Bulk on the liberal iconostasis, or Prosecutors, gifts bringing (Review of the reactions of different parties)

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Let's see that now, as they say, in the "advanced" trend. In the trend, shouting that instead of Russian sportsmen-students at the Universiade in Kazan, either cyborg, or newcomers, or shaved snow-covered “people” performed. In the trend to declare that Snowden must necessarily be given out to the United States in order not to harm Russian-American friendship (why, sorry? ..) In the trend to argue about the urgent need to legalize same-sex marriage in Russia. In the trend, it is pious to believe that the “Magnitsky Act” is aimed exclusively at Russian corrupt officials from among federal and regional officials.

But since July, in the liberal sector of Russia and the entire “progressive” part of the planet, a new trend: to stigmatize the sentence of the Kirov court, which “closed” the former adviser to the Kirov governor, the current candidate for mayor of Moscow, the constant torch of the all-Russian (as he positions himself) -systematic opposition Alexei Anatolyevich Navalny for a five-year term with the need to serve this term in a penal colony. At first he “closed”, then released on his own recognizance, no less, at the request of the public prosecutor ... “Ceremonial” release from custody was allegedly due to the fact that the very taking into custody before the sentence comes into legal force violate the right to vote of Mr. Navalny as a candidate for mayor of the capital. In general, Daria Dontsova with her intricate detective stories, as they say, nervously smokes on the sidelines ...

For a couple with Navalny, Peter Ofitserov (general director of VLK) was also sentenced to a real term, who, obviously, during the announcement of the real prison sentence, thought: why the hell did I get in touch with Alexey Anatolyevich ... On what grounds were they released from - The guards of Ofitserov are a mystery, for he seems to be not running for mayor of Moscow ...

However, the officers of the liberal public and even more so the Western "comrades" are of little interest, and therefore the whole emphasis on waving their fists fell on the verdict against Navalny. In the cities of Russia on Thursday evening (on the day of the announcement of the sentence) in the parks and squares among the people who went for a walk with children and four-legged friends, “fighters for justice” appeared. The wrestlers differed from the rest in one nuance: posters in the style of “Putin is afraid of Navalny” or “Freedom to political prisoners” were hung on their necks. Of course, I was scared ... To support Assad is not, Snowden in Russia is not to keep, the anti-magnetic law to sign is also not, but you understand, I was afraid of Navalny ... So I told the Kirov judge: Blinov, I'm afraid of this Navalny ka him "five" ...

These “freedom fighters” (wrestlers are commoners) somehow conjugate 16 million-theft from the political component ... Apparently, where theft goes through the millionth (billionth) bar, the field of “political persecution” begins. If so, then we even have Ms. Vasilieva and others like her have every chance to get a non-system-opposition status of "persecuted for political reasons". I stole it from the state - I let the money down (some on brunettes, some on opposition “festivities” - sat - everything! - a political prisoner! Also one of the new trends ...
We present to your attention a selection of materials that appeared in the Russian and foreign media regarding the sentence imposed on Alexei Navalny.

TV channel N24 and personally Christoph Wanner (Germany):
In Russia, the affairs of those who publicly dare to become an opponent of the Kremlin are really bad. We do not know where Russia is going, which is becoming, objectively speaking, more and more authoritarian.


Well, of course, they are bad ... Oh, how bad they are for Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev, who, for the collapse of the USSR and the criticism of the restoration of Russia's support, is even being given the highest state awards. Of course, it’s bad when ex-premier Mikhail Kasyanov and ex-vice-premier Boris Nemtsov, receiving foreign funding (they are pushing themselves behind him) feel at ease, throwing mud at not only Russian authorities, but frankly translating into the status of idiots the majority of the Russian population only for the fact that this part, you see, voted for the same Putin.

Our friend" Senator John McCain:
The conviction of the Russian anti-corruption activist Alexei Navalny is not only a complete farce, but also a deeply tragic event, especially for Russia.


A good fighter ... If in Russia, in order to fight corruption, you must first replenish your account with 16 "lemons" with stolen money, then this struggle gives a tatty smell ... Recall that Alexei Navalny became known to the public for his project "RosPil", in which branded corrupt officials on what the world is worth. In addition, Navalny is the author of the acclaimed abbreviation "PZhiV". And Navalny repeatedly found himself in the courtroom, but surprisingly left it, slightly shaking it off - without any negative consequences for himself. Of course, a complete farce, and you can't say differently ...

Another "friend" of Russia (the author of the "Magnitsky Act") Benjamin cardin (senator):
The current political conviction of Alexei Navalny shows that Russia continues to turn to the dark times of the Soviet Union, when the courts were a tool of tyranny, and not legitimate defenders of the rule of law.


Well, we know that the most correct courts in the United States. After all, only US courts can accuse a person of trade weapons and throw in jail for many years, after watching the militants. Only American courts can justify a person who locked up a foster child on 40-degree heat in a car, where he died. Only in the USA can the judicial system prey on people who have told the world the truth about the dirty work of Western intelligence agencies. Where are our courts to the US! And only in American prisons you can get without any trial or investigation (Guantanamo - as an example).

Sky News (United Kingdom), Katie Stallard calls the verdict of Navalny "the morning tragedy." Next, faint of heart, please move away from their monitors or "scroll" page a little lower (author's note).

This is a young father who has already said goodbye to children. He said that he had come to court with slippers and clothes, which he would take in prison if he was found guilty. His wife is next to him in court. She listens to all this with a bowed head.


Indeed, the tragedy ... It would be better if Alexei Navalny prepared his slippers at the moment when he published fake materials on his blog about how allegedly columns of army armored vehicles enter Saratovsky Pugachev. For some reason, the British correspondents did not see the tragedies here ...

Great-grandmother of the Russian opposition Lyudmila Alekseeva declares that with the sentence of Alexei Navalny, Russia discards itself during the USSR (not the same sheet with the text used by Senator Cardin, fell into the hands of Lyudmila Mikhailovna - author's note) ... At the same time, Mrs. Alekseeva urges the West to fight against the fact that today happening in Russia.

Who would doubt what great-grandmother Lyudmila would call for ... This is one of her immediate responsibilities. In 1991, it must be admitted, Lyudmila Mikhailovna fulfilled the investment in herself in full. It is a pity, only the order in the entire chest was not given. Although, perhaps, we just do not know about this.

Also, the US Department of State, members of the European Commission and even the President of Estonia personally expressed their extreme concern about the verdict. mr Ilves:

I am outraged. Today’s sentence leaves the impression of a politically motivated court in Russia.


In the cohort of the perturbed it turned out and Mikhail Saakashvili:

Today, by decision of the Russian court, Alexei Navalny was arrested on charges of fraud. The conviction of the main fighter against corruption and fraud by the Putin regime is a classic manifestation of the cynicism of today's official Russia ... I express great indignation at the unfair arrest of a Russian civil activist.


The overall impression is that the same text was centrally sent to all the “victorious democracies” of the world, and the task of the heads (and other representatives) of these democracies was only to dilute the textual information with additional keywords from the set: cynicism, return to Soviet era, authoritarianism, the political process, corruption, the Putin regime, and so on.

However, it is not necessary to think that the world community (with its internal Russian segment) was covered by exceptional paranoia about the sentence to the forester and the oppositionist. There are those publications (including foreign ones) that are not inclined to approach a court decision regarding Navalny with an exceptionally negative emotionality, forgetting about the very essence of the accusation.

In particular, the French journalist Pierre Lorrain urges his compatriots not to fall into hysterics about the "politicization" of the process over Navalny, but to take a closer look at the documents on the case of embezzlement in Kirovles. Lorrain is sure that the documents are clear proof of Navalny’s guilt, and those who are trying to get a politician involved are not at all familiar with the case.

Honestly, this time surprised magazine "Forbes"which somehow fell out of the general trend and told (in the material of Mark Adomanis) that it was Navalny that a few days earlier with his lie almost provoked a bloody massacre in the Saratov region (what we said above). Adomanis, not without irony, calls Navalny "a beloved liberal," who actually endorses the split of Russia with the secession of the North Caucasus, which he openly calls for with his "materials".

Mikhail Leontiev decided this time to speak out in the spirit of the fact that the current government with Navalny clearly overdone. According to Mikhail, for Navalny, serving time in the “dungeons of the regime” will benefit: he will gain strength, reach, quote: “the milky-wax ripeness of the opposition leader”. They say that the government thereby inserts itself into the wheels at the level of a certain political masochism.

Well, to comment on this point of view is difficult. After all, it turns out that the Kirov court had to justify Navalny for his theft — this is one time, or the investigation shouldn’t have been distributed initially, that the Navalny comrades were tyrili and the money was putting themselves in a pocket — these are two.

But the theft has spread, and after that it’s somehow stupid to back down. What is the bust, if we take this case as an ordinary criminal? - unclear. If we take it as a political a priori, then Mikhail is probably right. But only to accept this business as such - by putting down Putin’s accounts with Navalny - somehow, neither the hand nor the tongue is raised. Different levels of person ...

And by and large: why is it so much attention to Navalny? .. Even from state prosecutors, who first themselves declared the need to restrict freedom in the courtroom, and then suddenly suddenly imbued with a feeling of ineradicable humanity that descended from somewhere. But we have such loggers as truth-workers and a small truck. Nothing - let them pogomonyat (this is about the liberal masses), they will let off steam, sweat (this is useful in summer) and calm down (prosecutors out, and they help - a sort of psychological relief service).
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  1. +33
    20 July 2013 06: 19
    I think Navalny became an oppositionist because he stepped aside and wanted to be given less in court, which in the West is considered politically motivated. That is, it was not the politician who was tried for theft, but the thief was given a lenient sentence because he became a politician.
    1. +15
      20 July 2013 06: 25
      But it seems to me that he is just bored stupidly stealing, it is necessary in politics yet. What an infuriating subject ... You need to shoot such violent heads.
      1. +17
        20 July 2013 08: 07
        Quote: Alexej
        And it seems to me that he’s just bored stupidly stealing, it’s necessary in politics

        To steal even more .... Yes The loyalty of the supervisory authority kills on the spot. Dom-2 is just a cartoon compared to this "TV series"
        1. Karabu
          +22
          20 July 2013 11: 11
          Quote: Tersky
          To steal even more ....

          quickly you forgot Putin's favorite Serdyukov. A bulk bug next to it. and it’s not the case with Navalny. I personally parallel his opposition and his fate as a whole. it became obvious that our court is as selective and corrupt as the government itself. and Mr. Pu, at the slightest threat of his sole power, he will condemn and imprison anyone. even Christ the God.
          then we are surprised. and why do we have no one to choose?
          1. +19
            20 July 2013 12: 29
            Quote: Karabu
            Bulk bug next to it

            Small bug - yes stinky)
            1. Slav
              +3
              21 July 2013 09: 44
              I completely agree with this statement.
          2. +6
            20 July 2013 12: 50
            Quote: Karabu
            quickly you forgot Putin's favorite Serdyukov.

            Vlad, where in my post did you see the forgetfulness about the favorite? According to Serdyukov, that there is already an official message from the Investigative Committee that it has been declared innocent and the Oboronsrevis case closed? winked ?
            Quote: Karabu
            it became obvious that our court is as selective and corrupt as the government itself.
            , I think we don’t have disagreements on this issue, the only thing I don’t agree with is that it became obvious, This has been known for a long time, and the case with Navalny is another confirmation.
            Quote: Karabu
            then we are surprised. and why do we have no one to choose?
            I already wrote that we have an "amazing" state ... From now on, choose a more appropriate post for your comment, or read it carefully. Good luck.
            1. Karabu
              +4
              20 July 2013 15: 12
              Quote: Tersky
              From now on, choose a more suitable post for comment, or read it carefully. Good luck.

              no offense. I turned to all the jubilant generals. the clown will be planted. to hell with it. but why does the prosecutor’s office and the court work for us only on order ??? the main thing is that the thieves will be further strengthened in their impunity. the main thing is to unfasten the tax to the tsar - and do what I want!
              "We've got a kind of democracy - in fact, a kingdom
              I love my country so much and I hate the state "
          3. +5
            20 July 2013 19: 58
            I fully agree with Karabu! Now everyone has pounced, yelling, they say, Bulk thief, stole everything, and so on. , etc. ... Does anyone know the essence of the matter? What was the term for? no ! Only by hearsay from the news of Channel One, Vesti and NTV. The most interesting . that all the reports are similar, like a carbon copy. It became interesting to me, and I called a friend in Kirov. He is far from politics, he is indifferent to all parties, both pro-government and opposition. And he said that everyone in Kirov laughs about this trial. That a person was convicted for what he did not do, but only because he does not allow officials to live. And Putin has nothing to do with it (well, if only a small share), but the whole snag is in the officials, whom Navalny got with his revelations. Everything is very simple . Nobody has yet canceled the verdict on the phone call. Yes, and it was funny when in the news on the Internet, you read how the prosecution listens to all the prosecution's witnesses, and all the arguments of the defense, defense witnesses, examinations carried out by the defense, films provided by the defense are not even considered. This is a mess. I, personally, do not care about this Navalny, but I do not care about the chaos. It is the law for everyone. And for the stealing officials, oppositionists, but for everyone, and not selectively. And then Serdyukov is a witness, and Navalny is a thief. everything is sewn with white thread, gentlemen!
            1. Ka3ak
              0
              21 July 2013 00: 37
              Not any of this court cassation appeal to the teeth and forward, that is, upward, until the ECHR. If everything is so crystal clear I don't see any problems. Mister "we are your Kremlin chatel" all around in positive territory! Also political devidents will cut their hair!
            2. +3
              21 July 2013 06: 41
              starshina78 Yesterday, 19:58 ↑ You suggested an interesting idea. And what if on the pages of the site we organize the collection of signatures for the nomination of Serdyukov to the post, for example, of the President of the Russian Federation ("pretend", of course). The Kremlin will then be scared and Serdyukov will be quickly dealt with. And then, as in the tale of the donkey and the sultan turns out. Neither we nor Serdyukov will live to see the announcement of the verdict over him and landing.
          4. 0
            20 July 2013 20: 11
            Just for information: a criminal case on embezzlement in Kirovles was opened in 2009. Such cases do not develop quickly. The case was opened before the "career" of bulk. In my opinion, with his greed and stupidity, he got a lot of the "elite" of Vyatka. After the opening of the criminal case, I went to Yale. Further is clear?
            1. +5
              21 July 2013 00: 25
              Oh yeah. "Business" is not done quickly with us. And so Navalny's case would have remained in the storeroom, if he had not gone across the "father". Probably, similar cases exist for all well-known politicians, businessmen, oppositionists. But, for the time being, they are not realized.
        2. +4
          20 July 2013 11: 17
          Quote: Tersky
          To steal even more.

          This is greed!
        3. +8
          21 July 2013 00: 16
          Quote: Tersky
          I think

          But nothing seems to me. Because I don’t know anything. I mean, I don’t know the truth. And I don’t know. It is only strange that there are a lot of large-scale thieves, and criminal cases begin to concoct and condemn only those who are against the government. You can steal, if only thieves did not oppose the state and bureaucratic authorities.
          Something, however, and it seems to me. Namely, that the thief Serdyukov will never be convicted or imprisoned. After all, he is "his" thief.
          1. 0
            22 July 2013 10: 40
            So after all, they plant not what they steal, but what they come across. hi
        4. Ka3ak
          +1
          21 July 2013 00: 31
          Everything is simpler, first you want money, then fame, then power ...
      2. +16
        20 July 2013 10: 20
        no, it’s just at the top of the 90s lads - an honest person in a cemetery or in a strict regime colony ...
        and the Moscow Region prosecutors were released, and the stools had nothing to do with it ...
        1. 0
          20 July 2013 11: 18
          Quote: vezunchik
          no, it’s just at the top of the 90s lads - an honest person in a cemetery or in a strict regime colony ...

          This is an inferiority complex.
      3. +1
        20 July 2013 11: 17
        Quote: Alexej
        And it seems to me that he’s just bored stupidly stealing, it’s necessary in politics

        This is megalomania.
        1. +8
          20 July 2013 12: 07
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          This is greed!

          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          This is an inferiority complex.

          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          This is megalomania.

          Sasha, it’s easier to list the seven deadly sins, the ten commandments, in fact, there’s a full complement of deeds there Yes
      4. AVV
        +2
        20 July 2013 14: 29
        But he doesn’t care how, or how to make money, in Kirov Forest, or in the post office of Russia, and with the State Department he can do quite well, like a sheep’s wool coat! Yes, he’s also gathered in the mayors of the capital !!! if it is tight, then it can be a lawyer! New Ostap-Bender! Money lies around them, you only need to be able to take it !!!
      5. Shoma-1970
        -4
        20 July 2013 16: 02
        Yes, you lay down on this Anal, it is not worth it to talk so much about him! Bastrykin started everything, he is interested, and besides, he set the president (image) in front of the people, with his games.
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          1. YuDDP
            +3
            20 July 2013 23: 08
            I put a minus article. Not for the plot about Navalny, but for the manner of presentation: only Volodin's bile is visible.
            Actually, as in almost all of his articles.
            It is a pity that the authorship of the article can be seen only at the end.
            1. Shoma-1970
              0
              21 July 2013 01: 17
              I meant about my statement, in other matters, there’s nothing wrong with that either. hi
      6. +2
        21 July 2013 01: 15
        Such leaders can incite their "volunteers" to riots that can end (God forbid) in blood. This is not a joke. Stoned are capable of any meanness.
      7. sergaivenski
        0
        21 July 2013 04: 37
        In our country, Russia, it has become fashionable: first to put your paw into the treasury, and then to climb into the position of the sovereign !!! This is what happened to Mr. Navalny. For some reason, no one in this world is interested in the Check Investment Fund, created by Mr. Torkhov, still operating legally in the city of Izhevsk. This Fund, under the guise of ordinary ordinary shareholders, grabbed money, which is quite enough for the comfortable existence of the new President of the Fund, Mr. Sivachev, and "pocket" government.
        The most interesting thing is that: 1). ordinary shareholders have never (since 1993 !!!) received the promised dividends !!! 2). The pocket auditing company "Victor" does not find any violations in the activities of the Fund at all !!! The fool understands: everything was decided and solved by a lot of money !!! As in the case with Mr. Navalny !!!
    2. +2
      20 July 2013 06: 25
      Sophistry Pastor! wassat
      1. +12
        20 July 2013 08: 30
        Quote: Ruslan67
        Sophistry Pastor!

        Ruslan, hi ! Here I am catching up, no matter how I break my brains, we have a law at the level of absurdity or legalized absurdity. wassat Actually, from a change of place ......
        1. +4
          20 July 2013 09: 06
          Quote: Tersky
          Actually, from a change of place ......

          But not a damn fellow moderator-Kremlin -Nizhny Tagil Or vice versa what request wassat
        2. Shoma-1970
          -3
          21 July 2013 01: 23
          Absolutely right! from changing places, our laws do not change and so far remain absurd, but it’s certain that today the president is not happy with these shocks, it seems that some will lose their heads if they don’t have a head then they’ll have to. I'd love to!
    3. +1
      20 July 2013 06: 32
      Quote: Canep
      became an opposition because he steal and wanted
      That's it, something like deputy indulgence!
      It somehow reminds traitors, screaming that they are not for eating, but only for beliefs
    4. 0
      20 July 2013 08: 21
      Bulk had to bang right away.
      1. +7
        20 July 2013 13: 02
        Quote: Deniska999
        Bulk had to bang right away.

        Why let him go to the mayoral election of Moscow then and it will be seen for whom Moscow? and according to the election results, the Russian leadership will need to make organizational conclusions.
        1. +6
          20 July 2013 21: 25
          Quote: Semurg
          then it will be seen for whom Moscow?

          they in any situation will not know if there is life beyond the Moscow Ring Road
      2. sergaivenski
        0
        21 July 2013 04: 40
        Why? A new one will be drawn !!!
    5. -7
      20 July 2013 08: 31
      Hmm, before the site was pro-Putin, and the people seemed to support the power and were against the liberals, but now it’s not possible to understand whether it’s against the liberals or against Putin ....
      1. +11
        20 July 2013 08: 36
        Quote: Civil
        Hmm, before the site was pro-Putin, and the people seemed to support the power and were against the liberals, but now it’s not possible to understand whether it’s against the liberals or against Putin ....

        And you yourself have decided?
        1. +10
          20 July 2013 08: 41
          Quote: Tersky
          And you yourself have decided?

          Hi Victor hi It has always been amazing how people tend to put labels. I, for example, give a fuck about which site and who and what is "pushing" here, I like the content, I read and think that the mind is added, and who and what is "dissolving" absolutely do not care. Well, the possibility of drinking beer with Romanov and Apollo takes place laughing
          1. +7
            20 July 2013 09: 05
            Quote: seasoned
            Always struck by the desire of people to put labels

            Alex, hi , ours to you! I agree! Labeling is essentially replacing some concepts with others, wink.
          2. +5
            20 July 2013 09: 22
            Quote: seasoned
            Well, the possibility of a beer with Romanov and Apollo to drink takes place

            I am only cognac! request Wait bully
            1. +2
              20 July 2013 09: 26
              Quote: Ruslan67
              Wait

              Waiting for drinks wassat
              1. +1
                20 July 2013 09: 29
                Quote: seasoned
                Waiting for

                From 16 to 18 will appear drinks
                1. +2
                  20 July 2013 11: 20
                  Quote: Ruslan67
                  From 16 to 18 will appear

                  What are you, I have 18 of yours this is 1 night of mine am
                  1. +2
                    20 July 2013 12: 03
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    What are you, I have 18 of yours this is 1 night of mine

                    Hi Sasha! laughing ! Given the difference in time zones, you can start earlier, but at 16 00, (in Moscow, of course), presence at the event, ( drinks ), necessarily in any state, examples of state-wassat belay , laughing , feel , crying , fellow , tongue . with the exception of - fool
                    1. 0
                      20 July 2013 12: 40
                      Quote: Tersky
                      Given the difference in time zones, you can start earlier, but at 16 00, (in Moscow, of course), presence at the event, (), is required in any condition

                      As at 16 00, now they’ve already rolled with a spender, he’s out and almost full, I feel that I won’t last until 16 00 lol
                      Victor drinks
                      1. +3
                        20 July 2013 14: 46
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        I feel sho until 16 00 I will not last

                        Reducing the dose laughing !
                      2. +3
                        20 July 2013 20: 46
                        Quote: Tersky
                        Reducing the dose of laughing!

                        It seems he did not reduce request As promised, I drew before even 18, and nobody what They broke it off again negative
          3. +4
            20 July 2013 12: 21
            I’m for Russia
            1. +5
              20 July 2013 12: 41
              Quote: Civil
              I’m for Russia

              And who is here for America laughing
      2. +5
        20 July 2013 10: 24
        By the way, a survey on the site was conducted and the results were sent - GDP fell significantly over the year ... and the lower three were determined - Yeltsin Gorbachev Medvedev
      3. +18
        20 July 2013 12: 17
        Quote: Civil
        , and now it’s not possible to understand whether it’s for the Liberests or against Putin ....

        I stand on the pavement, I'm shod in skis ...
        Either licks do not go, or I .... request

        Why lock this empty thief and screamer into a cage for one night, from which later in the morning they release it no less safely — it still remains a mysterious and alluring secret for me personally. Once again, wisdom has just been confirmed once again - the law is that it draws where it turned and left.
        1. shpuntik
          +3
          20 July 2013 13: 20
          Marshal
          Ascetic SU Today, 12:17 ↑
          Why lock this empty thief and screamer into a cage for one night, from which later in the morning they release it no less safely — it still remains a mysterious and alluring secret for me personally. Once again, wisdom has just been confirmed once again - the law is that it draws where it turned and left.

          "Raven crows, eyes will not peck out." I had a feeling that two groups were opposed, and recently, unexpectedly, I found confirmation of my thoughts :-)
          It is believed that Sephardic and Ashkenazi confront each other. Here's the link:
          http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/983849/
          In my opinion, this also confirms that for Kvachkova, Alekseeva did not even say a word with her cohort, but they marched for Navalny in an organized manner. Even on RBC (channel about the economy Yes ), Vittel masterly for Cheeky stuck lol .
          1. Dober
            +4
            20 July 2013 22: 48
            Quote: shpuntik
            I had a feeling that two groups were opposing, but recently, unexpectedly, I found confirmation of my thoughts

            In Germany, Roman, for those who are able to analyze the reasons for the outbreak of the war between the Germans and the USSR, this is the "open secret".
            But it is forbidden to think "out loud" about it. Only those who came from Poland, Ukraine and Russia do not care about this "ban". It is against them that "laws on the inadmissibility of revisionism" are being created. And the locals have long feared Jews more than the Red Army in 45. Say "the echoes of the war" and in the opinion of many - REVENGE for the unfulfilled before "those who invested in Hitlerism", but did not end up with a fat kosher chicken called Russia ...
            1. shpuntik
              +2
              21 July 2013 16: 16
              Dober RU Yesterday, 22:48 ↑
              Say "the echoes of the war" and in the opinion of many - REVENGE for the unfulfilled before "those who invested in Hitlerism", but did not end up with a fat kosher chicken called Russia ...

              Cool you wrapped up ... Respect. I have not been to Germany, unfortunately, but an interesting video came across not so long ago, it says about a company, not the country "Germany".

              PS It’s a shame to be terrible for Russian interviewers: at the very beginning, a person says that he lived until the age of 16 in the Volga region, and now he’s already in Germany for 17 years, this one asks immediately how old he was when he left! Just a masterpiece of moronism ... Maybe it's from beer, such a carelessness? Honestly, what will he think of us?
        2. optimist
          +5
          20 July 2013 15: 22
          Quote: Ascetic
          Why lock this empty thief and screamer into a cage for one night, from which later in the morning they release it no less safely — it still remains a mysterious and alluring secret for me personally.

          Personally, it seems to me that this is a banal show for a used person. The authorities themselves "appointed" the "opposition Era", they themselves "pacify" him. Or is it just overseas owners scare the one who has gone too far, so that he is not too borzel. Navalny-2013, is Kerensky-1917. Both are trivial "foam" that will be washed away by the coming of the next Lenin. And the authorities quietly imprison real oppositionists in closed court sessions (Kvachkov, Khabarov).
          1. Dober
            +1
            20 July 2013 22: 26
            Quote: optimist
            which will be washed away by the arrival of the next Lenin.

            And come all pi ** ets inevitable! And it is unlikely that we will wait for the arrival of Stalin, who will clear the Kagtava people, headed by the form.
            This (the arrival of the "Leninists") is awaited by some with rapture as an opportunity for revenge. Russia is at stake.
            And while the enta mummy is still on the main square of Russia - the RENAISSANCE cannot be seen as "the octopus of Kilimanjaro". This carcass is not a simple fetish, but with a lumpy meaning.
            Therefore - a corpse under the asphalt in front of the "wailing wall". Let it stinks, SCAM !!!
            Alekseev in nurses loungers.
            bulk, daredevil, posner, gozmans and others like them in the "honorary guard" ...
            Appoint Putin in charge of the "event". The direct executor is Medvedev.
            Kruuugom - doingaaat!
          2. sergaivenski
            +1
            21 July 2013 05: 00
            Ascetic, Hello !!! I completely agree with you. All this noise smells of the Huge Theater of Absurdity !!! Remember Yeltsin. First, Gorbachev dragged Yeltsin to Moscow, made him the First Secretary of the CPSU Regional Committee. Yeltsin began to remove the secretaries of the CPSU district committees from their lured posts. made a noise sending their petitions to the Central Committee of the CPSU. Yeltsin was removed from his post, automatically making him a rogue liberal who advocated reform. When Yeltsin left the rostrum of the 19th Party Conference
            tion, he said bluntly: “I'll show you again.” And he showed it. Only not to Gorbachev and the Company, but to the entire country built by our grandfathers and fathers, called the USSR !!! Yeltsin with the Company
            prefer to ruin a huge country !!!
        3. -1
          20 July 2013 18: 10
          Does it surprise you?
      4. +3
        20 July 2013 13: 08
        Quote: Civil
        whether for the Liberals or against Putin ....

        And in your third is not given?
        1. +1
          20 July 2013 18: 12
          what are you, this is the falcon pu-who is not with us is against us.
    6. -25
      20 July 2013 08: 36
      As always, one of the few people who do at least something to combat corruption is imprisoned, and the local inhabitants rejoice. There are two reasons: either they themselves are representatives of a "glorious cohort" of crooks and thieves, or they work out their 200 (or 500) rubles a day.
      1. Forward looking
        +1
        20 July 2013 08: 46
        Quote: alex86
        As always, one of the few people who do at least something to combat corruption is imprisoned, and the local inhabitants rejoice. There are two reasons: either they themselves are representatives of a "glorious cohort" of crooks and thieves, or they work out their 200 (or 500) rubles a day.

        You will now be banned and delete the comment!
      2. slas
        0
        20 July 2013 08: 55
        Quote: alex86
        I. There are two reasons: either they themselves are representatives of a "glorious cohort" of crooks and thieves, or they work out their 200 (or 500) rubles a day.

        Young green No comments
        1. 0
          20 July 2013 22: 50
          Quote: slas
          Young green

          This, you, sorry, what?
          1. Shoma-1970
            -5
            21 July 2013 01: 57
            but what is not clear?
      3. +2
        20 July 2013 09: 33
        What did he specifically do? Stupidly shout anyone can. Unless he stole a few lyamas so that others would not get wassat
        1. PB1995
          +10
          20 July 2013 10: 18
          http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1210433/

          Alexei Navalny's initiative to ban officials from buying cars more than 1,5 million rubles has received 100 signatures. Now the proposal of the oppositionist, published on the website "Russian Public Initiative" (ROI), according to the law, must be considered by the State Duma.

          “Russian officials have no official need for such expensive cars. This is a pure desire to demonstrate superiority over“ ordinary people. ”A black official limousine, worth several million, racing along the median strip of a broken road has become one of the symbols of Russia,” the statement says. Navalny's appeal.

          As proof, the blogger cites examples of government orders: “The head of a small district buys a Lexus jeep for 5 million rubles. , 500 million rubles. "
          1. +4
            20 July 2013 10: 30
            So Zyu and Zhirik have been talking about this for 20 years ...
            1. PB1995
              +6
              20 July 2013 10: 35
              I remember when the presidential election was still in progress, they showed a video for Zyuganov on TV, where he finally gets out of a black executive car (and they open the door for him, i.e. not himself). And before that they show a motorcade rushing along the road. At first I thought it was a movie for Prokhorov or Putin
            2. +5
              20 July 2013 23: 30
              Quote: vezunchik
              ak about this Zyu and Zhirik say 20 years ..

              Yeah ... They say and ride .... they say and ride ....
            3. sergaivenski
              -2
              21 July 2013 05: 15
              The funny thing, Dear Forumists, is that the words of Arkady Raikin are fully and completely confirmed: "The whole world is a theater, and the people in it are actors !!!" Someone is standing behind the curtains of this theater, pulling the strings, jumping out onto the stage new characters.
              As soon as some character starts playing wrong (not according to the rules, as with Snowden, for example, it happened !!!), they try to throw this character off the stage !!! This is exactly what happened to Nemtsov, Ryzhkov, Kasyanov, who formed the core of the Parnas party. By the way, Mr. Navalny is from their company !!!
              who does not know about it !!!
              1. +1
                21 July 2013 11: 48
                Quote: sergaivenski
                words of Arkady Raikin: "The whole world is a theater, and the people in it are actors !!!"

                ?????
          2. +15
            20 July 2013 11: 24
            Quote: PB1995
            The initiative of Alexei Navalny to ban officials from buying cars worth more than 1,5 million rubles received 100 thousand signatures.

            The people, who is for the initiative to abolish parliamentary immunity? Where are the initiatives laid out, who knows? I am also an oppositionist now winked
            1. PB1995
              +4
              20 July 2013 11: 27
              The site "Russian Public Initiative" - ​​www.roi.ru. There seems to be immunity there.
              1. PB1995
                +1
                20 July 2013 11: 39
                Yes there is. While 875 votes
                1. +3
                  20 July 2013 12: 43
                  Quote: PB1995
                  Yes there is. While 875 votes

                  It is necessary here to distribute on the site, few votes, and the topic is relevant. Sorry to be late.
              2. +2
                20 July 2013 12: 49
                Quote: PB1995
                The site "Russian Public Initiative" - ​​www.roi.ru.

                Followed your link and here ....
                1. PB1995
                  +1
                  20 July 2013 14: 06
                  Strange, everything works for me. Try to go straight to the initiative itself.

                  www.roi.ru/poll/petition/chinovniki-i-gos-uslugi/cancellation-vidoizmenenie-neprikosno
                  vennosti-chlenov-soveta-federatcii-i-deputatov-gosudarstvennoj-dumy-rf /
                  1. PB1995
                    0
                    20 July 2013 15: 10
                    ... well, or through another browser (if you have one).
          3. +9
            20 July 2013 11: 50
            Quote: PB1995
            Alexey Navalny's initiative to ban officials from buying cars worth more than 1,5 million
            It is doubtful that he was being carried at the VAZ, it is doubtful ...
            Quote: vezunchik
            So Zyu and Zhirik have been talking about this for 20 years ...
            That is the vile thing that talking room
            You can still recall the head with a patch, the famous Judas and the talker, an ardent fighter with privileges
          4. +17
            20 July 2013 12: 19
            Quote: PB1995
            The initiative of Alexei Navalny to ban officials from buying cars worth more than 1,5 million rubles received 100 thousand signatures.

            So:
            Alexey Navalny, blogger, oppositionist.
            Personal car - Infiniti M Sedan.
            The cost of a new such car ranges from 1 million 800 thousand rubles. up to 3 million rubles Alexey Navalny has a previous-generation model - the all-wheel drive Infiniti M35x with a V-shaped 6-cylinder engine rated at 307 hp. The fuel consumption of this luxury Japanese sedan is decent - 17,2 liters in the city

            Boris Nemtsov, an oppositionist.

            Personal car - Range Rover Sport Supercharged.
            The cost of the model is from 3 million. 500 thousand rubles. The machine is equipped with a v-shaped 8-cylinder engine with a supercharger. Car power - 510 hp, acceleration from 0 to 100 km / h - 6,2 seconds. Fuel consumption in urban traffic on the passport - 22 liters. The real one is a bucket of gas for a couple of good accelerations. Well, what did you want? To disperse a car weighing 2,5 tons, it requires just so much high-octane fuel.
            As you can see, the white tape "guys" have a personal example of the problem.
            1. Mikado
              +7
              20 July 2013 13: 41
              They buy them at least at the expense of the State Department, and citizens are officials for ours.
            2. YuDDP
              0
              21 July 2013 01: 10
              Quote: Tersky
              Alexey Navalny has a previous-generation model - the all-wheel drive Infiniti M35x

              Tersky, do not escalate! Infinity MX previous generation is now sold for 600-700 thousand.
              This is not Audi and BMW, which officials ride, but just Nissan. True, non-explosive and safe due to all-wheel drive.
            3. Shoma-1970
              0
              21 July 2013 01: 39
              The most interesting thing is that they themselves are very "poor", unemployed, which is a pity. Naturally, I'm talking about these Anal, about the Nemtsovs and all sorts of bedding amerikosov!
        2. mnn_13
          +5
          20 July 2013 10: 51
          Stole - went to jail. And no meaning is the cries of the American ambassador and politics. The best thing is that Russia demonstrates that it is an independent state. The screaming about returning to the USSR is only an indicator that the country is on the right path.
          Just for comparison - no one who stole such a bag from Bulgaria will ever go to court. And the words of the American ambassador are law.
          1. +4
            20 July 2013 12: 33
            Quote: mnn_13
            Stole - went to jail.

            And I prefer the Chinese version. What good is it in prison? it takes a place, the state eats up money ... And at least it will give the organs to the sick ^ _ ^ Which incidentally is an example for the whole opposition, it can help the people of the country) There is a kidney, there’s a spleen ...
            1. +4
              20 July 2013 13: 40
              Quote: ShadowCat
              And so at least give the organs to patients ^ _ ^
              Judging by the "Dog's Heart", innocent people may suffer. They will transplant a liver to a normal person, and he will recover and go with a white ribbon (very similar to the bandages of policemen) and bawl to Bolotnaya
              1. +2
                20 July 2013 17: 05
                Yeah .... also rightly noticed. then for export, and money for the development of medicine) To the Yankees. I wonder how they will react to the white painters in the park of the white house? )))
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        4. 0
          20 July 2013 22: 58
          Quote: lewerlin53rus
          Stupidly shout anyone can.
          Well, so stupidly shout about something specific. And here to speak - no big courage is needed ...
          1. Shoma-1970
            0
            21 July 2013 01: 42
            But what is courage needed? do not make chickens laugh!
            1. -1
              21 July 2013 08: 21
              5 years from the state is a serious argument for having courage. Something among the locals I can not suspect anyone of publishing information about corruption (well, except for blah blah about Serdyukov).
      4. +2
        20 July 2013 09: 45
        Regarding the last proposal - I do not agree (s). I want my 85 rubles per message. And to write me from "espumizan" oh, how rushing. =)
      5. 0
        20 July 2013 09: 53
        Quote: alex86
        either they themselves are representatives of the "glorious cohort" of crooks and thieves, or they work out their 200 (or 500) rubles a day.

        Nerd idiot!
        1. +1
          20 July 2013 23: 01
          Quote: omsbon
          Nerd idiot!

          Very nice, Alex.
      6. +6
        20 July 2013 10: 28
        Bulk fighter with corruption ????? You are a naive person !!!! He is on the hook at the CIA - he was given an order, as well as Kudrin and in front, work out indulgence ....
        1. -1
          20 July 2013 23: 21
          Well, I am. maybe naive, but
          Quote: vezunchik
          on the hook at the CIA
          - in 37 it was called "disbelief in the strength of the socialist Motherland", do not fall for such and such conspiracy theories ...
        2. YuDDP
          +1
          21 July 2013 01: 13
          And the CIA invented corruption in order for Navalny to fight with anything!
          1. sergaivenski
            +2
            21 July 2013 05: 33
            You are mistaken, Dear Forumist !!! Corruption has been and will always be, as long as states exist !!! The question is different: who is behind all this booth ??? Current Kremlinologists ??? It is unlikely, but possible !!! The US government ??? What, is this a thought ???
            In words, Mr. Obama calls Mr. Putin a friend, stands up for peace and friendship between our countries. In fact, "our" Western "partners" are kept from sleeping peacefully by one thought: why still a huge country, Russia, does not belong to us ??? so far, huge resources located in the depths of Russia do not belong
            us??? "And huge amounts of money are allocated to all newly-minted oppositionists: the Nemtsovs,
            Novodvorsky, Kasyanov, Ryzhkov, etc. And money must be worked out !!!
      7. +9
        20 July 2013 11: 22
        Quote: alex86
        or work out their 200 (or 500) rubles a day.

        Fine you about us. Our tariff is 5000 thousand for each koment and piece by piece for each inserted message wink
        1. +4
          20 July 2013 12: 27
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Fine you about us. Our tariff is 5000 thousand for each koment and piece by piece for each inserted message

          It will not be enough! Not enough !!
        2. +1
          20 July 2013 23: 11
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Our tariff is 5000 thousand for each koment
          You overestimate yourself, apparently, still 200 ...
          1. 0
            21 July 2013 02: 58
            Quote: alex86
            You overestimate yourself, apparently, still 200 ...

            200 p. Is in the swamp!
            1. +2
              21 July 2013 08: 12
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              200 p. Is in the swamp!

              And there you earn extra money by a provocateur ?!
        3. Dober
          +1
          21 July 2013 00: 25
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Our tariff is 5000 thousand for each koment and piece by piece for each inserted message

          Then you, Alexander, are a billionaire. Dollar or tugrikovy? fellow
          Here people are interested. Where should the rest of us go for pitiful pennies? Of course, the profit is not great, but "your pocket will be comfortable" ...
          1. 0
            21 July 2013 02: 59
            Quote: Dober
            Then you, Alexander, are a billionaire.

            I have big expenses winked
      8. stroporez
        +7
        20 July 2013 11: 22
        Quote: alex86
        one of the few people who do anything to counter corruption is being sent to prison,
        Well, maybe you, fool, explain to me --- sho SPECIFICALLY he did to combat corruption !!! ????? Toko is SPECIFIC, please .........
        1. FATEMOGAN
          +8
          20 July 2013 14: 51
          Quote: stroporez
          sho SPECIFICALLY he did to combat corruption !!! ????? Toko is SPECIFIC, please .........



          Progressive publicity, respond ............., and in response to silence ....... bully
          or maybe he stole a forest from noble intentions - to fight bribes and embezzlers bully
          1. sleepy
            0
            20 July 2013 18: 03
            Quote: FATEMOGAN
            "... or maybe he was stealing the forest out of noble intentions -
            to fight bribery and embezzlers ... ".


            Stalin also stole from good intentions.
            So the main thing is where the money was spent.
            1. Regis
              +1
              21 July 2013 00: 24
              Quote: sleepy
              Quote: FATEMOGAN
              "... or maybe he was stealing the forest out of noble intentions -
              to fight bribery and embezzlers ... ".

              Stalin also stole from good intentions.
              So the main thing is where the money was spent.


              Yeah) and Serdyukov with the women's battalion, too, probably for good reasons dug the treasury laughing
          2. FATEMOGAN
            +2
            21 July 2013 02: 19
            Starikov's video blog on July 19, 2013. Talk about Navalny, Snowden, Anglo-Saxons, ideologies.

        2. +3
          20 July 2013 23: 34
          Quote: stroporez
          fool
          Bulk - Rospil, and you, apparently, assume that he should shoot bribes? This, you know, is another article, and it’s easier to sew on it, and you can shoot it during detention.
        3. YuDDP
          +1
          21 July 2013 01: 19
          website Rospil look or his blog ...
          From the latter: Yakunin - the main railway worker - built himself a dacha the size of a railway station with a "fur storage"
          Well, and as usual, all this is framed in offshore

          Yes, you do not play the fool: even if Navalny is fed from there, the mere fact that he prevents officials from brazenly stealing deserves public gratitude
      9. FATEMOGAN
        -8
        20 July 2013 11: 36
        Quote: alex86
        As always, one of the few people who do anything to counter corruption is imprisoned, and the inhabitants here rejoice.


        Don’t worry Alexey, not everyone is happy with your grief, look at the photo - what a support group you have !!! (clickable)
        1. PB1995
          +12
          20 July 2013 11: 43
          For some reason, rainbow flags have the same folds. The farthest something bothers me. Not convinced.
          1. FATEMOGAN
            -4
            20 July 2013 12: 39
            but according to yours. if the wind blows, then all the flags should develop in different directions? laughing
          2. YuDDP
            +2
            21 July 2013 01: 24
            yes, and the sizes are disproportionate
            photoshop ...
            1. FATEMOGAN
              -2
              21 July 2013 02: 17
              Quote: YuDDP
              photoshop ...


              Not in Photoshop, but in the idea, WHO IS MR Navalny .........
          3. 0
            21 July 2013 03: 02
            Quote: PB1995
            For some reason, rainbow flags have the same folds. The farthest thing is embarrassing me

            It’s clear that photoshop, but in color.
        2. +4
          20 July 2013 13: 26
          Quote: FATEMOGAN
          what a support group you have !!!

          Oh, cool photo, hello Taigi master here you talked about the worst part of our society. Here it is in the photo laughing
          1. -1
            20 July 2013 13: 49
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            talked about the worst part of our society. Here it is in the photo
            *** User menu Master (1913) 3 years ago (link)
            Violation! Violation! Give a sticker! NEW Write a letterWrite a letter Thank
            gays - all the best that mankind has)
            Some people think so
        3. +4
          20 July 2013 13: 43
          Quote: FATEMOGAN
          you have a support group !!!
          It looks like a camouflaged gay parade
          proudly flying banners of fighting cocks negative
          1. FATEMOGAN
            -1
            20 July 2013 14: 39
            Quote: Denis
            proudly flying banners of fighting cocks


            This is what amuses that all this pedaras is sick and worries about the fascist. As they say, insanity grows stronger day by day ....
            1. Shoma-1970
              0
              21 July 2013 01: 53
              Pavel, how exactly did you say !!! good
        4. Shoma-1970
          0
          21 July 2013 01: 46
          especially someone with rainbow-colored flags, you take it far! lol
        5. Shoma-1970
          -1
          21 July 2013 01: 50
          FATEMOGAN. It seems your humor is not quite correctly understood, for they set minuses wink
          1. FATEMOGAN
            -3
            21 July 2013 02: 13
            Quote: Shoma-1970
            FATEMOGAN. It seems your humor is not quite correctly understood, for they set minuses


            Unfortunately, they didn’t understand, they began to look out for mint of flags, to calculate the proportionality of the wind laughing and the thought was about something else ..., well, okay, someone still liked it, Shamil drinks
            1. FATEMOGAN
              -1
              21 July 2013 15: 16
              As I look at the minuses, a secret group of fans of Nasralny started up on our site, the young shit wassat as expected, they swarm together and stupidly minus any word against Nasralny, and secret because they do not argue their position outside the minuses.
              1. +1
                21 July 2013 17: 14
                Quote: FATEMOGAN
                As I look at the minuses, a secret group of fans started up on our site

                It should be noted _ The group is constantly pressing across the field, it is worth saying a word against Navalny or even doubt its integrity!
                Not all is well in the Kingdom of Denmark

                Hmm, or vice versa? Since such active monitoring of the site is already eight ..., in general, the Navalny himself very accurately characterized them.
                1. +1
                  21 July 2013 17: 18
                  Once again, I remind you who they are, this is the most, tear
      10. +1
        20 July 2013 13: 06
        Quote: alex86
        As always, one of the few people who do at least something to combat corruption is imprisoned, and the local inhabitants rejoice. There are two reasons: either they themselves are representatives of a "glorious cohort" of crooks and thieves, or they work out their 200 (or 500) rubles a day.

        Where does the money give the address do not share?
      11. Shumka.
        +1
        20 July 2013 13: 32
        Oh, right now a tear in the forest, poor Nasral, a fighter with a redhead .......
        In your leisure time, take an interest in the word greenmail, and then you’ll understand where the legs came out from the ass ....
      12. -1
        20 July 2013 15: 13
        Quote: alex86
        As always, one of the few people who do at least something to combat corruption is imprisoned, and the local inhabitants rejoice. There are two reasons: either they themselves are representatives of a "glorious cohort" of crooks and thieves, or they work out their 200 (or 500) rubles a day.

        Ahhhhhh! Give me my money !!! belay
        1. 0
          20 July 2013 23: 24
          Quote: Alexej
          Give me my money !!!

          This is not for me, this is for you in the Kremlin ...
      13. sleepy
        0
        20 July 2013 17: 54
        Quote: alex86

        "... one of the few people who do at least something
        to counteract corruption, put in jail ... "


        Anti-corruption requires Laws, not the actions of individual citizens.

        "Since 2013, a package of anti-corruption laws began to operate in Russia." http://www.podatinet.net/2013010929641/news/news/s-2013-goda-v-rossii-nachal-dei
        stvovat-paket-antikorrupcionnyh-zakonov.html

        Federal law "Fundamentals of anti-corruption policy."
        The project was submitted to the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation on 05.06.2001 by deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation.
        http://www.stopcorruption.ru/item_332.htm
        1. 0
          20 July 2013 23: 38
          Quote: sleepy
          Anti-corruption requires Laws, not the actions of individual citizens.

          I absolutely agree, only the laws do not apply ...
      14. +2
        20 July 2013 21: 18
        As always, one of the few people doing anything to counter corruption


        holy naivety ...
      15. Shoma-1970
        -3
        21 July 2013 01: 32
        Listen alex86, if you have nothing to say, delete your account!
        1. +3
          21 July 2013 08: 03
          I'm with you. a young man, did not baptize children and did not drink vodka. And what I wanted to say, I said.
    7. +9
      20 July 2013 08: 36
      Quote: Canep
      the avalan became an oppositionist because he stole

      How convenient he messed up and into opposition. So maybe soon we will see the entire "women's battalion" of Serdyukov on Bolotnaya Square.
    8. +7
      20 July 2013 10: 09
      Quote: Canep
      I think Navalny became an opposition because he steals and wanted ...

      90% of our opposition just want to go back to the feeding trough again
      1. 0
        20 July 2013 10: 44
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        Quote: Canep
        I think Navalny became an opposition because he steals and wanted ...

        90% of our opposition just want to go back to the feeding trough again


        Moreover, to the one where they put more, no matter who. And the views are changed to please the owner.
      2. -1
        20 July 2013 18: 21
        I think you don’t have to go far, an example is Spring.
    9. +2
      20 July 2013 11: 16
      Quote: Canep
      I think Navalny became an opposition because he steals and wanted

      This is kliftomaniya.
      1. redwar6
        +1
        20 July 2013 12: 50
        Here you need a good doctor. So many diseases have gathered)
        Here, by the way, there was a doctor somewhere. But seriously, everything is here)
        Where are my 6k for koment?) wassat
    10. +3
      20 July 2013 14: 09
      It very much resembles Lieutenant Schmidt, the real lieutenant, who lowered public money, and then sharply became a fiery revolutionary.
    11. +1
      20 July 2013 17: 10
      Quote: Canep
      I think Navalny became an oppositionist because he stepped aside and wanted to be given less in court, which in the West is considered politically motivated. That is, it was not the politician who was tried for theft, but the thief was given a lenient sentence because he became a politician.

      Just perfect!
      Major Zheglov said: - A thief should be in prison.
      But this was under socialism, and under capitalism, thieves are sitting in the State Duma.
      Colonel Kvachkov is also an oppositionist, but he didn’t act correctly, he didn’t steal, if Kvachkov robbed Chubais on the high road to the end, he would have definitely received a suspended sentence and became a guarantor in the courtroom.
    12. series
      +4
      20 July 2013 20: 16
      Navalny, Nemtsov, Kasparov, Misha 3% and "now and forever OFF" Chubais is the State Department's BLUVOTINA!
      on the core of this FOAM and SLAG of Russia .... to the wall, SCAR !!
      1. 0
        20 July 2013 20: 25
        Quote: S-200
        Navalny, Nemtsov, Misha 3% and

        And Zhenya 6% added wink
    13. Basil123
      -1
      20 July 2013 20: 27
      no, not because it was stolen, but because whoever he was, let’s enter he grew up ............................ and not by anybody a sucker by default)))))))))))))))) Yes, and salaryaaaaaa ??????????????? I do not defend power, but don’t let it go while its actions inspire respect not only in me but also in the west
    14. +1
      21 July 2013 01: 34
      Quote: Canep
      I think Navalny became an oppositionist because he steal and wanted him to


      He wanted fame, more than that he wanted a free dough. Actually, he has already earned his thirty. It’s another matter that we still need to get it from the employer, and the State Department has thousands of them and all require their thirty.
    15. w.ebdo.g
      +2
      21 July 2013 03: 14
      good news about landing ... the best in the world !!!
    16. Klin
      +1
      21 July 2013 10: 15
      Prosecutor General Yuri Chaika refused the chairman of the Investigative Committee, Alexander Bastrykin, to send to the criminal court a former deputy prosecutor of the Moscow Region Alexander Ignatenko, accused of receiving bribes of 33 million rubles
      Read more: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2238303

      According to a Kommersant source in the supervisory agency, the accusation brought against Mr. Ignatenko of “taking bribes on an especially large scale with extortion” (part 5 of Article 290 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation) was built by the investigation only on the testimony of persons who were themselves accused within the same cases and were held in custody. That is, they were dependent on the investigator. In this case, we are talking about the former head of the Moscow Regional Prosecutor's Office Dmitry Urumov, who is Alexander Ignatenko's accomplice in the bribery case and, like him, did not go to court due to the intervention of Prosecutor General Yury Chaika. Mr. Urumov, in exchange for being released from jail under house arrest, gave detailed evidence against his former boss, which allowed the ICR to name Mr. Ignatenko the organizer of a corruption protection scheme and impute him multimillion-dollar criminal proceeds
      Read more: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2238303

      Another example of the activities of the Putin prosecutor's office. In the case of Navalny, the whole charge is also based on the testimony of the convict and who made a deal with the investigation of Opalev, who was dependent on the investigator.

      Ignatenko fled with a Lithuanian passport to Poland where he was hiding, from where he was extradited. Bulk did not run and did not hide.

      Two comparisons.
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      1. 0
        21 July 2013 18: 31
        The army concerns everything that happens in our big house. DON'T FORGET YITSHAK, flesh from flesh ...
      2. 0
        21 July 2013 19: 06
        Quote: Honest Jew
        the former "Voennoye Obozreniye" has turned into a site for the yellow press, about politics and bitovuha !!!

        It’s not for you to talk about this, a priori claiming that all your other tribesmen are, by definition, dishonest.
        wink
    18. Crocodile
      0
      22 July 2013 02: 20
      A thief should be in prison - no one will argue! According to this article, I would add, as an aggravating circumstance, a corresponding position ... They would go to deputies as if to hard labor! Or maybe all the bodies of elective power would be abolished for want of want ...
      Although ... And who are the judges? ...
  2. +3
    20 July 2013 06: 20
    And by and large: why is it so much attention to Navalny?
    And really, why?
    A THIEF SHOULD SIT IN JAIL, Gleb Zheglov also said. And he was still on the wave of an oh-position as mayor, although the place was very thieves, he climbed
    1. Master Taiga
      +7
      20 July 2013 08: 14
      Serdyukov and Vasiliev are sitting? It seems not. Vasilyeva did not even reduce the time of walks. So a thief, if he is close to Putin, should not be in prison?
      1. +8
        20 July 2013 08: 29
        Tyagomotin with Serdyukov and Vasilyeva is not a reason to justify all the other thieves
        1. 0
          20 July 2013 10: 32
          Those who put a minus. And what, since Taburetkin and the harem have not been imprisoned yet, should all the other thieves be released?
      2. +7
        20 July 2013 08: 33
        This principle is called "one's own - everything, a stranger - according to the law." And here, unfortunately, the main problem in it is, in principle, and not in any particular case.
        The law must be the same for all, or it is not a law at all.
        1. +3
          20 July 2013 08: 48
          Now, if they are acquitted in court or simply released after dismissing the charges, then we'll talk. And while the investigation is underway and what considerations are being made, it is not known. The secret of the investigation. Chew, see.
          1. +8
            20 July 2013 09: 04
            Yes, I’m not even talking about Serdyukov and Vasilyeva, and there are plenty of examples before them - Chubais and Rusnano from Skolkovo, Livanov and MISiS, Skrytnik and Rosagroleasing, Ivanov who "knew about the embezzlement in Glonass, but was afraid to frighten off the adversaries" and so on ...
            But you're right, let's see what happens next.
            1. -3
              20 July 2013 12: 57
              look: there’s a cry that Putin planted a bulk! such a powerful dictator! And does not allow to put Serdyukov! Omnipotent! but it is unclear how such an omnipotent dictator allowed the sounding of thefts in the Moscow Region, Roscosmos, and so on. or in the UK, the joint venture and the prosecutor’s office have lost their fear, are corrupt officials? I have no answer yet. you can come up with a theory about the special provocation of indignation of the people and any actions.
      3. Choot
        0
        20 July 2013 11: 16
        Not to be confused - Vasiliev is under investigation and a house arrest has been chosen as a preventive measure. But Navalny, under investigation, generally went by subscription. That's when Vasilyeva will be given conditionally on the verdict of the court (which I strongly doubt), then it will be possible to speak about the selectivity of our law enforcement system.
        1. -2
          20 July 2013 18: 25
          make a mistake, wait for her to run away. hang everything on her, let Serdyukov go.
    2. dewiataikin59
      +3
      20 July 2013 12: 51
      Bulk information lightning rod from the process of initiating distrust of the government by the Communist Party. A complete information bike of the process of distrust of the government.
  3. 0
    20 July 2013 06: 20
    Well done Alexey! Great you rolled them. Article plus !!
  4. vladsolo56
    +4
    20 July 2013 06: 25
    Let’s ponder why Navalny was released, why the EU so zealously stood up for him, and in contrast to why Kvachkova and Khabarov were imprisoned and not a single influential person peered for them, both in the West and in Russia.
    1. PB1995
      +2
      20 July 2013 08: 12
      Yesterday I heard on the news that Kvachkov’s term was reduced - from 13 to 8 years.
  5. +3
    20 July 2013 06: 26
    Quote: Canep
    That is, it was not the politician who was tried for theft, but the thief was given a lenient sentence because he became a politician.
    1. Reptile
      -1
      20 July 2013 15: 14
      No, not at all
  6. Valery Neonov
    -1
    20 July 2013 06: 27
    "And by and large: why is this so much attention to Navalny?"- and it was more than strange to listen to the distortion of the acting Mayor of Moscow, that ALL REGISTRATED must participate in the election campaign. But what about the conviction (it doesn’t matter that they changed the measure), because the bulk recognized guilty ....
    The condition of pardon is the recognition of bulk as guilty ... In general, the THEATER OF NONSENSE in life!
    1. +2
      20 July 2013 17: 38
      The person becomes guilty after the sentence comes into force, until that moment he can appeal it. Before wringing your hands about the theater - you need to know basic things, especially since the bulk will be able to participate in the elections (if desired) despite the verdict - they said long before the announcement.
  7. 0
    20 July 2013 06: 33
    The show goes on!!! The most interesting will be in September he he
  8. pinecone
    +1
    20 July 2013 07: 01
    The power is confused. It must be admitted that against the background of Serdyukov's tricks, the verdict to the bulk-anal "sounded" not too convincing.
  9. olviko
    +5
    20 July 2013 07: 06
    Everything is fine, men. What happened? nothing, the centuries-old struggle of the West against Russia continues, that’s all. Such bulk has always been, is and will be. Weeds appear in the field every year, the task is to clean them in time!
  10. +2
    20 July 2013 07: 10
    let the office plankton calm down
    1. 0
      20 July 2013 07: 56
      Quote: bomg.77
      so that office plankton calms down
      Is this the people?
      1. Forward looking
        0
        20 July 2013 08: 05
        Quote: Denis
        Is this the people?

        But is it not a PART of the people? Who are your people?
      2. +1
        20 July 2013 08: 08
        Quote: Denis
        Quote: bomg.77
        so that office plankton calms down
        Is this the people?
        Not the best part
        1. Forward looking
          +1
          20 July 2013 08: 26
          Quote: bomg.77
          Not the best part

          How do you determine the best part or not?
          1. +3
            20 July 2013 08: 46
            Quote: Forward Looking
            How do you determine the best part or not?
            how did you determine? Looked at their leaders. Such as dog, Kasyanov, Caspar, Germans, beeps, etc. Will such an answer suit you?
            1. Forward looking
              0
              20 July 2013 08: 49
              Do you think that the figures you have listed are leaders? I do not agree! Nemtsov - a clown, Gudkov - I don’t know who he is, Kasparov is an unrivaled champion for me, Sobchak showed her well in Nasha Rush, Kasyanov is a political corpse. By the way, you did not mention Akunin.
              1. +3
                20 July 2013 09: 19
                Quote: Forward Looking
                Do you think that the figures you have listed are leaders? I do not agree! Nemtsov - a clown, Gudkov - I don’t know who he is, Kasparov is an unrivaled champion for me, Sobchak showed her well in Nasha Rush, Kasyanov is a political corpse. By the way, you did not mention Akunin.
                Regarding Kasparov, I agree that he is not an unrivaled chess player, but a bad politician. All these personalities discredited himself, as did Navalny. All of whom I listed are leaders of the non-systemic opposition and provide information support. You forgot about the great Russian scientist about Panomarev.
                Whatever you say now, they are the leaders of your pseudo-liberal movement.
      3. Master Taiga
        -17
        20 July 2013 08: 16
        Most of the people there did much more for the country than most of the visitors to this site.
        1. +3
          20 July 2013 08: 31
          Quote: Taiga Master
          Most of the people there did much more for the country than most of the visitors to this site.

          Well, you, for example, are not the biggest part of anything at all.
          1. Master Taiga
            -5
            20 July 2013 08: 53
            And who are you to judge me? The little man who got a bloated rating with cheers-patriotic posts?
            1. +10
              20 July 2013 09: 39
              Find at least one such post from me. I judge the personality, and you begin to condemn a group of people. Feel the difference.
        2. +4
          20 July 2013 09: 23
          Quote: Head of Chukotka
          Most of the people there did much more for the country than most of the visitors to this site.

          Are you talking about office plankton? Well, yes, they feed collective farm ducks and pigs, and fellow citizens who have not raised virgin lands. Wait ... are you one of them? I bow to you. Yes
          1. fisherman
            0
            20 July 2013 14: 43
            Well, yes, they feed collective farm ducks and pigs, and fellow citizens who have not raised virgin lands. Wait ... are you one of them? I bow to you.




            trying to portray people :)

            or the best part of the people - the working working class

            and the color of the revolutionary outfit is not important: white, red or gray-brown-raspberry, it is important that they are only interested in THRONE, every minute of their existence :)

            but to go to the people and "wash the people diapers" (now it is peacetime) is a "hollow", because calluses can appear, and it is boring for people "with revolutionary fervor in DNA"

            "boys with velvet handles"
            1. +2
              21 July 2013 09: 02
              Meeting in defense of Navalny.

              Quote: fisherman
              "boys with velvet handles"

              Well, these are clearly not metallurgists or miners! winked
        3. +8
          20 July 2013 11: 48
          Quote: Taiga Master
          Most of the people there did much more for the country than most of the visitors to this site.

          hey hazyain taiga, why are you upset? normal people on this site, they work, raise children, pay taxes, love their homeland. take my army proverb into service, if you spit on society, it will be destroyed, if society spits on you, you will drown. Do not like the site, bring down LJ.
        4. +5
          20 July 2013 13: 27
          Quote: Taiga Master
          Most of the people there did much more for the country than most of the visitors to this site.


          Excuse me, what country did you mean? If America, then I strongly agree with you for it. They have done a lot.
        5. +4
          21 July 2013 08: 52
          Quote: Taiga Master
          Most of the people there did much more for the country than most of the visitors to this site.


          Yes, these for their fifteen years of life, "did" much more than the veterans, officers and soldiers present here on the site, who have passed more than one hot spot of our planet. bully
          Do not make people laugh.
          Better not get angry.
    2. +4
      20 July 2013 08: 12
      Quote: bomg.77
      let the office plankton calm down

      Perhaps it’s possible. And maybe even to make a snitch out of the victim. But this is not the best example for crooks and thieves of all stripes! He will certainly surrender everyone, but the precedent for avoiding responsibility (even temporary) may misinterpret other sinister and the parasites of our state and count it as a weakness. Yes, and Nas ... ugh, Navalny next time can run to run for president!
  11. tifon
    +2
    20 July 2013 07: 18
    To declare Udaltsov, Nemtsov, Kasyanov, Sobchak and other opposition members persona non grata in Russia, it’s enough to put up with these pseudo-fighters for justice, all this sharashka is pro-Western, and there’s nothing to be afraid of them, the authorities somehow behave uncertainly.
    1. 0
      20 July 2013 07: 33
      Quote: tifon
      the authorities somehow behave uncertainly.

      Because the opinions of the people are divided.
      1. +2
        20 July 2013 08: 19
        What are my cons? The new ghoul has supporters, and, sadly, enough. He, such a jamb, was specially introduced into politics so that later, if he was imprisoned, he would yell that Russia does not have democracy and that Putin is being tough and imprisoned poor oppositionists.
      2. +2
        20 July 2013 08: 26
        Quote: Alexej
        Because the opinions of the people are divided.

        Sorry hi Hand jerked slammed minus crying I will correct multiple good
        Quote: tifon
        , Sobchak and other opposition to declare personas non grata in Russia,

        And who will trade the toilets? wassat
        1. +2
          20 July 2013 10: 34
          You can’t trade. They steal. But to clean, the very thing.
          1. -1
            20 July 2013 14: 01
            Those who put a minus. Your arguments in the studio. Or are you just afraid of competition? wassat
  12. 0
    20 July 2013 07: 19
    Quote: bomg.77
    let the office plankton calm down

    To the point said !!
    1. 0
      21 July 2013 13: 43
      no, hardly. It seems to me let go, because immediately said that they would let go to the polls
  13. +4
    20 July 2013 07: 20
    Quote: vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 RU Today, 06:25 AM New

    Let’s ponder why Navalny was released, why the EU so zealously stood up for him, and in contrast to why Kvachkova and Khabarov were imprisoned and not a single influential person peered for them, both in the West and in Russia.

    A thief, he is a thief, remember the decision of the Gross Duma to ban the profession, when all convicted, even with a cleared criminal record, or who were or were under investigation, with the exception of theft and corruption, can not work as teachers and educate children. For example, he gave a boor in the face, had a fight with his wife and all you can no longer be a teacher, and if you stole, kidnapped, took or gave a bribe, you can. How wonderful it came up with United Russia, i.e. to teach theft, please, but you can defend your dignity only in court. Here it is the rotten consciousness of society and power. One can consider the Onalnaya’s case political when compared with the defense service’s case. The people always ask the authorities: why for the theft of 16 million in jail, for the same number, but in billions of house arrest and a date with a lover, godfather, or (forgot his name) for the theft of 350 million 5 years conditionally? Compare: for the theft of a mobile phone with penetration into the room 5 years is real. You can, of course, blame the court, but it seems that nothing can be done without an authority order. Judge Blinov was right and well done really 5 years, but then the prosecutor's depressions began, and the regional court, I am sure, will release the thief to freedom. And the president has nothing to do with it, although it’s possible roundabout, because he created this system, the system of deflection. Allow to steal and commit selfish crimes in order to be able to grab anyone by the tail.
    1. +1
      20 July 2013 08: 01
      Quote: valokordin
      And the president has nothing to do with it.
      Absolutely, or maybe he doesn’t know anything about that?
      One hint to get it right and another result
      1. +2
        20 July 2013 08: 06
        They learned to catch, they will learn to plant soon. Fifteen years ago we would not even know about such thefts.
  14. The comment was deleted.
    1. +1
      20 July 2013 08: 31
      Quote: Forward Looking
      Forward looking

      It’s not you who passed here several times? what Will you leave yourself or help? feel wassat
      1. Forward looking
        -1
        20 July 2013 08: 34
        Quote: Ruslan67
        It’s not you who passed here several times? what will you leave yourself or help? feel wassat

        For what reason will we leave?
        1. +1
          20 July 2013 08: 36
          Quote: Forward Looking
          For what reason will we leave?

          Something I don’t like your face request
          1. Forward looking
            -2
            20 July 2013 08: 39
            Quote: Ruslan67
            Something I don’t like your face request

            Since the face is crooked, there is nothing to blame on the mirror!
            1. +1
              20 July 2013 08: 43
              Quote: Forward Looking
              Kohl mug crooked,

              I guarantee a few more posts and promotion tongue wassat And since people like you do not know how to stay, you are on this site until the first awakened moderator request I have such a mood good you'll be third in two days negative wassat
              1. Forward looking
                0
                20 July 2013 08: 51
                Quote: Ruslan67
                I guarantee a few more posts and an increase in the rank of tongue wassat. And since people like you do not know how to stay, you are on this site until the first moderator who wakes up request. My mood is so good. You will be the third in two days negative wassat

                Within? Mr., Good, mind you did not offend anyone, expressed his point of view. I have the right? I have. Otherwise, close the forum and chat with awakened moderators.
                1. +3
                  20 July 2013 08: 57
                  Quote: Forward Looking
                  Otherwise, close the forum and chat with awakened moderators.

                  -sergeant! You forgot to ask what to do and when and with whom to communicate. wassat Your dog-like tribe from Scandinavia is already tired am Maybe they will start paying you some minimum for not being here? and you feel good and the State Department is cheaper?
      2. Forward looking
        -2
        20 July 2013 08: 35
        Quote: Ruslan67
        It’s not you who passed here several times? what will you leave yourself or help? feel wassat

        And if possible - why was my comment deleted? As far as I know censorship is prohibited, there were no insults in my post.
        1. +1
          20 July 2013 08: 38
          Quote: Forward Looking
          And if possible - why my comment was deleted

          Of course you can fellow Only not to me request I am not an admin or a moderator what And what? something deleted? Ai-Yai Yai Which are not Tolerant sad
          1. Forward looking
            -1
            20 July 2013 08: 40
            Quote: Ruslan67
            Of course you can fellow Just not to me request. I'm not an admin or a moderator. something deleted? Ai-Yai Yai Which are not tolerant :(

            But fully accurate :)
            1. +1
              20 July 2013 08: 45
              Quote: Forward Looking
              But fully accurate:

              And you go around the filter so you don’t have to wait long feel
          2. Yarbay
            +1
            20 July 2013 09: 36
            Quote: Ruslan67
            I am not an admin or a moderator

            But if I shoot Macedonian?)))))
            Ruslan hello !!
            For me, Navalny should be appointed governor of Chukotka)))))
            There, he will either turn swift or admit that he cannot work))
            In general, all active opposition should be given positions!
            Then they will be hard to ask from them!
            Cope-President well done, gave a chance!
            Do not cope, forward to Siberia to cut the forest and again the President did well, gave a chance, did not cope, planted, did not cover !!))
            1. +1
              20 July 2013 09: 45
              Alibek hi
              Quote: Yarbay
              There, he will either turn swift or admit that he cannot work))

              The one we both mean first came to San Francisco and then brought a million to the country fellow And this is not Abramovich wassat On hell to give such an opportunity and a great temptation? negative Maybe the foreman at the mine immediately, but as a bonus, the ability to roll a wheelbarrow not up and down? wassat drinks
              1. Yarbay
                +2
                20 July 2013 09: 55
                Quote: Ruslan67
                Maybe the foreman at the mine immediately, but as a bonus, the ability to roll a wheelbarrow not up and down?

                It is necessary to give a position higher, there is more temptation))))
                I remember when I was President Yelchibey, I said very funny things))
                Once they asked him, they say you did not prevent corruption, there will be no bribe takers, but now they are taking huge amounts of bribes, why)))) ??
                He began to explain in his style, saying that I appointed an honest person as minister, he did not take bribes when they offered several thousand, but began to offer hundreds of thousands and millions, he could not stand it, these millions moved like a bulldozer)))))))))) )))
                1. +1
                  20 July 2013 10: 00
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  It is necessary to give a position higher, there is more temptation))))

                  Alibek re-read the Bible there. Hebrew is written in Russian - do not tempt am
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  supposedly I appointed an honest man as minister, he did not take bribes

                  Well, right, at first they didn’t give an honest person request And he felt insulted -I am so honest but they don’t give me what Full crap wassat And about Elchibey without a mat I can’t am
            2. +1
              20 July 2013 09: 46
              Quote: Yarbay
              But if I shoot Macedonian?)))))

              In two days, the third am Who's next? am wassat
            3. +4
              20 July 2013 12: 38
              Quote: Yarbay
              For me, Navalny should be appointed governor of Chukotka)))))
              There, he will either turn swift or admit that he cannot work))
              In general, all active opposition should be given positions!


              Hello Alikbek! Navalny seems to have been given some kind of warm position at Aeroflot. He was even introduced to the company's Board of Directors. He was nominated by the well-known oligarch Lebedev (also a participant in the recent scandalous process and the owner of the handshake newspaper Novoye Vremya)
              Alexei Navalny, as it became clear from the materials for the annual meeting of shareholders, received the smallest bonus at the end of 2012 - 1,076 million rubles.
              link
              1. Yarbay
                +2
                20 July 2013 13: 30
                Quote: Ascetic
                Navalny seems to have been given some kind of warm post at Aeroflot. He was even introduced to the board of directors of the company.

                Hi Stanislav!
                That's just the point that it is not necessary to give a warm post, but it is necessary to give RESPONSIBLE !!
                In order not to talk, but to show that he knows how and in general whether something is able !!
                Giving a warm post to a large one, they CUT him and show that they do not want work, but to keep silent, and this is fundamentally wrong and dangerous!

                That’s why, in our country, the opposition is not popular ??
                Because almost everyone used to be in positions and everyone knows what they are capable of, but they don’t allow new people to come to the feeder from foreign grants, so they are wandering around!
        2. +2
          20 July 2013 08: 46
          Quote: Forward Looking
          As far as I know censorship is prohibited,

          In your opinion, is it allowed on the mat? Reread the rules of the site, find the answer to the question, why.
          1. +2
            20 July 2013 08: 50
            Quote: Tersky
            Reread site rules,

            Not looking readers they are writers wassat Hi hi I hope to see you in the evening drinks
          2. Forward looking
            -1
            20 July 2013 08: 53
            I read it carefully and did not find the reason for deleting the comment! And what a writer you are. By the way, you can without emoticons, not serious.
          3. Dober
            0
            21 July 2013 10: 32
            Quote: Tersky
            Reread site rules,

            These ones-
            " hundreds of people from different religions and views communicate on the site, and all of them are full visitors to our site,
            ... On our site you need to behave respectfully to all visitors to the site.
            ...
            high-volume posts in online forums and chat rooms not carrying any useful information.

            And how to relate to this? This does not fall under violation of the rules of the site? Removing such garbage is not the responsibility of the moderators, or only admins make decisions.
            Quote: Ruslan67
            It’s not you who passed here several times? Will you leave yourself or help?
            ... I guarantee several more posts and an increase in the rank And since people like you do not know how to stay, you are on this site until the first awakened moderator. I have such a mood, you will be the third in two days ...
            ... I don’t like your face ...
            ...-sergeant! You forgot to ask what to do and when and with whom to communicate. Your dog-tribe tribe from Scandinavia is already tired ...
            ... And you go around the filter so that you do not wait long ...
            ... In two days, the third Who is next? ...
            Mimic-looking non-readers they are writers Hello In the evening I hope to see you ...

            Is this type too ascended?
        3. 0
          20 July 2013 09: 01
          There were almost no insults. There was a veiled mat. If you want, I can tell it. Your remote post is available to me
          1. 0
            20 July 2013 14: 06
            Piston, what are you? For the mat on the forum?
    2. +1
      20 July 2013 08: 35
      Reread your post. In it you contradict yourself.
      Quote: Forward Looking
      The accused shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty of a crime in the manner prescribed by this Code and established by a court verdict that has entered into legal force. Part 1 of Article 14 of the Code of Criminal Procedure. The verdict came into force? No! Why are you yelling like a victim?


      Quote: Forward Looking
      the situation with the same Vasilyeva? With Serdyukov? You dig in the wrong place and expose the wrong ones, first expose Putin, was it not he who put Zubkov's son-in-law on the post of minister, and did he not “smear” him at the press conference?

      Who was judged? I do not protect anyone, but try to be consistent in their judgments
      1. Forward looking
        -2
        20 July 2013 08: 38
        Quote: lewerlin53rus
        Who was judged? I do not protect anyone, but try to be consistent in their judgments

        Where did you find the discrepancy? Unfortunately, my comment has been deleted, and I can not quote it completely. So no one stole from us, neither Navalny, nor Vasiliev, nor Serdyukov, nor Luzhkov ... Not one of them was convicted! According to Navalny, I wrote. So where are the differences?
        If you are already reviewing, be impartial, not pour water into the mill.
        1. -1
          20 July 2013 08: 53
          Let me congratulate you on the next military rank! winked
          1. Forward looking
            -1
            20 July 2013 08: 55
            Quote: Alexej
            Let me congratulate you on the next military rank! winked

            I join, did not notice the shoulder straps vis-a-vis. If you can find out the general of which troops is my opponent, I hope not the Internet.
            1. 0
              20 July 2013 09: 03
              Quote: Forward Looking
              If you can find out the general of which troops is my opponent, I hope not the Internet.

              Can. Blogger troops brainwashing.
              1. +3
                20 July 2013 09: 12
                Quote: Alexej
                Blogger troops brainwashing.

                Disbanded to hell in view of the absence of the enemy! wassat
        2. +2
          20 July 2013 08: 58
          But what, have Vasilyev and Serdyukov already been tried and acquitted? Something I did not hear about the court.
          You do not agree with the court’s decision on Navalny and at the same time you affirm the guilt of Serdyukov and Vasilyeva without trial. Further, on the account of the United States. The author reiterates the idea that the Americans constantly accuse us of what they themselves are very successful. I recall the saying about the face and the mirror
          1. +5
            20 July 2013 13: 35
            Quote: lewerlin53rus
            Next, to the U.S. account


            By the way, the chief of Navalny McFall is very disappointed with the sentence of Navalny
            He wrote about this on July 18 on Twitter.
            "We are deeply disappointed with @Navalny's conviction and the clear political motives behind this lawsuit."
            ,

            You’re working shitty, comrade McFaul, they got criminals there and write off grants to them, human rights activists complain and strangled them with kickbacks. Money flows like a river, but where is the return? Where are the revolutions?
            In the place of the State Department, I would ask him such questions .. negative
  15. 0
    20 July 2013 07: 23
    Navalny along the way, "Will pile up and dump ..." And where everyone knows .. the path there has already been trodden bully
  16. +4
    20 July 2013 08: 00
    the judge nakosyachil here it BEFORE the sentence enters into force and released. There was no need to arrest at all.
  17. +2
    20 July 2013 08: 04
    posters in the style of "Putin is afraid of Navalny"

    Of course, PUTIN was scared ... after all, Navalny, a graduate of the American Institute for the Training of Democratic Leaders ... he was entrusted with a great mission by AMERA - SWAMP REVOLUTION in Russia ... and then there was some strange romance: "he stole - to prison, went out, stole again. .. again in ... ". Again, no way, who then will COULD RUSSIA TO DEMOCRACY? Is that Ksyusha SOBCHAK ... or Masha Gaidar ... but the latter is hiding behind the "hillock" after an accident ...
    How is it, with such a staffing hunger for amers, do not be afraid!
    We don’t know where Russia is heading,

    Strange .. your ffm! They don’t know ... WHERE? ... to your, western foundations - THE LAW OF THE LAW OVER ALL WITHOUT EXCLUSION, YOU ARE A POLITICIAN OR A SIMPLE Thief! For so many years they have called for this, and now they are surprised!
    and even personally the President of Estonia, Mr. Ilves: I am outraged.

    ..if even such an "outstanding democrat" who condones Nazi criminals is the same against ... then "Todi OH !!!" ... - DEMOCRACY, rolling ...
    In particular, the French journalist Pierre Lorraine urges his compatriots not to fall into hysteria about the “politicization” of the trial of Navalny, but to take a closer look at the documents in the case of thefts in Kirovles.

    Who cares! To sort it out ..., this is then ... here is a prominent fighter, PREPARED BY THE DESIGNATED LEADER, so to speak, by the compulsion of RUSSIA to democracy, "closed", and you urge to sort it out ... you have it in ...! H-i-i-z-i-i-ah-ah!
    According to Mikhail, for Navalny serving time in the "dungeons of the regime" will benefit: he will gain strength,

    ... the deadline must still be served in full ... and also not to forget about several more criminal cases, which were begun, far from a bargain bay, against the BALCK by the Investigative Committee.
    1. PB1995
      +2
      20 July 2013 12: 16
      .to your, western foundations - TO THE LAW OF THE LAW OVER ALL WITHOUT EXCLUSION, YOU ARE A POLITICIAN OR A SIMPLE Thief!
      You say so, as if it were something bad. If you are a thief, be kind to the zugunder, even if you are president.

      as well as not to forget about several more criminal cases, begun, far from the bay-floundering, against the BULK Investigative Committee.
      I wonder why they remembered the case when Navalny began to seriously put sticks in the wheels of our powerful: then United Russia member Zheleznyak, beating himself in the chest and calling himself a patriot, while children study abroad. The same Yakunin, head of the PID ... uh, that is, Russian Railways (and you look at the logo). Navalny said that he has a cottage with a "fur coat storage" and a tunnel leading to an underground parking lot (vroed, that's all for him). Moreover, as far as I know, an examination that would show whether there is damage or not was not carried out. In addition, the judge refused to call all the witnesses for the defense (they could have said that Navalny was innocent).
  18. -1
    20 July 2013 08: 05
    Quote: Ragnarek
    the judge nakosyachil here it BEFORE the sentence enters into force and released. There was no need to arrest at all.

    It would not be interesting ... laughing
  19. Valery Neonov
    0
    20 July 2013 08: 20
    Quote: Alexej
    Learned how to catch, learn to plant soon.

    On the main "witnesses" of the modern history of Russia: "The Main Military Investigation Directorate (GVSU) of the TFR has opened another criminal case, the main persons involved in which may be the former head of the Department of Property Relations (DIO) of the Ministry of Defense Yevgeny Vasilyeva and ex-Minister Anatoly Serdyukov. "- maybe now TFR will make happy, but ...

    Read more: http://top.rbc.ru/politics/20/07/2013/866884.shtml
  20. Master Taiga
    -9
    20 July 2013 08: 25
    People did not marry Navalny. People went against Putin and his thieves' company.
    And insulting these people, you insult part of your people. And not the worst part of it.
    1. +5
      20 July 2013 10: 27
      French taiga owner you, that husband in the morning did not satisfy? What wound up in the morning? Decided to stand up for his same-sex fraternity?
    2. +7
      20 July 2013 11: 31
      Quote: Taiga Master
      People did not marry Navalny. People went against Putin and his thieves' company.

      Over the bulk thief went his sixes with white ribbons.
      Quote: Taiga Master
      . And not the worst part of it.

      Not the worst, but the worst of the worst. Show me those not the worst who rallied for him there. Gays, Natsik on the same stage with gays is a society you call not the worst?
    3. 0
      21 July 2013 04: 21
      Quote: Taiga Master
      People did not marry Navalny. People went against Putin and his thieves' company.
      And insulting these people, you insult part of your people. And not the worst part of it.


      excuse me what kind of part did you mean here hi
  21. 0
    20 July 2013 08: 29
    McCainey I hope Navalny congratulated him on the wonderful release .. The entire "world community" was worried about him bully
    1. Master Taiga
      -2
      20 July 2013 08: 36
      Western leaders congratulated Gagarin on their first flight into space, therefore Gagarin is an agent of the West, designed to destroy Soviet cosmonautics. And the current Foreign Minister Lavrov also studied in America, as did Navalny. Also an agent?
      1. olviko
        +9
        20 July 2013 09: 49
        Demagogy, dear, is not the best way to clarify the truth. Gagarin and Lavrov worked and work for us, and Navalny and people like him are for you. That’s the whole truth. I have not heard from Navalny a single condemnation of the Yeltsin-Gaidar-Chubais gang, a call to judge those who robbed Russia in the 90s. Hedgehog it is clear that the task of Navalny is the blue dream of the West, to bring down Putin. Of course, what’s going on under Putin is also a mess, but I personally don’t believe in Navalny’s sincerity that he allegedly fights for Russia's interests.
        1. Constantine
          -1
          20 July 2013 10: 56
          Olivko, this character, apparently, decided to just check Goebels’s theory that if you repeat the lie many times, it will become true) True, somehow it turns out crookedly: D
  22. 0
    20 July 2013 08: 52
    Quote: Canep
    That is, it was not the politician who was tried for theft, but the thief was given a lenient sentence because he became a politician.

    The thief must sit, and he is promoted to politics ....
    Very indicative of the current government .....
  23. 0
    20 July 2013 08: 54
    Quote: Taiga Master
    Western leaders congratulated Gagarin on their first flight into space, therefore Gagarin is an agent of the West, designed to destroy Soviet cosmonautics. And the current Foreign Minister Lavrov also studied in America, as did Navalny. Also an agent?

    Lavrov, and especially Gagarin, did not steal, I use my official position and comparison is not appropriate here .. Navalny will soon fall down ..
    1. Forward looking
      0
      20 July 2013 08: 56
      Gagarin, do not touch !!!
    2. Master Taiga
      -3
      20 July 2013 09: 00
      So big, but you believe in fairy tales ... You probably also believe in Santa Claus.
      1. Constantine
        0
        20 July 2013 10: 56
        Have you ever looked at your tales? Children in kindergarten are more convincing)
  24. Master Taiga
    +4
    20 July 2013 09: 07
    MOSCOW, July 20 - RIA Novosti. The Main Military Investigation Department of the TFR has opened another criminal case on abuse of office in the removal of 613 hectares of land in the Leningrad Region from the Ministry of Defense, as a result of which the damage to the state amounted to about a billion rubles, the Kommersant newspaper writes on Saturday.
    Vasilyeva is suspected of another scam with land worth 600 million rubles
    In early April, the Main Military Prosecutor's Office reported that the former head of the Department of Property Relations of the Ministry of Defense Evgenia Vasilyeva may be involved in the illegal transfer of land for rent in the Leningrad region with damage to the state on 1 billion rubles. According to the agency, in September 2010 Vasiliev approved the boundary plan of the Levash military training ground in the city of Sertolovo in the Leningrad region, reducing its initial size by 613 hectares.

    That's much more interesting.
    1. +2
      20 July 2013 14: 43
      That's much more interesting.


      Of course. This is only in Russia they steal. And in the West, everyone is in white clothes, smiling, honest ... If they hadn’t gotten into each other’s asses, then finally- idyll

      New corruption cases are opening in Russia, time will tell whether someone will be imprisoned or not.
      In Europe and the Americas, too, they steal, and you don’t plant anyone either. Or put sixes. The system however.
  25. +8
    20 July 2013 09: 10
    Enough to minus (in quiet) liberians write better .. I’m here Navalny and Nemtsov do not like their eyes are cunning cunning .. They are torn to power and earn money on pop music .. I must have it for the opposition !! But so that from the inside of Russia, as opposed to power And you look at these parrots and get baptized, God forbid they come to power .. All the mother’s khan of Russia
    1. Constantine
      +3
      20 July 2013 10: 58
      When the sane arguments end, except in a minus they are not able to spoil) These are liberals! Everyone who does not share the point of view of the owner is the one, but it is necessary to cut out by any means. Even spam, cons, etc. ) Classic :)
  26. 128mgb
    +1
    20 July 2013 09: 13
    Quote: Taiga Master
    People did not marry Navalny. People went against Putin and his thieves' company.
    And insulting these people, you insult part of your people. And not the worst part of it.

    Yes, we have seen enough of these offended, with a soul turns back. Almost everyone is "unconventional". And the best criteria are the worst for everyone.
  27. +6
    20 July 2013 09: 18
    Some kind of heated debate about who is more thieves!

    If Navalny stole something, then stole using the imperfection of our legislation. No one has read the full materials of the case to make any converse statements. According to the publications that were available: Navalny’s actions were not in the sphere of the notion of an official, as the subject of the application of criminal law, but the court took place with a lot of procedural violations. In principle, the defense had almost every chance of a reversal of the sentence.

    The actions of the authorities are explained according to a long-known scheme: the main thing is to get a conviction without interest in the reality of the punishment. This practice is widely used by courts on the principle: the wolves are full - the sheep are whole.
    1. lx
      lx
      +8
      20 July 2013 11: 34
      I read the case file. I want to say - it is surprising that they discuss what they have not read, but in fact it does not surprise. Actually, the point is not even that the case was fabricated, but that the UK did not even bother to fabricate it normally. Hackwork is a symbol of today's Russia. The court will do what they say - and so it will. There is no justification in the case that generally someone stole something, and most importantly there is no justification for Navalny’s guilt. Any intentional crime involves a motive. The IC in the indictment did not bother to somehow formulate this motive: neither material gain (as he received any money from it or was going to receive it), nor something more ridiculous - personal hostility towards Opalev, Kirovles, Putin or simply for fun. Just nothing. It’s like diplomas, which, as a rule, no one reads entirely, and therefore in the middle they write any garbage. Only then did they know what the Major Boys, covered by their dad and confident in their own impunity, would read and brazenly sit on the defense, relish the professor's embarrassment. But the point still contracted - they gave the command to let it go so far.
  28. +2
    20 July 2013 09: 20
    The great-grandmother of the Russian opposition, Lyudmila Alekseeva, declares that by the verdict of Alexei Navalny, Russia is throwing itself back into the Soviet era "

    why am I for the USSR ...
    At the same time, Ms. Alekseeva calls on the West to fight against what is happening in Russia today.

    I’m even for the 37 year and for the 45 year too ...
    1. +2
      20 July 2013 10: 00
      Quote: SPACE
      The great-grandmother of the Russian opposition, Lyudmila Alekseeva, declares that by the verdict of Alexei Navalny, Russia is throwing itself back into the Soviet era "

      why am I for the USSR ...
      At the same time, Ms. Alekseeva calls on the West to fight against what is happening in Russia today.

      I’m even for the 37 year and for the 45 year too ...
      there are already two of us! hi
      1. sleepy
        0
        20 July 2013 19: 20
        Quote: SPACE
        "... and what, I am for the USSR ..."


        In the USSR, the main means of production belonged to the state.
        Are you for nationalization?
        1. yur
          yur
          +1
          20 July 2013 23: 54
          Yes. With all hands and feet FOR.
      2. yur
        yur
        0
        20 July 2013 23: 51
        I'm with you guys.
  29. +2
    20 July 2013 09: 25
    Because of the leapfrog with Navalny, I draw two conclusions:
    - At the top, the struggle between the "Yeltsinists" and the "siloviki" continues.
    - someone strongly encourages the opposition to future protests - look, they say, the government is afraid of you.
  30. +1
    20 July 2013 09: 27
    from the Don.
    A thief must sit! And Navalny is a thief! Only what to do with Vasilyeva, Serdyuk and a hedgehog with them? Where is ours: the most humane court in the world :?
    1. 0
      20 July 2013 20: 52
      Quote: borisjdin1957
      from the Don.
      A thief must sit! And Navalny is a thief! Only what to do with Vasilyeva, Serdyuk and a hedgehog with them? Where is ours: the most humane court in the world :?

      It comes to court, then we'll see.
      1. +2
        20 July 2013 23: 48
        But the matter will not reach any court. If we would like to condemn Madame Vasilyeva, she would have been imprisoned long ago (for some paintings that were discovered during the search). Taburetkin, in the end, will be generally recognized as a victim and will receive the right to compensation for moral and material damage
  31. +1
    20 July 2013 09: 51
    Bulk simply the toilet through which the drains of drains in the right direction. He is not the first and not the last in the role of whistleblowers ... the current doesn’t say that he himself dug-up ... and all with legal methods ... and the special services of which countries he represents let him call ... infa obviously from them .
  32. +3
    20 July 2013 09: 53
    Bulk pocket thief .. Serdyuk is silent so far there is no direct evidence (he is a pawn in this confusing scheme) Of course it's easier to put him (but the redhead is involved here) This sly fox is slippery bastard and his patrons in the west and in Russia .. It's a pity that his Kvachkov is not slammed .. How much this red-haired beast of Russia did much harm .. Okay, something incurred me hehe ..
  33. volvo
    +2
    20 July 2013 10: 43
    bulk is a litmus test. let's look at the elections, the brains of the Muscovites got up))))
  34. 0
    20 July 2013 10: 44
    [quote = MIKHAN] [quote = Ragnarek] the judge screwed up this one BEFORE the sentence enters into force and was released. Generally it was not necessary to arrest. [/ Quote]
    It would not be interesting ... laughing[/ quote
    I agree. power is also not without a sadistic sense of humor
  35. Rif
    +2
    20 July 2013 11: 00
    There used to be "thieves in law" now they are legitimate thieves, if Lebirast has a goal of life to make a profit at any cost, and political activity in modern Russia makes it possible to escape from inevitable punishment, any thief at the first opportunity will sign up as a political fighter and certainly for the happiness of the people, and bulk corresponds, he is a proven thief in court and a recognized politician by all "handshakes".
  36. 0
    20 July 2013 11: 05
    It seems they fought back ... (the wave was asleep) ... Humor will save the world of Ragnarek //
    1. sleepy
      0
      20 July 2013 22: 15
      Beauty will save the world. Tiferet.
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  38. +8
    20 July 2013 11: 24
    I feel sorry for these truth-seekers.
    They sincerely believe that by changing the course of the country we will live better.
    Naive.
    1. +5
      20 July 2013 13: 08
      But I liked it ...
  39. Constantine
    +1
    20 July 2013 11: 59
    Character Master Taiga, after all his statements, must be invited to the program Malakhov "Let CoCoCo". He will be like a glove there. wassat
  40. +3
    20 July 2013 12: 11
    Lyudmila Alekseeva declares that by the sentence to Alexei Navalny, Russia throws itself off during the Soviet era.
    Well, maybe we don’t mind in the days of the USSR, just setting up Navalny is not enough for this. hi
    1. 0
      20 July 2013 13: 53
      Quote: Zerstorer
      Lyudmila Alekseeva declares
      Is this old ... still alive with many citizenships?
  41. vovka
    +12
    20 July 2013 12: 23
    As a lawyer (formerly a military investigator), I want to inform you that it is considered unacceptable in the lawyer community to comment on decisions of a court, investigator, or prosecutor until you yourself have read the criminal case, i.e. for himself he estimated the totality, admissibility, completeness of evidence, i.e. concluded that evidence. Without this, any comments are just verbiage on the topic of their preferences. I think that none of the commentators I respect have read the case!
    1. Constantine
      0
      20 July 2013 14: 47
      Nobody read it here) and there too) Neither McCain, nor his colleagues, nor RBC journalists and their colleagues))
    2. 0
      23 July 2013 09: 41
      Well, no one claims to be correct from a legal point of view. This gentleman (Navalny) participated in destabilizing the political situation in the country (and plans his actions in this direction further). And with the help of which they neutralize it (there are many options: a court case, an accident, a heart-to-heart talk with personal consequences) I am not interested in.

      PS I'm interested in justice, not law.
  42. rruvimbenrafail
    -4
    20 July 2013 12: 36
    Gentlemen! Yes, that you and Navalny are looking for conspiracy theories. Everything is simple there, Navalny had no dough, he was not interesting to anyone. Blinov, reading the prosecutor's sentence sadly, stupidly understood that he would receive nothing from Lesha, except for a promotion by 1600 rubles more. Which I got before the trial. And he has a couple of hucksters on the "tackle". The prosecutor also understood that he had a five-digit case in Moscow, and then some kind of Navalny. People in generals' uniforms under their jackets gathered for a boring meeting: "What to do, a crowd will come from Kirov in the morning to meet him?" Everyone is bored ... "Well, declare an anti-terrorist operation!" - said the most bored one. And when the smartest one said: "Lyokhe, someone transferred the money!" Everyone perked up ...
    1. Constantine
      -2
      20 July 2013 14: 48
      Did you also want to go to Cococo to Malakhov? wassat
      1. rruvimbenrafail
        +3
        20 July 2013 17: 24
        I do not know who Malakhov is?
        1. +1
          20 July 2013 18: 01
          You yourself do not know your happiness! I would also not know with pleasure who Malakhov is ...
      2. +3
        21 July 2013 08: 37
        Quote: Constantine
        Also on "Cococo"

        You "actively" earn money there. just calling? ...
  43. Valery Neonov
    0
    20 July 2013 12: 38
    Quote: bomg.77
    there are already two of us

    Quote: SPACE
    I’m even for the 37 year and for the 45 year too ...

    Why is it only two, no, not two, and the 70s can be returned at least, and then the effect would not be bad. At the age of 15, to get around the bulk of his "pickpocketing"!
  44. rruvimbenrafail
    -1
    20 July 2013 12: 38
    The system, however ... Or the same!
  45. 0
    20 July 2013 12: 45
    and Navalny’s “forester”, you know, was afraid ... And so he handed over to the Kirov judge: Pancakes, I’m afraid of Navalny like fire,

    Yeah, I feel such dislike that I can even eat
  46. 0
    20 July 2013 12: 48
    It would be better if he fled in an unknown direction, hid, for example, at the bottom of the well or in the crematorium’s furnace, they would definitely not find him there.
  47. -2
    20 July 2013 12: 57
    Well, when will this Sabbath of liberal witches end? Well, when will they finally handcuff the "liberal officials" who easily release thieves and scum like Navalny? Putin, when will you wake up, we are tired of waiting!
    1. -2
      20 July 2013 13: 57
      Quote: kartalovkolya
      sabbath of liberal witches
      Are you talking about these?
      Quote: Zerstorer
      Lyudmila Alekseeva declares
      So it only flares up
  48. rruvimbenrafail
    -6
    20 July 2013 12: 59
    Banned, the same comment. I will write again. The system of the "foreman" is simple. Only the "loot". Judge Blinov, reading out the verdict to a certain Navalny, obviously bored, was very worried that she could not participate in the trial of two hucksters, where something “shone” for him. You can’t take it from Navalny, except for upgrading to “adviser ...” by 1600 rubles. per month. The prosecutor was thinking about the "tails" in Moscow on a larger "luminary". People in uniform in Moscow did not come up with anything better than to announce the CTO at the Yaroslavl Station. Not because they are stupid, but simply they are not interested. Here’s Magnitsky’s “shake” ... And most importantly, the huckster is less and less. Around the State Corporation, where 51% of the State, and 49% of those who represent this State. They eat themselves. Our “commissioner” surrounded himself with Rotenbergs, Vekselbergs, etc. But Navalny turned out to be like the Titanic in the Atlantic on that “unfortunate” night. Which iceberg will crush it?
    1. shpuntik
      0
      20 July 2013 14: 43
      Alexey Navalny studied at Yale University in the second half of 2010 under the Yale World Fellow Program. Nicht ferstein entered in English, although, for ordinary mortals entering Yale, knowledge of the language at a serious level is mandatory.

      rruvimbenrafail RU Today, 12:59 PM
      But Navalny turned out to be like the Titanic in the Atlantic on that “unfortunate” night. Which iceberg will crush it?


      Navalny studied at the wrong institute laughing .
      "Navalny" is more of a pseudonym. Dig deeper, it turns out to be some kind of Blank :-)

      Yale graduates - members of the secret society "Skull and Bones"Yale graduates - members of the secret society "Skull and Bones"

      http://www.indiansworld.org/Nonmeso/geronimo_afterlife.html#.Uepna417I1M
      1. Yarosvet
        +1
        20 July 2013 15: 27
        Quote: shpuntik
        Navalny "rather a pseudonym. Dig deeper, it turns out to be some kind of Blank

        Navalny - from the Old Testament name "Naval" (madness).
        1. shpuntik
          0
          20 July 2013 18: 46
          Yarosvet RU Today, 15:27 ↑
          Navalny - from the Old Testament name "Naval" (madness).

          A hard jab. laughing
          http://enc-dic.com/enc_bible/Naval-2779.html Video, "... just not a smart person ...":
          1. Yarosvet
            +2
            20 July 2013 22: 13
            Quote: shpuntik

            Why are you posting such a pig-like abomination on public display? laughing
          2. antonio
            +1
            20 July 2013 22: 35
            Oh shit surfaced, take a look at how much mud and mold on them ...
            Zombies probably Amerkosovsky boteks, pumped up ...
          3. 0
            21 July 2013 03: 13
            damn, who cares about the opinion of this old toad that has survived from the mind? lol
      2. rruvimbenrafail
        -2
        20 July 2013 15: 49
        If you dig all, then surely Blanks. And to Adam and Eve ...
        1. shpuntik
          +1
          20 July 2013 18: 48
          Negative rating
          rruvimbenrafail RU Today, 15:49 PM ↑
          If you dig all, then surely Blanks. And to Adam and Eve ...

          Well, this is a "dive", with a departure to the side laughing .
  49. diesel
    +2
    20 July 2013 13: 06
    Those who know, explain why Kvachkov is in prison, Navalny is free, is rude, goes to the Kremlin for receptions, in the mayor he dabbles?
    1. olviko
      +5
      20 July 2013 14: 22
      Explain: KVACHKOV NOT STORED ANYTHING!
  50. rruvimbenrafail
    -3
    20 July 2013 13: 08
    And about "world opinion". All articles in the West continue on a minor note: "... although Navalny is a Russian nationalist."
  51. sashka
    +3
    20 July 2013 13: 13
    Alexey Volodin..Let’s just “define” who is a “liberal” and who is a “liberalist”.. All these double meanings introduce some “misconception” about the topic in question.. The topic is “complicated”, this is understandable.. After all, I don’t know you’ll run away..Who is a “liberal” and who is a “liberalist”. I would like to wait for an answer, probably it’s unlikely..As far as I know, both Pu and the iPhone guy are Liberals.. Then where did the nickname “liberalists” come from???
    1. +1
      20 July 2013 17: 16
      Alexander, well, you are a smart (I hope) person, and you understand that the use of the term “liberals” in the article simply does not meet the norms of the Russian language, that’s all... By the way, if you really want to wait for an answer, then write in a personal message (also everything is simple), because it is often not possible to track all comments.
    2. sleepy
      +2
      20 July 2013 19: 29
      Quote: Sasha
      “...who is “liberal” and who is “liberal”...
      All these double meanings introduce some “misconception”..."


      It would be nice to determine who is a communist and who is a party member.
      Who is a democrat and who is a servant of the people.
  52. -1
    20 July 2013 13: 22
    Well, there are no unsullied businessmen in Russia, this is what the authorities are using at the moment, everyone can be taken for coca and they themselves are to blame, according to the Criminal Code, Navalny deserved 100%, well, he’s not Sakharov no matter how you look at it, well, he doesn’t look like a dissident (prisoner of conscience ) he didn’t do anything useful for the country, what did he say? like Snowden, only what everyone knew without him, they steal and steal, one embezzler shoots others while earning political points.
  53. rruvimbenrafail
    -8
    20 July 2013 13: 22
    And then look at the faces: Navalny hugging his wife, or Pu, who is divorcing his wife. And in Chita, after the work of cosmetologists, “such a youthful guy” broadcasts: “There is no need for airborne forces, the weather is bad, we won’t take risks” (I’m not verbatim). Even Gerasimov didn’t understand... And because the “foreman” has a plane, he still has to report to the State Department.
    1. +1
      20 July 2013 13: 25
      And then look at Obama's wife, isn't she a monkey? Draw parallels that the scribe.
      1. 0
        20 July 2013 14: 16
        Why don’t you remember the European democrats Berlusconi and Sarkozy?
        1. rruvimbenrafail
          -2
          20 July 2013 17: 09
          The faces are similar... Only cosmetologists!
    2. sashka
      +3
      20 July 2013 13: 35
      Quote: rruvimbenrafail
      And then look at the faces:

      Look at the “faces” There are no more questions. Glory!!!. Glory to the Great.!!!
    3. antonio
      +1
      20 July 2013 14: 26
      Even if he hugs the pillar, what difference does it make? Shit and bulk and a person without moral principles if you condemn all embezzlers and don’t steal yourself. And so it turned out that I can, but others can’t?
      1. +2
        21 July 2013 03: 16
        did you hold a candle?? How do you know who stole and who didn’t??
        or do you “have your own opinion” for the 85 rubles paid to you?
      2. +1
        21 July 2013 15: 01
        Quote: antonio
        Even if he hugs the pillar, what difference does it make? Shit and bulk and a person without moral principles if you condemn all embezzlers and don’t steal yourself. And so it turned out that I can, but others can’t?

        Tell me who your friend is and I will say who you are. wassat
        1. +1
          21 July 2013 15: 05
          Quote: sergo0000
          Quote: antonio
          Even if he hugs the pillar, what difference does it make? Shit and bulk and a person without moral principles if you condemn all embezzlers and don’t steal yourself. And so it turned out that I can, but others can’t?

          Tell me who your friend is and I will say who you are. wassat
  54. 0
    20 July 2013 13: 25
    Quote: Civil
    Hmm, before the site was pro-Putin, and the people seemed to support the power and were against the liberals, but now it’s not possible to understand whether it’s against the liberals or against Putin ....

    But in my opinion, the site was neither “pro-Putin” nor “anti-Putin”. The site is neither FOR nor AGAINST, it provides a platform for statements, discussions, exchange of opinions, giving someone the opportunity to “cry into their vest,” for someone to “pour out their soul,” for someone to grieve about a “bright future.”
    1. sashka
      +4
      20 July 2013 13: 46
      Not a FACT.. The site is located in Germany.. And everything settles “there”. More questions and answers:???
      1. +3
        20 July 2013 17: 33
        The answer is: what is there in Germany... The entire site is under the thumb of the State Department, MI6 and the Qatari state security service, and all its employees receive salaries exclusively in foreign currency and undergo political information courses in al-Qaeda training camps... The site is a foreign agent , just shhhhhhh...
        1. sleepy
          0
          20 July 2013 20: 23
          Quote Volodin
          "...The entire site is under the thumb of the State Department..."


          Then in the header of the site http://topwar.ru/
          you need to write something like
          "This site is located on a server in the USA (or Germany or Israel)
          and does not fall under the jurisdiction of Russian laws.
          1. +4
            21 July 2013 09: 22
            I’ll explain it 100-500 times for “advanced” Internet users. The site must be physically located somewhere. It is located on the server, the server is on the hard drive, For the disk rented place in a data center located in Germany. Why in Germany, and not in Russia, and because our data centers charge ten times more money for such services, rent, than the Germans and the service, alas, is better in Germany. This site was created with our money and is now supported by advertising and does not receive any subsidies, every penny counts, so we choose where it is more financially profitable. And not because of jurisdiction and any other nonsense. Everything else is your speculation!
  55. rruvimbenrafail
    0
    20 July 2013 13: 35
    And there is one more moment of the Lord! Navalny is not a system specialist. Remember Dmitry Rogozin, through his KRO and Rodina he achieved impressive results in the State Duma elections. But by agreeing to accept the “honorary” post as a representative of NATO, all the “k...l”. Where is this “Motherland” now? And Navalny was offered to join the systemic opposition. But they realized that you couldn’t make money from it. Too naive. Even Edik Limonov wrote about this in Vlast. Navalny is not a politician. But all the paradoxes of history lie in this: everyone is outside the system and then forms a new SYSTEM.
    1. antonio
      -2
      20 July 2013 14: 30
      Oh, a system specialist, and what a system specialist, in the pocket of the Kremlin
  56. sashka
    +6
    20 July 2013 13: 42
    They're not even close. “Our” “president” taught storks to fly in the right direction. This is the head of the “state”, the rest are not standing nearby..
    1. rruvimbenrafail
      +2
      20 July 2013 17: 30
      Our president takes out amphoras from the bottom. The Greek brothers are shocked; according to the laws of Greece, this is a “black” search and requires consideration by the archaeological commission of the Republic.
      1. Yarosvet
        +3
        20 July 2013 22: 18
        Quote: rruvimbenrafail
        Our president takes out amphoras from the bottom. The Greek brothers are shocked; according to the laws of Greece, this is a “black” search and requires consideration by the archaeological commission of the Republic.
  57. rruvimbenrafail
    -3
    20 July 2013 13: 47
    And what do liberals have to do with it? Any sane person can see what's happening. I myself have voted for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation all my life. Well, I thought that they would at least find literate people. and THEY Melnikov for Mayor of Moscow. And everyone is worried about Navalny: liberals, liberals, communists, nationalists, and half-hearted gays. And even on the sly Prokhanov and Shevchenko. “Brigadier” just got to everyone. Since the fifth largest economy in the world cannot have broken roads in the Vladimir region, 150 kilometers from Moscow.
  58. trader371
    +3
    20 July 2013 13: 48
    Good afternoon everyone. I am newbie. But I’ve been reading this site for a year now. I read and “suffer” - if you take in everything that is happening at once. There is my (possibly clumsy) wish for the “GURU” - an article-analysis on the topic “where are we going. Brothers???” And this is not about politics, but about the moral content of the NATION. And please do not focus on politics, because... the majority (of OUR people) cannot even translate this word (unfortunately). Maybe. out of place and on the wrong site, but, apparently, this is where patriots communicate, and I don’t know (honestly) where else I can find like-minded people. I constantly read the news, and...”LORD!!!, why is this in my HOUSE?!" Or have we lost our self-esteem? And here I am writing because the site is interesting and “the disease of society (passivity, indifference, etc.”) is worse than war. Therefore, I ask for an article, or better yet, “chew it up” to EVERYONE and PROPAGANDATE it

    peacefulness!!!!
    about myself - I served!!! 1986-1989 Severomorsk um "desperate". 1 long-range and “little things” all three years.
    1. sleepy
      0
      20 July 2013 21: 18
      Quote: trader371
      "...analysis on the topic “Where are we going, brothers???”


      We go where they lead.
      Who is leading where we will go?
      God forbid...
  59. rruvimbenrafail
    -3
    20 July 2013 13: 59
    Society is not indifferent. It’s just divided into two categories, like lawyers: “Some know the laws, others know the judges.” But a third category appeared: “We will judge not by the law, but by Conscience.” And there are more and more of them...
    1. trader371
      +2
      20 July 2013 14: 05
      Of course not. We experience everything, which means we are not indifferent! BUT, either in the kitchen or out loud!!!!
      Some are afraid, others are not! sad!!! but that makes all the difference!!!!
      I am not calling for a REVOLUTION!!!! But. I urge you not to BE SILENT. when you see INJUSTICE.
  60. +2
    20 July 2013 14: 08
    The trend is to announce that Snowden must be extradited to the United States so as not to harm Russian-American friendship (for what, excuse me?..)

    Gee gee gee!!! good good good
    1. rruvimbenrafail
      -3
      20 July 2013 17: 10
      Exchange Snowden for Booth!
  61. +1
    20 July 2013 14: 20
    You just need to let Navalny become mayor, and then in a year it’s all the same either he steals or rises higher.
    1. +2
      20 July 2013 14: 49
      Quote: bubla5
      We just need to let Navalny become mayor,

      I am for, 15-20 years, the mayor of the colony in Kolyma.
  62. antonio
    -3
    20 July 2013 14: 22
    And an article in support of this shit (I don’t want to write the freak’s name out of principle), why do we need quotes from all sorts of garbage dumps around the world? Kakashvili that someone is worth listening to? or some other little-known personalities? What kind of CIA agent is he? Come to your senses, these guys don’t work with this kind of shit... apparently they’re disdainful. He is one of our elite, a tame opposition leader, for the worship of liberals and other stupid intelligent rubbish, they defend their own because it is fashionable...
    For some reason, Forbes magazine did not come to his defense of this thief.
  63. shpuntik
    0
    20 July 2013 14: 27
    Navalny needs to be sent to a cell with Vladimir Vasilyevich Kvachkov - he will educate him.
    1. -2
      20 July 2013 21: 02
      Quote: shpuntik
      Navalny needs to be sent to a cell with Vladimir Vasilyevich Kvachkov - he will educate him.

      It’s better to replace... Kvachkov, there’s nothing to do there, but Navalny is just right.
  64. rruvimbenrafail
    0
    20 July 2013 14: 28
    As mayor of Yaroslavl. For five months he did not give “salaries” to the security forces, and did not send them to Moscow. And Moscow, further, did not send a share to Dagestan or Sochi. All his subordinates were running around: “Well, this is normal! This is how the SYSTEM works.” He broke down... And for five months of non-payment, they gave him a “video broadcast” through the “box”. Don't spoil! Yes!
  65. -1
    20 July 2013 14: 30
    bomg.77
    let the office plankton calm down


    They let him go so that he could still mess up, so that there would be no doubts
  66. rruvimbenrafail
    -4
    20 July 2013 14: 38
    Any businessman messes up, and the office poster feeds on them. Take and transplant everyone. And who will feed “Pu”, “Taburetkina” and his ladies? Security forces? Or Patrushev and company.
  67. -1
    20 July 2013 14: 43
    Quote: dizelniy

    diesel


    Today, 13: 06




    Those who know, explain why Kvachkov is in prison, Navalny is free, is rude, goes to the Kremlin for receptions, in the mayor he dabbles?



    Kvachkov is a patriot, but, unfortunately, he has little knowledge of the history of his native country, because all the coups and revolutions in Russia were organized by the arrogant Saxons and the hedgehog with them. That’s why the Western media are silent about him and the grandees are not transferring him to release.
  68. 0
    20 July 2013 14: 51
    Sorry, but in order to discuss a freak you have to become a freak. Sorry I paraphrased the classics.
    I was more surprised by the quoting of statements from this site on Channel One.
  69. work566
    +2
    20 July 2013 15: 01
    I would like to remind those who have forgotten that Navalny was found by Albats
    and sent to the USA to study under the training program
    young politicians. The idea is simple: upon returning to Russia
    promote it via the Internet on the hot topic of corruption and repeat the option
    with Yeltsin. It worked out once, why not pass
    for the second time. The Russian people are "". We picked a man who
    He even looks like Yeltsin.
    We need to talk about who supervised Navalny in the USA
    and whose protege is he?
    I see that now our people are growing up quickly and I hope they don’t buy it
    on bullshit, like in 91.
    And it’s time for GDP to stop sitting on two chairs. Orange
    It's time to remove him from the leadership of the country. Otherwise they will remove
    VVP himself. Yesterday on the RBC channel I watched a program with the presenter
    Vittelem. Boris Kagarlitsky and Chubais’ brother were present.
    So they, in their characteristic arrogant manner, directly stated,
    that VVP is waiting for a prison, a Strasbourg court, and then like Milosevic.
    He was killed in a prison cell, if you remember.
    And Navalny should be the president.
    What happened to Serbia, who remembers? Bombing, dismemberment,
    exclusion of territories, humiliation.
    What could happen to Russia is even scary to think about.
    1. rruvimbenrafail
      -4
      20 July 2013 16: 14
      Well, Albats found it, being a descendant of a certain “Knee” Navalny. So what? Yes, she found many, that’s her job. Why shoot yourself now? If all the relatives of current politicians and officials whom Albats “found” are posted on the forum, the server will close...
      1. work566
        +2
        20 July 2013 18: 51
        You really need to think with your head! Albats and her fellow fighters
        They never do anything with Russia by accident or just like that.
  70. rruvimbenrafail
    +2
    20 July 2013 15: 02
    Kvachkov is a hero. Veteran and hero. But he is marginal. And the marginalized are simply “shut down.” But if there are a bunch of “Putinoids” on the site, then the question is: why was Kvachkov closed several times? What threat did he pose to the regime? And why are they trying to shut down Navalny, making him a “heavyweight”? The answer is simple: they eat themselves. Without remorse. And we have to travel by electric trains, or used foreign cars. Clap your hands to wrestlers from Dagestan, at the Olympics, or our other hockey players, and believe that there is a domestic quarrel in Pugachev. Still believe that the 400th complex can shoot down a target at an altitude of 150 km. They are also afraid to do business without the protection of the cops. Because adding value is a crime. And when a person appears who says that Putin will be in prison during my lifetime. The screams begin - this is a Kremlin project. This is the Kremlin... More like St. Petersburg, the city of three revolutions.
    1. work566
      +1
      20 July 2013 15: 54
      Another revolution in Russia and the country is over. Another
      Russia will not survive the revolution.
      Our “partner” the USA will not miss such a chance this time.
      Only reforms carried out “from above” were successful.
      And it’s in vain that you call people “Putinoids”.
      Here people are quite critical of GDP.
      1. rruvimbenrafail
        -4
        20 July 2013 16: 18
        May the country not end. She's been gone for 15 years now. There is a layer between China and the West, between Iran and the West. All!!! We will be cherished for many years to come. Everyone needs us, both China and America.
  71. rruvimbenrafail
    -5
    20 July 2013 15: 08
    And about the dismemberment of Russia. But there has been no united Russia for a long time. In times of globalization, there are no single territories at all. The only question is who controls financial flows and where. Siberia has long belonged to the people who own Chelsea. The Caucasus is clear to anyone. I’m silent about the Urals...
    1. 0
      20 July 2013 16: 45
      May the country not end. She's been gone for 15 years now. There is a layer between China and the West,

      And about the dismemberment of Russia. But there has been no united Russia for a long time


      And don't even hope. Many people have already dug Russia’s grave, but somehow came to nothing. But Russia is standing.
      And yet, I gave you a “-” for each statement.
      1. rruvimbenrafail
        0
        20 July 2013 17: 14
        With your prayers. I want to believe that there is Russia. It’s impossible not to believe, but you also have to think!
        1. -1
          20 July 2013 17: 54
          And where would we be without faith or hope? And of course you need to think. The fact is that I don’t trust Navalny, but I still don’t trust Putin, and I hope it’s not in vain. Well, if they... are deceived, then
  72. -1
    20 July 2013 15: 11
    Why Kvachkov was closed is stated in the verdict of guilty “for preparing a coup.” Good goals, which I generally support, at least in relation to the redhead, but not by good methods, contrary to the law of ANY country. And regarding the s400 - no comments.


    1. rruvimbenrafail
      -1
      20 July 2013 17: 58
      Five and a half people! Coup. But 400 doesn’t have a rocket...
  73. +2
    20 July 2013 15: 12
    Quote: vovka
    As a lawyer (formerly a military investigator), I want to inform you that it is considered unacceptable in the lawyer community to comment on decisions of a court, investigator, or prosecutor until you yourself have read the criminal case, i.e. for himself he estimated the totality, admissibility, completeness of evidence, i.e. concluded that evidence. Without this, any comments are just verbiage on the topic of their preferences. I think that none of the commentators I respect have read the case!


    Not at all, colleague! You don't have to eat the whole pudding to know if it's rotten. I agree with you only in that part of the judgment about evidence, because. This is due to the application of Article 17 of the Code of Criminal Procedure and this conclusion is based on the personal conviction of the investigator and the judge, provided that the grandfather was accepted for proceedings. The activity of, for example, a judge can also be assessed by personally observing his actions in violation of procedural norms.
  74. malikszh
    -4
    20 July 2013 15: 19
    he is an American spy who studied in the USA and trained him in addition to Sakashvili, Tymoshenko, Yushchenko, Udaltsov and others, their goal is a weak Russia and the collapse of Russia!!!
    1. Yarosvet
      +7
      20 July 2013 16: 09
      I see that you and people like you have problems with sanity - as a result, you have to harness the bulk.

      Quote: malikszh
      he's an American spy
      Spy? Is he being tried for espionage? No? Data?


      studied in the USA, prepared him in addition to Sakashvili, Tymoshenko, Yushchenko, Udaltsov and others
      Data?


      their goal is weak Russia and the collapse of Russia!!!
      Is it true? Or maybe their goal is “United Russia”? laughing
      1. work566
        +1
        20 July 2013 16: 42
        Navalny studied in the USA under a program for training young politicians. This is a FACT.
        No one is claiming that he was the spy who was dropped from the plane.
        Navalny is a creature of the USA. This is a FACT.
        He regularly travels to the United States, where his CIA handlers clear his mind.
        The Internet is at your service. You will find a lot of interesting things.
        1. work566
          +1
          20 July 2013 16: 58
          On the website http://ru.wikipedia.org about Navalny we find:
          "In 2010, on the recommendation of Garry Kasparov, Evgenia Albats, Sergei Guriev and Oleg Tsyvinsky, I underwent six-month training
          at Yale University under the Yale World Fellows program."
          These are FACTS. There are many others.
          Need clarification about political orientation
          the gentlemen I mentioned above? They all dearly love Russian birch trees
          and Russia, regularly dousing it with slop.
          Two of them have already fled to the West, "choosing freedom."
          Albats lived in the USA for some time and wanted to stay there.
          She wrote about this herself when she returned from the USA.
          But they told her: She needs to go to Russia and establish a shit-cracy there.
          I will not mention national origin.
          1. Yarosvet
            +6
            20 July 2013 21: 49
            Quote: lav566
            Navalny studied in the USA under a program for training young politicians. This is a FACT.
            Fact, but is he the only one? What about Dvorkovich, who was an assistant to the guarantor, for example?

            No one is claiming that he was the spy who was dropped from the plane.
            Navalny is a creature of the USA. This is a FACT.
            So he's a spy without a plane?
            Once again - is he being tried for espionage? If not, then what fact is this?

            He regularly travels to the United States, where his CIA handlers clear his mind.
            Were you personally present during the cleaning?
            Glavsterkh also travels to the USA, shuffles around with Obama, retires with him away from the eyes of journalists, and as a result he divorced his wife - do you think he should be suspected of a secret intimate relationship with the State Department?

            Quote: lav566
            In 2010, on the recommendation of Garry Kasparov, Evgenia Albats, Sergei Guriev and Oleg Tsyvinsky, he underwent six-month training
            at Yale University under the Yale World Fellows program."
            These are FACTS. There are many others.
            Need clarification about political orientation
            the gentlemen I mentioned above?
            Need clarification about this gentleman's political orientation?

            Everything is somehow one-sided for you, you see one part and exaggerate it in every possible way, but prefer not to notice the second.
      2. malikszh
        -6
        20 July 2013 17: 55
        Vlasov is a traitor and spy! you don’t have enough Stalin without a trial and evidence against the wall!
        1. rruvimbenrafail
          -8
          20 July 2013 18: 27
          And you miss Khan Batu! And you need to read about Vlasov on the Internet. Every person has the right to make mistakes and to be forgiven. This is the principle of any normal person, otherwise we will strangle each other. There won't be anyone left...
          1. olviko
            +1
            20 July 2013 20: 07
            Any person has the right to make a mistake, and to forgiveness, to betrayal, treason, cowardice and meanness.
            And also has the right to be awarded for this 30 pieces of silver and the Order of Judas, first degree!
            1. rruvimbenrafail
              0
              20 July 2013 22: 07
              Judas hanged himself.
          2. sleepy
            +3
            21 July 2013 06: 38
            Quote: rruvimbenrafail
            "...And you should read about Vlasov on the Net. Any person has the right to both a mistake and forgiveness..."


            From the Internet.
            "Commander of a partisan detachment in enemy-occupied Belarus,
            Hero of the Soviet Union I. Titkov refused to carry out the order of one of L.P.’s deputies. Beria about the execution of a group of Vlasovites who voluntarily went over to our side, and through P.K. Ponomarenko brought this issue to Stalin personally. The criminal order was canceled
            and all the soldiers who voluntarily crossed over, on Stalin’s instructions, were awarded military orders and medals. True, when at the end of the 50s, being the head of one of the construction organizations, I. Titkov turned to N.S. Khrushchev with a letter in which he spoke about the inadmissibility of wasting large public funds on the construction of dachas for the leadership,
            he was arrested, stripped of the title of Hero and sentenced to death..."
            http://www.famhist.ru/famhist/all_st/0002c5cb.htm

            Was Stalin's regime "soulless"? Was there fear?
            Fear is a myth, and this myth was invented by cowards to justify
            own cowardice, for, as M. Bulgakov said in his profound novel “The Master and Margarita” through the lips of the vagabond philosopher Yeshua Ha-Nozri,
            cowardice - one of the most terrible human vices.
            He said and immediately corrected himself: the most terrible human vice!
        2. sleepy
          +4
          20 July 2013 21: 14
          Quote: malikszh
          "...a traitor and a spy!
          You miss Stalin without a trial and evidence against the wall!”


          Stalin didn’t shoot that much.
          And more and more often they write that he shot too few.
          Many policemen after the Great Patriotic War received only prison sentences.
          After serving their time after Khrushchev’s report, they told the children
          and to his grandchildren about his innocence.

          http://www.reddem.ru/rol-stalina-v-repressiyah/

          What is the scale of the "Stalinist repressions".
          http://stalinism.ru/repressii/kakovyi-masshtabyi-stalinskih-repressiy.html
        3. Yarosvet
          +3
          20 July 2013 21: 58
          Quote: malikszh
          Vlasov is a traitor and spy! you don’t have enough Stalin without a trial and evidence against the wall!

          And this something, calling Stalin a criminal and writing his last name with a small letter, dares to squeal about my betrayal. laughing
    2. rruvimbenrafail
      +2
      20 July 2013 16: 23
      Who hasn't studied in the USA now? Or in Germany, Lithuania, Ukraine. Our Patriarch Kirill had an internship in the Vatican. What of this?
  75. +3
    20 July 2013 15: 34
    Quote: rruvimbenrafail

    rruvimbenrafail


    And about the dismemberment of Russia. But there has been no united Russia for a long time. In times of globalization, there are no single territories at all. The only question is who controls financial flows and where. Siberia has long belonged to the people who own Chelsea. The Caucasus is clear to anyone. I’m silent about the Urals...



    Siberia, the Urals, and the Far East no longer belonged to Russia. After 17, everything was given in concession to the great-grandfathers of the current owners of Chelsea. But there will always be the one, in this case Joseph Vissarionovich, who will return everything to his own (not without the help of the Russian people) and show where these owners belong.
  76. trader371
    -1
    20 July 2013 15: 35
    Weak Russia and its collapse are only from us
    with you!!!!!!one of the SMART GUYS (from there) said - Democracy ($) is the most precious thing.
    what is in the world.
  77. +6
    20 July 2013 15: 36
    Looking through the forum
    Themes:
    "T-54, the hard way to the series" - 9 comments.
    “Failed Typhoon” - 1 comments.
    "The storm of Grozny" - 18 comments.
    “Sau NONA and VIENNA” - 32 comments.
    "Bulk on the liberal iconostasis ..." - 230 comments ....
    “Why should Ukraine join the Customs Union” - 168 comments ...

    Hmm ...
    I do not belittle the importance of the two extreme themes at all, but we love to scratch our tongue, oh how we love, especially not on army topics ...
    No complaints, just a statement of fact.
  78. Yarosvet
    +4
    20 July 2013 15: 38
    __________________________________
  79. Alexanderlaskov
    0
    20 July 2013 15: 41
    Strange things are happening.
    1. work566
      -2
      20 July 2013 16: 05
      What's unclear here? Under this article they give up to eight years. This is the judicial practice.
  80. trader371
    +1
    20 July 2013 15: 56
    Navalny?!?! What are you talking about? 99 percent of Russia doesn’t know him (just advertising!!). I'm from Izhevsk (and kind of educated), and .... do I need Navalny? You can discuss a lot of little things. but everyone (everyone) can change OUR country. Imprisoned - Released - YOU will keep track of where this MISTER is until the end? I think no.
    What worries us more? Us or will Navalny have TV in his cell? (there will be!!)
    Please do not downvote, but if there is a reason, then explain. To paraphrase, “conscious silence is an absolute sin”
    1. rruvimbenrafail
      -3
      20 July 2013 18: 03
      You are wrong, yesterday I was traveling by train from Moscow. Everyone on the phone was just talking about him. Then a common theme emerged. The discussion is like on the website, some are for, some are against. But one conclusion can be drawn - people are interested. Is this bad or good? Unclear. But there is interest.
  81. rruvimbenrafail
    -3
    20 July 2013 16: 02
    And to the “Putinoids” I want to add: “Pound the angle and pitch sensors on the Proton with sledgehammers, upside down, divorce your married wives, leak Snowden’s “exclusive” into Spiegel against Merkel, make Anna Chapman a TV actress, and wonder “Who built Krasnaya Polyana?” And also send a thousand tanks to the Far East. Suddenly they will thank you from the Capitol, Obama’s visit is just around the corner...
    1. trader371
      -5
      20 July 2013 16: 11
      ))))smiled......I'm a Putinoid!!!! I'll just say - there are two ways: either you're with us (RUSSIA) or "keep quiet" I don't want to moralize. read the story.....but you can LOVE and try, or you can pick and choose. From the outside it looks the same, but the mood is different!!!!
      1. rruvimbenrafail
        +3
        20 July 2013 16: 44
        I am for conscience. And for Russia. I can criticize Sakharov and respect Solzhenitsyn. But I can't stand this chaos. We have only thirty million working-age population, while the fifth largest economy in the world (due to resources), and it pains me to look at children in the maternity hospital, abandoned by a young mother. She has nothing to feed her child, because children's capital is fiction. And my husband is a drug addict. It pains me to look at my nephew, who says, “I’ll go to the cops, because you can earn money there.” And he doesn’t go to become an engineer. It pains me to read that 800 of the working population were deprived of their driver's licenses in 000. And even for the security officer But it’s a shame...
        1. work566
          +1
          20 July 2013 17: 19
          Why should Solzhenitsyn be respected? Because he shit all over the head of the great man Stalin?
          Solzhenitsyn didn’t even bother to understand that era. Just slop!
          We are all for Russia. But why, when we see shortcomings, should we immediately run to Bolotnaya under the orange banners?
          1. rruvimbenrafail
            -2
            20 July 2013 17: 36
            I "fled" under the imperial flags! And I'll run again. Russia cannot be any other way, and Navalny understands this if you have carefully looked at his “history-biography”.
            1. work566
              -1
              20 July 2013 17: 59
              Navalny is acting like a nationalist. On the advice of curators from SyShA.
              On the advice of the same Jewish woman Albats.Ukrainian by origin
              Navalny cannot be a “Russian nationalist.”
              Have you ever talked to Ukrainians?
              They hate Russia by definition. I have one
              in Kyiv back in 1988 he said just that: “I don’t like it and that’s all!”
              At that time, he and I were drinking beer in a pub. On a personal level
              very nice person.
              In general, a person from among the Orange cannot be a nationalist.
              And his “nationalism” is somehow anti-Russian.
              1. rruvimbenrafail
                +1
                20 July 2013 18: 32
                I communicate with the Little Russians every day as part of my duty. Here's their joke: "They don't say PYVO, but BEER. Kill them for that." Then we drink beer. Do not confuse the Little Russians with the Westerners... There are just a few of the latter.
        2. +2
          20 July 2013 19: 00
          Maternity capital has helped people a lot, including me... The amount is not very grandiose, but still. Why were all these people deprived of their driver's licenses? For no reason? It is not mothers who abandon children in the maternity hospital, a real mother will never abandon a child. But as in the old days, 5-7, or even more children were given birth and not a single one was abandoned. And the fact that the husband is a drug addict, who is to blame? Did the state put him on the needle? You need to have your own brains. So why couldn’t you convince your nephew to become an engineer?
          1. sleepy
            +4
            20 July 2013 19: 11
            Quote: lewerlin53rus
            “Maternity capital has helped people a lot, including me..
            The amount is not very grandiose, but still...”


            From the Internet about maternity capital.
            "In their concern for increasing the birth rate, the authorities are behaving
            extremely inconsistent.
            It seems that the government values ​​literally every baby.
            Vladimir Putin generously distributes maternity capital and birth certificates, and Dmitry Medvedev devotes an entire presidential message to supporting childbearing.
            On November 2010, XNUMX, he spoke sincere and touching words that the country vitally needs effective public policy
            in the field of childhood
            that the state should encourage the birth of not only second, but also third children in the family. The President gave out many specific instructions that should improve the conditions for the emergence of new citizens of the country.
            And I want to subscribe to most of his calls.
            But just a week after the announcement of the message, the same President Medvedev signed a document that in one fell swoop crosses out
            all his good wishes expressed in the message...
            ...The state will severely punish with rubles women who, for example, must go to the hospital to maintain a pregnancy or take a ballot,
            if their eldest child gets sick..."
            http://lucky-32.livejournal.com/37478.html
            1. -3
              20 July 2013 20: 52
              Quote: sleepy
              From the Internet about maternity capital.

              What do I need the Internet for? There is a lot written there and not everything needs to be believed. We used it ourselves, and without any problems.
          2. sleepy
            +2
            20 July 2013 23: 34
            Quote: lewerlin53rus
            “Maternity capital has helped people a lot, including me..
            The amount is not very grandiose, but still...”


            The amount of maternity capital is not small.
            Maternity capital certificate is given for the second child
            since 2007 and are going to provide until 2025.
            The amount of maternity capital from January 1, 2013 is 408 rubles.
            The amount of maternity capital in 2013 will be subject to indexation
            taking into account inflation and will grow.
            What can you spend maternity capital on?
            1. Improving living conditions.
            2. Education of one or all children.
            3. As an increase in the funded part of the pension for mothers.
            A one-time payment of 12 thousand rubles. it can no longer be obtained from maternity capital, because This anti-crisis program was temporary and payments under it could be received by submitting an application before March 2011.

            There were no maternity capitals in the USSR.
            1. Improving living conditions at the expense of the state and enterprises.
            2. Free education.
            3. A quote speaks best about pensions in the USSR
            from the film "Holidays in Prostokvashino"
            "Maybe I’m just starting to live - I’m moving on to retirement."

            Now you can hear - “If only I could live to see retirement, and what kind of
            will this be a pension?
            And here is maternal capital - well, how can you not be happy - life is getting better.
    2. Good Ukraine
      -4
      21 July 2013 00: 12
      hi
      Quote: rruvimbenrafail
      And to the “Putinoids” I would like to add:

      And I want to answer the “dybiloids”: Podvalny will sit “like a pioneer’s oath.” Khodorkovsky warmed up his place there. 10 years ago there was the same noise. And what - it sits and will sit for a long time.
      And this one will sit, but after the elections. Let everyone see how much he scores.
      He will receive his 2-3% from the “dybiloids” and go to Kolyma to “sew mittens.”
      And now it’s just too early. laughing
  82. trader371
    -2
    20 July 2013 16: 19
    Quote: trader371
    ))))smiled......I'm a Putinoid!!!! I'll just say - there are two ways: either you're with us (RUSSIA) or "keep quiet" I don't want to moralize. read the story.....but you can LOVE and try, or you can pick and choose. From the outside it looks the same, but the desires are different!!!!
  83. trader371
    -2
    20 July 2013 16: 25
    damn... why minus? I'm saying something. what is different from the people?
    I am the one from the outback and I express the thoughts of all my friends, neighbors, acquaintances.
    1. Good Ukraine
      -2
      21 July 2013 14: 07
      hi
      Quote: trader371
      damn... why minus? I'm saying something. What is different from the people? I am one from the outback and I express the thoughts of all my friends, neighbors, acquaintances.

      They are downvoting you, my friend, because you love your Motherland and don’t destroy it, don’t sell it for candy. But there are a lot of pro-Western bedding here and they are not afraid to minus, unlike people like us. This is their job. They, just like Podvalny, receive money for this.
      But don't worry. By the second term of the presidency of GDP, they will all be together.
      Somewhere near Khodorkovsky.
      And I’ll tell you and people like you - don’t forget to upvote your like-minded people.
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  85. cool.ya-nikola
    +4
    20 July 2013 16: 38
    With all due respect to Alexei Volodin, I am forced to note that when revealing the image of the “great-grandmother” of the human rights movement, Madame Alekseeva, the author, made an inaccuracy:
    In 1991, it must be admitted, Lyudmila Mikhailovna worked out the investment in herself in full. It’s a pity, but they didn’t give me a full-length medal. Although, perhaps, we are simply not in the know about this.

    In fact, for her “works” in 1991, Lyudmila Alekseevna, nevertheless, “got something”:
    Knight of the Orders:
    French Legion of Honor (2007).
    Commander's Cross of the Order of Merit of the Federal Republic of Germany (2009).
    Order of the Grand Duke of Lithuania Gediminas
    Order of the Cross of the Land of Mary, 3rd class (Estonia, 2012).

    Well, and one more little thing:
    Prize "For Freedom of Thought" named after Andrei Sakharov
    Olof Palme Prize
    Award of the Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia (FJC) “Person of the Year - 5765”

    Ah, you say!... Still, faithful service to “universal human values”, as we see, is still rewarded... am
    1. rruvimbenrafail
      -2
      20 July 2013 16: 54
      And how many “foreman” did he get7 Besides the GDR and Venezuelan awards? The Mistrals and Ivecos alone are worth it. Didn't Berlusconi reward him with anything by chance? In your villa? Every second academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences has foreign awards, but the country has built a nuclear shield. Alekseeva’s awards are bullshit compared to Vasilyeva’s “trinkets”...
    2. rruvimbenrafail
      -2
      20 July 2013 17: 06
      The security officers have one theme in their heads, how to dig up dirt on the “enemy”. You have to dig deep into yourself. As our partner Snowden said: “And so you are all wiretapped.” smile
      1. work566
        -3
        20 July 2013 18: 38
        In the case of Navalny, there is no need to “pick up incriminating evidence.” You just need to carefully read the published
        information and think with your own head. Everything is clear with this character!
      2. +1
        20 July 2013 19: 02
        Of course, the incriminating evidence turned out to be weak (or not weak), but what a reaction in the world!
  86. trader371
    -2
    20 July 2013 16: 57
    Quote: rruvimbenrafail
    I am for conscience. And for Russia. I can criticize Sakharov and respect Solzhenitsyn. But I can't stand this chaos. We have only thirty million working-age population, while the fifth largest economy in the world (due to resources), and it pains me to look at children in the maternity hospital, abandoned by a young mother. She has nothing to feed her child, because children's capital is fiction. And my husband is a drug addict. It pains me to look at my nephew, who says, “I’ll go to the cops, because you can earn money there.” And he doesn’t go to become an engineer. It pains me to read that 800 of the working population were deprived of their driver's licenses in 000. And even for the security officer But it’s a shame...


    Conscience!!!!- this is what binds us....and THIS is our difference and self-identification from the WORLD. THANK YOU to the commentator. FORUM MEMBERS - neither a gun, nor a submarine, nor a soldier will defend the HOMELAND if there is no rear... (WE. US....).
    And for minus me....There is truth (with Mom's milk....). and everything else is “listen”.
  87. grafrozow
    +1
    20 July 2013 17: 29
    A criminal case has been opened for vandalism - Novaya Gazeta. Here's a joke, yesterday opposition supporters corrected the sign by writing instead of the State Duma - State FOOL. Quote - Y. Kobzon./You are the elected representatives of the people, Rus' hits the ground with its brow/. I wonder how this criminal case will end?
  88. -3
    20 July 2013 17: 33
    Quote: trader371
    Quote: rruvimbenrafail
    I am for conscience. And for Russia. I can criticize Sakharov and respect Solzhenitsyn. But I can't stand this chaos. We have only thirty million working-age population, while the fifth largest economy in the world (due to resources), and it pains me to look at children in the maternity hospital, abandoned by a young mother. She has nothing to feed her child, because children's capital is fiction. And my husband is a drug addict. It pains me to look at my nephew, who says, “I’ll go to the cops, because you can earn money there.” And he doesn’t go to become an engineer. It pains me to read that 800 of the working population were deprived of their driver's licenses in 000. And even for the security officer But it’s a shame...


    Conscience!!!!- this is what binds us....and THIS is our difference and self-identification from the WORLD. THANK YOU to the commentator. FORUM MEMBERS - neither a gun, nor a submarine, nor a soldier will defend the HOMELAND if there is no rear... (WE. US....).
    And for minus me....There is truth (with Mom's milk....). and everything else is “listen”.

    I put a minus... I'm already tired of this Bulk diarrhea... I'm already yawning lol
    1. rruvimbenrafail
      -8
      20 July 2013 18: 08
      Nothing! If you look at the German from Django Unchained, you'll miss it.
  89. work566
    +6
    20 July 2013 17: 39
    In general, if you go into politics, you must be as clean as a half-liter,
    just taken out of the store. Otherwise political
    competitors will gobble it up. And theft in the country must stop.
    Punish with the harshest methods.
    1. rruvimbenrafail
      -1
      20 July 2013 18: 09
      Punish each other? Or leave the “hardworking migrants”?
      1. work566
        0
        20 July 2013 18: 24
        Not witty!
    2. sleepy
      +3
      21 July 2013 00: 21
      Quote: lav566
      “In general, if you go into politics, you must be as clean as a pint,
      just taken out of the store.
      Otherwise, political competitors will devour...".


      It's not about purity, but about connections with the right people.

      "How I was elected governor." Mark Twain.
      The story is notable for the fact that it has become a manual
      on conducting dirty elections and adopted by many experts
      in the field of election technologies.

      “...Finally, the shameless persecution to which hostile parties subjected me reached its highest point: at someone’s instigation, during an election meeting, nine children of all colors and in a wide variety of rags climbed onto the podium and, clinging to my legs, began to shout: "Dad!"
      I could not stand it. I lowered the flag and surrendered. I could not run for the position of governor of New York.
      I wrote that I was withdrawing my candidacy, and in a fit of bitterness I signed:
      "With utmost respect yours, once an honest man, but now:
      Vile Oathbreaker, Montana Thief, Tomb Raider,
      White Hot, Dirty Dodger and Sneaky Blackmailer
      Mark Twain"
      http://www.odintsovo.info/white/blog.asp?id=194

      Mark Twain said: "All political parties eventually die, choking on my own lies."
  90. +1
    20 July 2013 17: 40
    Interesting information:
    On Tuesday, FNPR Chairman Mikhail Shmakov said that it is necessary to guarantee the provision of the first job to Russian citizens who have received vocational education in order to reduce the high level of unemployment among young people.

    At the same time, Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Olga Golodets believes that there is no need to return to the distribution of university graduates.

    I just want to say - the main enemy of Russia is the government and isn’t it time, Vladimir Vladimirovich, to transfer it to SIBERIA, let them work there...
    1. grafrozow
      +3
      20 July 2013 22: 27
      Quote: vezunchik
      , transfer to SIBERIA, let them work there...

      To hell with Siberia, we are already crying because of them.
  91. imperial 3
    0
    20 July 2013 17: 44
    and after that they say that he is not a fascist? http://youtu.be/gEGxNveNB38
  92. lma107
    +4
    20 July 2013 17: 46
    Navalny is just an image for foreign politicians; they didn’t care about his worldview. If someone else muddies the waters, they will support him.
    1. rruvimbenrafail
      -1
      20 July 2013 18: 16
      Yes, all foreign politicians are against him (read INOSMI). They belittle Pu to imprison him according to the “law”. That's all. Comrade President, make Navalny imprisoned according to the law. Well do it! Nobody in the West needs a Russian fascist. It's like a red rag for a bull.
      But “Pu” can’t, he has a systemic error in running the country. He has all the Rotenbergs and Vekselbergs, and also Ivanov and his team. And Sobyanin also showed up...
    2. +1
      20 July 2013 23: 11
      “No, he’s not ours, this red-haired Judas from Kariot” (Leonid Andreev, “Judas Iscariot”) -
  93. +2
    20 July 2013 18: 02
    A thief should sit in jail!
  94. 0
    20 July 2013 18: 05
    Yes, the barking started here because of a criminal... He's a THIEF! specific, this is just something that has been proven.. Obviously, it couldn’t have happened without the redhead.. Someone is pulling the strings.. Sooner or later we’ll figure out everyone.
    1. work566
      0
      20 July 2013 18: 43
      Ryzhiy said so in an interview last summer, addressing the GDP:
      If you don't bullshit the country, we'll kill you.
      Yesterday on the RBC channel (I already talked about this - read above)
      Red's brother openly promised the Strasbourg tribunal to GDP.
      I don’t understand one thing - what is Pu waiting for?
    2. rruvimbenrafail
      -1
      20 July 2013 18: 45
      Have you even read the verdict? “He bought a washing machine from the Chinese for 100 bucks, paid customs 100 euros per piece (duty), added 18% VAT + 0.3% customs clearance to all this, sold it to the Eldorado store for 250 euros, gave everything he earned to salary for an accountant and a secretary, paid to the Pension Fund, income tax, for renting a warehouse and transport, conspiracy in a group of persons, fraudulent scheme. Arrest immediately in the courtroom." All this was about the forest. Moreover, it was on a voluntary basis. Yes, everyone could have been arrested, half the country, and taken in the courtroom. What kind of thief is he? Thieves go to boutiques and write poems.
      1. work566
        +1
        20 July 2013 19: 38
        What the hell are washing machines?
        Taking advantage of the patronage of Governor Belykh, guys
        They drew up a scheme for cutting money into their pockets.
      2. +2
        21 July 2013 03: 04
        I fully support it! that is why the Russian stock market began to FALL on Thursday afternoon after the decision of the Kirov court against Alexei Navalny, which sentenced him to five years in prison....normal businessmen immediately realized that trading on Russian territory under the current “rules” in legal proceedings is straightforward the road to the bench. This case once again confirmed the idea that the court in Russia is subordinate to various influence groups. Until this practice is changed, there is no hope for accelerated economic growth, since investments cannot be effectively protected, but are kept on unspoken agreements. Against the backdrop of the 6-billion-dollar Oboronservis case and the multi-billion-dollar Olympstroy case, the figure of 16 million rubles of “embezzlement” charged against Navalny simply looks frivolous. Of course, the stock market is a democratic product, and I would like to see coverage of events and verdicts that are adequate to the amount of damage caused to the Russian economy.
    3. grafrozow
      0
      20 July 2013 22: 39
      Meehan, you are wrong, until the sentence comes into force, he is not a criminal. Do not confuse the court of the Russian Federation with the revolutionary troikas. And how do you calculate, proletarian feeling?
  95. sergey261180
    +4
    20 July 2013 18: 23
    Let's figure out what is now, as they say, an “advanced” trend.
    This is not a trend - it's a trendsetter! There is no such crap anywhere that can be released under subscription after conviction! During the investigation or before the verdict, okay, but after the verdict they are usually sent to the prison camp, and then whether you want to complain to a higher court or not. This trend says one thing: the state is a complete mess and the country is sliding into chaos.
    1. rruvimbenrafail
      +1
      20 July 2013 18: 55
      Agree. There is simply a management crisis on our face. Some people call: jail him! Others: screaming to leave! And the guarantor hints: the court will sort everything out. The show is such that you want to drink yourself to death, or dream of heaven. It’s just a shame, such a country! ...And such a mess with the “foreman”.
    2. -1
      20 July 2013 20: 58
      This is not a mess but the indecisiveness of the authorities
    3. +4
      21 July 2013 02: 56
      and for people like Vasilyeva to go shopping, and Serdyukov to visit her at night, who stole BILLIONS - how is that? Fine?
  96. +1
    20 July 2013 18: 46
    Thus, they showed the people of A. Navalny’s sponsors how many NATO countries support him. Probably a new Ulyanov-Lenin will be born, and instead of Trotsky there will be Udaltsov. and if power falls into their hands, persecution of the church will begin, etc. history completes another hundred-year cycle
  97. -3
    20 July 2013 18: 48
    Quote: lav566
    Ryzhiy said so in an interview last summer, addressing the GDP:
    If you don't bullshit the country, we'll kill you.
    Yesterday on the RBC channel (I already talked about this - read above)
    Red's brother openly promised the Strasbourg tribunal to GDP.
    I don’t understand one thing - what is Pu waiting for?

    Waiting for everything... but it will come up ha ha ha
  98. +1
    20 July 2013 18: 48
    Why is Belykh silent, and Gaidar’s daughter, she was also an adviser at that time. This means there is something to hide.
  99. +3
    20 July 2013 18: 49
    Why is Belykh silent, and Gaidar’s daughter, she was also an adviser at that time. This means there is something to hide.
  100. Alexanderlaskov
    0
    20 July 2013 19: 12
    More than 300 comments.
    Record.