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Russian fleet returned to the Mediterranean with unexpected consequences

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Russian fleet returned to the Mediterranean with unexpected consequencesIsrael’s recent attacks on Syria, in particular, the use of destroyers of nuclear bunkers was a gift from the sky for Russians, and opened the door for the deployment of the defense of its long-time ally in Syria. The Russians have returned to the Mediterranean to stay, and this can be a good lesson for the recklessness of the western policy of slowly building up aggression in the region.


Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu released the cat from the bag, saying that the constant presence of naval forces is necessary to protect Russian interests in the region. For two years now, the world has been observing how rationally Russia is coping with the ongoing escalation there, supported by a growing number of external countries, which, in fact, have declared war on Syria, believing that this will be a risk-free business.

And that's what corporate media doesn't tell you. The doctrine of the preemptive strike of the Israelites and the neocons will be challenged. Netanyahu can say anything about the “red lines”, the intersection of which will cause a preventive “defense” strike, but in the opinion of your humble servant, the goals set themselves will adopt such a policy.

Sources in the US Navy can arbitrarily sneer at the "old" Russian ships, but there is nothing old in what they carry - they are the work of art rockets, which they have made the highest priority of their defense policy.

Part of cheating by corporate media has become история that the proposal of C-300 systems for the region destabilizes it. Anyone who is puzzled by studying Jane's documentation (it seems that IHS Jane's consulting and analytical company; note from mixednews.ru) from 1996, will find that they are already in Syria. Perhaps they were under the control of the Russians, and were not officially Syrian. But it would be worth asking these lazy media what then put an end to the Turkish provocations, knocking down their F-16, which was an empty waste of the unfortunate pilots in peacetime.

Yes, C-300 were there all the time, and until they beat Israel. But all this will have to change. Israel’s unpunished flights in Lebanese airspace and their possibility of air strikes without entering Syria’s airspace may be stopped, or they will be stopped when the Russians so decide.

Their fleet, even their old ships, will carry such art objects. weapons systems like the S-400, which will give pilots only 2-3 seconds after they hear a “beep-beep” signal that is approaching them at great speed. Russian patrol ships will be able to shoot down any attacking Israeli aircraft, including those that will return to base after the strike. They will be able to shoot them down even on takeoff.

Any Israeli retaliation will cause a full-scale Russian response, which can be aimed at their bases and command structures. Their updated Iskander missiles are said to have speeds in the range up to 6-7 Mach, but our sources say their speed is over 8 Mach. When evading missile fire, they can deviate with overload by more than 30 G, and dive to the target at an angle of 90 degrees. Israeli bullies have never stood up to modern weapons, but they may have a chance. And they will not like it.

The beauty of the above scenario is that it can be carried out in a strictly defensive framework, while confronting an Israeli attack.

Yes, and I forgot to mention that targeting can be carried out either via satellite or programmed into the rocket’s memory, so that radio suppression is not useful. These are not mortar shells from the backyards of the Gaza Strip, which the Israelis claim is such a deadly threat to them that they constantly carry out retaliatory measures punishing the population as a “deterrent”.

As for accuracy, the Iskander can destroy Patriot batteries on the very first day. And the next day, the Russians may surrender to the mercy of an international court on the grounds that, under international law, the answer was completely legal. And if this is not enough, their second defense may be the Bush doctrine of a preventive strike for defensive purposes ... to destroy not the future threat, but one that already signals its hostile intentions.

If any of you think that I am exaggerating this scenario, I kept this material from publication until I received confirmation from the Israelis. The headline in Israel Hayom from 19 May was as follows:

"Expect Israeli strikes on shipments of Russian arms supplies to Syria-Hezbollah ... the US authorities told the Wall Street Journal that the next round of Israeli air strikes could be aimed at new Russian shipments of modern anti-ship missiles Yakhont."

This was nothing more than preparing the ground for the ongoing aggressive attacks by the Israel Defense Forces in support of Syrian militants. Pay attention to the automatic linking of Syria and Hezbollah, as if they share weapons with each other, or the Russians will allow them to give weapons to someone else. Did the Israelis get permission from the US? Something like that. Obama said Israel has the right to defend itself, which means that others also have that right. But the conditions of the game change significantly when there is someone in the Middle East who has the ability to take a full-scale retaliatory strike, including nuclear weapons.

And I forgot to mention something about the destroyers of nuclear bunkers that the Israelis used in Damascus. The Russians, of course, also have them. Despite statements by Netanyahu that Israel is ready for any surprises, he is not ready for any of this. And if the Russians respond to the Israeli attack, believe me, the United States will not intercede.

The United States has enough problems because of the involvement of the region in such a danger by arming Israel to the teeth, which its population itself could never afford, and even would not, even if it could.

When Israel suffers from a palpable retaliatory strike after its aggressive attack, I can promise you that ordinary Israelis will instantly change their minds about the cocky chatter they acquired by attacking a weak or defenseless opponent.

In the long run, more than a few international civilian and military think tanks have long suspected that this is what should have happened in the end in order to neutralize Israel as a universal threat. They will attack the wrong ones at the wrong time.

No one in the American army willingly agrees to die for a bully-Israel, except possibly Christian Zionists in the Air Force. So the world would become a safer place if they disappeared.
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  1. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 24 May 2013 09: 18 New
    92
    Zionists on the count! Let them know their place.
    1. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 24 May 2013 09: 22 New
      36
      Sources in the US Navy can arbitrarily sneer at the "old" Russian ships, but there is nothing old in what they carry - they are the work of art rockets, which they have made the highest priority of their defense policy.

      These works of art quickly discourage the desire of these "sources" to mock Russian ships, making them cry over their own:


      MOSCOW, May 21 - RIA News. Russia will complete the supply of defensive weapons to Syria in strict accordance with the terms of the agreements previously concluded, Konstantin Biryulin, deputy head of the Russian Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSVTS), told RIA Novosti on Tuesday.


      The American newspaper The New York Times, citing representatives of the American authorities, previously reported that Russia allegedly sent a batch of new modification of anti-ship cruise missiles to Syria. Delivery dates are not specified in the article. Sources referring to secret intelligence reports say it’s Yakhont missiles with advanced guidance systems to destroy ships.


      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20130521/938516322.html#ixzz2UBVVqVmR
      1. Romn
        Romn 24 May 2013 10: 07 New
        69
        Utopian article, it’s very nice to read it of course, but ... It’s stupid to think that Russia will strike back at Israel, the Jewish diaspora too much has taken root in all our structures! And Russia will not take such a risk, starting an open aggression against a country with which they are trying so hard to establish good relations ... Therefore, our ships there are more likely to be restraining and possibly (I really hope so) they still brought several pieces of equipment like C-300, which Syria so needs now!
        As for the comments of Western wiseacres, about the condition of our ships, and indeed in general. So let these mutts yap, the lack of brains cannot be cured, and they can’t do anything else, they hysterically try to calm themselves, because nothing but rot in these people has long been left!
        1. zvereok
          zvereok 24 May 2013 10: 57 New
          13
          Now, an Israeli forum is discussing whether the bombing of Tartus will be an announcement of the Russian war.

          Here the question is something else - if the Israelis attack our fleet unexpectedly without declaring war and other conventions - it will be destroyed. You need to have the courage to shoot down planes in the airspace of Israel, but our sailors will not do this one-for-one.

          Then the way out is to send the ships unloaded, and keep the fleet at a considerable distance. And if the Israelis dare, then they’ll come near and destroy their airfields in the affected area and announce the no-fly zone. True, in this case, ships at the berths will die.
          1. Bashkaus
            Bashkaus 24 May 2013 12: 13 New
            55
            zvereok The funny thing is that in Jewish forums they discuss seriously attacking our ships in Tarutus or not. And at this time we are seriously discussing the Third World War, or we will simply be offended if we destroy Israel, Turkey and several other countries combined. As they say, feel the difference in scale)))
            1. RUSSIA 2013
              RUSSIA 2013 24 May 2013 14: 27 New
              34
              I believe that Israel has played it up, that it’s time to teach it a lesson, we have every right to retaliate if there is a threat of an air raid on Tartus, and the Jewish diaspora is not the United States, they live in Russia, and let them accept our rules, but Welcom doesn’t Israel we will not keep them.
              1. Sotnik77s
                Sotnik77s 24 May 2013 18: 42 New
                +5
                SOLAS TOTALLY !!!!!!!!!!!
              2. poquello
                poquello 24 May 2013 21: 17 New
                +1
                There is no need to teach anyone if they do not calm down selling Iran at a cost price of three cars of sniper rifles, hand-held anti-aircraft and anti-tank systems. Then I'll see how Israeli planes fly over Heban from Lebanon. Well, just in case, three expanders within the reach of the promised land, I think if enough is enough for total non-nuclear destruction.
              3. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 24 May 2013 23: 33 New
                +2
                “But we won’t keep Welcom in Israel” and who is so brave in our government to expel the Jewish diaspora?
                http://demotivation.me/h2p773452corpic.html#.UYzGjkrvvlc
                Yes, our Foreign Ministry, together with the vaunted Lavrovyv, was liquidated by the mosquito squeak of some Crimean Tatars:
                http://news.rambler.ru/19200047/
                And by the way, leaked his consul! Which, unlike his superiors, has not changed his words, here is a real man! Not like Lavrov!
                http://www.interfax.ru/russia/txt.asp?id=308664
                1. S_mirnov
                  S_mirnov 24 May 2013 23: 58 New
                  +1
                  "Vladimir Andreev announced his resignation, disagreeing with the statement of the Russian Foreign Ministry regarding his statements about the Crimean Tatars.

                  See the original material at http://www.interfax.ru/russia/txt.asp?id=308664
                  Remember him Vladimir Andreev - here is a seasoned human being!
              4. Nightmare12
                Nightmare12 25 May 2013 02: 50 New
                0
                And you know that Israel is a large and powerful state. If it weren’t, then it would be called Isea laughing
                1. vdenisov56
                  vdenisov56 30 May 2013 21: 29 New
                  0
                  So Israel is the Great Izzy. Even in the States they are afraid of it!
              5. Katsin
                Katsin 25 May 2013 08: 39 New
                -14
                But how do you teach a lesson and for what? If you really didn’t manage to deal with Chechnya, but Israel will be much more vigorous than Chechnya ...
                1. old man54
                  old man54 25 May 2013 14: 59 New
                  0
                  and oh, how do we verify that then? :)))))
                  1. il grand casino
                    il grand casino 25 May 2013 15: 02 New
                    0
                    Then the world will drown in the Nuclear War ... there will be joy for everyone.
                    1. old man54
                      old man54 26 May 2013 00: 40 New
                      0
                      Quote: il grand casino
                      Then the world will drown in the Nuclear War ... there will be joy for everyone.

                      or maybe it won’t! But here I would go to war with Isergil, I still have old accounts for them, according to my past incarnations here, even without money, for a bright future on Earth!
                      1. il grand casino
                        il grand casino 26 May 2013 10: 36 New
                        0
                        Duc, it hinders! You go, why drag others along?
                      2. old man54
                        old man54 26 May 2013 21: 28 New
                        0
                        and no one is pulling anyone, I personally said it for myself, and there everyone wants to!
              6. Cynic
                Cynic 25 May 2013 17: 49 New
                +1
                Quote: Katsin
                If you really didn’t manage to deal with Chechnya

                Do not confuse _ They could not and did not dare!
                Two agro differences.
                And with a showdown with Israel, not everything is clean. What kind of money goes through the UN humiliated and destitute and they voluntarily refuse them? And the crystal-clear officials of all stripes / all sides tied to this money?
              7. Vitali-46
                Vitali-46 28 May 2013 22: 15 New
                +2
                Listen dear !! You sit there at home and don’t scare !! The Chechen Republic is located on the territory of the RUSSIAN FEDERATION !! But Israel has nothing to do with the territory of Syria !!! You’ve touched Chechnya, and what you’re doing is with Palestine ??? And ??? First, learn the story, look at the maps, and then open your mouth !!! You are “heroes” when the amers support you, but sooner or later, everyone deserves their own merits !!
                1. Bopoh
                  Bopoh 31 May 2013 07: 07 New
                  0
                  Palestine exists on the same gkfytnt. as Hyperborea, Great Tartary and Atlantis. And also in the feverish delirium of varied junkers and idiots.
              8. Check
                Check 30 May 2013 12: 11 New
                0
                I ask you not to confuse, Chechnya is Russia, and they fought against the Wahhabis.
                and here the country is on the side. other weapons other targets.
          2. atalef
            atalef 24 May 2013 18: 14 New
            -5
            Quote: Bashkaus
            The funny thing is that in Jewish forums they discuss seriously attacking our ships in Tarutus or not. AND

            and you throw a link to these forums. interesting all the same.
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        2. atalef
          atalef 24 May 2013 18: 14 New
          -5
          Quote: zvereok
          Now, an Israeli forum is discussing whether the bombing of Tartus will be an announcement of the Russian war.

          reset the link to the forum.
          1. Zopuhhh
            Zopuhhh 24 May 2013 18: 55 New
            -5
            And here I agree with Jewish comrades ... Proof in the studio
            1. Hudo
              Hudo 24 May 2013 20: 54 New
              +9
              Is such a reference suitable?
              1. RUSSIA 2013
                RUSSIA 2013 25 May 2013 00: 29 New
                +4
                (civilian people of Israel) Palestine in occupation, the Golan Heights that belong to Syria, in occupation, we bomb as we want, complete depressions to neighbors with US support, and as it relates to you, no gentlemen, Jews don’t be behind you, Israel fell within a month, you’re talking about the Holocaust, but a trip, but your state’s policy Towards Palestine is not a Holocaust in the modern world. Syria’s call will cost Israel dearly, but we won’t surrender Syria, justice will prevail, but everything will be done to Israel early, will have to pay the bills.
                1. Bopoh
                  Bopoh 31 May 2013 07: 14 New
                  0
                  The primordial land of the Russians is the Principality of Moscow, in a larger sense, the Volga-Oksky corner.
                  Everywhere beyond these borders, Russians are occupiers. This has historically happened.
                  What are you snot dissolving? Or do you think that the Russian people originally lived from the Carpathians to Kamchatka and from the North Pole to India?

                  They treat you like invaders. And you treat everyone as occupiers.
                  There is no paradox and injustice.
                2. Mihail33
                  Mihail33 21 August 2013 19: 44 New
                  0
                  You are so illiterate, kotyara. You sit under the bench, and you still fight in March, scat.
                  1. Cynic
                    Cynic 21 August 2013 20: 15 New
                    0
                    Quote: Michael33
                    How illiterate you are ...

                    He is riding along the Estonian side road of a chaise, and an old Estonian dad and his two sons are sitting in it. Suddenly, in front of the horse's nose, something runs through and hides in the bushes. Estonians go on. After 15 minutes, the eldest son says: - Et-too was for ayats. Another 15 minutes pass. The youngest son says: - Nett, not good. Another half hour passes. Dad: - You still lose it, fussy Estonian on-pa-arnies ...

                    I hope everything is clear or how?
                    1. Mihail33
                      Mihail33 21 August 2013 20: 50 New
                      0
                      Well, where are we, ignoramuses.
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          2. zvereok
            zvereok 24 May 2013 21: 27 New
            +7
            Link where they discuss the blow to Tartus.

            http://www.waronline.org/fora/index.php?threads/%D0%A3%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%80-%D0%BF%
            D0%BE-%D0%A2%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%82%D1%83%D1%81%D1%83-%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%8A%D1%8F%D0%B2%
            D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5-%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D1%8B-%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%
            D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B8.2228/
            1. Rebus
              Rebus 24 May 2013 21: 46 New
              15
              Quote: zvereok
              Link where they discuss the blow to Tartus.
              .....................................


              In addition, I’ll give a few comments from the Jewish news site http://9tv.co.il (article "The Russian fleet patrols off the coast of Syria")
              we will soon drown17.05.2013 10:04
              each Putin ship has a large dashboard.

              Arthur, Haifa 17.05.2013/10/56 XNUMX:XNUMX PM
              The US 6th Fleet needs to establish an external blockade of Syria - and let Russia patrol itself for as long as you like. Block the channels of supply of Russian weapons, and deliver their own to the rebels by land. Fortunately, Syria does not have borders, but one name. And with ships, it happens, accidents happen - especially off the coast of a warring country ...

              IHIILL 17.05.2013 15:55
              IF NAKLY OCCUPIERS FROM RUSSIA HAVE OUR REGION, THEN THE USA AND ISRAEL WILL URGENTLY NEED TO OCCUPIATE THE CASPIAN SEA NEAR IRAN AND RUSSIA !!! And to the FRAMEWORK COMMANDER I WILL ANSWER THAT YOUR RUSSIA IS NOT THE EARTH OF THE EARTH !!! IF IT IS NECESSARY TO BE AND SHOULD THEM HOW TO SPIT !!!

              Comrade Saahov 18.05.2013/04/16 XNUMX:XNUMX
              It is necessary to hit and hit Russian ships with the Russian Yakhont missiles, and completely strangers would do this ... and .... not from our area.

              Russophobia in Israel is booming .....
            2. Jurkovs
              Jurkovs 25 May 2013 08: 08 New
              +3
              I noticed that the bulk of the comments ten days ago, after which the discussion died down. Most of all, I did not like Jewish humor (enthusiastic and politically correct on their part) about the blood of Christian-Muslim babies. If Holocaust denial is a criminal offense, then things must be punished as well. They gave the Jews an apartment, but they cannot establish relations with their neighbors in the landing.
          3. Bopoh
            Bopoh 31 May 2013 07: 08 New
            0
            But they shine and do not blush. From time immemorial, they have it.
        3. Masterzserg
          Masterzserg 24 May 2013 19: 39 New
          +4
          Quote: zvereok
          Here the question is something else - if the Israelis attack our fleet unexpectedly without declaring war or other conventions - it will be destroyed.

          Not, Moses are too smart to get into such an adventure, and not Israel’s enemy to us, in the sense that one nuclear missile that flies will wipe this tiny country off the face of the earth. Israel is not in NATO, so despite their highly equipped army, they won’t go for a provocation, I think so.
          1. Katsin
            Katsin 25 May 2013 08: 48 New
            -10
            You are right that we will never attack Russian ships. Your fantasies about a Russian nuclear strike against Israel are also completely groundless. With such a strike, we will have a couple of submarines with nuclear missiles on the move, do you need it? So relax, there will be no war between Israel and Russia. The war between Israel and Russian-armed Islamofascists of all stripes is much more real
            1. Siberian German
              Siberian German 26 May 2013 08: 34 New
              +7
              yes sho you say Islamofascism is a good idea - but hello Zionofascism would be nice to fight with it too
              1. Masterzserg
                Masterzserg 27 May 2013 06: 51 New
                +7
                About fascism. After all, the Jews got what they themselves came up with. Goi, goi, and then broads! and Mr. Hitler brought them karma in his hands, eat with full dear Jews. Carried for a long time ... But so do not forget that everything you do, comrades Jews, the next Hitler carries you in return, wait, it seems to me that he is already on the way))))
                1. old man54
                  old man54 27 May 2013 18: 23 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Masterzserg
                  But so do not forget that everything you do, comrades Jews, the next Hitler carries you in return, wait, it seems to me that he is already on the way))))

                  Comment "+"! I also believe that "every cat scratches and its own hobs!" And patience, even the great Russian patience, too, will come to an end, sooner or later1 It is strange to me that the Zionists do not understand this. :(
            2. Masterzserg
              Masterzserg 27 May 2013 06: 42 New
              +3
              Quote: Katsin
              Your fantasies about a Russian nuclear strike against Israel are also completely groundless. With such a strike, we will have a couple of submarines with nuclear missiles on the move, you need it

              Yes, which submarines)))) The country is wiped off the face of the earth, which means there will be no salary, but your patriotism is equal to the number of benefits, you run with these boats for auction, sell as a submarine of a defunct country laughing
          2. Bopoh
            Bopoh 31 May 2013 07: 18 New
            0
            The Moiseichs will better supply the Eisel-Vasisuals with carrots and potatoes. And the troughs, proudly referred to as the fleet, with God's help, will themselves be covered with copper basins. Precedents are available.
        4. Jurkovs
          Jurkovs 25 May 2013 07: 48 New
          +1
          It is not necessary to keep the entire fleet in a pile. If Israel strikes at one ship in Tartus, then the rest of the ships can strike at Israeli airfields. I wonder what is called the naval modification of Iskander?
          1. Do not care
            Do not care 26 May 2013 17: 32 New
            0
            LORA

            Manufacturer Israel Aerospace Industries
            Specifications
            Weight 1.6-1.8 tons
            Length 5 meters
            Diameter 610 mm
            Warhead 570 kg warhead
            Operational
            range 250-300 km
            Flight altitude 150,000 ft
            Guidance
            system GPS and TV terminal
            LORA (Acronym for LOng Range Attack) is a theater quasiballistic missile produced in Israel.

            It has a range of 250 kilometers (160 mi) and a CEP of 10 meters (33 ft) when using a combination of GPS and TV for terminal guidance.

            It can be ship-launched and land-launched.
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        1. Romn
          Romn 24 May 2013 12: 18 New
          19
          With regards to riots, you can’t go far behind textbooks, if you look at our opposition if we look at the current one on national grounds, then for some reason most of it is again from sunny Israel!
          1. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 24 May 2013 14: 26 New
            +9
            So they always carried the troubles to Russia, and now they’re in power at all! How long will we tolerate them, on the smug mendel on TV, it's already disgusting to look, so tired !!!
            1. Sotnik77s
              Sotnik77s 24 May 2013 18: 45 New
              +2
              OH HOW YOU ARE RIGHT, TIRED SIMPLY BEFORE THE BURNING !!!!!!!
          2. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 24 May 2013 19: 35 New
            +2
            Quote: Romn
            if you look at our opposition if we look at the present on nat grounds, then for some reason most of it is again from sunny Israel
            Yes, it's just clowns, the real opposition is waiting in the wings and does not twitch.
            1. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 27 May 2013 12: 48 New
              +1
              And the real opposition is who? This is the one against the Jews in the government!? If so, then it's time to go free, I think the people will be "FOR" !!!
          3. Nightmare12
            Nightmare12 25 May 2013 03: 00 New
            +4
            And I thought that alone I think so. Each time they are shown mentally I tell them: SUITCASE STATION ISRAEL SU KI wassat
            1. Katsin
              Katsin 25 May 2013 08: 50 New
              -4
              As a Jew and Zionist, I absolutely agree with your first 3 words
        2. Atlon
          Atlon 24 May 2013 13: 35 New
          20
          Quote: Bashkaus
          We do not stand still in Russia, there were already Jewish riots in former times (see the history textbook).

          I think some people forgot about the pogroms ... Someone relaxed, milked the whole world, sheared coupons from the invented Holocaust, and completely lost the ability to really assess the situation ... The world has certainly changed. He became tolerant. But, I assure you, if some people rock the boat, this last drop will fill the cup of patience, and some will remember the pogroms. Moreover, in the most cruel and merciless manifestations.
          1. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 24 May 2013 14: 29 New
            +5
            Yes, I recall: Do not wake it up while it is quiet .... But they apparently either forgot or do not know this proverb ...
          2. Bashkaus
            Bashkaus 24 May 2013 18: 13 New
            +3
            My comment has been deleted! But truths cannot be removed))) All the same, people have already snapped it into quotes!
            True, she is just such as not hiding behind political correctness, etc. and people can’t be fooled.
          3. scrack
            scrack 24 May 2013 21: 45 New
            +1
            As there were bloody pogroms in Kiev and Zhytomyr in due time
          4. Jurkovs
            Jurkovs 25 May 2013 08: 14 New
            0
            Before World War II, they also spoke with might and main about the United States of Europe, and ended in concentration camps. And the first pogroms must be sought not in history books, but in the annals (somewhere around the beginning of the 10th century).
          5. Genur
            Genur 27 May 2013 18: 26 New
            +3
            I think. that the main mistake of the Jews is that they consider themselves smarter than others.
        3. Tylerdurden
          Tylerdurden 24 May 2013 14: 32 New
          0
          bashkaus, hi. put +. A little more detail, please, about x55
          1. Bashkaus
            Bashkaus 24 May 2013 18: 33 New
            19
            Thank you, but unfortunately my comment was deleted. Who is not in the subject, I just recalled that in the history of civilizations one "small but very proud bird" for some reason all oppress ((
            And then he expressed the opinion that in the case of aggressive actions against Syria, Russia can afford to carry out the operation “forcing peace (insert the necessary version)” reasonably referring to the precedent of 2008. And to criticisms that Country “A” and country “B” have good military potential, I replied that everything would happen again as in 2008, but on a slightly larger scale. because we have so many rusty tanks and missiles X55.
            I also said that Uncle Vova will culturally explain to Uncle Barak that he is wrong and the best thing for him is to smoke on the sidelines and wait until country “A” and country “B” have received 33 pleasures, so that he could not let them go talk and morally support.
            And on the account of Europe, I said that in this case no one wakes up to talk to her at all, because she has the status of a “gay man in a Russian prison”
            PS those who then paid my comment (and when I went to work there were about 20 people) correct me if I made a mistake in retelling somewhere))))
            1. atalef
              atalef 24 May 2013 18: 40 New
              -3
              Quote: Bashkaus
              The funny thing is that in Jewish forums they discuss seriously attacking our ships in Tarutus or not.

              Sergey, you’re better not a minuscule sculpt. and then drop the reference all the same. Or are you trembling again, as always?
              1. Bashkaus
                Bashkaus 24 May 2013 19: 02 New
                +2
                minus sculpt to no purpose.
                And you again tore everything out of context!
                My comment you quoted was originally my response to the comment of another person, zvereok, who actually said that the forums in one country are seriously discussing a strike on Russian ships performing shipment. I believed him (and don’t dare to blame me, you’re glad to be on the news of the Air Force and SII).
                Here with zvereok and ask,
                If zvereok says "guys I was joking," then I will publicly apologize and say, "Guys, I'm sorry, the garbage came out, was seduced by the divorce zvereok"
                So do not touch me before the exposure, and I’ll ask zvereok to give us all this reference, since such a thing has gone)))
                1. atalef
                  atalef 24 May 2013 19: 14 New
                  -6
                  Quote: Bashkaus
                  My comment you quoted was originally my response to the comment of another person, zvereok, who actually said that the forums of one country are seriously discussing a strike on Russian ships performing shipment. I believed him

                  Some forums seriously discuss whether zvereok is a latent homosexual. Trust me and you can even refer to me. After zvereok resets the link, I also promise to reset the link.
                  1. zvereok
                    zvereok 24 May 2013 21: 31 New
                    +9
                    atalef

                    I provided the link, it turns out you are a latent homosexual.

                    By the way, how do your brothers in Judea look at this?
              2. SASCHAmIXEEW
                SASCHAmIXEEW 27 May 2013 12: 56 New
                +1
                Are you talking about Jewish forums seriously? They definitely have something with their heads! Do not wake famously, while quietly forgot about the Russian proverb? Jew Shabber in the forehead, am I not?
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      3. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 24 May 2013 12: 13 New
        +7
        Quote: Romn
        Utopian article, it’s very nice to read it of course, but ... It’s foolish to think that Russia will strike back at Israel, the Jewish diaspora too much has taken root in all our structures!


        Why are you ... what then is Moscow on the Syrian side?

        It is foolish to think that the Russian Federation will stick with aggressors. Bear you can ask.
        1. sergo0000
          sergo0000 24 May 2013 13: 17 New
          +9
          Quote: Geisenberg
          Quote: Romn
          Utopian article, it’s very nice to read it of course, but ... It’s foolish to think that Russia will strike back at Israel, the Jewish diaspora too much has taken root in all our structures!


          Why are you ... what then is Moscow on the Syrian side?

          It is foolish to think that the Russian Federation will stick with aggressors. Bear you can ask.

          If Romm asks Mishiko, then he will not have enough ties from such memories in the wardrobe! bully
      4. Atlon
        Atlon 24 May 2013 13: 30 New
        19
        Quote: Romn
        Utopian article, very nice to read it of course,

        Oh? wink
        Meanwhile ...
        - Street riots continue in Stockholm. The situation got out of control of the authorities. Over a hundred cars were burned, police stations and schools were destroyed.

        -In England, a soldier was DEMONSTRATELY executed yesterday. Muslim blacks in broad daylight first hit him with a car, and then using cleaver and machetes, they chopped it into minced meat, in front of the stunned passers-by. At the same time, they did not hide, asked passersby to take them on cameras, and talked about revenge for the wars that Britain is waging. British soldiers are FORBIDDEN to appear on the street in uniform!

        Yesterday, when I listened to the news, I could not restrain myself and gloated ... I remember how our military command forbade walking in uniform in the national republics. The West gets back what it tried to feed us. So, what seems fantastic today will be quite mundane tomorrow ...
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 24 May 2013 15: 49 New
          +5
          Rollback from tolerance. And this is still only the beginning.
          1. Onotollah
            Onotollah 24 May 2013 17: 30 New
            +3
            Quote: Mikhail3
            Recoil

            Something tells me that this pullback will be washed with blood. And very plentiful.
            The Spaniards conquered their lands from the Moors for about 700 years. I wonder how much a similar process will go on under the current conditions.
      5. DmitriRazumov
        DmitriRazumov 24 May 2013 17: 00 New
        +2
        Quote: Romn
        And Russia will not take such a risk, starting an open aggression against a country with which they are trying so hard to establish good relations ...

        To a greater extent, Israel seeks to establish relations with the Russian Federation. Their special services are lobbying for the sale of security systems manufactured on the promised land through their Russian colleagues and much more ... Our economics. interests in Israel are much more modest.
        1. Jurkovs
          Jurkovs 25 May 2013 08: 20 New
          0
          Part of the Jewish elite began to look for a second strategic shoulder in the person of Russia, but it is very far from consensus. Moreover, conservatives can just provoke a clash with Russia so that the oncoming movement does not occur.
      6. Shtyn dwarf
        Shtyn dwarf 24 May 2013 18: 27 New
        +3
        It all depends on Israel; everything has a red line
      7. Arthur Garipov
        Arthur Garipov 24 May 2013 23: 20 New
        -6
        I agree. To strike back at Israel, one fleet is not enough. Moreover, those who betrayed Libya will most likely betray Syria. Israel will strike, and Lavrov will only be indignant, will make sour facial expressions.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 28 May 2013 18: 01 New
          0
          Quote: Arthur Garipov
          Moreover, those who betrayed Libya will most likely betray Syria

          And we know who this traitor is Sarkozy, and France in his person! They, with the allies, are now betraying Syria.
      8. Jurkovs
        Jurkovs 25 May 2013 07: 44 New
        +1
        You do not find that the geopolitical position of Russia today is in a similar state, as before the deployment of missiles in Cuba. There are only two choices: the first to surrender Syria and surrender ourselves, watching how a wave of destabilization spreads to the Middle East and Kazakhstan, and the second choice, take the risk of another nuclear missile crisis and remove all geopolitical problems in the future.
      9. ioann1
        ioann1 27 May 2013 14: 16 New
        0
        Even if the Zionists will torture you (unless, of course, you are not one of them), then you will smile sweetly wink You are a diplomat! As for the Western wiseacres, what’s wrong here ... You read poorly, he warns both the West and Israel from an undesirable military conflict with Syria and, accordingly, with Russia! And the fact that in the event of a repeat of such an attack by the Israelis, Syria, read Russia, will strike back. But small-town Jews (it sounds strange - the Jewish diaspora) do not represent anything here. Another level!
      10. Su24
        Su24 29 May 2013 12: 41 New
        0
        I liked the article, I’m proud for the power)) But we must understand that for an effective retaliatory strike against Israel, of course, a massive use of modern missiles is necessary, and we deliver very little to Syria.
        Although it’s interesting, you can just convert the usual mediocre container ships under the platform for the P-800, S-300 and S-400, for Iskander launches. Several of these ships, under the protection and control of a normal squadron of warships, would be a serious force.
      11. dmitrich
        dmitrich 6 June 2013 11: 15 New
        0
        you didn’t carefully read the article, a strike on Israel after its attack on our ships.
    2. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel 24 May 2013 11: 46 New
      20
      When you get a kickar in the ass, then somehow you don’t think, in a old or new slipper, the kickar arrived. Anti-ship missiles and camels can be delivered to the position. When it arrives, then even a thought will not appear on which it was brought.
  2. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia 24 May 2013 09: 35 New
    14
    Quote: Scandinavian
    Zionists on the count! Let them know their place.



    The Criminal Course of Zionism, 1971 (10:10)




    Annotation: The film in an acute journalistic form reveals the face of international Zionism.

    Film description: Anti-Soviet demonstrations in the United States, a pogrom in the premises of Aeroflot, perpetrated by members of the Zionist organization in New York. A sitting demonstration of members of the Zionist organization in the Intourist building in London in support of the Jews of the Soviet Union. International Conference in Brussels. Meeting of US President R. Nixon with Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Dayan. The film uses newsreels of the Israeli army in the Arab territories. Type of destruction in the territory of the Arab countries, subjected to aggression. The expulsion of Arabs from their territories. View of the tent camp of the Palestinians. Israeli construction of fortifications and strategic facilities in the Sinai desert. Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir bypasses the troops. General view of the Suez Canal. A rally in the Soviet Union in support of Arab countries fighting Israeli aggression.


    LOOK:
    http://dic.academic.ru/film.nsf/7048/Criminal+Course+of+Zionism.
    1. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 24 May 2013 09: 56 New
      30
      Their fleet, even their old ships, will carry such artifact weapon systems as the S-400, which will give pilots only 2-3 seconds after they hear a “beep-beep” signal that is approaching them on a huge speed. Russian patrol ships will be able to shoot down any attacking Israeli aircraft, including those that will return to base after the strike. They will be able to shoot them down even on takeoff))).
      Not an article - a song! Put article bold plus. Beep-beep and ... ec)).
      1. Armata
        Armata 24 May 2013 10: 22 New
        17
        Quote: Ruslan_F38
        Their fleet, even their old ships, will carry such artifact weapon systems as the C-400,
        Which ship are the 400 on?
        Quote: Ruslan_F38
        Russian patrol ships will be able to shoot down any attacking Israeli aircraft, including those that will return to bases after the strike. They will be able to shoot them down even on takeoff))).
        Dreams Dreams.
        1. Bashkaus
          Bashkaus 24 May 2013 11: 07 New
          11
          Which ship are the 400 on? There is a saying, fear has great eyes. We still don’t have four hundred in the fleet, and they are already writing a cap on their knees.
          1. Vanek
            Vanek 24 May 2013 11: 11 New
            +3
            Quote: Bashkaus
            and they are already a cap


            Is this good or bad? It’s better to overestimate than underestimate.

            Well, I think so.
          2. Black Colonel
            Black Colonel 24 May 2013 13: 58 New
            +1
            Well, let them catch their own fear. Useful
        2. sanych
          sanych 24 May 2013 11: 11 New
          +7
          Yes ... The transatlantic scribbler clearly went too far, praising our weapons. In addition to the S-400 on our ships, the Isander also has a speed of 8! Makhov painted! This is what happens, hypersound has already been achieved !? Expert, damn it fool Although, we have enough of these “military analysts”. Russia, then, is a wild and backward country, but Western crap ... they are YES! STRENGTH! fool Reading is funny! An entertaining article, but no more !!!
          1. Prishtina
            Prishtina 24 May 2013 13: 45 New
            +3
            speed at OTR Iskander _ 2100m / s (open sources!) .. sound speed ~ 300m / s. Next, consider yourself .. smile
        3. Ascetic
          Ascetic 24 May 2013 11: 55 New
          30
          Quote: Mechanic
          Which ship are the 400 on?


          This is probably about the marine version of the S-400 "Fortress". And they plan it for destroyers that are going to lay as much in 2016. The armament is as follows: UKSK-32 (32 missiles of the 3M55, 3M54T, 3M54T1, 3M14, 91R, 91RT2 types, in the future Zircon), S-400 air defense systems "Fortress" (32 SAM 48N6E3, 40N6 in the future), Redut air defense systems ( 32 SAM 9M96E or 9M96E2, or 128 SAM 9M100), 2 ZRAK Broadsword, AU 130-mm A-192, 2 57-mm AU A-220M, 2 PTK "Package", 2 14,5 mm machine guns, 2 DP-64 and 2 helicopters Ka-27PL / Ka-27M, radar with AFAR Polyment.
          And the article is a clear provocation, recently they want to drag Russia into the war with anyone - Turkey, Israel, even China. We still have enough other methods of pressure and they are far from exhausted. It’s like playing the flip-flop game, forcing the opponent to immediately go with the trump cards so that at the end of the game they leave with his nose.
          There was an article about a promising destroyer at VO here
          1. Armata
            Armata 24 May 2013 12: 56 New
            -6
            Quote: Ascetic
            This is probably about the marine version of the C-400 "Fortress". And they plan it for destroyers who are going to lay as much in 2016.
            Stanislav will not be the destroyer project by 16 year. In order for it to appear, you must first cut the budget for improvements, and it will be sawed for a long time.
            1. Ascetic
              Ascetic 24 May 2013 13: 31 New
              +4
              Quote: Mechanic
              Stanislav will not be the destroyer project by 16 year. In order for it to appear, you must first cut the budget for improvements, and it will be sawed for a long time.


              But what about project 21956? What is his fate? This year, his bookmark was planned. In the medium term (15-20 years), it is planned to build 14-16 ships. At least it was planned to place medium-range and long-range air defense systems of about 80-130 pieces there. (True, S-300 but you can just as well stick the same "Fortress" when it is brought to mind). The sketch of the ship was presented back in 2007. Or is it just talk?
              1. Armata
                Armata 24 May 2013 20: 13 New
                +3
                Quote: Ascetic
                But what about the 21956 project? What is his fate? This year, his bookmark was planned. In the medium term (15-20 years) it is planned to build 14-16 ships.
                First you need to finish the project, and I already wrote that no one will finish the project without money.
            2. Egor.nic
              Egor.nic 24 May 2013 15: 43 New
              +3
              Do not be pessimistic, look wider.
              At your glance, we are still drinking cabbage soup ....
              Not everything is as bad as it seems.
          2. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 24 May 2013 19: 47 New
            -2
            Quote: Ascetic

            And the article is a clear provocation, recently they want to drag Russia into the war with anyone - Turkey, Israel, even China.
            For a long time I did not respond to your posts, but here I am forced to take off my hat. Of course a provocation. But this is not the main thing. Is it a shame for people who pump muscle in front of Israel to write this? Theoretically, it will be like a “muhacha” fight with a “heavyweight”. They also found me in front of whom to cheek.
            1. aksakal
              aksakal 24 May 2013 21: 18 New
              11
              Quote: Aaron Zawi
              Theoretically, it will be like a fight between “Muhach” and “heavyweight”. They also found me in front of whom to cheek.
              - Aaron Zawi, of course, partly you are right, because of course the different weight categories are somehow even embarrassing, but the question is that the heavyweight cannot be deliberately ignored and his interests also cannot be put in anything, because even the most hectic "heavy "has nerves and endless patience. Why so impudently pull the bear by the paws? The request is simple - leave Syria alone, let it deal with its own troubles, and choose itself a leader in fair elections, which the Syrian authorities themselves will go to, and Russia will agree. That's all! Simple, unpretentious and EASY! So no, they do everything to make them lose their temper, and then - "and not be ashamed? So big and healthy, but use force so much!" You do not need to do nasty things - and all the nonsense
              1. SASCHAmIXEEW
                SASCHAmIXEEW 27 May 2013 13: 11 New
                +1
                AKSAKALU And maybe enough to play with them in little spools? When they don’t understand the good things, they beat me in the face ...
              2. Mihail33
                Mihail33 21 August 2013 20: 46 New
                0
                But who needs this Syria. Israel is against getting weapons to its sworn enemy, Hezbollah. Since I do not read posts, everyone modestly keeps silent about this issue. Like at the government level in Russia and in forums who have hands in itch. What Israeli strikes on Russian ships they mutter here, patients with a clouding in the head. You need to be treated in the psychiatric hospital where you escaped from.
                Israel always talks about not hitting a heavy weapon with Hezbollah. Why Russia does not respond to attempts by Syria and Iran to transfer this program.
                And on the issue of the so-called failure of Israel, the last military company in Lebanon, sweetly rubbish in the internet, we can say. Israel has achieved calm on the northern border. Hizbal has been sitting quietly and the leader has been sitting in the bunker for many years and squeals from there. He knows how to help Jordan will not help him a second time. Lebanon knows where hezbahl can be pulled by his threats to Israel
                And Shiites with the Alawites, let them understand Syria. Israel does not support either one or the other.
                1. olegenda
                  olegenda 11 September 2013 19: 32 New
                  0
                  totally agree
            2. reichsmarshal
              reichsmarshal 24 May 2013 22: 33 New
              -4
              Only now, compared to the Russian Army, the IDF is just the same "heavyweight". Ours in Syria do not have a single AWACS and no RVV-AE missiles (against Israeli AMRAAM), pilots fly 120 hours a year (in Hel Haavir - 300 hours a year). There is nothing to catch on land either: the old T-72 Merkava-IV cannot be opposed. The fleet is not strong either - the Turkish Arly-Burke, if not destroyed, will remove it from the game. The IDF, without jokes, is much stronger than the NATO armies, and certainly not Georgia. So, it would be better if the Jewish guys left Assad alone and didn’t sin already with the Russians, otherwise it would not BEGIN (something out of the ordinary ..., and for all at once). It’s easy to set fire to gasoline (in 1967 it was already set on fire in just six days) - go put out!
            3. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 27 May 2013 13: 08 New
              +1
              Then you should keep your planes on a leash and not provoke a heavyweight. And nobody cheats, one rocket is enough to cover the Jews with a copper basin!
        4. aksakal
          aksakal 24 May 2013 21: 08 New
          0
          Quote: Mechanic
          Dreams Dreams.

          - It is interesting that the most skeptics are those WHO DIRECTLY CREATE MILITARY EQUIPMENT. laughing What is VAF (aviation), what is Mechanic. All this is strange what
          I can only assume one thing - they know for sure what they are creating laughing And this knowledge does not add optimism to them at all. But to the question - why, then, they create such that they themselves are inspired by skepticism - there will definitely not be an answer laughing Also offended.
          I went drinks drink, and the first toast will be - whatever, WHO DIRECTLY CREATES MILITARY EQUIPMENT - have finally become optimistic smile
          1. Armata
            Armata 24 May 2013 21: 39 New
            +4
            Quote: aksakal
            It is interesting that the most skeptics are those WHO DIRECTLY CREATE MILITARY EQUIPMENT.
            Dear, it’s not a matter of technology. She is excellent in Russia. The point is disappointment in the system, but struggling with it is not a technique to do.
            1. aksakal
              aksakal 24 May 2013 22: 01 New
              +2
              Quote: Mechanic
              She is excellent in Russia

              - glad to hear that. Finally, at least from the pros I heard praise for Russian technology. I'll go again, I will snore for it drinks
              And as for the system, where can you find a good one? If you really quite objectively approach and evaluate the system of the States, Germany and others, everywhere your cockroaches. And in Russia, not the largest.
              I have a feeling that the denouement is approaching. As in the film - there is a plot development law. The prologue (background), the development of the conflict, the conflict itself (apogee) and the ending.
              In the United States, the incomprehensible Boston terrorist attack, while all the FBI men who worked in key areas of the investigation on this terrorist attack, are killed. In Russia, Medvedev’s right-wingers, Dvorkovich, have frankly neglected ordinary FSO workers ... Yes, this isn’t a system - everything goes different, that is getting ready. Boston is somehow great on the burning of the Reichstag looks like in the 30s of the last century. And you are a system laughing
              1. Armata
                Armata 24 May 2013 23: 11 New
                +3
                Quote: aksakal
                And as for the system, where can you find a good one?
                In this regard, a clear planning system of the USSR looks very profitable. In 1980, UVZ produced 200 tanks a month and also made civilian products; now they cannot even make 50 a month. So you start to think.
  3. yak69
    yak69 24 May 2013 10: 01 New
    +8
    Quote: Scandinavian
    Zionists on the count! Let them know their place.

    It's time, everyone has been waiting!
    And not only them. On good, it is necessary to put the entire geyropu there, the more so since they have been scratching their dupa for a long time, they do not know who else to substitute it for, so they could blow it. So, let them be built in line - we will plant them one at a time, slowly, so that the pleasure becomes unforgettable. laughing
    1. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus 24 May 2013 11: 11 New
      +8
      Just the same it is necessary for a dry, rough and without the right to merge in the future, so that even thoughts would no longer be repeated. In the 40s we didn’t get them, and now disentangle.
      1. edge
        edge 24 May 2013 12: 23 New
        0
        Quote: Bashkaus
        Just the same it is necessary for a dry, rough and without the right to merge in the future, so that even thoughts would no longer be repeated. In the 40s, we missed them

        miserable how much you don’t get into the snout; you need to create conditions for migration and re-educate here (in the north we have enough places for development)
  4. de klermon
    de klermon 24 May 2013 19: 14 New
    +2
    Given that Sodom sin was not invented in Ryazan, it is hardly necessary to count: some of them, from the Zionists, will be able to get pleasure! Yes, and somehow it does not sound tolerant ... You offer some kind of modern method! I suggest hard labor, well, or as they call it now - community service, on the analysis of rubble, somewhere in the vicinity of Damascus!)))
  5. S_mirnov
    S_mirnov 24 May 2013 23: 08 New
    +2
    "Zionists at stake! Let them know their place." - so they will like it there! And then is it possible to start with the Russian Zionists?
    http://demotivation.me/h2p773452corpic.html#.UYzGjkrvvlc
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 27 May 2013 13: 23 New
      0
      First of all, from them .. Too much has been divorced both in power and in the oligarchy !!!! All the troubles of RUSSIA from them !!! Drive after the trial and imprisonment in the "promised land" !!! To cleanse the Russian land from them completely !!!! Let them live where they want, but not with us !!! I am sure all Russians will vote for it !!!!!
  6. APASUS
    APASUS 24 May 2013 23: 17 New
    +1
    Quote: Scandinavian
    Zionists on the count! Let them know their place.

    Kindergarten, by golly! It means war!
  7. faraon
    faraon 28 May 2013 13: 46 New
    -1
    Yes, it’s actually not the Zionists. The thing is suddenly remember Damascus managed to suppress all radio electronics. calmly otbambitsya and leave. so now they will do it. Progress does not stand still. And in Russia I would not advise to put your nose into Middle Eastern affairs. For Israel it would be better if there were Assad and not a gang of Fanatics. And the fact that it bombes caravans with Hezbollah’s Russian weapons are the same as Alkaeda’s struggle against terror.
    1. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 28 May 2013 18: 47 New
      +1
      Leave your advice to yourself, have occupied someone else's land, and even give out the advice, the insolent Israeli.
    2. Cynic
      Cynic 28 May 2013 20: 28 New
      0
      Quote: faraon
      And I would not advise Russia to stick its nose into Middle Eastern affairs.

      Remembered
      Hornless peppy horn cow
      The blacksmith forged from metal.
      And so - she butted the enemy,
      Become a veal protector?

      Not at all. The uninitiated enemy is alive and well,
      Feeling he considers fable:
      He knows a herd of horned cows
      Flocks of sheep are not more dangerous.

      The cow is strong and strict as before
      But here is the paradox: for some reason
      As soon as the cow got the horns
      Butting was gone hunting.
      wink
    3. svp67
      svp67 28 May 2013 20: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: faraon
      And I would not advise Russia to stick its nose into Middle Eastern affairs.
      Well, I’ll advise you not to stick your nose into the affairs of Russia, otherwise she’s a darling, she can turn inaccurately and “smear” all such “good-natured things” into a “thin sheet”
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 28 May 2013 20: 48 New
        0
        Quote: svp67
        otherwise she’s a darling, she can turn inaccurately

        And then
        epic hero, went to fight for justice with a three-headed snake.
        After a long search, the hero discovered a large mountain, and in it a cave. He got up at the entrance to the cave and let's shout:
        - Zmey Gorynych! Come out, we will fight!
        Screaming, screaming, no answer.
        Suddenly, from somewhere on the side - a huge head
        - Well, fight like that! But why yell in the ass?

    4. mihasik
      mihasik 30 May 2013 21: 01 New
      0
      In 2008, you armed the Georgians too for the fight against terror ?! When they shot women and children? !!! When they killed our peacekeepers? !!! You climbed into the Caucasus, and now what are you advising us to ?! Say thank you for the snot! Well, now wait for the answer from Hezbola!)))
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  • patline
    patline 24 May 2013 09: 18 New
    +7
    artwork rockets

    Well said))) And the whole article is not bad.
    1. Scoun
      Scoun 24 May 2013 09: 36 New
      +2
      Quote: patline
      Well said

      So good that thoughtfully scratching my head.
      Their updated Iskander missiles are said to be have a speed in the range of Mach 6-7, but our sources say that their speed is over Mach 8.

      If this is true ...... then just cool twist.
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 24 May 2013 12: 47 New
        +5
        Quote: Scoun
        If this is true ...... then just cool twist.


        If we talk about the 9M723 rocket and its modifications, then its flight speed in the atmosphere is 2100 m / s, and in the vicinity of the surface 700-800 m / s. About the vertical angle of diving and overload in 20-30G this is true. If you measure speed using the Mach number, then you should probably consider that in the Earth’s atmosphere at altitudes of 10-25 km it is equal to 295 m / s or 1060 km / h. At the surface of the earth at a temperature of 15ºС, the speed of sound is 340 m / s or 1220 km / h. Here and count.
        1. bulgurkhan
          bulgurkhan 24 May 2013 13: 01 New
          -5
          The Iranian article is not even worth discussing.
          http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/05/20/304416/russian-med-fleet-warning-to-isra
          he /
      2. Prishtina
        Prishtina 24 May 2013 13: 47 New
        -1
        Damn men, the speed of OTR Isk-a open source_ 2100m / s ... the speed of sound is approx. 300m / s. How many mach can you calculate yourself)
  • self-propelled
    self-propelled 24 May 2013 09: 19 New
    27
    the article looks like some kind of hysteria - "RUSSIANS ARE COMING! ALL PI ...." request
    just Russia defends its interests. It is high time!
    1. Ross
      Ross 24 May 2013 10: 03 New
      +5
      Quote: self-propelled
      the article looks like some kind of hysteria - "RUSSIANS ARE COMING! ALL PI ...." request
      just Russia defends its interests. It is high time!


      The West has always perceived the Russians as a scarecrow. So there is a reason they are afraid.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 24 May 2013 11: 38 New
        23
        Quote: Ross
        The West has always perceived the Russians as a scarecrow. So there is a reason they are afraid.


        "Throughout the XNUMXth century, Russians learned French - the army took a walk to Paris, in the first half of the XNUMXth century Russians learned German - the red flag above the Reichstag, now we are massively learning English - is London and / or Washington next?" (from) laughing
        1. zvereok
          zvereok 24 May 2013 11: 41 New
          +7
          Learn English, and the most perspicacious begin to learn Chinese))).
          1. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 24 May 2013 14: 43 New
            +2
            A very interesting analogy, if so, then we should be in China! And I really hope the merchants, not the soldiers !!!
          2. Gemar
            Gemar 24 May 2013 17: 09 New
            +6
            Quote: zvereok
            Learn English, and the most perspicacious begin to learn Chinese))).

            And the most intelligent teach the Kalashnikov structure. soldier
          3. jagdpanzer
            jagdpanzer 24 May 2013 21: 45 New
            +1
            i am learning thai boxing laughing
        2. Hort
          Hort 24 May 2013 13: 35 New
          +5
          By the way, an interesting thought! You can throw as a trolling on some European or Amerov forum)))
        3. Egor.nic
          Egor.nic 24 May 2013 15: 44 New
          +3
          Why do you need these homosexuals, they themselves are squandered ....
      2. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 24 May 2013 14: 00 New
        +4
        And then! In an embrace with a drunk bear, which in a hat with earflaps also plays on a balalaika ... W-F-W-HORR !!! am
      3. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 27 May 2013 13: 32 New
        +2
        Let them be afraid! For me, so I would have dropped the "curtain", too much shit is floating towards us! Young people who are not persistent are corrupting !!! The family began to raise children poorly !!!! Forgot, bring up while lying across, lie down, it is useless ...
    2. Artmark
      Artmark 24 May 2013 11: 54 New
      +3
      Totally agree good It’s just that Russia decided to show everyone its places soldier
    3. Onotollah
      Onotollah 24 May 2013 17: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: self-propelled
      ! ALL PI ...

      Only specially chosen lol
    4. RUSSIA 2013
      RUSSIA 2013 25 May 2013 13: 59 New
      0
      Quote: self-propelled
      the article looks like some kind of hysteria - "RUSSIANS ARE COMING! ALL PI ...." request
      just Russia defends its interests. It is high time!

      I completely agree with you, we, as a Great Power, with many centuries of history, have every right to defend our interests, to help our allies, countries friendly to us. T, to, the evil empire represented by the USA and NATO bear on our shoulders shit democracy, destroying the rules of world law, bringing hunger, death, destruction of sovereignty to sovereign states that simply want to live, live without submitting to the temptation of Satonian evil that the United States and its allies bear, in the form of debauchery, violence, where the dollar rules and there is no future .
  • Bykov.
    Bykov. 24 May 2013 09: 21 New
    +3
    ... "Expect Israeli strikes on shipments of Russian arms supplies to Syria-Hezbollah ... US authorities told the Wall Street Journal that the next round of Israeli airstrikes could target new Russian shipments of modern Yakhont anti-ship missiles ..."

    How long to wait, as usual, for three years, or what?
  • Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 24 May 2013 09: 21 New
    18
    Quote: self-propelled
    Tatya looks like some kind of hysteria - "RUSSIANS came! ALL PI ...."

    This Russian group will already be a bone in the throat of Israel and the West as a whole. All right. Already sitting in the sun and drinking viskar with ice from the West will not work!
  • sscha
    sscha 24 May 2013 09: 22 New
    +5
    And what a normal scenario! But life, it puts other introductory .. hi
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 24 May 2013 09: 31 New
      +4
      Quote: sscha
      And what a normal scenario! But life, it puts other introductory .. hi


      That’s why the commander’s head was given to him so that he was ready to act quickly and decisively according to the introductory, and not just wear a hat with a cockade. soldier
  • Toit
    Toit 24 May 2013 09: 24 New
    -28
    Your lips, yes, honey to drink. wassat
    1. Vanek
      Vanek 24 May 2013 09: 28 New
      +8
      So what? Bench press.

      Ahhh
      1. Armata
        Armata 24 May 2013 11: 48 New
        10
        Quote: Vanek
        So what? Bench press.
        Ivan, remember the old joke.
        The hippo lies in a swamp and cracks crack. A bear walks by and says
        - Well yes.
        It goes again and again.
        -Well yes. Goes the third time.
        -Well yes.
        - Well, yes?
        - So would e ----- ohm and honey would slurp.
      2. Toit
        Toit 24 May 2013 14: 20 New
        -18
        Quote: Vanek
        So what? Bench press.

        Why would you really think that the presence of the Russian fleet will affect the situation on BV?
        The fleet is strong, weapons are good, sailors are brave, but they still won’t fight, even in the years more prosperous for the USSR they didn’t climb, now even more so.
        1. Manager
          Manager 24 May 2013 15: 03 New
          12
          Quote: Toit
          Why would you really think that the presence of the Russian fleet will affect the situation on BV?
          The fleet is strong, weapons are good, sailors are brave, but they still won’t fight, even in the years more prosperous for the USSR they didn’t climb, now even more so.


          Calm yourself calm. But the stars you still have to rake sooner or later. Be it from Russia or someone else. You can’t live the Century at the expense of the whole world, steal wherever possible, do dirty deeds and not get stars. This is not my young Jewish friend. Can not be.
        2. Egor.nic
          Egor.nic 24 May 2013 16: 06 New
          +5
          According to the chess players: you can make a move with a knight and win the game.
          As the Jews say: it cost me just a feint with my ears ....
          The bottom line is - how not to twist the ears the alignment is changing, and not in favor of the Zionists or the West ....
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 24 May 2013 17: 39 New
            0
            Quote: Egor.nic
            As the Jews say: it cost me just a feint with my ears ....


            Do not offend football players! So they talked about good dribblers. I remember such a feint performed by Daraselia in the final of KK 81g. Ears beat 3. Germans. True from the GDR. Karl Zeiss.
        3. Atlon
          Atlon 24 May 2013 18: 12 New
          0
          Quote: Toit
          Why would you really think that the presence of the Russian fleet will affect the situation on BV?

          Jewish pogrom - a mass violent action committed by a part of society towards Jews as a national and religious minority. Pogroms are one of the typical manifestations of anti-Semitism - the ideology of a hostile attitude towards Jews.

          Jewish pogroms at various times swept through many countries in which Jews lived. In particular, in the Middle Ages, large-scale pogroms took place in England, Germany, France, the Czech Republic, Switzerland, and a number of other countries.
          1. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 27 May 2013 13: 48 New
            +2
            And why did the Jews in these countries do such a thing that they began to destroy all of them, both small and old! Probably they offended the people living there? After all, a fly just doesn’t land on the city! And now zhi.osionisty get the people, and not one, but many in different countries !!! But they think of amers, and they are puppets from zhi.osionistkogo money bag !! It is necessary to destroy the Zionist fascists, that's the main evil !!!
        4. mihasik
          mihasik 30 May 2013 21: 07 New
          0
          Check on Tartus whether or not they will ...
    2. pensioner
      pensioner 24 May 2013 10: 12 New
      +8
      Quote: Toit
      Your lips, yes, honey to drink.


      Well ... one thing you can do. The reason is soaking ...
      1. yustas
        yustas 24 May 2013 10: 19 New
        21
        Good day, namesake!
        Well, their hands still loot well they think, maybe they should help in the development of a two-handed saw, what do you think?
        The bench press has already worked for all of them, the main thing now is for our systematically to crush their position, otherwise they got these demo cockroaches and there’s nothing worse to come up with. By the way, we are here with comrades at work, now we call LGBTshnikov Liberasts, even consonantly =)
        from the bottom of my heart to Ural, greetings from Siberia =)

        PySy

        While the Russian soldier
        There are bullets, matches, moonshine,
        Suck NATO soldiers
        Trembling with fear, the Pentagon!
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 24 May 2013 10: 25 New
          +7
          Hello namesake. How these ... have already gotten it. While here, it’s like nothing. Toko there for permanent residence dumped-not to know !!! "Here we have ... here we have!". "And you, and you ...". Ugh! Siberia is also tremendous. Going there soon in kmndr. to Tomsk.
      2. soaring
        soaring 24 May 2013 11: 02 New
        +3
        pensioner
        As a pensioner to a pensioner, I put +++++++ and I agree 100% !!! good drinks wink
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 24 May 2013 11: 17 New
          0
          Quote: soaring
          As a senior citizen to senior citizen


          I’m preparing to join this elite club.
          1. soaring
            soaring 24 May 2013 12: 29 New
            +2
            We will accept anything! )))
      3. Ascetic
        Ascetic 24 May 2013 13: 10 New
        +8
        Quote: retired
        Well ... one thing you can do. The reason is soaking ...


        At the same time, with a sado-masochistic urge to hang up on simpletons ears about the policy of state anti-Semitism in the USSR, quotas for Jews, hard living. Discrimination and hunger (you would think that everyone else except the Jews in the Union was “chosen”). renegades does not pass without a trace and affects the consciousness of the individual even at the genetic level.
        1. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 24 May 2013 15: 02 New
          10
          At the genetic level, they are our enemies, when they rushed to Khozaria for permanent residence and then didn’t stop being them, it’s not in vain that our kings always drove them from our borders. So no, they crawled through Poland and Belarus, but they leaked to the top through Khrushcha and Andropov. not in vain the 5th point was and now it is necessary to introduce from such "friends" it is necessary to defend themselves in power !! And no talerance !! Let Europaces play this game to their end !!! Our end, after the end of all other civilizations, who does not wake friends with us !!!
        2. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 24 May 2013 19: 51 New
          -9
          What did the political rot rot again?
          1. AlexW
            AlexW 24 May 2013 20: 31 New
            +2
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            What did the political rot rot again?

            At how to understand? How many politicians knew, almost all of the "God-chosen." And at the departments of "scientific communism" there are entirely Shapiro, Sungurovskys and Furmanovs, etc. .. But the places are warm, not dusty - "they are sick for everything, they don’t answer for anything" wassat
      4. Toit
        Toit 24 May 2013 14: 20 New
        -10
        Quote: retired
        Well ... one thing you can do. The reason is soaking ...

        For example, Share hidden fantasies)))
        1. Manager
          Manager 24 May 2013 15: 07 New
          +6
          Quote: Toit
          Well ... one thing you can do. The reason is soaking ...


          It was a figurative expression. But since you take this statement seriously, your fantasy is not all right.
          Remember, Russians are not pigeons for you ... do not interrogate with suction of mercy!
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 24 May 2013 17: 43 New
            +2
            !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! +++++++++++++++++++
        2. pensioner
          pensioner 24 May 2013 17: 46 New
          +2
          Listen-ah-ah! Toit-you're deep as a toilet !! I don’t understand anything ... Deeply you hide the thought, deeply ... Well then, take it yourself!
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 24 May 2013 18: 06 New
            0
            Well, since you set a minus to me, I feel the joke hasn’t disappeared ... If anything, please contact. I have them, a whole factory ...
            1. pensioner
              pensioner 24 May 2013 18: 12 New
              0
              minus, minus ... The finger is not a conscience - it’s hard to dry out ...
        3. Bort radist
          Bort radist 28 May 2013 14: 10 New
          0
          Quote: Toit
          For example, Share hidden fantasies)))

          Its not enough ????? and here on someone else's hump repeat am tongue
      5. pensioner
        pensioner 24 May 2013 17: 41 New
        0
        They chewed a little ... It’s even a shame ... Itut could bring us ..
    3. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution 24 May 2013 11: 02 New
      +6
      By the way, where did you get a keyboard with a Russian layout?) I suppose you ordered an ebay specialist?)
      1. yustas
        yustas 24 May 2013 12: 34 New
        +7
        Quote: Phantom Revolution
        By the way, where did you get a keyboard with a Russian layout

        No, they are given to them in the IDF for subversive activities in GREAT Russia. Well, something like this I see, though, they don’t give out but sell, at a discount =)
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 24 May 2013 14: 24 New
          +1
          Quote: yustas
          No, they are given in the IDF


          Yeah, they will issue, the whole keyboard - SHCHAZZ. Yes, they strangle themselves in 1 key.
        2. pensioner
          pensioner 24 May 2013 14: 26 New
          0
          Zvini Eustace did not read your comment to the end ... It’s like this for me ..
      2. Toit
        Toit 24 May 2013 14: 22 New
        0
        Quote: Phantom Revolution
        By the way, where did you get a keyboard with a Russian layout?) I suppose you ordered an ebay specialist?)

        In any store sold
        1. Phantom Revolution
          Phantom Revolution 24 May 2013 15: 49 New
          +3
          Quote: Toit
          In any store sold

          Yes, just the same in any?))) hi I thought something original would come up.)
          You can see that in the Russian Federation in any store you can find a keyboard purely with an English or Chinese layout))) Everywhere there are)))) laughing
        2. Cynic
          Cynic 24 May 2013 18: 05 New
          +1
          Quote: Toit
          In any store sold

          Already said
          There is a Russian spirit ... there it smells of Rus!

          Eh hehe, even stole it!
          wink
    4. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus 24 May 2013 11: 13 New
      10
      If you need petroleum jelly, contact, tomorrow it will be much more expensive and only for kosher KC))) Probably not used to what would you like for a dry JAG-JAG.
      Be courageous to the end, sometimes you have to face the truth and endure "break off"
      1. afire
        afire 24 May 2013 15: 50 New
        +3
        not only break off, but also get .... bitingly, in the impudent Jewish face! laughing
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  • Egoza
    Egoza 24 May 2013 09: 25 New
    11
    Article +! Just do not share the optimism of the author about the fact that the United States will step back if Israel is painfully "playfully". Do not forget in whose hands the banks!
    1. Scoun
      Scoun 24 May 2013 09: 39 New
      +4
      Well, in the case of the Buchi, the United States can do whatever it takes .. and with a rattling of arms, they will aggravate the situation to the highest boiling point and throw the dollar and all the creditors out of the blue ...
      and the whole world will sigh calmly say figs with him with the dollar .. the main thing is that the third world did not happen.
    2. Pit
      Pit 24 May 2013 10: 10 New
      +9
      Quote: Egoza
      Do not forget in whose hands the banks!

      Those in whose hands banks look at Israel as well as the whole east, stupidly cut the dough. And if they themselves were there, then purely on tour packages and live in more peaceful places. But then they will have one more reason to take care of the Jewish genocide. So what is likely to happen as he says
      Scoun Today, 09:39
      , And then for half a century of yelling that the Russians killed a trillion innocent Jews.
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW 24 May 2013 15: 21 New
        0
        Banks in the hands of Jewish Zionists, the first blow must be struck at the Fed and the places where the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Dupons, Bush and all the scum, through the fault of which millions of people around the world are killed !!! All the wars from their submission, in them, circumcised on the eighth day and born of a Jewess, sits a gene of profit and hatred for other people, it’s not for nothing that we are goyim for them, who should serve them in the Old Testament and their Talmud, everything is prescribed for them, who is who!!!
        1. Katsin
          Katsin 25 May 2013 09: 09 New
          -2
          What a medieval nonsense, what a blessing to live in a Jewish country and to serve in the Jewish army ... I would like to read this forum to my children, so that they understand why Israel exists
          1. Scutum
            Scutum 25 May 2013 15: 28 New
            0
            the main thing - do not forget to say - thanks to which country does Israel even exist stop
          2. kirmikchi181178
            kirmikchi181178 26 May 2013 09: 40 New
            0
            You probably forgot to whom they owe a happy life, after the 2nd World War. To a Russian soldier.
          3. mihasik
            mihasik 30 May 2013 21: 15 New
            0
            At the same time, tell me who put you there instead of Crimea, (unless of course you know what I mean)). Just do not say that the whales helped you with the country). Grandfather Stalin determined your place there).
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 May 2013 10: 30 New
      +5
      Quote: Egoza
      Just do not share the optimism of the author about the fact that the United States will step back, e

      Elena, they there in Congress already adopted the law as a united front. That they will fully support Israel militarily. And boats there with cruise missiles do not fry kebabs.
    4. The shelezyak
      The shelezyak 24 May 2013 11: 06 New
      +7
      Do you think that our General Staff does not understand who is behind Israel?
      If a blow is struck (and it will be struck in the end), then everything will be ready to punish the main "radish" - the United States.
      1. Toit
        Toit 24 May 2013 14: 24 New
        -11
        Quote: Shelezyak
        If a blow is struck (and it will be struck in the end), then everything will be ready to punish the main "radish" - the United States.

        Neighing, write more)))
    5. zvereok
      zvereok 24 May 2013 11: 47 New
      +2
      Of course, the United States can arrange a financial-banking blockade, but Iran somehow lives in it. And besides, even in Iraq they bought oil calling it humanitarian “Oil in exchange for food”. In relation to us they will call: Life and warmth in winter in exchange for sneakers.
      1. Bashkaus
        Bashkaus 24 May 2013 18: 44 New
        +3
        Of course, the United States may arrange a financial-banking blockade, but Iran somehow lives in it.
        But if you think well, if we are driven into a blockade, then what? There is already Iran, the same Syria, we have 1/6 of the earth, oil, gas like dirt, for three we’ll figure it out ... the rest will be envious)))
        1. atalef
          atalef 24 May 2013 18: 49 New
          -2
          Quote: Bashkaus
          There is already Iran, the same Syria, we have 1/6 of the earth, oil, gas as dirt, for three such a figure.

          Will you push oil and gas to each other?
          It's like an anecdote - Russian business
          Steal a box of vodka. sell half the price, and drink the money.
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 24 May 2013 19: 22 New
            +1
            Quote: atalef
            It's like an anecdote - Russian business

            Well, not Jewish
            The Jew answers: “Firstly, the broth remains from the eggs, and most importantly - I'm in business!” (Another option: - A fat?)

            bully
          2. zvereok
            zvereok 24 May 2013 20: 13 New
            0
            Quote: atalef
            Will you push oil and gas to each other?
            It's like an anecdote - Russian business


            Kakbo Union perfectly pushed oil and gas to the capitalists and even China did not consume so much then.
            You better think about yourself - what will you do if you yourself have to invest in the defense budget and not get handouts from the states?
          3. vadson
            vadson 24 May 2013 20: 15 New
            +2
            Yes, do not care about this Western world, if the borders are closed, and their hell is closed - they opened it for robbery, the West will lose more, it does not need another USSR 2.0. all western values ​​at once with a broomstick, and all that the liberals have accomplished in the past 20 years, down the drain. and if the country has order to the USSR 2.0, neighboring countries will stretch and blockades will fail.
          4. mogus
            mogus 25 May 2013 03: 02 New
            0
            BRICS China and Brazil with machine tools (industry) and food, let's figure something out ... China also does not need torn Syria. India has a place ...
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  • Armata
    Armata 24 May 2013 09: 25 New
    +6
    Well, yes, yes, as the unforgettable Sparrow said. Namely nuclear weapons, Iskanders. But what is not a full-scale invasion of Israeli territory? Such adults, and all fairy tales believe.
    1. Papakiko
      Papakiko 24 May 2013 09: 59 New
      +6
      Quote: Mechanic
      Such adults, and all fairy tales believe.

      Good afternoon!
      I'm shocked, terrified.
      I reread it at 2 times, since the “note” is not 500 page.
      1. Armata
        Armata 24 May 2013 10: 28 New
        +4
        Greetings fellow countryman.
        Quote: Papakiko
        I reread it at 2 times, since the “note” is not 500 page.
        Oh, these tales, oh, these storytellers. laughing
        1. VAF
          VAF 24 May 2013 12: 33 New
          +5
          Quote: Mechanic
          Oh, these tales, oh, these storytellers.


          Eugene, this is not a "fairy tale" .. this is "barnacles" but from what .. mushrooms there or grass .... their adversaries can not understand.
          Article !!!!
          MINUS! soldier
          1. Armata
            Armata 24 May 2013 12: 59 New
            0
            Quote: vaf
            Eugene, this is not a "fairy tale" .. this is "barnacles" but from what .. mushrooms there or grass .... their adversaries can not understand.
            Article !!!!
            MINUS!
            Hello, Sergey. I don’t know what the author is sitting on, but I already envy him. laughing
          2. jagdpanzer
            jagdpanzer 24 May 2013 21: 48 New
            0
            both that and another apparently wink
    2. Cynic
      Cynic 30 May 2013 21: 22 New
      0
      Quote: Mechanic
      Why isn’t a full-scale invasion?

      It has already begun!
      drinks
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  • avant-garde
    avant-garde 24 May 2013 09: 27 New
    +1
    Who knows in the composition of our fleet there are submarines, I mean which one is sent to Syria ???
    1. Aristarch
      Aristarch 24 May 2013 09: 44 New
      +4
      In previous maneuvers, as they said there were diesel engines.
  • Andrey57
    Andrey57 24 May 2013 09: 28 New
    0
    Maybe I missed something, but it seems like the Iskanders fly a little slower, at least according to the declared parameters hi
    1. Rebus
      Rebus 24 May 2013 09: 52 New
      +3
      Quote: Andrey57
      Maybe I missed something, but it seems like the Iskanders fly a little slower, at least according to the declared parameters hi


      The speed of the rocket after the initial portion of the trajectory is 2100 m / s, which is approximately 6,3 Mach, and if the R-500 rocket (cruise, subsonic) is used, then approximately 0,8 Mach.
      1. sashka
        sashka 24 May 2013 10: 02 New
        0
        Quote: Rebus
        The speed of the rocket after the initial portion of the trajectory is 2100 m / s, which is approximately 6,3 Mach, and if the R-500 rocket (cruise, subsonic) is used, then approximately 0,8 Mach.

        Actually, the speed of sound is about 1050 m / s .. And one max is equal to one speed of sound. Or does it seem to me?
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 24 May 2013 10: 07 New
          10
          Quote: Sasha
          Actually, the speed of sound is about 1050 m / s .. Or does it seem to me like that?

          - A physics textbook to help you. The speed of sound when dispersed in airspace is 330 m / s, not more.
          In the aquatic environment - significantly higher. On metal, sound travels at a speed of generally 5500 m / s.
          Physics, physics, and again physics. All military equipment is based on physics, partly on chemistry and information theory. The rest is physics, mechanics, and other physical disciplines. I recommend the study guide Von Neumann. Landau's textbook is a mockery of a student, although Landau himself is a great physicist.
          1. Rebus
            Rebus 24 May 2013 10: 22 New
            +3
            Quote: aksakal
            The speed of sound when dispersed in airspace is 330 m / s, not more.

            This is at normal pressure and air temperature 0 degrees Celsius, at a temperature of 20 degrees the speed of sound is already 343 m / s hi
            1. aksakal
              aksakal 24 May 2013 10: 46 New
              +4
              Quote: Rebus
              This is at normal pressure and air temperature 0 degrees Celsius, at a temperature of 20 degrees the speed of sound is already 343 m / s

              - Oops, thanks, forgot to mention it. smile
              Quote: Sasha
              Actually, the speed of sound is about 1050 m / s ..
              - Sashka simply mixed up, 1050 m / s is 1050 km / h, if you translate 330-340 m / s into km / h.
              1. Airman
                Airman 24 May 2013 12: 32 New
                0
                [quote = aksakal] [quote = Rebus] If
                - Oops, thanks, forgot to mention it. smile [quote = sashka] Actually, the speed of sound is about 1050 m / s .. [/ quote] - Sasha just mixed up, 1050 m / s is 1050 km / h, if you translate 330-340 m / s into km / h. [/ quote]
                If 330-340 m / s is multiplied by 3600 s, then we get 1188-1224 km / h
          2. sashka
            sashka 24 May 2013 11: 38 New
            +1
            Quote: aksakal
            - A physics textbook to help you.

            Forgive the fool .. I mixed up the meters and kilometers. Seconds and hours .. The demon got it, however)) In the form of alcohol ..
          3. Black
            Black 24 May 2013 15: 33 New
            +2
            Quote: aksakal
            Landau's textbook is a mockery of a student, although Landau himself is a great physicist.


            About how !!!!
            Only the past "Dow school" can be called a physicist !!!!
            1. aksakal
              aksakal 24 May 2013 21: 28 New
              0
              Quote: Chen
              Only the past "Dow school" can be called a physicist !!!!

              - A physicist, yes. But in order to just understand physics and not get on the mess and blunders, which are sometimes published in the media, enough Feynman lectures on physics.
          4. Katsin
            Katsin 25 May 2013 09: 15 New
            -2
            Landau is a great physicist? What are you? It can’t be. .... We are only traders and thieves ... Surely there was a talented Russian scientist, and Landau stole his work. Understand and report to us)))))
        2. Rebus
          Rebus 24 May 2013 10: 10 New
          0
          Quote: Sasha
          Actually, the speed of sound is about 1050 m / s .. Or does it seem to me like that?

          It seems to you ... In each environment, sound travels at different speeds.
          The speed of sound in air is approximately 340 m / s and depends on temperature and air density.
          The speed of sound in water is 1500 m / s.
          The speed of sound in metals, in steel - 5000 m / s.
          http://www.dpva.info/Guide/GuidePhysics/Sound/SoundSpeedAirTemperature/
          1. Black Colonel
            Black Colonel 24 May 2013 14: 08 New
            +4
            And rumors and fears finally can have no equal in speed! am
            1. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 24 May 2013 15: 31 New
              0
              And the more they will be, the better !!!
        3. Llirik
          Llirik 24 May 2013 11: 55 New
          0
          The speed of sound into the air is about 300-340 m / s or 1080-1224 km / h.
        4. Cynic
          Cynic 24 May 2013 17: 55 New
          0
          Quote: Sasha
          sound speed about 1050 m / s ... Or so it seems to me?

          If instead m / s substitute km / h something similar will be _ 1080. When using the numbers 300 instead of 330.
          In general, from a number of _
          Landowners live off the money taken from the peasants.

          bully
    2. Nitup
      Nitup 24 May 2013 10: 25 New
      0
      in my opinion, 2,1 km / s, which is about 6M
  • KCC
    KCC 24 May 2013 09: 28 New
    16
    Israel bombed in Syria without considering all the consequences of such an act. When they thought carefully, the Israeli prime minister flew urgently to Putin, judging by his face after a conversation, he did not hear good things from Putin. I am sure Israel will now be more careful in its actions with Syria or will receive an adequate response.
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 24 May 2013 09: 48 New
      15
      Quote: KCC
      judging by his face after a good conversation, he did not hear from Putin

      “Netanyahu is not Golda Meir, dumb as a cork.” First it bombes, then it thinks, but did he do it right? Judging by the consequences, not very laughing
      Well, let the Jewish comrades not be offended - Netanyahu mows, first of all thinking about his bed on airplanes, and for some reason Jewish pilots should disentangle his jambs laughing Even if some six S-300 batteries are overcome by some kind of loss and those six S-XNUMX batteries are overcome, then this will only be the beginning, and the end for Israel may become very sad. It is better for Jews to think about their own skin in this situation, and not about how to serve the Americans. Jews did not need to bomb Damascus for nothing, all these "threats to Hezbollah’s transfer" were fiction for fools, it’s just a stupid request for amers. Are Amers worth the consequences?
    2. Airman
      Airman 24 May 2013 12: 44 New
      +3
      Quote: KCC
      Israel bombed in Syria without considering all the consequences of such an act. When they thought carefully, the Israeli prime minister flew urgently to Putin, judging by his face after a conversation, he did not hear good things from Putin. I am sure Israel will now be more careful in its actions with Syria or will receive an adequate response.

      And now, if only our Supreme had the determination to make a decision without looking back at the United States and NATO, then everything will be the way. The Jews, having received the wort, must shut up right away.
  • SCS
    SCS 24 May 2013 09: 30 New
    10
    And if the Russians respond to the Israeli attack, believe me, the United States will not intercede.

    A moot point. but this is not the point, but the fact that the current situation is the formation of a new world order! therefore, we must not concede !!!
    1. Katsin
      Katsin 25 May 2013 12: 16 New
      -3
      Give in to whom? America? But it is incomparably stronger than you in all respects (except for nuclear weapons, and this is a paper tiger, no one will use it). Choose an object of hatred that you can (like Turkey)
  • Yves762
    Yves762 24 May 2013 09: 31 New
    +4
    Like our ships start to shoot in defense of Syria.?.
    If I’m wrong, correct, I don’t remember so even USSR shot ...
    Pontezstvo, in the permitted framework, in front of the hamsters ... no more negative .
    1. Vanek
      Vanek 24 May 2013 09: 32 New
      10
      Quote: Yves762
      I don’t remember even the USSR shooting ...


      Vietnam, anti-aircraft gunners ...
      1. Armata
        Armata 24 May 2013 09: 36 New
        +5
        Quote: Vanek
        Vietnam, anti-aircraft gunners ...
        Well, pilots and specialists. Everyone shot there. And in general, from the whole "grouping" which ship can work out for ground targets?
        1. Vanek
          Vanek 24 May 2013 09: 41 New
          +2
          Quote: Mechanic
          And in general, from the whole "grouping" which ship can work out for ground targets?


          Do I know ???

          Eugene hi
        2. aksakal
          aksakal 24 May 2013 09: 54 New
          +1
          Quote: Mechanic
          Well, pilots and specialists. Everyone shot there. And in general, from the whole "grouping" which ship can work out for ground targets?

          - Only once did the Soviet ships consider it necessary to quickly flush away. This is when the USSR squadron went on a friendly visit to Chile to President Allende, but just before entering Chile in Santiago, a bucha started by Pinochet. Well, our ships blew out of there with all their might. If they went in - they won’t be able to keep silent, when they kill the legitimately elected President of Chile, they would have to
          Quote: Yves762
          our ships will start shooting
          , and this is only 9 years (approximately) before the end of the Caribbean crisis.
        3. aksakal
          aksakal 24 May 2013 10: 02 New
          +5
          Quote: Mechanic
          And in general, from the whole "grouping" which ship can work out for ground targets?

          - I do not think that it will be necessary to work on ground targets. Russian ships are there to prevent a direct invasion of Syria from the sea. And for ground battles - let the Syrians disentangle themselves, and for this they will put both the S-300 and the Iskander. They have the rest. Russia should not completely solve the problems of Syria, the support of the obviously NOT VIABLE regime is a bad job. The viability of a regime is determined by the successful defense of threats equivalent to that regime, and protecting from threats is easier to kill than to shake it on a created and barely alive one. laughing
          1. Black Colonel
            Black Colonel 24 May 2013 14: 12 New
            +1
            Iskanders, maybe they won’t deliver, but “Tochka-U” is just right. And sort of going to write them off.
      2. rolik
        rolik 24 May 2013 10: 59 New
        +5
        Quote: Vanek
        Vietnam, anti-aircraft gunners ...

        Angola, Honduras and many more where))))))
        1. zvereok
          zvereok 24 May 2013 11: 52 New
          +3
          Egypt against the Jews.
    2. Hudo
      Hudo 24 May 2013 09: 38 New
      +1
      The very presence of real military force will spoil the ardor of those who like to fly around like a fly on glass. Their heads are not completely cut out of oak logs, if 0,8, if some forces and means are placed on the BV, they are unlikely to be there without any goals, and the conditions for their application are probably thought out in advance.
    3. tolan_petrovich
      tolan_petrovich 24 May 2013 09: 44 New
      +7
      "As if our ships would start firing in defense of Syria.?."
      "Expect Israeli strikes on shipments of Russian arms supplies to Syria-Hezbollah ..."
      And only then, easily, if there are pebbles in our garden.
      1. Airman
        Airman 24 May 2013 12: 53 New
        +4
        Quote: tolan_petrovich
        "As if our ships would start firing in defense of Syria.?."
        "Expect Israeli strikes on shipments of Russian arms supplies to Syria-Hezbollah ..."
        And only then, easily, if there are pebbles in our garden.

        Yes, they will not shoot at ships or launch air strikes, they will bomb the entire cargo during transportation.
    4. krpmlws
      krpmlws 24 May 2013 10: 01 New
      +4
      As I understand the author of the article, the Russian Federation can respond with a blow to Israel in the event of an attack by Russian ships and citizens in Syria.
      1. skeptic-
        skeptic- 24 May 2013 10: 55 New
        +4
        Quote: krpmlws
        As I understand the author of the article, the Russian Federation can respond with a blow to Israel in the event of an attack by Russian ships and citizens in Syria.


        Sorry, but the Russian Federation can respond with a blow to Israel in the event of an attack on Russian ships and Russian citizens in Syria. And then only on the attacking enemy (as self-defense)
      2. Bashkaus
        Bashkaus 24 May 2013 11: 24 New
        +3
        Practice shows that in the event of an attack by Russian ships (peacekeepers, etc. military units), as well as citizens on the territory (well, you yourself know everything), Russia can really answer ...
        1. zvereok
          zvereok 24 May 2013 11: 55 New
          +2
          "Practice shows that in the event of an attack by Russian ships (peacekeepers, etc. military units)"

          They’ll get a couple of times in the teeth, they will bypass the third party, well, of course, if we don’t do it liquidly.
        2. atalef
          atalef 24 May 2013 18: 26 New
          -1
          Quote: Bashkaus
          as well as citizens on the territory (well, you yourself know everything) Russia can really answer ...

          According to Russian citizens laughing laughing
          There are exactly 10 times more of them in Israel than in Syria. laughing
          The Russians will bomb the Russians to protect the Russians. laughing
          I thought only the author (s) stoned, it turns out not only. wassat
          1. vadson
            vadson 24 May 2013 20: 27 New
            +1
            As they wrote above, as these people in Russia, then they consider themselves citizens of the Russian Federation, as in Israel so everyone is God's chosen. Thief is cunning. such and not dumb bomb
          2. Oleg Rosskiyy
            Oleg Rosskiyy 26 May 2013 23: 28 New
            +1
            Quote: atalef
            According to Russian citizens
            There are exactly 10 times more of them in Israel than in Syria.
            The Russians will bomb the Russians to protect the Russians.

            Beat your own so that strangers are afraid, but in general, swearing allegiance to another state - these are no longer citizens of Russia.
      3. Airman
        Airman 24 May 2013 12: 59 New
        0
        Quote: krpmlws
        As I understand the author of the article, the Russian Federation can respond with a blow to Israel in the event of an attack by Russian ships and citizens in Syria.

        If you believe the command of the Navy, the BDK has arrived in Syria for "a possible urgent evacuation of Russian citizens"
      4. igor67
        igor67 24 May 2013 13: 19 New
        +5
        Quote: krpmlws
        As I understand the author of the article, the Russian Federation can respond with a blow to Israel in the event of an attack by Russian ships and citizens in Syria.

        Of course, you can strike it and wipe it off the face of the earth. First you need to evacuate 60 thousand Russian tourists, Ukrainian and Ukrainian, of course, the Anglo-Saxons should be left, and the Sarabs, what to do here will be a millionaire and we’ll live like it would be mixed up. ...? In general, the squadron is thinking for other purposes, as Zhenya (mechanic) correctly pointed out which of the ships can fire at earthly targets, plus maybe I’m mistaken, like there are two tank tankers, a tugboat, and what else?
        1. regdan
          regdan 24 May 2013 14: 02 New
          +4
          Well, they will be beaten at the military bases of the vaunted IDF. Or do you have tourists walking around military bases? recourse
          1. Anton Karpenko
            Anton Karpenko 24 May 2013 14: 19 New
            +2
            First, the Israeli "Kumpol" knocked out. And then do nothing and do not need to - left defenseless from attacks by Palestinians, arrogant Jews will quickly turn on their brains.
          2. igor67
            igor67 24 May 2013 14: 41 New
            +2
            Quote: regdan
            Well, they will be beaten at the military bases of the vaunted IDF. Or do you have tourists walking around military bases? recourse

            What kind of kindergarten? The states are building relationships in tourism tourism, and you are fighting here. Strategists damn it. Well, how do you imagine this? Knock out the cumps, bomb the bases. soldier
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 24 May 2013 16: 38 New
              0
              Igor is a circus. Then common sense once or twice and miscalculated. People rejoice in their hatred of Jews and / or Israel, and reality rests. Here everything is in the minds of the war, the attack on Israel, etc. Circus. Sound, balanced comments can be obtained from Eugene Mechanic and even a couple of people.
              1. mogus
                mogus 25 May 2013 03: 12 New
                0
                will not get to the fighting - what's the point? The United States is unlikely to intervene - there are enough of its own problems, and China is holding amers for eggs (about 20% of the US debt), and China also does not need torn Syria.
              2. Katsin
                Katsin 25 May 2013 12: 45 New
                -2
                This forum is the strongest motivator to live in Israel. It’s fortunate that my children will never see live gloomy anti-Semitic personalities ...
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 25 May 2013 12: 47 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Katsin
                  This forum is the strongest motivator to live in Israel.

                  Well, live that you climb here on this forum. Sit on your Israeli.
                  1. kirmikchi181178
                    kirmikchi181178 26 May 2013 10: 02 New
                    0
                    They have such a nature, to teach everyone and to stick their nose everywhere.
                  2. Mihail33
                    Mihail33 21 August 2013 23: 22 New
                    0
                    If you don’t answer, you’ll be sour. You’ll start drinking, the moderator and the government do not need it
                2. mogus
                  mogus 25 May 2013 14: 51 New
                  0
                  people's hatred is not unfounded ... Perelman, Wasserman, Solovyov (TV presenter) - who first came to mind, live normally. I have one of the best friends of Jewish nationality, from first grade to graduation at the same desk, though not in all lessons. But to take the same Gozman, Vekselberg, then this is Nazism towards us. All the most heinous, regarding us, comes from the yuda (in other forums I come across different people, but for example on mail.ru your compatriots openly hate us). Well, it cannot be that in Russia several centuries all nations get along, but for several decades they hate ..?
                3. mogus
                  mogus 25 May 2013 15: 01 New
                  0
                  you are not right. our aggression is a reaction to the attitude towards us from your compatriots ...
                4. posad
                  posad 27 May 2013 22: 40 New
                  -2
                  What a blessing that you and your geek live in Israel. After your flight, in Russia even breathing was better. Can anyone else be taken to you?
                  At the expense of children. Have they blinded you? ))))))))))) No problem)))))))))
                  1. annenkov242
                    annenkov242 28 May 2013 15: 11 New
                    +1
                    Do not go down ....
                5. mihasik
                  mihasik 30 May 2013 21: 35 New
                  0
                  And you do not be equal to minke whales, and all will be friends with you, even the Arabs.
              3. Oleg Rosskiyy
                Oleg Rosskiyy 26 May 2013 23: 30 New
                0
                Quote: Pimply
                Sound, balanced comments can be obtained from Eugene Mechanic and even a couple of people.

                Probably from the "professor" and "rumata"?
            2. mihasik
              mihasik 30 May 2013 21: 33 New
              0
              Tyk we learn from the “West” double standards!) With one hand we’re friends, with the other we’re fighting
    5. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 24 May 2013 12: 57 New
      +3
      Quote: Yves762
      I don’t remember even the USSR shooting

      Egypt, the beginning of the 70s, air defense missiles.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 24 May 2013 16: 39 New
        -4
        The USSR did not enter the war. Advisers and stuff are common. Regular parts were somehow not noted anywhere.
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 26 May 2013 16: 59 New
          +1
          Quote: Pimply
          Regular parts were somehow not noted anywhere.

          Yeah.
          For a long time, the 80s, drunk friend-sailor told.
          A ship of the Russian Navy standing in a friendly port. Israeli (?) Making a call at it, after "practicing" targets on the shore. Your choice ?

          Only fell into the port small the wreckage.
          You can say _ What drunk do not tell ?!
          But only in the morning he was very intensely interested in _ And what did he actually pour on land yesterday?
          Only then everyone had more than one skeleton in the closet dusting themselves and everyone answered amicably _ About mermaids !!!
          bully
    6. old man54
      old man54 24 May 2013 15: 51 New
      0
      Quote: Yves762
      Like our ships start to shoot in defense of Syria.?.
      If I’m wrong, correct, I don’t remember so even USSR shot ...
      Pontezstvo, in the permitted framework, in front of the hamsters ... no more negative .

      well 2 !! Thank you for not knowing the story! At least 1956, remember! He didn’t shoot then, but he warned so seriously and got ready that everyone then from Egypt instantly got off, and Israel in the first place!
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 26 May 2013 17: 07 New
        0
        Quote: old man54
        Did not shoot then

        Paraphrasing_
        Appearance - Queen of Evidence

        1. old man54
          old man54 26 May 2013 21: 38 New
          0
          did not quite understand this humor, honestly !? :)
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 26 May 2013 22: 51 New
            +1
            Quote: old man54
            did not quite understand this humor

            Officially did not shoot then. And there is no evidence!
            drinks
    7. kirmikchi181178
      kirmikchi181178 26 May 2013 09: 53 New
      0
      Everything happens once for the first time
  • Aristarch
    Aristarch 24 May 2013 09: 31 New
    +2
    Logically, it is likely that izr. still take a chance.
  • sashka
    sashka 24 May 2013 09: 32 New
    +4
    Good article .. Patriotic. But no one knows and cannot know how it will actually be. In such matters, Putin is a "grandmaster." For all my dislike for him ..
    1. tixon444
      tixon444 24 May 2013 10: 07 New
      +5
      The author of the article, Jim W. Dean, comes from an old military family dating back to the American Revolution. His father was a World War II veteran.
    2. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus 24 May 2013 11: 26 New
      +5
      As I understand you, I myself have never voted for Putin, but now I admire his foreign policy and am ready to yell "Putin, we will not surrender Russia and its allies, I am with you"
      1. sashka
        sashka 24 May 2013 11: 44 New
        0
        You specifically ask a question to someone or just like that ..
      2. 12061973
        12061973 24 May 2013 13: 01 New
        +2
        Shout quietly and no later than 23-00.
    3. zvereok
      zvereok 24 May 2013 11: 57 New
      +1
      Moreover, there is no need to discount Buki and Armor scattered across Syria - they will also help if they get it.
    4. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 24 May 2013 13: 01 New
      0
      Quote: Sasha
      Putin "grandmaster"

      So choose either Grandmaster Kasparov or Grandmaster Putin.
    5. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 24 May 2013 15: 43 New
      +2
      Vanga predicted a nuclear conflict in the Middle East. Either Israel will be covered, or Iran! Something like this ... And after all this, humanitarian RUSSIA will conquer the whole world with a New ideology .... If you didn’t really mess it up, something like that, predicted Wang!
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 24 May 2013 17: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
        And after all this, humanitarian RUSSIA will conquer the whole world with a New ideology .... If you haven’t really messed up something like that, Wang predicted!


        Vanga predicted that Russia would stop the third world war, and the USSR would revive in the first quarter of this century. Here you will have a new ideology, well, everything that is left from Europe will be asked in the Customs Union! fellow
  • Manager
    Manager 24 May 2013 09: 33 New
    +6
    The article is certainly strong with a bang! And the EPRST wants it to be that way! I will not say anything this time. We ourselves all perfectly understand. And the pros and cons of the article are also known to everyone.
    I’d better sit and see how now the Jews will run and spit))))
    1. avant-garde
      avant-garde 24 May 2013 09: 35 New
      +2
      There is one already running and spitting
    2. Armata
      Armata 24 May 2013 09: 39 New
      +5
      Greetings Maxim. Popcorn took laughing wink
      1. Manager
        Manager 24 May 2013 09: 45 New
        +4
        Quote: Mechanic
        Greetings Maxim. Popcorn took

        Hello! Seeds are better)))
        1. omsbon
          omsbon 24 May 2013 12: 07 New
          +9
          Quote: Manager
          Quote: Mechanic
          Greetings Maxim. Popcorn took
          Hello! Seeds are better)))

          Hello Maxim and Eugene!
          Friends, do you really think that you can spit further and faster than the Jews who rushed in? Yes, they are "champions" in spitting from around the corner.
          1. Armata
            Armata 24 May 2013 13: 01 New
            +2
            Quote: omsbon
            Friends, do you really think that you can spit further and faster than the Jews who rushed in? Yes, they are "champions" in spitting from around the corner.
            Andrew welcome. No, we won’t even compete with them. So we’ll sit and watch as spectators. drinks
        2. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel 24 May 2013 14: 15 New
          +1
          Seeds are better))) ... and more patriotic
    3. Papakiko
      Papakiko 24 May 2013 10: 38 New
      +9
      Quote: Manager
      Jews will run and spit

      And they will not spit much.
      They will instruct the minuses of the article, well, a couple of “spits” and will not be able to achieve more. Some are worried about the "image" (backing track). wink

      And the article is clearly written by the Zionist, for the "victim" of the "Holocaust" system.

      I allow myself a small retreat, a type of “anti-Simitic” dictum.
      It is so necessary for Jews to stand out from other cultures and peoples that even the GENOCIDE of the Jews was given their own name: In Russian, the word "Holocaust" when designating a concept that is not a proper name, is written with a lowercase letter, and in relation to the murder of the Jews - with the capitalization.

      Paradox or machinations of ZIONIS?

      In English, the term “holocaust” has been used in close to its current meaning since the 1910s (originally in relation to the Armenian genocide in the Ottoman Empire and the Jewish pogroms during the Civil War in Russia), and in the modern sense the extermination of Jews by the Nazis (with a capital letter ) - since 1942. Widespread in the 1950s thanks to the books of the future writer of the Nobel Peace Prize writer Elie Wiesel(Jewish, French and American writer, journalist, public figure. Winner of the Nobel Peace Prize in 1986. He writes in Yiddish, Hebrew, French and English. Professor of Humanities at Boston University.Does Wiesel Born September 30, 1928 in Sighet (Romania) in a religious Jewish family.). Appears in the Soviet press in the early 1980s ...

      Well, where does the “love” for Israel or the Jews come from after this?
      (I don’t say anything about the mega-presence of Jews in bureaucratic and aligarchic circles, and so everyone knows and sees)
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 24 May 2013 10: 55 New
        +3
        Quote: Papakiko
        Jews
        - so you respect them? Why
        Quote: Papakiko
        Е

        with such a letter?
        According to the content of the post - it seems like you treat them normally laughing. According to the content of the post, you have a normal, healthy and I would even say a slightly overly tolerant attitude towards them, which so far they clearly, alas, have not deserved. strolling through deserts at someone else’s expense - if this is abused, then the Holocaust will be repeated and repeated. They would have to gather on their own land and live for themselves and live, and forge a peaceful life with their neighbors, and develop science. And do not try to arrange a hangout in the deserts at the expense of others. Nobody likes this, there is no such ethnos on earth.
        1. Papakiko
          Papakiko 24 May 2013 13: 45 New
          +2
          Quote: aksakal
          with such a letter?

          Thank you, I’ve pushed about this, and I’m putting the big E everywhere when the speech about the Jews comes in.
          Quote: aksakal
          a bit overly tolerant of them

          I know a few, I communicate and with them 50/50 good-bad, as well as with other nations. Although with LKN things are much worse, in terms of business partners. With the latter, only everything with 100% prepayment.
      2. Professor
        Professor 24 May 2013 14: 10 New
        -2
        Quote: Papakiko
        : In Russian, the word "Holocaust" when designating a concept that is not a proper name, is written with a lowercase letter, and in relation to the murder of Jews - with a capital letter.

        I will give you an educational program. The Holocaust is the English equivalent of the Hebrew word "Shoa." A word came from ancient Greek. In Russian, this event is called (attention, write and remember) "catastrophe of european jews". hi
        1. omsbon
          omsbon 24 May 2013 15: 41 New
          +3
          Quote: Professor
          "the catastrophe of European Jewry."

          The fact that Jews love butter but sour cream is a fact that does not require proof.
          I will not argue about the so-called "Holocaust" either, here the positions are determined monumental.
          But in what grammar did they read that the "Holocaust" is capitalized? Where? When? The fact that the so-called "larvae of lice" such as mlechins, Svanidze or cross-eyed rosman write so, it is not for them to determine the rules of the Russian language.

          PS the lice larva is called gn..a. .
        2. korm-yurii
          korm-yurii 24 May 2013 16: 30 New
          +4
          Well, here are the instructions: “Write and remember.” This suggests that you are a Zionist, my friend. How did you get here to the “unworthy”?
        3. Papakiko
          Papakiko 24 May 2013 18: 12 New
          +4
          Quote: Professor
          catastrophe of european jews

          Why, for example, is it not so: catastrophe of European Jewry with the abbreviation CEJ ?!
          Quote: Professor
          English equivalent of the Hebrew word "Shoa"

          To me personally, sho sho sho boa, completely "perpendicular."
          Quote: Professor
          A word came from ancient Greek


          What exactly came from the "ancient Greek"?

          Peter I, by his decree of December 19 (29), 1699, indicated the beginning of the year to be considered January 1. By this decree, the tsar "from the creation of the world" the king indicated to replace the chronology from the birth of Christ. 7208 from the creation of the world became the year 1700 from the birth of Christ.
          Accordingly, the year 7521 is in the yard, and all the bindings to the “pseudo-trees” are gay.
          The Jews believe that the year 5772 was calculated by Israel, proceeding from the fact that the Jews were in Egypt for 210 years, but “we know” that the Jews were in “Egypt for 430 years”, i.e. Israel hid 430-210 = 220 years
          those. now 5773 + 220 = 5993 year from Adam.

          With such antiquity, why do "specialists" refer to the Greek language principle !?

          Therefore, Herrr Professor, what exactly is "buried" in the Holocaust !?
          1. Professor
            Professor 24 May 2013 20: 05 New
            -2
            I repeat. What in Hebrew is called "shoah", in English "the Holocaust"in Russian is called"catastrophe of european jews". Have you learned or still repeat?"
            1. Papakiko
              Papakiko 25 May 2013 01: 14 New
              +1
              Quote: Professor
              in Russian is called "the catastrophe of European Jewry"

              The Holocaust (from the English holocaust, from other Greek ὁλοκαύστος - “burnt offering”) also the biblical forms ὁλόκαυ (σ) τος, ὁλόκαυ (σ) τον “burned whole”, “burnt offering, sacrifice of the burnt offering”, ὁλοαατ ὁλοκαύτωσις “offering a burnt offering” in the broad sense is the persecution and mass extermination by the Nazis of representatives of various ethnic and social groups.
              Where did the Holocaust and the “catastrophe of European Jewry" become related?
              With all due respect or lack thereof, but why draw ears from Ishak to these different concepts ?!
              Under the "catastrophe of European Jewry" you can bring various disasters, natural or man-made disasters.
            2. patrianostra
              patrianostra 25 May 2013 02: 20 New
              +2
              To become a convinced anti-Semite you need to live in Israel. hi You agree with entim yutverzhdeniem
      3. old man54
        old man54 24 May 2013 16: 02 New
        0
        and what do you write the word "Jews" with the capital? I do not understand you?
      4. Katsin
        Katsin 25 May 2013 12: 51 New
        -2
        But you are not ashamed that you, a Russian, write in your language with wild mistakes, and I, a hated Jew, perfectly write in your language?
  • Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 24 May 2013 09: 36 New
    +7
    An interesting plot twist, intriguing ... Article +
  • ale-x
    ale-x 24 May 2013 09: 38 New
    -4
    Horror story ... laughed
    1. Akhtuba73
      Akhtuba73 24 May 2013 10: 19 New
      +5
      Usually, naughty children are beaten with a belt sometime after the 10th verbal suggestion and frightening of Baba Yaga. Let it be a "horror story", who needs a thin thread of a hint in it heard. Many such threads from various sources, primarily the actions of the Russian leadership, will be woven into a strong rope. Here from her, in case of further "disobedience", someone’s priest will suffer.
      I do not beat the children and do not advise. stop
  • gleb49
    gleb49 24 May 2013 09: 39 New
    +5
    It is high time for RUSSIA to turn to YOU.
  • 1tankist
    1tankist 24 May 2013 09: 39 New
    12
    In my opinion, there are three countries in the world that are trying to subjugate the rest.
    These are the USA, Great Britain and Israel.
    They are engaged in terror at the state level. Straight bandits from the highway.
    If this continues further, I won’t be surprised that a coalition will emerge that will sweep away the governments of these countries from the face of the earth as part of anti-terrorism measures.
    1. sashka
      sashka 24 May 2013 09: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: 1tankist
      They are engaged in terror at the state level. Straight bandits from the highway.

      They remind the gang from the cartoon "Bremen Town Musicians")))
    2. yustas
      yustas 24 May 2013 10: 04 New
      +7
      Quote: 1tankist
      there are three countries in the world that are trying to subjugate the rest.
      + This is the United States, Britain and Israel.

      Yes, little Britons with ami can do just that, they don’t know how to do anything else. But Jews, they should love Comrade Stalin, otherwise they would have been without their country ...
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 24 May 2013 10: 24 New
        +4
        Quote: yustas
        These are the USA, Great Britain and Israel.

        Quote: yustas
        But Jews, they should love Comrade Stalin, otherwise they would have been without their country ...

        - In, only by your own observations reached? Young man, this is a story. A tiny and very shortened excursion - for some reason, Jews were severely persecuted all over the world, roamed like gypsies around the world and managed to get caught in Europe. And not just catch on - but become an influential force. It is believed that the growing influence of the Jewish world diaspora began with the successful commercial activities of the Rothschilds, which later became the richest dynasty in the world. It was in England that the activity of the Rothschilds reached an official level, representatives of the dynasty became shadow rulers of the country. As a result, an extremely aggressive tandem took shape - the Rothschilds and Baruchs took over the brain and financial support, while the British themselves were a striking force. America, more precisely, the USA is just a large copy of the same tandem, there the Rockefellers added another bandit.
        It’s just that sometimes you need to read a story - it’s not only informative, but also interesting. Traditionally, Russia confronts the Anglo-Jewish tandem, resists with varying success. It is only because of Russia that the tandem’s plans to conquer the whole world are not being realized, although they are already close to this. Syria and Iran remained. Choking China is not a question, no matter what many say. After Iran, almost all oil will be in tandem control. Only Russia and Kazakhstan can supply oil to China, which is very small for China. Its growth will immediately stop, and China will collapse. China is a colossus on clay (or rather, oil) feet. Militarily, China is not yet a serious force.
        so that only Russia puts tandem sticks in the wheels. And this confrontation has been going on for several centuries.
        1. zvereok
          zvereok 24 May 2013 12: 06 New
          +3
          Quote: aksakal
          It is believed that the growing influence of the Jewish world diaspora


          From the Crusades, as Jews were literally in every city and in Europe, at the official level, they were allowed to do certain things that were not fitting for a good Christian. Including usury. As a result, all the looted treasures passed through the Jews, something stuck to their hands. Banks appeared, banks began to lend to the sovereigns for the war, gaining influence over them and reached the world level. The Rodschilds are just one of many, without a doubt the most successful. Something like this.
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 24 May 2013 12: 46 New
            +2
            Quote: zvereok
            Including usury. As a result, all the looted treasures passed through the Jews, something stuck to their hands. Banks appeared, banks began to lend to the sovereigns for war, gaining influence over them, and reached the world level.

            - I agree, the fact is that this does not in any way cancel my version of the appearance of a monstrous tandem. Your version will change mine in this:
            Quote: aksakal
            It is believed that the growing influence of the Jewish world diaspora began with the successful commercial activities of the Rothschilds, which later became the richest dynasty in the world.

            in your presentation it sounds like this:
            Quote: zvereok
            Including usury. As a result, all the looted treasures passed through the Jews, something stuck to their hands. Banks appeared, banks began to lend to the sovereigns for war, having gained influence on them, and reached the world level. The Rodschilds are just one of many, without a doubt the most successful. Something like this.

            Ok, I agree. Minus because of this?
            Let it be your way. How exactly the tandem came about in the details does not matter. Important - is there a tandem? Or, as Gumilev called this phenomenon, a chimera state when the head of one animal and the body of another animal. Gumilev described the signs of the state-chimera as an example of an ancient state, defeated in a military campaign by the prophetic Oleg. I don’t remember the name. The bottom line is when the Jews in fact seize power in the country, but at the same time manage not to advertise this circumstance, but really steer at the same time.
            At the same time I would like to know - but Russia is not such a state? And is the confrontation between Russia and the West a trivial battle between two HIMER? do not take it as an insult, but you really have a lot of “signs of a chimera state” there, moreover with arrogant and provocative walks in the deserts.
            Here I will honor, honor, I am a fan of Russia, but by chance, do I support the chimera state? I would not want to ... am
            1. SASCHAmIXEEW
              SASCHAmIXEEW 24 May 2013 16: 10 New
              +2
              AKSAKAL You are right, we have Jews in power, HOW IT IS NOT REASONABLE !!! They rode the Russians in the Russian state! But they climbed for a long time and now, where is flattery, where is libel, where is bribery! And they fed, Stalin almost exhausted them! So they poisoned, stsu .. !!! And under Khrushchev and Andropov they climbed out of the cracks, whoever was attached, and now in power !!! The eternal question: What to do?
              1. atalef
                atalef 24 May 2013 18: 31 New
                -1
                Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
                And under Khrushchev and Andropov, they climbed out of the cracks, whoever settled in where, but now in power!

                i.e. they are now from 60 to 80 years old laughing
                Nothing more than five years and all the old fighters will rest. Who will you blame then?
              2. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 24 May 2013 18: 54 New
                -1
                Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
                AKSAKAL You are right, we have Jews in power, HOW IT IS NOT REASONABLE !!! They rode the Russians in the Russian state! But they climbed for a long time and now, where is flattery, where is libel, where is bribery! And they fed, Stalin almost exhausted them! So they poisoned, stsu .. !!! And under Khrushchev and Andropov they climbed out of the cracks, whoever was attached, and now in power !!! The eternal question: What to do?
                What are you saying? And not vice versa? Under Stalin, every fifth Commissar or Minister from 46 was Jewish. Under Khrushchev and beyond, not a single one. There were a lot of Jews in the organs of the State Security Service under Stalin, from intelligence and counterintelligence to executioners of the Gulag. In the army there are hundreds of generals in the highest posts right up to the commanders of troops. And under Khrushchev and his successors, they were simply squeezed out from there to the middle of 60-X. So in Soviet history, the biggest anti-Semite is Comrade Stalin.
                1. aksakal
                  aksakal 24 May 2013 21: 49 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Aaron Zawi
                  So in Soviet history, the biggest anti-Semite is Comrade Stalin.
                  - Bazhanov claims that Stalin was not an anti-Semite at all, but very much did not like them. BUT. He used them skillfully. Let's just say - all the skill and professionalism of the Jews in exchange ... laughing for life, and if a Jew really tried, then for quite tolerable working and living conditions. If in Russia everything is repeated the same way, I am the first Jewish lover and try to breed anti-Semitism here! am Aaron, in this case I will become a Jew more than the Jews themselves laughing True, the rest also lived the same way, but it does not matter.
                  By the way, a very mutually beneficial exchange. Why did Jews emphasize knowledge and skills? Gold can be taken away, but the gold that is in the head can never be taken away. But you can always exchange for what the Jew always needs - his own life. But here I wanted to clarify throughout the post - this is not about all Jews. There are very worthy people among them, very worthy. It is only about those who have devoted themselves to serving the golden calf. Read Berezovsky, shortly before his death, he published a short essay on this topic. I frankly wondered how, literally in bast shoes, one could spend a lot of money on launching the first astronaut into space. He honestly admitted that it was difficult for him as a Jew to understand. If there is nowhere to put money in, and some kind of gesheft will promise space, then a Jew can move in this direction, and that is not a fact. Here we are talking about them.
                  1. il grand casino
                    il grand casino 24 May 2013 22: 35 New
                    -1
                    Duc, Berezovsky was primarily a bastard, and only then you need to think about who he was from mom to dad. The bastards have no nationality. Or say that there are no analogues to Berezovsky in other nationalities?
                    1. Katsin
                      Katsin 25 May 2013 12: 59 New
                      -1
                      To the same Berezovsky was baptized, that is, he ceased to be a Jew. We are sitting on the crosses of mourning
                      1. il grand casino
                        il grand casino 25 May 2013 13: 17 New
                        0
                        You can write in PM, the nuances of all this, I was always interested in different cultures.
                      2. Setrac
                        Setrac 28 May 2013 19: 11 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Katsin
                        To the same Berezovsky was baptized, that is, he ceased to be a Jew. We are sitting on the crosses of mourning

                        The rabbi will order - a Jew and cross himself for business, and the cancer will bend.
            2. old man54
              old man54 24 May 2013 16: 36 New
              0
              Quote: aksakal

              How exactly the tandem came about in the details does not matter. Important - is there a tandem? Or, as Gumilev called this phenomenon, a chimera state when the head of one animal and the body of another animal.

              In fact, there is no tandem! It's like giant octopus tentacles scattered around the world! Or it’s more correct to say about 3 dragon heads, it’s different, but in the whole body he has one! So it is with these thermogas. The rest, “titular” peoples no longer play any role, because they got hooked on consumerism and misinformation in the media and stuff!
            3. zvereok
              zvereok 24 May 2013 20: 25 New
              0
              Revenge not reasonable Khazars? Judaism professed the highest among them. Well, I didn’t put you cons. Just replenished one of the versions.
          2. SASCHAmIXEEW
            SASCHAmIXEEW 24 May 2013 15: 55 New
            0
            About luck, do not say how lucky it is if the loan interest and competently drawn up agreement will strip you to the goal! Everything is built on deception and greed !!! FREEBIE!!!
        2. old man54
          old man54 24 May 2013 16: 24 New
          0
          Quote: aksakal
          A tiny and very shortened excursion - for some reason, Jews were severely persecuted all over the world, roamed like gypsies around the world and managed to get caught in Europe.

          A wonderful excursion into history! But ... Jews were not always like gypsies, and once upon a time they really had a very large state in the BV and flourished. Then a revolution occurred in their minds and their state, similar to ours in 1985/93, and they began to oppose themselves to the whole world, they wanted to rule all the "gentiles" of our planet! And then Ancient Greece got in their way, about which there is a very distorted and deceitful infa today, as about wars between Greeks and Persians. Although really that army (Persians) was led by Jews. The Jews turned away from God, and He is one, I hope many will agree with me on this, and they began to fall apart and pray to the DEVIL, to offer real human sacrifices (for example, in Sadoma and Gamora). And in the end, in punishment for this and much more, the Creator deprived them of their home, their land, their state, and they wandered around the World like stray dogs! Alexander the Great with his campaign physically, with a sword and a spear completed what God had begun, having made his famous campaign to India! But the Jews still didn’t learn the lesson and took root in Europe, first in Ancient Rome, and then in France and Angia! They were taken from Russia and the northern Black Sea coast, but there were only a few of them and from time to time they began to “pull up” their fellow tribesmen there . Why the USA? Because the Jews quickly realized, and yet they are not stupid, that England in the distant future as a strenuous bridgehead for pretending to world domination and suppressing the self-awareness of all other nations is not very suitable, because deprived of its resources and its territory is not so militarily safe. The United States on the American continent was much more suitable for these zazhach. In a nutshell, that's all!
      2. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 24 May 2013 14: 19 New
        +3
        They (Jews) are one of the few modern people who do not detract from the role of the USSR in the victory over the Nazis.
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 24 May 2013 22: 22 New
          +3
          Quote: Black Colonel
          They (Jews) are one of the few modern people who do not detract from the role of the USSR in the victory over the Nazis.

          - ordinary Jews - yes, they do not detract. But it’s not about them. A Jew is plowing himself in his tributary, or what are their collective farms calling them? - Well, let it plow! Honor and praise be for him! And I condemn the one who arranges such a terrorist attack. We are talking about those Jews who lowered the command to the world liberal media (and most of the world media, especially the liberal ones, are owned by Jews, but they are unusual)
          Quote: Black Colonel
          belittle the role of the USSR
          .
          These Jews are of a very special kind. They are not people at all, but cold, powerful computers for extracting a gesheft from money. Completely devoid of sentiment and generally any emotions. It’s cold to plan the Boston terrorist attack and then just as calmly dunk all the FBI members who had the misfortune of participating in the detention of the Tsarnaevs. Soak all the special forces involved in the "killing" of bin Laden. No emotions, just a matter. The fact that Hitler sent their compatriots tens of thousands into the gas chambers did not touch them at all! For some reason, we are separating some Jews from others, while the Jewish comrades themselves consider them to be their own. Although I will make a reservation - there are not people there. There are those whose advent was foreseen by Herbert Wells in War of the Worlds. The aliens in this novel also had no emotion. Only satisfied humming when they injected human blood into themselves. Wells was mistaken only one thing - they did not fly from Mars. We were at our side and warmed in the bosom.
    3. Bekzat
      Bekzat 24 May 2013 10: 07 New
      0
      Greetings to all, for Alexander, you forgot about China
    4. old man54
      old man54 24 May 2013 16: 08 New
      +2
      Quote: 1tankist
      In my opinion, there are three countries in the world that are trying to subjugate the rest.
      These are the USA, Great Britain and Israel.
      They are engaged in terror at the state level.

      "+" To you from me! You have a very deep look at history and geopolitics! So it is, and always has been, since the Middle Ages, starting, I'm talking about England. But they, like the real mafia, hide behind good grimaces and speeches, and their deeds, in fact, are black and black!
  • erased
    erased 24 May 2013 09: 39 New
    +3
    Interesting material, clearly foreign. Why only the author is not specified?
    An open conflict with Israel is not beneficial for Russia. But she can help Syria. So we are waiting for the States to use their most important and most powerful weapon against the Russian Federation - they will freeze the capital of the Russian state apparatus at home. Or at least hint at it.
    1. regdan
      regdan 24 May 2013 10: 03 New
      +2
      Jim W. Dean http://www.veteranstoday.com/ site of American veterans.
    2. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 24 May 2013 16: 12 New
      0
      STER- Do you think that after the “freezing” active actions will begin?
  • Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 24 May 2013 09: 40 New
    +1
    Israel’s unpunished strikes on Syria should be laid end. This is facilitated by a balanced foreign policy of the Russian leadership, Vladimir Putin. Israel must admit an obvious fact: Russia does not abandon its friends in trouble! She will do everything for Syria to develop in peace and harmony of all the peoples living in this country.
  • Manager
    Manager 24 May 2013 09: 42 New
    10
    Well, there’s some kind of note in the article that nevertheless refreshes my hot head .... Is it a bust with our strengths and invincibility ..... Although maybe we just didn’t notice how quickly and unexpectedly Russia became strong? Something in the shower, all the same, this article has changed. Either pride has increased (although nothing has happened as a whole), or the expectation of something makes the soul tremble, or perhaps just a hunch that your hated enemy will finally get his teeth and justice will prevail.
    In any case, many thanks to the author! Each of us woke up in our hearts!
    1. nickname 1 and 2
      nickname 1 and 2 24 May 2013 12: 13 New
      +3
      Quote: Manager
      Well, there’s some kind of note in the article that’s all
      In any case, many thanks to the author! Each of us woke up in our hearts!


      Marya Ivanovna came home to Vovochka: Oh, oh, oh - your son, your son!
      Father - why?
      M.I. - he said that he would ... fuck me!
      Who is senior? Stepka? Yes, I have him ......!
      No, that's the horror - Little Johnny!

      Ahhh, this YES, if he said, he’ll do it!
      Here I cannot do anything.
    2. Airman
      Airman 24 May 2013 15: 47 New
      +3
      Quote: Manager
      Well, there’s some kind of note in the article that nevertheless refreshes my hot head .... Is it a bust with our strengths and invincibility ..... Although maybe we just didn’t notice how quickly and unexpectedly Russia became strong? Something in the shower, all the same, this article has changed. Either pride has increased (although nothing has happened as a whole), or the expectation of something makes the soul tremble, or perhaps just a hunch that your hated enemy will finally get his teeth and justice will prevail.
      In any case, many thanks to the author! Each of us woke up in our hearts!

      Quickly and unexpectedly, only diarrhea can happen. And perhaps ordinary Americans are frightened by such articles, they say, the Russian bear is so strong that it can shoot down planes on take-off. The article was written by an American, and not to exalt the power of the Russians. I also want to, that Russia would defend its interests not only in peace negotiations, but, where necessary, and by force. And partners must be supported, not surrendered.
  • Opera
    Opera 24 May 2013 09: 42 New
    +7
    All or a lot of things depend on the consistent and tough position of Russia in this region. Thanks to this position, the Turks have already flown away, Europe has not embarked, and Israel is delivering cowardly blows from around the corner.
    1. yustas
      yustas 24 May 2013 10: 06 New
      +2
      oh, yes, your words to God’s ears, help from the fraternal peoples in this regard, otherwise the geyropa from SySHYY would tear us apart, and we all were led ... = (sad it’s all
  • lecturer
    lecturer 24 May 2013 09: 47 New
    +4
    I pray to God about the specificity and veracity of this article:
    Any Israeli retaliation will cause a full-scale Russian response, which can be aimed at their bases and command structures. Their updated Iskander missiles are said to have speeds in the range up to 6-7 Mach, but our sources say their speed is over 8 Mach. When evading missile fire, they can deviate with overload by more than 30 G, and dive to the target at an angle of 90 degrees. Israeli bullies have never stood up to modern weapons, but they may have a chance. And they will not like it.

    And, surely, I will read to my cadets about the STRENGTH and BEAUTYNESS of our weapons !!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. Katsin
      Katsin 25 May 2013 13: 34 New
      -1
      First you learn Russian without errors, read, and then teach cadets, Teacher ... First, learn how to spell the word "disinterestedly"
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 28 May 2013 19: 17 New
        0
        Quote: Katsin
        "disinterestedly"

        There are two options:
        Without self-interest - disinterestedly - the absence of self-interest.
        The devil is self-serving - disinterestedly - like a self-serving demon - your Jewish alteration of the Russian language.
  • djon3volta
    djon3volta 24 May 2013 09: 48 New
    +6
    And if the Russians respond to the Israeli attack, believe me, The US will not stand up.

    but it’s true, and I have long come to this conclusion. I’ll even say more (once I voiced it here), if you dream up and imagine that Russia delivered a nuclear attack on Israel, then no country, including the United States, will try to do anything to Russia in the military plan. the maximum that will be, this is the most terrible howl in the history of mankind from all the stands of any UN, economic and political sanctions (such as oil and gas we will not buy from you laughing , I have a counter question, but who will you buy from?). EVERYTHING! Nothing else will happen, absolutely nothing!
    there are even countries (a little) that will welcome that Israel has suffered such a punishment, confident that Iran will stand by applauding the Russian leadership for this action! fellow
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 24 May 2013 10: 03 New
      -10
      Quote: djon3volta
      EVERYTHING! Nothing else will happen, absolutely nothing!

      Israel also has nuclear submarines and I hope you live closer to the North Pole
      No one will use nuclear weapons for some Syria
      Assad if he wanted to destroy half of Israel with chemical weapons long ago
      and by the way, Russia is far from the first in oil production, OPEC may well increase supply by 2 times, and the United States may well provide itself
      1. Ulysses
        Ulysses 24 May 2013 10: 58 New
        +3
        Thank you, laughed heartily.
        They are there (on boats) carry nuclear weapons in buckets ??? smile
        1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
          GELEZNII_KAPUT 24 May 2013 12: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: Ulysses
          Thank you, laughed heartily.
          They are there (on boats) carry nuclear weapons in buckets ??? smile

          Wiki: According to experts[Who?], three diesel-electric submarines of the Dolphin type, armed with the Israeli Navy, can carry cruise missiles equipped with nuclear warheads. Tales are shorter !!!laughing
    2. Armata
      Armata 24 May 2013 10: 11 New
      +2
      Quote: djon3volta
      if you fantasize and imagine that Russia delivered a nuclear strike against Israel,
      Dreamer laughing
      Quote: djon3volta
      I have a counter question, but who will you buy from?).
      Emirates, Qatar, etc.
      Quote: djon3volta
      there are even countries (a little) that will welcome that Israel has suffered such a punishment, confident that Iran will stand by applauding the Russian leadership for this action!
      What are we brave, like even the button itself you press. It’s great to be shortsighted, that in the head, then in the language. Think before you say something 3 world no one needs except you. Although what a person who works on 3 volts can understand, exposes himself as a patriot, and in PM the name of the leader of the African tribe, even the nickname was not Russian (John for reference in Russian is Ivan, if you fix it on Ivan on batteries).
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 24 May 2013 10: 37 New
        +1
        Quote: Mechanic
        Dreamer

        Fatalist laughing
      2. Bashkaus
        Bashkaus 24 May 2013 11: 44 New
        12
        YES that you all attacked 3 volts, for example, it’s also just out of idle curiosity that I would be interested to see the reaction of the USA and Europe if Russia gives in properly to the Turks and Jews. Nuclear weapons. Intuitively I feel that nothing terrible will happen (well, except for Turks and Jews). Howl howl.
        There is only psychology and nothing more.
        You yourself think well, I propose two options:
        1-you are constantly being undeservedly frowned, frowned and frowned at, someone is constantly waking someone against you. You endure all this, endure, endure, then the end of patience comes and you justly answer the offenders. Moreover, the motivational energy of restoring justice is awesome.
        2-you constantly cling to someone and make fun of, name-calling, insulting, poisoning someone else against him. It is logical to assume that if the object of your chmyrenie was weaker, then you could just beat him or solve the problem. But the trouble is that when you don’t have the strength or courage, you begin to shit precisely on the quiet.
        And suddenly, the one whom you are already used to constantly fumbling and lowering suddenly suddenly gives strong lyuley to those whom you just pricked against him.
        Your reaction
        Minimum shock from what happened, which happened during the war with Georgia.
        The second reaction, something needs to be done. Bush, too, was seriously considering an attack on our position. As if I would like to finally break the object of ridicule, it’s kinda dumb, and it’s not convenient for those whom I’ve teased.
        The third reaction is a more or less sober analysis to the best of our ability.
        And here the most interesting awakens. At heart, a man still understands that he is wrong and went too far, he also understands that the one whom he brought is ready to tear it to shreds.
        And here are two ways out of this situation.
        1 main bully understands everything and for the sake of saving his skin shuts up and does not protrude
        2-if a badass scumbag, then goes crazy in a fight.
        If the amers and the Jews have a little brain left, then Russia does not wake up anything but a helpless howl. And if they are already so frostbitten, then why should we tolerate this scum, anyway, either they are us, or we are them. Otherwise, do not survive. So in extreme cases, you should try to apply including and nuclear weapons against Israel, etc., and then on the situation. A beast cornered is dangerous, and it is Russia that is driven.
        1. Airman
          Airman 24 May 2013 16: 10 New
          +1
          Quote: Bashkaus

          If the amers and the Jews have a little brain left, then Russia does not wake up anything but a helpless howl. And if they are already so frostbitten, then why should we tolerate this scum, anyway, either they are us, or we are them. Otherwise, do not survive. So in extreme cases, you should try to apply including and nuclear weapons against Israel, etc., and then on the situation. A beast cornered is dangerous, and it is Russia that is driven.

          But why should Russia use nuclear weapons, have it been driven into a corner? Russia has enough opportunities to stop the Jews without it. Having received a rebuff in the form of several dozen downed planes, they shut up, as has happened more than once.
        2. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 24 May 2013 16: 29 New
          0
          They do not know the Russian proverb: DON'T BE DAMAGED, UNTIL QUIET !!!
        3. old man54
          old man54 24 May 2013 16: 48 New
          0
          "+" To you! I agree to all 100% But only, for starters, it’s possible to try without nuclear weapons, put them in a conventional weapon!
        4. Setrac
          Setrac 28 May 2013 19: 23 New
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          YES that you all attacked 3 volts, for example, it’s also just out of idle curiosity that I would be interested to see the reaction of the USA and Europe if Russia gives in properly to the Turks and Jews. Nuclear weapons. Intuitively I feel that nothing terrible will happen (well, except for Turks and Jews). Howl howl.

          And nuclear weapons are not needed, a developed country such as Israel is too dependent on infrastructure, a few conventional missile hits at key points and the country will be thrown back in development for decades.
      3. Setrac
        Setrac 28 May 2013 19: 20 New
        0
        Quote: Mechanic
        Dreamer

        A pair of warheads miss, and fly to Saudi Arabia.
    3. tixon444
      tixon444 24 May 2013 10: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: djon3volta
      economic and political sanctions (such as oil and gas, we will not buy from you, I have a counter question, but from whom will you buy?)

      Good thinking! Well then, you really have to beat all the world oil exporters at once, so that there are no competitors left))) So we are sure to ... reach the third world level.
    4. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 May 2013 10: 37 New
      +5
      Quote: djon3volta
      if you fantasize and imagine that Russia delivered a nuclear strike on Israel

      Who Putin will give the order to strike in places where Jesus walked. Bad John, you think about our president!
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 28 May 2013 19: 25 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Who Putin will give the order to strike in places where Jesus walked. Bad John, you think about our president!

        Yes, Jesus did not go THERE, the Bible describes moderate latitudes, and not the deserts of the Middle East.
    5. zvereok
      zvereok 24 May 2013 12: 10 New
      +3
      Are you crazy? So far, only one country has delivered nuclear strikes. Why smear yourself with this shit? Especially fresh shit that will stink stronger than theirs.
    6. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 24 May 2013 14: 23 New
      0
      It definitely won’t reach the nuclear one, they just shake nuclear weapons a little and that’s it.
    7. Katsin
      Katsin 25 May 2013 13: 37 New
      0
      I already wrote that after such an attack we will have three submarines with nuclear weapons, so if your crazy dreams came true, we would take with us to the heavens the ten largest Russian cities. It’s good that comrade Putin is sane, which can’t be said about you ...
      1. Oleg Rosskiyy
        Oleg Rosskiyy 26 May 2013 23: 55 New
        0
        Quote: Katsin
        I already wrote that after such an attack we will have three submarines with nuclear weapons, so if your crazy dreams came true, we would take with us to the heavens the ten largest Russian cities.

        I do not wish you this, but you, perhaps, you would never have known about what you said above. So, let’s say good things, because Assad presses you, it should make your soul feel better. The main thing is not to harm yourself.
    8. sashka
      sashka 25 May 2013 13: 51 New
      0
      Quote: djon3volta
      But this is true, and I came to this conclusion a long time ago. I will even say more (once I voiced this here already), if you fantasize and imagine that Russia delivered a nuclear attack on Israel, then no country, including the United States, will try to do anything to Russia in the military plan. the maximum that will be is the most terrible howl in the history of mankind from all the stands of all sorts of UN, economic and political sanctions (like oil and gas we will not buy from you laughing, I have a counter question, but who will you buy from?). EVERYTHING! Nothing else will happen, absolutely nothing!
      there will even be countries (a little) that will welcome that Israel has suffered such a punishment, confident that Iran will stand by applauding the Russian leadership for this action! fellow

      you speak outright stupidity. Taking you seriously isn’t even funny .. Just litter (pfcbhftnt) Dear website
  • tlauicol
    tlauicol 24 May 2013 09: 49 New
    -10
    the article is nonsense of a madman, especially about the C300-400 and Iskander.
    1. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus 24 May 2013 11: 50 New
      +5
      the article is not nonsense, people understand that they have messed up too much and seriously angered. Here fear of retribution appears, and fear, as they say, is great. So now they are sitting on a betrayal that the Jews are waiting for our ships with the S400, that the Swedes of our invasion. They simply understand their hopelessness and doom, and this is manifested in them in the form of "a super cool Russian army, which it is obviously useless to resist"
      Although if they think this is good, then the breakdown of the will to resistance is already beginning)))
      1. atalef
        atalef 24 May 2013 18: 33 New
        -1
        Quote: Bashkaus
        the article is not nonsense,

        I agree . it’s not even delirium.
    2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 24 May 2013 13: 10 New
      +1
      This is not crazy nonsense, but brainwashing to Western readers, i.e. to prepare another hysteria, what a terrible and evil Russia is! belay
      1. regdan
        regdan 24 May 2013 14: 06 New
        +1
        Dear it, I wrote an ardent anti-Semite in the USA, from the Internet magazine veteranstoday.com and there are a lot of darkness of such ardent anti-Semites.
        1. SASCHAmIXEEW
          SASCHAmIXEEW 24 May 2013 16: 32 New
          0
          These would be veterans, but to the US Congress !!!
  • Naval
    Naval 24 May 2013 09: 51 New
    +6
    Ships can be "old", but fighting crews. In Pristen. at the airport, there was also a handful of paratroopers with light weapons, but only the NATO troops were embarrassed anyway. So in Syria, clarity, clarity and firmness in defending their interests will cool the head of "local authorities" from Israel.
  • orff
    orff 24 May 2013 09: 52 New
    14
    In early January 1983, an eight-thousand contingent of Soviet troops was sent to Syria under the legend of the Kavkaz-2 military exercises. The contingent included two anti-aircraft missile regiments armed with ultra-long-range S-200VE systems.
    The main task of the anti-aircraft missile regiments was to stop violations of the air borders of the ATS. This fettered the hands of the Israelis, making the start of mass hostilities less and less likely. Regular Soviet units were not introduced into Lebanon, but there were numerous advisers in the Syrian units and units who took an active part in the hostilities. The appearance of Soviet anti-aircraft missile regiments instantly became known to Israel, which banned the flights of its aircraft in a 250-kilometer radius of effective destruction. The appearance of these air defense systems in Syria immediately forced the Americans to relocate their aircraft carriers and other warships to a considerable distance from the Syrian coast, and led to a reduction in violations of Syrian air borders by Israeli aviation, and airborne early warning and control aircraft (AWACS) generally began to fly only over the Mediterranean by the sea. "Now, the paw of the Soviet bear protects us," commented on the arrival of the Soviet anti-aircraft missile regiments with satisfaction. A.S. Khaddam, Vice-President of the SAR
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 24 May 2013 16: 35 New
      +1
      If, then, what ORFF wrote is true, then what are we afraid of? Someone from the knowledgeable, say-s-300 and Yakhont with Iskander will make such a rustle? If YES, then what are they afraid of.
    2. Katsin
      Katsin 25 May 2013 13: 44 New
      0
      And now the Abel Halim Haddam you mentioned curses the Assad butcher and Russia helping him ... So when you believe him, do you order: then or now?
      1. Oleg Rosskiyy
        Oleg Rosskiyy 26 May 2013 23: 59 New
        0
        Quote: Katsin
        And now the Abel Halim Haddam you mentioned curses the butcher Assad and

        At the expense of the butcher you beguiled, he just crushes them.
  • baltika-18
    baltika-18 24 May 2013 09: 52 New
    +7
    Neither a plus nor a minus. It was written beautifully, patriotically, but somehow the author is too brave and easy.
    Unfortunately, this does not happen.
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 24 May 2013 10: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: baltika-18
      Neither a plus nor a minus. It was written beautifully, patriotically, but somehow the author is too bravura and easy. So unfortunately it doesn’t happen

      - this is not a Russian article, this is a translation of the article of some foreigner, amer /, most likely. Therefore, it’s not a patriotic, but a panic-hysterical article - that’s how amers should evaluate it, because the author Sabzh is their compatriot. laughing
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 24 May 2013 10: 50 New
        0
        Quote: aksakal
        This is not a Russian article,

        Yes, in principle, it makes no difference to me. For as it is written, it will not happen anyway.
        1. Ustas
          Ustas 24 May 2013 12: 35 New
          +1
          Quote: baltika-18
          For as it is written, it will not happen anyway.

          Believe it is necessary. For if you believe, it will certainly come true.
  • avant-garde
    avant-garde 24 May 2013 09: 55 New
    +7
    How these democrats got their fucking with their mongrels and henchmen when they are gone, so that the rest of the world breathes quietly!
  • LaGlobal
    LaGlobal 24 May 2013 09: 56 New
    +2
    Welcome back, comrades - sailors!
  • ovgorskiy
    ovgorskiy 24 May 2013 10: 01 New
    +7
    The article is good, but too cheers-patriotic. I think the matter will not get to the Iskanders, but definitely, Israel will not leave Syria alone. Provocations will be both armed and informational. Russia's supply of the c300 is unambiguous to continue, but escort all transport vessels with warships. Several of our missile ships should be in the waters of Syria on an ongoing basis and share information about the air situation with the Syrian military. Officially announce the inadmissibility of the appearance of both aircraft and missiles 100 km above the group. zone. To wage an information war, including throwing in unverified information. Shouting everywhere that we are for world peace and universal democracy, and to do our own thing, beneficial to us. It's time to learn from our "partners" and beat them with their own methods.
    1. shamil
      shamil 24 May 2013 10: 42 New
      +2
      that is, act according to the Western model !!!!
  • HAM
    HAM 24 May 2013 10: 07 New
    +1
    USA BAAAAL LOVERS ALIENS HANDS HEAT RAG. Just do not understand how the Jews led.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 May 2013 10: 41 New
      +4
      Quote: HAM
      . Just do not understand how the Jews led.

      You don’t forget that the main Jews are sitting in Washington. They have a normal plan, Israel enters the war and immediately the United States enters the war, then all NATO. If successful, they completely take control of the entire region and drag doubters over to their side, those who are minimized between the USA and Russia. They are far-sighted.
      1. zvereok
        zvereok 24 May 2013 12: 22 New
        +1
        NATO responds to aggression against a NATO member state, and moreover to aggression, and not self-defense from a NATO member state. Israel is not a member of NATO. There can only be a provocation, as when the Amer blew up their own battleship in order to start a war.
        1. Toit
          Toit 24 May 2013 14: 32 New
          -3
          Quote: zvereok
          There can only be a provocation, as when the Amer blew up their own battleship in order to start a war.

          Can I clarify what I mean ???
          1. Alexander-Tomsk
            Alexander-Tomsk 24 May 2013 21: 02 New
            0
            The war with Spain at the beginning of the 20th century if my memory serves me right. Go over there with very interesting data - as far as I remember, the crew of the battleship at the time of the explosion consisted only of blacks, and not a single white. These are the multiculturalists wink
          2. zvereok
            zvereok 24 May 2013 21: 14 New
            +2
            Quote: Toit
            Quote: zvereok
            There can only be a provocation, as when the Amer blew up their own battleship in order to start a war.

            Can I clarify what I mean ???


            Time:

            2 August 1964 in the Gulf of Tonkin two American destroyers, Maddox and Turner Joy, were attacked by the forces of North Vietnam. After a couple of days, in the midst of confusion in the command of the "Yankees", the destroyer Maddox announced the re-shelling. And although the crew soon denied the information, intelligence said it was intercepting reports that North Vietnamese had admitted to attacking. The US Congress, by voting on 466 with votes “for” and not a single “against”, adopted the Tonkin resolution, which gives the president the right to respond to this attack by any means. This marked the beginning of the war. Lyndon Johnson gave the order to inflict airstrikes on the naval facilities of North Vietnam (Operation Pierce Arrow). Surprisingly, the decision to invade the United States in Vietnam was made only by civilian leadership: Congress, President, Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara and Secretary of State Dean Rask. The Pentagon reacted without enthusiasm to the decision to "resolve the conflict" in Southeast Asia.

            Colin Powell, who was a young officer in those years, said: “Our military was afraid to tell the civilian leadership that this method of war leads to a guaranteed loss.”
            American analyst Michael Desch wrote: "Unconditional obedience of the military to civilian authorities leads, firstly, to the loss of their authority, and secondly, it unties the hands of official Washington for further, similar to the Vietnamese, adventures."


            Most recently, a statement was released in the United States by independent researcher Matthew Aide, who specializes in the history of the National Security Agency (US intelligence agency and counterintelligence), that key intelligence about the incident in the Gulf of Tonkin in 1964, which served as the reason for the US invasion of Vietnam, was falsified. The basis was the report of the NSA staff historian Robert Heynok, compiled in the 2001 year and declassified on the basis of the Freedom of Information Act (adopted by Congress in the 1966 year). It follows from the report that the NSA officers made an unintentional mistake in translating the information received as a result of the radio interception. Senior officers, who discovered the mistake almost immediately, decided to hide it by correcting all the necessary documents so that they indicated the reality of the attack on the Americans. High-ranking officials repeatedly referred to these false data in their speeches.

            Two:

            15 February 1898 of the year there was an explosion on the battleship "Maine", he sank, and 266 crew died. The US government immediately blamed Spain. After 100 years, the ship was lifted, while it turned out that the ship was blown up from the inside. It is possible that America decided not to wait for a reason to attack Spain and decided to accelerate events by sacrificing a couple of hundred lives.

            Three:

            Test tube at the UN as a pretext for the war in Iraq.

            PS: Not linear, I agree.
      2. atalef
        atalef 24 May 2013 18: 35 New
        -1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        You do not forget that the main Jews are in Washington.

        Alexander . and in Russia what? minor?
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 28 May 2013 19: 31 New
          0
          Quote: atalef
          Alexander . and in Russia what? minor?

          Apparently those Jews who are in Russia are not friends with those in America
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  • pensioner
    pensioner 24 May 2013 10: 07 New
    +3
    they constantly carry out retaliatory retaliatory measures as a “deterrence”.

    Very genocide reminiscent of the way ...
  • Roman_999
    Roman_999 24 May 2013 10: 12 New
    +8
    Russia needs to get on its feet, crush the fifth column, all the same there is no use for it, to remove the "demoliberals" from the Government, there is not much time left. Russia is again alone against the cunning, clever, quirky and thoroughly deceitful and far from poor Enemy - a descendant of unfinished fascism in 1945, nourished, and led by our historical "partners". And nowhere to retreat again.
  • nemec55
    nemec55 24 May 2013 10: 14 New
    +3
    Israeli badasses never stood up to modern weapons

    Well, no matter how it was, but I don’t want to quarrel with the Jews, damn it, they opened a visa-free regime, how many people went there and our people rest there. We need to look for a way to peacefully resolve the issue, however, our authorities are doing so. It’s ugly that those bad ones are bad . Maybe we ourselves are to blame somewhere (our liberals) who give us reasons to think about a change of power or some other factors. To win or conquer the hearts of the countries of the world, the carrot and carrot are gentle and not the indiscriminate harassment of neighbors or potential friends.
    1. old man54
      old man54 24 May 2013 16: 58 New
      0
      then it’s necessary to completely break off diplomatic relations with the Jews, since they don’t understand for good! Those of ours, not Jews, who want to return, let them be informed!
    2. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW 24 May 2013 17: 41 New
      0
      We are guilty of what they want to eat ... But we’ll have to “swear” here in RUSSIA, when we will take away the stolen goods from Jewish oligarchs! From the beginning, those Jews in offshore will rob them, and then we confiscate the stolen goods here!
  • dmb
    dmb 24 May 2013 10: 30 New
    +5
    Such articles are also necessary. It is clear that it does not suffer from the depth of analysis, but it can be attributed to good propaganda. One of my teachers in the Soviet years gave lectures in approximately the same vein (which for some reason the management really didn’t like), and with us, with the help of cursors, we grew confidence that we could stand and win if something happened. I think that everything that happened to our country happened not just because of people like this colonel, but because of those who did not like him much.
  • Wedmak
    Wedmak 24 May 2013 10: 40 New
    +5
    If you close your eyes to technical inaccuracies, then the article is certainly positive.
    But Israel is jumping soon, at such a pace. A couple of hundreds of Kyrgyz Republics will not regret them, in order to dispel the feeling of permissiveness, which is so reverently nurturing the United States in Israel.
    Well, at the same time, instead of rattling weapons, they will trade dates.
  • rpek32
    rpek32 24 May 2013 10: 57 New
    +5
    In order for the article to become believable, you need to stop greeting and smile with all sorts of netanyahu. Until then, unfortunately, these are dreams.
  • vlad.1924
    vlad.1924 24 May 2013 11: 00 New
    +7
    Yes, Israeli army aviation risks running into "trouble" in Syria, all the more so since they already want to destroy Russian air defense missiles (S-300) and coastal anti-ship missile systems (yachts) with Syria from the United States ... The Israel Defense Forces impunity ..
  • Garrin
    Garrin 24 May 2013 11: 00 New
    12
    If everything, as in the article, would have swell for three days, for joy. drinks
  • alex1309
    alex1309 24 May 2013 11: 01 New
    +3
    Or maybe this article is aimed at correcting some "wise men" from the West, if they have even a little bit, and cutting off playful hands ...
  • shamil
    shamil 24 May 2013 11: 18 New
    +4
    It will be cool if, even off the coast of Syria, the “Shark” emerges, behind it the “Kuznetsov” defend the interests of democracy
    1. Manager
      Manager 24 May 2013 11: 32 New
      +5
      Quote: shamil
      It will be cool if, even off the coast of Syria, the “Shark” emerges, behind it the “Kuznetsov” defend the interests of democracy


      Kuznetsov will also pop up ??? VMUHAHAHAHA "X! X! XX! X! X
      1. shamil
        shamil 24 May 2013 18: 35 New
        0
        in tow, but prishnee beech
  • Diviz
    Diviz 24 May 2013 11: 25 New
    +1
    Utopia ... the countries of Israel and Syria are very small. Any mass war will entail only self-destruction. even if this happens, I don’t see a pre-warblock so that our country at the moment can be successfully attacked from different sides of the border.
  • Andryha_2010
    Andryha_2010 24 May 2013 11: 30 New
    -3
    It turns out beautifully))) you can also load tanks on the koter and you can safely go into battle)))
  • lelikas
    lelikas 24 May 2013 11: 33 New
    20
    Quote: Romn
    Utopian article, very nice to read it of course,

    Absolutely agree ;)
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 24 May 2013 11: 49 New
      +1
      Super!!!!!!!!!!
  • Strashila
    Strashila 24 May 2013 11: 33 New
    +4
    There is experience ... in the 80s of the last century in the first aggression against Libya. Only aircraft taking off from Europe then hit. But not a single rocket or plane took off from the United States Navy ... then the Soviet Navy was standing off the coast of Libya ... which openly stated on the air "if something moves in the US Navy ... then we are all up to the stars" ... and it helped.
    1. Marine One
      Marine One 24 May 2013 13: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: Strashila
      The attack was then struck only by aircraft taking off from Europe. But not a single rocket or plane rose from the United States Navy.


      Are you talking about the 1986 Eldorado Canyon? With all due respect, but no need to tell tales. A6 and A7 also arrived from Europe with the F-111? Well there everything rose from the aircraft carriers and bombed around Libya. And the ships of the 5th OPESK of the USSR Navy appeared at Tripoli, when it had already died out safely.