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Fake policy. Option "Bulk"

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“Whether he has flown in his head for five years in a day, and something has clouded, or he is not quite all right, but his statement that political scientists need to be fed to beasts is unacceptable and outrageous. What does he do in politics if he doesn't look serious? ”Said one incomprehensible political scientist about Alexei Navalny. Really, what is he doing in politics?




In his face we are dealing with fake (fake - English) politics in its pure form, when instead of discussing essentially go to the individual, and in the course go insults, ridicule, cynical jokes with subtext, accusations (today in the fashion of corruption charges, but it does not matter). In fact, this is fraud, political corruption, but criminal law does not apply to the political sphere, and such a term does not exist, but fraudsters therefore like to engage in part-time politics.

Recurrences of the fake policy happened before, but today it is becoming a political strategy, moreover, a global trend. The “human rights policy”, LBHT policies are fakes that hide the other, real goals of their organizers: interfering in the internal affairs of foreign states for self-serving purposes. If big politics became fake, then political adventurers, as they say, God himself commanded her to do it.

The “Navalny” phenomenon is our home-grown fake, political fraud, and in addition, prostitution with “Western values”, grants, sponsors and “Russian nationalists”, burdened by a dark “legal” past.

Naive political scientists are amazed that Navalny has no economic, foreign or domestic "policy" - and he simply does not need it. In this hypothetical case, he has “experts” whom he allegedly can always attract, but in reality he has long been with them, apparently on the content.

A companion of Navalny in Yabloko, a certain Tareeva, is frank today: “And I don’t believe in a pretty picture that many people believed in, in which a young fine lawyer went one-on-one to fight a huge state machine. This can not be simply because it does not happen. History doesn't know such a lonely hero. I would not believe it, even if I did not personally know Navalny, but I personally know him. I believe that smart, strong and influential people stand behind Navalny, this is their project, they made a bet on it. ”

What is happiness fake? All people are not sinless, so he will always find something to postebat. You can find fault with any Sobyanin, Putin and even the Pope, find some “incriminating evidence” - and then let them figure it out ... In general, this is nothing new - the usual type of demagogue, in all its disgusting magnificence. Anything that falls on him is “God's dew” because he is a priori “white and fluffy”. When asked about "legal" affairs, he takes the pose of an offended righteous person. Therefore, political analysts who dare to question his greatness, you need to feed the animals in the zoo. This "joke", but also fighting weapon fake hinting that in every joke there is something ...

The cat always knows whose meat has eaten, so the fake always knows its true place, and even is somewhat afraid of the political “power chair” - because it does not need it at all. It is necessary for its “sponsors”, and he will be at ease in it, and he knows that at the first failure he will be handed over, and his “sponsors” will eat him. His element is the “movement” itself, for which he receives his “moment of glory” and that is attached to it.

Hence the tactic of Navalny - balancing on the verge of a foul. But today, when he got to the "electoral distance" - and then beyond the foul. And he is doing everything possible to be removed from this distance - in this case, he reaches the maximum fake scandal.

Therefore, he is not only grimacing, but also substituted as he can. “Foreign financing”, dirty technologies from the “independent” “Navalny Brothers” - will there be anything further? The worst option for him is to participate in the mayoral elections, to receive his “legitimate” minimum, which, with his loud promises, is an obvious failure. However, therefore, the goal of “power” is to force him to participate in elections, for the sake of this she is ready to close her eyes on his “legal” past, at least for a while.

When the Kremlin’s “party” policy was defined by Surkov, the fakes were indicatively “screwed” for formal reasons, like hooligans, but then it became annoying, especially since the fakes themselves, and Western journalists, clearly got sadomasochistic pleasure from it. It seems that the new internal political strategy “after Surkov” consists in squeezing fakes, like ulcers, into public space, so that everyone can feel their real smell. After opening the abscess, he is known to be easier to treat.

Any psychologist will tell you that persuading "to stop a tantrum" will never lead to anything, and the best "medicine" in this case is a common slap in the face. In the case of political hysteria, a good “public slap in the face” is therefore the best way, so our doctor is best practiced by Dr. Zhirinovsky, who has a lot of practice in this area. Not everyone likes it, so what it is.

The fake smell of the current election campaign is, of course, not for refined noses, but what can you do if the Kremlin has decided to try to turn their weapons against the fakes. In the summer, when even the ordinary life in Russia stops, this tactic can be successful, and now it's summer in Russia.
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  1. DEMENTIY
    DEMENTIY 16 August 2013 08: 38 New
    26
    Change Russia, start from Moscow.

    Bulk.
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 16 August 2013 08: 48 New
      26
      I agree from cover to cover. Even despite this curtsy.
      What is fake happiness? All people are not sinless, therefore, he will always find something to ponder over. You can find fault with any Sobyanin, Putin and even the Pope of Rome, find some kind of “compromising evidence” - and then let them understand ...

      The essence of Navalnongo is not to win, I say a long time.
      Again, well, they will choose Navalny, and then what? What can he offer us something? How to develop the economy? What will happen with the military-industrial complex. I have not heard anything from him. And when he becomes personal, it’s generally ..
      And a man who calls his supporters rams and hamsters, like this ... wassat
      In general, in the furnace of Navalny, along with all his gang - a watering can!
      And yes, I put the article plus.
      1. little man
        little man 16 August 2013 10: 05 New
        -32
        In general, in the furnace of Navalny, along with all his gang - a watering can!
        Yeah. But why trifle - all in the furnace. Leave edrosov well and grease for seasoning.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 16 August 2013 10: 35 New
          +9
          Quote: man
          Well, and grease for seasoning.


          I agree, the main fighter against corruption on Maybach for 1 million raccoons killed, but on the counter on Tverskaya, where without him
          1. Constantine
            Constantine 16 August 2013 11: 49 New
            12
            Quote: Vadivak
            I agree, the main fighter against corruption on Maybach for 1 million raccoons killed, but on the counter on Tverskaya, where without him


            Even Rolls-Royce Phantom in full stuffing is not so much. You probably mixed up Maybach with Buggati. hi No need to play with numbers. It's not good and shameful hi
            1. fzr1000
              fzr1000 16 August 2013 12: 58 New
              +8
              Yes. Let it be 500-600 thousand dollars. We are for honesty!
              1. Constantine
                Constantine 16 August 2013 13: 25 New
                +6
                Quote: fzr1000
                Yes. Let it be 500-600 thousand dollars. We are for honesty!


                And not even so much, but many times less. There's a meaning. When the numbers are overestimated, there is a comparative reflex and an excessive reaction, which is not supported by anything. Particularly sensitive then they will go to spread this information and pass it off as truth, encounter a knowledgeable person and there will be a hard butt. What for? It is better to operate with real numbers. wink
            2. Vadivak
              Vadivak 16 August 2013 15: 05 New
              +4
              Quote: Constantine
              Even Rolls-Royce Phantom in full stuffing is not so much. You probably mixed up Maybach with Buggati. hi No need to play with numbers. It's not good and shameful hi


              You go to the Maybach website, look at the prices, then shame

              Price for Maybach Exelero (Maybach Exceller)
              The price starts from 240 million rubles.

              The owner of the most expensive sports car in the world was the American rapper Brian Williams, who without hesitation paid for Maybach Exelero, whose technical specifications beat all known records, more than $ 8 million. Such a PR company will forever remain in the history of engineering as one of the most expensive in the world. . It is possible that if in the next few years this record is not broken by competitors, then the advertising campaign can be entered in the Guinness Book of Records.
            3. Hon
              Hon 16 August 2013 16: 32 New
              +3
              Quote: Constantine
              Even Rolls-Royce Phantom in full stuffing is not so much. You probably mixed up Maybach with Buggati. hi No need to play with numbers. It's not good and shameful

              Maybach is more expensive than a roll-royce, there are copies much more expensive than $ 1. Zhirik like armor, so lam is quite an adequate price for it
          2. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 21 August 2013 14: 17 New
            -1
            Ну за свой цирк, Жирик майбах "заслужил"20 лет его цирка,я думаю стоят ,этого катафалка!
        2. klimpopov
          klimpopov 16 August 2013 10: 42 New
          +1
          Yeah. But why trifle - all in the furnace. Leave edrosov well and grease for seasoning.

          Not! If so, then leave no one!
          1. Val_y
            Val_y 16 August 2013 11: 16 New
            +2
            And who instead ??? And who will burn people, their children, wives, think a good citizen No. ("свистеть не мешки таскать")
            1. klimpopov
              klimpopov 16 August 2013 12: 19 New
              +5
              Вы видимо сарказма не заметили. Ну и "в топку" это скорее образное выражение. Скажем так - на задворки политической жизни. А лучше на задворки нашей необъятной Родины. Так понятнее?
              1. yurii p
                yurii p 16 August 2013 16: 50 New
                +1
                Yes, yes, and where there is no TV, electricity, and from the achievements of civilization, a shovel and pickaxe.
          2. 6216390
            6216390 16 August 2013 11: 21 New
            +2
            Quote: klimpopov
            Not! If so, then leave no one!

            It will become boring to live, and at least they will have fun.
            1. alicante11
              alicante11 16 August 2013 15: 07 New
              +1
              It will become boring to live, and at least they will have fun.


              Zadornov and Petrosyan are cheaper.
        3. DEfindER
          DEfindER 16 August 2013 11: 51 New
          +6
          Quote: man
          Leave edrosov well and grease for seasoning.

          edrosov’s percentage of liberals is off the charts now, one bear is worth it, only the Communists somehow keep them from antisocial reforms, if they had the will to do unlimited working hours, cut the social program, the austerity regime that the bear wants to sell, and would get crisis like in europe ..
          1. PB1995
            PB1995 16 August 2013 12: 02 New
            -7
            in the Duma only Communists somehow keep them from antisocial reforms
            Communists in the Duma - 92, and edrosov - 238. How do they keep them?

            social reduced
            As far as I know, there was such a topic that defense spending is growing due to reduced funding for education and medicine.

            austerity mode
            If we spend money beyond measure and do not save, we will again get a crisis.
            1. DEfindER
              DEfindER 16 August 2013 13: 04 New
              +4
              Quote: PB1995
              Communists in the Duma - 92, and edrosov - 238. How do they keep them?

              Repeatedly boycotted the vote in the Duma, preventing the adoption of anti-popular decisions.
              Quote: PB1995
              If we spend money beyond measure and do not save, we will again get a crisis.

              Nobody offers to spend beyond measure, we do not even spend them to the best, because Libels prefer to keep money in Western debt papers, instead of spending them on social programs and internal development. And the endless accumulation of funds in Western banks knows what leads to, they will find a violation of human rights in our country and freeze accounts ..
              1. igor.borov775
                igor.borov775 17 August 2013 02: 34 New
                +1
                Not everything is so simple, China spends a lot of it on industrialization inside the country, Old production takes out and builds modern, Now companies that have old equipment become uncomfortable, Internal standards are tightened and those who cannot produce such products begin to lose concessional lending, Most importantly, product standards pledged not lower than the world ones, but I mean the state keeps it in government securities of other countries, Now an attempt is being made to invest in the economy with us, do you think it easily happens there over the hill, they resist such decisions and even liberal economists are driving a wave they say everything is stolen,
            2. igor.borov775
              igor.borov775 17 August 2013 02: 08 New
              +1
              Hi, I have been reading all the familiar speeches for 30 years now, And please explain to me such a passage, Russian Railways didn’t fulfill the cargo transportation plan compared to last year, but received very high profits, Explain how this is possible in a normal country, Vesti-24 TV is sometimes just amaze with their information that our large companies officially announce, What is it talking about! Listen and see what our largest companies say, A little less was made and more profit, True, there were some who made more and earned like last year, It was said that the world market price drop but not inside the country, This is about Gazprom, This is about us now now one piece of news for thought, Since 2009, the Yankees have been printing bucks, and now it turned out in America there is not enough cash where they have flown it, We don’t have to consider us ignoramuses, it’s just annoying that these liberals are trying to justify,
            3. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 21 August 2013 15: 21 New
              0
              Просто про кризис в СССР,это байки придуманные ЦРУ и прочими борцами!!!Изначально революция делалась немцами, на деньги "американских" евреев,"русскими"евреями-бундавцеми во главе с троцким,но Великий СТАЛИН халяву им поломал, за что в 53г его и убили!!!Но ребята с пунктиком ,ушлые ребята,к воцарению андропова,ребята типа,меченного уже сидели на нужных точках,страну развалила евреесионистское подполье,в виде спекулянта,плановика,экспедитора не привезший вовремя товар,короче 5 колонна,при Сталине МГБ работало,а при андропове пошло наборот,Щелоков видимо сильно мешал вот и убрали!!Короче наша русская беспечность,авось....вечный !Горбачев..и предатель не укладывается такое в голове,а ведь предал и сколько их у власти...
          2. Alexss
            Alexss 16 August 2013 14: 45 New
            +1
            называйте вещи своими именами "олигархические проститутки". Либералами (и даже уничажительно либерастами) там и не пахнет!
      2. Val_y
        Val_y 16 August 2013 11: 13 New
        +3
        Так в этом же и дело, "война х...я, главное маневры". Взбаламучевание воды истерика, вопли, главное чтоб об этом говорили, а не про программы, действия, планы, они тусовщику не нужны.
      3. Alexss
        Alexss 16 August 2013 14: 58 New
        -4
        but I put a minus to the article and just because of:
        Quote: klimpopov
        What is fake happiness? All people are not sinless, therefore, he will always find something to ponder over. You can find fault with any Sobyanin, Putin and even the Pope of Rome, find some kind of “compromising evidence” - and then let them understand ...


        потому что: 1. уже как аксиома преподноситься что в политике нельзя найти более менее честного человека и что на любого можно найти "компромат"
        2. why one who has a stigma in a cannon (Sobyanin, Putin) is possible, but for others (Navalny) it is impossible. This is a double standards policy!

        Z.Y. Personally, I am for the fact that both of them are planted, or at least expelled from the country
        1. alicante11
          alicante11 16 August 2013 15: 09 New
          -6
          Let's just say that the GDP and the Sobyanins made a deal with the investigation and fell under an amnesty :).
        2. CTEPX
          CTEPX 16 August 2013 16: 37 New
          +1
          Quote: AlexSS
          why one with a stigma in a cannon (Sobyanin, Putin) is possible, but for others (Navalny) it is impossible.

          It's simple)). Some want to live in Russia (and where will they go?), Others want to fuck it)).
      4. dustycat
        dustycat 16 August 2013 18: 01 New
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        Quote: klimpopov
        I agree from cover to cover.

        What do you agree with?
        One fake, such as fake specials, argues for another fake that he is engaged in fake.
        Политическая возня, называемая "жизнью", есть занятие бездельников придумывающих чем оправдать невыполнение этими бездельниками функций которые на них возложены по правилам(закону) придуманному именно этими бездельниками.
        If these loafers (who call themselves politicians) performed the functions assigned to them by the people, other loafers (political scientists) would have nothing to justify their existence and the existence of previous loafers.
        After all, politicians are chosen for this purpose so that they are engaged in managing the economy, and not by reasoning about how to do this.
      5. SPACE
        SPACE 16 August 2013 20: 57 New
        +1
        Quote: klimpopov
        Again, well, they will choose Navalny, and then what?

        Bulk is just some kind of enchanted boy, with a pipe. wink Devilishly cunning plan ...? what Bulk, Moscow measures! The next day, all the marshes will become edros.laughing Long live the march of trillions! wassat
      6. zvereok
        zvereok 17 August 2013 11: 19 New
        0
        Quote: klimpopov
        I agree from cover to cover. Even despite this curtsy.
        What is fake happiness? All people are not sinless, therefore, he will always find something to ponder over. You can find fault with any Sobyanin, Putin and even the Pope of Rome, find some kind of “compromising evidence” - and then let them understand ...


        The bottom line is that while power is in power any incriminating evidence. Those. ANY, will not lead to anything. The authorities will simply make the face a brick, and the SK will not be aroused. The matter is complicated when the government will share itself with the real, and not lured, opposition. Then ignore uncomfortable questions will not succeed.

        T.O. fakes are Zhirik, the Communist Party and the CP. Bulk, this is something that could give a chance to ask the authorities. At least on the basis of this, this chance should be given to him, despite the fact that he may well miss him.

        And what, before the Pope, Duc is full of questions to him despite his holiness. For example:

        В своей книге "От первого лица" (2000 г.) В.Путин признал, что "некоторые фирмы не выполнили главного условия договора – не завезли из-за границы продукты или завезли их не в полном объеме. Они нарушили обязательства перед городом… Я считаю, что город, конечно, не сделал всего, что мог. Нужно было теснее работать с правоохранительными органами и палкой выбивать из этих фирм обещанное. Но подавать на них в суд было бессмысленно – они растворялись немедленно…"

        This is one of the facts, so to speak, the tip of the iceberg ... But Navalny was already gutted as far as he could and doused with shit from head to toe.
        1. Basil123
          Basil123 17 August 2013 16: 54 New
          +1
          he doused himself with Natsik am but about his program it ............ no words lol nothing to discuss request about the sins of ay on a branch there is no sin ............ silence request the whole question is for purposes and they have to do with him .. the people who follow him like homosexuals have a certain percentage and here there is a percentage of sectarians that they are most likely belay are being loud screams pr nude sad politically, he’s already there and the more his mouth opens, the less weight
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 16 August 2013 08: 49 New
      +7
      Quote: Author Victor Kamenev
      his statement that political scientists need to be fed to beasts is unacceptable and outrageous


      Конечно недопустимо, зверей пожалеть надо, передохнут ведь-одни сразу другие заразятся, дохлятиной питаться не все звери могут. Недавно одна зажравшаяся жаба (жаль не запомнил) по телику заявила, что "аппетиты малоимущих растут".
    3. Trailer
      Trailer 16 August 2013 08: 55 New
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      Bulk is a dark horse. But, nevertheless, I like how the bribe-taking of our bureaucrats exposes. An example is Sobyanin. First, all candidates agreed to a public debate, then Navalny gives out a piece of data on an apartment in the center of Moscow, with an area of ​​308 squares, which is recorded on the 16-year-old daughter of Sobyanin. The cost of the hut in the market is 115 million. Sobyanin over the past 10 years on his declarations earned 27 millions. In addition, this apartment is an official apartment, but it was privatized after only a year of arrival in it, although only citizens belonging to the category of orphans, disabled people or victims of natural disasters can privatize such housing. Which of these categories belonged to the daughter of Sobyanin? Oh, yes, I forgot to add it - after the publication of the data, Sobyanin refused to public debate.
      1. avt
        avt 16 August 2013 09: 47 New
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        Quote: Karavan
        Bulk is a dark horse. But, nevertheless, I like how the bribe-taking of our bureaucrats exposes. An example is Sobyanin. First, all candidates agreed to a public debate, then Navalny gives out a piece of data on an apartment in the center of Moscow, an area of ​​308 squares, which is recorded on the 16-year-old daughter of Sobyanin. The cost of the hut in the market is 115 million.

        Oh, I can’t! laughing Well, remember how the first wave of Democrats struggled with privileges under the hunchback, convicted Ryzhkov that he had privatized the cottage and what? I remember how Pochinik ran along the stairs of the building of the former CMEA in a shabby sweater, it’s also a fiery platform, even now it’s sparkling with its muzzle, and it sent its wife to give birth to the USA to obtain citizenship. What kind of shisha did you think about? Do you think that he sold a worn sweater and attached his wife to the Amersky hospital, after working in the Yeltsin government as the main tax collector? laughing Как то уже писал и повторюсь ,поскольку Пушкин наше все -,,Конечно царь;сильна твоя держава,ты милостью,раденьем и щедротой усыновил сердца своих рабов.Нознаешь сам:бессмысленная чернь изменчива,мятежна,суеверна,легко пустой надежде предана,мгновенному внушению послушна,для истины глуха и равнодушна,а баснями питается она.Ей нравится бесстыдная отвага.Так если сей неведомый бродяга границу перейдет,к нему толпу безумцев привлечет Димитрия воскреснувшее имя ." Настрадамус со своими куплетами отдыхает и нервно курит в сторонке. laughing
        1. igor.borov775
          igor.borov775 17 August 2013 03: 44 New
          +2
          I read and marvel at how everyone turned upside down. Oh, so our democrats and you have made so many laws that, according to the law, Sobyanin is right, it’s different to me where they were when they sculpted these laws of course when executed, and these laws are normal for them, and these laws are not a year old not 5 years, but much more, they all knew perfectly well, and Navalny all the more so because he advertises himself as an expert, yap, the real thing he is against a specific person, mind you, not against such LAWS, that’s what he doesn’t specifically have the right to call himself in opposition to, He’s exactly the same, BEFORE THE OPPOSITIONER IS HIM AS WALKING TO THE SKY, He does not criticize the laws does not speak about imperfection does not offer to finalize them no he just puts dirt on the person and this is miserable for the opposition
      2. aksakal
        aksakal 16 August 2013 09: 54 New
        +6
        Quote: Karavan
        Bulk is a dark horse. But, nevertheless, I like how the bribe-taking of our bureaucrats exposes

        - Mlyn, the EU in Kazakhstan lacks such a bulk am Although his existence is completely unrealistic under our conditions, on the second day his arms and legs will be broken, cars will be burned ... Let us recall the opposition Chernyshev, I don’t remember this name of the journalist who was framed with the girl. We do not flicker, and the bulk of us would live exactly 24 hours after the first serious publication, no more. But it’s a pity - even if it’s a fake, but there’s a benefit - it reduces corruption in any way. So Sobyanin will now dodge like in a pan with these apartments, decorated for his daughter ...
      3. bomg.77
        bomg.77 16 August 2013 11: 53 New
        +6
        Quote: Karavan
        Bulk - a dark horse

        Rather, a dark donkey. laughing What is he fighting there? It would be better if he told himself about what he’s living with, where did the money for the lawyers who defended him for more than a year come from, what money he’s living with? And finally, where is the Kirov forest. laughing ?
        Как говорится "начни с себя,до других не доберёшся"
      4. alone
        alone 16 August 2013 15: 05 New
        0
        and what? do you think the Sobyanin will not be a measure? Now he is actively fighting against illegal immigrants and migrants, so that the rating is on top. Once the elections are over, everything will be the same.
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 16 August 2013 15: 57 New
          0
          Yeah, he spends. 100 people gathered Koreans and sent somewhere if only the people settled down. That is all politics.
      5. CTEPX
        CTEPX 16 August 2013 16: 41 New
        0
        Quote: Karavan
        Valny gives a portion of data on an apartment in the center of Moscow, an area of ​​308 squares, which is recorded on the 16-year-old daughter of Sobyanin.

        And photo? Or at least a proof?
      6. Ziksura
        Ziksura 16 August 2013 18: 39 New
        0
        Quote: Karavan
        then Navalny gives a piece of data on an apartment in the center of Moscow, an area of ​​308 squares, which is recorded on the 16-year-old daughter of Sobyanin. The cost of the hut in the market is 115 million.

        Ай да молодец!!!!! Ни кто не нашел, а он "нарыл". Как и где не думали? Если информации в свободном доступе, то где так просто слили компромат на чиновника такого уровня. Или Собянин не вкурсе, что имущество близких родственников надо декларировать и не "спрятал концы"? А вдруг власть перименится тогда что? Примитивно.... Знавал я кандидата у которого "вдруг" нашлась элитная недвижимость, которая на поверку оказалась однушкой в панельной "брежневке". Фокус простой: "забыли" указать, что это квартира в многоквартирном доме, а не частный дом... И не предирешся, вот "забыли" и все...
        1. igor.borov775
          igor.borov775 17 August 2013 03: 50 New
          0
          I also know one person, he indicated in the declaration that he has an apartment in Moscow that is small from his ancestors and large in CHUKOTKA so what,
      7. KazaK Bo
        KazaK Bo 16 August 2013 20: 42 New
        +1
        Quote: Karavan
        Bulk is a dark horse. But, nevertheless, I like how the bribe-taking of our bureaucrats exposes.

        I absolutely agree with your comment ... Exposing corruption ... this is his hobby! But he, bastard:
        - very clean in financial matters, he stole like all bureaucrats.
        -- не красит его и подготовка в Американском институте демократических лидеров...это ведь законченный вожак из "пятой колонны"...других аМеры просто не учат
        - it really pains a provocation that he looks like a mayor of MOSCOW ... Go ahead, hundreds of articles have already been written, dozens of videos about hunting for democratic nominees from the people have been prepared ... they wait, they won’t wait ... when will they remove him from the election ... .
        Such dubious methods of widespread support among the electorate - DO NOT GET!
        1. igor.borov775
          igor.borov775 17 August 2013 03: 57 New
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          What kind of fighter is he, where did he find something that everyone gasped, No, he just got an information bubble around him, He himself admits that he takes everything from open sources, Nobody inflates the hype, but if he publishes it and everyone inflates it everywhere , And where did he get her modestly silent,
      8. Des10
        Des10 16 August 2013 22: 14 New
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        and nothing - if true - the mayor will be the mayor. Besides - everything is rotten ...
      9. igor.borov775
        igor.borov775 17 August 2013 03: 18 New
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        Before you blurt it out, you need to look around at least a little, What Navalny dug up, he took everything from free sources, The thing is completely different, Hanging infa on the official website hangs for a long time, there is no reaction, But Navalny published what started here, and the media picked up he is extolled, Almost a wrestler is still a little and will be the main one, I think the information bubble is being inflated around him intensely, And here is another moment he never admits his mistakes, every person can be wrong ICON NO, He clearly understood the values ​​of the West, always others are to blame, So he no better than our deputies even correct them and here they are not and personalities hustle around no better, One NEMTSOV with his tales that he famously threw when he was in power and worth it, but now everyone is to blame except him,
    4. Dan master
      Dan master 16 August 2013 09: 43 New
      +9
      as for Navalny, that is, an interesting info on it, as you know, he studied in the USA, http://inotv.rt.com/2013-08-09/Nemeckij-politik---o-svoej, what follows from this? , Navalny is lobbying for US interests, and the people who are studying there are leading US policy, here's a short video
      1. fartfraer
        fartfraer 16 August 2013 10: 15 New
        +6
        приведите "до кучи" список детей депутатов и пр. высших управленцев,чьи дети так же обучаются в "забугорье",либо там проживают,либо держат там свои сбережения.(сами или близкие родственники).буду рад обьективной информации
    5. eplewke
      eplewke 16 August 2013 11: 11 New
      +5
      This is Navalny mountain jester. Who takes it seriously seriously ??? Standing next to the nationalists smiled at their high hitler! Arrived ... such people still climb into politics ... Horror !!! Close on for life for espionage!
    6. dirty trick
      dirty trick 16 August 2013 12: 24 New
      +5
      and ana .. I would like this:
    7. Constantine
      Constantine 16 August 2013 15: 42 New
      +3
      Bulk in front of his electorate wassat See the comments below the video wassat
      1. zvereok
        zvereok 17 August 2013 11: 37 New
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        Quote: Constantine
        Bulk in front of his electorate wassat See comments under wassat video


        Well, yes, then someone for a barbecue, with the majority of wool, they will cut me to the pen for 6 years. Only this video is about power and people.
    8. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 21 August 2013 14: 12 New
      0
      По Навальному здесь нужно читать:ИЗМЕНИ РОССИИ,начни с Москвы!!!Вы обратили внимание как,евреесионистские"российские СМИ эту мр.........зь раскручивают...Когда же русские придут к власте?
  2. yan
    yan 16 August 2013 08: 39 New
    +8
    кто то делает деньги в бизнесе, кто то получает зарплату, кто то жалованье. А г. Навальный пытается занять нишу политического клоуна. И на виду вроде, и говоришь, что хочешь. А и не при чем вроде. А "бабки капают, а пипл хавает". Может пора уже разоблачительную кампанию начинать всей этой либерастной шайки Навальный, Немцов, и т.д. и т.п.
    1. PB1995
      PB1995 16 August 2013 09: 14 New
      +2
      Quote: yan
      Maybe it's time to start a revelatory campaign
      Что-то вы припозднились. Ведь "журналисты" с каналов НТВ и "Россия 1" уже что-то наснимали, поскольку (повторю Вашу мысль) бабки капают и пипл хавает.
      1. yan
        yan 16 August 2013 10: 09 New
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        thought, fortunately not mine, it’s someone from the Estrada community who spoke about his own work
    2. Botanologist
      Botanologist 16 August 2013 09: 19 New
      +2
      Quote: yan
      it's time to start the revelatory campaign


      Навальный, как ни странно - это аналог Жирика. Ведь основная функция Жириновского - канализирование протестного электората. У Навального, кстати, та-же функция. Только Жирик канализирует маргиналов, а Навальный - офисное хомячье. А раз вы занимаетесь хомяками, то должны их "кормить" тем, что им нравится - сплетнями и экспрессией.
      And you do not need to take Navalny seriously - another hired actress on the political stage.
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 16 August 2013 10: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: Botanologist
        А раз вы занимаетесь хомяками, то должны их "кормить" тем, что им нравится - сплетнями и экспрессией. И не нужно относиться к Навальному серьезно - очередной наемный актеришка на политической сцене.

        - given that real production is more and more automated and robotic, which leads to a decrease in the proletariat (there are other reasons there, not about that), and the amount generated by the activity and subject to processing of economic and production information is increasing, which leads to a very stable growth of office plankton (and the processing of information is the profession of this plankton), then canalization of office hamsters can turn bulk into a serious force. How not to take him seriously? By love, it will be a noticeable force. Another thing is that not all hamsters perceive it as their own, which speaks of the quality of work of the bulk, but if ...
        1. Botanologist
          Botanologist 16 August 2013 10: 38 New
          +5
          Quote: aksakal
          canalization office hamsters can turn bulk into a serious force


          Any sewage system is a process of disposal of waste from circulation. Political canalization is aimed at ensuring that the hamster does not rush to the liberals or elsewhere. Look, now they have allowed us to open lots in an easy way. What for? Yes, then, that you need to break the voter. The adherents of Yabloko will die, but they will not vote for any DPR, although by and large there is no difference between them. The same with Navalny - hamsters need to put a wheel where they will run and have fun. They put a wheel - have fun, hamsters! The electorate is being taken away from the more dangerous guys from liberal circles, in part the youth from the Communist Party. That's the whole layout.
          Will begin to gain votes - will be released on the stage of another, will be engaged in sparring for the amusement of the public.
          And you are bulk, bulk.
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 16 August 2013 14: 34 New
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            Quote: Botanologist
            Yabloko’s adherents will die, but they won’t vote for any DPR, although by and large there is no difference between them. The same with Navalny - hamsters need to put a wheel where they will run and have fun. They put a wheel - have fun, hamsters!

            - You describe commonplace political technologies. At the same time, you mean that bulk is the project of those in power. In power - Putin. Conclusion - bulk - Putin's project. Something is messing around laughing
            Мне ближе версия Тареевой: "Я считаю, что за Навальным стоят умные, сильные и влиятельные люди, это их проект, они сделали на него ставку».
            - Who are these people? They are in white and love to walk in this white through the deserts. And on foot. And they need bulk to destroy politicians who are objectionable to them. Putin became objectionable - face! Now Sobyanin - face! Then they will approach Sobyanin and ask for a plot in the center of Moscow for a major development project. And the choice is before him: either we lower the bulk chain, or give us a plot and take this little suitcase - there are many, many.
            Mlyn, give me a bulk in Kazakhstan for hire! Something began to be missed, I'm building laughing
            He is not a channelizer, an ordinary chain dog. What was the same Dorenko.
            1. Botanologist
              Botanologist 16 August 2013 19: 01 New
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              Quote: aksakal
              He is not a channelizer, an ordinary chain dog. What was the same Dorenko.


              Доренко не ориентировался на конкретную электоральную группу, поэтому он пес. А Навального завели под конкретный электорат. Поэтому он "лидер". С функцией, как я писал, канализирования. Пес, который кусает не всех, никому не нужен.
              1. aksakal
                aksakal 16 August 2013 22: 33 New
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                Quote: Botanologist
                А Навального завели под конкретный электорат. Поэтому он "лидер". С функцией, как я писал, канализирования. Пес, который кусает не всех, никому не нужен.

                - два в одном - навальный - юрист, а это - типичнейшая офисопланктоновская профессия, планктоновскее просто нету, так что для планктона он - свой. Но при этом навальный будет кусать ЛЮБОГО, на который ему укажут "ФАС!".
                By the way, I was very surprised - the gentlemen in white, the alleged owners of the bulk, on August 11, for some reason, were greatly humiliated by Ben Gurion at the airport. Honestly, I am very surprised and puzzled by this circumstance and want to clarify the situation - what's the matter? For what? After all, it seems like you need to be proud - your fellow tribesmen who have achieved such successes on a foreign land, surrounded by a foreign people, and they are treading them at the ISRAELI airport! belay Maybe someone from Israel will explain what the joke is? Didn’t you fork out in time?
          2. CTEPX
            CTEPX 16 August 2013 17: 12 New
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            Quote: Botanologist
            Look, now they have allowed us to open lots in an easy way. What for? Yes, then, that you need to break the voter.

            And this is - preference)). Are you us- Bulk? And we - minuscule!)).
      2. Normal
        Normal 16 August 2013 12: 39 New
        +3
        Quote: Botanologist
        And do not take Navalny seriously

        Come on ... Why so much attention and anger. Both Zhirinovsky and Dorenko have already been noted and this article ... I think that quite a few well-known pro-government figures have already walked along Navalny, I just don’t follow in detail.
        Значит относятся серьёзно... По моему Навальный - проект. Чей проект, пока не знаю, но люди стоят за ним серьезные и с деньгами. По этому и такой переполох. Вон, за Лимоновым по всей видимости никого нет, и в информационном поле Лимонова почти нет, а Навальному столько внимания. "Это ж-ж-ж - неспроста"
        1. CTEPX
          CTEPX 16 August 2013 17: 20 New
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          Quote: Normal
          . Look, there’s probably nobody behind Limonov

          Limonov is an old project)). Bulk - new)). The main thing is under any flag, but against Russia!
          When you were talking about serious people, I hope you didn’t mean Sterligov or Semigin?
          That's it - it's not even Hodor with Gorbach)).
    3. Vadivak
      Vadivak 16 August 2013 10: 45 New
      +3
      Quote: yan
      And Mr. Navalny is trying to occupy the niche of a political clown.


      Duc is already taken
    4. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 16 August 2013 10: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: yan
      Maybe it's time for the already revelatory campaign to begin all this liberal gang

      Why only this one? Let's be objective and expose all available gangs
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 16 August 2013 14: 11 New
        +3
        Quote: Yarosvet
        Let's be objective and expose all available gangs

        - уважаемый, давайте продолжим пояснения - с прошлого раз вы так ничего не поняли. Тут недавно, по моему с Серге68-68 определились, что слово "либерализм" и "либерал" уже превратили в некий ярлык, автоматически клеймящий чела позором, зачастую зря. Этим вы сейчас и воспользовались. Для РБК, целевая аудитория которого - буржуа различного калибра, слово "либерал имеет свою смысловую нагрузку, резко отличную от того смысла, что вкладываем в это слово мы. Так как вы этого момента не поняли, мне придется вам немного на пальцах пояснить - в нашем смысле, на нашем форуме "либерал" - это как раз навальный, как раз тот самый фейк-политик, просто использующий либеральные лозунги, просто спекулирующий ими, причем лозунги из либеральных выбрал самые привлекательные - "свобода, практически вседозволенность" и прочая, но умалчивая о том, что в либерализме настоящем так же есть положение о диктатуре закона и равенстве всех перед ним - а как же, ведь ведь хомячков отпугнет. Причем для нас важно, что бы этот фейк-политик своей фейк-политикой с либеральной риторикой преследовал интересы иностранного государства, обычно какой-нибудь западной страны. Навальный, новодворская, каспаров, немцов - типичные фейки, подпадают под все признаки, изложенные в САБЖе.
        В даноой статье говорится о Путине в терминах научного либерализма. Что такое научный либерализм, это вам к серге68-68, он тут главный либерал и вам все расскажет, поинтересуйтесь у него - вам не помешает. И как вы догадываетесь, статья в РБК выдержана в этом стиле, что бы пояснить целевой аудитории РБК - не враг он российским буржуа. "Вы же видите, по поступкам - он либерал!" - поясняет Песков.
        In fact, Putin is neither a liberal nor a communist, he does not undertake and did not undertake to represent the interests of only certain Russians, for example, only workers or only the bourgeois, he tries to represent the interests of all Russians as the President of all of Russia. How it turns out for him is up to you to evaluate, but when you stick a label you will not get an objective assessment.
        If you understood everything for a long time, but posted all this in the hope that the forum users are fools and will follow your label, then in this case you will have eight different conversations with a completely different tone. As you understand, such an attitude is unacceptable.
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 16 August 2013 14: 59 New
          -4
          Quote: aksakal
          let's continue explaining
          Давайте, но без шизофренических выводов, которые вы любите делать, и после того, как вы дадите ссылку на обоснование вашего утверждения о том, что Сталин "грабил речные корабли" - это чтобы мне больше не приходилось считать вас треплом.

          Этим вы сейчас и воспользовались. Для РБК, целевая аудитория которого - буржуа различного калибра, слово "либерал имеет свою смысловую нагрузку...
          Обратите внимание на оговорку Пескова о том, что он подразумевает под либералами тех, "кого так принято называть", то есть неолибералов являющихся целевой аудиторией РБК - я это понимаю, а вот вы, за неимением фактов, пытаетесь поймать меня на словах.

          "либерал" - это как раз навальный
          Bulk - the same neoliberal as Putin, using the same slogans.

          there is a provision on the dictatorship of the law and the equality of all before it
          Это и есть одно из главных отличий либерализма от неолиберализма - либеральная система на деле дает равенство закона для всех, неолиберальная работает по принципу "своим все - остальным закон" - посмотрите вокруг, что вы видите - либерализм?

          Bulk, Novodvorskaya, Kasparov, Germans - typical fakes
          Fakes working for Power are a horror story for most.

          it won't bother you
          Rather, you - I have no disagreement with him on this issue.

          he tries to represent the interests of all Russians as the President of all of Russia.
          Take an interest in the taxation system, I already told you about salaries, but it seems to be useless.

          you will not get an objective assessment
          My assessment is more objective than yours, if only because I do not base it on my own ability to drive to Turkey, then extrapolating this opportunity to everyone else.

          in the expectation that the forum users are fools
          What are the names of people who use the term without understanding its meaning?
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 16 August 2013 16: 15 New
            +1
            Quote: Yarosvet
            Давайте, но без шизофренических выводов, которые вы любите делать, и после того, как вы дадите ссылку на обоснование вашего утверждения о том, что Сталин "грабил речные корабли" - это чтобы мне больше не приходилось считать вас треплом

            - teach history, not ham. Rude and I can. Do you want to hear? Let's get started.
            Quote: Yarosvet
            I understand it

            “You understand a little, especially your understanding of the differences between liberals and neoliberals is laughable.” At least read the wiki and take off your Alcoholic T-shirt, dress well.
            Quote: Yarosvet
            Fakes working for Power are a horror story for most.

            - from the same opera - rumors circulate - the wind wears, the primitive believes, laughing
            Quote: Yarosvet
            I already told you about salaries, but it seems like no use.

            - about European? Blow there and get this salary for your happiness. Why the hell are you moaning here? About you - Just in case about you - you graze pigs, you are alone, I’m not going to talk to you.
            Quote: Yarosvet
            My assessment is more objective than yours, if only because I do not base it on my own ability to drive to Turkey, then extrapolating this opportunity to everyone else

            - The numbers? To drive back to Turkey costs 1500 per person, this is a little more than a monthly salary plus or minus office plankton, and if you are a professional, a real pro, and in any field, at least IT, at least a techie, at least a good welder, then there’s a salary more - and by the way, these are not Moscow salaries at all. in Moscow, other figures. If you do not have the opportunity to accumulate one monthly salary of plankton for a year to drive to Turkey, then you should not speak with a loser. For you, all Presidents will be bad, even Putin, at least not Putin. Start with yourself, the president of Russia has nothing to do with it.
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 16 August 2013 16: 27 New
              +3
              aksakal

              Rude and I can


              I know. I also know that your entire evidence base on any issue comes down to trying to move to the bazaar - apparently the past is affecting.

              Confirm your statement, or admit your wrong - you refuse, instead, again trying to move to the market, and then who are you?

              That's right - you yap. hi
          2. CTEPX
            CTEPX 16 August 2013 17: 29 New
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            Quote: Yarosvet
            the liberal system in fact gives equality of law to all

            That's the whole answer. You are a true liberal, and try to call them Putin)).
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 16 August 2013 18: 45 New
              +1
              Quote: ctepx
              That's the whole answer. You are a true liberal, and try to call them Putin)).

              Not real. )))

              Do you think that the liberal system does not give equality before the law? If so, then it did not occur to you that this is not really a liberal system, but something else - neoliberalism, for example?
  3. crambol
    crambol 16 August 2013 08: 49 New
    +2
    In the case of political hysteria, the best means is a good “public slap in the face”, therefore, our fakes are best treated by “Dr. Zhirinovsky,” who has a lot of practice in this area. Not everyone likes him, let alone what he is.

    But nobody liked castor and enema. Sooner or later, you will have to pay for the Amers 30 greens anyway!
    And Wolfovich does a good job, pulling into the light of all these cockroaches.
    1. alone
      alone 16 August 2013 15: 09 New
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      Wolfovich needs to answer for himself what he was doing at the gay club)))))))))))))))
  4. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 16 August 2013 08: 50 New
    +2
    Tired of clowning creeps from the opposition, getting salaries at the US embassy. Who will vote for him at all? When will there be an opposition of the government in which there will be no political corpses and clowns working for the State Department?
  5. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 16 August 2013 08: 50 New
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    Отличная статья, только цель узковата. Не только "феномен Навального", но и феномен российских выборов - это наш доморощенный фейк, политическое мошенничество.
    1. Botanologist
      Botanologist 16 August 2013 09: 21 New
      +4
      Quote: serge-68-68
      the phenomenon of the Russian elections is our homegrown fake, political fraud


      And what, in fact, is fraud? I’m a little professional in elections, I have a different opinion.
      1. serge-68-68
        serge-68-68 16 August 2013 09: 34 New
        +4
        Мошенничество - приобретение права на чужое имущество путем обмана или злоупотребления доверием. Я выборами занимался профессионально с конца 1999 года по 2011 г.г. на "командных" должностях. :) Честных и законных выборов не видел НИ РАЗУ. Обман, злоупотребление доверием, скрытое и открытое нарушение действующего избирательного законодательства. При этом, если на ранних этапах этого периода мошенничали на уровне кандидатов, то на поздних мошенничество сползло (поднялось) на уровень организаторов. :)
        1. Botanologist
          Botanologist 16 August 2013 10: 44 New
          +4
          Quote: serge-68-68
          Я выборами занимался профессионально с конца 1999 года по 2011 г.г. на "командных" должностях. :) Честных и законных выборов не видел НИ РАЗУ.


          А что вы считаете "честными и законными"? Писать на плакатах "против жуликов и воров" - это "честно" или нет? Или арестовывать тиражи КПРФ, которые изданы мимо избирательного фонда - это честно или нет?
          Or are you talking about something else?
          1. serge-68-68
            serge-68-68 16 August 2013 12: 07 New
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            Мда... Дожили. Понятия "честные" и "законные" необходимо дополнительно пояснять... :) Честные и законные выборы - это выборы, проходящие в соответствии с избирательным законодательством во всей его полноте. За небольшими и, в принципе, не сильно существенными нюансами, оно у нас - очень хорошее. И применяться оно должно ко всем. Потому что перед законом равны все. А у нас оно применяется через обычное дело.
            1. Botanologist
              Botanologist 16 August 2013 13: 50 New
              +5
              Quote: serge-68-68
              Дожили. Понятия "честные" и "законные" необходимо дополнительно пояснять...


              Any concepts must be clarified. Any normal argument begins with this.

              Quote: serge-68-68
              And it should apply to all


              Так и применяйте, если на самом "верху" занимаетесь выборами. Я снимал и самовыдвиженцев, и СР, и Яблоко, и единороссов с выборов. И не только одиночек, но и списки. На прошлой неделе, в частности, помахал ручкой одному единороссу, трижды депутату. Так что работайте, и все получится. Если вы этим занимаетесь, то прекрасно знаете - законодательство нужно ПРИМЕНЯТЬ, а не охать - ох, нечестно, ах, как нехорошо. Оно само не применяется, попробуйте нанять юриста. Говорят, помогает.
              1. serge-68-68
                serge-68-68 16 August 2013 15: 04 New
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                Do not believe what they say. Does not help.
                1. Botanologist
                  Botanologist 16 August 2013 19: 06 New
                  +1
                  Quote: serge-68-68
                  It does not help.


                  Minus is not from me, do not think bad drinks .
                  And about the lawyers - we sued EP, normal, and filmed, and restored their own.
  6. Sukharev
    Sukharev 16 August 2013 08: 51 New
    +2
    This is a very useful phenomenon. He concentrates a certain mass around himself. Then it will be very convenient to merge this whole bunch in one motion.
  7. Constantine
    Constantine 16 August 2013 08: 55 New
    +8
    Мне вчера предлагали взять газетенку "Навальный" на что получили мой ответ о том, что "Вор должен сидеть в тюрьме". Сначала агитатор резво подхватила и обрадовалась, но когда поняла о ком я, впала в небольшой ступор. Что-то кричала мне в след wassat Hamsters are such hamsters wassat I agree with the article.
    1. shark
      shark 16 August 2013 09: 42 New
      +5
      Agitators of Navalny are the same louts as their idol. Impudent, intrusive. A week ago they managed to drive off one of them only with a sincere promise of imminent physical reprisal.
      1. Constantine
        Constantine 16 August 2013 09: 54 New
        0
        Quote: shark
        Agitators of Navalny are the same louts as their idol. Impudent, intrusive. A week ago they managed to drive off one of them only with a sincere promise of imminent physical reprisal.


        That is yes. In my case, there were stickers handed out by a woman under 60. There are 2-3 of them dancing around a cube with streamers.
    2. avt
      avt 16 August 2013 09: 54 New
      +6
      Quote: Constantine
      Мне вчера предлагали взять газетенку "Навальный" на что получили мой ответ о том, что "Вор должен сидеть в тюрьме". Сначала агитатор резво подхватила и обрадовалась, но когда поняла о ком я, впала в небольшой ступор.

      good laughing I’m familiar like that, too, was kidding with various sectarians, Dianetics preachers, and Jehovah’s. With them, as soon as you knock them down from a worn-out record - immediately a stupor and hysteria, they cannot think of a fucker themselves, only how they put it in and repeat it.
      1. Constantine
        Constantine 16 August 2013 10: 18 New
        +2
        Quote: avt
        I’m familiar like that, too, was kidding with various sectarians, Dianetics preachers, and Jehovah’s. With them, as soon as you knock them down from a worn-out record - immediately a stupor and hysteria, they cannot think of a fucker themselves, only how they put it in and repeat it.


        New Bird Talker. Not different either in intelligence or quick wits. lol
      2. Ziksura
        Ziksura 16 August 2013 18: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: avt
        I’m familiar like that, too, was kidding with various sectarians, Dianetics preachers, and Jehovah’s.

        Вы не поверите, но вы чисто интуитивно уловили скрытую суть явления: проект "Навальный" скроен по лекалам тоталитарных сект.
        1. avt
          avt 16 August 2013 21: 26 New
          +2
          Quote: Ziksura
          Вы не поверите, но вы чисто интуитивно уловили скрытую суть явления: проект "Навальный" скроен по лекалам тоталитарных сект.

          Отчего же не поверю ,вполне себе очевидно ,вот как вам,всем кто сталкивался с подобными ребятами . Доводилось мне и с интегральными йогами ,ясновидящими ,дианетиками общаться ,со свидетелями иеговы не раз ,да еще пяток другой можно назвать ,включая разных катакомбных и не очень ,,православных".Много знакомых ребят у кого крыша в 90е поехала ,пытались приобщить laughing А по навальному - да ,четко просматривается алгоритм обработки подобный дианетикам ,даже больше американский ,проповеднический ,пасторский заплет . Но он все таки ученик плохой - напор есть ,а вот выдержки ,вот такого ,,душевного " участия и внимания к адептам ,как у амеров ,нет . Срывается он часто грубо ,ну не может он по американски ,,киип смайлинг" понимаш laughing Не держит улыбку при общении с адептами и показного внимания к простому человеку . Даже ЕБН в таких вопросах половчей был . Гордыня разум застилает ,прет как Тимошенко без оглядки .Та хоть ненадолго но до верха добралась ,да и бабла срубила не по детски ,а этот перегорит быстро ,пойдет жертвенным бараном ,поскольку из Ходорковского не очень получилось и Магнитского ,а этот в самый раз ,да и не жалко ,денег на него не много потрачено .Кстати забыл добавить ,оратор он никакой ,прямо скажем -херовый . Опять же из за гордыни ,вот Жирик - да ,он в 90е практически каждое воскресенье в Сокольниках тренировался на публике ,там тогда рынок был ,вот он вставал на возвышении с торца дома ,что напротив ,,Зенита" и в сторону рынка часок другой говорил ,вроде как в народ .Тренировался как оратор ,вот от того и реакция в споре и ,,гудок "по прежнему в порядке . laughing
          1. Ziksura
            Ziksura 16 August 2013 22: 06 New
            0
            Quote: avt
            But he is still a bad student

            Согласен.Как говорится :"Размах- на рубль,удар- на копейку." Давно понимал- у этого ни чего путного не получится. Уровень не тот.
            Quote: avt
            here Zhirik - yes

            Had a pleasure listening live. Oh his energy, yes ..... (there are many options).
          2. zvereok
            zvereok 17 August 2013 12: 09 New
            +1
            Quote: avt
            А по навальному - да ,четко просматривается алгоритм обработки подобный дианетикам ,даже больше американский ,проповеднический ,пасторский заплет . Но он все таки ученик плохой - напор есть ,а вот выдержки ,вот такого ,,душевного " участия и внимания к адептам ,как у амеров ,нет .


            А у ваших "Сектантов" есть результаты? Зашел сейчас на сайт http://rospil.info/results:

            The number of complaints (appeals) to the FAS - 178
            The number of complaints (appeals) deemed substantiated - 129

            Популярность Навального, в начале его "раскрутки", заключалась в том, что он пользовался законами нашей страны, обвиняя чиновников в воровстве. Приводил документы о нарушениях и фактах коррупции, писал заявы в прокуратуру, и приводил сканы отписок из прокуратуры, что естественно вызывало интерес и уважение. После того как, народ вышел на площадь. Власть решила, что, если не может управлять протестом, нужно его возглавить - начав реальные дела по борьбе с коррупцией, даже Сердюкова сняли, хотя и не знают, что с ним теперь делать. До этого напомню Медведев 4 года с коррупцией боролся, языком. Ну и успокоив общество делами, решили устранить возможного полит. конкурента... В общем Кооперотив "Озеро" и есть секта (ну типа массонской ложи).
    3. Russ69
      Russ69 16 August 2013 11: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: Constantine
      Мне вчера предлагали взять газетенку "Навальный" на что получили мой ответ о том, что "Вор должен сидеть в тюрьме".

      But isn't he a thief?

      1. Constantine
        Constantine 16 August 2013 11: 16 New
        +4
        Quote: Russ69
        But isn't he a thief?


        I know that, but the adherents of his campaign have not yet entered that they are the meat foundation for the affairs of Navalny.
  8. Oskar
    Oskar 16 August 2013 09: 01 New
    +8
    One must go to the opposition with at least a clear conscience. But of course it is alarming that Navalny is a thief, and Serdyukov is an effective manager. There is reason to think about the one-sidedness of justice ...
    1. Constantine
      Constantine 16 August 2013 09: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: Oskar
      Navalny is a thief, and Serdyukov is an effective manager.


      Не нужно загоняться. Идет следствие. Вот когда все точки будут расставлены над "i" и суды будут окончены, тогда и будем судить кто есть кто и почему. В данный момент, это словоблудие примерно такого же ранга, как база НАТО в Ульяновске. hi
    2. Botanologist
      Botanologist 16 August 2013 10: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: Oskar
      You must go to the opposition with at least a clear conscience


      With a clear conscience, you need to go free. Here he will serve - then to the opposition.
  9. PB1995
    PB1995 16 August 2013 09: 03 New
    +4
    our fakes are best treated by Dr. Zhirinovsky, who has extensive practice in this area
    Someone would have treated him.
  10. Vrungel78
    Vrungel78 16 August 2013 09: 10 New
    +2
    HOW EVERYBODY WAS BAD: BULKHEAD, PROKHOROV, LITTERS, BEARS, BEARS, ETC. Everyone sticks out just to be chosen. But in reality it turns out to be zilch. Only the muzzle becomes wider. Without irritation, I look only at four people: Putin, Shoigu, Belyakov, Khinshtein.
    1. shark
      shark 16 August 2013 09: 44 New
      +4
      And Rogozin? In my opinion, too, in the case of a man.
      What haunts Putin is Medvedev’s choice, what is it? A mistake or some tricky move, the true meaning of which we still do not understand?
      1. Vrungel78
        Vrungel78 16 August 2013 11: 12 New
        +2
        Quote: shark
        A mistake or some tricky move, the true meaning of which we still do not understand?

        And not a mistake or a tricky move. And just the chairman of the Board of Directors of Gazprom wanted in politics. Who pays, he orders the music.
      2. zvereok
        zvereok 17 August 2013 20: 13 New
        +1
        Quote: shark
        And Rogozin? In my opinion, too, in the case of a man.
        What haunts Putin is Medvedev’s choice, what is it? A mistake or some tricky move, the true meaning of which we still do not understand?


        Медведев, давнишний друган Путина,еще при Собчаке вместе работали, а Собчак тот еще был "Эффективный менеджер". Так, что Путин знает Медведева как облупленного, потому и поставил.
  11. kontrol
    kontrol 16 August 2013 09: 12 New
    +4
    bulk provocateur - behind him the State Department roof otherwise he would have been devoured
  12. stpv1
    stpv1 16 August 2013 09: 18 New
    -12
    The article is a fat minus, the people need a hero who can clear the Augean stables of our country, where everything turned upside down, the wrong has become right, thieves and mediocrity are in charge everywhere, the wealth of the motherland is sold for petrodollars and stored abroad, the country's population is dying, medicine and education are ruined, our pensioners live in poverty. And our bureaucrats are all in gold. Look at Serdyukov and his team, they are free.
    Bulk done, he wants to change something. I believe in him, but I am afraid that our people will once again be deceived, but I do not want to believe today's rulers, I think that their policy will lead Russia to death
    1. Standard Oil
      Standard Oil 16 August 2013 09: 24 New
      +8
      Excuse me, what floor are you working on at the American embassy?
    2. klimpopov
      klimpopov 16 August 2013 09: 30 New
      12
      Prosralipolymers !!!!!
    3. shark
      shark 16 August 2013 09: 49 New
      11
      Navalny is a corrupt State Department girl. Look with whom he stands on the same platform: Nemtsov, Kasyanov, Ryzhkov. Do they also want to change something?
      Open your eyes and ears, getting out of your head what you are being pushed into. Russia is slowly but surely developing. Plants are being built, enterprises are opening. Schools. Yes, a lot of things ... Another question is that there is no one to work at the plants. Everyone went to the managers .. Today it’s prestigious to be a hamster.
      1. Vrungel78
        Vrungel78 16 August 2013 11: 15 New
        +8
        Well, yes. Tell me who your friend is and I will say who you are. A-Nemtsov, Kasyanov, Ryzhkov have already shown themselves in all their glory.
    4. Constantine
      Constantine 16 August 2013 11: 19 New
      +2
      Quote: stpv1
      The article is a fat minus, the people need a hero who can clear the Augean stables of our country, where everything turned upside down, the wrong has become right, thieves and mediocrity are in charge everywhere, the wealth of the motherland is sold for petrodollars and stored abroad, the country's population is dying, medicine and education are ruined, our pensioners live in poverty. And our bureaucrats are all in gold. Look at Serdyukov and his team, they are free.
      Bulk done, he wants to change something. I believe in him, but I am afraid that our people will once again be deceived, but I do not want to believe today's rulers, I think that their policy will lead Russia to death


      One of the 4 hamsters noted in the article is Detected wassat
    5. skullcap
      skullcap 16 August 2013 13: 31 New
      +3
      Quote: stpv1
      people need a hero who can clear the Augean stables of our country, where everything is turned upside down

      You, apparently (do not consider it a grievance), young man. Otherwise they would have known that such a hero in our recent history already had a surname - Edtsin.
      And Navalny is the current remake of that project.
      The only difference is that the Yeltsin project was implemented as a fighter against privileges, and the bulk project goes like a fighter against corruption. And the developers and owners of the project are the same - in Washington.
      Of course, the situation has changed in 20 years. At the end of 80's, Gorbachev's USSR in the West, without embarrassment, was openly called the “land of unafraid idiots”. It is now accepted to say that the perpetrators of the disaster are foreign countries and our special services along with the party elite, and the people are just their victims. However, to be objective, it must be admitted that a smaller part of the population opposed restructuring, who constantly risked getting a face for not admiring the hero along with the advanced and conscious vanguard, but trying to explain that Yeltsin was actually an anti-hero, which will lead the country to disaster and bloody slaughter.
      As we now know from history, the red-brown retrogrades were right all the same, but the flaming rebuilders won. Why are we still hiccups?
      Today, many of our people are no longer scared. But did everyone become cured? Therefore, I would not blame myself for saying that the “bulk project” was doomed in advance. Since it is necessary to take into account that democratic fighters of the information war do not stand still, they constantly hone their skills, prepare new traps, and most importantly - remain the same: it does not matter how they vote, it is important how they count.
      And the question arises: who will count? If you scrutinize closely, it will turn out that there are, for the most part, all the same perestroika and reformers as before. So the chances are real that the result will be given to the one that is needed by progressive humanity, and not to our people.
      So I don’t recommend flirting with the bulk project, so as not to repeat the results of the Yeltsin project.
  13. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 16 August 2013 09: 24 New
    0
    Tired of your Navalny, you might think that there’s nothing more to write about, an article minus a huge
    1. polly
      polly 16 August 2013 09: 52 New
      +5
      The article describes Navalny perfectly. I used to perceive it as somehow unreal ... something flat, like a puppet. Now everything has fallen into place: fake is a suitable word for him, especially from the language of its owners! Kamenev is a plus.
  14. fartfraer
    fartfraer 16 August 2013 09: 35 New
    +3
    зря он в политику полез.продолжал бы свой "рос.пил" и цены б ему не было.а так и себя дискредитирует и все движение,которое борется с зажравшимися чиновниками и пр.ворьем
    1. Constantine
      Constantine 16 August 2013 11: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: fartfraer
      зря он в политику полез.продолжал бы свой "рос.пил" и цены б ему не было.а так и себя дискредитирует и все движение,которое борется с зажравшимися чиновниками и пр.ворьем


      Rospil is a tool to combat power + a tool to combat various companies. Any shadow, regardless of whether it is true or false, drops the company's shares and its prestige, and with information support Piled up such an effect is quite achievable. As the archive of his mail showed, his revelations were a commonplace economic order. hi

      Quote: fartfraer
      in vain he climbed into politics


      In vain he was born in this country. wink
      1. fartfraer
        fartfraer 16 August 2013 11: 36 New
        +1
        "Роспил есть инструмент борьбы с властью "-власть далеко не безгрешна(не только в РФ,в любой стране мира)но наглеть власти тоже нельзя давать.Навального не привлекли за клевету(замечу),его привлекли по другой статье.почему?при чем никто не только через суд,но даже и через СМИ не счел нужным опровергнуть его "разоблачения"(хотя можно и без кавычек наверное). странно именно это. странно что его называют агентом госдепа,но не судят за измену.агентов госдепа в РФ запрещено судить или нам просто врут?
        at the end of the comment I’ll clarify my opinion that the idea of ​​Rospril is correct and should be developed. Not as a means of combating companies or authorities, but as a means of combating corruption, etc. And information from Rospil should receive an official assessment of the prosecutor’s office (first of all). Well, and I repeat again, in vain Navalny climbed into politics.
        1. Constantine
          Constantine 16 August 2013 11: 47 New
          -2
          Quote: fartfraer
          Bulk not attracted for defamation


          In vain. Very vain. In the aggregate of 100 years would be enough.

          Quote: fartfraer
          it is strange that he is called an agent of the State Department, but they are not judged for treason. State Department agents in the Russian Federation are forbidden to judge or are they just lying to us?


          The system is riddled with these agents. Navalny is a public agent, but far from the most powerful and influential of them.

          Quote: fartfraer
          the idea of ​​rospil is true and needs to be developed. not as a means of combating companies or authorities, but as a means of combating corruption, etc. and information from rospil should receive an official assessment of the prosecutor's office (first of all).


          The idea is true, but it must be implemented by another team. A team that is absolutely not connected with Navalny and his gang.
          1. fartfraer
            fartfraer 16 August 2013 12: 00 New
            +1
            "Идея верна, но реализовываться она должна другой командой."-тут даже не спорю,более того скажу-это вообще функции государства.но к сожалению иногда оно их не выполняет почему-то.
            "Система пронизана этими агентами насквозь"-и тут не спорю.для меня главный вопрос не возглавляет ли эту систему такой же агент.
            "Зря. Очень зря"-а вот туд двумя руками "за"!если это клевета,то надо садить (именно по клевете),а если нет,то садить надо тех,о ком он говорил.
            1. Constantine
              Constantine 16 August 2013 12: 12 New
              -1
              Quote: fartfraer
              I don’t even argue here, moreover I’ll say that this is generally the function of the state. But unfortunately sometimes it does not fulfill them for some reason.


              The team should be as neutral as possible. On state grants - yes, but this should not be done by officials / security officials. Otherwise, it will not break the chain. sad

              Quote: fartfraer
              and I don’t argue here. For me, the main question is whether the same agent is heading this system.


              If about the most important, then he is an agent of his state, perhaps. Otherwise, we would now observe a completely different situation and believe me, we would now not have time for discussions on the Internet wink
  15. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 16 August 2013 09: 36 New
    +6
    Another 2 weeks and the bulk project will be closed for 4 years. (will be released before the next election)
    1. yan
      yan 16 August 2013 13: 35 New
      +1
      проект "Провальный Навальный"
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  16. PB1995
    PB1995 16 August 2013 09: 44 New
    0
    but his statement that political scientists need to be fed to the beasts is unacceptable and outrageous ... one political scientist said
    Because he is a political scientist, therefore, it is unacceptable and outrageous.

    insults, ridicule, cynical jokes with implication
    Интересно, а фраза депутата: "Чем мы обязаны этим ветеранам? Тем, что их не добили?" - это не оскорбление? Напоминает пословицу: "В чужом глазу соринку видим, в своём бревна не замечаем".

    corruption charges are in fashion today, but that’s not the point
    laughing Author, don’t just say that we don’t have corruption! That Serdyukov is a crystal-clear person. That Zheleznyak children do not study abroad.

    You can find fault with any Sobyanin, Putin and even the Pope, find some kind of “compromising evidence” - and let them sort it out ... In general, this is nothing new - the usual type of demagogue, in all its disgusting splendor
    Well, the author definitely has no complaints about these comrades.

    "Human Rights Policy"

    these are fakes that hide the other, real goals of their organizers: interference in the internal affairs of foreign states for selfish purposes
    Если кто-то считает, что права человека защищать не надо, мне искренне жаль этих людей и меня, честно говоря, немного бесит, когда кто-то говорит, что "вот, опять какие-то права человека, ещё какая-то лабуда". Но ведь если этих же людей обсчитают в магазине, потребуют деньги в больнице, они же потом будут возмущаться: "Как!? Да я же имею право, допустим, на бесплатную медицину, на то, чтоб мне вернули!" Или как? "Ну, взяли деньги - так взяли, что уж там".


    “Foreign financing”, dirty technologies from “independent” “Bulk Brothers”
    Странно, почему всё это всплыло именно во время предвыборной кампании? Те же обвинения в коррупции - это же тоже грязные технологии. Интересная позиция автора: одним можно обвинять кого-то в коррупции, другим нельзя. Я, конечно, догадываюсь, почему одним можно, но статья пока напоминает те же "разоблачительные" передачи типа "Анатомии протеста" или как их там... не знаю, телевизор не смотрю. Тоже, всё смешать в одну кучу, приговаривая: "Ну а чо, все схавают ещё и добавки попросят, ага laughing "

    and now summer is in Russia
    laughing Thanks, we know!
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer 16 August 2013 09: 53 New
      +1
      we are constantly told that they are (bulk) foreign agents. So can someone explain the situation, but where does the FSB and other authorized structures look? Or are foreign agents allowed to work openly with us, or we are told that they are agents. volume and in another case it turns out badly
      1. Constantine
        Constantine 16 August 2013 11: 26 New
        0
        Quote: fartfraer
        we are constantly told that they are (bulk) foreign agents. So can someone explain the situation, but where does the FSB and other authorized structures look? Or are foreign agents allowed to work openly with us, or we are told that they are agents. volume and in another case it turns out badly


        According to the results of the defeat of the USSR / Russia in the Cold War, we were redrawn the entire system so that its dismantling in one go will lead to collapse, chaos and anarchy comparable to the 90s. For this reason, the dismantling of the system is consistent and accurate. Do not forget that in the government and other structures there are still many who are kept on the hook by compromising materials / money / property abroad and other things, forcing, at the critical moment, in fear of loss / disclosure, to execute someone else's will and take anti-state steps. Not everything is as simple as they say in books wink
        1. fartfraer
          fartfraer 16 August 2013 11: 42 New
          +2
          и кто ведет этот "демонтаж"?и как человек,"демонтирующий" систему попал в верхние эшелоны этой системы?какой "крючок" есть на него?Де Голь готовил реформу(судебную) пол-года и осуществил ее за одни сутки.мы 13 лет "демонтируем" и пока(на примере Томска) демонтировали только промышленность.Томск конечно не вся Россия,но предприятия у нас были весьма значимые(для оборонки в том числе) во времена СССР.осталось только узнать где в это время построили подшипниковый или электродвигательный завод(например).вы не подскажите?
          1. Constantine
            Constantine 16 August 2013 12: 23 New
            +2
            Quote: fartfraer
            и кто ведет этот "демонтаж"?и как человек,"демонтирующий" систему попал в верхние эшелоны этой системы?какой "крючок" есть на него?


            T.N. The elite is divided into 2 parts. About Russian and about Western. The pro-western is dismantled about the Russian one with the support of the first person in the state.

            Quote: fartfraer
            мы 13 лет "демонтируем" и пока(на примере Томска) демонтировали только промышленность.


            За 13 лет мы избавились от зависимости в принятии решений перед внешними кредиторами, оторвали Олигархию от руля страны, стали 5ой экономикой мира и первой экономикой Европы. Если вы не в курсе, то доля промышленности в ВВП России, на данный момент, выше доли добывающей. Как бы это ни выглядело, но это факт. Про демонтаж - предлагаю посетить российские области-промзоны вроде Калуги, например. Там можно наглядно посмотреть на "демонтаж промышленности". Мой вам совет. Всегда и везде ставьте авторитет истины выше, чем истина авторитетов и картинка происходящего будет более прозрачна и понятна. wink hi


            Quote: fartfraer
            Tomsk, of course, is not the whole of Russia, but the enterprises we had were very significant (including for defense) during the USSR. All that remained was to find out where at that time a bearing or electric motor plant was built (for example). Can you tell me?


            Tomsk is very far advanced in terms of technology. If you don’t know, then you can watch the RT movie in the application. As for the factories, now I am not ready to look for where and what is built. Bearings for special. technicians did in Russia on the basis of an alloy from the factory of my friend. I can ask at a meeting where exactly. As far as electric motors are concerned, I can say with confidence that there is such a production because Russian Railways operates new domestic electric locomotives. If there was enough time and desire, I would find and show. In general, following my advice, you need to get the most reliable information yourself, and not take my words on faith. This will be the right move hi
        2. dmit-xnumx
          dmit-xnumx 16 August 2013 11: 57 New
          +2
          Хорошо сказано - примите "плюс"!
      2. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 16 August 2013 15: 24 New
        +2
        Quote: fartfraer
        and where does the FSB and other authorized structures look? Or are foreign agents allowed to work openly with us, or we are told that they are agents. And in either case it’s not good
    2. RussianRu
      RussianRu 16 August 2013 10: 52 New
      +5
      .........Я, конечно, догадываюсь, почему одним можно, но статья пока напоминает те же "разоблачительные" передачи типа "Анатомии протеста" или как их там... не знаю, телевизор не смотрю........

      You are interesting troll. You don’t watch TV, but you know the names of the programs. You don’t watch TV, but you judge that these programs are not entirely true. I’m silent about the rest of your comments. You insert a quote about foreign states, and you write about human rights. Or do you really believe that a foreign state cares about your rights? BALAMUT.
      1. PB1995
        PB1995 16 August 2013 11: 28 New
        -7
        You don’t watch TV, but you know the names of the programs
        Всё легко и просто: телевизор смотрят мои родители, я сижу в соседней комнате и слышу все эти "вот этот плохой, вот этот - предатель" и ещё что-то в этом духе. Бывает, в Интернете прочитаю о том, что по такому-то каналу что-то "разоблачающее" показали. Тот же Киселёв с "Вестей недели" то Путина хвалит (когда ему стукнуло 60 лет, Д.К. 15 минут распинался, почему при Путине жить стало лучше, жить стало веселее), то оппозицию клеймит позором. И, к сожалению, ему верят. И Киселёв ещё называет себя "журналистом". Фуфло это, а не журналист.

        You insert a quote about foreign states, and you write about human rights. Or do you really believe that a foreign state cares about your rights?
        Я не люблю, когда, пользуясь то ли неграмотностью, то ли доверчивостью людей, начинают смешивать одно с другим. Правозащитная деятельность либерализм и демократия благодаря таким "писакам" стало синонимами слова "плохо".
        For your information:
        Liberalism - a philosophical and socio-political movement, proclaiming inviolability of human rights and individual freedomsadvocating for minimizing government interference in the life of citizens.
        Liberalism proclaims the rights and freedoms of each person as the supreme value and establishes them as the legal basis of social and economic order. Moreover, the ability of the state and the church to influence the life of society is limited by the constitution. The most important freedoms in liberalism are freedom to speak out publicly, freedom to choose a religion, freedom to choose representatives in fair and free elections. In economic terms, the principles of liberalism are the inviolability of private property, freedom of trade and business. In legal terms, the principles of liberalism are the rule of law over the will of rulers and the equality of all citizens before the law, regardless of their wealth, position and influence.
        Демократия - с латинского "народовластие" - тут и говорить нечего.
        1. RussianRu
          RussianRu 16 August 2013 12: 14 New
          +3
          Well, sit in the next room. Analyze what you hear.))

          Liberalism is good only in words. In fact, this liberalism is worse than Nazism or dictatorship. Hypocrisy is the true essence of liberalism. HYPOCRISY. Tell me, how does liberalism justify violence?
          Liberalism calls for tolerance, but on the part of the liberals, I do not notice this relation to the traditions, creed or foundations of a person (nationality). Just smiles. So there is no need here to describe the superficial magnificence of liberalism.
          1. PB1995
            PB1995 16 August 2013 12: 42 New
            -4
            Tell me, how does liberalism justify violence?
            He does not accept him, as far as I know.

            to traditions, creed or foundations of a person (nationality)
            Well, this is conservatism, another ideology, the antipode of liberalism. In general, liberalism implies that you want to practice what kind of religion. Though you don’t confess anything at all and no one will say a word against you.

            Well, sit
            А мы с Вами на "ты", вроде, не переходили.
            1. RussianRu
              RussianRu 16 August 2013 13: 31 New
              +1
              Of course he does not accept it, but violence according to Liberian concepts can be used, either with permission, or (figuratively speaking) give change, or remember some kind of insult. In these cases, liberalism justifies violence. If you advocate liberalism you must know this. Or are you silent specifically?

              (tradition) The key word is tolerance and not conservatism. There is no need to leave the topic.

              Ты-же либерал. А чаго самое главное в либерализме? Вот, так вот я индивидум, мне удобней обращаться на "ТЫ" и нечего мне тут указывать как обращаться к оппонету. Терпимость где?)))))))))
    3. Vrungel78
      Vrungel78 16 August 2013 11: 17 New
      +1
      Plus for the summer))))
    4. Vrungel78
      Vrungel78 16 August 2013 11: 32 New
      +2
      The opposition began to bark loudly during the reign of Medvedev. These are his liberal experiences.
  17. artist-mamluk
    artist-mamluk 16 August 2013 09: 56 New
    0
    На кой о нем вообще говорить и писать. Чем меньше о этом "товарище" знают в России, тем меньше от него вреда для самой России
  18. LaGlobal
    LaGlobal 16 August 2013 09: 56 New
    +4
    All people are not sinless, therefore, he will always find something to ponder over. To any sobyanin, Putin


    - фамилии "Собянин" и "Путин" - пишутся с БОЛЬШОЙ буквы!

    Навального, как политика не воспринимаю! Вести диалог - не умеет, любит переходить на личности. А что для страны он для Москвы сделать сможет? - Ровным делом ничего. В его предвыборных речах, кроме оскорблений, и пытаться "разоблачить" кого-то ничего нет.
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer 16 August 2013 10: 01 New
      +3
      any last name is capitalized, for that matter.
      1. PB1995
        PB1995 16 August 2013 10: 04 New
        -3
        Да, но если о человеке отзываются негативно, то фамилию пишут во множественном числе и с маленькой буквы. А если позитивно, то с большой. Учитывая тон статьи, немного странно, что написано "собянин и "путин"
  19. PB1995
    PB1995 16 August 2013 10: 02 New
    -4
    Quote: fartfraer
    we are constantly told that they are (bulk) foreign agents. So can someone explain the situation, but where does the FSB and other authorized structures look? Or are foreign agents allowed to work openly with us, or we are told that they are agents. volume and in another case it turns out badly
    Моё личное мнение: учитывая то, что слова "объективность" и "беспристрастность" наши журналисты (особенно вещающие с федеральных каналов) никогда не слышали, то, конечно, властям будет выгодно то, что о том же Навальном или Немцове или ещё о ком-нибудь нам говорят именно в негативном свете. Тому есть несколько причин:
    1. The people are distracted from the problems that the government sometimes creates and does not burn with the desire to solve.
    2. Создаётся образ "врага", тем более, как говорится "Враг моего врага - мой друг". То есть посредством такой "промывки мозгов" (по другому и не скажешь) власти привлекают людей на свою сторону. Но так как всё это делается довольно топорно и смешно, и при том, что Интернет по популярности уже наступает на пятки телевидению, то порой получается обратный эффект.
    1. RussianRu
      RussianRu 16 August 2013 10: 37 New
      +4
      1) Nobody distracts people from bulk problems. On the contrary, he himself attracts the attention of the people by his provocative speeches. The last example with Yandex money. The authorities need him to take part in the elections, but in principle, a chair will not be necessary for the bulk, so he throws out all sorts of tricks to get him off the election. They’ll also remove the scandal for you, which he is striving for.
      2) The Internet has long surpassed television in popularity. Thanks to the fact that he took away bread from the grannies. The Internet is now a great hotbed of gossip.
      3) Power at the expense of bulk does not attract people to its side, do not flatter yourself. The people themselves see who is who.
  20. Seraph
    Seraph 16 August 2013 10: 08 New
    +5
    Правильная статья. Вкупе со вчерашней статьёй "про дельфинов и анчоусов" метко описывает вселенский балаган, случившийся со всем миром, особенно либеральной его частью, у нас на глазах. Пара десятилетий прошло со времен СССР, а людей как подменили - "были люди как люди..." (Брат-2)
    Время пришло, когда каждый должен определиться: остаться человеком или превратиться в животное. "Блюдите, како опасно ходите"
  21. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 16 August 2013 10: 11 New
    +3
    I agree with the article.

    PS
    Vladimir Vladimirovich seems to be using trial and error, finally a good team of advisers has formed, judging by the events of the current year.
    1. PB1995
      PB1995 16 August 2013 10: 34 New
      -2
      judging by the events of the current year
      I'm shy to ask which one?
  22. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 16 August 2013 10: 13 New
    +4
    Навальный сам и говорит, что у него нет цели победить. Негласно он таким образом собирает в столице "протестный электорат" вокруг своей фигуры, который он в критический момент поведёт... а вот куда и на кого поведёт, это уже вопрос интересный.


  23. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 16 August 2013 10: 28 New
    +6
    I would rephrase Nakhalny’s election motto, oh excuse Navalny from Change Russia to Change Russia, this suits him better.
  24. angolaforever
    angolaforever 16 August 2013 10: 41 New
    +3
    Quote: Constantine
    Quote: Oskar
    Navalny is a thief, and Serdyukov is an effective manager.


    Не нужно загоняться. Идет следствие. Вот когда все точки будут расставлены над "i" и суды будут окончены, тогда и будем судить кто есть кто и почему. В данный момент, это словоблудие примерно такого же ранга, как база НАТО в Ульяновске. hi

    Do you even believe in yourself or a cyber warrior of special services? Although the president pursues an effective foreign policy, an almighty clan is evident within the country. Serdyukov would have sat for a long time if he had not had the opportunity to drag the top with him in case of landing.
    1. Constantine
      Constantine 16 August 2013 12: 38 New
      -2
      Quote: angolaforever
      Do you even believe in yourself or a cyber warrior of special services? Although the president pursues an effective foreign policy, an almighty clan is evident within the country. Serdyukov would have sat for a long time if he had not had the opportunity to drag the top with him in case of landing.


      The top is not homogeneous. I believe in myself.
  25. Djubal
    Djubal 16 August 2013 10: 43 New
    +6
    Наша оппозиция такая оппозитная, не налюбуешься! Но большое ей спасибо,ТАКАЯ оппозиция лучшая опора для существующей власти и соответственно стабильности государства. Окажись в оппозиции толковый человек, в стране могли бы опять наступить "интересные времена" будь они неладны. Но места в оппозиционных лагерях заняты откровенными клоунами, ещё и рыльце в пушку. По сему гложет мыслишка, может оппозиция в данном виде это правительственный проект? Если нет, то везение невероятное, если да,то просто гениальный ход.
  26. crambol
    crambol 16 August 2013 10: 44 New
    +2
    Quote: Kibalchish
    Bulk himself says that he has no goal to win.

    His goal is to catch up with the stench as much as possible.
  27. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 16 August 2013 10: 51 New
    +2
    Any psychologist will tell you that persuading "to stop the tantrum" will never lead to anything, and the best "cure" in this case is an ordinary slap in the face.
    В данном случае лучшее лекарство - лесоповал. Каким бы мазохистом не был этот "фейк", а этого лекарства ему хватит. Лет пять-десять лечения с конфискацией, с принудительным запретом приема на госслужбу, занимания должностей, связанных с управлением и/или общественной работой (включая образование) и появления в СМИ. Нечего воду мутить. Ограничений по приему на работу НА РАБОЧИЕ специальности не создавать.
    После последовательного такого "лечения" КАЖДОГО возникающего последующего "фейка", желающие на эту роль быстро переведутся.
    Rashusolivanie about the fact that IT does not have a political / economic program and IT is afraid to sit in the power chair - baby talk. He will sit still, will steal as soon as the position allows (the criminal case has shown this) and will not turn red. It will also stink all over the country. THERE are no moral limitations in principle. And he won’t have to think. For him, uncles from abroad will think and send decisions by a list. You understand what solutions.
  28. xomaNN
    xomaNN 16 August 2013 10: 51 New
    +1
    Some new face of Appasia should have appeared. Spent political material such as Kasparov, Nemtsov, Kasyanov and so on. 10% of sponsors' money was no longer worth it. Do u have enough. during the election campaign of the Moscow mayor, the power of the mind and quick wits to give everyone the opportunity to be convinced of the idle talk and insolvency of bulk?
  29. Combitor
    Combitor 16 August 2013 10: 56 New
    -5
    Странно, что на страницах "Военного обозрения" еще не "отобразилась" новость дня. Для охраны "дорогого президентского тела" будет создаваться специальное подразделение, своего рода личная гвардия Путина. Он даже подпишет для этого соответствующий указ.Ему не впервой подменять Основной Закон страны своими указами. Эту новость опубликовали многие (далеко не "желтые") издания. Путину мало армии, флота, ФСБ,ФСО,полиции? Нужны еще личные спецназовцы. Кого же фюрер так испугался? Уж не Навального ли? Или боится российского народа?
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 16 August 2013 11: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: Kombitor
      He will even sign a corresponding decree for this.

      When he signs and most importantly what he signs, then we'll talk ...
    2. Aristarch
      Aristarch 16 August 2013 12: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: Kombitor
      (далеко не "желтые") издания.

      Yes, and you yourself are far from a patriot)))
    3. polly
      polly 16 August 2013 12: 46 New
      +1
      Новость с "бородой" : уж в который раз распространяется с разными временными промежутками... smile
    4. LaGlobal
      LaGlobal 16 August 2013 13: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: Kombitor
      Для охраны "дорогого президентского тела" будет создаваться специальное подразделение, своего рода личная гвардия Путина.


      Do you think that our DEAR president should not be properly guarded ?????
      Then, my friend, you are not quite smart!

      And for that matter, the profession “president of the RUSSIAN FEDERATION” is one of the most dangerous in the country, and even in the world. In any case, there are few specialists who have tried on 11 times during the 12 years of work - like Putin. The danger of the presidency in Russia is even confirmed by US experts: they consider Putin to be target No. 2 in the list of world leaders.
      1. Normal
        Normal 16 August 2013 19: 15 New
        0
        Quote: LaGlobal
        profession "president of the RUSSIAN FEDERATION"

        This is not a profession, not a title or even a hobby))) This is a MUST. That is, the person occupying it MUST. But the GDP is so great that it owes nothing to anyone, especially to some people of the Russian Federation.
        Quote: LaGlobal
        one of the most dangerous in the country


        "...Хошь кого, хошь кого пойди спроси.
        How hard it is to be a ruler.
        Vaughn, the main shepherd in Russia.
        And the one with the bodyguard.
        And I'll wave the glass.
        And look, there is no more fear!
        And I’ll go for a walk.
        Yes, without body armor!
        Эх раз, да еще раз, да еще много-много раз...."

        V. Tretyakov
        1. Ziksura
          Ziksura 16 August 2013 19: 44 New
          0
          Quote: Normal
          And I’ll go for a walk.
          Yes, without body armor!

          Вы вообще нормальный? То вы мне погранцу трубившему в Кавказском особом "втираете" про боеготовность с заблаговременным объявлением за две недели и ни как иначе, теперь вот фактически берете под сомнение необходимость охраны первых лиц.... Завтра, что будет? "Срывай погоны,айда к Власову!!!"????? Речь идет только о начале подготовки офицеров для спецназа ФСО на базе Рязанского училища ВДВ. Все создано еще в СССР. Пожонглировали немного понятиями и "здрасте".....
          1. Normal
            Normal 16 August 2013 20: 58 New
            0
            Quote: Ziksura
            Are you normal?

            One more ... Well, for the next of the most gifted, I explain in detail the last time.
            1. I am Normal , and there is help laughing
            2. My nickname is to some extent a provocation that reveals people of a certain mental state. That is, if a person is surprised, indignant, or in any other way offended that someone considers himself normal, then this person cannot be considered normal. To consider oneself normal is normal. Considering an opponent is not normal, or at least publicly wondering if he is normal, this is at least not cultural, but as a maximum a sign of the abnormality of the interested person.
            Usually, I simply ignore such instances, although there are exceptions.
            I pay so much attention to you because even in this row you stand out not for the better. It's not about the attitude towards me, but about the semantic load of your posts.
            Пишите вы путанно и с надрывом, я бы даже сказал "наезжаете", часто не замечаете, что сами себе противоречите. Обилие восклицательных и вопросительных знаков указывает на ваше не вполне "нормальное" состояние. Если такое состояние для вас нормально, то как вас охарактеризовать?
            Your post ending with words
            I am sure that you will not read it, well, God be with him ....
            I read it. In general, from the controversy with your participation on that topic, I realized that first you write, sorry, outright stupidity:
            Хотите как в армии??? Это примерно так: в 3 часа ночи неожиданный подъем по тревоге и бегом (буквально) на работу и там ударными темпами 150% выработки,не справился- десять смен вне очереди;любой "косяк"- от 1й до 10ти смен вне очереди,неподчинение- трибунал и дисциплинарная бригада;
            then you try to justify and correct these nonsense:
            А для тех , кто не понял: нельзя проецировать методы армии на гражданскую жизнь.Важна целостность понятий. Если хочешь, чтобы у какой либо части гражданского общества была военная организационная структура, то готовьтесь сами жить в режиме :" в 3 часа ночи неожиданный подъем по тревоге и бегом (буквально) на работу и там ударными темпами 150% выработки,не справился- десять смен вне очереди;любой "косяк"- от 1й до 10ти смен вне очереди,неподчинение- трибунал и дисциплинарная бригада
            То-есть сами что-то придумываете, потом приписываете свои мысли оппонентам и сами же им возражаете. Это называется демагогия, если это осознанно. Или это не способность контролировать "эскадрон своих мыслей шальных", а это уже симптом.
            This quote is very characteristic and, as it seems to me, characterizes your way of communication
            Where did you see propaganda of something here ????? !!!!!! It was a counter propaganda demagogic insanity. Attempts to mix the military and civilian systems of society, acidic with fresh, stove with refrigerator (underline as necessary)

            From the beginning, you fantasize, and then vote heartily about the counter-propaganda of demagogic insanity, which you yourself are doing.
            1. Ziksura
              Ziksura 16 August 2013 21: 36 New
              -2
              Quote: Normal
              Пишите вы путанно и с надрывом, я бы даже сказал "наезжаете", часто не замечаете, что сами себе противоречите.

              I don’t contradict myself either how much, then or now ... Last time, I caricatured depicted what would happen if, then what was planned (I’m not noticing you, why you still got involved in that argument for me) to realize. And I was very surprised that my cartoon began to be interpreted by you as an image of my thoughts. Lack of sense of humor .... Oh well, I don’t want to go down to your level, a little word against the diagnosis right away. In short, the flip is complete, from here there is doubt about the reliability of the certificate.
              Quote: Normal
              if there is a person who is surprised, indignant, or in any other way hurt that someone considers himself normal, then this person cannot be considered normal.
              Yes, call yourself at least supergineal with a diploma and a license laughing Мы здесь с вами не медицинском форуме. Сайт называется "Военное обозрение". И меня в данном контексте возмущает ваша "нормальность" в вопросах фактического отрицания:
              1. The existence of troops of constant combat readiness.
              2. Ensuring the safety of the supreme commander.

              And nothing more. Do not fantasize too much. And you have nothing to object to, what is written is written. I will notice you.

              Quote: Normal
              My nickname is to some extent a provocation that reveals people of a certain mental state.

              You seem like a provocateur like a cartoonist. With the difference that I initially do not write down all those who disagree with me in some idiots.
              1. Normal
                Normal 16 August 2013 23: 01 New
                +2
                Quote: Ziksura
                I’m not contradicting myself for how much, then or now

                Constantly, then and now. The rest of the text is solid demagogy. Constant distortion and denial of what was just said by himself and again a return to what was originally said.
                Quote: Ziksura
                1. The existence of troops of constant combat readiness.

                Попытка подменить требование ответственности президента за назначенных им чиновников карикатурой, подмена карикатурой реальной боеготовности и подмена боеготовности войск ( 104 ПДД ВДВ дислоцированная в КЗакВО была в составе войск "постоянной боеготовности"?) спецификой пограничной службы это чувство юмора такое?

                Quote: Ziksura
                (I’ll not note by you why you got involved in that dispute for me there is still a question)

                I note that the comments are publicly available and publicly available, therefore if you speak out, then no one is obligated to ask you for permission to comment on your statement.
                Замечу что вы сами "ввязались в спор" и комментировали посты посетителя под ником "старик 54" обращенный отнюдь не к вам, а к Geisenbergу
                Какой у вас после этого "до сих пор вопрос"? Не успеваете следить за полетом своей мысли? Да и сегодня я вроде тоже не с вами общался. Что вас не устраивает?
                Quote: Ziksura
                2. Ensuring the safety of the supreme commander.

                Are you a specialist in this matter?
                Quote: LaGlobal
                In any case, there are few specialists who have encroached on 11 times in 12 years of work - like Putin.

                How many attempts from this number can be considered serious, how many are real, and how many PR?
                Quote: LaGlobal
                The danger of the presidency in Russia is even confirmed by US experts:

                "Сайт называется "Военное Обозрение" и с какого перепугу эксперты США стали тут авторитетами?
                Quote: Ziksura
                меня в данном контексте возмущает ваша "нормальность" в вопросах фактического отрицания:......Походу провокатор вы такой же как я карикатурист...... Не фантазируйте лишнего.И возразить вам нечего

                Well, in the realm of fantasy, I can’t keep up with you. To object that I have found and it is not necessary for me to decide what I eat and what I have nothing. Your abnormality does not disturb me. My nickname worked. Farewell.
                To ignore!
    5. Ziksura
      Ziksura 16 August 2013 19: 31 New
      -1
      Quote: Kombitor
      Для охраны "дорогого президентского тела" будет создаваться специальное подразделение,

      Well yes!!!! A year ago, he created the national guard ..... Division of eleven .....

      Special forces of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation are already disbanded ??? Or did you just wake up ???
  30. angolaforever
    angolaforever 16 August 2013 10: 56 New
    +3
    As zadolbali already on the military website articles about domestic politics. I read with interest about the external, as it relates to the balance of power in hostilities. But reading PR articles written by cyber agents of the special services, plus the comments of a couple of people with dozens of accounts on them, is not at all interesting. It is sad that these people, instead of raising Russia's image on foreign resources, work out the salary of the incumbent President among their citizens.
  31. Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 16 August 2013 11: 13 New
    +5
    Guys - turn on your head.

    Помните предвыборную истерию по поводу "оранжевой революции"?
    Let’s suppose for a moment that the State Department is in charge of Navalny: tell me, what do the mentally retarded work in the State Department? No? While the State Department could allow Navalny and Nemtsov-Ryzhkov, who 98% of the population hates, to stand by, this is a guaranteed failure.

    On the other hand, he cannot be an independent figure - he has clearly strong funding.

    Think - who benefits from a figure who likes his revelations, which poses an apparent threat to the current government, but which, as a result of its relations with the German-redheads, will never gain the most votes?
    1. Micex
      Micex 16 August 2013 11: 41 New
      +7
      вот я полностью поддерживаю эту версию. кроме того, что он никогда не изберется - это факт, стоит задаться вопросом - откуда он берет конфиденциальную информацию не только о квартирках чужих, но и о небезизвестных попилах в Транснефти??? Почему в суд дело попало ровно в то время, когда в РФ объявили экономическую амнистию? Где это видано, чтобы "заживо репрессированного" отпустили участвовать в выборах?)))
      In short, I like their very competent policy, everything was played beautifully beautifully.
  32. Ilya Mikhalych
    Ilya Mikhalych 16 August 2013 11: 20 New
    +4
    This Navalny lifted up already, once a week his face flashes on a box. Who the hell is he? What will he change? Same thing to me, Lenin v 2.0. What a sane person will go after this epic stuffed scarecrow.
    1. Alca
      Alca 16 August 2013 12: 14 New
      -2
      It’s better to silently grab a denyushka and throw people’s handouts so that they don’t stink and have a good time.
  33. klavyr
    klavyr 16 August 2013 11: 22 New
    +5
    Его цель-создание почвы для оранжевой революции. Вот только в результате будет смена власти одних жуликов другими (шило на американское мыло), которым нас..ть на Россию и весь её народ. Навальный-проект госдепа, созданный для раскола российского общества, а в дальнейшем и государства. Я ему не верю. За образом "патриота" скрывается аферист.
  34. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 16 August 2013 11: 37 New
    +3
    Quote: Yarosvet
    Think - who benefits from such a figure,

    Ну, тут вполне понятно, тем, кого оттёрли от кормушки и "близости к телу", для тех, кому выгоден любой "мутняк". Их девиз как в известной пословице "Не догоню, так согреюсь". Ну и зачем мне за них "впрягаться
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 16 August 2013 12: 14 New
      0
      I don’t know who you are going to harness for, but ATP (or whatever they are called now) is not profitable, since they simply have nothing to catch. as a result of which they are used as a horror story.

      Navalny could be beneficial to Prokhorov, but for the time being, he is unnoticed in relations with him - therefore, most likely these are different projects at the moment.

      So, in search of a beneficiary, take higher.
  35. Sirs
    Sirs 16 August 2013 12: 00 New
    -2
    Bulk to the mayors !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to the city of Vorkuta. honest politicians are needed there.
    in fact, they are needed everywhere.
    I don’t know Navalny - maybe he is a good man and honest. Maybe they will make him an offer to become the head of the anti-corruption committee
  36. Alca
    Alca 16 August 2013 12: 19 New
    -3
    Article, there is no evidence that bulk studied in the USA. Nashi 15-ruble more and more lie, and you believe, just do not forget to remove the noodles, it’s already hanging around the knee.
  37. ed65b
    ed65b 16 August 2013 12: 19 New
    +3
    Zhirinovsky well done, Navalny lowers like a loshka and he is a loshka. After the election, he will go to his friend Hodor to the zone. There he is already waiting for a personal sewing machine and a place under the key.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 16 August 2013 19: 10 New
      +2
      Quote: ed65b
      There he is already waiting for a personal sewing machine and a place under the key.

      !!!!!!!!!!!!! +++++++++++++ Well, a new cut of cowards. For export. For Europe. With a cut. And not in front.
  38. Victor Kamenev
    16 August 2013 12: 37 New
    +1
    О коррупции... Коррупция - дело тонкое, это вид преступности. Представим, что кто-то решил победить преступность, бороться до последнего преступника.... Он развалит все, недаром народ говорит: простота бывает дороже воровства. Бороться с коррупцией надо, об чем речь, но делать ее "политикой" - это политическая коррупция, она приведет к еще большему воровству.
    Интересный вопрос: почему нашу 5 колонну не берут "под белые руки"? При Суркове, кстати. брали, не очень помогает. Возможно, это следствие того, что наше законодательство сегодня самое либеральное в мире, наши "агенты" по нему "в законе". Официально, врагов за рубежом мы не имеем, так что и пятая колонна как бы невозможна...
    Но в Штатах пятой практически нет, а стоит ей появиться - сразу давят. Для этого там есть спец. закон "Об антиамериканской деятельности", наверное, России пора присмотреться к этому опыту передовой "демократии".
  39. yan
    yan 16 August 2013 12: 39 New
    +3
    the analogy came to an interesting mind. Bulk comrades are very sectarians reminiscent. And the same manners and agitation methods are very similar in many ways. Obsession to sneak, and eternal smile. However, almost according to their scenario the conversation immediately accused of inferiority. Funny
  40. Normal
    Normal 16 August 2013 13: 31 New
    +2
    The article is one continuous fake. Article minus.
    Если в статье убрать понятие "навальный" и поставить в место него понятие "власть", нынешняя "власть", то не возникает ни каких противоречий, все опять сходится. Ну или почти все.
    В his on the face, we are dealing with a fake (fake - English) policy in its purest form, when instead of discussing the essence, they turn to individuals, and insults, ridicule, cynical jokes with subtext, accusations are used

    Убираем "его" и подразумеваем Путин. Сходится. И циничные шуточки с подтекстом и насмешки и не желание обсуждать свою политику по существу.
    Naive political scientists are amazed that Navalny has no economic, foreign or domestic "policy" - and he simply does not need it. In this hypothetical case, he has “experts” whom he allegedly can always attract, but in reality he has long been with them, apparently on the content.

    Убираем из цитаты "Навального" и... получаем Путина в начале его правления.
    “And I do not believe in the pretty picture that many believed in, in which the young beautiful lawyer came out alone to fight the huge state machine. This cannot be simply because it does not happen. History does not know such a lone hero. I would not have believed it, even if I hadn’t personally been acquainted with Navalny, but I personally knew him. I believe that smart, strong and influential people are behind Navalny, this is their project, they relied on him. ”

    И я не верю, что ВВП в одиночку противостоял мировому злу и российской олигархии, спас страну от развала. "История не знает такого героя-одиночки", но это не мешает провластным делать из Путина икону.
  41. individual
    individual 16 August 2013 13: 31 New
    +1
    Navalny is the result of a mutation of a lawyer into a holy fool.
  42. Normal
    Normal 16 August 2013 13: 33 New
    0
    In the case of political hysteria, the best means, respectively, is a good “public slap in the face”, so our fakes are best treated by “Doctor Zhirinovsky,” who has a lot of practice in this area. Not everyone likes him, let alone what he is.

    Эсли для Каменева Жириновский - авторитет и "доктор", то Каменеву надо к настоящему доктору. Но это вряд-ли. Скорее всего автору хотелось бы стать Жириновским, да не судьба.
    The new internal political strategy “after Surkov” seems to consist in squeezing fakes like abscesses into public space so that everyone can smell their real smell. After opening the abscess, it is known to be easier to treat.

    Even pimple youths know that it is impossible to crush abscesses, especially on the face.
    Конечно, обычно прокатывает, но бывает, что и наоборот - можно покрыться прыщами с ног до головы или вообще заражение крови схлопотать. Автор же пишет "как известно"; то-ли сознательно врет, то-ли элементарно гигиенически безграмотен.
    The fake smell of the current election campaign is, of course, not for refined noses, but what can you do if the Kremlin has decided to try to turn their weapons against the fakes. In the summer, when even the ordinary life in Russia stops, this tactic can be successful, and now it's summer in Russia.

    Нет, уважаемый. Это не Кремль обратил против фейков их же оружие. Это фейковая политика Кремля привела к появлению такой оппозиции и такого "противника". Много лет Кремль уничтожал все любые ростки настоящей оппозиции на политическом пространстве и культивировал псевдо оппозицию с ручными лидерами во главе. Да и нынешний чертополох "Навальный" наверняка имеет корни в кремлевской оранжерее.
  43. Pimply
    Pimply 16 August 2013 13: 34 New
    +3
    No matter how much saliva flows here, one thing must be understood: the opposition is needed so that the elite do not gobble up. The opposition does not allow the elite to relax. The stronger the opposition, the greater the chance that the elite will not behave like a snickering boar. And a change of elites is also necessary - again for the same. There is nothing good in constant stability - it grows into a swamp. With all its drawbacks, Navalny returned to Russia an interest in politics, and made the top move. And politics and elections are just a chance that everything will not end someday with blood. Because the revolution is not arranged by the bulk and not by the Americans - they are satisfied with people who are disgusted with everything.
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  45. Ivan_Ivanov
    Ivan_Ivanov 16 August 2013 14: 23 New
    +3
    bulk, start with yourself
  46. Zhenya
    Zhenya 16 August 2013 14: 32 New
    -7
    And why is everyone silent about Sobyanin? 70% of the population of Moscow is against him, he is a mediocre and illiterate mayor, but according to SOC polls (wrong chocks), 70% support him !!!!! residents of the city, and where are the elections? Where? One lie.
    1. Constantine
      Constantine 17 August 2013 09: 55 New
      -1
      Quote: Marrying
      And why is everyone silent about Sobyanin? 70% of the population of Moscow is against him, he is a mediocre and illiterate mayor, but according to SOC polls (wrong chocks), 70% support him !!!!! residents of the city, and where are the elections? Where? One lie.


      Everyone I know is for Sobyanin. Nobody even takes your Clown seriously. Everyone is looking at business.

      It became more convenient to travel by public transport, the roadway remains alive longer, queues in the subway have forgotten everything, chaotically scattered tents with incomprehensible things — forgot, stretch marks on the streets — forgot, obscure people requiring a parking fee out of the blue — forgot, new interchanges, which to me personally, save about 30 minutes. You can continue to list, but what did Navalny do except verbiage? wassat
  47. Muadipus
    Muadipus 16 August 2013 14: 32 New
    +4
    Лозунг "Измени Россию, начни с Москвы" на фоне постамента "Москва" - - А чем ему постамент не нравится, зачем его менять?

    Зы. Вот не воспринимаю я Навального серьезно, не на вид, не на слух, не по делам его. Какой-то он "мелкий" в широком понимании этого слова. У меня аналогичные эмоции вызывал Медведев... и 4 года это доказали.

    A great country, a great city must be ruled by great people. And we are all as in a song sung:
    "Мы наших врагов венчаем на царство
    И ждем благодати с небес"
  48. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 16 August 2013 14: 53 New
    +1
    Kind! I’m wondering, from boredom I got into measures or what? I remember only one thing about him - Blogger ..... I think everyone knows who a blogger is!
  49. voliador
    voliador 16 August 2013 14: 56 New
    +1
    И что этот либераст хочет изменить. А главное каким путём? Уж не тем ли, что ему Макфол указал на своей первой встрече с нашей "либерастной оппозицией". Насколько я помню, он на этой встрече был.
  50. adversa
    adversa 16 August 2013 15: 44 New
    0
    yes let him become mayor of Moscow. After half a year they arrest for bribes