Russian fleet returned to the Mediterranean with unexpected consequences

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Russian fleet returned to the Mediterranean with unexpected consequencesIsrael’s recent attacks on Syria, in particular, the use of destroyers of nuclear bunkers was a gift from the sky for Russians, and opened the door for the deployment of the defense of its long-time ally in Syria. The Russians have returned to the Mediterranean to stay, and this can be a good lesson for the recklessness of the western policy of slowly building up aggression in the region.

Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu released the cat from the bag, saying that the constant presence of naval forces is necessary to protect Russian interests in the region. For two years now, the world has been observing how rationally Russia is coping with the ongoing escalation there, supported by a growing number of external countries, which, in fact, have declared war on Syria, believing that this will be a risk-free business.

And that's what corporate media doesn't tell you. The doctrine of the preemptive strike of the Israelites and the neocons will be challenged. Netanyahu can say anything about the “red lines”, the intersection of which will cause a preventive “defense” strike, but in the opinion of your humble servant, the goals set themselves will adopt such a policy.

Sources in the US Navy can arbitrarily sneer at the "old" Russian ships, but there is nothing old in what they carry - they are the work of art rockets, which they have made the highest priority of their defense policy.

Part of cheating by corporate media has become story that the proposal of C-300 systems for the region destabilizes it. Anyone who is puzzled by studying Jane's documentation (it seems that IHS Jane's consulting and analytical company; note from mixednews.ru) from 1996, will find that they are already in Syria. Perhaps they were under the control of the Russians, and were not officially Syrian. But it would be worth asking these lazy media what then put an end to the Turkish provocations, knocking down their F-16, which was an empty waste of the unfortunate pilots in peacetime.

Yes, C-300 were there all the time, and until they beat Israel. But all this will have to change. Israel’s unpunished flights in Lebanese airspace and their possibility of air strikes without entering Syria’s airspace may be stopped, or they will be stopped when the Russians so decide.

Their fleet, even their old ships, will carry such art objects. weapons systems like the S-400, which will give pilots only 2-3 seconds after they hear a “beep-beep” signal that is approaching them at great speed. Russian patrol ships will be able to shoot down any attacking Israeli aircraft, including those that will return to base after the strike. They will be able to shoot them down even on takeoff.

Any Israeli retaliation will cause a full-scale Russian response, which can be aimed at their bases and command structures. Their updated Iskander missiles are said to have speeds in the range up to 6-7 Mach, but our sources say their speed is over 8 Mach. When evading missile fire, they can deviate with overload by more than 30 G, and dive to the target at an angle of 90 degrees. Israeli bullies have never stood up to modern weapons, but they may have a chance. And they will not like it.

The beauty of the above scenario is that it can be carried out in a strictly defensive framework, while confronting an Israeli attack.

Yes, and I forgot to mention that targeting can be carried out either via satellite or programmed into the rocket’s memory, so that radio suppression is not useful. These are not mortar shells from the backyards of the Gaza Strip, which the Israelis claim is such a deadly threat to them that they constantly carry out retaliatory measures punishing the population as a “deterrent”.

As for accuracy, the Iskander can destroy Patriot batteries on the very first day. And the next day, the Russians may surrender to the mercy of an international court on the grounds that, under international law, the answer was completely legal. And if this is not enough, their second defense may be the Bush doctrine of a preventive strike for defensive purposes ... to destroy not the future threat, but one that already signals its hostile intentions.

If any of you think that I am exaggerating this scenario, I kept this material from publication until I received confirmation from the Israelis. The headline in Israel Hayom from 19 May was as follows:

"Expect Israeli strikes on shipments of Russian arms supplies to Syria-Hezbollah ... the US authorities told the Wall Street Journal that the next round of Israeli air strikes could be aimed at new Russian shipments of modern anti-ship missiles Yakhont."

This was nothing more than preparing the ground for the ongoing aggressive attacks by the Israel Defense Forces in support of Syrian militants. Pay attention to the automatic linking of Syria and Hezbollah, as if they share weapons with each other, or the Russians will allow them to give weapons to someone else. Did the Israelis get permission from the US? Something like that. Obama said Israel has the right to defend itself, which means that others also have that right. But the conditions of the game change significantly when there is someone in the Middle East who has the ability to take a full-scale retaliatory strike, including nuclear weapons.

And I forgot to mention something about the destroyers of nuclear bunkers that the Israelis used in Damascus. The Russians, of course, also have them. Despite statements by Netanyahu that Israel is ready for any surprises, he is not ready for any of this. And if the Russians respond to the Israeli attack, believe me, the United States will not intercede.

The United States has enough problems because of the involvement of the region in such a danger by arming Israel to the teeth, which its population itself could never afford, and even would not, even if it could.

When Israel suffers from a palpable retaliatory strike after its aggressive attack, I can promise you that ordinary Israelis will instantly change their minds about the cocky chatter they acquired by attacking a weak or defenseless opponent.

In the long run, more than a few international civilian and military think tanks have long suspected that this is what should have happened in the end in order to neutralize Israel as a universal threat. They will attack the wrong ones at the wrong time.

No one in the American army willingly agrees to die for a bully-Israel, except possibly Christian Zionists in the Air Force. So the world would become a safer place if they disappeared.
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  1. +92
    24 May 2013 09: 18
    Zionists on the count! Let them know their place.
    1. +36
      24 May 2013 09: 22
      Sources in the US Navy can arbitrarily sneer at the "old" Russian ships, but there is nothing old in what they carry - they are the work of art rockets, which they have made the highest priority of their defense policy.

      These works of art quickly discourage the desire of these "sources" to mock Russian ships, making them cry over their own:


      MOSCOW, May 21 - RIA News. Russia will complete the supply of defensive weapons to Syria in strict accordance with the terms of the agreements previously concluded, Konstantin Biryulin, deputy head of the Russian Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSVTS), told RIA Novosti on Tuesday.


      The American newspaper The New York Times, citing representatives of the American authorities, previously reported that Russia allegedly sent a batch of new modification of anti-ship cruise missiles to Syria. Delivery dates are not specified in the article. Sources citing secret intelligence reports say they are Yakhont missiles with improved guidance systems to destroy ships.


      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20130521/938516322.html#ixzz2UBVVqVmR
      1. +69
        24 May 2013 10: 07
        Utopian article, it’s very nice to read it of course, but ... It’s stupid to think that Russia will strike back at Israel, the Jewish diaspora too much has taken root in all our structures! And Russia will not take such a risk, starting an open aggression against a country with which they are trying so hard to establish good relations ... Therefore, our ships there are more likely to be restraining and possibly (I really hope so) they still brought several pieces of equipment like C-300, which Syria so needs now!
        As for the comments of Western wiseacres, about the condition of our ships, and indeed in general. So let these mutts yap, the lack of brains cannot be cured, and they can’t do anything else, they hysterically try to calm themselves, because nothing but rot in these people has long been left!
        1. +13
          24 May 2013 10: 57
          Now, an Israeli forum is discussing whether the bombing of Tartus will be an announcement of the Russian war.

          Here the question is something else - if the Israelis attack our fleet unexpectedly without declaring war and other conventions - it will be destroyed. You need to have the courage to shoot down planes in the airspace of Israel, but our sailors will not do this one-for-one.

          Then the way out is to send the ships unloaded, and keep the fleet at a considerable distance. And if the Israelis dare, then they’ll come near and destroy their airfields in the affected area and announce the no-fly zone. True, in this case, ships at the berths will die.
          1. Bashkaus
            +55
            24 May 2013 12: 13
            zvereok The funny thing is that in Jewish forums they discuss seriously attacking our ships in Tarutus or not. And at this time we are seriously discussing the Third World War, or we will simply be offended if we destroy Israel, Turkey and several other countries combined. As they say, feel the difference in scale)))
            1. RUSSIA 2013
              +34
              24 May 2013 14: 27
              I believe that Israel has played it up, that it’s time to teach it a lesson, we have every right to retaliate if there is a threat of an air raid on Tartus, and the Jewish diaspora is not the United States, they live in Russia, and let them accept our rules, but Welcom doesn’t Israel we will not keep them.
              1. +5
                24 May 2013 18: 42
                SOLAS TOTALLY !!!!!!!!!!!
              2. +1
                24 May 2013 21: 17
                There is no need to teach anyone if they do not calm down selling Iran at a cost price of three cars of sniper rifles, hand-held anti-aircraft and anti-tank systems. Then I'll see how Israeli planes fly over Heban from Lebanon. Well, just in case, three expanders within the reach of the promised land, I think if enough is enough for total non-nuclear destruction.
              3. S_mirnov
                +2
                24 May 2013 23: 33
                "but there is no Welcom in Israel, we will not keep them" and who is it in our government so brave to expel the Jewish diaspora?
                http://demotivation.me/h2p773452corpic.html#.UYzGjkrvvlc
                Yes, our Foreign Ministry, together with the vaunted Lavrovyv, was liquidated by the mosquito squeak of some Crimean Tatars:
                http://news.rambler.ru/19200047/
                And by the way, leaked his consul! Which, unlike his superiors, has not changed his words, here is a real man! Not like Lavrov!
                http://www.interfax.ru/russia/txt.asp?id=308664
                1. S_mirnov
                  +1
                  24 May 2013 23: 58
                  "Vladimir Andreev announced his resignation, disagreeing with the statement of the Russian Foreign Ministry regarding his statements about the Crimean Tatars.

                  See the original material at http://www.interfax.ru/russia/txt.asp?id=308664
                  Remember him Vladimir Andreev - here is a seasoned human being!
              4. nightmare12
                0
                25 May 2013 02: 50
                And you know that Israel is a large and powerful state. If it weren’t, then it would be called Isea laughing
                1. vdenisov56
                  0
                  30 May 2013 21: 29
                  So Israel is the Great Izzy. Even in the States they are afraid of it!
              5. Katsin
                -14
                25 May 2013 08: 39
                But how do you teach a lesson and for what? If you really didn’t manage to deal with Chechnya, but Israel will be much more vigorous than Chechnya ...
                1. 0
                  25 May 2013 14: 59
                  and oh, how do we verify that then? :)))))
                  1. 0
                    25 May 2013 15: 02
                    Then the world will drown in the Nuclear War ... there will be joy for everyone.
                    1. 0
                      26 May 2013 00: 40
                      Quote: il grand casino
                      Then the world will drown in the Nuclear War ... there will be joy for everyone.

                      but maybe not "dull"! But I would go to war with Izergil, I still have old accounts for them, according to my past incarnations here, even without money, for a bright future on Earth!
                      1. 0
                        26 May 2013 10: 36
                        Duc, it hinders! You go, why drag others along?
                      2. 0
                        26 May 2013 21: 28
                        and no one is pulling anyone, I personally said it for myself, and there everyone wants to!
                2. +1
                  25 May 2013 17: 49
                  Quote: Katsin
                  If you really didn’t manage to deal with Chechnya

                  Do not confuse _ They could not and did not dare!
                  Two agro differences.
                  And with a showdown with Israel, not everything is clean. What kind of money goes through the UN humiliated and destitute and they voluntarily refuse them? And the crystal-clear officials of all stripes / all sides tied to this money?
                3. +2
                  28 May 2013 22: 15
                  Listen, dear! You sit there, and do not poke! The Chechen Republic is located on the territory of the RUSSIAN FEDERATION !! And Israel has nothing to do with the territory of Syria !!! You have touched Chechnya, but what are you doing there? with Palestine ??? And ??? First, teach the story, look at the cards, and then open your mouth !!! You are "heroes" when you are supported by amers, but sooner or later, everyone will be given what he deserves !!
                  1. Bopoh
                    0
                    31 May 2013 07: 07
                    Palestine exists on the same gkfytnt. as Hyperborea, Great Tartary and Atlantis. And also in the feverish delirium of varied junkers and idiots.
                4. 0
                  30 May 2013 12: 11
                  I ask you not to confuse, Chechnya is Russia, and they fought against the Wahhabis.
                  and here the country is on the side. other weapons other targets.
            2. -5
              24 May 2013 18: 14
              Quote: Bashkaus
              The funny thing is that in Jewish forums they discuss seriously attacking our ships in Tarutus or not. AND

              and you throw a link to these forums. interesting all the same.
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          2. -5
            24 May 2013 18: 14
            Quote: zvereok
            Now, an Israeli forum is discussing whether the bombing of Tartus will be an announcement of the Russian war.

            reset the link to the forum.
            1. Zopuhhh
              -5
              24 May 2013 18: 55
              And here I agree with Jewish comrades ... Proof in the studio
              1. Hudo
                +9
                24 May 2013 20: 54
                Is such a reference suitable?
                1. RUSSIA 2013
                  +4
                  25 May 2013 00: 29
                  (civilian people of Israel) Palestine in occupation, the Golan Heights that belong to Syria, in occupation, we bomb as we want, complete depressions to neighbors with US support, and as it relates to you, no gentlemen, Jews don’t be behind you, Israel fell within a month, you’re talking about the Holocaust, but a trip, but your state’s policy Towards Palestine is not a Holocaust in the modern world. Syria’s call will cost Israel dearly, but we won’t surrender Syria, justice will prevail, but everything will be done to Israel early, will have to pay the bills.
                  1. Bopoh
                    0
                    31 May 2013 07: 14
                    The primordial land of the Russians is the Principality of Moscow, in a larger sense, the Volga-Oksky corner.
                    Everywhere beyond these borders, Russians are occupiers. This has historically happened.
                    What are you snot dissolving? Or do you think that the Russian people originally lived from the Carpathians to Kamchatka and from the North Pole to India?

                    They treat you like invaders. And you treat everyone as occupiers.
                    There is no paradox and injustice.
                  2. Mihail33
                    0
                    21 August 2013 19: 44
                    You are so illiterate, kotyara. You sit under the bench, and you still fight in March, scat.
                    1. 0
                      21 August 2013 20: 15
                      Quote: Michael33
                      How illiterate you are ...

                      He is riding along the Estonian side road of a chaise, and an old Estonian dad and his two sons are sitting in it. Suddenly, in front of the horse's nose, something runs through and hides in the bushes. Estonians go on. After 15 minutes, the eldest son says: - Et-too was for ayats. Another 15 minutes pass. The youngest son says: - Nett, not good. Another half hour passes. Dad: - You still lose it, fussy Estonian on-pa-arnies ...

                      I hope everything is clear or how?
                      1. Mihail33
                        0
                        21 August 2013 20: 50
                        Well, where are we, ignoramuses.
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            2. +7
              24 May 2013 21: 27
              Link where they discuss the blow to Tartus.

              http://www.waronline.org/fora/index.php?threads/%D0%A3%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%80-%D0%BF%
              D0%BE-%D0%A2%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%82%D1%83%D1%81%D1%83-%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%8A%D1%8F%D0%B2%
              D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5-%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D1%8B-%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%
              D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B8.2228/
              1. +15
                24 May 2013 21: 46
                Quote: zvereok
                Link where they discuss the blow to Tartus.
                .....................................


                In addition, I will quote a few comments from the Jewish news site http://9tv.co.il (article "The Russian fleet patrols off the coast of Syria")
                we will soon drown17.05.2013 10:04
                each Putin ship has a large dashboard.

                Arthur, Haifa 17.05.2013/10/56 XNUMX:XNUMX PM
                The US 6th Fleet needs to establish an external blockade of Syria - and let Russia patrol itself for as long as you like. Block the channels of supply of Russian weapons, and deliver their own to the rebels by land. Fortunately, Syria does not have borders, but one name. And with ships, it happens, accidents happen - especially off the coast of a warring country ...

                IHIILL 17.05.2013 15:55
                IF NAKLY OCCUPIERS FROM RUSSIA HAVE OUR REGION, THEN THE USA AND ISRAEL WILL URGENTLY NEED TO OCCUPIATE THE CASPIAN SEA NEAR IRAN AND RUSSIA !!! And to the FRAMEWORK COMMANDER I WILL ANSWER THAT YOUR RUSSIA IS NOT THE EARTH OF THE EARTH !!! IF IT IS NECESSARY TO BE AND SHOULD THEM HOW TO SPIT !!!

                Comrade Saahov 18.05.2013/04/16 XNUMX:XNUMX
                It is necessary to hit and hit the Russian ships with the Russian Yakhont missiles, and in order for it to be done by completely strangers ... and .... not from our area.

                Russophobia in Israel is booming .....
              2. +3
                25 May 2013 08: 08
                I noticed that the bulk of the comments ten days ago, after which the discussion died down. Most of all, I did not like Jewish humor (enthusiastic and politically correct on their part) about the blood of Christian-Muslim babies. If Holocaust denial is a criminal offense, then things must be punished as well. They gave the Jews an apartment, but they cannot establish relations with their neighbors in the landing.
            3. Bopoh
              0
              31 May 2013 07: 08
              But they shine and do not blush. From time immemorial, they have it.
          3. +4
            24 May 2013 19: 39
            Quote: zvereok
            Here the question is something else - if the Israelis attack our fleet unexpectedly without declaring war or other conventions - it will be destroyed.

            Not, Moses are too smart to get into such an adventure, and not Israel’s enemy to us, in the sense that one nuclear missile that flies will wipe this tiny country off the face of the earth. Israel is not in NATO, so despite their highly equipped army, they won’t go for a provocation, I think so.
            1. Katsin
              -10
              25 May 2013 08: 48
              You are right that we will never attack Russian ships. Your fantasies about a Russian nuclear strike against Israel are also completely groundless. With such a strike, we will have a couple of submarines with nuclear missiles on the move, do you need it? So relax, there will be no war between Israel and Russia. The war between Israel and Russian-armed Islamofascists of all stripes is much more real
              1. +7
                26 May 2013 08: 34
                yes sho you say Islamofascism is a good idea - but hello Zionofascism would be nice to fight with it too
                1. +7
                  27 May 2013 06: 51
                  About fascism. After all, the Jews got what they themselves came up with. Goi, goi, and then broads! and Mr. Hitler brought them karma in his hands, eat with full dear Jews. Carried for a long time ... But so do not forget that everything you do, comrades Jews, the next Hitler carries you in return, wait, it seems to me that he is already on the way))))
                  1. +2
                    27 May 2013 18: 23
                    Quote: Masterzserg
                    But so do not forget that everything you do, comrades Jews, the next Hitler carries you in return, wait, it seems to me that he is already on the way))))

                    Comment "+"! I also think that "every cat scratches its own hoebet!" And patience, even great Russian patience, will also come to an end, sooner or later1 It's strange to me that the Zionists don't understand this. :(
              2. +3
                27 May 2013 06: 42
                Quote: Katsin
                Your fantasies about a Russian nuclear strike against Israel are also completely groundless. With such a strike, we will have a couple of submarines with nuclear missiles on the move, you need it

                Yes, which submarines)))) The country is wiped off the face of the earth, which means there will be no salary, but your patriotism is equal to the number of benefits, you run with these boats for auction, sell as a submarine of a defunct country laughing
            2. Bopoh
              0
              31 May 2013 07: 18
              The Moiseichs will better supply the Eisel-Vasisuals with carrots and potatoes. And the troughs, proudly referred to as the fleet, with God's help, will themselves be covered with copper basins. Precedents are available.
          4. +1
            25 May 2013 07: 48
            It is not necessary to keep the entire fleet in a pile. If Israel strikes at one ship in Tartus, then the rest of the ships can strike at Israeli airfields. I wonder what is called the naval modification of Iskander?
            1. 0
              26 May 2013 17: 32
              LORA

              Manufacturer Israel Aerospace Industries
              Specifications
              Weight 1.6-1.8 tons
              Length 5 meters
              Diameter 610mm
              Warhead 570 kg warhead
              Operational
              range 250-300 km
              Flight altitude 150,000 ft
              Guidance
              system GPS and TV terminal
              LORA (Acronym for LOng Range Attack) is a theater quasiballistic missile produced in Israel.

              It has a range of 250 kilometers (160 mi) and a CEP of 10 meters (33 ft) when using a combination of GPS and TV for terminal guidance.

              It can be ship-launched and land-launched.
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          1. +19
            24 May 2013 12: 18
            With regards to riots, you can’t go far behind textbooks, if you look at our opposition if we look at the current one on national grounds, then for some reason most of it is again from sunny Israel!
            1. SASCHAmIXEEW
              +9
              24 May 2013 14: 26
              So they always carried the troubles to Russia, and now they’re in power at all! How long will we tolerate them, on the smug mendel on TV, it's already disgusting to look, so tired !!!
              1. +2
                24 May 2013 18: 45
                OH HOW YOU ARE RIGHT, TIRED SIMPLY BEFORE THE BURNING !!!!!!!
            2. +2
              24 May 2013 19: 35
              Quote: Romn
              if you look at our opposition if we look at the present on nat grounds, then for some reason most of it is again from sunny Israel
              Yes, it's just clowns, the real opposition is waiting in the wings and does not twitch.
              1. SASCHAmIXEEW
                +1
                27 May 2013 12: 48
                And who is the real opposition? This is the one that is against the Jews in the government !? If so, then it's time to go free, I think the people will be "FOR" !!!
            3. nightmare12
              +4
              25 May 2013 03: 00
              And I thought that alone I think so. Each time they are shown mentally I tell them: SUITCASE STATION ISRAEL SU KI wassat
              1. Katsin
                -4
                25 May 2013 08: 50
                As a Jew and Zionist, I absolutely agree with your first 3 words
          2. Atlon
            +20
            24 May 2013 13: 35
            Quote: Bashkaus
            We do not stand still in Russia, there were already Jewish riots in former times (see the history textbook).

            I think some people forgot about the pogroms ... Someone relaxed, milked the whole world, sheared coupons from the invented Holocaust, and completely lost the ability to really assess the situation ... The world has certainly changed. He became tolerant. But, I assure you, if some people rock the boat, this last drop will fill the cup of patience, and some will remember the pogroms. Moreover, in the most cruel and merciless manifestations.
            1. SASCHAmIXEEW
              +5
              24 May 2013 14: 29
              Yes, I recall: Do not wake it up while it is quiet .... But they apparently either forgot or do not know this proverb ...
            2. Bashkaus
              +3
              24 May 2013 18: 13
              My comment has been deleted! But truths cannot be removed))) All the same, people have already snapped it into quotes!
              True, she is just such as not hiding behind political correctness, etc. and people can’t be fooled.
            3. scrack
              +1
              24 May 2013 21: 45
              As there were bloody pogroms in Kiev and Zhytomyr in due time
            4. 0
              25 May 2013 08: 14
              Before World War II, they also spoke with might and main about the United States of Europe, and ended in concentration camps. And the first pogroms must be sought not in history books, but in the annals (somewhere around the beginning of the 10th century).
            5. +3
              27 May 2013 18: 26
              I think. that the main mistake of the Jews is that they consider themselves smarter than others.
          3. Tylerdurden
            0
            24 May 2013 14: 32
            bashkaus, hi. put +. A little more detail, please, about x55
            1. Bashkaus
              +19
              24 May 2013 18: 33
              Thanks, but my comment was unfortunately deleted. Who is not in the subject, I just recalled that in the history of civilizations one "small but very proud bird" for some reason, everyone is oppressed ((
              And then he expressed the opinion that in the event of aggressive actions against Syria, Russia can afford to carry out an operation "forcing peace (insert the correct version)", reasoningly referring to the precedent of 2008. And to the criticism that Country "A" and country "B" have good military potential, I replied that everything will repeat itself as in 2008, but on a slightly larger scale. because we have a lot of rusty tanks and X55 missiles.
              I also said that Uncle Vova will culturally explain to Uncle Barack that he is wrong and the best thing for him is to smoke on the sidelines and wait until country "A" and country "B", which has received 33 pleasures, will not let go, so that he can go with them talk and provide moral support.
              And at the expense of Europe, I said that in this case, no one wakes up to talk to her, because she has the status of a "gay person in a Russian prison"
              PS those who then paid my comment (and when I went to work there were about 20 people) correct me if I made a mistake in retelling somewhere))))
              1. -3
                24 May 2013 18: 40
                Quote: Bashkaus
                The funny thing is that in Jewish forums they discuss seriously attacking our ships in Tarutus or not.

                Sergey, you’re better not a minuscule sculpt. and then drop the reference all the same. Or are you trembling again, as always?
                1. Bashkaus
                  +2
                  24 May 2013 19: 02
                  minus sculpt to no purpose.
                  And you again tore everything out of context!
                  My comment you quoted was originally my response to the comment of another person, zvereok, who actually said that the forums in one country are seriously discussing a strike on Russian ships performing shipment. I believed him (and don’t dare to blame me, you’re glad to be on the news of the Air Force and SII).
                  Here with zvereok and ask,
                  If zvereok says "guys, I was joking" then I will publicly apologize and say "Guys, sorry, the bullshit came out, led to a divorce zvereok"
                  So do not touch me before the exposure, and I’ll ask zvereok to give us all this reference, since such a thing has gone)))
                  1. -6
                    24 May 2013 19: 14
                    Quote: Bashkaus
                    My comment you quoted was originally my response to the comment of another person, zvereok, who actually said that the forums of one country are seriously discussing a strike on Russian ships performing shipment. I believed him

                    Some forums seriously discuss whether zvereok is a latent homosexual. Trust me and you can even refer to me. After zvereok resets the link, I also promise to reset the link.
                    1. +9
                      24 May 2013 21: 31
                      atalef

                      I provided the link, it turns out you are a latent homosexual.

                      By the way, how do your brothers in Judea look at this?
                2. SASCHAmIXEEW
                  +1
                  27 May 2013 12: 56
                  Are you talking about Jewish forums seriously? They definitely have something with their heads! Do not wake famously, while quietly forgot about the Russian proverb? Jew Shabber in the forehead, am I not?
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        3. +7
          24 May 2013 12: 13
          Quote: Romn
          Utopian article, it’s very nice to read it of course, but ... It’s foolish to think that Russia will strike back at Israel, the Jewish diaspora too much has taken root in all our structures!


          Why are you ... what then is Moscow on the Syrian side?

          It is foolish to think that the Russian Federation will stick with aggressors. Bear you can ask.
          1. +9
            24 May 2013 13: 17
            Quote: Geisenberg
            Quote: Romn
            Utopian article, it’s very nice to read it of course, but ... It’s foolish to think that Russia will strike back at Israel, the Jewish diaspora too much has taken root in all our structures!


            Why are you ... what then is Moscow on the Syrian side?

            It is foolish to think that the Russian Federation will stick with aggressors. Bear you can ask.

            If Romm asks Mishiko, then he will not have enough ties from such memories in the wardrobe! bully
        4. Atlon
          +19
          24 May 2013 13: 30
          Quote: Romn
          Utopian article, very nice to read it of course,

          Oh? wink
          Meanwhile ...
          - Street riots continue in Stockholm. The situation got out of control of the authorities. Over a hundred cars were burned, police stations and schools were destroyed.

          -In England, a soldier was DEMONSTRATELY executed yesterday. Muslim blacks in broad daylight first hit him with a car, and then using cleaver and machetes, they chopped it into minced meat, in front of the stunned passers-by. At the same time, they did not hide, asked passersby to take them on cameras, and talked about revenge for the wars that Britain is waging. British soldiers are FORBIDDEN to appear on the street in uniform!

          Yesterday, when I listened to the news, I could not restrain myself and gloated ... I remember how our military command forbade walking in uniform in the national republics. The West gets back what it tried to feed us. So, what seems fantastic today will be quite mundane tomorrow ...
          1. +5
            24 May 2013 15: 49
            Rollback from tolerance. And this is still only the beginning.
            1. +3
              24 May 2013 17: 30
              Quote: Mikhail3
              Recoil

              Something tells me that this pullback will be washed with blood. And very plentiful.
              The Spaniards conquered their lands from the Moors for about 700 years. I wonder how much a similar process will go on under the current conditions.
        5. DmitriRazumov
          +2
          24 May 2013 17: 00
          Quote: Romn
          And Russia will not take such a risk, starting an open aggression against a country with which they are trying so hard to establish good relations ...

          To a greater extent, Israel seeks to establish relations with the Russian Federation. Their special services are lobbying for the sale of security systems manufactured on the promised land through their Russian colleagues and much more ... Our economics. interests in Israel are much more modest.
          1. 0
            25 May 2013 08: 20
            Part of the Jewish elite began to look for a second strategic shoulder in the person of Russia, but it is very far from consensus. Moreover, conservatives can just provoke a clash with Russia so that the oncoming movement does not occur.
        6. +3
          24 May 2013 18: 27
          It all depends on Israel, everything has a "red" line
        7. Arthur Garipov
          -6
          24 May 2013 23: 20
          I agree. To strike back at Israel, one fleet is not enough. Moreover, those who betrayed Libya will most likely betray Syria. Israel will strike, and Lavrov will only be indignant, will make sour facial expressions.
          1. 0
            28 May 2013 18: 01
            Quote: Artur Garipov
            Moreover, those who betrayed Libya will most likely betray Syria

            And we know who this traitor is Sarkozy, and France in his person! They, with the allies, are now betraying Syria.
        8. +1
          25 May 2013 07: 44
          You do not find that the geopolitical position of Russia today is in a similar state, as before the deployment of missiles in Cuba. There are only two choices: the first to surrender Syria and surrender ourselves, watching how a wave of destabilization spreads to the Middle East and Kazakhstan, and the second choice, take the risk of another nuclear missile crisis and remove all geopolitical problems in the future.
        9. 0
          27 May 2013 14: 16
          Even if the Zionists will torture you (unless, of course, you are not one of them), then you will smile sweetly wink You are a diplomat! As for the Western wiseacres, what’s wrong here ... You read poorly, he warns both the West and Israel from an undesirable military conflict with Syria and, accordingly, with Russia! And the fact that in the event of a repeat of such an attack by the Israelis, Syria, read Russia, will strike back. But small-town Jews (it sounds strange - the Jewish diaspora) do not represent anything here. Another level!
        10. 0
          29 May 2013 12: 41
          I liked the article, I’m proud for the power)) But we must understand that for an effective retaliatory strike against Israel, of course, a massive use of modern missiles is necessary, and we deliver very little to Syria.
          Although it’s interesting, you can just convert the usual mediocre container ships under the platform for the P-800, S-300 and S-400, for Iskander launches. Several of these ships, under the protection and control of a normal squadron of warships, would be a serious force.
        11. 0
          6 June 2013 11: 15
          you didn’t carefully read the article, a strike on Israel after its attack on our ships.
      2. Captain Vrungel
        +20
        24 May 2013 11: 46
        When you get a kickar in the ass, then somehow you don’t think, in a old or new slipper, the kickar arrived. Anti-ship missiles and camels can be delivered to the position. When it arrives, then even a thought will not appear on which it was brought.
    2. +14
      24 May 2013 09: 35
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Zionists on the count! Let them know their place.



      The Criminal Course of Zionism, 1971 (10:10)




      Annotation: The film in an acute journalistic form reveals the face of international Zionism.

      Film description: Anti-Soviet demonstrations in the United States, a pogrom in the premises of Aeroflot, perpetrated by members of the Zionist organization in New York. A sit-down demonstration by members of the Zionist organization at the Intourist building in London in support of the Jews of the Soviet Union. International conference in Brussels. Meeting of US President R. Nixon with Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Dayan. The film uses newsreel footage of the Israeli army's military operations in the Arab territories. Type of destruction on the territory of Arab countries subjected to aggression. Expulsion of the Arabs from their territories. View of the Palestinian tent city. Israeli construction of fortifications and strategic facilities in the Sinai Desert. Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir bypasses the troops. General view of the Suez Canal. A rally in the Soviet Union in support of the Arab countries fighting the Israeli aggression.


      LOOK:
      http://dic.academic.ru/film.nsf/7048/Criminal+Course+of+Zionism.
      1. Ruslan_F38
        +30
        24 May 2013 09: 56
        Their fleet, even their old ships, will carry such artifact weapon systems as the S-400, which will give pilots only 2-3 seconds after they hear a “beep-beep” signal that is approaching them on a huge speed. Russian patrol ships will be able to shoot down any attacking Israeli aircraft, including those that will return to base after the strike. They will be able to shoot them down even on takeoff))).
        Not an article - a song! Put article bold plus. Beep-beep and ... ec)).
        1. +17
          24 May 2013 10: 22
          Quote: Ruslan_F38
          Their fleet, even their old ships, will carry such artifact weapon systems as the C-400,
          Which ship are the 400 on?
          Quote: Ruslan_F38
          Russian patrol ships will be able to shoot down any attacking Israeli aircraft, including those that will return to bases after the strike. They will be able to shoot them down even on takeoff))).
          Dreams Dreams.
          1. Bashkaus
            +11
            24 May 2013 11: 07
            Which ship are the 400 on? There is a saying, fear has great eyes. We still don’t have four hundred in the fleet, and they are already writing a cap on their knees.
            1. Vanek
              +3
              24 May 2013 11: 11
              Quote: Bashkaus
              and they are already a cap


              Is this good or bad? It’s better to overestimate than underestimate.

              Well, I think so.
            2. +1
              24 May 2013 13: 58
              Well, let them catch their own fear. Useful
          2. +7
            24 May 2013 11: 11
            Yes ... The overseas hack has obviously gone too far, praising our weapons. Besides the S-400 on our ships, the Isander has a speed of 8! Makhov painted! Is it that hypersound has already been achieved !? Connoisseur, damn it fool Although, we have enough such "military analysts". Russia, therefore, is a wild and backward country, but Western crap ... they are - YES! STRENGTHS! fool Reading is funny! An entertaining article, but no more !!!
            1. Prishtina
              +3
              24 May 2013 13: 45
              speed at OTR Iskander _ 2100m / s (open sources!) .. sound speed ~ 300m / s. Next, consider yourself .. smile
          3. +30
            24 May 2013 11: 55
            Quote: Mechanic
            Which ship are the 400 on?


            This is probably a naval version of the S-400 "Fortress". And they are planning it on destroyers that are going to lay down already in 2016. The composition of the weapons is as follows: UKSK-32 (32 missiles of the 3M55, 3M54T, 3M54T1, 3M14, 91R, 91RT2 types, Zircon in the future), the S-400 Fortress air defense system (32 48N6E3 missiles, 40N6 in the future), Redoubt air defense system ( 32 9M96E or 9M96E2 missiles, or 128 9M100 missiles), 2 ZRAK broadsword, AU 130-mm A-192, 2 57-mm AU A-220M, 2 PTC "Package", 2 14,5 mm machine guns, 2 DP-64 and 2 Ka-27PL / Ka-27M helicopters, radar with AFAR "Polyment".
            And the article is a clear provocation, recently they want to drag Russia into the war with anyone - Turkey, Israel, even China. We still have enough other methods of pressure and they are far from exhausted. It’s like playing the flip-flop game, forcing the opponent to immediately go with the trump cards so that at the end of the game they leave with his nose.
            There was an article about a promising destroyer at VO here
            1. -6
              24 May 2013 12: 56
              Quote: Ascetic
              This is probably a naval version of the S-400 "Fortress". And they are planning it for destroyers that are going to lay as early as 2016.
              Stanislav will not be the destroyer project by 16 year. In order for it to appear, you must first cut the budget for improvements, and it will be sawed for a long time.
              1. +4
                24 May 2013 13: 31
                Quote: Mechanic
                Stanislav will not be the destroyer project by 16 year. In order for it to appear, you must first cut the budget for improvements, and it will be sawed for a long time.


                But what about project 21956? What is his destiny? This year it was planned to bookmark it. In the medium term (15-20 years), it is planned to build 14-16 ships. There it was planned at least to deploy medium and long-range air defense systems of the order of 80-130 pieces (although S-300, but you can just as well stick the same "Fortress" when it is brought to mind). The sketch of the ship was presented back in 2007, or is this just talk?
                1. +3
                  24 May 2013 20: 13
                  Quote: Ascetic
                  But what about the 21956 project? What is his fate? This year, his bookmark was planned. In the medium term (15-20 years) it is planned to build 14-16 ships.
                  First you need to finish the project, and I already wrote that no one will finish the project without money.
              2. Egor.nic
                +3
                24 May 2013 15: 43
                Do not be pessimistic, look wider.
                At your glance, we are still drinking cabbage soup ....
                Not everything is as bad as it seems.
            2. -2
              24 May 2013 19: 47
              Quote: Ascetic

              And the article is a clear provocation, recently they want to drag Russia into the war with anyone - Turkey, Israel, even China.
              For a long time I did not react to your posts, but here I have to take off my hat. Of course a provocation. But this is not the main point. People who are shaking their muscles in front of Israel are not ashamed to write this? In theory, it will be like a fight between a "fly" and a "heavyweight". They also found me in front of someone to puff out my cheeks.
              1. +11
                24 May 2013 21: 18
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                In theory, it will be like a "fly" fight with a "heavyweight". They also found me in front of someone to puff out my cheeks.
                - Aaron Zaavi, of course, you are partly right, because of course different weight categories are somehow even embarrassing, but the question is that a heavyweight cannot be deliberately ignored and his interests cannot be ignored either, because even the most restless "heavyweight "has nerves and endless patience. Why pull the bear by the paws so brazenly? The request is simple - leave Syria alone, let it deal with its troubles itself, and choose its own leader in fair elections, to which the Syrian authorities themselves will agree, and Russia will give its consent. That's all! Simple, unpretentious and EASY TO DO! But no, they do everything to piss off themselves, and then - "and not ashamed? So big and healthy, but so excessively use force!" You don't need to do nasty things - and all the litigation
                1. SASCHAmIXEEW
                  +1
                  27 May 2013 13: 11
                  AKSAKALU And maybe enough to play with them in little spools? When they don’t understand the good things, they beat me in the face ...
                2. Mihail33
                  0
                  21 August 2013 20: 46
                  But who needs this Syria. Israel is against getting weapons to its sworn enemy, Hezbollah. Since I do not read posts, everyone modestly keeps silent about this issue. Like at the government level in Russia and in forums who have hands in itch. What Israeli strikes on Russian ships they mutter here, patients with a clouding in the head. You need to be treated in the psychiatric hospital where you escaped from.
                  Israel always talks about not hitting a heavy weapon with Hezbollah. Why Russia does not respond to attempts by Syria and Iran to transfer this program.
                  And on the issue of the so-called failure of Israel, the last military company in Lebanon, sweetly rubbish in the internet, we can say. Israel has achieved calm on the northern border. Hizbal has been sitting quietly and the leader has been sitting in the bunker for many years and squeals from there. He knows how to help Jordan will not help him a second time. Lebanon knows where hezbahl can be pulled by his threats to Israel
                  And Shiites with the Alawites, let them understand Syria. Israel does not support either one or the other.
                  1. olegenda
                    0
                    11 September 2013 19: 32
                    totally agree
              2. reichsmarshal
                -4
                24 May 2013 22: 33
                But in comparison with the Russian Army, the IDF is just the same "heavyweight". Ours in Syria do not have a single AWACS and there are no RVV-AE missiles (against Israeli AMRAAMs), pilots fly at most 120 hours per year (in Hel-Haavir - 300 hours per year). On land, too, there is nothing to catch: the old T-72 Merkava-IV cannot be opposed. The fleet is also not strong - the Turkish "Arli-Berk", if not destroyed, will take it out of the game. The IDF, no kidding, is much stronger than the NATO armies, and certainly not Georgia. So it would be better if the Jewish guys left Assad alone and did not bring him to sin with the Russians, otherwise it would not start (something out of the ordinary ..., and for all at once). It’s easy to ignite gasoline (in 1967 they set it on fire in just six days) - just put it out!
              3. SASCHAmIXEEW
                +1
                27 May 2013 13: 08
                Then the "fly" should keep his planes on a "leash", and not provoke a "heavyweight" And nobody puffs out his cheeks, one rocket is enough to cover the Jews with a "copper basin"!
          4. 0
            24 May 2013 21: 08
            Quote: Mechanic
            Dreams Dreams.

            - It is interesting that the most skeptics are those WHO DIRECTLY CREATE MILITARY EQUIPMENT. laughing What is VAF (aviation), what is Mechanic. All this is strange what
            I can only assume one thing - they know for sure what they are creating laughing And this knowledge does not add optimism to them at all. But to the question - why, then, they create such that they themselves are inspired by skepticism - there will definitely not be an answer laughing Also offended.
            I went drinks drink, and the first toast will be - whatever, WHO DIRECTLY CREATES MILITARY EQUIPMENT - have finally become optimistic smile
            1. +4
              24 May 2013 21: 39
              Quote: aksakal
              It is interesting that the most skeptics are those WHO DIRECTLY CREATE MILITARY EQUIPMENT.
              Dear, it’s not a matter of technology. She is excellent in Russia. The point is disappointment in the system, but struggling with it is not a technique to do.
              1. +2
                24 May 2013 22: 01
                Quote: Mechanic
                She is excellent in Russia

                - glad to hear that. Finally, at least from the pros I heard praise for Russian technology. I'll go again, I will snore for it drinks
                And as for the system, where can you find a good one? If you really quite objectively approach and evaluate the system of the States, Germany and others, everywhere your cockroaches. And in Russia, not the largest.
                I have a feeling that the denouement is approaching. As in the film - there is a plot development law. The prologue (background), the development of the conflict, the conflict itself (apogee) and the ending.
                In the United States, the incomprehensible Boston terrorist attack, while all the FBI men who worked in key areas of the investigation on this terrorist attack, are killed. In Russia, Medvedev’s right-wingers, Dvorkovich, have frankly neglected ordinary FSO workers ... Yes, this isn’t a system - everything goes different, that is getting ready. Boston is somehow great on the burning of the Reichstag looks like in the 30s of the last century. And you are a system laughing
                1. +3
                  24 May 2013 23: 11
                  Quote: aksakal
                  And as for the system, where can you find a good one?
                  In this regard, a clear planning system of the USSR looks very profitable. In 1980, UVZ produced 200 tanks a month and also made civilian products; now they cannot even make 50 a month. So you start to think.
    3. yak69
      +8
      24 May 2013 10: 01
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Zionists on the count! Let them know their place.

      It's time, everyone has been waiting!
      And not only them. On good, it is necessary to put the entire geyropu there, the more so since they have been scratching their dupa for a long time, they do not know who else to substitute it for, so they could blow it. So, let them be built in line - we will plant them one at a time, slowly, so that the pleasure becomes unforgettable. laughing
      1. Bashkaus
        +8
        24 May 2013 11: 11
        Just the same it is necessary for a dry, rough and without the right to merge in the future, so that even thoughts would no longer be repeated. In the 40s we didn’t get them, and now disentangle.
        1. 0
          24 May 2013 12: 23
          Quote: Bashkaus
          Just the same it is necessary for a dry, rough and without the right to merge in the future, so that even thoughts would no longer be repeated. In the 40s, we missed them

          miserable how much you don’t get into the snout; you need to create conditions for migration and re-educate here (in the north we have enough places for development)
    4. +2
      24 May 2013 19: 14
      Given that Sodom sin was not invented in Ryazan, it is hardly necessary to count: some of them, from the Zionists, will be able to get pleasure! Yes, and somehow it does not sound tolerant ... You offer some kind of modern method! I suggest hard labor, well, or as they call it now - community service, on the analysis of rubble, somewhere in the vicinity of Damascus!)))
    5. S_mirnov
      +2
      24 May 2013 23: 08
      "Zionists for a stake! Let them know their place." - so they will like it there! And then can we start with the Russian Zionists?
      http://demotivation.me/h2p773452corpic.html#.UYzGjkrvvlc
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        0
        27 May 2013 13: 23
        First of all with them .. Too much divorced both in power and in the oligarchy !!!! All the troubles of RUSSIA from them !!! Drive after trial and imprisonment on the "promised land" !!! Clear the Russian land of them completely !!!! Let them live wherever they want, but not with us !!! I'm sure all Russians will vote for this !!!!!
    6. +1
      24 May 2013 23: 17
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Zionists on the count! Let them know their place.

      Kindergarten, by golly! It means war!
    7. faraon
      -1
      28 May 2013 13: 46
      Yes, it’s actually not the Zionists. The thing is suddenly remember Damascus managed to suppress all radio electronics. calmly otbambitsya and leave. so now they will do it. Progress does not stand still. And in Russia I would not advise to put your nose into Middle Eastern affairs. For Israel it would be better if there were Assad and not a gang of Fanatics. And the fact that it bombes caravans with Hezbollah’s Russian weapons are the same as Alkaeda’s struggle against terror.
      1. Ruslan_F38
        +1
        28 May 2013 18: 47
        Leave your advice to yourself, have occupied someone else's land, and even give out the advice, the insolent Israeli.
      2. 0
        28 May 2013 20: 28
        Quote: faraon
        And I would not advise Russia to stick its nose into Middle Eastern affairs.

        Remembered
        Hornless peppy horn cow
        The blacksmith forged from metal.
        And so - she butted the enemy,
        Become a veal protector?

        Not at all. The uninitiated enemy is alive and well,
        Feeling he considers fable:
        He knows a herd of horned cows
        Flocks of sheep are not more dangerous.

        The cow is strong and strict as before
        But here is the paradox: for some reason
        As soon as the cow got the horns
        Butting was gone hunting.
        wink
      3. +1
        28 May 2013 20: 35
        Quote: faraon
        And I would not advise Russia to stick its nose into Middle Eastern affairs.
        Well, I would advise you not to poke your nose into the affairs of Russia, otherwise she is a darling, she may turn around carelessly and "smear" all such "well-wishers" into a "thin sheet"
        1. 0
          28 May 2013 20: 48
          Quote: svp67
          otherwise she’s a darling, she can turn inaccurately

          And then
          epic hero, went to fight for justice with a three-headed snake.
          After a long search, the hero discovered a large mountain, and in it a cave. He got up at the entrance to the cave and let's shout:
          - Zmey Gorynych! Come out, we will fight!
          Screaming, screaming, no answer.
          Suddenly, from somewhere on the side - a huge head
          - Well, fight like that! But why yell in the ass?

      4. mihasik
        0
        30 May 2013 21: 01
        In 2008, you also armed Georgians to fight terror? !!! When women and children were shot? !!! When our peacekeepers were killed? !!! You climbed into the Caucasus, and now what are you advising us? Say thank you that then they did not give a snot! Well, now wait for a response from Hezbollah!)))
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  2. patline
    +7
    24 May 2013 09: 18
    artwork rockets

    Well said))) And the whole article is not bad.
    1. +2
      24 May 2013 09: 36
      Quote: patline
      Well said

      So good that thoughtfully scratching my head.
      Their updated Iskander missiles are said to be have a speed in the range of Mach 6-7, but our sources say that their speed is over Mach 8.

      If this is true ...... then just cool twist.
      1. +5
        24 May 2013 12: 47
        Quote: Scoun
        If this is true ...... then just cool twist.


        If we talk about the 9M723 rocket and its modifications, then its flight speed in the atmosphere is 2100 m / s, and in the vicinity of the surface 700-800 m / s. About the vertical angle of diving and overload in 20-30G this is true. If you measure speed using the Mach number, then you should probably consider that in the Earth’s atmosphere at altitudes of 10-25 km it is equal to 295 m / s or 1060 km / h. At the surface of the earth at a temperature of 15ºС, the speed of sound is 340 m / s or 1220 km / h. Here and count.
        1. bulgurkhan
          -5
          24 May 2013 13: 01
          The Iranian article is not even worth discussing.
          http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/05/20/304416/russian-med-fleet-warning-to-isra
          he /
      2. Prishtina
        -1
        24 May 2013 13: 47
        Damn men, the speed of OTR Isk-a open source_ 2100m / s ... the speed of sound is approx. 300m / s. How many mach can you calculate yourself)
  3. +27
    24 May 2013 09: 19
    the article looks like some kind of hysteria - "RUSSIANS HAVE COME! ALL PI ..." request
    just Russia defends its interests. It is high time!
    1. +5
      24 May 2013 10: 03
      Quote: self-propelled
      the article looks like some kind of hysteria - "RUSSIANS HAVE COME! ALL PI ..." request
      just Russia defends its interests. It is high time!


      The West has always perceived the Russians as a scarecrow. So there is a reason they are afraid.
      1. +23
        24 May 2013 11: 38
        Quote: Ross
        The West has always perceived the Russians as a scarecrow. So there is a reason they are afraid.


        "Throughout the XNUMXth century, the Russians studied French - the army walked to Paris, in the first half of the XNUMXth century, the Russians learned German - the red flag over the Reichstag, now we are massively learning English - are London and / or Washington next in line?" (from) laughing
        1. +7
          24 May 2013 11: 41
          Learn English, and the most perspicacious begin to learn Chinese))).
          1. SASCHAmIXEEW
            +2
            24 May 2013 14: 43
            A very interesting analogy, if so, then we should be in China! And I really hope the merchants, not the soldiers !!!
          2. Gemar
            +6
            24 May 2013 17: 09
            Quote: zvereok
            Learn English, and the most perspicacious begin to learn Chinese))).

            And the most intelligent teach the Kalashnikov structure. soldier
          3. +1
            24 May 2013 21: 45
            i am learning thai boxing laughing
        2. +5
          24 May 2013 13: 35
          By the way, an interesting thought! You can throw as a trolling on some European or Amerov forum)))
        3. Egor.nic
          +3
          24 May 2013 15: 44
          Why do you need these homosexuals, they themselves are squandered ....
      2. +4
        24 May 2013 14: 00
        And then! In an embrace with a drunk bear, which in a hat with earflaps also plays on a balalaika ... W-F-W-HORR !!! am
      3. SASCHAmIXEEW
        +2
        27 May 2013 13: 32
        Let them be afraid! For me, so I would have lowered the "curtain", too much shit floats to us! Youth is not persistent corrupts !!! The family began to raise children badly !!!! Forgotten-bring up while it lies across, it will lie along-it is useless ...
    2. Artmark
      +3
      24 May 2013 11: 54
      Totally agree good It’s just that Russia decided to show everyone its places soldier
    3. +1
      24 May 2013 17: 35
      Quote: self-propelled
      ! ALL PI ...

      Only specially chosen lol
    4. RUSSIA 2013
      0
      25 May 2013 13: 59
      Quote: self-propelled
      the article looks like some kind of hysteria - "RUSSIANS HAVE COME! ALL PI ..." request
      just Russia defends its interests. It is high time!

      I completely agree with you, we, as a Great Power, with many centuries of history, have every right to defend our interests, to help our allies, countries friendly to us. T, to, the evil empire represented by the USA and NATO bear on our shoulders shit democracy, destroying the rules of world law, bringing hunger, death, destruction of sovereignty to sovereign states that simply want to live, live without submitting to the temptation of Satonian evil that the United States and its allies bear, in the form of debauchery, violence, where the dollar rules and there is no future .
  4. +3
    24 May 2013 09: 21
    ... "Expect Israeli strikes on shipments of Russian arms supplies to Syria-Hezbollah ... US authorities told the Wall Street Journal that the next round of Israeli airstrikes could target new Russian shipments of modern Yakhont anti-ship missiles ..."

    How long to wait, as usual, for three years, or what?
  5. +18
    24 May 2013 09: 21
    Quote: self-propelled
    Tatiya looks like some kind of hysteria - "RUSSIANS HAVE COME! ALL PI ..."

    This Russian group will already be a bone in the throat of Israel and the West as a whole. All right. Already sitting in the sun and drinking viskar with ice from the West will not work!
  6. +5
    24 May 2013 09: 22
    And what a normal scenario! But life, it puts other introductory .. hi
    1. Hudo
      +4
      24 May 2013 09: 31
      Quote: sscha
      And what a normal scenario! But life, it puts other introductory .. hi


      That’s why the commander’s head was given to him so that he was ready to act quickly and decisively according to the introductory, and not just wear a hat with a cockade. soldier
  7. -28
    24 May 2013 09: 24
    Your lips, yes, honey to drink. wassat
    1. Vanek
      +8
      24 May 2013 09: 28
      So what? Bench press.

      Ahhh
      1. +10
        24 May 2013 11: 48
        Quote: Vanek
        So what? Bench press.
        Ivan, remember the old joke.
        The hippo lies in a swamp and cracks crack. A bear walks by and says
        - Well yes.
        It goes again and again.
        -Well yes. Goes the third time.
        -Well yes.
        - Well, yes?
        - So would e ----- ohm and honey would slurp.
      2. -18
        24 May 2013 14: 20
        Quote: Vanek
        So what? Bench press.

        Why would you really think that the presence of the Russian fleet will affect the situation on BV?
        The fleet is strong, weapons are good, sailors are brave, but they still won’t fight, even in the years more prosperous for the USSR they didn’t climb, now even more so.
        1. +12
          24 May 2013 15: 03
          Quote: Toit
          Why would you really think that the presence of the Russian fleet will affect the situation on BV?
          The fleet is strong, weapons are good, sailors are brave, but they still won’t fight, even in the years more prosperous for the USSR they didn’t climb, now even more so.


          Calm yourself calm. But the stars you still have to rake sooner or later. Be it from Russia or someone else. You can’t live the Century at the expense of the whole world, steal wherever possible, do dirty deeds and not get stars. This is not my young Jewish friend. Can not be.
        2. Egor.nic
          +5
          24 May 2013 16: 06
          According to the chess players: you can make a move with a knight and win the game.
          As the Jews say: it cost me just a feint with my ears ....
          The bottom line is - how not to twist the ears the alignment is changing, and not in favor of the Zionists or the West ....
          1. 0
            24 May 2013 17: 39
            Quote: Egor.nic
            As the Jews say: it cost me just a feint with my ears ....


            No need to offend the players! So they talked about good dribblers. I remember such a feint performed by Daraselia in the final of CC 81g. I beat 3x with my ears. Germans. True from the GDR. "Karl-Zeiss".
        3. Atlon
          0
          24 May 2013 18: 12
          Quote: Toit
          Why would you really think that the presence of the Russian fleet will affect the situation on BV?

          Jewish pogrom - a mass violent action committed by a part of society towards Jews as a national and religious minority. Pogroms are one of the typical manifestations of anti-Semitism - the ideology of a hostile attitude towards Jews.

          Jewish pogroms at various times swept through many countries in which Jews lived. In particular, in the Middle Ages, large-scale pogroms took place in England, Germany, France, the Czech Republic, Switzerland, and a number of other countries.
          1. SASCHAmIXEEW
            +2
            27 May 2013 13: 48
            And why did the Jews in these countries do such a thing that they began to destroy all of them, both small and old! Probably they offended the people living there? After all, a fly just doesn’t land on the city! And now zhi.osionisty get the people, and not one, but many in different countries !!! But they think of amers, and they are puppets from zhi.osionistkogo money bag !! It is necessary to destroy the Zionist fascists, that's the main evil !!!
        4. mihasik
          0
          30 May 2013 21: 07
          Check on Tartus whether or not they will ...
    2. +8
      24 May 2013 10: 12
      Quote: Toit
      Your lips, yes, honey to drink.


      Well ... one thing you can do. The reason is soaking ...
      1. yustas
        +21
        24 May 2013 10: 19
        Good day, namesake!
        Well, their hands still loot well they think, maybe they should help in the development of a two-handed saw, what do you think?
        The bench press has already worked for all of them, the main thing now is for our systematically to crush their position, otherwise they got these demo cockroaches and there’s nothing worse to come up with. By the way, we are here with comrades at work, now we call LGBTshnikov Liberasts, even consonantly =)
        from the bottom of my heart to Ural, greetings from Siberia =)

        PySy

        While the Russian soldier
        There are bullets, matches, moonshine,
        Suck NATO soldiers
        Trembling with fear, the Pentagon!
        1. +7
          24 May 2013 10: 25
          Hello namesake. As these ... already got it. While here, it seems like nothing. Toko will be dumped there for permanent residence - do not know !!! "Here we have ... here we have!" "And you, and you ...". Ugh! Siberia is also huge. I'm going there soon in cmndr. to Tomsk.
      2. +3
        24 May 2013 11: 02
        pensioner
        As a pensioner to a pensioner, I put +++++++ and I agree 100% !!! good drinks wink
        1. 0
          24 May 2013 11: 17
          Quote: soaring
          As a senior citizen to senior citizen


          I’m preparing to join this elite club.
          1. +2
            24 May 2013 12: 29
            We will accept anything! )))
      3. +8
        24 May 2013 13: 10
        Quote: retired
        Well ... one thing you can do. The reason is soaking ...


        At the same time, with a sadomasochistic moaning to hang noodles on the ears of simpletons about the policy of state anti-Semitism in the USSR, quotas for Jews, hard life, discrimination and hunger (you might think that in the Union everyone else except Jews was "chosen"). renegades does not pass without leaving a trace and affects the consciousness of the individual, even at the genetic level.
        1. SASCHAmIXEEW
          +10
          24 May 2013 15: 02
          At the genetic level, they are enemies to us, when they rushed to Khozaria for permanent residence and did not cease to be them, it was not for nothing that our tsars in the old days always drove them from our borders. So no, they climbed through Poland and Belarus, and leaked through Khrushchev and Andropov to the top, no wonder the 5th point was and now it is necessary to introduce from such "friends" it is necessary to defend themselves in the authorities !! Let the Europods play until the end !!! Our end, after the end of all other civilizations, who does not wake up to be friends with us !!!
        2. -9
          24 May 2013 19: 51
          What did the political rot rot again?
          1. AlexW
            +2
            24 May 2013 20: 31
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            What did the political rot rot again?

            How to understand this? How many political commanders knew, almost all "God's chosen". Yes, and in the departments of "scientific communism" completely Shapiro, Sungurovskie and Furmanovs, etc. .. Why are the places warm, not dusty - "they are ill for everything, they are not responsible for anything" wassat
      4. -10
        24 May 2013 14: 20
        Quote: retired
        Well ... one thing you can do. The reason is soaking ...

        For example, Share hidden fantasies)))
        1. +6
          24 May 2013 15: 07
          Quote: Toit
          Well ... one thing you can do. The reason is soaking ...


          It was a figurative expression. But since you take this statement seriously, your fantasy is not all right.
          Remember, Russians are not pigeons for you ... do not interrogate with suction of mercy!
          1. +2
            24 May 2013 17: 43
            !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! +++++++++++++++++++
        2. +2
          24 May 2013 17: 46
          Listen-ah-ah! Toit-you're deep as a toilet !! I don’t understand anything ... Deeply you hide the thought, deeply ... Well then, take it yourself!
          1. 0
            24 May 2013 18: 06
            Well, since you set a minus to me, I feel the joke hasn’t disappeared ... If anything, please contact. I have them, a whole factory ...
            1. 0
              24 May 2013 18: 12
              minus, minus ... The finger is not a conscience - it’s hard to dry out ...
        3. 0
          28 May 2013 14: 10
          Quote: Toit
          For example, Share hidden fantasies)))

          Its not enough ????? and here on someone else's hump feel am tongue
      5. 0
        24 May 2013 17: 41
        They chewed a little ... It’s even a shame ... Itut could bring us ..
    3. +6
      24 May 2013 11: 02
      By the way, where did you get a keyboard with a Russian layout?) I suppose you ordered an ebay specialist?)
      1. yustas
        +7
        24 May 2013 12: 34
        Quote: Phantom Revolution
        By the way, where did you get a keyboard with a Russian layout

        No, they are given to them in the IDF for subversive activities in GREAT Russia. Well, something like this I see, though, they don’t give out but sell, at a discount =)
        1. +1
          24 May 2013 14: 24
          Quote: yustas
          No, they are given in the IDF


          Yeah, they will issue, the whole keyboard - SHCHAZZ. Yes, they strangle themselves in 1 key.
        2. 0
          24 May 2013 14: 26
          Zvini Eustace did not read your comment to the end ... It’s like this for me ..
      2. 0
        24 May 2013 14: 22
        Quote: Phantom Revolution
        By the way, where did you get a keyboard with a Russian layout?) I suppose you ordered an ebay specialist?)

        In any store sold
        1. +3
          24 May 2013 15: 49
          Quote: Toit
          In any store sold

          Yes, just the same in any?))) hi I thought something original would come up.)
          You can see that in the Russian Federation in any store you can find a keyboard purely with an English or Chinese layout))) Everywhere there are)))) laughing
        2. +1
          24 May 2013 18: 05
          Quote: Toit
          In any store sold

          Already said
          There is a Russian spirit ... there it smells of Rus!

          Eh hehe, even stole it!
          wink
    4. Bashkaus
      +10
      24 May 2013 11: 13
      If you need petroleum jelly, contact, tomorrow it will be much more expensive and only for kosher KC))) Probably not used to what would you like for a dry JAG-JAG.
      Be courageous to the end, sometimes you have to face the truth and endure the "break off"
      1. +3
        24 May 2013 15: 50
        not only break off, but also get .... bitingly, in the impudent Jewish face! laughing
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  8. +11
    24 May 2013 09: 25
    Article +! But I don’t share the author’s optimism about the fact that the United States will step back if Israel is too “brisk to act”. Do not forget in whose hands the banks are!
    1. +4
      24 May 2013 09: 39
      Well, in the case of the Buchi, the United States can do whatever it takes .. and with a rattling of arms, they will aggravate the situation to the highest boiling point and throw the dollar and all the creditors out of the blue ...
      and the whole world will sigh calmly say figs with him with the dollar .. the main thing is that the third world did not happen.
    2. Pit
      Pit
      +9
      24 May 2013 10: 10
      Quote: Egoza
      Do not forget in whose hands the banks!

      Those in whose hands banks look at Israel as well as the whole east, stupidly cut the dough. And if they themselves were there, then purely on tour packages and live in more peaceful places. But then they will have one more reason to take care of the Jewish genocide. So what is likely to happen as he says
      Scoun Today, 09:39
      , And then for half a century of yelling that the Russians killed a trillion innocent Jews.
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        0
        24 May 2013 15: 21
        Banks in the hands of Jewish Zionists, the first blow must be struck at the Fed and the places where the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Dupons, Bush and all the scum, through the fault of which millions of people around the world are killed !!! All the wars from their submission, in them, circumcised on the eighth day and born of a Jewess, sits a gene of profit and hatred for other people, it’s not for nothing that we are goyim for them, who should serve them in the Old Testament and their Talmud, everything is prescribed for them, who is who!!!
        1. Katsin
          -2
          25 May 2013 09: 09
          What a medieval nonsense, what a blessing to live in a Jewish country and to serve in the Jewish army ... I would like to read this forum to my children, so that they understand why Israel exists
          1. 0
            25 May 2013 15: 28
            the main thing - do not forget to say - thanks to which country does Israel even exist stop
          2. kirmikchi181178
            0
            26 May 2013 09: 40
            You probably forgot to whom they owe a happy life, after the 2nd World War. To a Russian soldier.
          3. mihasik
            0
            30 May 2013 21: 15
            At the same time, tell me who put you there instead of Crimea, (unless of course you know what I mean)). Just do not say that the whales helped you with the country). Grandfather Stalin determined your place there).
    3. +5
      24 May 2013 10: 30
      Quote: Egoza
      Just do not share the optimism of the author about the fact that the United States will step back, e

      Elena, they there in Congress already adopted the law as a united front. That they will fully support Israel militarily. And boats there with cruise missiles do not fry kebabs.
    4. +7
      24 May 2013 11: 06
      Do you think that our General Staff does not understand who is behind Israel?
      If a blow is struck (and it will be inflicted on them in the end), then everything will be ready for the punishment of the main "radish" - the United States.
      1. -11
        24 May 2013 14: 24
        Quote: Shelezyak
        If a blow is struck (and it will be inflicted on them in the end), then everything will be ready for the punishment of the main "radish" - the United States.

        Neighing, write more)))
    5. +2
      24 May 2013 11: 47
      Of course, a financial and banking blockade of the United States can be arranged, but Iran somehow lives in it. Besides, even in Iraq, they bought oil, calling it humanitarian "Oil in exchange for food." In relation to us they will call: Life and warmth in winter in exchange for sneakers.
      1. Bashkaus
        +3
        24 May 2013 18: 44
        Of course, the United States may arrange a financial-banking blockade, but Iran somehow lives in it.
        But if you think well, if we are driven into a blockade, then what? There is already Iran, the same Syria, we have 1/6 of the earth, oil, gas like dirt, for three we’ll figure it out ... the rest will be envious)))
        1. -2
          24 May 2013 18: 49
          Quote: Bashkaus
          There is already Iran, the same Syria, we have 1/6 of the earth, oil, gas as dirt, for three such a figure.

          Will you push oil and gas to each other?
          It's like an anecdote - Russian business
          Steal a box of vodka. sell half the price, and drink the money.
          1. +1
            24 May 2013 19: 22
            Quote: atalef
            It's like an anecdote - Russian business

            Well, not Jewish
            The Jew answers: “Firstly, the broth remains from the eggs, and most importantly - I'm in business!” (Another option: - A fat?)

            bully
          2. 0
            24 May 2013 20: 13
            Quote: atalef
            Will you push oil and gas to each other?
            It's like an anecdote - Russian business


            Kakbo Union perfectly pushed oil and gas to the capitalists and even China did not consume so much then.
            You better think about yourself - what will you do if you yourself have to invest in the defense budget and not get handouts from the states?
          3. +2
            24 May 2013 20: 15
            Yes, do not care about this Western world, if the borders are closed, and their hell is closed - they opened it for robbery, the West will lose more, it does not need another USSR 2.0. all western values ​​at once with a broomstick, and all that the liberals have accomplished in the past 20 years, down the drain. and if the country has order to the USSR 2.0, neighboring countries will stretch and blockades will fail.
          4. mogus
            0
            25 May 2013 03: 02
            BRICS China and Brazil with machine tools (industry) and food, let's figure something out ... China also does not need torn Syria. India has a place ...
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  9. +6
    24 May 2013 09: 25
    Well, yes, yes, as the unforgettable Sparrow said. Namely nuclear weapons, Iskanders. But what is not a full-scale invasion of Israeli territory? Such adults, and all fairy tales believe.
    1. +6
      24 May 2013 09: 59
      Quote: Mechanic
      Such adults, and all fairy tales believe.

      Good afternoon!
      I'm shocked, terrified.
      I re-read it 2 times, fortunately the "note" is not 500 pages long.
      1. +4
        24 May 2013 10: 28
        Greetings fellow countryman.
        Quote: Papakiko
        I re-read it 2 times, fortunately the "note" is not 500 pages long.
        Oh, these tales, oh, these storytellers. laughing
        1. VAF
          VAF
          +5
          24 May 2013 12: 33
          Quote: Mechanic
          Oh, these tales, oh, these storytellers.


          Zhenya, these are not "fairy tales" .. these are "galyuniki" and from what .. there are mushrooms or grass .... their enemies cannot be understood.
          Article !!!!
          MINUS! soldier
          1. 0
            24 May 2013 12: 59
            Quote: vaf
            Zhenya, these are not "fairy tales" .. these are "galyuniki" and from what .. there are mushrooms or grass .... their enemies cannot be understood.
            Article !!!!
            MINUS!
            Hello, Sergey. I don’t know what the author is sitting on, but I already envy him. laughing
          2. 0
            24 May 2013 21: 48
            both that and another apparently wink
    2. 0
      30 May 2013 21: 22
      Quote: Mechanic
      Why isn’t a full-scale invasion?

      It has already begun!
      drinks
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  11. +1
    24 May 2013 09: 27
    Who knows in the composition of our fleet there are submarines, I mean which one is sent to Syria ???
    1. +4
      24 May 2013 09: 44
      In previous maneuvers, as they said there were diesel engines.
  12. 0
    24 May 2013 09: 28
    Maybe I missed something, but it seems like Iskanders fly a little slower, at least according to the declared parameters hi
    1. +3
      24 May 2013 09: 52
      Quote: Andrey57
      Maybe I missed something, but it seems like Iskanders fly a little slower, at least according to the declared parameters hi


      The speed of the rocket after the initial portion of the trajectory is 2100 m / s, which is approximately 6,3 Mach, and if the R-500 rocket (cruise, subsonic) is used, then approximately 0,8 Mach.
      1. sashka
        0
        24 May 2013 10: 02
        Quote: Rebus
        The speed of the rocket after the initial portion of the trajectory is 2100 m / s, which is approximately 6,3 Mach, and if the R-500 rocket (cruise, subsonic) is used, then approximately 0,8 Mach.

        Actually, the speed of sound is about 1050 m / s .. And one max is equal to one speed of sound. Or does it seem to me?
        1. +10
          24 May 2013 10: 07
          Quote: Sasha
          Actually, the speed of sound is about 1050 m / s .. Or does it seem to me like that?

          - A physics textbook to help you. The speed of sound when dispersed in airspace is 330 m / s, not more.
          In the aquatic environment - significantly higher. On metal, sound travels at a speed of generally 5500 m / s.
          Physics, physics, and again physics. All military equipment is based on physics, partly on chemistry and information theory. The rest is physics, mechanics, and other physical disciplines. I recommend the study guide Von Neumann. Landau's textbook is a mockery of a student, although Landau himself is a great physicist.
          1. +3
            24 May 2013 10: 22
            Quote: aksakal
            The speed of sound when dispersed in airspace is 330 m / s, not more.

            This is at normal pressure and air temperature 0 degrees Celsius, at a temperature of 20 degrees the speed of sound is already 343 m / s hi
            1. +4
              24 May 2013 10: 46
              Quote: Rebus
              This is at normal pressure and air temperature 0 degrees Celsius, at a temperature of 20 degrees the speed of sound is already 343 m / s

              - Oops, thanks, forgot to mention it. smile
              Quote: Sasha
              Actually, the speed of sound is about 1050 m / s ..
              - Sashka simply mixed up, 1050 m / s is 1050 km / h, if you translate 330-340 m / s into km / h.
              1. Airman
                0
                24 May 2013 12: 32
                [quote = aksakal] [quote = Rebus] If
                - Oops, thanks, forgot to mention it. smile [quote = sashka] Actually, the speed of sound is about 1050 m / s .. [/ quote] - Sasha just mixed up, 1050 m / s is 1050 km / h, if you translate 330-340 m / s into km / h. [/ quote]
                If 330-340 m / s is multiplied by 3600 s, then we get 1188-1224 km / h
          2. sashka
            +1
            24 May 2013 11: 38
            Quote: aksakal
            - A physics textbook to help you.

            Forgive the fool .. I mixed up the meters and kilometers. Seconds and hours .. The demon got it, however)) In the form of alcohol ..
          3. +2
            24 May 2013 15: 33
            Quote: aksakal
            Landau's textbook is a mockery of a student, although Landau himself is a great physicist.


            About how !!!!
            Only those who have passed the "Dau school" can be called a physicist !!!!
            1. 0
              24 May 2013 21: 28
              Quote: Chen
              Only those who have passed the "Dau school" can be called a physicist !!!!

              - A physicist, yes. But in order to just understand physics and not get on the mess and blunders, which are sometimes published in the media, enough Feynman lectures on physics.
          4. Katsin
            -2
            25 May 2013 09: 15
            Landau is a great physicist? What are you? It can’t be. .... We are only traders and thieves ... Surely there was a talented Russian scientist, and Landau stole his work. Understand and report to us)))))
        2. 0
          24 May 2013 10: 10
          Quote: Sasha
          Actually, the speed of sound is about 1050 m / s .. Or does it seem to me like that?

          It seems to you ... In each environment, sound travels at different speeds.
          The speed of sound in air is approximately 340 m / s and depends on temperature and air density.
          The speed of sound in water is 1500 m / s.
          The speed of sound in metals, in steel - 5000 m / s.
          http://www.dpva.info/Guide/GuidePhysics/Sound/SoundSpeedAirTemperature/
          1. +4
            24 May 2013 14: 08
            And rumors and fears finally can have no equal in speed! am
            1. SASCHAmIXEEW
              0
              24 May 2013 15: 31
              And the more they will be, the better !!!
        3. 0
          24 May 2013 11: 55
          The speed of sound into the air is about 300-340 m / s or 1080-1224 km / h.
        4. 0
          24 May 2013 17: 55
          Quote: Sasha
          sound speed about 1050 m / s ... Or so it seems to me?

          If instead m / s substitute km / h something similar will be _ 1080. When using the numbers 300 instead of 330.
          In general, from a number of _
          Landowners live off the money taken from the peasants.

          bully
    2. Nitup
      0
      24 May 2013 10: 25
      in my opinion, 2,1 km / s, which is about 6M
  13. KCC
    KCC
    +16
    24 May 2013 09: 28
    Israel bombed in Syria without considering all the consequences of such an act. When they thought carefully, the Israeli prime minister flew urgently to Putin, judging by his face after a conversation, he did not hear good things from Putin. I am sure Israel will now be more careful in its actions with Syria or will receive an adequate response.
    1. +15
      24 May 2013 09: 48
      Quote: KCC
      judging by his face after a good conversation, he did not hear from Putin

      “Netanyahu is not Golda Meir, dumb as a cork.” First it bombes, then it thinks, but did he do it right? Judging by the consequences, not very laughing
      Well, let the Jewish comrades not be offended - Netanyahu mows, first of all thinking about his bed on airplanes, and for some reason Jewish pilots should disentangle his jambs laughing Even if the six S-300 batteries are overcome by some kind of losses, this will be only the beginning, and the end for Israel can become completely sad. Jews are better off thinking about their own skin in this situation, and not about how to serve the Americans. The Jews did not need to bomb Damascus for nothing, all these "threats to transfer to Hezbollah" are fiction for fools, this is just a stupid request of the amers. Are the Amer worth the consequences?
    2. Airman
      +3
      24 May 2013 12: 44
      Quote: KCC
      Israel bombed in Syria without considering all the consequences of such an act. When they thought carefully, the Israeli prime minister flew urgently to Putin, judging by his face after a conversation, he did not hear good things from Putin. I am sure Israel will now be more careful in its actions with Syria or will receive an adequate response.

      And now, if only our Supreme had the determination to make a decision without looking back at the United States and NATO, then everything will be the way. The Jews, having received the wort, must shut up right away.
  14. SCS
    SCS
    +10
    24 May 2013 09: 30
    And if the Russians respond to the Israeli attack, believe me, the United States will not intercede.

    A moot point. but this is not the point, but the fact that the current situation is the formation of a new world order! therefore, we must not concede !!!
    1. Katsin
      -3
      25 May 2013 12: 16
      Give in to whom? America? But it is incomparably stronger than you in all respects (except for nuclear weapons, and this is a paper tiger, no one will use it). Choose an object of hatred that you can (like Turkey)
  15. +4
    24 May 2013 09: 31
    Like our ships start to shoot in defense of Syria.?.
    If I’m wrong, correct, I don’t remember so even USSR shot ...
    Pontezstvo, in the permitted framework, in front of the hamsters ... no more negative .
    1. Vanek
      +10
      24 May 2013 09: 32
      Quote: Yves762
      I don’t remember even the USSR shooting ...


      Vietnam, anti-aircraft gunners ...
      1. +5
        24 May 2013 09: 36
        Quote: Vanek
        Vietnam, anti-aircraft gunners ...
        Well, pilots and specialists. Everyone was shooting there. And in general, from the entire "grouping", which ship can work for ground targets?
        1. Vanek
          +2
          24 May 2013 09: 41
          Quote: Mechanic
          And in general, from the entire "grouping", which ship can work for ground targets?


          Do I know ???

          Eugene hi
        2. +1
          24 May 2013 09: 54
          Quote: Mechanic
          Well, pilots and specialists. Everyone was shooting there. And in general, from the entire "grouping", which ship can work for ground targets?

          - Only once did the Soviet ships consider it necessary to quickly flush away. This is when the USSR squadron went on a friendly visit to Chile to President Allende, but just before entering Chile in Santiago, a bucha started by Pinochet. Well, our ships blew out of there with all their might. If they went in - they won’t be able to keep silent, when they kill the legitimately elected President of Chile, they would have to
          Quote: Yves762
          our ships will start shooting
          , and this is only 9 years (approximately) before the end of the Caribbean crisis.
        3. +5
          24 May 2013 10: 02
          Quote: Mechanic
          And in general, from the entire "grouping", which ship can work for ground targets?

          - I do not think that it will be necessary to work on ground targets. Russian ships are there to prevent a direct invasion of Syria from the sea. And for ground battles - let the Syrians disentangle themselves, and for this they will put both the S-300 and the Iskander. They have the rest. Russia should not completely solve the problems of Syria, the support of the obviously NOT VIABLE regime is a bad job. The viability of a regime is determined by the successful defense of threats equivalent to that regime, and protecting from threats is easier to kill than to shake it on a created and barely alive one. laughing
          1. +1
            24 May 2013 14: 12
            The Iskander may not deliver, but Tochka-U is just right. And they seemed to be going to write them off.
      2. rolik
        +5
        24 May 2013 10: 59
        Quote: Vanek
        Vietnam, anti-aircraft gunners ...

        Angola, Honduras and many more where))))))
        1. +3
          24 May 2013 11: 52
          Egypt against the Jews.
    2. Hudo
      +1
      24 May 2013 09: 38
      The very presence of real military force will spoil the ardor of those who like to fly around like a fly on glass. Their heads are not completely cut out of oak logs, if 0,8, if some forces and means are placed on the BV, they are unlikely to be there without any goals, and the conditions for their application are probably thought out in advance.
    3. +7
      24 May 2013 09: 44
      "It's like our ships will start shooting in Syria's defense.?."
      "Expect Israeli strikes on shipments of Russian weapons supplies to Syria-Hezbollah ..."
      And only then, easily, if there are pebbles in our garden.
      1. Airman
        +4
        24 May 2013 12: 53
        Quote: tolan_petrovich
        "It's like our ships will start shooting in Syria's defense.?."
        "Expect Israeli strikes on shipments of Russian weapons supplies to Syria-Hezbollah ..."
        And only then, easily, if there are pebbles in our garden.

        Yes, they will not shoot at ships or launch air strikes, they will bomb the entire cargo during transportation.
    4. +4
      24 May 2013 10: 01
      As I understand the author of the article, the Russian Federation can respond with a blow to Israel in the event of an attack by Russian ships and citizens in Syria.
      1. skeptic-
        +4
        24 May 2013 10: 55
        Quote: krpmlws
        As I understand the author of the article, the Russian Federation can respond with a blow to Israel in the event of an attack by Russian ships and citizens in Syria.


        Sorry, but the Russian Federation can respond with a blow to Israel in the event of an attack on Russian ships and Russian citizens in Syria. And then only on the attacking enemy (as self-defense)
      2. Bashkaus
        +3
        24 May 2013 11: 24
        Practice shows that in the event of an attack by Russian ships (peacekeepers, etc. military units), as well as citizens on the territory (well, you yourself know everything), Russia can really answer ...
        1. +2
          24 May 2013 11: 55
          "Practice shows that in the event of an attack by Russian ships (peacekeepers, etc. military units)"

          They’ll get a couple of times in the teeth, they will bypass the third party, well, of course, if we don’t do it liquidly.
        2. -1
          24 May 2013 18: 26
          Quote: Bashkaus
          as well as citizens on the territory (well, you yourself know everything) Russia can really answer ...

          According to Russian citizens laughing laughing
          There are exactly 10 times more of them in Israel than in Syria. laughing
          The Russians will bomb the Russians to protect the Russians. laughing
          I thought only the author (s) stoned, it turns out not only. wassat
          1. +1
            24 May 2013 20: 27
            As they wrote above, as these people in Russia, then they consider themselves citizens of the Russian Federation, as in Israel so everyone is God's chosen. Thief is cunning. such and not dumb bomb
          2. Oleg Rosskiyy
            +1
            26 May 2013 23: 28
            Quote: atalef
            According to Russian citizens
            There are exactly 10 times more of them in Israel than in Syria.
            The Russians will bomb the Russians to protect the Russians.

            Beat your own so that strangers are afraid, but in general, swearing allegiance to another state - these are no longer citizens of Russia.
      3. Airman
        0
        24 May 2013 12: 59
        Quote: krpmlws
        As I understand the author of the article, the Russian Federation can respond with a blow to Israel in the event of an attack by Russian ships and citizens in Syria.

        According to the command of the Navy, the BDK arrived in Syria for "a possible urgent evacuation of Russian citizens."
      4. +5
        24 May 2013 13: 19
        Quote: krpmlws
        As I understand the author of the article, the Russian Federation can respond with a blow to Israel in the event of an attack by Russian ships and citizens in Syria.

        Of course, you can strike it and wipe it off the face of the earth. First you need to evacuate 60 thousand Russian tourists, Ukrainian and Ukrainian, of course, the Anglo-Saxons should be left, and the Sarabs, what to do here will be a millionaire and we’ll live like it would be mixed up. ...? In general, the squadron is thinking for other purposes, as Zhenya (mechanic) correctly pointed out which of the ships can fire at earthly targets, plus maybe I’m mistaken, like there are two tank tankers, a tugboat, and what else?
        1. +4
          24 May 2013 14: 02
          Well, they will be beaten at the military bases of the vaunted IDF. Or do you have tourists walking around military bases? recourse
          1. Anton Karpenko
            +2
            24 May 2013 14: 19
            First, the Israeli Kumpols will be knocked out. And then you don't need to do anything - left defenseless from the attacks of the Palestinians, the rude Jews will quickly turn on their brains.
          2. +2
            24 May 2013 14: 41
            Quote: regdan
            Well, they will be beaten at the military bases of the vaunted IDF. Or do you have tourists walking around military bases? recourse

            What kind of kindergarten? The states are building relationships in tourism tourism, and you are fighting here. Strategists damn it. Well, how do you imagine this? Knock out the cumps, bomb the bases. soldier
            1. 0
              24 May 2013 16: 38
              Igor is a circus. Then common sense once or twice and miscalculated. People rejoice in their hatred of Jews and / or Israel, and reality rests. Here everything is in the minds of the war, the attack on Israel, etc. Circus. Sound, balanced comments can be obtained from Eugene Mechanic and even a couple of people.
              1. mogus
                0
                25 May 2013 03: 12
                will not get to the fighting - what's the point? The United States is unlikely to intervene - there are enough of its own problems, and China is holding amers for eggs (about 20% of the US debt), and China also does not need torn Syria.
              2. Katsin
                -2
                25 May 2013 12: 45
                This forum is the strongest motivator to live in Israel. It’s fortunate that my children will never see live gloomy anti-Semitic personalities ...
                1. +2
                  25 May 2013 12: 47
                  Quote: Katsin
                  This forum is the strongest motivator to live in Israel.

                  Well, live that you climb here on this forum. Sit on your Israeli.
                  1. kirmikchi181178
                    0
                    26 May 2013 10: 02
                    They have such a nature, to teach everyone and to stick their nose everywhere.
                  2. Mihail33
                    0
                    21 August 2013 23: 22
                    If you don’t answer, you’ll be sour. You’ll start drinking, the moderator and the government do not need it
                2. mogus
                  0
                  25 May 2013 14: 51
                  people's hatred is not unfounded ... Perelman, Wasserman, Solovyov (TV presenter) - who first came to mind, live normally. I have one of the best friends of Jewish nationality, from first grade to graduation at the same desk, though not in all lessons. But to take the same Gozman, Vekselberg, then this is Nazism towards us. All the most heinous, regarding us, comes from the yuda (in other forums I come across different people, but for example on mail.ru your compatriots openly hate us). Well, it cannot be that in Russia several centuries all nations get along, but for several decades they hate ..?
                3. mogus
                  0
                  25 May 2013 15: 01
                  you are not right. our aggression is a reaction to the attitude towards us from your compatriots ...
                4. posad
                  -2
                  27 May 2013 22: 40
                  What a blessing that you and your geek live in Israel. After your flight, in Russia even breathing was better. Can anyone else be taken to you?
                  At the expense of children. Have they blinded you? ))))))))))) No problem)))))))))
                  1. annenkov242
                    +1
                    28 May 2013 15: 11
                    Do not go down ....
                5. mihasik
                  0
                  30 May 2013 21: 35
                  And you do not be equal to minke whales, and all will be friends with you, even the Arabs.
              3. Oleg Rosskiyy
                0
                26 May 2013 23: 30
                Quote: Pimply
                Sound, balanced comments can be obtained from Eugene Mechanic and even a couple of people.

                Probably from the "professor" and "rumata"?
            2. mihasik
              0
              30 May 2013 21: 33
              Tyk we learn from the "West" double standards!) With one hand "we are friends", the other "we are at war")) In Georgia, you did not do that, or am I mistaken?
    5. +3
      24 May 2013 12: 57
      Quote: Yves762
      I don’t remember even the USSR shooting

      Egypt, the beginning of the 70s, air defense missiles.
      1. -4
        24 May 2013 16: 39
        The USSR did not enter the war. Advisers and stuff are common. Regular parts were somehow not noted anywhere.
        1. +1
          26 May 2013 16: 59
          Quote: Pimply
          Regular parts were somehow not noted anywhere.

          Yeah.
          For a long time, the 80s, drunk friend-sailor told.
          The ship of the Russian Navy is in a friendly port. Israeli (?) Making an approach to it, after "working off" targets on the shore. Your decision ?

          Only fell into the port small the wreckage.
          You can say _ What drunk do not tell ?!
          But only in the morning he was very intensely interested in _ And what did he actually pour on land yesterday?
          Only then everyone had more than one skeleton in the closet dusting themselves and everyone answered amicably _ About mermaids !!!
          bully
    6. 0
      24 May 2013 15: 51
      Quote: Yves762
      Like our ships start to shoot in defense of Syria.?.
      If I’m wrong, correct, I don’t remember so even USSR shot ...
      Pontezstvo, in the permitted framework, in front of the hamsters ... no more negative .

      well 2 !! Thank you for not knowing the story! At least 1956, remember! He didn’t shoot then, but he warned so seriously and got ready that everyone then from Egypt instantly got off, and Israel in the first place!
      1. 0
        26 May 2013 17: 07
        Quote: old man54
        Did not shoot then

        Paraphrasing_
        Appearance - Queen of Evidence

        1. 0
          26 May 2013 21: 38
          did not quite understand this humor, honestly !? :)
          1. +1
            26 May 2013 22: 51
            Quote: old man54
            did not quite understand this humor

            Officially did not shoot then. And there is no evidence!
            drinks
    7. kirmikchi181178
      0
      26 May 2013 09: 53
      Everything happens once for the first time
  16. +2
    24 May 2013 09: 31
    Logically, it is likely that izr. still take a chance.
  17. sashka
    +4
    24 May 2013 09: 32
    Good article .. Patriotic. But nobody knows and cannot know how it will actually be. In such cases, Putin is a "grandmaster". For all my dislike for him ..
    1. tixon444
      +5
      24 May 2013 10: 07
      The author of the article, Jim W. Dean, comes from an old military family dating back to the American Revolution. His father was a World War II veteran.
    2. Bashkaus
      +5
      24 May 2013 11: 26
      As I understand you, I myself have never voted for Putin, but now I admire his foreign policy and am ready to yell "Putin, we will not surrender Russia and its allies, I am with you."
      1. sashka
        0
        24 May 2013 11: 44
        You specifically ask a question to someone or just like that ..
      2. 12061973
        +2
        24 May 2013 13: 01
        Shout quietly and no later than 23-00.
    3. +1
      24 May 2013 11: 57
      Moreover, there is no need to discount Buki and Armor scattered across Syria - they will also help if they get it.
    4. 0
      24 May 2013 13: 01
      Quote: Sasha
      Putin "grandmaster"

      So choose either Grandmaster Kasparov or Grandmaster Putin.
    5. SASCHAmIXEEW
      +2
      24 May 2013 15: 43
      Vanga predicted a nuclear conflict in the Middle East. Either Israel will be covered, or Iran! Something like this ... And after all this, humanitarian RUSSIA will conquer the whole world with a New ideology .... If you didn’t really mess it up, something like that, predicted Wang!
      1. +1
        24 May 2013 17: 08
        Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
        And after all this, humanitarian RUSSIA will conquer the whole world with a New ideology .... If you haven’t really messed up something like that, Wang predicted!


        Vanga predicted that Russia would stop the third world war, and the USSR would revive in the first quarter of this century. Here you will have a new ideology, well, everything that is left from Europe will be asked in the Customs Union! fellow
  18. +6
    24 May 2013 09: 33
    The article is certainly strong with a bang! And the EPRST wants it to be that way! I will not say anything this time. We ourselves all perfectly understand. And the pros and cons of the article are also known to everyone.
    I’d better sit and see how now the Jews will run and spit))))
    1. +2
      24 May 2013 09: 35
      There is one already running and spitting
    2. +5
      24 May 2013 09: 39
      Greetings Maxim. Popcorn took laughing wink
      1. +4
        24 May 2013 09: 45
        Quote: Mechanic
        Greetings Maxim. Popcorn took

        Hello! Seeds are better)))
        1. +9
          24 May 2013 12: 07
          Quote: Manager
          Quote: Mechanic
          Greetings Maxim. Popcorn took
          Hello! Seeds are better)))

          Hello Maxim and Eugene!
          Friends, do you really think that you can spit farther and faster than the Jews who came running in? Yes, they are "champions" in spitting from around the corner.
          1. +2
            24 May 2013 13: 01
            Quote: omsbon
            Friends, do you really think that you can spit farther and faster than the Jews who came running in? Yes, they are "champions" in spitting from around the corner.
            Andrew welcome. No, we won’t even compete with them. So we’ll sit and watch as spectators. drinks
        2. +1
          24 May 2013 14: 15
          Seeds are better))) ... and more patriotic
    3. +9
      24 May 2013 10: 38
      Quote: Manager
      Jews will run and spit

      And they will not spit much.
      The minuses of the article will be taught, well, a couple of "spits" and will not be honored for more. Some are worried about the "image" (minus one). wink

      And the article is clearly written by a Zionist, for the "sacrifice" of the "Holocaust" system.

      I will allow myself a small digression, a supposedly "anti-Simite" saying.
      It is so necessary for Jews to stand out from other cultures and peoples that even the GENOCIDE of the Jews was given their own name: In Russian, the word "Holocaust" when designating a concept that is not a proper name, is written with a lowercase letter, and in relation to the murder of the Jews - with the capitalization.

      Paradox or machinations of ZIONIS?

      In English, the term “holocaust” has been used in close to its current meaning since the 1910s (originally in relation to the Armenian genocide in the Ottoman Empire and the Jewish pogroms during the Civil War in Russia), and in the modern sense the extermination of Jews by the Nazis (with a capital letter ) - since 1942. Widespread in the 1950s thanks to the books of the future writer of the Nobel Peace Prize writer Elie Wiesel(Jewish, French and American writer, journalist, public figure. Winner of the Nobel Peace Prize in 1986. He writes in Yiddish, Hebrew, French and English. Professor of Humanities at Boston University.Does Wiesel Born September 30, 1928 in Sighet (Romania) in a religious Jewish family.). Appears in the Soviet press in the early 1980s ...

      Well, where does "love" to Israel or Jews come from after this?
      (I don’t say anything about the mega-presence of Jews in bureaucratic and aligarchic circles, and so everyone knows and sees)
      1. +3
        24 May 2013 10: 55
        Quote: Papakiko
        Jews
        - so you respect them? Why
        Quote: Papakiko
        Е

        with such a letter?
        According to the content of the post - it seems like you treat them normally laughing. According to the content of the post, you have a normal, healthy and I would even say a slightly overly tolerant attitude towards them, which so far they clearly, alas, have not deserved. strolling through deserts at someone else’s expense - if this is abused, then the Holocaust will be repeated and repeated. They would have to gather on their own land and live for themselves and live, and forge a peaceful life with their neighbors, and develop science. And do not try to arrange a hangout in the deserts at the expense of others. Nobody likes this, there is no such ethnos on earth.
        1. +2
          24 May 2013 13: 45
          Quote: aksakal
          with such a letter?

          Thank you, I’ve pushed about this, and I’m putting the big E everywhere when the speech about the Jews comes in.
          Quote: aksakal
          a bit overly tolerant of them

          I know a few, I communicate and with them 50/50 good-bad, as well as with other nations. Although with LKN things are much worse, in terms of business partners. With the latter, only everything with 100% prepayment.
      2. -2
        24 May 2013 14: 10
        Quote: Papakiko
        : In Russian, the word "Holocaust" when designating a concept that is not a proper name, is written with a lowercase letter, and in relation to the murder of Jews - with a capital letter.

        I'll give you an educational program. The Holocaust is the English equivalent of the Hebrew word Shoah. The word comes from ancient Greek. In Russian, this event is called (attention, write and remember) "catastrophe of european jews". hi
        1. +3
          24 May 2013 15: 41
          Quote: professor
          "the catastrophe of European Jewry".

          The fact that Jews love butter but sour cream is a fact that does not require proof.
          I will not argue about the so-called "holocaust" either, here the positions are defined monumental.
          But in what grammar did they read that "Holocaust" is capitalized? Where? When? The fact that "lice larvae" like Mlechin, Svanidze or the squint-eyed roseman write this way, it is not for them to determine the rules of the Russian language.

          PS the lice larva is called gn..a. .
        2. korm-yurii
          +4
          24 May 2013 16: 30
          Well, here are the instructions: “Write and remember.” This suggests that you are a Zionist, my friend. How did you get here to the “unworthy”?
        3. +4
          24 May 2013 18: 12
          Quote: professor
          catastrophe of european jews

          Why, for example, is it not so: catastrophe of European Jewry with the abbreviation CEJ ?!
          Quote: professor
          the English equivalent of the Hebrew word "Shoah"

          To me personally, sho SHOA sho BOA, it is completely "perpendicular".
          Quote: professor
          A word came from ancient Greek


          What exactly came from "ancient Greek"?

          Peter I, by his decree of December 19 (29), 1699, indicated the beginning of the year to be considered January 1. By this decree, the tsar "from the creation of the world" the king indicated to replace the chronology from the birth of Christ. 7208 from the creation of the world became the year 1700 from the birth of Christ.
          Accordingly, the year is 7521 and all ties to the "pseudo-antiquities" of the Gay European have been generated exactly.
          The Jews believe that the year is 5772 and is calculated by Israel proceeding from the fact that the Jews were in Egypt for 210 years, but "we know" that the Jews were in "Egypt for 430 years", i.e. Israel hid 430-210 = 220 years
          those. now 5773 + 220 = 5993 year from Adam.

          With such an antiquity, why do "experts" refer to the Greek linguistic origin !?

          Therefore, Herrr Professor, what exactly is "buried" in the Holocaust !?
          1. -2
            24 May 2013 20: 05
            I repeat. What is called in Hebrew "shoah", in English "the Holocaust", in Russian it is called"catastrophe of european jews"Have you learned or repeat it?
            1. +1
              25 May 2013 01: 14
              Quote: professor
              in Russian it is called "the catastrophe of European Jewry"

              The Holocaust (from the English holocaust, from other Greek ὁλοκαύστος - “burnt offering”) also the biblical forms ὁλόκαυ (σ) τος, ὁλόκαυ (σ) τον “burned whole”, “burnt offering, sacrifice of the burnt offering”, ὁλοαατ ὁλοκαύτωσις “offering a burnt offering” in the broad sense is the persecution and mass extermination by the Nazis of representatives of various ethnic and social groups.
              Where did the HOLOCAUST and the "catastrophe of European Jewry" become related?
              With all due respect or lack thereof, but why draw ears from Ishak to these different concepts ?!
              Under the "catastrophe of European Jewry" can be summed up various disasters, natural or man-made cataclysms.
            2. +2
              25 May 2013 02: 20
              To become a convinced anti-Semite you need to live in Israel. hi You agree with entim yutverzhdeniem
      3. 0
        24 May 2013 16: 02
        and that you write the word "Jews" with a capital letter? I do not understand you?
      4. Katsin
        -2
        25 May 2013 12: 51
        But you are not ashamed that you, a Russian, write in your language with wild mistakes, and I, a hated Jew, perfectly write in your language?
  19. +7
    24 May 2013 09: 36
    An interesting plot twist, intriguing ... Article +
  20. -4
    24 May 2013 09: 38
    Horror story ... laughed
    1. +5
      24 May 2013 10: 19
      Usually naughty children are whipped with a belt somewhere after the 10th oral suggestion and scare of Baba Yaga. Let it be a "horror story" who needs a thin thread of a hint in it. Many such threads from different sources, primarily the actions of the Russian leadership, will be woven into a strong rope. It is from her, in case of further "disobedience", that someone's priest will suffer.
      I do not beat the children and do not advise. stop
  21. +5
    24 May 2013 09: 39
    It is high time for RUSSIA to be addressed with "YOU".
  22. +12
    24 May 2013 09: 39
    In my opinion, there are three countries in the world that are trying to subjugate the rest.
    These are the USA, Great Britain and Israel.
    They are engaged in terror at the state level. Straight bandits from the highway.
    If this continues further, I won’t be surprised that a coalition will emerge that will sweep away the governments of these countries from the face of the earth as part of anti-terrorism measures.
    1. sashka
      +3
      24 May 2013 09: 54
      Quote: 1tankist
      They are engaged in terror at the state level. Straight bandits from the highway.

      They remind of a gang from the cartoon "The Bremen Town Musicians")))
    2. yustas
      +7
      24 May 2013 10: 04
      Quote: 1tankist
      there are three countries in the world that are trying to subjugate the rest.
      + This is the United States, Britain and Israel.

      Yes, little Britons with ami can do just that, they don’t know how to do anything else. But Jews, they should love Comrade Stalin, otherwise they would have been without their country ...
      1. +4
        24 May 2013 10: 24
        Quote: yustas
        These are the USA, Great Britain and Israel.

        Quote: yustas
        But Jews, they should love Comrade Stalin, otherwise they would have been without their country ...

        - In, only by your own observations reached? Young man, this is a story. A tiny and very shortened excursion - for some reason, Jews were severely persecuted all over the world, roamed like gypsies around the world and managed to get caught in Europe. And not just catch on - but become an influential force. It is believed that the growing influence of the Jewish world diaspora began with the successful commercial activities of the Rothschilds, which later became the richest dynasty in the world. It was in England that the activity of the Rothschilds reached an official level, representatives of the dynasty became shadow rulers of the country. As a result, an extremely aggressive tandem took shape - the Rothschilds and Baruchs took over the brain and financial support, while the British themselves were a striking force. America, more precisely, the USA is just a large copy of the same tandem, there the Rockefellers added another bandit.
        It’s just that sometimes you need to read a story - it’s not only informative, but also interesting. Traditionally, Russia confronts the Anglo-Jewish tandem, resists with varying success. It is only because of Russia that the tandem’s plans to conquer the whole world are not being realized, although they are already close to this. Syria and Iran remained. Choking China is not a question, no matter what many say. After Iran, almost all oil will be in tandem control. Only Russia and Kazakhstan can supply oil to China, which is very small for China. Its growth will immediately stop, and China will collapse. China is a colossus on clay (or rather, oil) feet. Militarily, China is not yet a serious force.
        so that only Russia puts tandem sticks in the wheels. And this confrontation has been going on for several centuries.
        1. +3
          24 May 2013 12: 06
          Quote: aksakal
          It is believed that the growing influence of the Jewish world diaspora


          From the Crusades, as Jews were literally in every city and in Europe, at the official level, they were allowed to do certain things that were not fitting for a good Christian. Including usury. As a result, all the looted treasures passed through the Jews, something stuck to their hands. Banks appeared, banks began to lend to the sovereigns for the war, gaining influence over them and reached the world level. The Rodschilds are just one of many, without a doubt the most successful. Something like this.
          1. +2
            24 May 2013 12: 46
            Quote: zvereok
            Including usury. As a result, all the looted treasures passed through the Jews, something stuck to their hands. Banks appeared, banks began to lend to the sovereigns for war, gaining influence over them, and reached the world level.

            - I agree, the fact is that this does not in any way cancel my version of the appearance of a monstrous tandem. Your version will change mine in this:
            Quote: aksakal
            It is believed that the growing influence of the Jewish world diaspora began with the successful commercial activities of the Rothschilds, which later became the richest dynasty in the world.

            in your presentation it sounds like this:
            Quote: zvereok
            Including usury. As a result, all the looted treasures passed through the Jews, something stuck to their hands. Banks appeared, banks began to lend to the sovereigns for war, having gained influence on them, and reached the world level. The Rodschilds are just one of many, without a doubt the most successful. Something like this.

            Ok, I agree. Minus because of this?
            Let it be your way. How exactly the tandem came about in the details does not matter. Important - is there a tandem? Or, as Gumilev called this phenomenon, a chimera state when the head of one animal and the body of another animal. Gumilev described the signs of the state-chimera as an example of an ancient state, defeated in a military campaign by the prophetic Oleg. I don’t remember the name. The bottom line is when the Jews in fact seize power in the country, but at the same time manage not to advertise this circumstance, but really steer at the same time.
            At the same time, I would like to know - is Russia not such a state? And isn't the confrontation between Russia and the West a trivial fight between two CHIMERS? do not take it as an insult, but you have a lot of "signs of a chimera state" there, and with arrogant and provocative walks in the deserts.
            Here I will honor, honor, I am a fan of Russia, but by chance, do I support the chimera state? I would not want to ... am
            1. SASCHAmIXEEW
              +2
              24 May 2013 16: 10
              AKSAKAL You are right, we have Jews in power, HOW IT IS NOT REASONABLE !!! They rode the Russians in the Russian state! But they climbed for a long time and now, where is flattery, where is libel, where is bribery! And they fed, Stalin almost exhausted them! So they poisoned, stsu .. !!! And under Khrushchev and Andropov they climbed out of the cracks, whoever was attached, and now in power !!! The eternal question: What to do?
              1. -1
                24 May 2013 18: 31
                Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
                And under Khrushchev and Andropov, they climbed out of the cracks, whoever settled in where, but now in power!

                i.e. they are now from 60 to 80 years old laughing
                Nothing more than five years and all the old fighters will rest. Who will you blame then?
              2. -1
                24 May 2013 18: 54
                Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
                AKSAKAL You are right, we have Jews in power, HOW IT IS NOT REASONABLE !!! They rode the Russians in the Russian state! But they climbed for a long time and now, where is flattery, where is libel, where is bribery! And they fed, Stalin almost exhausted them! So they poisoned, stsu .. !!! And under Khrushchev and Andropov they climbed out of the cracks, whoever was attached, and now in power !!! The eternal question: What to do?
                What are you saying? And not vice versa? Under Stalin, every fifth Commissar or Minister from 46 was Jewish. Under Khrushchev and beyond, not a single one. There were a lot of Jews in the organs of the State Security Service under Stalin, from intelligence and counterintelligence to executioners of the Gulag. In the army there are hundreds of generals in the highest posts right up to the commanders of troops. And under Khrushchev and his successors, they were simply squeezed out from there to the middle of 60-X. So in Soviet history, the biggest anti-Semite is Comrade Stalin.
                1. +2
                  24 May 2013 21: 49
                  Quote: Aron Zaavi
                  So in Soviet history, the biggest anti-Semite is Comrade Stalin.
                  - Bazhanov claims that Stalin was not an anti-Semite at all, but very much did not like them. BUT. He used them skillfully. Let's just say - all the skill and professionalism of the Jews in exchange ... laughing for life, and if a Jew really tried, then for quite tolerable working and living conditions. If in Russia everything is repeated the same way, I am the first Jewish lover and try to breed anti-Semitism here! am Aaron, in this case I will become a Jew more than the Jews themselves laughing True, the rest also lived the same way, but it does not matter.
                  By the way, a very mutually beneficial exchange. Why did Jews emphasize knowledge and skills? Gold can be taken away, but the gold that is in the head can never be taken away. But you can always exchange for what the Jew always needs - his own life. But here I wanted to clarify throughout the post - this is not about all Jews. There are very worthy people among them, very worthy. It is only about those who have devoted themselves to serving the golden calf. Read Berezovsky, shortly before his death, he published a short essay on this topic. I frankly wondered how, literally in bast shoes, one could spend a lot of money on launching the first astronaut into space. He honestly admitted that it was difficult for him as a Jew to understand. If there is nowhere to put money in, and some kind of gesheft will promise space, then a Jew can move in this direction, and that is not a fact. Here we are talking about them.
                  1. -1
                    24 May 2013 22: 35
                    Duc, Berezovsky was primarily a bastard, and only then you need to think about who he was from mom to dad. The bastards have no nationality. Or say that there are no analogues to Berezovsky in other nationalities?
                    1. Katsin
                      -1
                      25 May 2013 12: 59
                      To the same Berezovsky was baptized, that is, he ceased to be a Jew. We are sitting on the crosses of mourning
                      1. 0
                        25 May 2013 13: 17
                        You can write in PM, the nuances of all this, I was always interested in different cultures.
                      2. -1
                        28 May 2013 19: 11
                        Quote: Katsin
                        To the same Berezovsky was baptized, that is, he ceased to be a Jew. We are sitting on the crosses of mourning

                        The rabbi will order - a Jew and cross himself for business, and the cancer will bend.
            2. 0
              24 May 2013 16: 36
              Quote: aksakal

              How exactly the tandem came about in the details does not matter. Important - is there a tandem? Or, as Gumilev called this phenomenon, a chimera state when the head of one animal and the body of another animal.

              In fact, there is no tandem! It's like giant octopus tentacles scattered around the world! Or it would be more correct to say about 3 dragon heads, like different ones, but in the whole, he has one body! This is how it is with these thermals. The rest, "titular" peoples no longer play any role, since they were hooked on consumerism, and on misinformation in the media and so on!
            3. 0
              24 May 2013 20: 25
              Revenge not reasonable Khazars? Judaism professed the highest among them. Well, I didn’t put you cons. Just replenished one of the versions.
          2. SASCHAmIXEEW
            0
            24 May 2013 15: 55
            About luck, do not say how lucky it is if the loan interest and competently drawn up agreement will strip you to the goal! Everything is built on deception and greed !!! FREEBIE!!!
        2. 0
          24 May 2013 16: 24
          Quote: aksakal
          A tiny and very shortened excursion - for some reason, Jews were severely persecuted all over the world, roamed like gypsies around the world and managed to get caught in Europe.

          A wonderful excursion into history! But ... the Jews were not always like gypsies, and once upon a time they really had a very large state in the BV and prospered. Then there was a revolution in their minds and their state, like ours in 1985/93, and they began to oppose themselves to the whole world, they wanted to rule all the "goyim" of our planet! And then Ancient Greece stood in their way, about which there is a very distorted and false infa today, as about the wars between the Greeks and the Persians. Although in reality that army (Persians) was led by Jews. The Jews turned away from God, and He is one, I hope many will agree with me on this, and began to huddle and pray to the DEVIL, to bring real human sacrifices (in Sadoma and Gamora for example). And as a result, as a punishment for this and many other things, the Creator deprived them of their homes, their lands, their states, and they wandered around the World like stray dogs! Alexander the Great, with his campaign already physically, with sword and spear, completed what God had begun, having made his famous campaign to India! But the Jews still did not learn the lesson and put down roots in Europe, first in Ancient Rome, and then in France and Angia! They were poured from Russia and the northern Black Sea coast, but a little bit of them remained and over time they began to "pull" their fellow tribesmen there ... Why USA? Because the Jews quickly realized, and they are still not stupid, that England in the long run as an old springboard for their claims to world domination and suppression of the self-consciousness of all other peoples is not very suitable, because deprived of its own resources and its territory is not so militarily safe. The United States on the American continent was much more suitable for these pressure points. In a nutshell, that's all, in general!
      2. +3
        24 May 2013 14: 19
        They (Jews) are one of the few modern people who do not detract from the role of the USSR in the victory over the Nazis.
        1. +3
          24 May 2013 22: 22
          Quote: Black Colonel
          They (Jews) are one of the few modern people who do not detract from the role of the USSR in the victory over the Nazis.

          - ordinary Jews - yes, they do not detract. But it’s not about them. A Jew is plowing himself in his tributary, or what are their collective farms calling them? - Well, let it plow! Honor and praise be for him! And I condemn the one who arranges such a terrorist attack. We are talking about those Jews who lowered the command to the world liberal media (and most of the world media, especially the liberal ones, are owned by Jews, but they are unusual)
          Quote: Black Colonel
          belittle the role of the USSR
          .
          These Jews are of a very special kind. They are not people at all, but cold powerful computers for extracting money from money. They are completely devoid of sentiment and generally any emotions. It's cold to plan a Boston terrorist attack and then just as calmly kill all the FBI members who had the misfortune to participate in the detention of the Tsarnaevs. Kill all the special forces who participated in the "assassination" of Bin Laden. No emotion, just business. The fact that Hitler sent tens of thousands of their fellow tribesmen to the gas chambers did not touch them at all! For some reason, we separate some Jews from others, but the Jewish comrades themselves consider those to be their own. Although I will make a reservation - there are not people. There are those whose coming was foreseen by HG Wells in The War of the Worlds. The aliens in this novel also had no emotion. Only a satisfied whirring when they injected themselves with people's blood. Wells was mistaken in only one thing - they did not come from Mars. They were close by and warmed up in their bosom.
    3. 0
      24 May 2013 10: 07
      Greetings to all, for Alexander, you forgot about China
    4. +2
      24 May 2013 16: 08
      Quote: 1tankist
      In my opinion, there are three countries in the world that are trying to subjugate the rest.
      These are the USA, Great Britain and Israel.
      They are engaged in terror at the state level.

      "+" From me to you! You have a very deep look at history and geopolitics! So it is, and it has always been, even from the Middle Ages, I mean England. But they, like the real mafia, hide behind good antics and speeches, and their deeds, in fact, are blacker than ever!
  23. +3
    24 May 2013 09: 39
    Interesting material, clearly foreign. Why only the author is not specified?
    An open conflict with Israel is not beneficial for Russia. But she can help Syria. So we are waiting for the States to use their most important and most powerful weapon against the Russian Federation - they will freeze the capital of the Russian state apparatus at home. Or at least hint at it.
    1. +2
      24 May 2013 10: 03
      Jim W. Dean http://www.veteranstoday.com/ site of American veterans.
    2. SASCHAmIXEEW
      0
      24 May 2013 16: 12
      STER- Do you think after the "freeze" active actions will begin?
  24. +1
    24 May 2013 09: 40
    Israel’s unpunished strikes on Syria should be laid end. This is facilitated by a balanced foreign policy of the Russian leadership, Vladimir Putin. Israel must admit an obvious fact: Russia does not abandon its friends in trouble! She will do everything for Syria to develop in peace and harmony of all the peoples living in this country.
  25. +10
    24 May 2013 09: 42
    Well, there’s some kind of note in the article that nevertheless refreshes my hot head .... Is it a bust with our strengths and invincibility ..... Although maybe we just didn’t notice how quickly and unexpectedly Russia became strong? Something in the shower, all the same, this article has changed. Either pride has increased (although nothing has happened as a whole), or the expectation of something makes the soul tremble, or perhaps just a hunch that your hated enemy will finally get his teeth and justice will prevail.
    In any case, many thanks to the author! Each of us woke up in our hearts!
    1. nickname 1 and 2
      +3
      24 May 2013 12: 13
      Quote: Manager
      Well, there’s some kind of note in the article that’s all
      In any case, many thanks to the author! Each of us woke up in our hearts!


      Marya Ivanovna came home to Vovochka: Oh, oh, oh - your son, your son!
      Father - why?
      M.I. - he said that he would ... fuck me!
      Who is senior? Stepka? Yes, I have him ......!
      No, that's the horror - Little Johnny!

      Ahhh, this YES, if he said, he’ll do it!
      Here I cannot do anything.
    2. Airman
      +3
      24 May 2013 15: 47
      Quote: Manager
      Well, there’s some kind of note in the article that nevertheless refreshes my hot head .... Is it a bust with our strengths and invincibility ..... Although maybe we just didn’t notice how quickly and unexpectedly Russia became strong? Something in the shower, all the same, this article has changed. Either pride has increased (although nothing has happened as a whole), or the expectation of something makes the soul tremble, or perhaps just a hunch that your hated enemy will finally get his teeth and justice will prevail.
      In any case, many thanks to the author! Each of us woke up in our hearts!

      Quickly and unexpectedly, only diarrhea can happen. And perhaps ordinary Americans are frightened by such articles, they say, the Russian bear is so strong that it can shoot down planes on take-off. The article was written by an American, and not to exalt the power of the Russians. I also want to, that Russia would defend its interests not only in peace negotiations, but, where necessary, and by force. And partners must be supported, not surrendered.
  26. +7
    24 May 2013 09: 42
    All or a lot of things depend on the consistent and tough position of Russia in this region. Thanks to this position, the Turks have already flown away, Europe has not embarked, and Israel is delivering cowardly blows from around the corner.
    1. yustas
      +2
      24 May 2013 10: 06
      oh, yes, your words to God’s ears, help from the fraternal peoples in this regard, otherwise the geyropa from SySHYY would tear us apart, and we all were led ... = (sad it’s all
  27. +4
    24 May 2013 09: 47
    I pray to God about the specificity and veracity of this article:
    Any Israeli retaliation will cause a full-scale Russian response, which can be aimed at their bases and command structures. Their updated Iskander missiles are said to have speeds in the range up to 6-7 Mach, but our sources say their speed is over 8 Mach. When evading missile fire, they can deviate with overload by more than 30 G, and dive to the target at an angle of 90 degrees. Israeli bullies have never stood up to modern weapons, but they may have a chance. And they will not like it.

    And, surely, I will read to my cadets about the STRENGTH and BEAUTYNESS of our weapons !!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. Katsin
      -1
      25 May 2013 13: 34
      You first learn in Russian without mistakes, read, and then teach the cadets, Teacher ... First, learn how to spell the word "disinterested"
      1. 0
        28 May 2013 19: 17
        Quote: Katsin
        "disinterestedly"

        There are two options:
        Without self-interest - disinterestedly - the absence of self-interest.
        The devil is self-serving - disinterestedly - like a self-serving demon - your Jewish alteration of the Russian language.
  28. djon3volta
    +6
    24 May 2013 09: 48
    And if the Russians respond to the Israeli attack, believe me, The US will not stand up.

    but it’s true, and I have long come to this conclusion. I’ll even say more (once I voiced it here), if you dream up and imagine that Russia delivered a nuclear attack on Israel, then no country, including the United States, will try to do anything to Russia in the military plan. the maximum that will be, this is the most terrible howl in the history of mankind from all the stands of any UN, economic and political sanctions (such as oil and gas we will not buy from you laughing , I have a counter question, but who will you buy from?). EVERYTHING! Nothing else will happen, absolutely nothing!
    there are even countries (a little) that will welcome that Israel has suffered such a punishment, confident that Iran will stand by applauding the Russian leadership for this action! fellow
    1. -10
      24 May 2013 10: 03
      Quote: djon3volta
      EVERYTHING! Nothing else will happen, absolutely nothing!

      Israel also has nuclear submarines and I hope you live closer to the North Pole
      No one will use nuclear weapons for some Syria
      Assad if he wanted to destroy half of Israel with chemical weapons long ago
      and by the way, Russia is far from the first in oil production, OPEC may well increase supply by 2 times, and the United States may well provide itself
      1. +3
        24 May 2013 10: 58
        Thank you, laughed heartily.
        They are there (on boats) carry nuclear weapons in buckets ??? smile
        1. +1
          24 May 2013 12: 12
          Quote: Ulysses
          Thank you, laughed heartily.
          They are there (on boats) carry nuclear weapons in buckets ??? smile

          Wiki: According to experts[Who?], three diesel-electric submarines of the Dolphin type, armed with the Israeli Navy, can carry cruise missiles equipped with nuclear warheads. Tales are shorter !!!laughing
    2. +2
      24 May 2013 10: 11
      Quote: djon3volta
      if you fantasize and imagine that Russia delivered a nuclear strike against Israel,
      Dreamer laughing
      Quote: djon3volta
      I have a counter question, but who will you buy from?).
      Emirates, Qatar, etc.
      Quote: djon3volta
      there are even countries (a little) that will welcome that Israel has suffered such a punishment, confident that Iran will stand by applauding the Russian leadership for this action!
      What are we brave, like even the button itself you press. It’s great to be shortsighted, that in the head, then in the language. Think before you say something 3 world no one needs except you. Although what a person who works on 3 volts can understand, exposes himself as a patriot, and in PM the name of the leader of the African tribe, even the nickname was not Russian (John for reference in Russian is Ivan, if you fix it on Ivan on batteries).
      1. +1
        24 May 2013 10: 37
        Quote: Mechanic
        Dreamer

        Fatalist laughing
      2. Bashkaus
        +12
        24 May 2013 11: 44
        YES that you all attacked 3 volts, for example, it’s also just out of idle curiosity that I would be interested to see the reaction of the USA and Europe if Russia gives in properly to the Turks and Jews. Nuclear weapons. Intuitively I feel that nothing terrible will happen (well, except for Turks and Jews). Howl howl.
        There is only psychology and nothing more.
        You yourself think well, I propose two options:
        1-you are constantly being undeservedly frowned, frowned and frowned at, someone is constantly waking someone against you. You endure all this, endure, endure, then the end of patience comes and you justly answer the offenders. Moreover, the motivational energy of restoring justice is awesome.
        2-you constantly cling to someone and make fun of, name-calling, insulting, poisoning someone else against him. It is logical to assume that if the object of your chmyrenie was weaker, then you could just beat him or solve the problem. But the trouble is that when you don’t have the strength or courage, you begin to shit precisely on the quiet.
        And suddenly, the one whom you are already used to constantly fumbling and lowering suddenly suddenly gives strong lyuley to those whom you just pricked against him.
        Your reaction
        Minimum shock from what happened, which happened during the war with Georgia.
        The second reaction, something needs to be done. Bush, too, was seriously considering an attack on our position. As if I would like to finally break the object of ridicule, it’s kinda dumb, and it’s not convenient for those whom I’ve teased.
        The third reaction is a more or less sober analysis to the best of our ability.
        And here the most interesting awakens. At heart, a man still understands that he is wrong and went too far, he also understands that the one whom he brought is ready to tear it to shreds.
        And here are two ways out of this situation.
        1 main bully understands everything and for the sake of saving his skin shuts up and does not protrude
        2-if a badass scumbag, then goes crazy in a fight.
        If the amers and the Jews have a little brain left, then Russia does not wake up anything but a helpless howl. And if they are already so frostbitten, then why should we tolerate this scum, anyway, either they are us, or we are them. Otherwise, do not survive. So in extreme cases, you should try to apply including and nuclear weapons against Israel, etc., and then on the situation. A beast cornered is dangerous, and it is Russia that is driven.
        1. Airman
          +1
          24 May 2013 16: 10
          Quote: Bashkaus

          If the amers and the Jews have a little brain left, then Russia does not wake up anything but a helpless howl. And if they are already so frostbitten, then why should we tolerate this scum, anyway, either they are us, or we are them. Otherwise, do not survive. So in extreme cases, you should try to apply including and nuclear weapons against Israel, etc., and then on the situation. A beast cornered is dangerous, and it is Russia that is driven.

          But why should Russia use nuclear weapons, have it been driven into a corner? Russia has enough opportunities to stop the Jews without it. Having received a rebuff in the form of several dozen downed planes, they shut up, as has happened more than once.
        2. SASCHAmIXEEW
          0
          24 May 2013 16: 29
          They do not know the Russian proverb: DON'T BE DAMAGED, UNTIL QUIET !!!
        3. 0
          24 May 2013 16: 48
          "+" To you! I agree 100% But only, for a start, you can try without nuclear weapons, put them on amesto with conventional weapons!
        4. 0
          28 May 2013 19: 23
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          YES that you all attacked 3 volts, for example, it’s also just out of idle curiosity that I would be interested to see the reaction of the USA and Europe if Russia gives in properly to the Turks and Jews. Nuclear weapons. Intuitively I feel that nothing terrible will happen (well, except for Turks and Jews). Howl howl.

          And nuclear weapons are not needed, a developed country such as Israel is too dependent on infrastructure, a few conventional missile hits at key points and the country will be thrown back in development for decades.
      3. 0
        28 May 2013 19: 20
        Quote: Mechanic
        Dreamer

        A pair of warheads miss, and fly to Saudi Arabia.
    3. tixon444
      +1
      24 May 2013 10: 19
      Quote: djon3volta
      economic and political sanctions (such as oil and gas, we will not buy from you, I have a counter question, but from whom will you buy?)

      Good thinking! Well then, you really have to beat all the world oil exporters at once, so that there are no competitors left))) So we are sure to ... reach the third world level.
    4. +5
      24 May 2013 10: 37
      Quote: djon3volta
      if you fantasize and imagine that Russia delivered a nuclear strike on Israel

      Who Putin will give the order to strike in places where Jesus walked. Bad John, you think about our president!
      1. +1
        28 May 2013 19: 25
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Who Putin will give the order to strike in places where Jesus walked. Bad John, you think about our president!

        Yes, Jesus did not go THERE, the Bible describes moderate latitudes, and not the deserts of the Middle East.
    5. +3
      24 May 2013 12: 10
      Are you crazy? So far, only one country has delivered nuclear strikes. Why smear yourself with this shit? Especially fresh shit that will stink stronger than theirs.
    6. 0
      24 May 2013 14: 23
      It definitely won’t reach the nuclear one, they just shake nuclear weapons a little and that’s it.
    7. Katsin
      0
      25 May 2013 13: 37
      I already wrote that after such an attack we will have three submarines with nuclear weapons, so if your crazy dreams came true, we would take with us to the heavens the ten largest Russian cities. It’s good that comrade Putin is sane, which can’t be said about you ...
      1. Oleg Rosskiyy
        0
        26 May 2013 23: 55
        Quote: Katsin
        I already wrote that after such an attack we will have three submarines with nuclear weapons, so if your crazy dreams came true, we would take with us to the heavens the ten largest Russian cities.

        I do not wish you this, but you, perhaps, you would never have known about what you said above. So, let’s say good things, because Assad presses you, it should make your soul feel better. The main thing is not to harm yourself.
    8. sashka
      0
      25 May 2013 13: 51
      Quote: djon3volta
      But this is true, and I came to this conclusion a long time ago. I will even say more (once I voiced this here already), if you fantasize and imagine that Russia delivered a nuclear attack on Israel, then no country, including the United States, will try to do anything to Russia in the military plan. the maximum that will be is the most terrible howl in the history of mankind from all the stands of all sorts of UN, economic and political sanctions (like oil and gas we will not buy from you laughing, I have a counter question, but who will you buy from?). EVERYTHING! Nothing else will happen, absolutely nothing!
      there will even be countries (a little) that will welcome that Israel has suffered such a punishment, confident that Iran will stand by applauding the Russian leadership for this action! fellow

      you speak outright stupidity. Taking you seriously isn’t even funny .. Just litter (pfcbhftnt) Dear website
  29. -10
    24 May 2013 09: 49
    the article is nonsense of a madman, especially about the C300-400 and Iskander.
    1. Bashkaus
      +5
      24 May 2013 11: 50
      the article is not nonsense, people understand that they have naughty too much and have seriously pissed off. This is where the fear of retribution appears, and as they say, the eyes are great. So they are now sitting on treason that the Jews are waiting for our ships from the S400, that the Swedes are our invasion. They just understand their hopelessness and doom, and so it manifests itself in them in the form of "a super cool Russian army, which is obviously useless to resist"
      Although if they think this is good, then the breakdown of the will to resistance is already beginning)))
      1. -1
        24 May 2013 18: 33
        Quote: Bashkaus
        the article is not nonsense,

        I agree . it’s not even delirium.
    2. +1
      24 May 2013 13: 10
      This is not crazy nonsense, but brainwashing to Western readers, i.e. to prepare another hysteria, what a terrible and evil Russia is! belay
      1. +1
        24 May 2013 14: 06
        Dear it, I wrote an ardent anti-Semite in the USA, from the Internet magazine veteranstoday.com and there are a lot of darkness of such ardent anti-Semites.
        1. SASCHAmIXEEW
          0
          24 May 2013 16: 32
          These would be veterans, but to the US Congress !!!
  30. +6
    24 May 2013 09: 51
    The ships may be "old", but the crews are fighting. In Prishten. at the airfield, there were also a handful of paratroopers with light weapons, but only NATO members still got embarrassed. Likewise in Syria, clarity, clarity and firmness in defending their interests will cool the head of the "local authorities" from Israel.
  31. +14
    24 May 2013 09: 52
    In early January 1983, an eight-thousand contingent of Soviet troops was sent to Syria under the legend of the Kavkaz-2 military exercises. The contingent included two anti-aircraft missile regiments armed with ultra-long-range S-200VE systems.
    The main task of the anti-aircraft missile regiments was to stop violations of the air borders of the ATS. This fettered the hands of the Israelis, making the start of mass hostilities less and less likely. Regular Soviet units were not introduced into Lebanon, but there were numerous advisers in the Syrian units and units who took an active part in the hostilities. The appearance of Soviet anti-aircraft missile regiments instantly became known to Israel, which banned the flights of its aircraft in a 250-kilometer radius of effective destruction. The appearance of these air defense systems in Syria immediately forced the Americans to relocate their aircraft carriers and other warships to a considerable distance from the Syrian coast, and led to a reduction in violations of Syrian air borders by Israeli aviation, and airborne early warning and control aircraft (AWACS) generally began to fly only over the Mediterranean by the sea. "Now, the paw of the Soviet bear protects us," commented on the arrival of the Soviet anti-aircraft missile regiments with satisfaction. A.S. Khaddam, Vice-President of the SAR
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      +1
      24 May 2013 16: 35
      If, then, what ORFF wrote is true, then what are we afraid of? Someone from the knowledgeable, say-s-300 and Yakhont with Iskander will make such a rustle? If YES, then what are they afraid of.
    2. Katsin
      0
      25 May 2013 13: 44
      And now the Abel Halim Haddam you mentioned curses the Assad butcher and Russia helping him ... So when you believe him, do you order: then or now?
      1. Oleg Rosskiyy
        0
        26 May 2013 23: 59
        Quote: Katsin
        And now the Abel Halim Haddam you mentioned curses the butcher Assad and

        At the expense of the butcher you beguiled, he just crushes them.
  32. +7
    24 May 2013 09: 52
    Neither a plus nor a minus. It was written beautifully, patriotically, but somehow the author is too brave and easy.
    Unfortunately, this does not happen.
    1. +2
      24 May 2013 10: 30
      Quote: baltika-18
      Neither a plus nor a minus. It was written beautifully, patriotically, but somehow the author is too bravura and easy. So unfortunately it doesn’t happen

      - this is not a Russian article, this is a translation of the article of some foreigner, amer /, most likely. Therefore, it’s not a patriotic, but a panic-hysterical article - that’s how amers should evaluate it, because the author Sabzh is their compatriot. laughing
      1. 0
        24 May 2013 10: 50
        Quote: aksakal
        This is not a Russian article,

        Yes, in principle, it makes no difference to me. For as it is written, it will not happen anyway.
        1. +1
          24 May 2013 12: 35
          Quote: baltika-18
          For as it is written, it will not happen anyway.

          Believe it is necessary. For if you believe, it will certainly come true.
  33. +7
    24 May 2013 09: 55
    How these democrats got their fucking with their mongrels and henchmen when they are gone, so that the rest of the world breathes quietly!
  34. +2
    24 May 2013 09: 56
    Welcome back, comrades - sailors!
  35. +7
    24 May 2013 10: 01
    The article is good, but too patriotic. I think the Iskander will not get it, but definitely, Israel will not leave Syria alone. Provocations will be both armed and informational. Russia will definitely continue deliveries of the C300, but all transport ships should be accompanied by warships. Several of our missile ships must be in Syrian waters on a permanent basis and share information about the air situation with the Syrian military. Officially declare the inadmissibility of both aircraft and missiles 100 km away from the group. zone. To conduct an information war, up to the stuffing of unverified information. Shouting everywhere that we are for world peace and for universal democracy, and to do our own thing, beneficial to us. It's time to learn from our "partners" and beat them with their own methods.
    1. shamil
      +2
      24 May 2013 10: 42
      that is, act according to the Western model !!!!
  36. HAM
    +1
    24 May 2013 10: 07
    USA BAAAAL LOVERS ALIENS HANDS HEAT RAG. Just do not understand how the Jews led.
    1. +4
      24 May 2013 10: 41
      Quote: HAM
      . Just do not understand how the Jews led.

      You don’t forget that the main Jews are sitting in Washington. They have a normal plan, Israel enters the war and immediately the United States enters the war, then all NATO. If successful, they completely take control of the entire region and drag doubters over to their side, those who are minimized between the USA and Russia. They are far-sighted.
      1. +1
        24 May 2013 12: 22
        NATO responds to aggression against a NATO member state, and moreover to aggression, and not self-defense from a NATO member state. Israel is not a member of NATO. There can only be a provocation, as when the Amer blew up their own battleship in order to start a war.
        1. -3
          24 May 2013 14: 32
          Quote: zvereok
          There can only be a provocation, as when the Amer blew up their own battleship in order to start a war.

          Can I clarify what I mean ???
          1. Alexander-Tomsk
            0
            24 May 2013 21: 02
            The war with Spain at the beginning of the 20th century if my memory serves me right. Go over there with very interesting data - as far as I remember, the crew of the battleship at the time of the explosion consisted only of blacks, and not a single white. These are the multiculturalists wink
          2. +2
            24 May 2013 21: 14
            Quote: Toit
            Quote: zvereok
            There can only be a provocation, as when the Amer blew up their own battleship in order to start a war.

            Can I clarify what I mean ???


            Time:

            2 August 1964 in the Gulf of Tonkin two American destroyers, Maddox and Turner Joy, were attacked by the forces of North Vietnam. After a couple of days, in the midst of confusion in the command of the "Yankees", the destroyer Maddox announced the re-shelling. And although the crew soon denied the information, intelligence said it was intercepting reports that North Vietnamese had admitted to attacking. The US Congress, by voting on 466 with votes “for” and not a single “against”, adopted the Tonkin resolution, which gives the president the right to respond to this attack by any means. This marked the beginning of the war. Lyndon Johnson gave the order to inflict airstrikes on the naval facilities of North Vietnam (Operation Pierce Arrow). Surprisingly, the decision to invade the United States in Vietnam was made only by civilian leadership: Congress, President, Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara and Secretary of State Dean Rask. The Pentagon reacted without enthusiasm to the decision to "resolve the conflict" in Southeast Asia.

            Colin Powell, who was a young officer in those years, said: “Our military was afraid to tell the civilian leadership that this method of war leads to a guaranteed loss.”
            American analyst Michael Desch wrote: "Unconditional obedience of the military to civilian authorities leads, firstly, to the loss of their authority, and secondly, it unties the hands of official Washington for further, similar to the Vietnamese, adventures."


            Most recently, a statement was released in the United States by independent researcher Matthew Aide, who specializes in the history of the National Security Agency (US intelligence agency and counterintelligence), that key intelligence about the incident in the Gulf of Tonkin in 1964, which served as the reason for the US invasion of Vietnam, was falsified. The basis was the report of the NSA staff historian Robert Heynok, compiled in the 2001 year and declassified on the basis of the Freedom of Information Act (adopted by Congress in the 1966 year). It follows from the report that the NSA officers made an unintentional mistake in translating the information received as a result of the radio interception. Senior officers, who discovered the mistake almost immediately, decided to hide it by correcting all the necessary documents so that they indicated the reality of the attack on the Americans. High-ranking officials repeatedly referred to these false data in their speeches.

            Two:

            15 February 1898 of the year there was an explosion on the battleship "Maine", he sank, and 266 crew died. The US government immediately blamed Spain. After 100 years, the ship was lifted, while it turned out that the ship was blown up from the inside. It is possible that America decided not to wait for a reason to attack Spain and decided to accelerate events by sacrificing a couple of hundred lives.

            Three:

            Test tube at the UN as a pretext for the war in Iraq.

            PS: Not linear, I agree.
      2. -1
        24 May 2013 18: 35
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        You do not forget that the main Jews are in Washington.

        Alexander . and in Russia what? minor?
        1. 0
          28 May 2013 19: 31
          Quote: atalef
          Alexander . and in Russia what? minor?

          Apparently those Jews who are in Russia are not friends with those in America
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  37. +3
    24 May 2013 10: 07
    they constantly carry out retaliatory retaliatory measures as a “deterrence”.

    Very genocide reminiscent of the way ...
  38. +8
    24 May 2013 10: 12
    Russia needs to get up on its feet, push the fifth column, there is still no benefit from it, remove "demoliberals" from Power, there is not much time left. Russia is again alone against a cunning, clever, resourceful and thoroughly deceitful and far from poor Adversary - a descendant of Fascism, which was not finished off in 1945, nurtured and directed by our historical "partners". And again there is nowhere to retreat.
  39. +3
    24 May 2013 10: 14
    Israeli badasses never stood up to modern weapons

    Well, no matter how it was, but I don’t want to quarrel with the Jews, damn it, they opened a visa-free regime, how many people went there and our people rest there. We need to look for a way to peacefully resolve the issue, however, our authorities are doing so. It’s ugly that those bad ones are bad . Maybe we ourselves are to blame somewhere (our liberals) who give us reasons to think about a change of power or some other factors. To win or conquer the hearts of the countries of the world, the carrot and carrot are gentle and not the indiscriminate harassment of neighbors or potential friends.
    1. 0
      24 May 2013 16: 58
      then it’s necessary to completely break off diplomatic relations with the Jews, since they don’t understand for good! Those of ours, not Jews, who want to return, let them be informed!
    2. SASCHAmIXEEW
      0
      24 May 2013 17: 41
      We are to blame for the fact that they want to eat ... And "swear" with them here in RUSSIA, when the stolen from the Jewish oligarchs will be taken away! From the beginning, those Jews in offshores will rob them, and then we confiscate what was stolen from us here!
  40. dmb
    +5
    24 May 2013 10: 30
    Such articles are also necessary. It is clear that it does not suffer from the depth of analysis, but it can be attributed to good propaganda. One of my teachers in the Soviet years gave lectures in approximately the same vein (which for some reason the management really didn’t like), and with us, with the help of cursors, we grew confidence that we could stand and win if something happened. I think that everything that happened to our country happened not just because of people like this colonel, but because of those who did not like him much.
  41. +5
    24 May 2013 10: 40
    If you close your eyes to technical inaccuracies, then the article is certainly positive.
    But Israel is jumping soon, at such a pace. A couple of hundreds of Kyrgyz Republics will not regret them, in order to dispel the feeling of permissiveness, which is so reverently nurturing the United States in Israel.
    Well, at the same time, instead of rattling weapons, they will trade dates.
  42. +5
    24 May 2013 10: 57
    In order for the article to become believable, you need to stop greeting and smile with all sorts of netanyahu. Until then, unfortunately, these are dreams.
  43. +7
    24 May 2013 11: 00
    Yes, the Israeli army aviation is at risk of running into "trouble" in Syria, especially since they already want to destroy Russian defensive air defense missiles (S-300) and coastal anti-ship missile systems (Yahont) in Syria at the suggestion of the United States ... impunity ..
  44. +12
    24 May 2013 11: 00
    If everything, as in the article, would have swell for three days, for joy. drinks
  45. alex1309
    +3
    24 May 2013 11: 01
    Or maybe this article is aimed at helping some "smart people" from the West to correct their brains, if they have even a little bit of them, and to knock off playful little hands ...
  46. shamil
    +4
    24 May 2013 11: 18
    It will be cool if the Shark pops up off the coast of Syria, followed by Kuznetsov to protect the interests of democracy
    1. +5
      24 May 2013 11: 32
      Quote: shamil
      It will be cool if the Shark pops up off the coast of Syria, followed by Kuznetsov to protect the interests of democracy


      Kuznetsov will also surface ??? VMUHAHAHAHA "X! X! XX! X! X
      1. shamil
        0
        24 May 2013 18: 35
        in tow, but prishnee beech
  47. +1
    24 May 2013 11: 25
    Utopia ... the countries of Israel and Syria are very small. Any mass war will entail only self-destruction. even if this happens, I don’t see a pre-warblock so that our country at the moment can be successfully attacked from different sides of the border.
  48. -3
    24 May 2013 11: 30
    It turns out beautifully))) you can also load tanks on the koter and you can safely go into battle)))
  49. +20
    24 May 2013 11: 33
    Quote: Romn
    Utopian article, very nice to read it of course,

    Absolutely agree ;)
    1. +1
      24 May 2013 11: 49
      Super!!!!!!!!!!
  50. +4
    24 May 2013 11: 33
    Experience is available ... in the 80s of the last century, in the first aggression against Libya. The strike was then inflicted only by aircraft that took off from Europe. But not a single missile or plane rose from the US fleet ... then the Soviet fleet was stationed off the coast of Libya ... which openly stated on the air "if something moves in the US Navy ... then we are all to the star" ... and it helped.
    1. Marine One
      +1
      24 May 2013 13: 06
      Quote: Strashila
      The attack was then struck only by aircraft taking off from Europe. But not a single rocket or plane rose from the United States Navy.


      Are you talking about "Canyon Eldorado" 1986? With all due respect, but no need to tell fairy tales. A6 and A7 also flew from Europe with the F-111? Perfectly everything was lifted from aircraft carriers and bombed across Libya. And the ships of the 5th OPESK of the USSR Navy appeared at Tripoli when it was already burning down safely.
  51. 0
    24 May 2013 11: 39
    I very much doubt that Israel will do anything in the near future. No wonder Netanyahu was gloomy after the talks in Sochi.

    At this time, Assad took control of almost the entire country, made friends with Hezbollah and, very likely, acquired weapons. According to the latest data, they are no longer coddling at all, but are covering neighborhoods (with bombs, Iskanders, tornadoes, artillery?).
    1. +2
      24 May 2013 12: 56
      Quote: kirgudu
      At this time, Assad took control of almost the entire country, made friends with Hezbollah and, very likely, acquired weapons. According to the latest data, they are no longer coddling at all, but are covering neighborhoods (with bombs, Iskanders, tornadoes, artillery?).

      -Where is the Lord of the Sith? What's there in the key city of El Quseir? According to SABZh, everything is not so brilliant, it seems like according to SABZh, both the “Syrians” and the “Hezbollah” received lyules. This is true? Judging by numerous reviews from experts, El-Quseir is a very important city from the point of view of all logistics, and its taking by the Syrians under control will very quickly accelerate Syria’s transition to the CTO regime. But they take a long time to get something. Did Yakovina really write the truth? sad
      1. Katsin
        -1
        25 May 2013 13: 52
        Who cares, but I wish success to both sides in Syria...
  52. +3
    24 May 2013 11: 46
    This morning on the news they showed a burnt Israeli armored car in Qusrair, I wonder what kind of wind blew it there?
    1. +1
      24 May 2013 19: 08
      Quote: tomket
      This morning on the news they showed a burnt Israeli armored car in Qusrair, I wonder what kind of wind blew it there?

      This is the "Sufa-1" Israeli lightly armored jeep produced in Nazareth Illit until 2003, then there was a 2nd model and a third for a couple of years now. According to the sticker on the car, it follows that it must undergo an army MOT in October 2000, since if they didn’t change it, it means the car did not pass this MOT. Apparently, the IDF handed it over to Tsadahl at one time, and when it collapsed in 2000, it abandoned not only vehicles but also tanks.
    2. +1
      24 May 2013 19: 24
      The IDF press service stated that this was one of the jeeps that fell into the hands of Hezbollah in Lebanon. The Israeli army has not used this type of jeep for many years.

      The jeep is old, apparently - really a dealer.
      1. Anton Karpenko
        0
        25 May 2013 09: 57
        Did an “old” Israeli jeep (which the Syrian army destroyed) also drive from Israeli territory through the Golan Heights into Syria? Have you forgotten anything in Syria?
      2. 0
        26 May 2013 00: 25
        Were there already anti-aircraft weapons there too?
  53. +4
    24 May 2013 11: 50
    I think the Amers will be “happy” if a Russian nuclear submarine, which they had no idea about, AGAIN quietly and peacefully emerges among their naval order. It was like that smile
    Hello everybody
    1. Hudo
      +1
      24 May 2013 12: 01
      Quote: Stroibat stock
      I think the Amers will be “happy” if a Russian nuclear submarine, which they had no idea about, AGAIN quietly and peacefully emerges among their naval order.

      laughing like asking for directions laughing laughing
  54. +1
    24 May 2013 11: 59
    Sorry for being off topic, I just heard it on the news. Pyotr Todorovsky died.
    GREAT MAN, GREAT ARTIST, FRONT-WEARER, REAL WARRIOR!!! EVERLASTING MEMORY!!!
  55. vkz
    0
    24 May 2013 12: 10
    Quote: zvereok
    You need to have the courage to shoot down planes in Israeli airspace, but our sailors definitely won’t do this.

    I very much doubt that if the Jews attack our fleet, we will let it go unpunished.
    After all, Saakashvili at one time was also sure that we would be afraid to answer.
    1. +2
      24 May 2013 12: 29
      Quote: vkz
      Quote: zvereok
      You need to have the courage to shoot down planes in Israeli airspace, but our sailors definitely won’t do this.

      I very much doubt that if the Jews attack our fleet, we will let it go unpunished.
      After all, Saakashvili at one time was also sure that we would be afraid to answer.


      If they attack it will be too late. Israel will have losses, but we will lose the fleet.
  56. 0
    24 May 2013 12: 15
    Good article. It is advisable to duplicate it in the Western press - maybe it will stick with someone somewhere...
  57. Grigorich 1962
    +1
    24 May 2013 12: 24
    Israel is at great risk....and can only remain in the memory of those who live on another territory......The United States has always been an instigator......and is ready to go far in this....but they are putting their heads on the line they won’t....she’s the road...
  58. ed65b
    +1
    24 May 2013 12: 25
    I read this article yesterday with a lousy translation. The article seems to be from the USA. And of course I immediately thought about discussions with representatives of Israel. They did not have a worthy opponent; the Pillars of Democracy waved their sabers. Now go ahead. At the same time, we’ll check your air defense and all sorts of domes there and test the Merkava for professional suitability.
  59. Anton Karpenko
    +4
    24 May 2013 12: 26
    The further, the more people of the world are outraged by Israel's policies. In the foreseeable future, there is a weakening of the influence of the United States and, as a result, its inability to protect Israel from attacks by its enemy allies in the region, or even to help it supply weapons in a future war against Israel to the coalition of Qatar, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, Iran and Iraq . Even Israeli nuclear weapons will not help him - in response, an Iranian or Pakistani gift will arrive, which will lead to colossal casualties among the remnants of the Israeli civilian population. Although, the anti-Israeli coalition will not even have to use nuclear weapons in response to their use by Israel - as a retaliatory strike, it will be enough to fill it with chemical weapons, which Syria, Iran, Libya, and many other Arab League countries have - even Such trash as the Syrian bandits have it.
    1. Alexander-Tomsk
      +2
      24 May 2013 21: 09
      The most delicious thing about this is that the Israelis (God break your tongue, let them be Jews) will stop acting as innocent victims, showing more and more every year their essentially fascist ideology. I was shocked when I saw a story on one of the news channels about how they forced their compatriots - black Jewish emigrants from African countries - to take pills, as a result of which they were unable to give birth to children. Well, fascists, naturally.
      1. +1
        24 May 2013 22: 38
        Quote: Alexander-Tomsk
        Black Jewish emigrants from African countries were forced to take pills, as a result of which they were unable to give birth to children. Well, fascists, naturally.

        - so-called Ethiopian Jews. Repatriates. They didn’t put me on pills, they gave me a one-time injection that sterilized me once and for all. To the question, what kind of injection? the answer was simple “otherwise you will not be able to enter Israel!” I'm not just
        Quote: Alexander-Tomsk
        Ofigel

        - I just oh...ate! When I saw this news! When I started bringing you. Jewish comrades here demanded a link from me to
        Quote: Alexander-Tomsk
        news channels
        , it was Channel One, the Vremya program. I’ve never been an anti-Semite, but the prank with the Ethiopian Jews really unsettled me. How are they better than those who seventy years ago were just as concerned about the “purity of the race”?
        1. Katsin
          +1
          25 May 2013 13: 56
          Pure nonsense... This never happened... By the way, I dated an Ethiopian Jewish woman for a year, almost got married... And they feel great here... and unlike other repatriates, the state fully finances their purchase of an apartment
  60. German
    +1
    24 May 2013 12: 46
    I read and didn’t understand only one thing: are there really any sober-minded people left in gay Europe? (I’m talking about the author, because the article is not signed) But no matter what, the author is undoubtedly a+++!
  61. +1
    24 May 2013 13: 03
    somehow a completely anti-Jewish article of some kind =) Yes, they don’t have the guts to make an official raid... try to jump away from a submarine or damage it in the port with divers - maybe...
  62. +2
    24 May 2013 13: 05
    to the author big and fat ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++
  63. +1
    24 May 2013 13: 08
    This article, as noted, is American, that is, most likely it is a political order from the State Department.
    in America they understand that Jews are getting out of control, apparently ordinary dialogue does not help, so they let the scribblers go, it’s very simple, the article should go to the masses of ordinary people. that having realized the real consequences, they cooled the howls of their leaders... The Americans don’t want a big mess, since everything smells like World War 3.
    P.S. This is just my opinion, it may be wrong.
  64. iulai
    0
    24 May 2013 13: 27
    Not an article, but a balm for the soul! I just doubt whether Putin has enough determination?
  65. 0
    24 May 2013 13: 34
    I think enough. because otherwise it will be a failure for Russia... and the Kremlin understands this very well. Yes, in the country itself there may be quite a bang
  66. Anton Karpenko
    +2
    24 May 2013 14: 14
    Meanwhile, Israel lost its sense of reality and completely went too far: "The Israeli army will not allow Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to acquire modern air defense systems, Israeli Air Force commander Major General Amir Eshel said on Wednesday evening. “Our air superiority is the main guarantee of future victories, and therefore we have no right to lose it.”.

    They already dare to indicate who has the right to possess certain weapons and who does not!
  67. 0
    24 May 2013 14: 21
    let them try!!! I think these are just empty words, they have been shouting for a long time that they will destroy Iran. oh nothing happens yet.
  68. +1
    24 May 2013 14: 22
    I support Putin’s actions in Syria. I am satisfied with the ruins.
  69. 0
    24 May 2013 14: 24
    They won’t hit Israel with the UN and similar crap, they won’t dare, but Israel will go broke on diapers if they want to bomb Tartus, our operators will be, not Arabs who don’t even want to approach the equipment.
    1. DimaA3678
      -3
      24 May 2013 15: 22
      Quote: westland
      , but Israel will go broke on diapers if our operators want to bomb Tartus

      Why should Israel spend money on diapers for your operators? buy it for yourself laughing
  70. +1
    24 May 2013 14: 25
    You need to clearly understand that Putin has trump cards. since the people will definitely support the attack on the Jews))
    1. +1
      24 May 2013 16: 26
      Who are these people? You and your friends? I lived next door to Jews for many years; we were friends and grew up together. Many people live there now, not from a good life...why the hell should I support these actions? Who are the Syrians to me? Nobody.
  71. -1
    24 May 2013 14: 31
    He will certainly support it and vote for it, but they have their own policy that can change at any moment and they don’t take the opinion of the people into account.
  72. -1
    24 May 2013 14: 33
    I don't think. since this will decide whether Putin will remain in power or not...
  73. 0
    24 May 2013 14: 44
    A very sound idea! There must be peace!!!
    1. The comment was deleted.
      1. +2
        24 May 2013 17: 29
        The world should be without cretins - go have fun...
      2. +2
        24 May 2013 17: 31
        Quote: old man54
        and this world should be without JEWS!!!!!!!!!!

        Who will we blame if there are no Jews?)))
        1. +3
          24 May 2013 17: 35
          The Indians believed in evil spirits....they did not know about the existence of Jews)))
      3. +2
        24 May 2013 17: 57
        Quote: old man54
        and this world should be without JEWS!!!!!!!!!!

        Hitler already suggested this. Come up with something more original.
        Yes, by the way, remember in your spare time how Hitler ended up.
        1. 0
          24 May 2013 20: 00
          Quote: old man54
          and this world should be without JEWS!!!!!!!!!!

          So Natsik showed his true face.
          1. Anton Karpenko
            0
            25 May 2013 10: 12
            Let me correct him - the world should be without Zionists. It is they who are doing everything to ensure that the state of Israel does not exist, thinking that they are strengthening it.
            1. 0
              26 May 2013 21: 49
              I agree with you, although... I’m afraid that they have already absorbed this idea and line of behavior so much, with their mother’s milk, that it will be very difficult for them to accept the Light. But of course some can and could have done it before; examples are known to everyone.
          2. nevopros
            0
            26 May 2013 23: 44
            No, no, no, Israel is valuable for its geographical significance. And in light of recent events around Israel - he was prescribed the fate of Eastern European Jews (for Schneerson - a whole operation to withdraw through the Third Reich, for the rest - ...). Such a ritual of sacrifice seems absurd. However, after listening to the “scare stories about railway masons,” it becomes obvious that someone doesn’t care about those who forgot about the Promised Land and found their homeland (at what cost is a question for Satanovsky and Shevchenko, let them “entertain the goyim”). Well, what if the interests coincide with the “other elite,” the Anglo-Saxon (war on foreign territory has always been in their interests)? This will be fun...
      4. 0
        24 May 2013 17: 57
        Quote: old man54
        and this world should be without JEWS!!!!!!!!!!

        Hitler already suggested this. Come up with something more original.
        Yes, by the way, remember in your spare time how Hitler ended up.
        1. -2
          25 May 2013 15: 36
          Quote: Nagan
          Quote: old man54
          and this world should be without JEWS!!!!!!!!!!

          Hitler already suggested this. Come up with something more original.
          Yes, by the way, remember in your spare time how Hitler ended up.

          How did Hitler end? In Argentina, in the 1970s, he died of old age.
          1. -1
            25 May 2013 15: 48
            Why not on Mars? To rave, so completely
            1. -1
              26 May 2013 01: 11
              Quote: il grand casino
              Why not on Mars? To rave, so completely

              and I think, why such an avatar, a stupid, rather idiotic expression on his face and a bewildered smile? Now, after comments like this, I really understand that it probably corresponds to the original. :)) If you don’t know something, then you don’t have to make yourself look like a complete idiot, but you can just ask and don’t be shy! :) Or is he also a Jew, “God’s chosen one”?
              1. -1
                26 May 2013 10: 41
                Do you (however, you can also say “you”, you don’t hesitate to switch to “you” without asking) do you have at least one fact confirming your words? If yes please. Just please, not assumptions, but a historically and documented fact.
                P.S. No, not a Jew (although I don’t see anything shameful in being a Jew), I’m half German, half Russian
                1. -1
                  26 May 2013 22: 18
                  ok, to “you”, sorry! If all, if I may say so, are “official documents” with the help of which the common people are fooled into gathering, then 50% of them are only suitable for the toilet. It’s strange to me that you still believe so much in officialdom. And about the battleship "Novorosisk" and about the nuclear submarine "Kursk" you probably also trust the official papers completely? :) Of course, I don’t have the links you ask for, and in principle there can’t be any, because The official version of the countries that won the Second World War is known to everyone and is indisputable. but there are a lot of books and articles on the topic, and they are much more logical than the official stuff. Those who seek knowledge will find them; I will not write their names to you. I will say more that several years ago I PERSONALLY watched the doc on Central Television (I think “Russia”). a film where the official version is very subtly and timidly but very justifiably questioned and criticized. And you yourself know what the office is actually based on. version of the death of Adolf Hitler and endorsed by the victorious countries in the Second World War? I wanted to ask this question to a forum member under the mattress flag, but oh well, apparently he doesn’t have the courage to continue this dialogue. :) In broken-down Berlin, in 1945, where there were all sorts of corpses everywhere, the Reich Chancellery found a burned troupe of a man and for some reason started it to investigate specifically for belonging to Hitler. Isn’t it interesting anymore? :)) And based on his jaw (teeth), it seems like his personal dentist made the assumption that this is Hitler’s jaw. AND THAT'S ALL!!! And recently, as soon as it became possible to do a DNA analysis, there were people in the West who wanted to conduct this analysis with the DNA of his brother, who seems to be still alive. And what? And the jaw suddenly disappeared in the super storage facilities of the USSR/Russia. Next, you need to use your brain, and not just be able to read!

                  PS. Why did you switch to “you”? Strained your tone in the form of “go have fun..”. Since childhood, I always wanted to hit him in the m... for something like this, so I...
  74. 0
    24 May 2013 15: 15
    The article is a complete provocation, whipping up hysteria around the Russian presence in the war zone.
    None of the sane people (even if the Americans really want it, but God’s chosen ones cannot be suspected of being at a loss) will decide to attack the ships of the Russian Navy. Who needs a Tochka or an Iskander in their garden!?
    Let them trend little by little, and as the trend grows, strengthen the group. (When will the Mistral go into operation there?)
  75. nightmare12
    0
    24 May 2013 15: 19
    It's high time for these assholes to show Kuzka's mother
    1. +2
      24 May 2013 16: 16
      Let's go to Syria, show us...If a mess breaks out, our squadron will cease to exist...At least have pity on the guys. Of course, we’ll break in later, we’ll break in so hard that it won’t seem like much... but they won’t break in either. It's worth it? How many guys will die for nothing?
  76. +5
    24 May 2013 15: 26
    Maybe off topic, but still: Those who come up with the names of our weapons should be given orders.
    Here abroad, for example. In Germany there were Tiger and Panther tanks. Leopard, right there. In Israel there is Merkava (war chariot), in the states - Abrams, in France Leclerc. Force! And here we are: T-72B Slingshot. Few? Well, you don’t care about the 9M14M Malyutka, 9M123 Chrysanthemum anti-tank missiles and the Metis anti-tank missile with a Mulat night sight. Scary? Now it’s going to be more scary, here’s a rocket called Kromka. And to support the Slingshots T-72E|T-72-120 Banana, there is also a heavy tank support combat vehicle, the Frame. At the extreme, the Hood and Scythe is a homing anti-tank combat element for a cluster warhead in artillery. So be afraid, enemies!
    It’s also better not to interfere with us from the sea. As soon as you sneak up on a submarine, you will immediately be greeted by Medvedka-1 and Medvedka-2, an anti-submarine complex. Plus Bakhcha-U is a universal turret combat module. Otherwise you’ll run into the Bal coastal defense missile system. Better drown yourself right away.
    If you come at us with artillery, it will be worse for you. What do you have there? American Paladin? English Archer? But there are self-propelled howitzers 2S1 Gvozdika, 2S3 Akatsiya, self-propelled mortar 2S4 Tulip and long-range self-propelled guns 2S5 Giatsint and 2S7 Pion, capable of firing nuclear shells. And an 82-mm automatic mortar 2B9 Vasilek, if anyone survived. Smell the bouquet. It got boring? It’s okay, there’s Kapustnik (automatic fire control system for cannon artillery and MLRS), have fun. Not for long, really. Zoo (a system for detecting positions of firing artillery) will detect all your positions.
    Well, our foreign infantry will die like that. Flamethrowers TOS-1 and TOS-2, Pinocchio and Karabas, respectively, are powerful things. There we will also add Rakushka (BTR-D3), Traumatism (new medical armored vehicle of the Airborne Forces), Robot (BTR-RD), BTR-D KShM Soroka, Budka (this is BMD-2), Autonomy (new ATGM), Povozka-D1 (RKhM for the Airborne Forces), Obzhimka-K, Riot (stationary satellite communication station, protected), Vivarium (automatic control system for Smerch), Omnipresent (these are two-link tractors DT-10, DT-30). And our landing force is well armed. Showcase (special grenade launcher), under-barrel grenade launcher GP-30 Shoes. So that it’s easier for you to run back, Mowgli - Night Vision Device, BEARDED MAN (hand flamethrower).
    For saboteurs and spies, we can use the Argument - a telescopic baton with a ball for the Ministry of Internal Affairs, or telescopic batons Surprise and Nadezhda, Tenderness handcuffs, multiple-action light-sound grenade Ecstasy, escort handcuffs for five people Bouquet, and so as not to run away - the same Tenderness with a fixation device - Funny, electric shock Laska...
    And if anything happens, we’ll send an intercontinental ballistic missile overseas - Courier, which will deliver the nuclear charge wherever needed. And the Molodets rocket will also try, delivering as many as ten charges. Poplar too. Do you think there are only three of them and all on Plyushchikha? This mistake may be the last one in your life.
    So no big deal!
    Well, even before the heap, throw in the SGK (small-armed grenade launcher complex) Silence, remote-controlled grenade launcher 6S3 Vise, KUV 9K117 Agony, anti-personnel mine Butterfly (PFM-1), Belka - RS 140 mm caliber M14S (with BOV), Fearlessness (laser simulator firing 9F824), Exhaust (12,7 mm sniper silent rifle 6S8), Nail (shot for the GP-25 with CS gas) (and its manual version - respectively Drift) (And the GP-25 itself was also called well: Bonfire), Brigade-level ACS air defense missile system Conductor, proximity fuse Semi-final 9E343, Prygunya (element of the 9N235 cluster anti-personnel warhead), tandem grenade for RPG-7 (PG-7VR (7P28)) Summary (so, to summarize...), nuclear depth charge Scalp ( 5F84). (Scalp the Kraken?), regimental-level artillery automated control system Uspekh, silent AGK Kanaryka (6S1), self-propelled gun 2S9-1 Sviristelka, fire-fighting system Iney (3ETs13) and anti-napalm system Soda, radio station Bayan (R-135 on the Ural-375D chassis) , 125 mm BPS Hairpin (3BM22).
    1. 0
      24 May 2013 18: 31
      Well done! Made me laugh!
    2. 0
      24 May 2013 20: 06
      Bravo colleague!!! The name is so loud and biting!!! You can feel the hard work of the Military Brains :)))
  77. gladiatorakz
    +3
    24 May 2013 15: 33
    It is unlikely that Russia will begin to rivet Israel. 1. The Jewish lobby is too strong. 2. There is zero benefit for the Russian Federation. But it's good for the USA. 3. Not everything will be as simple as it is written in the article. This is not a computer game.
    It is much more effective to support Syria with weapons and politics.
  78. misham
    +5
    24 May 2013 15: 39
    Stupid provocative article. Such a conflict is incredible.
    No one will fire at Russian ships. Even the Americans did not try to bomb Soviet (civilian) ships in Haiphong. They just mined the water area. But this was officially announced. The cargo will be intercepted after delivery to Syrian or Lebanese territory. There are so many options here.
    What grouping will the Russian fleet be able to assemble off the coast of Israel? The Black Sea Fleet and the Baltic Fleet do not count. The Northern Fleet is far away. Long-range aviation will not arrive either. Fire at Israel with ICBMs. Also incredible. Theoretically, Russia can assemble some kind of naval group (submarine, RK, Admiral Kuznetsov will not make it). But the Mediterranean Sea is "NATO Pond". Sixth Fleet, Navy and Air Force of Turkey, Italy, France + Israel
    No one will allow the world to slide into a nuclear war. The article was written by some propagandist in the style of “The Russians are coming”
    1. +4
      24 May 2013 16: 13
      But how many advantages everyone has collected on it... the main thing is to crap on the Jews. Now, if everyone doesn’t like them so much, go to Syria, “Palestine” or Lebanon and fight with them. It’s funny, we screwed up our relationship with Israel in the 50s, and now we hang all the dogs on them. Now I'm picking up the minuses)))
      1. gladiatorakz
        0
        25 May 2013 10: 13
        Quote: il grand casino
        Now, if everyone doesn’t like them so much, go to Syria, “Palestine” or Lebanon and fight with them.

        Rather, Wall Street is the main battleground for the Jews.
  79. +2
    24 May 2013 15: 56
    The author is wishful thinking. Most likely we will supply weapons through third countries. We will help with advisers, in general, the Vietnamese scenario but in an Arabic version.
  80. +1
    24 May 2013 16: 05
    Yes, the Israeli army aviation is at risk of running into "trouble" in Syria, especially since they already want to destroy Russian defensive air defense missiles (S-300) and coastal anti-ship missile systems (Yahont) in Syria at the suggestion of the United States ... impunity ..
  81. terry
    +5
    24 May 2013 16: 19
    It is, of course, wonderful to sit somewhere in a dacha in the Moscow region and write “hurray” articles about our future victories, about our heroes somewhere in the Mediterranean.

    This reminds me of something - either the situation before the Russo-Japanese War, or before the Patriotic War.

    When a mass fight breaks out, the actual scenario will be difficult to determine.

    How long the fleet can hold out is always an extremely uncertain question, neither for us nor for the “enemies.”

    Therefore, the best weapon is the weapon of diplomats and politicians - and it is called brains!!!

    When there are no brains they start swinging a club...
  82. terry
    0
    24 May 2013 16: 29
    Well, the article is interesting for what:

    “The United States sent over three hundred cruise missiles to the Mediterranean Sea”:
    http://warfiles.ru/show-31519-ssha-napravili-v-sredizemnoe-more-2-apl-klassa-oga
    yo.html

    The US Navy has sent two Ohio-class nuclear submarines to the eastern Mediterranean, each carrying 154 Tomahawk cruise missiles with a range of 1,6 kilometers.
    1. djon3volta
      -2
      24 May 2013 17: 50
      Quote: terry
      The United States sent over three hundred cruise missiles to the Mediterranean Sea

      The S-300 is precisely designed to shoot down things like missiles and airplanes.
  83. 0
    24 May 2013 16: 34
    no big deal they are subsonic... quite an easy target for 300
    1. 0
      24 May 2013 16: 37
      Yeah, where are you collecting missiles for 208 tomahawks... it wouldn’t be scary, no one would worry
      1. +1
        24 May 2013 20: 53
        308, there was an error))
      2. AlexW
        -2
        24 May 2013 20: 57
        Quote: il grand casino
        Yeah, where are you collecting missiles for 208 tomahawks... it wouldn’t be scary, no one would worry
        Yes, the S-300 is a bit much, but Yakhontov and others need a sikoko to gurgle these two submarines - stuffed with tomahawks, Eh?
        1. 0
          24 May 2013 21: 14
          Strike first? Can. And then what will we do...give the whole world nuclear gifts to each other?
          1. AlexW
            0
            25 May 2013 05: 43
            The first is not necessary. Not all 308 will be fired in one gulp. The first ten will be shot down, the boats will reveal themselves. They will respond and cover. What remains for Assad - he has nothing to lose.
            1. -2
              25 May 2013 10: 54
              If he is not an idion, he has something to lose, for example the existence of his land and his people. Otherwise they will create a nuclear desert there... and where will the people of Syria be?
              1. AlexW
                0
                25 May 2013 18: 17
                Where, where... in Israel laughing They will rush there from Syria... although the radioactive cloud will reach there too. It’s unlikely that it will respect state borders. Why should Assad lose - he’s a “wholesome dictator” - he has fresh examples before the eyes of Gadaffi and Saddam. If he doesn’t resist, the “democratizers” will hang him or worse - the cannibals have already activated. So he will resist. And what happens is that we will bomb you, your country, but don’t you dare, otherwise it will be worse. How much worse can it be? fellow
                1. -2
                  25 May 2013 18: 25
                  It will be worse that the people die, and not their leader. And if he only thinks about himself, then what kind of... leader is he?
  84. +1
    24 May 2013 16: 35
    Romn RU
    With regards to riots, you can’t go far behind textbooks, if you look at our opposition if we look at the current one on national grounds, then for some reason most of it is again from sunny Israel!


    And don’t tell me... this Israeli “opposition” is fed up. They don’t like everything, everything is wrong in Russia, and the better the country gets, the worse it gets for the poor things. I don’t understand: during the USSR, Jews were not released (I think it was a BIG MISTAKE), the whole West and the “WSA” were shouting about their rights... but now - not only the doors, the GATES are open - forward! But no, if you leave, it will apparently be more difficult to do mischief to the country from afar! It’s better here, to do as much harm as possible, to SUCK out all the resources and wealth of the country, and maybe again arrange a civil war for the Russians, so that brother against brother, son against father... Still, with a few exceptions, they are BAD people.
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  86. vitas
    +5
    24 May 2013 16: 46
    Sorry for being off topic, just wanted to share... laughing

  87. +3
    24 May 2013 16: 51
    we can say that this is the first full-scale deployment of the Russian fleet in the Mediterranean in 20 years with its possible combat use outside our homeland! has already caused incredible hysteria among the local fauna! what are they so afraid of?? the fact that this escort is guarded by an S-300 is most likely true! but it looks like the Americans really aren’t going to prevent this!! This is where the hysteria of Israel comes from, they are afraid that their allies will LEAVE THEM and therefore they are shouting as loudly as possible, knocking on all the pipes!!!! It seems that the states are already playing a TRIPLE GAME, or they want to use our hands to start a large-scale war in the Middle East, followed by accusing us of all mortal sins!!! or DRAIN Israel, again with our hands, which also mildly interferes with them and Israel senses it with its fifth point (damn allies laughing)! BUT IN ANY CASE WE WILL BE THE AGGRESSORS AGAIN!! and this action will finally untie the amers’ hands! so it’s better to let them think a hundred times about which horse they are betting on before teasing the RUSSIAN FLEET!!!!
  88. myfutureamerica. org
    +1
    24 May 2013 16: 56
    Rarely have I read such nonsense. Firstly, Israel is not opposed to Russia. Israel is confronting a threat to its security because... is an extremely small country surrounded by hostile, unstable, undemocratic, backward countries, which are supported in this state by the West, especially the USA, so that oil can only be sold for the US Dollar. Russia confronts the United States directly, because they want not to be interfered with in doing what they need.

    As for the hypothetical clash between Israel and Russia, Russia will of course understand that Israel is not acting out of boredom, but because how else can it protect its citizens from terror, warrior, etc. Everyone has red lines, it’s just that Israel had them right on their bodies, while Russia had them at Stalingrad, and maybe beyond the Urals. Since the leadership of Russia contains more educated people than many of the commentators on these articles, and sometimes the authors, everything will be done in such a way as to defend our own and not step on other people’s red lines. Hi all.
    1. +3
      24 May 2013 17: 32
      Bravo, one of the few sane thoughts today
    2. Stalinets
      0
      27 May 2013 00: 57
      Make war by deception. Don't expect anyone to check your weaving speeches. Israel is the author of the war in Syria. And not only in it.........". Israel does not act out of boredom, but because how else can it protect its citizens from terror, warrior, etc...." - bravo, you have surpassed Dr. Goebbels . I cried... fool
    3. 0
      28 May 2013 19: 45
      Quote: myfutureamerica. org
      Rarely have I read such nonsense. Firstly, Israel is not opposed to Russia. Israel is confronting a threat to its security because... is an extremely small country surrounded by hostile, unstable, undemocratic, backward countries, which are supported in this state by the West, especially the USA, so that oil can only be sold for the US Dollar. Russia confronts the United States directly, because they want not to be interfered with in doing what they need.

      Well, who called them? They themselves climbed into the “wasp’s nest”, and wasps are like that, even if they don’t eat them, they bite them.
  89. 0
    24 May 2013 16: 58
    terry EN
    ... the best weapon is the weapon of diplomats and politicians - and it is called brains!!!
    When there are no brains they start swinging a club...


    It seems that the USA, Israel and their allies have long had no BRAINS..., although these countries are controversial issues are resolved this way, and the UNCONTROVERSIAL ones are dividing the WORLD for the so-called “national interests”, and only their OWN interests.
  90. +3
    24 May 2013 17: 14
    Russia has drawn a red line for Israel. This is Syria. Let them draw conclusions!
  91. misham
    +2
    24 May 2013 17: 31
    The site's forum is descending into anti-Semitism.
    There is a civil war in Syria. Both sides are fighting for their homeland with outside support. (Hezbollah, IRGC, Al-Qaeda, PMCs, Russian and Ukrainian advisers and other gangs) War crimes are committed by both sides. There are no right and wrong. The crisis in Syria is not caused by the West and Israel, but solely by internal problems.
    What is better for Israel and the United States: to have an authoritarian but predictable regime or Chechnya (from the time of Dudayev), Somalia or Afghanistan. There is no oil in Syria either. But there are a lot of weapons and ammunition (including chemical weapons)
    1. -1
      24 May 2013 19: 47
      By the way, Israel still has its benefits from the war in Syria and from the unrest in Egypt - firstly, unrest and wars weaken these two countries anyway... And secondly, in Syria, Jews “on the sly” (under the guise of a civil war) can decide their long-standing questions about the destruction of strategic Syrian objects - the restoration of which, in any case, will take years or even decades... Which is what they are actually doing now...
  92. EnglishGenosse
    -3
    24 May 2013 17: 39
    I don’t understand at all why we are fussing with this situation, if we have already decided to protect Syria from the intervention of other countries that are determined to overthrow the ruling regime by any means. We need to send our troops, under the pretext of protecting our citizens and our allies. And within a week it will all be over. In the meantime, we will remain inactive in Syria and the civilian population will die, children, women and the elderly. At the hands of rebels paid by the US and Europe. Therefore, we need to act. And emerge from this war as winners.
    1. +2
      24 May 2013 18: 49
      Will you go where they can actually kill you? Well, in these troops? Or will you send someone else?
    2. +2
      24 May 2013 20: 03
      Quote: RussischGenosse
      And emerge from this war as winners.
      - like in Afghanistan?
      Quote: RussischGenosse
      We need to send our troops, under the pretext of protecting our citizens and our allies.
      - it's just recklessness. Americans are just waiting for this. Information about the bloody regime will fly all over the world, towhich not only dictates within the country, but also supports similar regimes etc. Public opinion will be prepared against the Russian Federation at lightning speed, and the “liberation” army of NATO and Israel, as well as mercenaries, will do their best to “save” the Syrian people “from the bloody hands of Putin’s interventionists.” Neither money nor resources are enough to such an expensive game against the West. Here you need to be smarter, more cunning...
      1. +1
        24 May 2013 22: 45
        Quote: Masterzserg
        Here you need to be smarter, more cunning...

        - well, sometimes a skillful bluff, when the threat of military operations is skillfully intensified instead of the military operations themselves, can turn out to be more effective than the military operations themselves. I’m not sure that this is exactly the situation in this case - the West needs a war, it has trillions of dollars in debt, and it will get this war, whether we want it or not. So what happens is what happens. Matches, salt, grains? Stock up
  93. USNik
    0
    24 May 2013 17: 43
    One must expect triple meanness from the sons of Moses and NATO members and their henchmen. Israel will start with a minor provocation, and while indignant Russia will pour out notes of protest to the deaf world community, THEY can strike the Crimea with Ottoman forces, the Kuril Islands with the Japanese, Ossetia with rodents, set Karabakh on fire, set fire to the Chinese Tibet, the Indians' rebellious provinces... We have to wait EVERYTHING AT ONCE, a massive strike by armies and attacks by terrorists and, naturally, a knock-down information strike. But I hope this option has been calculated long ago and the answer is ready soldier
  94. +2
    24 May 2013 18: 10
    PETER TODOROVSKY DIED.
    1. -3
      24 May 2013 18: 50
      Judging by your earlier statements, you seem to be happy about this.

      Pyotr Todorovsky was born on August 26, 1925 in the city of Bobrynets, Kirovograd region, Ukrainian SSR, into a Jewish family.
      1. 0
        25 May 2013 10: 38
        “Judging by your earlier statements, you seem to be happy about this.”
        Mr. Pimply.
        What is this comment for? A vivid demonstration of his petty soul and way of thinking.
        What can I say? Statement of fact.
      2. +1
        25 May 2013 19: 04
        What a difference it makes where this master of cinema was born! We need to honor his memory. Again "Svidomo" have let themselves go!
    2. sashka
      +1
      24 May 2013 19: 50
      Quote: retired
      PETER TODOROVSKY DIED.

      And what ? The other day I was talking to Mom.. He’s afraid to die.. He died twice. There’s nothing you can do about it.. There’s nothing scarier than life..
  95. NOBODY EXCEPT US
    +2
    24 May 2013 18: 16
    I risk incurring the wrath of the “patriots,” but it seems to me that the author should be interested in the Drug Enforcement Administration.....this is clearly some kind of heavy product.....you can’t imagine something like that from weed........and some commentators also raise questions.....is a person aware of what time and where he is.....after some sayings the hair stands on end....ward No. 6.....
  96. -2
    24 May 2013 18: 39
    article plus. I liked the relative restraint of the author.
    no one is going to destroy Telavi, but simply under the guise of a preventive retaliatory strike, you can put an end to many Western projects. and it will become easier for Syria and perhaps the tension will subside over time. But there is still a danger of global conflict.
    Amers are cowards. They are afraid of both losing and getting involved in a conflict. Yes, they have colossal power, but their US Marines will not fight for a can of stew, they need huge investments, but for them, conducting military operations with a strong enemy is generally nonsense. In addition, now the trees themselves are breathing, and a wounded animal is doubly dangerous.
    1. +1
      24 May 2013 19: 03
      Quote: silver_roman
      Amers are cowards. They are afraid of both losing and getting involved in conflict.

      Well, well, poor student. Bring me a couple or five years. when the states weren't at war
      World War I (1914-1918)
      US Occupation of the Dominican Republic (1916-1924)
      World War II (1939-1945)
      Indochina war (1945-1954)
      Civil War in Paraguay (1947)
      The Korean War (1950-1953)
      The war in Vietnam (1957-1975)
      Guatemala Civil War (1960-1996)
      Operation in the Bay of Pigs (1961)
      Colombian Civil War (1964 — present)
      US Occupation of the Dominican Republic (1965-1966)
      Afghan War (1979 — 1989)
      U.S. Invasion of Grenada (1983)
      US Invasion of Panama (1989)
      1991 Gulf War
      1999 NATO war against Yugoslavia
      2001-present || War in Afghanistan (since 2001)

      And that's not all. because local conflicts are not included here.
      1. +5
        24 May 2013 19: 57
        A very interesting list - especially US opponents are of interest!!! Among them there are only Eskimos and Papuan tribes - and America has already bombed all the other banana countries :)))
        Yeees !!! How could they defeat them!!! AMERICAN HEROISM - dumping your stale ammunition on the heads of the natives of godforsaken countries!!!
        1. 0
          25 May 2013 12: 22
          Quote: Selevc
          A very interesting list - the opponents of the USA are especially interesting!!! Among them there are no Eskimos and Papuan tribes - and America has already bombed all the other banana countries :)))

          Well, list for me who the USSR/Russia fought with in the 20-21st century. All superpowers. Especially Afghanistan, Georgia or Chechnya.
          Just ask yourself, could the Russian army crush Saddam or Yugoslavia or Libya in a month, and the war in Afghanistan has had more successes, and many fewer casualties.
          If we talk about facts.
          1. -1
            25 May 2013 14: 15
            I'm shocked by you.
            Do you think that in Chechnya the Russian Federation fought only with Chechens??? do you think they would have lasted at least a day if there had not been outside funding???? and the sides were different, both from abroad and in our country at that time there were so many shady personalities.
            Any war by the Russian Federation is a war of at least a dozen more countries. Of course, not direct clashes, but at least political, moral, financial and often technical support.
            and the fact that we are not fighting says only one thing: who the true parasite is.
            1. -3
              25 May 2013 18: 58
              The first helpers of the separatists were Ukrainians
              1. +1
                26 May 2013 01: 22
                There is no need to confuse citizens of Ukraine and various groups like UNAUNSO (or something like that). Besides, I am a citizen of the Russian Federation and was actually born in the USSR. so your hint is not helpful!
            2. 0
              26 May 2013 08: 08
              Quote: silver_roman
              I'm shocked by you.
              Do you think that in Chechnya the Russian Federation fought only with Chechens??? do you think they would have lasted at least a day if there had not been outside funding???? and the sides were different, both from abroad and in our country at that time there were so many shady personalities.

              I'm the same with you. Amers fought and are fighting in Afghanistan only with Afghans, in Iraq - only with Iraqis?
              Quote: silver_roman
              Any war by the Russian Federation is a war of at least a dozen more countries. Of course, not direct clashes, but at least political, moral, financial and often technical support.

              Let's take Iraq, Iran sponsors and helps Shiite militias with technology and weapons. Or is it a secret for you.
              For some reason, just as Russia is fighting with the Chechens, it is with the whole world, but as the Amers are fighting, it is only with the aborigines armed with flintlock rifles
              1. 0
                27 May 2013 14: 49
                belay
                ok, let's do this: who are the Americans fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan? with the Taliban, al-Qaeda. Now tell me, at least who of these two movements was not sponsored by America or their satellites? or are you one of those who believe in American democracy and their true war on terrorism???? and September 11 and “restoring order” in Syria and Libya???
                And what can we say about the fact that the United States is part of more than one agreement on combating drug trafficking. and how does this fit with the fact that since NATO arrived in Afghanistan, drug trafficking and the area of ​​land for drug use have increased 100 times (!)!!!!!

                Let's take Iraq, Iran sponsors and helps Shiite militias with technology and weapons. Or is it a secret for you.

                Those. are you saying that when the US entered Iraq, they met fierce resistance??? that they survived there and fought for their own lives? They arrived stupidly and that’s it. they were greeted with flowers. Iran began sponsoring Iraq not long ago. Previously, Iran was generally neutral, and if you don’t know, it was at war with Iraq. And I believe that Iran’s sponsorship is a drop in the bucket compared to your beloved USA. And what is Iran compared to the USA, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Almost all of Western Europe, Great Britain, Israel and other sponsors???? so your comparison is meaningless!

                although I just noticed the checkbox next to your nickname. Either your identity is crooked, or you are a Jew. And I don’t even want to talk about Israel and its COMPLETE dependence on the states.
          2. 0
            26 May 2013 00: 17
            Quote: atalef
            , and the war in Afghanistan has had more successes, and many fewer casualties.

            There have been no successes, and if Russia supported the Taliban like the United States supported the dushmans, I’m afraid the result would be generally disastrous. And in terms of losses, they are mostly sitting on fortified bases, so there are fewer losses. Well, the equipment of the troops is not comparable to the 80s ! hi
            1. 0
              27 May 2013 14: 57
              no, there are successes: poppies are growing like poppy seeds, drugs are spreading around the world, the militants are trained and ready to attack anyone on command. it's just that their goals are radically different from those goals. which the BBC, CNN, etc. are shouting about.
          3. 0
            28 May 2013 19: 50
            Quote: atalef
            Well, list for me who the USSR/Russia fought with in the 20-21st century.

            The Third Reich was defeated, this is not Panama or Guatemala. Let's remember the 19th century, Russia fought against the whole world in the Crimean War.
        2. 0
          25 May 2013 19: 01
          The USA is cowards by nature. They will never go after the strong. They even entered world wars after they saw who was winning. We became allies to the strong. Whores, in short
      2. AlexW
        +4
        24 May 2013 21: 05
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: silver_roman
        Amers are cowards. They are afraid of both losing and getting involved in conflict.

        Well, well, poor student. Bring me a couple or five years. when the states weren't at war
        World War I (1914-1918)
        US Occupation of the Dominican Republic (1916-1924)
        World War II (1939-1945)
        Indochina war (1945-1954)
        Civil War in Paraguay (1947)
        The Korean War (1950-1953)
        The war in Vietnam (1957-1975)
        Guatemala Civil War (1960-1996)
        Operation in the Bay of Pigs (1961)
        Colombian Civil War (1964 — present)
        US Occupation of the Dominican Republic (1965-1966)
        Afghan War (1979 — 1989)
        U.S. Invasion of Grenada (1983)
        US Invasion of Panama (1989)
        1991 Gulf War
        1999 NATO war against Yugoslavia
        2001-present || War in Afghanistan (since 2001)

        And that's not all. because local conflicts are not included here.

        The Empire is "good", however. They forgot to include the last Iraqi one - it’s still unfinished. But Obama has already received the peace prize for it. wassat
        1. +2
          25 May 2013 12: 26
          Quote: AlexW
          The Empire is "good", however. They forgot to include the last Iraqi one - it’s still unfinished. But Obama has already received the peace prize for it.

          The question was about the combat effectiveness of Amerov’s army in response to the post

          Quote: silver_roman
          Amers are cowards. They are afraid of both losing and getting involved in conflict

          Therefore, let's not slide into demagoguery.
          The American army is currently the strongest and most combat-ready in the world with enormous experience in conducting both small and large military conflicts.
          1. 0
            25 May 2013 13: 22
            [quote=silver_roman]Amers are cowards. They are afraid of both losing and getting involved in conflict[/quote]
            Therefore, let's not slide into demagoguery.
            The American army is currently the strongest and most combat-ready in the world with enormous experience in conducting both small and large military conflicts.[/quote]

            With all my “love” for the Amers...I can only agree with you. Otherwise it will turn out like in 41... the Germans won’t dare, they are cowards... blah blah blah... we need to prepare and develop the army, and not shout that the potential enemy is a coward
            1. 0
              26 May 2013 01: 24
              I just meant that the United States will not attack an enemy (country) that is able to give at least some resistance. they will do everything to first destabilize the enemy from within, and when there is already a civil war in the country, they will fly in to introduce democracy.
              I don’t argue that the American army is the strongest
              1. -1
                26 May 2013 08: 13
                Quote: silver_roman
                I just meant that the United States will not attack an enemy (country) that is able to give at least some resistance.


                Iraq is certainly not an example for you. In general, the United States cannot attack on equal terms a priori, because they simply have no equal.
                I asked how long do you think the Russian army would take to roll out Iraq (of course, without the use of nuclear weapons)
                1. +1
                  27 May 2013 15: 09
                  you contradict yourself, haven’t you noticed this??? he said it himself. that they have no equal. andYou don’t understand what I mean with equals??? this is approximate equality, comparable damage in the event of war. RF, China.
                  Iraq....yeah, the strongest power that held on only thanks to oil and sadam (whether it was good or bad - let's leave it alone). Have you ever been interested in the US preparations for the invasion of Iraq??? just take an interest. you'll be surprised what they went to to get in there. More than 1 people were gathered, about 000 thousand tanks, an air force, a navy, and support for neighboring states with infrastructure. Bribery of the top military elite, when the Iraqi army was left essentially without command.

                  about the Russian Federation and Iraq: it’s hard to say. If we don’t take into account the guerrilla war, but pure military clashes between Iraq and the Russian Federation in the theater of operations, then I think we could have done it in half a year. Because we have an overwhelming advantage in the Air Force, satellite communications, reconnaissance, radio interference, etc. They would also bomb the plain from the air and that’s it. This is not Afghanistan with mountainous terrain. Iraq would simply respond to the attacks of the invader and that’s all. And if we talk about the planned attack, it was possible to follow in the Amer’s footsteps. First, try to undermine it economically.

                  And again6 I am not comparing the American army and ours. here, NO matter how strange it may be, I agree with you. Ours is weaker, but remember what the West did to make it so. And as long as there are nuclear weapons, and while no one is able to counteract them, we will correct our mistakes.
              2. +3
                27 May 2013 15: 26
                Quote: silver_roman
                I just meant that the United States will not attack an enemy (country) that is able to give at least some resistance. they will do everything to first destabilize the enemy from within, and when there is already a civil war in the country, they will fly in to introduce democracy.
                I agree very much. And this is evident from observations. They are unlikely to invade North Korea, although the region is very convenient for destabilizing our Asian territories, and there is oil there. There have been no wars or invasions on the territory of the United States, and that is why their fat people feel so at ease; when a couple of missiles fall on them, then the people’s attitude towards “freedom” and “democracy” will change a lot.
          2. 0
            25 May 2013 14: 17
            The American army is currently the strongest and most combat-ready in the world with enormous experience in conducting both small and large military conflicts.

            and no one argues with this. I noted this myself in my first post. It’s just that when a country fights for its sovereignty, its existence, then this is one thing, but when it fights for a master card, then it is completely different. comparing armies is not a rewarding task at all, but my personal subjective opinion is this: the Russian Federation exists only because our “overseas friend” is afraid of us and that’s all.
            1. 0
              25 May 2013 18: 53
              Let's list the victories of the most powerful and combat-ready US Army today, with colossal experience: Iraq (doubtful, they found someone to compare with), Afghanistan (failure), Libya (we'll see), Africa (shame). So where is the power???
            2. 0
              28 May 2013 20: 00
              Quote: silver_roman
              and no one argues with this. I noted this myself in my first post. It’s just that when a country fights for its sovereignty, its existence, then this is one thing, but when it fights for a master card, then it is completely different. comparing armies is not a rewarding task at all, but my personal subjective opinion is this: the Russian Federation exists only because our “overseas friend” is afraid of us and that’s all.

              He's still arguing! Yes, the US fleet is the most powerful, but the army is so-so. They simply don’t know how to win, they press with their masses. The amount of resources involved is amazing.
              - Blood is quietly dripping from the ax, dad killed one mosquito!
        2. -1
          27 May 2013 03: 43
          Stop arguing. Look what the Americans themselves say about their wars:

      3. -1
        25 May 2013 14: 11
        In your opinion, fighting means bombing the natives, and before that, the leader and his entourage were bribed, their spears were sawed off, and only then the gallant army invaded.

        From this list, which you probably dragged from Wikipedia, the amers only captured in 2 wars and that’s all. and these wars were in the early stages. Korea and Vietnam.
        In World War II, they probably died in less than ours in a week.

        In general, I don’t see the point in proving anything to you, because... your opinion symbolizes desperate naivety!
        1. -1
          25 May 2013 15: 50
          During the Second World War, America lost about half a million people...If you think that during the Great Patriotic War the USSR lost so much per week, then learn history...or simple arithmetic
          1. +1
            26 May 2013 01: 27
            The Americans lost about 300 people.
            the exact data is not clear.
            My comparison itself is exaggerated and there is no need to understand everything literally.
            like a country that has lost 300 - 000 people, and is trumpeting its victory over fascism... a little unfounded on their part. and the USSR - 500. so keep your advice to yourself. There are advisers...
            1. 0
              26 May 2013 08: 15
              Quote: silver_roman
              like a country that has lost 300 - 000 people, and is trumpeting its victory over fascism... a little unfounded on their part. and the USSR - 500. so keep your advice to yourself. There are advisers


              That’s what I’m talking about, there’s no need to slide into demagoguery.
          2. -1
            26 May 2013 08: 15
            Quote: il grand casino
            During the Second World War, America lost about half a million people...If you think that during the Great Patriotic War the USSR lost so much per week, then learn history...or simple arithmetic

            And during the Battle of Kulikovo, the United States was not even there laughing
      4. 0
        28 May 2013 19: 48
        Quote: atalef
        And that's not all. because local conflicts are not included here.

        Well, it’s clear that the children were beaten.
  97. 0
    24 May 2013 19: 02
    misham UA C
    The site's forum is descending into anti-Semitism.
    There is a civil war in Syria. Both sides are fighting for their homeland... The crisis in Syria is not caused by the West and Israel, but solely by internal problems.
    What is better for Israel and the United States: to have an authoritarian but predictable regime or Chechnya (from the time of Dudayev), Somalia or Afghanistan. There is no oil in Syria either...

    Let me disagree! Who started this civil war? Are they not “from the United States”, mercenaries?
    fighting for their homeland...
    for whose homeland? For $$, and fully equipped with military equipment and ammunition. And what, in Libya, too, a civil war happened by itself? Perhaps the people of Libya are “tired” of living in PARADISE, which no country in the world has known? And now they are “dead happy” with what they received. So in Russia SOME (we won’t name NATIONALITY) are trying to rekindle things again... So don’t turn it upside down!
  98. +1
    24 May 2013 19: 15
    Yes, Israel is really shaking for its own skin, Turkey is behaving like a prostitute, mattresses with razors are smoking their last cigarette on the sidelines. It looks like ours have seriously decided not to surrender their stronghold in Tartus.
  99. -2
    24 May 2013 19: 17
    Our answer to world Zionism!

    1. sashka
      +3
      24 May 2013 19: 44
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      Our answer to world Zionism!

      Yesterday I listened to “Farewell of the Slavyanka”, what a country they screwed up..
      1. Katsin
        +1
        25 May 2013 14: 35
        Tears prevent me from writing... What a power it was... They kept the whole world in fear... What a thrill it was... Once a month I went to Moscow for groceries, but the whole world was afraid, what else does a Russophile need?
        1. -1
          25 May 2013 18: 55
          Go to the doctor, buddy...he will help.
        2. 0
          25 May 2013 20: 10
          Quote: Katsin
          What kind of power was...

          It is, of course, because Solomon spoke unambiguously on the topic: Is a dead lion better than a living dog, or is a living dog better than a dead lion?
          That's just _ the lion is no longer dead - he is hiding and watching
          1. -2
            26 May 2013 08: 18
            Quote: Cynic
            A dead lion is better than a living dog

            Even monkeys fuck a decrepit lion.

            Quote: Cynic
            But the lion is no longer dead - he is hiding and watching

            when rape cannot be avoided, relax and try to have fun. (folk wisdom)
            1. +1
              26 May 2013 17: 36
              Quote: atalef
              folk wisdom

              No good deed goes unpunished.

              I present it at a level that is understandable to you.
              Judging by the content of your comments, an inferiority complex is not an empty phrase for you.
            2. Oleg Rosskiyy
              0
              27 May 2013 00: 14
              Quote: atalef
              when rape cannot be avoided, relax and try to have fun.

              At the same time, without losing composure and with your head held high, because this is necessary for the common cause of Israel. But not all nations share and support your Israeli instructions for use.
    2. sashka
      0
      24 May 2013 19: 53
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      Our answer to world Zionism!

      Why are you doing this? For what?
  100. sashka
    +1
    24 May 2013 19: 22
    What needs to happen will happen. And the great Pu is not an obstacle Unfortunately. We are simply looking for self-affirmation there.? If not what? Show how strong and cool we are? Maybe we will get involved in some story? Just show who to whom and gallop .. At least that way .. But in general, we just need to test the Weapon. After all, words are words. But what is it really like?
    1. +2
      25 May 2013 00: 00
      What is supposed to happen there? Assad is finishing off the next batch of exiles, he has enough fighters. Syria is a zone of our interests, so it will be according to Lavrov or not.