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Another Su-30CM

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Russianplanes.net published on the web resource taken on August 21, 2013 at the airport of OJSC MM Gromov Flight Research Institute in Zhukovsky near Moscow a photograph of another new two-seat multi-role fighter Su-30CM - aircraft with tail number 56 black . This is the fifth known built car of this type, and the third new in 2013 - in November 2012 by Irkutsk aviation the plant (which is part of the Irkut Corporation Corporation) handed over aircraft with black tail numbers "01" and "02", and in 2013, aircraft with black tail numbers "54" were already lit up (in May in Akhtubinsk) and "55" (in August in Zhukovsky).



Su-30CM fighter with a tail number "56 black." Zhukovsky, 21.08.2013 (c) Mikhail Polyakov / russianplanes.net
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  1. svp67
    svp67 23 August 2013 10: 40
    33
    The news is good, but we all rejoice in individual copies, so when will we rejoice in the "dozens"?
    1. The comment was deleted.
      1. Dmitry 2246
        Dmitry 2246 23 August 2013 10: 50
        14
        Still nice. Good luck.
    2. Constantine
      Constantine 23 August 2013 10: 49
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      The news is good, but we all rejoice in individual copies, so when will we rejoice in the "dozens"?


      A similar question. Su-34s are not built at a bad pace, but these are somehow few sad However, the news is still good. good
      1. Russ69
        Russ69 23 August 2013 11: 06
        +2
        Quote: Constantine
        A similar question. Su-34s are not built at a slow pace, but these are somehow few. However, the news is still good.

        The pace is almost the same, for the year the same amount of practically the same. It’s just that they hand over a few, one at a time. That looks everything, as it is rather weak.
        By the way, the remaining plan for the Su-30 is promised to be completed in November. So soon there will be a small party.
        1. Apologet.Ru
          Apologet.Ru 23 August 2013 13: 05
          0
          hi
          It’s a great aeroplane, but besides its super-maneuverability, I like the fact that it flies to the English Channel without refueling ...
      2. Su24
        Su24 23 August 2013 15: 36
        +1
        Quote: Constantine
        Quote: svp67
        The news is good, but we all rejoice in individual copies, so when will we rejoice in the "dozens"?


        A similar question. Su-34s are not built at a bad pace, but these are somehow few sad However, the news is still good. good


        In December, I think about the top ten and will be taken))
    3. Retx
      Retx 23 August 2013 10: 49
      0
      At the end of the year, usually dozens are rented.
      1. afire
        afire 23 August 2013 11: 26
        +3
        before NG we will receive dozens of gifts! - I'm sure
    4. denson06
      denson06 23 August 2013 12: 21
      0
      The news is excellent .. the technology is excellent .. I would like to see two such news every day .. smile
    5. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 23 August 2013 14: 59
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      We rejoice in all single copies, so when will we rejoice in the "dozens"?

      Understood nothing? In November 12, cars with side numbers "01" and "02" "lit up" ... in August 2013 - board with number "55", now - "56"! And you say - "single copies"! A whole and powerful regiment! Therefore, let's not be sad, but rejoice.
    6. Wolf
      Wolf 23 August 2013 15: 32
      0
      01,02, ......... 54,55,56 board! ....... 100!
      2012 ............ 2013 ............... 2014!
    7. Veles25
      Veles25 23 August 2013 15: 41
      +7
      ..............
    8. Apologet.Ru
      Apologet.Ru 23 August 2013 18: 35
      +7
      hi
      Restoring someone deleted koment
      It’s a great aeroplane, but besides its super-maneuverability, I like the fact that it flies to the English Channel without refueling ...
    9. wellins
      wellins 24 August 2013 10: 29
      0
      he is only the second year in a series
  2. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 23 August 2013 10: 49
    +2
    It’s time to add to 1 toe ... Otherwise, we all figure in units. Our territory is huge.
  3. RBLip
    RBLip 23 August 2013 10: 51
    +1
    Quote: svp67
    The news is good, but we all rejoice in individual copies, so when will we rejoice in the "dozens"?

    it’s better for hundreds. but as you hear about one or two aircraft, I want to cry.
  4. il grand casino
    il grand casino 23 August 2013 10: 54
    +1
    "Beautiful, contagion" ... It's a pity only news like everything about single cars
  5. cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 23 August 2013 10: 57
    +3
    Well, thank God, + 1 is better than nothing. winked
  6. alone
    alone 23 August 2013 11: 00
    +2
    what how long will it take to fully equip the entire Air Force with these aircraft? at this pace, most likely I will not live to see it recourse
    1. Retx
      Retx 23 August 2013 11: 19
      0
      14 pieces this year, total GOZ for 60 cars. They will quickly shoot back, they will also ask for supplements hi
      1. alone
        alone 23 August 2013 11: 30
        +3
        60 cars for the whole of Russia !! this is minuscule
        1. Retx
          Retx 23 August 2013 11: 36
          0
          These are signed contracts at the moment. 30 to 15 and 30 to 16.
        2. donavi49
          donavi49 23 August 2013 11: 43
          +4
          Only Su-30СМ and only on signed contracts. Now they are trying to sign contracts for no more than 3 of the year, because the prices inside the contract are difficult to adjust, and inflation, improvements, subcontractors, and price hikes all hit the enterprise.

          By the way it 5 SU-30CM narrower (01, 02, 54, 55, 56).
    2. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 23 August 2013 23: 30
      +1
      Quote: lonely
      most likely I will not live up to this

      So do not worry about this, it’s nothing to you. And we, pull ourselves up and live. wink
  7. Shkodnick
    Shkodnick 23 August 2013 11: 07
    +3
    The good news is definitely ... true. when you hear about that. as the Ministry of Finance slaughtered a contract with an instant. The positive dissolves.
  8. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 23 August 2013 11: 22
    +3
    Kind! More need more! while the Americans in agony think when they managed to screw up on a number of key issues - packs need airplanes and scatter them at the bases! Faster, brothers, faster!
  9. Veles25
    Veles25 23 August 2013 11: 24
    +5
    Su-30SM ...
  10. Veles25
    Veles25 23 August 2013 11: 25
    +5
    Su-30SM will significantly increase the combat power of the Russian Air Force.
  11. eplewke
    eplewke 23 August 2013 11: 50
    +3
    The future adversary of Sushke is lightning and raptors. Let the T-50 deal with the raptors, and the lightning of 30 will be torn to pieces! Good luck steel bird!
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 23 August 2013 11: 55
      +5
      And also Eurofighter, Flu, Rafali, F-16, F-15, F-18.

      Judging by the geography of supplies, the Su-30 is unlikely to live a peaceful life, unfortunately.
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 23 August 2013 12: 01
        +5
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        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 23 August 2013 12: 02
          +5
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          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 23 August 2013 12: 05
            +4
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          2. Fofan
            Fofan 23 August 2013 20: 21
            0
            this is klyuyuyuyuyuv laughing
        2. Alex 241
          Alex 241 23 August 2013 12: 03
          +2
          ....................................
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 23 August 2013 12: 16
            +1
            front and rear cabs.
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 23 August 2013 12: 17
              +4
              ................................
              1. Rustam
                Rustam 23 August 2013 14: 11
                +3
                Alex 241
                front and rear cabs.


                Pictured is the cabin of the Su-30MKI Indian Air Force. ILS - Israeli Elbit-


                Thales ILS stands on ours, it stands on the Malaysian Su-30MKM Algerian ICA and our Su-30SM

                Explain looking for differences

                1-The first indication is not in Russian - that I doubt that the guys from the RPKB did not adhere French systems)))) I for example saw French indicators in Russian

                2-look at the ILS in the photo from Akhtubinsk and the ILS of the SU-30SM filming, it is larger and rounder
                1. PLO
                  PLO 23 August 2013 14: 51
                  +3
                  by the way, another very interesting photo of the Su-30SM



                  apparently, the Su-30SM will have the same cabin as the Su-35S and T-50, i.e. two widescreen displays

                2. Retx
                  Retx 23 August 2013 14: 58
                  +3
                  And another pathos photo SM
                  1. PLO
                    PLO 23 August 2013 15: 08
                    +4
                    And a little more pathos)

                    1. Fofan
                      Fofan 23 August 2013 20: 24
                      0
                      like rooks arrived?
                    2. soldier's grandson
                      soldier's grandson 25 August 2013 09: 55
                      -1
                      installation, video of flights of airplanes and helicopters is unrealistic, noticeable to the naked eye
                      1. wrungel
                        wrungel 25 August 2013 23: 52
                        +1
                        In vain you doubt. This is "Wolf's Gate", at the bottom right is Raevskaya.
        3. Corsair
          Corsair 23 August 2013 12: 35
          +1
          Alex 241


          Good selection ...
          And the plane is beautiful, infection!
    2. eagle11
      eagle11 23 August 2013 11: 57
      +1
      The future enemy of the Su-30SM is the J-11B and Su-30MKK (of the modern ones), as well as the Su-35 PLA Air Force, there are no other opponents at Domna.
      1. alexng
        alexng 23 August 2013 14: 07
        +1
        I mean other hopeless victims?
  12. Alikovo
    Alikovo 23 August 2013 12: 13
    0
    it’s a pity that few new planes are being bought.
  13. Veles25
    Veles25 23 August 2013 12: 27
    +3
    ..........................
  14. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 23 August 2013 12: 29
    +3
    As the saying goes: "... we will count chickens in autumn"!
  15. Veles25
    Veles25 23 August 2013 12: 29
    +5
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  16. Veles25
    Veles25 23 August 2013 12: 30
    +1
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  17. Gakkoga
    Gakkoga 23 August 2013 12: 31
    +1
    The country was not built right away, let's press the "kids", grit our teeth and spin the defense industry, now we need new equipment like new air!
  18. Veles25
    Veles25 23 August 2013 12: 32
    +2
    ...........................
  19. corrado
    corrado 23 August 2013 12: 34
    +2
    This is the fifth famous built machine of this type, and the third new one in 2013 - in November 2012 by the Irkutsk Aviation Plant (part of OJSC "Corporation" Irkut ")


    And how many UNKNOWN?
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 23 August 2013 12: 38
      12
      .....................
      1. mivmim
        mivmim 23 August 2013 13: 49
        +2
        Thanks, great movie.
    2. Ustin
      Ustin 23 August 2013 15: 06
      +2
      Yes, there is already a regiment.
  20. Mikhail Topor
    Mikhail Topor 23 August 2013 12: 44
    17
    etozh how successfully it was necessary to create that dryer, the first, on the basis of which modifications are now being made !!! let’s say we still don’t know how to make commonplace cars, but takes pride in airplanes. And this is not urapatriotism, but that forgotten feeling of pride in the Motherland!
  21. dizelniy
    dizelniy 23 August 2013 13: 23
    -1
    Daaaaaa, NATO is in a panic.
    1. APOCALIPTIC
      APOCALIPTIC 25 August 2013 19: 09
      -5
      Quote: dizelniy
      Daaaaaa, NATO is in a panic.



      Oh yes, such a panic, probably everyone has already died laughing ...... The rehearsal of the “presidential” air show, which should take place on the day of the opening of MAKS-2013 in Zhukovsky, ended in embarrassment. According to MK sources present at this event, on August 22, none of the four Sukhoi combat aircraft, three T-50s and one Su-35, declared in as the main spectacular "nails" of the air show.
      http://www.utro.ru/articles/2013/08/24/1139646.shtml
      http://www.mk.ru/politics/army/article/2013/08/23/904208-chetyire-noveyshih-boev
      yih-samoleta-ne-smogli-vzletet-na-repetitsii-maks2013.html
  22. saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm 23 August 2013 13: 42
    +5
    It seems that something began to improve in the sense that such news appears periodically and the time between periods is reduced.
    Beautiful and formidable plane.
    1. Lone gunman
      Lone gunman 23 August 2013 13: 50
      +1
      yes, a little and then joyfully.
  23. Vtel
    Vtel 23 August 2013 13: 46
    0
    August 27 - The official opening day of MAKS 2013 - should be there to show. Huge sky to our bird!
  24. minimum
    minimum 23 August 2013 13: 47
    -12 qualifying.
    On August 22, in preparation for the "presidential show" at MAKS-2013, for various reasons, 3 T-50 and 1 SU-35, 1 of the T-50 did not take off, by the way, "dead on the way." only this SU-30SM flew successfully. So it goes. What is sent to combat units (a reasonable question) - I don't even want to think about it.
    PS funny that there is no news about this. probably because it’s not very patriotic?)
    1. Lone gunman
      Lone gunman 23 August 2013 14: 17
      +2
      throw off the link to the "not patriotic" news ... pliz, or were you personally present at these events?
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 23 August 2013 14: 20
        0
        Unfortunately he is right.
        Four newest combat aircraft could not take off at the rehearsal of MAKS 2013


        At the training of the "presidential" show all fifth-generation cars were embarrassed - the "nails" of the exhibition

        The rehearsal of the "presidential" air show, which should take place on the day of the opening of MAKS-2013 in Zhukovsky, ended in embarrassment. According to MK sources present at this event, on August 22, none of the four Sukhoi combat aircraft, three T-50s and one Su-35, declared in as the main spectacular "nails" of the air show.

        max-2013 vladimir putin t-50 su-35
        T-50
        By tradition, Vladimir Putin has always opened the MAKS. At the end of the official part, he was invited to the VIP platform, where he watched the flights, so the air show on the opening day of the exhibition was called "presidential".

        Preparation for it is usually carried out in the most thorough way: participants are pre-watched, selected, instructed, approved a flight plan, and then several more rehearsals are conducted. Due to the busy schedule of the head of state, flights for him should not last more than an hour, that is, all passages and air turns are calculated literally every second.

        Since there are usually many who want to present their equipment to the president, the struggle for a place in the flight plan of the company is ruthless. Applicants are persistently trying to find out how long the president plans to stay on the show - an hour or less, depending on this, the competitors are shifted to the most inconvenient time.

        And although this year Vladimir Putin, they say, is not going to honor the Zhukovsky show with his presence (Dmitry Medvedev will be at the opening instead), no one has canceled the concept of “presidential show”, however, as well as the hope that the president will appear at MAKS.

        The obvious favorites of the air show are Sukhoi combat aircraft, which should represent the strength, power, combat and technical superiority of Russian aviation in the sky. However, with such "superiority" in rehearsal on Thursday there was a nuisance.

        “At the time set by the planned table,” MK told one of the participants in the show, “four Sukhov’s machines didn’t get into the air at once: three fifth-generation T-5 aircraft and one Su-50.” According to him, at the very beginning, when helicopters and Tupolev machines were spinning their program in the sky, it became known that instead of the previously planned three T-35s, only two would fly, because one, as the organizers put it, “died already in the process training. "

        Then, when the remaining two did not take off, the information passed (it was, of course, preliminary): the T-50 had a failure in the power supply system. Although, how this could happen with both cars at once is not clear.

        As for the Su-35 (generation 4 ++), those present who had walkie-talkies during the show say they heard the dispatcher on air duplicate the phrase: “two hydraulic systems failed during engine start-up”.

        As a result, only one Sukhoi brand combat vehicle flew into the air - the Su-30SM aircraft, which has a very indirect relation to the “dry” ones, since it is produced by the Irkut Corporation.

        Summing up the results of the air rehearsal at the end of the day, the Director General of the LII Gromov Pavel Vlasov, who is the chairman of the commission for the preparation and organization of MAKS-2013, said that a dress rehearsal of the show is already planned on Saturday. If similar things are repeated on it, then the fallen planes will be removed from the “presidential” show.
        1. Retx
          Retx 23 August 2013 14: 57
          10
          Only Moskovsky Komsomolets has this sketch, for bloggers according to photo reports everything flies.
        2. donavi49
          donavi49 23 August 2013 14: 59
          11
          MK = Izvestia.

          Here is a report from Lystseva - http://fotografersha.livejournal.com/425851.html

          Everything is there, at least 1 054 definitely took off, taking into account the fact that on the MAX all 3 T-50, then at least a lie is that all three did not take off.

          Also, Su-35 twists aerobatics, calmly. Well, yes, Vorobyov’s photo is a PHOTOSHOP !!! 111 He couldn’t turn 22 aerobatics !!! ONLY MK THE TRUTH IS SPEAKED !!! 111 wassat

          And yes, a dress rehearsal with the Chinese and other guests on Saturday, that is, tomorrow.

          About the fact that Su-30СМ has a weak relationship to Sukhoi, because Irkut collects it, it's just the finish and the diagnosis. By the way, Irkut has 2 owners - UAC and Sukhoi, and Pogosyan is chairman of the board of directors.
        3. Lone gunman
          Lone gunman 23 August 2013 15: 08
          +3
          interpretation of the events of the correspondent of Moskovsky Komsomolets (MK) Olga Bozhevoy, as I don’t really trust MK - a "complicated" newspaper ...
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 23 August 2013 14: 22
      10
      Too fat wassat .

      1) There will be no presidential screening, like Putin himself, this was announced on August 18 - "Russian President Vladimir Putin will not visit the MAKS-27 air show in Zhukovsky, which opens on August 2013," Vedomosti was told by two heads of companies belonging to the United Aircraft Building corporation (UAC), and a government source. "
      2) There is nothing similar on the Radio Scanner, but there are about the Chinese, about everything in general:
      Russian Knights rose to the sky
      Leading Alekseev 71302 departed from True
      T-50 turns this aerobatics over the point.
      "Golden Eagles" follow to Proud
      Tu-xnumx has come
      Tu-xnumx this
      Su-Xnumx aerobatics over the point.
      An-26
      A pair of Su-27
      IL-476 once again on take-off
      Chinese on 124.250 :)
      MiG-35 takes off

      As you can see, everyone is listening wink .

      3) At least 052 and 054 T-50 flew, there are pictures.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 23 August 2013 15: 57
        +9
        By the way, here is a video from Vesti. T-50 makes Cobra fellow

        http://www.vesti.ru/only_video.html?vid=531660
  25. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 23 August 2013 13: 53
    +3
    Very beautiful plane ...
    Just admiring such a graceful power.
  26. Veles25
    Veles25 23 August 2013 13: 57
    +5

    Russia needs UAVs
    1. Wolf
      Wolf 23 August 2013 17: 32
      +1
      This is good for Tuareg in the Sahara, and the electronics engineer will easily crush the electronics!
  27. 6 sunrise 9
    6 sunrise 9 23 August 2013 14: 11
    +2
    5 Su30SM, it is small enough so far has not increased the strength of our Air Force. Although 2 contracts for the supply of 60 Su30CM have been signed. So we are waiting for large deliveries by 2015.
  28. Andrii
    Andrii 23 August 2013 14: 20
    -1
    Our pilots are brave guys! Air force!
  29. individual
    individual 23 August 2013 16: 06
    0
    Su-30SM is a beautiful and elegant product.
    This is the evolutionary development of the Su-30MKI export family, well developed in recent years.
  30. APASUS
    APASUS 23 August 2013 17: 26
    0
    The news is great, but with the adoption of the unit it is time to tie.
  31. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 23 August 2013 18: 50
    +1
    And I’m happy with one plane. If only it were done honestly. The chicken, as you know, pecks at the grain. We definitely will no longer have such air forces as in the USSR.
    1. Nitup
      Nitup 23 August 2013 21: 49
      0
      Quote: Kibalchish
      We will definitely no longer have such air forces as in the USSR

      Which ones?
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 23 August 2013 23: 14
        +2
        Quote: Nitup
        Which ones?

        In 1991, the USSR Air Force totaled 211 aviation regiments and more than 14 aircraft, including 000 combat. The total number of strategic bombers and missile carriers was 7000 aircraft.
        1. Nitup
          Nitup 24 August 2013 00: 27
          +1
          Quote: saturn.mmm
          In 1991, the USSR Air Force totaled 211 aviation regiments and more than 14 aircraft, including 000 combat. The total number of strategic bombers and missile carriers was 7000 aircraft.

          Thank you, but I would still like to receive a response from the author of the comment
          1. saturn.mmm
            saturn.mmm 24 August 2013 12: 14
            +1
            Quote: Nitup
            Thank you, but I would still like to receive a response from the author of the comment

            And what do you hold in your hands on the picture in your profile?
            1. Nitup
              Nitup 24 August 2013 21: 59
              +1
              three liter cans
              1. saturn.mmm
                saturn.mmm 25 August 2013 22: 43
                0
                Quote: Nitup
                three liter cans

                They look very unusual, maybe explain. Nitup Putin
                1. Nitup
                  Nitup 26 August 2013 12: 58
                  +1
                  Yes FIG knows. Just liked the picture.
                  1. saturn.mmm
                    saturn.mmm 26 August 2013 15: 45
                    0
                    Quote: Nitup
                    Yes FIG knows.

                    I once encountered something similar, but I just can’t remember, so I asked.
  32. mithridate
    mithridate 23 August 2013 18: 52
    0
    keep it up!
  33. sergey158-29
    sergey158-29 23 August 2013 20: 41
    0
    So I want to say! Once again, once again, many more many times ...
  34. Alex 241
    Alex 241 23 August 2013 20: 51
    +3
    On August 23, 2013, during the First Hierarch’s visit to the Novosibirsk Metropolitanate, His Holiness Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia Kirill visited the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant named after V.P. Chkalova.

    Together with His Holiness Metropolitan Tikhon of Novosibirsk and Berdsk, the plenipotentiary of the President of the Russian Federation in the Siberian Federal District, V.A. Tolokonsky, Governor of the Novosibirsk Region V.A. Yurchenko, mayor of Novosibirsk V.F. Gorodetsky and other officials.

    At workshop No. 9 (final assembly workshop), the Primate of the Russian Orthodox Church was greeted by the Deputy General Director of OJSC Sukhoi Company - Director of the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant named after V.P. Chkalov "S.A. Smirnov and the management of the plant.

    Accompanied by S.A. Smirnova His Holiness Patriarch Kirill visited the workshop and got acquainted with the assembly process at the last stage of the Su-34 front-line bomber.

    Then, on the square in front of the workshop, His Holiness addressed the factory management, employees of the enterprise and members of their families with a word.

    “We have many problems, which were primarily the result of the tragic 1990s, when the military industry and the Armed Forces were practically destroyed. But today other times have come, and our military, Armed forces are being built, they are strengthening, and we see this, ”said the Holy Patriarch in particular. - There are new examples of excellent technology. And in order for Russia to truly be able to defend its freedom and its independence, to remain a sovereign state, for Russia to be able to determine its own development paths, to determine what we call the values ​​of national life, it is necessary that it has those products that you create with your own hands. ”

    “All this is directly related to the spiritual life of people,” continued the Primate of the Russian Church. - In conditions of unfreedom, in the conditions of imposing various kinds of false philosophies, standards of living, in conditions when so many people lose any difference in understanding good and evil, truth and lies, it is very important that the country retains the opportunity to live according to those principles, in which are transmitted from generation to generation spiritual values ​​that unite our people and shape the face of man. "

    As a gift to the factory, His Holiness transmitted the image of Christ the Savior.

    On behalf of the staff of the enterprise, Director of the plant S.A. Smirnov greeted His Holiness the Patriarch and presented commemorative gifts to His Holiness.

    Believers were given icons of the Holy Savior with the Patriarchal blessing.
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 23 August 2013 20: 53
      0
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      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 23 August 2013 20: 53
        +1
        ........................................
  35. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 23 August 2013 20: 53
    0
    Quote: Lone gunman
    interpretation of the events of the correspondent of Moskovsky Komsomolets (MK) Olga Bozhevoy, as I don’t really trust MK - a "complicated" newspaper ...

    Nearby is a link in the "Picture of the day" pop-up window to Telegrafist. They say that it's a pure lie, everything went hockey.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 23 August 2013 22: 18
      +1
      http://michaeldec.livejournal.com/4359.html

      Here is the spotter’s report - there is both Maria 35 and Su-50 and T-051 054 - therefore, 2 T-50 already flew with proofs wink .
  36. smiths xnumx
    smiths xnumx 23 August 2013 21: 57
    +1
    SM is a re-chopped MKI - that is, a more modern radar, a cooler engine, and so on.
    M2 is much simpler and cheaper - it takes type as to help the Su-27UB.
    And they are produced in different factories. The scheme is clickable.
  37. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 23 August 2013 23: 40
    +1
    There are eight of them - we are two. The alignment before the fight
    Not ours, but we will play!
    Seryozha! Hold on, we do not shine with you
    But the trump cards must be equalized.
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 23 August 2013 23: 46
      +3
      Hi Lesh. Still, we are the best!
      1. studentmati
        studentmati 24 August 2013 00: 00
        0
        Quote: Alex 241
        Anyway, we are the best!


        The fact is undeniable and repeatedly proven! drinks
      2. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 24 August 2013 00: 04
        -1
        Quote: Alex 241
        .All the same, we are the best!
        Sasha, this is not even discussed drinks ! In vests are born)))
  38. dizelniy
    dizelniy 24 August 2013 00: 15
    -2
    Quote: Ustin

    Ustin


    Yesterday, 15: 06

    ↑ ↓ New


    Yes, I already have a regiment

    They are distributed among the shelves (bases) instead of sparks, nobody is going to use their capabilities like in Lipetsk.
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  40. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 24 August 2013 18: 23
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    they will be sold as usual, there is demand
  41. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 25 August 2013 09: 52
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    in November there were board numbers 01,02 and then 54, the question is to whom 52 aircraft were sold?
  42. sashka
    sashka 25 August 2013 17: 52
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    what a beautiful and terrible .. Impressive ..