the podium of the Executors of the destinies of the World. Well, the UN has discredited itself for a long time as a matter of fact it is a purely nominal organization - well, that would be nice to hang out. There are only two obstacles in the person of Russia and China in the accession at the head of the world, they are essentially potential enemies. Hmm, now accuse me of excessive conspiracy theories.
    1. Fire
      Fire 29 August 2013 11: 52 New
      +2
      Everyone has long known that Americans do not care about anyone’s opinion, including the opinion of the UN Security Council ...
    2. wax
      wax 29 August 2013 13: 29 New
      +1
      Well, the UN has discredited itself for a long time as a matter of fact it is a purely nominal organization - well, that would be nice to hang out. There are only two obstacles in the person of Russia and China in the accession at the head of the world, they are essentially potential enemies.
      But these two obstacles exist precisely because there is a UN.
      1. seller trucks
        seller trucks 29 August 2013 13: 50 New
        0
        Quote: Wax
        But these two obstacles exist precisely because there is a UN.


        Quote: seller trucks
        US and Co (NATO) openly declare that they are ready to completely depose the UN Security Council
  15. yan
    yan 29 August 2013 11: 10 New
    +2
    I liked the monkey with the grenade. The Great Shaves finally turned into the litter of their former US colony.
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 29 August 2013 14: 28 New
      +1
      It just seems like the threads are stretching from Wall Street, and at the end of these threads Obama is the United States only tool.
  16. Vtel
    Vtel 29 August 2013 11: 11 New
    +3
    World kosher brewed porridge from which then they themselves will not be sweet. Praise God that God is and truth is not in power, but in truth - truth is God. Happy Holidays - Thank God!
  17. dimon-media
    dimon-media 29 August 2013 11: 11 New
    +4
    Is it really that the satellites of the mattress and other countries crawling before the stripes do not have self-esteem, their own opinions and views on elementary things? Why do they want to deceive themselves and wishful thinking? Live like cash cows driving their economies into fabulous debts with which they are not able to pay off forever? Like a flock of rams rub against the feet of his master, anticipating that he would tread them on the withers and scratch behind his ear, and whip in his hand, and a knife in his belt to let the negligent ram onto a barbecue. What can we talk about independence, sovereignty of satellite countries? They created a pancake for themselves an illusion, they dream of something unknown, creating bright dreams for themselves about a bright vassal future. Your master, gentlemen from the British Isles and blue Europe will die, then you will share the unenviable fate after him. In the meantime, silently and dutifully kiss his bedding. The owner did not give you a word. Prostitutes are political.
  18. sigdoc
    sigdoc 29 August 2013 11: 12 New
    +3
    The Americans are afraid that in the event of war no one in Europe will support them, the British abandoned their allies at the very beginning of the war and their support can be wiped, the position of the Germans will be important
  19. newmark1948
    newmark1948 29 August 2013 11: 15 New
    0
    What are the "strategies"? Which ocean? There is nothing to output, and nothing to fart. The country, sir, came to their senses when trouble knocks on the gate. Although you understand that not one of our surface ships in the event of hostilities will survive even a day if it enters the ocean, and most of it will go to the bottom within an hour. And no one will give such an order. Brzezinski said that Russia will never take anything serious against the United States and its allies, because 500 billion of the money of its officials and deputies, businessmen, their children, families are in America, England, and other countries. Plus, foreign exchange reserves operate in the same America and European countries. Russia, no matter how offensive it is for us, is a run-down, third-rate raw-material colony, which is puffing itself, trying to portray itself as something significant. Before the "hunchbacked" traitor, did anyone dare to attack Syria or Iraq? Yes, no one even thought of such a thought.
  20. GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 29 August 2013 11: 17 New
    +2
    Quote: Pit
    What's the point of this report?

    Quote: Vadivak
    Who did they help? Serbia? Libya?

    The fact is that when Serbia, Libya and Iraq were bombed by RUSSIA only condemned them, because then our country could not do anything, and now RUSSIA stands for Syria with an edge so it makes sense, and there is no need to say that RUSSIA can not do anything.
    Quote: Pit
    And the report will show that the government used the chemical weapons, and Russia knew this or even coordinated these attacks.

    But the fact that this countdown will say no need to rush, it can still change, only militants could fully use chemical weapons, but RUSSIA knew about this, and it was not necessary to whine and say that everything had already been decided that the guns were ready and all this was already hysteria can be said. It would not make sense RUSSIA would have abandoned this business a long time ago, so it’s not too late.
    1. Pit
      Pit 29 August 2013 12: 12 New
      0
      Quote: Pit
      If something is decided, then only on the G-20, although it is unlikely there, Obama tricked Putin to meet.

      But still there is still hope.
  21. maestro123
    maestro123 29 August 2013 11: 29 New
    +1
    Quote: bodriy
    Maybe a little off topic ... hi I watched today the news about CHYUBYSA and him, I came across the thought, what if I send the whole gang of super bureaucrats there, make Gorbachev’s commander’s platoon, Serdyuchka the company ... Vasilyeva the nurse, let the sins be repaid before the fatherland !!! laughing But seriously, all these congresses are a complete farce ... nothing new!

    They all fill up)))
    1. explorer
      explorer 29 August 2013 13: 03 New
      0
      laughing And if also a detachment?
  22. KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 29 August 2013 11: 35 New
    +6
    Kosovo, okay, we were children in the capitalist world ... But now, after 22 of the year, if they allow the UN to strike Syria without UN sanctions, this is not only the end of the UN as a structure, but also the end of the world. After all, the world will openly show that Russia and China will be destroyed in the near future. Perhaps in a new cold war.
    The only chance for world peace is the war in Syria where Russia will take control of the situation and show everyone that the world is multipolar.

    Russia risks remaining completely without zones of influence. After all, even Mongolia and Kazakhstan and Ukraine will provide bases for NATO ... Georgia, with the Caucasus are still burning ... Slack cannot be allowed. There should be no bargaining.
  23. Sirs
    Sirs 29 August 2013 11: 50 New
    +1
    Syria - we are with you.
  24. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 29 August 2013 12: 18 New
    +5
    Marie Hart, Angela Stant, Condoleezza Rice, Hilary Clinton - all the women, but some kind of mad, bloodthirsty. Not casual it.
    1. Sirs
      Sirs 29 August 2013 12: 45 New
      +3
      They have rabies ... or under ...
      1. lewerlin53rus
        lewerlin53rus 29 August 2013 13: 28 New
        +2
        Quote: Sirs
        They have rabies ... or under.
        Not "or" but because of
  25. VladimS
    VladimS 29 August 2013 12: 51 New
    +1
    Yesterday I turned on the First one, they say there, they say, no one went anywhere, everything passed the norms in the Security Council.
    I open Yandex ---- "" "The delegations of Russia and China left the Security Council meeting on Syria." ""

    I open further, read the sources: Al Jazeera.
    Everything immediately became clear to me. That's how it’s easy for us to misinform. But then they will say that "for the Syrian troubled Putin." I know for sure, they will say so.


    What can I say. Yandex already xs about what can not proven blur.

    Well, that's interesting.
    News.
    Medvedev ..... such and such.
    Putin ....... this and that.
    Alexey Navalny ... that's it
    Alexey Navalny so and so.
    Very significant, I suppose.

    God forbid, the mind will leave Muscovites - they will choose this one.

    What's the difference sooner or later? The decision was made, as I understand it.
    You didn’t understand anything. No decision made. And even the Saxons are waiting for the commission report.
  26. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 29 August 2013 13: 16 New
    0
    Quote: lewerlin53rus
    Marie Hart, Angela Stant, Condoleezza Rice, Hilary Clinton - all the women, but some kind of mad, bloodthirsty. Not casual it.

    Even here, to the heap, Granny Madeleine Albright, too, does not differ in her special desire for peace.
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 29 August 2013 13: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: Kovrovsky
      and to heap grandmother Madeleine Albright

      Yes, there will be a lot of them. Not all witches in Europe were burned in the Dark Ages, demonic seed remained, devouring human lives
  27. bubla5
    bubla5 29 August 2013 14: 23 New
    +1
    So far, the last unbending leader of Syria has remained, that’s the last, but if the West and the Yankees start, consider him already overthrown, so finally, in advance, give him the order to attack the Amer fleet with Yakhonts and Basalt, but this is unlikely to happen, they’re afraid of everything then
  28. dmitreach
    dmitreach 29 August 2013 14: 27 New
    +1
    Slightly lowered the degree of rhetoric unexpectedly London. Prime Minister Cameron, said that we must wait for the conclusions of UN inspectors. ......

    Slows and Obama. "I haven't made a decision yet. .....


    Which is to be expected. This co-chief executive officer needed a bargaining chip in negotiations with the GDP at the G20 summit. So they "organized" him. Now they don’t want to shoot and don’t shoot - they can’t ... U.ro.d.
    But, IMHO, they will not bomb Syria. They will come up with an excuse to drag out a long song or become mired "in meetings."
    1. dmitreach
      dmitreach 29 August 2013 14: 31 New
      +2


      interesting statement by the Belgian deputy about the gangster essence of the "USA" and the West
      1. KBPC50
        KBPC50 30 August 2013 11: 52 New
        0
        Yeah! GayRopeytsy will definitely strangle him.
      2. Jogan-xnumx
        Jogan-xnumx 30 August 2013 13: 07 New
        0
        Strong and frank! Although everyone knows about all this already ... Another thing is interesting, why is the time dragging out with a car accident? Or do not give a damn, like a annoying fly?
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  30. Horn
    Horn 29 August 2013 15: 02 New
    +1
    Well, still not annoyance! It’s brazen to accuse the other of what you’re doing all the time and suddenly not to hear the friendly “Approve-s!” ... The United States has repeatedly used chemical weapons after the signing of the Prohibition Convention (which, by the way, Syria has not ratified). Used in Vietnam, applied in Iraq. And the same Saddam was supplied with gas and components.
    Who's the loudest screaming “Hold the thief!”?
  31. shinobi
    shinobi 29 August 2013 15: 50 New
    +1
    There is an opinion that Obama was slowed down by his own military men .. We’re ready, let’s order it and hit it up! Let’s take a look at the cents with dollars for a start. And it scratches turnips. And you have to answer for the bazaar, otherwise the guys won’t understand and feel sorry for the money. So debts at the most want.
  32. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 29 August 2013 16: 49 New
    +1
    What is combing in the anus, gentlemen, LGBT defenders are about to scratch Assad the Shell and the s-300, and so there will be no anus either. And it’s time for the African American to move his turnip a little and where he goes.
  33. voliador
    voliador 29 August 2013 17: 56 New
    0
    Monkeys from the white house (or rather, those who control it) desperately need a bridgehead for aggression in Iran. Indeed, the troops must withdraw from Iraq Iraq, and the Jews will not allow their territory to be used.
  34. Druid
    Druid 29 August 2013 21: 48 New
    +1
    “To circumvent is to flagrantly violate international law. Nonetheless, the Western Allies believe that they can sometimes be neglected.” There is no need to legitimize strikes. This can be done through NATO structures or other organizations. And it will be just as legitimate as the operation in Kosovo - without the sanction of the Security Council, "said Angela Stant, a member of the US National Intelligence Council in 2004-2006."
    Probably have to agree with many that amers are fools. What international law is there, UN inspections, etc. - drool ... It is necessary to give all opponents of Assad, Syrian citizens, passports of Russian citizens, sorry, US citizens, and then boldly bomb Assad "protecting their citizens."

    International law for the USA, England, France, China and Russia, including, is a roll of paper in the toilet - when they want to spoil somewhere, they are quietly wiped with this international law. The United States simply has more opportunities now, only because of which G is from them more than from all the others listed. But swap the States with any of these countries, and it will not be better, if not worse.
  35. KBPC50
    KBPC50 30 August 2013 11: 45 New
    0
    Russia and the USSR have always been dirty. Boors, scum and scum were and will eat human blood, children’s, etc. The West has always been afraid of the truth. Hitler attacked Poland according to a lie. The same thing is being done now, today, and always by gay men.
  36. KBPC50
    KBPC50 30 August 2013 11: 51 New
    +1
    This deputy must be invited to Russia. Here he can talk. It’s a pity that this smart man will be shot, referred to the accident.
  37. KBPC50
    KBPC50 30 August 2013 11: 56 New
    0
    In a comment I published my opinion: Vladimir Vladimirovich, install SKIF faster. And then let them be afraid. Russia does not want to fight with anyone. Protect our duty !!!