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Bradley Manning: "Live in peace with yourself"

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On June 3, Private First Class Bradley Manning, the WikiLeaks main informant, appeared before a military court in Maryland. According to the prosecution, in 2009-2010. Manning provided thousands of copies of diplomatic dispatches and 250 with thousands of military reports on the situation in Afghanistan and Iraq to the named site 500. "BBC" recalls that he pleaded guilty to the 10 of the 22 counts. Meanwhile, the private still rejects the most terrible point called "Aiding the enemy." Pacifists and supporters of Manning and WikiLeaks believe that the soldier is being punished for freedom of speech: after all, he exposed the crimes of the American military. The White House believes that he betrayed the interests of the state. Both are absolutely true.

“So who is he - Bradley Manning? - are wondering on the channel "Euronews". - A vulnerable, unbalanced young man who is not responsible for his actions, as described by him alone, or, on the contrary, he who understood well what he was doing and what consequences this could have, but wanted, in his own words, to provoke a debate about the actions of the American army and the foreign policy of their country to live in peace with themselves? "

The motivation of the soldier was as follows: he handed over a CD of documents for publication on the site because American citizens, he believed, have every right to know about the arbitrariness of the American military in Iraq and Afghanistan.

TV channel correspondent "RT" Marina Portnaya reports that, according to the materials of the prosecution, even Osama bin Laden used the data transmitted by Manning to the WikiLeaks website. As for the founder of the site, Julian Assange, who now lives at the Ecuadorian embassy in the UK, he noted that the emergence of a precedent with a trial and subsequent punishment would entail the threat of the death penalty to any soldier, and journalists can easily be enrolled as “accomplices of the enemy”.

Hundreds of Americans held a demonstration in support of Manning. At the US military base Fort Meade, where the trial is being held, on June 2 gathered from 450 to 700 demonstrators. They chanted the slogan “Freedom to Bradley Manning,” and held in their hands posters with the words “My hero” and “Americans have the right to know.” The next day the action continued.

There are two main versions of what prompted Manning to publish classified material.

According to the RIA News" With reference to CNN, Manning’s lawyer, David Coombs, said that his client wanted to fight in Iraq, but his views on the war changed one incident: a car full of peaceful Iraqi citizens exploded on a land mine, giving way to a convoy of US military. After this explosion, he began to collect classified information, believing that it would be better if it became public.

Prosecutor Joe Morrow, however, believes that ordinary vanity is to blame for everything: “He used the service in the army to achieve fame, which he strenuously sought.”

Anna Malrayn ("Christian Science Monitor") приводит another version of the "push" to transfer sensitive data.

A shift in Manning’s mind occurred during a mission to Iraq in 2010. In those days he served as an intelligence analyst. An ordinary first-class soldier watched a video stored in a US military database and saw two pilots shoot civilians. Among them were children and two reporters from Reuters.

In February, 2013, at the pre-trial meeting, Manning read out his own statement, in which he noted that he was most worried about the loss of innocent civilians. He was shocked by the jokes exchanged by American military pilots.

They called for the mortally wounded civilian, who was trying to crawl to the shelter, "to take into weaponSo they can shoot him. When the pilots realized that they had killed the children by shooting the van whose driver was trying to save the reporters, they said: “Well, you are to blame yourself, you shouldn’t have to drag the children into the battle.”

In accordance with the US law on free access to information, Reuters Agency sent a request to show the video to the US Central Command. But they answered from there: “Perhaps this video no longer exists.” Another representative of the US Army said that, in the opinion of the Central Command, the video was not genuine.

It was then that Private Manning felt the need to share what he knows with other people, and do it through WikiLeaks. And shared, copying on mini-disks everything that had a “secret” neck.

Now, if Manning is found guilty under an article on the disclosure of state secrets, he can “shine” a period of twenty years. But this is only one of the articles in which he himself pleaded guilty. If he is "shot down" from all the 22 points of the prosecution and accused of maliciously complicity with the enemies of the state, he will sit for life. He is not executed in the electric chair: the procurator has already stated that she will not demand this. (By the way, it is not surprising: in this bustling trial, the death penalty would have made an extremely unpleasant impression on the world community). The Western press writes that Manning’s defenders in court cannot prove his innocence through “naivety,” “good intentions,” “ideals,” “public good,” and other vague arguments.

Evgeny Aronov ("Radio Liberty") cites the opinion of Tara Gelfman, a professor of law at the University of New York in Syracuse, who believes that such arguments will not affect the court decision:

“It is highly doubtful, since the legal proceedings are not based on ideological arguments, but only on the law and on concrete facts. In practice, it will be extremely difficult for lawyers to prove that Manning did not assist the enemy and did it absolutely consciously. According to the law, he is guilty of aiding, even if the information "merged" with him did not cause actual damage to America, but only could this do. Moreover, the defendant might not have known how this information will be used against the United States; to prove the guilt it is enough to show that he could not help but understand that in some way it could be used to the detriment of the country he served. ”


Nevertheless, the professor believes, ideological arguments remain in the arsenal of remedies. After all, Manning wanted to open his eyes to society on what is happening in Iraq and Afghanistan, so that it would put pressure on the government: the vicious foreign policy must be stopped.

There are other reasons, says Tara Gelfman. Manning was not fully aware of what he was doing: he suffered from bouts of anxiety and depression. Finally, he was gay, which means he was overwhelmed by the need to hide his sexual orientation from his superiors and his comrades. The professor believes that he was not quite sane.

Tara Gelfman recognizes all these arguments as shaky. But nothing better, she said, for protection, probably not.

Anna Malrayn in her article приводит opinion on the judicial argumentation in the Manning case of the former head of the military legal service of the US Army Richard Rosen, now the director of the Center for Military Law and Politics at the Faculty of Law of the University of Texas.

In particular, he said: “When they give you permission and trust, you must follow the rules for the security of documents, and it’s not up to you to decide what to make public. It seems to me that it is possible to be the whistleblower in the army. The question is how to do it. ” After all, the military takes the oath. Manning could write to the congressman and say, "Look at such and such information."

However, under the article “Assisting the enemy” (punishment is the death penalty) B. Manning will be difficult to blame. It will be difficult for the state to prove it, says Mr. Rosen. “Manning should have known that by merging this information, he helps the enemy. It is not enough that he made the information public ..., thinking that it would help people. ”

Alexander Khristenko ("Vesti") quotes in his report the words of one of the protesters at Fort Mead: “He is a hero because he defended the American Constitution by courageously speaking out against our government, which kills people all over the world with drones UAVs. The Constitution does not say a word about the fact that the US president has the right to issue such orders. ”

So, not only before the American society, but also before the whole world, stood - far from the first time - a question that is difficult to give a definite answer: the enemy Manning, or still a fighter for freedom and against the vicious foreign policy of that state, which is more two centuries advocating all kinds of rights and freedoms?

However, unambiguous answers just enough. Those who call Manning an enemy, repelled by the fact that he betrayed the interests of the state, violated the military oath and in general was a homosexual and vain guy, counting on fame. And even life-threatening imprisonment does not change their opinions. Those who consider Bradley a pacifist and whistleblower, a hero and a fighter, argue their position with the killings that the American military machine is doing all over the world - in the name of dubious "democratic values". If Leo Tolstoy were alive today, he would fully defend Manning and write an article against the state. Be alive, Ivan Ilyin, he was ardently advocated for the punishment of the private and for the state.

The military court at Fort Mide will certainly condemn Manning. The defense has too few arguments to cover the charges of the prosecutor's office as trump cards.

In conclusion, it should be noted that the Manning case could not but affect the fall of confidence in the world to the most diverse US institutions - to the special services, the army, the legislature. Brad Manning exposed the torture administration of Bush Jr., and exposed the military cynicism that was going on under Obama. Private vanity is exaggerated: he still hid his cooperation with WikiLeaks, and if it were not for his hacker friend who had handed him over to the authorities, it might have been continued.

Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
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  1. Ragnarek
    Ragnarek 5 June 2013 08: 29 New
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    and why human rights activists then languages ​​in z..u stuck? the guy did a good deed - he opened his eyes to the world on the true face of the USA
    1. Orel
      Orel 5 June 2013 11: 09 New
      13
      Quote: Ragnarek
      and why human rights activists then languages ​​in z..u stuck? the guy did a good deed - he opened his eyes to the world on the true face of the USA

      Because all "human rights activists" get paid in the US State Department.
      1. builder
        builder 5 June 2013 14: 16 New
        0
        “I know that the XNUMXst century is just beginning, but in my opinion, it will be one of the most important lawsuits of the century,” said lawyer Jesselyn Radack, director of the national security program at an organization to defend whistleblowers like Manning, - Government Accountability Project.(I feel that not all human rights defenders receive a salary in the US State Department)
      2. German
        German 5 June 2013 16: 36 New
        +1
        and how did you find out about the salary? also from Wikileaks? who this time betrayed shit democracy? wassat wassat wassat
    2. dirty trick
      dirty trick 5 June 2013 11: 15 New
      +5
      Quote: Ragnarek
      and why human rights activists then languages ​​in z..u stuck?

      if they start to be indignant for some reason, then the State Department can after all take away their salaries - but what then should they live on? in fact, except for ... those who are pointed out from the State Department, they do not know how to do anything!
    3. Alew
      Alew 5 June 2013 12: 36 New
      0
      FREEDOM !!! Private First Class Bradley Manning.
      1. Apologet.Ru
        Apologet.Ru 5 June 2013 19: 28 New
        +2
        Vsevolod Vladimirovich Vladimirov, aka Colonel Maxim Maximovich Isaev, aka SS Standartenfuhrer Max Otto von Stierlitz - Max Otto von Stierlitz - just resting! Where were the eyes and hands of the FSB, SVR and GRU? Such frames disappear ...
        1. Bear52
          Bear52 9 June 2013 22: 15 New
          0
          Apologet.Ru
          Where were the eyes and hands of the FSB, SVR and GRU?
          I think I know! They disdained. A bespectacled bespectacled man, gay with psychological problems (an army psychologist should not report to the command?!). Yes, and with permission fellow Who would have stuck in this minefield? wassat bully
    4. honest jew
      honest jew 5 June 2013 16: 00 New
      +1
      this ordinary Cossack, as well as Julian Assange, another American comedy on misinformation and distraction from real affairs
      1. SSR
        SSR 5 June 2013 23: 33 New
        -1
        When I'm nervous ... I sweat ...
        When I sweat I stink ....
        When I stink .... they wash me ...
        When they wash me .....
        I'm nervous ......
      2. albanech
        albanech 6 June 2013 09: 04 New
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        FUNNY! laughing FIT CORRECTLY!
    5. Che
      Che 11 June 2013 19: 09 New
      0
      And you noticed in the text how Meninga was made gay. Yes, the homeland of lies and hatred must disappear. Someone will at least say a word, amers will destroy. Here is a vivid example of shit democracy.
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 5 June 2013 08: 32 New
    +9
    "The motivation for the private was as follows: he handed in the CD-ROM documents for publication on the site because American citizens, he believed, had every right to know about the arbitrariness of the US military in Iraq and Afghanistan."

    The problem is that American citizens, in fact, have absolutely nothing to do with the arbitrariness of the military in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the rest of the world knows about it, only some put their tongue in the back seat, while others can not do anything about it.
    1. maxcor1974
      maxcor1974 5 June 2013 10: 10 New
      +4
      I will add that from a certain point of view, the publication of these data can benefit the State Department: since facts about violence during military operations accustom society to the admissibility of such actions (it has been shown that people who watch horror films often dull their sense of fear and compassion)
      1. Apologet.Ru
        Apologet.Ru 5 June 2013 21: 22 New
        +2
        And why should the boy be judged if Secretary of State John Kerry himself, speaking in Berlin, said that in the United States "you have the right to be stupid if you want to." As you can see, the right voiced by Mr. Kerry is being implemented very successfully in his homeland. I’m waiting - I won’t wait, and I’m not alone when the “right to stupidity” will be brought into the US Constitution as an amendment, and they will begin to punish for the violation the full extent of the law.
    2. maxcor1974
      maxcor1974 5 June 2013 10: 10 New
      +2
      I will add that from a certain point of view, the publication of these data can benefit the State Department: since facts about violence during military operations accustom society to the admissibility of such actions (it has been shown that people who watch horror films often dull their sense of fear and compassion)
  3. Baron Wrangell
    Baron Wrangell 5 June 2013 08: 35 New
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    my opinion is! This Mannig, by the law of any country, is a traitor! Since the disclosure of information constituting a state or official secret of the state is treason.
    Now let's try to make out the moral component:
    1. From the point of view of us and people, not Americans, he is a hero who put on display unsightly facts from the life of America. But this is on our part.
    2. He is a soldier, so he took the oath to his country, which he betrayed! He passed the information to the person of another state.
    Here, of course, you can talk about whether we love the United States, but this is another argument. If our Russian bastard would reveal similar information about us, then I think many would begin to write that he deserves a smart execution.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 5 June 2013 10: 08 New
      +9
      Quote: Baron Wrangell
      my opinion is! This Mannig, by the law of any country, is a traitor! .


      And for me he is for our country not a traitor but a scout and a very positive hero

      Quote: Baron Wrangell
      If our Russian bastard would reveal similar information about us


      Nick & Sea Corporation, an American company incorporated in San Francisco, California. Today it has controlling or close to controlling stakes in such enterprises as the Avionika Moscow Scientific and Industrial Complex (34,16%), the Tushino Engineering Plant (16,37%), and the Ecor Research Institute of Control Systems ( 39,78%), Pribor JSC (24,96%).
      According to a respondent from the State Committee for the Defense Industry of the Russian Federation, this company recruited agents at Russian enterprises who persuaded employees to transfer their shares to Nick & Sea Corporation for a certain amount. Moreover, the list of enterprises is selected in such a way that ownership of their shares will allow the American company to radically influence the process of development and production of aircraft in Russia.
      1. Volkhov
        Volkhov 5 June 2013 15: 28 New
        +2
        Quote: Vadivak
        And for me he is for our country not a traitor but a scout and a very positive hero

        "Our country" is subordinate to the United States and is obliged to pursue an American course, another thing is that Wikileaks is an American project and process is needed to give credibility to the materials of the site - let them take it seriously.
    2. dmb
      dmb 5 June 2013 10: 55 New
      +3
      I would not say so unambiguously. War is generally a dirty thing. If Manning made public the data that, under the laws of his country, is a crime, then what kind of traitor is he? If the same Navalny reports that Pekhtin filled up the apartment in the States, then there is no betrayal, but he needs to be planted because he has rested the forest.
    3. Roll
      Roll 5 June 2013 18: 46 New
      +5
      fellow And if our Russian gentleman handed over to the amers all the wiretaps in their embassy, ​​and was not worthy of death, Tea is not Penkovsky, then he did not betray, but put it on the Internet, if he sold it to our FSB then betrayed it, and if he put it on yube or Velikelix, that’s right. In my opinion, he is a fighter with globalism, it is one thing to issue secret weapons, another to tell the whole world what Amers do.
    4. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx 5 June 2013 23: 48 New
      +3
      abstracting from what amer bastards ...

      the soldier really betrayed the oath ...
      1. Ram chandra
        Ram chandra 11 June 2013 13: 43 New
        0
        What else to expect from gNomika.
  4. Vanek
    Vanek 5 June 2013 08: 37 New
    0
    because American citizens, he believed, had every right to know about the arbitrariness of the US military in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    You might think that they are interested in this? American citizens of Iraq on the globe, they will not find.
    1. German
      German 5 June 2013 16: 43 New
      0
      they (amers) finally do not even know what kind of thing this globe is! in any case, many of these ... And you say: Iraq! laughing
  5. avant-garde
    avant-garde 5 June 2013 08: 42 New
    +1
    Right now, it’s quite democratic somewhere in Guantanumo prison to be hanged!
  6. Dima190579
    Dima190579 5 June 2013 08: 49 New
    +4
    Here is a real American hero. Not cinematic but real. His heart shudders at what he had to experience in the dungeons of the American Gulag.
  7. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 5 June 2013 08: 51 New
    +6
    Bradley must be stolen by Russian special services, awarded and given Russian citizenship !!! .... he alone did much more than our special services combined, located abroad.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 5 June 2013 09: 01 New
      +5
      Quote: Grigorich 1962
      Bradley must be stolen by the Russian special services, rewarded and

      and give back.
      Quote: Grigorich 1962
      he alone did much more than our special services combined, located abroad.

      It’s good when you have information about who has done what and how much you can compare. wink
    2. urich
      urich 5 June 2013 09: 12 New
      +4
      How do you know what our special services are doing? Or do you think that about everything that you have done, you need to yell in all media?
      Secondly, Manning is a traitor. You can talk as much as you like about his good intentions, but he betrayed the interests of his country. Why the hell are we such personalities? Did he do anything useful for Russia? It may be on the list that he published and there are documents interesting for our intelligence, but Manning did not post them for our country! Did he work for us? NOT!
      Now, if someone in our country posted secret information in the public domain, would you react to this normally?
      The difference is that our traitors do their dirty deed almost always for selfish interest, that is, for money.
      1. riding
        riding 5 June 2013 10: 29 New
        0
        A high-ranking traitor Khrushchev is still admired by many in our country. But his activities led to a fall in the authority of the USSR in the international arena. The secret report, full of lies, was freely printed in all world media.
  8. andrei332809
    andrei332809 5 June 2013 08: 55 New
    +1
    double feeling. on the one hand, he spoiled a pin-up-himself, which cannot but rejoice. but on the other, there’s a kind of Amer’s "frost pavilion"
  9. RussianRu
    RussianRu 5 June 2013 08: 57 New
    +4
    It means that all the materials that he transmitted contained the truth about the arbitrariness of the American army and politicians. Bradley, while the only American who disgusts the hypocrisy of American politics.
    1. builder
      builder 5 June 2013 14: 22 New
      +4
      Michael Frances Moore is an American journalist and film director. I recommend watching the movie Fahrenheit 9/11 (which has become the most commercially successful film in the history of documentary films).
  10. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 5 June 2013 08: 58 New
    +1
    Manning is the two sides of the same coin ...
  11. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 5 June 2013 09: 00 New
    +2
    Great benefit to us, man.
    1. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx 5 June 2013 23: 51 New
      +1
      what is the use of something?
      Is he publishing evidence that Americans are unarmed shot?
      didn’t you know?
  12. BARKAS
    BARKAS 5 June 2013 09: 05 New
    +5
    If Menning would only disclose information about the shooting of peaceful journalists, then he would definitely be a hero in the eyes of many, but the guy overdid it with the number of documents!
  13. Scoun
    Scoun 5 June 2013 09: 47 New
    +3
    Jokes shocked himexchanged by American military pilots.

    They called for a mortally wounded civilian, who was trying to crawl into cover, “to pick up a weapon” so that they could shoot him. When the pilots realized that they killed the children, having shot the van, the driver of which was trying to save the reporters, they said: "Well, they themselves are to blame, it was not necessary to drag the children into battle."

    On the one hand, "jokes" and murders ... it cannot be called on the other ... and these "military" should have taken the oath (American soldiers must have defended their homeland) engaged in the murder with particular cruelty ... and such must be judged .. ... and there are a lot of them ... in the US Army.

    There are other reasons, says Tara Gelfman. Manning did not fully realize what he was doing: he suffered from bouts of anxiety and depression. Finally he was gay

    Where you don’t “poke” with your finger, or you’ll get into a Jew or a fagot ... more and more often all that is for discussion .. ears of one or the other are peeping .. or at the same time ....
  14. ISO
    ISO 5 June 2013 09: 49 New
    +2
    N-yes teachers with this analyst did not finish. Since the state took up the dirty deeds, it was necessary to train it even in schools, otherwise it’s a pity the conflict of the internal worldview of the bespectacled nerd and the brutal reality of bloody operations. Study of the SS’s heritage was not in vain even in Hitler’s Jugende, there they were screened out when shooting their dogs.
    Rather, this act is not Heroism, but infantilism. And so that the analyst makes a decision under the influence of his emotional assessment ... Gee-gee, they have more of such analysts. The main thing is that they do not change their tests for admission to the position longer wink
  15. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 5 June 2013 09: 58 New
    +3
    Of course, I am against US policy, but this type, a pure traitor, a soldier must believe in the ideas of his army, otherwise such an army soldier is not needed!
    1. Scoun
      Scoun 5 June 2013 11: 39 New
      +6
      Quote: Prapor Afonya
      a soldier must believe in the ideas of his army

      Well, there was a warp in the soldier ... he believed in one and saw the other ...
      or as an option for him ... to accept the truth and come to terms with it, you can become a moral accomplice of the killers. By the way ... then such reconciled accomplices then get drunk on a civilian .. because you can’t argue against the truth.

      PS.
      I rode one morning in the subway .... I sit and closed my eyes, like I’m sleeping .... more and more people .. and through closed eyelids .. I see a woman standing in front of me ...
      I think ... well, figs would be with her .. I’m kind of sleeping and I don’t see her ... that means there’s no "disrespect" composition .... I’m sitting on .. and I think ... well, what does a woman cost, anyway I know .. so I knowingly deliberately imitate a dream and other stuff ..... it got so sick of my petting ... I stood up and gave way .. and since then I haven’t taken the subway or immediately given way to women, children and the elderly.
  16. Jolla
    Jolla 5 June 2013 10: 02 New
    +5
    Information about the executions and lawlessness of the US military is not a state secret and is not a betrayal of the interests of their country, in my opinion. There is no transfer of secret technologies, developments, and information that are of true value to the state and useful to the enemy side, which can be used against America. If there are recorded only violations of universal norms and rights, lawlessness and arbitrariness at different levels, this is good. And this information can be used not against America itself, but against those clans and managers who have long occupied this country and use its soldier’s body for their own mercenary purposes to enslave the world. The work of clans, and the country and people will answer, as usual ...
  17. Ulysses
    Ulysses 5 June 2013 10: 07 New
    0
    Our man at the Pentagon.
    Scout.
    Award in absentia


    Indeed, where are the defenders ??????????????? belay
  18. badabing
    badabing 5 June 2013 10: 15 New
    10
    but what is the idiotic opinion of many here that if our military would have leaked information of a similar nature, it is unlikely that anyone would stand on his side, as well as be rotten?
    we generally don’t break into foreign countries destroying everyone and hiding behind cheap (but damn working) propaganda, it’s one thing to wet the fascists who burned people in concentration camps, and another thing to shoot children from helicopters
    if in our country there were military men who allow themselves this and politicians who cover it, then I would be the first to want to change it
    you can be a great and strong power and without losing a human face, and the history of our state, at one time showed very well
    the guy is guilty only of non-compliance with the charter, from a moral point of view - a real MAN
    in a good way, the highest military commanders should sit on one bench with him, who allow such actions, although in the case of the states, the whole congress should sit on the bench
    1. Denis
      Denis 5 June 2013 12: 05 New
      -2
      Quote: badabing
      the guy is guilty only of non-compliance with the charter
      Yes, just baby pranks
      And he did not swear to watch him?
      Yes, it’s time to decorate the pillars with such zhpatriotami
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 5 June 2013 13: 31 New
        +3
        Quote: Denis
        Yes, it’s time to decorate the pillars with such zhpatriotami

        I won’t talk about "zhapapatritov" but I will answer you differently ..
        "Cathedral Laying" of Moscow Russia (1649): "An adversary asking for mercy to spare; unarmed not to kill; do not fight with women; do not touch youngsters. To deal with prisoners is humane ashamed of barbarism. No less weapons to hit the enemy with humanity. The soldier must crush the enemy’s power, and not defeat the unarmed. ”


        the order to the Cossacks who are sent to war, given by an old soldier in the novel by M. A. Sholokhov “Quiet Don”. ("Do not run into the house. An adversary asking for mercy, spare, do not kill unarmed, do not fight with women; do not touch youngsters.")

        Monument in Treptow Park.
        1. Denis
          Denis 5 June 2013 14: 17 New
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          Quote: Scoun
          “An adversary asking for mercy to spare; unarmed not to kill; do not fight with women; do not touch youngsters. With prisoners to act humane, ashamed of barbarism
          Do not distort
          About traitors it does not say
          1. Scoun
            Scoun 5 June 2013 17: 01 New
            +2
            I wrote a long, long answer with excerpts from the Oath of the Constitution of dignity .... and then deleted everything ..
            War is a terrible thing .. and reasoning while sitting at a computer in a cozy office .... highly moralizing about the oath / betrayal, murder of the unarmed / war ... in general, I deleted all the badi that I wrote ... I'm homophobic .. but perhaps this soldier USA, I would shake hands for those innocent lives that he saved.
      2. badabing
        badabing 5 June 2013 16: 33 New
        +1
        yes decorate what you want
        issued a military secret - guilty, will sit down
        but to make a geek out of him is stupid
  19. Jolla
    Jolla 5 June 2013 10: 19 New
    +4
    By the way, about human rights defenders. If you follow this logic of Manning’s guilt and responsibility, then all the “Echo of Moscow”, all the liberoids-de-Stalinizers must be brought to the tribunal for declassifying state secrets.
    1. Denis
      Denis 5 June 2013 12: 03 New
      +3
      Quote: Jolla
      all "Echo of Moscow", all liberoids-de-Stalinizers need to be brought to trial
      The world would have lost absolutely nothing, on the contrary, would have been cleansed
    2. builder
      builder 5 June 2013 14: 27 New
      +1
      Mening leaked real classified material. "Echo of Moscow" tells tales ("why the evidence is so everyone knows!").
  20. krez-74
    krez-74 5 June 2013 10: 42 New
    +1
    The presence in the world, in states and in all kinds of structures of the option "state secret" - always led to abuses, crimes and their concealment !!! For example, special services live at the expense of tax payers, but they secret what they consider necessary without notifying these same tax payers. so are the deputies of all countries - supposedly chosen from the people, but they create secrets from the same people.
  21. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 5 June 2013 10: 47 New
    -2
    Russian Pavlik Morozov, deserves only respect! Russia only benefits such soldiers!
  22. people
    people 5 June 2013 11: 05 New
    +2
    Quote: Prapor Afonya
    Of course, I am against US policy, but this type, a pure traitor, a soldier must believe in the ideas of his army, otherwise such an army soldier is not needed!


    The fact of the matter is that the amers are not fighting for the idea and there is no truth on their side. I think that the delirious patriot of his country, raised on Hollywood films, saw from within all the ready-made American democracy, all the lies of Amer’s politics, which gave rise to it has an internal conflict with conscience. A traitor or a fighter for honor? But America easily betrays its veterans when they become unnecessary. It’s a pity the guy was born in the wrong country ...
  23. imrek_ua
    imrek_ua 5 June 2013 11: 08 New
    +2
    How to jail ?! But what about democracy? Not a thing. The guy acted in accordance with his convictions. In a democratic society, everyone has the right to do so. The mess. In the United States violate democratic principles, cynically violating universal values. It’s time for the United States to be held accountable! Freedom Angela Davis !!! Ugh you, Bradley Manning.
    1. German
      German 5 June 2013 16: 50 New
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      ... And also urgently declare a “no-fly zone” over the USA AND OPERATE “DEMOCRATIZATION” OPERATION! But what, they can and we can’t? laughing
    2. Bear52
      Bear52 9 June 2013 22: 30 New
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      Yeah, and all gays in US ARMY drinks
  24. Matt eversmann
    Matt eversmann 5 June 2013 11: 30 New
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    The guy, of course, will be imprisoned. And he will probably sit for the rest of his life. Manning deserves respect. He is a true patriot of his country.
    1. Malleus
      Malleus 5 June 2013 11: 52 New
      +4
      ... and a true homosexual. laughing
      1. German
        German 6 June 2013 00: 18 New
        +1
        yes! gee gee !!! laughing
    2. Denis
      Denis 5 June 2013 12: 00 New
      +4
      Quote: Matt Eversmann
      He is a true patriot of his country.
      To hand over secrets entrusted to him is patriotism?
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  26. SPIRITofFREEDOM
    SPIRITofFREEDOM 5 June 2013 11: 53 New
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    Nothing is said about money, if there was none, then the guy is clean !!!
    Americans are fascists !!!
    1. MG42
      MG42 5 June 2013 15: 32 New
      +3
      It does not say how much Julian Assange from << Wikileaks >> = this one is definitely not Pavlik Morozov ..
  27. Denis
    Denis 5 June 2013 11: 54 New
    +2
    I don’t worry about the defenses of the striped-stripes, but these fagots need it, but he is a traitor. A thief should be in prison! (C)
    After all, when admitted to secrets, he gave any subscriptions or whatever they have about non-disclosure. He could have refused
    So you can assign a traitor to Kalugin as heroes
    he was gay, which means he was depressed by the need to hide his sexual orientation from his superiors and comrades. The professor believes that he was not entirely sane.
    So are they human or nature’s mistakes, what will their defenders say?
    They certainly do not belong in the army, although let them be in them
  28. Captain45
    Captain45 5 June 2013 12: 12 New
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    "... Manning’s case could not but affect the decline in world trust in a variety of US institutions - the special services, the army, the legislature. Brad Manning exposed the torture administration of Bush Jr., and exposed the military cynicism that was happening under Obama," and therefore objectively worked in our favor and of all normal humanity.
    "Freedom to Yuri Detochkin!" (C) film "Watch out for the car"
    "It's a pity Fox, we could have a lot of benefit from him" (c) film "The meeting place cannot be changed"
  29. phantom359
    phantom359 5 June 2013 12: 16 New
    +2
    Aiding the enemy? An interesting wording, in a foreign country, where American pilots shoot civilians, then they also mock. They have such an enemy. Whatever motives this “warrior” had, he did the right thing. Little did we fly the American flyer’s snout in Ethiopia (their C130 stood next to our side). Then they filled up with friends. This public. until you get it on your forehead - it’s not respecting.
    1. German
      German 6 June 2013 00: 24 New
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      ... probably you didn’t drink much. or you couldn’t stand too much .... read any x ... and! you would have been driven to the edge of geography for this (I mean for “cleaned the face”). And how did you get it: “were you standing next to C130?” antiresres?
      1. phantom359
        phantom359 6 June 2013 22: 37 New
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        Quote: German
        ... probably you didn’t drink much. or you couldn’t stand too much .... read any x ... and! you would have been driven to the edge of geography for this (I mean for “cleaned the face”). And how did you get it: “were you standing next to C130?” antiresres?

        I do not abuse alcohol, drink on holidays and in moderation. If the parrot is antirez, then in the tavern, where they began to grey out of measure. after that, the player was presented with a player, and I was given a T-shirt with F18, although it would be better to give everything to the navigator, he piled them the most.))) Before you hang up labels, stop reading any x ,,, Yu. network warrior.)))
  30. nekromonger
    nekromonger 5 June 2013 13: 34 New
    +1
    here he is, a real american hero - gay. everything is modern. laughing
  31. Guun
    Guun 5 June 2013 13: 41 New
    +5
    War is war, terrible and merciless. But even in war, a person must remain a man, then there is a chance that after the war you will live like a man. For Bradley Manning, what he saw was a shock, his idea of ​​war was completely different (brave marines protect children and democracy from the dictatorship of a local tyrant), but in reality it turned out that he was simply deceived. And the guy decided to at least somehow prevent this nightmare (in American films it is often shown that if he collected incriminating evidence on the government and put everything in the media, the offender is punished and rejoices justice, but only in the life of the United States everything is exactly the exact opposite.) The guy acted as he believed necessary, because there are people for whom a clear conscience and a calm soul are most desirable in the world.
  32. Kuryanin
    Kuryanin 5 June 2013 15: 49 New
    +2
    And you paid attention to such an aspect that in America those who call Manning the enemy argue that he was homosexual in a bad context, when it comes to Russia, they write to us indignantly that we forbid gay parades. Why are you indignant if gay is bad. But in general it’s their struggle for the right to know what the government is doing in their country, it didn’t bring any benefit to me like to my homeland, I knew all this about America before. Humanly, he or she is sorry.
  33. ISO
    ISO 5 June 2013 16: 40 New
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    Quote: badabing
    but what is the idiotic opinion of many here that if our military would have leaked information of a similar nature, it is unlikely that anyone would stand on his side, as well as be rotten?

    In general, I just can’t remember, but vaguely recalls some reports in the framework of the information war against Russia in the media during the first Chechen one. True or not, the Lord is the judge of those journalists. As far as I remember, the military inside their organization frayed such moments and didn’t dump the garbage themselves.
    Regarding "We are good because they are so bad", it’s just a juggle, we also have enough "skeletons" in the closet, don’t ...
    We will not delve into the Second World War there are examples fresher. For one episode, I can tell you exactly in troubled times they scooped up a gopot and riot policemen practiced zindans to knock money out of Chechens, though this trash was eliminated for six months, but managed to make a shit ...
  34. kekse
    kekse 5 June 2013 17: 01 New
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    Quote: Ulysses
    Indeed, where are the defenders ??????????????? belay

    They are all in Russia. They condemned Budanov and restored democracy. Horseradish them in America to do.
  35. rexby63
    rexby63 5 June 2013 19: 36 New
    +2
    And I wouldn’t go with him in intelligence
  36. 128mgb
    128mgb 5 June 2013 19: 48 New
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    Hundreds of Americans staged a demonstration in support of Manning. On June 2, 450 to 700 demonstrators gathered at the Fort Mead American military base, where the trial is taking place.
    Now the CIA has added 450-700 clients, they will ask for funding to add.
  37. badabing
    badabing 5 June 2013 19: 53 New
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    Quote: ISO
    Quote: badabing
    but what is the idiotic opinion of many here that if our military would have leaked information of a similar nature, it is unlikely that anyone would stand on his side, as well as be rotten?

    In general, I just can’t remember, but vaguely recalls some reports in the framework of the information war against Russia in the media during the first Chechen one. True or not, the Lord is the judge of those journalists. As far as I remember, the military inside their organization frayed such moments and didn’t dump the garbage themselves.
    Regarding "We are good because they are so bad", it’s just a juggle, we also have enough "skeletons" in the closet, don’t ...
    We will not delve into the Second World War there are examples fresher. For one episode, I can tell you exactly in troubled times they scooped up a gopot and riot policemen practiced zindans to knock money out of Chechens, though this trash was eliminated for six months, but managed to make a shit ...

    Invalid example. During the Chechen companies, we upheld the integrity of the country and fought with bandits, something I didn’t notice that Americans would be destroyed by notorious terrorists in their own land, rather the opposite. Outspoken invaders with military methods of warfare. They defeated a foreign country and still children are shot by acne from laughter. The methods in the war are similar for everyone, it makes no sense to blame anyone, but the goal in this case should be justified, for us it was the same for the Americans a priori
  38. Fofan
    Fofan 5 June 2013 20: 05 New
    +1
    and if not for his buddy-hacker, who turned him over to the authorities
    this is buddy!
  39. NOBODY EXCEPT US
    NOBODY EXCEPT US 5 June 2013 21: 00 New
    +1
    According to the results of Afghanistan, about 4 thousand people were imprisoned for various crimes, including for the UNJUSTED killings of peaceful Afghan citizens ... I do not know statistics on Chechnya but Budanov’s example is indicative, he knew that this bast was hollowing our guys, but there was no evidence for the special officers, therefore, did as he saw fit ... don’t judge so you will not be judged ..... but Mening is this pi-op ....
    1. German
      German 6 June 2013 00: 36 New
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      Golden words about Budanov ... I will not continue, I have no right: I was not there. but from what I read and heard from my godfather, who was there 3 business trips, I think: everything is right!
  40. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 6 June 2013 07: 43 New
    -1
    This Bradley needs to be exchanged with someone from the Americans ..... to reward and give him Russian citizenship ..... and let more such corporals pass to us (as in Soviet) times .... give them a certain status and let live with us. Their information is extremely important to us. She completely twists the essence of two-faced American politicians. and it’s good for us to know what they really think and know about us in the world. Well, in addition, in parallel, our decryption authorities will work so as to pick up the key to the American ciphers .... based on the text of the cipher programs, which are most likely at our interception.
    1. albanech
      albanech 6 June 2013 09: 05 New
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      TOOTING! NICE TO READ!
    2. albanech
      albanech 6 June 2013 09: 07 New
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      SMART PEOPLE ARE VISIBLE AT ONCE! KEEP IT UP!
    3. Bear52
      Bear52 9 June 2013 22: 38 New
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      Let me disagree (I agree with the comrades whose comments have been deleted. I guess
  41. Patriot KK98
    Patriot KK98 9 June 2013 14: 55 New
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    Finally, the mask of the world was removed from this filthy creature!
  42. Kilgray
    Kilgray 9 June 2013 16: 04 New
    +1
    This man betrayed the American Armed Forces, but he remained loyal to his country, revealing the duplicity of these state traitors - the killers of civilians. Even from a legal point of view, his misconduct does not consist in what he told about it - everyone shouting about “treacherous disclosure of information” should turn on the brain and shut up - refusing to report a crime that has become known to you is qualified by the law of any country as a crime. Manning's fault is that he did not do this in the manner prescribed by law - through Congress, the inspector, or a senior official. It is difficult to say whether he was guided by a thirst for fame, ideological motives or doubts that a case would be given in this case (in the USA there are all reasons for such doubts). This is precisely what the court will establish in order to take it into account when pronouncing the obvious guilty verdict.