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NATO – Russia: no friendship no enmity

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NATO – Russia: no friendship no enmityA regular meeting of the Russia-NATO Council (NRC) took place in Brussels last week. Our country was represented there by Deputy Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov and Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Russia, Colonel-General Alexander Postnikov. The agenda of the meeting was devoted to a very important topic - strengthening trust between our country and the North Atlantic Alliance and increasing transparency, that is, openness in the military field. As in the first and second cases, it still remains, perhaps, the most acute problem in the mutual relations of the parties. The obstacles to the establishment of closer relations, as you know, here are the creation of a European missile defense system, which is in the immediate plans of the atlantists, and the tactical nuclear weapon The United States, which is located on the territory of the countries of the alliance, and the desire to move eastward, undisguised by Brussels, is getting closer and closer to Russia's borders. Including persistent calls for the need to admit Georgia as a member of NATO, which did not draw proper conclusions from the lessons of its aggression against South Ossetia, and even Finland.


But these are not the only differences that prevent full cooperation between the parties. Another sensitive issue in the relationship between Moscow and Brussels is control over conventional weapons. According to the Russian side, today there is no need to keep unchanged the instruments of arms control and disarmament that were established during the Cold War. Including the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe (CFE), from which our country withdrew in December 2007. He has completely exhausted himself, and new agreements — such as the Vienna Document 2011 of the Year and the Open Skies Treaty, which allows you to see and know what is happening militarily in a given country — can replace it completely.

There is a problem with regard to new types of weapons. Some of them blur the line between nuclear and non-nuclear munitions. And so non-nuclear weapons cannot be artificially withdrawn from negotiations to reduce stockpiles of nuclear weapons. This applies to carriers of various types, from cruise missiles to multifunction fighters and even strike drones, which can also be used to deliver nuclear warheads to a target. According to the domestic military, restrictions on conventional weapons that were within the scope of the CFE Treaty (Tanks, armored combat vehicles, artillery systems, planes and helicopters), as a means of preventing aggression, primarily for large-scale operations, today have lost much of their significance. Now, drones and electronic warfare systems, cyber weapons systems, the ability to launch weapons into space, advanced missile defense systems, and the creation of compact special-purpose units capable of operating at great distances from their own bases are now coming to the fore.

The presence of all this in the arsenal of one or another state can provoke individual regimes to unexpected aggression, an attempt by force to solve old problems with its neighbors, to draw all of us into large-scale military actions with unpredictable consequences. This is especially dangerous during the rampant international terrorism, religious extremism, and attempts to change governments that are unwelcome by someone in this or that country with the help of multi-colored revolutions.

During the tactical and operational-tactical exercises, attempts to play out the Cold War scenarios and to cause fears of aggression from neighbors in the NATO countries for a long time do not serve to strengthen confidence, which, by the way, is directly included in the design of the Stedfast Jazz-20132 maneuvers, which are planned in Poland, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia in November of this year. The main idea underlying these exercises - the countries of the North Atlantic Alliance, guided by the requirement of paragraph 5 of the Washington Treaty, come to the aid of their allies, against whom an unnamed country committed aggression. Who borders on the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and the Baltic countries, it is not necessary to guess. Here it is obvious who the NATO staff officers mean - the developers of the upcoming exercises. And the justification that Russia and Belarus also conduct their “West-2013” maneuvers at the borders of the same Poland and Lithuania cannot be misled by anyone. In the scenario of the Russian-Belarusian teachings there is not a word about aggression by any state. In them, as is customary in recent times and how it really correlates with the international situation, it refers to the reaction to the actions of terrorist groups and illegal armed groups. What is called, feel the difference.

Moreover, the scenario of these exercises was disclosed in detail in a speech in Brussels by the Deputy Chief of the General Staff, General Alexander Postnikov, and specific polygons were named where the active maneuvers phase, the number of combat equipment and personnel involved, and the structure of military command and control bodies would take place. Invited observers from the North Atlantic Alliance. And this is not the only example of transparency in conducting exercises that Russia demonstrates in relation to NATO.

How to improve our relationship? What can and should Russia and NATO do together to increase trust in each other and be more predictable in strengthening their security? The proposals of the domestic military are not new, but have not lost their relevance. In the first place is the development of an open and honest dialogue on all issues of interest to the parties. Including reforming the armed forces and conducting various types of exercises near the borders, continuing the practice of inviting observers to the most significant of them. It is necessary to create a common security space from the Atlantic to the Urals and to take additional measures of transparency, as proposed by the delegation of Germany. And of course, to work more closely in the fight against common threats. Not only in words, but in deeds. There is simply no other way to eliminate the defects of trust.
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  1. Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 13 August 2013 18: 53 New
    13
    Improving relations between Russia and NATO is like making friends with a wolf pack.
    hehe he turned his back a little BEAR here the wolves by his ass and grab, something like this can be described.
    1. Civil
      Civil 13 August 2013 20: 35 New
      -6
      What again do we want war, so that the rest of the world neigh and make money, especially the United States ?!
      1. Grenader
        Grenader 13 August 2013 20: 53 New
        10
        Quote: Civil
        What again do we want war, so that the rest of the world neigh and make money, especially the United States ?!

        We certainly do not want war. The last 20 years we have been nowhere more peaceful - the Warsaw bloc was dismantled, the country was gouged, the army was weakened, fighting Yeltsin kissed the star-striped ass passionately in the very middle, and that NATO disbanded itself due to the absence of an enemy? We are "partners" with them, so why are they pushing missiles to our borders?
        One conclusion suggests itself - NATO is an aggressive, conquering bloc no different from Hitler's Germany with its allies and it is impossible to be weak in any respect next to such a "partner". As soon as they feel that they can attack with impunity, they will immediately unleash a war (there were many plans for an attack on the USSR, and they would have attacked and bombed with nuclear bombs if not for the strength of the Soviet Army). So if you want peace, prepare for war.
      2. Theophanes
        Theophanes 14 August 2013 00: 50 New
        +4
        "That we want war again ..." NATO - the most diligent ass licking in the USA! This bunch of scoundrels and scum showed themselves best of all during the bombing of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan. NATO is a wolf pack obedient to the slightest desire of the amerikosov. They surround Russia from all sides. They’re pulling Georgia by the ears, and they don’t forget Moldova. And Ukraine is being courted! With ... and they! With them you have to be very careful and do not tell or show anything to scoundrels! There are no honest ones among them and there never will be! They only recognize POWER. So you have to become strong !!!
  2. experienced
    experienced 13 August 2013 18: 54 New
    +3
    It is necessary to create a common security space from the Atlantic to the Urals and take additional transparency measures, as the delegation of Germany suggests. And of course, to work more closely in the fight against common threats. Not only in words, but in deeds. There is simply no other way to address the flaws in trust.

    Well, the union of a sheep with a wolf is more real than cooperation between Russia and NATO. It is clear that these are diplomatic games, the main thing in them is not to "outplay", otherwise it will be like the promise of "NATO's non-proliferation to the East." When it is profitable for them, they spit on any agreements, now they impose the European missile defense
  3. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 13 August 2013 18: 55 New
    +9
    Liberalism - I know that word.
    Tolerance - I also know now.
    Transparency - now learned a new abusive word ...
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 13 August 2013 22: 57 New
      +2
      When will we be friends with NATO?
      Immediately after the fans of Spartak and Zenit start rooting together for Lokomotiv, or after joint bathing of the landing party and the LGBT community in the fountain on the Airborne Forces’s Day, friendship will probably come when the cancer on the mountain whistles or as soon as possible, we’ll be friends in short, but not this hour
  4. Dimy4
    Dimy4 13 August 2013 19: 03 New
    +7
    What kind of friendship can we talk about, these gentlemen understand friendship as one continuous concession on our part only. So that later it would be easier to destroy us. Better be the enemies of this disciplines.
    1. Very old
      Very old 13 August 2013 19: 15 New
      +3
      Friendship? Yes, they have a tobacco apart. Our delegation will not take anything good out of this meeting. Usual proposals to surrender this, surrender this. Russia has risen to its feet, and the NATO people see it all kneeling. Wake up!
      1. Airman
        Airman 13 August 2013 21: 48 New
        +5
        Quote: Old very
        Friendship? Yes, they have a tobacco apart. Our delegation will not take anything good out of this meeting. Usual proposals to surrender this, surrender this. Russia has risen to its feet, and the NATO people see it all kneeling. Wake up!

        Stop playing these liberal games. It’s time to close all the information about our armed forces and about our exercises. For hell in the exercises, representatives of NATO forces? Better to get information from the spies we will catch. There can be no friendship between Russia and NATO by definition.
    2. Roman_999
      Roman_999 13 August 2013 19: 18 New
      +2
      The very concept of Friendship I think is interpreted differently by Us and the Western world. For Us, this word is MUTUAL ASSISTANCE and SUPPORT, and what it means to Them for them has not been washed for a quarter of a century.
  5. Roman_999
    Roman_999 13 August 2013 19: 10 New
    +4
    I think it is necessary to maintain extremely correct polite coexistence, but it is necessary to end up spreading under the West, We have our own life, they have their own - they will come with the nose to give war, as always, but they will offer the case - we’ll think about how to decide in fact. We are different, despite the fact that, in general, we are all human, it means that we need to exist in different ways - but it’s better - in a neighborly way, I think Europe is on the verge of understanding this now. finally. it’s already time for 1000 to understand with more than a few years, because so many times they have received stars, it’s time and with their brains to understand the essence of the differences in the Miroklad. I wish Europe to finally think with its head and not turn it looking for allies to attack. Being neighbors is more profitable than breaking peaks and spending resources on war.
  6. Vlad_Mir
    Vlad_Mir 13 August 2013 19: 12 New
    +2
    If only there was no war! The rest is all the little things!
  7. Dimy4
    Dimy4 13 August 2013 19: 21 New
    +5
    And again, at the end of the article tryndezh about a single system with Europe from the Atlantic to the Urals. Does anyone want to be one with this Europe at least in one thing?
  8. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 13 August 2013 19: 28 New
    +7
    Si vis pacem, para bellum If you want peace - get ready for war.
    This is the only thing that will ensure smooth relations with NATO.
  9. vitas
    vitas 13 August 2013 19: 35 New
    +3
    NATO is an instrument of the United States, it is useless to negotiate with them and with the Americans. The United States has only slave countries and enemy countries, I think that we better be an enemy country, we need to improve our army and increase our authority in the world. Well, there is no problem with increasing authority, but with the army ...
  10. Ilya Mikhalych
    Ilya Mikhalych 13 August 2013 19: 41 New
    +5
    N-unconventional
    A-anti-Russian
    T-totalitarian
    O-union
    1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 13 August 2013 19: 56 New
      +5
      I would replace the totalitarian with the terrorist hi
  11. vadson
    vadson 13 August 2013 19: 56 New
    +8
    yes they went. ..
    it’s necessary to withdraw from the treaty on intermediate and shorter-range missiles and rivet them three hundred and four four, put them against the whales of the Turks and Europe naturally
    1. Theophanes
      Theophanes 14 August 2013 01: 21 New
      +1
      I agree, we must get out of the missile treaties !!! What kind of friendship with NATO is the article about? It is necessary to rivet rockets, tanks, aircraft, ships. Return schools, academies, research institutes, military representatives to production and design bureaus. The oligarchs to Khodorkovsky in the neighbor, to ban the export of money from the country, to return the Central Bank of Russia, changing the constitution.
  12. andrei332809
    andrei332809 13 August 2013 20: 14 New
    +6
    building confidence between our country and the Alliance

    what kind of trust are we talking about? who to trust? pi-nd0 myself ?!
  13. APASUS
    APASUS 13 August 2013 20: 14 New
    +2
    NATO fails to be with one hand for peace and with the other to clean weapons!
    Despite the fact that we must provide the world!
  14. SPBOBL
    SPBOBL 13 August 2013 20: 15 New
    +7
    Russia cannot build friendship with Nata ... because this Nata is against us and was built ... I believe that Russia has the right to pursue a tougher policy with respect to Nate, the Baltic countries, Georgia, and with respect to Amrikos in general act exclusively in their interests on the basis of double standards ... that is, to act in a mirror ... according to the actions of the GDP, this can be seen, in which I, HIS, fully support ...
    And in response to a pause of the barracks, to drive out .... the apricots from the Russian space program and then drive out the apricots from the Russian land and then from the lands previously occupied by the Indians ...
  15. tupolev-95
    tupolev-95 13 August 2013 20: 27 New
    +1
    All friendship with NATO comes down to lowering our defenses. So no friendship is the red stump on their collar!
  16. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 13 August 2013 20: 28 New
    +2
    NATO will soon suffer the fate of CMEA .. only in the worst case scenario .. This process has already begun .. And the task of Russia to lead this .. and to attract as many countries as possible .. (until they were robbed completely and a controlled house was arranged. .) ..
  17. Dyukha Siberian
    Dyukha Siberian 13 August 2013 20: 52 New
    +3
    somehow at the beginning of summer I’m going through the courtyard, a local kid playing war games alone for Russia and other NATO))) is it really already being transmitted at the level of genes?)))
    1. yurii p
      yurii p 13 August 2013 22: 18 New
      +2
      no one has canceled advertising yet, especially at the level of films, and our film businessmen lost this front before starting hostilities, surrendered at the mercy of the winners, what they can do is fight for the development of budget financing. You can put up an assessment even by looking at our advertising, now I see advertising with sob..k, and this word determines the rating of our cinema, this is not a mistake in writing, this is an assessment of the cinema, the state of the beginning of the 20th century.
  18. michajlo
    michajlo 13 August 2013 21: 19 New
    +1
    Quote: Roman_999
    The very concept of Friendship I think is interpreted differently by Us and the Western world. For Us, this word is MUTUAL ASSISTANCE and SUPPORT, and what it means to Them for them has not been washed for a quarter of a century.

    Quote: Roman_999
    Extremely correct polite coexistence, I think it is necessary,
    but to creep under the West it is necessary to end, We have our own life, they have their own - they will come with war over the nose to give as always, but they will offer the Case - we will think about how to solve it in fact.
    We are different, despite the fact that, in general, we are all human, it means that we need to exist in different ways - but it’s better - in a neighborly way, I think Europe is on the verge of understanding this now.
    at last. it's time for more than 1000 years to understand, because so many times have received the stars, it is time and the brain to understand the essence of the differences in the world order.
    I wish Europe to finally think with its head and not turn it around looking for allies in order to attack.
    Being neighbors is more profitable than breaking peaks and spending resources on war.

    Good evening dear "Roman_999"! good No additions.
  19. Digston
    Digston 13 August 2013 21: 56 New
    +1
    And we don't need friendship with them
  20. individual
    individual 13 August 2013 22: 03 New
    +1
    All this is not clear, NATO is demonstrating an aggressive expansion to the east - early Ukraine, Georgia, and now Finland.
    Arranged opposition to Russia's policy on the Syrian issue. They incite their vassals of the Arab world against Russia.
    They pit us against China and the Islamic world.
    And we are strengthening transparency, military openness and cooperation with confidence.
    It would be okay to play tank biathlon soldiers, but that at the state, political level is nonsense.
  21. yurii p
    yurii p 13 August 2013 22: 04 New
    +1
    How can we improve our relationship? What can and should Russia and NATO do together to increase trust in each other ........... it's like combining oil with water, but now it seems that these substances are connected, but this is only an appearance, at a microscopic level it is impossible, like fire and water, as long as NATO and Russia exist in this form, there will never be any alliance, or the states will cease to exist in this form, or Russia and this must be understood. In the 90s, the states took control of Russia, but in connection with with their moronism, they missed the situation out of control, now the task is to prevent the situation from repeating itself, and this is quite real, according to the Kremlin's actions, it is quite feasible.
  22. chenia
    chenia 13 August 2013 22: 15 New
    +4
    On "friendship" with NATO, we lost up to 60 million people and destroyed the economy, science, army, morality, etc. by purchasing Chinese jeans and gum.

    And they could have won the “hot” war (in Europe), with four times less losses (Ogarkov was right, these guys decided to use nuclear weapons).

    When dealing with them adhere to the next priority of the relationship.

    The first (best option) is the Cold War
    Second - "cold" world
    Third - "hot" war
    The fourth (worst case) is friendship and cooperation with them.
  23. Dyukha Siberian
    Dyukha Siberian 13 August 2013 23: 37 New
    +1
    do not believe the Danes who bring gifts! that now NATO countries have only obligations! like batteries to strengthen the states, but they themselves are running out! if they "recharge" something, then they will hint that they need to recharge) and they really need such a battery like Russia! and thank God it is not for sale !!!
    1. sad1940
      sad1940 13 August 2013 23: 48 New
      +2
      Quote: Dyukha Siberian
      and thank God it is not for sale !!!


      where did you get what is not for sale? For sale and how, only on the sly!
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  25. Dyukha Siberian
    Dyukha Siberian 14 August 2013 00: 04 New
    +1
    Quote: sad1940
    Quote: Dyukha Siberian
    and thank God it is not for sale !!!


    where did you get what is not for sale? For sale and how, only on the sly!

    aren't you buying?)
  26. kmike
    kmike 14 August 2013 04: 57 New
    +2
    What kind of designer this building is and what his tasks can be seen in the photo from the airplane. This clearly does not bring us any good. This is the headquarters of the US Navy.
  27. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 14 August 2013 05: 19 New
    0
    What Russia and NATO can and should do together to increase trust in each other and be more predictable


    To begin with, NATO must retreat into the "pre-perestroika" borders and apologize for the deception. The United States gave guarantees that NATO would not expand eastward.
    Sincerely.
  28. Jet blackbird
    Jet blackbird 14 August 2013 05: 50 New
    +1
    There is no NATO)) There are Americans and their European slaves)) It would be good to "discourage" the main Europeans (Eferge, France and Italy) from the desire to obey the Washington madhouse. It is necessary to turn on ideological propaganda at full power, you can save "billions of rubles"))
  29. Siberian
    Siberian 14 August 2013 06: 45 New
    0
    Quote: kmike
    What the designer of this building and what its tasks can be seen in the photo from the plane. It clearly does not bring us any good. This is the headquarters of the US Navy.

    The designer is clearly with a Nazi flavor.
  30. Siberian
    Siberian 14 August 2013 06: 57 New
    0
    Quote: Lech from ZATULINKI
    Improving relations between Russia and NATO is like making friends with a wolf pack.
    hehe he turned his back a little BEAR here the wolves by his ass and grab, something like this can be described.

    NATO and RUSSIA REALLY hehe. We are competitors with them. Just turn away and get a footrest from the drain.
  31. Horn
    Horn 14 August 2013 08: 09 New
    0
    Strange ... It turns out that "friendship", according to NATO and the United States, is when you stand up with cancer and pull your pants down. Then you will be "loved and friends" ...
  32. T-100
    T-100 14 August 2013 11: 10 New
    0
    The agenda of the meeting was devoted to a very important topic - strengthening trust between our country and the North Atlantic Alliance and increasing transparency, that is, openness in the military field.

    And then I realized that the meeting was not about anything))))