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Sukhoi Optimization

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In order to reach a positive net profit in a year, the GSS is going to drastically reduce its costs, increase the production of aircraft and modify the export sales system.


Sukhoi Optimization

GSS Senior Vice President Artem Poghosyan intends to use the full potential of export credit agencies


The Sukhoi Civil Aircraft (GSS) company began to implement a comprehensive plan of measures to reduce production costs and increase productivity. After three years, overhead costs should be reduced by more than a third. But this is not the end. GSS already carries out the repracing of the systems and components of the aircraft, which will reduce their purchase price annually by 5% for three years. All this is necessary in order to improve the financial condition of the company. Last year, Sukhoi, despite the growth in revenue, recorded a loss of 4,5 billion rubles. On how to remedy this situation, why the company needs state support and what new projects it intends to launch, the senior vice president for economics and finance of the GSS, Artem Poghosyan, told Expert.

- Last year your company sharply - almost tripled - increased its revenue, up to 9,5 billion rubles. But at the same time, the loss also increased - from 3,8 billion to 4,5 billion rubles. What made it happen?

- At this stage, we are actively increasing production rates: if in the year 2011 produced 5 aircraft, then in 2012-m - already 14. That is, an increase of three times. And this is quite a good indicator, considering that we started quite recently. As for the loss, it is primarily due to the fact that we have provided very serious discounts for SSJ 100 start-up customers (up to 40% of the catalog price - “Expert”). But this is fully consistent with international practice. In order to enter the market with a new product, we are simply obliged to create the best competitive conditions for our customers.

- And when will you start making a profit?

- We plan to reach operating profit next year, and in another year we will achieve positive net profit figures. But, in order to achieve our goals, we need to drastically increase the production rate to 60 aircraft per year and at the same time significantly reduce costs. We are now implementing a comprehensive action plan, which is aimed at both increasing labor productivity and improving the financial and economic condition of the company. This plan provides for the optimization of the cost of the aircraft, including at the expense of the GSS domestic resources. We have already optimized a number of technological processes in the final assembly shop, introduced a plan for improving quality. We also have a program to reduce overhead costs by an average of a year by 11,5 percent. In addition, in the next few years we intend to annually reduce the cost of purchased components by 5 percent and increase the utilization rate of materials.

- What changes do you want to make to the financing structure?

- It is known that the SSJ program was financed both from the federal budget and from the share capital of the GSS itself, as well as loans and credits. We believe that it should be financed on commercially competitive terms, taking into account the use of including market mechanisms.

“We often hear that the SSJ 100 program is being funded on preferential terms ...”

- This is not true. The effective average rate on our loan portfolio is on the order of 7 percent. This is incomparable with the rates at which companies that implement similar high-tech projects abroad are credited. They have it LIBOR plus 3,5 percent. That is a total of about 4 percent.

- At the end of last year, the GSS debt amounted to 62,8 billion rubles. How will you solve this problem?

- Work is being carried out in several areas at once. Firstly, it is the recapitalization of the GSS. Secondly, the use of funds within the framework of the Federal Target Program “Development of Civil aviation technology ”to improve the base aircraft. And finally, thirdly, it is the optimization of financing conditions in order to reduce lending rates.

- Now the GSS launches two new versions of its aircraft - the SSJ 100 LR with an increased flight range and the Sukhoi Business Jet. How much will this require additional investment?

- As part of the program to improve our product, including the creation of the SSJ version of the 100 LR, we have planned investments up to 2015 in the amount of 5,5 billion rubles. As for the program Sukhoi Business Jet, then it is planned to spend about 1,5 billion rubles on it. This program is funded by the GSS company and its shareholders. But we understand that in the long run, competitiveness in the market can only be ensured if we expand the model range, release new versions.

- Do you intend to expand the line of aircraft SSJ 100?

- Next year, it is planned to supply the aircraft based on the Long Range version in a new configuration on the 103 passenger seats, where slim-seats will be installed. In this case, the design of the aircraft will not change. And in the future we are considering the possibility of creating a liner with a capacity of up to 130 passengers. This is what the market requires of us: in 2017 – 2018, the new families of regional planes will be offered by our competitors, and we just need to introduce a new competitive product by this time.


SSJ launch customers received a discount of almost 40%


- What factor will be decisive in this competitive struggle: price, cost of operation or something else? How competitive is SSJ 100 at all now?

- Of course, SSJ 100 is a competitive product in comparison with Western counterparts. Our aircraft on the 5 – 7 percent more effective than competing models. The comfort level for passengers on the SSJ 100 is significantly higher than that of competitors. It is more in line with the comfort of short-haul aircraft, which creates additional competitive advantages. But at the same time, the cost of the provided financial package is very important, which predetermines the economic efficiency of the aircraft operation. Today, the basic scheme of acquiring aircraft is leasing. We conducted a detailed analysis of leasing transactions in the market, which showed that due to the high cost of funding in Russia, which is of the order of 8 percent versus 3 percent abroad, and also because of the length of money - 10 years we have against 20 and more years In the West, this amount of leasing rates is uncompetitive. Foreign competitors have the opportunity to offer significantly more attractive financial terms for acquiring aircraft, even despite the higher cost of their aircraft compared to SSJ 100. Therefore, we are now making every effort to improve our offer in terms of sales financing.

- What government support is used to promote SSJ 100?

- To support domestic sales, a number of government decrees were issued that allow leasing companies to receive subsidies within the framework of attracted financing, which ultimately provides them with a competitive leasing rate. As for promotion in the foreign market, the mechanism there is somewhat different - the state compensates the financial institution for the difference between the market interest rate and the preferential lending company, at the expense of the property contribution. So, in particular, were financed transactions in the countries of Southeast Asia. Today, at the level of the Ministry of Industry and Trade, the Ministry of Economic Development, the Ministry of Finance and the KLA, work is actively under way to create effective sales support mechanisms to meet the requirements of the WTO.

- How much money has the state allocated to support SSJ 100 sales?

- About 100 million dollars were allocated to support sales of our aircraft in the external market, in the domestic market - about 20 million dollars.

- How to improve the system of financing sales of SSJ 100, including export, in order to increase sales?

- A very important point is associated with the guarantee of the residual value of the aircraft. Now in Russia there is no established secondary market for aircraft, and therefore it is very difficult to predict their residual value in five or ten years. Because of this, the buyers of our aircraft are loosing this risk on the GSS, which in fact contradicts the established world practice. We are working to change this situation, in particular, there are already proposals for a mechanism for equalizing the competitive conditions of our product in terms of residual value guarantees. As for the export of our aircraft, then export credit agencies that will lend to foreign trade operations and provide guarantees to banks can be an effective sales support tool. In the near future, the GSS and SuperJet International will begin supplying the aircraft of the Mexican airline Interjet. For this transaction, we involve the French agency COFACE, the Italian SACI, and from the Russian side at the first stage VEB, and later - EXIAR (the Russian export credit agency. - Expert). That is, agencies from those countries that are involved in industrial cooperation on the SSJ 100 project and are our partners. Relevant documents signed in 2011 year. It is planned that they will jointly share the risks of the SSJ 100 project and will issue a guarantee for financing the sale, which will allow access to cheap long-term money from the world's largest banks. This will be one of the first such deals in the Russian export supply practice.
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  1. Orel
    Orel 11 June 2013 06: 25 New
    +5
    If you reduce corruption, then perhaps "optimization" will not be needed ...
    1. Normal
      Normal 11 June 2013 06: 40 New
      +7
      Quote: Orel
      If you reduce corruption, then perhaps "optimization" will not be needed ...

      This is not "our" method. Cut workers - please, freeze their wages - like two fingers ..., close kindergartens, factory medical units and sanatoriums - of course! ... but don't touch corruption! She is the purpose and raison d'être of leadership; production is just a process of covering up and justifying schemes, growing the budget and rolling back to the top.
    2. Airman
      Airman 11 June 2013 12: 08 New
      +6
      Quote: Orel
      If you reduce corruption, then perhaps "optimization" will not be needed ...

      Father sells military aircraft, son - civilian, family in a row. Armenians, Armenians - all around are Armenians.
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 16 June 2013 14: 49 New
        +1
        Quote: Povshnik
        Father sells military aircraft, son - civilian, family in a row. Armenians, Armenians - all around are Armenians.



        and still a trivit about losses ...... we offered to buy the entire last Su lineup .... and thanks to this family .. we didn’t sell .... probably the father and son will make up for the losses ... hi .
  2. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 11 June 2013 06: 38 New
    +2
    Of course, to increase production volumes at times.
    Without this, there will be no profitability.
  3. Xmypp
    Xmypp 11 June 2013 06: 49 New
    +4
    "Civil Aircraft Company
    Sukhoi "(GSS) began to implement
    comprehensive action plan for
    reduction of production costs ”... Well, in our country, it’s straightforward to optimize, restructure everything, etc. We know your optimization, in a normal language it means reducing people, and what is more likely to reduce ordinary hard workers. And by the end of the year they will show profit due to reductions. And those who stayed will be thrown functions. What will they do in a year or two, optimize again?
  4. pinecone
    pinecone 11 June 2013 07: 10 New
    15
    I looked at the photo and felt sad. "Senior Vice President"! And how many more "younger" ones. Long and short money, "repricing", effective financial schemes ... They will be optimized in such a way that it will not seem like a little. Drive them all with a filthy broom before it's too late.
    1. Zerstorer
      Zerstorer 11 June 2013 09: 50 New
      +5
      Did you see the name of the senior vice president? Do you still have questions?
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 11 June 2013 11: 22 New
        +4
        From an interview with Pogasyan Sr.: “... It takes time for Airbus to become a real competitor to Boeing to reach a competitive level corresponding to industry leaders.
        The expectations of quick success are somewhat overestimated and exaggerated. We cannot double every year. We have no conditions for this. It takes some patience to reach a fundamentally new level in the segments where today we have lost the market ... "http://www.gazeta.ru/business/2012/08/28/4741509.shtml But Poghosyan- the junior says: “... We plan to reach operating profit next year, and in another year we will achieve positive net profit indicators. But in order to achieve the set goals, we need to dramatically increase the rate of production to 60 aircraft per year and at the same time significantly reduce costs ... "Questions, questions.
      2. Airman
        Airman 11 June 2013 12: 13 New
        +2
        Quote: Zerstorer
        Did you see the name of the senior vice president? Do you still have questions?


        That's right, the first super jet was delivered to Armenia, now Iskander.
  5. Nitarius
    Nitarius 11 June 2013 07: 15 New
    +3
    Quote: Orel
    If you reduce corruption, then perhaps "optimization" will not be needed ...

    There I think it’s necessary - it’s just Managerov to expel All and parasites.
    Creating new ideas is necessary in the Coupe with old experience. And they obviously want to fire the elderly and think that it’s good! nothing good. Generational borrowing should be
  6. Rus_87
    Rus_87 11 June 2013 07: 22 New
    +7
    While these Petrosyans-Poghosyans are at the helm, nothing good will be expected from the domestic aircraft industry. Of course, I have nothing against the Sukhoi, on the contrary, thanks to the elder Poghosyan, the Sukhoi corporation not only did not disappear in the "swamp of the 90s", but also succeeded in many ways. But as the saying goes, you won't be full of "Sukhoi" alone, what these would-be Armenians do with the domestic aircraft industry does not fit into any gate! Yes, even in Soviet times, some design bureaus were, so to speak, "thieves" than the rest (let the Tupolevs not be offended by me), but nevertheless they all solved one great problem, raised our aircraft industry, and oh, how good they were! And then a family of effective, very "effective" managers destroyed all design bureaus, brought them to a state of clinical death, much better DOMESTIC developments (such as TU-334 and TU-204) are openly drowning to please their super-superjets, and they get away with it all. ..it's offensive, very offensive, insulting for the State ...
    1. Avenger711
      Avenger711 11 June 2013 08: 28 New
      -6
      Yes, the Tupolevs raised it, it turned out that nobody needed our passenger aircraft.

      The Tu-334 was a corpse and blaming Pogosyan for the inability of the Tupolevs to make normal planes or sell them, is a sign of a very poor mind.
    2. shpuntik
      shpuntik 11 June 2013 09: 18 New
      0

      Rus_87 Today, 07:22 New
      So far, at the helm, these Petrosyans-Poghosyans will not have to wait for anything good from the domestic aircraft industry.

      Pogosyany pawns in this game ...
      1. Rus_87
        Rus_87 11 June 2013 10: 44 New
        +3
        Pawns nepeshki, I personally deeply parallel! There is a fact that our aviation, especially civil aviation, is in a state of clinical death, and such Petrosyans-Poghosyans-Manturovs-Chubais brought it to this state, the list can be continued indefinitely. Yes, someone may object to me, they say, not everything is as bad as our Su-30-35, MiG-35, PAK FA finally, but gentlemen, these are all developments from the glorious Soviet past, including T-50, nothing new (although I will allow myself to disagree with myself about the T-50 :)) The only new thing that our aviation industry, at the head of the above listed persons, was able to give us, is, I apologize, Supermuperjet ... and everything ... for 20 years ... The meaning of my post is not to say here "how bad everything is with us, about ** alivse polymers, etc.", people on this site know very well without me, the point is that while there are such would-be managers-optimizers, you and I, friends, will not have to expect anything good from our aviation ...
        1. Avenger711
          Avenger711 11 June 2013 12: 43 New
          -2
          What does the Poghosyans have to do with it, if the Tupolev products, which Aeroflot took under the obligation in the free market, turned out to be of no use to anyone? You yourself go swear domestic cars.
    3. evil hamster
      evil hamster 11 June 2013 11: 02 New
      0
      It is very interesting to listen to how the Sukhoi ruined KB Tupolev (see the evil Tupoleff Plaza built by Pogosyan), Yakovlev, Ilyushchin. Not really interesting, do not keep telling the world. It is also extremely interesting who and why drowns the Tu 204, God be with him, from 334 I will not touch his remains, but I still wonder that 204 is also Poghosyan? Tell us how do the SGS compete with the Tu 204?
      1. Rus_87
        Rus_87 11 June 2013 12: 39 New
        +1
        Oooh, yes, you are not in the subject at all, my friend! The entire undercover game of the Poghosyans, and not only them, I will not describe to you here, because this will draw on a separate novel in 3 parts. I will only point you to a hint: did you know that the Honorable Mr. Poghosyan (senior), in addition to the managerial position in Sukhoi Aircraft, also holds the post of general director of the UAC, which is, as it were, responsible for our entire aviation industry, more precisely, for its development. Now think how it is more profitable for Mr. Poghosyan for multibillion-dollar contracts for the construction of aircraft to flow into his own design bureau, or to be poured into "all sorts of there" design bureaus of Ilyushin, Tupolev, Mikoyan, etc.? Right! His "swamp" is nicer, where you can quietly appropriate part of these billions with impunity, so to speak, that's why he added his son to the "grain" position. Therefore, in every possible way they hound "competitors" in the person of the same Tupolevites, healthy competition for these "effective managers" is unprofitable and that's it. And you also read how they hound airlines that do not want to exploit unprofitable, raw and terribly expensive Superpupers, but want to fly on our TUs and ILs! And you here, as a naive one, believe in fairy tales, asking incorrect questions here, how SSZ and Tu-204 compete, without even thinking that SSZ is a NEAR-haul aircraft, and Tu-204 is a MEDIUM-haul aircraft, these aircraft are in different "weight" categories and compete between By definition, they cannot be themselves, they have different niches of cargo and passenger transportation. Although our managers do not "catch up" and destroy this, yes, they destroy any "player" in the air transportation market. But just the same Tu-334 is a direct competitor of the Super, and you can read about how it is drowned and saved in the publications of "Arguments of the Week", read it, do not shed it, you will pick up a lot of new things for yourself, here at least this, for a seed .ru / society / n368 / 218120
        http://argumenti.ru/search?searchid=1953073&text=%D1%82%D1%83-334&web=0 hi
        1. Avenger711
          Avenger711 11 June 2013 12: 57 New
          0
          And you can find out why no one bought the Tu-334 for all the time, everyone took used western trash, but did the SSJ already have 150 firm orders including foreign carriers? Poghosyan crushed them too? Or maybe everything is simple, SSJ is a beautiful modern car, and why did you just get that expensive, no more expensive than classmates, and the Tu-334 is an archaic pile of aluminum? For example, the Tu-334 has a crew of three, when around the world they have already managed two. That is, the company would be forced to pay a salary to an extra crew member. And also the Tu-334 has a heavy glider and it flies like a pig. At one time, the office to them. Tupolev beg for money under great promises, as a result, they spent the loot and received a certificate with which the plane can only be rolled around the airport. Plus, the rear-engine layout is wild archaism, everyone has long understood that the low wing with motors along the wing is optimal for a passenger car. Everyone is already doing this, because it’s easier to maintain, the motors are easily removed from the stream of rubbish from the front wheel and they suck in nothing but midges, the plane will not spontaneously land on its tail. Read about IL-62 at your leisure as he suffered with his four engines in the tail.
          1. Rus_87
            Rus_87 11 June 2013 13: 33 New
            +3
            Well, if you really want to think that the SSJ is a grand plane, think! It is more rational to speak on such topics with Vaf, SSI! So let me take my leave hi
            PS
            And the materials, the links to which I gave above, I look you have not read ... sorry ... sorry ...
            1. Avenger711
              Avenger711 11 June 2013 15: 33 New
              -2
              And Vaf is generally a storyteller, or even worse, an experienced saboteur saboteur who knows how to drive half the truth.

              You will deny that SSJ is commercially successful and sold, including to foreign customers?
        2. evil hamster
          evil hamster 11 June 2013 16: 10 New
          -1
          Blah blah blah. Moga bukaf and reasoning of factology 0,0. At the same time, the captain obviously earns half the rate apparently. I asked very specific questions, and in response received a lot of water.
          Quote: Avenger711
          for the sake of their superpupgettes, much better DOMESTIC developments (such as TU-334 and TU-204) are drowned in the open
          - this is YOUR phrase and it is YOU who assume that someone is "drowning" a Tu204, an aircraft of a different class, to please the Superjet, so no need to wag the bottom point and attribute to me that I don't understand there. let us be specific about how and who "drowns" the Tu 204. Point by point.
          1. Rus_87
            Rus_87 12 June 2013 07: 21 New
            +3
            You don’t understand the Russian language at all, with clarity you see big problems, still along with your eyesight! For the third time I say: READ ARTICLES, WHICH LINKS I HAVE ABOVE ABOUT, THERE ARE ALL DETAILED, SPECIALLY FOR SUCH AS YOU NAIVE IN PINK GLASSES, WHO BELIEVE THAT CJ REALLY SUPER.
            1. evil hamster
              evil hamster 12 June 2013 12: 02 New
              -3
              It’s you have trouble reading what they write to you. If you think that a lot of caps make your speech more convincing, then you are mistaken. And yet, yes, the "arguments of the week" is an awesome authoritative source, in fact, it becomes clear where this stream of consciousness came from that you threw out on us here. I'm afraid a meaningful conversation will not work out with you, since you have such "sources" of knowledge.
  7. Aucraig
    Aucraig 11 June 2013 07: 30 New
    +8
    GSS Senior Vice President Artem Poghosyan. At this age, and already the SENIOR Vice President! Is it because genius? Or because - Poghosyan?
  8. AK-47
    AK-47 11 June 2013 07: 31 New
    +1
    GSS Senior Vice President Artem Poghosyan ...

    Sukhoi Civil Aircraft has big problems.
  9. andrey903
    andrey903 11 June 2013 07: 51 New
    +5
    Sukhoi has become a purely Armenian family business, nothing good will come of it. Poghosyans are clearly ready to slip to the west with secrets and money
    1. Avenger711
      Avenger711 11 June 2013 08: 29 New
      -9
      They could take off for a long time, but here they are busy with useful work, and you only water them in your net, although you would be the first to rush to the west, give you a million.
      1. Airman
        Airman 11 June 2013 12: 22 New
        +2
        Quote: Avenger711
        They could take off for a long time, but here they are busy with useful work, and you only water them in your net, although you would be the first to rush to the west, give you a million.


        Poghosyan is not an aircraft designer, he is a manager, like a stool, when he squeezes everything out of the company, he will surely fall down. Will create its own design bureau, the aircraft will be called PO-2.
        1. Avenger711
          Avenger711 11 June 2013 12: 58 New
          -2
          So far, the company is developing itself and does not ask for handouts.
  10. stpv1
    stpv1 11 June 2013 08: 12 New
    +7
    At any state-owned enterprise, be it Rostelecom, Russian Railways, Gazprom, Russian Agricultural Bank, etc., etc. such vice presidents are sitting here and they are in charge of the country, while not understanding anything in the work of companies. And everywhere with us, Putin’s management system is rotten
    1. Constantine
      Constantine 16 August 2013 11: 33 New
      -1
      Quote: stpv1
      At any state-owned enterprise, be it Rostelecom, Russian Railways, Gazprom, Russian Agricultural Bank, etc., etc. such vice presidents are sitting here and they are in charge of the country, while not understanding anything in the work of companies. And everywhere with us, Putin’s management system is rotten


      Uncle, judging by your comments, your brain is rotten from the "cococo" of your leader - Navalny. hi
      1. The comment was deleted.
        1. Constantine
          Constantine 16 August 2013 13: 20 New
          -1
          Quote: Oskar
          I walked through your Constantine comments, there is one everywhere, even a word of negative about the GDP and its system means an agent of the State Department and Navalny's lackey. Everything is clear with you. "Cococo" - your favorite word, cockerel?)))


          What are you all the same)) What are the arguments that the lexicon wassat You read all my comments. Work your bread wink
          1. Oskar
            Oskar 16 August 2013 13: 35 New
            -1
            And you are just clones))) But it is impossible to read your comments, it hurts a lot of them. A whole department is scribbling you :))) Where can I keep up.))
  11. sams
    sams 11 June 2013 08: 42 New
    +6
    GSS Senior Vice President Artem Poghosyan intends to use the full potential of export credit agencies

    As already got these thieves managers !!!
  12. shpuntik
    shpuntik 11 June 2013 10: 44 New
    +1
    There are 100 million, there are 20 million state support, they have my taxes. Is the horse feed?
    I would close my eyes to the clan approach in the former general, recently, aviation industry, if the younger Poghosyan sets up a conveyor belt in Komsomolsk like a Boeing.
    In my opinion, there is some kind of agreement on wide-body aircraft ... Backstage. We stopped talking about them. The MS-21, short-medium-haul, is hovering around somewhere. Even the names of the old design bureaus are not used, so that the rumor would probably not cut ... There are no words, only thoughts. Is there a way out, gentlemen, from this peak?
    Here it is necessary to build such, yesterday:
    IL-86 is the first domestic wide-body passenger aircraft. The liner was developed by Ilyushin design bureau in the 1970s for operation on busy airlines between the largest cities of the Soviet Union. Commercial operation of the IL-86 began in 1980, mass production continued from 1980 to 1991. During this period, 103 aircraft were produced, of which 3 were exported to China. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, liners were used in Russia, Armenia, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan.IL-86 is the first domestic wide-body passenger aircraft. The liner was developed by Ilyushin design bureau in the 1970s for operation on busy airlines between the largest cities of the Soviet Union. Commercial operation of the IL-86 began in 1980, mass production continued from 1980 to 1991. During this period, 103 aircraft were produced, of which 3 were exported to China. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, liners were used in Russia, Armenia, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan.
    1. evil hamster
      evil hamster 11 June 2013 11: 05 New
      -1
      Weights need to be lifted gradually as muscle mass builds up, otherwise you will gnaw the navel.
      1. Airman
        Airman 11 June 2013 12: 28 New
        +4
        Quote: evil hamster
        Weights need to be lifted gradually as muscle mass builds up, otherwise you will gnaw the navel.


        Following your theory, we would fly into space in the year 80 in the year.
        1. evil hamster
          evil hamster 11 June 2013 16: 23 New
          +1
          There is no need to substitute concepts; a scientific expedition into space and serial production of a main airliner for the purpose of sale are essentially different things. Objectively, there are currently no financial or production resources to create a commercially successful backbone. Of course, we can quickly do something and give it out to the mountain, so the type we produce is proud of the country. But the goal of creating the UAC and the general existence of the aviation industry is mass production and sale of aircraft, and not the raising of the country's prestige and the joy of the urapatriotic prides (I do not like this word, but here is the topic) of the masses. It’s still not clear with MS21 to create a competitor for the dreamliner and it will still take a lot of resources and time, it’s just silly, because this project will cost, in every sense, much more than MS21, as a result of the tool we’ll spread it with a thin layer, and the result not get it.
          1. shpuntik
            shpuntik 11 June 2013 21: 23 New
            +1
            evil hamster (1) Today, 16:23 ↑

            "Objectively, now there are no financial or production resources to create a commercially successful backbone." ... "

            Dmitry, what prevents the IL-86, IL-62, with the new PS-90A engines, for domestic traffic? From Petropavlosk-Kamchatsky to Moscow you can’t reach the MS-21 either, not like the SuperJet.
            "Taking on the creation of a competitor to the dreamliner, while it is still not clear with the MC21, it will still take a lot of resources and time, it's just stupid ..."

            Dmitry, who will sell titanium frames to a competitor? We. Because in the 90s they signed a contract with Boeing. And the department of designers in Moscow works for them. War, in a word. It's time to go on the counterattack, and the commander on Twitter posts posts ...
            Here they are, darlings, waiting in the wings:
            On the territory of this sump were filmed episodes for the films "The Sum of All Fears" (2002) and "Jarhead" (2003)

            In the sump in Victorville, California, there are not only decommissioned civilian aircraft, but also the development of civilian and military aircraft, which were discontinued due to cutbacks in funding or their development programs were found to be ineffective.
            1. evil hamster
              evil hamster 12 June 2013 01: 50 New
              0
              Quote: shpuntik
              Dmitry, what prevents the IL-86, IL-62, with the new PS-90A engines, for domestic traffic? From Petropavlosk-Kamchatsky to Moscow you can’t reach the MS-21 either, not like the SuperJet.

              The novel problem is that neither IL86 nor even IL62 will save the installation of new engines, they will not become economical modern aircraft from this - the engine is only part of the economy of the aircraft, but not all. Your recipe makes sense in a planned economy, but with us not Planned Economy. I don’t want to take the conversation aside, I won’t discuss about the correctness or not of the country's economic policy in general, this is a separate issue that goes far beyond the scope of the issue under discussion. In fact, we live in a quasi-market economy and most AKs in the country are private and you won’t be forced to buy a plane if they don’t like it.
              Quote: shpuntik
              Dmitry, who will sell titanium frames to a competitor?
              They buy titanium products from us because they are cheaper and better (thanks to the USSR, I invested very seriously in due time). But it is a mistake to think that they cannot do them themselves.
    2. Avenger711
      Avenger711 11 June 2013 15: 30 New
      +1
      Because there are no more old design bureaus, or perished, or together do.
  13. MilaPhone
    MilaPhone 11 June 2013 11: 33 New
    -5
    Okay, the boy only took up the post in March, maybe he can bring something new to bring benefits.
    Let's wait.
  14. cartridge
    cartridge 11 June 2013 12: 29 New
    +3
    Something a lot of Poghosyan settled under the guise of Sukhoi ...