According to the results of flight tests of the Su-30SM aircraft, the Russian Air Force gave a preliminary opinion

In the State Flight Test Center named after V.P. Chkalov of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation (Akhtubinsk, Astrakhan Region) signed a preliminary conclusion with the Irkut Corporation open joint stock company (OAO) on special joint flight tests of the Su-30CM multi-purpose two-seat fighter.

“Su-30SM aircraft will significantly increase the combat capabilities of the Russian Air Force,” said the chief aviation - Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force for Aviation, Hero of Russia Colonel Sergei Kobylash. “The capabilities of the Su-30SM to simultaneously detect and defeat several targets and its super maneuverability are unique. Modern fighters will enter the Air Force not in single copies, but in whole squadrons, ”he said.

President of Irkut Corporation Oleg Demchenko, in turn, stressed that Irkut Corporation, working in close cooperation with Sukhoi, will make every effort to fulfill the state contract for the supply of Su-30MM fighter jets in time.

The Su-30M multi-purpose super-maneuverable fighter is a further development of the Su-30MK family of combat aircraft. Specialists of Sukhoi Company OJSC adapted the fighter to the requirements of the Russian Air Force in terms of radar systems, radio communications and state identification, an ejection seat and a number of support systems. Also made changes to the composition of weapons.

The first contract for the supply of multi-purpose Su-30CM fighters to the 30 troops between the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and Irkut Corporation OJSC was signed in March of 2012.
21 September 2012 The Su-30CM, assembled at the Irkutsk Aviation Plant, a branch of the Corporation Irkut, made its first flight.

Comments

[experienced]

“Su-30SM aircraft will significantly increase the combat capabilities of the Russian Air Force”

It is clear that they will not weaken. I would like their number in the Russian Air Force to grow

[neri73-r]

A plane is good, but what about the situation with combat pilots, what about schools, etc ... ???

[Bad_gr]

Interestingly, the Su-30SM was made on the basis of the Su-30MKI (Indian version), and the MKI has a front horizontal tail. Was it saved or not?

When working at low altitude, the PGO reduces the load on the glider, which is not unnecessary if the aircraft will be used as a shock, including.

[B_KypTke]

No, they didn’t save .. for all the advantages of this arrangement (a large lifting component, more confident handling at near-zero speeds, lower stall speed), there are significant disadvantages: a maximum speed of about 10% lower and a significant decrease in flight range.

[PLO]

actually on the first 2 Su-30SM PGO was

[VAF]

Quote: olp

actually on the first 2 Su-30SM PGO was

Oleg, welcome! it was necessary to put a smiley at the end .. to complete the picture your post!
And continue "on Irkut .. saws .. do not work!" (Well, it's like ... about PGO, which ... sawed off)

But in general .. do not pay attention .. there are a lot of such on the site .. although it seems to be ... "in a chevretka" ... I must think before. Than write!

And "I will reveal a terrible secret" on all su-30SM. who will leave the factory this year PGO is and even more and more terrible .. "mystery" on all subsequent su-30SM. which will be produced by Irkut.PGO .. WILL !!!

[queen]

Quote: vaf

subsequent su-30SM. which will produce Irkut.PGO .. WILL !!!

I always liked the photos from the factories)))) thank you .... and as for the SU-30MK ## for other countries (in my opinion, China) they refused PGO ... As was the SU-37 with the PGO and the SU-35 in the end ended up without him. why is it motivated?

[VAF]

Quote: regin

and about SU-30MK ## for other countries (in my opinion, China) they refused PGO.

All that is with KnAAZ are all without PGO and engines with UVT, there is the "progenitor" of the Su-27PU (Su-30)!

Quote: regin

and the SU-35 eventually came out without it. why is it motivated?

Explain for a very long time, but if briefly ... they turned back more to the glider of the Su-27th, brought the ESD completely, well, new motors, so that no shield or PGO became unnecessary!

[Avenger711]

The fact that PGO creates additional resistance is actually obvious even to an infant. As soon as they learned to solve all problems on the Su-35S with the help of engines with OVT, they removed the PGO. On the Su-34 PGO to suppress chatter at low altitudes, where fighters do not descend.

[VAF]

Quote: B_KypTke

No saved ..

And from this angle (the same 01th) it is probably better to see ... that there is a PGO!

I understand that it’s just too lazy to look up and look at the photo that I posted Bad_grbut so .. stupid then ????

[queen]

Greetings to Sergey ... I have a question for you. An article was drawn about insurance for military personnel (I did not understand CTP or Casco). So the question is: do military equipment (especially aviation) be insured in peacetime and losses are made up? Thanks .

[VAF]

Quote: regin

I have a question for you

Greetings Vladimir!

1. I have not yet studied this "insurance" (yet another enticement for the military). Although, according to the old orders and laws, it. This insurance (for medicine) was and is valid. But to get it .... especially on the occasion of ..2 receipt harm to health during the period of military service "is very, very problematic (divided by 50% is an obligation)!

2. Citizens and BTA (for special transportations) insure both aircraft and cargo.

3. The military has only equipment for a foreign customer and a new one. Which is in trials, but these insurance contracts are secret with seven seals !!!!

Here is a specific case with Proton ... yes it is insured (as many as 7 whole companies ... yes which RSC, SOGAZ, Ingosstrakh, VSK, Capital Insurance, Uralsib, ROSLES ..

The total limit of liability under the contract is 6 billion rubles.
The limits of these companies are 100 million rubles for each, the rest (5,4 billion rubles - ed.) Falls on the pool leader - RCC !!!
Well, yes, "insurance" around the world and at all stages of flights, and in the section for special marks and conditions .. it is a little so written- .... "... except in cases of the fall of the launch vehicle only in the" regular fall areas ".
Well, ... "the territory of the cosmodrome is a regular fall area."
Further, I hope you understand everything yourself

[queen]

Quote: vaf

Further, I hope you understand everything yourself

Thank you))) that was understandable, and now ZOOM has turned on.

[Black Colonel]

Interestingly, and work on the retractable VSP (like the Tu-144) was carried out?

[VAF]

Quote: Bad_gr

Su-30SM was made on the basis of the Su-30MKI (Indian version)

Correct a little .... for the "base" adopted Su-30MKA (Algerian version)!

The Su-30MKI is too Israeli .. a lot

[Siberian German]

I don’t understand - 30 dryers are driven abroad and people need to take the brain to bear something for themselves to experience when they were created, really, not tested, drive to the part, refuel and let our pilots drive in the sky

[Wedmak]

30 drying abroad

different from 30's dryers in our Air Force. Moreover, both the composition of the equipment and the armament. Accordingly, you need to test the equipment in the complex.

[Avenger711]

You apparently have never dealt with industry. There, for the slightest deviation from the project, you can get eggs in a vise. Any aircraft change is re-certified.

[Atrix]

Modern fighters will enter the Air Force not in single copies, but in entire squadrons, ”he said.

Let's hope that there will be a deed behind the words, and not just words.

[Bronis]

2 contracts for 30 vehicles have been concluded. 5 squadrons or 2 and a half regiments by today's standards. The matter is "small" - to fulfill ...

[silver_roman]

correct if I'm wrong, but it seems that the modern squadron consists of 12 aircraft ??? in Voronezh there are 24 Su-34 aircraft and these are 2 squadrons ...

[aviator_IAS]

2 contracts for 30 vehicles have been concluded. 5 squadrons or 2 and a half regiments by today's standards. The matter is "small" - to fulfill ...

Quote: silver_roman

correct if I'm wrong, but it seems that the modern squadron consists of 12 aircraft ??? in Voronezh there are 24 Su-34 aircraft and these are 2 squadrons ...

Calculator to help you

2h30 = 60
60: 5 = 12 aircraft.

[VAF]

Quote: Bronis

5 squadrons or 2 and a half regiments by today's standards. The matter is "small" - to fulfill ...

I'll correct a little .... 60-ton machines are ... a little short of up to 2 regiments (according to the old, "good" Soviet "state")

Well, for the "small .. fulfill" .. Irkut will do everything right ... I give 1000% !!!

[Black Colonel]

The picture from the workshop is beautiful, but something is stretched horizontally.

[VAF]

Quote: Black Colonel

The picture from the workshop is beautiful, but something is stretched horizontally.

This is the "cost" of innovations on the site .. to see a picture in a normal format, you need to click on it once +!

[gland]

they’re good ... I’m not looking at them straight ...

[Airman]

Quote: Bronis

2 contracts for 30 vehicles have been concluded. 5 squadrons or 2 and a half regiments by today's standards. The matter is "small" - to fulfill ...

In Soviet times, IAP consisted of 3 squadrons and included 40 aircraft.

[Avenger711]

As far as I know, optional. Squadrons and more than 12 vehicles were possible.

[Vladimirets]

"Modern fighters will enter the Air Force not in single copies, but in whole squadrons."

Shelves they must do, shelves.

[Airman]

Quote: Vladimirets

"Modern fighters will enter the Air Force not in single copies, but in whole squadrons."

Shelves they must do, shelves.

Too long to wait for something to learn.

[Russ69]

For the Su-30, a new sighting system, still done. It is equipped with a thermal imager, a laser rangefinder and high-resolution optics, it detects targets in bad weather conditions day and night.

[royk]

He is huge! How do they carry these?

[viktorR]

Nothing huge, in length maybe a little more than a pylon protruded

[Jin]

Quote: Russ69

For the Su-30, a new sighting system, still done.

Will helmets with guidance systems be supplied? I read an article yesterday, amers puff with might and main over this and improve, and experience. How about us?

[black_eagle]

Since the time of the MiG-29, we have a helmet-mounted target designation system Slit-ZUM

[Thunderbolt]

Helmets of the NSC “Sura”
GOS Mk-80 missiles R-73
Used on the Su-ZOMKA multipurpose fighter

[Jin]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Helmets of the NSC “Sura”
GOS Mk-80 missiles R-73
Used on the Su-ZOMKA multipurpose fighter

Thanks for answers. I’ll look for more info.

[Jin]

Quote: black_eagle

Since the time of the MiG-29, we have a helmet-mounted target designation system Slit-ZUM

Thank you. Is there any, but progress, and the development of technology, does it have a place? I’m talking about

[VAF]

Quote: Russ69

For the Su-30, a new sighting system, still done.

Write everything correctly, you just need to add. What for the su-30SM, and for the Su-30MK2 the Sapsan was created, which you have in the photo, but this is the layout (especially the slapy top to the top)

And for the su-30SM it looks like this ...

Very similar to Israeli Litening

[Wedmak]

but this is a layout (all the more slabby to the top with thumb)

Greetings, Sergey. From I, too, thought that it was his eye that looked up. Not satellites are going to shoot down ...
And this complex comes complete with a fighter, or as extra. equipment?

[VAF]

Quote: Wedmak

And this complex comes complete with a fighter, or as extra. equipment?

Theoretically, it should be immediately bundled and integrated into the SUV, but for the lack of ready-made serial containers of the ECO today .... it will be like ..option

And for the Hindus, they immediately do it under Lightnings ....

but for the Algerians ....

and Malaysians under Damocles

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Wedmak

I also thought that this was his eye looking up. Not satellites are going to shoot down ...

I met a photo of this container in conjunction with the T-50. But I didn’t bewilder when I looked up the window with optics, as it seemed that part of the container with optics could turn the optics down or to the side, in general, where you need to look.

[VAF]

Quote: Bad_gr

I met a photo of this container in conjunction with the T-50

This is 100% 'I'm a photo-toad!

Quote: Bad_gr

But I didn’t bewilder when I looked up the window with optics, as it seemed that part of the container with optics could turn the optics down or to the side, in general, where you need to look.

They just looked inattentively ..... the "square head" cannot turn 180g ... the pylon interferes (in your photo).

But compare how the container stands on the Mig-29M2 ... see the difference ... where does the pylon end?

Here is a round yes maybe .. but it makes no sense since the shading angles from the air intakes already go! +!

[Bad_gr]

On containers I found these photos:
Peregrine Falcon






But this name is not indicated, it is written:
"... The Ural Optical and Mechanical Plant (UOMZ) conducts factory tests of an aircraft sighting container. It is equipped with a thermal imager, laser rangefinder and high-resolution optics, detects targets in poor weather conditions day and night. ..."

"... The aiming container is planned to be placed on the Su-30 aircraft - the only Russian fighter equipped with the necessary displays with the combined onboard electronics of the container and the aircraft. The two-seat aircraft allows pilots to effectively control the container and fly the aircraft.

This is the second attempt to equip the Air Force with sighting pods. Several years ago UOMZ developed the Sapsan container for the Su-27 and Su-25 aircraft. But then, due to technical problems, he never entered the series .... " http://warsonline.info/aviatsiya/k-kontsu-goda-vvs-poluchat-dlya-ispitaniy-novey
shiy-pritselniy-conteyner.html

[Bad_gr]

Quote: vaf

Thanks for the information.

[Vtel]

Su-30SM is a two-seater aircraft with engines with a controlled thrust vector, which provides it with superior maneuverability. It is equipped with a phased array radar, is capable of carrying a wide variety of missile and bomb weapons on board and hit all types of air, ground and sea targets.

Main flight characteristics of the Su-30СМ
crew - 2 person;
length - 21,9 m;
height - 6,36 m;
maximum takeoff weight - 34500 kg;
Max. speed - 2125 km / h;
combat radius - 1500 km.

Armament:

30-mm built-in gun GSH-30-1;
suspension points - 12;
combat load - 8000 kg.

[silver_roman]

Do not judge strictly, but still the question is: what is the difference between the Su-30 SM and Su-35s ??? and is there any point in purchasing various models ???
as I understand it, the difference is in engines, 35 like al-41fn, and su-30 al-31 modified, maybe the difference is still in avionics ...
Those. in fact, this is a cheaper version of the su-35s ??? for other tasks ??? or how?

[Vtel]

The aircraft fleet is worn out, the production of Su-34 and Su-35S is only just beginning to grow, and the Su-30 has already been debugged in production.
Su-35S - A heavy front-line fighter with the ability to strike at ground targets.
Su-30SM - Fighter-bomber with the ability to attack ship groups.
Su-34 - Front-line bomber with the ability to attack air targets.

[Odysseus]

Quote: silver_roman

Do not judge strictly, but still the question is: what is the difference between the Su-30 SM and Su-35s ??? and is there any point in purchasing various models ???

The difference is written below. If briefly, the engine, avionics, the presence of a co-pilot.
But as to whether they are needed ... The question is very controversial, due to the ambiguity of the general strategy of the army.
In my opinion, the Su-30 is the most successful and necessary of all the numerous upgrades of the Su-27.

[Avenger711]

The co-pilot is ALWAYS lowering the performance characteristics.

[pensioner]

Well ... Pleasing! He lived ... You can already have that ... And then I thought that some kind of sad scribe turned out to me ... But right now you can with bears, tambourines and gypsies! We rise from the knees!

[Tarpon]

What are you? Which scribe? Life is just beginning!

[Manager]

Quote: retired

Lived ... You can already have that ..

What are you! Retired life is just beginning! For many years to you and a hundred great-grandchildren!

[Wedmak]

As a result, it would be necessary to conclude a contract for the complete rearmament of a couple of regiments. With continued follow-up.

[GSH-18]

Quote: Wedmak

As a result, it would be necessary to conclude a contract for the complete rearmament of a couple of regiments. With continued follow-up.

I think such quantities of procurement of the Su-30cm are justified. The 5th Russian aviation generation T-50 is on the way! Apparently for him a place to book. God grant.
The news is very bright.

[Wedmak]

On the way 5-e Russian aviation generation T-50! Apparently for him a place to book. God grant.

God grant. But you still have to live up to this. While they will be adopted, while they will be built, while they will teach the pilots ... In the meantime, 30СМ, Su and MIG 35е, in a series, but more, more! They won’t be superfluous, for sure.

[aleshka1987]

Please explain who is in the subject, for what specialized tasks is the Su-30SM intended for? What is their difference from the tasks of the Su-35?
And another question, who knows how we deal with p-77 (RVV-AE) missiles, are they in the troops?

[Bronis]

May Vaf not be angry with me, may he bring me a righteous punishment and anathema ...
The main difference between Su-30 is double (grew from Su-27UB), Su-35 is single. Su-30 can be used as a percussion machine, and most importantly - as a training machine (the benefit of the 2 pilot) Actually, they are going to actively use it in the latter quality. For training on the same Su-35 and, possibly, PAK FA (at least, until / if a double modification appears). Technical differences are mainly due to the application concept. This is for specialists.

[VAF]

Quote: Bronis

May Vaf not be angry with me, may he bring me a righteous punishment and anathema.

In principle, not at all. Only the refinement (written already above) is not UB, but PU!

And about the "educational" it is very much a stretch ... very !!!! Su-30M2 .. is more suitable for this "role", like UBSh-ka, that for SM-ok (su-27-x), that for su-35-x .... but according to "an adult is necessary for su- 35s to make their own Su-35UB (T-10UBM) 9 so it is just suitable for the Su-35S and for the future T-50)!

Here in the photo they are just standing together

[Bronis]

Oh, thanks! in general, alive and scruff almost does not hurt ...
Then the question also arises. The year in 2011 4 Su-30М2 KNAAPO set. Now - 60 SM. And learn from what? Proca about serial production of UBM - neither to rumor, nor to spirit. And with the current dates (even if you are bothered) - this is in the second half of the decade (somewhere 2016-17)

[VAF]

Quote: Bronis

The year in 2011 4 Su-30M2 KNAAPO delivered.

There was such a thing-10.20.30.40 tail numbers ... two are used by the Crimean ones (in Morozovsk now), and two 20 and 40 on the Far East, one in Dzemgi, one in Ts.U ... there on the Su-27SM completely with sparks. . "trouble"!

Quote: Bronis

Now - 60 CM. And learn from what?

Those who fly on the Su-30SM will learn on them, without "separation" from .. "production" so to speak.

Well, on the Su-35S, whoever will retrain, then .. they will "adjust" again the Su-30M2 ... they are very similar in cockpit architecture and fittings

Well, the question is .. where will the first su-35S go .. if to the Far East, then there they have already mastered the SM-ki in full volume .. there will be no problems, but next year ... they will come up with something!

[Odysseus]

Quote: aleshka1987

Please explain who is in the subject, for what specialized tasks is the Su-30SM intended for? What is their difference from the tasks of the Su-35?
And another question, who knows how we deal with p-77 (RVV-AE) missiles, are they in the troops?

About the aircraft they answered you.
There are no and will not be about the R-77 missiles in the troops. But the RVV-SD (product 180) has been promised for several years already. Let's hope it does not appear in single copies. It is very necessary.

[PLO]

they say R-77 missiles manufactured by Vympel are bought in small batches.

and a photo in the subject
Su-35S with mock-ups (?)

[Odysseus]

Quote: olp

they say R-77 missiles manufactured by Vympel are bought in small batches.

I haven’t heard. I’ll try to find out. I also believe that nobody will refuse from the R-77

Quote: olp

and a photo in the subject
Su-35S with mock-ups (?)

With layouts. Beautiful photo.

[Avenger711]

IMHO specifically with us for the same ones, since the expansion of the production of the Su-35 does not allow you to quickly replace the materiel.

[Sochi]

Good airplanes are very good. Here's another used pilots to fly them, used 400-600 hours a year ...

[Airman]

Quote: Sochi

Good airplanes are very good. Here's another used pilots to fly them, used 400-600 hours a year ...

Even in Soviet times, fighter raids were about 250 hours per year (on average).

[KononAV]

Akhtubinsk my homeland is nice to read such news)))

[viktorR]

But I’m wondering, is it that Sergei Kobylash who was shot down during the attack on the 08.08.08 war? Was he like that in five years? Well, not bad, he’s kind of a man not bad, Hero of the Russian Federation.

[fduch]

Well, he was already a 368 cap commander, colonel

[aleshka1987]

Quote: Odyssey

Quote: aleshka1987

Please explain who is in the subject, for what specialized tasks is the Su-30SM intended for? What is their difference from the tasks of the Su-35?
And another question, who knows how we deal with p-77 (RVV-AE) missiles, are they in the troops?

About the aircraft they answered you.
There are no and will not be about the R-77 missiles in the troops. But the RVV-SD (product 180) has been promised for several years already. Let's hope it does not appear in single copies. It is very necessary.

Thank you very much for the answer! But did RVV-AE be produced on an industrial scale, was it exported to someone, to India, for example?

[Odysseus]

Quote: aleshka1987

Thank you very much for the answer! But did RVV-AE be produced on an industrial scale, was it exported to someone, to India, for example?

Yes, it was purely exported. It was shipped to India, China, maybe somewhere else. I won’t say exactly the scale. It seems to be quite normal at the present time.
RVV-SD, in fact, its modified version.

[papss]

Quote: aviator_IAS

Quote: DC 3

Something a combat radius of 1500 km, is not small ??? sort of like the Su-27 was about 4000 km.

You confuse the practical range with a radius (which is always half as much). And the combat radius of action is even a little less. So one and a half thousand is normal.

And in comparison with the Su-30mk?