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Northern Ireland: Obama with a harem against Putin

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Finally, the meeting of the Russian and American presidents took place, the significance of which has been discussed so much lately. The meeting place was the Northern Irish resort called Lough Erne, where the G8 summit takes place. Prior to the Northern Ireland meeting, Putin and Obama preferred to communicate in the epistolary genre, sending delegates to each other, who commented on the content of the presidents ’letters.




Romance from politics and other naturally naive people expected a breakthrough from the meeting of the Russian and American leaders. Perhaps someone in his imagination painted pictures of Obama once again pulling out a red button from under the table, on which there will be another twisting of the word “RELOADING”, and will offer Putin to press and wait for the result. However, no buttons were presented at the summit from Obama, and to expect a reboot after all the latest events in the world, including Snowden’s revelations, accusations of supporting Assad’s “bloodthirsty regime” and allegations of Russian indulgence of receiving nuclear weapons. weapon Iran did not have to.

In recent years, all these G-8 summits (G-20, Hundred and other nouns expressing numerical values) all turned into not a platform for solving urgent problems, but a sort of harem where all wives should serve their only master properly completely satisfied ...

In most cases, such summits are held as regular attempts to demonstrate to the whole world how Russia and, for example, China do not wish to be imbued with the “progressive democratic ideas” of the Western world. They say, just look at them: well, how dark and backward they are - the whole world understands that Assad is a hangman, a tyrant, a barbarian and a cannibal, and Russia and China do not understand, and to understand because of their natural anti-democratic poverty can And if at the G-20, for example, we (Russia) have at least some support: the same China usually votes in sync, India can lend a shoulder, then Putin had to speak alone at the Eight. Why? Yes, because neither China nor India is in the Big Eight. Apparently, they are not so “Big”, in the opinion of, for example, the Italians, the French, or the Japanese with the Germans, who fill G8 with themselves ... Where can modern China go to Italy ...

In general, in Northern Ireland, the essence of the summit has been reduced to once again trying to put pressure on Russia in order to get free access to the administration of the well-known policy regarding the resolution of the Syrian conflict, to check the strength of the harem. Apparently, they thought: there is no China, which means that Russia will be more compliant with us. But Putin obviously didn’t want to be a “wife from the harem” and knew perfectly well what awaits him in Lough Erne, and therefore was ready to oppose the position that the representatives of the other seven delegations unanimously voiced regarding the same Syria. He was ready for another spit of Western journalists, who, with obvious disregard for professional ethics, asked the question and managed to accuse Russia of allegedly holding the blood of Syrian children, because Putin supports the Assad regime. This, apparently, in the West is now such a new fashionable trend: politicians are supposedly being excluded from the direct comments of the position of politicians and interlocutors, and give the task such comments, veiled by questions, to make to their journalists. Like, let us, gentlemen from the BBC, fuck him! Make it so that Putin had to look for words for an answer — suppose the world sees what it means to stand on the “evil” side, and we will stand here on the sidelines, smile.
But I didn’t have to look for words, because we all are well-known to all hissing on a fairly hackneyed western disc. They are Putin - about the blood of babies, and Putin to them - about cannibals from the Syrian opposition, devouring human hearts. In general, there were quits, remained with their opinions. The harem became agitated and more than ever clung to his master ...

Not shed any light on the solution of the Syrian conflict and the full-time Russian-American meeting. For two hours, Putin and Obama discussed how to compare hours regarding the Syrian situation, how to work in terms of cooperation to provide assurances about the nondirection of nuclear potentials, how to find common ground in global geopolitics, but nothing intelligible from this two-hour rendezvous did not work out. Yes, and could not get out. Well, really we really had to believe that almost 2,5, the positions on Syria and Assad in Russia and the United States were mutually opposed, and then suddenly - bang, they would sit down, talk and everything will come together ... They sat down, talked, shivered boots - still did not converge.



Can this “non-coincidence” of positions be blamed on Putin? Yes, anyone, not him. The very figure of the Russian president can be treated as you please, this is a personal matter and the right of everyone. You can hate him, you can admire him, making an effort, you can not notice at all, but the seemingly ordinary and passing G8 summit in Northern Ireland makes one important fact to understand: Putin replays the rest of G8.

And this is by the way that Russia today is weaker than ever, that everyone is feeling spit on Russia today, that Russia's opinion in the rest of the world, excuse me, is all on the drum. But no, it does not work "on the drum." After all, if the same Obama-Cameron-Merkel-other way didn’t give a damn about Putin’s opinion and Russia's position, then NATO bombers would have been circling the Syrian sky long ago, and President Bashar Asad could well repeat the fate of Muammar Gaddafi or Saddam Hussein. But 2,5 of the West (here you can add other adherents of the all-consuming democratization) can’t get to the Syrian flesh, pinching fingers on the thorny Russian political defense of legitimate Syrian power. 2,5 of the year, the Russian position on Syria remains unchanged: calm, solid, without too much husk, with a clear logic of action. This is annoying “G8-1”, but “G8-1” cannot do anything openly. And if it cannot, then it is taking a beloved path: on the sly, with the involvement of massive media shelling and opportunities to reach the puppet pseudo-opposition through third countries.

In some ways, our positions do not coincide yet, but we are united in the desire to stop the violence, stop the increase in the number of victims in Syria, solve the problem by peaceful means, including through the negotiations in Geneva - this is Putin.
However, we have a common interest to put an end to the violence that is taking place, as well as the interest in securing chemical weapons that may be in Syria - this is Obama.
As you can see, the presidents think about each of their own. Putin sees ways out of the Syrian crisis in full-fledged negotiations - negotiations that should take place in a real multilateral version, and not in the form of a narrow small party. At the same time, Obama will want to worry about how to "secure chemical weapons." According to all the laws of modern political psychology, if a high-ranking official from the United States (especially the president) begins to use the words "chemical weapons", it means that he feels that all other arguments have ended. Well, it's like in a dispute between two people with opposing views to use the last trump card in the form of “you are a fool!” Or “and who are you ?!”

Barack Hussein Obama, but after all, to secure chemical weapons in Syria is simpler than a pair of turnips: you don’t need to put it there yourself — once, and you don’t need to let your harem do it — it's two. That's the whole problem ...

In general, the summit, according to the tradition that has developed in recent years, has become another series of the soap opera “Ulomai Vladimir”, but only Vladimir continues to prove that he is not fragile ...

And in September we are expected to continue - a new personal meeting between Putin and Obama is already in Russia. The results, or rather their absence, can be predicted today ...
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  1. Andrew 121
    Andrew 121 19 June 2013 09: 18 New
    65
    "Ulomay Vladimir" - bullyHe’s a judoka. How can you break him ?!
    1. krasin
      krasin 19 June 2013 09: 29 New
      26
      Russia and, for example, China do not want to be imbued with “progressive democratic ideas”

      Well now let’s penetrate. Only pull up my pants!
      1. cartridge
        cartridge 19 June 2013 10: 34 New
        37
        and the Eight Putin had to perform alone. Why? Yes, because neither China nor India are members of the G8. Apparently, they are not “Big”, according to, for example, Italians, French, or Japanese with Germans, who fill the GXNUMX with themselves ... Where is China today before Italy ...


        I repeat my point of view:
        No need to cling to G8 member status!
        China does not enter there, but this does not prevent it from being truly Great!
        We must build our policies with the benefit for our country, and not for the sake of some pro-American six of the anti-Russian seven!
        1. alexdol
          alexdol 19 June 2013 12: 07 New
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          cartridge (1) SU "Do not cling to the status of a member of the G8! ... We must build our policies with the benefit of our country, ..."
          -------------------------------------------------
          Absolutely right! All conversations with Westerners are nothing! The UN has also become obsolete today, it is also the Amer’s “six”, and therefore it is high time to quit all these UNs, etc. And pursue your POLICY! And let the west then try to "negotiate" with us! And our best democratic argument should be the comprehensive strengthening of the ARMY, AVIATION and NAVY!
        2. radio operator
          radio operator 20 June 2013 15: 11 New
          +5
          Quote: cartridge
          We must build our policies with the benefit for our country, and not for the sake of some pro-American six of the anti-Russian seven!

          Right! We do not need their democratic values
          1. sanych your division
            sanych your division 20 June 2013 21: 27 New
            +4
            I would, on the spot of the photographer, help both of the scissors and check once again the conclusions of Newton. true hands need to be pro-authenticated do not forget
          2. Imigrantt
            Imigrantt 21 June 2013 11: 51 New
            +4
            I absolutely agree, the history of Russia was rewritten in its own way, and now with its pseudo democracy they climb everywhere - where the muck is thrust everywhere! But after all, Russia is no longer the same, not Yeltsin, it will not live under dictation! Vladimir needs to carry out Asi-Burai and "gently" switch to Sime-Waza, and all this with Kiaratei, and we Rusichi will support him in this! We will test tameshivari on the "democrats" !!!
          3. My doctor
            My doctor 23 June 2013 21: 33 New
            0
            I didn’t understand at once, Brezhnev thought with the next guest. )))
        3. Very old
          Very old 22 June 2013 11: 09 New
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          In-in, it is better to hold on to YOURSELF (Vanya, no offense to this) .100% for. You +++
      2. Horn
        Horn 19 June 2013 11: 06 New
        +8
        You don’t think anything! In order to "penetrate", one must not pull up, but lower his pants ...
        1. 101
          101 19 June 2013 19: 27 New
          +5
          Quote: Horn
          In order to "penetrate", one must not pull up, but lower his pants ...

          How confusing they are. And from childhood we were taught sleeves rolled up our pants and pulled them forward. They are unclear. Something is clear.
    2. sevtrash
      sevtrash 19 June 2013 09: 42 New
      -29
      For them, in fact, this is not fundamental - the consent of Russia. However, like China. If they want, they will arrange a no-fly zone. They just haven’t decided yet. And they will arrange the occasion themselves, or the rebels will help. And the right journalists will arrange a public brainwashing. Who is strong is right.
      1. neri73-r
        neri73-r 19 June 2013 10: 00 New
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        Are they strong in reality, but are ready to die (I'm not talking about killing, are they ready for this)?
        1. axay032
          axay032 19 June 2013 12: 20 New
          +8
          Yes, it’s for sure they are not ready to die and do not want, unlike the Syrian People. !!!
      2. Cynic
        Cynic 19 June 2013 10: 03 New
        +5
        Quote: sevtrash
        They just haven’t decided yet

        This is with us
        We will not stand for the price
        Everything is considered there, as long as losses exceed dividends.
        Yes, and by and large hunting Yusovtsy fit perfectly for Qatar and others like them? To help with the observance of their own benefits is yes, but to fight ...
        Syria does not have such assets abroad as Libya, that’s the way it is.
        bully
      3. Oleg14774
        Oleg14774 19 June 2013 10: 04 New
        +7
        Quote: sevtrash
        For them, in fact, this is not fundamental - the consent of Russia. However, like China. If they want, they will arrange a no-fly zone. They just haven’t decided yet.

        In my opinion, you yourself answered your doubt. I got it, because they didn’t arrange it for 2,5 years already. It means they are afraid of something, and what none of us ordinary visitors of the site know! So you can guess for a long time, and the result is on the face!
        1. sevtrash
          sevtrash 19 June 2013 15: 13 New
          -3
          Busy, who than. Afghanistan, Libya. And then, they delivered and paid for the opposition rebels. This is cheaper than fighting many times over. To fight is very expensive, that's why they do not dare. And if they decide - they agree with Russia, China absolutely needs it. All the same, the media is turned the way they want.
      4. Denis_SF
        Denis_SF 19 June 2013 10: 13 New
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        Tanned merged! Bush said: “Do not look into the eyes!” I could not stand it, looked into the eyes of the Darkest, and merged ..
        The United States now needs to save its lackeys, the Arab monarchs, to quote: “The situation in Saudi Arabia is moving towards a social and political explosion, as the armed rebels of Takfiri are returning home from Syria, where they suffered huge losses, defeats and setbacks, media warned on Saturday. Sources claim that the violence is likely to return to Saudi Arabia, aimed at state and Western interests, because the victory of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad against terrorists will force them to leave Syria for other countries in the region, including Saudi Arabia, which will one of the first for terrorists returning to countries they come from. " Rather, the Saudis (traitors of Islam, corrupt mongrels) with capitalists will break their teeth about Assad, and even their jaw will help Iran and Russia break.
        There is also Qatar, which is also against Syria, but here it is all about oil. The French are on the Qatari pipe. If Assad persists, a mess will begin in Qatar, again Sunnis vs Shiites. To the Germans, the Qatari pipe to the lantern, in principle, has its own! Therefore, they don’t want to deliver weapons, they sing along rather by inertia and so that the big boss doesn’t get angry. Saudi Amer and Qatar are “cutting”, they are now even worse off in Syria than they were tortured by them at the very beginning of the “Arap spring,” and therefore they want to do the operation “You use chemical weapons - then we fly to you!”, Like Iraqi bottles at a UN meeting.
        In general, if Assad can stand it, and everything goes precisely to that, it will be the first strategic defeat of the USA in 20 years! This is like Stalingrad for Hitler.
        1. mnn_13
          mnn_13 19 June 2013 13: 04 New
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          Dear Denis,
          Boyus that things are much deeper than holding Syria Assad, Russia and Iran or not. Now it’s quite clear that the fall of Syria will mean a world war. If West and Israel really want to destroy Syria, then Syrian geography is such that it will be. The question here is only on money and resources and who on what and whom will lay. Another question is that this victory will be a feast and that it can provoke a chain of events that will forever end the Anglo-Saxon domination of the world.
          Here I recall Vanga’s answer at the beginning of 90x to the question when there will be a third world war. She replied: "It’s too early! Syria has not fallen yet ..." Who in these years could have thought of some kind of Syrian fall?
          1. vostok68
            vostok68 19 June 2013 14: 23 New
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            Quote: mnn_13
            Dear Denis,
            Boyus that things are much deeper than holding Syria Assad, Russia and Iran or not. Now it’s quite clear that the fall of Syria will mean a world war. If West and Israel really want to destroy Syria, then Syrian geography is such that it will be. The question here is only on money and resources and who on what and whom will lay. Another question is that this victory will be a feast and that it can provoke a chain of events that will forever end the Anglo-Saxon domination of the world.
            Here I recall Vanga’s answer at the beginning of 90x to the question when there will be a third world war. She replied: "It’s too early! Syria has not fallen yet ..." Who in these years could have thought of some kind of Syrian fall?

            I agree with you, interestingly and correctly you said everything!
          2. Cynic
            Cynic 19 June 2013 14: 53 New
            +6
            Quote: mnn_13
            Now it’s quite clear that the fall of Syria will mean a world war.

            Don’t be afraid!
            Here more than an interesting picture is drawn!
            If you look at the Syrian region, then all of its opponents suddenly began to draw not childish problems!
            Domestic!
            And no matter how they are now up to the defense of democracy in another country!
            It is still noisy, but it is more likely by inertia. Home began to bake.
            Matches? May be !
            But
            Coincidences are exactly the thing that is planned most strictly.

            bully
            1. mnn_13
              mnn_13 19 June 2013 16: 43 New
              0
              I do not believe it, but I hope that you will be right.
              Look at this photo, it reinforces your thesis. It seems to me that these two shoschivchiks missed that ...
            2. mnn_13
              mnn_13 19 June 2013 18: 32 New
              +4
              I had in mind this photo ...
              1. Onotollah
                Onotollah 20 June 2013 05: 28 New
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                Quote: mnn_13
                I had in mind this photo ...

                Something to Rzhunimagu11
                Putin sarcastically: "Bitter !!"
        2. Nightmare12
          Nightmare12 19 June 2013 16: 36 New
          +5
          Apparently the prophecy of Nostradamus and Wangs begin to come true
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 20 June 2013 12: 19 New
            +1
            Quote: Nightmare12
            the prophecies of Nostradamus and Wanga begin to come true

            How is there Volfovich grilled about the fight against bird flu _ The entire male population of Russia with guns at the borders and shoot ?!
            As if under new conditions, this slogan has not changed to _ The entire male population of Russia with guns to the borders and shoot!
            bully
          2. baboon
            baboon 21 June 2013 09: 19 New
            -1
            By the way, I remember how Vanga prophesied Russia a strong leader
      5. aviator_IAS
        aviator_IAS 19 June 2013 11: 14 New
        +6
        Quote: sevtrash
        And the right journalists will arrange a public brainwashing. Who is strong is right.


        And now the West no longer has a monopoly on truth and information. Russia has greatly strengthened its position in the information field. So we'll see who else will take it. And brainwashing is easier for those who have this substance in short supply. I don’t think that there are such majority. And the answer to blatant lies will be the search for truthful information. Nowadays it’s hard to hide something. Assange and Snowden will confirm.
        1. sevtrash
          sevtrash 19 June 2013 15: 28 New
          -1
          In order to get to the bottom you need to sit on the Internet, think, in general, work. Do you think this is interesting to many? For the vast majority, the most accessible sources are enough, and indeed Syria or other international problems are a light bulb. What the commentator puts into his head and okay.
      6. Ustas
        Ustas 19 June 2013 11: 40 New
        +4
        Quote: sevtrash
        They just haven’t decided yet.

        And how to decide that? The point is not iron, suddenly ... the line will fly. Russia she is so unpredictable.
        1. sevtrash
          sevtrash 19 June 2013 15: 33 New
          -1
          Already something, and this is hardly likely to be feared - it is extremely unlikely that Russia will be able to do anything. Is that to squeeze logistics in Afghanistan, stop providing seats in the "Union". Strongly spit on the United States and Europe for the sake of Syria is unprofitable. Yes, and the oligarchs with officials will not give, they have business, and real estate, and children in those parts.
          1. mnn_13
            mnn_13 19 June 2013 18: 50 New
            +2
            Dear sevtrash,
            The problem is not what Russia can do, but what the Anglo-Saxons do. In the last 20 years, they have become so insolent and have lost their sense of reality, they have forgotten so much about what international law, morality and justice are, that at this stage they cannot stop by themselves. It can only be stopped by a powerful fist in the face as was Vietnam for example.
            Their stop is not only the task of Russia but of the whole world.
            In this conflict, Russia is the passive side, only responding to aggressive actions (as was the case with Georgia, remember?). Russia has always mobilized after a major defeat. In my opinion, such a defeat will now be the loss of Syria, which will take place not without the participation of internal traitors at the highest level (nothing new for Russia ...). Hope you understand that with the capture of Syria, the appetite of the western jackals and their cannibal cannibals will only increase ...
            1. sevtrash
              sevtrash 19 June 2013 19: 25 New
              +2
              You see, mnn_13, apparently the world is so arranged that some countries live better than others, including at the expense of these same countries. They sell their goods more expensively; they buy a stranger cheaper. Actually, like people.
              It is unlikely that Machiaveli discovered the truth in his sovereign. The USA and NATO are systematically destroying their enemies, first the USSR, now disloyal Arabs, then China’s turn will come. Russia is also in this line, this is undoubtedly evident in statements and actions, despite their ostentatious peace.
              And Syria is a step towards Iran, the interests of the United States, NATO, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Israel converge here. Such is life - if not you, then you.
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      8. Nightmare12
        Nightmare12 19 June 2013 16: 29 New
        +2
        Strength is not in force but in truth!
      9. Good Ukraine
        Good Ukraine 19 June 2013 16: 47 New
        +3
        Quote: sevtrash
        For them, in fact, this is not fundamental - the consent of Russia. However, like China. If they want, they will arrange a no-fly zone


        Yeah! And they will get a second Vietnam.
        It’s just that over the past 20 years no one has “fit in” with the weak.
      10. silver_roman
        silver_roman 19 June 2013 18: 31 New
        +4
        if it were so simple, then Syria would have already taken a place next to Libya, and Assad from Gaddafi. Of course, we cannot know all the details, but the influence of the Russian Federation clearly plays an important role. Or do you think that our BOD carries potatoes there every week ??? that and the otmaza is excellent, very Western-style (glad that at last ours began to play by the same rules as they play against us): "We are fulfilling old contracts that were signed 100500 years ago." It’s just that amers are not used to accepting damage, they used to only do it!
      11. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 19 June 2013 19: 51 New
        +2
        Quote: sevtrash
        For them, in fact, this is not fundamental - the consent of Russia. However, like China. If they want, they will arrange a no-fly zone. They just haven’t decided yet. And they will arrange the occasion themselves, or the rebels will help. And the right journalists will arrange a public brainwashing. Who is strong is right.

        Yeah, 2,5 years, they simply didn’t make up their minds. "Indecisive which ones. When Russia merged Yugoslavia and Libya, they quickly resolved everything.
      12. F117
        F117 19 June 2013 20: 36 New
        0
        And also the 5th (Mediterranean) squadron of the Russian Navy, S-300, MiG-29 will help them. Who is strong is right. They somehow do not want to check this with the “advanced” West with Russia, for it will move them at the most ..., together with Syria and Iran.
      13. Simon
        Simon 19 June 2013 20: 41 New
        +1
        Ours will supply the Syrians with modern air defense systems and there will be no flight zone for all Amerian prostitutes.
    3. подводник
      подводник 19 June 2013 10: 10 New
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      But Vovchik nobly LOVED them at this summit ....
      I'm afraid that soon they (the leaders of the G-8 and other countries) will get used to this act of abuse by Vladimir Vladimirovich .... Once again he dunks them in the bastard!
      Well done Vovchik !!!
      Suddenly, with horror, I remembered the times when the EBN drank ...
      Thank God that Russia is now lucky with the Tsar.
      1. Oleg14774
        Oleg14774 19 June 2013 10: 59 New
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        Submariner, seven points on a five-point! All the words to the point!
    4. 755962
      755962 19 June 2013 10: 45 New
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    5. ughhh
      ughhh 19 June 2013 14: 00 New
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      Barack was uncomfortable ...
      1. KazaK Bo
        KazaK Bo 19 June 2013 18: 15 New
        +5
        Quote: ughhh
        Putin is replaying the rest of the G8.


        Butted seven on one! But the main one at this “bull” rodeo with his herd could not break our BISON! Strength has always been a powerful argument. Manifest it and others with respect begin to relate to the source of this power ... especially since our strength is in truth!
      2. Captain45
        Captain45 19 June 2013 21: 56 New
        +2
        Quote: ughhh
        Barack was uncomfortable ...

        Well, salab, chillimashka?
    6. vezunchik
      vezunchik 19 June 2013 14: 08 New
      +6
      interesting photos:
      - Well, Volodya, what can I do, I’m not guilty ....
      - And we like you, like this ... Well, sing, sing swallow ...
      1. afire
        afire 19 June 2013 15: 45 New
        +3
        And with all this grandeur, nothing is heard about ... China ...
        A very strange position of a Chinese ostrich, about which nothing has been heard for a long time.
        There is reason to believe that there is some kind of agreement on a strategy for pursuing a policy in the Bloc of East, that is, on the agreements of the Russian Federation and China, or the distribution of roles or something.
        There is still a position of authority, if China is silent (maybe that’s why su35 will go there), then all the laurels of human rights defenders will go to Russia with all the ensuing bonuses on that land after the war. Well, really, they started together, now they are alone, China is silent. There is also a plus for China, since the less it is visible, the less they are scammed into its affairs, and the bonuses from Russia for not sharing authority in the Syrian issue in the form of su35. Maybe this is the price, we don’t understand to the end, but maybe this is the only way to finally acquire a face and authority in the World for Russia. The price of su35 technologies, we will be honest, is much lower than our new t-50, which certainly will not leave China.
        1. sevtrash
          sevtrash 19 June 2013 16: 54 New
          -4
          China itself will do what is beneficial to it. And it is beneficial for him to be friends with Europe and the USA, since there are a lot of goods going there. Or maybe they found out that the decision on Syria was made, so that twitch. Especially - and for what? China has special interests there, probably not.
          And with technology, China will soon outperform everyone except the United States. In China, there are a lot of people, the level of education is growing, the quality is also there, and there is considerable money for education and research institutes. Is the result clear?
          1. silver_roman
            silver_roman 19 June 2013 20: 52 New
            +1
            the fact of the matter is that China is embarking on the path of a superpower, and as you know, the sphere of interests and influence of superpowers is not limited. Where you could not prove yourself, your opponent will show. It’s like chess, it’s almost never put a mat right away, for this there is geopolitics and in-depth analysis with forecasting!
            P.S. in terms of technology, China is still not so fast becoming a leader, if at all. Guessing is not grateful. Everything that China now possesses, namely the technical base, is copied. what can I say if they copied their political regime. But we need to make a reservation: they do this very competently and modify them in the process, getting something worthwhile at the output!
            1. sevtrash
              sevtrash 19 June 2013 22: 19 New
              +3
              And in the USSR they first copied - the first tank, and the tractor, motors, etc. Then they gained experience, trained specialists, created schools. Now China is on the same path, and it began a long time ago. Only he has more people, money.
              1. soldier's grandson
                soldier's grandson 19 June 2013 22: 24 New
                0
                money just goes in the right direction and not offshore
                1. sevtrash
                  sevtrash 19 June 2013 23: 15 New
                  0
                  And that too, of course. In any case, they don’t have such a Skolkovo, so that the main innovation - a million greenbacks would be rolled off for a lecture. Probably in the world this is not found.
              2. silver_roman
                silver_roman 20 June 2013 16: 19 New
                +1
                I agree. But the USSR had a powerful catalyst - survival. The fact that we copied tanks is yes, but after a couple of years we released a unique tank, which in the end was copied (more precisely, ideas will be adopted) even by Germans. I'm talking about the t-34 as you understand.
                and China has been stealing technology for quite some time, and so far I don’t know about know-how. Unless there are excellent copies. By the way, I would even say that it is a pity that the Russian Federation does not follow a similar path. As a result, China receives a lot of money from this. Take any area: cars (cherie, jelly, etc.), smartphones (huawei, oppo - by the way are not very bad, aircraft (already exported). Soon our su-35 will face a problem, because their copy Su-27 will be much cheaper. And if they manage to copy the engine, then in general there will be trouble. Thank God they have not reached this point yet. In short, the topic is endless))
              3. EGORKA
                EGORKA 21 June 2013 15: 24 New
                +1
                When comparing the USSR with China, in our country the process you are talking about was several times faster and better, from copies to product improvement and even know-how, we not only copied, but invented new ones, improved them, and with this, China hasn’t yet so good. And they started quite a long time, it would be time already, but for now the nickname and this prevents them from reaching a qualitatively new level that would allow them to finally become, as they say, Great .... Russia has already passed this more than once, then rising descending and even reborn from the ashes like a Phoenix bird, after the Second World War. Although once in history “greatness-gunpowder” was invented in China, but they could not use it, spending it on fireworks, can they come up with something else and take advantage of it another question, time will tell.
        2. fisherman
          fisherman 19 June 2013 23: 54 New
          0
          if the situation in Syria again went according to a negative scenario, then China would again express its point of view ...

          China loves to be silent ...
        3. ughhh
          ughhh 20 June 2013 01: 16 New
          +2
          China is not in the G20 countries. Italy is there, for example, but there is no China. On the GXNUMX, China is voting in favor of Russia on almost all issues. Like India. India in the GXNUMX countries, too, no))
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    8. Nightmare12
      Nightmare12 19 June 2013 16: 08 New
      +2
      Quote: Andrew 121
      "Ulomay Vladimir" - bullyHe’s a judoka. How can you break him ?!

      Who will break him? He is a judoka
    9. rolik
      rolik 19 June 2013 16: 59 New
      +4
      Quote: Andrew 121
      Umayul Vladimir "-, he’s a judoka, how can you convoy him ?!

      Or rather:
      - Break off about Vladimir
      1. 755962
        755962 19 June 2013 23: 41 New
        +3
        Quote: rolik
        - Break off about Vladimir
        1. konstant-danil
          konstant-danil 21 June 2013 15: 19 New
          0
          Cool ...
    10. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 19 June 2013 19: 42 New
      +5
      Quote: Andrew 121
      "Ulomay Vladimir" - bullyHe’s a judoka. How can you break him ?!

      I imagine what kind of pressure he was under there. I agree, you can not love him, you can bow down, but a person has a core ...
    11. Val_y
      Val_y 25 June 2013 16: 25 New
      +1
      And he has everything in order with SAMBO, I wish the GDP of strength and courage to confront this "harem" and not only drinks (In Ukraine, they also look at him with hope, break Him, kapets to all Slavs)
  2. wasps
    wasps 19 June 2013 09: 19 New
    18
    Yeah ... patience of the GDP and bend your line, stand your ground and drag out time, and there you look and Assad will cope with the "bearded".
    1. aviator_IAS
      aviator_IAS 19 June 2013 11: 25 New
      +9
      I think the good news from Northern Ireland will add enthusiasm to the Syrian army. When a friend covers up and it’s more pleasant to fight. And for the gangster rabble, this news will become a strong demoralizing factor.
  3. fzr1000
    fzr1000 19 June 2013 09: 21 New
    +9
    None of the sane people from Ge8 expected anything good. The maximum that could be was a delay in the beginning of NATO's active operations in Syria. Liars and hypocrites in expensive suits with glued smiles and sweaty palms.
  4. vadson
    vadson 19 June 2013 09: 23 New
    +5
    I don’t care west to Russia or not, we’ll soon find out, this is me on the issue of intervention
  5. Denis_SF
    Denis_SF 19 June 2013 09: 26 New
    18
    This has long been not the big eight, but the little six.
    1. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 19 June 2013 10: 05 New
      +3
      Quote: Denis_SF
      This has long been not the big eight, but the little six.

      Geyropa in one word, you can’t say otherwise!
  6. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 19 June 2013 09: 32 New
    +3
    And yet, the hands of the gentlemen from the barracks are short. While short.
  7. omsbon
    omsbon 19 June 2013 09: 35 New
    10
    The rubber smiles reminiscent of a jackal grin, the willingness to grab onto the victim by the whole crowd and at the same time fear to do so, as you can get a lot of change. This is the summit.
    1. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx 19 June 2013 10: 49 New
      +3
      one eagle eye of Cameron which is worth))))

      he almost burned a hole in the Darkest at a pro-conference ...
  8. serg.
    serg. 555 19 June 2013 09: 35 New
    +3
    I do not understand? Why can’t we dramatically increase the air defense of our base in Tartus? S-300 and so on and so forth.
    1. skrgar
      skrgar 19 June 2013 09: 57 New
      11
      Quote: serg.555
      I do not understand? Why can’t we dramatically increase the air defense of our base in Tartus? S-300 and so on and so forth.

      Yes, I think the S-300 is already at the base in Tartus ..))) And then everything "converges" .. And Assad’s statement that the S-300 arrived in Syria (the base is in Syria) and the Russian statement that SO NOT Syria received -300 (they have not yet been transferred from the base .. But the Syrians are training)))) I think so !!!))))
      1. barila
        barila 19 June 2013 11: 26 New
        +4
        And I think that the S-300 has long been there)))
      2. Tatanka Yotanka
        Tatanka Yotanka 19 June 2013 17: 43 New
        +1
        maybe I'm wrong, but I think that the s-300 is not there
        Tartus is a densely populated port city, flooded with spies of all stripes, every square meter is viewed by NATO from space, are there hangars capable of accepting such large equipment, judging from a year ago, no http://warfiles.ru/show-10276-chto-ostalos -ot-rossiyskoy-voennoy-bazy-v-tartuse-
        siriya.html
        these are not Russian territories where you can cordon off 100 per 100 kilometers
        1. KazaK Bo
          KazaK Bo 19 June 2013 18: 30 New
          +2
          Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
          maybe I'm wrong, but I think that the s-300 is not there


          ..a ships on what there ??? They have everything they need ...
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      3. vBR
        vBR 23 June 2013 01: 55 New
        0
        Assad’s statement was not. This is a bad translation of Al-Manar, or Al-Manar himself hung the noodles. And hope that they are already in Tartus, of course, I would like to
    2. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 19 June 2013 10: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: serg.555
      I do not understand? Why can’t we dramatically increase the air defense of our base in Tartus? S-300 and so on and so forth.





      And who said what is now impossible !?
    3. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 19 June 2013 18: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: serg.555
      Why can’t we dramatically increase the air defense of our base in Tartus? S-300 and so on

      Look at the list of ships in this squadron, and then in the search engine look at the weapons on these ships and you will see that everything you need is there!
  9. Natalia
    Natalia 19 June 2013 09: 36 New
    16
    And remember how Clinton dragged Lavrov a button with the name OVERLOAD))))) Actually, this happened. It was still surprising to me then if they wanted to write a reboot which one .... it was impossible to find a normal translator for HozdebA throughout America. Well, even if so, they would ask Russian tourists, or at worst the same Lavrov) ....
    .... and you know that Mikhail Zadornov was right about them)))))
    1. Dart weyder
      Dart weyder 19 June 2013 10: 28 New
      14
      I'm afraid - if only they asked a Russian tourist - then there would be a three-letter word - and obviously not WORLD))))))))))))))
  10. Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 19 June 2013 09: 41 New
    20
    To Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, my respect is that he has no equal in the ability to put boogers at the WESTERN LEADERS.
    1. Samminosh
      Samminosh 23 June 2013 23: 12 New
      0
      Yes, like that))
  11. Micex
    Micex 19 June 2013 09: 41 New
    12
    eee, no) The Germans are on our side (well, at least in neutrality) Italy - would like to be on our side, but they are shaking it because of its external debts, so at any moment it will move from a neutral position. And all because these two countries have a common business with the Russian Federation - gas. The rest of the participants are singers.
    1. IRBIS
      IRBIS 19 June 2013 10: 05 New
      34
      Quote: Micex
      The Germans are on our side (well, at least in neutrality) Italy - I would like to be on our side, but they press it because of its external debts, so at any moment it will move from a neutral position.

      Let me continue.
      Japan drools, dreaming of islands. France is now most concerned about the elevation of the buggers. England does not bother such worries - some buggers have been living there for a long time.
      So try to find among this "diversity" of partner and ally, even in a simple question. Most likely, we will never know what they all together and each individually, our President said, what words and arguments he could choose. But all this took a lot of strength from him, that's for sure. And therefore, to our President, respect and recognition. Well done, Vladimir Vladimirovich!
  12. Dejavu
    Dejavu 19 June 2013 09: 42 New
    19
    The wolf and the seven Young goats.
    Vova dragged the summit, no doubt.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 19 June 2013 10: 26 New
      28
      More precisely - Vovka and the seven GOATS angry
      1. rolik
        rolik 19 June 2013 17: 19 New
        +3
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        More precisely - Vovka and the seven GOATS

        Six and one goat are under-milked)))))
  13. 123_123
    123_123 19 June 2013 09: 45 New
    13
    Nevertheless, the communiqué was issued jointly and taking into account the opinion of Russia, so this can be considered a victory for Russian diplomacy, from which it has already been weaned. At least this is not the shameful discharge of Libya by Medvedev.
    1. Scoun
      Scoun 19 June 2013 10: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: 123_123
      Nevertheless, the communique was issued jointly and taking into account the opinion of Russia, so this can be considered a victory of Russian diplomacy, from which it has already been weaned.

      +
      And in September we are expected to continue - a new personal meeting between Putin and Obama is already in Russia. The results, or rather their absence, can be predicted today ...

      Forecast is not the most grateful))))
      IMHA is a Big Bargain! and three months from meeting to meeting is really a small gap .. to see some kind of movement towards something has already been outlined .. but someone will give way for any reason ...
      Relatives of Barack Obama's mother ....
      Her parents Madeline Dunham (1922-2008) and Stanley Armor Dunham (1918-1992) were married in 1940. His mother worked at the Boeing Wichita aircraft factory, and his father served in the US Army. Among distant relatives, Stanley was a relative of several US presidents: James Madison, Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson, Jimmy Carter, George W. Bush.
  14. Blackwing
    Blackwing 19 June 2013 09: 47 New
    10
    You can relate to the figure of the Russian president as you like, it is a personal matter and everyone’s right. You can hate him, you can bow before him, making an effort, you may not even notice him, but it would seem that the ordinary and passing summit of the G8 in Northern Ireland makes one important fact clear: Putin is replaying the rest of the GXNUMX


    I absolutely agree with the author of the article, it is very true said.
  15. Nitarius
    Nitarius 19 June 2013 09: 47 New
    41
    Hold on to VOVIK! At least until 20-25! While rearming!
    And there you look - and on a visit to Europe on T-90 TANKS we will go!


    "The biggest mistake is to neglect the Russians. Find the Russians weak. Offend the Russians. Never offend the Russians. The Russians are never as weak as you think. God forbid to expel the Russians or take something from the Russians. The Russians always come back. The Russians But when the Russians return, they don’t know how to calculate the force and apply it proportionally. They destroy everything in their path. Do not offend the Russians. Otherwise, when the Russians return to the graves of their ancestors, the people living on this earth will envy their the ancestors are dead. "

    Chechen writer Herman Sadulaev, "Leap of the Wolf. Essays on the Political History of Chechnya."
    1. alexkross83
      alexkross83 19 June 2013 09: 54 New
      10
      The book of German Sadulayev must be released in a large circulation and translated into many languages, and politicians from the West need to remember and keep this quote in their minds.
      1. Blackwing
        Blackwing 19 June 2013 15: 25 New
        0
        he has several of them. which do you mean?
  16. Kolya
    Kolya 19 June 2013 09: 53 New
    27
    Russia has a First President to be proud of.
  17. kostofan
    kostofan 19 June 2013 09: 57 New
    21
    Yes Volodya has eggs.
  18. My address
    My address 19 June 2013 09: 59 New
    +6
    Similarly, the title of the article. And Babama’s beloved wife is from Grossbritania.
  19. Sergey21
    Sergey21 19 June 2013 10: 04 New
    13
    Otherwise, when the Russians return to the earth to the graves of their ancestors, those living on this earth will envy their dead ancestors. "
    I really liked this! Good luck, strength, and patience to Putin!
  20. krez-74
    krez-74 19 June 2013 10: 13 New
    24
    Putin is a leader in all respects! And whoever says anything, Russia now has no alternative. And I, personally, always treat him and his actions with understanding and respect!
    And the fact that he stands across the throat of the West is generally a good indicator!
  21. Owl
    Owl 19 June 2013 10: 15 New
    16
    Quote: sevtrash
    For them, in fact, this is not fundamental - the consent of Russia. However, like China. If they want, they will arrange a no-fly zone. They just haven’t decided yet.


    Do you seriously think that am and their sixes do not care about the position of Russia and China? Why, then, a no-fly zone has not yet been introduced, carpet bombing on the principle of Yugoslavia-Iraq-Libya has not begun, and NATO warriors have not been introduced to kill survivors? Just don’t say that you don’t want / didn’t decide / no consent / no need. They do not want and cannot - these are slightly different things. Oppositionterrorists have long been shouting at every corner that they need full-fledged military assistance and will not last long without it. However, apart from the words that the Yankees decided to deliver weapons to terrorists (and they were supplied without them), there is no real action. But there are none of them precisely because of the position of Russia and China.

    Quote: sevtrash
    And they will arrange the occasion themselves, or the rebels will help.

    Already tried, and more than once, but the "chemical" trump card and allegedly the transfer of weapons to terrorists did not work.

    Quote: sevtrash
    And the right journalists will arrange a public brainwashing. Who is strong is right.

    It seems that these very correct journalists have already washed it to you. Don’t be offended.
    1. sevtrash
      sevtrash 19 June 2013 22: 14 New
      0
      A military operation is expensive, it is cheaper to pay opposition rebels, terrorists, especially since Qatar and the Saudis also pay. And now, Islamists began to prevail in this group of oppositionists and there is no reason to help them, so Europeans and the USA are thinking about how to do everything.
      It seems that this information is everywhere, which is not clear, do not be offended.
      And the occasion will work when they decide that the time has come. And there are right journalists.
      And what do you see in my brainwashing - that it’s not food for happiness, that Putin is cool? Yes, he's done. But Russia is no longer the USSR, opportunities and weight are not the same, unfortunately.
  22. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 19 June 2013 10: 24 New
    14
    Oh, it's hard for Putin to fight them, but resisted ... hi
    1. serjant4
      serjant4 19 June 2013 11: 06 New
      +6
      Nowhere to retreat further - Mother Russia is behind ...
  23. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 19 June 2013 10: 51 New
    11
    I watched the interview of Putin and Cameron, so if Putin answered the case, the second one repeats, Assad used chemical weapons and must leave, Assad used chemical weapons and must leave, Assad used chemical weapons and must leave, Assad used chemical weapons and must leave, Assad used chemical weapons and must go, Carthage must be destroyed, Carthage must be destroyed, Carthage must be destroyed, Carthage must be destroyed, Carthage must be destroyed .....
  24. KononAV
    KononAV 19 June 2013 10: 59 New
    +7
    Syrian tanks missiles Iran planes Venezuela
  25. Zeus
    Zeus 19 June 2013 10: 59 New
    11
    The heads of state were shown in a video about the arrival of the GXNUMX representatives at the summit, so only Putin is a normal, taut guy. And the rest are miserable, rickety, stooped effeminate monsters. Well, besides Merkel, this overweight creature is a woman.

    1. Check
      Check 19 June 2013 11: 25 New
      +7
      You can always find out by Putin's walk)))
      1. Malleus
        Malleus 19 June 2013 15: 52 New
        +8
        "You can always find out by Putin's walk)))"

        Well, the "European leaders" are recognizable ... by tights. laughing
      2. Karabin
        Karabin 19 June 2013 23: 40 New
        +1
        Quote: Check
        You can always find out by Putin's walk)))

        Lenin by the squinting eyes, Hitler by the bangs, Gaddafi by the camels, Arofat by the scarf, and Bush-ml by the dull expression on his face.
    2. Atlon
      Atlon 19 June 2013 11: 29 New
      +3
      Quote: Zeus
      The video on the arrival of the GXNUMX summit showed the heads of state

      Did I just notice that Cameron met only Putin and Obama on the first third of the track? The rest are someone in the middle, someone closer to the end.
      1. Andrew 121
        Andrew 121 19 June 2013 13: 47 New
        +6
        Obama Cameron patted a salag on the shoulder.
        1. Atlon
          Atlon 19 June 2013 16: 42 New
          +3
          Quote: Andrew 121
          Obama Cameron patted a salag on the shoulder.

          By the way, yes! I was immediately reminded how Clinton Boriska clapped just as condescendingly ... It was already disgusting.
          1. Karabin
            Karabin 19 June 2013 23: 36 New
            -1
            Quote: Atlon
            like Clinton Borisku

            And how did Bush the youngest Vlad clap and affectionately call the way-forgotten?
  26. Dawn
    Dawn 19 June 2013 11: 02 New
    -8
    He keeps the national funds at the cordon, removes resources for nothing, ruins his production by dumping imports, raising utility and gas tariffs, creating a gangster-corruption system in the country, replacing the Russian-speaking population with Central Asians - no Syria will cross out what this criminal did.
    The article is clearly custom-made to raise the rating of bald.
    1. Atlon
      Atlon 19 June 2013 11: 16 New
      14
      Quote: Dawn
      The article is clearly custom-made to raise the rating of bald.

      And who ordered your comment? Or so, by frivolity?
    2. GP
      GP 19 June 2013 11: 27 New
      15
      Quote: Dawn
      He keeps the national funds at the cordon, removes resources for nothing, ruins his production by dumping imports, raising utility and gas tariffs, creating a gangster-corruption system in the country, replacing the Russian-speaking population with Central Asians - no Syria will cross out what this criminal did.
      The article is clearly custom-made to raise the rating of bald.


      - For poor knowledge of the subject deuce. Sit down.
      - Next?
      1. KazaK Bo
        KazaK Bo 19 June 2013 18: 44 New
        +4
        [quot] Quote: Dawn General government funds are kept behind the cordon, exporting resources for nothing, ruining its production by dumping imports, raising utility and gas tariffs, creating a gang-corruption system in the country, replacing the Russian-speaking population with Central Asians - but no Syria will cross out what it has done this criminal. The article is clearly custom-made to raise the rating of bald. [/ Quote]
        THE TRUTH ... NOTHING EXCEPT THE TRUTH! This is the motto of all KASCHENKO clinic patients! DAWN! When did you manage to escape from there?
    3. Ustas
      Ustas 19 June 2013 11: 59 New
      +6
      Quote: Dawn

      And in your own words, from your personal experience to say something weak? Why repeat the hackneyed liberalistic mantras?
  27. Atlon
    Atlon 19 June 2013 11: 05 New
    +8
    I would call the article in another way ... "Dolls and Putin. Conversations with puppets"
  28. HAIFISCH
    HAIFISCH 19 June 2013 11: 13 New
    +5
    Interestingly, and Putin for the harmfulness laughing Pay extra ?, with these summits.
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 19 June 2013 11: 52 New
      +8
      Coupons are given for milk, as expected. And he buys cognac himself. He will come to the hotel in the evening, slam fifty ... more then it’s impossible, sport, work ... and I swear probably. Quietly, so as not to write. And then he calls the Chinese, the Indians ... He also represents them at this pontificate meeting. Well, the work of man. Damn, I would have burned to ashes, some shoes would have remained ...
      1. Atlon
        Atlon 19 June 2013 13: 31 New
        10
        Quote: Mikhail3
        Well, the work of man. Damn, I would have burned to ashes, some shoes would have remained ...

        I think Putin is increasingly showing himself as a VERY ambitious person. But everyone’s ambitions are different. Someone has a watch with trousers, a Bentley with gilding and a mansion in the Canaries, but someone else is completely different ... No less, no less, but the place is in the HISTORY! Such ambitious people were: Ivan the Terrible, Peter the Great, Alexander III, Joseph Stalin ... To get into this row, considerable efforts are needed! Now I will say pathetically ... Proud that I have such a President! And that I am his contemporary. good
        1. Karabin
          Karabin 19 June 2013 23: 46 New
          -1
          Quote: Atlon
          Ivan the Terrible, Peter the Great, Alexander III, Joseph Stalin ...

          Or such a series. Time will tell.
          Nicholas II, Boris Yeltsin, Mikhail Gorbachev. The story is complicated.
  29. Ustas
    Ustas 19 June 2013 11: 36 New
    +5
    Like, let's, gentlemen from the BBC, atu him

    As far as I remember, from the latest world history and the history of Russia, it has always been so. No matter what Russia and Putin do, praise towards Russia from our sworn "friends" is not heard. Chechnya - Russia suppresses freedom fighters, 08,08,08 - Russia attacked such a democratic Georgia, successes in the Russian economy - again, Russia is doing the wrong thing, etc., etc.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 19 June 2013 23: 49 New
      0
      Quote: Ustas
      No matter what Russia and Putin do, praise towards Russia from our sworn "friends" is not heard.

      Be fair, our sworn friends very positively responded to joining the WTO.
  30. Zhaman-Urus
    Zhaman-Urus 19 June 2013 11: 47 New
    0
    Glad for the results with you. But he read that Putin has signed an agreement to reduce nuclear weapons. Does anyone have more detailed information?
  31. ocvbc
    ocvbc 19 June 2013 11: 52 New
    -2
    The people in the network leaked the entire database about us all! Now you can watch any information about everyone who interests you! Use until you close! Here's the link - clck.ru/8hBBA
  32. spd2001
    spd2001 19 June 2013 12: 54 New
    +2
    What is Canada saying there? What is her opinion? And then, inaudible, not visible. Can I see everyone? What does she even do in the eight? Another North American representative ?! Then give at least one more representative of Asia. China for example bully
  33. mizantropi
    mizantropi 19 June 2013 13: 57 New
    +2
    Vladimir Vladimirovich-definitely YOUNG! So calmly and confidently, in a complete minority, to show the FAK to all these freaks is expensive! At least the Syrian Army now has more time to lock in the outhouse of Wahhabi evil spirits. The cannibals are saddened by the outcome of this "summit" ...
  34. Lakkuchu
    Lakkuchu 19 June 2013 14: 03 New
    +2
    It seems to me in the second photo that Putin has a great desire to throw Barak through his thigh smile It’s a pity that the differences between Russia and the United States cannot be resolved by a clash of leaders of countries. I would like to see Putin squeak this lanky to ippon smile
  35. vadutc
    vadutc 19 June 2013 14: 04 New
    +6
    Yes, I believe that Obama is not as bad as it seems. look at him, he already does not have a face, 100 times already regretted that he was appointed president) and what to do, what they say should be done, otherwise his head will be off his shoulders, and maybe his family. I think he is a hostage to his post. But Putin is great, I don’t know; there are 1000 opinions about our president, bad, good, etc. Of course, in our country far from everything is good, but 10 times better than it was 10 years ago, it is a fact. and propaganda is better in Europe, America is higher, garbage, in my opinion there is actually not as good as it seems. people are protesting, some unrest, problems, unemployment, can rest there and it’s not bad to go for a week, but I don’t feel like living there anymore, especially in France))))
  36. HAM
    HAM 19 June 2013 14: 53 New
    +6
    Yes, guys, look back at history. When it was for the wild west to like RUSSIA, we will never be the same as these snobs with all-knowing and omnipotent showers.
  37. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 19 June 2013 16: 13 New
    -12
    are you here ready to lick ass Putin and who pulled Russia into the WTO? the president should be different who for the people ane for the oligarchs
    1. redwar6
      redwar6 19 June 2013 17: 24 New
      +6
      Tell me the national leader, your plan for the development of the country, the development of the economy, a plan to fight corruption. As I understand it, you are “Master” in this matter!
      1. soldier's grandson
        soldier's grandson 19 June 2013 18: 38 New
        0
        why reinvent the wheel everything was in the 37th there Stalin fought corruption as needed and there were no terrorists and they loved the country and at eight clean PR
    2. Ashibokov57
      Ashibokov57 19 June 2013 19: 03 New
      +1
      Surely there is a fly in the ointment. Who asked you to speak up?
      1. soldier's grandson
        soldier's grandson 19 June 2013 19: 11 New
        0
        utterances at the PR summit people distract from internal problems, and about a spoonful of rags, it’s been with us since 1991. Think really how to live for us and our children. The government works in the interests of the oligarchs.
  38. redwar6
    redwar6 19 June 2013 17: 23 New
    +2

    In general, the summit, according to the tradition that has developed in recent years, has become another series of the soap opera “Ulomai Vladimir”, but only Vladimir continues to prove that he is not fragile ...

    And in September we are expected to continue - a new personal meeting between Putin and Obama is already in Russia. The results, or rather their absence, can be predicted today ...
    At this point, laughed out loud :)
    Thanks for the review of the situation, but now it’s deaf, they don’t talk about it anywhere.
  39. ioann1
    ioann1 19 June 2013 17: 28 New
    +5
    Putin’s position is firm and steady, because he is guided by common sense and sequence of actions. Well, the main thing is that the truth is on our side. On the side of Russia! And this is extremely important. The modern world is rushing into the abyss with its Sodomite hateful laws, and these are not jokes at all, and for this the West will have to pay not the President of Russia, but the Creator.

    Passau city, water arrives ...
    1. Captain45
      Captain45 19 June 2013 22: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: ioann1
      Passau city, water arrives ...

      This is for 41! And now you can minus.
  40. waisson
    waisson 19 June 2013 18: 39 New
    +1
    what prident is such an attitude towards him
    1. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 19 June 2013 18: 47 New
      +4
      Quote: waisson
      what prident is such an attitude towards him

      We have a positive, but YOU?
  41. antidote
    antidote 19 June 2013 19: 04 New
    +4
    GDP Well done! I imagine how he did not want to go to this "meeting". Obviously, they were supposed to put pressure on him there. But he went and survived. Strong man! And He presented His State with dignity. Proud of the President!
  42. Naval
    Naval 19 June 2013 19: 15 New
    +1
    "Ap !! and the tigers sat down at my feet, Ap !! And they look into my eyes from the stairs, Ap !! And they spin on the carousel ..." If you replace the tigers with goats (the tongue does not turn tigers of these jackals from G7), then in the role of a trainer, it is quite possible to imagine GDP.
  43. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 19 June 2013 19: 37 New
    +1
    Quote: Nitarius
    Hold on to VOVIK! At least until 20-25! While rearming!
    And there you look - and on a visit to Europe on T-90 TANKS we will go!
    until the age of 25, soldiers without boots will remain with such power

    "The biggest mistake is to neglect the Russians. Find the Russians weak. Offend the Russians. Never offend the Russians. The Russians are never as weak as you think. God forbid to expel the Russians or take something from the Russians. The Russians always come back. The Russians But when the Russians return, they don’t know how to calculate the force and apply it proportionally. They destroy everything in their path. Do not offend the Russians. Otherwise, when the Russians return to the graves of their ancestors, the people living on this earth will envy their the ancestors are dead. "

    Chechen writer Herman Sadulaev, "Leap of the Wolf. Essays on the Political History of Chechnya."
  44. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 19 June 2013 19: 39 New
    -18
    custom-made article and who is happy here as children are most likely edrosiki
    1. подводник
      подводник 19 June 2013 19: 54 New
      +5
      granddaughter

      Judging by your height, you don’t feel sympathy for the above comments quite respectable and quite robust (unlike you people) ....
      I’ll give you one tip: buy a Russian language textbook!
      1. soldier's grandson
        soldier's grandson 19 June 2013 19: 58 New
        -15
        tip shove yourself a deeper submariner
        1. подводник
          подводник 19 June 2013 20: 25 New
          +5
          granddaughter

          I read your advice and I confess that it’s even scary to think in what peculiar way you deal with textbooks ... Do you think it’s better to “get it”?
          Yes, you have an interesting fantasy .... you know that, perhaps, you should turn to a psychologist too ...
          And finally, I’ll tell you a secret: books should be read, but not popped anywhere ...
          1. soldier's grandson
            soldier's grandson 19 June 2013 20: 34 New
            -5
            you mixed up what I advised you to do the opposite, pull out a textbook and stick your tip
    2. redwar6
      redwar6 19 June 2013 20: 17 New
      +4
      And you, probably, are an ideological revolutionary? I already wrote to you, you didn’t answer. You do not have a leader, a plan, but “Putin is to blame for everything !!!!!”. And a special thank you for “Edrosik. We’re here to you with respect, by the way. And we were called "Joyful Edrosiks".
      PS I am familiar with such "Ideological revolutionaries", and so they either get paid in the State Department of the USA, or naive people.
      I’ll ask another question. Do you live in an apartment? Is there gas / light? Is there a car, probably?
      1. soldier's grandson
        soldier's grandson 19 June 2013 20: 26 New
        -4
        Why believe people who haven’t done anything good for the people? I have everything, but it went to the Soviet Union and I don’t know anything for ideological revolutionaries. I’m from the periphery, but here I’m seeing everything from Moscow. position because I judge life in the outback
        1. redwar6
          redwar6 19 June 2013 21: 25 New
          +4
          You remind which country went to Putin after a bori glass?
          1. soldier's grandson
            soldier's grandson 19 June 2013 21: 29 New
            -1
            But what is different now?
            1. redwar6
              redwar6 20 June 2013 00: 25 New
              +1
              Can I immediately reach a verdict? Tomorrow I will find a video for you, cultural enlightenment will not hurt ..
            2. fisherman
              fisherman 20 June 2013 00: 33 New
              +1
              "Always ask the truth from the people"
              1. redwar6
                redwar6 20 June 2013 12: 08 New
                0
                Hello, we have arrived. We are all people here.
  45. Nymp
    Nymp 19 June 2013 20: 09 New
    +7
    QUOTE: "And this is by the way that Russia is as weak as ever today, that everyone who cares about Russia today has the opinion of Russia in the rest of the world, excuse me, everyone is on the drum. But no, it doesn’t work" on the drum " . " For a long time, the Opinion of Russia has quite significant significance in the world (* it is simply physically difficult to ignore a country like Russia) those who doubt it or even reject it are people to put it mildly not competent in politics. All this thanks to one person - Putin. And all sorts of grandchildren of incomprehensible whose soldiers are either offended by life and on everything and everyone and they do not care much about Russia, or these are little people divorced from reality, living their own, imagined little world, and reject everything that does not fit into this world.
    1. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 19 June 2013 20: 29 New
      -6
      I don’t give a damn about Russia; I don’t need to insult me, but I remember hearing the voice of a political gay
  46. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 19 June 2013 20: 47 New
    +4
    <<< if a high-ranking official from the USA (especially the president) begins to use the words “chemical weapons”, then he feels that all other arguments are over >>>
    The Syrian opposition and gangster rabble, supported by the West, is defeated and the "moment of truth" is approaching! If the states using proven technology through the omnipotent dermocratic media start a universal howl about the “undoubted” use of chemical weapons by the Syrian army and its threat to the whole world, and its representatives at the UN begin to shake test tubes (as before the aggression in Iraq), demanding immediate intervention on the side of the Syrian opposition , then this means that the states decided to cross the Rubicon, shit-democrats “bit the bit” and are ready to fight the Russian bear. All sorts of idylls with "partnership" and "reboots" are finally over and the West is returning to the times of the Cold War and will pressure Russia from the outside and harm and crap through its 5th column from the inside!
    1. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 19 June 2013 21: 03 New
      -5
      and the 5th column is who? Enlighten please?
  47. vadutc
    vadutc 19 June 2013 21: 03 New
    +3
    What about comrade grandchildbut, in principle, after all, a person correctly speaks, in the depths of life, to put it mildly, g ... but in this regard, of course, the authorities cannot cope with us or do not want to., but believe me, I don’t think it’s Putin’s fault, you can’t remove the entire 5th column at once, when there are only rats around, it’s hard to get out.
    1. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 19 June 2013 21: 08 New
      -2
      today the president issued a decree: to pay 10 thousand rubles to the residents of the Samara region who suffered from the explosions of ammunition thank you very much for your concern
    2. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 19 June 2013 21: 12 New
      0
      one rat was transferred from oboronservis to rosnano and satisfied
    3. fisherman
      fisherman 20 June 2013 00: 35 New
      +2
      in these very "depths" the highest percentage of voters for Putin ...

      apparently, mind and wisdom are two different things :)
      1. soldier's grandson
        soldier's grandson 20 June 2013 00: 44 New
        -1
        in the Volga gdp lost the election result: change of governor
        1. fisherman
          fisherman 20 June 2013 01: 36 New
          +5
          in the Volga region GDP also won ...

          my cousin, as an active supporter of Just Russia, took part in the vote count, was twice surprised: the first time when they counted the final results, the second time when his wife and children informed him that they voted for Putin :)

          and so actively nodding his head :)))

          I'm still mocking him :)
  48. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 19 June 2013 21: 43 New
    0
    Quote: soldier's grandson
    today the president issued a decree: to pay 10 thousand rubles to the residents of the Samara region who suffered from the explosions of ammunition thank you very much for your concern

    but here for what minus?
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 19 June 2013 22: 50 New
      +1
      I read the comments and I won’t understand what caused such widespread approval and an attack of tender love for the guarantor? Did not support the no-fly zone and the exile of Assad? Damn, how little we now need to shout "Hurray." The Westerners did not break the president. "He was seduced by his queens" (C). But he stood up. So there were reasons to doubt, since now such joy. And the pearls that he was very hard that pressed. You might think that six masculine and one effeminate physically tried to defeat our not very tall guarantor. The results of the gatherings are as follows - each remained with his own. So in Syria, the war will continue in the same vein. Friends will support the rebels with manpower, weapons, and money. Russia and China are a good word. With Iran, for now, the confusion is a "change in composition." Time plays against Assad.
      1. sevtrash
        sevtrash 19 June 2013 23: 29 New
        +1
        That's for sure. And the main task for Putin is the economy. “The time for cheap fuel is over” did not work, innovation slows down, officials steal. These are the main problems, and it does not seem that there is any real program to stimulate or what else to call the economy.
        More correctly, it can negotiate with the powers that be about joint ventures, projects, etc. Of course, maybe Syria will stand and then give some kind of contracts. But what is the probability and which is better. I doubt that cold calculations prevail, aimed primarily at the well-being of their country.
        1. fisherman
          fisherman 20 June 2013 00: 37 New
          +1
          More correctly, it can negotiate with the powers that be about joint ventures, projects, etc.


          Are you serious?:)
  49. MG42
    MG42 19 June 2013 22: 24 New
    +6
    Relations between the West and Russia vary in a sinusoid. Depends on both leaders and geopolitical events. Recall the 90th EBN laughed with Clinton hugging in the White House and at the same time Primakov deployed the plane because of the bombing of Belgrade, if DAM blessed the invasion of Libya with tacit consent, then the GDP showed stiffness in Syria and the last summit and what preceded him prove it , remember the statement by Hilary << Russia will pay for it! >>, then the secretary of state changed to Kerry, and we reinforce diplomacy by expelling the secretary of the US embassy, ​​part-time spy, and envoys beat their foreheads at the slightest mention of arms deliveries to Syria. Putin is a hammer!
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 19 June 2013 23: 25 New
      -1
      Quote: MG42
      EBN laughed with Clinton hugging in the White House and at the same time Primakov deployed the plane due to the bombing of Belgrade,

      After and received membership in the eight, probably in gratitude.
      Quote: MG42
      DAM blessed invasion of Libya with tacit consent

      DAM was independent? With the tacit consent of the GDP.
      Quote: MG42
      GDP shows stiffness in Syria

      What is the stiffness? In calls for international law and a veto at the UN? So these are the words. Where are you? Where are the arms supplies? For 2,5 years, not a single tank, plane, helicopter. Moreover, the S-300. Although there are existing contracts.
      1. MG42
        MG42 19 June 2013 23: 50 New
        +6
        Quote: Karabin
        What is the stiffness?

        While in diplomacy ..
        You from the above listed presidents of Russia apparently no one likes, right?
        1. Karabin
          Karabin 20 June 2013 00: 16 New
          -2
          Quote: MG42
          of the above presidents of Russia apparently no one likes it,

          I like potatoes with mushrooms and don’t like cabbage rolls. As for the listed presidents, not one of the two (I don’t consider DAM, because this is not serious) did not and does not work for the power of Russia. And EBN conducted and GDP conducts a course in the interests of its clans. So far, in the interests of clans, the presence of Russian statehood in the form in which it exists.
          1. soldier's grandson
            soldier's grandson 20 June 2013 00: 19 New
            -2
            sober reasonable argument completely agree +++
          2. MG42
            MG42 20 June 2013 00: 24 New
            +1
            Quote: Karabin
            I like potatoes with mushrooms and don’t like cabbage rolls.

            Not correct, the meaning was clear.
            Quote: Karabin
            So far, in the interests of clans, the presence of Russian statehood in the form in which it exists.

            Now it’s clear that the model itself is not happy ..
      2. MG42
        MG42 20 June 2013 00: 09 New
        +6
        Quote: Karabin
        DAM was independent? With the tacit consent of the GDP.

        Now compare 2 video position on Libya GDP

        and DAM
        1. vBR
          vBR 23 June 2013 03: 24 New
          0
          So after all, theater is a common practice in Russian politics, unfortunately. Until V. Putin takes real steps to counter the West in Syria, we won’t recognize his real position. The flag demonstration is also more likely moral support (6 ships versus 60), and the real one is the transfer of weapons and spare parts to the ATS army. And we will never know about Libya at all, his timid reproaches to the West and supposedly "conflict" with Medvedev do not say anything. The Munich speech was also pathos (they even asked him there, but what will you confront with), but what did you see during the next ten years with oil mans? It is called a banal phrase - a catastrophic retirement of production assets and the degradation of human resources. Well, at least a little after 2008 changed their minds. When the main politician only understands after 10 years that they can still shy away with a club (when the tomahawks appeared in the Black Sea) - for Russia this is at least an incomplete official correspondence
      3. vBR
        vBR 23 June 2013 02: 59 New
        0
        Yes, the snot of emotion is bred too much here, one wonders how little is needed and how much memory and common sense bothers. Statements, even such streamlined ones, are good, although it has long been necessary to express them more specifically, and not dive into metaphors "but they eat the insides." But with the "help financially" is really a little tough, although I do not say that it does not at all. It’s immediately obvious that people don’t imagine what the war is about, i.e. they read something there, watched enthusiastic reports, and the scale of the possible use of funds by the enemy - well, not even with a foot. And what does the country need in order to produce and create weapons in sufficient quantities. Until 2014, a contract will be signed for 24 (!) MiG-35s for the Russian Air Force with delivery by 18 Ah, the Russian aviation industry is reviving at an unprecedented pace! Only a child can jump too much for joy. In the 80s, one Lukhovitsy factory made 300 pieces of the 29th per year, and this is with a generally good park and a living Warsaw block, and not with rotten completely and with the Baltic states in NATO. So it is with Syria. Ah, he objected to Obama! What a wise politician and, in general, a great man! There will be supplies of equipment - then you can believe the words. In the meantime, you have to wait
  50. Daduda
    Daduda 19 June 2013 22: 26 New
    +1
    Quote: mnn_13

    Here I recall Vanga’s answer at the beginning of 90x to the question when there will be a third world war. She replied: "It’s too early! Syria has not fallen yet ..." Who in these years could have thought of some kind of Syrian fall?


    If you take it exactly as it is written, you say so, then Syria will still fall and there will be the 3-th World War. Somehow it looks gloomy.
    1. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 19 June 2013 22: 31 New
      -2
      our will not go into Syria, we have the only trump card in the amount of military equipment, we are in the ass before NATO, thanks for that to all our presidents, what are you all zombied like this for 40 years with little force and on foreign territory
      1. EGORKA
        EGORKA 21 June 2013 16: 08 New
        +2
        Why everyone? be even a little objective, no matter what Putin is for anyone, but with him things are many times better than under Gorbachev, who began the collapse and under Yeltsin, who continued it. What these two have done is not so easy to fix.
        1. vBR
          vBR 23 June 2013 03: 44 New
          +1
          Many times better - it depends on what, and then conditionally. In many areas, the followers of Gaidar began real reforms under Putin, Yeltsin, despite zealous anti-Sovietism, somehow intuitively felt that some systems should not be touched. Take and see the Roskomstat handbook. That is, Putin, having done many necessary things for Russia, cannot be represented as an opponent of Yeltsin and the liberals; he himself never said that. It must be taken real and deed, and not to think of its image. And then it turns out I see not what is, but what I want. But in foreign policy, it’s definitely better, especially after such a traitor as Kozyrev
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 19 June 2013 23: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: Daduda
      Syria will fall anyway and there will be the 3-th World War.

      Well, if you continue to remember the old woman - “Kursk will go under water,” however, Kursk stands, and the submarine of the same name sank.
    3. vBR
      vBR 23 June 2013 03: 50 New
      0
      Then it is urgent to break into Syria without looking back at the UN and fall with it in order to carry more reptiles with you smile I'm trying to laugh it off, but the hunch is not good either