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The first scientific company took the oath

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In Voronezh, 35 took the oath of servicemen of the first scientific company established at the Military Scientific-Training Center of the Air Force - the Air Force Academy. As representatives of the Western Military District have told, in the future, soldiers of a scientific company will focus on design and research activities, which will be supervised by specially assigned teachers of the Air Force Academy.


The first scientific company took the oath


Among other things, the military will improve the system of automatic control and state control aviation technology, solving problems of electronic warfare, developing complexes for studying the dynamics of flight of aircraft with highly automated control systems, solving problems of protecting information, Interfax reports.

To perform military service in a scientific company will be gifted students of civilian universities, the scientific achievements of which may be useful for solving applied military tasks. Create a new unit some time ago, ordered the Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 5 August 2013 16: 20 New
    +6
    Among other things, the military will improve the automatic control system and means of monitoring the condition of aircraft, solving electronic warfare problems, developing complexes for studying flight dynamics of aircraft with highly automated control systems, and solving information protection problems,
    Isn't it too "cool" for a year of service, maybe somehow more modest and more realistic tasks should be set ...
    1. experienced
      experienced 5 August 2013 16: 22 New
      -1
      Um ... Schnick in the center of the plaque is not polished .... Where did the sergeants and officers look? And before there was goya paste
      1. Civil
        Civil 5 August 2013 16: 34 New
        +2
        Quote: seasoned
        Um ... Schnick in the center of the plaque is not polished .... Where did the sergeants and officers look?

        as always in RA, the badge needs to be cleaned up, but the diesel fuel in the park has been poured off all the equipment again ... maybe it’s good to go crazy, what kind of badge should go on the drum, what’s the main thing that WORK would go, and if you call it service, it’s education first of all. And the people after the demise of the linguistic will reach the army.
        1. experienced
          experienced 5 August 2013 16: 43 New
          +8
          Quote: Civil
          as always in RA, the badge needs to be cleaned, but the diesel fuel in the park with all the equipment was again drained ...

          I will fuck up diesel fuel in the warehouse, but discipline should be. The polished boots, the collar, the plaque ... The soldier begins with trifles, and only the Oath !!! Everything should be smoothed and polished here, if your birthmarks are not there, then you will come to your comrades ... And you disgrace the sacred action. IMHO hi
          He took the Oath in 1988 at the school, before that he had been taught by heart, ironed his uniform and cleaned his boots for 3 hours. Everything went with a bang !!! I wouldn’t suffer a hoopoe with an uncleaned badge next to me, and it wouldn’t be there, they all looked ... Once again I remember the cadets, but this is the Oath once in my life, imagine the groom in sweatshirts and slippers (but he can get married a hundred times, and the oath alone) hi
          1. svp67
            svp67 5 August 2013 17: 00 New
            +3
            Quote: seasoned
            I will fuck up diesel fuel in the warehouse, but discipline should be
            You shouldn't be so. The boy then desperately holds his chest with a wheel and immediately penetrated the moment, so not everything is lost with him, if only the commanders and bosses were smart. But they all do not look like "nerds" - blood and milk, more like a sports company ...
          2. Lopatov
            Lopatov 5 August 2013 17: 43 New
            +3
            They start from scratch. There is no life-giving supervision of senior comrades. I remember how, from the third year, before taking the oath, the ground dragged me suspenders so that my knees did not hang over my boots, and helped with chevrons. About four hours fiddling. Then I did the same.
            1. experienced
              experienced 5 August 2013 18: 09 New
              0
              Quote: Spade
              . I remember how, from the third year, before taking the oath, the ground dragged me suspenders so that my knees did not hang over my boots, and helped with chevrons. About four hours fiddling. Then I did the same.

              Well, what am I talking about? It's just that we are cadets and maybe the best conditions were ... But we prepared the parade all night before the Oath, in the morning there were three formations and we caught one with "strings" (from the cap the metal tape is cut to size and inserted into shoulder straps, shoulder straps are straight , not to bend, but “the service life is not supposed to.” The same frame, upon dismissal after the 1st course, sewed shoulder straps with a string, who knows, he understands what show on the parade ground was laughing
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 5 August 2013 18: 36 New
                +1
                We didn’t catch with strings. I myself had it, both at the parade and at the field (came under the times when the old Soviet epaulets were sewn onto the Afghan). With inserts from plastic bottles, yes.

                Conditions are not better, just senior comrades are not only hazing.
              2. domokl
                domokl 6 August 2013 07: 35 New
                0
                Quote: seasoned
                one of us with "strings" was caught

                In our epaulettes, cardboard boxes cut from the RPG-7D shot were inserted. The shoulder straps were not even, but curved ... Only the platoon commander, if he caught the problem, would solve a simple march-throw with a full calculation of 6 km ... Cartons broke fellow But anyway, he went beyond the territory, inserted ... beautifully. And the caps were worn at home ...
            2. svp67
              svp67 5 August 2013 18: 29 New
              +1
              Quote: Spade
              I remember how the earth from the third year ... Then I did the same.
              This is called continuity and tradition. What so diligently tried to destroy Serdyukov leapfrog cadet sets ...
          3. 12345
            12345 5 August 2013 19: 09 New
            +2
            Quote: seasoned
            A soldier begins with trifles ...


            And, this has its own "homespun truth"! There is...

            As our company commander used to say: "Treason to the Motherland begins with a poorly made bed."

            PS. About the plaque. They used to be brass. And the belts were made of genuine leather. Nowadays the belts are more and more - "shitty". And, therefore, the plaque may turn out to be made of painted aluminum.
            1. Col.
              Col. 6 August 2013 10: 40 New
              +1
              Quote: 12345
              About the badge.

              Come on, men, why are you clinging to a badge? Most likely in the photo on this plate the light falls from a different angle, so it does not reflect. Any photographer knows this ...
              1. Gato
                Gato 6 August 2013 11: 34 New
                +1
                Quote: Colonel
                Come on, men, why are you clinging to a badge?

                Really. It is written - these are scientific companies. These elephants move military science to unimaginable heights.
                They should generally have taken the oath in smithed white coats with arrows and polished test tubes and notebooks at the ready. laughing
      2. svp67
        svp67 5 August 2013 16: 51 New
        +9
        Quote: seasoned
        At hmm ... Schnick in the center of the plaque is not polished ....
        He doesn’t have copper, but steel in a protective color from field equipment, like a belt ... The guy who takes the oath and has his back to us is the same - tarpaulin, with leather substitute. The army is still carrying Soviet reserves ... There has been no Union for almost 20 years, but there are still reserves ...
        1. svp67
          svp67 5 August 2013 17: 25 New
          +8
          Here's a

          Unlike this

          1. Bort radist
            Bort radist 5 August 2013 19: 51 New
            +1
            Quote: svp67
            Unlike this

            In the second year of genuine leather, the belt got tight. Old men buckled themselves with an arc. At the noticed first-year-olds the buckle was unbent by blow on a stool. The hook used to bounce off such a procedure what That was a long time ago.
        2. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel 5 August 2013 17: 26 New
          +3
          Took off the tongue! This is a field plaque (which was given by the sergeant in the kapterka) and there is NO violation of the dress form!
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            1. military
              military 6 August 2013 10: 39 New
              0
              Quote: grafrozow
              To full dress and a field badge is not normal, it is a drink ....!

              good
              Quote: grafrozow
              white belts went to the party, those who came to the first post, and the plaque shone like a cat’s egg.

              By the way, the oath was taken precisely in white belts ...
        3. Combitor
          Combitor 6 August 2013 00: 18 New
          +1
          svp67 Today, 16: 51 ↑
          <The union has been gone for almost 20 years, but the reserves are still there ...>
          Far-sighted people at that time ruled the country and the Ministry of Defense, in particular. They predicted that the time would come when there would be a mess in the country. Have stockpiled for decades. Now use it. And when the reserves run out, we will begin to blame the Communists for not having enough reserves.
      3. fetus
        fetus 5 August 2013 17: 10 New
        +4
        Actually, it’s just painted green, now it’s a common thing, the question is why then not all of these badges.
      4. antiaircrafter
        antiaircrafter 5 August 2013 17: 39 New
        +2
        Quote: seasoned
        the plaque is not polished

        The plaque is colored.
        That is why the plaques are not uniform in the unit - this is a question for the Stash and the company.
        1. svp67
          svp67 5 August 2013 17: 46 New
          0
          Quote: antiaircrafter
          That is why the plaques are not uniform in the unit - this is a question for the Stash and the company.
          What is in stock is what they wear ... "form eight"
      5. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 5 August 2013 18: 59 New
        +2
        Quote: seasoned
        Um ... Schnick in the center of the plaque is not polished .... Where did the sergeants and officers look? And before there was goya paste

        Throughout the year, they will find a scientific plaque cleaning method, dynamic and highly automated.
        1. grafrozow
          grafrozow 5 August 2013 20: 45 New
          +1
          Quote: saturn.mmm
          Throughout the year, they will find a scientific plaque cleaning method, dynamic and highly automated.

          +++++ and nano asidol. Skolkovo is resting.
          1. Combitor
            Combitor 6 August 2013 00: 23 New
            +1
            grafrozow (2)
            <+++++ and nano asidol. Skolkovo is resting>
            They hit the very spot. Shoigu was not allowed to sleep by Vekselberg's laurels. So I decided to organize my own Skolkovo in the army.
      6. grafrozow
        grafrozow 5 August 2013 20: 28 New
        0
        Quote: seasoned
        Um ... Schnick in the center of the plaque is not polished .... Where did the sergeants and officers look? And before there was goya paste

        It’s not a royal thing, to poke around .... Generally, guys are tall, more like athletes than nerds.
      7. S-200
        S-200 5 August 2013 20: 32 New
        0
        "Why are the newbies taken into the army ?!" what
        laughing
      8. kmike
        kmike 5 August 2013 20: 34 New
        +1
        Correctly say "paste GOI" (STATE OPTICAL INSTITUTE). And he will learn how to clean the badge when he is given a copper badge, and not painted with green paint. God grant the guys a successful and useful service.
      9. domokl
        domokl 6 August 2013 07: 29 New
        0
        Quote: seasoned
        Where did sergeants and officers look? And before there was goya paste

        And you look at the form and everything will become clear ... The guys do not serve in the MO lol
    2. 1st_user
      1st_user 5 August 2013 18: 29 New
      0
      But it is possible that this year is only the beginning, so to speak, of studying the basics of military service (after all, students are from civilian universities, they first need to explain what military service is in general). And then - distribution by narrow specialties, and then the real military research work will begin.
    3. Aryan
      Aryan 5 August 2013 19: 08 New
      0
      sorry civil ignoramus, and military doctors give both the oath and the oath of Hippocrates?
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 5 August 2013 19: 12 New
        +1
        As far as I know, yes.
    4. Anat1974
      Anat1974 5 August 2013 21: 36 New
      0
      I agree. From the series: "And then Ostap suffered." The author probably went too far with antidepressants.
    5. Combitor
      Combitor 6 August 2013 00: 06 New
      0
      svp67 Today, 16: 20
      "Among other things, the servicemen will be engaged in improving the automatic control system and means of monitoring the state of aviation equipment, solving electronic warfare problems, developing complexes for studying the dynamics of aircraft flight with highly automated control systems, solving information protection tasks, Interfax reports>
      As far as I know, this type of activity should be paid for with a very high salary. But why pay money if you can call up for military service - let them work for free for a soldier's rations. And what kind of payment is the result. Faster if a year passed, and there - "the grass does not grow." What is not a "sharazhka", only about the updated Shoiguv version? Further, in a year of military service, "scientific" soldiers, with all their talent, are unlikely to be able to complete the research they have begun and invent something worthwhile. This lasts for years. And at the end of their "scientific service", the same soldiers are unlikely to want to stay in the army to continue their research. Then what is the use of all these "innovations" of the newly minted minister?
      It is more than likely that soon this "reform" of Shoigu will bring the same "results" as other earlier "reforms" of other "reformers." Zurabov, Golikova, Nurgaliev, Serdyukov ... Shoigu "reformed" the fire brigade. Now they put it on the army.
  2. Col.
    Col. 5 August 2013 16: 20 New
    11
    Insanity was strong ...
    One could take it with humor, but today is not April 1st. Well, isn't it insanity when we are told that ordinary soldiers, even if they are "gifted students", will solve the issues that state research institutes, special laboratories, hundreds of academicians, doctors of sciences, etc. have been dealing with for DECADES. How should we treat this? I personally have no normal words ..
    1. alone
      alone 5 August 2013 16: 26 New
      +5
      strange, because most recently the minister said that he was pleased with the work of the first scientific company, and now it turns out that they are only now taking the oath ... it’s not clear .. I’ll have to take 300 drops of Valerian.
    2. AK-47
      AK-47 5 August 2013 17: 28 New
      +2
      Quote: Colonel
      Insanity was strong ...

      Now we need to organize writing companies to write the right books, fiction, music, etc. "Grandfathers" will put work on stream!
      1. grafrozow
        grafrozow 5 August 2013 20: 50 New
        0
        Quote: AK-47
        Now we need to organize writing companies to write the right books, fiction, music, etc. "Grandfathers" will put work on stream!

        Already organized, will work in the archives, the fight against the falsification of history.
    3. zart_arn
      zart_arn 5 August 2013 18: 15 New
      +1
      Well, isn't it insanity when we are told that ordinary soldiers, even if they are "gifted students", will solve the issues that state research institutes, special laboratories, hundreds of academicians, doctors of sciences, etc. have been engaged in for DECADES.

      In general, those who are not standing next to R&D questions are running around with this idea like a written bag. Applied science is an industry where first of all experience is required. They (the new recruits) would first be assigned to an experienced mentor so that the eyes could open for life. Brilliant knowledge and talent in scientific work, as it may sound paradoxical, are extremely insufficient. And in this way you can do such things - Chernobyl will seem like a cracker.
    4. 1st_user
      1st_user 5 August 2013 18: 35 New
      0
      As I wrote above, this year is most likely just the beginning. After all, students from civilian universities, they need to show what a service in general is. But further on, it is precisely the work in the specialty.
      1. grafrozow
        grafrozow 5 August 2013 20: 53 New
        0
        Quote: 1st_user
        As I wrote above, this year is most likely just the beginning. After all, students from civilian universities, they need to show what a service in general is. But further on, it is precisely the work in the specialty.

        Dear, next he will go home-service ONE year. unless there is a cricket left.
  3. Bort radist
    Bort radist 5 August 2013 16: 27 New
    0
    Good luck, it's better than mowing and running.
  4. vadson
    vadson 5 August 2013 16: 31 New
    0
    the year is certainly not enough, but let's hope that the guys whose work the guys worked on take a closer look at the demobilization. Work should captivate and not spread rot. I hope the guys get carried away and will continue to work for the good of the homeland
    1. bask
      bask 5 August 2013 16: 48 New
      +2
      The first scientific company took the oath

      Oath under the dermocratic regime in Russia. 2013 sample.
      And in the USSR, find 10 differences.
    2. asadov
      asadov 5 August 2013 17: 11 New
      -1
      yeah, and live a lifetime crumbs and envy former classmates
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 5 August 2013 17: 35 New
        +2
        These "crumbs" are bigger than unemployment benefits, aren't they?
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      2. Gavrn
        Gavrn 5 August 2013 19: 02 New
        +1
        Tov, asadov, in research institutes, in those units that really work, do not receive crumbs at all.
  5. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 5 August 2013 17: 14 New
    0
    Let them serve ... After a year, let's see the result of their service .. If at least one of them innovates what he worked on, that’s plus a big one. (We have a lot of smart goals among young people) the main thing is to help ..interest And we’ll always have time to scold ..
  6. AK-47
    AK-47 5 August 2013 17: 19 New
    0
    Quote: Author
    In Voronezh, 35 servicemen of the first scientific company took the oath

    The soldiers will serve on the basis of the Military Training and Scientific Center of the Air Force "Air Force Academy named after Professor N.E. Zhukovsky and Yu.A. Gagarin. "
    In accordance with the weekly schedule of a scientific company, military personnel will study military sciences one day a week - tactics, fire and military engineering training. The bulk of their combat training will be replaced by design and scientific activities. Each of the soldiers has already been assigned a lecturer at the Air Force Academy, who will supervise his scientific activities on the stated topics. Lenta.ru
  7. maestro123
    maestro123 5 August 2013 17: 22 New
    +1
    Quote: seasoned
    Um ... Schnick in the center of the plaque is not polished .... Where did the sergeants and officers look? And before there was goya paste

    This is a green field plaque laughing
    They did not have time to take the oath, as it was time to think about the demobilization chord.
    Science does not have enough time to think, they will think at night.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 5 August 2013 17: 47 New
      0
      Could have found soldiers' harnesses, they have been "in service" for 15 years already.
      1. Djozz
        Djozz 5 August 2013 18: 16 New
        0
        Soldiers of the "Presidential Regiment" of the FSO and the 154th Regiment of the Armed Forces have harnesses
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 5 August 2013 18: 43 New
          +1
          And everyone is supposed to. We were immediately given them at 94. Dermantine black with a "chubby" buckle. Which, of course, we immediately replaced with old Soviet belts with a brass plate.
          1. Djozz
            Djozz 5 August 2013 18: 54 New
            0
            I'm talking about leather officer belts
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 5 August 2013 19: 02 New
              0
              And they differ only in material.
  8. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 5 August 2013 17: 29 New
    +2
    Quote: seasoned
    Um ... Schnick in the center of the plaque is not polished .... Where did the sergeants and officers look? And before there was goya paste

    What are you clinging to this badge winked , it can be seen, in comparison with the one next to it, that it is not at the right angle to reflect light.
    1. svp67
      svp67 5 August 2013 17: 49 New
      +1
      Quote: Yuri Ya.
      What are you clinging to this badge
      The usual army approach is war by war, but the plaques and boots should shine, otherwise MANDATORY ... am
  9. mirag2
    mirag2 5 August 2013 17: 35 New
    -1
    It is interesting, of course, how they will serve, generate new ideas and offer to implement them, or what?
  10. AK-47
    AK-47 5 August 2013 17: 37 New
    -1
    Quote: Colonel
    Insanity was strong ...

    They will introduce the "Day of the Nauchnorotnik" to instill pride in the years spent aimlessly. "Those who served near Voronezh" will remember their military exploits, measure themselves with tattoos and wipe out with a "well-aimed word" all those whose intelligence is below the level set by their comrade sergeant (and the medical board). Spectacled and eggheads will swim in fountains and fight in local markets that day.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 5 August 2013 18: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: AK-47
      measured by tattoos

      The most popular will be the portrait of Einstein. Well, next to the group and Rhesus will be tattooed IQ
      1. AK-47
        AK-47 5 August 2013 18: 14 New
        +1
        Quote: Spade
        Well, next to the group and Rhesus will be tattooed IQ

        + + + + + + + + + + + +
        One head is good, two is better.
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  12. Russ69
    Russ69 5 August 2013 17: 58 New
    +2
    Accepted and okay. The news is about nothing.
    If you had already figured out something like that. So that amers get sick, then a completely different matter. smile
  13. does it
    does it 5 August 2013 18: 07 New
    0
    Gifted students of civilian universities will perform military service in a scientific company
    And will they still want to serve! that is the question.
  14. Alexanderlaskov
    Alexanderlaskov 5 August 2013 18: 14 New
    -1
    It is difficult to judge this venture now.
  15. Djozz
    Djozz 5 August 2013 18: 22 New
    +2
    Who will decide the gifted recruit, or not, and who will be responsible for the "accidentally" caught in the company of the major (the son of a deputy, etc.) Py Si. Apparently the admissions office with a tomograph, for the illumination of the brain! As the doctor said from the movie "Formula of Love"; "The head is a dark object, not subject to research."
  16. waisson
    waisson 5 August 2013 18: 24 New
    +5
    all of course hehanki yes khahanki here to the badge there was a different shame to the elders and company companies, but I’m interested in another question would be better to publish a list of personnel and who for what merits got into a scientific company or is it again a nursery of mylit mother sons where they can sit out without straining but further leap in career growth and the guys from the farm as usual feed lice in the trenches (said for example)
    1. svp67
      svp67 5 August 2013 18: 40 New
      -1
      Quote: waisson
      it would be better to publish a list of personnel and who for what merits fell into the scientific company

      It is truth too. But I would also call from the senior courses of medical institutes into the army, so to speak for the annual military field practice, that would be even more sense.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 5 August 2013 18: 54 New
        0
        To smear green scuffs from shoes? "Military field practice" in peacetime can only be provided by work in an ambulance
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 5 August 2013 18: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: waisson
      all of course hehany yes hahanki here to the plate plowed

      Of course. Because the idea is stillborn.

      The correct idea is an annual deferral of young specialists working for a defense research institute, smoothly flowing into the reservation, if the researcher benefits.
      But this is not PR.
      1. servant.
        servant. 5 August 2013 19: 03 New
        0
        Quote: Spade
        But this is not PR.


        Yes, and the dough does not cut down ...
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 5 August 2013 19: 13 New
          0
          Yes, what loot here, a penny. Even the normal form was not found.
    3. Karabin
      Karabin 5 August 2013 20: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: waisson
      or is it again the nursery of the mother of sons

      The "elite" wives are very talented in business. Children, accordingly, are extremely smart. Scientific companies of such "soldiers" are worthy. But this is in perspective. The Voronezh company is still the first without them, after all. Pilot project, increased focus. Although...
  17. valokordin
    valokordin 5 August 2013 18: 44 New
    +3
    None of this swarm will come of it. These rare students, with rare exceptions, except for problems with discipline, will not create anything, they will not come up. In a year, it will be clear why they are needed. It takes experience to create, and they never even worked on the machine and will not be able to give out engineering solutions.
    1. Panikovsky
      Panikovsky 5 August 2013 19: 15 New
      0
      but I do not agree with you, uv.valokordin. let's see the distant results.
  18. Msergio
    Msergio 5 August 2013 18: 59 New
    +1
    Quote: seasoned
    And before there was goya paste

    Goya is a Spanish painter and engraver of the XNUMXth century.
    And GOI paste is a grinding paste based on chromium oxide,
    such a green pebble (from GOI - State Optical Institute).
  19. saber
    saber 5 August 2013 19: 01 New
    0
    Quote: seasoned
    Um ... Schnick in the center of the plaque is not polished .... Where did the sergeants and officers look? And before there was goya paste

    do you know him to say that he is a ... shnik? and GOI paste is called!
  20. quolta
    quolta 5 August 2013 19: 08 New
    +2
    Yes, crap probably with these scientific companies.
  21. Isk1984
    Isk1984 5 August 2013 19: 08 New
    0
    I drew attention to another, let's say that all strong guys are happy with the eyes, and many people think that the nerds are squishy, ​​these in the photo, at least in the scientific company, even in the assault, handyman
  22. Panikovsky
    Panikovsky 5 August 2013 19: 09 New
    +2
    I don’t know, guys, how distant results they say in medicine, they haven’t been tested yet, but the idea is not stupid, in any case, it seems to me like that. Well, it's worth a try. the road will be overpowered.
  23. Siberian
    Siberian 5 August 2013 19: 25 New
    +2
    Quote: Bort Radist
    Good luck, it's better than mowing and running.

    Yeah, at least a bit, a little bit at all, and smell the army service, and then not for nothing. And as for the scientific, what will they do for the scientist in a year. If only for the future, they’ll become some kind of military engineers. Even if two, three people from them, and then the result.
  24. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 5 August 2013 19: 53 New
    0
    And if you put them in charge of UAV control (young people are now in all sorts of assy simulators ..) .. We’ve got used to the real fighter even the sound of the steering wheel movement .. the horizon .. you feel it .. And if you control the UAV on the screen !! it’s already quite another .. For my son, I’m catching on the fly .. and he feels Claudia’s speed of the computer ..... analyzes the situation on the fly .. Here are such things .. I’m shocked sometimes .. Although I myself am not far from being a layman in these matters. .
  25. Panikovsky
    Panikovsky 5 August 2013 19: 59 New
    +1
    and you don’t need anything, Russian boys, you’re the most. Do not drink vodka, burn it with fire, take care of yourself.
  26. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 5 August 2013 20: 14 New
    0
    So guys, let's not scold them yet .. Good idea .. and the selection should be tough and not according to physical characteristics .. the main desire to study was also a patriot of the Motherland .. (We don’t need snowdenes ..) Maybe from these small mouths Korolev the future will grow .. (we dreamed about space ..)
  27. alone
    alone 5 August 2013 20: 16 New
    0
    It would not hurt to check who serves in scientific companies, so that later it does not become clear that these are the children of officials.
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 5 August 2013 20: 56 New
      0
      Quote: lonely
      It would not hurt to check who serves in scientific companies, so that later it does not become clear that these are the children of officials.

      Yes, that you all worry about the children of officials there, they would be chocolate-free even without those mouths.
    2. Panikovsky
      Panikovsky 7 August 2013 19: 30 New
      0
      I do not think the children of officials are the children of Martians, or some other freaks. and on our site there are normal working people, and their children are normal hard workers.
  28. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 5 August 2013 20: 21 New
    +2
    In Suvorov schools you need to create these scientific companies .. (It all starts with childhood impressions .. about rockets planes .. etc.)
  29. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 5 August 2013 20: 25 New
    0
    I’ll tell my daughter that the machine would not be canned until everything is clear.
  30. mole
    mole 5 August 2013 20: 57 New
    +1
    A fait accompli - neither a plus nor a minus. Life will show! The positive thing in this story is an attempt to do something useful, although in my opinion it is still more useful to MISTER Taburetkin from a MO official car to a private one.
    Quote from the commentary on the article "Under Shoigu, queues began to form in the army" from ded_73 (1)  Today, 15:42


    "Shoigu allowed Serdyukov to ride with a" flashing light "
    Mercedes remain behind ex-minister
    Former Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Anatoly Serdyukov, dismissed after a scandal with millions of thefts, continues to use the official car of the Ministry of Defense with special signals.
    The former Minister of Defense uses a company car on a common basis, which covers the category of people who have merit to the military department, RBC reports on Monday, citing publications in the Russian press.
    “The official car is indeed at the disposal of the former Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov,” says an officer of the Main Armored Directorate. He told the newspaper that by his order Shoigu gave Serdyukov the right to use the department's car equipped with special signals. "(Http://www.mk.ru/politics/article/2013/08/05/894436-shoygu-razreshil-serdyukovu

    -ezdit-s-migalkoy.html).
    Probably in order to be in line first. Do not be late, so to speak ...
  31. Siberian
    Siberian 5 August 2013 21: 09 New
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    Quote: Mole
    A fait accompli - neither a plus nor a minus. Life will show! The positive thing in this story is an attempt to do something useful, although in my opinion it is still more useful to MISTER Taburetkin from a MO official car to a private one.
    Quote from the commentary on the article "Under Shoigu, queues began to form in the army" from ded_73 (1)  Today, 15:42


    "Shoigu allowed Serdyukov to ride with a" flashing light "
    Mercedes remain behind ex-minister
    Former Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Anatoly Serdyukov, dismissed after a scandal with millions of thefts, continues to use the official car of the Ministry of Defense with special signals.
    The former Minister of Defense uses a company car on a common basis, which covers the category of people who have merit to the military department, RBC reports on Monday, citing publications in the Russian press.
    “The official car is indeed at the disposal of the former Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov,” says an officer of the Main Armored Directorate. He told the newspaper that by his order Shoigu gave Serdyukov the right to use the department's car equipped with special signals. "(Http://www.mk.ru/politics/article/2013/08/05/894436-shoygu-razreshil-serdyukovu


    -ezdit-s-migalkoy.html).
    Probably in order to be in line first. Do not be late, so to speak ...

    He would not be in a Mercedes, but in a lawn "ZK" with a flashing light for at least 15 years.
  32. Siberian
    Siberian 5 August 2013 22: 00 New
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    But the fact that they have different buckles is certainly a trifle. But it speaks of a household mess. It’s as if they all pulled them on in a hurry. Someone who served in the army knows when the review takes place, or even more so the oath, everyone should be one to one , without any inconsistency. That the view was appropriate, but not like a bastard.
  33. Vladimir-35136
    Vladimir-35136 5 August 2013 23: 03 New
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    Here it is necessary to call for three years as a civilian service.
  34. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 6 August 2013 10: 06 New
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    The plaque is field, the rest is parade ... In our battalion there were plaques both field and brass with a star and brass without drawings. The last demobilization was appreciated, since it was possible to solder the officer tulle from the cap on them. They issued what was lying in the warehouse.
    And on the topic, I think, it’s too early to judge. Let them serve, work, look at the results. As you know, chickens are considered in the fall.
    hi
  35. roial
    roial 6 August 2013 12: 45 New
    +1
    Well, if they have different badges, what kind of equipment do they have there ???
    Probably all the trash in the troops was collected for entourage and create visibility.

    "Among other things, the servicemen will be engaged in improving the automatic control system and means of monitoring the state of aviation equipment, solving electronic warfare problems, developing complexes for studying the dynamics of aircraft flight with highly automated control systems, and solving information protection problems."

    I’m engaged in the operation of automated control systems and information protection, but I myself drove into how it all works for at least a year, and here for a year they want these guys to improve something there - it’s just ridiculous, the army has its own specifics and technology that doesn’t stand close to the civilian how do these salabons know about her ????
    WHAT will they improve there ?? Even having no idea how it all works. And to study, they need access to state secrets that they will draw up for three months, well, half a year to study what and how it works (at the top) and THREE MONTHS for know-how.

    Funny.
  36. 1961NNN
    1961NNN 6 August 2013 13: 22 New
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    Bullshit ... look who is driving this ... State Secretary - Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation PANKOV! Chekist - he does not know and does not understand the army ... the fruits of his activities under Serdyuk are known ... reduction of the officer corps ... the results are known!
  37. 311ove
    311ove 6 August 2013 14: 51 New
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    Hm! Aviation against the background of armor ..... Judging by the look of the fathers, the commanders with a change from the word scientific right according to Peter decided, "the subordinate should look dashing and silly, so that his mind does not embarrass his superiors" somehow I cannot vouch for the accuracy. But to justify the mess ..... that would be a badge yes .... from the foreman and above !!! The oath is even written with a capital letter! And it's not a problem for a fighter, but for those who prepared all this. Yes, and the question immediately arises, de Yudashkinskoe ??! Where are the billions, maybe it’s worth counting them to a heap, so that the Stool would be at least a little bit enough ???