The contract for the supply of IL-112 for the Air Force may be concluded before the end of the year

Until the end of 2013, a contract for the supply of military transport aircraft Il-62В can be concluded between the Ministry of Defense of Russia and OAO Il, an official spokesman for the company said.

“To date, an agreement has been reached on the signing of a“ road map ”with the Russian Defense Ministry. We plan to do this together with the KLA in August, and by December this year we expect to sign two contracts, "said a company spokesman, RIA"News».

According to him, by December this year it is planned to complete work on the tactical and technical requirements in order to finalize the terms of the draft agreements with the Ministry of Defense, including financial ones.

“The first contract is for us to complete the development of this aircraft, that is, for development work. The second contract is a serial one for the supply of 62 aircraft to the Ministry of Defense, ”the company said.

According to a company representative, it is planned to build the first flight model of the IL-112В and begin flight tests in the 2015 year. “In 2017, we expect to start deliveries of these aircraft to the Armed Forces of Russia,” reported Il.

Earlier, Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borisov said that the Russian military is planning to re-equip its fleet of light military transport aircraft. According to him, the An-26 (CJSC Aviakor, Samara) and the Il-140V (developer of OJSC Il, manufacturer of OJSC Voronezh, were considered to replace the obsolete An-112 aviation aircraft manufacturing association ").

Recall that in July 2011, the construction of the first sample of the Il-112В light military transport aircraft at the Voronezh plant was frozen.

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[valokordin]

Everything is frozen here, that's why we have scumbags around. Did 112 ever fly? The IL-110 was made in Tashkent and it flew, and the thugs froze it.

[strange and pretty meaningless]

"Until the end of the 2013 year between the Ministry of Defense of Russia and OJSC "IL" may be concluded contract for the supply of 62 military transport aircraft Il-112V"

Somehow strains this "maybe". Good news should be concise and clear - and this muddiness is more disturbing.

[Botanologist]

Quote: abyrvalg

strains this "maybe".

Of course, it is annoying, but if we do not start at least with "maybe", we will never get "already is."
Anecdote on this topic:

Graduation at the medical institute. Teacher- "you have between 5 and 4, will you take an additional question?" Student - I will !. Okay, here's a skeleton, tell me. Well, the student went - a child's skeleton, physically weak, signs of scoliosis, etc. etc. Well done, 5!
Another student takes the same additional question. The skeleton is brought in. She is "the skeleton of an adult, physically developed, large condyles, etc. ..." Teacher - what was here? - points to the pelvic bone. Student - "there was a member here."
The teacher is "sit down, 4."
Student - why 4?
The teacher, pointing to the pelvis - there was a member, this is the skeleton of a woman.

[Chicot 1]

Quote: valokordin

IL-110

But what exactly is this beast like that? .. About Il-102, Il-103, Il-106, Il-112, Il-114 heard, but about the Il-110 not. Maybe enlighten? .. Or ...

Quote: valokordin

IL-110 was made in Tashkent and he flew

Maybe you mean all the same IL-114. It really was produced in Tashkent. If my memory serves me at the aircraft factory them. Chkalova ...
But the Il-114 is not a "truck" (although it has a place to have a cargo version), it is a vehicle of a completely different class. You will understand this by looking at his photo ...

[Alex 241]

I welcome Vasily. Most likely, IL 114-100. IL-114-100 was created on the basis of the IL-114 aircraft. The aircraft differs from its predecessor in the installation of PW-127H engines from PRATT & WHITNEY (Canada). The new power plant allowed to increase the flight range and improve takeoff and landing characteristics, including in high altitude and high ambient temperatures.
As well as the base aircraft, the Il-114-100 is designed for use on local airlines, providing passengers with conditions similar to the level of comfort of long-haul airliners.

The first flight of the aircraft took place on January 26, 1999.
Test pilot I.I.Gudkov.

Type Certificate No. СТ178-Ил-114-100 АР МАК was received in December 1999.

[zzaharr]

The machine is exactly the same class as the 112 / 140 / 26. Does it bother you that it’s a low wing?

[Chicot 1]

Quote: Alex 241

Vasily welcome

Good day to you, Alexander Your health and happy holiday!

Quote: Alex 241

Most likely IL 114-100

It could even be ... But by and large, the essence itself does not change ...

Quote: zzaharr

The machine is exactly the same class as the 112 / 140 / 26. Does it bother you that it’s a low wing?

If I'm wrong, then let professionals and people who know me correct me ... But ...
In general, yes. Since this scheme is not very suitable for transport workers. First and foremost, a greater distance between the floor of the cargo compartment and the ground ...
But to a greater extent, the lack of a cargo ramp and a relatively small cargo compartment are confusing. This is necessary for the transportation of bulky goods. For example, cars like the same "Tiger" or some other ...
The impossibility (or significant difficulty) in strengthening the main chassis is also confusing. In particular, it would not hurt to increase the number of wheels. For a lower specific pressure on the aerodrome coating. After all, transport workers (and even more so the military) often work at completely "non-luxurious" airfields ..
And I will note at the end ... "Redesign" the Il-114 into a classic transport aircraft and you will receive ... the same Il-112 ...

[Chicot 1]

Quote: Chicot 1

"Redesign" the Il-114 into a classic transport aircraft and you will get ... the same Il-112 ...

That's how it happened. Moreover, not otherwise ...

[Alex 241]

IL-114T. The IL-114T airplane was created on the basis of the passenger IL-114 and is designed to carry 7 tons of cargo on local airlines with a length of up to 4800 km under various conditions, including when operating from low-equipped airfields with artificial or unpaved surfaces. the circular cross-section with a diameter of 2,86 m allows you to transport up to 8 standard cargo containers, for loading which in the rear of the fuselage on the left side there is a large cargo door, tilting upwards (3,250x1,715 m). In the 19 m long cargo compartment located behind the crew’s cabin, quick-detachable cargo equipment is installed on the floor rails, including roller tracks for moving goods in containers or on pallets. The tail section of the cargo compartment is used primarily for the transport of goods placed in the "bulk".

[Alex 241]

Cargo hatch of IL-114T aircraft

[zzaharr]

Quote: Chicot 1

"Redesign" the Il-114 into a classic transport aircraft and you will get ... the same Il-112 ..

Here it is! ))) What I wrote below in the comments.
With all the shortcomings, 114 has an undeniable advantage - it is serial and flies.
Agree - to certify the transport version, this is not a new type for you to fly around.
And again, at the expense of the ramp, from communication with BTA pilots I definitely learned that the An-26 is basically a courier plane, carries officers and small things. Yes, there are tasks and places of deployment where the presence of a ramp and a telerif is simply necessary ... well, let the An-26 work there for now, those whose resources have not yet been worked out. And 114 there it is, you can touch it with your hands. And who said that he sits badly on the ground?
And thirdly, it was not from a good life that the army began to order An-140.

[Chicot 1]

Quote: zzaharr

That’s imanno!)))

Yes and no. The Il-112 will not be a transport version of the Il-114, but a specialized transport aircraft. Perhaps with some degree of unification with the Il-114, but it will be a new and "different" machine ...

Quote: zzaharr

well, let them while An-26 work there, those whose resources have not yet been worked out

Alas, they are not eternal, and they need to prepare a replacement now ...

Quote: zzaharr

from communication with BTA pilots, I definitely learned that the An-26 is basically a courier plane, carries officers and small things

For the courier, An-140, for example, is also suitable. So the IL-114 is not the only one of its kind ...
But even small things are more convenient to load and unload with a ramp than without it ...

Quote: zzaharr

And who said that he sits badly on the ground?

By the way, I have never and anywhere stated that the Il-114 does not sit well on the ground. But a transporter with a "flatter" chassis will sit on it even better ...

Quote: zzaharr

not from a good life, the army began to order the An-140

Maybe not good. But the An-140 plane itself is good. And it flies too and you can touch it too. And I think that his transport option is just around the corner ...
And the fact that it is a Ukrainian Kag-Bae ... And in fact, why is the Ukrainian "An" produced at a Russian enterprise worse than the Russian "Il" produced at an Uzbek one? ..

[White]

And Ilyushin will have enough strength IL-476, MTA, probably people are busy on the MS-21 and there is also IL-112. Is the design bureau really in such perfect condition to pull out so many projects.

[Lopatov]

I think that designing has been completed for a very long time. Its development began in 1993, in 2010 Serdyukov refused to finance the construction of 4 prototypes.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: White

And Ilyushin will have enough strength IL-476, MTA, probably people are busy on the MS-21 and there is also IL-112

Quote: Spade

I think that the design is completed a very long time ago

Now the question is the capacity of the plants.

[svp67]

Quote: Spade

I think that designing has been completed for a very long time.

I agree. Most likely still Soviet developments. Although, according to some information, a computer (read the most advanced) design scheme is now used at Ilyushin, which makes it possible to greatly speed up both the design process itself and raise its level ... In general, I am very glad about the news, although I would be more happy about the specifics, that today a contract has been concluded for the supply within three years, at least 1000 machines of this type, since the good old An26 certainly requires replacement, since they are very worn out ...

[White]

Now everything is being designed on a computer, I’m doing an elementary screw and I’m doing it through 3D. For IL-112, all documentation is paper, in which case all of it must also be converted to computer graphics. When there was talk over the An-70, paper documentation was put into one of the most global shortcomings, and the sums for translating it into a computer totaled hundreds of millions.
In any case, the machine was not yet in metal, which means that it is necessary to make prototypes to test, finish, etc. How much it will drag on I can’t even imagine.
I’m not sure, but it seems like 112 partially wanted to unify with 114 which by the way were produced in Uzbekistan and which died the death of the brave

[Tersky]

Until the end of the 2013 year between the Ministry of Defense of Russia and OJSC "IL" maybe A contract was signed for the supply of 62 military transport aircraft Il-112В, an official representative of the company said. Fortune-telling again, maybe presumably, probably, we are planning, etc. In the 2013 year, the Il-112 program celebrates its twenty-year anniversary, and things are still there. Everyone can’t decide on the light transporter of either AN or IL, but the age of the youngest LTS in the Russian Armed Forces has already exceeded the 25 summer period, the resource of this line with the sparing 30-40 mode. We guess further until the thunder strikes ...

[Dmitry 2246]

The aircraft is 95% ready waiting for a new engine (more powerful).
The prospect of 300 aircraft in the CIS.

[slava7075]

I also heard that the whole program was just slowed down due to the lack of a decent engine. maybe the engine operators still convinced the Ministry of Defense of their ability to refine it to his requirements?

[olegff68]

Oh, and officials in our country like such a swing.

[anfreezer]

What are the fashionable words nowadays - "road map", what topic do not poke into ... But we have t-a-a-ky roads, what's on the map, what's not on the map

[Chicot 1]

A similar aircraft is needed. Park An-26 and its derivatives are not eternal. Replacement of the An-12 is also necessary. We need a machine of the class Il-106 being developed by us (and frozen) ...
In short, everywhere is "necessary" and "necessary". Everything depends on finances and time (more precisely, in its lack) ...
And therefore, I am glad that at least something is moving from a dead center. After all, the only work that has been carried out in our country recently on the topic of military transport aviation is the modernization of the Il-76. But one "Merry" will not do, we need cars of other classes, both with lower and higher carrying capacity. I think that we should not forget about the An-72. A unique car for which modernization would also be useful ...
And be that as it may, I personally wish that such a wonderful aircraft as the An-70 was with such an unfortunate fate. I hope that the career of the Il-112 will be more successful, and soon we will see it in the ranks of the Air Force BTA and Russian civil aviation ...

[ivshubarin]

I think the AN-70 will be riveted in Russia, it is in some cases more convenient than the IL-76, Shamanov punches it for the airborne.

[Constantine]

Quote: ivshubarin

I think the AN-70 will be riveted in Russia, it is in some cases more convenient than the IL-76, Shamanov punches it for the airborne.

You need to understand that there are also political subtleties. If Ukraine goes to the West, then there will be no An-70 and nothing at all. Is that the An-124 is being reanimated on our territory. In my opinion, this news is another signal to comrades from Ukraine that "and - and" will not come out, there is only "either - or".

[Chicot 1]

Quote: Constantine

You need to understand that there are also political subtleties

These same "political subtleties"Recently, good aircraft have been crushed ...

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

I hope to replace the ans. But just do there should be at least some sort of unification. Light is silt 112, medium is pay, heavy is silt 476 and heavy Ruslan, and not the fucking zoo that we have now.

[Sirs]

Il definitely need !!! Ana they are Ukrainian and that says it all.

[xczszs]

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[zzaharr]

112th, this is still a "paper" plane. While the point is, why not set up 114T, because the equipment was transported from TAPOiCH to Ulyanovsk. And this is a serial aircraft flying!

[katran666]

actually, one doesn’t interfere with the other - if there was one line - just VASO would be loaded. personally, I only welcome ...

[zzaharr]

Equipment only on Aviastar (if only on TAPOiCH not about * bali). Once again, this is a serial, flying aircraft, certified (civilian version). 112 only wins due to the availability of the ramp. Yes, only the cargoes of the aircraft that require a ramp are a few, mostly all on pallets and pallets, or even simply in bulk.

[White]

Well then, the An-140 which already arriving in the air force.

[Lopatov]

An-140T is at the same stage as the Il-112 - money is needed to continue the development and construction of prototypes. So why should this money be allocated to Ukraine?

[Lopatov]

Quote: zzaharr

Yes, only cargo from the aircraft that require a ramp is a few

And here you are wrong. Transport aviation requires a full-fledged plane with a ramp. Remember the same camp "Barneo" How would it have been created if the "Cheburashka" did not have a ramp, and could not drop cargo platforms

[zzaharr]

This is an isolated case, for which the An-72 actually exists (very expensive, and not very economical. But in such cases, money is not counted). I'm talking about a massive workhorse. Yes, for the Airborne Forces 114T by, but otherwise it is just right. Staff officers with "packages" and urgent deliveries of nomenclature are their main clients. Everything else, either by railway, or An-12, Il-76.

[Lopatov]

A "massive workhorse" incapable of ejecting cargo platforms and incapable of unloading on its own at field airfields? Is she really needed?

[zzaharr]

At the moment, I think so. The logic is simple: while 112, this is a distant prospect, it is logical to send the still vigorous An-26 to hard work, and their place at large airfields will be replaced by the Il-114T. After all, the most important thing is that this can be done not in the "distant future", but in the foreseeable future. And when the Il-112 arrives, the 114th I think will not remain idle. The same comers with hands will tear off.

[PLO]

And when the IL-112 arrives, the 114th I think will not remain idle. Those comrades with their hands torn off.

why did they get the idea that the production of IL-114 can be quickly resumed, TAPOiCh has long bent, the same production of IL-76 is transferred to Aviastar with a big creak, do you think that the production of IL-114 is easier to transfer?
taking into account the fact that the IL-112 program stalled at the very construction of flight prototypes, so it is likely that with the simultaneous advancement of both aircraft they will begin to be produced simultaneously, and the IL-114 will already be an obvious outsider against the background of the IL-112

[zzaharr]

Quote: olp

IL-114 production easier to transfer?

Not easier, but this is the production of certified aircraft, and not starting from scratch.

Quote: olp

IL-114 will already be a clear outsider against the background of IL-112

This fate is rather An-140. In general, you need to butt but not with each other, but first of all with CASA. Yes, it is more expensive, well, so its characteristics are hoo.

[smiths xnumx]

With all the wealth of choice, we have no other alternative. L-410 is the only training aircraft of our VTA and long-range aviation, especially Tu-95. An-2, of course, is unkillable, but it has long been outdated, and we have not yet bought the rights to the An-140. At present, the question of light VTA is becoming acute. Today it is based on 39 An-72/74 and 76 An-24/26. Airplanes are aging, spare parts are produced in Ukraine, relations with which are not very good and I am afraid they will be even worse. Il-214 or MTA, created jointly with India, the contract for which will only be concluded by the end of this year, will make its first flight only in 2016-2018. Moreover, the An-140 and L-410 do not have a cargo ramp and, in fact, are purely passenger aircraft. I am afraid that at this rate we ourselves will follow the example of Kazakhstan and Lithuania and will purchase CASA C-295, A-400M and C-27J "Spartan". Yours faithfully!

[zzaharr]

CASA C-295 is a good plane. They say Kazakhs are extremely satisfied. It will be difficult to pull them onto our technology again.

[Cherdak]

Quote: anfreezer

What are the fashionable words nowadays - "road map", what topic do not stick to ...

And all because a number of half-educated dudes translated the road map not as a "plan of action", which is clear from the context, but straight into the forehead without further ado. And it stuck like a parasite word. This is from a series that hot dog is proud to call "hot dog" - such would be sent to Korea for the truth.

[Cherdak]

Not very successful advertising, but here the lack of funding is clearly visible http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=F0b4rYqU74g

[Siberian]

Quote: valokordin

Everything is frozen here, that's why we have scumbags around. Did 112 ever fly? The IL-110 was made in Tashkent and it flew, and the thugs froze it.

Would our kind of aircraft production be transferred to us in RUSSIA? Or is it really frozen? Then scumbags. And what else.

[zzaharr]

Quote: Chicot 1

And in fact, why is the Ukrainian "An" produced at a Russian enterprise worse than the Russian "Il" produced at an Uzbek one?

Here, actually come to a key point. Well, let's start with the royalties, and this is 5-15% of the factory cost of the aircraft. The political aspect, these are two. Well, and the lack of a ramp, I think it's three.
Of course, the Il-114T will never see the air, but for the 112th there was a real chance. But for the Ukrainian colleagues the “window of opportunity” has apparently already closed.
The bottleneck is the engine, here we have nothing to brag about, alas ((

[Lone gunman]

IL-112V for a transporter, even nothing — a beautiful bird, a beautiful flight, I would like to say after 2017 ... the Russians can’t do not beautiful planes))) ...