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Baltops-2013: against whom are we learning?

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Baltops-2013: against whom are we learning?



Balts and Poles are preparing for the largest NATO naval military exercises called Baltops 2013. They will go from 7 to 10 June in the Baltic Sea. According to LETA, in these large-scale exercises will participate 35 warships from thirteen countries. On these days and in the next few days, Latvian residents and tourists will be able to look at warships: Latvian, Swedish, Finnish, Danish.

Polish resource gdyniaturystyczna.pl reports nearly 30 ships from twelve countries and recalls that the Baltops naval exercises have been held in the Baltic Sea since 1972.

Initially, these were exercises in which NATO forces participated. In 1993, new participants were invited from the states of the former Eastern bloc, including Poland. Since then, these maneuvers have been organized under the Partnership for Peace program.

The exercise scenario this year is built on a fictional situation, and the action takes place in fictional countries. There was a local crisis at sea and on land. The situation led to the adoption of a resolution by the United Nations. Its result should be the restoration of peace and stability in the region. Around the disputed territories supposedly created a security zone, inaccessible for shipping. UN forces are authorized to take appropriate measures, including to prevent access by terrorists, as well as to carry out actions to enforce peace.

Alexander Novik ("Russian peacemaker") indicates that the Baltops-2013 exercises will involve 32 surface ships, two submarines, 20 aircraft and tactical and anti-submarine helicopters aviation NATO countries. The observer believes that since during the maneuvers, under the pretext of solving the tasks of preparing for peacekeeping, it is planned to actually work out the elements of the classical naval operation in the vicinity of Russian borders, this objectively reduces the security of Russia on its western borders. According to experts, NATO exercises, as a rule, are united by a single idea of ​​creating an alliance strike force, transferring it to the Baltic countries by sea and deploying them to designated areas, closer to Russian borders.

The author asks a question: what kind of peacekeeping operation is in the Baltic? Who can it be directed against?

Well, in the west it is directly said: against a fictional opponent from a fictional country. And the situation is also fictional. It is not only the UN that is invented, which, like in the good old days, will dance to the tune of NATO, pointing at opponents that prevent blood from building all over the world to build peace on the globe.

Comrade Novik also recalls that the Baltops maneuvers will be held simultaneously with the NATO exercise Saber Strike 2013, which will be a logical continuation of the verification of the organization of the deployment of the reinforcement forces of the NATO armed forces by sea and their combat use on the territory of the Baltic States begun in 2012. More than 1 thousand 200 people from the US, Lithuanian, Latvian, Estonian, Finnish forces, the German-Danish-Polish Army Rapid Response Corps and NATO experts will take part in these exercises, the author of the material writes.

Let us clarify the numbers.

The Saber strike 2013 (Saber Strike) exercise, which began on June 3 in the Baltic countries (end date - 14 June), involves 1800 troops from Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, the USA, the United Kingdom, the Northeast NATO Corps. as well as Finland, which is not a member of NATO. The purpose of the exercise declared the preparation of parts for interaction in joint operations, transfers Interfax.

The main headquarters of the exercise is located in Lithuania. In Latvia (at the Adazhi range) it is planned to work out the interaction of land units and subunits. In Estonia, NATO provides exercises for NATO aircraft, as well as military personnel of the Northeast NATO Corps.

The Estonian Air Force is assigned the task of receiving aircraft and their ground support. The Estonian Air Operations Center manages flights in Estonian and Latvian airspace.

Rosbalt reminds that on May 24, two Polish amphibious assault ships with military equipment and equipment arrived at the South Port of Paldiski (northwestern Estonia). On board these ships - about 100 tons of military cargo for training. Headquarters equipment belongs to the command of the multinational NATO Corps Northeast - Multinational Corps Northeast (MNC NE), located in Szczecin (Poland). It is also reported that for the exercises, US Air Force units were involved in A-10 fighter jets and with KC-135 tanker aircraft.

Resource rus.err.ee cites material Evgenia Savina (“Current Camera”), briefly covering the planned practical part of the exercises.

According to Lieutenant Colonel Tiit Palyak, the person responsible for planning the Saber Strike exercises, the practical part of the exercises will be held in Latvia. The military units of different countries will not meet face to face very often: the fact is that the exercises will mostly be based on computer simulations.

“The technique has reached the point that simulation exercises allow headquarters to be located at different points, while the battlefield is one - virtual,” explains Palac.

Alexander Novik ("Russian peacemaker") believes that during the Saber Strike 2013 and Baltops 2013 exercises, elements of the operation at the European theater of action with the transfer of US and NATO troops to the territory of the Baltic countries and their deployment in the designated areas near the Russian borders will be worked out. Assessing the composition of participants and the target orientation of these exercises, the analyst assumes that the NATO leadership, in the event of a worsening of the situation, is considering the Baltic Sea zone as a region of the formation of a powerful assault force for action in the east.

What, strictly speaking, obviously and does not require special arguments: just look at the map.

Observed and translated by Oleg Chuvakin
- especially for topwar.ru
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 6 June 2013 08: 38 New
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    “Since then, these maneuvers have been organized as part of the Partnership for Peace program.”

    The name of the program now sounds like black humor.
    1. Skarte
      Skarte 6 June 2013 08: 50 New
      +2
      Duc tradition they have, all programs and names with deep sarcasm "call" ... With humor guys, with black))))) am
      1. Orel
        Orel 6 June 2013 09: 48 New
        +1
        WE WILL STRENGTHEN OUR BALTIC Navy FOR THE PEACE !!! So that not so much NATO spreads "democracy".
        1. old man54
          old man54 6 June 2013 21: 47 New
          +3
          do not reinforce it, DKBF! It is necessary to strengthen and develop coastal aviation of at least the fleet, even the ground-based ISA, very much, + strengthen coastal systems of anti-ship missiles and receiver artillery. The submarine fleet must have strong, but low-tonnage submarines. And NK in the case of such a mess in the Baltic still have to hide on the Navy, and you’ll hide the hell, they’ll drown anyway :(
      2. The comment was deleted.
    2. densyaophyng
      densyaophyng 6 June 2013 10: 06 New
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      By the way. Let me remind you the story. Poles and Lithuanians fought country with country! Really reconciled? Then beware of the Poles! The Lithuanian army is still the same as in 1939.
      In 1939, after the defeat of Poland, Lithuanian tanks of the 2nd and 3rd companies entered Vilnius, freed from the Poles. Later, the tanks were deployed at the foot of the mountain of the castle of Gedeminos. Tankers took the place of the Poles - before the war there was the 3rd sapper battalion of the Polish Army. [b] In the former Polish territory, Lithuanian tankers suffered the greatest losses in their history. And without a single shot of the enemy.[/ b] November 7, 1939, when someone inadvertently spilled burning kerosene oil, a fire broke out in the hangars. 7 or 8 tanks were completely destroyed by fire (data vary), another 2 - 3 were seriously damaged.

      Lithuanian tanks entered Vilna in 1939.
      1. old man54
        old man54 6 June 2013 21: 55 New
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        Quote: densyaophyng
        By the way. Let me remind you the story. Poles and Lithuanians fought country with country! Really reconciled? Then beware of the Poles! The Lithuanian army is still the same as in 1939.

        as far as I know the topic, then the eastern part of Lithuania, together with Vilnius, after tearing up the western territories of tsarist Russia at the end of the 1st MV, brazenly and not having any rights, contrary to the decision of the League of Nations, Poland captured the dictator Pilslutsky, stupidly referring to the fact that their Polish general came out of Warsaw’s subordination would not fulfill the order to withdraw troops from the Lithuanian lands. :)) And in 1939, it seems like Stalin himself gave these lands to the Lithuanians. Hoya ... where is she really that? :)
    3. honest jew
      honest jew 6 June 2013 15: 39 New
      -7
      I see nothing wrong with that! Countries conduct exercises, interact, gain experience. After all, when Russia conducts exercises with China, India, the CIS countries, no one shouts that this is preparation for an invasion of the West or America ... this is also an exchange of experience and verification of military training of military personnel. alarmists always escalate !!!!
      1. 4fedor1
        4fedor1 6 June 2013 21: 32 New
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        let them spend them somewhere off the coast of England or the states.
        1. Pamir210
          Pamir210 22 June 2013 11: 28 New
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          And why should the Swedes and Finns conduct exercises near the US coast?
          Everyone learns to fight where he lives.
      2. old man54
        old man54 6 June 2013 21: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: honest Jew
        I see nothing wrong with that! Countries conduct exercises interact, gain experience.

        and let us, Russia, conduct exercises with China and Iran off the coast of Syria, for example, what can you say, dear? :))
        1. F117
          F117 8 June 2013 20: 41 New
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          Better still with Venezuela and Cuba and somewhere in the Gulf of Mexico. Call the teachings some “peaceful” word. And repel the attacks of the "virtual" northern adversary. It is interesting to see the reaction of the Democrats
      3. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 6 June 2013 23: 36 New
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        Quote: honest Jew
        I see nothing wrong with that! Countries conduct exercises, interact, gain experience. After all, when Russia conducts exercises with China, India, the CIS countries, no one shouts that this is preparation for an invasion of the West or America ... this is also an exchange of experience and verification of military training of military personnel. alarmists always escalate !!!!

        So no one is hysterical. Let them work it out for themselves. The Balts and Poles are hurt just about our teachings.
    4. kosmos44
      kosmos44 7 June 2013 06: 07 New
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      Quote: Vladimirets
      Partnership for Peace


      Well, after they legalized same-sex marriage, happiness to them in family life! laughing
  2. Dima190579
    Dima190579 6 June 2013 08: 51 New
    +3
    Apparently they decided to show that not only Russia can scare civilized countries with sudden checks. "There are so many noble people sobered up with fear at once."
  3. Wedmak
    Wedmak 6 June 2013 08: 54 New
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    It is also reported that the U.S. Air Force units were involved in the exercises on A-10 fighters and KC-135 refueling aircraft.

    Since when has the A-10 fighter been with us? And why are there refueling planes - whom to refuel?
    In general, I am surprised that Poland even has landing ships ...
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 6 June 2013 10: 12 New
      +3
      Quote: Wedmak
      In general, I am surprised that Poland even has landing ships ...

      Surprisingly, of course, Poland could build ships of this class (and built it) as a member of the Warsaw Treaty. The shipbuilding industry in Poland experienced a significant upsurge in the TOT period, fueled by orders from the USSR for the construction of ships of various classes. It is possible that Polish shipyards are now capable of producing such ships (given the size of the military budget of this republic and financial injections from NATO).
      1. Sokol peruna
        Sokol peruna 6 June 2013 10: 46 New
        +2
        At the time of the collapse of the Warsaw Pact organization, there were about 25 KFOR in the Polish Navy. Now there are 5 KFORs, etc. 767, built in 1989-1991.
      2. old man54
        old man54 6 June 2013 21: 57 New
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        it is understood that you have described it, I agree, but ... why should the pshekals land troops, and actually where? How do these landings fit into their national geopolitical doctrine then? This is very interesting!
    2. Pamir210
      Pamir210 22 June 2013 11: 30 New
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      Moreover. Many of our landing ships were built in Poland and the GDR.
      Helped the Allies to develop their shipbuilding.
  4. IRBIS
    IRBIS 6 June 2013 08: 55 New
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    Odeg, good morning! Russia has also been participating in these exercises continuously since the end of the 90's. I personally participated in them twice, I really liked it. There are interesting points. Our ships and marines are the highlight of these exercises, we are almost always entrusted with difficult tasks from the NATO point of view. And always ours fulfill them with brilliance. This is a landing on the coast in conditions of great excitement, when everyone else abandoned such an idea, and acting in conditions of complete isolation without support and supply. They do not make any special secrets from us, everyone is invited to meetings absolutely, everything is extremely transparent. Therefore, the opinion of the “expert” is very erroneous and far-fetched.
    1. Mart
      6 June 2013 09: 04 New
      +1
      Quote: IRBIS
      Good morning, good morning! Russia also participates in these exercises constantly since the end of the 90's.

      Good afternoon, Alexander! Comment right, but opinions have to be different in the reviews to give. And one more thing. This year, the media about the "Baltops" almost do not write. It is not heard that we were going to participate there. Everything flows, everything changes...
    2. 1976AG
      1976AG 6 June 2013 10: 07 New
      +7
      Who are we learning against? Who are we friends against? Already tired of these stupid questions and far-fetched conclusions. If there is an army, it must be able to fight, which means that doctrines are needed. So someone needs to be appointed a conditional opponent. Who? Well, really Finland or Sweden? Absurd! When we conduct the exercises, we are not Belarus or Uzbekistan as the enemy. It’s practical to look at things.
    3. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 6 June 2013 13: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: IRBIS
      Our ships and marines are the highlight of these exercises, we are almost always entrusted with difficult tasks from the NATO point of view.
      good

      The photo is true with the Pacific Fleet.
  5. Seraph
    Seraph 6 June 2013 09: 00 New
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    The Swedes were already masters of the Baltic. Once it almost became a "German lake". To know that the time has come for NATO to rake ...
  6. serjant4
    serjant4 6 June 2013 09: 10 New
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    BaltOpus 2013 in a word ...
  7. cartridge
    cartridge 6 June 2013 09: 34 New
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    If you deploy two motorized rifle divisions on the Baltic OH instead of the one motorized rifle brigade there, then you can forget about the problems associated with the Baltic limitrophs being part of NATO for many years to come.
  8. si8452
    si8452 6 June 2013 09: 35 New
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    “The technique has reached the point that simulation exercises allow headquarters to be at different points, while one battlefield is virtual”
    .
    Could in this case, in general, all the steps on computers shoot, but disperse)))
  9. Orel
    Orel 6 June 2013 09: 47 New
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    Quote: Skarte
    “Since then, these maneuvers have been organized as part of the Partnership for Peace program.”


    Here we are "FOR THE PEACE" and we need to strengthen the Baltic Fleet in every way, and now it is only a shadow of the Baltic Fleet of the USSR.
  10. Ragnarek
    Ragnarek 6 June 2013 10: 02 New
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    against whom are they studying? - no one really hides. if you read the Polish articles-they directly say that they are preparing for war with Russia
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 6 June 2013 10: 17 New
      +2
      Yes, the Poles have paranoia because of hatred of Russia. That's just not them x .. nothing depends and they know it. From that even more furious.
      1. DEfindER
        DEfindER 6 June 2013 10: 51 New
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        Quote: Ragnarek
        against whom are they studying? - no one really hides. if you read the Polish articles-they directly say that they are preparing for war with Russia

        Only in the event of such a war, the Poles are used as cannon fodder, but we would have to keep in mind that the territory of the Baltic states will definitely be used to create a strike force, and for this we need to always keep these mongers at gunpoint, it’s not in vain that the Iskanders are on duty .. It's a pity our fellow citizens (non-citizens) of the Baltic states, they will find themselves under the same blow.
        1. Jasper999
          Jasper999 6 June 2013 11: 45 New
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          In the event of an impending war, the territory of the Baltic states is "automatically", i.e. at gunpoint, as in 1940, “voluntarily” will join the territory of Russia, so I personally am not sure that “the territory of the Baltic states will definitely be used to create an attack group”, they won’t have time ...
          1. DEfindER
            DEfindER 6 June 2013 17: 14 New
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            Quote: Jasper999
            therefore, I’m personally not sure that “the territory of the Baltic states will be unambiguously used to create a strike force,” they won’t have time ...

            They already do this under the guise of exercises, we can only, under the guise of exercises, strengthen the northwestern direction ..
        2. VAF
          VAF 6 June 2013 14: 55 New
          +2
          Quote: DEfindER
          but we should keep in mind that the territory of the Baltic states will definitely be used to create a strike force


          Write everything right, +! But to whom is it for us? belay

          Maybe you mean IM? In terms of tandem? So they don’t need it, because all that could be dispersed, in the sense of "successfully" re-reforming ", they did it.
          Nothing is left .. neither Chernyakhovsk, nor Smuravyovo, nor Lodeynoy field, but Soltsov ... the only active point is the factory in Pushkin and Bessovets ... seven miles on the map!
          I will not write about airplanes only the Su-27P (PD) and quite a bit of the Su-27S (in Besovets) and in Chkalovsk 10-su-27P (PD) and 2-a Su-27SM and ... everything crying
          1. old man54
            old man54 6 June 2013 22: 09 New
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            Hello, hello. But what, doesn’t the MA regiment on Su-24 exist in Chkalovsk (Kaliningrad) ??? It seems to be!
        3. old man54
          old man54 6 June 2013 22: 06 New
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          I don’t think that after 65 years something has changed in the Polish mentality! If they fled from Hitler without looking back to Romania in 1939, having more than 2 times the superiority of their army over the German, then what is now heroic to expect from them? Of course, they sprinkle their saliva with poisonous, but I would not be very afraid of them! :) Cowards!
    2. Sochi
      Sochi 6 June 2013 10: 42 New
      +1
      The incurable disease of Rzeczpospolita - from mozh to mozh ... Dap once ruptured? and every time a bummer, well, it’s not up to them that it is necessary to be treated. And in general, the country is unlucky, so that it didn’t fight in Europe, everyone considered it his duty to hang the Poles between times ... the Germans fucked us with Poles, we went along with the Poles ... and so on.
  11. shamil
    shamil 6 June 2013 10: 20 New
    +1
    soon, suddenly, in alarm, the Ob will show the teachings and also on working out the counteraction to terrorism. Demonstration of power! Scare all the fish
  12. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 6 June 2013 11: 28 New
    +1
    Partnership in geyrop can now be only sexual, they in Europe cannot protect themselves from homosexuals and Arabs, where else can they protect democracy.
  13. dc120mm
    dc120mm 6 June 2013 11: 35 New
    -1
    Against whom can she be directed?

    Not skem will be directed, do nada money wink
  14. seller trucks
    seller trucks 6 June 2013 11: 39 New
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    The author asks a question: what kind of peacekeeping operation is in the Baltic? Who can it be directed against?


    the author you asked stupid questions. everyone knows that against world terrorism. recently there were explosions at the Boston marathon, "organized" by "Chechen" terrorists, "Chechnya in Russia ..... well, are you small or something, on the fingers to explain.
  15. knn54
    knn54 6 June 2013 11: 57 New
    +1
    - On board these ships - about 100 tons of military cargo for exercises
    From year to year, NATO is improving its delivery methods and armament / military equipment volumes to the Baltic region.
    - For the exercises, the US Air Force units were involved in A-10 fighters and with KC-135 refueling aircraft.
    A10 attack aircraft, at one time specialized as an “anti-tank” aircraft.
    - considers the Baltic Sea Area as the area of ​​formation of a powerful strike force group for operations in the eastern direction.
    But the tantrum against Russia continues regarding the militarization of the Kaliningrad region.
    PS Hitler somehow "gave a tooth" that the Wehrmacht divisions rest on Polish territory before the impending war with Great Britain ...
  16. profcom77
    profcom77 6 June 2013 12: 05 New
    -2
    Two IL-38 anti-submarine aircraft of the Pacific Fleet naval aviation caused the suspension of joint US and Japanese military exercises in the Sea of ​​Japan. Let's try here too?
    1. black_eagle
      black_eagle 6 June 2013 12: 43 New
      0
      Then it’s better if, among their travel order, something pops up briefly and back, and preferably with sizes larger, here they are, all together at the back and spoil their pea jackets
    2. old man54
      old man54 6 June 2013 22: 12 New
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      and in more detail? :)
  17. individual
    individual 6 June 2013 12: 24 New
    -2
    This whole Baltic coven is organized to divert Russian resources from the Middle East.
    For self-affirmation and raising tonus Poland and the Baltic states in a squeak that they are still alive.
  18. Marconi41
    Marconi41 6 June 2013 14: 58 New
    +2
    These exercises have been held for many years. And to hell with them! He who has an army is obliged to carry out exercises. And I think there is no need to give them some kind of polit. background! You need to score on it - and do not forget to trace!
    1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
      NOBODY EXCEPT US 6 June 2013 23: 39 New
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      To be precise, they have been held for 41 years already, the fact is that 41 years ago the parents of some local strategists went to nursery themselves, so this nervous reaction can be traced, fear is called, in respectable adults who have seen life, not one muscle twitched ... ..
  19. AndreyAB
    AndreyAB 6 June 2013 15: 57 New
    0
    And when the world came from the west of the enlightened one to Russia, there was always only war and death, and always with return, their life and history did not teach anything, and Germany had to enter the customs union with Russia a long time ago, the prospects were much greater.
    1. DEfindER
      DEfindER 6 June 2013 17: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: AndreyAB
      and it’s time for Germany to join the customs union with Russia, the prospects are much greater.

      At one time, the GDR was the most loyal country to the USSR of all East European countries. So far, Gorbachev didn’t give it in exchange for Bush’s promise not to expand NATO .. ​​and that, as a result, is worthless to any promises of the West.
    2. sedoj
      sedoj 6 June 2013 23: 19 New
      +2
      Quote: AndreyAB
      , and it’s time for Germany to join the customs union with Russia,

      No matter how independent Germany seemed, from the time of the Second World War it has been dancing to the tune of the United States. She is given some kind of freethinking, but nothing more. All pity management stretch to Washington. The path of movement is slightly wider than that of other countries, but anyway: step to the left, step to the right - immediately shout from the State Department. NATO is just one of the levers of governing Europe.
    3. hiocraib
      hiocraib 7 June 2013 10: 16 New
      0
      Quote: AndreyAB
      and it’s time for Germany to join the customs union with Russia, the prospects are much greater.

      Germans RosPil do not understand ...

      they even have a joke type: why don't German policemen take bribes? because they are together!

      so somehow ...
  20. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 6 June 2013 23: 29 New
    +1
    Naive guys. Yes, there will be nowhere to land a landing in the event of a war with Russia. For there will be no Baltic countries, as well as the landing itself ... Yes, and a lot that will not be ... God forbid ...
  21. bobik05
    bobik05 7 June 2013 05: 14 New
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    READ: Polske gonorove! - 1. http://www.proza.ru/2012/11/05/262.
  22. hiocraib
    hiocraib 7 June 2013 10: 15 New
    0
    Quote: AndreyAB
    and it’s time for Germany to join the customs union with Russia, the prospects are much greater.

    Germans RosPil do not understand ...

    they even have a joke type: why don't German policemen take bribes? because they are together!

    so somehow ...