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Fake policy. Option "Bulk"

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“Whether he has flown in his head for five years in a day, and something has clouded, or he is not quite all right, but his statement that political scientists need to be fed to beasts is unacceptable and outrageous. What does he do in politics if he doesn't look serious? ”Said one incomprehensible political scientist about Alexei Navalny. Really, what is he doing in politics?




In his face we are dealing with fake (fake - English) politics in its pure form, when instead of discussing essentially go to the individual, and in the course go insults, ridicule, cynical jokes with subtext, accusations (today in the fashion of corruption charges, but it does not matter). In fact, this is fraud, political corruption, but criminal law does not apply to the political sphere, and such a term does not exist, but fraudsters therefore like to engage in part-time politics.

Recurrences of the fake policy happened before, but today it is becoming a political strategy, moreover, a global trend. The “human rights policy”, LBHT policies are fakes that hide the other, real goals of their organizers: interfering in the internal affairs of foreign states for self-serving purposes. If big politics became fake, then political adventurers, as they say, God himself commanded her to do it.

The “Navalny” phenomenon is our home-grown fake, political fraud, and in addition, prostitution with “Western values”, grants, sponsors and “Russian nationalists”, burdened by a dark “legal” past.

Naive political scientists are amazed that Navalny has no economic, foreign or domestic "policy" - and he simply does not need it. In this hypothetical case, he has “experts” whom he allegedly can always attract, but in reality he has long been with them, apparently on the content.

A companion of Navalny in Yabloko, a certain Tareeva, is frank today: “And I don’t believe in a pretty picture that many people believed in, in which a young fine lawyer went one-on-one to fight a huge state machine. This can not be simply because it does not happen. History doesn't know such a lonely hero. I would not believe it, even if I did not personally know Navalny, but I personally know him. I believe that smart, strong and influential people stand behind Navalny, this is their project, they made a bet on it. ”

What is happiness fake? All people are not sinless, so he will always find something to postebat. You can find fault with any Sobyanin, Putin and even the Pope, find some “incriminating evidence” - and then let them figure it out ... In general, this is nothing new - the usual type of demagogue, in all its disgusting magnificence. Anything that falls on him is “God's dew” because he is a priori “white and fluffy”. When asked about "legal" affairs, he takes the pose of an offended righteous person. Therefore, political analysts who dare to question his greatness, you need to feed the animals in the zoo. This "joke", but also fighting weapon fake hinting that in every joke there is something ...

The cat always knows whose meat has eaten, so the fake always knows its true place, and even is somewhat afraid of the political “power chair” - because it does not need it at all. It is necessary for its “sponsors”, and he will be at ease in it, and he knows that at the first failure he will be handed over, and his “sponsors” will eat him. His element is the “movement” itself, for which he receives his “moment of glory” and that is attached to it.

Hence the tactic of Navalny - balancing on the verge of a foul. But today, when he got to the "electoral distance" - and then beyond the foul. And he is doing everything possible to be removed from this distance - in this case, he reaches the maximum fake scandal.

Therefore, he is not only grimacing, but also substituted as he can. “Foreign financing”, dirty technologies from the “independent” “Navalny Brothers” - will there be anything further? The worst option for him is to participate in the mayoral elections, to receive his “legitimate” minimum, which, with his loud promises, is an obvious failure. However, therefore, the goal of “power” is to force him to participate in elections, for the sake of this she is ready to close her eyes on his “legal” past, at least for a while.

When the Kremlin’s “party” policy was defined by Surkov, the fakes were indicatively “screwed” for formal reasons, like hooligans, but then it became annoying, especially since the fakes themselves, and Western journalists, clearly got sadomasochistic pleasure from it. It seems that the new internal political strategy “after Surkov” consists in squeezing fakes, like ulcers, into public space, so that everyone can feel their real smell. After opening the abscess, he is known to be easier to treat.

Any psychologist will tell you that persuading "to stop a tantrum" will never lead to anything, and the best "medicine" in this case is a common slap in the face. In the case of political hysteria, a good “public slap in the face” is therefore the best way, so our doctor is best practiced by Dr. Zhirinovsky, who has a lot of practice in this area. Not everyone likes it, so what it is.

The fake smell of the current election campaign is, of course, not for refined noses, but what can you do if the Kremlin has decided to try to turn their weapons against the fakes. In the summer, when even the ordinary life in Russia stops, this tactic can be successful, and now it's summer in Russia.
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  1. DEMENTIY
    DEMENTIY 16 August 2013 08: 38
    26
    Change Russia, start from Moscow.

    Bulk.
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 16 August 2013 08: 48
      26
      I agree from cover to cover. Even despite this curtsy.
      What is fake happiness? All people are not sinless, therefore, he will always find something to ponder over. You can find fault with any Sobyanin, Putin and even the Pope of Rome, find some kind of “compromising evidence” - and then let them understand ...

      The essence of Navalnongo is not to win, I say a long time.
      Again, well, they will choose Navalny, and then what? What can he offer us something? How to develop the economy? What will happen with the military-industrial complex. I have not heard anything from him. And when he becomes personal, it’s generally ..
      And a man who calls his supporters rams and hamsters, like this ... wassat
      In general, in the furnace of Navalny, along with all his gang - a watering can!
      And yes, I put the article plus.
      1. little man
        little man 16 August 2013 10: 05
        32 th
        In general, in the furnace of Navalny, along with all his gang - a watering can!
        Yeah. But why trifle - all in the furnace. Leave edrosov well and grease for seasoning.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 16 August 2013 10: 35
          +9
          Quote: man
          Well, and grease for seasoning.


          I agree, the main fighter against corruption on Maybach for 1 million raccoons killed, but on the counter on Tverskaya, where without him
          1. Constantine
            Constantine 16 August 2013 11: 49
            12
            Quote: Vadivak
            I agree, the main fighter against corruption on Maybach for 1 million raccoons killed, but on the counter on Tverskaya, where without him


            Even Rolls-Royce Phantom in full stuffing is not so much. You probably mixed up Maybach with Buggati. hi No need to play with numbers. It's not good and shameful hi
            1. fzr1000
              fzr1000 16 August 2013 12: 58
              +8
              Yes. Let it be 500-600 thousand dollars. We are for honesty!
              1. Constantine
                Constantine 16 August 2013 13: 25
                +6
                Quote: fzr1000
                Yes. Let it be 500-600 thousand dollars. We are for honesty!


                And not even so much, but many times less. There's a meaning. When the numbers are overestimated, there is a comparative reflex and an excessive reaction, which is not supported by anything. Particularly sensitive then they will go to spread this information and pass it off as truth, encounter a knowledgeable person and there will be a hard butt. What for? It is better to operate with real numbers. wink
            2. Vadivak
              Vadivak 16 August 2013 15: 05
              +4
              Quote: Constantine
              Even Rolls-Royce Phantom in full stuffing is not so much. You probably mixed up Maybach with Buggati. hi No need to play with numbers. It's not good and shameful hi


              You go to the Maybach website, look at the prices, then shame

              Price for Maybach Exelero (Maybach Exceller)
              The price starts from 240 million rubles.

              The owner of the most expensive sports car in the world was the American rapper Brian Williams, who without hesitation paid for Maybach Exelero, whose technical specifications beat all known records, more than $ 8 million. Such a PR company will forever remain in the history of engineering as one of the most expensive in the world. . It is possible that if in the next few years this record is not broken by competitors, then the advertising campaign can be entered in the Guinness Book of Records.
            3. Hon
              Hon 16 August 2013 16: 32
              +3
              Quote: Constantine
              Even Rolls-Royce Phantom in full stuffing is not so much. You probably mixed up Maybach with Buggati. hi No need to play with numbers. It's not good and shameful

              Maybach is more expensive than a roll-royce, there are copies much more expensive than $ 1. Zhirik like armor, so lam is quite an adequate price for it
          2. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 21 August 2013 14: 17
            -1
            Well, for his circus, Zhirik Maybach "deserved" 20 years of his circus, I think it's worth it, this hearse!
        2. klimpopov
          klimpopov 16 August 2013 10: 42
          +1
          Yeah. But why trifle - all in the furnace. Leave edrosov well and grease for seasoning.

          Not! If so, then leave no one!
          1. Val_y
            Val_y 16 August 2013 11: 16
            +2
            And who instead ??? And who will burn people, their children, wives, think a good citizen No. ("whistle do not carry bags")
            1. klimpopov
              klimpopov 16 August 2013 12: 19
              +5
              You probably didn't notice the sarcasm. Well, "into the furnace" is rather a figurative expression. Let's just say - on the outskirts of political life. Better yet, on the outskirts of our vast Motherland. Is that clearer?
              1. yurii p
                yurii p 16 August 2013 16: 50
                +1
                Yes, yes, and where there is no TV, electricity, and from the achievements of civilization, a shovel and pickaxe.
          2. 6216390
            6216390 16 August 2013 11: 21
            +2
            Quote: klimpopov
            Not! If so, then leave no one!

            It will become boring to live, and at least they will have fun.
            1. alicante11
              alicante11 16 August 2013 15: 07
              +1
              It will become boring to live, and at least they will have fun.


              Zadornov and Petrosyan are cheaper.
        3. DEfindER
          DEfindER 16 August 2013 11: 51
          +6
          Quote: man
          Leave edrosov well and grease for seasoning.

          edrosov’s percentage of liberals is off the charts now, one bear is worth it, only the Communists somehow keep them from antisocial reforms, if they had the will to do unlimited working hours, cut the social program, the austerity regime that the bear wants to sell, and would get crisis like in europe ..
          1. PB1995
            PB1995 16 August 2013 12: 02
            -7
            in the Duma only Communists somehow keep them from antisocial reforms
            Communists in the Duma - 92, and edrosov - 238. How do they keep them?

            social reduced
            As far as I know, there was such a topic that defense spending is growing due to reduced funding for education and medicine.

            austerity mode
            If we spend money beyond measure and do not save, we will again get a crisis.
            1. DEfindER
              DEfindER 16 August 2013 13: 04
              +4
              Quote: PB1995
              Communists in the Duma - 92, and edrosov - 238. How do they keep them?

              Repeatedly boycotted the vote in the Duma, preventing the adoption of anti-popular decisions.
              Quote: PB1995
              If we spend money beyond measure and do not save, we will again get a crisis.

              Nobody offers to spend beyond measure, we do not even spend them to the best, because Libels prefer to keep money in Western debt papers, instead of spending them on social programs and internal development. And the endless accumulation of funds in Western banks knows what leads to, they will find a violation of human rights in our country and freeze accounts ..
              1. igor.borov775
                igor.borov775 17 August 2013 02: 34
                +1
                Not everything is so simple, China spends a lot of it on industrialization inside the country, Old production takes out and builds modern, Now companies that have old equipment become uncomfortable, Internal standards are tightened and those who cannot produce such products begin to lose concessional lending, Most importantly, product standards pledged not lower than the world ones, but I mean the state keeps it in government securities of other countries, Now an attempt is being made to invest in the economy with us, do you think it easily happens there over the hill, they resist such decisions and even liberal economists are driving a wave they say everything is stolen,
            2. igor.borov775
              igor.borov775 17 August 2013 02: 08
              +1
              Hi, I have been reading all the familiar speeches for 30 years now, And please explain to me such a passage, Russian Railways didn’t fulfill the cargo transportation plan compared to last year, but received very high profits, Explain how this is possible in a normal country, Vesti-24 TV is sometimes just amaze with their information that our large companies officially announce, What is it talking about! Listen and see what our largest companies say, A little less was made and more profit, True, there were some who made more and earned like last year, It was said that the world market price drop but not inside the country, This is about Gazprom, This is about us now now one piece of news for thought, Since 2009, the Yankees have been printing bucks, and now it turned out in America there is not enough cash where they have flown it, We don’t have to consider us ignoramuses, it’s just annoying that these liberals are trying to justify,
            3. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 21 August 2013 15: 21
              0
              Just about the crisis in the USSR, these are tales invented by the CIA and other fighters !!! Initially, the revolution was made by the Germans, with the money of "American" Jews, by "Russian" Bundavian Jews led by Trotsky, but Great STALIN broke their freebies, for which in 53g But the guys with a fad, cunning guys, before Andropov's accession, the guys like the marked one were already sitting at the right points, the country was destroyed by the Jewish Zionist underground, in the form of a speculator, a planner, a freight forwarder who did not bring goods on time, shorter than the 5th column, with For Stalin, the MGB worked, but under Andropov, the set went, Shchelokov apparently got in the way, so they removed it !! In short, our Russian carelessness, maybe ... eternal! Gorbachev ... and the traitor does not fit this into my head, but he betrayed and how many of them are in power ...
          2. Alexss
            Alexss 16 August 2013 14: 45
            +1
            call a spade a spade "oligarchic prostitutes". Liberals (and even derogatory liberals) do not smell there!
      2. Val_y
        Val_y 16 August 2013 11: 13
        +3
        So that's the point, "war x ... I, the main thing is maneuvers." Stirring up the water, hysterics, screams, the main thing is to talk about it, and not about programs, actions, plans, the party-goer does not need them.
      3. Alexss
        Alexss 16 August 2013 14: 58
        -4
        but I put a minus to the article and just because of:
        Quote: klimpopov
        What is fake happiness? All people are not sinless, therefore, he will always find something to ponder over. You can find fault with any Sobyanin, Putin and even the Pope of Rome, find some kind of “compromising evidence” - and then let them understand ...


        because: 1. already as an axiom it is presented that in politics it is impossible to find a more or less honest person and that you can find "compromising evidence" on anyone
        2. why one who has a stigma in a cannon (Sobyanin, Putin) is possible, but for others (Navalny) it is impossible. This is a double standards policy!

        Z.Y. Personally, I am for the fact that both of them are planted, or at least expelled from the country
        1. alicante11
          alicante11 16 August 2013 15: 09
          -6
          Let's just say that the GDP and the Sobyanins made a deal with the investigation and fell under an amnesty :).
        2. CTEPX
          CTEPX 16 August 2013 16: 37
          +1
          Quote: AlexSS
          why one with a stigma in a cannon (Sobyanin, Putin) is possible, but for others (Navalny) it is impossible.

          It's simple)). Some want to live in Russia (and where will they go?), Others want to fuck it)).
      4. dustycat
        dustycat 16 August 2013 18: 01
        0
        Quote: klimpopov
        I agree from cover to cover.

        What do you agree with?
        One fake, such as fake specials, argues for another fake that he is engaged in fake.
        Political fuss, called "life", is the occupation of idlers inventing how to justify the failure of these idlers to perform the functions that are entrusted to them according to the rules (law) invented by these idlers.
        If these loafers (who call themselves politicians) performed the functions assigned to them by the people, other loafers (political scientists) would have nothing to justify their existence and the existence of previous loafers.
        After all, politicians are chosen for this purpose so that they are engaged in managing the economy, and not by reasoning about how to do this.
      5. SPACE
        SPACE 16 August 2013 20: 57
        +1
        Quote: klimpopov
        Again, well, they will choose Navalny, and then what?

        Bulk is just some kind of enchanted boy, with a pipe. wink Devilishly cunning plan ...? what Bulk, Moscow measures! The next day, all the marshes will become edros.laughing Long live the march of trillions! wassat
      6. zvereok
        zvereok 17 August 2013 11: 19
        0
        Quote: klimpopov
        I agree from cover to cover. Even despite this curtsy.
        What is fake happiness? All people are not sinless, therefore, he will always find something to ponder over. You can find fault with any Sobyanin, Putin and even the Pope of Rome, find some kind of “compromising evidence” - and then let them understand ...


        The bottom line is that while power is in power any incriminating evidence. Those. ANY, will not lead to anything. The authorities will simply make the face a brick, and the SK will not be aroused. The matter is complicated when the government will share itself with the real, and not lured, opposition. Then ignore uncomfortable questions will not succeed.

        T.O. fakes are Zhirik, the Communist Party and the CP. Bulk, this is something that could give a chance to ask the authorities. At least on the basis of this, this chance should be given to him, despite the fact that he may well miss him.

        And what, before the Pope, Duc is full of questions to him despite his holiness. For example:

        In his book "From the First Person" (2000), V. Putin admitted that "some firms did not fulfill the main condition of the contract - they did not bring food from abroad or did not bring it in full. They violated their obligations to the city ... I think that the city, of course, did not do everything it could. It was necessary to work more closely with law enforcement agencies and knock out the promised from these companies with a stick. But it was pointless to sue them - they dissolved immediately ... "

        This is one of the facts, so to speak, the tip of the iceberg ... But Navalny was already gutted as far as he could and doused with shit from head to toe.
        1. Basil123
          Basil123 17 August 2013 16: 54
          +1
          he doused himself with Natsik am but about his program it ............ no words lol nothing to discuss request about the sins of ay on a branch there is no sin ............ silence request the whole question is for purposes and they have to do with him .. the people who follow him like homosexuals have a certain percentage and here there is a percentage of sectarians that they are most likely belay are being loud screams pr nude sad politically, he’s already there and the more his mouth opens, the less weight
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 16 August 2013 08: 49
      +7
      Quote: Author Victor Kamenev
      his statement that political scientists need to be fed to beasts is unacceptable and outrageous


      Of course, it is unacceptable, the animals must be pitied, after all, some will immediately become infected, not all animals can eat dead meat. Recently one toad (sorry I didn’t remember) said on TV that "the appetites of the poor are growing."
    3. Trailer
      Trailer 16 August 2013 08: 55
      14
      Bulk is a dark horse. But, nevertheless, I like how the bribe-taking of our bureaucrats exposes. An example is Sobyanin. First, all candidates agreed to a public debate, then Navalny gives out a piece of data on an apartment in the center of Moscow, with an area of ​​308 squares, which is recorded on the 16-year-old daughter of Sobyanin. The cost of the hut in the market is 115 million. Sobyanin over the past 10 years on his declarations earned 27 millions. In addition, this apartment is an official apartment, but it was privatized after only a year of arrival in it, although only citizens belonging to the category of orphans, disabled people or victims of natural disasters can privatize such housing. Which of these categories belonged to the daughter of Sobyanin? Oh, yes, I forgot to add it - after the publication of the data, Sobyanin refused to public debate.
      1. avt
        avt 16 August 2013 09: 47
        20
        Quote: Karavan
        Bulk is a dark horse. But, nevertheless, I like how the bribe-taking of our bureaucrats exposes. An example is Sobyanin. First, all candidates agreed to a public debate, then Navalny gives out a piece of data on an apartment in the center of Moscow, an area of ​​308 squares, which is recorded on the 16-year-old daughter of Sobyanin. The cost of the hut in the market is 115 million.

        Oh, I can’t! laughing Well, remember how the first wave of Democrats struggled with privileges under the hunchback, convicted Ryzhkov that he had privatized the cottage and what? I remember how Pochinik ran along the stairs of the building of the former CMEA in a shabby sweater, it’s also a fiery platform, even now it’s sparkling with its muzzle, and it sent its wife to give birth to the USA to obtain citizenship. What kind of shisha did you think about? Do you think that he sold a worn sweater and attached his wife to the Amersky hospital, after working in the Yeltsin government as the main tax collector? laughing As I already wrote and I will repeat myself, since Pushkin is our everything -, of course, the Tsar; your state is strong, you have adopted the hearts of your slaves by mercy, joy and generosity. You know yourself: the senseless rabble is changeable, rebellious, superstitious, easily betrayed to empty hope, instant suggestion she is obedient, deaf and indifferent to the truth, and she feeds on fables. She likes shameless courage. So if this unknown vagrant crosses the border, the resurrected name of Demetrius will attract a crowd of madmen to him. "Nastradamus with his couplets rests and nervously smokes on the sidelines. laughing
        1. igor.borov775
          igor.borov775 17 August 2013 03: 44
          +2
          I read and marvel at how everyone turned upside down. Oh, so our democrats and you have made so many laws that, according to the law, Sobyanin is right, it’s different to me where they were when they sculpted these laws of course when executed, and these laws are normal for them, and these laws are not a year old not 5 years, but much more, they all knew perfectly well, and Navalny all the more so because he advertises himself as an expert, yap, the real thing he is against a specific person, mind you, not against such LAWS, that’s what he doesn’t specifically have the right to call himself in opposition to, He’s exactly the same, BEFORE THE OPPOSITIONER IS HIM AS WALKING TO THE SKY, He does not criticize the laws does not speak about imperfection does not offer to finalize them no he just puts dirt on the person and this is miserable for the opposition
      2. aksakal
        aksakal 16 August 2013 09: 54
        +6
        Quote: Karavan
        Bulk is a dark horse. But, nevertheless, I like how the bribe-taking of our bureaucrats exposes

        - Mlyn, the EU in Kazakhstan lacks such a bulk am Although his existence is completely unrealistic under our conditions, on the second day his arms and legs will be broken, cars will be burned ... Let us recall the opposition Chernyshev, I don’t remember this name of the journalist who was framed with the girl. We do not flicker, and the bulk of us would live exactly 24 hours after the first serious publication, no more. But it’s a pity - even if it’s a fake, but there’s a benefit - it reduces corruption in any way. So Sobyanin will now dodge like in a pan with these apartments, decorated for his daughter ...
      3. bomg.77
        bomg.77 16 August 2013 11: 53
        +6
        Quote: Karavan
        Bulk - a dark horse

        Rather, a dark donkey. laughing What is he fighting there? It would be better if he told himself about what he’s living with, where did the money for the lawyers who defended him for more than a year come from, what money he’s living with? And finally, where is the Kirov forest. laughing ?
        As the saying goes "start with yourself, you won't get to others"
      4. alone
        alone 16 August 2013 15: 05
        0
        and what? do you think the Sobyanin will not be a measure? Now he is actively fighting against illegal immigrants and migrants, so that the rating is on top. Once the elections are over, everything will be the same.
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 16 August 2013 15: 57
          0
          Yeah, he spends. 100 people gathered Koreans and sent somewhere if only the people settled down. That is all politics.
      5. CTEPX
        CTEPX 16 August 2013 16: 41
        0
        Quote: Karavan
        Valny gives a portion of data on an apartment in the center of Moscow, an area of ​​308 squares, which is recorded on the 16-year-old daughter of Sobyanin.

        And photo? Or at least a proof?
      6. Ziksura
        Ziksura 16 August 2013 18: 39
        0
        Quote: Karavan
        then Navalny gives a piece of data on an apartment in the center of Moscow, an area of ​​308 squares, which is recorded on the 16-year-old daughter of Sobyanin. The cost of the hut in the market is 115 million.

        Well done !!!!! No one found, but he "dug". How and where did you not think? If the information is freely available, then where is it so easy to leaked dirt on an official of this level. Or is Sobyanin not aware that the property of close relatives must be declared and not "hid the ends"? What if the power changes, then what? Primitive .... I knew a candidate who "suddenly" found elite real estate, which turned out to be a one-room apartment in a panel "brezhnevka". The trick is simple: they "forgot" to indicate that this is an apartment in an apartment building, and not a private house ... And it was not a foregone conclusion, that "forgot" and that's it ...
        1. igor.borov775
          igor.borov775 17 August 2013 03: 50
          0
          I also know one person, he indicated in the declaration that he has an apartment in Moscow that is small from his ancestors and large in CHUKOTKA so what,
      7. KazaK Bo
        KazaK Bo 16 August 2013 20: 42
        +1
        Quote: Karavan
        Bulk is a dark horse. But, nevertheless, I like how the bribe-taking of our bureaucrats exposes.

        I absolutely agree with your comment ... Exposing corruption ... this is his hobby! But he, bastard:
        - very clean in financial matters, he stole like all bureaucrats.
        - the training at the American Institute of Democratic Leaders does not paint him ... after all, this is a complete leader from the "fifth column" ... other America simply does not teach
        - it really pains a provocation that he looks like a mayor of MOSCOW ... Go ahead, hundreds of articles have already been written, dozens of videos about hunting for democratic nominees from the people have been prepared ... they wait, they won’t wait ... when will they remove him from the election ... .
        Such dubious methods of widespread support among the electorate - DO NOT GET!
        1. igor.borov775
          igor.borov775 17 August 2013 03: 57
          0
          What kind of fighter is he, where did he find something that everyone gasped, No, he just got an information bubble around him, He himself admits that he takes everything from open sources, Nobody inflates the hype, but if he publishes it and everyone inflates it everywhere , And where did he get her modestly silent,
      8. Des10
        Des10 16 August 2013 22: 14
        0
        and nothing - if true - the mayor will be the mayor. Besides - everything is rotten ...
      9. igor.borov775
        igor.borov775 17 August 2013 03: 18
        0
        Before you blurt it out, you need to look around at least a little, What Navalny dug up, he took everything from free sources, The thing is completely different, Hanging infa on the official website hangs for a long time, there is no reaction, But Navalny published what started here, and the media picked up he is extolled, Almost a wrestler is still a little and will be the main one, I think the information bubble is being inflated around him intensely, And here is another moment he never admits his mistakes, every person can be wrong ICON NO, He clearly understood the values ​​of the West, always others are to blame, So he no better than our deputies even correct them and here they are not and personalities hustle around no better, One NEMTSOV with his tales that he famously threw when he was in power and worth it, but now everyone is to blame except him,
    4. Dan master
      Dan master 16 August 2013 09: 43
      +9
      as for Navalny, that is, an interesting info on it, as you know, he studied in the USA, http://inotv.rt.com/2013-08-09/Nemeckij-politik---o-svoej, what follows from this? , Navalny is lobbying for US interests, and the people who are studying there are leading US policy, here's a short video
      1. fartfraer
        fartfraer 16 August 2013 10: 15
        +6
        Give "to the heap" a list of children of deputies and other top managers, whose children are also trained in the "foreign country", either live there, or keep their savings there. (themselves or close relatives). I will be glad for objective information
    5. eplewke
      eplewke 16 August 2013 11: 11
      +5
      This is Navalny mountain jester. Who takes it seriously seriously ??? Standing next to the nationalists smiled at their high hitler! Arrived ... such people still climb into politics ... Horror !!! Close on for life for espionage!
    6. dirty trick
      dirty trick 16 August 2013 12: 24
      +5
      and ana .. I would like this:
    7. Constantine
      Constantine 16 August 2013 15: 42
      +3
      Bulk in front of his electorate wassat See the comments below the video wassat
      1. zvereok
        zvereok 17 August 2013 11: 37
        0
        Quote: Constantine
        Bulk in front of his electorate wassat See comments under wassat video


        Well, yes, then someone for a barbecue, with the majority of wool, they will cut me to the pen for 6 years. Only this video is about power and people.
    8. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 21 August 2013 14: 12
      0
      According to Navalny, here you need to read: CHANGE RUSSIA, start with Moscow !!! Have you noticed how the Jewish "Russian media" unwind this mr ......... s ... When will the Russians come to power?
  2. yan
    yan 16 August 2013 08: 39
    +8
    someone makes money in business, someone gets a salary, someone a salary. And Mr. Navalny is trying to occupy the niche of a political clown. And in plain sight like, and say what you want. And it has nothing to do with it. And "grandmother drips, and people hawala." Maybe it's time to start a revelatory campaign for this whole liberal gang Navalny, Nemtsov, etc. etc.
    1. PB1995
      PB1995 16 August 2013 09: 14
      +2
      Quote: yan
      Maybe it's time to start a revelatory campaign
      Something you are late. After all, the "journalists" from the channels NTV and "Russia 1" have already filmed something, because (I repeat your thought) money is dripping and people are hawking.
      1. yan
        yan 16 August 2013 10: 09
        0
        thought, fortunately not mine, it’s someone from the Estrada community who spoke about his own work
    2. Botanologist
      Botanologist 16 August 2013 09: 19
      +2
      Quote: yan
      it's time to start the revelatory campaign


      Bulk, oddly enough, is an analogue of Zhirik. After all, Zhirinovsky's main function is to channel the protest electorate. By the way, Navalny has the same function. Only Zhirik canals the marginalized, and Navalny is the office hamster. And since you are engaged in hamsters, then you must "feed" them with what they like - gossip and expression.
      And you do not need to take Navalny seriously - another hired actress on the political stage.
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 16 August 2013 10: 01
        +1
        Quote: Botanologist
        And since you are engaged in hamsters, then you must "feed" them with what they like - gossip and expression. And you don't need to take Navalny seriously - just another hired actor on the political scene.

        - given that real production is more and more automated and robotic, which leads to a decrease in the proletariat (there are other reasons there, not about that), and the amount generated by the activity and subject to processing of economic and production information is increasing, which leads to a very stable growth of office plankton (and the processing of information is the profession of this plankton), then canalization of office hamsters can turn bulk into a serious force. How not to take him seriously? By love, it will be a noticeable force. Another thing is that not all hamsters perceive it as their own, which speaks of the quality of work of the bulk, but if ...
        1. Botanologist
          Botanologist 16 August 2013 10: 38
          +5
          Quote: aksakal
          canalization office hamsters can turn bulk into a serious force


          Any sewage system is a process of disposal of waste from circulation. Political canalization is aimed at ensuring that the hamster does not rush to the liberals or elsewhere. Look, now they have allowed us to open lots in an easy way. What for? Yes, then, that you need to break the voter. The adherents of Yabloko will die, but they will not vote for any DPR, although by and large there is no difference between them. The same with Navalny - hamsters need to put a wheel where they will run and have fun. They put a wheel - have fun, hamsters! The electorate is being taken away from the more dangerous guys from liberal circles, in part the youth from the Communist Party. That's the whole layout.
          Will begin to gain votes - will be released on the stage of another, will be engaged in sparring for the amusement of the public.
          And you are bulk, bulk.
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 16 August 2013 14: 34
            0
            Quote: Botanologist
            Yabloko’s adherents will die, but they won’t vote for any DPR, although by and large there is no difference between them. The same with Navalny - hamsters need to put a wheel where they will run and have fun. They put a wheel - have fun, hamsters!

            - You describe commonplace political technologies. At the same time, you mean that bulk is the project of those in power. In power - Putin. Conclusion - bulk - Putin's project. Something is messing around laughing
            The version of Tareeva is closer to me: "I believe that there are smart, strong and influential people behind Navalny, this is their project, they staked on it."
            - Who are these people? They are in white and love to walk in this white through the deserts. And on foot. And they need bulk to destroy politicians who are objectionable to them. Putin became objectionable - face! Now Sobyanin - face! Then they will approach Sobyanin and ask for a plot in the center of Moscow for a major development project. And the choice is before him: either we lower the bulk chain, or give us a plot and take this little suitcase - there are many, many.
            Mlyn, give me a bulk in Kazakhstan for hire! Something began to be missed, I'm building laughing
            He is not a channelizer, an ordinary chain dog. What was the same Dorenko.
            1. Botanologist
              Botanologist 16 August 2013 19: 01
              0
              Quote: aksakal
              He is not a channelizer, an ordinary chain dog. What was the same Dorenko.


              Dorenko was not guided by a specific electoral group, so he is a dog. And Navalny was brought under a specific electorate. Therefore, he is the "leader." With the function, as I wrote, channeling. A dog that does not bite everyone is not needed by anyone.
              1. aksakal
                aksakal 16 August 2013 22: 33
                0
                Quote: Botanologist
                And Navalny was brought under a specific electorate. Therefore, he is the "leader." With the function, as I wrote, channeling. A dog that does not bite everyone is not needed by anyone.

                - two in one - bulk - a lawyer, and this is a typical office-plankton profession, there is simply no plankton profession, so for plankton it is his own. But at the same time, the bulk will bite ANYONE, which will be pointed out to him by "FAS!"
                By the way, I was very surprised - the gentlemen in white, the alleged owners of the bulk, on August 11, for some reason, were greatly humiliated by Ben Gurion at the airport. Honestly, I am very surprised and puzzled by this circumstance and want to clarify the situation - what's the matter? For what? After all, it seems like you need to be proud - your fellow tribesmen who have achieved such successes on a foreign land, surrounded by a foreign people, and they are treading them at the ISRAELI airport! belay Maybe someone from Israel will explain what the joke is? Didn’t you fork out in time?
          2. CTEPX
            CTEPX 16 August 2013 17: 12
            0
            Quote: Botanologist
            Look, now they have allowed us to open lots in an easy way. What for? Yes, then, that you need to break the voter.

            And this is - preference)). Are you us- Bulk? And we - minuscule!)).
      2. Normal
        Normal 16 August 2013 12: 39
        +3
        Quote: Botanologist
        And do not take Navalny seriously

        Come on ... Why so much attention and anger. Both Zhirinovsky and Dorenko have already been noted and this article ... I think that quite a few well-known pro-government figures have already walked along Navalny, I just don’t follow in detail.
        So they are serious ... In my opinion, Navalny is a project. I don’t know whose project yet, but people are serious and with money behind it. On this and such a commotion. Look, there is apparently no one behind Limonov, and there is almost no Limonov in the information field, and Navalny has so much attention. "This is w-w-w - for a reason"
        1. CTEPX
          CTEPX 16 August 2013 17: 20
          0
          Quote: Normal
          . Look, there’s probably nobody behind Limonov

          Limonov is an old project)). Bulk - new)). The main thing is under any flag, but against Russia!
          When you were talking about serious people, I hope you didn’t mean Sterligov or Semigin?
          That's it - it's not even Hodor with Gorbach)).
    3. Vadivak
      Vadivak 16 August 2013 10: 45
      +3
      Quote: yan
      And Mr. Navalny is trying to occupy the niche of a political clown.


      Duc is already taken
    4. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 16 August 2013 10: 52
      +1
      Quote: yan
      Maybe it's time for the already revelatory campaign to begin all this liberal gang

      Why only this one? Let's be objective and expose all available gangs
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 16 August 2013 14: 11
        +3
        Quote: Yarosvet
        Let's be objective and expose all available gangs

        - dear, let's continue the explanation - since the last time you did not understand anything. Here recently, in my opinion with Sergei68-68, it was decided that the word "liberalism" and "liberal" had already been turned into a kind of label that automatically stigmatizes the brows, often in vain. This is what you used now. For RBC, whose target audience is a bourgeois of various calibers, the word "liberal has its own semantic meaning, which is sharply different from the meaning that we put in this word. sense, on our forum "liberal" is just the bulk, just the same fake politician who simply uses liberal slogans, simply speculates with them, and he chose the most attractive slogans from the liberal ones - "freedom, almost permissiveness" and other, but silent about the fact that in present liberalism there is also a provision on the dictatorship of the law and the equality of all before it - but of course, after all, hamsters will scare away. states, usually some Western country: Navalny, Novodvorskaya, Kasparov, Germans - typical fakes, fall under all the signs set forth in the SABZH.
        This article talks about Putin in terms of scientific liberalism. What is scientific liberalism, this is for you to Serge68-68, he is the main liberal here and will tell you everything, ask him - it will not hurt you. And as you might guess, the article in RBC is designed in this style to explain to the target audience of RBC - he is not an enemy of the Russian bourgeois. "You see, by his actions - he is a liberal!" - explains Peskov.
        In fact, Putin is neither a liberal nor a communist, he does not undertake and did not undertake to represent the interests of only certain Russians, for example, only workers or only the bourgeois, he tries to represent the interests of all Russians as the President of all of Russia. How it turns out for him is up to you to evaluate, but when you stick a label you will not get an objective assessment.
        If you understood everything for a long time, but posted all this in the hope that the forum users are fools and will follow your label, then in this case you will have eight different conversations with a completely different tone. As you understand, such an attitude is unacceptable.
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 16 August 2013 14: 59
          -4
          Quote: aksakal
          let's continue explaining
          Come on, but without the schizophrenic conclusions that you like to draw, and after you provide a link to substantiate your statement that Stalin "robbed river ships" - this is so that I no longer have to consider you a yap.

          This is what you used now. For RBC, whose target audience is a bourgeois of various caliber, the word "liberal has its own semantic load ...
          Pay attention to Peskov's clause about what he means by liberals to those "who are called so," that is, neoliberals who are the target audience of RBC - I understand that, but you, for lack of facts, are trying to catch me in words.

          "liberal" is just bulk
          Bulk - the same neoliberal as Putin, using the same slogans.

          there is a provision on the dictatorship of the law and the equality of all before it
          This is one of the main differences between liberalism and neoliberalism - the liberal system in fact gives equality of law for everyone, the neoliberal system works according to the principle "for everyone else - the law" - look around, what do you see - liberalism?

          Bulk, Novodvorskaya, Kasparov, Germans - typical fakes
          Fakes working for Power are a horror story for most.

          it won't bother you
          Rather, you - I have no disagreement with him on this issue.

          he tries to represent the interests of all Russians as the President of all of Russia.
          Take an interest in the taxation system, I already told you about salaries, but it seems to be useless.

          you will not get an objective assessment
          My assessment is more objective than yours, if only because I do not base it on my own ability to drive to Turkey, then extrapolating this opportunity to everyone else.

          in the expectation that the forum users are fools
          What are the names of people who use the term without understanding its meaning?
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 16 August 2013 16: 15
            +1
            Quote: Yarosvet
            Come on, but without the schizophrenic conclusions that you like to make, and after you give a link to substantiate your statement that Stalin "robbed river ships" - this is so that I no longer have to consider you a yap

            - teach history, not ham. Rude and I can. Do you want to hear? Let's get started.
            Quote: Yarosvet
            I understand it

            “You understand a little, especially your understanding of the differences between liberals and neoliberals is laughable.” At least read the wiki and take off your Alcoholic T-shirt, dress well.
            Quote: Yarosvet
            Fakes working for Power are a horror story for most.

            - from the same opera - rumors circulate - the wind wears, the primitive believes, laughing
            Quote: Yarosvet
            I already told you about salaries, but it seems like no use.

            - about European? Blow there and get this salary for your happiness. Why the hell are you moaning here? About you - Just in case about you - you graze pigs, you are alone, I’m not going to talk to you.
            Quote: Yarosvet
            My assessment is more objective than yours, if only because I do not base it on my own ability to drive to Turkey, then extrapolating this opportunity to everyone else

            - The numbers? To drive back to Turkey costs 1500 per person, this is a little more than a monthly salary plus or minus office plankton, and if you are a professional, a real pro, and in any field, at least IT, at least a techie, at least a good welder, then there’s a salary more - and by the way, these are not Moscow salaries at all. in Moscow, other figures. If you do not have the opportunity to accumulate one monthly salary of plankton for a year to drive to Turkey, then you should not speak with a loser. For you, all Presidents will be bad, even Putin, at least not Putin. Start with yourself, the president of Russia has nothing to do with it.
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 16 August 2013 16: 27
              +3
              aksakal

              Rude and I can


              I know. I also know that your entire evidence base on any issue comes down to trying to move to the bazaar - apparently the past is affecting.

              Confirm your statement, or admit your wrong - you refuse, instead, again trying to move to the market, and then who are you?

              That's right - you yap. hi
          2. CTEPX
            CTEPX 16 August 2013 17: 29
            0
            Quote: Yarosvet
            the liberal system in fact gives equality of law to all

            That's the whole answer. You are a true liberal, and try to call them Putin)).
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 16 August 2013 18: 45
              +1
              Quote: ctepx
              That's the whole answer. You are a true liberal, and try to call them Putin)).

              Not real. )))

              Do you think that the liberal system does not give equality before the law? If so, then it did not occur to you that this is not really a liberal system, but something else - neoliberalism, for example?
  3. crambol
    crambol 16 August 2013 08: 49
    +2
    In the case of political hysteria, the best means is a good “public slap in the face”, therefore, our fakes are best treated by “Dr. Zhirinovsky,” who has a lot of practice in this area. Not everyone likes him, let alone what he is.

    But nobody liked castor and enema. Sooner or later, you will have to pay for the Amers 30 greens anyway!
    And Wolfovich does a good job, pulling into the light of all these cockroaches.
    1. alone
      alone 16 August 2013 15: 09
      0
      Wolfovich needs to answer for himself what he was doing at the gay club)))))))))))))))
  4. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 16 August 2013 08: 50
    +2
    Tired of clowning creeps from the opposition, getting salaries at the US embassy. Who will vote for him at all? When will there be an opposition of the government in which there will be no political corpses and clowns working for the State Department?
  5. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 16 August 2013 08: 50
    10
    Great article, but the goal is narrow. Not only the "Navalny phenomenon", but also the phenomenon of the Russian elections is our home-grown fake, political fraud.
    1. Botanologist
      Botanologist 16 August 2013 09: 21
      +4
      Quote: serge-68-68
      the phenomenon of the Russian elections is our homegrown fake, political fraud


      And what, in fact, is fraud? I’m a little professional in elections, I have a different opinion.
      1. serge-68-68
        serge-68-68 16 August 2013 09: 34
        +4
        Fraud is the acquisition of the right to someone else's property by deception or abuse of trust. I was involved in the elections professionally from the end of 1999 to 2011. in "command" positions. :) I have never seen fair and legal elections. Deception, abuse of trust, hidden and open violation of the current electoral legislation. At the same time, if in the early stages of this period they cheated at the level of candidates, then in the later stages the fraud slipped (rose) to the level of the organizers. :)
        1. Botanologist
          Botanologist 16 August 2013 10: 44
          +4
          Quote: serge-68-68
          I was involved in the elections professionally from the end of 1999 to 2011. in "command" positions. :) I have never seen fair and legal elections.


          What do you consider "honest and legal"? Is it fair or not to write on posters "against crooks and thieves"? Or is it fair or not to arrest the circulation of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation that were published by the electoral fund?
          Or are you talking about something else?
          1. serge-68-68
            serge-68-68 16 August 2013 12: 07
            0
            Hmm ... We survived. The concepts of "honest" and "lawful" need to be further explained ... :) Fair and legal elections are elections held in accordance with the electoral legislation in its entirety. Behind small and, in principle, not very significant nuances, it is very good with us. And it should apply to everyone. Because everyone is equal before the law. And here it is applied through the usual business.
            1. Botanologist
              Botanologist 16 August 2013 13: 50
              +5
              Quote: serge-68-68
              Lived. The concepts of "honest" and "legal" need further clarification ...


              Any concepts must be clarified. Any normal argument begins with this.

              Quote: serge-68-68
              And it should apply to all


              Use this if you are engaged in elections at the very "top". I filmed self-nominated candidates, SRs, Yabloko, and United Russia members from the elections. And not only singles, but also lists. Last week, in particular, he waved his pen to one United Russia member, three times a deputy. So work and everything will work out. If you are doing this, then you know perfectly well that the legislation needs to be APPLIED, not groaning - oh, it's not fair, oh, how bad it is. It doesn't apply itself, try hiring a lawyer. They say it helps.
              1. serge-68-68
                serge-68-68 16 August 2013 15: 04
                0
                Do not believe what they say. Does not help.
                1. Botanologist
                  Botanologist 16 August 2013 19: 06
                  +1
                  Quote: serge-68-68
                  It does not help.


                  Minus is not from me, do not think bad drinks .
                  And about the lawyers - we sued EP, normal, and filmed, and restored their own.
  6. Sukharev
    Sukharev 16 August 2013 08: 51
    +2
    This is a very useful phenomenon. He concentrates a certain mass around himself. Then it will be very convenient to merge this whole bunch in one motion.
  7. Constantine
    Constantine 16 August 2013 08: 55
    +8
    Yesterday I was offered to take a newspaper "Navalny" to which they received my reply that "the thief should be in prison." At first, the agitator briskly picked up and was delighted, but when I realized who I was, I fell into a small stupor. Something screamed at me wassat Hamsters are such hamsters wassat I agree with the article.
    1. shark
      shark 16 August 2013 09: 42
      +5
      Agitators of Navalny are the same louts as their idol. Impudent, intrusive. A week ago they managed to drive off one of them only with a sincere promise of imminent physical reprisal.
      1. Constantine
        Constantine 16 August 2013 09: 54
        0
        Quote: shark
        Agitators of Navalny are the same louts as their idol. Impudent, intrusive. A week ago they managed to drive off one of them only with a sincere promise of imminent physical reprisal.


        That is yes. In my case, there were stickers handed out by a woman under 60. There are 2-3 of them dancing around a cube with streamers.
    2. avt
      avt 16 August 2013 09: 54
      +6
      Quote: Constantine
      Yesterday I was offered to take a newspaper "Navalny" to which they received my reply that "the thief should be in prison." At first, the agitator briskly picked up and was delighted, but when I realized who I was, I fell into a small stupor.

      good laughing I’m familiar like that, too, was kidding with various sectarians, Dianetics preachers, and Jehovah’s. With them, as soon as you knock them down from a worn-out record - immediately a stupor and hysteria, they cannot think of a fucker themselves, only how they put it in and repeat it.
      1. Constantine
        Constantine 16 August 2013 10: 18
        +2
        Quote: avt
        I’m familiar like that, too, was kidding with various sectarians, Dianetics preachers, and Jehovah’s. With them, as soon as you knock them down from a worn-out record - immediately a stupor and hysteria, they cannot think of a fucker themselves, only how they put it in and repeat it.


        New Bird Talker. Not different either in intelligence or quick wits. lol
      2. Ziksura
        Ziksura 16 August 2013 18: 51
        +1
        Quote: avt
        I’m familiar like that, too, was kidding with various sectarians, Dianetics preachers, and Jehovah’s.

        Believe it or not, you intuitively grasped the hidden essence of the phenomenon: the Navalny project is tailored according to the patterns of totalitarian sects.
        1. avt
          avt 16 August 2013 21: 26
          +2
          Quote: Ziksura
          Believe it or not, you intuitively grasped the hidden essence of the phenomenon: the Navalny project is tailored according to the patterns of totalitarian sects.

          Why I don’t believe it, it’s quite obvious to myself, this is how you, everyone who came across such guys. I had a chance to communicate with integral yogis, clairvoyants, Dianetics, with Jehovah's Witnesses more than once, and even heels of another can be called, including various catacomb and not very, Orthodox. "Many familiar guys whose roof went in the 90s, tried to attach laughing And on bulk - yes, the processing algorithm is clearly visible, similar to the Dianetics, even more American, preaching, pastoral braid. But he is still a bad student - the pressure is there, but there is no endurance, such kind of "spiritual" participation and attention to adherents as the amers have. He often breaks down rudely, well, he cannot, in American style, "keep smiley" understand laughing Does not keep a smile when communicating with adepts and ostentatious attention to the common man. Even EBN in such matters was Polovcha. Pride obscures the mind, rushing like Tymoshenko without looking back. That at least for a short time but did not get to the top, and she cut down the dough not childishly, but this one will burn out quickly, go as a sacrificial ram, since Magnitsky did not work out very well from Khodorkovsky, and this one is just right, and it's not a pity, not a lot of money was spent on it. By the way, I forgot to add, he is no speaker, frankly, crappy. Again, because of pride, here is Zhirik - yes, in the 90s he trained in public almost every Sunday in Sokolniki, then there was a market there, so he stood on a dais from the end of the house, which is opposite Zenith and in the direction of the market he spoke for another hour , sort of like to the people. Trained as an orator, that's why the reaction in the dispute and the "beep" is still in order. laughing
          1. Ziksura
            Ziksura 16 August 2013 22: 06
            0
            Quote: avt
            But he is still a bad student

            I agree. As the saying goes: "Swipe - a ruble, blow - a penny." For a long time I understood that this will not work out anything worthwhile. The level is not the same.
            Quote: avt
            here Zhirik - yes

            Had a pleasure listening live. Oh his energy, yes ..... (there are many options).
          2. zvereok
            zvereok 17 August 2013 12: 09
            +1
            Quote: avt
            And on bulk - yes, the processing algorithm is clearly visible, similar to the Dianetics, even more American, preaching, pastoral braid. But he is still a bad student - the pressure is there, but the endurance, this kind of "spiritual" participation and attention to the adepts, like the Amers, is not.


            Do your "Cultists" have results? I went now to the site http://rospil.info/results:

            The number of complaints (appeals) to the FAS - 178
            The number of complaints (appeals) deemed substantiated - 129

            The popularity of Navalny, at the beginning of his "promotion", was that he used the laws of our country, accusing the officials of theft. He presented documents on violations and facts of corruption, wrote applications to the prosecutor's office, and provided scans of formal replies from the prosecutor's office, which naturally aroused interest and respect. After the people went out to the square. The authorities decided that if they cannot manage the protest, they need to lead it - having started real cases to fight corruption, even Serdyukov was removed, although they do not know what to do with him now. Before that, let me remind you that Medvedev fought corruption for 4 years, with his tongue. Well, having calmed the society with deeds, they decided to eliminate the possible polit. competitor ... In general, Cooperative "Lake" is a sect (well, like a Masonic lodge).
    3. Russ69
      Russ69 16 August 2013 11: 15
      +1
      Quote: Constantine
      Yesterday I was offered to take a newspaper "Navalny" to which they received my reply that "the thief should be in prison."

      But isn't he a thief?

      1. Constantine
        Constantine 16 August 2013 11: 16
        +4
        Quote: Russ69
        But isn't he a thief?


        I know that, but the adherents of his campaign have not yet entered that they are the meat foundation for the affairs of Navalny.
  8. Oskar
    Oskar 16 August 2013 09: 01
    +8
    One must go to the opposition with at least a clear conscience. But of course it is alarming that Navalny is a thief, and Serdyukov is an effective manager. There is reason to think about the one-sidedness of justice ...
    1. Constantine
      Constantine 16 August 2013 09: 25
      +1
      Quote: Oskar
      Navalny is a thief, and Serdyukov is an effective manager.


      No need to be driven. An investigation is underway. That's when all the dots will be placed over the "i" and the judgments are over, then we will judge who is who and why. At the moment, this verbiage is about the same rank as the NATO base in Ulyanovsk. hi
    2. Botanologist
      Botanologist 16 August 2013 10: 47
      +2
      Quote: Oskar
      You must go to the opposition with at least a clear conscience


      With a clear conscience, you need to go free. Here he will serve - then to the opposition.
  9. PB1995
    PB1995 16 August 2013 09: 03
    +4
    our fakes are best treated by Dr. Zhirinovsky, who has extensive practice in this area
    Someone would have treated him.
  10. Vrungel78
    Vrungel78 16 August 2013 09: 10
    +2
    HOW EVERYBODY WAS BAD: BULKHEAD, PROKHOROV, LITTERS, BEARS, BEARS, ETC. Everyone sticks out just to be chosen. But in reality it turns out to be zilch. Only the muzzle becomes wider. Without irritation, I look only at four people: Putin, Shoigu, Belyakov, Khinshtein.
    1. shark
      shark 16 August 2013 09: 44
      +4
      And Rogozin? In my opinion, too, in the case of a man.
      What haunts Putin is Medvedev’s choice, what is it? A mistake or some tricky move, the true meaning of which we still do not understand?
      1. Vrungel78
        Vrungel78 16 August 2013 11: 12
        +2
        Quote: shark
        A mistake or some tricky move, the true meaning of which we still do not understand?

        And not a mistake or a tricky move. And just the chairman of the Board of Directors of Gazprom wanted in politics. Who pays, he orders the music.
      2. zvereok
        zvereok 17 August 2013 20: 13
        +1
        Quote: shark
        And Rogozin? In my opinion, too, in the case of a man.
        What haunts Putin is Medvedev’s choice, what is it? A mistake or some tricky move, the true meaning of which we still do not understand?


        Medvedev, Putin's longtime friend, worked together under Sobchak, while Sobchak was also an "Effective Manager." So that Putin knows Medvedev as flaky, that's why he put it.
  11. kontrol
    kontrol 16 August 2013 09: 12
    +4
    bulk provocateur - behind him the State Department roof otherwise he would have been devoured
  12. stpv1
    stpv1 16 August 2013 09: 18
    12 th
    The article is a fat minus, the people need a hero who can clear the Augean stables of our country, where everything turned upside down, the wrong has become right, thieves and mediocrity are in charge everywhere, the wealth of the motherland is sold for petrodollars and stored abroad, the country's population is dying, medicine and education are ruined, our pensioners live in poverty. And our bureaucrats are all in gold. Look at Serdyukov and his team, they are free.
    Bulk done, he wants to change something. I believe in him, but I am afraid that our people will once again be deceived, but I do not want to believe today's rulers, I think that their policy will lead Russia to death
    1. Standard Oil
      Standard Oil 16 August 2013 09: 24
      +8
      Excuse me, what floor are you working on at the American embassy?
    2. klimpopov
      klimpopov 16 August 2013 09: 30
      12
      Prosralipolymers !!!!!
    3. shark
      shark 16 August 2013 09: 49
      11
      Navalny is a corrupt State Department girl. Look with whom he stands on the same platform: Nemtsov, Kasyanov, Ryzhkov. Do they also want to change something?
      Open your eyes and ears, getting out of your head what you are being pushed into. Russia is slowly but surely developing. Plants are being built, enterprises are opening. Schools. Yes, a lot of things ... Another question is that there is no one to work at the plants. Everyone went to the managers .. Today it’s prestigious to be a hamster.
      1. Vrungel78
        Vrungel78 16 August 2013 11: 15
        +8
        Well, yes. Tell me who your friend is and I will say who you are. A-Nemtsov, Kasyanov, Ryzhkov have already shown themselves in all their glory.
    4. Constantine
      Constantine 16 August 2013 11: 19
      +2
      Quote: stpv1
      The article is a fat minus, the people need a hero who can clear the Augean stables of our country, where everything turned upside down, the wrong has become right, thieves and mediocrity are in charge everywhere, the wealth of the motherland is sold for petrodollars and stored abroad, the country's population is dying, medicine and education are ruined, our pensioners live in poverty. And our bureaucrats are all in gold. Look at Serdyukov and his team, they are free.
      Bulk done, he wants to change something. I believe in him, but I am afraid that our people will once again be deceived, but I do not want to believe today's rulers, I think that their policy will lead Russia to death


      One of the 4 hamsters noted in the article is Detected wassat
    5. skullcap
      skullcap 16 August 2013 13: 31
      +3
      Quote: stpv1
      people need a hero who can clear the Augean stables of our country, where everything is turned upside down

      You, apparently (do not consider it a grievance), young man. Otherwise they would have known that such a hero in our recent history already had a surname - Edtsin.
      And Navalny is the current remake of that project.
      The only difference is that the Yeltsin project was implemented as a fighter against privileges, and the bulk project goes like a fighter against corruption. And the developers and owners of the project are the same - in Washington.
      Of course, the situation has changed in 20 years. At the end of 80's, Gorbachev's USSR in the West, without embarrassment, was openly called the “land of unafraid idiots”. It is now accepted to say that the perpetrators of the disaster are foreign countries and our special services along with the party elite, and the people are just their victims. However, to be objective, it must be admitted that a smaller part of the population opposed restructuring, who constantly risked getting a face for not admiring the hero along with the advanced and conscious vanguard, but trying to explain that Yeltsin was actually an anti-hero, which will lead the country to disaster and bloody slaughter.
      As we now know from history, the red-brown retrogrades were right all the same, but the flaming rebuilders won. Why are we still hiccups?
      Today, many of our people are no longer scared. But did everyone become cured? Therefore, I would not blame myself for saying that the “bulk project” was doomed in advance. Since it is necessary to take into account that democratic fighters of the information war do not stand still, they constantly hone their skills, prepare new traps, and most importantly - remain the same: it does not matter how they vote, it is important how they count.
      And the question arises: who will count? If you scrutinize closely, it will turn out that there are, for the most part, all the same perestroika and reformers as before. So the chances are real that the result will be given to the one that is needed by progressive humanity, and not to our people.
      So I don’t recommend flirting with the bulk project, so as not to repeat the results of the Yeltsin project.
  13. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 16 August 2013 09: 24
    0
    Tired of your Navalny, you might think that there’s nothing more to write about, an article minus a huge
    1. polly
      polly 16 August 2013 09: 52
      +5
      The article describes Navalny perfectly. I used to perceive it as somehow unreal ... something flat, like a puppet. Now everything has fallen into place: fake is a suitable word for him, especially from the language of its owners! Kamenev is a plus.
  14. fartfraer
    fartfraer 16 August 2013 09: 35
    +3
    in vain he would have got into politics. would have continued his "growth. drank" and there would have been no price for him. and in this way the whole movement that fights against snickering officials and other lords would discredit itself
    1. Constantine
      Constantine 16 August 2013 11: 22
      +1
      Quote: fartfraer
      in vain he would have got into politics. would have continued his "growth. drank" and there would have been no price for him. and in this way the whole movement that fights against snickering officials and other lords would discredit itself


      Rospil is a tool to combat power + a tool to combat various companies. Any shadow, regardless of whether it is true or false, drops the company's shares and its prestige, and with information support Piled up such an effect is quite achievable. As the archive of his mail showed, his revelations were a commonplace economic order. hi

      Quote: fartfraer
      in vain he climbed into politics


      In vain he was born in this country. wink
      1. fartfraer
        fartfraer 16 August 2013 11: 36
        +1
        "Rospil is a tool for fighting the government" - the government is far from sinless (not only in the Russian Federation, in any country in the world), but the authorities should not be allowed to be impudent either. Navalny was not involved for libel (note), he was attracted under another article. no one, not only through the courts, but even through the media, did not consider it necessary to refute his "exposure" (although it is possible without quotation marks, probably). this is strange. It is strange that he is called an agent of the State Department, but is not tried for treason. Agents of the State Department in the Russian Federation are not allowed to be tried or are they just lying to us?
        at the end of the comment I’ll clarify my opinion that the idea of ​​Rospril is correct and should be developed. Not as a means of combating companies or authorities, but as a means of combating corruption, etc. And information from Rospil should receive an official assessment of the prosecutor’s office (first of all). Well, and I repeat again, in vain Navalny climbed into politics.
        1. Constantine
          Constantine 16 August 2013 11: 47
          -2
          Quote: fartfraer
          Bulk not attracted for defamation


          In vain. Very vain. In the aggregate of 100 years would be enough.

          Quote: fartfraer
          it is strange that he is called an agent of the State Department, but they are not judged for treason. State Department agents in the Russian Federation are forbidden to judge or are they just lying to us?


          The system is riddled with these agents. Navalny is a public agent, but far from the most powerful and influential of them.

          Quote: fartfraer
          the idea of ​​rospil is true and needs to be developed. not as a means of combating companies or authorities, but as a means of combating corruption, etc. and information from rospil should receive an official assessment of the prosecutor's office (first of all).


          The idea is true, but it must be implemented by another team. A team that is absolutely not connected with Navalny and his gang.
          1. fartfraer
            fartfraer 16 August 2013 12: 00
            +1
            “The idea is correct, but it should be implemented by another team.” - I don’t even argue here, moreover, I’ll say that these are generally the functions of the state. But unfortunately sometimes it does not fulfill them for some reason.
            "The system is permeated with these agents through and through" - and I do not argue here. For me, the main question is whether this system is headed by the same agent.
            "In vain. Very in vain" - and here it is with both hands "for"!
            1. Constantine
              Constantine 16 August 2013 12: 12
              -1
              Quote: fartfraer
              I don’t even argue here, moreover I’ll say that this is generally the function of the state. But unfortunately sometimes it does not fulfill them for some reason.


              The team should be as neutral as possible. On state grants - yes, but this should not be done by officials / security officials. Otherwise, it will not break the chain. sad

              Quote: fartfraer
              and I don’t argue here. For me, the main question is whether the same agent is heading this system.


              If about the most important, then he is an agent of his state, perhaps. Otherwise, we would now observe a completely different situation and believe me, we would now not have time for discussions on the Internet wink
  15. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 16 August 2013 09: 36
    +6
    Another 2 weeks and the bulk project will be closed for 4 years. (will be released before the next election)
    1. yan
      yan 16 August 2013 13: 35
      +1
      project "Failed Navalny"
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  16. PB1995
    PB1995 16 August 2013 09: 44
    0
    but his statement that political scientists need to be fed to the beasts is unacceptable and outrageous ... one political scientist said
    Because he is a political scientist, therefore, it is unacceptable and outrageous.

    insults, ridicule, cynical jokes with implication
    Interestingly, the deputy's phrase: "What do we owe these veterans? The fact that they were not finished off?" - is this not an insult? Reminds the proverb: "We see a speck in someone else's eye, we don't notice a log in our own."

    corruption charges are in fashion today, but that’s not the point
    laughing Author, don’t just say that we don’t have corruption! That Serdyukov is a crystal-clear person. That Zheleznyak children do not study abroad.

    You can find fault with any Sobyanin, Putin and even the Pope, find some kind of “compromising evidence” - and let them sort it out ... In general, this is nothing new - the usual type of demagogue, in all its disgusting splendor
    Well, the author definitely has no complaints about these comrades.

    "Human Rights Policy"

    these are fakes that hide the other, real goals of their organizers: interference in the internal affairs of foreign states for selfish purposes
    If someone thinks that there is no need to protect human rights, I sincerely feel sorry for these people and, to be honest, it pisses me off when someone says that "here, again, some human rights, some other crap" ... But if these same people are cheated in the store, they demand money in the hospital, then they will be indignant: "How !? But I have the right, for example, to free medicine, to be returned to me!" Or how? "Well, they took the money - so they took it, that's it."


    “Foreign financing”, dirty technologies from “independent” “Bulk Brothers”
    It's strange, why did all this come to light during the election campaign? The same accusations of corruption are also dirty technologies. An interesting position of the author: one can accuse someone of corruption, others cannot. Of course, I guess why one can do it, but the article so far resembles the same "revelatory" programs like "Anatomy of a Protest" or whatever ... I don't know, I don't watch TV. Also, mix everything in one pile, saying: "Well, cho, everyone is eating and they will ask for supplements, yeah laughing "

    and now summer is in Russia
    laughing Thanks, we know!
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer 16 August 2013 09: 53
      +1
      we are constantly told that they are (bulk) foreign agents. So can someone explain the situation, but where does the FSB and other authorized structures look? Or are foreign agents allowed to work openly with us, or we are told that they are agents. volume and in another case it turns out badly
      1. Constantine
        Constantine 16 August 2013 11: 26
        0
        Quote: fartfraer
        we are constantly told that they are (bulk) foreign agents. So can someone explain the situation, but where does the FSB and other authorized structures look? Or are foreign agents allowed to work openly with us, or we are told that they are agents. volume and in another case it turns out badly


        According to the results of the defeat of the USSR / Russia in the Cold War, we were redrawn the entire system so that its dismantling in one go will lead to collapse, chaos and anarchy comparable to the 90s. For this reason, the dismantling of the system is consistent and accurate. Do not forget that in the government and other structures there are still many who are kept on the hook by compromising materials / money / property abroad and other things, forcing, at the critical moment, in fear of loss / disclosure, to execute someone else's will and take anti-state steps. Not everything is as simple as they say in books wink
        1. fartfraer
          fartfraer 16 August 2013 11: 42
          +2
          and who is leading this "dismantling"? and how did the person "dismantling" the system get into the upper echelons of this system? What "hook" is there for him? De Gaulle prepared a (judicial) reform for half a year and carried it out in one day. years we have been "dismantling" and so far (using the example of Tomsk) only industry has been dismantled. Tomsk, of course, is not all of Russia, but our enterprises were very significant (for the defense industry, including) during the Soviet era. It remains only to find out where at that time the bearing or electric motor was built factory (for example). can you tell me?
          1. Constantine
            Constantine 16 August 2013 12: 23
            +2
            Quote: fartfraer
            and who is leading this "dismantling"? and how did the person "dismantling" the system get into the upper echelons of this system? what "hook" is there for him?


            T.N. The elite is divided into 2 parts. About Russian and about Western. The pro-western is dismantled about the Russian one with the support of the first person in the state.

            Quote: fartfraer
            we have been "dismantling" for 13 years and so far (by the example of Tomsk) we have dismantled only industry.


            For 13 years we have got rid of dependence in decision-making in front of external creditors, have torn the Oligarchy from the helm of the country, have become the 5th economy in the world and the first economy in Europe. If you are not aware, the share of industry in Russia's GDP, at the moment, is higher than the share of mining. No matter how it looks, it is a fact. About dismantling - I suggest visiting Russian industrial zones like Kaluga, for example. There you can clearly see the "dismantling of industry". My advice to you. Always and everywhere put the authority of truth higher than the truth of authorities and the picture of what is happening will be more transparent and understandable. wink hi


            Quote: fartfraer
            Tomsk, of course, is not the whole of Russia, but the enterprises we had were very significant (including for defense) during the USSR. All that remained was to find out where at that time a bearing or electric motor plant was built (for example). Can you tell me?


            Tomsk is very far advanced in terms of technology. If you don’t know, then you can watch the RT movie in the application. As for the factories, now I am not ready to look for where and what is built. Bearings for special. technicians did in Russia on the basis of an alloy from the factory of my friend. I can ask at a meeting where exactly. As far as electric motors are concerned, I can say with confidence that there is such a production because Russian Railways operates new domestic electric locomotives. If there was enough time and desire, I would find and show. In general, following my advice, you need to get the most reliable information yourself, and not take my words on faith. This will be the right move hi
        2. dmit-xnumx
          dmit-xnumx 16 August 2013 11: 57
          +2
          Well said - take the plus!
      2. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 16 August 2013 15: 24
        +2
        Quote: fartfraer
        and where does the FSB and other authorized structures look? Or are foreign agents allowed to work openly with us, or we are told that they are agents. And in either case it’s not good
    2. RussianRu
      RussianRu 16 August 2013 10: 52
      +5
      ......... I, of course, guess why one can do it, but the article so far resembles the same "revelatory" programs like "Anatomy of a Protest" or whatever ... I don't know, I don't watch TV ... .....

      You are interesting troll. You don’t watch TV, but you know the names of the programs. You don’t watch TV, but you judge that these programs are not entirely true. I’m silent about the rest of your comments. You insert a quote about foreign states, and you write about human rights. Or do you really believe that a foreign state cares about your rights? BALAMUT.
      1. PB1995
        PB1995 16 August 2013 11: 28
        -7
        You don’t watch TV, but you know the names of the programs
        Everything is easy and simple: my parents watch TV, I sit in the next room and hear all these "this one is bad, this one is a traitor" and something else like that. Sometimes I read on the Internet that on such and such a channel something "revealing" was shown. The same Kiselyov from Vesti Nedeli sometimes praises Putin (when he turned 60, D.K. 15 minutes crucified why life became better under Putin, life became more fun), then he stigmatizes the opposition. And, unfortunately, they believe him. And Kiselyov also calls himself a "journalist". It's bullshit, not a journalist.

        You insert a quote about foreign states, and you write about human rights. Or do you really believe that a foreign state cares about your rights?
        I do not like it when, using either illiteracy or the gullibility of people, they begin to confuse one with the other. Human rights activities liberalism and democracy thanks to such "scribblers" have become synonymous with the word "bad".
        For your information:
        Liberalism - a philosophical and socio-political movement, proclaiming inviolability of human rights and individual freedomsadvocating for minimizing government interference in the life of citizens.
        Liberalism proclaims the rights and freedoms of each person as the supreme value and establishes them as the legal basis of social and economic order. Moreover, the ability of the state and the church to influence the life of society is limited by the constitution. The most important freedoms in liberalism are freedom to speak out publicly, freedom to choose a religion, freedom to choose representatives in fair and free elections. In economic terms, the principles of liberalism are the inviolability of private property, freedom of trade and business. In legal terms, the principles of liberalism are the rule of law over the will of rulers and the equality of all citizens before the law, regardless of their wealth, position and influence.
        Democracy - from the Latin "democracy" - there is nothing to say.
        1. RussianRu
          RussianRu 16 August 2013 12: 14
          +3
          Well, sit in the next room. Analyze what you hear.))

          Liberalism is good only in words. In fact, this liberalism is worse than Nazism or dictatorship. Hypocrisy is the true essence of liberalism. HYPOCRISY. Tell me, how does liberalism justify violence?
          Liberalism calls for tolerance, but on the part of the liberals, I do not notice this relation to the traditions, creed or foundations of a person (nationality). Just smiles. So there is no need here to describe the superficial magnificence of liberalism.
          1. PB1995
            PB1995 16 August 2013 12: 42
            -4
            Tell me, how does liberalism justify violence?
            He does not accept him, as far as I know.

            to traditions, creed or foundations of a person (nationality)
            Well, this is conservatism, another ideology, the antipode of liberalism. In general, liberalism implies that you want to practice what kind of religion. Though you don’t confess anything at all and no one will say a word against you.

            Well, sit
            And you and I, it seems, did not go over to "you".
            1. RussianRu
              RussianRu 16 August 2013 13: 31
              +1
              Of course he does not accept it, but violence according to Liberian concepts can be used, either with permission, or (figuratively speaking) give change, or remember some kind of insult. In these cases, liberalism justifies violence. If you advocate liberalism you must know this. Or are you silent specifically?

              (tradition) The key word is tolerance and not conservatism. There is no need to leave the topic.

              You're a liberal. And the most important thing in liberalism is chago? So, here I am an individual, it is more convenient for me to refer to "YOU" and there is nothing for me to indicate here how to address my opponent. Tolerance where?)))))))))
    3. Vrungel78
      Vrungel78 16 August 2013 11: 17
      +1
      Plus for the summer))))
    4. Vrungel78
      Vrungel78 16 August 2013 11: 32
      +2
      The opposition began to bark loudly during the reign of Medvedev. These are his liberal experiences.
  17. artist-mamluk
    artist-mamluk 16 August 2013 09: 56
    0
    Why talk and write about him at all. The less is known about this "comrade" in Russia, the less harm from him for Russia itself
  18. LaGlobal
    LaGlobal 16 August 2013 09: 56
    +4
    All people are not sinless, therefore, he will always find something to ponder over. To any sobyanin, Putin


    - the surnames "Sobyanin" and "Putin" are written with a CAPITAL letter!

    I do not perceive Navalny as a policy! He does not know how to conduct a dialogue, he likes to get personal. And what can he do for the country for Moscow? - Nothing at all. In his campaign speeches, apart from insults and trying to "expose" someone there is nothing.
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer 16 August 2013 10: 01
      +3
      any last name is capitalized, for that matter.
      1. PB1995
        PB1995 16 August 2013 10: 04
        -3
        Yes, but if a person is spoken of negatively, then the surname is written in the plural and with a small letter. And if it's positive, then with a big one. Given the tone of the article, it is a little strange that the words "sobyanin and" putin "are written
  19. PB1995
    PB1995 16 August 2013 10: 02
    -4
    Quote: fartfraer
    we are constantly told that they are (bulk) foreign agents. So can someone explain the situation, but where does the FSB and other authorized structures look? Or are foreign agents allowed to work openly with us, or we are told that they are agents. volume and in another case it turns out badly
    My personal opinion: given the fact that our journalists (especially those broadcasting from federal channels) have never heard the words "objectivity" and "impartiality", then, of course, the authorities will benefit from the fact that about the same Navalny or Nemtsov or some other something we are told in a negative light. There are several reasons for this:
    1. The people are distracted from the problems that the government sometimes creates and does not burn with the desire to solve.
    2. The image of an "enemy" is created, especially as the saying goes "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." That is, by means of such "brainwashing" (there is no other way to say) the authorities attract people to their side. But since all this is done rather clumsily and funny, and despite the fact that the Internet is already on the heels of television in popularity, sometimes the opposite effect is obtained.
    1. RussianRu
      RussianRu 16 August 2013 10: 37
      +4
      1) Nobody distracts people from bulk problems. On the contrary, he himself attracts the attention of the people by his provocative speeches. The last example with Yandex money. The authorities need him to take part in the elections, but in principle, a chair will not be necessary for the bulk, so he throws out all sorts of tricks to get him off the election. They’ll also remove the scandal for you, which he is striving for.
      2) The Internet has long surpassed television in popularity. Thanks to the fact that he took away bread from the grannies. The Internet is now a great hotbed of gossip.
      3) Power at the expense of bulk does not attract people to its side, do not flatter yourself. The people themselves see who is who.
  20. Seraph
    Seraph 16 August 2013 10: 08
    +5
    Correct article. Together with yesterday's article "about dolphins and anchovies" it aptly describes the universal farce that happened to the whole world, especially its liberal part, before our very eyes. A couple of decades have passed since the times of the USSR, and people were replaced as - "there were people like people ..." (Brother-2)
    The time has come when everyone must decide whether to remain human or turn into an animal. "Observe how dangerous you walk"
  21. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 16 August 2013 10: 11
    +3
    I agree with the article.

    PS
    Vladimir Vladimirovich seems to be using trial and error, finally a good team of advisers has formed, judging by the events of the current year.
    1. PB1995
      PB1995 16 August 2013 10: 34
      -2
      judging by the events of the current year
      I'm shy to ask which one?
  22. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 16 August 2013 10: 13
    +4
    Navalny himself says that he has no goal of winning. Behind the scenes, he thus gathers in the capital a "protest electorate" around his figure, which he will lead at a critical moment ... but where and to whom he will lead, this is an interesting question.


  23. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 16 August 2013 10: 28
    +6
    I would rephrase Nakhalny’s election motto, oh excuse Navalny from Change Russia to Change Russia, this suits him better.
  24. angolaforever
    angolaforever 16 August 2013 10: 41
    +3
    Quote: Constantine
    Quote: Oskar
    Navalny is a thief, and Serdyukov is an effective manager.


    No need to be driven. An investigation is underway. That's when all the dots will be placed over the "i" and the judgments are over, then we will judge who is who and why. At the moment, this verbiage is about the same rank as the NATO base in Ulyanovsk. hi

    Do you even believe in yourself or a cyber warrior of special services? Although the president pursues an effective foreign policy, an almighty clan is evident within the country. Serdyukov would have sat for a long time if he had not had the opportunity to drag the top with him in case of landing.
    1. Constantine
      Constantine 16 August 2013 12: 38
      -2
      Quote: angolaforever
      Do you even believe in yourself or a cyber warrior of special services? Although the president pursues an effective foreign policy, an almighty clan is evident within the country. Serdyukov would have sat for a long time if he had not had the opportunity to drag the top with him in case of landing.


      The top is not homogeneous. I believe in myself.
  25. Djubal
    Djubal 16 August 2013 10: 43
    +6
    Our opposition is so opposed, you will not admire it! But many thanks to her, SUCH opposition is the best support for the existing government and, accordingly, the stability of the state. If an intelligent person was in opposition, "interesting times" could come again in the country if they were not right. But the places in the opposition camps are occupied by outright clowns, and even a stigma in the cannon. Therefore, the thought is gnawing, maybe the opposition in this form is a government project? If not, then the luck is incredible, if yes, then just a brilliant move.
  26. crambol
    crambol 16 August 2013 10: 44
    +2
    Quote: Kibalchish
    Bulk himself says that he has no goal to win.

    His goal is to catch up with the stench as much as possible.
  27. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 16 August 2013 10: 51
    +2
    Any psychologist will tell you that persuading "to stop the tantrum" will never lead to anything, and the best "cure" in this case is an ordinary slap in the face.
    In this case, the best medicine is felling. No matter how masochist this "fake" is, this medicine will be enough for him. Five to ten years of treatment with confiscation, with a compulsory ban on admission to civil service, holding positions related to management and / or social work (including education) and appearances in the media. There is nothing to muddy the waters. Do not create restrictions on hiring for working specialties.
    After consistently such "treatment" of EVERY subsequent "fake" arising, those who wish to this role will quickly transfer.
    Rashusolivanie about the fact that IT does not have a political / economic program and IT is afraid to sit in the power chair - baby talk. He will sit still, will steal as soon as the position allows (the criminal case has shown this) and will not turn red. It will also stink all over the country. THERE are no moral limitations in principle. And he won’t have to think. For him, uncles from abroad will think and send decisions by a list. You understand what solutions.
  28. xomaNN
    xomaNN 16 August 2013 10: 51
    +1
    Some new face of Appasia should have appeared. Spent political material such as Kasparov, Nemtsov, Kasyanov and so on. 10% of sponsors' money was no longer worth it. Do u have enough. during the election campaign of the Moscow mayor, the power of the mind and quick wits to give everyone the opportunity to be convinced of the idle talk and insolvency of bulk?
  29. Combitor
    Combitor 16 August 2013 10: 56
    -5
    It is strange that the news of the day has not yet been "displayed" on the pages of the Military Review. To guard the "dear presidential body" a special unit will be created, a kind of Putin's personal guard. He will even sign a corresponding decree for this. It is not the first time for him to replace the Basic Law of the country with his decrees. This news was published by many (far from "yellow") publications. Is Putin not enough army, navy, FSB, FSO, police? We also need personal special forces. Who was the Fuhrer so afraid of? Isn't it Navalny? Or is he afraid of the Russian people?
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 16 August 2013 11: 18
      +1
      Quote: Kombitor
      He will even sign a corresponding decree for this.

      When he signs and most importantly what he signs, then we'll talk ...
    2. Aristarch
      Aristarch 16 August 2013 12: 15
      +1
      Quote: Kombitor
      (far from "yellow") editions.

      Yes, and you yourself are far from a patriot)))
    3. polly
      polly 16 August 2013 12: 46
      +1
      News with a "beard": once again spreads with different time intervals ... smile
    4. LaGlobal
      LaGlobal 16 August 2013 13: 11
      +1
      Quote: Kombitor
      To guard the "dear presidential body" a special unit will be created, a kind of Putin's personal guard.


      Do you think that our DEAR president should not be properly guarded ?????
      Then, my friend, you are not quite smart!

      And for that matter, the profession “president of the RUSSIAN FEDERATION” is one of the most dangerous in the country, and even in the world. In any case, there are few specialists who have tried on 11 times during the 12 years of work - like Putin. The danger of the presidency in Russia is even confirmed by US experts: they consider Putin to be target No. 2 in the list of world leaders.
      1. Normal
        Normal 16 August 2013 19: 15
        0
        Quote: LaGlobal
        profession "president of the RUSSIAN FEDERATION"

        This is not a profession, not a title or even a hobby))) This is a MUST. That is, the person occupying it MUST. But the GDP is so great that it owes nothing to anyone, especially to some people of the Russian Federation.
        Quote: LaGlobal
        one of the most dangerous in the country


        "... You want someone, you want someone go ask.
        How hard it is to be a ruler.
        Vaughn, the main shepherd in Russia.
        And the one with the bodyguard.
        And I'll wave the glass.
        And look, there is no more fear!
        And I’ll go for a walk.
        Yes, without body armor!
        Eh, once, and again, and many, many times ... "

        V. Tretyakov
        1. Ziksura
          Ziksura 16 August 2013 19: 44
          0
          Quote: Normal
          And I’ll go for a walk.
          Yes, without body armor!

          Are you normal at all? Then you tell me the border guard who trumpeted in the Caucasian special "rubbing" about combat readiness with an advance announcement two weeks in advance and no other way, now you actually question the need to protect the top officials .... Tomorrow, what will happen? "Rip off shoulder straps, let's go to Vlasov !!!" ????? We are talking only about the beginning of the training of officers for the FSO special forces on the basis of the Ryazan Airborne Force School. Everything was created in the USSR. We juggled a little with concepts and "hello" .....
          1. Normal
            Normal 16 August 2013 20: 58
            0
            Quote: Ziksura
            Are you normal?

            One more ... Well, for the next of the most gifted, I explain in detail the last time.
            1. I am Normal , and there is help laughing
            2. My nickname is to some extent a provocation that reveals people of a certain mental state. That is, if a person is surprised, indignant, or in any other way offended that someone considers himself normal, then this person cannot be considered normal. To consider oneself normal is normal. Considering an opponent is not normal, or at least publicly wondering if he is normal, this is at least not cultural, but as a maximum a sign of the abnormality of the interested person.
            Usually, I simply ignore such instances, although there are exceptions.
            I pay so much attention to you because even in this row you stand out not for the better. It's not about the attitude towards me, but about the semantic load of your posts.
            You write confusedly and with anguish, I would even say "run over", often do not notice that you are contradicting yourself. The abundance of exclamation and question marks indicates your not quite "normal" state. If this condition is normal for you, how can you characterize you?
            Your post ending with words
            I am sure that you will not read it, well, God be with him ....
            I read it. In general, from the controversy with your participation on that topic, I realized that first you write, sorry, outright stupidity:
            Do you want like in the army ??? This is something like this: at 3 am an unexpected rise in alarm and running (literally) to work and there at an accelerated pace of 150% of production, failed - ten shifts out of turn; any "jamb" - from 1st to 10 shifts out of turn, insubordination - tribunal and disciplinary team;
            then you try to justify and correct these nonsense:
            And for those who did not understand: it is impossible to project the methods of the army on civilian life. The integrity of concepts is important. If you want any part of civil society to have a military organizational structure, then get ready to live in the following regime: "at 3 a.m. an unexpected rise in alarm and run (literally) to work and there at an accelerated pace of 150% of the output, failed - ten shifts out of turn; any "jamb" - from 1st to 10 shifts out of turn, insubordination - tribunal and disciplinary team
            That is, you yourself come up with something, then you attribute your thoughts to your opponents and you yourself object to them. This is called demagoguery if it is conscious. Or is it not the ability to control the "squadron of their crazy thoughts", but this is already a symptom.
            This quote is very characteristic and, as it seems to me, characterizes your way of communication
            Where did you see propaganda of something here ????? !!!!!! It was a counter propaganda demagogic insanity. Attempts to mix the military and civilian systems of society, acidic with fresh, stove with refrigerator (underline as necessary)

            From the beginning, you fantasize, and then vote heartily about the counter-propaganda of demagogic insanity, which you yourself are doing.
            1. Ziksura
              Ziksura 16 August 2013 21: 36
              -2
              Quote: Normal
              You write confusedly and with anguish, I would even say "run over", often do not notice that you are contradicting yourself.

              I don’t contradict myself either how much, then or now ... Last time, I caricatured depicted what would happen if, then what was planned (I’m not noticing you, why you still got involved in that argument for me) to realize. And I was very surprised that my cartoon began to be interpreted by you as an image of my thoughts. Lack of sense of humor .... Oh well, I don’t want to go down to your level, a little word against the diagnosis right away. In short, the flip is complete, from here there is doubt about the reliability of the certificate.
              Quote: Normal
              if there is a person who is surprised, indignant, or in any other way hurt that someone considers himself normal, then this person cannot be considered normal.
              Yes, call yourself at least supergineal with a diploma and a license laughing We are not here with you in a medical forum. The site is called "Military Review". And in this context I am outraged by your "normality" in matters of actual denial:
              1. The existence of troops of constant combat readiness.
              2. Ensuring the safety of the supreme commander.

              And nothing more. Do not fantasize too much. And you have nothing to object to, what is written is written. I will notice you.

              Quote: Normal
              My nickname is to some extent a provocation that reveals people of a certain mental state.

              You seem like a provocateur like a cartoonist. With the difference that I initially do not write down all those who disagree with me in some idiots.
              1. Normal
                Normal 16 August 2013 23: 01
                +2
                Quote: Ziksura
                I’m not contradicting myself for how much, then or now

                Constantly, then and now. The rest of the text is solid demagogy. Constant distortion and denial of what was just said by himself and again a return to what was originally said.
                Quote: Ziksura
                1. The existence of troops of constant combat readiness.

                An attempt to replace the requirement of the president's responsibility for the officials appointed by him with a caricature, substituting a caricature for real combat readiness and replacing the combat readiness of troops (104 SDA of the Airborne Forces deployed in the KZakVO was part of the "constant combat readiness" troops?) With the specifics of the border service is this sense of humor?

                Quote: Ziksura
                (I’ll not note by you why you got involved in that dispute for me there is still a question)

                I note that the comments are publicly available and publicly available, therefore if you speak out, then no one is obligated to ask you for permission to comment on your statement.
                I will note that you yourself "got involved in an argument" and commented on the posts of a visitor under the nickname "old man 54" addressed not to you, but to Geisenberg
                What is your "still question" after that? Do not have time to follow the flight of your thoughts? Yes, and today I did not seem to communicate with you either. What doesn't suit you?
                Quote: Ziksura
                2. Ensuring the safety of the supreme commander.

                Are you a specialist in this matter?
                Quote: LaGlobal
                In any case, there are few specialists who have encroached on 11 times in 12 years of work - like Putin.

                How many attempts from this number can be considered serious, how many are real, and how many PR?
                Quote: LaGlobal
                The danger of the presidency in Russia is even confirmed by US experts:

                "The site is called" Military Review "and why did the US experts become authorities here?
                Quote: Ziksura
                in this context, I am outraged by your "normality" in matters of actual denial: ...... Campaign provocateur you are the same as I am a cartoonist ...... Do not fantasize too much. And you have nothing to argue

                Well, in the realm of fantasy, I can’t keep up with you. To object that I have found and it is not necessary for me to decide what I eat and what I have nothing. Your abnormality does not disturb me. My nickname worked. Farewell.
                To ignore!
    5. Ziksura
      Ziksura 16 August 2013 19: 31
      -1
      Quote: Kombitor
      A special unit will be created to guard the "dear presidential body"

      Well yes!!!! A year ago, he created the national guard ..... Division of eleven .....

      Special forces of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation are already disbanded ??? Or did you just wake up ???
  30. angolaforever
    angolaforever 16 August 2013 10: 56
    +3
    As zadolbali already on the military website articles about domestic politics. I read with interest about the external, as it relates to the balance of power in hostilities. But reading PR articles written by cyber agents of the special services, plus the comments of a couple of people with dozens of accounts on them, is not at all interesting. It is sad that these people, instead of raising Russia's image on foreign resources, work out the salary of the incumbent President among their citizens.
  31. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 16 August 2013 11: 13
    +5
    Guys - turn on your head.

    Remember the pre-election hysteria over the Orange Revolution?
    Let’s suppose for a moment that the State Department is in charge of Navalny: tell me, what do the mentally retarded work in the State Department? No? While the State Department could allow Navalny and Nemtsov-Ryzhkov, who 98% of the population hates, to stand by, this is a guaranteed failure.

    On the other hand, he cannot be an independent figure - he has clearly strong funding.

    Think - who benefits from a figure who likes his revelations, which poses an apparent threat to the current government, but which, as a result of its relations with the German-redheads, will never gain the most votes?
    1. Micex
      Micex 16 August 2013 11: 41
      +7
      so I fully support this version. besides that he will never be elected - this is a fact, it is worth asking a question - where does he get confidential information not only about strangers' apartments, but also about not unknown drank in Transneft ??? Why did the case get to court exactly at the time when an economic amnesty was announced in the Russian Federation? Where have you seen that the "repressed alive" was released to participate in the elections?)))
      In short, I like their very competent policy, everything was played beautifully beautifully.
  32. Ilya Mikhalych
    Ilya Mikhalych 16 August 2013 11: 20
    +4
    This Navalny lifted up already, once a week his face flashes on a box. Who the hell is he? What will he change? Same thing to me, Lenin v 2.0. What a sane person will go after this epic stuffed scarecrow.
    1. Alca
      Alca 16 August 2013 12: 14
      -2
      It’s better to silently grab a denyushka and throw people’s handouts so that they don’t stink and have a good time.
  33. klavyr
    klavyr 16 August 2013 11: 22
    +5
    Its goal is to create the ground for the Orange Revolution. But as a result, there will be a change of power of some crooks by others (sewed on American soap), which us..t on Russia and all its people. Navalny is a project of the State Department, created to split Russian society, and later the state. I don’t believe him. A swindler is hiding behind the image of a "patriot".
  34. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 16 August 2013 11: 37
    +3
    Quote: Yarosvet
    Think - who benefits from such a figure,

    Well, it is quite understandable here, for those who have been wiped away from the trough and "proximity to the body", for those who benefit from any "muddy". Their motto is the same as in the well-known proverb "I will not catch up, so I will keep warm". Well, why should I "harness" for them
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 16 August 2013 12: 14
      0
      I don’t know who you are going to harness for, but ATP (or whatever they are called now) is not profitable, since they simply have nothing to catch. as a result of which they are used as a horror story.

      Navalny could be beneficial to Prokhorov, but for the time being, he is unnoticed in relations with him - therefore, most likely these are different projects at the moment.

      So, in search of a beneficiary, take higher.
  35. Sirs
    Sirs 16 August 2013 12: 00
    -2
    Bulk to the mayors !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to the city of Vorkuta. honest politicians are needed there.
    in fact, they are needed everywhere.
    I don’t know Navalny - maybe he is a good man and honest. Maybe they will make him an offer to become the head of the anti-corruption committee
  36. Alca
    Alca 16 August 2013 12: 19
    -3
    Article, there is no evidence that bulk studied in the USA. Nashi 15-ruble more and more lie, and you believe, just do not forget to remove the noodles, it’s already hanging around the knee.
  37. ed65b
    ed65b 16 August 2013 12: 19
    +3
    Zhirinovsky well done, Navalny lowers like a loshka and he is a loshka. After the election, he will go to his friend Hodor to the zone. There he is already waiting for a personal sewing machine and a place under the key.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 16 August 2013 19: 10
      +2
      Quote: ed65b
      There he is already waiting for a personal sewing machine and a place under the key.

      !!!!!!!!!!!!! +++++++++++++ Well, a new cut of cowards. For export. For Europe. With a cut. And not in front.
  38. Victor Kamenev
    16 August 2013 12: 37
    +1
    About corruption ... Corruption is a delicate matter, it is a type of crime. Imagine that someone has decided to defeat crime, to fight to the last criminal ... He will ruin everything, it's not for nothing that people say: simplicity is more expensive than theft. It is necessary to fight corruption, what we are talking about, but making it "politics" is political corruption, it will lead to even greater theft.
    An interesting question: why our 5th column is not taken "under white hands"? Under Surkov, by the way. took, does not help much. Perhaps this is a consequence of the fact that our legislation today is the most liberal in the world, our "agents" on it are "in the law." Officially, we do not have enemies abroad, so the fifth column is, as it were, impossible ...
    But in the States, there is practically no fifth, and as soon as she appears, they immediately pressure. There are specials for this. the law "On anti-American activities", perhaps it is time for Russia to take a closer look at this experience of advanced "democracy".
  39. yan
    yan 16 August 2013 12: 39
    +3
    the analogy came to an interesting mind. Bulk comrades are very sectarians reminiscent. And the same manners and agitation methods are very similar in many ways. Obsession to sneak, and eternal smile. However, almost according to their scenario the conversation immediately accused of inferiority. Funny
  40. Normal
    Normal 16 August 2013 13: 31
    +2
    The article is one continuous fake. Article minus.
    If we remove the concept of "bulk" in the article and replace it with the concept of "power", the current "power", then there are no contradictions, everything converges again. Well, almost everything.
    В his on the face, we are dealing with a fake (fake - English) policy in its purest form, when instead of discussing the essence, they turn to individuals, and insults, ridicule, cynical jokes with subtext, accusations are used

    We remove "him" and mean Putin. Converges. And cynical jokes with overtones and ridicule and not a desire to discuss their politics on the merits.
    Naive political scientists are amazed that Navalny has no economic, foreign or domestic "policy" - and he simply does not need it. In this hypothetical case, he has “experts” whom he allegedly can always attract, but in reality he has long been with them, apparently on the content.

    We remove "Navalny" from the quote and ... we get Putin at the beginning of his reign.
    “And I do not believe in the pretty picture that many believed in, in which the young beautiful lawyer came out alone to fight the huge state machine. This cannot be simply because it does not happen. History does not know such a lone hero. I would not have believed it, even if I hadn’t personally been acquainted with Navalny, but I personally knew him. I believe that smart, strong and influential people are behind Navalny, this is their project, they relied on him. ”

    And I do not believe that the GDP single-handedly resisted the global evil and the Russian oligarchy, saved the country from collapse. "History does not know such a lone hero," but this does not prevent the pro-government from making an icon out of Putin.
  41. individual
    individual 16 August 2013 13: 31
    +1
    Navalny is the result of a mutation of a lawyer into a holy fool.
  42. Normal
    Normal 16 August 2013 13: 33
    0
    In the case of political hysteria, the best means, respectively, is a good “public slap in the face”, so our fakes are best treated by “Doctor Zhirinovsky,” who has a lot of practice in this area. Not everyone likes him, let alone what he is.

    If for Kamenev Zhirinovsky is an authority and a "doctor", then Kamenev needs a real doctor. But this is unlikely. Most likely the author would like to become Zhirinovsky, but not destiny.
    The new internal political strategy “after Surkov” seems to consist in squeezing fakes like abscesses into public space so that everyone can smell their real smell. After opening the abscess, it is known to be easier to treat.

    Even pimple youths know that it is impossible to crush abscesses, especially on the face.
    Of course, it usually rolls, but it happens that and vice versa - you can get covered with acne from head to toe, or even get blood poisoning. The author writes "as is known"; Either he is deliberately lying, or he is simply hygienically illiterate.
    The fake smell of the current election campaign is, of course, not for refined noses, but what can you do if the Kremlin has decided to try to turn their weapons against the fakes. In the summer, when even the ordinary life in Russia stops, this tactic can be successful, and now it's summer in Russia.

    No, dear. It was not the Kremlin that turned their weapons against the fakes. This fake Kremlin policy has led to the emergence of such opposition and such an "enemy." For many years, the Kremlin destroyed all any germs of real opposition in the political space and cultivated pseudo opposition with tame leaders at its head. And the current "Navalny" thistle probably has its roots in the Kremlin greenhouse.
  43. Pimply
    Pimply 16 August 2013 13: 34
    +3
    No matter how much saliva flows here, one thing must be understood: the opposition is needed so that the elite do not gobble up. The opposition does not allow the elite to relax. The stronger the opposition, the greater the chance that the elite will not behave like a snickering boar. And a change of elites is also necessary - again for the same. There is nothing good in constant stability - it grows into a swamp. With all its drawbacks, Navalny returned to Russia an interest in politics, and made the top move. And politics and elections are just a chance that everything will not end someday with blood. Because the revolution is not arranged by the bulk and not by the Americans - they are satisfied with people who are disgusted with everything.
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  45. Ivan_Ivanov
    Ivan_Ivanov 16 August 2013 14: 23
    +3
    bulk, start with yourself
  46. Zhenya
    Zhenya 16 August 2013 14: 32
    -7
    And why is everyone silent about Sobyanin? 70% of the population of Moscow is against him, he is a mediocre and illiterate mayor, but according to SOC polls (wrong chocks), 70% support him !!!!! residents of the city, and where are the elections? Where? One lie.
    1. Constantine
      Constantine 17 August 2013 09: 55
      -1
      Quote: Marrying
      And why is everyone silent about Sobyanin? 70% of the population of Moscow is against him, he is a mediocre and illiterate mayor, but according to SOC polls (wrong chocks), 70% support him !!!!! residents of the city, and where are the elections? Where? One lie.


      Everyone I know is for Sobyanin. Nobody even takes your Clown seriously. Everyone is looking at business.

      It became more convenient to travel by public transport, the roadway remains alive longer, queues in the subway have forgotten everything, chaotically scattered tents with incomprehensible things — forgot, stretch marks on the streets — forgot, obscure people requiring a parking fee out of the blue — forgot, new interchanges, which to me personally, save about 30 minutes. You can continue to list, but what did Navalny do except verbiage? wassat
  47. Muadipus
    Muadipus 16 August 2013 14: 32
    +4
    The slogan "Change Russia, start with Moscow" against the background of the pedestal "Moscow" - - Why does he not like the pedestal, why change it?

    Shl. I don’t take Navalny seriously, not by sight, not by ear, not by his deeds. He's kind of "small" in the broad sense of the word. Medvedev evoked similar emotions in me ... and 4 years have proved it.

    A great country, a great city must be ruled by great people. And we are all as in a song sung:
    "We crown our enemies
    And we are waiting for grace from heaven "
  48. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 16 August 2013 14: 53
    +1
    Kind! I’m wondering, from boredom I got into measures or what? I remember only one thing about him - Blogger ..... I think everyone knows who a blogger is!
  49. voliador
    voliador 16 August 2013 14: 56
    +1
    And what does this liberal want to change. And most importantly in what way? Perhaps not because of what McFaul pointed out to him at his first meeting with our "liberal opposition." As far as I remember, he was at this meeting.
  50. adversa
    adversa 16 August 2013 15: 44
    0
    yes let him become mayor of Moscow. After half a year they arrest for bribes