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The Chinese J-31 will carry more combat load than the American F-35

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This month, the prototype of the J-31 fighter made the fourth flight (August 23), which significantly exceeds the intensity of the July tests, mil.news.sina.com.cn reports today. Analysts believe that this fighter in the future may take a worthy place in the global export of fifth-generation fighter jets (according to the Chinese classification, the fourth - approx. "VP").


The effectiveness of this aircraft can be comparable or even surpass the F-35. Earlier it was reported that the prototype J-31 is equipped with Russian-made RD-93 engines, this news confirmed RSK MiG. This turbofan is also used on the FC-1 light multipurpose fighter. The engine for installation on the aircraft of the new generation is “a bit old”, but this solution is the most “safe approach” for equipping an experienced aircraft, since the RD-93 is a “proven and mature design”. In the future, it will be replaced by a new Chinese WS-13, with significantly better parameters.

Test pilot Xu Yonglin says that for China the creation of stealth fighters is not an end in itself; these planes must have a large combat load to perform operational functions. In his opinion, the combat load of the J-31 will be greater than that of the F-35.

J-31 made the first flight of 30 on October 2012 of the year. The difference from J-20 is that this aircraft is not a “state project”. It was created on its own initiative by the Shenyang Aircraft Corporation. This fact shows that Chinese aircraft manufacturers have sufficient financial resources to create modern aircraft without state financing. It is worth recalling that the L-15 supersonic training aircraft was also created on its own initiative.

The American publication The Wall Street Journal believes that in the next 10 years, J-20 and J-31 fighters have every chance of becoming the main attack aircraft of the military aviation China and take its share in the global market of tactical combat aircraft.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 27 August 2013 11: 37 New
    +4
    The Chinese J-31 will carry more combat load than the American F-35
    And it is created on the basis of our MiGs, can someone answer if we were in a hurry to close this project on the MiG ...
    1. kosmos44
      kosmos44 27 August 2013 11: 46 New
      15
      The Chinese J-31 will carry more combat load than the American F-35


      The question is, how far will it take?
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 27 August 2013 11: 58 New
        +4
        Quote: kosmos44
        The question is, how far will it take?

        +! removed from the tongue ... laughing
      2. Siberian German
        Siberian German 28 August 2013 03: 13 New
        0
        I think it’s closer than 35 - but the question is what will he carry
      3. Fire
        Fire 28 August 2013 11: 52 New
        0
        I think that far. Today, China has developed very much and is developing further by leaps and bounds ...
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 27 August 2013 12: 11 New
      11
      Already on the MiG, he is least like. Suffice it to say that the IFI was built according to the Duck scheme, like the Chinese J-10, and this is a classic scheme.
      1. Basileus
        Basileus 27 August 2013 12: 34 New
        +1
        You say so, as if all the MiGs were made in the duck) Although our new generation LFI would not hurt us.
      2. svp67
        svp67 27 August 2013 12: 36 New
        +3
        Quote: donavi49
        Already on the MiG, he is least like.
        Fact. Still worse than you could imagine ... In 10 years, China will have TWO STELS fighters ... Why are we helping them?
        1. svp67
          svp67 27 August 2013 12: 58 New
          +3
          Yes, and he will be tactical - read the light, the battlefield plane. And where is that field? And with whom will they fight?
          1. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa 27 August 2013 13: 18 New
            +1
            Oooh, they all have the same territorial claims, both against Japan and Taiwan, and south Korea and Vietnam. So there is where to fly.
        2. Konsmo
          Konsmo 27 August 2013 16: 58 New
          +2
          I recalled a joke of the 70s.
          The Chinese are planning. On the left there is an army of 2 million people, another army of 3 million people bypasses on the other side.
          Question to the speaker, but what about our tanks?
          The tanks on the left will go.
          How is everything at once?
          No, first one, followed by another.
        3. Reasonable, 2,3
          Reasonable, 2,3 27 August 2013 18: 16 New
          0
          China is far from us. But there will be "grandmother's professors", and for 10000 bucks, they will sell technologies worth billions. We are waiting for traitors.
    3. Suhov
      Suhov 27 August 2013 13: 57 New
      +3
      Chinese J-31 will carry more combat load than the American F-35


      And what? Experience is available ...
      laughing
      1. Konsmo
        Konsmo 27 August 2013 17: 00 New
        +1
        It will be borne. But so, low, low. crying
    4. Vadivak
      Vadivak 27 August 2013 15: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      And it is created on the basis of our MiGs, can someone answer if we were in a hurry to close this project on the MiG ...


      H'm. In fact, the Shenyang cloned the Su-27, and this MiG machine has nothing at all. Why did RSK MiG perform? Yes, because the production of the MiG-35 was postponed due to the fact that the RD-93 engine was sold to China.
      - Klimov OJSC Modification of a turbojet dual-circuit engine with afterburner RD-33, developed in 1985 for installation on a light front-line fighter MiG-29.
      1. svp67
        svp67 27 August 2013 18: 25 New
        0
        Quote: Vadivak
        H'm. Actually "Shenyang" cloned a Su-27,

        In fact, the Chinese specialists had FULL access to the development of the MiG, including the promising ones, of which the MiG 1.44 (MFI) is best known to us and some of its solutions were "cloned" in the J-20 ... Not the fact that some lesser known solutions not applied on this machine ...
    5. rks5317
      rks5317 27 August 2013 15: 12 New
      +1
      1) You forget that OUR engines are on them (sale of which is treason in its purest form, take an interest on this issue on the site of K Sivkov or L. Ivashov) 2) Think about who the PLA planes will be directed against — not to reach the United States. the United States will stand up for Japan ...- in Vietnam there is nothing to take. besides the unruly spirit of the Vietnamese ... There remain Russia and Kazakhstan (with a stretch) ... So, draw conclusions ...
      1. Konsmo
        Konsmo 27 August 2013 17: 06 New
        -3
        Che, I doubt that Europe and America will watch the Chinese mutuse Russia.
        Europe without Russia, it’s the same as without yai ... Give all your supplies to China?
        They are not frostbitten, Amer too. hi
        1. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 27 August 2013 18: 05 New
          +3
          Quote: Konsmo
          Che, I doubt that Europe and America will watch the Chinese mutuse Russia.

          Yes, they will only be glad.
          Only the Chinese will not cut the golden cow. It can be settled quietly and peacefully
          1. Konsmo
            Konsmo 27 August 2013 18: 56 New
            -1
            Will be glad that with the raw materials pip .. pip ..?
            Will he move in again? Read "Dersu Uzala" A hundred years ago, the Chinese were already thrown out of Russia.
            Now the process is coming to an end. This is not 10 years ago.
            1. patsantre
              patsantre 27 August 2013 20: 06 New
              0
              Rather, they will help China, and then they will share a delicious pie.
      2. vostok1982
        vostok1982 27 August 2013 21: 16 New
        0
        M-yeah. Let Taiwan first conquer. Yes, what Taiwan - let them try to conquer Mongolia.
      3. Avenger711
        Avenger711 28 August 2013 02: 45 New
        -1
        At your leisure, find out how many territorial claims there are to China, about the Vietnam-China war in the 70s and do not write such nonsense. And you don’t need to fly to the USA, China can be grabbed by the eggs at once, blocking the straits in Indonesia, so there is where to fight without Russia.
    6. waisson
      waisson 27 August 2013 18: 29 New
      +1
      we have something to think about; there is something to be afraid of
  2. Vtel
    Vtel 27 August 2013 11: 39 New
    -3
    Correctly let the crafty Yankees scratch their turnips and what's lower. There is no silver lining.
    1. svp67
      svp67 27 August 2013 11: 47 New
      +5
      Quote: Vtel
      Correctly let the crafty Yankees scratch their turnips and what's lower. There is no silver lining.

      So it will fly near our borders, and not the US borders ...
      1. Basileus
        Basileus 27 August 2013 12: 22 New
        +4
        Thanks to Yeltsin for this! Russia itself dug up a defense hole, throwing overboard many enterprises, including MiG - now that the brains and technology have leaked, it's too late to regret it.
        1. Kibalchish
          Kibalchish 27 August 2013 15: 56 New
          +4
          Correction: Mig-1.44 took off in February of 2000. At that time, Yeltsin was no longer the president. So think to whom to say thanks. By the way, Poghosyan destroyed the Migovsky project, saying that he would do it faster and cheaper. And how it turned out, in fact, we know. 10 years and 2 billion dollars.
          1. Konsmo
            Konsmo 27 August 2013 17: 39 New
            +4
            Now 2 billion for Russia is not money. And Sukhoi’s civilian unit is an important business. Moreover, making a plane with the dimensions of a Super and a military Su is two big differences. Everything needs to be updated.
            Now there is denyuzhku, I need to support the carcass and Ilyushin.
            Glory to you, Lord Mud ... and Kudrin was thrown out of the government, fucking ... you need to put a candle in it, for this, when I’ll be in the church, otherwise he would have put everything into the Amer’s papers. Now they remembered about highways. Putin sits for 13 years, guessed. The reproach is not even to him, but to his surroundings, economists of this level. I hope to guess how to invest in regional provincial roads (high-quality). Then everyone (the economy) will trample on leaps and bounds. The Romans knew that the roads are the arteries of the state, the Mongols knew, and our su .. economists are rowing ... they don’t know. What are their freaks taught at institutes.
            Yes, about Kudrin.
            We had such a mo .... Under Nicholas 1. Conkrin was called German. Passion was clever, state money. Coast.
            He said that Russia would need the Petersburg-Kazan railway in 200 years. Almost guessed. From railways one harm and stink. And the cows get scared, the milk is bad, and they plunder.
            But even Kolka 1, when they got into a mess, in the Crimean, a piece of iron to Kiev was not even completed in 1855. In order to transfer troops from Siberia, from Moldova, from the Caucasus, to bring recruits from Siberia, it takes 2-3 months to go on foot in Crimea.
            He is told that Europe has built a bunch of glands, to our border, in a week the troops will be transferred, and we will wander 2 months to our border.
            Kolya 1 said, bl..t, build. (Swindler was)
            And he died of chagrin.
            If it’s interesting, I can write why our railways are wider than the European railway. fellow
            1. Dober
              Dober 28 August 2013 02: 45 New
              0
              Quote: Konsmo
              The Romans knew that roads are the arteries of the state, the Mongols knew, and our sou ..

              They also know this in Russia. Any "collective farmer" who at least once tried to push a Gazelle from a ton of grown vegetables to the city market with his own * opy. Yes there and dumped next to a half-meter slurry, by the road.
              But officials at the level of Sobyanin do not know about this. Therefore, they build such marvelous interchanges near Moscow that you can’t turn your eyes to it.
              They also say - "arteries" ... To make Muskvabad breathe better. And for me this den will suffocate in traffic jams.
              Science will be - go to the earth, work with your hands and hump.
              And the sooner they understand this, the less they will choke on the subway, breathe burning dust and not think about how much meat will be in hyper.
            2. Avenger711
              Avenger711 28 August 2013 02: 52 New
              -1
              What "Ilyushin" ?? There is no more this KB, there is some kind of office that deals with what kind of financial fraud. And there is no Tupolev, and not only EBN is to blame for this. On SSJ "Ilovtsy" were called, they didn't need it.
          2. Avenger711
            Avenger711 28 August 2013 02: 49 New
            -1
            There was nothing to destroy. A detailed analysis of the real possibilities of 1.44 was already somewhere. However, even if it had not been closed, then the MiGovskoye Design Bureau itself had no longer had the potential for design, like everyone else except Sukhoi.
      2. Vtel
        Vtel 27 August 2013 15: 58 New
        0
        Not only that, the Chinese of Taiwan will want to return theirs, then they will strain with an amer. And the islands are shared with the Japanese. The enemy of our enemies is our friend, while the enemies have disappeared.
  3. denson06
    denson06 27 August 2013 11: 48 New
    +3
    This aircraft even in appearance resembles the borrowing of the best from the Russian aviation industry (the rear of the aircraft) and the American (front). China now has all the conditions in order to finally break away from the dependence of countries, suppliers of military equipment (Russia, Ukraine and others). They have already done a lot in this direction .. what can I say - well done!
    1. Konsmo
      Konsmo 27 August 2013 17: 52 New
      +2
      And the middle part?
      Our in Zhukovsky for months purge designs.
      And the Chinese know the parts add up.
      Oh, tail scales.
      Maybe we don’t need a theory, to fold the Amer’s tail of the plane, with a pterodactyl, maybe it will fly.
      But the new scheme can be patented.
      There was a duck, now a pteroster hi
      1. Dober
        Dober 28 August 2013 02: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: Konsmo
        There was a duck, now a pteroster

        Yeah ... Then I will offer the concept of a bug. May ...
        And what is sheer "novelty". The wing area is scanty and incomparable with the weight. No aerodynamics. But it flies and even buzzes ... Well, purely a barman.
        What is the psychological effect on a potential adversary ...

        Comrade Poghosyan, rather start "blowing" the models until the Kitaises are put into production.
    2. patsantre
      patsantre 27 August 2013 20: 09 New
      0
      Quote: denson06
      about the best from the Russian aviation industry (rear of the aircraft)

      She actually borrowed from the raptor.
  4. Veles25
    Veles25 27 August 2013 11: 56 New
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    1. Basileus
      Basileus 27 August 2013 12: 24 New
      +2
      Do not you think that the article here is not about the F-35? Recently there were also about the American, including in his defense, - there they belong. And here everyone will only be grateful if you submit similar clips about the J-31.
      1. Veles25
        Veles25 27 August 2013 12: 29 New
        +1
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      2. Veles25
        Veles25 27 August 2013 12: 30 New
        +1
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      3. Veles25
        Veles25 27 August 2013 12: 30 New
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        1. Konsmo
          Konsmo 27 August 2013 18: 04 New
          -4
          You think it will come off the pedestal?
          Or will he pull it out with the root and fly with it to threaten the enemies?
    2. Krsk
      Krsk 27 August 2013 12: 33 New
      +2
      The meaning of this video is not set not? we have years ... yak back yak 131 encore performed this. Do you want to consider him the best? who's stopping you. And in real life, he most likely will have nowhere to pinch.
      1. Veles25
        Veles25 27 August 2013 12: 39 New
        -3
        Are you smarter than Lockheed Martin?
        1. Guun
          Guun 27 August 2013 14: 56 New
          +3
          I think the whole East is smarter than the West. You amers specialists (good) of a narrow profile and that’s it.
          1. Veles25
            Veles25 27 August 2013 15: 10 New
            -19
            that's all your story
            1. Basileus
              Basileus 27 August 2013 15: 38 New
              11
              Funny, given that American history does not exist at all.
            2. Suhov
              Suhov 27 August 2013 16: 12 New
              +9
              Quote: Veles25
              that's all your stories

              Speaking of the beginning of your story:
              Why are the Indians offended?
            3. Suhov
              Suhov 27 August 2013 16: 35 New
              +3
              Quote: Veles25
              that's all your story

              America is a country of double standards.
              What else do you want from a state founded slaveholderswho wanted to be free?
              George Carlin, American satirist, 1983

              Could you explain what he is talking about?
              wassat
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    3. Konsmo
      Konsmo 27 August 2013 18: 02 New
      +2
      And successfully, our Amers Yakovlev steamed.
      They choke with this scheme more than the Japanese with Focus.
      Under-plane with a radius of 700 km. and a speed of 1500 thousand per hour.
      Which self-destructs when opening missile hatches at a speed above sound.
      Glory to the heroes of the invisible front.
  5. Veles25
    Veles25 27 August 2013 11: 58 New
    -4
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    1. Far East
      Far East 27 August 2013 12: 07 New
      +1
      Dear Veles! and sho do you want to express these clips? hi
      1. Veles25
        Veles25 27 August 2013 12: 12 New
        -9
        I like F35
        1. Far East
          Far East 27 August 2013 12: 15 New
          +4
          Quote: Veles25
          I like F35

          understandably! but this is a "wrapper" and a filling? as well as the design is quite cute. hi
          1. Veles25
            Veles25 27 August 2013 12: 23 New
            -2
            and the filling? what do you mean?
            1. Far East
              Far East 27 August 2013 12: 29 New
              0
              Quote: Veles25
              and the filling? what do you mean?

              this is TTX
              1. Veles25
                Veles25 27 August 2013 12: 34 New
                -5
                http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II
              2. Veles25
                Veles25 27 August 2013 12: 36 New
                0
                https://www.f35.com/
                1. Far East
                  Far East 27 August 2013 12: 43 New
                  +4
                  this is an advertisement! This is not TTX! if interested, then on this site you will find the comments of American experts about this (FRAME) IT EVEN DOES NOT REFUSELY STARTED AT A LONG MINUS! look through find! hi
                  1. Veles25
                    Veles25 27 August 2013 12: 48 New
                    -8
                    Lockheed Martin they know what they do ...
                    1. Far East
                      Far East 27 August 2013 12: 56 New
                      +5
                      Quote: Veles25
                      Lockheed Martin they know what they do ...

                      my dear FRIEND! I'm not going to convince you! before you answer so serious! the question needs to be shoveled a lot of information, I'm not talking about Russian experts, it is the Americans who write about it, it’s a failure! but so many bobbles swelled there! then they don’t have a breakdown! it’s necessary to exalt him, if only their allies would buy it. hi
                      1. Veles25
                        Veles25 27 August 2013 12: 59 New
                        -1
                        disinformation
                      2. Far East
                        Far East 27 August 2013 13: 04 New
                        0
                        Quote: Veles25
                        disinformation

                        I have no words! laughing who told you this?
                      3. Guun
                        Guun 27 August 2013 14: 58 New
                        +4
                        Goebbels's disciples told him. I put an end to Western people - not to convince them.
                2. tilovaykrisa
                  tilovaykrisa 27 August 2013 13: 22 New
                  0
                  Not quite, otherwise there would be no problem with him.
                3. Alexei
                  Alexei 27 August 2013 13: 37 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Veles25
                  Lockheed Martin they know what they do ...

                  Do they know what they are doing, and do you even know what they are doing? laughing
                  1. Oleg111
                    Oleg111 28 August 2013 03: 05 New
                    +1
                    they chop grandmother and remove the videos-))))
        2. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 27 August 2013 13: 22 New
          0
          Chinese parts and this is no secret to anyone.
          1. Veles25
            Veles25 27 August 2013 13: 27 New
            -4
            Chinese parts and this is no secret to anyone ..lol
            1. tilovaykrisa
              tilovaykrisa 27 August 2013 13: 52 New
              +1
              I forgive the baby for your insolence for you, for today I am extremely peaceful.
              1. Veles25
                Veles25 27 August 2013 13: 58 New
                -4
                baby watch your tone
        3. The comment was deleted.
      2. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 27 August 2013 13: 21 New
        +1
        He was simply paid from Lockheed Martin, and he is fulfilling an order to raise the prestige of this unit among the leading aviation experts, as everyone knows the best of them are found here on the forum.

        But as for me, he is so hacky.
        1. Far East
          Far East 27 August 2013 13: 36 New
          +2
          Quote: tilovaykrisa
          But as for me, he is so hacky.

          he is still without a mustache UNEC! I forgive him for his respect for BEAUTIFUL! especially where he grew up and whose propaganda!
          1. Veles25
            Veles25 27 August 2013 13: 50 New
            -8
            all countries that co-finance the Program are the United States, Great Britain, Italy, the Netherlands, Canada, Turkey (, Australia, Norway and Denmark.

            and are you smarter than them?
            1. Far East
              Far East 27 August 2013 13: 57 New
              +3
              Quote: Veles25
              all countries that co-finance the Program are the United States, Great Britain, Italy, the Netherlands, Canada, Turkey (, Australia, Norway and Denmark.

              and are you smarter than them?

              CLEVERER! they wanted a "super" plane! but it turned out a STOOL! laughing hi
              1. Veles25
                Veles25 27 August 2013 14: 11 New
                -3
                It makes no sense to talk about f35. You know everything hi
                1. Far East
                  Far East 27 August 2013 14: 45 New
                  0
                  Quote: Veles25
                  It makes no sense to talk about f35. You know everything hi

                  good good good drinks
          2. saturn.mmm
            saturn.mmm 27 August 2013 16: 08 New
            +2
            Quote: Far East
            especially where he grew up and whose propaganda!

            About propaganda
    2. Krsk
      Krsk 27 August 2013 12: 35 New
      -1
      Worthy target
    3. Bezarius
      Bezarius 27 August 2013 13: 41 New
      +2
      And I got the T-50, because it can easily bend a whole bunch of F-35 due to its range: nate:

      PS: if you are such a fan of the American aviation industry, then you would fap at least on the F-22 -_- '
      1. Veles25
        Veles25 27 August 2013 14: 02 New
        -2
        And I’m T-50, because it can easily bend a whole bunch of F-35s due to its range. You don’t know anything about the T50. Everything is top secret. So they don’t make up stories
        1. Avenger711
          Avenger711 28 August 2013 02: 47 New
          0
          Of course, all the info about the F-35 is available. Oh well.
  6. Alez
    Alez 27 August 2013 12: 16 New
    +4
    That Americans with their dough, taught to fly a coffin. Notice the calm sea, otherwise it would have carried away like a dandelion. Tucked the coffin for takeoff and landing.
  • vadson
    vadson 27 August 2013 12: 04 New
    +3
    garbage some where characteristics? He may raise more, but how far will he take? Again, if the size of the aircraft is approximately the same in order to be stealth it is necessary to push the payload into the internal compartments. Who saw them? It will carry 3 kg more inside and yell to the whole world ...
  • Veles25
    Veles25 27 August 2013 12: 15 New
    +7
    t50 like
  • Veles25
    Veles25 27 August 2013 12: 16 New
    +3
    ............
  • Veles25
    Veles25 27 August 2013 12: 18 New
    +2
    ..............
  • Lone gunman
    Lone gunman 27 August 2013 12: 22 New
    +1
    J-31 funny machine, high-quality video would have to watch ...
    1. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 27 August 2013 12: 50 New
      0
      Quote: Lone gunman
      J-31 funny machine, high-quality video would have to watch ...

      What's so funny? F-35 with a Russian power plant.
  • Russ69
    Russ69 27 August 2013 12: 54 New
    +3
    And the T-50 is beautiful ..... smile
    1. Veles25
      Veles25 27 August 2013 13: 14 New
      +2
      ......... I like the T50. and i like f22
    2. Veles25
      Veles25 27 August 2013 13: 16 New
      0
      ............
  • Veles25
    Veles25 27 August 2013 13: 19 New
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    ...................
  • maksim
    maksim 27 August 2013 13: 30 New
    0
    here you have it made in China
  • Vlad_Mir
    Vlad_Mir 27 August 2013 13: 42 New
    +3
    I am personally more interested in the problem of a light fighter in Russia. Why is the Mig-35 not being developed and adequate, which is also not being purchased ?!
    1. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 27 August 2013 14: 57 New
      0
      Quote: Vlad_Mir
      I am personally more interested in the problem of a light fighter in Russia. Why is the Mig-35 not being developed and adequate, which is also not being purchased ?!

      There was talk of developing a drone drone.
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 27 August 2013 20: 59 New
        +1
        Quote: saturn.mmm
        There was talk of developing a drone drone.

        One of the concepts
        The image of the three-dimensional model “Proryva-U”, similar to the UAV “Skat”, also shows two other aircraft - reconnaissance “Proryv-R” and “Proryv-RLD”, intended for radar detection.
        Mig-35, that would be wonderful today, and for the future we need to work on such aircraft as in the picture and an airplane like PAK FA as a coordinating center, but the Chinese, as always, are ahead of the rest.
  • Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 27 August 2013 15: 57 New
    0
    Quote: Far East
    Dear Veles! and sho do you want to express these clips? hi

    Beautiful sky at sunset ...
  • solomon
    solomon 27 August 2013 17: 50 New
    0
    Chinese J-31 is similar to symbiosis.
    Back MIG-ovsky, in front of Lockheed-Martinovsky.

    Everyone and everything is copied.
    1. Suhov
      Suhov 27 August 2013 18: 21 New
      0
      Quote: solomon
      All and all copy.

      Previously - copied,
      Now - clone.
      sad
      The difference is significant,
      progress is evident
      and this cannot but alarm ...
      recourse
    2. patsantre
      patsantre 27 August 2013 20: 15 New
      0
      And which MIG ass copied? Raptorovsky he.
  • Konsmo
    Konsmo 27 August 2013 18: 40 New
    0
    Somehow I was trading with one businessman on behalf of our small factory for metal processing.
    He has a question.
    The same as your Chinese offer 50 percent cheaper.
    What can you say in favor of your products.
    I say we have steel 2 millimeters thick.
    Silence in the tube. And how many Chinese have a thickness?
    I say take a caliper and measure it. (To an office manager who most likely does not know the word caliper compasses.)
    The manager, however, knew that the price of our product is 3 percent of where it should be screwed, and determines the reliability.
    And all purchasing managers always know who they are doing something extreme.
    Subsequently, send the invoice, we will pay the advance.
    The main thing to the Chinese technology of Everything !! words in the right order to build and know the weaknesses.
    Russian will always steer. drinks
  • lucidlook
    lucidlook 27 August 2013 21: 21 New
    0
    in the next 10 years, J-20 and J-31 fighters have every chance of becoming the main attack aircraft of the PRC military aviation and take their share in the global market of tactical combat aircraft.

    And this, without a doubt, will happen, given the constant double-digit GDP growth and the capitalization of private campaigns, which will definitely attract qualified professionals to their side.
  • Uncle Serozha
    Uncle Serozha 27 August 2013 22: 32 New
    +1
    There is still too little information about the J-31 to be able to say anything specific. It is clear for now that with the current engines (ours) it does not enter cruising supersonic, which means that it is not a full-fledged fifth-generation fighter. Engine building is the old misfortune of the Chinese, so whether their new engine will be or not (and when it will be) is a big question.
    The ability of the J-31 to carry a greater load than the F-35 is not an achievement in itself. There are a lot of old fighters carrying a greater load than the F-35.
    It seems to me that it is not worthwhile to seriously discuss what is not. Thank you for the article, but there are no new data in it.
  • Avenger711
    Avenger711 28 August 2013 02: 57 New
    0
    Lord, how can you even post this on the site? The plane takes off 4 times, nobody knows anything about the performance characteristics, it will be sawn for another 15 years before the series. No, I’ve blown something, I must post it. They will put it on an air show at least, then it will be possible to say something. In the meantime, China has more zilch and show than real achievements. The USSR in technological level in aviation caught up with the United States only in the 80s, it is naive to expect great achievements from the Chinese.
    1. Basileus
      Basileus 28 August 2013 07: 45 New
      +1
      The fourth time in a month. It flies from the end of the 12th year, i.e. slightly less than PAK FA, but according to our information there was more)