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Experts explain the appearance of Russian ATGM in Syrian militants

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The newspaper Al-Shark al-Ausat, published in the British capital, reports with reference to its own sources in the command of the Army of Free Syria, that opposition fighters have recently received the Russian-made Konkurs 250 order. Virtually all missiles were delivered to radical Islamist groups. The article notes the fact that anti-tank missiles were delivered to Syria by one of the countries in the region and fell into the hands of militants through Turkey. New anti-tank weapons were transferred to the most combat-ready units of the Islamists, who are fighting in the Damascus, Aleppo and Idlib areas.


According to the newspaper, in parallel with these supplies in Turkey, consultations are under way with the participation of Syrian opposition forces. At these consultations, the issue of expanding arms supplies to opposition forces is being resolved. Al-Sharq Al-Ausat newspaper claims that this process will occur with the approval of the US administration. It is worth noting that in the last 2 of the month a lot of videos appeared on the Internet, where you can see the defeat by the opposition fighters of the armored vehicles of the Syrian government army. Allegedly, in most cases, Syrian militants used Russian-made anti-tank missiles.

Deliveries to Syria of Russian-made anti-tank missile systems (ATGM) could be made through Lebanon from Libya, in an interview with RIA News told Igor Korotchenko, who is the editor-in-chief of the magazine National Defense. Earlier, in a number of media outlets, information was published that the Syrian opposition militants had recently received about Konkurs 250. According to Korotchenko, Saudi Arabia or Qatar can stand for the supply of anti-tank systems, or the United States. From the territory of Libya, where a large number of Soviet and Russian weapons, such a delivery option is more than possible, if, of course, the information that appeared in the press is actually true.

Experts explain the appearance of Russian ATGM in Syrian militants

Currently, this is nothing more than publications in the media, at the same time, any data must first be carefully checked, said Igor Korotchenko. He also added that illegal deliveries of various weapons to the Syrian opposition units have been going on for at least a year, despite assurances from US President Barack Obama that deliveries can only begin in August of this year.

The interlocutor of the RIA Novosti news agency explained that from Libyan territory the weapon enters the sea in Lebanon, where it is loaded into car trailers and delivered to the insurgents through uncontrolled parts of the Syrian border. Korochenko doubts that the state - the legal buyers of Russian weapons would begin to carry out such re-export shipments. “Russia always requests an end-user certificate. This means that the government of the country in question provides Russia with an official guarantee that the weapons supplied by the Russian side will be used only by the armed forces of this state. I believe that legal buyers of Russian arms would at least refrain from such re-export shipments, ”explained Igor Korotchenko.

The expert noted that if the Syrian government forces succeed in capturing specific models of anti-tank systems, it will be easy to determine from the available serial numbers where these weapons were produced and to whom they were shipped. “We should not forget that after the overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi in Libya, the Soviet and then Russian weapons, which were in the army warehouses, he bought were looted and pillaged. Then one of the Western intelligence services organized a secret channel for the supply of part of this Libyan weapon to the Syrian rebels. About this earlier, last year, the world media have already written. It is precisely this that seems to be the most probable and reliable variant of how Russian ATGMs could fall into the hands of armed opposition groups, ”the expert noted.


ATCM "Competition-M"

Vozimo-portable ATGM "Konkurs-M" is designed to destroy modern armored vehicles, including those equipped with dynamic protection, fortified enemy firing points, fixed and mobile small-sized ground and floating targets, as well as low-flying helicopters, including in difficult meteorological conditions and at any time of the day. This anti-tank complex was created in the famous Instrument Design Bureau in the city of Tula. The complex was adopted by the Russian army in 1991 year. The creation of this complex was an undoubted achievement in the field of anti-tank weapons KBP from the city of Tula, and paved the way for this KB to a leading position in this market segment.

If necessary, the launcher of the complex and ammunition can be quickly dismantled and removed from the combat vehicle for autonomous shooting. Combat calculation of ATGM - 2 man, missile control system - semi-automatic. Commands are transmitted via a wired communication line. On the launcher, the 9ШХNNXXМ119 visor is mounted, the 1PN1 or 65PN1-86 “Mulat” thermal imaging device can also be used. This ATGM can use the ATGM of the earlier Fagot systems (1М9, 111М9М) as well as the Konkurs (111М9) as ammunition. In this case, the actions of the operator of the complex do not change when changing anti-tank missiles.

The main carriers of ATGMs are armored tracked and wheeled combat vehicles: BMP-1, BMP-2, BMD, BTRD, MT-LB, BRDM-2, as well as light vehicles like jeep and even motorcycles, as well as other vehicles. A missile equipped with a tandem warhead is able to hit targets at a distance from 75 meters to 4000 meters in the daytime and to 2500 meters at night, the armor penetration of the missiles amounts to 800 mm.

Information sources:
-http: //ria.ru/arab_sy/20130620/944658700-print.html
-http: //newsland.com/news/detail/id/1197820
-http: //rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/concursm/concursm.shtml
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 21 June 2013 09: 22 New
    40
    I put the article + for information, but the news itself, of course, is nasty.
    1. Papakiko
      Papakiko 21 June 2013 09: 33 New
      +8
      Quote: Vladimirets
      but the news itself is, of course, filthy

      The article did not reveal any "America".
      In this option, each of us can be called an EXPERT.
    2. Sandov
      Sandov 21 June 2013 09: 36 New
      18
      Vladimir.
      It feels like they’ve spoiled the soul. With our weapons, banduks destroy our own military equipment.
      1. ATATA
        ATATA 21 June 2013 10: 48 New
        10
        Quote: Sandov
        Vladimir.
        It feels like they’ve spoiled the soul. With our weapons, banduks destroy our own military equipment.

        What a refined romantic you are! laughing
        And the Kalashnikovs in the hands of the militants do not cause you such feelings?
        Yes, there are at least 50% of the weapons of the militants of our production!
        When did you fall from the moon?
        1. DRUG DRUG
          DRUG DRUG 21 June 2013 12: 20 New
          +3
          Quote: ATATA
          And the Kalashnikovs in the hands of the militants do not cause you such feelings?
          Yes, there are at least 50% of the weapons of the militants of our production!

          The Kalashnikovs of the militants are not Russian-made, but counterfeit - Chinese and European. And then the machine - not ATGM. A tank is destroyed here, and our T-72 tanks are there. Therefore, it was not at ease from such news. And it’s not good that Russia, as it were, would have circumvented them, is unpleasant. It is necessary to understand clearly - where they came from.
          1. skeptic
            skeptic 21 June 2013 22: 15 New
            +3
            Quote: DRUG DRUG
            And then the machine - not ATGM. A tank is destroyed here, and our T-72 tanks are there. Therefore, it was not at ease from such news. And it’s not good that Russia, as it were, would have circumvented them, is unpleasant. It is necessary to understand clearly - where they came from.


            It is for such doubts that the West acquires Russian weapons and their analogues. It is easier to declare Russia an "evil empire" for ordinary people, when from all sides, weapons and ammunition are Russian. And any excuses, eggs are not worth a damn - the costs of information war. THANKS TO TRADERS from the MIC. Grandma is above reason and a sense of self-preservation.
        2. Che
          Che 21 June 2013 19: 26 New
          +2
          Half the world’s Kalashnikovs are already being riveted both under license and bypass. Even Israel created its own galil on the basis of Kalash.
    3. Hammer
      Hammer 21 June 2013 10: 16 New
      +3
      Fucking is not the right word ... the abominable nature of Western palitics knows no bounds, we just once again became convinced of this. When this does not work, what else will they come up with? They will start mass chemical. Libyan weapons to use? ...
      1. bazilio
        bazilio 21 June 2013 10: 36 New
        +3
        Here it is, the flip side of the supply of weapons to friendly regimes. In this context, the suspension of C300 supplies to Iran seems quite logical. If Iran, having received the C300, changes its political course and acquires its own nuclear weapons, then here you can run into your own S300.
        Regarding the question "where do the legs grow from" the Libyan trace looks the most real. But it seems to me that the Western and pro-Western media will explain it all completely differently - Russia, wanting to put pressure on Assad and get even more preferences for oil production, secretly supplies Syrian militants with its ATGMs. Assad, in order to restore the lost armored vehicles, will ask Moscow to sell tanks, armored personnel carriers, etc. Moscow will agree to sell tanks in exchange for the right to mine, and possibly for the right to locate another base. Of course, this version is nonsense, but we all know perfectly well how the Western media shove the most crazy versions, theories and facts to their citizens with a bang. Here you need to be vigilant
        1. fokino1980
          fokino1980 21 June 2013 10: 56 New
          +1
          Tell me why you teach them! 'Cause they use your clue like that bully
          1. bazilio
            bazilio 21 June 2013 13: 12 New
            0
            Quote: fokino1980
            Tell me why you teach them! 'Cause they use your hint bully like that

            How to drive a blizzard and invent nonsense, it is they themselves whom they want to teach. They (the Western media) and not come up with this)))
    4. Cynic
      Cynic 21 June 2013 11: 27 New
      +5
      Quote: Vladimirets
      but the news itself is, of course, filthy.

      News ?!
      They voiced an obvious fact, like, before that, the presence of our MAN, or rather Libyan, MANPADS!
      1. avant-garde
        avant-garde 21 June 2013 11: 41 New
        14
        Looking at this photo, I remembered a joke:
        There is a demonstrational review of weapons, everyone is running and shooting, and here the journalist notices a lonely standing tattered little soldier with a grenade launcher, approaches him and asks:
        -That you are so small, thin, and you have such a formidable weapon, what parting words did the commander say to you giving you this weapon
        - (fighter) Don’t miss ... and the grenade launcher ... yeah!
      2. Nayhas
        Nayhas 21 June 2013 12: 11 New
        +1
        This is a photo from the captured warehouse, this is Igla-S MANPADS that Russia supplied to Syria, and the valiant Syrian soldiers threw the militants to their joy ...
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 21 June 2013 12: 24 New
          +8
          Quote: Nayhas
          and the valiant Syrian warriors threw the militants to their joy ...

          Traitors were never valiant warriors!
          Skillful, bold (!), But you never know what, but valiant ... Never!

          This photo was taken in one of the areas of Aleppo captured by militants. The inscription reads: "He who does not spit on me has no honor." The girl also has her ID at her feet. To the "pillory" the victim was nailed by the so-called. the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice in Aleppo, set up by the fundamentalist factions of the FSA.
          1. revnagan
            revnagan 21 June 2013 14: 41 New
            13
            Quote: Cynic
            The inscription reads: "He who does not spit on me has no honor." The girl also has her ID at her feet. To the "pillory" the victim was nailed by the so-called. the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice in Aleppo, set up by the fundamentalist factions of the FSA.

            "He who raised his hand against a woman is not worthy of respect ..." - so, it seems, says the Koran? What is the attitude of terrorists to Islam, a clear example. Savages, their mother ...
      3. smprofi
        smprofi 21 June 2013 23: 24 New
        +1
        Quote: Cynic
        Voiced an obvious fact

        in general, yes. el-Ghad channel about "Competition" and MANPADS



        on 2 '09 "handsome men pose with MANPADS. Russian (Soviet) and Chinese.
        and also Uryukov lit up HJ-8 from the Hunhus



        but they are in their native land



        and in the next news, the author sheds tears and calls on the hunghuzes to fight the "revolutionaries" ...
    5. silver_roman
      silver_roman 21 June 2013 13: 05 New
      +7
      and the most incomprehensible thing for me personally is that the Russian Federation is building a plant in Jordan to manufacture just anti-tank systems like (if I'm mistaken, correct it). And Jordan is famous for its love of licking the fifth point of Syshya and also actively supports this whole trash in Syria.
      1. bazilio
        bazilio 21 June 2013 13: 16 New
        +2
        Quote: silver_roman
        The Russian Federation is building a plant in Jordan to produce just anti-tank systems like (

        Yes, it was something like RPG-32 Hashim. But this topic began about 4 years ago, then there were probably slightly different views on the situation
        1. silver_roman
          silver_roman 21 June 2013 17: 25 New
          +1
          well, anyway ... Jordan, as far as I know, has always been under sysyya. That and in general RPG-32 is an extremely dangerous thing for a tank, I'm not talking about lighter combat platforms. and given that there is almost no control in Jordan at all, such complexes can end up in some kind of Georgia, which has itchy hands.

          Nevertheless, I only heard about the RPG-29 vampire, although in fact it is probably some kind of modification.
    6. Hunghuz
      Hunghuz 21 June 2013 15: 58 New
      +1
      hi and what for Jordan sold the plant for the production of RPG-32 Hashim ......... ??? it would be better for Iran)))
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      2. skeptic
        skeptic 21 June 2013 22: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: Hunghouse
        and what for Jordan sold the plant for the production of RPG-32 Hashim ......... ???


        That it would be easier to substitute Russia. What would friends of Russia hollowed, the same Russian weapons.
  2. Mizhgan
    Mizhgan 21 June 2013 09: 25 New
    +4
    There are more than enough gray schemes even on the arms market ... Anyone can supply weapons ... And there is one way to track, (as stated in the article) these are serial numbers. Not entirely competent in the question, but it seems to me that there is a "detour" here too: to grind off the numbers, etch out, interrupt ... etc.
    1. ded_73
      ded_73 21 June 2013 09: 50 New
      +1
      Let me disagree, dear! If we are talking about selling light rifle rifles stolen from military units, then yes - everyone. Everything else is only at the state level, even "gray" (not to mention "black") supplies. The legislation of the Russian Federation, as a member of the Wassenaar Treaty, clearly defines the export control system. Therefore, yes, it will not be difficult to determine by the number, but it is a matter of honor to demand explanations from buyers - why and how, in this case. End-user certificates carry a clear message - no re-export without the seller's permission.
      1. cdrt
        cdrt 21 June 2013 15: 00 New
        +1
        hmm ... well you're not quite right.
        I read an interesting book - in which it was mentioned how the movie "The Armory Baron" was shot. It turns out to be largely based on real events. And there were helicopters and planes, and armored personnel carriers, BRDM ...
        It seems like black trade, but the scale is still state: to buy in Ukraine, to sell to Africa / South America.
  3. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 21 June 2013 09: 30 New
    +3
    Yes, from Libyan "comrades" how to drink, Muammar's stash.
  4. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 21 June 2013 09: 38 New
    +3
    At one time, the United States bought a large batch of AKM from Egypt, which the USSR sold to its "Middle Eastern friends" and delivered it to Afghan dushmans.
    And interestingly, on data (export) PTR it is possible to install a "bug" to remotely disable them, for example, undermining at the time of the shot. It would be great! am am am
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 21 June 2013 09: 53 New
      +5
      The main supplier of AK to the mujahideen of Afghanistan was China, not the United States, almost all AK in Afghanistan were of Chinese origin.
  5. pensioner
    pensioner 21 June 2013 09: 53 New
    +6
    Once I read the memoirs of our pilot who fought in Egypt. I remember one phrase: "A man in the East has 2 worthy occupations: war and trade. Better all together!" Not surprised. But it is necessary to bring these traders to clean water.
    1. atalef
      atalef 21 June 2013 19: 52 New
      -4
      Quote: retired
      "A man in the East has 2 worthy occupations: war and trade. Better all together!"

      Well, they are so-so warriors laughing
      Well, because Syria (and all BV countries) was bred into the headstock of the USSR and Russia - the merchants are excellent.
      1. vadson
        vadson 22 June 2013 09: 59 New
        +4
        to the Arabs before the Jews in terms of trade like the moon cancer
      2. azilan
        azilan 22 June 2013 11: 20 New
        +1
        In the world there is no fighter brave,
        Than a frightened Jew ... laughing
  6. shinobi
    shinobi 21 June 2013 10: 01 New
    +4
    There are special markers on these devices. Where they know the current specialists and it is impossible to remove them without destroying the device. About two months later it will become clear where these gifts arrived, respectively, who is that generous soul. Although it is generally clear, ifa is enough that they Islamist groups. Bad news, shorter.
  7. Nayhas
    Nayhas 21 June 2013 10: 02 New
    0
    Authors, ATGM Competition will turn 40 soon! This is the oldest ATGM, somewhat improved bassoon! Whose language has turned to call the Contest modern? Against the T-72, it is useless! Moreover, it is dangerous for those who will use it, because guidance is carried out visually, and control is by wire, so after launch the operator needs to wait until the ATGM hits the target (or where else), during which time he has a great chance to become a martyr ... If the Americans really begin to help the SSA, then they Javelins will appear and then Assad’s tankers will feel bad, but somehow it’s hard to believe that the United States will provide such assistance ...
    1. fokino1980
      fokino1980 21 June 2013 10: 59 New
      +1
      In vain do you not believe in the USA! These can do everything! They are the main ones in this world! Who will stop them?
      1. Nayhas
        Nayhas 21 June 2013 12: 20 New
        0
        Well tady why SSA are still fighting AK and RPG-7? Well, if the Javelins squeezed, then why not supply the same Carl Gustaf M3 or AT-4CS? Not to mention anti-tank mines?
    2. Professor
      Professor 21 June 2013 11: 02 New
      +8
      Quote: Nayhas
      Against the T-72, it is useless!

      Yah? Is it your Javelin or 40 summer ATGM?
      1. Nayhas
        Nayhas 21 June 2013 12: 08 New
        +3
        Duc T-72 naked, without DZ, got to the sidelines all the more ...
        1. zxz71
          zxz71 21 June 2013 15: 04 New
          0
          out of the blue. sideways. like on a training ground. Sorry!
      2. Cynic
        Cynic 21 June 2013 12: 42 New
        +4
        Quote: Professor
        Yah? Is it your Javelin or 40 summer ATGM?

        I don’t know what kind of anti-tank missile system has been used, but the tactics of using tanks are captured innovative!
        I’m silent about the absence of remote sensing, etc. , which leads to certain thoughts!
        1. Professor
          Professor 21 June 2013 12: 45 New
          +9
          Quote: Cynic
          I’m silent about the absence of remote sensing, etc. , which leads to certain thoughts!

          Call a spade a spade - hands grow out of ... and no brains
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 21 June 2013 13: 05 New
            +3
            Quote: Professor
            hands grow out of ... and no brains

            Or staging.
            hi
            1. Professor
              Professor 21 June 2013 13: 54 New
              0
              Quote: Cynic
              Or staging.

              They also spoke about the video where Javelin smashes the T-72 to shreds. However, the storming of Grozny and recent events in Syria show that sometimes the ammunition detonates so that practically nothing remains of the tank.

              Quote: loki565
              Well, Javelin can fly along a horizontal trajectory, and so 40-year-old ATGM will hit any modern tank

              Is your tank broken on your video? Where such confidence?
              1. loki565
                loki565 21 June 2013 15: 10 New
                +3
                On the other video, it’s seen that he got into the frontal projection of the tower, (they managed to turn towards the shot) the crew is alive and hastily leaves the tank at one of the slightly injured hands
              2. Cynic
                Cynic 21 June 2013 18: 42 New
                0
                Quote: Professor
                However, the storming of Grozny and recent events in Syria show that sometimes the ammunition detonates so that practically nothing remains of the tank.

                Hmm.
                How is it _ Speed ​​do not drop on bends?
                Respected Professor do not try to play the psyche so rudely, it doesn’t work on the forum natives!
                I remember very well all these videos and the hi-lu-lu-kanye of some gentlemen.
                Yes, that forum, I remember Pasha-Mercedes’s statement about the unacceptable imperfection of Soviet tanks _ Which, all in all, are completely surrounded by just 3 hours (pah and grind !!!) can hold out!
                Are you the same of these evaluators?
                Yes, even
                Javelin smashes T-72 to shreds

                As beautifully said, talent!
                hi
          2. zvereok
            zvereok 21 June 2013 16: 24 New
            0
            Nifigase explosion. Is that tactical nuclear weapon used?
      3. loki565
        loki565 21 June 2013 13: 38 New
        +1
        Well, Javelin can fly along a horizontal trajectory, and so 40-year-old ATGM will hit any modern tank
      4. igor67
        igor67 21 June 2013 22: 06 New
        -2
        Here is someone who made a selection of not much about wrecked tanks in Syria:
        1. UzRus
          UzRus 22 June 2013 10: 45 New
          0
          Damn it, they are all "naked" ... Well, how can you, eh?
        2. azilan
          azilan 22 June 2013 11: 31 New
          0
          Yes, an unpleasant sight. It’s just simply a budget version of tanks, a minimum of protection, hu .. if I say.
    3. Cynic
      Cynic 21 June 2013 12: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: Nayhas
      If the Americans really begin to help the SSA, then they will have the Javelins and then Assad’s tankers will feel bad, but somehow it is hardly believed that the United States will provide such assistance ...

      It’s the fact that it’s just such, Javelin, that one really believes with difficulty, but ours ...
    4. cdrt
      cdrt 21 June 2013 15: 03 New
      0
      All of our portable ATGMs except the Competition are visually aimed at the target, and the control is by wire.
      As well as Hot, Tow (-2 which is normal), Milan, Bill, Erix ...
      And where did you get the idea that the T-72 contest is useless? Competition-M seems to have quite the same normal penetration behind dynamic protection ...
      1. Professor
        Professor 21 June 2013 15: 04 New
        -1
        Quote: cdrt
        All of our portable ATGMs except the Competition are visually aimed at the target, and the control is by wire.

        What kind of wires does Cornet have?
  8. uhu189
    uhu189 21 June 2013 10: 05 New
    +5
    Yes, that’s all very unpleasant ... And the further - the more there will be such facts. And more recently, in Jordan, a joint venture opened for the production of modern anti-tank grenade launchers. I will not be surprised that soon they will emerge in Syria ...
  9. Algor73
    Algor73 21 June 2013 10: 06 New
    +4
    I always say that weapons are supplied to Countries and People own them. And what schemes were used for deliveries by the complex - "gray", "black" or other colors, does not matter. I doubt that Russia will find the extreme, or in general, whether it will look is not the case. Yes, and the Syrians are deeply sideways, from which grenade launcher the tank was hit. You shouldn't make a tragedy out of this. We do the tragedy ourselves, but not the Syrians. And how horrible weapons militants can write to anyone, it will still be untrue.
  10. avant-garde
    avant-garde 21 June 2013 10: 24 New
    +3
    And after all, all these weapons come from countries where these geeks established "democracy" am. It's a shame, very a shame !!!
  11. kosmos84
    kosmos84 21 June 2013 10: 36 New
    +1
    I was not allowed to shoot with such a
    1. fokino1980
      fokino1980 21 June 2013 11: 00 New
      +2
      Still shoot! lol
  12. vitas
    vitas 21 June 2013 10: 59 New
    +2
    It is sad that the advertisement of our drop dead anti-tank missiles is done on our T-72 crashed.
  13. Professor
    Professor 21 June 2013 10: 59 New
    +4
    “Russia always requests an end-user certificate. This means that the government of the country in question provides Russia with an official guarantee that the weapons supplied by the Russian side will be used only by the armed forces of that state. I believe that legal buyers of Russian weapons would at least refrain from such re-export deliveries, ”explained Igor Korotchenko.

    This is how we can explain the use of Hezbollah fighters by the Russian ATGM Cornet?
    1. avant-garde
      avant-garde 21 June 2013 11: 11 New
      +1
      Damascus is written on the boxes, what does Hezbollah have to do with it ???
      1. Professor
        Professor 21 June 2013 11: 29 New
        -1
        Exactly, the end user was supposed to be in Syria, and the boxes with missiles ended up (of course themselves) in southern Lebanon.

        Quote: saturn.mmm
        I do not deny that Hezbala used the ATGM Cornet, but this photo is to prove that the ATGM Cornet from Syria is not pulling.

        Of course, the reservists carried a stencil or even the boxes themselves and organized a fake in a Lebanese village.
        IMHO serial numbers were transferred to the Russian military attache in Israel and the incident was strangely hushed up.
        1. avant-garde
          avant-garde 21 June 2013 11: 44 New
          +1
          How did you determine from this photo that it is in the hands of Hezbollah ???
          1. Professor
            Professor 21 June 2013 12: 17 New
            +8
            Quote: avant-garde
            How did you determine from this photo that it is in the hands of Hezbollah ???

            Let's think ... Captured in a Shiite village in southern Lebanon where, apart from Hezbollah, the last 6 years have not been anyone, it was captured during the war with Hezbollah ... They probably belonged to the Red Cross wassat
            1. avant-garde
              avant-garde 21 June 2013 12: 23 New
              +1
              I somehow can’t determine from these mailboxes whether it is captured or standing on loading, and the coordinates are somehow difficult to determine from them, since you upload photos so at least write comments on where and how.
              1. Professor
                Professor 21 June 2013 12: 33 New
                +1
                Quote: avant-garde
                I somehow can’t determine from these mailboxes whether it is captured or standing on loading, and the coordinates are somehow difficult to determine from them, since you upload photos so at least write comments on where and how.

                I apologize. This topic was also discussed more than once, as I missed that maybe someone else is not in the know.

                Hezbollah anti-tank weapons: trophies of the Second Lebanon War

                Iranian Cornets
                1. avant-garde
                  avant-garde 21 June 2013 12: 51 New
                  +1
                  Now another thing yes
                2. Vadivak
                  Vadivak 21 June 2013 12: 55 New
                  +7
                  Quote: Professor
                  that maybe someone else is not in the know.

                  Hi Oleg, well, I don’t want people to believe that the Arabs are so corrupt, here at least the photo doesn’t believe the invoice
                  1. avant-garde
                    avant-garde 21 June 2013 12: 59 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Vadivak
                    here at least a photo even an invoice will not believe

                    And they won’t believe it here, I just didn’t know what kind of photo it was and where it came from, and since it wasn’t the psychic who asked me to tell you, that’s all!
        2. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 21 June 2013 13: 04 New
          +1
          Quote: Professor
          Israel and in a strange way, the incident was hushed up.

          So I say that it reminds a joke about Stirlitz.
          February 23, Stirlitz put on his old, beloved Budenovka, took
          in the hands of a red banner and, singing revolutionary songs, went to
          Reich Chancellery. On this day, he was more than ever close to failure.

          In general, I don’t know enough about the Arab world and the mentality of Arabs when the Syrians sign a document prohibiting re-export, and then send ATRAs to Hezbollah in boxes with their address?
          1. Professor
            Professor 21 June 2013 13: 57 New
            +2
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            In general, I don’t know enough about the Arab world and the mentality of Arabs when the Syrians sign a document prohibiting re-export, and then send ATRAs to Hezbollah in boxes with their address?

            It is in their routine to sign an agreement and immediately violate it. So when Arafat was allowed to return from Tunisia to the West Bank, he, in violation of the agreements just signed, carried a couple of wanted armed terrorists in the trunk of his car.

            PS
            Well, what was the part of Russia for the fact that its Assad and the Cornets framed? Nothing!
            1. saturn.mmm
              saturn.mmm 21 June 2013 15: 04 New
              -1
              Quote: Professor
              Well, what was the part of Russia for the fact that its Assad and the Cornets framed? Nothing!

              in a strange way, the incident was hushed up.
              The diplomats had to disgrace and give in to something.
            2. Che
              Che 21 June 2013 19: 44 New
              0
              Rats seized a warehouse with weapons, this option does not work for the professor?
    2. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 21 June 2013 11: 21 New
      0
      Quote: Professor
      This is how we can explain the use of Hezbollah fighters by the Russian ATGM Cornet?

      The photograph with the boxes reminded the jokes about Stirlitz. I do not deny that Hezbala used the ATGM Cornet, but this photo is to prove that the ATGM Cornet from Syria is not pulling.
  14. ed65b
    ed65b 21 June 2013 11: 02 New
    +3
    The article is more like trolling public opinion. it is not clear whether or not it is, but experts have already issued conclusions. Conveniently and simply Russia arms everyone and warms their hands on it, then they will say that Russia will benefit from the continuation of the conflict, as it deals with arms sales to both militants and Assad, who benefit from double benefits. something like that they are masters, will formulate.
    1. omsbon
      omsbon 21 June 2013 11: 27 New
      0
      Quote: ed65b
      then they will say that it is beneficial for Russia to continue the conflict, since by selling weapons to both militants and Assad, they will receive double benefits. something like that they are masters, will formulate.

      No one has declared the cessation of the information war so that one must be prepared for it, especially in Syria. In what, we Russians, have always been weak, in relation to the West, this is in slander and lies against our enemies.
  15. common man
    common man 21 June 2013 11: 03 New
    +1
    A couple of days ago, all the people were delighted with "Putin's victory over the seven and Obama in particular." I think guys are happy early. The Americans, like encephalitis ticks, will grab onto, you can't pick it off. It does not work directly, they will harm on the quiet. Encourage others. As they can shake the situation, and again they will return to accepting their plans. So, nothing is ending in Syria, it is just beginning.
  16. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 21 June 2013 11: 12 New
    +4
    The sad news ... Losses will increase. But in principle, no wunderwaffles will save the bandits.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 21 June 2013 11: 27 New
      +1
      Hi Ivan! How are you feeling?
    2. Cynic
      Cynic 21 June 2013 11: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: Stroibat stock
      sad news ... Losses will increase.

      You might think this only happened, only!
      The West has long been driving weapons to Syria to terrorists! A long time ago !
      And to be absolutely precise, the Yusovites did not announce the supply of weapons, but their increase!
  17. 128mgb
    128mgb 21 June 2013 12: 39 New
    +1
    An armament scheme similar to Afghanistan began to work. Western intelligence is buying up, taking weapons where possible and delivering it to the SSA. Cheap and cheerful, and it seems that the West has nothing to do with it. The weapon is Russian.
  18. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 21 June 2013 14: 07 New
    +3
    The high probability of the Libyan Trail of Contests is cheap and cheerful.
    Warehouses must have been looted - democracy has come, now everything can be ...

    And in the first photo, the near tank is the T-72 of the first samples. Export modification of the 172 object with an optical sight, simplified SLA and WITHOUT bells and whistles in armor protection.

    The old veteran ... exh.
    1. Professor
      Professor 21 June 2013 14: 14 New
      -3
      Quote: Aleks tv
      The high probability of the Libyan Trail of Contests is cheap and cheerful.

      Not at all. Assad himself distributed them to whom he wanted now and is reaping the benefits.
      ATGM "Competition" and "Competition-M" (Towsan-1 in Iran)
      1. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 21 June 2013 14: 54 New
        +4
        Quote: Professor
        Assad himself distributed them


        Professor, well, where does such awareness and categoricalness come from?

        Personally, I wrote "high probability", and you are direct "by no means, he Himself."
        Competitions scattered around the world, namely THESE militants Assad shoved ... probably also offered money to get it ... heh.

        Sometimes you read - competently and carefully everything
        And sometimes - well, you are simply amazed, at least stand at least fall.

        No offense. Not a minus.
        1. Professor
          Professor 21 June 2013 14: 58 New
          0
          What insults can be? wink
          Firstly, I made a reference to the captured weapons that Assad handed out to various terrorist organizations, in particular the Hezbollah Competitions.
          Secondly, YouTube is full of commercials where the rebels capture warehouses with Assad weapons. He could not mine / destroy them?
  19. Remko
    Remko 21 June 2013 14: 42 New
    +1
    It would be nice if Azerbaijan would throw the recently purchased TOS-1A into Syria, after all, too, Shiites by faith. I think after several volleys, it would be possible to sanitize Syria from Wahhabism for a couple of years.
  20. pamero
    pamero 21 June 2013 14: 52 New
    +2
    Our country sells weapons is a fact. Those forces then resell it, this is also a fait accompli. Such is the world all in the WTO, we will not do anything with these. He could be stolen, resold, gifted. Our interest is commercial and political!
  21. washi
    washi 21 June 2013 15: 35 New
    0
    We have a reason for the use of troops - not the legitimate use of military equipment. Purpose of operation: withdrawal of sold weapons from countries with absent government or not legal (Libya), lack of democracy (Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Iran, Iraq, USA,)
  22. loki565
    loki565 21 June 2013 15: 49 New
    0
    Quote: Professor
    He could not mine / destroy them?
    This question was asked a lot at the beginning of the first Chechen one, there were also strategic depots there
    1. Professor
      Professor 21 June 2013 15: 54 New
      -1
      In Transnistria, all warehouses were immediately mined, and Assad hasn’t learned anything since 2 of the year.
  23. lelikas
    lelikas 21 June 2013 16: 34 New
    0
    Quote: Cynic
    Or staging.

    Yes, most likely, the tank is barely moving back, the tower does not move at all, the mechanics got out for 10 seconds, there was a pause, then it was blown up. But it turned out even cooler than in Hollywood.
  24. Boricello
    Boricello 21 June 2013 20: 00 New
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    Well, as soon as it comes to Syria or the promised land, the Professor is right there. wink And again he managed to hait right and left wink And again, it says that Israel here is not a dream or a spirit.
    1. Professor
      Professor 21 June 2013 20: 48 New
      0
      Quote: Boricello
      Well, as soon as it comes to Syria or the promised land, the Professor is right there.

      Well, at least I have the Israeli flag, but how did you get here? winked
  25. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 21 June 2013 20: 08 New
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    This is the result of the mediocre policy of the Russian Federation to sell weapons to everyone who asks. Self-interest has never led to good. And it can still be when our armed forces will suffer damage from our own weapons. After all, it doesn’t matter to our government what to sell: tanks, ptsurs, helicopters, planes or submarines. Myself not, but somewhere, just like that. Shame !!!
  26. Boricello
    Boricello 21 June 2013 20: 22 New
    -1
    Quote: Evgeniy667b
    This is the result of the mediocre policy of the Russian Federation to sell weapons to everyone who asks. Self-interest has never led to good. And it can still be when our armed forces will suffer damage from our own weapons. After all, it doesn’t matter to our government what to sell: tanks, ptsurs, helicopters, planes or submarines. Myself not, but somewhere, just like that. Shame !!!

    You, my friend, what birch tree collapsed from? What does the mediocre sales policy have to do with it? A striped do not sell right and left? and then it doesn’t fly back to them? Nonsense. Weapons can come from any direction. And since geyroppa and Sysha got ... in this region, it’s just oh. In principle, in this region there has always been a priority of Soviet (Russian) light weapons, for the price-quality-reliability ratio is the best. And with weapons now they will be all the same ... Egypt (I will stop Russia from knowing that the United States will arrange a revolution there?), Etc. etc. Judging by your words, you don’t need to sell to anyone at all. And if it’s easier to look, what difference does the Allahakbar, Russian, American or Israeli have to shoot? This does not change anything. There is a decision to arm militants, and Westerners also know how to count money. They outbid stolen and deliver to militants.
  27. Fofan
    Fofan 21 June 2013 20: 23 New
    0
    so competition or competition? these are two big differences!
  28. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 21 June 2013 20: 52 New
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    Dear Boricello, it’s not Russia that has competitors in sales. They equipped their army and navy in the first place, and the Russian Federation with bare w ... there too. First to yourself, and then somewhere, this is right.
  29. Boricello
    Boricello 21 June 2013 21: 27 New
    -1
    Quote: Professor
    Well, at least I have the Israeli flag, but how did you get here? winked

    And though I live in Kazakhstan, both by nation and spirit RUSSIAN !!! and if you, Mr. Comrade Barin, would have known at least a little history, then such questions were not asked. For reference ... a lot of intellectuals from the USSR sent Pts especially gifted from the 30s to Kazakhstan. Then the fists went, then the evacuated. And in 60 Komsomol construction sites there was a virgin land raising. It was not made by the Kazakhs either. Back in the years 60-70, former teachers of Moscow State University and other universities taught at Karaganda schools. My grandfathers fought for this country. By the will of fate, I was born in Kazakhstan, although my mother was from Pomors, and my father was born in the Gorky region. So do not tell me where I am from. I talk with my fellow tribesmen and soul mates, but your sly face is from where I don’t understand.
    1. Professor
      Professor 21 June 2013 21: 37 New
      0
      Quote: Boricello
      And though I live in Kazakhstan as well as by nation and spirit RUSSIAN !!!

      Glad for you, that's just everything written to Syria, what does it have to do with it?

      Quote: Boricello
      I talk with my fellow tribesmen and soul mates, but your sly face is from where I don’t understand.

      And what tribe taught you to be rude to adults?
    2. atalef
      atalef 21 June 2013 21: 49 New
      -2
      Quote: Boricello
      And though I live in Kazakhstan, I am RUSSIAN !!

      And? Monument is not man-made to put? My wife lives in Israel, and according to the nation - Ukrainian laughing

      Quote: Boricello
      For reference ... a lot of intellectuals from the USSR sent Pts especially gifted from the 30s to Kazakhstan.

      And what do you have to do with this? In general, on children of geniuses, nature breathes, you are already at least 3 generations from rested

      Quote: Boricello
      .Am destiny I was born in Kazakhstan

      Needed where was born

      Quote: Boricello
      but your sly erysipelas is from where I don’t understand.

      Intellectuals say wassat
  30. vpo3000zm
    vpo3000zm 21 June 2013 21: 43 New
    0
    as it flew in a zigzag
    Quote: Cynic
    Quote: Professor
    hands grow out of ... and no brains

    Or staging.
    hi
  31. Boricello
    Boricello 21 June 2013 21: 45 New
    0
    Quote: Professor
    And what tribe taught you to be rude to adults?

    And how many sir do you grow up? wink
    1. Professor
      Professor 21 June 2013 21: 56 New
      0
      Quote: Boricello
      And how many sir do you grow up?

      Is your tribe rude only to those who are many adults?
  32. Boricello
    Boricello 21 June 2013 21: 51 New
    -2
    Quote: Professor
    Glad for you, that's just everything written to Syria, what does it have to do with it?

    And such an attitude that only a full one can believe that if Syria and Assad lose, it will stop. Then it will go further and it will touch me and my family directly. One option to undermine Russia is to act through central Asia. And I have already said that Turkey’s position in Kazakhstan has been very strong lately. And shaking Kazakhstan is not so difficult, remembering the events in Kyrgyzstan. Salophytes walk quietly in the streets in our short pants. Afghanistan is also not far, so Kazakhstan is a very good target.
    1. atalef
      atalef 21 June 2013 22: 07 New
      -1
      Quote: Boricello
      And such an attitude that only a full one can believe that if Syria and Assad lose, it will stop. Then it will go further and it will touch me and my family directly.

      In Rwanda, over 7 tons of Hutu were put in Tutu for 700 months (or vice versa), didn’t you bother? By the way, Kazakhstan has 5 tons or more. And to Israel, well, a few, and I don’t know if these bandits know. what is Kazakhstan, but what is Israel they know 100%. and why all this bothers you much more than us, you
      Delirium of persecution (persecution mania) - a mental disorder, the sufferer of which is unreasonably convinced that a certain person or group of persons is persecuting him: spies, torments, scoffs, plans to inflict harm, rob or kill. The persecutors may be neighbors, colleagues, a secret organization, government, etc.

      Quote: Boricello
      One option to undermine Russia is to act through central Asia

      And only your muscular body is a barrier and supports Russia from loosening

      Quote: Boricello
      And I have already said that Turkey’s position in Kazakhstan has been very strong lately. And shaking Kazakhstan is not so difficult, remembering the events in Kyrgyzstan.

      ????????
      Quote: Boricello
      Salophytes walk quietly in the streets in our short pants.

      I can absolutely absolutely responsibly declare that Salafis do not go in short pants.
      There is a corresponding article of the Criminal Code for spying and prosecuting people walking in short pants. laughing
  33. Boricello
    Boricello 21 June 2013 22: 10 New
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Boricello
    And how many sir do you grow up?

    Is your tribe rude only to those who are many adults?

    Well, do you think that they insulted me or somehow touched me with your statement? .. You insulted yourself more and showed your essence as a petty provocateur and dirty trick. I have something to be proud of both my people and my history. And by the fact that your people live and live the great merit of my country and my people. Keep this in mind and do not forget. And so it turns out that you are the most ungrateful nation that sees nothing further than its nose.
    1. Professor
      Professor 21 June 2013 22: 18 New
      +1
      Young man, I was not going to insult either you or your tribe — when it is necessary I use the experience gained in the USSR Navy and it will not seem enough. I am trying to discuss anti-tank systems here, and not to solve the global problems of mankind.
  34. Boricello
    Boricello 21 June 2013 22: 24 New
    -2
    Quote: atalef
    I can absolutely absolutely responsibly declare that Salafis do not go in short pants.

    Well Duc come to us and see. Our mister YELBASY legally allowed the Salofits on the territory of Kazakhstan (though recently he changed his mind, but it's too late, the KNB and the police exploded). And in our country they wear short pants, so there is no need to say to shift your realities to other regions. And what does my "muscular" body have to do with it? It was muscular when I served in the Far East at the outpost. And I'm not saying that Israel will not be affected. And about Turkey ????????. We have already had scandals about the support of the Salofi movements by Turkey and very quickly hushed up.
    "" On the eve of the withdrawal of American military units, Barack Obama assured the President of Kazakhstan that the United States will remain deeply involved in the affairs of Afghanistan and the entire region. He stressed that our states have a common interest in providing opportunities for the prosperity of the people of Afghanistan, as well as in ensuring that destructive forces can never again find refuge in this country, "the press service said. Such attention is already scary in itself. This is the embrace of a boa constrictor that strangles its victim.
    1. atalef
      atalef 22 June 2013 08: 48 New
      +4
      Quote: Boricello
      Our Mr. ELBASY legally authorized the salophytes in Kazakhstan

      Salafis - at least learn to write correctly, otherwise Salofit (L) S maybe it's fat lovers? Therefore, in short pants?
  35. shush007
    shush007 22 June 2013 14: 29 New
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    scary weapon
  36. datur
    datur 22 June 2013 15: 36 New
    0
    250 poo freaks, you need to wet them quickly !!!! to not be able to use gifts from LIVIA !!!!
  37. maestro123
    maestro123 22 June 2013 16: 33 New
    0
    To conduct hostilities in the city, a new type of tank is needed, even if it will be more expensive, but safer and more effective in a small amount with a support group.
  38. datur
    datur 22 June 2013 16: 52 New
    0
    need spirits to be wet-fast !!
  39. uizik
    uizik 22 June 2013 17: 22 New
    0
    Not from the arsenals and warehouses of Russia, which regularly burn and explode, weapons appear in militants in Syria?
  40. 7ydmco
    7ydmco 23 June 2013 00: 25 New
    0
    Libya, as a country of victorious democracy, through its "parents" shares the subjects of democratization with still sovereign countries, what's surprising?
    Another thing is interesting, how are Israeli-made weapons and electronic intelligence (combat) means found in cannibals in Syria? Can Jews support terrorist groups? Ay-ah-ah-ah :)
    1. Professor
      Professor 23 June 2013 07: 42 New
      -1
      Quote: 7ydmco
      Another thing is interesting, how are Israeli-made weapons and electronic intelligence (combat) means found in cannibals in Syria?

      ... do not roll bags. And where is this invisible Israeli-made weapon and means of electronic intelligence (warfare)? Is this one-off lightning mine an "Israeli-made weapon"? wink
      1. 7ydmco
        7ydmco 23 June 2013 09: 31 New
        0
        That bags do not toss it to the point, and about the expression about the log in your eye, you also do not forget :)
        Catch about cannibals about Israeli weapons:

        http://anna-news.info/node/9557

        http://globalconflict.ru/conflicts/24123-v-sirijskom-kusejre-u-boevikov-najdeno-


        izrailskoe-oruzhie

        http://www.military-informant.com/index.php/conflicts/2672-syria-israeli-made-we


        apon.html # .UcZ-DlmGidI

        http://rublogers.ru/2013/05/26/izrailskie-voennye-tayno-voyuyut-vmeste-s-boevika


        mi-v-sirii.html Jewish jeep with electronic intelligence.

        1. Professor
          Professor 23 June 2013 13: 54 New
          -2
          Quote: 7ydmco
          Catch about cannibals about Israeli weapons:

          I caught the weapons there just did not really make out:
          1. http://anna-news.info/node/9557

          With knowledge of the materiel they have poorly, Lau grenade launchers have never been made in Israel. fool

          2. http://globalconflict.ru/conflicts/24123-v-sirijskom-kusejre-u-boevikov-najdeno-
          izrailskoe-oruzhie
          Source: www.rosbalt.ru this is the one that reported that in Gaza they shot down the F-16 and the crew was captured. laughing I am still waiting for photos confirming these conjectures. There are only words in your note ...

          3.
          Quote: 7ydmco
          http://rublogers.ru/2013/05/26/izrailskie-voennye-tayno-voyuyut-vmeste-s-boevika
          mi-v-sirii.html Jewish jeep with electronic intelligence.

          The report said that a military uniform was found inside the car, as well as equipment for radio interception and interference, but it was not shown in the frame.
          Of course not shown. How can one show that which does not exist. An old jeep thrown in Lebanon is not impressive. with electronic intelligence laughing

          4.
          http://www.military-informant.com/index.php/conflicts/2672-syria-israeli-made-we
          apon.html # .UcbADflTRch

          I already remembered about this single illuminating mine. Specialists from Anna News smiled, saying that it contained poisonous substances - it was not necessary to eat it. wassat

          They also showed Israeli-made noodles and toilet paper. laughing
  41. 7ydmco
    7ydmco 23 June 2013 18: 02 New
    +2
    I think that Musina from Anna News, who has been practically at the forefront in Syria for a long time, has little faith :) more than an Internet commentator, even a professional one like you. Yes, and according to Israeli news, - Israeli-made Lau anti-tank missiles were found in Damascus. As we see, they still do not agree with your statement that Lau is not produced in Israel. http://www.isra.com/news/162898
    The fact that the Israeli jeep of Syrian cannibals lacked equipment with electronic intelligence equipment is just your baseless speculation, nothing more. Interestingly, does the Jewish army often throw their jeeps? :)
    1. Professor
      Professor 23 June 2013 20: 56 New
      0
      Quote: 7ydmco
      I think that Musina from Anna News, who has been practically at the forefront in Syria for a long time, has little faith :) more than an Internet commentator, even a professional one like you.

      Lau made in Israel? Learn the materiel!

      Yes, and according to Israeli news, - Israeli-made Lau anti-tank missiles were found in Damascus. As we see, they still do not agree with your statement that Lau is not produced in Israel. http://www.isra.com/news/162898

      We read this "interesting" news: "The Syrian media report that a truck loaded with Israeli-made ammunition has been seized by Assad's army in Damascus. Among the seized dozen Lau anti-tank missiles, as well as artillery shells and explosive devices." Syrian The media is reporting, understand? Musin and the Syrian media. fool

      Quote: 7ydmco
      The fact that the Israeli jeep of Syrian cannibals lacked equipment with electronic intelligence equipment is just your baseless speculation, nothing more.

      There were still little Martians, prove that they were not there. wassat The speculation is in the Syrian media which apart from the empty old jeep did not show anything. They would also say that there was an atomic bomb.

      Quote: 7ydmco
      Interestingly, does the Jewish army often throw their jeeps? :)

      What kind of "Jewish" army is this? King David or what? Duc then there were no jeeps. wink
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 23 June 2013 21: 15 New
        +2
        Quote: Professor
        . "The Syrian media are reporting, you know? Musin and the Syrian media.

        Do you refer to Israeli sources, understand?
        Quote: Professor
        What kind of "Jewish" army is this?

        Especially for you _ Tzahal.
        Actually, such an impression, there was a change of guard and under the nickname Professoranother person answers. It hurts flat and stupid, forgetting what has already been agreed upon, clarified.
  42. Lechik2000
    Lechik2000 23 June 2013 21: 15 New
    0
    All Jews whom I know or former or current employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation ...
    You (Prof. Alalef, Igor) are more likely to feel all the trouble that awaits you after the victory of the Islamists in Syria (and this will happen if the Yankees and their six begin to deliver weapons) ...
  43. volkodav
    volkodav 24 June 2013 03: 50 New
    0
    Yes, they are all smeared in one world (Arabs, Jews) let them cherish each other and money in a mug. which is said to be our easier, and poher what weapon of yours, the most important thing to reduce the people of the population successfully solved
    1. 7ydmco
      7ydmco 25 June 2013 18: 57 New
      0
      With this position, and we can easily be counted among their gang. smile
  44. Rinatgoi
    Rinatgoi 25 June 2013 14: 54 New
    0
    All praise be to Allah! O Most High Allah sent down more weapons to the Muslims of Syria. Strengthen their feet. Amine
  45. 7ydmco
    7ydmco 25 June 2013 18: 42 New
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    Lau made in Israel? Learn the materiel!


    I have no idea whether these grenade launchers were manufactured in Israel, whether they were assembled there, or they simply stood in service, since they are not such a grandiose specialist as you :) But once again I will say, to my eyes and Musin, I somehow trust more than a fiery fighter for democracy in Jewish.
    Catch another link http://mikhail-t.livejournal.com/35388.html a plate with Jewish inscriptions on the (naturally not made in Israel) LAU grenade launcher :)

    We read this "interesting" news: "The Syrian media reported that in Damascus, Assad's army seized a truck loaded with Israeli-made ammunition. Among the confiscated dozen Lau anti-tank missiles, as well as artillery shells and explosive devices." Syrian media are reporting, do you understand? Musin and the Syrian media.!


    You know, but I read it :), for some reason I thought that the Israeli news would not reprint crazy (in your opinion) news from the Syrian media. Oh, how bad you think about the Jewish media :)
    1. Professor
      Professor 25 June 2013 21: 46 New
      -2
      Quote: 7ydmco
      Catch another link http://mikhail-t.livejournal.com/35388.html a plate with Jewish inscriptions on the (naturally not made in Israel) LAU grenade launcher :)

      I cried when I saw this stubborn grenade launcher of the 1970 model year. laughing There still Israeli T-55 remained at the Hezbollah, Musin did not notice them? I’m waiting from Musin for a photo of Spikes or, at worst, Matadorov. He also showed toilet paper with inscriptions in Hebrew ...

      PS
      I struck your photo. It generally refers to Islamic jihad in Gaza. Hello to Musin.
      Islamic Jihad seizes IDF rocket, hotdogs
      1. 7ydmco
        7ydmco 26 June 2013 22: 53 New
        0
        Someone seems to have lost a little thread of dispute smile . Let me remind you that you claimed that this grenade launcher was not manufactured (was not assembled, was not in service) in Israel, to which I provided a link to a photograph of this grenade launcher with Jewish inscriptions on it. After which you say that he is the 70th year of release and say hello to Musin smile . Does this prove your point? or do you just get paid for the number of words? smile
        And where did you see the year of its release?
        1. Professor
          Professor 27 June 2013 07: 38 New
          0
          Quote: 7ydmco
          It seems that someone has a little lost the thread of the dispute. Let me remind you that you claimed that this grenade launcher was not manufactured (was not assembled, was not in service) in Israel, to which I provided a link to a photograph of this grenade launcher with Jewish inscriptions on it.

          You really lost a thread. I never claimed that Lau was not in service with the IDF; it was never produced in Israel, as Musin claims. The photo you showed was taken by the military wing of the Islamic Jihad in Khan Younes in Gaza and has nothing to do with Syria, at least for now. In the photo, the Lau trophy grenade launcher captured / found by them and previously owned by the IDF.

          Quote: 7ydmco
          After which you say that he is of the 70th year of release and say hello to Musin. Does this prove your point?

          Lau has never been made in Israel and in AOI is already a rarity. Musin is lying.

          Quote: 7ydmco
          or do you just get paid for the number of words?

          For the number of characters. wink

          Quote: 7ydmco
          And where did you see the year of its release?

          At the beginning of the 80's, Lau was discontinued and replaced by the Swedish M136 AT4. The peak of Lau's production came at the end of the 60's, the beginning of the 70's ...
          1. 7ydmco
            7ydmco 30 June 2013 23: 52 New
            -1
            Well naturally I who else could be smile
            Well, you see, it turns out Lau was in the arsenal of the Jewish army, already good smile
            I repeat, that photo showed that LAU’s relevance to the Jewish army was nothing more.
            1. Professor
              Professor 1 July 2013 10: 10 New
              0
              Quote: 7ydmco
              Well, you see, it turns out Lau was in the arsenal of the Jewish army, already good

              Firstly, not Jewish, but Israeli, and secondly, it justifies Musin's lies.

              Quote: 7ydmco
              I repeat, that photo showed that LAU’s relevance to the Jewish army was nothing more.

              Bring immediately photos of everything that was in service with the Israeli army, including AK. This is not the case, but you can patrol it.
  46. 7ydmco
    7ydmco 25 June 2013 18: 52 New
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    There were still little Martians, prove that they were not there. The speculation is in the Syrian media which apart from the empty old jeep did not show anything. They would also say that there was an atomic bomb.


    Are you sure that I have to prove something to you? Try to justify in scientific circles the reality of your little Martians, they think they settle in the head of people who baselessly remember them smile in any case, the science of them does not know anything.
  47. 7ydmco
    7ydmco 25 June 2013 18: 55 New
    0
    Quote: Professor
    What kind of "Jewish" army is this? King David or what? Duc then there were no jeeps.


    Mostly Jews live in Israel, when Jews gather in armed crowds, I consider it reasonable to call them the Jewish army. Do you disagree? smile